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📘 Marktkapitalisierung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Marktkapitalisierung zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen laut Börse aktuell wert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft Unternehmen in Größenklassen (Large, Mid, Small Cap) einzuordnen und gibt Hinweise auf Marktmacht und Stabilität.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Große Unternehmen gelten als stabiler, zahlen oft Dividenden, wachsen aber langsamer.
- Kleine Firmen können stärker wachsen, sind aber schwankungsanfälliger.
- Die Marktkapitalisierung ist ein guter Indikator für Unternehmensgröße, aber kein Maß für Unter- oder Überbewertung.
📘 Enterprise Value (Unternehmenswert)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Enterprise Value (EV) zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich kostet, wenn man es komplett übernehmen würde – inklusive Schulden und abzüglich Cash.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
(= Marktkapitalisierung + Nettoverschuldung)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der EV ist eine realistischere Bewertungsbasis als die Marktkapitalisierung, da er die Kapitalstruktur berücksichtigt. Er ist Grundlage für Kennzahlen wie EV/FCF oder EV/Sales.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Der Enterprise Value zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich wert ist – unabhängig davon, wie es finanziert ist.
- Er ist besonders wichtig für professionelle Investoren, da er eine objektivere Grundlage für Bewertungsvergleiche bietet als die Marktkapitalisierung allein.
- Ein Unternehmen mit hoher Verschuldung erscheint im EV teurer, eines mit viel Cash günstiger – auch wenn sie an der Börse gleich viel wert sind.
📘 Nettoverschuldung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettoverschuldung zeigt, wie viele Schulden nach Abzug des verfügbaren Cashs tatsächlich verbleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen von Fremdkapital abhängig ist – und wie gut es in der Lage ist, seine Schulden kurzfristig zu bedienen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige oder negative Nettoverschuldung bedeutet hohe finanzielle Stabilität.
- Unternehmen mit viel Cash und geringer Verschuldung sind besser gerüstet für Krisen.
- Eine hohe Nettoverschuldung erhöht das Risiko – besonders bei steigenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
📘 Cash
📈 Was ist das?
Der Cashbestand zeigt, wie viele liquide Mittel einem Unternehmen sofort zur Verfügung stehen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Er gibt Auskunft über die finanzielle Flexibilität: Ein hoher Cashbestand ermöglicht Investitionen, Rückkäufe oder Krisenresistenz.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Cashbestand zeigt finanzielle Stärke und Handlungsspielraum.
- Cash kann für Investitionen, Schuldentilgung oder Aktienrückkäufe genutzt werden.
- Allerdings: Zu viel ungenutztes Kapital kann auch auf mangelnde Investitionsideen hinweisen.
📘 Anzahl ausstehender Aktien
📈 Was ist das?
Die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien gibt an, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell im Umlauf sind und von Investoren gehalten werden.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die Grundlage für viele Kennzahlen wie Gewinn je Aktie (EPS), Marktkapitalisierung oder KGV.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Je weniger Aktien im Umlauf sind, desto höher fällt z. B. der Gewinn je Aktie aus – wichtig für Bewertung und Dividendenrendite.
- Aktienrückkäufe verringern die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien – und steigern den Wert je Aktie.
- Kapitalerhöhungen haben den gegenteiligen Effekt: mehr Aktien → Verwässerung der bestehenden Anteile.
📘 Kurs-Gewinn-Verhältnis (KGV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KGV zeigt, wie oft der Gewinn pro Aktie im aktuellen Aktienkurs enthalten ist – also wie „teuer“ eine Aktie im Verhältnis zum Gewinn ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KGV gehört zu den bekanntesten Bewertungskennzahlen. Es hilft Anlegern einzuschätzen, ob eine Aktie im Vergleich zu ihrem Gewinn eher günstig oder teuer erscheint.
🧮 Berechnung
📊 KGV (TTM) = bezogen auf den Gewinn der letzten 12 Monate (Trailing Twelve Months):🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KGV kann auf eine günstige Bewertung hindeuten – oder auf Probleme im Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein hohes KGV kann Wachstumserwartungen widerspiegeln – oder eine überbewertete Aktie.
📘 Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis (KUV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KUV zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen – unabhängig vom Gewinn.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KUV ist besonders bei wachstumsstarken oder noch nicht profitablen Unternehmen hilfreich. Es zeigt, wie hoch der Umsatz an der Börse bewertet wird.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KUV kann auf Unterbewertung hindeuten – oder auf schwache Margen.
- Ein hohes KUV kann hohe Erwartungen widerspiegeln – oder übermäßigen Optimismus.
- Besonders sinnvoll bei Wachstumsunternehmen, bei denen der Gewinn oder Free Cashflow (noch) keine Aussagekraft hat.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Umsatz (EV/Sales)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/Sales zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen, wenn man auch Schulden und Cash berücksichtigt – es ist eine kapitalstrukturbereinigte Version des KUV.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl eignet sich besonders für den Vergleich von Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Verschuldung – sie zeigt, wie teuer ein Unternehmen tatsächlich im Verhältnis zum Umsatz ist.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EV/Sales ist neutral gegenüber der Kapitalstruktur und eignet sich gut für Unternehmensvergleiche.
- Ein niedriges Verhältnis kann auf eine günstig bewertete Aktie hindeuten – ein hohes Verhältnis auf hohe Erwartungen oder Überbewertung.
- Besonders nützlich bei wachstumsstarken, noch nicht profitablen Firmen.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Free Cashflow (EV/FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/FCF zeigt, wie viele Jahre es dauern würde, bis ein Unternehmen seinen Unternehmenswert durch freien Cashflow „zurückverdient”.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Unternehmen auf Basis ihrer tatsächlichen Cash-Erträge zu bewerten – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder buchhalterischem Gewinn.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges EV/FCF deutet auf eine günstige Bewertung bei starker Cashgenerierung hin.
- Ein hohes EV/FCF kann entweder auf Optimismus oder auf temporär schwachen Cashflow hindeuten.
- Besonders hilfreich bei reifen, profitablen Unternehmen mit stabilen Cashflows.
📘 Kurs-Buchwert-Verhältnis (KBV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KBV zeigt, wie hoch der Marktwert eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zu seinem bilanziellen Eigenkapital ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KBV ist besonders bei Substanzwerten (z. B. Banken, Industrie) relevant. Es hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob ein Unternehmen unter oder über seinem buchhalterischen Vermögen bewertet ist.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein KBV unter 1 kann auf Unterbewertung oder schwache Rentabilität hindeuten.
- Ein KBV über 1 zeigt, dass der Markt dem Unternehmen Mehrwert über den Buchwert hinaus zuschreibt (z. B. Marken, Patente, Wachstum).
- Das KBV eignet sich besonders gut für Unternehmen mit stabilen, materiellen Vermögenswerten.
📘 Dividende je Aktie
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividende je Aktie zeigt, wie viel Geld ein Unternehmen pro Aktie an seine Aktionäre ausschüttet – typischerweise jährlich oder quartalsweise.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die absolute Größe der Auszahlung je Aktie – wichtig für alle, die regelmäßige Erträge suchen oder Dividendenstrategien verfolgen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile oder wachsende Dividende je Aktie ist oft ein Zeichen für ein solides Geschäftsmodell.
- Die Dividende je Aktie allein sagt aber nichts über die Rendite – dafür ist auch der Aktienkurs relevant (→ Dividendenrendite).
- Langfristig steigende Dividenden sind oft ein sehr gutes Merkmal (z. B. Dividenden-Aristokraten).
📘 Dividendenrendite
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividendenrendite zeigt, wie hoch die Dividende eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zum Aktienkurs ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft dabei, Dividendenaktien vergleichbar zu machen – unabhängig vom absoluten Auszahlungsbetrag.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile Dividendenrendite kann auf verlässliche Ausschüttungen hinweisen.
- Ein Vergleich der 1J- und 5J-Rendite hilft zu erkennen, ob das Dividendenwachstum mit dem Kurswachstum Schritt hält.
- Eine niedrige Rendite ist nicht zwingend negativ – sie kann auf starkes Kurswachstum hindeuten.
📘 Dividendenwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Dividendenwachstum zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen seine Dividende je Aktie über die Zeit gesteigert hat.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
5J: durchschnittliche jährliche Wachstumsrate (CAGR)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Stetig steigende Dividenden gelten als Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und Aktionärsorientierung – besonders interessant für langfristige Investoren.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein stabiles Dividendenwachstum ist ein Zeichen nachhaltiger Ertragskraft.
- Ein hohes Dividendenwachstum kann ein erheblicher Hebel deiner Rendite sein:
- Wenn ein Unternehmen z. B. 1 € Dividende zahlt und diese über 5 Jahre jährlich um 15 % erhöht, bekommst du im 5. Jahr bereits 2 € je Aktie – doppelt so viel wie zu Beginn!
📘 Ausschüttungsquote (Payout)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Ausschüttungsquote zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Unternehmensgewinns (pro Aktie) als Dividende an die Aktionäre ausgeschüttet wird.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Quote hilft einzuschätzen, ob eine Dividende auf Dauer tragfähig ist – besonders im Verhältnis zum erzielten Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige Ausschüttungsquote bedeutet: Das Unternehmen behält einen größeren Teil des Gewinns für Investitionen – typisch für Wachstumsunternehmen.
- Eine moderate Quote (z. B. 25–50 %) steht oft für ein gesundes Gleichgewicht zwischen Ausschüttung und Zukunftsinvestitionen.
- Hohe Ausschüttungsquoten können attraktiv wirken, sind aber riskanter, wenn die Gewinne schwanken oder sinken.
📘 Dividendensteigerungen in Folge (Erhöhungen)
📈 Was ist das?
Diese Kennzahl zeigt, wie viele Jahre in Folge ein Unternehmen seine Dividende pro Aktie erhöht hat – ohne Kürzung oder Aussetzung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein langer Track Record kontinuierlicher Erhöhungen spricht für Verlässlichkeit, solide Finanzen und aktionärsfreundliche Unternehmenspolitik.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein langer Zeitraum mit Dividendensteigerungen stärkt das Vertrauen – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Solche Unternehmen gelten als verlässlich und planbar für Einkommensinvestoren.
- Je länger die Serie, desto stärker das Commitment gegenüber den Aktionären.
📘 Umsatz
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen insgesamt mit seinen Produkten und Dienstleistungen verdient – also den Bruttoerlös vor Abzug von Kosten.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Umsatz ist eine der zentralen Kennzahlen zur Einschätzung der Unternehmensgröße, Marktstellung und Wachstumskraft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein wachsender Umsatz zeigt eine steigende Nachfrage und kann ein guter Frühindikator für Gewinnsteigerungen sein.
- Vergleiche von aktuellem und erwartetem Umsatz geben Hinweise auf das Marktumfeld und Analystenerwartungen.
- Wichtig: Starker Umsatz allein genügt nicht – auch Margen und Profitabilität zählen.
📘 EBITDA
📈 Was ist das?
EBITDA steht für „Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens, bereinigt um bilanztechnische und finanzierungsbedingte Effekte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBITDA ist eine verbreitete Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der operativen Leistungsfähigkeit – insbesondere bei kapitalintensiven Unternehmen oder im internationalen Vergleich.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes oder wachsendes EBITDA spricht für starke operative Erträge – unabhängig von Bilanzierung oder Steuerlast.
- EBITDA ist besonders nützlich, um Unternehmen branchenübergreifend zu vergleichen.
- Wichtig: EBITDA ist keine offizielle Gewinnkennzahl – Abschreibungen und Finanzierungskosten werden ausgeklammert.
📘 EBIT
📈 Was ist das?
EBIT steht für „Earnings Before Interest and Taxes“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen und Steuern. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Finanzierungs- und Steueraufwand.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBIT ist eine zentrale Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der Profitabilität aus dem Kerngeschäft – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder Steuersystem.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes EBIT deutet auf ein profitables Kerngeschäft hin – vor Zinslasten oder steuerlichen Effekten.
- Es erlaubt objektivere Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Finanzierung.
- Im Vergleich mit EBITDA zeigt EBIT bereits den Einfluss von Abschreibungen auf das operative Ergebnis.
📘 Nettogewinn
📈 Was ist das?
Der Nettogewinn ist der verbleibende Jahresüberschuss (oder -fehlbetrag) eines Unternehmens – nach Abzug aller Kosten, Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Nettogewinn ist die zentrale Erfolgskennzahl – er zeigt, wie profitabel ein Unternehmen nach allen Kosten tatsächlich arbeitet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein steigender Nettogewinn zeigt, dass das Unternehmen effizient wirtschaftet – trotz aller Kosten.
- Die Entwicklung des Gewinns beeinflusst z. B. direkt das KGV und weitere Kennzahlen.
- Im Zeitverlauf lässt sich ablesen, wie stabil und profitabel ein Geschäftsmodell wirklich ist.
📘 Free Cashflow (FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow gibt Aufschluss über die echte finanzielle Stärke eines Unternehmens – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln. Er zeigt, wie viel Spielraum für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldenabbau besteht.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
FCF reflects a company’s real financial strength – regardless of accounting profits. It shows how much flexibility a company has for dividends, share buybacks, or debt reduction.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow bedeutet, dass ein Unternehmen echte Finanzkraft besitzt – unabhängig vom bilanzierten Gewinn.
- Er ist oft die solideste Grundlage für nachhaltige Dividenden und Aktienrückkäufe.
- Sinkender FCF kann ein Warnsignal sein – auch wenn der Gewinn stabil aussieht.
📘 Umsatzwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Umsatzwachstum zeigt, wie stark sich die Erlöse eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert haben – tatsächlich (TTM) und auf Prognosebasis (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (Umsatz erwartet ÷ Umsatz Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein wachsender Umsatz ist ein zentrales Signal für steigende Nachfrage, Geschäftsausweitung und Marktanteilsgewinne – besonders bei Wachstumsunternehmen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachstum ist der Motor langfristiger Wertsteigerung – besonders bei Technologie- und Wachstumsaktien.
- Wichtig ist nicht nur das aktuelle Wachstum, sondern auch dessen Nachhaltigkeit.
- Prognosen zeigen, ob Analysten weiteres Potenzial erwarten – oder eine Verlangsamung.
📘 EBITDA-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBITDA-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBITDA ÷ EBITDA Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein steigendes EBITDA ist ein Zeichen für verbesserte operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Finanzierungsstruktur oder Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Starkes EBITDA-Wachstum signalisiert operative Effizienz und Skalierung – besonders relevant in Wachstumsphasen.
- EBITDA-Wachstum ist ein Frühindikator für Margen- und Gewinnentwicklung – sollte aber stets im Zusammenhang mit Umsatz und EBIT betrachtet werden.
📘 EBIT Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBIT-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens (nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern) im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gewachsen ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBIT ÷ EBIT Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein direkter Indikator für die wirtschaftliche Entwicklung des operativen Geschäfts – unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (Abschreibungen).
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Steigendes EBIT signalisiert wachsende operative Rentabilität – auch unter Berücksichtigung von Abschreibungen.
- Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein wichtiges Maß zur Beurteilung von Geschäftsmodellen mit hohen Investitionskosten.
- Im Zusammenspiel mit Umsatz- und EBITDA-Wachstum ergibt sich ein umfassendes Bild zur operativen Entwicklung.
📘 Nettogewinn-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Nettogewinn-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark der Jahresüberschuss eines Unternehmens gegenüber dem Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist – sowohl tatsächlich (TTM) als auch auf Basis von Prognosen (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwarteter Nettogewinn ÷ Nettogewinn Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Der erwartete Wert basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Gewinn ist die entscheidende Ergebnisgröße für ein Unternehmen. Ein wachsender Nettogewinn deutet auf steigende Effizienz, stabile Kostenkontrolle und nachhaltige Ertragskraft hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachsender Nettogewinn stärkt die Bewertung, Dividendenfähigkeit und Kursfantasie.
- Stagnierender oder rückläufiger Gewinn trotz Umsatzwachstum kann auf Margendruck hinweisen.
📘 Free Cashflow-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Free-Cashflow-Wachstum zeigt, wie sich der freie Mittelzufluss eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert hat – also der Betrag, der nach allen operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Free Cashflow ist der echte, verfügbare Geldzufluss. Wachstum in diesem Bereich ist ein Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und steigende Flexibilität bei Dividenden, Rückkäufen oder Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Sinkender Free Cashflow kann auf steigende Investitionen, höhere Kosten oder stagnierende operative Erträge hindeuten.
- Besonders bei Dividendenwerten ist das FCF-Wachstum wichtig – denn Dividenden werden letztlich aus dem verfügbaren Cash gezahlt.
- Ein negativer Trend sollte genauer analysiert werden – er ist nicht zwangsläufig schlecht, aber potenziell ein Warnsignal.
📘 Bruttomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Bruttomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellungskosten (Material, Produktion) als Bruttogewinn übrig bleibt – also der „Rohgewinn“ eines Unternehmens.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Auch: Bruttomarge = Bruttogewinn ÷ Umsatz × 100
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Bruttomarge gibt Aufschluss über die Profitabilität eines Produkts oder Geschäftsmodells vor Fixkosten, Steuern und Zinsen. Sie zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen produzieren oder einkaufen kann.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Bruttomarge deutet auf starke Preissetzungsmacht und effiziente Herstellung hin.
- Sinkende Bruttomargen können auf Kostensteigerungen oder Preisdruck hindeuten.
- Besonders im Vergleich zu Wettbewerbern liefert die Bruttomarge wertvolle Einblicke in die Geschäftsqualität.
📘 EBITDA-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBITDA-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz als operativer Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) übrig bleibt. Sie misst die operative Effizienz – ohne Verzerrungen durch Finanzierung oder Buchwerte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBITDA-Marge hilft zu verstehen, wie viel operativer Gewinn ein Unternehmen aus jedem Euro Umsatz erzielt – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder steuerlichem Umfeld.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBITDA-Marge zeigt starke operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Bilanzierungseffekten.
- Die Marge ermöglicht gute Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen und Branchen.
- Ein stabiler oder wachsender Wert kann auf effiziente Kostenkontrolle und Skalierbarkeit hindeuten.
📘 EBIT-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBIT-Marge zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Umsatzes als operativer Gewinn nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern übrig bleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBIT-Marge misst die operative Ertragskraft eines Unternehmens unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (z. B. Maschinen, Anlagen). Sie eignet sich gut zum Vergleich von Geschäftsmodellen mit unterschiedlich hohen Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBIT-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen auch nach Abschreibungen effizient arbeitet.
- Sie ist besonders relevant in kapitalintensiven Branchen.
- Langfristig stabile oder steigende Margen sind ein Zeichen wirtschaftlicher Stärke und Preissetzungsmacht.
📘 Nettomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz am Ende als „Reingewinn“ übrig bleibt – also nach Abzug aller Kosten, Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Nettomarge gibt an, wie effizient ein Unternehmen über alle Stufen hinweg wirtschaftet. Sie zeigt, wie viel Gewinn tatsächlich je Euro Umsatz übrig bleibt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Nettomarge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nicht nur operativ stark ist, sondern auch seine Finanzierung und Steuerbelastung im Griff hat.
- Vergleiche mit Wettbewerbern geben Einblicke in die wirtschaftliche Qualität.
- Sinkende Nettomargen trotz Umsatzwachstum können ein Warnsignal sein – etwa für steigende Kosten oder sinkende Effizienz.
📘 Free Cashflow Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug aller operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen tatsächlich als freier Mittelzufluss übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Marge misst die echte Liquidität, die ein Unternehmen erwirtschaftet – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder Abschreibungen. Sie ist besonders relevant für Dividenden, Rückkäufe und Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nachhaltig liquide Mittel erwirtschaftet.
- Sie ist ein starkes Signal für finanzielle Stabilität und Ausschüttungspotenzial.
- Wichtig ist der langfristige Trend – sinkende Werte können auf steigende Investitionen oder rückläufige operative Effizienz hindeuten.
📘 Eigenkapitalquote
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalquote zeigt, wie hoch der Anteil des Eigenkapitals an der Bilanzsumme eines Unternehmens ist – also wie stark es sich aus eigenen Mitteln finanziert.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote steht für finanzielle Stabilität, Krisenfestigkeit und gute Bonität. Sie ist besonders relevant bei der Beurteilung der Verschuldung.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote signalisiert finanzielle Stabilität – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf ein höheres Risiko oder eine aggressive Verschuldung hinweisen.
- Wichtig: Die Eigenkapitalquote sollte immer gemeinsam mit der Eigenkapitalrendite betrachtet werden. Nur so lässt sich beurteilen, ob ein Unternehmen nicht nur solide, sondern auch effizient wirtschaftet.
📘 Eigenkapitalrendite (ROE)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen mit dem Kapital seiner Aktionäre arbeitet – also wie viel Gewinn es pro Euro Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite ist eine zentrale Rentabilitätskennzahl. Sie hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob das Unternehmen eine attraktive Verzinsung auf das eingesetzte Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalrendite spricht für ein starkes, effizientes Geschäftsmodell.
- Besonders interessant ist sie bei kapitalintensiven Firmen oder solchen mit hoher Eigenkapitalquote.
- Wichtig: Ein sehr hoher ROE kann auch auf hohe Schulden hinweisen – daher sollte sie immer im Kontext mit der Eigenkapitalquote betrachtet werden.
📘 Return on Capital Employed (ROCE)
📈 Was ist das?
ROCE misst die Gesamtrentabilität eines Unternehmens – also wie effizient es das eingesetzte Kapital (Eigen- und Fremdkapital) zur Gewinnerzielung nutzt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Das eingesetzte Kapital ist das gesamte betriebsnotwendige Kapital, unabhängig von der Finanzierungsquelle.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROCE eignet sich besonders gut für den Vergleich unterschiedlich finanzierter Unternehmen. Es zeigt, wie effektiv ein Unternehmen Kapital investiert – unabhängig von der Kapitalstruktur.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROCE zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen sein Kapital effizient einsetzt – unabhängig davon, ob es durch Eigen- oder Fremdkapital finanziert ist.
- Je höher der ROCE im Vergleich zu ähnlichen Unternehmen, desto mehr Wert schafft das Unternehmen mit seinem investierten Kapital.
- Besonders wichtig ist der ROCE bei Firmen mit hohen Investitionen – z. B. in Industrie, Energie oder Infrastruktur.
📘 Return on Invested Capital (ROIC)
📈 Was ist das?
ROIC zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen das Kapital investiert, das langfristig im operativen Geschäft gebunden ist – unabhängig davon, ob es aus Eigen- oder Fremdkapital stammt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
- NOPAT = „Net Operating Profit After Taxes“
- Investiertes Kapital = operatives Vermögen abzüglich nicht-verzinster Schulden
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROIC ist eine der präzisesten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung der Kapitalrendite – besonders im Vergleich zur Eigenkapitalrendite, weil es Verzerrungen durch Schulden vermeidet. Er zeigt, ob ein Unternehmen Mehrwert für alle Kapitalgeber schafft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROIC zeigt, wie gut ein Unternehmen mit dem tatsächlich investierten (betriebsnotwendigen) Kapital wirtschaftet.
- Im Unterschied zu ROCE wird nur Kapital betrachtet, das wirklich zur Finanzierung operativer Aktivitäten dient – und verzinst werden muss.
- Besonders hilfreich, um die Kapitalrendite von Unternehmen mit viel „überschüssigem“ Kapital oder zinsfreien Verbindlichkeiten realistisch zu vergleichen.
📘 Verschuldungsgrad (Leverage Ratio)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Verschuldungsgrad zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen durch verzinsliche Schulden (z. B. Kredite und Anleihen) im Verhältnis zum Eigenkapital finanziert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Kennzahl hilft, das finanzielle Risiko und die Abhängigkeit von Fremdkapital zu beurteilen. Ein hoher Verschuldungsgrad kann die Eigenkapitalrendite steigern – birgt aber auch erhöhte Risiken bei Zinsanstiegen oder Liquiditätsengpässen.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Verschuldungsgrad steht für finanzielle Stabilität und Unabhängigkeit.
- Ein hoher Wert kann auf erhöhte Risiken hinweisen – insbesondere bei schwankenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
- Wichtig: Immer im Kontext zur Branche und Kapitalintensität bewerten.
📘 Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS)
📈 Was ist das?
Das Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) zeigt, wie viel Gewinn auf eine einzelne Aktie entfällt – und ist eine der wichtigsten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung von Unternehmen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die verwässerte Aktienanzahl berücksichtigt auch potenzielle neue Aktien, etwa durch Optionen, Wandelanleihen oder andere Umtauschrechte.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EPS bildet die Basis für viele Bewertungskennzahlen wie KGV, PEG oder Payout Ratio. Es macht den Gewinn für Aktionäre vergleichbar – unabhängig von der Unternehmensgröße.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EPS hilft, die Profitabilität pro Aktie zu erfassen – und ist besonders wichtig im Zeitvergleich oder im Vergleich mit Analystenschätzungen.
- Steigendes EPS kann ein Zeichen für stabiles Wachstum oder Aktienrückkäufe sein.
- Wichtig: Verwende verwässertes EPS für realistische Bewertungen – besonders bei stark aktienbasierten Vergütungssystemen.
📘 Free Cashflow je Aktie (FCF je Aktie)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow je Aktie zeigt, wie viel freier Mittelzufluss einem Unternehmen pro Aktie zur Verfügung steht – nach Investitionen, aber vor Dividenden oder Schuldentilgung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der FCF je Aktie zeigt, wie viel liquide Mittel pro Aktie tatsächlich im Unternehmen verbleiben – wichtig für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldentilgung. Im Gegensatz zum Gewinn ist er schwerer manipulierbar und daher besonders aussagekräftig.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow je Aktie ist ein Zeichen für hohe finanzielle Flexibilität.
- Er zeigt, wie viel Kapital ein Unternehmen effektiv einsetzen oder ausschütten kann.
- Besonders relevant für dividendenstarke Unternehmen oder solche mit starker Kapitalrendite.
📘 Short Interest
📈 Was ist das?
Short Interest zeigt, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell leerverkauft wurden – also von Investoren geliehen und verkauft, in der Erwartung fallender Kurse.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Der Wert zeigt den Anteil der Aktien, der aktuell auf fallende Kurse spekuliert wird.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Short Interest dient als Stimmungsindikator: Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Skepsis oder negative Erwartungen gegenüber dem Unternehmen hin – kann aber auch zu einem „Short Squeeze“ führen, wenn der Kurs plötzlich steigt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Short Interest deutet auf Vertrauen in das Unternehmen hin.
- Ein hoher Wert kann ein Warnsignal sein – oder eine Chance, wenn sich die Stimmung dreht.
- Besonders spannend in volatilen Märkten oder vor wichtigen Quartalszahlen.
📘 Employees
📈 Was ist das?
Die Mitarbeiteranzahl zeigt, wie viele Personen ein Unternehmen weltweit beschäftigt – ein Indikator für Größe, Struktur und Geschäftsmodell.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft bei der Einschätzung von Skaleneffekten, Effizienz und Personalkosten. Zusammen mit Umsatz und Gewinn lassen sich Kennzahlen wie Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ableiten.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Viele Mitarbeiter bedeuten große operative Komplexität – aber auch hohes Umsatzpotenzial.
- Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ist ein wichtiger Indikator für Effizienz.
- Besonders spannend bei stark wachsenden Tech- oder Industrieunternehmen.
📘 Umsatz je Mitarbeiter
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz je Mitarbeiter zeigt, wie viel Erlös ein Unternehmen durchschnittlich pro Beschäftigtem erwirtschaftet – eine Kennzahl für Effizienz und Produktivität.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die Mitarbeiterzahl stammt in der Regel aus dem letzten verfügbaren Jahresbericht.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Geschäftsmodelle zu vergleichen – insbesondere zwischen arbeitsintensiven und technologiegetriebenen Unternehmen. Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Automatisierung, Effizienz oder hohen Wertschöpfungsanteil hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Umsatz je Mitarbeiter spricht für ein skalierbares und margenstarkes Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf arbeitsintensive Prozesse oder geringere Wertschöpfung hinweisen.
- Besonders hilfreich beim Vergleich von Tech- vs. Industrieunternehmen.
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1. Management Discussion
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Emilia Rannanniemi. I'm from Finnair Investor Relations, and I want to welcome you all to this fleet renewal update by Finnair fleet renewal update. I'm joined here today by CEO, Turkka Kuusisto; and CFO, Pia Aaltonen-Forsell.
And they will first start by giving a presentation on the news that were announced today. After that, we will have a Q&A session where also Chief Revenue Officer, Christine Rovelli, will be present. You can ask questions by either dialing into the conference call or via the chat function in the webinar platform. With these words, I hand over you to you, Turkka.
Thank you, Emilia, and very -- good afternoon, and thank you for joining us with such a short notice. But for us at Finnair, this is a very exciting day. We are finally in the position of sharing the news about our partial narrow-body renewable program. It has been a project that we've run over the past 18 months. And today, I'm actually super happy when it comes to the outcome of this very diligent, very thorough process that we have run over the past months. And I also pretty much also very proud of the team because it hasn't been easy to run such a project, given that it still the very persistent supply chain issues that our industry have faced.
But today, we have announced that we have signed a purchase agreement with Embraer on 18 firm orders for E195 E2 Aircraft with additional 16 options and well purchase rights. And this forms the renewal of our regional fleet when it comes to our future development. Parallel, we have today also communicated our intention to acquire up to 12 Airbus 320, 321 CEOs from the used aircraft market to replace our retiring 390s and 320 aircraft at the mainline side. And these actions is a perfect optimal combination in my opinion, when it comes to support the strategy and execute on it based on the financial ambition level and the strategic priorities that we communicated with the external stakeholders in connection with the capital markets update, November 2025.
So as said, this is an optimal solution to balance the growth and profitability, and we will allocate these E2 aircraft to our Nora platform, and we will then replace the least capacity and older aircraft once we start to get these new aircraft in during the second half of 2027. When it comes to options and purchase rights, the potential use will be then decided at a later stage. And as already mentioned, the incoming secondhand 320s and 321 CEOs will be replacing the retiring 390s and 320s of the Finnair fleet. And this particular aircraft type have been the ones whose average lifetime is already beyond 23 years.
So therefore, this replacement by secondhand CEOs will provide us with a perfect bridge solution when it comes to the capacity replacement and CapEx capacity increase during this decade. And then going back to the capital markets update that we held mid-November last year, this was the one pager when it comes to our strategy for customers in the spotlight and then the flywheel around it. And this investment scheme is a pivotal element when it comes to the convenience sector and then providing our customers a network that they really appreciate and want to fly.
And then speaking of the investment. In the current world order, we have emphasized the role and importance of the regional network. And this investment genuinely fuels a stronger regional network to all of our customers but more specifically for the core customers. And at the same time, it enables us to execute on the increased profitability target level and also secure the competitiveness of thinner network and flights and also the cost competitiveness that is actually extremely important perspective when it comes to taking this company to the next chapter.
At the same time, the E2 will also enable upgraded customer experience when it comes to the Embraer fleet that is operated by Nora. And then finally, the next-generation aircraft and mainly the engines are also supporting very positively when it comes to meeting our climate targets. And there, it is extremely beautiful aircraft with Finnair livery.
So, these beauties will start to arrive at Helsinki housing base during the second half of 2027. A few additional remarks related to the network communicated in the capital markets update, we intend to capture our share of the market growth, 4% CAGR during this decade. And again, these investments enable us to do. So we continue to further develop the regional network to serve our core customers and open new destinations only for 2026, we have introduced 14 new destinations, both in Europe and also in some long-haul destinations.
With such an aircraft type and combination, we are also in a very good position when it comes to agility. Additional frequencies to our current destinations to really benefit from the passenger flows and the increasing demand. And that is hugely important from the network carrier strategy point of view because with this more wide and more frequent regional operation, we can then more beneficially fill our widebody aircraft towards Asia and also North America. And then, of course, allocating the right size aircraft to each route is in the very heart of profitable airline business and operations.
And on the right-hand side, you can see an illustrative slide chart which is extremely important to highlight that the E2 aircraft or generation is much more capable from the range point of view. Up to 2,600 nautical miles, which translates into close to 5,000 kilometers. So E2 can actually serve the Iberian Peninsula from Helsinki. So therefore, we are also capable of covering Spain, Italy and Northern Mediterranean with the selected aircraft type. And then speaking of the aircraft, E2, we've selected a 134-seat seater in 2-plus-2 configuration. The seat will be between 29 to 30 inches, which is pretty much equivalent that we have currently in our narrow-body fleet. All seats will have a reclining -- recline functionality for additional comfort and all the seats will be equipped with high power USB charging in each seat.
And then finally, all new aircraft will also provide the customers with high-speed Internet connectivity. We have decided to install the third lavatory for minimal queuing time on board, again, putting customers preferences and customer experience on the spotlight of the development. And then, of course, the cabin design will reflect our brand and the business of Finnishness as we have started to cascade in our brand management and thinking.
And then finally, when it comes to fuel efficiency and also CO2 reduction, which is, of course, a very important topic also in our industry. The E2s are powered by Pratt & Whitney BW1900G engines that provides us with over 30% reduction in CO2 emissions per seat versus the current generation E190E1s. And then in addition to CO2 reduction, this is one of the most quiet planes when it comes to our single-aisle aircraft globally. And that is, of course, both from the customer experience point of view, but also from the kind of a sound pollution point of view, something that we really appreciate.
Our agreement with Pratt & Whitney includes also some spare engines as well as maintenance agreement and then we will receive the latest hardware available for this engine type. Maybe I would finish my presentation on my section by recapping the financial targets that we launched in connection with the capital markets update, November 2025 capturing the market growth with the same pace with the market growth, plus 4% CAGR and then comparable EBIT range from 6% to 8% and then the investment range that we communicated from EUR 2 billion to EUR 2.5 billion, but Pia will actually comment this KPI when she will start her section.
But given all this, and given what I just mentioned when it comes to this investment scheme that is supporting extremely well what we are also kind of aiming achieving from the financial targets and performance point of view.
But maybe with this first, I would leave it for Pia to discuss a bit of the details.
Thank you, Turkka. And dear, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Pia Aaltonen-Forsell. I'm CFO at Finnair since August of last year. So obviously, the work to conclude this big project has started long before I was here, but I have certainly seen what an important part of our strategic journey this is. And thank you, Turkka, for also putting this in the perspective of our strategy and the CMD and what we have presented in November of last year.
So I would like to focus briefly on three things: The first one is putting this news into the perspective of our current fleet; the second one is discussing our readiness from a balance sheet perspective, from a funding perspective; and thirdly, just a brief recap on the time schedule, especially on the Embraer deliveries and then some comments on the cash flows there.
So with that in mind, I'll start first with recap. This data was also referred to in our CMD. And what I'm discussing here is our current fleet. So obviously, I kind of start at the bottom of the page right now because I do want to point out first that this agreement on the Embraer on the E2 certainly gives us that opportunity to grow our regional network in a very profitable way. So you can see here the current fleet of the 12 Embraers. Now we are also growing that on the Nora platform up to 18. So this is sort of a good and sound and very balanced way for us to add also to that feeder traffic to our long haul.
So obviously, sort of a good first checkpoint. Then in conjunction with the narrow-body renewal, we have discussed the detail that you can see here in that section for the narrow-body, which says that especially when it comes to the Airbus 319 and 320 of our current fleet, we do have the aging fleet as an issue that we need to address. And with the announcement that we did today about acquiring or starting to negotiate about acquiring up to 12 used Airbus 320 or 321 conventional engine options. This certainly for us, is a very cost-efficient way of replacing that aging part of the fleet.
And I also, of course, want to give some credit to the fact that our fleet team is working so diligently. I mean the market situation is very dynamic and where we see it today, we see that we are in a position to start such negotiations. Then finally, on the widebody. Obviously, this is the crown jewel also of our fleet today. We still have one Airbus 350 that is coming in from that campaign that was started more than a decade ago. So I think we are sort of well set up there.
There's one more detail. You may recall also from our announcements in the autumn that we talked about midterm capacity, and we may still consider adding some used aircraft such as E1s or ATRs to our fleet here, especially here on the regional side because we do need to bridge these different steps. So that's still on our agenda, just as announced before.
And I think this sort of complete picture here shows our also agility and flexibility and ability to react to different market situations and choose what is optimal for Finnair and our strategy. So then the question is kind of how have we prepared for this from the funding and the balance sheet perspective. So let me first start by just showing sort of the longer-term development of our leverage. you can see that we have reached again after, of course, the double crisis and many, many actions that were taken in conjunction with that. Where we stand today is, sort of, again on firm ground we have been able to get our leverage at the year-end. It was 1.8x. It means we are already within the boundaries of our financial targets.
We have a good credit rating BB+ with a stable outlook. And obviously, as well, we have restored an ability for shareholder distributions as also announced in our Q4 results. So I think sort of here, here we have set the basis. We have the CLAs in place as we speak. So the starting point is good. On the next page here, I would particularly focus on the cash flow development that you can see on the graph on the right-hand side. And I think that ability to generate on a normalized basis, a cash flow at operating cash flow of around or above EUR 500 million per year. That's obviously a cornerstone as well in how we think about the funding of these fleet investments.
And you can see that even in a year such as 2025, which started off on a more difficult foot where we also had some conflicts and in the end, had a very strong end to the year, but a difficult beginning of the year. There, you can also see that our cash flow remained above EUR 400 million mark. So I think, let's say, holistically, this track record and history shows that our ability to generate the cash for funding this is already on a strong footing. I want to briefly comment also on the recent situation with the war in Iran and obviously, the extremely turbulent situation also when it comes to our main cost item, jet fuel, and this is a very serious situation that sort of impacts everyone in the world as we stand and, of course, as well Aviation.
From a short-term perspective, I think we have shared in the public as well that our hedging situation according to our policy, I would say, this is giving us some protection in the short term. And obviously, for the longer term, we have a number of responses in place. Maybe happy to discuss them at a later point in more detail. But I think nonetheless, we are now talking about sort of setting here some important cornerstones for Finnair's long-term development.
And with the current cash flow with the current balance sheet, and with as well, I would say, a broad range of tools available for us in terms of funding, we feel confident to make this decision. Maybe a final point on funding is that when we are looking at the current debt instruments that we have out there, we have the bond of EUR 500 million maturing in 2029, the one of EUR 300 million in 2030. So I mean, I think we have made sort of good preparations and have a good readiness for this decision.
So then on to my final point. it's actually a very easy timing sort of time line here, Turkka has already discussed. The key topic, which is that Q3, Q4 '27, we will get the first three deliveries here, which we are, of course, eagerly waiting for right now. But I wanted to give a few sort of initial points on the timing of the cash flows. So first of all, now as we have reached this point of agreement, there are some initial cash outs that we would expect during this year. And I think when we have earlier announced that our CapEx of this year would maybe be around, let's call it, EUR 450 million, then maybe about 10% of that we will now allocate into the prepayments or sort of signing related and other payments that would occur during this year.
Then we will, of course, have outgoing cash flows on a rolling basis as we get the aircraft into our fleet. So you can see that this, of course, campaign in its entirety would extend well beyond our current strategy period until 2029. But if we look at sort of what we could expect in terms of what we now have in firm orders and then some fees relating to options and purchase rights and other topics. I would say probably we would use more than 50% of this full amount that has now been committed by the end of 2029. But we can come back with some more exact data once we have still sort of also confirmed the other parts that we have announced today.
So from where I stand today and from what we know today, I think that within this CapEx guidance that we gave for the full strategy period. So until end of 2029, we said that it would be between EUR 2 billion and EUR 2.5 billion. I think now we are sort of going towards the lower end of that. And once we have also then concluded on acquiring these used aircraft, then we are in a position to give an even more sort of firm figure because this, what we have announced today is also what is sort of concluding those major points, those major steps that we need to take within this strategy period to sort of fulfill the needs that we have within these years.
But with that said, I would complete my presentation. And Emilia, I would hand back to you.
Thank you, Turkka. Thank you, Peer. I'm sure the audience has some questions. Now is a good time to ask. You can either do so by following the instructions or using the chat function. And welcome Christine on stage as well.
[Operator Instructions]. The next question comes from Joonas Ilvonen from Evli.
2. Question Answer
Hi, Joonas Ilvonen from Evli. So your current naval fleet consists of 53 planes for a total of about 7,400 seats. And now if you were to exercise this investment program in full, you would acquire 58 planes for a total of about 8 -- more than 8,000 seats. So this is not just a renewable investment, it is a growth in investment also to some extent. And so I was wondering about some of your current Airbus A321 because it seems that some of those are not that old as the average is only about 11.5 years. So any comments on those? Are you going to replace them as well or...
Sure. Joonas, I'll take that one. Well, it's important to look at the order as we've structured it. So we have the firm order and then we have the options and the purchase rights. It sounds like you have included both the options on the purchase rights in your seat count totally, and there's a reason why those aren't firm orders because we haven't made a decision yet. As you know, the market is quite volatile these days. So we want to make sure that we have the ability, if we need to, to expand a bit if the market allows, but we also want to make sure that we have the retirements of the A320 fleet covered in the A319 fleet, which is what Turkka alluded to before. So the A321 fleet is not a fleet that we're looking at the moment with this process. Because as you point out, they are not ready for that yet.
Okay. So initially, it's just a renewal investment. And then maybe at some point, it might go out to be a growth investment in the coming years, maybe?
We're keeping that option open, yes.
Okay. That's clear. Then about the price of these new Embraers. I think as you mentioned that you said that the list price for this roughly like $90 million. Any comments on discounts? Like I think I saw somewhere that it's like up to 50% -- you can get up to 50% discount on these listing prices? Any comments on that?
Yes. So I can't comment on the exact price that we've paid for obvious reasons. I would say that there's a reason that the discount levels out there in the market are floating out there. So if you need something for your model, that's probably not a bad place to start, but I cannot comment on the price that we've paid.
Okay. What about this Airbus A320, 321 CEOs, you planned by use. I mean what kind of a -- any comments on that used price like $25 million per piece? Would you looking at something like that?
Yes, that's super -- the market is very varied right now. It depends on the carrier. Those aircraft are coming out of. So there are some vintage aircraft that we're looking at that might hit somewhere in there, but then there are also new aircraft coming out of a flight carrier, for example, that might be more expensive. We really don't know until we issue the RFP and get the bids back. So again, it will really depend on what we see when we get the RFP back.
My final question. Any comments on this. I think you earlier said that you plan to own most of these new claims, but you might also leave some of them well. So any comments on that at that you might be looking at?
Well, that's partially my question, partially Pia's question. So I will say that we will source the aircraft, and then I will let Pia answer the other comment.
Yes. Thank you, Christine. I mean, Joonas, if we look at our structure today, obviously, sort of from a value perspective, I think we are already a bit more than half, sort of, kind of, firmly in our own balance sheet. But I think sort of from where we stand today, it's still -- we will still face this question multiple times once we actually get the deliveries into our fleet. And I think at that point, we will always then take an informed decision, balancing kind of the availability of the funding, the price of the funding and all of that because we have those tools. But if you would ask for a preference, then I think we see value in also having fleet in our own balance sheet, and that gives some sort of -- some more flexibility but we would certainly not take that decision too early. We would take it at that point and with sort of all the right information being available then.
The next question comes from Victoria Moores from Air Transport World, ATW. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, and thank you for -- congratulations on finalizing the order. My questions are uust two. One is you mentioned that this was the perfect bridge solution. And I'm wondering, I think that, that was in relation to the A320 CEO. So could you explain kind of what the further plans are beyond the bridge as it were?
And then my second question, you mentioned that there's potential to take some interim aircraft, so E1s and ATRs before the new aircraft start delivering. Can you provide any color or detail on that, please?
Sure. So I'll start with your last question. First, we have already issued an RFP in the market for the E1s and the ATRs. So we are actively sourcing those now. That's with a view to getting some of them in the fleet as early as 2026. As Turkka mentioned, we will not be taking the aircraft from the Embraer order until the third quarter of 2027. So that -- the ATRs and the Embraers are the reason why we're looking to source those a little bit earlier. With respect to the bridging solution, you probably know, if you follow the industry that both of the OEMs right now don't have delivery positions for the larger narrow-bodies, the MAXs and the Airbus Neos until probably 2022 -- or 2032 or 2033. That doesn't coincide very well with the retirement age of our current narrowbody fleet, which starts in 2027.
We have done on ESG kit already on the A320 fleet. So we would like to be able to retire those aircraft when the ESG kit is finished, which is going to get, as I said, 2027, 2028, and that leaves us a gap. So that's the bridge that we are looking to create with the CEOs that we've announced today.
Okay. And may I just come in with a clarification on both those points. So one clarification was how many aircraft is the RFP for on the E1s and the ATRs. And then the second part is or the RFP on the A320, A321 CEOs, when are you anticipating that, that will be issued.
Well, again, taking the second question first. It will be imminently. We're in the process of preparing that now. So I can't say -- give you an exact date, but it will be quite soon. And for the second question, at the moment, we are out in the market looking for, I think it's 4 ATRs or 6 ATRs and Embraers.
The next question comes from Kaisa Vanha-Perttula from Inderes.
Good afternoon as well. This is Kaisa Vanha-Perttula from Inderes. So I have a few questions. So firstly, regarding on the E2 fleet. So when these aircraft come into service, is the primary objective to grow passenger volumes or to optimize the existing network? And also, how should we think about this in relation to the phaseout of the current A319 and A320 fleet?
I'll take that one. So I'll just start by giving a bit of background. We have the fleet currently in terms of number engaged that we had when the Russian air space was open. That network obviously has changed quite a bit. We've repositioned it and rebalanced it somewhat. So the gauges in the numbers of aircraft that we need are different. So it's not as simple as doing a one-for-one replacement of four, for example, in A319 or growing the regional fleet.
What we've looked to do is reorient the network. In terms of the home market, the Nordic market that we are serving, which by definition, has smaller destinations that are better suited to a smaller gauge of aircraft.
All right. And then as a follow-up then, on which routes or markets do you expect like this E2 to deliver the most meaningful improvement in profitability compared to the current fleet?
Well, that's not something I can disclose at the moment, but I think Turkka showed you a representative math of where we would look to deploy those aircraft.
Okay. And maybe lastly regarding on the potential acquisition of the used A320 and 321 CEO aircraft. So I mean, you already commented a little bit, I'm just asking a little bit color on how good visibility do you currently have on their availability? And can you comment any way that what kind of age profile are you targeting?
Sure. Well, our team looks after the used market for aircraft fairly consistently. So we've been tracking the market for quite a while, and we've been pretty pleased with the developments that we've seen in it recently in terms of availability and pricing. So I would definitely say that that's a very positive signal for us. And that's one of the reasons why we decided to make this move now.
And second, in terms of vintage, it's always a question in terms of how the aircraft is already configured versus how old it is. So I can't give any strong guidance there, but of course, we would look to secure the best aircraft we can for the network that we have.
[Operator Instructions]. The next question comes from Pasi Vaisanen from Nordea.
This is Pasi from Nordea. Two questions from my side. And the first one is related to yield for invested capital. So what is the figure you have actually used to make this investment decision in terms of yield for invested capital?
And secondly, when looking at your current fleet and this new prior plan. So what is the unit cost difference if you fly Spain with all Airbus compared to the new Embraer. So is there any difference in the unit cost? And can it be kind of offset by the changes in the unit-driven side then?
Thanks, Pasi. I think first of all, when you are looking for the yield to invested capital in the network setting, I think that sort of -- we need to look at the totality of how we can grow our network, how we can maintain our network. And maybe the calculation in its entirety is not something we would show here or share here publicly.
But obviously, we are looking at typical measurements, payback calculations, IRR, et cetera, but you need to put that into perspective of us kind of continuing to run and benefit from our full network. So this, for example, improvements in regional network are extremely important for also keeping our long-haul network current.
Then into your question of the unit cost differences. I think what we have shared today is that there is a big potential when it comes to fuel efficiency, of course, that goes hand-in-hand with CO2. CO2 also has cost. So I guess all of that we could be looking at and giving a figure. But if I remind you of where we set our strategic targets, so the strategic target of a EUR 100 million improvement by the end of 2029. We said that only a very small portion of that actually comes out of sort of cost improvement. Most of it was revenue related to modern retailing as well as the loyalty. So I think what we are doing here is more sort of preparing the ground having the setup where we can then also continue to grow the business and through that, also ensure our profitability.
And we do also get more costs, obviously, for a newer fleet. And there's a number of things sort of surrounding that. So in terms of the financial targets that we set, we haven't put in a big upside based on the difference in the cost for example, in flying to Spain with the two different types.
Excellent. Excellent. I understand. So just to kind of clarify, part of the investment is then paid by selling to kind of long-haul tickets to your 350 planes and that actually gives also the yield on a group level then for this investment.
I mean it's -- we are constantly optimizing for our full network. So yes.
The next question comes from Jaakko Tyrvainen from SEB.
Jaakko here, from SEB. On the 320s and 321, sorry, if I'm a bit repeating here, but did you say anything about the kind of a realistic time line for that purchase decision and negotiations, how fast you can consider to get those aircraft? Do we have to look at '27 or until '28.
So the aircraft that we would hope to be replacing with those aircraft retiring from the fleet in 2027. So that's when we would hope to start in-fleeting them. But of course, it's going to depend on the market conditions, how fast we can actually source and negotiate those transactions.
Then we have some questions in the chat as well. Let's start by one by Antti-Pekka Viljakainen. Do you need to negotiate with unions to execute this fleet plan in Finnair and/or in Nora?
No, we don't because the latest CLA that was agreed with the Finish Pilot Union in 2025 actually increased the number of jets that we can operate on the Nora platform. Previously, they were limited to 12%, but now the new CLA actually enables us to place a jets, i.e., now these new E2s on Nora platform. So from the CLA point of view, this is already kind of covered.
Then on engine-related questions by Andrew Lobbenberg. Any concerns about the reliability of the GTF engine. Clearly, E2 GTH has less troublesome than A320 family, but still not perfect.
Thanks, Andrew. So we had a lot of discussions with Pratt & Whitney, as you might imagine, throughout this process to get comfortable with where the build of the engine is currently and where they expect it to be by the time we take delivery of our aircraft in Q3 2027. So as you may know, they have been pretty public about the fact that the GTF advantage and the HPT will be installed on the engine latest Q3 2027. And so with that information and the understanding of what that actually means for the engine build itself, we felt comfortable moving forward with deliveries at that time.
And then some further questions by Andrew, how confident are you in being able to source used CEOs at reasonable prices? I think you touched upon this one already, but then continuing any preference for engines on used aircraft. Will you consider leases or you want to buy this?
Okay. So again, I'll answer the first two. I'll leave the last one to Pia. The first question, of course, was we do monitor the market consistently. And as I mentioned before, we've noticed over the last few months or so that the market has gotten much better for acquirers, it that way. So that's why we felt comfortable making this move now. With respect to engines, we actually currently operate both of the engine types that you would expect to find on a NEO.
We have the V2500s as well as the CFM. So we don't have any view on that at the moment. And as for the ownership profile, again, I will look to Pia to...
Thank you, Christine. Thank you, Andrew. I think just maybe repeating myself also from the CMD, but I still think we stand firmly sort of on the base idea that we have a cash flow and a balance sheet that would also support acquiring new assets to our balance sheet. But nonetheless, we will assess the opportunity also what's available also in terms of leases, maybe also in terms of some other instruments individually when we actually are at the point of delivery.
So depending on the market conditions then, and if it's sort of any guidance then currently and from where we stand today we have more than 50% of the value of our assets in our own balance sheet.
Then let's move on to other questions in the chat. Did you evaluate A320 Neo family or Boeing 737 MAX aircraft for the fleet replacement and if applicable, why did you decide not to acquire new generation narrow bodies?
So if I can just clarify whoever sent that, you're talking, did we look at those aircraft instead of the E2 or instead of the CEOs? If I can just proactively answer the question, as I understand it, those are much larger aircraft than the E2. The E2 is better served that are suited to the smaller markets that we want to be able to expand into in order to feed our network. And then when we're looking at the CEOs versus placing a new order, I think I addressed this to some extent earlier, the availability just doesn't line up with what we would need for replacement for our current seal fleet, at least for the first -- the A319 and A320 the A321s, as we mentioned before, are younger.
And then the next question. Hello, Finnair is close to complete the revamping the cabin of its 12 Embraer fleet aligning with its stronghold design, but will Finnair sell its E1 fleet and when?
Well, we don't really have any plans at the moment to dispose of that fleet. We are going to be transitioning out of them as the new aircraft deliver. So the investment that we made in the interior will continue to pay us dividends until those aircraft are retired.
The next question, how does Finnair intend to remain competitive with the E195-E2 and its business class product. No free middle feed on medium-haul fleets.
Well, we're still working to refine the service concept there. So I would say in addition to the benefits that Turkka mentioned, which is first-generation WiFi and instant power and things like that, we are also looking at the other things that we will be providing to our premium passengers onboard that aircraft. So stay tuned.
And then another question from Andrew. I'm guessing you run the A220 against the E2. Anything to share on why the E2 wins out on the A220?
We wanted to make the best decision we could for the network that we operate. The A220 has a longer range, it carries more people. But the question was, was that something that was best used to our network or not. And at the end of the day, looking at those two aircraft together, we really felt like the E2 is the best decision.
Then are they used ATR, you are looking for going to be 500 or newer 600s?
We're looking at both types.
Thank you. Are there any questions on the phone lines? No. I suppose, that was it. No other questions. Thank you all for joining. And if you have any further questions, do reach out, and we'll be happy to answer those. And thank you, everyone, and have a nice day.
Thank you so much, and see you on board Finnair.
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Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Finnair Oyj, Embraer S.A. - M&A Call
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Finnair hat einen Kaufvertrag mit Embraer über 18 fest bestellte E195‑E2 (plus 16 Optionen/Purchase Rights) unterzeichnet; die Maschinen werden dem regionalen "Nora"-Netz zugeteilt und liefern ab H2/2027.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Flottenmix: E195‑E2 (134 Sitze, 2+2) ergänzt durch bis zu 12 gebrauchte A320/321 CEO als Brückenkapazität zur Pensionierung alter A319/A320.
- Operationeller Nutzen: Reichweite ~2.600 nm (~5.000 km) erlaubt Mittelmeereinsätze; dritte Toilette, High‑Speed‑WiFi und USB‑Power pro Sitz verbessern Produkt.
- Nachhaltigkeit: Pratt & Whitney GTF‑Triebwerk soll >30% CO2‑Reduktion pro Sitz vs. E190‑E1 bringen; Triebwerks‑Upgrades bis Q3/2027 erwartet.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Orderdetails: 18 firm, 16 Optionen/Purchase Rights; Lieferbeginn Q3–Q4 2027 (erste drei Deliveries).
- Cashflow/Timing: Finnair rechnet mit anfänglichen Auszahlungen noch in diesem Jahr (~10% von ca. EUR 450 Mio CapEx‑Plan für 2026 als Vorzahlungen) und erwartet >50% der Gesamtverpflichtung bis Ende 2029 zu nutzen.
- Finanzrahmen: CapEx‑Guidance für Strategieperiode bleibt EUR 2,0–2,5 Mrd; Management deutet auf Richtung des unteren Bereichs.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Preis & Rabatt: Nachfrage nach konkretem Kaufpreis blieb unbeantwortet; Management verweist auf marktübliche Abschläge, kommentiert aber keine Zahl.
- Ownership vs. Leasing: Finnair bevorzugt tendenziell Eigenbesitz (>50% der Aktiva), entscheidet aber deployment‑/funding‑abhängig bei Lieferung.
- Verfügbarkeit & Bridge: RFPs für gebrauchte E1/ATR (4–6 ATRs) und für CEO‑Nachteile werden bald ausgelöst; Embraer‑Lieferfenster und Engine‑Reife (Pratt & Whitney) als zentrale Voraussetzungen für Timing.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Für Embraer‑Investoren: Der Auftrag von Finnair bestätigt Nachfrage nach dem E195‑E2, stärkt Embraers Auftragspipeline und zeigt Vertrauen in Produktions‑/Triebwerkslösung (GTF). Kurzfristig ist der finanzielle Effekt begrenzt (Preis offen, Optionen noch ungewiss); mittelfristig stützt die Bestellung Produktionsauslastung und Folgepotenzial bei Ausübung der Optionen.
Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for standing by. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of the events and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. This conference call will be conducted in English, but please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language]
My name is Gui Paiva, and I'm the Head of Investor Relations, M&A and Venture Capital for Embraer. I want to welcome you to our fourth quarter of 2025 earnings conference call. The numbers in this presentation contain non-GAAP financial information to help investors reconcile Eve's financial information in GAAP standards to Embraer's IFRS. We remind you Eve's results will be discussed at the company's conference call. It is important to mention that all numbers are presented in U.S. dollars as it is our functional currency.
This conference call may include statements about future events based on Embraer expectations and financial market trends. Such statements are subject to uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in this conference call. Except in accordance with the applicable rules, the company assumes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. For detailed financial information, the company encourages reviewing publications filed by the company with the Brazilian Comissao de Valores Mobiliarios or CVM [Operator Instructions]
Participants on today's conference call are Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO of Embraer; Antonio Carlos Garcia, Chief Financial Officer; [ Baltasar de Sousa], Corporate Communications Manager; and myself. This conference call will have 3 parts. In the first part, top management will present the company's Q4 results. In the second part, we will host a Q&A session only for investors. And last but definitely not least, in the third part, we will host a dedicated Q&A session only for the press. It is my pleasure to now turn the conference call to our President and CEO, Francisco Gomes Neto. Please go ahead, Francisco.
Thank you, Gui, and good morning and good afternoon to everyone. It is a pleasure to be here with you to share Embraer's fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. 2025 was a remarkable period for our company. We met our deliveries guidance on the operational side, while we outperformed the expectations on the financial side. This performance reflects a longer trend. Embraer has been able to deliver 2 digits of revenue growth over the past 3 years despite the supply chain challenges.
2025 was also a marquee period for the E2 program with strong sales across all continents, which has consolidated further the E2 platform as a benchmark in the small narrow-body segment. At the company level, our record revenue and backlog provides strong visibility to investors about our ability to deliver sustainable growth for many years to come as we have robust processes and governance in place. We have made significant progress across the production chain through closer collaboration with suppliers, process digitalization and investments in artificial intelligence tools.
The production level initiatives have now been extended across all our platforms, and they should help support production stability in 2026 and onwards. We are well positioned in strategic markets, supported by partnerships under discussion with global players in India, Mahindra and Adani Group and in the U.S., Northrop Group. These partnerships reinforce our strategic position and support long-term growth potential across both our Commercial Aviation and Defense segments.
To conclude, all our business units are performing very well with solid execution and bigger backlogs. During the quarter, we saw a strong sales momentum across all business units. In Commercial Aviation highlights included new orders from TrueNoord for 20 E195-E2s, Helvetic Airways for 3 E195-E2s as well as 4 E175 orders from Cote d'Ivoire. In Executive Aviation, revenues reached an all-time high of circa $750 million as we delivered 53 business jets, the highest number ever in a single quarter.
In Defense & Security, we reinforced our global footprint with Sweden's order for 4 KC-390 plus 90 options. And Portugal signed a 6 aircraft order along with 10 options for NATO countries. Finally, in Service and Support, we signed an E195-E2 pool program with Airlink and the maintenance service extension with the Republic for its E1 fleet. Let me now walk you through our sales performance for the full year. During the 12 months, Commercial Aviation recorded 157 E2 new orders across all continents, plus 140 options. In addition, the E1 program reinforced its market position with 64 new orders plus 68 options.
These achievements increased the division's backlog to $14.5 billion with an impressive 2.8:1 book-to-bill ratio. In Executive Aviation, total sales reached approximately $2.3 billion, supported by strong demand across the portfolio, including the continued success of the Phenom 300, now the world's best-selling light jet for 14 straight years. The backlog in the division now stands at $7.6 billion, supported by a consistent 1.1:1 book-to-bill ratio. Defense & Security achieved another strong year with 5 KC-390 aircraft sold to 2 NATO countries, plus 19 additional options and 10 A-29 Super Tucanos sold to Uruguay, Panama and Sierra Nevada.
The business unit closed the quarter with a $4.6 billion backlog and a 1.4:1 book-to-bill ratio. Finally, in Service and Support, the sales momentum remained strong. During the year, the program added approximately 75 aircraft and the Executive Care program signed another 37 new contracts. As a result, the business unit finished the quarter with a $4.9 billion backlog and a 1.2:1 book-to-bill ratio. Together, these results drove a consolidated 1.7:1 book-to-bill ratio for Embraer in 2025.
I will now move on to our operational results for the year, and my comments will reflect year-over-year comparisons. In Commercial Aviation, revenues increased by 7%, driven by higher volumes. The adjusted EBITDA margin improved from 2.5% to 2.7%, supported by lower expenses. Executive Aviation, revenues increased a significant 25%. The adjusted EBITDA margin increased from 11.7% to 12%. The gains recorded from higher volumes, pricing and operating leverage more than offset the negative impact of U.S. tariffs.
Moving to Defense & Security. Revenues grew 36%, mainly because of higher KC-390 and A-29 Super Tucano volumes. The adjusted EBITDA margin improved from 6.2% to 7.9% as a consequence of operating leverage and client mix. In Service and Support, revenues rose 18%, driven by higher volumes and the ramp-up of the OGMA GTF engine shop. Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased from 16.5% to 15.5%, mainly because of the ramp-up of new operations.
Before I conclude, I would like to share a brief update on EV's steady progress. The first flight of EV's eVTOL prototype in December 2025 marked an important milestone. Since then, our full-scale prototype has run 28 missions for a total of more than 1 hour in over flights. The program continues to advance through flight tests towards certification in 2027.
Thank you, Francisco. Good morning and good afternoon to everyone. I'd like to start by highlighting that despite a year marked by challenges and volatility, the company remains focused on disciplined execution, delivering results in line with its commitments. Let's now take a closer look at our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2025. All my comments will be based on year-over-year comparison unless otherwise noted.
Turning to next slide, I will start with deliveries. In the last quarter, Embraer delivered 91 aircraft, 32 commercial jets, 53 executive jets and 6 defense related. This represents a 21% increase with Commercial Aviation deliveries up 3% and Executive Aviation up significant 20%. More importantly, for the full year, we delivered 78 jets in Commercial Aviation for a 7% increase and in line with our 77 to 85 aircraft guidance for the period. Meanwhile, in Executive Aviation, we delivered 155 jets, up a relevant 20% during the period and at the high end of our 145 to 155 aircraft guidance for the year.
In Slide 12, backlog and revenue. Our company-wide backlog reached $31.6 billion during the quarter, up a significant 20% and higher than our previous record. The backlog for Commercial Aviation and Defense & Security increased plus 42% and plus 10%, respectively, for support plus 7% and for Executive Aviation plus 3%. In addition to our firm backlog, we currently have approximately $20 billion in options held by our customers. These are not included in our backlog, but they represent a meaningful upside potential over the coming years.
As these options are exercised, they could support a significant expansion of our backlog, potentially profit towards $50 billion over time. Beyond the size of the backlog, it is also important to focus on its quality and overall composition. The current backlog reflects a more attractive customer mix, which positions the company for a more favorable firm margin profile perspective over time. Any financial impacts from this mix will continue to depend on execution, delivery phasing and external factors.
Moving on to revenues. Our top line increased 15% and almost reached $3 billion in Q4 '25. From a business perspective, our revenue remained well diversified across segments. Commercial Aviation accounted for 37%, Executive Aviation, approximately 30%, Service and Support around 20%; and Defense & Security 13%. Our top line of $7.6 billion for the full year was above the high end of our guidance, an increase of plus 18% when compared to 2024.
Moving to the next slide, please. We generated $298 million in adjusted EBITDA in Q4 '25 with an 11.3% mark and $889 million in the year with an 11.7% mark. compared to 12.1% margin a year ago if we exclude the onetime impact of the Boeing agreement. Slide 14, adjusted EBIT. Now adjusted EBIT was $231 million for the quarter with an 8.7% margin compared to 11.5% in the same period a year ago. As we highlighted in our last earnings call, we expected a relevant impact from U.S. imported tariffs in Q4. In addition, we faced additional infrastructure-related costs, which weighed on margins.
Tariffs totaled $27 million during the period and nonrecurring infrastructure costs reached $20 million. For the year, we generated $657 million with the same 8.7% margin, in line with last year if we exclude the onetime Boeing gift and surpassing the upper end of our 8.3% guidance for 2025. This performance was achieved despite the impact of U.S. import tariffs and reflects our discipline in our ongoing cost reduction initiatives and efficiency gains.
Let's move now to the next slide. Embraer generated $738 million in adjusted free cash flow in the quarter, mainly supported by operations, higher number of aircraft delivered and sales campaign. For 2025, we generated $491 million in adjusted free cash flow and helped the company to cover on average close to 60% of its EBITDA in free cash flow over the past 3 years. The 2025 figure compares to $676 million in 2024, which includes a one-off $150 million inflow related to the Boeing agreement. We exceeded our guidance of $200 million or higher, supported by our continued efforts to reduce working capital requirements.
Looking now at our investments, excluding Eve, we allocated almost $100 million during the quarter. The figure includes $27 million in CapEx, $34 million in addition to intangibles, $12 million in the Pool program to support new contracts and $27 million in research. On a yearly basis, Embraer stand-alone invested a total of $383 million in 2025, 10% lower compared to $428 million in 2024. Our capital allocation continues to be geared towards segments with higher returns, such as Executive Aviation Service and Support, mainly in U.S. We continue to see our CapEx run rate at close to $400 million per year in the near future.
In Slide 16, adjusted net income. Our adjusted net income was positive $153 million for the quarter, supported by a 5.8% adjusted margin compared to 7.5% in the same period last year. Meanwhile, we ended the year with $253 million in the adjusted net income compared to $461 million in the prior year. We finished the year with a 3.3% adjusted margin. It was lower than 7.2% recorded in 2024. I would like to emphasize the decline was mainly driven by the onetime $150 million impact from the Boeing agreement, less favorable net results and U.S. import tariffs.
Turning to next slide, let me walk you through the financial bridge from our reported EBIT in 2025 to both reported and adjusted net income. We finished the year with $608 million in EBIT after accounting for $340 million in net financial mainly inflated by the mark-to-market gains of our share price in our stock-based compensation plan, $91 million in tax credit and $7 million in minority interest. We arrived at $352 million in reported net income. To arrive at adjusted net income, we exclude extraordinary items. These adjustments included a negative $137 million related to deferred taxes, which was partially offset by a positive $38 million from [indiscernible] results. With that, we get $253 million in adjusted net income for the year.
Looking at the evolution of our earnings per share, we have seen solid sequential improvement over the past few years. EPS was negative $0.2 per ADS in 2021, improved to $1.4 per ADS in 2024 if we exclude the one-off related effect and reached $1.9 per ADS in 2025. This trajectory highlights the structural improvements in profitability and the progress we have made in strengthening the company's earnings profile over the past few years.
In Slide 18, financial position. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet throughout the year. And as a consequence, our liquidity position has increased significantly our stand-alone net debt decreased by $220 million, reaching a net cash position of $109 million at the end of 2025. The solid position of our balance sheet ensures the company remains well prepared to navigate potential volatility ahead. Consequently, our leverage position, excluding if improved further from 0.1x net debt to EBITDA to 0.1x net cash to EBITDA by the year-end.
As a reminder, in the third quarter, we announced a new liability management initiative, which was fully executed. The average maturity of Embraer debt without Eves increased to 9.1% from 3.7 years, significantly improving our debt maturity profile. Today, 96% of our debt is long term, which provides us with financial flexibility. Importantly, these actions also led to a reduction in our average cost of debt, which declined to 5.5% from 6.2%, further strengthening our financial profile.
Slide 19, shareholder remuneration. We declared a total of BRL 568 million in 2025 in shareholder remuneration, combining interest in equity and dividend. This amount corresponded to BRL 0.78 per share and represents a dividend yield of approximately 0.9%. As a reminder, this distribution should be complemented by an additional dividend to ensure compliance with the minimum 25% net income distribution required under the Brazilian corporate law. The full amount will be paid in a single installment following our 2026 Annual Shareholders Meeting.
Slide 20, guidance. Before I present our 2026 guidance, I would like to remind you, Embraer has delivered its financial estimates year in and year out since 2021, reflecting a disciplined approach to planning and execution. Now to conclude my presentation, let me go over the details of our 2026 guidance. In terms of operations, we forecast Commercial Aviation should deliver between 80 and 85 aircraft. Meanwhile, for Executive Aviation, we forecast 160 to 170 jets, representing a year-over-year increase of approximately 6% in both segments based on the midpoint of the range. Turning to financials. We forecast a consistent double-digit growth. We estimate top line to settle between $8.2 billion and $8.5 billion, with the midpoint of the range, 10% higher than what we generated last year.
We forecast EBIT margin between 8.7% and 9.3% for the year, which would imply around $750 million at the midpoint of the range and approximately 15% higher than the adjusted $657 million EBIT generated in 2025. Finally, if we move to free cash flow generation. We estimate an adjusted free cash flow without Eve of $200 million or higher for the year. Remember, our midterm goal is to convert 50% of our EBITDA in free cash flow. If we look from 2024 to 2026, we should generate circa $1.4 billion or more in free cash flow, which is 50% of circa $2.8 billion implied EBITDA by our 2024 and 2025 and our 2026 guidance.
It is important to highlight this guidance reflects our assessment of the operating environment prior to February '20 before the latest round of changes to U.S. import tariffs. We are taking a conservative approach at this point in time because of decreased policy uncertainty and prefer to wait for additional visibility before making any changes to our outlook. We will update or reiterate our 2026 guidance on a quarterly basis as the year goes by. Let me stop here, and now I hand it back to Francisco for his final remarks. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Antonio. To conclude, 2025 clearly marked the consolidation of our strategy across all businesses. In Commercial Aviation, record orders supported the consolidation of the E2 platform as they reinforced its global relevance and provided long-term visibility for the business. In Executive Aviation, strong retail and fleet demand supported by higher delivery volumes reflected the strength of our portfolio, which was further reinforced by the recent announcement of the next generation of the Praetor 500E and 600E.
In Defense & Security, we continue to advance KC-390 campaigns globally, including key strategic opportunities. In Service and Support, the growing footprint of our operations is strengthening our ability to generate recurring revenues. Our continued focus on driving efficiency and financial discipline across all areas of the company is paying off as our best-in-class operations and services that support our customers. Looking ahead, we expect substantial growth over the midterm, while we prepare the company for a more ambitious long-term expansion, supported by a new generation of products and technologies, always grounded in our culture of safety first and quality always. With that, I would like to move on to the Q&A session.
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[Operator Instructions] The first part of the Q&A session will be exclusively for equities research analysts and investors. The second part of the Q&A will be only for the press. The first question comes from Marcelo Motta with JPMorgan.
2. Question Answer
The question is regarding the strategic partnerships that the company have been announcing. So just wondering if you can provide us an update on the stage of it once in India for the commercial and for the defense and also in the U.S. for defense.
Thank you, Marcelo. Francisco speaking. Good question to start the Q&A today. So yes, we are focused on strategic partnerships to support long-term growth for Embraer. And the 2 main ones are India, where we have been working 2 fronts, the MTA, mid transportation aircraft with India Air Force that we've been working for a few years already and a more recent partnership, this one with Mahindra. So we expect an RFP from the customers still this year.
And the second one is with the Adani Group is to focus on the executive civil aviation to improve connectivity between smaller cities in India. Both opportunities can bring a relevant business and potential growth for Embraer. So again, defense, we expect RFP for this year. And civil aviation, we are still building the case, but we have said that if we get orders still in 2026, can do the rollout of jets by 2028 in India.
In the U.S. -- sorry, thank you, Antonio. In the U.S., we are -- we announced recently the partnership with the Northrop Grumman to develop the boom capability for the C-390 as an option for -- to complement the tanker fleet of U.S. Air Force with our KC-390. This we don't have a time line defined it, but we are working very hard. We recently took the KC for demonstrations in the U.S.
The next question comes from Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley.
This is Gaby on for Kristine. Just a follow-up on the Northrop Grumman partnership. On the partnership around adding BOM capability to the KC-390, could you provide any more detail or color on the structure of the partnership and how responsibilities are being split strategically, how significant is adding a boom for the KC-390s competitiveness, particularly in the context of [indiscernible]? And how should we think about the potential size of the opportunity over time?
Thank you for the questions, Kristine. So at this point, we have signed an MOU with Northrop Grumman and the main focus is the collaboration to enhance the capabilities of the KC-390 Millennium focusing on the integration of an autonomous boom refueling system and agile combat employment solutions. This is designed to meet the future needs of U.S. Air Force and allied nations, not only U.S. We don't have a time frame defined yet, but the main purpose is really to engage this discussion with the U.S. Air Force and have the KC-39 to complement the fleet they have.
We don't see this collaboration, our strategy is based on the premise that it does not compete with the KC-46 or any other strategic tanker, but rather, it's a complementary capability. And our intention, if we get a sizable order, this aircraft will be assembled and produced in the U.S. We don't know the size yet, and we don't have a clear view about time frame, Kristine.
Great. And just a quick follow-up, if I can. Can you just provide a quick update on the supply chain environment across both commercial and Executive Aviation? What are the major constraints you're still seeing? And what areas have you seen improvement in?
Last year, we face some issues in supply chain, but even then we -- as a company, we were able to overcome the issues and deliver the aircraft in the year. This year, we see the supply chain improving, but it's still with a few bottlenecks that we want to be even more proactive this year than we were last year to anticipate all the issues and act with greater effectiveness. And we have started doing that already in January. And yes, we are -- I'd say, we are monitoring the situation, but we are positive that this year is going to be better than last year.
[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Myles Walton with Wolfe Research.
Great. I was hoping you could touch on the margin outlook by segment, maybe just a little bit more color below the surface. Pretty good to have margin expansion. I think service and support probably going against you. And I think I heard that the tariffs are in the guidance, and I would imagine those would be incremental year-on-year given a full year of effect. So maybe just talk to what the margins would be without tariffs? And then also any color of where the uplift is happening within the segments?
Myles, thanks for the question. This is Gui. I think one way to kind of think about the outlook for margins is to account that last year, we paid $54 million in tariffs. And we are carrying over around 2025 from inventory into '26. So if you adjust for that, we are probably looking for something close to 75 to 100 basis over time as both of them unwind. And...
Myles, it's Antonio speaking. Just to complement, I would say, overall picture, we -- if you see what we have reported and the trajectory that we are right now and the huge impact on tariffs was in Executive Aviation, and we delivered the same number we delivered last year and percentage-wise, which means it doesn't matter if you have tariffs or if we have a crisis, we always find a way to compensate.
And I would say, if we take service and Executive Aviation is already on double-digit space on the margin profile, and we are moving towards defense, I would say, it's up to speed also to go also to double digit, I would say, then we keep on our challenge here with Commercial Aviation to move to mid-single digit. I would say, on a consolidated level, we are coming closer to double-digit EBIT margin for this company here.
Okay. Great. And then maybe just one other one on cash flow performance in the fourth quarter. Is this similar to last year where some of the defense orders came through with higher advances? Or were there other attributes driving the performance?
I would say, some effects. We -- for sure, we have -- we delivered more than 90 aircraft in Q4. That's -- and especially in commercial aviation, where the -- when we deliver, get more cash than compared with the others because of the size of the advanced payment and by delivery, we get more money. I would say 2, 3 effects, a lot of deliveries concentrated in Q4.
And luckily, we got some final anticipation and advanced payment from defense customer, if you -- and to be honest, also nice sales campaign in December on Executive Aviation, I would say, some up altogether, we brought this nice development in Q4. You know that it's hard for us to predict. That's why you see the guidance 200 plus again, but it was more or less the same as happened in 2024.
The next question comes from Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs.
Just wanted to follow up on the delivery projections and profile here. I know at commercial, you've talked about getting back above 100. I hear you -- it sounds like supply chain is still a bit of a hurdle. I guess it's a little surprising to see the low end of the guidance pretty much flat. Maybe you could just talk about the hurdles left to get back to 100, when you think you can get there? And then on the executive side, similar question. I know you've talked about potentially expanding capacity to get to 200 there. What's the latest thinking and time frame to get to those types of numbers on the executive side?
Thank you, Noah. Francisco speaking. Yes, I understand your point, but we are very focused this year to be from the mid to the high end of the guidance in terms of commercial aviation deliveries. And I said before, we believe we are better prepared this year with the supply chain to get there, while we are preparing the ground to reach 100 aircraft probably in 2027. We are working in that direction and not confirmed yet for sure, but we are working in that direction to create capacity to be there by '27, maximum 2028.
We believe 2027 will be feasible. Same on the Executive Aviation. We are working in 2 fronts. We are expanding capacity in some bottlenecks of the production. We have been doing that already for a couple of years, while we work on improving efficiency in our production lines. So now we produce one Praetor or one Phenom in half of the time that we used to do back in 2021. So we are moving -- I'd say we're moving fast to reach those targets, production targets in the next years.
And we have orders for that.
And we have order for that with the best news, right? Yes.
Okay. Great. And how does the rate of growth in services that you've embedded in this initial 2026 guidance, how does that compare to what you saw in 2025?
We -- Noah, this is Antonio speaking here. It's nice to talk to you again. We are seeing Service and Support -- Service and Support also in the double-digit space in regards to growth, I would say. And to be honest, it's growing faster than the aircraft division because we have other contracts as well. And that's why we see even a fast speed growth for Service and Support comparing to -- with the aircraft delivery on the other 3 segments. I would say, more than double digit for Service and Support to move forward for the next 2, 3 years.
The next question comes from Lucas Marquiori with BTG Pactual.
I just wanted to follow up on the tariff discussion and actually try to understand what's the situation there. I know there's different sections of investigations and that, I mean, our latest understanding was that this is 0 now. I just wanted to confirm that. And for how long should it remain that way?
Or what's the bureaucratic there that we need to see happening for that to change? And also, if there is any difference in tariffs for Embraer versus its main rivals or its main peers, if there's any kind of a dislocation of competitiveness or actually an improvement in competitiveness because of the 0 tariffs right now. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on that one.
Lucas, thanks for your question. Well, first, yes, we confirm that all Embraer aircraft engines and parts are exempt from the 10% tariffs as of February '24. Yes, we still have some inventory that we paid the tariff in U.S. inventory, but we'll deal with that during the year, and this is already included in our projections. Of course, we welcome the level playing field in our industry since Embraer was the only manufacturer to pay tariffs on aircraft exports before.
And this outcome will benefit our U.S. customers. So airlines, they can renew -- they can keep their plan to renew their fleet of jets, and we'll keep buying a lot of U.S. parts because more than 40% of our aircraft has a U.S. content. So I think the decision was very positive and it will benefit not only Embraer, but U.S. customers and suppliers as well. What was the -- how long this will take, this question?
232, 301.
We expect this to be a long-term decision. And about the sections, 232, 301, we are now monitoring the topics very closely and while we keep focus on our regular business. But so far, we don't expect any big changes, but this geopolitical situation is a little volatile. But let's see, we are now very optimistic that this will remain, and we will continue to reinforce our position and the aerospace industry position in the U.S. as well.
And Lucas, Antonio speaking here. We did -- we ran an assessment and we came to a conclusion. It's too early to bet to stay or is going to revert in another section here. That's why when you see our guidance profile, as of today, we see more upside than downside because we are not paying tariffs. But we have to wait because we don't want to -- it could be very complicated and volatile as we are seeing the word every single day.
The next question comes from Alberto Valerio with UBS.
I would like to talk about the orders for the year. What should we expect? We should expect 1x book? Or do you think that it could be even more, but the guidance of commercial and executive is still having some supply issues on it included?
Alberto, Antonio speaking. You asked about our expectation for new sales company or just...
I didn't get your question.
Exactly, exactly. So what should we expect in terms of book-to-bill for the year, if it will be one time or if we can expect a little bit more than the guidance, for instance, [indiscernible] on the commercial jets because you have still some supply issues for the year?
Well, first of all, Alberto, I mean, we had stellar year last year in terms of sales of E2, right, 157 new sales plus 140 options. This brings a lot of confidence in the platform for the future, and we keep selling the E1s as well. For this year, as I said before, we are preparing to increase our production output for E-Jets for the next years.
So we expect this year -- we are working in various sales campaign, and we expect the book-to-bill again above 1:1 for this year in terms of sales. And I mean, supply chain, as I said before, we are working now this year, again, very, very close to the supply, especially the pacers in order to mitigate the issues, delivery this year, the guidance, we expect from mid to high end of the guidance and prepare the company to increase the production in the following years for E-Jets.
The next question comes from Andre Mazini with Citi.
So 2 questions. The first one around defense and geopolitics, of course, that's a hot topic. So will it make sense to accelerate defense applications for Eve? Would that increase LOIs, predelivery payments and even get maybe to breakeven faster? I know Eve have their own earnings call, but I think it's pretty important for Embraer as well. So I wanted to hear your thoughts on that. This is the first one.
The second one about the buyback program just announced. If you can read it, the buyback program as meaning that over the next 12 months, right, the duration of the program, you prefer to allocate capital in Embraer stock rather than going for a large new programs such as a new airframe and et cetera? And more generally, how do you think about the trade-offs of buyback, plowing money back into the company and new development -- plowing money back into buybacks, right, or new developments on aircraft, airframes and whatnot?
Thanks, Andre. I answer number one, and then Antonio and Gui will answer number two. So Eve now, we are very focused on the certification process of the Eve, the product we have, the EV 100. And I know they are discussing all the opportunities. But at this point of time, they are really focused on the certification of the program until the end of 2027. I think for more questions, I recommend you to go to the Eve presentation, they will give you more details.
And Antonio speaking. In regards to the buyback, it's quite simple. We -- if you see the material fact issue, we are considering to replace the equity swap we have in the market. Basically, what we are doing are just changing, reducing the active swap into share from the treasury in order to hedge our long-term incentive program. It's going to be much more faster than 12 months, probably going to take 1 or 2 days to be concluded.
That's more or less -- we are not increasing the shares, just changing from active swap to a share buyback. And we do not -- today, the company does not do this buyback in regards to total shareholder remuneration just to hedge the long-term incentive plan.
And also just to complement, the company continues to invest heavily on the businesses that we have the higher ROIC, and that includes Executive Aviation and services.
The next question comes from Luiza Mussi with Safra.
Just a follow-up question because we saw some media reports yesterday indicating that India actually has opened a bid for like 60 units from military aircraft and the total contract value will be $11 billion. I mean, could you share like your perspectives on this deal in terms of how you expect the competitive dynamics to evolve? And how could you differentiate yourself like from the other competitors?
Luiza, thanks for the question, Francisco speaking. We are very excited about this opportunity because we believe we have the best value proposition for India with our product, the [ KC-390 ]. It is very competitive, very modern, exactly for that segment. And we have also been working with Mahindra with a lot of activities to be compliant with Made In India expectations from them.
So again, we are very excited and working very hard to win that business. That will be a very important step for the KC program. So yes, this is -- the original plan was from India is to buy from 40 to 80 aircraft. So 60 is the midpoint. And yes, this will generate billions of dollars in terms of revenue opportunity.
The next question comes from Lucas Laghi with XP Investments.
Two quick follow-ups. First one on the Services division. I mean, margin performance is very strong. Just trying to understand what has been the main drivers this quarter. I mean you mentioned materials, for example. Just trying to understand if this -- I mean, should you continue to work with 20-ish percent EBIT margin going forward? I mean is this assumption that we should guide for -- in the upcoming years?
And a follow-up on the guidance for 2026 regarding -- still regarding the margin. But I mean, we estimate around $90 million of EBIT impact considering a 10% tariff, which you mentioned that you included as an assumption for your guidance. So just to understand if that is the level of impact that we could consider as an upside given that you are -- I mean, merged in a current 0% tariff environment. So just to understand the size of the upside potential regarding EBIT for this year in this tariff topic.
Lucas, this is Antonio speaking. Thanks for the nice question. To be honest, I would love to take the 20% margin for Q4 for Service division and move forward, but not now. What's happened in Q4, we have a lot of bad guys throughout the year and then has been compensated in Q4 also with compensation for suppliers, this and this. That's why we see this nice 20% margin in Q4.
For sure, we are not happy with 15%. We are moving towards a bigger number, but I would say, for your assumption here, 15%, 16% is okay to move forward. But we do see improvement, but not in the pace that we should assume already for 2026. And for the tariffs, I would ask Gui.
So I think for 2025, we paid $54 million. And as I mentioned, we have about $25 million in inventory. So you can use that $80 million as a good proxy. But we're going to unwind that in '26 and in '27, right, because the inventory impact will hit us in '26 and will be only unwound in '27. So I would expect 2/3 of the benefits to come in this year if the status quo is maintained for the tariff, and we hope it does, with the balance 1/3 being upside for '27.
Our next question comes from the chat and is from Andre Ferreira with Bradesco BBI. Congratulations on the results. The guidance assumes tariffs. So to confirm, if it is exempt, is there upside to the margin numbers? Would that translate in any way to the delivery guidance as well?
Andre, thanks for the question. I think we just answered that with Lucas in the previous question. So let's move on to the next, please.
The next question is also from the chat with -- it's from Kristine Liwag. Following up on the supply chain question, there's a public dispute between Airbus and Pratt about engine deliveries. For your commercial delivery outlook in 2026, how much conservatism is built into your assumption? And is Pratt able to support?
Thanks for the question. Yes, I think as I said before, we have some bases that we are working on very closely in 2026. But I mean, we have been working in a very collaborative way with our suppliers, I mean, trying to help each other. And again, we are very confident that we will deliver the aircraft we are planning for the year, and we don't have any big issues with Pratt this year. They are doing that.
Thank you very much. This concludes the question-and-answer session for equity research analysts and investors. Now we will start the Q&A session dedicated to the press. First, we will answer questions in English and then we will answer questions in Portuguese. We will also answer questions sent via the platform chat. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Pablo Diaz.
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
Just wondering about the joint venture with Adani in India and the new line -- production line for the E175. Wondering if that production line is going to be focused on the E1 and if there is any possibility for that line to later migrate to E2 providing the certification process is retaken.
Pablo, thanks for the question. At this point of time, we have -- we don't have a joint venture yet. We have signed an MOU with Adani to explore the opportunities in this civil aviation. And at this point of time, focus on the E175 E1.
The next question comes from Curt Epstein with Aviation International News.
I was wondering if you could detail the impact on your Executive Aviation division by the tariffs over the past year.
I think the easy way to think is that out of the $54 million that we paid in '25, about 80%, 85% of that was in our Executive Aviation division.
For 9 months.
Yes.
Starting April onwards. And for the whole year, should be something like $60 million to $70 million, but today, you are back to 0, Curt.
This concludes the question-and-answer session in English for the press [Operator Instructions] [Interpreted] Our first question is from the chat by Nelson [ Doring ]. We'll see the first Gripen being delivered in the 25th of March in Gaviao Peixoto. Congratulations, Bosco and the defense staff. Is Embraer going to be a part of the Gripen agreement in Colombia and other potential contracts?
[Interpreted] Thank you for your question. No, we haven't established any contracts. However, we do have a good collaboration with Saab. We are working with them to cooperate with them and if possible, to bring the assembly of these aircraft to Gaviao Peixoto because we have installed capacity, it would be good for us and for them, but we don't have any subcontracts that we have entered into yet.
[Interpreted] We have no audio from Mr. [ Nascimento ]. So our next question, again from Nelson [ Doring ] also came through the chat. How does Embraer see the landscape for raw material supply as aluminum and titanium as critical elements for engines and avionics, both for military and civil aviation.
[Interpreted] Nelson, thank you again for your question. 2026, in our calculation should be better in terms of supply when compared to 2025. There will still be some difficulties in terms of parts, but raw material is not one of the difficulties. I think as for raw materials, we are quite comfortable with the current inventory we have. And there is another item that we are monitoring quite closely to ensure not only the year's total production, but a better production of aircraft production throughout the year.
So again, we are working very closely with suppliers since the beginning of the year, and we are quite positive and comfortable when it comes to aircraft delivery for 2026. So we'll try again.
[Interpreted] Next question from Mr. Nascimento for Vale Trezentos e Sessenta News.
[Interpreted] I do apologize for my mistake. It was something related to my own equipment. I have 3 basic questions, Francisco. The first question is whether Embraer in the period where tariffs were implemented, I know that you -- you had a meeting with the representatives of the Brazilian Foreign Relations Office in New York in an attempt to align the issue of tariffs. So this is question number one. If you want, I can ask the 2 other questions later on.
[Interpreted] When in fact, Embraer did not take direct part in that event. I mean, we just did a follow-up, but we were not there at the time. What we did was try to facilitate the event, but we didn't have any direct participation.
[Interpreted] And my second question is about the recent decision by the U.S. when the President was questioned by the courts that said that he couldn't charge the tariffs, that the tariffs were unconstitutional. Do you think that Embraer could try to collect the tariffs that were charged unduly? And how much more of the tariffs were charged?
[Interpreted] In terms of recovering the money paid in tariffs, we are monitoring the situation, trying to understand what our peers will do and what kind of outcome they will get from there. So then we will decide what to do. I mean, in terms of what has been paid, we already paid $80 million.
[Interpreted] Okay. So finally, Francisco, we see the war escalating in the world and countries trying to strengthen their defense. I mean -- and Embraer with KC and Super Tucano should fit into that scope. My question is whether Embraer is developing or thinking about developing new equipment for the defense side to probably serve some worldwide need.
[Interpreted] [indiscernible], right now, our focus is in selling our equipment. KC is a new product that was launched in 2019. And also taking this opportunity with -- I mean, sales of Super Tucano and also some of our equipment from Atech, one of our subsidiaries. But right now, there is nothing being developed at the moment.
[Interpreted] Our next question comes from the chat from Chandu Alves from Ovale. Do we know the deadlines of the RFP for 60 jets for India? How long is this process going to take? When are we going to get an answer? And who is competing for this?
[Interpreted] Right. First question. We're keeping an eye on this, but we can't control their deadlines. Of course, the clients from India are going to set their deadlines. We expect to see an RFP this year a request for proposals. This is an important step for aircraft selling because competitors will be showing their RFPs and then they will have some time to go over them. Of course, right now, we have no visibility over that. And our competitors are Lockheed Martin from the U.S. with the 630 hectare and Airbus in Europe with A400.
Our next question is from Leda Alvim, Bloomberg News.
[Interpreted] Could you please confirm the values that we have in paid tariffs for now? If you could break it down by segment, that would be useful.
[Interpreted] Leda, this is Antonio. In total, we already paid $80 million. 85% of that is for Executive Aviation and the rest of it is for service and support. So $80 million so far is everything we've paid since April 2025. And since February '24, we went back to 0, but we still don't know what's going to happen from now on.
Next question also from the chat from Paulo Ricardo Martins with Folha de Sao Paulo.
[Interpreted] How can the war in Iran impact Embraer? Could it jeopardize the delivery of aircraft for the Middle East?
[Interpreted] Ricardo, thank you for your question. Ricardo, thank you for your question. At the moment, we are just monitoring the situation very closely. Our main focus and #1 focus is with the people we have in the region because they are experiencing the situation day-to-day. We are they're trying to cater to their needs and the expectations of the families. We are also taking care of our suppliers, both direct and indirect in the region.
And so far, we haven't seen any critical issue that could compromise our deliveries. And we are not seeing any impacts in deliveries or even short-term sales. So the focus now at the moment is just to monitor the situation so as to help us take mitigating actions in due time so that we can deliver whatever we are launching for this year.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. That concludes the Q&A session of today's conference call. And this concludes Embraer's conference call. Thank you for joining us, and have a very good day.
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📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz Q4: Fast $3,0 Mrd. (+15% YoY); Jahr: $7,6 Mrd. (+18%).
- Adjusted EBITDA: $298 Mio. (11,3% Q4); Jahr: $889 Mio. (11,7%).
- Adjusted EBIT: $231 Mio. (8,7% Q4); Jahr: $657 Mio. (adjustiert).
- Lieferungen: 91 Flugzeuge in Q4 (32 Commercial, 53 Executive, 6 Defense; +21% Q4).
- Backlog: $31,6 Mrd. (+20%); ~ $20 Mrd. zusätzliche Optionen.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- E2-Position: Starkes E2-Verkaufsmomentum weltweit; Plattform gilt als Benchmark im kleinen Single-Aisle‑Segment.
- Partnerschaften: Strategische Kooperationen in Indien (Mahindra/Adani) und USA (Northrop Grumman) zur Markterschließung und KC-390‑Tankeroption (Boom‑Integration).
- Produktivität: Maßnahmen in Produktion, Lieferanten‑Collaboration, Digitalisierung und KI sollen Produktionsstabilität und Margen verbessern.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Operationen 2026: Commercial 80–85 Flugzeuge; Executive 160–170.
- Finanzen 2026: Umsatz $8,2–8,5 Mrd. (Mid ≈ +10%); EBIT‑Marge 8,7–9,3% (Mid ≈ $750 Mio.); adjust. Free Cash Flow ≥ $200 Mio.
- Risikohinweis: Guidance konservativ wegen US‑Importzöllen/Policy‑Unsicherheit; Quartals‑Updates vorgesehen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Partnerschaften: Nachfrage zu Zeitplan und Umfang von Mahindra/Adani (Indien) und MOU mit Northrop; Management nennt RFP‑Erwartung 2026, Fertigung in Indien bei Aufträgen möglich.
- Zölle: Diskussion über Tarife: Q4‑Belastung $27 Mio.; 2025 ~ $54 Mio. gezahlt; Gesamtproxy ~ $80 Mio. inkl. Inventar; mögliche Erholung, wenn Status quo bleibt.
- Lieferprofil & Margen: Supply‑Chain‑Verbesserung, Ziel 100 Commercial‑Jets 2027/28; Service‑Margins stark in Q4 (≈20%) aber Management erwartet eher 15–16% nachhaltig.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starke Nachfrage, Rekord‑Backlog und klare Produktions‑Initiativen stützen Wachstum und Margenverbesserung. Kurzfristig belasten Zölle und Einmalkosten; 2026‑Guidance bietet moderates Upside, sofern Zolllage stabil bleibt. Aktie profitiert von sichtbarer Umsatz‑ und FCF‑Dynamik, Risiko bleibt execution und geopolitische Policy‑Volatilität.
Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for standing by. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. This conference call will be conducted in English, but please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language]
My name is Gui Paiva, and I'm the Head of Investor Relations, M&A and Venture Capital for Embraer. I want to welcome you to our third quarter earnings conference call. The numbers in this presentation contain non-GAAP financial information to help investors reconcile Eve's financial information in GAAP standards to Embraer's IFRS. We remind you, Eve's results will be discussed at the company's conference call. It is important to mention that all numbers are presented in U.S. dollars as it is our functional currency.
This conference call may include statements about future events based on Embraer expectations and financial market trends. Such statements are subject to uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in this conference call. Except in accordance with applicable rules, the company assumes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. For detailed financial information, the company encourages reviewing publications filed by the company with the Brazilian [Foreign Language] or CVM. [Operator Instructions]
Participants on today's conference call are Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO of Embraer; Antonio Carlos Garcia, Chief Financial Officer; Pau Cesar Souza, Corporate Communications Manager; and myself. This conference call will have 3 parts. In the first part, top management will present the company's Q3 results. In the second part, we will host a Q&A session only for investors. And last but definitely not least, in the third part, we will host a dedicated Q&A session only for the press.
It is my pleasure to now turn the conference call to our President and CEO, Francisco Gomes Neto. Please go ahead, Francisco.
Thank you, Gui, and good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here with you to share Embraer's third quarter 2025 results. Embraer is currently experiencing a highly positive phase, a strong indication that our strategy driven by efficiency and innovation is delivering solid results and effectively supporting our sustainable growth.
In Commercial Aviation, highlights include new orders for Avelo for 50 E195-E2s plus 50 options and LATAM for 24 E195-E2s plus 50 options. These achievements have increased the division's backlog to $15.2 billion with an impressive 2.7:1 book-to-bill ratio. In Executive Aviation, we achieved an all-time high for third quarter revenues, reaching approximately $580 million. We also celebrated a historic milestone, the delivery of our 2,000th business jets, marking a record for year-to-date deliveries. Our backlog in Executive Aviation now stands at $7.3 billion, supported by a robust 2.4:1 book-to-bill ratio, reflecting continued strong demand for our aircraft.
In Defense & Security, we continue to reinforce our global presence. Portugal confirmed the purchase of its sixth KC-390, including additional 10 new options to support future European acquisitions. We also signed new agreements for the A-29 Super Tucano with Panama and Sierra Nevada in the U.S., reinforcing the aircraft's relevance and versatility. The division closed the quarter with a $3.9 billion backlog and 1.3:1 book-to-bill ratio.
Our Services & Support business maintained its accelerated growth path with expanding capabilities. We signed a new maintenance agreement with CommuteAir and launched Starlink connectivity solutions for Praetor and Legacy operators. As a result, the business unit finished the quarter with a 4.9 billion backlog and 1.8:1 book-to-bill ratio.
At Embraer, continuous improvement is more than a process. It is a mindset. We successfully completed more than 800 Kaizen projects over the past 12 months. And now by combining our lean culture with AI tools, we are moving forward more rapidly in achieving productivity gains. Our production level initiatives and the implementation of our perfect station concept led to a 16% increase in aircraft deliveries this year. From 2026 onwards, we expect even greater production stability in all product lines. The implementation of our zero-defect methodology reducing our cost of poor quality by 12%.
Another initiative that has been delivering significant results is the production lead time reduction. We have achieved important improvements such as reducing the production time of Praetor's by 40%, KC-390 by 33% and E-Jets by 27% compared to 2021 levels, more production with lower work in progress.
We made significant progress with new and expanded facilities at key locations in the United States and Brazil, including new hangars, painting booth and final assembly areas. These investments are designed to enable higher production volumes and faster deliveries, fully aligned with our growth strategy. At the same time, we are transforming our supply chain through supply chain management 2.0, a comprehensive initiative that integrates digital technologies, proactive risk management and the deployment of artificial intelligence for smarter planning and forecasting. These efforts have already started to pay off. Aircraft deliveries increased by 16% and average shortage decreased by 25% compared to last year.
I will now move on to operational results by segment. All figures are based on year-on-year comparisons. In Commercial Aviation, revenues increased a significant 31% because of better product mix and higher volumes and prices. Adjusted EBIT margin improved from minus 4.8% to plus 1.3%, supported by operating leverage and lower other operating expenses.
In Executive Aviation, revenues increased 4%, helped by higher prices. Adjusted EBIT margin decreased 4.2 percentage points because of product mix, U.S. important tariffs, 2.6 percentage points and higher costs.
Moving to Defense & Security. Revenues grew 27% because of higher KC-390 volumes and a one-off positive contract-related adjustment. Adjusted EBIT margin improved from 7.2% to 12.9% as a consequence of operating leverage and client mix.
In Service and Support, revenues rose 16%, driven by higher volumes and the ramp-up of the OGMA GTF engine shop. Adjusted EBIT margin decreased 5 percentage points because of services and materials delays.
Before I conclude, I'd like to share a brief update on Eve's steady progress. The first full-scale engineering prototype test flight is planned for late 2025, early 2026.
With that, I will now hand it over to Antonio to walk us through the key financial highlights of the quarter.
Thank you, Francisco. Good morning, and good afternoon to everyone. Turning to the quarter. All my comments will be based on year-over-year comparisons unless noted. But before we dive into our financial results for the third quarter of 2025, I'd like to start reiterating our 2025 guidance. We expect to deliver between 77 and 85 aircraft in Commercial Aviation and 145 and 155 in Executive Aviation from an operational point of view. Meanwhile, we expect to achieve between $7 billion and $7.5 billion in revenues, 7.5% and 8.3% in adjusted EBIT margin and more than $200 million in adjusted free cash flow from a financial perspective. This forecast may appear conservative at the first glance, but they reflect the supply chain risks we still face in Q4.
Having said that, I'd like to reinforce our estimates reflects our confidence in our operational progress and the resilience of our business model. We remain comfortable with our outlook and feel confident we are on track to meet our full year guidance. That said, let's take a look at our financial results for the quarter.
In Slide 12, deliveries -- Embraer delivered 62 aircraft in the third quarter '25. 20 commercial jets and 41 executive jets and 1 KC-390 military plan. This represents a 5% increase compared to the same period last year, with Commercial Aviation deliveries up 25% year-over-year and Executive Aviation is stable. More importantly, for the first 9 months, we have delivered 46 commercial jets, which is 57% of the midpoint of our guidance and 2 percentage points above our 5 years average for the period. In Executive Aviation, we have delivered 102 executive jets or 68% of the midpoint of our guidance and 11 solid percentage points higher than the 57% average from the past 5 years, which demonstrates our strong execution.
In Slide 13, backlog and revenue. Our company-wide backlog reached $31.3 billion during the quarter, up a significant 38% and higher than our previous historical record. Looking at each division, Executive Aviation and Service & Support led the pack with their backlogs up 65% and 40%, respectively, followed by Commercial Aviation up 37% and Defense & Security up 8%. I'd like to highlight the significant volumes of purchase options currently held by our customers, which total roughly $20 billion. These are not firming orders yet, but they provide substantial upside potential for our backlog in the next few years, which could increase towards $50 billion.
Moving to revenues. Our top line was close to $2 billion for an increase of 18%. For a business perspective, the breakdown appears well balanced. Commercial and Executive Aviation each contributed circa of 30%, followed by Service and Support with 25% and Defense & Security with 14%.
Moving to the next slide. We generated $236 million in adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter '25 with an 11.8% margin. Now adjusted EBIT for the quarter was $172 million with an 8.6% margin. This compared to $147 million or 8.7% margin in the third quarter '24, if we exclude the onetime impact of the Boeing agreement, which boosted the adjusted margin by approximately 900 basis points. For the first 9 months of the year, the adjusted EBIT margin stands at 8.6%, a significant improvement of the 2.9% average over the last past 5 years. However, it's important to mention we still expect a relevant impact from U.S. import tariffs, which should weigh on our Q4 margin, along with additional costs related to our return to office initiative.
Let's move now to the next slide. Embraer generated $300 million in adjusted free cash flow in third quarter '25. Mainly supported by operating activities, $224 million in EBITDA and lower accounts receivable. Looking now at our investment, excluding Eve, we allocated a total of $99 million during the quarter, slightly lower than last year. The figures includes $39 million in CapEx, $37 million in addition to intangibles, $10 million in the pool program to support new contracts and $13 million in research. Year-to-date, research investments have reached $33 million or 12% of the $284 million in total investment. These resources are focused on supporting sustainable growth and innovation.
Slide 16, net income. Let me walk you through the financial bridge from our reported EBIT to both reported and adjusted net income. We started with the quarter with almost $160 million in EBIT. After accounting for $53 million in net financial expenses, $22 million tax credit and $12 million in minority interest, we arrived at $117 million in reported net income, then adjusting for extraordinary items such as $30 million in deferred taxes and $32 million from Eve's results, we get to $54 million in adjusted net income.
We closed the quarter with an adjusted margin of 2.7%, a sharp decline from 13.1% last year. I'd like to emphasize this $167 million reduction was mainly driven by the onetime positive impact of $150 million from Boeing agreement recorded last year as well as less favorable net financial results.
Looking at the evolution of earnings per share, we have seen solid sequential improvement over the past few years. Our EPS totaled $1.7 per ADS over the past 12 months or substantially higher than negative $0.20 reported in 2021. Let's move to the next slide.
First of all, I'd like to start this slide talking about our liquidity position. Embraer's stand-alone net debt position decreased by $646 million to only $439 million in the third quarter of '25 as the company continued to implement its debt liability strategy and reduce its financial gearing. We ended the quarter with a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of only 0.5x, excluding Eve for a significant improvement from 1.3x a year earlier. It is important to note this, the increase in leverage compared to year-end 2024 is temporary because of the business seasonality. We do expect to finish the year in a net cash position. Our liability management strategy remains focused on extending debt duration and reduce our cost of debt. The average loan maturity is now 5.9 years with 96% of our debt in long-term contracts.
To conclude, I'd like to remind you, we announced a new liability management initiative in third quarter '25, which will be fully concluded in November. The company issued $1 billion long 12 years bond at 5.4% coupon, and we will repurchase a total of $809 million from 2028 and 2030 bonds. We will share an updated debt maturity profile and average cost of debt with our full year financials.
Slide 18, shareholder remuneration. Before I finish my presentation, I'd like to take a moment to thank our shareholders for their trust and highlight recent developments in our shareholder remuneration initiatives. First, I want to share an exciting milestones. Yesterday, we officially update our ticker symbol to EMBJ, which means Embraer jets to better reflect the company's current strategy and vision for the future. Second, Embraer declared nearly BRL 210 million in interest on equity over the past 2 quarters, which translates into BRL 0.28 per share for a 0.35% dividend yield. Just a quick reminder, this amount may be complemented by a top-up dividend if needed to meet the minimum 25% net income distribution required by Brazilian corporate law. The full amount will be paid in a single installment after our 2026 Annual Shareholders Meeting.
With that, I will hand it back to Francisco for his final remarks. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Antonio. I'd like to take a moment to reflect on our recent key achievements and share a few final thoughts. In Commercial Aviation, strong E1 sales and the continued consolidation of the E2 platform marked our best sales year. Executive Aviation continues to see robust demand across its entire portfolio, reflecting the strength of our products and customer relationships. In Defense & Security, the KC-390 is gaining traction in key global campaigns, including India and NATO, with Sweden's recent order reinforcing its growing international relevance. Meanwhile, Services & Support continues to expand, highlighted by the groundbreaking of a new MRO facility in the U.S., further strengthening our global footprint.
Looking forward, we expect substantial midterm growth while strategically investing in new technologies to prepare the company for a more ambitious and long-term expansion, always grounded in our culture of safety first and quality always.
With that, I would like to move on to the Q&A session.
We remind you again, this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. We also highlight this conference call is being conducted in English with translation to Portuguese. Please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language]
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley.
2. Question Answer
So first, I mean, Antonio, the balance sheet and the financial strength of the company is pretty remarkable, especially with what we saw in 2020 with COVID and all the changes. With the net cash position slated for the company by year-end, I was wondering how you guys think about future return to shareholders, especially if you're not going to build another big R&D cycle, would you consider share buybacks or increasing dividends? How do we think about returns to shareholders?
Thanks, Kristine, for the great question. I was expecting this already. I would say we -- to be honest, we start to repay or resume dividends this end of last year. Now we -- I would say, we are very happy that we are able to do it, point one. Point two, we are evaluating our capital structure is a valid question we are raising right now. We do not have today a firm opinion on how to move forward. I do not see additional dividends at this point in time. We are already paying 25% of the net income of the year, which is already for a heavy intensive business, already a lot. I would say, we do not have a response right now, but we are evaluating further move on this direction in order, for example, buyback is something that's on the table right now to be discussed. But we do not have an answer right now. But we are really taking -- paying attention to this point as well.
Great. And if I could do a follow-up. A few weeks ago, American Airlines announced that they're retrofitting their E-Jets fleet. And to do the overhead bin, I think you guys are doing the work on that. But I was wondering, since they want to do a full interior refresh, is there an expansion of work scope that you can now address, especially as you've increased your services offering? Are you doing the complete retrofit for American? Or are you only doing portions of it? And how do we think about if other airlines in the U.S. decide to also retrofit their fleet with your more expanded services capability, how do you think about that market? And could you capture more of that?
Francisco speaking, Kristine, thanks for the question. And well, this is part of our initiative to improve the E175-E1. I mean this first movement to was with the interior and this includes not only the bins, but includes seats, new seats, Recaro seats. This includes the lightning, a new modern lightning and also available a better connectivity for the aircraft. So I mean, yes, we have a program with American Airlines, but this -- I would say, this kit is available for other customers, and we can do it if they want at our new MRO in Dallas.
The next question comes from Marcelo Motta with JPMorgan.
My question is regarding the EBIT margin on the Executive segment. I mean you commented about the impact of product mix and higher costs. So just wondering when we look at the component of higher cost, if you think this is more structural, it's more like a one-off on this quarter? And then if you could explain also what helped the Defense EBIT margin, that would be great as well.
Marcelo, this is Gui. Thanks for the question. In Executive Aviation, we have seen like in other business, cost inflation. That's something that has been a trend in the industry for the past few years. And we would expect that to continue. We have been obviously being very resilient in protecting our margins in the business, but we obviously will see some fluctuations on a quarter-to-quarter basis. Regarding Defense, there was an impact on higher KC volumes and just the client mix where we had a higher participation of foreign clients.
And Marcelo, just to complement you in regards to Executive Aviation, please take into account that 1 year ago, we didn't have tariffs. And they have impact in the Executive Aviation margins also the tariffs more is eating up some 2%, 2.5% of our margin in a comparable basis. I would say that explains the deviation as well.
The next question comes from Lucas Marquiori with BTG Pactual.
My question is just on the one-offs on the margin as well, especially on Commercial Aviation, just trying to understand what are these tax credits that you guys mentioned you guys had on this Q, I mean, particularly to what they relate to? And how should we think about, I mean, their recurrency going forward? And also on the Defense as well, what exactly is this one-off contract-related adjustment? Is this a change in the contract of a foreign client that helped on the margin? I mean just trying to kind of clear that out.
Lucas, Gui here. Thanks for the question again. So in Commercial Aviation, the tax credits are related to some import parts that we did a study and we're able to kind of claim these credits, okay? And on Defense, we reassigned a plane in the production to a different client that was already let's call it, halfway in its production. So given that it is a percentage of completion, we recalculate the revenues and the profitability of the contract given that it was already halfway through.
The next question comes from André Mazini with Citi.
So my question is on the state of the Pratt GTF engines. So the competitor A220 product is having some major issues with the Pratt. We read in a piece of news saying that 17% of the A220 fleet is grounded because of the Pratt GTF. We understand the engines are not the same, right? The A220 uses the PW1500, while the E2 PW1900. But the question is if the PW1900 is indeed having no issues whatsoever. So that's the first one.
And the second one, if I may, a totally different topic. This November, of course, the world is looking to Brazil for the COP and the Amazon. So I wanted to ask about an old program, the SIVAM program, the Amazon surveillance system that you guys participated, call it, 25 years ago. The planes from that program were Embraer's 145s. So if there's any renewal program for -- or plan for those planes and the status of the Amazon surveillance systems and Embraer's participation overall?
Andre, Francisco speaking. Thanks for your question. So first, start with the E2 GTF. I mean, the E2, I mean, used the third generation of the PW1900G engine, which has incorporated several upgrades and improvements. And on top, the E2 is a lighter, much lighter aircraft compared to the others. So which makes -- which means less demand on the engines. So that's why the E2 has suffered much less than the competition. And now I mean, the engines are getting better and better with new improvements being implemented. So we expect much better performance and durability of the engines going forward for the E2s, which is a good news for the airlines.
About this Amazon program, I mean we don't have any project at this point of time with this project. I mean we are working with the Brazilian force in some projects, but not this one as far as I know.
The next question comes from Andre Ferreira with Bradesco BBI.
I have two here. So first one, going back to the tax credits in Commercial Aviation. We saw BRL 56 million in the quarter, looking at the ITR. So I just wanted to make sure if that is all in the Commercial Aviation segment, which would mean that the tax credits were more or less 1.5% in terms of EBIT -- positive impact on EBIT margin. And also a second point about the tariffs. So the total impact, so adding Executive Aviation and Service was, if I'm correct, $17 million, right? Which seems lower than initial expectations, but there could be some help from inventories here. So you expect a higher impact in the fourth quarter? Or I mean, not just from seasonality, but also even on a more comparable basis. That's it from my side.
Thanks for the question. This is Gui here. In terms of the tax credits, it's going to be low single-digit value. So it's less than the BRL 56 million that you alluded to. And in terms of -- what's the second question, sorry, on the tariffs. The tariffs in the quarter were $17 million and a total of $27 million year-to-date. We originally mentioned after Q1 results that we expect it to be around $62 million to $65 million for the full year. So that would imply that we still have about $35 million, $38 million to go, but the company has been working hard to reduce its exposure and we hope that we can finish the year under the original amount that we mentioned. And it was -- yes, the inventory cycle has played a role so far.
Just to complement, this one-off is the second question you are getting about the same issue is a normal business as usual. We have temporary importation -- when we have changes in the supply chain here, we get the credit. There's nothing that is something special. It's just part of the daily life here. Just that you guys don't believe is something extraordinary.
The next question comes from Gabriel Rezende with Itaú BBA.
I would like to make -- just to touch on the company's guidance, especially on the profitability side. Just wondering how relevant could be the supply chain risks for the fourth quarter as well as the impact from U.S. tariffs that made the company choose to not revise its guidance upwards, especially considering that you have already delivered in the year-to-date figure, this very high EBIT margin, which is already above what you're expecting for the full year. So just trying to understand which one of these effects to be more relevant, either the potential delays on deliveries due to supply chain issues or the U.S. tariffs impact for the fourth quarter?
Gabriel, I will answer half of the question, and then Antonio will complement the answer. Well, regarding the supply chain, I mean, the risk for the supply chain in 2025, I mean, is over. I mean we have all the parts we need to assemble the aircraft. Now it's up to us to assemble the aircraft, but we have a concentration of aircraft to be delivered in the next 2 months. That's why we decided to keep the guidance as it is. Again, no risk of with supply chain at this point of time. Now we are working hard to make sure we have a better 2026 in terms of production stability, production level than it was in 2025. About the EBIT, Antonio, do you want to comment?
Just to complement what Francisco is saying, assuming that we will be able to get the aircraft out of the door, I would say we look more from the high end than for the lower end, I would say. As I mentioned in my first comments, we calculated the risk. You could take 0.3% EBIT margin comparing with the 8.6% we have in the last 9 months. If everything goes well, I would say there's nothing that goes against that we may be able to even surpass the high end of the margin. But we need to deliver. There's a lot of aircraft to be delivered to end of December just because of it. And please do not forget our guidance was not contemplated the tariffs. It seems to be conservative, but we were able to offset the guidance. We are still there. And more or less, I would say, looking for the high end and the lower end, I would say, is a remarkable achievement for our company here.
The next question comes from Lucas Laghi with XP Investments.
I would like to focus on the Services division. I mean we have been seeing this increasing profile of agnostic revenues and acceleration of GTF engines contracts on OGMA. I guess you guys were very clear during the Investor Day on the potential for this top line pocket that you guys are aiming. But could you please elaborate on the profitability profile of this division going forward? I mean should the margins be lower or higher considering this shift in top line new profile towards this agnostic revenues? Just getting to know, I mean, a bit more about profitability given this new profile of revenues?
And thinking specifically on the third quarter, I mean, we saw this decline on EBIT margin on Services. We know it's hard to -- I mean, to get all the factors on a quarter-on-quarter basis. But was this related to this different revenue stream, I mean, that you're seeing with this increase in revenues from other sources? Or was it a matter of conjunctural factors as you highlighted in the release, just to clarify on profitability here as well.
Lucas, thanks for the question, Antonio speaking here. I'm going to answer the Q3, and then Francisco is going to complement the long-term view for the margin. What has happened on the Service, we have some bad guys throughout the year, especially also in Q3, means if you delay parts to the customer having to pay -- giving credit or paid peanuts, and then we get the, I would say, liquidate damage from suppliers in Q4. It's just, in my opinion, a time lapse from bad guys to good guys, I would say, we should be fine with the normally 14%, 15% EBIT margin for Services for this year, I would say, around 15%. It's just, I would say, a timing window here between Q3 and Q4.
And for the future, Lucas, we -- the Services and Support is one of our most important growth drivers in the organization. That's why we have been investing a lot I mean, last year, we duplicated our structure to support our business jet in the U.S. This means more service at Embraer MROs, more revenues, more profit. And now we are doing the same with commercial jets with this project in Dallas, Texas. So again, we expect an important growth in terms of revenues and profitability in the next 5 years from our Services and Support division.
The next question comes from Alberto Valerio with UBS.
I focus on the bottom line, just to see some recurring and nonrecurring items going forward. Financial expenses come a little bit above what we were expecting. Wondering whether the offer of EV is inside that I saw on the cash flows, that's $12.6 million. And another one is about the noncontrolling interest, also come a little bit higher than we were expecting. Just to know the recurring of this $12.2 million on noncontrolled interest.
Alberto, this is Antonio speaking here. For the net financial result, it's very simple. When the share price goes up, you have mark-to-market obligation to our long-term incentive, then we have a hit in the net financial results because the interest we are paying and the interest we are earning, I would say, $50 million. I would say it's a big hit is because of it. And noncontrolling interest, let me have a look here. It's just that Eve was in the mark-to-market in Q3 was positive. That's why it generate a positive impact for the other shareholders just because of it. But again, it's a temporary advantage because probably Eve is going to be more valuable in Q4 than Q3 that this credit is going to be reverted. I hope to be able to answer you.
Our next question comes from the chat and it's from Cenk Orcan. Can you provide some color on expected U.S. tariff impact on coming quarters?
Cenk, thanks for the question. We originally guided for about $60 million to $65 million of U.S. import tariffs for the full year. And as I mentioned, year-to-date, we have already recognized about $27 million of those. So we should -- based on the original guidance, we do have about $35 million left in Q4. But it's important that the company has been working hard to reduce that -- the size of that potential bill through different initiatives, and we do expect it to be lower. So let's see when we publish our full year numbers, what's the actual total.
This concludes the question-and-answer session for equity research analysts and investors.
Now we'll start the Q&A session to the press. First, we'll be answering questions in English, and then we'll be answering questions in Portuguese. We'll also answer questions and the questions sent via the platform chat. [Operator Instructions]
The first question comes from Nelson [indiscernible] I'm sorry, just one second because this question is in Portuguese. The next question comes from -- the first question is in Portuguese. I'm sorry, everyone. There is no answers in English. So we'll be answering the Portuguese questions for now.
[Interpreted] The first question comes from Nelson [indiscernible] from India. How is the campaign for KC-390 in India? The recent visit of Brazilian VP, did you make any advancements in the negotiation? What is the scope with the Mahindra Group? India focuses on local production. Would it be with parts produced in Brazil or fully produced with Indian products?
[Interpreted] Thank you very much for your question. The India project is moving forward very well. It is moving forward on our side and on the Indian side. The inauguration of Embraer's office 2 weeks ago in New Delhi was an important landmark for the company. And truth be told, we also counted with the presence of Vice President of Brazil, Geraldo Alckmin, Ministry of Defense, the commander of the Brazilian Air Force. Therefore, we are very well positioned. And we believe that KC-390 it's an excellent solution to India's Air Force. Our partnership with Mahindra includes marketing, also marketing and sales support. And we are also present on the industrial side of the deal.
This project of the middle aircraft transportation requires a 50% local origination of the parts, the production of the parts -- many of the parts will still be produced in Brazil, and there will be also parts from our suppliers being a vast majority either produced in India or sent to India where the final assemble of the aircraft will be conducted. The final localization part is not yet concluded. We are working on it, but it will be a collaboration between Brazil and India. All in all, it will be a win-win for both countries with this new business. And it's a business that for KC-390 is huge. It's a similar number of aircraft, very similar to our total production so far.
[Interpreted] Second question. Our next question is from [ Chandu Alves ] with [ Oval ] Newspaper. Dear Francisco Gomes Neto, how is the negotiation with the U.S. government for the removal of the 10% tariff on planes? Does that harms Embraer?
[Interpreted] Thank you for the question. The negotiation is between both governments. Embraer does not have direct participation in the negotiation. It's between both governments. But I would say that things are moving quite well. I think you just saw that President Lula met with President Trump in Kuala Lumpur a week ago. That was a very important step towards the negotiation process. And the process -- the negotiation of the process is moving forward. We are very optimistic about it. So once a bilateral agreement is met between both countries, the chances of the aircraft and its parts resume its 0 tariff. Chances are very good. And this has also happened with other bilateral agreements with the U.K., I mean, Europe, Japan and Indonesia, where in all cases, the aircraft that needs parts went back to 0 tariff.
And yes, the second part, it is harmful in 2 ways. One is the parts that Embraer sends to the U.S. for the assemble of executive aircraft that is being impacted by tariff payments, and this increases our expenses because the product becomes more expensive. And in the case in commercial aircraft, it penalizes the aircraft because it becomes more expensive with the tariffs. And this can probably may jeopardize the fact that airline companies may not even place further orders.
I just have a brief announcement to English speakers. [Operator Instructions] Next question from Mr. [indiscernible].
[Interpreted] Can you hear me?
[Interpreted] Yes, loud and clear. You can go ahead.
[Interpreted] At the beginning of your remarks, you said that Embraer is envisioning a more ambitious expansion. How do you envision this expansion? Can you give us some details, please?
[Interpreted] Okay. I understand that you were referring to a future expansion, right? Okay. Currently, our product portfolio is very modern and competitive. And we can notice that if you look at our order backlog because it's close to $31 billion, and there are still $50 billion under construction. And we continue to focus on the sale of these products. And with this backlog, we expect a very significant growth of the company in the next 5 years. We are thinking beyond 5 years and even 10 years. Therefore, now we are investing in new technologies, important investments in new technologies because Embraer needs to be prepared for a future growth cycle based on new products or new aircraft. It could be aircraft for Executive Aviation, Commercial or Defense aircraft. So this is our short- and long-term view.
This is the expansion that I mentioned during my remarks. New products and also future opportunities for further growth of the company going forward. These new products could refer to Commercial Aviation, meaning larger planes than E195-E2. It could be larger or smaller. We are also looking at new technologies with electric propulsion. It could be a hybrid one for midsized aircraft. I mean, we do not define yet what would be our production line. We are investing in new technologies because it's important that we are prepared to make that decision when the time comes.
[Interpreted] And about KC-390 or the [ C-360 ] Millennium with India. From my understanding, Embraer thinks that this business is a given, right?
[Interpreted] No. No. This is a very tough competition. We are competing with a U.S. aircraft, an American aircraft, well consolidated in the market. We are also competing with the French aircraft, but we believe that our aircraft are very well positioned for that kind of application. But from there until signing the agreement, there is a large avenue.
[Interpreted] I mean just my last question. Maybe you will tell me that I should participate in Eve's conference call. But in terms of the actual flight test with the flying aircraft, will the test be conducted in Brazil?
[Interpreted] Yes, they are occurring in Brazil. So we hope that Eve's first flight should occur late this year or early next year. And so we are working very hard in the development of the product, which we believe to be very important for Embraer in the future. But if you need more details, you should just join Eve's conference call, which will follow ours. But the tests are being conducted in our plant in Gavião Peixoto.
[Interpreted] Now our next question will be in English. Let me just give a brief announcement to Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language] [Operator Instructions]
The next question will be conducted in English. It comes from Jon Hemmerdinger.
Can you hear me? I just want to touch on, Francisco, you mentioned new commercial products. And you've talked about some of this before, but I also heard you mention potential larger aircraft than the 195. Would you be willing to give any sort of updated time line on when you might expect to make a decision on what comes next on the commercial side? And if so, what is that time line?
Actually, John, this is the most frequent question I had in the past year. But again, I mean, the answer remains the same. We keep investing in new technologies. I mean we want to be -- to have our, let's say, technology readiness for -- to go for a new product that might be executive aircraft or commercial aircraft bigger or smaller, but we don't have a time line definition at this point of time.
Yes. Fair enough. If I can follow that up with a question about the U.S. government shutdown. Has that affected any of the FAA work that you're doing, the certification work with Eve, any of the airworthiness ticketing for the aircraft, the E2s or the E1s for that matter? And any -- has it affected any discussions about tariffs? Are these things delayed because of the shutdown?
No, no, no, John. I mean, again, I mean, in terms of certification work, we continue working very closely with ANAC in Brazil and also with the contacts with the FAA. And the tariffs, I mean, I don't see any issue because of the shutdown affecting the tariff negotiation between Brazil and the U.S.
The next question comes from [indiscernible].
My name is [indiscernible] I'm coming from Lagos, Nigeria. I have an African question. Africa is under privileged. So from what you said, Embraer is in a highly positive phase of operation this year. With that having been said, does Embraer have any plan to increase its commitment to build capacity in Africa?
Thanks for the question. Africa is a very important market for Embraer, a very important region. We have many aircraft in operation in the continent. And more recently, we delivered aircraft for Air Link, South Africa, the E2, but we have many customers operating aircraft in Africa. So again, we will continue to invest in that region, I mean, to introduce more and more Embraer aircraft and Embraer services in the continent.
So is there any plan to increase the commitment to build capacity in Africa?
In terms of services, yes, as much as we deliver more aircraft, then we need more service and support depending on the region. But today, we already have a good structure, service structure to support our aircraft in operation in the continent.
The next question comes from the chat, and it's from Edgardo [indiscernible] from Aviation Line. Is there any update regarding the suspension of the development of the new Embraer turboprop? How long can this program realistically remain paused before its initial design assumptions and market analysis become obsolete? And he's got also a question #2, but if you'd like to answer this one first, please go ahead.
Sure. Thanks for the question. Well, the turboprop project or initiative has been canceled by us. I mean, we don't have at this point of time any project or initiative in that direction anymore. It might change in the future, but at this point of time, the project has -- it's not on hold, it has been canceled. What is on hold is the E175-E2. That one is on hold because of the scope clause in the U.S. So we are following the scope clause. If any change happens, then we will consider to restore the work on the 175-E2. But again, turboprop has been -- project has been canceled.
His second question is, I would like to know if there have been any updates regarding the Aerolíneas Argentinas order for the E195-E2 aircraft, which was put on hold after the change of government.
No, no change, no updates. We hope that one day, they will come back and to consider that program that is a natural replacement of the old E190 E1s by the E2 family. At this point of time, we don't have any update on that sales campaign.
Thank you very much, sir. Thank you, everyone, for participating. This has concluded the Q&A session of the Embraer conference.
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Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Rund $2,0 Mrd. (+18% YoY)
- Lieferungen: 62 Flugzeuge in Q3'25 (20 Commercial, 41 Executive, 1 KC‑390), +5% YoY
- Ergebnis: Adjusted EBIT $172 Mio. (8,6%); Adjusted EBITDA $236 Mio. (11,8%)
- Backlog: $31,3 Mrd. (+38%); Commercial $15,2 Mrd., Executive $7,3 Mrd., Services $4,9 Mrd., Defense $3,9 Mrd.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Produktion: Lean‑Programme + KI + “perfect station” → 16% mehr Auslieferungen; Fertigungszeiten vs. 2021: Praetor −40%, KC‑390 −33%, E‑Jets −27%
- Netzwerk & Anlagen: Ausbau von MRO/Hangars/Endmontage in USA und Brasilien; Services‑Push inkl. Starlink, OGMA GTF‑Shop
- Markt & Orders: Starke Auftragseingänge (Avelo, LATAM) und Verteidigungsaufträge (Portugal, Panama); viele Optionen (~$20 Mrd.) als Upside
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- 2025‑Ziele: Lieferungen Commercial 77–85, Executive 145–155; Umsatz $7,0–7,5 Mrd.; Adjusted EBIT‑Marge 7,5–8,3%; Adjusted FCF > $200 Mio.
- Risiken: US‑Importzölle erwartet ursprünglich $60–65 Mio. (YTD $27M → ~ $35M Rest); Q4‑Lieferkonzentration und saisonale Supply‑Chain‑Risiken bleiben
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Kapitalrückfluss: Dividendenzahlung läuft (Pflicht 25% Nettoeinkommen); Buybacks werden geprüft, aber noch keine Entscheidung
- Zölle & Supply‑Chain: Management sieht Teileverfügbarkeit gesichert, bleibt jedoch vorsichtig für Q4; versucht Zoll‑Exposure zu reduzieren
- Produktfragen: E2‑Triebwerke (PW1900G) kein vergleichbares Problem wie PW1500; KC‑390‑Verhandlungen in Indien aktiv, Lokalisierung ≈50% angestrebt
⚡ Bottom Line
- Kernergebnis: Solide operative Erholung: starkes Backlog, wachsende Services‑Sparte und verbesserte Profitabilität. Hauptunsicherheiten bleiben US‑Zölle und die Q4‑Lieferkonzentration. Für Aktionäre bedeutet das: moderates Upside‑Potenzial aus Optionen und Services, aber Kurzfrist‑Volatilität durch Zölle und Liefertiming.
Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q2 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for standing by. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. This conference call will be conducted in English, but please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language]
My name is Guilherme Paiva, and I'm the Head of Investor Relations and M&A for Embraer. I want to welcome you to our second quarter earnings conference call. The numbers in this presentation contain non-GAAP financial information to help investors reconcile Eve's financial information in GAAP standards to Embraer's IFRS. We remind you, Eve's results will be discussed at the company's conference call.
It is important to mention that our numbers are presented in U.S. dollar as it is our functional currency. This conference call may include statements about future events based on Embraer expectations and financial market trends. Such statements are subject to uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in this conference call. Except in accordance with the applicable rules, the company assumes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. For detailed financial information, the company encourages reviewing publications filed by the company with the Brazilian Comissão de Valores Mobiliários or CVM. [Operator Instructions]
Participants on today's conference call are Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO of Embraer; Antonio Carlos Garcia, Chief Financial Officer; Luis Harrison, Corporate Communications Director; and myself. This conference call will have 3 parts. In the first part, top management will present the company's Q2 results. In the second part, we will host a Q&A session only for investors. And last but definitely not least, in the third part, we will host a dedicated Q&A session only for the press.
It is my pleasure to now turn the conference call to our President and CEO, Francisco Gomes. Please go ahead, Francisco.
Good morning, everyone. It is a pleasure to be here with you to share our second quarter 2025 year results. We had another strong quarter, reinforcing the consistency in our sustainable growth journey. Embraer delivered the highest second quarter revenue in its history, totaling $1.8 billion. Our adjusted EBIT margin was 10.5%, the highest level for a second quarter over the past decade. The backlog recorded a new $29.7 billion all-time high, driven by strong demand across all business units. Deliveries were up 30% year-over-year, a result of our focus on operational efficiency and on our production-leveling initiative. The book-to-bill ratio was closer to 2:1 in the last 12 months across all business units.
U.S. tariffs continue to be a major concern to our business, but with an important step forward last week, highlighting the importance of our industry not only for Brazil but also for the U.S. We are confident about further progress in negotiations in line with other recent agreements in our sector that have set a positive precedent.
Now the main highlights for the company during the quarter. Commercial Aviation performed very well across both E1 and E2 platforms. SAS ordered 45 E195-E2s with 10 additional options. At the same time, SkyWest purchased 60 E175s with 50 additional options. The division's backlog reached $13.1 billion with a strong 1.8:1 book-to-bill over the last 12 months. Executive Aviation delivered another strong quarter with record second quarter revenue of circa $550 million and a robust $7.4 billion backlog, supported by a 2.4:1 book-to-bill over the past 12 months.
In Defense & Security, Portugal confirmed its sixth KC-390 purchase, including 10 additional options that may be used by other European countries to facilitate future acquisitions. Lithuania also became the seventh NATO country to select the aircraft. The division ended the quarter with a $4.3 billion backlog and a trailing 3.6:1 book-to-bill in the last 12 months. Service & Support continued its global expansion, signing 8 New Pool contracts, increasing its MRO capabilities with commuter air and launching full-flight simulator partnership with CAE in Montreal, Canada and Madrid, Spain. The division closed the quarter with a $4.9 billion backlog and a 2:1 book-to-bill that means top of sales versus revenue in the last 12 months.
We continue to work in our production-leveling initiative to increase efficiency, productivity, output and improve cash flow. In the previous quarter, we shared with the market the improvements in our operator production line. This quarter, we highlight the KC-390 line in the Defense segment where we have also seen significant operational gains over the past year. These improvements include: double-digit increases in aircraft production, operational efficiency, reduction in production cycle time; and decreasing cost of poor quality, as you can see in the presentation slide.
About tariffs, let me share with you what we have been doing to manage this situation. We have been very active with high-level authorities in Brazil and in the U.S. to demonstrate the relevance of our company in terms of job creation, investments, services to passengers and to support the development of a negotiated solution as we have seen with other countries. As you can see in this slide, our company plays a key role in the U.S. regional aviation market as our aircraft transport approximately 100 million passengers every year. Our business currently supports 13,000 jobs in the country and should create another 5,500 jobs by 2030, with an impressive trade balance of $8 billion in favor of the U.S.
Embraer is also willing to invest another $500 million in the U.S., which should create roughly another 2,500 jobs in the country with a combination of our organic growth in the country and the potential adoption of our KC-390 platform by the U.S. Air Force before the end of the decade. We are excited to say we are in advanced conversations with a relevant U.S. partner for this project. We continue to believe in and advocate firmly for a return to the zero tariff rule for the global aerospace industry, which was the status quo over the previous 45-plus years.
We also continue to encourage a constructive dialogue between the Brazilian and the U.S. governments to reach an amicable resolution. In the short term, as you know, we have taken measures to preserve this year's results. The impact of the current 10% tariff is already considered in our forecast for the year. This means upside if tariffs return to 0 soon.
I will now move on to operational results by segment over the next few slides. All figures are based on year-on-year comparisons. In Commercial Aviation, revenues increased 4% because of product and customer mix and adjusted EBIT margin remained flat at 4.3%. In Executive Aviation, the top line soared 64%, supported by higher volumes and product mix. The adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 14.5% because of operating leverage and cost containment initiatives.
Moving to Defense & Security. Revenues grew 18% because of A29 Super Tucano production. The improvement of almost 10 percentage points in the adjusted EBIT margin to 9.2% reflects higher A29 volumes and better KC-390 customer mix. In Service & Support, revenues rose 13%, driven by the ramp-up of OGMA's GTF engine shop. The adjusted EBIT margin declined slightly to 15.5%, mainly due to higher past due credit provisions.
Eve achieved an important milestone in the second quarter with the announcement of its first binding order with Revo for 10 vehicles in 40 options including aftermarket services.
Let me pass it over to Antonio so he can highlight the main financial points of the quarter.
Thank you, Francisco. Good morning, and good afternoon to everyone. There are a lot of moving parts around the world, but let me present to you what we really control, our operational and financial results. Our performance in Q2 was brilliant and consistent as you'll see shortly. First and foremost, let me reiterate our 2025 guidance. We are confident we will achieve between $7 billion to $7.5 billion in revenues, 7.5% and 8.3% in adjusted EBIT margin and more than $200 million in adjusted free cash flow from a financial perspective. Meanwhile, we expect to deliver between 77 and 85 aircraft in Commercial Aviation and 145 and 155 in Executive Aviation from an operational point of view.
Turning to the quarter, all my comments will be based on year-over-year comparison unless noted. Let me move to Slide 12, beginning with deliveries. Embraer delivered 61 aircraft across all business units for a 30% increase. In Commercial Aviation, deliveries totaled 19 aircraft, in line with the same period of last year. In the first half of the year, we delivered 26 commercial aircraft, which represents 32% of the midpoint of our full year guidance of 81 aircraft, marginally below the 5 years average of 35% for the first semester.
In Executive Aviation, we delivered 38 jets, of which 21 were in the light segment and 17 in the midsized for an increase of 41%. More importantly, in the first half of the year, we delivered 61 business jets, which accounts for 41% of the midpoint of our full year guidance of 150 jets, well above the 5 year average of 32% for the first semester.
In Slide 13, our company-wide backlog recorded a new all-time high of $29.7 billion, up a significant 40%. Looking at each division, the backlog for Commercial Aviation grew 16% while for Executive Aviation was 62%, reflecting the growing demand for our aircraft in both segments. In Defense & Security, the backlog doubled, supported by strong momentum in KC-390 and A29 Super Tucano sales. While in Services & Support, the backlog increased 55%, highlighting continued and consistent growth in the segment.
Moving to revenue, our top line was $1.8 billion, the best second quarter in our history and 22% higher. In our breakdown by business, we can see Commercial and Executive Aviation were responsible for more than 60% of the revenue, followed by Service & Support with 25% and Defense & Security with 12%.
Moving to the next slide, Slide 14. We generated $246 million in adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter with a 13.5% margin. Now adjusted EBIT for the quarter was $192 million with a 10.5% margin, the best second quarter margin over the past 10 years. I'd like to highlight a key milestone. In the first half of the year, we achieved adjusted EBIT margin of 80.7%, a remarkable step-up from 1.1% average over the past 5 years. While this is a significant achievement, we are aware that the second half of the year will bring important challenges, driven mainly by inflationary pressures, foreign exchange rate volatility and ongoing tariff discretion in U.S.
Now let's move to the next slide, Slide 15. In second quarter, we consumed $162 million in adjusted free cash flow, mainly because of $312 million increase in working capital in preparation for higher numbers of aircraft delivered in the next 2 quarters. For example, we have a handful of aircraft to be delivered in late June that moved to the right. Looking now to our investments. In the second quarter, excluding Eve, we allocated a total of $97 million or 10% lower. It includes $53 million in CapEx, $28 million in addition to intangibles, $9 million in research, and $90 million in new pool program to support new contracts.
It is important to highlight our capital allocation remains focused on Executive Aviation, Services & Support, the segments with highest return rates, especially in U.S. market. To complete this slide, there are 2 important points here. First, our reported net income was $79 million during the quarter with a 4.3% margin, which was roughly $100 million lower than our reported EBIT because of the negative noncash impact of mark-to-market of Eve warrants and the losses associated with Azul restructuring. Second, our adjusted net income ended at $5 million in the red with a margin of minus 0.3%. The almost $85 million shortfall to our reported net income was because of negative $163 million in deferred taxes, driven by stronger Brazilian foreign exchange rates and positive $79 million adjustment for Eve results.
Let's move to Slide 16. I'd like to start by drawing your attention to the top right corner. Over the past 12 months, Embraer, excluding Eve, has significantly reduced both its gross and net debt position by approximately $560 million and $720 million, respectively. We closed the second quarter with a net debt to EBITDA, excluding Eve ratio, of 0.7x, a substantial improvement from 2x one year ago. That said, the negative free cash flow of $547 million for Embraer stand-alone in the first half of the year because of business seasonality has contributed to a temporary increase in leverage compared to end of 2024.
As part of our liability management strategy, we remain focused on extending debt duration and lowering our cost of capital. As a result, our average debt maturity without Eve has increased to 6.1 years, up from 3.7 years at the end of last year.
Slide 17. To conclude my presentation, I'd like to talk briefly about shareholders and shareholder remuneration. Firstly, I would like to thank you all for your support and say that I'm proud to mention our company celebrated in July our 25 year listing anniversary at the New York Stock Exchange. Second, Embraer declared nearly BRL 143 million in interest on equity during the quarter, which translates to BRL 0.19 per share. This amount may be complemented by a top-up dividend if needed to meet the minimum 25% net income distribution required by Brazilian corporate law. The full amount will be paid in a single installment after our 2026 Annual Shareholders' Meeting.
With that, I hand back to Francisco for his final remarks, and thank you very much.
Thank you, Antonio. In summary, our Defense business brought good news from Europe with Portugal's new purchasing and Lithuania's selection of the KC-390. SkyWest order of our E175 aircraft consolidates our dominant position in the U.S. regional market. And I will take the opportunity to say thank you to SAS, a long-standing partner of Embraer through the E1 platform and now as a new operator of the E2 family.
Our Executive Aviation maintained its strong performance in sales and deliveries. The second quarter of 2025 was another milestone for Embraer. We delivered record revenues, the highest second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin in a decade and reached a new all-time high backlog with back-to-back significant orders year-to-date. We continue to work hard to generate value for our customers and our shareholders, and we are optimistic about a likely positive outcome for the current U.S. tariff overhang.
I will also thank all the support we received from our U.S. customers and suppliers like American Airlines, SkyWest, Alaska, United, AerCap, General Electric, Honeywell, RTX, Parker Hannifin, and Eaton, among others in the tariff negotiation process. And I conclude this presentation by reaffirming the foundation of our culture, safety first and quality always.
Thanks for your trust in our company and let's now start the Q&A session.
[Operator Instructions] We remind you again that this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. We also highlight this conference call is being conducted in English with translation to Portuguese. Please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. [Foreign Language] [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Marcelo Motta with JPMorgan.
2. Question Answer
It's regarding the outlook for the second half. During the conference call, Antonio mentioned about FX volatility, potential tariffs, inflationary pressure. So just wondering how big could this challenge be? Because when we look at the historical EBIT margin for the second half, usually, it is much stronger than what we see in the first half given the seasonality. So just wondering if there is -- what are the risks and opportunities to revise the guidance upward during the second half, given that the first half was very strong?
Marcelo, thanks for the nice question. I was expecting the first place. You're right. Year-to-date, we are at 8.7% and we all know our margins at 8.3%, but some comments here. We only have, I would say, 20% year-to-date tariff impact with the big amount of tariffs still in our inventory to be invoiced in the second half of the year. That's already something that was not in our plan. The dollars get weaker, real is getting stronger. That's why when you do the translation, the cost in reals, we have also a negative impact and also in IPCA in Brazil, the inflation that we put our forecast.
It seems a little bit stronger than was planned, more or less 1.3%. If you put in a nutshell, I would say be on the safe side. We are keeping the guidance as long the next months and quarters evolve, then we could revise, but we are not in a position to do it. And nobody knows what can happen still in the tariff issue. That's why I would say the guidance seems to be safe today, but we do prefer to be more waiting more months in order to tell the market a different story right now.
The next question comes from Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley.
Francisco, Antonio and Gui, wow, like what a really strong operating quarter. I guess with U.S. customers facing the prospect that they would have had to pay a 50% tariff on Embraer E-Jets if the aerospace exemption wasn't added, how is your conversations with those customers? Because now that for now, these tariffs are gone and they're looking at their fleet, is it increasing the urgency for them to re-fleet? And could you see potentially more orders out of the U.S. and E175s as they evaluate their fleet needs?
Kristine, Francisco here. Thanks for the question. Actually, Kristine, since the implementation of the first round of tariffs last April, we have been working to mitigate the impact for us and for the customers. And for our customers, especially the E175 customers, the final tariff is lower than 10% because of the U.S. content that we have in our aircraft. So then since that time, we have been working with them and we were able to deliver a few aircraft since that month.
But our focus is really to restore the 0 tariff. So we are happy that we were able to come from 50% to 10%, but which reduced a lot of the impact for our customers and we are working with them to deliver the aircraft. But in parallel, we are working hard to restore the 0 tariff and we see some precedents in the market. So about new orders, well, I mean, we are happy with the orders we have for E175 this year, and we do not expect new big orders for E175 along this year.
The next question comes from Myles Walton with Wolfe Research.
Maybe for Antonio, within Defense, obviously great performance. In the commentary, you talked about POC completion driving a lot of the margin accretion. So I guess based on that, why wouldn't this level of performance continue if it's POC-driven and not A29 Super Tucano unit deliveries?
Thanks, Myles, for the question. In fact, we are -- as you could see that we are improving the performance, and for sure, the Super Tucano helps a lot. I would say, for me, Defense & Security is a straight line to moving to the higher single digit in the coming quarters. I don't know if it's going to happen this year, but we are going there because the majority of our POC customer right now is shifting from local contracts to export contracts, including the Super Tucanos.
By doing that, I would say it's accretive for a high single digit, even double-digit margin, but not yet. I would say let's wait probably next year, but you could see the progression is clear -- crystal clear about our margin way for Defense. And I would say -- and everything we are doing is on the POC and when we revise the baseline, assuming the production level and the efficiency we are showing here, I would say we have, I would say, more chances than risk.
Myles, Gui here. Just to be clear, the A29s also follow the POC method. There's a mix of both the A29s and the KC-390.
Okay. And then just a clarification, those deliveries that moved to the right, were those moved to the right because of tariffs? Were they moved to the right because of supply chain? Any color on that?
No, we are talking about just for Commercial Aviation, Myles. And I would say everybody knows about the Azul situation, and we are waiting the lessor to give us the authorization to issue the -- to invoice the aircraft. And we have until end of June some commercial or other customers, but I would say nothing that is going to compromise the guidance of this year is really that, I would say, the paperwork was not finished to invoice the aircraft. But in regards to production output, we produced much more what we delivered for Commercial Aviation, I would say, continues to see effects of production leveling but not invoicing those aircraft, at least for Commercial.
The next question comes from Ronald Epstein with Bank of America.
I'm not sure if you can answer this but I'm going to ask it anyway. If you look at the relative valuation of Embraer compared to, say, Joby, Joby is $16 billion today. Your guys' market cap in the U.S. is $10 billion. Archer's market cap is $6 billion. Would you consider cutting Eve loose? Because it seems like maybe there would be more value there as a separate company than as part of Embraer, given that Joby and Archer are in that same market and other considerations.
Ron, thanks for the question. Difficult to be answered. I would say our valuation picked up a lot in the last years from one side, and we do see a lot of value, a premium for being together when we talk about synergies, when we talk about efficiency, when you talk about product development. That's why we didn't change our strategy to be one conglomerate of our business units. And I would say, seeing also Joby, we have Eve. Eve still needs more liquidity in order to pick up as, I would say, let's see how Eve develop but we don't have any thoughts to change the way we are structured today as a full corporation with all units and really enjoy the premium for being together.
And remember that Eve is a separate company, right?
That's why let's see. As long as we have more liquidity for Eve, we are going to see those effects. But I would say for the overall Embraer, I would say, legacy Embraer, we are so happy with what we are doing right now.
Got it, got it. And if I may, as a follow-on along that same line of questioning. Do you guys have any update on the thoughts on product development on what's going on there? Is there anything you can share with the market regarding potential new aircraft?
Ron, thank you. You always come with a question. We keep investing in new technologies as we mentioned before. We don't have any other news than that to share with the market at this point of time.
The next question comes from Andre Ferreira with Bradesco BBI.
Congrats on the results. I have 1 question. You mentioned in the second quarter Service segments, there were higher credit provisions. Just wanted to check if those are related to the $9 million in the income statement. And if not, if you could please explain what do they mean and the impact they had on the Service EBIT margin.
Andre, thanks for the question. It's Gui here. We know that there is a customer going through a restructuring process, so the charges are related to the process.
Just to complement, we have, I would say, from Q2 onwards, we have almost 0 effect from this restructuring as well. Everything we booked already in Q2.
And the specific impact on Service?
That was a specific effect on Services on the EBIT side when we booked the provision for bad debt. That was the main impact on Services from a restructuring standpoint.
And just to be clear, Andre, I mean, clients buy aircraft but they also buy services and parts. So that's related to that.
Was the latest, last write-off we did.
The next question comes from Lucas Esteves with Santander.
Congratulations for the results. I have a question, as Ron said, I don't know if you can answer but I will ask anyway. On the Polish potential order for defense for the KC-390, do you have any updates? And also on that, would it make sense for you to build a new line of -- a new assembly line for the KC-390 in Poland even if you don't get the order from them to build the aircraft for NATO countries?
Lucas, thank you for your question. Francisco speaking. We continue working with Poland in that campaign. We have -- as another campaign, we have a positive view about our opportunities to meet. And well, I mean, we have a plan to increase production of KC-390 from now to 2030, by 1 per year. This year, we should produce 5 and we are in our path to achieve 10 units per year by 2030. And at this point of time, I mean, we are working with big campaigns as India and the U.S. Those campaigns for sure, would require a localization of the production of the aircraft.
In case of Poland, this will depend on other deals in the region for us to use Poland as a hub. We had this plan with them, I mean, combined with commercial jets, but unfortunately, they decide to go to the competition. So this changed a little our total plans for the country, but we still have plans for the KC-390 to do some local -- more localization if we win the order.
If I may make a follow-up on tariffs, just a quick one. Reading how the U.S. trade representative writes on their website about the World Trade Organization agreement on civil aircraft, they say the agreement requires signatories to eliminate tariffs on a nondiscriminatory basis to other signatories. When -- what do you understand about the need for the U.S. to sign out of this agreement if they keep the 10% tariffs for Brazil on aircraft?
This question is difficult to me to answer. You should ask the officials in the U.S., but we are working hard. We are advocating the restoration of the 0 tariff. And we see this as part of other agreements. You see agreements between U.S. and U.K. and more recently, U.S. and Europe. And yes, we believe we can be the next in a bilateral negotiation between Brazil and the U.S. or even U.S. recognizing the importance of our industry to generate jobs and make investments in the country.
The next question comes from André Mazini with Citi.
So you mentioned in the prepared remarks that the U.S. capital allocation is going to be focused on Executive Aviation. So wanted to confirm if there will be no Commercial Aviation in the expansion of the Melbourne, Florida facility you guys put out there? Or if you -- on the contrary, if you could see some E family jets coming out of there, particularly as the A220 does have an assembly line in Mobile, Alabama, right? They have U.S. production. So how you're thinking about the Melbourne, Florida facility?
André, thank you for the question. Welcome, by the way. For our investments we are doing right now in U.S., we have 2 big initiatives. Firstly, it is to set up capacity in our Melbourne facility for the business aviation. We are talking about $90 million. We are more or less almost finalized those investments. And second, we are also investing more than $70 million in Texas to expand our Services & Support facility. Those are the 2 big investments we are doing right now. And about new relocation of production, I'm going to pass to Francisco for any remark here.
Andre, thanks for your question. Again, for commercial jets, we have a hybrid line in São José dos Campos, where we assemble the E1s and the E2 jets in the same line. So I mean, it's very, very efficient line for the volume we intend to make every year. And we believe that our business plan for the U.S. is also very attractive for both sides. So I mean, almost 40% of our aircraft is already made by U.S. equipment, U.S. parts.
And if you look at the next 5 years, according to our production planning in the next 5 years, we expect to buy $21 billion in U.S. equipments and parts and we will export only $13 billion. So in 5 years, we will generate impressive $8 billion surplus for the U.S. So we have a very good business model already for both countries. That's why we are advocating for the restoration of the 0 tariff. And other changes in the footprint, yes, we are making studies. But again, we believe that we have a very robust, I mean, economic proposal, economic value for the U.S. with the footprint we have today.
The next question comes from Daniel Gasparete with Itau BBA.
The first question, I would like confirmation about something that Antonio said on the first question. I'm not sure if I understood correctly, but he said that 20% of the tariff impact expected for the year happened on this quarter. I'm not sure if I got that correctly. I would like him to confirm, if possible, please.
And the second question would be if you guys could provide us some timetable on the test flight of Eve expected now -- right now for the second half of this year. When you guys are expecting that to happen? If you could provide us with some outlook for that.
Gasparete, thank you for your question. Firstly, about the tariffs, year-to-date, we have around 20% of the tariff's impact already in our profit and loss and cash flow. And that's why we do expect a bigger hit in the second half of this Q3 and Q4. That's why we are a little bit, I would say, moderate by just reaffirming our guidance. For sure, we are performing better, but that's why it's going to hit more our profit and loss in the second half. 80%, we said 90 bps so you could calculate we have 20% right now year-to-date. The remaining 80% is going to flow Q3 and Q4. And for Eve, I'm going to pass to Francisco here.
For Eve, we are now working on the final assembly of parts in the prototype and the plan for the first flight is for December this year.
Francisco, sorry, December, is that correct?
December. Yes, correct.
The next question comes from Lucas Laghi with XP Investiments (sic) [ Investimentos ].
Congratulations on the strong results. I have one question regarding working capital. I mean, we're seeing a lot of production-leveling initiatives on the Executive division already bearing fruits regarding the delivery pace that we're seeing. On the Defense, Francisco showed on the presentation some initiatives bearing fruit as well in terms of efficiency gains for the KC-390.
My question is regarding the potential room that you guys see for working capital optimization, following all of your production-leveling initiatives going forward. How is the space that you see for some free cash flow improvement regarding these initiatives going through the working capital in the upcoming quarters? So some free cash flow discussion on your working capital, it would be very insightful as well.
Thanks, Lucas, and thanks for the great question. I would say short term, we are continuing to fighting for cash flow steering, which is we are not happy because we accumulate negative cash flow Q1, Q3, then balance a little bit in Q3, then move highly positive in Q4. We are not there yet.
But we -- I would say we reiterate our guidance. That's one of the indicators that we are fighting at most because of still the highest portion of the revenue is going to happen in Q3 and Q4. But for the long-term, I will pass to Francisco to give some ideas about what we could monetize on the working capital, especially inventories.
Lucas, thanks for your question. Actually, we have a lot of good initiatives to reduce inventory and to increase the inventory turn for the next years. It is true that in the past years, we have suffered with the inventory levels because we planned for a certain amount of aircraft a range. But because of the supply chain issues, we are not able to deliver all the aircraft's we plan, and we put in the production process.
But we are now, year-after-year, improving this process and we want to improve further in 2026 onwards. So the combination of a more accurate production planning with these production-leveling initiatives and other initiatives we have in place, we expect to increase our inventory turn for currently 1.6x to closer to 3x a year. This will release almost $1 billion from our inventory in 3 years.
The next question comes from Ronald Epstein with Bank of America.
I'm back. Just maybe one more question, and this was asked sort of but I just want to maybe peel back the onion a little bit on it more. When you think about the production footprint, why wouldn't it make sense to move more Executive Aviation production to the U.S., given that so much of the market is here anyway?
Well, Ron, again, we have an important part of our production of executive jets in the U.S. already. On top, as I said before, I mean, our aircraft's, they have a content of closer to 40% of U.S. equipment. So we believe we have a good combination today, I mean, to allow us to be very competitive. Yes, we are always making studies what else we can do in terms of footprint, but trying to be as lean as possible to offer good and competitive products to our customers.
Got it. And then the one question that nobody has asked yet, surprisingly is how are sales campaigns going on for the big airplanes for the E1s and the E2s? You guys do have a market outside the U.S., right, so what's going on there? And if you can give some color around that.
Absolutely. Very good question, Ron. I mean, yes, we had a good start this year with the 2 important wins. I mean, [ ENA ] in Japan, you know how important is that airline, I mean, globally, and now SAS. So both orders we -- ANA is up to 20, 15 plus 5 and SAS 45 plus 10, very good important orders. And we are working in many other campaigns that we expect to see the results in the next month. So we are optimistic that we announce new orders for E2s, especially. E1s, we got to the 60 plus 50 from SkyWest, big order. So we do not expect more orders for E1s for U.S. -- for the U.S.
And Ron, for the E1, we are seeing also some movement outside the U.S. as well for campaigns, not big numbers, but some interest from other customers on the new E1s for outside the U.S.
The next question comes from Alberto Valerio with UBS.
I would like to congratulate you guys for the efforts that you did for mitigating the tariffs with the authorities in Brazil, U.S. and also the American companies.
My question is regarding tariffs. I would like to know if for the new business jet orders, you guys are able to put this higher price already to mitigate these tariffs. And also negotiations between the current backlog that you guys have in place, if there is any negotiations between the clients on business jets that you guys are paying for this tax? And also if the airlines, they are asking some support from Embraer because if I understand, they are the importers, they are paying those tax.
Alberto, thank you for your question. I mean, about tariffs in general, we are positive that we will come to a good resolution for this issue because of our -- we believe we have a robust -- very robust economic with the U.S. As I said before, $8 billion in surplus in the next 5 years. I mean, 13,000 jobs currently in the U.S., plus 5,000 to be created in the next 5 years. $0.5 billion of new investments in the U.S. And this was also based on the 0 tariff. So that's why we believe -- I mean, we have a robust economic to restore the 0 tariff as we have seen with other countries.
I mean, commercial jets, we don't have any plans to increase price because of tariffs because the tariffs will be paid by the customers. And business jets, we will keep our price competitive in the U.S. to support our continued growth in the market. So again, all the impact this year is already included in the projections, and we are maintaining our guidance for this year with an upside if the tariffs are removed soon.
And Alberto, sorry for not corroborating your recommendation to our share. We continuously improve our performance here.
This concludes the question-and-answer session for equity research analysts and investors. Now we'll start the Q&A session dedicated to the press. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Jon Hemmerdinger.
I guess I'd want to touch on the tariff issue again. You mentioned that you think you have a good case to remove the 10%. I'm wondering if you could give us any guidance on to what else you might be willing to do to get rid of that 10% more -- touch again on any more operations in the U.S.A., any commercial operations in the U.S.A. would be possible? Anything else? Any collaboration with a U.S. aerospace company? And also, any -- are you negotiating on this issue right now because the 40% was already removed? So what's next?
Jon, thanks for your question. I mean, just to make sure that the impact for our customers in the U.S. for commercial jets and the parts we send to the U.S., I mean, it's lower than 10%, right, because of the U.S. -- the high U.S. content we have in our products. So even then we have been working to mitigate the impacts, I mean, optimizing logistics, I mean, putting in place free trade zones, temporary imports, doing a lot of things that has helped us to reduce the impact.
I mean, and we will continue making studies, Jon, to do that. I mean, footprint, more collaboration with U.S. companies. I mean, U.S. is a very important market for Embraer and do the best we can to ensure that we will have -- we will continue having a strong presence in that market. What else? That's it.
But we also -- what would be -- what are your next steps? Are you involve in discussions right now?
Thank you. Next step, important one would be the localization of the KC-390. We have been working hard in the country with the U.S. Air Force. We have reinforced our team in the U.S. We are advanced in conversation with a relevant partner to localize the production of the KC-390 once we succeed selling, introducing the KC-390 in the U.S. Air Force.
The next question comes from the live chat is from Juliana Rocha from [indiscernible]. Could you give more details on Azul impact on the results and future results? How many aircraft will you deliver to Azul that is waiting to be invoiced? The Embraer Jets Azul is returning to lessors with have -- sorry, the Embraer Jets Azul is returning to lessors will have any impact on Embraer results?
Juliana, thanks for the question. First of all, I'd like to highlight that Azul is a very important customer for Embraer for our E2 platform. And we know that it is very important for Azul, and we are continuing to support this customer to the restructuring process. All impacts from the restructure has been already booked into second quarter results. All write-offs has been made, okay? And now we need to wait the procedures about the Chapter 11.
And from the aircraft's we have in our backlog, we are currently on renegotiation with them, and we need -- we cannot anticipate any change right now and good discussions ongoing, and we are going to find the solution.
The next question comes from the live chat as well from Chad Trautvetter. Can you please address tariffs on executive jets?
Well, I mean, I think, again, executive jets, we have a part -- important part of our production already in the U.S., in part in Brazil with the aircraft and components that we send to the U.S. We have a good balance. And again, we -- for us, the impact is less than 10% because of the U.S. content we have in our aircraft. So we are trying to find a ways to reduce this even further and by optimizing the process and also making studies about, I mean, further collaboration with the U.S. aerospace industry.
Another question from Mr. Trautvetter with AIN Media. Also, what is the specific purpose of the investment in the Melbourne Executive Jet production plant? Increased Phenom production expanded to final assembly of freighters there or something else?
So we are investing to expand our production capacity for Phenoms. Also our flight preparation area to receive and do the final -- the deliveries of the Praetors and doing some local activities as well. And yes, painting booth, we are implementing a new painting booth that can paint both Phenoms and Praetors. So as you see, we have already activities with the Praetors in the U.S. as well on top of the production line of the Phenoms.
The next question comes from the live chat as well from Simone Chiellini. Congratulations on the great results. I would like to ask what is the progress on the E175 cabin improvements? And when is the first aircraft scheduled for delivery?
Well, good question, Simone. So yes, we are very excited about this improvement. This will bring more comfort for the passenger. And for sure, this will help us to sell -- continue selling E175-E2. We are at this point of time working with the suppliers and the new luggage bins and seats as well in lightning. And we expect to deliver the first one by the end of 2026, beginning 2027.
[Operator Instructions] This concludes the question-and-answer session in English for the press.
Now we'll start the question-and-answer session in Portuguese. [Operator Instructions]
[Foreign Language]
Our first question is from Marcelo Rocha with [indiscernible].
Our next question is from Rebecca Crepaldi from Exame.
So now we're going to move on to a question in the chat.
Our next question is from Bruno Mora.
My name is Bruno Mora. I am a journalist at Agencia Brasil. How are you tackling the negotiation to go back to 0 tariffs? Is this negotiation performed through the Brazilian government or are you dealing directly with the American government?
Thank you for your question, Bruno. Both. We are still working on both fronts. We acknowledge the effort that is made, and we embrace the change that was mentioned by the American government last week. We are still working with the Brazilian government and with the American government, talking about our economic hypothesis of how advantageous this is to that country. We want them to find an option to go back to 0 tariffs in aviation. This is what we've seen for the past 45 years.
I see that Marcelo Rocha sent us his question in the chat. We now see announcements of tariffs on Brazilian products by the U.S. government. And people were worried about layoffs in Brazil in manufacturing like in São Jose dos Campos in the countryside of Sao Paulo. In addition to leaving aviation out of the tariff trends, what do you think about jobs? Is it possible that we're going to have layoffs in our industry?
Right now, we have a more manageable situation. Our tariffs, the 10% or, better said, the impact of these tariffs have been incorporated into our financial forecasts. We're keeping the guidance for this year, and we're going to deliver every single aircraft that we planned to deliver. So right now, we have no plans whatsoever to reduce our workforce because of a reduction in production.
Our next question is also in the chat. It's from [indiscernible] from the [indiscernible] newspaper. Francisco Gomes Neto, you made a personal effort in the negotiation with members of the American government regarding tariffs. Was this decisive to eliminate aircraft from the list of these tariffs? What is going to happen right now with an increasingly complicated situation with former President Bolsonaro? Do you think that Trump could increase tariffs for Brazil and include aircraft in that?
Thank you very much for your question. Embraer is about engineering. We focus on data and things that are under our control. This is what we've done from the get-go. We did careful research on the contribution that we've had towards the United States. So we saw the jobs that we created and we laid it out very clearly. We have a good impact on jobs there not only for Embraer operations, but also for the American suppliers from which we buy lots of equipment.
We put that together. We added information on investments. We added information on the importance of our aircraft in their country because our regional aircrafts are the only ones that are approved for up to 80 seats. So we compiled this information and we took it to the right people who had to see it. As I said, we have a very, very strong economic hypothesis here. And we did the same with the Brazilian government. We showed them how we contribute to Brazil and how risky it is for us to be subject to a 50% tariff.
So we're keeping course. We see other deals with other countries and aviation is going back to a 0 tariff. So we have high hopes that this is going to happen to us as well. This will allow for us to keep the journey that we had before. And we're not going to be discussing politics here. We're going to be focusing on the economy. And as I said, we have a very, very strong case to make here.
We have an audio question now from Hagel Brandon with Invest in Aeros -- Invest News. Hagel, could you please ask your question in the chat. I believe we have some kind of technical issue. Our next question is also coming from audio with Mauricio Martins from Global News.
I also have a question about tariffs. I think this is the hot topic right now. So my question is related to the supply chain. What could be the impact here? All right. So regarding Brazilian exports, we have lots of suppliers for Embraer in the U.S. But with the current 10% tariffs, and if we have other tariff wars, what could be the impact on the supply chain? And how much does Embraer rely on suppliers of inputs and parts who are located in the U.S.? How are you dealing with these suppliers so that you have a harmonious relationship, so that you don't run into issues regarding production?
Thank you for your question, Mauricio. Please ask away regarding tariffs. We were ready for it. We knew that we'd have lots of questions on tariffs. We're here for that so please feel comfortable to ask questions about this even though we have uncertainty about it.
So at the beginning of this journey, there was a lack of clarity on tariffs for suppliers. However, we've made progress in our relationship with them. We're understanding this impact or that impact. And so far, we haven't seen big impacts from tariffs on the cost of inputs. We buy lots of parts from the U.S., but also from Europe, and Asia, and Brazil. I think we are managing this well. So far, we haven't seen any impact. We still have a good relationship with them, a harmonious relationship with our main suppliers.
Our next question is from [ Hagel Gamersky ]
So on tariffs, do you have any other investments that you are planning or negotiating for the U.S. to get to a 0 tariff base? And the investments that we saw in the presentation, were they in your plan or were you negotiating them because of this exception list?
The investments that we announced had already been previously announced. But please remember it, these are investments to expand our capacity in our operations in Melbourne. This includes production of aircraft's, the finishing of aircrafts in the U.S., major investments in Dallas, in Texas, so that we're able to expand our capacity to work with commercial jets. And these investments are a foundation to support our thesis of a 0 tariff for our industry.
We did the math based on a certain volume of trade with the U.S. This is what we've been sharing with them. If they have additional tariffs and we sell fewer aircraft in the U.S., first, we're going to buy fewer parts. We're going to make fewer planes. We're going to create fewer jobs. And we're also going to have a limited ability to invest in the future. And this is going to be damaging for the American market. This is why I'm doubling down on the thesis of economic robustness. If you have tariffs for Embraer, this is going to harm the American market, too.
Are you negotiating any additional investments in the U.S. to reach a 0 tariff?
What we do have for the U.S. is the possibility of assembling KC-390 locally. This is a big investment. This is $0.5 billion. With this investment, we could create an additional 2,000 jobs in the U.S. So yes, we mentioned this as an opportunity of local investments if we have 0 tariffs.
Our next question is from Rebecca Crepaldi with Exame.
Congratulations on these results. I'm still a bit confused; I apologize. I think you mentioned this over and over again. But if you could go over this once again, I'd appreciate it. Could you please talk about the 20% impact? Because you just said that there's no impact whatsoever on the cost of inputs. However, at the same time, you said that 20% of impacts coming from tariffs are felt in your cash flow and that you expect bigger impacts in the last second half of the year. Could you please explain that? What is the actual impact of tariffs on your results?
Rebecca, this is Antonio. Let's go over this again. In our last earnings release presentation, we said that we had around 0.9% of our revenue being impacted. It's $65 million a year. 20% of that happened in the first half of the year, and the rest of that is going to happen in the second half of the year if we have 10%. So for business aviation, we pay tariffs. We don't for Commercial Aviation, and we haven't seen impact with suppliers. So the 10% has been levied. But the good news is that we have a number of initiatives to mitigate these effects with other cost reduction initiatives. This is why we're keeping our guidance for this year.
Rebecca, let me make this clear. We have around $65 million in impact this year. This is what we expect. We have realized 20% of that so far. And this comes from what we pay when we export parts into the U.S., not from when we buy parts from suppliers. Is this clear now?
Yes, it is perfectly clear.
Our next question is in the chat. We have Hagel Brandon from Invest News. I'd like to confirm the guidance for margins. I understood that you're being very cautious when it comes to the impact of the 10% tariff, inflation and the FX rate. Should we see any changes here? Also, I would like to understand the impact of this 10% tariff throughout the years. Without American content, this is not going to be exactly 10%. How much should we expect in the second half of the year?
This is Antonio speaking. Second question first, we just told Rebecca that we have $65 million expected for this year, 20% already happened. The rest is going to be realized in the third and fourth quarters. If we see a continued 10% tariff for us, this is the impact that we expect.
Regarding IR guidance, we're doing really well until Q2. We're a bit above it. Our margins have been confirmed. We think that our expenditure base is going to be a bit worse in the second half of the year because of the 80% that we are still going to have to absorb from the tariffs. We're also going to have higher inflation compared to our forecast and a worsened dollar.
We have costs in reals, so when we convert them into dollars, we have higher costs in our functioning currency. So what I would say is that we try to be consistent with our numbers. It would be risky for Embraer through so much volatility to share different numbers with our industry, but we have a good forecast if we see sustained conditions.
Our next question is from [indiscernible] with [indiscernible].
Francisco, let me change gears a bit. We have been talking about tariffs. But you have been announcing so many investments in the U.S. because of tariffs also. And I was curious regarding the types of investments that we could see in São Jose dos Campos and Taubaté [indiscernible] area, or perhaps other cities in the Paraíba Valley. Let me also take this opportunity to talk about Eve. Could you please go into details regarding the maiden flight that you should have in December? Should we see the maiden flight in our region too?
Thank you for your question, Jesse. Most of our investments are made in Brazil. You might recall that a few months ago, we announced that Embraer was going to invest BRL 20 billion by 2030. So BRL 20 billion, if you divide it by 5 and some, it will be almost close to $4 billion. And then you can compare this number with the number that we refer to when we talk about the U.S. So most of the investments, I mean, are in Taubaté and Gavião Peixoto to investments in São Jose dos Campos in terms of many enhancements capacity expansion.
And most of the investments are localized in Brazil because we -- the bulk of our operations are in Brazil. So Eve is a separate company. The plan is to have the initial flight in December. But about Eve, I think you should get further information during the conference call conducted by Eve. There is another investment that came to mind and that has to do with return to work. We are making robust investments to renovate the facilities in São Jose dos Campos, [indiscernible] to get -- to welcome our people back starting in January.
Another important investment is in Portugal for the maintenance of the GTF engines, and this will pay an important contribution to our service revenues. Just to give you a general idea, these are the investments. But as you can see, the U.S. is part of that. And this is also an important part that we are now telling those that have the decision-making power regarding tariffs.
But if you allow me, I have another question. At the beginning of the presentation in Portuguese, you said that you do not anticipate any dismissals in Brazil, mainly because of the initial adjustments referring the quotas or the tariffs. Is there any possibility going forward in case there is no change in the world economic landscape? Do you think that you would hire more people for your Brazil operation?
Our plan envisions growth in the coming years. We are growing at a rate of 2 digits year-on-year, and we are increasing production every year and the plan still stands. I mean, unless there is any drastic change to the macroeconomic scenario, just like 50% tariff in Embraer's biggest market. But now we are back to a more reasonable level. But our production plan and our revenue this year remains unchanged.
And if you look at the years post pandemic, we hired more than 5,000 people. The vast majority of them were hired in Brazil. Therefore, Embraer continues to grow, and this is the plan going forward. Eventually, if there is any drastic change in the scenario, this will not only apply to Embraer but to all of the other companies. But we have a very positive outlook.
Congrats on your results.
Thank you. With that, we conclude the Q&A session. And also, we conclude the conference call of Embraer. Thank you very much for joining us, and we wish you all a very good day.
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Embraer S.A. Sponsored ADR — Q2 2025 Earnings Call
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📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $1,8 Mrd. (+22% YoY) – bestes zweites Quartal der Firmengeschichte.
- Adjusted EBIT-Marge: 10,5% – höchster Q2-Wert in 10 Jahren.
- Backlog: $29,7 Mrd. (+40% YoY) – Book-to-bill ~2:1 (12M).
- Lieferungen: 61 Flugzeuge (+30% YoY).
- Cashflow Q2: Adjusted FCF Verbrauch $162 Mio.; Jahresziel >$200 Mio. positiv bestätigt.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Tarife & Lobby: Aktive Verhandlungen mit US-/brasilianischen Behörden; Ziel Rückkehr zu 0% Zöllen; Embraer bietet zusätzliche US-Investitionen ($500 Mio.) und Lokalisierungsoptionen (KC‑390).
- Produktivität: Produktions‑Leveling zeigt Effizienz‑ und Durchsatzsteigerungen (KC‑390, Executive‑Line), niedrigere Fehlerkosten.
- Kapitalallokation: Fokus auf Executive Aviation und Services & Support (höhere Renditen); Investitionen in US‑Standorte (Melbourne, Texas) geplant.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- 2025 Guidance: Umsatz $7,0–7,5 Mrd., adjusted EBIT‑Marge 7,5–8,3%, adjusted FCF > $200 Mio.; Lieferungen Commercial 77–85, Executive 145–155.
- Tarif‑Effekt: Gesamtjahres‑Impact bei ~$65 Mio. (10% Szenario); ~20% dieses Betrags bereits realisiert, Rest in H2 erwartet.
- Risiken: FX‑Volatilität, höhere Inflation und anhaltende Zollunsicherheit könnten H2‑Margen belasten.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- H2‑Risiko: Analysten hinterfragten, ob Guidance wegen Zoll‑ und FX‑Effekten erhöhtes Abwärtsrisiko hat; Management hält Guidance derzeit für konservativ.
- Azul‑Fälle: Rechnungsstellung/Übergabe einiger Flugzeuge verzögert (Restrukturierung/Leasing), erklärt Teil des Working‑Capital‑Anstiegs.
- Eve & Struktur: Diskussion zu Wert von Eve (Maiden‑Flight geplant Dez.); Management sieht derzeit keinen Plan zur Abspaltung, betont Synergien.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starkes operatives Quartal mit Rekordumsatz, Margen und Backlog zeigt robuste Nachfrage und Produktivitätseffekte. Kurzfristig bleibt die Kursrichtung jedoch von Tarif‑, FX‑ und Cashflow‑Timing‑Risiken abhängig; Entwarnung für Upside kommt nur mit klarer Zoll‑Lösung.
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Umsatz
Der Umsatz stellt die Summe aller Einnahmen eines Unternehmens z. B. für dessen Produkte oder Dienstleistungen dar.
Umsatz (TTM) einfach erklärtDirekte Kosten
Direkte Kosten sind die Kosten, die direkt im Zusammenhang mit der Herstellung des Produkts oder der Dienstleistung entstehen.
Bruttoertrag
Der Bruttoertrag gibt an, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellkosten im Unternehmen verbleibt. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von der Bruttomarge (engl. Gross Margin).
Brutto Marge einfach erklärtVertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten
Die Vertriebs- & Verwaltungskosten (engl. Selling, General & Administrative expenses, kurz SG&A) beinhalten alle Aufwände für Marketing und den Verkauf sowie die allgemeine Verwaltung des Unternehmens.
Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten
Die Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten (engl. research & development costs, kurz R&D) geben Auskunft darüber, wie viel das Unternehmen in die Forschung und die Entwicklung seiner Produkte investiert. Vor allem prozentual vom Umsatz und im Vergleich zu direkten Wettbewerbern sind die Kosten interessant.
EBITDA
Das EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization) ist der Gewinn des Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von der EBITDA-Marge.
Abschreibungen
Abschreibungen stellen Wertminderungen von Vermögensgegenständen des Unternehmens dar (z.B. durch Abnutzung von Maschinen).
EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis)
Das EBIT (engl. Earnings Before Interest and Taxes) ist der Gewinn des Unternehmens vor Zinsen und Steuern, das auch als operatives Ergebnis bezeichnet wird. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von
der EBIT-Marge.
Nettogewinn
Der Nettogewinn stellt den Gewinn oder Verlust nach Abzug aller Kosten dar.
Nettogewinn einfach erklärtaktien.guide Premium
| Jun '25 |
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%
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| Umsatz | 7.931 7.931 |
41 %
41 %
100 %
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| - Direkte Kosten | 6.465 6.465 |
38 %
38 %
82 %
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| Bruttoertrag | 1.466 1.466 |
51 %
51 %
18 %
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| - Vertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten | 625 625 |
17 %
17 %
8 %
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| - Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten | 62 62 |
0 %
0 %
1 %
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| EBITDA | 1.158 1.158 |
88 %
88 %
15 %
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| - Abschreibungen | 288 288 |
1 %
1 %
4 %
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| EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis) EBIT | 870 870 |
167 %
167 %
11 %
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| Nettogewinn | 426 426 |
12 %
12 %
5 %
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Angaben in Millionen USD.
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Embraer SA beschäftigt sich mit der Konstruktion, der Herstellung und dem Verkauf von Flugzeugen und Flugzeugteilen für den zivilen, militärischen und ausführenden Luftfahrtsektor. Sie ist in den folgenden Segmenten tätig: Kommerzielle Luftfahrt, Verteidigung und Sicherheit, Executive Aviation und andere. Das Segment Kommerzielle Luftfahrt befasst sich mit der Entwicklung, Herstellung und dem Verkauf von Verkehrsflugzeugen sowie mit der Bereitstellung von Unterstützungsdiensten für die regionale Luftfahrt und Flugzeugleasing. Das Segment Verteidigung und Sicherheit befasst sich mit der Forschung, Entwicklung, Produktion, Modifikation und Unterstützung von Verteidigungs- und Sicherheitsflugzeugen sowie mit anderen integrierten Produkten und Lösungen einschließlich Satelliten und Informations- und Kommunikationssystemen. Das Segment Executive Aviation befasst sich mit der Entwicklung, Herstellung und dem Verkauf von Geschäftsflugzeugen. Das Segment Andere bezieht sich auf die Lieferung von Strukturteilen und Hydrauliksystemen sowie die Produktion von landwirtschaftlichen Sprühgeräten. Das Unternehmen wurde am 19. August 1969 von Ozires Silva gegründet und hat seinen Hauptsitz in Sao Jose dos Campos, Brasilien.
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| Hauptsitz | Brasilien |
| CEO | Francisco Neto |
| Mitarbeiter | 20.923 |
| Gegründet | 1969 |
| Webseite | embraer.com |


