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📊 Peer Group
📈 Was ist das?
Die Peer Group sind die Unternehmen mit dem ähnlichsten Geschäftsmodell. Sie dienen als Vergleichsmaßstab, um eine Aktie einzuordnen.
🧮 Wie wird sie ausgewählt?
Nach Ähnlichkeit des Geschäftsmodells, also Unternehmen aus derselben Branche, mit vergleichbaren Produkten und einer ähnlichen Kundengruppe. Nur so vergleichst du Äpfel mit Äpfeln.
🏛️ Wofür ist sie wichtig?
Ob eine Aktie günstig oder teuer ist, lässt sich am ehesten im Vergleich beurteilen. Ein KGV von 18 oder ein EV/FCF von 20 wirkt je nach Maßstab günstig oder teuer. Die Peer Group liefert dabei den treffsichersten Maßstab: Unternehmen mit ähnlichem Geschäftsmodell, die denselben Bedingungen unterliegen.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
Liegt eine Kennzahl unter dem Peer-Durchschnitt, ist die Aktie relativ günstiger bewertet, über dem Durchschnitt entsprechend teurer. Ein Abschlag zur Peer Group kann eine Chance sein, aber auch einen Grund haben (zum Beispiel geringeres Wachstum). Der Vergleich ist ein Startpunkt, kein Urteil.
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📘 Marktkapitalisierung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Marktkapitalisierung zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen laut Börse aktuell wert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft Unternehmen in Größenklassen (Large, Mid, Small Cap) einzuordnen und gibt Hinweise auf Marktmacht und Stabilität.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Große Unternehmen gelten als stabiler, zahlen oft Dividenden, wachsen aber langsamer.
- Kleine Firmen können stärker wachsen, sind aber schwankungsanfälliger.
- Die Marktkapitalisierung ist ein guter Indikator für Unternehmensgröße, aber kein Maß für Unter- oder Überbewertung.
📘 Enterprise Value (Unternehmenswert)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Enterprise Value (EV) zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich kostet, wenn man es komplett übernehmen würde – inklusive Schulden und abzüglich Cash.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
(= Marktkapitalisierung + Nettoverschuldung)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der EV ist eine realistischere Bewertungsbasis als die Marktkapitalisierung, da er die Kapitalstruktur berücksichtigt. Er ist Grundlage für Kennzahlen wie EV/FCF oder EV/Sales.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Der Enterprise Value zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich wert ist – unabhängig davon, wie es finanziert ist.
- Er ist besonders wichtig für professionelle Investoren, da er eine objektivere Grundlage für Bewertungsvergleiche bietet als die Marktkapitalisierung allein.
- Ein Unternehmen mit hoher Verschuldung erscheint im EV teurer, eines mit viel Cash günstiger – auch wenn sie an der Börse gleich viel wert sind.
📘 Nettoverschuldung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettoverschuldung zeigt, wie viele Schulden nach Abzug des verfügbaren Cashs tatsächlich verbleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen von Fremdkapital abhängig ist – und wie gut es in der Lage ist, seine Schulden kurzfristig zu bedienen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige oder negative Nettoverschuldung bedeutet hohe finanzielle Stabilität.
- Unternehmen mit viel Cash und geringer Verschuldung sind besser gerüstet für Krisen.
- Eine hohe Nettoverschuldung erhöht das Risiko – besonders bei steigenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
📘 Cash
📈 Was ist das?
Der Cashbestand zeigt, wie viele liquide Mittel einem Unternehmen sofort zur Verfügung stehen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Er gibt Auskunft über die finanzielle Flexibilität: Ein hoher Cashbestand ermöglicht Investitionen, Rückkäufe oder Krisenresistenz.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Cashbestand zeigt finanzielle Stärke und Handlungsspielraum.
- Cash kann für Investitionen, Schuldentilgung oder Aktienrückkäufe genutzt werden.
- Allerdings: Zu viel ungenutztes Kapital kann auch auf mangelnde Investitionsideen hinweisen.
📘 Anzahl ausstehender Aktien
📈 Was ist das?
Die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien gibt an, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell im Umlauf sind und von Investoren gehalten werden.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die Grundlage für viele Kennzahlen wie Gewinn je Aktie (EPS), Marktkapitalisierung oder KGV.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Je weniger Aktien im Umlauf sind, desto höher fällt z. B. der Gewinn je Aktie aus – wichtig für Bewertung und Dividendenrendite.
- Aktienrückkäufe verringern die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien – und steigern den Wert je Aktie.
- Kapitalerhöhungen haben den gegenteiligen Effekt: mehr Aktien → Verwässerung der bestehenden Anteile.
📘 Kurs-Gewinn-Verhältnis (KGV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KGV zeigt, wie oft der Gewinn pro Aktie im aktuellen Aktienkurs enthalten ist – also wie „teuer“ eine Aktie im Verhältnis zum Gewinn ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KGV gehört zu den bekanntesten Bewertungskennzahlen. Es hilft Anlegern einzuschätzen, ob eine Aktie im Vergleich zu ihrem Gewinn eher günstig oder teuer erscheint.
🧮 Berechnung
📊 KGV (TTM) = bezogen auf den Gewinn der letzten 12 Monate (Trailing Twelve Months):🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KGV kann auf eine günstige Bewertung hindeuten – oder auf Probleme im Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein hohes KGV kann Wachstumserwartungen widerspiegeln – oder eine überbewertete Aktie.
📘 Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis (KUV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KUV zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen – unabhängig vom Gewinn.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KUV ist besonders bei wachstumsstarken oder noch nicht profitablen Unternehmen hilfreich. Es zeigt, wie hoch der Umsatz an der Börse bewertet wird.
🧮 Berechnung
Marktkapitalisierung = 195,81 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 43,94 Mrd. $
Marktkapitalisierung = 195,81 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 46,68 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KUV kann auf Unterbewertung hindeuten – oder auf schwache Margen.
- Ein hohes KUV kann hohe Erwartungen widerspiegeln – oder übermäßigen Optimismus.
- Besonders sinnvoll bei Wachstumsunternehmen, bei denen der Gewinn oder Free Cashflow (noch) keine Aussagekraft hat.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Umsatz (EV/Sales)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/Sales zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen, wenn man auch Schulden und Cash berücksichtigt – es ist eine kapitalstrukturbereinigte Version des KUV.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl eignet sich besonders für den Vergleich von Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Verschuldung – sie zeigt, wie teuer ein Unternehmen tatsächlich im Verhältnis zum Umsatz ist.
🧮 Berechnung
Enterprise Value = 223,25 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 43,94 Mrd. $
Enterprise Value = 223,25 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 46,68 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EV/Sales ist neutral gegenüber der Kapitalstruktur und eignet sich gut für Unternehmensvergleiche.
- Ein niedriges Verhältnis kann auf eine günstig bewertete Aktie hindeuten – ein hohes Verhältnis auf hohe Erwartungen oder Überbewertung.
- Besonders nützlich bei wachstumsstarken, noch nicht profitablen Firmen.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Free Cashflow (EV/FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/FCF zeigt, wie viele Jahre es dauern würde, bis ein Unternehmen seinen Unternehmenswert durch freien Cashflow „zurückverdient”.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Unternehmen auf Basis ihrer tatsächlichen Cash-Erträge zu bewerten – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder buchhalterischem Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges EV/FCF deutet auf eine günstige Bewertung bei starker Cashgenerierung hin.
- Ein hohes EV/FCF kann entweder auf Optimismus oder auf temporär schwachen Cashflow hindeuten.
- Besonders hilfreich bei reifen, profitablen Unternehmen mit stabilen Cashflows.
📘 Kurs-Buchwert-Verhältnis (KBV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KBV zeigt, wie hoch der Marktwert eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zu seinem bilanziellen Eigenkapital ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KBV ist besonders bei Substanzwerten (z. B. Banken, Industrie) relevant. Es hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob ein Unternehmen unter oder über seinem buchhalterischen Vermögen bewertet ist.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein KBV unter 1 kann auf Unterbewertung oder schwache Rentabilität hindeuten.
- Ein KBV über 1 zeigt, dass der Markt dem Unternehmen Mehrwert über den Buchwert hinaus zuschreibt (z. B. Marken, Patente, Wachstum).
- Das KBV eignet sich besonders gut für Unternehmen mit stabilen, materiellen Vermögenswerten.
📘 Dividende je Aktie
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividende je Aktie zeigt, wie viel Geld ein Unternehmen pro Aktie an seine Aktionäre ausschüttet – typischerweise jährlich oder quartalsweise.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die absolute Größe der Auszahlung je Aktie – wichtig für alle, die regelmäßige Erträge suchen oder Dividendenstrategien verfolgen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile oder wachsende Dividende je Aktie ist oft ein Zeichen für ein solides Geschäftsmodell.
- Die Dividende je Aktie allein sagt aber nichts über die Rendite – dafür ist auch der Aktienkurs relevant (→ Dividendenrendite).
- Langfristig steigende Dividenden sind oft ein sehr gutes Merkmal (z. B. Dividenden-Aristokraten).
📘 Dividendenrendite
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividendenrendite zeigt, wie hoch die Dividende eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zum Aktienkurs ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft dabei, Dividendenaktien vergleichbar zu machen – unabhängig vom absoluten Auszahlungsbetrag.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile Dividendenrendite kann auf verlässliche Ausschüttungen hinweisen.
- Ein Vergleich der 1J- und 5J-Rendite hilft zu erkennen, ob das Dividendenwachstum mit dem Kurswachstum Schritt hält.
- Eine niedrige Rendite ist nicht zwingend negativ – sie kann auf starkes Kurswachstum hindeuten.
📘 Dividendenwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Dividendenwachstum zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen seine Dividende je Aktie über die Zeit gesteigert hat.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
5J: durchschnittliche jährliche Wachstumsrate (CAGR)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Stetig steigende Dividenden gelten als Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und Aktionärsorientierung – besonders interessant für langfristige Investoren.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein stabiles Dividendenwachstum ist ein Zeichen nachhaltiger Ertragskraft.
- Ein hohes Dividendenwachstum kann ein erheblicher Hebel deiner Rendite sein:
- Wenn ein Unternehmen z. B. 1 € Dividende zahlt und diese über 5 Jahre jährlich um 15 % erhöht, bekommst du im 5. Jahr bereits 2 € je Aktie – doppelt so viel wie zu Beginn!
📘 Ausschüttungsquote (Payout)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Ausschüttungsquote zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Unternehmensgewinns (pro Aktie) als Dividende an die Aktionäre ausgeschüttet wird.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Quote hilft einzuschätzen, ob eine Dividende auf Dauer tragfähig ist – besonders im Verhältnis zum erzielten Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige Ausschüttungsquote bedeutet: Das Unternehmen behält einen größeren Teil des Gewinns für Investitionen – typisch für Wachstumsunternehmen.
- Eine moderate Quote (z. B. 25–50 %) steht oft für ein gesundes Gleichgewicht zwischen Ausschüttung und Zukunftsinvestitionen.
- Hohe Ausschüttungsquoten können attraktiv wirken, sind aber riskanter, wenn die Gewinne schwanken oder sinken.
📘 Dividendensteigerungen in Folge (Erhöhungen)
📈 Was ist das?
Diese Kennzahl zeigt, wie viele Jahre in Folge ein Unternehmen seine Dividende pro Aktie erhöht hat – ohne Kürzung oder Aussetzung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein langer Track Record kontinuierlicher Erhöhungen spricht für Verlässlichkeit, solide Finanzen und aktionärsfreundliche Unternehmenspolitik.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein langer Zeitraum mit Dividendensteigerungen stärkt das Vertrauen – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Solche Unternehmen gelten als verlässlich und planbar für Einkommensinvestoren.
- Je länger die Serie, desto stärker das Commitment gegenüber den Aktionären.
📘 Umsatz
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen insgesamt mit seinen Produkten und Dienstleistungen verdient – also den Bruttoerlös vor Abzug von Kosten.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Umsatz ist eine der zentralen Kennzahlen zur Einschätzung der Unternehmensgröße, Marktstellung und Wachstumskraft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein wachsender Umsatz zeigt eine steigende Nachfrage und kann ein guter Frühindikator für Gewinnsteigerungen sein.
- Vergleiche von aktuellem und erwartetem Umsatz geben Hinweise auf das Marktumfeld und Analystenerwartungen.
- Wichtig: Starker Umsatz allein genügt nicht – auch Margen und Profitabilität zählen.
📘 EBITDA
📈 Was ist das?
EBITDA steht für „Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens, bereinigt um bilanztechnische und finanzierungsbedingte Effekte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBITDA ist eine verbreitete Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der operativen Leistungsfähigkeit – insbesondere bei kapitalintensiven Unternehmen oder im internationalen Vergleich.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes oder wachsendes EBITDA spricht für starke operative Erträge – unabhängig von Bilanzierung oder Steuerlast.
- EBITDA ist besonders nützlich, um Unternehmen branchenübergreifend zu vergleichen.
- Wichtig: EBITDA ist keine offizielle Gewinnkennzahl – Abschreibungen und Finanzierungskosten werden ausgeklammert.
📘 EBIT
📈 Was ist das?
EBIT steht für „Earnings Before Interest and Taxes“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen und Steuern. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Finanzierungs- und Steueraufwand.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBIT ist eine zentrale Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der Profitabilität aus dem Kerngeschäft – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder Steuersystem.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes EBIT deutet auf ein profitables Kerngeschäft hin – vor Zinslasten oder steuerlichen Effekten.
- Es erlaubt objektivere Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Finanzierung.
- Im Vergleich mit EBITDA zeigt EBIT bereits den Einfluss von Abschreibungen auf das operative Ergebnis.
📘 Nettogewinn
📈 Was ist das?
Der Nettogewinn ist der verbleibende Jahresüberschuss (oder -fehlbetrag) eines Unternehmens – nach Abzug aller Kosten, Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Nettogewinn ist die zentrale Erfolgskennzahl – er zeigt, wie profitabel ein Unternehmen nach allen Kosten tatsächlich arbeitet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein steigender Nettogewinn zeigt, dass das Unternehmen effizient wirtschaftet – trotz aller Kosten.
- Die Entwicklung des Gewinns beeinflusst z. B. direkt das KGV und weitere Kennzahlen.
- Im Zeitverlauf lässt sich ablesen, wie stabil und profitabel ein Geschäftsmodell wirklich ist.
📘 Free Cashflow (FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow gibt Aufschluss über die echte finanzielle Stärke eines Unternehmens – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln. Er zeigt, wie viel Spielraum für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldenabbau besteht.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
FCF reflects a company’s real financial strength – regardless of accounting profits. It shows how much flexibility a company has for dividends, share buybacks, or debt reduction.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow bedeutet, dass ein Unternehmen echte Finanzkraft besitzt – unabhängig vom bilanzierten Gewinn.
- Er ist oft die solideste Grundlage für nachhaltige Dividenden und Aktienrückkäufe.
- Sinkender FCF kann ein Warnsignal sein – auch wenn der Gewinn stabil aussieht.
📘 Umsatzwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Umsatzwachstum zeigt, wie stark sich die Erlöse eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert haben – tatsächlich (TTM) und auf Prognosebasis (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (Umsatz erwartet ÷ Umsatz Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein wachsender Umsatz ist ein zentrales Signal für steigende Nachfrage, Geschäftsausweitung und Marktanteilsgewinne – besonders bei Wachstumsunternehmen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachstum ist der Motor langfristiger Wertsteigerung – besonders bei Technologie- und Wachstumsaktien.
- Wichtig ist nicht nur das aktuelle Wachstum, sondern auch dessen Nachhaltigkeit.
- Prognosen zeigen, ob Analysten weiteres Potenzial erwarten – oder eine Verlangsamung.
📘 EBITDA-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBITDA-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBITDA ÷ EBITDA Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein steigendes EBITDA ist ein Zeichen für verbesserte operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Finanzierungsstruktur oder Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Starkes EBITDA-Wachstum signalisiert operative Effizienz und Skalierung – besonders relevant in Wachstumsphasen.
- EBITDA-Wachstum ist ein Frühindikator für Margen- und Gewinnentwicklung – sollte aber stets im Zusammenhang mit Umsatz und EBIT betrachtet werden.
📘 EBIT Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBIT-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens (nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern) im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gewachsen ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBIT ÷ EBIT Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein direkter Indikator für die wirtschaftliche Entwicklung des operativen Geschäfts – unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (Abschreibungen).
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Steigendes EBIT signalisiert wachsende operative Rentabilität – auch unter Berücksichtigung von Abschreibungen.
- Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein wichtiges Maß zur Beurteilung von Geschäftsmodellen mit hohen Investitionskosten.
- Im Zusammenspiel mit Umsatz- und EBITDA-Wachstum ergibt sich ein umfassendes Bild zur operativen Entwicklung.
📘 Nettogewinn-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Nettogewinn-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark der Jahresüberschuss eines Unternehmens gegenüber dem Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist – sowohl tatsächlich (TTM) als auch auf Basis von Prognosen (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwarteter Nettogewinn ÷ Nettogewinn Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Der erwartete Wert basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Gewinn ist die entscheidende Ergebnisgröße für ein Unternehmen. Ein wachsender Nettogewinn deutet auf steigende Effizienz, stabile Kostenkontrolle und nachhaltige Ertragskraft hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachsender Nettogewinn stärkt die Bewertung, Dividendenfähigkeit und Kursfantasie.
- Stagnierender oder rückläufiger Gewinn trotz Umsatzwachstum kann auf Margendruck hinweisen.
📘 Free Cashflow-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Free-Cashflow-Wachstum zeigt, wie sich der freie Mittelzufluss eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert hat – also der Betrag, der nach allen operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Free Cashflow ist der echte, verfügbare Geldzufluss. Wachstum in diesem Bereich ist ein Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und steigende Flexibilität bei Dividenden, Rückkäufen oder Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Sinkender Free Cashflow kann auf steigende Investitionen, höhere Kosten oder stagnierende operative Erträge hindeuten.
- Besonders bei Dividendenwerten ist das FCF-Wachstum wichtig – denn Dividenden werden letztlich aus dem verfügbaren Cash gezahlt.
- Ein negativer Trend sollte genauer analysiert werden – er ist nicht zwangsläufig schlecht, aber potenziell ein Warnsignal.
📘 Bruttomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Bruttomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellungskosten (Material, Produktion) als Bruttogewinn übrig bleibt – also der „Rohgewinn“ eines Unternehmens.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Auch: Bruttomarge = Bruttogewinn ÷ Umsatz × 100
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Bruttomarge gibt Aufschluss über die Profitabilität eines Produkts oder Geschäftsmodells vor Fixkosten, Steuern und Zinsen. Sie zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen produzieren oder einkaufen kann.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Bruttomarge deutet auf starke Preissetzungsmacht und effiziente Herstellung hin.
- Sinkende Bruttomargen können auf Kostensteigerungen oder Preisdruck hindeuten.
- Besonders im Vergleich zu Wettbewerbern liefert die Bruttomarge wertvolle Einblicke in die Geschäftsqualität.
📘 EBITDA-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBITDA-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz als operativer Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) übrig bleibt. Sie misst die operative Effizienz – ohne Verzerrungen durch Finanzierung oder Buchwerte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBITDA-Marge hilft zu verstehen, wie viel operativer Gewinn ein Unternehmen aus jedem Euro Umsatz erzielt – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder steuerlichem Umfeld.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBITDA-Marge zeigt starke operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Bilanzierungseffekten.
- Die Marge ermöglicht gute Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen und Branchen.
- Ein stabiler oder wachsender Wert kann auf effiziente Kostenkontrolle und Skalierbarkeit hindeuten.
📘 EBIT-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBIT-Marge zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Umsatzes als operativer Gewinn nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern übrig bleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBIT-Marge misst die operative Ertragskraft eines Unternehmens unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (z. B. Maschinen, Anlagen). Sie eignet sich gut zum Vergleich von Geschäftsmodellen mit unterschiedlich hohen Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBIT-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen auch nach Abschreibungen effizient arbeitet.
- Sie ist besonders relevant in kapitalintensiven Branchen.
- Langfristig stabile oder steigende Margen sind ein Zeichen wirtschaftlicher Stärke und Preissetzungsmacht.
📘 Nettomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz am Ende als „Reingewinn“ übrig bleibt – also nach Abzug aller Kosten, Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Nettomarge gibt an, wie effizient ein Unternehmen über alle Stufen hinweg wirtschaftet. Sie zeigt, wie viel Gewinn tatsächlich je Euro Umsatz übrig bleibt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Nettomarge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nicht nur operativ stark ist, sondern auch seine Finanzierung und Steuerbelastung im Griff hat.
- Vergleiche mit Wettbewerbern geben Einblicke in die wirtschaftliche Qualität.
- Sinkende Nettomargen trotz Umsatzwachstum können ein Warnsignal sein – etwa für steigende Kosten oder sinkende Effizienz.
📘 Free Cashflow Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug aller operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen tatsächlich als freier Mittelzufluss übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Marge misst die echte Liquidität, die ein Unternehmen erwirtschaftet – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder Abschreibungen. Sie ist besonders relevant für Dividenden, Rückkäufe und Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nachhaltig liquide Mittel erwirtschaftet.
- Sie ist ein starkes Signal für finanzielle Stabilität und Ausschüttungspotenzial.
- Wichtig ist der langfristige Trend – sinkende Werte können auf steigende Investitionen oder rückläufige operative Effizienz hindeuten.
📘 Eigenkapitalquote
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalquote zeigt, wie hoch der Anteil des Eigenkapitals an der Bilanzsumme eines Unternehmens ist – also wie stark es sich aus eigenen Mitteln finanziert.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote steht für finanzielle Stabilität, Krisenfestigkeit und gute Bonität. Sie ist besonders relevant bei der Beurteilung der Verschuldung.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote signalisiert finanzielle Stabilität – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf ein höheres Risiko oder eine aggressive Verschuldung hinweisen.
- Wichtig: Die Eigenkapitalquote sollte immer gemeinsam mit der Eigenkapitalrendite betrachtet werden. Nur so lässt sich beurteilen, ob ein Unternehmen nicht nur solide, sondern auch effizient wirtschaftet.
📘 Eigenkapitalrendite (ROE)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen mit dem Kapital seiner Aktionäre arbeitet – also wie viel Gewinn es pro Euro Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite ist eine zentrale Rentabilitätskennzahl. Sie hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob das Unternehmen eine attraktive Verzinsung auf das eingesetzte Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalrendite spricht für ein starkes, effizientes Geschäftsmodell.
- Besonders interessant ist sie bei kapitalintensiven Firmen oder solchen mit hoher Eigenkapitalquote.
- Wichtig: Ein sehr hoher ROE kann auch auf hohe Schulden hinweisen – daher sollte sie immer im Kontext mit der Eigenkapitalquote betrachtet werden.
📘 Return on Capital Employed (ROCE)
📈 Was ist das?
ROCE misst die Gesamtrentabilität eines Unternehmens – also wie effizient es das eingesetzte Kapital (Eigen- und Fremdkapital) zur Gewinnerzielung nutzt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Das eingesetzte Kapital ist das gesamte betriebsnotwendige Kapital, unabhängig von der Finanzierungsquelle.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROCE eignet sich besonders gut für den Vergleich unterschiedlich finanzierter Unternehmen. Es zeigt, wie effektiv ein Unternehmen Kapital investiert – unabhängig von der Kapitalstruktur.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROCE zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen sein Kapital effizient einsetzt – unabhängig davon, ob es durch Eigen- oder Fremdkapital finanziert ist.
- Je höher der ROCE im Vergleich zu ähnlichen Unternehmen, desto mehr Wert schafft das Unternehmen mit seinem investierten Kapital.
- Besonders wichtig ist der ROCE bei Firmen mit hohen Investitionen – z. B. in Industrie, Energie oder Infrastruktur.
📘 Return on Invested Capital (ROIC)
📈 Was ist das?
ROIC zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen das Kapital investiert, das langfristig im operativen Geschäft gebunden ist – unabhängig davon, ob es aus Eigen- oder Fremdkapital stammt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
- NOPAT = „Net Operating Profit After Taxes“
- Investiertes Kapital = operatives Vermögen abzüglich nicht-verzinster Schulden
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROIC ist eine der präzisesten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung der Kapitalrendite – besonders im Vergleich zur Eigenkapitalrendite, weil es Verzerrungen durch Schulden vermeidet. Er zeigt, ob ein Unternehmen Mehrwert für alle Kapitalgeber schafft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROIC zeigt, wie gut ein Unternehmen mit dem tatsächlich investierten (betriebsnotwendigen) Kapital wirtschaftet.
- Im Unterschied zu ROCE wird nur Kapital betrachtet, das wirklich zur Finanzierung operativer Aktivitäten dient – und verzinst werden muss.
- Besonders hilfreich, um die Kapitalrendite von Unternehmen mit viel „überschüssigem“ Kapital oder zinsfreien Verbindlichkeiten realistisch zu vergleichen.
📘 Verschuldungsgrad (Leverage Ratio)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Verschuldungsgrad zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen durch verzinsliche Schulden (z. B. Kredite und Anleihen) im Verhältnis zum Eigenkapital finanziert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Kennzahl hilft, das finanzielle Risiko und die Abhängigkeit von Fremdkapital zu beurteilen. Ein hoher Verschuldungsgrad kann die Eigenkapitalrendite steigern – birgt aber auch erhöhte Risiken bei Zinsanstiegen oder Liquiditätsengpässen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Verschuldungsgrad steht für finanzielle Stabilität und Unabhängigkeit.
- Ein hoher Wert kann auf erhöhte Risiken hinweisen – insbesondere bei schwankenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
- Wichtig: Immer im Kontext zur Branche und Kapitalintensität bewerten.
📘 Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS)
📈 Was ist das?
Das Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) zeigt, wie viel Gewinn auf eine einzelne Aktie entfällt – und ist eine der wichtigsten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung von Unternehmen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die verwässerte Aktienanzahl berücksichtigt auch potenzielle neue Aktien, etwa durch Optionen, Wandelanleihen oder andere Umtauschrechte.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EPS bildet die Basis für viele Bewertungskennzahlen wie KGV, PEG oder Payout Ratio. Es macht den Gewinn für Aktionäre vergleichbar – unabhängig von der Unternehmensgröße.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EPS hilft, die Profitabilität pro Aktie zu erfassen – und ist besonders wichtig im Zeitvergleich oder im Vergleich mit Analystenschätzungen.
- Steigendes EPS kann ein Zeichen für stabiles Wachstum oder Aktienrückkäufe sein.
- Wichtig: Verwende verwässertes EPS für realistische Bewertungen – besonders bei stark aktienbasierten Vergütungssystemen.
📘 Free Cashflow je Aktie (FCF je Aktie)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow je Aktie zeigt, wie viel freier Mittelzufluss einem Unternehmen pro Aktie zur Verfügung steht – nach Investitionen, aber vor Dividenden oder Schuldentilgung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der FCF je Aktie zeigt, wie viel liquide Mittel pro Aktie tatsächlich im Unternehmen verbleiben – wichtig für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldentilgung. Im Gegensatz zum Gewinn ist er schwerer manipulierbar und daher besonders aussagekräftig.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow je Aktie ist ein Zeichen für hohe finanzielle Flexibilität.
- Er zeigt, wie viel Kapital ein Unternehmen effektiv einsetzen oder ausschütten kann.
- Besonders relevant für dividendenstarke Unternehmen oder solche mit starker Kapitalrendite.
📘 Short Interest
📈 Was ist das?
Short Interest zeigt, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell leerverkauft wurden – also von Investoren geliehen und verkauft, in der Erwartung fallender Kurse.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Der Wert zeigt den Anteil der Aktien, der aktuell auf fallende Kurse spekuliert wird.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Short Interest dient als Stimmungsindikator: Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Skepsis oder negative Erwartungen gegenüber dem Unternehmen hin – kann aber auch zu einem „Short Squeeze“ führen, wenn der Kurs plötzlich steigt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Short Interest deutet auf Vertrauen in das Unternehmen hin.
- Ein hoher Wert kann ein Warnsignal sein – oder eine Chance, wenn sich die Stimmung dreht.
- Besonders spannend in volatilen Märkten oder vor wichtigen Quartalszahlen.
📘 Employees
📈 Was ist das?
Die Mitarbeiteranzahl zeigt, wie viele Personen ein Unternehmen weltweit beschäftigt – ein Indikator für Größe, Struktur und Geschäftsmodell.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft bei der Einschätzung von Skaleneffekten, Effizienz und Personalkosten. Zusammen mit Umsatz und Gewinn lassen sich Kennzahlen wie Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ableiten.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Viele Mitarbeiter bedeuten große operative Komplexität – aber auch hohes Umsatzpotenzial.
- Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ist ein wichtiger Indikator für Effizienz.
- Besonders spannend bei stark wachsenden Tech- oder Industrieunternehmen.
📘 Umsatz je Mitarbeiter
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz je Mitarbeiter zeigt, wie viel Erlös ein Unternehmen durchschnittlich pro Beschäftigtem erwirtschaftet – eine Kennzahl für Effizienz und Produktivität.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die Mitarbeiterzahl stammt in der Regel aus dem letzten verfügbaren Jahresbericht.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Geschäftsmodelle zu vergleichen – insbesondere zwischen arbeitsintensiven und technologiegetriebenen Unternehmen. Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Automatisierung, Effizienz oder hohen Wertschöpfungsanteil hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Umsatz je Mitarbeiter spricht für ein skalierbares und margenstarkes Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf arbeitsintensive Prozesse oder geringere Wertschöpfung hinweisen.
- Besonders hilfreich beim Vergleich von Tech- vs. Industrieunternehmen.
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1. Management Discussion
Please welcome to the stage, EVP, Global Investor Relations, Mark Murphy.
Thank you. Welcome, everyone. Great to be here. Look at the energy in this room. Love it. Love it. As mentioned, I am Mark Murphy, EVP of Global Investor Relations with Salesforce. We have just a fantastic Investor Day lined up for you. I want to start by thanking everyone in this room. We are so grateful to you for your time and attention. We hope you're going to make the most of this unbelievable event by getting out there and engaging with customers and partners, ask them anything you want, ask them what's changing, ask them how this transformation is occurring for them.
This is at least my 20th Dreamforce. If you can believe that, I've kind of lost count, but it's at least 20. And it's just unbelievable to be here and to be on this side of the room for the first time. It means so much to me. And as I reflect back on having been here through 20 Dreamforces, what is actually amazing is what has not changed at all. The location hasn't changed. We're still here in San Francisco and Moscone Center. The keynote is in the same room. The founders haven't changed. We have Marc, we have Parker sitting right over here. They're going to be on stage later today. The energy level hasn't changed.
At the beginning of the keynote, the Hawaiian ceremony hasn't changed. I think a lot of the jokes that get made have not changed somehow in 20 years. What has changed is the technology, and the technology has changed quite a bit over the summer. There's a new ability to unlock trapped value. That has legged up in a pretty exponential way in the last couple of months.
And so because of that, we're going to have a totally different structure to the Analyst Day. It's going to be unlike other Analyst Days that you have seen. We are going to be opening up laptops, and we're just going to be showing you live this kind of transformation that is happening. If we're going to be trying to show you what's possible, we're also going to have many more customers on stage. We're going to have Siemens. We're going to have Adecco, and we're actually going to have Anthropic on stage toward the end of this event.
One more thing that has not changed in the last 20 years is the legal disclaimer. And so I'm not going to read it to you, but we're going to make some forward-looking statements that are subject to change. And we would strongly encourage you to refer to our most recent SEC filings, including 10-Qs and 10-Ks. So this agenda is going to be fast and efficient. We're going to really fly through this. We're going to start with Patrick and Rohan. They're going to go a lot deeper on the technology.
We are then going to move to the go-to-market execution engine. We're going to have Miguel and Alexa for that section. And then batting cleanup, we're going to have Robin with the financial framework for this Agentic opportunity. After that, Marc is going to join us, and Marc will be on stage, and we will have a Q&A with the full leadership team for as long as they want to go at the end. And after that, we're going to have an investor reception and demos. And that's actually going to be right outside of this room.
So with that, I'm going to hand it over to Patrick, who is President of Applications and Marketing. Patrick, welcome.
All right. Thanks, everybody. Does anybody want to take any bets on whether this agenda is fast and efficient, as Mark put it? Because I'll be happy to take a couple of bets. I think I know where. But that's okay. Okay. So I'm psyched to be here with you all today. Don't look at me like that, Miguel. And I -- we're going to walk you through a whole bunch of stuff about where we're going. We're going to kind of break down what you saw in the keynote a little bit more today.
I have been getting a lot of questions from yesterday on how did we do that. There's -- it's funny, there's like 2 sides of belief. There's the side that kind of has an inkling and kind of wants to know more detail and then there's the other side that's like that couldn't have been real. And it totally was. So we're going to break that down and show you how all of that works.
Rohan and I, the way to kind of think about these 2 sections in the agenda here is I'm going to start by walking you through how I think our apps are going to change and how they need to become agent-ready or a more technical term agent legible, meaning every app needs to be usable by agents in a composable environment like Cowork like you saw earlier. And then Rohan is going to come up and start walking you through how we are in the midst of transforming into a much bigger data company and how we'll leverage that data in an enterprise harness for the future. So that's the course of the next 30 minutes or 40 minutes or so.
Now what I want to do is something just mildly annoying for a moment is I want to hop out of the slides, and I want to go to the demo screen just for a second, if we could. Thank you, team, back there. Okay. So I mentioned -- actually, how many of you saw the keynote yesterday? Oh, most of you. Okay. Great. I thought it'd be about 1/3 of you. Good job, everybody. So I mentioned in the keynote yesterday that you can go from nothing to something pretty usable in about 6 to 8 minutes. And then after that, you might have a few days of iteration as you build and you refine and you kind of design the user interface that you want.
So I want to try to bring that to life a little bit here. So I've got a prompt up here, and I worded it kind of in a funny way, but I'm saying build a one-shot artifact and artifact is actually a capability within Cowork, which you'll see in a moment. And I wanted to list my open Salesforce opportunities. I wanted to use the headless toolkit to do it. And then I wanted to build a model where Claude drafts a task and posts that over to Slack. And then I say no questions. One shot at the front and no questions at the back are me trying to get Claude not to ask me any damn questions and just build the thing so that I don't have to keep coming back in and hit Enter while this is going.
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Okay. We can go back to the slides. Okay. So I think you heard yesterday that we really believe that there is a big interface revolution going on. Another way that I like to say this is that there is a user behavior or a user experience revolution going on, which is that most people in the world in software, at least, are starting to figure out or starting to sense that there is a better way to use software, right? The way that we've used software for 50 years is we have to know what we want to do, and we have to know then how to use the software itself, and we have to click around and hunt and peck.
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And what's happening now is we are taking an agent and putting it between the software and the human. And we're just taking intent from the human. It's giving it to the agent, to the knowledge worker agent. In this case, what you'll see today, that knowledge worker agent is Claude. Claude is looking across all of the tools and capabilities, which have been connected inside of Cowork, and it is composing a response based on all of those tools. So you are getting a tremendous amount of additional value out of not just Salesforce but any other platforms that you plug into it.
The other interesting thing that's happening there is it's kind of aggregating software into one environment because no longer do I have to do a discrete task in Salesforce and then a discrete task in SAP and a discrete task in Workday, I can -- if I have a task that requires all 3 of those systems, if they're all wired up in the same way that we just showed you yesterday like we can do with Salesforce, if they're all in that Cowork environment, it's now all aggregated and that agent can go off and kind of work and operate across those systems in ways that, frankly, we've been trying to build integrations for, for the last 50 years. And now we have this entirely new way to kind of drive these integrations. So it's a big, big revolution. And of course, we've been working towards this.
Marc talked through this yesterday, really trying to simplify our platform to make it ready for this user behavior change that we see happening. We've really focused on our deterministic systems, of course, our data layer, which Rohan will go into; our apps layer, where we have a lot of the semantics and business processes that are codified into Salesforce. And then we added our Agentic layer and then now the new AI Force layer on top. And that's really where all of this starts to come together.
So AI Force, you can think about it as 3 kind of new surfaces. One is Claude Force, the second is Slack, the third inside of Lightning is Agentforce Coworker. We will do more of these in the future. There is no shortage of knowledge worker apps that are beginning to emerge where you would want to be able to use Salesforce in the way that I'm about to show you. And then, of course, all of that comes together on this platform with Data 360, Customer 360, Agentforce and AI Force.
When we click into Claude Force just for a moment, and I'll show you this in the app. Basically, we came off of Headless at our developer conference back in March. We launched Headless. We kind of -- we sensed the user behavior change that was happening. And we were like, we better get MCP servers out because our customers are trying to do this themselves, and it's a little bit dangerous. So let's get some first-party MCP servers out. That was, I think, very successful and a little surprising.
I don't think people expected that posture from a software company to actually endorse that pattern. We got out there with it quickly, and then we started seeing people pick up and use it very quickly. And then on top of that, we started seeing them run into problems that we needed to fix. And Claude Force is really the extension of that and AI Force in general. It is us productizing the capability of those MCP servers into something that can get implemented and deployed across your organization way faster than every individual in the room having to connect their own MCP servers, which is just really not very practical.
And then, of course, we'll talk more about this later across the sections, but then we wanted to package all of that up into one relatively easy to buy platform addition. So we have our new AI Force Max edition at $550 per user per month, and it includes everything that you're about to see today, including Slack and Slackbot, which you'll see glimpses of for me today, but not a ton.
And despite this new addition, for the time being, Claudeforce is in open beta. So we're trying to maximize test area of customers that can touch it right now. One day soon, that will move into a GA, and you'll have to buy it to keep it turned on. But right now, we really want people to touch it.
Okay. So I'm going to go back to the demo, and I'm going to break down a little bit what all that looks like. And then I actually have a customer -- a little bit of a surprise for you in a moment. We're going to bring a customer up, and we're going to see their live Claudeforce environment against their live production data as well. So let's go back to the demo. And you'll see -- there we go, I have to learn how to scroll. So it's still -- it did ask me a question. It's Claude managed, just constantly asking me a question. I'm just going to say, roll up command. I'm not really reading what it's asking me, so God knows what we're going to get. But I do have some confidence that it will be pretty good.
Okay. So we're going to let that keep running, and I can kind of go into into the rest of the demo. So you saw this big beautiful dashboard yesterday, right, and all this whiz-bang stuff happening on the screen. But that's not -- that's a capability within Cowork. It's an incredibly exciting one, but it's also not the way most people start using Cowork. The way most people start using Cowork is they start on the chat screen. And so that's exactly what I'll do. I'm just going to create a new chat here, and they just start asking questions. Before anybody figures out that they can build applications, this is the way people usually start.
And so what would a typical Salesforce question look like? Well, it might be, tell me about my pipeline, say, open pipeline. So a fairly typical question. Now what's going to go on in the background here as this thinks, and you'll see the work going on here is, first, it looks at the question and it's deriving the intent from the question. So just from the word pipeline, it is looking then at its tools that have been connected, and it is trying to connect a tool to the intent, okay? And in this case, it's going to connect Salesforce to that intent. It's going to say this is a question that Salesforce can likely answer, and then it's going to go ask Salesforce that question through the MCP server, and then it's going to bring back an answer. That is what is happening behind the screens.
And not only did it bring back an answer, but you'll notice that it brought it back as a dynamically generated kind of mini application right here in the channel. And that is all made possible through a new protocol within MCP called MCP apps. Sorry to get mildly technical for a second. You'll also hear us refer to it as HXL, which is just our internal name for it. And all it means is when we ask that question, Salesforce on the other side, it says, not only do I know the answer to that question, but let me give it back to you with some additional detail about what an application could look like on the other side. And then Claude says, thank you very much for that information, and it draws the application right here in the chat. And all of that took place everything that I just said took place in -- well, way faster than I was even able to tell you what was going on, right? So it came back with our answer.
And what's cool about these little mini applications is they're actually somewhat interactive. I can scroll over them. These aren't just like images that come back. I can interact with these things as well. In fact, I can even design buttons in. And all of this kind of sits on the Salesforce side. We send these instructions over to Claude and then Claude puts it on the screen. So I've got my North Star app here. This is an opportunity. This is actually the one that we were looking at yesterday at $4.8 million opportunity.
And let's say, I wanted to ask a follow-up question. So tell me about the open activities. And effectively, you're going to see the same kind of thing happen. It's going to go to Salesforce or first it's to read the intent. It's going to realize that this is a Salesforce question. It's going to look up the skills and the tools to see if it knows how to go get it. And then eventually, it's going to come back with an answer. And ideally, that answer is also going to be some sort of dynamically generated interface, which I expect that it will be as soon as you see Headless toolkit, yes, there we go. So these are all of the activities that are logged inside of Salesforce, just brought back immediately to me and even a little activity chart, kind of a heat map where you can see when the activities were happening.
Now these seem like relatively simple queries and they kind of are, but I want you to think through how much kind of internal human clicking is going on inside of Salesforce to do this the old way, right? You have to know how to get to opportunities, you have to load all of your opportunities, you have to click into every single one. You have to look at the entire opportunity screen for every single opportunity. You have to commit to memory, what's going on with those opportunities, then you have to synthesize that as a human being, and then that tells you what you should go work on or you can just ask Claude. And that's effectively what we've done here with Claudeforce.
Now let me show you a couple of other things. One thing that's very cool is, if there are certain things that you do every single day or every few hours or whatever it is, you can schedule these. So that's what I have. I have a daily briefing skill here. So here's the daily briefing. So this tells me what I should be worried about every single morning. And I don't even have to come in and run this every single morning. I can just tell Claude to schedule it. It saves it as a daily briefing schedule, which you see right up here.
And in a funny way, what you've done there is you've basically created -- just by asking, you've created an agent. You have created an agent that every morning is going to go out. It's going to inspect Salesforce. It's going to build your daily briefing, and it's going to bring it back and drop it right here in Claude. And of course, that goes to your phone as well. You get a notification every morning. So it's an incredibly powerful capability.
I can also show you -- so here is the command center that we looked at yesterday, see if the sound is actually working. It is, which is unfortunate for Parker because that means Parker is going to come up. There he is. And we're just going to minimize Parker because I think he's heard enough of that. But this is a very fancy version of that prompt that I started with, right? Remember that first prompt where I was like build me an application. That's where this started. And then it just grew and grew and grew in capability as I asked it for more and more, which I think somewhere -- yes, right here, you can kind of see all of those prompts going through, and there's actually more than this behind the scenes.
In fact, I can even show you. So remember a few moments ago, I told you that the kind of cool thing about this is the aggregation of software. This isn't just Salesforce, it's Salesforce and anybody else who builds these kinds of MCP connectors. Well, one of the companies that's really out in front on that is this company -- I don't know where I put it, here it is, is this company called ElevenLabs. And everything you see here on this screen, as I scroll through it, is if I know how to scroll, I actually don't even know how to scroll on this, I guess, we'll go this way. There we go. Everything you see here, I did not create. This is ElevenLabs internal kind of capability for creating voice models and for creating 3D avatar models. I didn't touch this. I didn't create any of this.
All I did was create an ElevenLabs account, hook up the MCP server. And then when I was building my command center, I said, here is a graphic of Parker in the silly lightning costume. And then I gave it an audio file from a keynote that Parker has done in the past. Those were the only 2 inputs. And the Claude connected to the ElevenLabs MCP server, did every single thing else. Really powerful. And actually, there was a funny moment in here, if I can find it. It might be here. I forget, yes. I look at all the silliness as it generates this all out.
I think it's here, filtered. Yes. So what happened is ElevenLabs didn't like this graphic because it thought that it demonstrated violence because of the lightning bowl, and it actually stopped me and prevented me from going further. And then we just had to change the initial graphic to make it look less like a real spear, and that's how we got through this. These AIs are constantly stopping you to make you do things. But anyway, none of this was -- 0% of this was manually created. This was all just from those series of prompts and the capabilities all hooked up.
Okay. So I'm going to wrap up here quickly by going back to -- if I can find it, where is this? Probably in here somewhere. Is it this one? No? Stephen, help me out here. The very top, this one? Keep going. Here, it raised its hand. Okay, that's a good sign. That means it's about done. Okay. So it's ready to publish the artifact. The artifact is the application that I asked it to create at the beginning. So if I accept this, boom, there is my pipeline, and I should be able to expand this and maybe shrink this a little bit.
So there is my full roll-up of all of my opportunities across my team. Super simple, just from that one silly prompt at the beginning. And I can make this better and better. I can make it look like whatever I want. For example, there was -- there's mine, which looked super fancy and had all the whiz-bang stuff, but what if I wanted it to look like a newspaper, all you'd have to do is ask in the instructions and you get a totally different view of all of your Salesforce data.
What if you wanted to build something that looks more like a deck. So this is Salesforce information kind of in slide format. So you could actually build a full presentation. If you had to go do a Board presentation, everything is just there, all from a couple of sets of instructions. And then finally, what makes this all work? Well, it's pretty straightforward. It is this new plug-in behind the scenes where we've taken the many, many MCP servers that make Salesforce work and a handful of skills.
Right now, most of those skills are focused on sales questions and salespeople, but we'll be expanding across our entire platform. And then things just kind of start to work because you have this powerful agent sitting between the human beings. So the key here is like this is not just about getting answers to your questions. This is about building full form applications and dashboards that you need to go get your business done. In fact, there was a thing that happened this morning. I'm not going to bring it up, but there was a -- I am going to kind of bring it up.
There was a thing that happened this morning that I woke up and the very first thing that I said is I need a command center, so I can see the surface area of the problem that's going on, and I just jumped into Claudeforce and built it out and then got my team rolling on it. So we're using it in real life. This is rolled out to Miguel and Alexa's entire organization. It's rolled out to the Anthropic selling organization. We have about 40 customers in the beta -- well, in the pilot. As of yesterday, when we put the beta link up, I actually haven't checked to see how many customers have signed up for the beta, but it's probably several hundred or 1,000.
And with that, I would like to bring up one of those customers. We're going to bring up Rick Janssen, who is the CIO of Siemens. You heard a little bit from Siemens, and we'll invite Rick up, and he's going to show us how he is using Claudeforce.
We didn't test his laptop before that. So we'll see.
Hi everybody. Thanks for having me.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
So let's see whether this is working without any [indiscernible].
So this is going to be fun. We turned Claudeforce on for Siemens, what, 1 week ago, Frederik, 2 weeks ago.
There we go. Very good.
When do we turn this on for you?
A week ago?
A week ago.
A week ago, roughly.
Yes. And you've built the full sexy command center with a 3D avatar of yourself by now as well, right?
I actually had my team build a little avatar view, which I wanted to show up here, but...
You know what, I kind of deserve it actually, if you did that. Why don't you show us where you are?
Yes. Okay. So I mean, first of all, to start with, we are really excited. And I would fully agree from a Siemens perspective to what you have been calling the interface revolution. We believe that this is really the necessary step. And it's great to see that Salesforce is taking that, some might say, disruptive step to open up. I think the architectural readiness with Data 360, Headless 360 is there, and now introducing the partnership with Anthropic is just a great additional step. And I mean, as you can see on my machine, I'm running Claude Desktop. And to also quickly share here in the settings, we are running Salesforce for sales, the plug-in, right, what you just shared.
I also have the team provide me 2 skills. 1 is the Siemens report, so just a layout and how we would like to create reports. And then the other 1 is the Salesforce data masking. We are, of course, looking at productive data here. So we want some data orchestration for the report we are generating in a second tab.
We were coming up with this on Monday night. We were sitting in the W with his laptop thinking about what to prompt. And he's like, but the problem is it's going to send production data. Miguel was trying to figure this out as well for his demo. And I said, no problem, just tell Claude before it outputs the answer to obfuscate your data, and it will do it. And it does. So we'll take a look.
So, and I mean, what I prepared for the demo is basically a prompt where I want Claudeforce to list me the top 10 Dutch accounts and their opportunities. And I want it generated as a report based on the skill I was just sharing in the skills section. And I think let me now hit return. And of course, we're going to have to bridge a little bit of time here just starting to think and execute.
And the fun thing about these demos is the AI works for a little while. And so you have to riff in between. The voice demos are also challenging because you don't mute in time, then they don't, it's like a whole new world of figuring out how to do these demos. How is that? Terrific? Did I go long enough?
No.
No.
No. No. Maybe we can quickly discuss where we could take it next, right?
Well, before, actually, maybe before where we go next, so this is, you said, a little bold for Salesforce to do, but maybe equally as bold for you, right? I mean this is an AI that now, click again, I told you that AI is constantly asking you. This is an AI that is like looking at and reading your Salesforce data and in some cases, maybe even writing your Salesforce data, maybe a scary thing, but you jumped into it. Why?
A, because we believe, as I just said, the revolution has just started and maybe you're delivering the blueprint for what many other companies would follow. You maybe saw our CEO also on stage at the keynote. And I think for him as well, it triggered somewhat, some kind of process that he says we need to maybe open up in the same way. I mean you're the #1 in CRM. So you have all the data about the customer and about how you are serving the customer. We have all the data about the product. So you have the customer truth, we have the product truth.
Absolutely.
So basically, similar path. Another thing is that, I mean, this is what I would call the Claudeforce version 1, which we're now launching. It takes away the need for many of our sellers, people in service and marketing, to really go through the already established interfaces, which we know from the past. But it would most likely start with reading data, combining data.
So you're starting with read... and synthesis...
Correct. But of course, the real magic would happen as soon as we would be able to also write in a meaningful way back into the systems because that is then doing exactly what you also were pitching. It takes away the elements where software has the human do all the work, and that is, I think, the next level of productivity, which we, of course, also want to achieve.
Absolutely.
And there's maybe even cool things we can do together.
We should have started this 1 before, just like I did the other prompts, but it's rocking and rolling here. This stuff is going to get...
Still going...
Still going. This stuff is going to get way faster over time. Really, what's happening in the background, it's not latency within the platforms. What it is, is overthinking is what it is. It is over, right now, the AI is over reasoning over the tools that it has available to it. And so all of that can be tuned as we move further in. And this is exactly why we want to get this out to as many customers as possible so that we can identify where you have what should be a simple question being over reasoned on as you come back in.
Another way to solve that also would be to change the model and go to something like Sonnet, which will do much less reasoning and thinking, and it will just kind of immediately, the bigger the model you use, the more thinking it's going to do, which, by the way, is also more tokens. So that's relevant as well. Let's see, can you, let's see if we can expand, gives you a little expand on that. It might not. Yes. So this is what it's doing. You can kind of see all of the thinking. Actually, this is what's called the chain of thought. You're actually seeing step by step what the AI did there. So I got the Dutch accounts, now I need to. This is like literally, it is writing down its thinking as it goes, and this is incredibly useful information for us from a tuning and performance perspective as well if we have the telemetry to look at it.
So it should be ready in 1 second, but I think it's also worthwhile mentioning the additional connectors, which we would be able to bring in overtime. Yes. So connecting to the Microsoft Office environment, having all the Office 365 topics like conversations with customers, e-mails, documents, Exchange tasks noted down, documents are shared in SharePoint, et cetera, bringing that in as additional context, of course, something which would also be a very meaningful addition. I think the teams are working on making that already happen. And then the SAP connection is also something which is kind of powerful because we do billing, cash collection, everything on the SAP side. So having the end-to-end view on what's really happening in the different customer accounts.
How much of that from the Salesforce side, we've kind of solved a lot of that for you. You said teams working on it. For the other platforms, maybe not so much yet right? You guys are wiring it up yourself.
Right. We are wiring up it ourselves, but I would expect that you're going to have connectors, which are maybe then double tested or double checked with the different other tech partners to really have it rock solid and then out of the box basically.
Yes. Yes. I got you. So, this is what I meant when I said fast and efficient isn't going to work out. We're still rocking and rolling here.
I did somehow prepared for that scenario and now...
Yes...
I've created... perfect. And I maybe just open it here in Google Chrome so that everybody can see it. I want a nice extension, but I think here we go. And those are now the top 10 Dutch accounts, right? Obviously, it is, as I said before. But you would find it by value. In the Siemens report, as we define it in the skill upfront, you could drill down into the opportunities. So you see where your pipeline sits, what the status of the different deals is, and which stage they are, whether they are closed. And then also what patterns maybe stand out, win rate, cancellations. And then you could take it, of course, and dive deeper and double-click on the different elements to better understand what action you might want to take or to identify what maybe other people did to fix situations like this in other customer scenarios.
You'll notice it did something which I didn't expect, which is it actually went and got your real logo, and it probably even went to your website and stole some of your CSS to kind of make it roughly look a little...
That's the skill I showed...
You built in the background.
Yes, exactly because then we know that the system would always provide it in that kind of style and layout.
Incredible. Well, where are you going next with this?
As I said, I think we want to make sure that Claudeforce is really used across the organization. We have now the pilot going on with 25 users. The first initial feedback is excitement. People love it. And so I think we want to sit down and need to figure out what we are agreeing in terms of the pricing model behind it. But ideally, we can bring it out to our sellers ASAP and then innovate from there because I think that is what now the market is expecting. And I think we can speed up the transformation of our company with your support.
You have 25 now. How many do you think it could be?
18,000.
There you go on the go. 18,000. Amazing. Amazing. All right. Well, Frederik, really appreciate it. Thanks so much. This is super exciting. If you have any problems, then you will, you'll run into a few. Yes, please go to me, and we'll get it picked up, and we'll chase those 18,000 users.
Perfect. Thank you.
Thank you so much. All right. So I think from here, we're going to shoot it over to my colleague, Rohan, and we're going to start talking about trusted context and data. And Rohan, over to you. Thanks.
All right. Well, it's fantastic to be here and be with all of you. I, Rohan Kumar, I joined Salesforce 3 months ago, and it's just been a lot of fun. As Patrick started off, there's 2 big focus areas. Obviously, how do we get all the value that we have to be agent readable. That's a huge focus with headless and the work we are doing there. And the other big piece that I'll get into is where we are transforming to become a data company. And I'll talk about why is that and the importance of why we need to go there. And it's interesting, you look at like a lot of the value that AI is accruing, there's 2 very important things for these agents to be very successful. It's the model itself, which has the intelligence. It knows a lot about the world.
The challenge is the model doesn't know anything about the business, right? When you look at customers, products, employees and how the interactions happen, the history and memory of how your business functions, a lot of that, the model doesn't understand. So by itself, no matter how intelligent the model is, it can't reliably reason and act on behalf of your company. And that's really where the data and the enterprise context to like that understanding of your business becomes very important. The challenge is building the enterprise context is very hard. There's, you look at like the data is in silos. A lot of times, the decisions that get made, they get made in meetings, there's no structure we are capturing all of that. And without having that comprehensive understanding, this is where agents hallucinate, right?
When you look at how do you build trust inside agents to do complex stuff, getting that enterprise context right becomes very critical. And what I'll walk you through is how do you go create that? And it's, creation is 1 thing, but this is the most important IP of a company. And with these agents, you got to make sure that you secure it and then you have to manage it at scale when you have like a huge digital workforce that's running in your enterprise. So the first step in terms of creating the enterprise context is you have to get your data ready for AI. And what I mean by that is today, if you look at any reasonably complex enterprise, they have many SaaS applications, which have very high-value data. They essentially have data lakes, data warehouses, storage systems, where a lot of high-value data is getting stored.
And it's actually really hard to even discover this, right? And so we have this product suite called Informatica that essentially helps data leaders in an enterprise discover all their data assets, clean them, connect them, figure out the semantic meaning and make that, take that first step of having the data ready for AI. So before the agents really understand your business, it's important that our customers understand the data assets in the first place. So that's step number 1. Now once your data is ready, it's ready, the next step essentially is to create what's called the enterprise context. And there's a difference. Data being ready means you can have like a bunch of structured data in your SQL tables that needs to be synthesized into figuring out what does revenue mean for the company, right?
So that's a higher-level concept as an example, or what customer segmentation means for you. And to sort of create that context, we have this product called Data 360, which essentially not just relies on Salesforce data because there's obviously a lot of your enterprise data that's outside of Salesforce. And we've built this cool technology called Zero Copy. And what that does is it's able to reach into all the data systems that have been discovered by Informatica, remember, the first step. And then without physically copying the data, it looks at the metadata of each of these systems and it's able to synthesize the right context in a central location. So that's the second step. So you've made the data ready for AI with Informatica. And then Data 360 using the Zero Copy is able to get your Salesforce data and everything else into your context layer.
Now once you have built out the enterprise context, the third step is essentially creating a semantic model. And semantic model essentially is your business glossary. When you think about what does customer churn mean, what does ARR mean, what does customer health mean? These are not just some static fields that you see inside a database. These are like business metrics, business relationships that have been created over decades, which are very important, like this sort of information for an agent plans are becoming very important. So Tableau is the tool that we have, the product suite that we have that helps you create these semantic models. And it's interesting, these manifest as dashboards today. If you look at Tableau is the BI tool, it creates dashboards. And of course, dashboards is being commoditized right now, like every AI tool helps you create dashboards.
But the value of Tableau is never the dashboard itself. It is the semantic model layer that gets manifested at the dashboard. So in fact, if you think about, if creations of the dashboards become very common, you can do that in any AI tool, the value of your semantic models essentially has really gone up because if your semantic model is not right, then all those dashboards are actually giving you false information. So that's really where Tableau comes in. And now you have all this trusted context plus semantic model that you've created, it's available to all your agents. I mean this is great because it makes the agents a lot more accurate because they're working on a deep understanding of the enterprise. And then it also makes them more efficient. So they're not burning a lot of tokens.
I think the point that Patrick was making where if you don't have the right data organized, then the agent is spending a lot of time trying to get to the right information, which is where they're spending a lot of cycles and a lot of tokens. So it becomes very expensive. So creating this enterprise context early on lands up becoming very important. The challenge, of course, is once you have all this information, if you put yourself in the shoes of the security leader, it's extremely risky because if these agents that are using this context start leaking it, deleting it, that can become a huge problem. So this is where we introduced this product called Salesforce Guardian. It's the evolution of what we have with trusted services in Shield. In Salesforce, we basically had capabilities like encryption of your data, data masking, et cetera, to protect your assets, and that's evolving into 2 additional capabilities.
1 is called agent identity, which is the embodiment of how the agent runs. For very complex stuff, you don't want the agents to run on behalf of the user because that gives them a lot of privilege. You want them to have identity which can be controlled. So that's 1. And the second thing is actually protecting this enterprise context itself, like capabilities that can actually classify your data, mark things which are highly confidential and have specific data policies that actually protect those. So that's how you secure AI. And finally, again, as this digital workforce starts getting built out, you can imagine you can start with like tens of agents, hundreds and then get into thousands of agents across your teams, platforms, applications, et cetera. And that becomes a nightmare for the CIO, for the IT leader to go manage.
And this is really where for several years, IT leaders have relied on the product called MuleSoft to manage their APIs, which connect their business. And that's what we are evolving into this product called Agent Fabric. It's, think of it as a single registry that helps you manage all your agents, not the ones that have been built on Agentforce, but they're built on any provider. We basically are able to scan; monitor them and do things like FinOps to really look at what value you're getting of the agents versus what you're spending on them. All right. Let me actually jump to the demo and actually show you specifically Agent Fabric and Salesforce Guardian because there's 2 very important, it's not very obvious. The sort of the boring tasks that need to be done in enterprise, but it's extremely important that you get this right.
So this is basically the homepage of Agent Fabric. And as you can see, we essentially tells you there are 726 agents that are running. And what you see are all the scanners. So these are basically tools that are running continuously in your enterprise to discover new agents as they're coming up, right? So, and if I go take a look at the Agents tab, let's go to the list view. You see on the provider side, agents from Azure, AWS, Google, Agentforce, so all the providers. And if I want to go deeper into any specific agent, let me just pick 1 of them. It's the recruiting agent. This was shown in the demo yesterday, right? As an admin, I get a bird's eye view of all the skills that the agent has. Like this is important because you really, it helps you understand the logic that the agent is using to come up with decisions.
As an admin, I can go deeper, look at lineage. Here's where you see the integration across products. So this is the grounding data, the enterprise context that this agent is using. And all this information has come from Informatica. Remember, Informatica helps you discover all your data assets, and that has been integrated into Agent Fabric. If I'm an admin, I can actually map these data sources onto the agent, and I can look and say, hey, is it hallucinating? I can come and debug things over here. The other important thing is you want to monitor these agents as an admin like what's the average latency? If these agents are front ending your customer experience, then you really want to know how long does it take for the agent to respond, what's the error rate, how many policies have been violated.
And then what's the total number of requests? Like how much of volume is being sent to the agent because that will be directly related to your cost, right? So here, as I see the agents, the specific agent is seeing a spike in the number of requests. So let me go dig into the cost management piece of it. And here's where Agent Fabric does a really good job of enabling the IT leaders to manage their budget really well. So you can think about creating sections of your budget, if you will, for a certain class of agents, and that's the maximum amount that they're about to spend monthly, and then you can manage things like that. Another interesting thing that Agent Fabric does is that behind the scenes, it actually observes the work that the agent is doing to come up with recommendations in terms of like what changes can be made to make this agent a lot more optimized in terms of token usage, right?
So that's directly impacting the cost. So in this case, I can go to the agent I was looking at. There's all these optimization opportunities. And obviously, you have to be careful that these don't change behavior of the agent. But assuming that's true, that it doesn't, then I just go apply and that's it. Basically, that's very simple. So you can manage and govern the agents, you can look at their performance and the value creation that's happening and manage their cost. It's going to be very, very important as the volume of agents go. So that's the IT leaders' part of it. Now let's take a look at Salesforce Guardian. You'll see like the way we are trying to create this is you have this notion of a security score, which is overall, like what does the security health look like, how many assets that you have across your enterprise contact center I mean monitored here, you see it's about 94% coverage.
But the 2 very important things when it comes to agents are essentially agent identity. So as the agents do their work, there we actually observe every action that they take. I imagine the scale at which these agents are running. And based on the actions the agents are taking, you determine whether the agent carries risk or not. For example there, the agent was supposed to do X and it's doing A, B, C. Well, that's, they're deviating from what they're supposed to do. So we capture those observability logs and then analyze that and determine the risk of the agent. So you see in the dashboard over here of all the monitored agents with different levels of risk, 2 of them have been called out as high risk. That's something for the security to take action on.
The other important part is the data assets, which is your enterprise context was built out of a certain volume of data, how much of that data has been classified and understood, right? Because if that percentage is low, then you land, there's a lot of risk that these agents might be touching data that you don't want them to touch. So anyway, that's just a bird's eye view of how Guardian works. So Agent Fabric for the IT leaders, Guardian for the security leaders. So beyond just selling you the agents, it's this whole manageability piece, the security piece that lands up becoming very important. All right. So we can go back to the slides. Yes. So all the stuff that I just showed you is things that we have today, right, which all these products, there's a method to the madness. It's not just a random suite of products that we have.
The journey that I walked you through is exactly what an enterprise would do. Now the interesting thing now is I'm going to pivot a little bit into the future of this Data 360 layer that you saw in the stack, how that evolves into what we're going to call the enterprise AI harness and what's our perspective over there. It starts with the frame essentially is every role in the enterprise is evolving. I mean we've sort of spoken from the perspective of the business users. But like I said, the IT leaders are going from just managing devices and apps to sort of managing these agents. You take a look at the data leaders, they're not just managing data warehouses and lakes, creation of that enterprise context that makes the agents accurate and efficient is going to be a very important part of their job.
This is things like that, that most of these roles, things are going to change. So what is an enterprise harness? This term has sort of become like 1 of these platform terms, right, which is extremely confusing. But fundamentally, this is the link between what your AI models, the intelligence that you have and then the understanding of your business. The harness is essentially what brings it together for the business outcomes that you desire. Now in Salesforce, like this is a stat that we showed, the bottom layer Data 360 essentially is going to evolve into this Salesforce's version of the enterprise AI harness. And it has 6 capabilities. I won't sort of go into the depth of each of these and an AI control plane that brings it all together. But fundamentally, today, there is a lot of discussions around harness to protect a single agent, right?
So where does the agent run, the run time of that, the evals, which basically tell you the agent is efficient or not, right? You test; you make changes to the agent. And then depending on what responses it's giving, you manage that against your evals, that's, think of that as your test set. And that's, those are the only 2 things that enterprises are focused on. We believe there's a much larger play over here, right? Starting with trusted models, which is we wanted to give you a choice in the models that you pick, right? It's not, you don't need the most extensible model for everything that you do. As a platform, we need to figure out based on the outcome that the customer is seeking based on price performance, what's the best model to pick. Trusted context is everything that I spoke about, which is synthesizing your business understanding, your semantic models, all of that sort of stuff.
Agency and actions is how you, when a customer describes the outcome that they are seeking, the agent and the model they create a plan. The sequence of steps that need to be taken to execute that decision-making comes in the agency framework. And then the actions, the trusted actions is how you execute each of those steps. And every step that gets executed has to be governed just to make sure that the agent is not doing anything that it's not supposed to do. And then trusted governance is essentially getting all your data policies right because that's going to influence how your trusted context gets created and security is about agent identity and data protection, right? It's a very comprehensive view that at Salesforce, we are taking in terms of harness definition, not just protecting the agent, but if you can wrap your arms around the harness, you should be able to bring that with the headless APIs to the AI of your choice.
This is really where we are sort of going towards the future. And an example of the model choice is what we announced in the keynote yesterday. Koa, it's actually very exciting. It's the very first CRM reasoning model from Salesforce. We basically post-trained the open-weight Nemotron from NVIDIA. And like 27 years of deep product understanding and appreciation of the CRM workflow, more than 10 years of data and AI research, it's sort of been baked in. So there's a lot of value, very excited. And this model has been designed for long-running agents. And what I mean by that is agents that can actually create a chain of thought which has multiple steps and make decisions at each step. So you can imagine a complex sales opportunity where what's the next best step to take to go make that happen or a very complicated service case that an agent is dealing with to get the customer to a better state.
So complex situations like that, Koa can greatly help. Very, very excited about it. And then finally, evolving Agent Fabric into this AI control plane, which essentially helps you discover all your agents, govern them, connect multiple agents through standard protocols and eventually do your FinOps, the cost control, all of sort of coming together. That's a big part. Now 1 important thing is it's a very open and composable system, while Salesforce is going to have a very comprehensive answer for each of these challenges because we believe without having a complete solution like this, production deployment of agents is just not going to be successful, right? That's why we are taking a very holistic approach here, but it's open and composed. We realize that like our customers may have a different security vendor, a different data vendor or a different vendor for the AI control plane, all that's fine because through our headless API, we are able to integrate with each of these partners.
So that's a big design point from the very beginning, saying we have a complete solution, but you don't have to use everything from Salesforce. And the thing that I'll finally say is while this is, we are sort of evolving this into the harness, the approach we are taking in terms of building this product is very incremental. So if you are a Tableau customer, if you're a Data 360 customer, if you're a core platform customer of any of our clouds, Sales, Service, et cetera, MuleSoft, you already have taken steps towards actually getting into this harness because we're breaking down the capabilities of all these products and bringing it together in a very composable and a unified way. It's pretty exciting. I think this is something which is going to be very important for our customers to do their Agentic transformation right. And would love to hear your thoughts on this after the session. So thank you.
Thank you, Patrick and Rohan. The demos were sensational. Next up, we're going to have Miguel and Alexa. And I want to just jog your memory. 1 year ago, Miguel was on stage. Miguel was our Chief Revenue Officer. His remit has expanded. He has all of go-to-market motion now. That includes customer success and partnerships. And along with that, Alexa's role has been elevated. And how about a big round of applause for Alexa now, our new President and Chief Revenue Officer. And I couldn't think of a more critical time to have you on stage. So thank you.
Thank you, everyone. Rohan, Patrick, thank you for teeing up so nicely for us. Alexa and I are the lucky executives that get to take this amazing software stack to market. I was here a year ago, same exact location. I think it was October in front of many of you. And Robin and I, we were telling you how excited we were with the momentum that we were seeing in the business, the massive opportunity ahead of us with the Agentic Enterprise and how we were investing heavily and how we were investing heavily and wisely to capture the opportunity. The interesting thing is months later, we started hearing this chatter, this noise in the market, something called SaaSpocalypse or the false narrative that AI was killing SaaS. You know what, we are very competitive. We are like what the hell is going on. This is not what is really happening.
I mean, luckily, the market are starting to come to its senses. And fortunately, I think by now, all of us, I think we believe that it's time to put this false narrative to bed because the reality of the business that we've been operating on for more than 4 quarters already, more than a year, is like the piloting phase of AI from 2 or 3 years ago came to an end. That's what we told you and people were going in production at scale, betting on the big software platforms like us. That's been the case throughout. So we call this new phase SaaSceleration. Some people call it Renaissance, my accent is not great, but you get my point, right? The message here is AI is not killing SaaS. In fact, AI is making software vendors like Salesforce more relevant than ever because AI needs the trusted context and the secure governed deterministic execution to drive value in the enterprise.
I mean that is fundamental. And we have all the pieces of that software infrastructure that you saw earlier. I'll give you a small anecdote. It just happened to me in the last meeting before coming here, I was meeting with 1 of the largest PE firms in the world. Okay? There aren't that many in this category. And 1 of the leading partners, he was telling me that 300-plus large portfolio companies. 75% of them are on Salesforce. And he told me something that I wrote down a piece of paper that was pretty amazing. He said, Miguel, I just want you to know that the Salesforce platform, your business application is the most prolific, prolific of all the platforms. And he named SAP, he named ServiceNow, he named Oracle, he named Workday in terms of driving value with AI to our portfolio companies. And I'm like, you're going to come on stage with me later and say that, but he's conflicted because he's probably 1 of you, he may be here, I don't know.
But the net-net is it's a really renaissance era for us. These are the 3 key messages that Alexa and I would like to share with you today. Number 1 is we see increasingly strong demand in this area. AI is accelerating SaaS, okay? And we are, we continue to invest aggressively, again, wisely also in the top AI markets to capture this opportunity, okay? Very similar message that Robin and I delivered last year. Second, this is a bit new because we were learning last year. We, and Alexa is going to go in detail on this point, the second point. We have now many different levers to monetize AI. We identify a bunch of drivers that are making our customers buy packaged solution with AI embedded. And we also have multiple commercial frameworks to monetize that opportunity. We are meeting customers where they are.
Not every customer is in the AI transformation journey at the same place, but we have a pricing, a commercial model for each of them. And then finally, hopefully, I mean, I was very, I was worried that you guys came today for this event and then left and you were not at Monday, Tuesday, the keynote. I'm very glad that 2/3 of you were at the keynote. Hopefully, you've talked to a lot of customers. I talked to a lot of customers myself. At every meeting, I have to pinch my cheek. I'm like, 'Oh my god, this is so incredible what the customers are telling me.' The proof is in the pudding, and you've heard from many customers on the keynote, et cetera, you're going to hear from 2 more customers. We heard from Frederik, we're going to hear from the Adecco Group. We've heard the marketing story. We're going to hear the real story here by their technical team.
And then also, we're going to hear from Anthropic, and it's super exciting when you hear from customers. Now on the first point, I'll cover the first point. I know that you like this slide on the left side from last year. So Robin and I, we were very confident about the business. We knew that things were going very well, okay? We had really strong and healthy succession of quarters, okay? And we told you last year that we were going to see an organic subscription support revenue reacceleration within 12 and 18 months, okay? Guess who said 12 and who said 18, okay? This is like a partnership. Well, it's been 12, 13 months, okay? So we have guided Q3 subscription support revenue. If your models work correctly, you'll see that there is the beginning of a reacceleration. Why? Because of what we told you last year is the chart on the left side, the magic word, net new AOV growth.
Net AOV growth at that point when we were here, the lines were crossing. We knew they were crossing, okay? They did cross in Q3. So the net new AOV growth outpaced the AOV growth. Mathematically, when that happens, the AOV accelerates. AOV always grows, obviously, but it was decelerating for years. Why? Because there was a lot of, because of this. Because we have some years after COVID where the net new AOV was actually even negative growth, and it was pulling down the AOV growth. Now since Q3, the last 12 months, the last year, net new AOV growth has outpaced the AOV growth. Okay? And we feel very confident in this net new momentum going forward. Now look at the business metrics. I mean, most of them, I think all of them we've already shared at our earnings.
cRPO, not a bad number, 14% we delivered in Q2. We guided 14% this quarter for Q3. That 14% for Q3 does not include the Contentful and Fin acquisition that we just closed last week -- this week. Pipeline at record levels. That's a little bit of a new info for you guys, but it's in the very high teens, very healthy coverage ratios. Coverage ratios are healthier than other years with increased commits, obviously. It's looking good across the board. Okay, across segments. Contract lengths are increasing. I mean we gave you this stat in Q2. We do 100,000 transactions per quarter, give or take. A lot of them are renewals. Many of them are new bookings. It doesn't matter whether we're talking renewals or new bookings. We give the average of everything. It doesn't matter the segments. We took every deal band, contracts were expanding in every deal band. That's good. That's good.
Then you add the fact that seats, sales, seats and service seats. Remember, the world in SaaSpocalypse world, the world is coming to an end. There will not be any more sellers. There will be not more service agents. Guys, you have a seat-based model. Salesforce is going to cloud. We haven't seen still any decline on number of seats for sales or number of seats for services. And we track that obviously very closely because guess what, at some point, there might be. But we are not even worried if when that point arrives, which so far hasn't arrived, it's still growing. We have so many new commercial frameworks to monetize the AI opportunity that, we'll be okay. We'll be okay. But so far, it's increasing. And of course, Slack seats are flying through the roof, okay? It's the hottest product right now, I think, in enterprise software, definitely within Salesforce, but I think in enterprise software.
And then the consumption, AWUs are exponentially growing pretty much every quarter, we do as many AWUs, Agent Work Units, which is the closest thing, it's not tokens, it's the closest thing to productive work delivered to the enterprise. We do more in 1 quarter than in the history until now. I mean obviously, mathematically, that will have to stop at some point. But it's a lot of consumption, a lot of customers, Agentforce customers consistently consuming. So, and then, by the way, I didn't mention something that I think it's going to be 1 in your slides, Robin, every single AI company, the same AI companies that were going to kill SaaS and replace all the CRM systems, all of them are going fully into Salesforce. In just 1 year, in this AI segment, we multiplied by, actually, it's 100%, nearly 6x fold the business that we do with them. Not bad.
You take the top 9 AI companies in the world, the top 10, 9 are wall-to-wall Salesforce, okay? The 10th one, probably you can imagine who the crazy company is, it's an amazing company, by the way. They are actually not wall-to-wall, but all top 10 run on Slack and 9 out of 10 wall-to-wall Salesforce, okay? And they're multiplying by 6 the investment that they're doing in us on a year-on-year. These signals, these business signals are clearly not a SaaSpocalypse situation. So I'm not going to use the word SaaSpocalypse anymore. I hope you don't either. And the market will come to senses this little by little, and we are ready. Now because we see this momentum, because we are excited because we are talking to customers, because we're seeing the demos because we're seeing the new surfaces because we, I, Alexa, all our teams, we are now working.
I mean I go to work, I think I'm going to a video game. I have my, I mean, if you guys see my surface where I work, you don't believe that this is a serious company. This is -- I'm having so much fun. I have a screen that looks like Patrick's demo. By the way, in your, when we finish this session in the break, 1 person in my team is going to show you my cockpit, which is a skin that I put on top of Claudeforce, okay? Because the good thing about Claudeforce is you can say a few things to Claudeforce and it builds a new skin on top of it. Okay? And until yesterday, I couldn't demo, definitely not to the finance community because particularly this is a public event, it is broadcasted. And you will see all my numbers, the numbers for Q3, which I'm sure you're super interested to know. And all of them are going to be on my laptop.
Ning, who works in my team is going to show it to you, but we told something to Claude this morning. Create a toggle button on the top right that says demo mode. So when she clicks that, everything that is data in our metadata model, everything that is data gets blurred. But she's going to do from time to time like this so that you see that this is real data. So this is not, because I think, Alexa, your demo is going to be dummy data, okay? It's on the Slack, there's another surface. But it's the same system with dummy data because you didn't ask Slackbot to do that. But if you do it, so, but listen, it's fun. And if it is fun for us, it's fun for our customers. I mean, Rik, I mean, he's just playing with it. I mean I feel bad for him because he's just been playing with it for 2 days, and he was here in front of the world doing a demo.
And this is very basic, what he just built. Imagine if you build that, you iterate 1 week and you have the most amazing dashboard in the world, driving value to you, sending you signals. Every time that you put a prompt, you are creating an agent that does things for you. So I don't log into Salesforce anymore. Parker, thank you very much for leading the way. I think it was here when you said I don't understand why people will log into Salesforce in the future. You were totally right. I was sitting there and I'm like, this guy is crazy, okay? He's my age basically, but white hair, I'm like this guy is becoming crazy. Why he's a visionary? And I pretty much 1 month later, I stopped logging on to Salesforce. And I use Salesforce 100x more, okay?
Because of all this excitement, we are tripling down, investing in capacity, also under my new role, investing across the success area at these builders, I have 20,000 more people in our revenue because we're bringing the whole go-to-market together. And I gave all of them 1 focus. And you guys can imagine which focus I gave, which objective I gave to those new 20,000 people in customer success, professional services, partnerships, 1 metric. You can speak. Not you. Look at the chart, net new AOV. And why net new AOV and not customer success? Because net new AOV means it's the ultimate metric of customer success. If customers buy more and are happier and adopt more, which is net new AOV, okay, it's good for everyone. So anyways, things are happening. We are doubling the capacity. We've added 30% more AEs in the last 2 years.
And at the end of this year, we're going to have double-digit growth, 10%, 12% growth, more AEs in the core countries than 1 year before. We're also adding 1,000 builders as we speak. So we are very confident in the momentum and the direction and the net new momentum going forward. And then we have, we are very confident about the software infrastructure. Now one; remember the words from the PE person. This PE person represents 180 companies. And these are not Mickey Mouse companies. They are pretty big companies because this is the biggest PE firm in the world, 1 of the biggest. We are the platform that drives more value to the end customers through AI because people want to consume AI through packaged applications. This is the trend. We take care of all the complexities.
We take care like Claudeforce. Everybody can connect MCP servers and build their own MCP servers, but you want to do it securely. You want to do it with 0 data retention. You want to do it with all the skills that matter. So that's the power of our platform. We are very confident. And with that, I'm now going to hand over to Alexa. We already applauded her. I'm so proud to work with you. She's amazing. She's a force of nature. And it's my time, my time.
I didn't get walkup music. I was very; I was sitting in that seat wondering what it might be. Thank you, everybody, for having me here today, and thank you, Miguel, for the introduction. You guys don't know me yet, so maybe I'll share a quick personal tidbit. I grew up in a family where we had a motto that was per aspera ad astra. So through difficulty to the stars. And I think it was really appropriate for what we've experienced over the course of the past couple of quarters because difficulty, I think, sometimes is a necessary condition for success. And I think what it did for us, as painful as it might have been, was forced us to get really clear on what our customers needed from us in that and also what we do incredibly well.
And I think at the intersection of those 2 points is we discovered that our customers had a huge amount of trust in us and our customers needed us more than ever to help them transform. So that's what we've been really focused on. We're sort of ignoring the noise and focusing on how do we go execute to drive against that customer expectation of transformation and trust. And so candidly, I'm even more excited to step into this new role in a period of, we won't use the old word anymore, but in the SaaSceleration or the Renaissance. But I think that difficulty has been a huge learning aid for us. So let me sort of help you understand a couple of things. 3 things on this chart, although it's going to be a pretty dense discussion of those 3 things that I want you to take away.
The first is that we think we have an incredible opportunity to go monetize AI. The TAM is exploding. I think that the word we will not reference anymore did not incinerate opportunity for software, it expanded it. And so Robin will talk a little bit in her section about some of the hard numbers and how we see that spread out across industries and customers. I think 1 interesting way to think about it is the expansion of knowledge workers. There are, give or take, roughly a billion knowledge workers today. We have 50 million of those knowledge workers roughly on our platform. There is huge upside to go capture a really significant portion of the market. And that is before we ever think about an agent as a knowledge worker, which I think is going to geometrically expand that knowledge worker base.
There is so much that we can go do here. So that's the first piece. I think the second piece is to think about how are we going to put our capacity. So Miguel talked about all of this capacity that we're investing into the market, double-digit growth from the builders. And you're going to see us, I think, do a couple of things. The first is recenter on the markets where we think AI is going to grow the fastest. And so I think top markets has always been pretty central to our strategy. I've been here for a decade, but we're going to double down on the 9 markets that we think are the biggest and are going to grow the fastest where we have infrastructure to go in and accelerate. It doesn't mean we're not going to invest in the rest of the world. It doesn't mean we're not going to look for opportunities to move really quickly and find upside potential that we haven't tackled yet, but you're going to see us concentrate our, put all the weight behind the arrow and go concentrate our effort and our energy.
We're also going to be really thoughtful about what does the capacity mix need to look like. You saw the stat that we've scaled we'll exit this year scaling to 1,000 builders. And so as I sit with customers, and I spent, I probably met with, gosh, I don't know, 150, maybe getting close to 200 customers this week at Dreamforce, 75 CROs yesterday. The #1 theme coming out of -- I spent 2 hours with some of the top CROs in the world. The #1 theme coming out of that session was help me build this. So they saw Claudeforce, the demo that you saw Patrick show earlier. They also saw a version of how we run our business in Slack. There will be other examples of that on other surfaces they want and need us to help them build that.
And so part of the capacity modeling that we're doing right now is thinking about, I don't want to show up to a customer or anyone on my team to show up to a customer with a PowerPoint. I want to show up and build a prototype; I want to push that into production as quickly as humanly possible. So that's sort of a thought in terms of how are we mapping our capacity to the demand function that we see. And then I think in the spirit of how we started, we're being pretty thoughtful about, okay, what are the demand drivers? What are the patterns that we see. And what I would tell you is this is indicative, right? And you guys are talking to customers, and I think you recognize that there's alternate patterns, but I think this represents probably the most common one. So let me sort of walk you through what I see more often than not as the way customers adopt the platform and how we're sort of thinking about driving that monetization motion.
So the first, when I talked about knowledge workers, is we unlock new categories of knowledge workers. We unlock additional seats. Miguel talked about, we are really confident because I see seat expansion without even uttering the word AI, I see seat expansion as an opportunity. And I think a good example of that is Replit. Everyone in the room is familiar with Replit, 1 of the fastest-growing digital native or AI native companies. They scaled from $10 million in ARR to $0.5 billion in ARR. We scaled with them. Those are core sales seats that we landed into the account, and we're growing as they grow. The thing I think that's really exciting is it's not just sales, it's not just service, it's also Slack. You heard the story about Adecco on the main stage. We're going to tell you the real story today, so I'll skip that one for now.
But I think the net message I will leave you with, and I think I heard this in the CRO Summit yesterday, too, people still need to build contact centers. They still need to build out pipeline management systems. They're still going to build marketing campaigns. So there is a big opportunity here for the core portfolio. I think though, and Replit is a great example of this, as they expanded their core sales and service seats, they started to think about agents. And so the most recent opportunity we had to engage with them, they expanded into agents, and the place that I typically see clients start is in this employee agent use case. And so they want to build out capabilities to make just like we think about productivity, their own employees way more productive. I was with Bouygues, one of the largest European telcos in Paris, probably back in March, and I did a ride along.
This is really fun. I grew up in Canada. I have a grade school Canadian French. They did the entire meeting in French, which severely tested my capabilities. But we did a ride along in their contact center. They have 6,000 people sitting in a contact center just outside of Paris. And they have implemented Agentforce for internal use cases for those 6,000 contact center employees to help make them more productive. They wanted to stop swivel-chairing, and they wanted to be able to help automate the process of sending text and e-mails, searching knowledge articles, first and foremost, 600 knowledge articles, but also doing outreach to customers who are inbounding the contact center. So I think it's a really powerful example of how customers can start with their internal use cases, but they don't stop there.
I think once they understand the power of an agentic capability, they start to think about, gosh, I have to get that in front of my customer. And CrowdStrike is another really good example. I've worked with CrowdStrike for 5, 6 years. They started their agentic journey as a Sales and Service Cloud customer. We implemented a whole bunch of agents, but the 2 biggest agents were an ask legal agent and they follow MEDDPICC, so they do sort of like a qualification process, and they wanted to help boost their sort of pipeline quality. So we launched those 2 internal agents for them. Fast forward, they now have multiple agents in production, but they now run an external agent, their service agent, and that is containing 83% of the inbound requests that come to their contact center. You can't actually file a support ticket without touching Agentforce when you talk to CrowdStrike.
So I think that's a really powerful example of the pattern. And as customers do this, and you heard Rohan talk about it, invariably, what they recognize is they need to harness their data to make sure that they're high grading those agents effectively so that they can serve their clients and they can serve their employees. And so FedEx, another client that I spend a ton of time with, they produce an astounding amount, a petabyte of operational data a day. They have 600 different, actually more than 600 different data sources, and they're using Data 360 to kind of harness all that data and bring it together. So their 2 largest data sources or the data lake environments are Azure and Databricks, but we bring all that data across those 600 sources into internal agents that are helping them do a bunch of things.
But 2 of the most powerful things they do is look at dormant accounts and look at quotes that have been abandoned. That process took them 3 or 4 hours, but the ROI has been like tremendous off the chart. So I think that's a great example of kind of how the discipline around agents ultimately drives the motion towards we need better data. And as they build out more and more agents, they got to think about governance. So ADT is another customer that I spend a lot of time with. I'm giving you a lot of bright and shiny ones. So let me give you 1 that was a little difficult. Maybe 1 year ago, July 4, actually, I got a call from Marc saying that he'd heard from Fawad, who's the COO at ADT and that he wasn't happy with the Salesforce implementation. And so we obviously parachuted the team in.
I think Mark Sullivan got the same phone call. He's had a history with Fawad at State Farm. We had to do a bunch of work to rebuild their data model because what they wanted was to be able to go way faster. They were swivel chairing across a bunch of applications. They wanted to implement agentic technologies and the apps or the orgs that they built just weren't ready to go do that. So we suitcased our team in, great news. They've sunset a bunch of these legacy applications. Everyone is standardized now on Service Cloud. So again, an example of number 1. But they're starting to think about or they're working with us deeply to partner on, okay, as I build out all these agents, how do I do 2 things really that are really important to them? How do I govern them?
How do I understand where my agents are? How do I register them and kind of manage their behavior? And how do I manage their costs? They're super focused on managing their OpEx responsibly. And so I think this is a huge unlock for them as they continue their agentic journey. And then finally, and this is a little bit of a departure. It is a super new use case. I'm being sort of transparent and probably leaning in a little bit to an opportunity that we see from a monetization perspective that's really, really new. I love it for a lot of reasons. A, we didn't see this kind of business opportunity at, call it, the beginning of the second quarter. So in the last 90 days, this has shown up. And what we're seeing now is Slack emerge as the agentic operating system for agents.
And as people launch their agents into Slack, what they need is a super high latency performance pipeline to make sure that they are fueling their agents with Slack data. And so this is something that I am really excited about. We have probably, the 3 deals that we've closed, a bunch more in the pipeline. Think about digital natives as really being the target area for this. And the thing I love is that it breaks the association. Miguel talked about seats. I feel really comfortable about the seat expansion opportunity that we have, but this breaks that association. I monitor every digital native and how they use our Slack system today. And I think 1 of the really exciting things as you look at it is that the correlation between API calls and usage doesn't map to headcount.
You can have a really small but fast-growing company that is using, that is building agents like crazy, and they don't need to have a lot of employees. So I think that's really exciting. And then finally, we think about more ways to buy. And so you might say, no, actually, you guys already have a lot of ways to buy. But I think this is really important for us, right? We need to meet our customers where they're at and make sure that they've got very flexible, very low friction ways to onboard onto the platform. If you look at Q2, 7 of our 10 largest deals were AELAs. And I think as we start to launch Salesforce Commit more fully across the team, that's going to be a major driver for revenue acceleration for us as well.
On a final note, and Patrick, I think, showed you this slide, the premium upgrade motion, I think, is going to be a huge acceleration vector for us. So for those who aren't familiar, I'll just show you, you saw this before, so let me orient. We haven't introduced a new value edition SKU in over a decade. And so in the last, call it, 8 quarters, the team has been focused on how do we go take that base of core CRM users and move them up the value chain. For every 1% of the base we move, it's $100 million. But more importantly, I think it's an opportunity to push all of our customers to fully leverage the rich capabilities that we're offering in Max Edition, including headless. So this is something that every single seller, every single person in the company has been enabled on. They understand this is the call to action. I have not walked into a room at Dreamforce and not asked people to upgrade.
So if you guys are excited about upgrading your companies, you can scan the QR code and learn more about Max. But I think this is going to be really powerful, and we've oriented our partners and our company around driving that upgrade cycle and making sure that we work with customers to make them successful on it. I think just a final note, and you heard me talk about the 8 quarters. In the 8 quarters would, frankly, I would tell you like partial emphasis on this, we've built out $1 billion of AOV. And when you look at the sort of mechanics of it, in the upgrade pattern, you see about a 60% to 80% uplift depending on the customer and which edition they're coming from.
But when you look at the individual sort of account level data, what we see is a 1.4x expansion of the ARR. I think this is really powerful. A, we're growing, and that's kind of the key message. But when customers renew, you guys can do the math and kind of math, the ARR is slightly less than the upgrade fees. They're remixing the portfolio. They're realigning to where they need to go and kind of fuel their growth or their transformation efforts, or the products that they need to fuel their growth and transformation efforts with. And so not only does it lead to top line revenue expansion for us, but I think it also mitigates any fear of attrition in the future.
So I think this is really powerful, and we are going to put the whole force of the company from marketing and campaigns through enablement, plays, programs, incentives and calls to actions in the field. This is the execution point. Everyone is going to be focused on monetizing the value edition. So I'll end there on the monetization note. I think there's been a lot of discussion around Claudeforce at this conference. And I think 1 of the things I'm hungry for is to show you a little bit more about how we're using our own tools, Slack included, powered by Anthropic, but Slack to drive our business.
Claire is going to help me here. I was wondering if you're in the back actually building a demo toggle into the Slackforce demo. But before, while she's setting up the demo, a couple of things. So we're obviously very focused on driving growth, increasing our sellers, improving their productivity. 1 of the ways that we do that is through sort of revamping from the ground up our sales processes. Forecasting is 1 of the processes that we know people spend a ton of time on. So we have totally rebuilt that function across the go-to-market organization since the beginning of Q3.
We rolled out, and let me know, Claire, when you're all set. I'll do the Patrick riff, see how long I can do this for. We rolled it out at the beginning of Q3. And this is what we use to run the business now. You're not going to see live data, as you heard Miguel talk about, you're going to see dummy data. But otherwise, this is exactly what we use every Friday when I gather my leaders together to run the business. So I think it's really powerful. How many people have seen Slack before? How many are familiar with it? Okay. All right. A few more things to me. You guys weren't going to have seen Slack, you guys, you know what you're about to look at. Are we ready to go? Okay. Do you guys mind switching over to the demo? Okay. Great.
For those of you who haven't seen it, this is a surface in Slack. I think this is 1 of the most powerful -- I use Slack to do 9 million things. I use Slack to prepare for today. I use Slack to prepare for customer meetings. I use Slack to collaborate with my team. I use Slack to run my global forecast process. I'm going to point out a few things here that I think are really important.
So the first thing that you're looking at is a dashboard. Everyone in this room is familiar, but there's way more to it than a dashboard. I look at this every morning when I start my day, and again, this is not real data. I look at this every morning when I start today, my day, to kind of understand, all right, what's happening in the business? What's changed overnight? What should I spend my time on.
There is no more precious commodity than time. I want to know where to orient it. And so this does a couple of things. It tells me where we are at any given point in time, and it tells me who are the drivers behind it? Who are the people who most materially represent the opportunity that we have in any given quarter. You can see that here.
It also calls out, look, where might you have some exposure in the business? Where do you need to go pay attention? This is the what to watch. Miguel talked about the fact that our pipeline was up this year. And so I think that -- if I looked at this and saw that my coverage was high, I think that's basically driven by momentum, but I'm still going to go double check that to make sure that we're operating with the same quality of pipe that we typically do.
And so this kind of gives me a good orientation for what's going on, what do I need to go focus on. And then I might dive more deeply into the forecast by leader. Well, actually, I'll show you. So this is just, again, dummy data, so it doesn't necessarily show you a pattern. But I would look at this to say, okay, what's happening? Is there a trend that I need to understand here from a macro perspective? Is Europe doing really well and EMEA is slowing down and Asia Pac has a problem.
So I can look at this kind of global view. But I tend to spend most of my time in the leader view. And so I might pick as an example, Lenore Lang. Lenore Lang succeeded me in my previous role, so she runs tech media, telco and our data foundations business, our largest operating unit by revenue and people. I might pick this business and say, okay, tell me about Lenore's business and what's happening.
And so I can see here that Lenore is calling $172 million. Slackbot thinks that's high. Now in this case, again, not real data, I'd be like, look, I think Lenore is going to crush it this quarter. So -- but it will give me a view of what Slackbot thinks and why it thinks this is going to happen.
If you sort of -- this is obviously instructive and helpful. But if you think about it, I have teams of people who spend a lot of time. Forecasting is really important. You depend on me to give you an accurate view of what we're going to do. My team depends on that, too. And so we spend a lot of time making sure that we deeply understand the numbers, but I think Slack can help us do that better and faster.
And so I can actually dive into for each of my leaders and I'm going to stick with Lenore here [indiscernible]. So I'll tell you this is a real scenario. It's not -- it didn't happen with Lenore. It happened with somebody else, and it wasn't this deal that you see here, but it was a real deal that happened last week on the forecast call.
And so I can go through and I can understand her right. This is Lenore's -- like the overview of Lenore's business, here are her top 3 deals. And I might see that she's got a big deal at a tech company that is at risk. And so we'll talk about that on the call, and she may give me some feedback about why that deal is struggling.
And one of the things that I want the team to do is get Marc involved right now. There isn't a deal in tech that shouldn't have Marc connected to the CEO. And they are not eager to do that. They want to be perfect. They want everything buttoned down. I want them to do it fast. I want Marc to reach out to the CEO, so I know that if something is wrong -- when he executes that reach out, I'm either going to get good news or bad news, but I'm going to get it fast and I prefer it fast.
And so I'm on this team's case right now to go and get that outreach. But I can also look at, hey, what's happening in this deal right now? Are they doing SICs at Dreamforce? What are the exact connects that they have happening? And then I can actually go into it and kind of say, "Hey, team, let's get this down or let's get this text message set up for Marc and let's have them reach out to the account really quickly."
So that's just kind of a very quick run-through of how I'm using Slack powered by Claude, powered by Anthropic, excuse me, to run the business. And a final note, this is Miguel's favorite example, so I promised him I would do it. I will be in London later this month. And one of the things as we sort of make these trips into the market that we want to make sure we're doing is spend time with customers.
So I can ask Slack, what are the top deals in London in Q3. And it will go through and it will search. And you'll notice it's going to come back. I didn't tell it how many, but it's going to come back to me with, I think, 7 deals when I checked it this morning. That's going to say, hey, here are the top 7 deals in London.
And so further, I can say, look, I want you to send a Slack to every one of the opportunity owners for each of these big deals, copy their entire management team, tell them I'm going to be in town and ask them what I can do to help get this closed in Q3.
And so you'll see just down at the bottom here, it comes back and says, okay, do you want me to send it as a DM? Do you want me to post it in the channel? Do you want me to curate it so that it's fit for purpose for that individual team? I say, yes, that's what I want you to do.
So super quick example, but I think it's indicative of the transformation that we're driving as Customer Zero of this technology. And I think the opportunity that we have to go help all of our customers transform. So with that, I'm going to pass it back to Miguel, who's going to share 2 real-life examples of customers we're transforming right now.
From the Salesforce executives. And now we're going to hear from the real heroes that are getting this incredible stack and driving enterprise value in their companies. So I'm going to start with Adecco, okay? And by the way, this has been a little bit impromptu because we saw Adecco many times. We talked about Adecco. The CEO was with us at the keynote, great marketing messages.
And then right after the keynote, I met with the working team, and they went through all the progress. I typically meet with them every -- about 3, 4 months. And I'm like, wow, this is even better than I anticipated. And I had a good conversation with my friend for many years, Pierre Matuchet in the IT area, Senior Vice President of IT now Pierre join me.
I think they're going to put a chart for us. Give a round of applause to Pierre Matuchet, Adecco Group. There. And honestly, the reason he was -- his eyes were like on fire when he was telling me the progress that he was driving with Salesforce and I'm like, you know what, what are you doing tomorrow night -- tomorrow afternoon, I'll say, tomorrow night also I invited him today to the concert.
But what are you doing tomorrow afternoon because I'm meeting a few of my friends, and I would like you to be with me and tell your story. It's funny because Denis, the CEO, arrived at the meeting at the end, and I said, Denis, I need to get your approval to get Pierre to be with me at this meeting, and he said, yes, so here we are. So thank you so much. Let's take a seat.
So Adecco, I don't know if you -- hopefully, you know Adecco, but it's one of the biggest, if not the biggest staffing global company in the world in HR services, about 34,000 people in 62 countries, about $25 billion of revenue. And we are so grateful that you're here, to your CEO, to the partnership that we've had over many years. And the first question, if you remember last year, I always ask the question similarly, what was our relationship between Agentforce? Sorry, before Agentforce.
Before Agentforce.
Yes.
We were using your CRM for 15, 10 years. It was good. Nothing spectacular. We have a relationship.
Okay, how do you like the [ interview ].
Not a strategic relationship, not a strategic partnership. We were a bit stuck from our side with 42 instances of Salesforce, so not easy to manage, maintenance cost and so on. We need to build some complex mechanisms to have a view of everything. And we get more and more requests from global customers like Amazon, like Siemens to have the same process everywhere in the world to be able to give them a global reporting.
And we were in Dreamforce and working with your team, we have decided to implement the [ Data Cloud ] and this was really for us the foundation of the change because in less than 3 months, we have been able to put all our data in 1 layer and to be able to run reports.
So that was more or less, what, 3, 4 years ago?
2.5.
2.5. So they were stalled a little bit of a boring usage of Salesforce. They were a pretty nice-sized company. They were -- sorry, a customer. They were in the 8-digit business. It was good, 42 instances of Salesforce, but it was a mess. It was a little bit of a mess. And we were not growing with them. In fact, we were having conversations of even reducing the fear attrition that some customers want to use less. That's where we were. And then you implemented Data Cloud and you killed it. It was...
Data Cloud 3 months bring us new vision of our business, capacity to implement new processes to better serve our largest customer, which represents 70% of our turnover. So very important moment.
Okay. So then that sort of -- the way I looked at it is that really appeals to you. You have now a global view of all your orgs. It sort of stopped the bleeding, okay? But then you came to the next Dreamforce and then you saw Agentforce. And I really would love for you to tell this audience with the same passion that you told me yesterday, what are you doing with Agentforce? What agents are you deploying, the volumes -- the volumes that you are deploying them? And most importantly, what is the business value that you are driving?
Okay. I may be a bit wrong. But I will do it in English. Even if Alexa asked me to do it in French, I will keep English. We have started in U.K. in May '25, 6 weeks to develop our first agent. It was a prescreening agent. Today, we have 7 agents running in 12 countries, representing 60% of our top line. In U.K., our first agent was what we call a screening agent. It means we need to prequalify candidates before a real interview with our recruiters.
Year-to-date, we had 2.7 million conversation with these agents worldwide. And for us, the key business impact is a reduction of time to present the candidate to our customer. We reduced it by 40% by the usage of an agent. And we were with Parker a few months ago in a branch in the suburb of Paris, and Parker kindly visited the branch and had a discussion with our recruiters. And one of our lady as a recruiter talked to Parker.
This agent has changed my life because at 10 to 6 in the evening before leaving the office, I launched all my agents. They do the job during the night. And when I come back in the morning, instead of having to call 200 candidates, the agent has already prequalified 20 candidates. And one of the key advantage of this agent is that it is running 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. When our branches are closed, we are still doing business, prequalifying candidates.
In fact, a big percentage of that work for the agent is in after hours, right? Okay. So that's the prescreening agent.
We have also the interviewer agent, which makes real interview with voice.
You have an agent, an AI agent that interviews candidate?
Yes. Including voice. We are using Voiceforce, last name of it. 20% of our calls are currently done by voice, and we do 20,000 interviews per week with our interviewer agents. And this has a direct impact in terms of business. We increased what we call in the hiring area fill rate. It means our capacity to answer to the orders of our customer by 10%, okay, by using this...
You placed 10% more candidates?
For the orders when we put in...
With the combined human and agentic workforce that you have put [indiscernible].
Exactly.
20,000 interviews per week.
And what is quite interesting to see is that the agents allow us to go faster. It takes us less time to present candidates to our customer, and we present more candidates to our customer. So it's speed and quantity we have.
Got it. So... That's -- we have the Agentforce with Data Cloud made a big difference. Then Agentforce, 7 agents already. You talked about 2 of them, global scale, big numbers. By the way, AWUs in the millions, okay? Thank you very much. Awesome. And what is happening now? Tell me what's happened this week that you made a decision.
This week...
Because we are in a world of AIforce.
I remember when we went out of the branch in Paris, Parker told me, it's nice your story with agents, but did you notice that this lady has to close 15 windows in Lightning before launching the agent. You remember Parker, you told me when we went out of the branch. And now we have made the decision to roll out Coworker to our 27,000 users. When we were with Parker in the branch, the lady was a bit stressed, Parker was there and everything and she missed the path to go to the right window to show Parker the results of the agent. You remember Parker.
And now she just has to type in 1 command in Coworker to do it. Coworker, you see I have some [indiscernible]. So I have launched projects, fail terms, succeed terms. It's the first time that I see such a smooth implementation. We, as tech people, we are almost no more involved.
We have... Was there an implementation or was it...
No, it's [ choices ]. We switch on and the user group together, they are rating their prompts. They roll out between themselves prompts to do performance management in terms of pipeline, how to do a search and match for certain orders. They have created their library of prompts. Now they share between countries the library of prompts.
So it's just incredible to see how we have changed the surface of managing our business. It means from a sales or delivery perspective, and it gives really energy and joy to our people to have a new way to interact with the system.
I love it. And the incredible thing we presented 3 AI -- new AIforce surfaces yesterday. Coworker is the most basic one because it's already there. It's living there. You just need to click and then it opens up and it's like a co-work environment within Lightning. And we were not sure how successful that's going to be -- that was going to be. But then we -- it took the market by storm.
Then we also announced Claudeforce and Slackforce. So this one, when I heard the story, the first thing I thought is great. We're going to have a great deal with them this quarter because they have to pay for it, right? Coworker, if you saw the SKUs, it's only available to the Max or the A1E. But this guy, white hair, very clever. He turned that on because he already bought A1E. So he's now enjoying getting the structured and unstructured data that sits on Data Cloud for the last 3 years. And now Coworker is really driving insights and helping everyone.
So I'm super excited. So we've driven a lot of value to you. I mean, 10% more placements. I mean that's your business. It's like pretty impressive. We've gone on a journey 3 years ago, big numbers, but declining. I think in the last 2 years, we've done a few very -- the most important thing is we drove a lot of value to you. We've been able to monetize part of the value. That's the trick of the AI. Our business with them has significantly scaled, okay? We cannot share all the numbers that when I say significantly, it's significantly bigger. And we are just getting started.
Yes, but we need to renegotiate the new contract. Okay. Don't forget.
He has the best contract possible, right? So he signed an AELA 7 months ago. The good news is he signed an AELA, which has unlimited credit for all these use cases. He has A1E. So he had -- he can deploy Coworker, he can deploy whatever he wants. That's the good news.
That's the good news.
What is the bad news?
We need to renegotiate the contract...
The bad news is the contract is a 2-year AELA. And after 2 years, we need to renegotiate that. They are such an incredible customer. And my commitment to him is, if you come here on stage with me, we'll take care of you.
But we're going to -- we're going -- we're going to share in the value that we are driving with you. Listen, they're awesome. Thank you so much, and looking forward to driving more value. And you have one more thing to say?
Yes. One more thing to say is that we are only at the first step of the agentification of the complaints. Today, we have agentified human processes. It means we have taken human processes, and we have identified them. Now we are close to open the second chapter of agentification, which is to redesign our own processes based on agent and then to see where we need human. This will be a big change also for us. And all the agentification, in fact, is a transformation lever for all of us.
All right. So now let me do something before I call the next guest on stage. I have this little thing here. Paul, okay, I'm doing this for you. I don't know if I can do this, but it's going to be difficult but I'm going to try to do this. And so I've known Paul for many years, too many. And he's an amazing friend, and I admire him as an executive, what he's done over the last 15 years since I've known him. Nothing short of incredible.
In fact, he's done something that nobody ever in the history of any company has ever done, okay? You know the numbers of Anthropic. And super thrilled to invite him on stage. Please join me, Chief Commercial Officer of Anthropic. Paul, awesome. Great to have you here. And so Anthropic is not just a great technology company. It's not just a great partner, that it's a high growth. It's a high growth -- so it's not only a high-growth customer of Salesforce, but also very sophisticated, are growing very rapidly. To the point that 4 months ago, one of your sales leaders, Paul, was in a public event -- and they -- and she actually explained nothing to do with that. We were not invited.
She explained how she was running her commercial machine, her commercial engine. And then there was a picture there that had Coworker in the center, obviously. But then it had a bunch of pieces from Salesforce. He had Salesforce, Sales Cloud, it had also Slack. It also had Fin. At the time, we didn't know what that meant. Now we know that Fin is also part of the family. But it was incredible, and it really inspired us to look at how -- I mean, because they were very successful.
They were growing a lot, the speed of their execution. So we went in, we double-clicked, we talked to your team, we talked to you. And then Patrick got involved, Alexa, we realized, why don't we just build this for every customer there. And that was the origin of Claudeforce, our partnership. We announced the product itself to Salesforce in Claude this week. And I just wanted to ask you the first question, Paul, what are you hearing from your customers? Why is it so cool for your customers, for all our customers?
This is one of those wonderful products that your customers kind of organically kind of create ask for almost pull it out of our hands in that we were inside, as you said, with -- I think there was Kate, who was basically doing that at the time. We were using Salesforce in Claude long before Salesforce in Claude was the product that it is today. And then a lot of our customers jointly were doing the same, and you started to do the same internally inside...
Even before Claudeforce that it was funky and we had to connect and it was...
Because intuitively, it just makes sense. It's like if I'm working in something like Claude and Coworker, then I want access to the data that's there, how do I put it in? How do I analyze it in the way that I want to analyze it? How do I bidirectionally read and write. So -- and use it in a very powerful way. And we -- as Marc calls and as you call it Claudeforce, as we call it Salesforce in Claude.
How do you basically produce all of the connectors and the skills to just remove any rough edges and just make that a seamless process. And it's how I run the business every single day, and it's how our individual AEs prep for meetings and do all of the things that expect them to be doing. And it just unlocks a tremendous amount of value. Like you've got decades of sunk value and like investment that goes into a Salesforce implementation. This exposes that kind of supercharges it and it allows me to intuitively use it, have a conversation with that data and use it well.
You, yourself -- this is a script, but you, yourself, have been using Salesforce for many years. And you went back for 4 or 5 years in the dark, you didn't know what you were doing. I wasn't able to use it. You came back to the light. Okay, it's amazing. So our companies use each other's technology quite a bit. We are a very proud customer of Anthropic. We use our engineers, 15,000 engineers, they use your code.
We use your model to power Slackbot, which is transforming Slack and our company. We also use a little bit in Agentforce and we use Claude [indiscernible] in Slack. And we use -- we power Coworker. You heard Pierre is over the moon with Coworker. At the end of the day, the reasoning engine is you. And -- but you're a great user of our technology. So can you give us a bit more detail on Slack, the pieces, Slack, Salesforce, how do you use all our pieces?
So I think we are probably -- I don't know, we might be neck and neck with Amazon, for example, but I think we're one of the most intense users of Slack in the world in terms of for our headcount, just how much we use it. It is kind of like the high [Audio Gap]
While you're here, I would encourage you. I had the most phenomenal experience Monday afternoon in Agentic City, and I have to go back because they weren't all. But go over, in addition to what you heard today, you can truly see from 20 different companies the way they're leveraging the use cases, the value that they're bringing -- that we're bringing to them leveraging our platform. So I encourage you to take a swing through and spend time. But most importantly, we appreciate you being here today, and we're looking forward to answering your questions after this section.
So last year, if you remember, we talked about the FY '30 financial framework. And there were 3 pillars to that. Growth, we started at $60 billion. We closed the Informatica transaction and increased it to $63 billion. We talked about operational excellence. Again, a focus on durable profitable growth. And we also talked about our important metric that we look at all the time is free cash flow. And I'm proud to report, and you heard Miguel talk about it earlier, we're on track. 12, 18 months, we'll negotiate.
But at the end of the day, what we talked about, we're seeing happen. We are on track for organic revenue growth reacceleration in the second half of FY '27 and beyond. And that's happening because of all the innovation that you've heard about. We're also investing. While we're continuing to focus on profitability, I think Q2, we were at 34.1% on track relative to our guide for the full year. But we're also investing to scale profitably and to focus on the long-term trajectory that we see. And I'll talk a little bit about the opportunity.
Importantly, the investments that we're making are translating into momentum. Alexa mentioned the opportunity. It is pretty amazing if you think about what Gartner has laid out as the incremental AI spend from 2025 to 2030, $1.1 trillion. In the slide that Alexa shared on monetization, we talked about the fact that knowledge workers is a brand-new category. And that we expect software spend to literally double by 2030, all within the framework that we outlined.
So again, another high level -- there is a TAM opportunity out there, and we believe we have the innovation to take advantage of it. Most importantly, we see that innovation already starting to drive our flywheel. So we've talked about our platform. We've talked about the great innovation that we have across the various layers. And more importantly, what we see, particularly with AIforce is the opportunity to unleash or untrap the value within our platform. You saw the excitement in all of the various demos.
I'm not going to share my [indiscernible] center because it does have real numbers looking out. So I won't share it. But ultimately, we really see the future opportunity with the innovation that we have in place today. So I'm going to click in a little bit on the proof points around that. And I'm going to start with the AI native companies, one just left the stage, and you saw how they're leveraging our platform to drive their business. Importantly, 9 out of the 10 top AI companies are building and betting their future on us. That's a huge responsibility, but it's a huge opportunity.
You saw it earlier, 5-plus clouds per customer seat growth growing 62% year-over-year and 100% Slack adoption. We had an experience yesterday that I and my team led with COOs and CFOs. And we actually had the CFO of one of these AI native companies come and speak with us. And she talked about the fact that her morning and her evening ends in Slack, very much like mine. You heard Paul talk about it today. But it's not just the AI companies where we see this happening. We're seeing agentic enterprise expansion in action across our diversified portfolio.
If you think about everyone from automotive to a manufacturing customer, professional services, what we see is that in 80% of our top ARR growth stories, AI shows up. AI is the driver. It's not the only thing, but it allows that expansion to happen. So I just want to drill into one example here, public sector. Here, you can see that with Agentforce, the customer enacted the premium upgrade motion. They took on more Core and Data Foundations. They have monetized 4 of the 6 pillars that Alexa spoke about.
And that's all showing up in a single customer. The results and expansion across our platform resulted in about a 4x increase in ARR for that particular customer over 2 years. And as you can see, there are many different paths to that monetization or that uplift.
One of the things I love listening to Pierre, he talked about that journey that he's on, right? And so what we see is other customers are adopting these AI optionality, we're seeing the monetization of that happen. We're looking at the top 100 AWUs customers, and we're seeing within 18 months of Agentforce's launch, we're seeing ARR uplift about 2x as to what it was.
If we go further into our customer base, we're also seeing ARR meaningfully grow. And again, going back to Pierre's journey, and I'll go back to a slide slightly formatted a bit differently from last time, but we talked about that journey. It is a multiyear process. Pierre talked about the fact that right now, he's adding agents on top. But similar to the transformation we're going on at Salesforce, they still haven't necessarily rethought about their processes relative to Agentifying. So the opportunity is there.
And over a multiple period of time, we see as customers become agentic enterprises, a 3x to 4x opportunity for that ARR uplift. And that's what we're excited about. Again, proof points of the flywheel continuing in motion. So I want to go a little further into our financial performance. Marc shared this slide at the keynote. We've been in the business of helping support customer success with tremendous innovation for over 27 years. Now that's been a combination of organic and inorganic investments.
Last year, I talked about $10 billion or so in R&D investments. You can see the velocity of speed in terms of what we're investing to ensure that we're taking advantage of the AI opportunity. We're also focused on responsible M&A. We closed Informatica in November of last year. And you'll remember, we talked about our responsible M&A framework and making that transaction accretive within 2 years. We're similar to what you saw us do with net new AOV, Informatica was accretive in 6 months. And that was along with the fact that we continue to grow the platform. So again, disciplined execution.
So, I want to drill into our biggest acquisition, and I'm going to say it very simply, Slack is on fire. 2.5x increase since acquisition in revenue. You see all the innovation from Slack Code to Slackbot in Channels to Slackbot Live, amazing innovation. And Slackbot, which is a true friend to me and many others, 150% usage quarter-on-quarter. And as we've said, all the leading AI companies run their business on Slack. Alexa demoed for you, she runs her business on Slack, and you've seen it work. So it is another key growth opportunity for us.
So this progress that we're seeing from an innovation standpoint to increase ARR, it's underpinned by our profitable growth framework, and it's accelerating. The growth drivers we've talked about, the incremental monetization opportunities Miguel and Alexa spoke of and some remain the same, multi-cloud motion, pricing and packaging. You saw from both Patrick and Alexa, the Upgrade Megacycle that we see happening given the innovation we have in hand. We've got a pretty diversified portfolio geographically, different lines of business, sizes of business, different industries.
And the innovation, as you've seen, is pretty incredible. And we're investing in the capacity to make our customers successful. So on the margin side, 1,500-plus basis improvement between '22 and '27, and it continues while we invest. We're looking at ways to reduce the cost to serve, which helps our gross margin. We're investing ourselves in our own transformation, Salesforce on Salesforce or as we call it Customer Zero, and we're being disciplined. We are funding our best opportunities, but not every opportunity.
And that's the continued rebalancing and reshaping of our portfolio that we're doing to support our profitable growth framework. And what does this all mean? It means we're fueling our future with free cash flow. We estimate that this year, it will be about $15 billion. It gives us the flexibility to accelerate our innovation. So I want to drill a little bit into that last pillar of that framework, capital allocation.
There are 2 key principles for us. 1 is responsible M&A and strategic investments and the other is robust capital returns, which I'm sure you as shareholders all care deeply about.
Here's the framework I talked about earlier. It's still in play. It's still how we think about the investments, the acquisitions that we do and those that we walk away from. And if we think about it of late, I want to go into a few key focus areas for us. Data, AI accelerators and a new vector for us, AI Labs. Things that we look at when we're evaluating those opportunities, tech and talent, adjacencies, scalability. In the tech and talent era, I'll call out Doti. This was an acquisition that came to us as an opportunity between our M&A team and the Slack team.
It was a critical component to some of the innovation that you're seeing in Slack. And all the way to the right, we've talked about it, Slack and Informatica, clearly giving us great tailwinds that are helping fuel our growth in our FY '30 framework. So what is AI Labs? AI Labs is a new area of focus for us. It's going to provide us with frontier AI capabilities. It's going to help us accelerate our AI product road map, and it's going to help us unlock new opportunities because as you all know, the pace of innovation, the pace of change is rapid.
We've got a pulse to the ground and AI Labs allows us to be nimble, quick and adaptable. Three examples that sit under that umbrella were Regrello or as we call it Agentforce operations. Fin, which we just welcomed earlier this month and Qualified. You all saw the demo in the keynote of Piper. If you go to our website right now, you'll see Piper. And all of this is grounded in us delivering customer success because as you heard from the customers and Miguel and Alexa, everyone is approaching this agentic enterprise journey differently.
So I want to just drill a little bit more into this ecosystem. It's how we're thinking about one of our CEO's key priorities is do we have the right strategic investments to be successful. So Salesforce Ventures, amazing investments. You can see them there on the wheel on the acceleration wheel. I talked about AI Labs building. We're investing internally in incubation opportunities via AI Labs. I talked about the acquisitions that we're making that sit under that. And oh, by the way, you've heard about our partnership today with Anthropic.
You heard about our partnership with NVIDIA yesterday on stage, and there are many more to come. I think most importantly, we see this innovation flywheel as critical to our success and it allows us to stay ahead of the innovation curve. The other component that I mentioned is capital return. And I think the biggest bet that we've made in FY '27 is on us. We've been buying shares for a long term, $60 billion cumulative, but we launched earlier this year and we'll complete in October, the largest accelerated share repurchase ever.
The return over 40%. The expected average price, $182 a share. The expected share count reduction, over 14%. And again, that brings value to all of you, our shareholders. That is in addition to the $3 billion in dividends that we paid out. So to conclude, the framework that we talked about last year remains intact. We're very confident with the playbooks that we've talked about, with the innovation, with the go-to-market strategy and our path to $63 billion. The confidence is there. The TAM is there.
So to conclude, so we can go to the Q&A. We believe we are winning at the Agentic Enterprise opportunity. We're defining the Agentic Enterprise. The execution is compounding our value. It's unleashing the trapped value. And as I said, the opportunity is ours, and we're confident that the innovation that we're bringing will continue to drive the flywheel. So thank you.
I want to thank the whole executive team. We've had -- we're, of course, saving the best for last. We've had so many requests. People want to see into the mind of Marc, and Marc is with us, and he has graciously offered to give us his time to handle solo Q&A from the audience.
How many people here were -- saw the keynote demo yesterday? Great. How many people didn't make the keynote? Just a couple. Somebody asked me that I'm supposed to say thank you to all the people who sold us the stock at $150. I don't know what that means exactly. But thank you to those people.
We appreciated the volume there. We appreciated the volume in the stock. Okay. So we have -- do we have folks assembled? Do we have someone running a microphone?
I'm happy to do any questions or take a little bit of time...
I want to start with Brad in the middle. Can we get a microphone to Brad, please? Brad, do you want to just speak into [ mic ]. Do you want to speak in my [indiscernible].
This is interesting. This is a little bit different. We're doing a little differently this year, Marc. Brad Zelnick, Deutsche Bank. Thank you again for having all of us. Another spectacular Dreamforce...
You'll get the hot swap.
2. Question Answer
Perfect. And the sneakers never disappoint. I wanted to ask about Slack and as well the evolution of the business. If we reflect back 5 years ago, it was a highly strategic acquisition that you made...
We're very well-received acquisition 5 years ago -- it was everybody support in the room for the acquisition 5 years ago. Thank you guys so much for that.
Ahead of its time. But owning the interaction layer where customers engage, where there's a lot of rich valuable data, we saw the opportunity -- some saw the opportunity. Fast forward to today, we've seen great demos of Slackforce. Alexa, in particular, absolutely crushed it. Patrick showed us Claudeforce as you get pulled where customers take you. You've always been customer first, built on trust. What does the future mix look like? How should we think about the stickiness and opportunities to monetize, whether the customer comes through your front door or someone else's? And does it even matter?
Yes. I think it's such a great question. I think a lot of people know, I'm really just back from 2 months in Europe. And when I was in Europe for the last 2 months, I literally was with hundreds of customers. And it was definitely an awakening for me in many points, but it really resulted in the keynote that you saw yesterday. #1 is this. I would say that -- something is happening over here to the right. I don't know what it is.
Okay. I think we're about done.
All right. Great.
Here we go. Much better.
The #1 thing is that we saw this incredible thing was that -- I mean, it was like really one specific seminal moment. I was with this customer in Lausanne, Switzerland. I don't know if you've been to Geneva, just outside of Geneva. It's a great area on the lake. With one of our very largest or maybe it is our largest customer in Europe. And it was a long exhausted meeting. It was about 3 hours. And we're kind of getting to the end of the meeting, and I was with Rami, who's the CEO of our Swiss business. And we had already released Claudeforce to our distribution organization and our operating unit leaders.
But what we didn't realize -- and I kind of want to get into this a little bit more, is that the platform itself was so powerful that they were going to start using it and building their own application to run their business. And Rami was in front of the CEO of this company and started demonstrating his version of Claudeforce that he had given in a name. He had built this highly customized application to run Salesforce Switzerland. And I will never forget this, but the customer's jaw literally dropped open when they saw what was happening. Which was that the platform was able to kind of read across our entire database, all of our applications and build this highly customized application that let Rami run his business.
And this was kind of an amazing moment. It was only complemented by my own personal experience was we were in the focus groups for the Dreamforce keynote that you saw yesterday and Miguel, who's right here, we were in Beverly Hills. And -- we're going through -- we have customers there. We're presenting to them. I'm sure you know what we do.
It's very exciting. And then we're trying to listen to them. And I just kind of glance over and I look at Miguel. And I see that he has taken Claudeforce, and he is running an application that looked unlike anything I had ever seen. It was incredible, graphical, dynamic, very interactive, very intelligent. And he was kind of switching between that and Slack and so forth.
And it just all of a sudden occurred to me, everything is really changing because of what is happening at the interface lever. And at this interface layer, we're really seeing this kind of transformational moment. So this was that thought that -- and I don't know if I'm going to be able to express this correctly, but there are certain moments in our industry where everything is changing. And this is that moment for enterprise. We saw it when we were doing IBM mainframes and then we went into minicomputers, but then all of a sudden, we started to go into client server computing. We saw it when we were moving client server computing and then all of a sudden, we were doing cloud computing.
And now we're moving from cloud computing, and we're moving into this new platform. And that's why yesterday, I kind of went through these four strategic layers of how our software is architected. And for those of you who have been coming to these Dreamforces and going through these things, you'll see we really haven't had to kind of spell it out quite like that. The data layer where the data is integrated and federated and harmonized the application and semantic layer, which before we were just talking about the applications and the power of the applications. But now we're talking about how the applications and the analytics provide the intelligence for the AI, the agentic layer, which we have been talking about Agentforce, but not as part of the comprehensive platform and now a transformational interface.
And that transformational interface, I think, is why -- I think for a lot of customers, as you kind of travel around, they'll say, they really haven't had their enterprise AI transformation. I don't think most companies feel and probably a lot of companies are represented in the room that when you go to work, you feel like, oh, yes, AI has really changed everything in our company. Maybe people are still having their ChatGPT moment at home or on their phones. But when they get to their office, are they feeling like, yes, wow, everything is different in our company. But it's extremely clear to me, and I'm very confident that we are now at that moment where all of a sudden, we are going to see a rapid transformation of the enterprise.
And what we're doing with all of these customers today is showing them how to kind of guide that transformation. Now we're showing it to them with three different interfaces. One, we're showing it to them with all built on our Agentforce framework. We're showing it to them on Claude and Coworker. We're showing it to them with Slack, like you mentioned, and you've seen now Slackforce. And we're also showing to them with Coworker. In all three cases, you can see how the platform is intelligent, it's adaptive, it builds these composite applications, but also that it's very kind of like it's alive or it's a living interface. Only in the movies have we really seen software that looks like this.
We have never really seen software in the enterprise that has these characteristics. So this is definitely that moment. So for these companies and customers who see this experience, they all realize this is now the North Star. Now while we showed you three of these interfaces, okay, by the time we get back here or let's say, by even as we kind of get into January 1 of next year, I'm confident you'll have a lot of different interfaces. The interface, customers will be able to choose their religion up here. We're agnostic. That's, I think, one big advantage we're going to have is the agnostic aspect of the interface. But we're going to give customer choice. I think customers will have different religious preferences up here. There's no question.
And by the time we get back here to Dreamforce next year, I think we will see a lot of customers who have made a huge transformation. One of the reasons why it's going to go so fast is because those customers, as they start to deploy this interface, the interface is so intelligent. It's helping those customers implement it with them. So Miguel or Rami, they didn't have huge tech teams with them to implement this technology. They're not -- it's not like the -- it's not some type of incredible enterprise transformation. You're going to end up with an enterprise transformation, but the interface itself is so smart, it can do three critical things.
One, it can help administer Salesforce. That's extremely important because there's thousands of different characteristics of Salesforce. That's why these administrators can get in there and they have to kind of work with it in the different administration centers. Two, it's going to let them build these applications. And three, it's going to then let them operate the applications. So that's why you can get an operating unit leader or a business leader like Miguel or Rami to all that sudden have this incredible capability. So this is what we are really excited about. And I think we are really uniquely positioned to offer this to customers for like one really important reason.
And I think that you can kind of see how it kind of played out in that we -- I think I did a tweet earlier this year about Salesforce headless. And all of a sudden, this headless idea went super viral. But while that happened, I was actually kind of shocked because it seemed to me Salesforce has always been headless. People were excited that we had an MCP API, but we had an XML API, a SOAP API, a REST API. It's just a maturation of our API platform. And the other key characteristic beside that we have -- we're built on a robust API strategy, and we always have, is that our applications especially the ones that are built in Lightning. Lightning is not just a runtime environment, it's a design environment.
So those customers have designed those applications and have decomposed them into the metadata. The metadata is stored for all those customers in the database. So to your point before, that metadata then is recomposed into browsers today. Into HTML browser, Safari, Chrome, Mozilla, whatever. We don't have a religious choice up there either. Now, the browser level is transformed. And instead of having that level, you have Coworker or you're going to have other opportunities up here, quite a few, I'm sure, that let you build and chat and create and so forth. And now that kind of very -- call it, an intelligent browser. It can read through that same metadata and then recompose those applications.
And because our platform knows what the applications look like, what the data is, the user models, the sharing models, it is informed by the semantic layer as well. Instantly, you get that application. That is something I've never seen before in my career. I don't think anybody has ever seen this. I think it's by far the most exciting thing I've ever seen. It's totally unexpected and the value that customers are going to be able to receive will be incredible. And that's why we're -- that's why we have not -- I couldn't have been more excited to do the presentation yesterday. I think it was like, wow, this is really -- this is a dramatic moment, and we are uniquely positioned for that moment.
And I'm confident that -- and I don't know how many of your companies today use Salesforce to run your various operations. So there's a few. That is an immediate opportunity for you to turn on. It is not something that you're going to wait for, and you will be living in that environment the way Miguel or Rami are living in that environment today and soon, thousands of customers.
Okay. Fantastic. Let's stay in the front row and go to Kirk.
Kirk Materne, Evercore. Marc, to your point on religious preferences, you guys are agnostic. You had two of the biggest CEOs of AI companies with you yesterday. And I think part of the reason they look to Salesforce...
One, we had also Sam Altman here as well. So there were three. I don't know which two you were saying.
I was including the AI. I wasn't leaving Jensen out. So you had all three. But to the point on the AI models themselves, I think one of the reasons...
Okay, I won't tell Jensen he said that.
I'm not tall enough for him to make fun of me. So it's -- the point I was trying to get at was, I think whatever your model preference, enterprises, in particular, are looking for trust and they need to understand that whatever I do from a model perspective, I need my other enterprise vendors to make sure that my data is safe, the workflows I'm building are safe and are my workflows.
Do you think that you all can bring a level of trust to AI that will accelerate this? It seems in the enterprise market, not only have people been waiting for sort of faster time to value, but they're concerned about making a decision today that could backfire on them in a few years. What are you hearing from clients on that front right now? Because I do think it's important that they're watching models jump each other and they're saying, well, I don't want to make a big decision on something until I feel comfortable that the entire stack can move forward with me.
So I was just kind of curious if you talk about trust and it goes hand-in-hand with safety and then sort of what are clients talking about on that front?
Okay. So I think there's a lot of different questions in there, but I'll try to zero in on one, which is when I'm with customers -- like that customer that I was in Lausanne, I'll use that example. They're -- basically say this, they're not shopping around for models. What they say is we have three platforms that we run our business on. We have back office, SAP. We have front office, Salesforce, and we have a productivity suite, Microsoft. And the vast majority of customers that I met with, for example, in Europe, that is their core architecture. They're not kind of -- they're not -- I think we get brainwashed by these podcasts thinking that this is like the most important thing.
Well, this model now has this characteristic and that model has that characteristic. That's not where customers' minds are at. So customers' minds are like, they're operating their businesses, and they're using our technology to run their sales, their marketing, their service, close their books, provide capability to their employees. And that idea that customers are shopping around for different model vendors, I think that, that is not where their consciousness is. I think that the vast majority of customers will purchase their AI through packaged software. That's where the value will get provided. Through packaged software like ours, not in some bespoke, they're not -- they don't have the expertise or capability to do that.
That is you need to have a -- that is not where customers' heads are at. I think I can speak authoritatively on that at this point. And what I would say, though, in regards to trust, like when we hear other vendors say, well, if you're using such and such model, you're giving them all your intellectual property, that is not true. You're being told something to kind of reset your own frame on how to view that company. That is not true. That is a company that has their own agenda. And for the last 3 years, we've delivered a trust layer so that none of our customers' data has ever gone into a model and never will. We validated that and we have audited that. We provide a high level of trust.
We just reengineered the trust layer with Anthropic and OpenAI specifically, and it has 0 data retention. No customer data goes into that model ever. So when you're being told some of these things, you have to remember, people have their agendas that they're trying to get you to act in a certain way.
I think that, that was kind of at some level, the core of the SaaSpocalypse. And look, a lot of people made a lot of money on that. There's no question, okay? Well -- we're making some money on the other side of it, okay? But that we didn't create it, all right? And I mean I know who created it, how it was managed, but it's like that's in the same way other vendors have their specific agendas.
So when you're being told, well, you know that you're trading your intellectual property into a model, you need to realize that is not true. I don't know any example of that happening. So what I see is that what customers really want is they want an enterprise AI transformation. They can see that there is technology that could make them radically more productive and more successful. The way they are experiencing in their individual life where they can put some of their personal data into these models and then get some kind of an insight, they want that to run their business. So we know it's possible because we're living that now.
So, if you go and spend time with Miguel, you'll see, and you should take him aside or any of our executives aside, and you'll see that incredible experience. I'm confident we now have a highly differentiated, okay -- experience for the customers based on AI that is at the absolute pinnacle of what is possible. And I think we demonstrated it yesterday, and these customers have now an absolute true North Star of how to take their companies forward.
But in these companies who have spent billions of dollars of investing in Salesforce, like this example I give -- I'll keep going back and forth to this example in Switzerland. That company has spent billions of dollars putting Salesforce in. It just is going to go to an incredible new level for them. And the only reason that we know that is we've now done it for ourselves.
So I think we have more productivity and more capability because of what we've done with our platform, with the interface and also with Slack and other things that we're doing as customer zero, we're going to try to do this with every single customer. Does this make sense? I really wanted to directly address the ZDR issue. So I'm glad you set that up for me. Thank you.
Thank you, Kirk. Let's go to Alex in the front.
Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. Truly inspiring presentation on all fronts. When we talk to customers and we do a lot of survey work, we do a lot of direct questioning, I think the main question is how much does it cost? And from the vantage point of you're putting out a truly differentiated amount of innovation and functionality, you're also being very flexible in how you price it, SKUs, consumption, value-based outcomes.
When you think about the distribution of how much value goes to the model versus goes to the harness or the app, in the future, over the course of the next few years, how much of that can you capture? And how do you explain that to customers of what they should be willing to pay for Salesforce?
Yes. I think that one of the most interesting things that's happening -- and this is a challenge for Miguel, so he should probably weigh in here and how I've tried to influence them, I'll tell you my own personal narrative, which is that every customer wants something slightly different on pricing. Some customers want per user pricing. It gives them predictability. They understand the cost structure. It makes sense to them. Some customers want per agent pricing. Some customers want consumption pricing. Some customers want usage pricing. Some customers want transaction outcome pricing, that is I've completed the transaction, therefore, I'm paying for that.
And some customers want business outcome pricing, which I have never seen before. But now they're like, if you save me so much money, I'll give you a percentage of that. If you make this much money, I'll give you a percentage of that. No one majority of customers can you drop in any one of these buckets. So what we've said to our entire sales organization is we are giving you ultimate flexibility to write the best deal for that customer. We want Miguel to know that he can go walk into a customer and say -- Miguel has a very large distribution organization. You know the size and scale of it. And basically not be constrained in any way and say, this is the right price for you. That is the way to get the most value.
And over and over again -- you have to remember, we have many different ways to get value. One is that agreement that we're writing. Another is also fundamentally reducing our attrition like we've done, also increases our value dramatically to our shareholders. So especially as we kind of cross now into the $50 billion in revenue, which very few software companies have ever done, we have a brand-new product line, and we have a brand-new approach to pricing.
So, you saw in the second quarter, attrition had reached kind of a very low level, contract length had come to a very high level. Cash flow and margin and revenue levels were very respectable, and we had very clear trajectory going forward where you saw the cRPO growth.
All of those things are critical and that I think our relevance has never been higher for these companies. Our ability to walk into any customer now and to show them a piece of technology that can radically transform their company very, very rapidly is unprecedented. And one more thing, it is not going to require a huge amount of people to do it because the technology is working part and parcel with the user to achieve the result. I only know this because it's happening in my company in a dramatic way. I'm not having to wait years for this transformation. I did not have to hire thousands of people to achieve it.
That is going to be very exciting for our customers. They still have to deploy Salesforce, but they can also do that in a much more expedited way. They still need to make sure their data is right because if their data is not right, their AI will not be right no matter what they're doing. And they can also deploy a fully integrated agentic environment as part of this. So when you get that working, it is just epic. And like I said, this is like stuff for the movies is what I'm seeing. And go back and look at the demos from the keynote, it's on YouTube, whatever. I have -- these were not canned demos.
Like Patrick, he has a lot of different versions of the demo because he has a lot of crazy prompts on how the demo was built, different style sheets and all kinds of different -- like he's laughing because he came up with so many crazy ways to present what he showed yesterday because he can -- he is building it. This is really special. And I think this is really going to transform computing. Do you want to now address the pricing issue? I don't know if I explained it. Did I answer your question?
Very good explanation. So Robin, in preparing for this event last year, you introduced a new mantra that we are using in every single conversation, which is we have to meet customers wherever they are in the journey. So we've come up -- at the time, we had 3 or 4 ways to monetize pricing commercial frameworks. We've added a bunch of them. Alexa and I, every time that we have a conversation with a customer, we find a new way to price our product. You'd be -- Marc, you've been happy and you'll be proud. I mean your message is very clear. We are now pushing very aggressively outcome-based pricing.
I mean Alexa and I meet hundreds of customers every quarter. Today, I met two customers. I made two outcome-based proposals. One was a PE firm. And what I agree with the PE firm is give me one of your companies -- portfolio companies that you're going to invest in and flip it after 5 years. We'll put an army of people and technology, and we get a percentage of the value that you drive. And at that point, let's say that the percentage is $300 million because they sell it, they buy it for $2 billion, they sell it for $5 billion. We get $300 million or $400 million ticket, and then we create a subscription out of that over 5 years. I mean we have multiple ways.
Adecco was on stage. They were reluctant to sign the first ELA, which took them to a different level of spend with us because they were not absolutely clear. Now not even a year into the ELA, we are now discussing, okay, this is going to -- we're going to run out of magic of how -- what are we going to do next? And I say, you know what, your time to place has been reduced by -- employees by 40%. Your number of placements have increased by 10%. What if we agree on a couple of metrics and then we share in your success? The guy wants to do it.
It's -- everybody wins here. And just to finish with one comment, Marc, I actually -- the reason I haven't -- I couldn't show my Claudeforce, I call it Miguelforce, but it's my Claudeforce is because I run the whole company data, and it's very obviously delicate. But you know what I did last night, I told Coworker that put a demo toggle on the top. So when I'm showing and I have it there and I already offer them to show my whole cockpit of the whole business of the company, I will click the toggle and then all of a sudden, all the numbers and the text gets blurred, but it's the same application. And it's -- we have made working with SaaS applications fun again. It's a lot of fun to put your hands in a keyboard and look at -- and then, by the way, I'm doing the more and I'm doing to the teams. It's -- yes, but we are doing business in the meantime.
There'll be translation available at the end of the program as well.
A Spanish trombone. Okay. Let's go to Karl back here.
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The first part is -- what I'm trying to do is what I've always done, which is actually provide a North Star for the whole industry. I'm trying to take the whole industry somewhere. We try to do that. Obviously, we want to do that with our philanthropic model. So let's take that off the table, the 1-1-1 model. We're trying to do that with our business model, but we are trying to do that with our technology model, too. And now we've slightly pivoted our technology model. So I kind of went through the four layers with you exactly like as I've done it now with hundreds of customers on this European trip and then that kind of got to the point in the keynote.
Now we get into two different places. One is I think a lot of you, but I don't know how many -- not all of the enterprise applications companies, #1, are API first the way we are; and #2 are not metadata first. There are still quite a few of these software companies that coded their applications. That is -- there is still kind of a ghost of client server past where the applications are fixed. They have not -- they don't resolve into full metadata. Some of them are full metadata systems, but some of them are not. So we have to kind of then bifurcate into those two worlds.
For the ones who do have metadata systems that are API first, you are going to be able to move very, very rapidly. For the ones that aren't, it's going to look a little bit like, did you see the keynote where we brought up the SAP screens and we're scraping and then we're working with the agent in the screens. That's a good example of what that's going to look like for companies that have kind of more of that fixed application set, okay?
A customer -- all companies are going to really have to move to what our architecture is going to have to -- what it is. The third piece is that when we're actually building these applications to help you run your business, we believe that the kind of things that the majority of employees in the company want to use, that is things that are focused on the customers, the products, the competitiveness of the company, its market position, its ability to collaborate, to share, to market itself, those applications are where we command and control the market.
So that is where we have a very unique and special position and that our applications are extremely relevant for our customers. In some cases, some of our competitors maybe have niche types of functionality. I don't have to get into all of the details, but some of their applications are not mainstream business data that is appropriate for large groups of users. Ours is. Because ours is for large groups of employees, that's where we're going to offer the most value in this application transformation. And I think that it kind of plays out with the customers. So I think you'll see it kind of go forward.
Obviously, we've seen a couple of killer apps so far in AI. One is the ChatGPT moment, okay? The second is the Claude Code moment where we have the coding agents. And now we have the third one, which is kind of the Coworker area. And Anthropic has been a really good idea. That's why we're so proud to be like investors in Anthropic. Like we -- John did a brilliant maneuver by buying hundreds of millions of dollars of Anthropic stock that has turned into probably what will be tens of billions of dollars of Anthropic stock. Obviously, we probably will not hold that stock in the long term. That's not our role. We'll end up probably selling it and paying off our ASR debt.
So it will be a good trade for us. We'll be trading our Anthropic stock for the 14% dilution that we gained back in our equity, not bad trade. I'll take it any day of the week. So thank you, John, for your leadership and great execution. But we, I think, are extremely well positioned. And I do think that, yes, we will motivate a radical transformation for the industry. We'll get there faster because we command and control the market because of the size and scale of our distribution organization and because we cut across small and medium businesses, large and very large businesses as well, and we can get to the -- we are getting to the market faster.
You can see that. I think that you'll probably say that maybe we're the first to show you what you saw yesterday. I think that, that's extremely important. I mean you follow the market super closely. And I guarantee you that by the end of the year, we will have several other extremely mission-critical motivating announcements at the interface layer. You can only imagine, I'm sure you could do the strategy at this point yourself on what all the different opportunities are at the interfaces.
Now that we have AIforce, we can slot in every other vendor. Obviously, we had to choose which vendor we were going to prioritize, which we did. But -- and I think we made the correct decision. We met the #1 AI with the #1 CRM. That was our goal. But we are -- there's no exclusive deals. We are going to provide a full family of interfaces based on whatever the customer's religion is.
Great. Let's go to Samik right here in the front.
Samik from JPMorgan. Great event. Maybe if I can get your thoughts on what's your vision with Koa, the model that you launched yesterday. You talked about training it on synthetic data, but when we think about sort of how does that drive value for the customer? How should I think about that? And clearly, with this event, your pace of innovation being ahead of your peers is visible. Does that sort of also then something we expect to see with how you train some of these internally developed models and take that forward in your portfolio?
Okay. Well, I'll have Rohan speak, and I don't know. Is Silvio here also or not? So I'll have Rohan then kind of fill in the details. But I think for a while, we've been -- we have -- you probably know we have a long history of delivering models about a decade. If you go to the Hugging Face, you'll see so many of our models have become very pioneering, including prompt engineering itself was built at Salesforce, but models like BLIP and xGen and others.
So we've always had a vision though of actually delivering a CRM model. And we think that there are certain things that we could do for customers with a CRM model that would be quite good, but we have not really wanted the price tag, okay? But with Nemotron, we now kind of have the ability to fine-tune a model without spending an exorbitant cost. And so that's the vision for Koa, is to take this vision that we have, which we call kind of CRMverse or Customerverse and apply it to the Koa model and to use Nemotron as the reference architecture. And I think it will be very exciting. Do you want to fill in the details?
No, I think, Marc, you captured it really well. So there's maybe just one more thing that I'll add. Obviously, there's 27 years of product making in CRM and sort of having those domain-specific models makes a lot of sense. And to Mark's point, like these open-weight models like Nemotron sort of make the post-training part of it a lot more amenable from a compute cost. That's what we've done. The other part essentially is this whole notion of data prep. So you can imagine like in the future, customers might want to use their own data and their own environment to sort of extend these open-weight models as well.
So there's an opportunity for us to actually build out the factory, like how do you go create that as a part of the data layer and make that available to the customers. Like they -- the most -- the bigger enterprise want to go build that on and they can do it themselves.
This is for a really discrete set of customers. As I said, I think most customers are going to want to receive the power of that through the applications themselves through packaged software. The vast majority of customers in the world will receive AI through packaged software companies. They will not be wanting to kind of spin up their own and running their own model. But for some discrete customers who want to have that kind of capability, we want to be able to offer that to them. Yes.
Wonderful. Thank you, Samik. Let's go to John.
It's John DiFucci from Guggenheim. So Marc, you and your team, I think, did a great job. I think everybody knows us at sort of exposing the SaaS-apocalypse as a hallucination. But I think that you'd agree with me that your stock is still pretty cheap. When I listen to your whole team today, one question kept coming up in my mind. Is Salesforce trying to become a next-gen CRM solution during the AI era? Or are you -- is this opportunity, this technology paradigm shift, an opportunity to become the trusted platform to bring AI across the entire enterprise? And I know you always think big. But I just -- is that something you aspire to?
Well, I think you have to prioritize that. I think you have to realize, #1, the most important thing for our company is we must be the #1 CRM. Nothing is more important than that. We have a tremendous position with our customers, as you know. Like I gave you the example of the three platforms. You could -- I think the number of customers that use that analogy with me was exhaustive. So we must maintain that position no matter what. And then number two is if we get there ahead of all the other companies, and we can show that through the flexibility and nimbleness of our platform, we can deliver this total enterprise transformation for you, we are -- we will do it. But it has to be a prioritization. You see, in software, if everything is important, nothing is important.
You have to choose. You have to decide what you really want. And I really believe the revenue opportunity for us the value opportunity, the differentiation opportunity and the ability to continue to lead our customers is, first and foremost, with that CRM opportunity that we have to continue to control that.
You saw -- I did -- I don't know if you saw this morning, I did a discussion with Roland Busch, the CEO of Siemens. He obviously, I visited with him also in his headquarters in Munich. It's a great example. Here's one of the very largest companies in the world, certainly in Europe, and they've been standardized on Salesforce. We must be their CRM standard. There cannot be -- that cannot be a discussion.
But do you think that there aren't other companies in there who would like to have that position? There are. Is it a constant discussion with them? Of course. We're in a highly competitive market. So we have to, #1, make sure that we secure that position. Now once we've secured that position, can we move on and then offer that capability to others? Absolutely.
Do we have that ability? We do. You can see it in the way we've architected our own systems. We are our own enterprise AI standard, right? But we have to be #1. And that's why when you look at the demonstrations that you saw yesterday, they are mostly focused on the customer area because I believe that is where we have to be #1. If you have a different position or think we should have a different strategy, I'm open to the discussion. I've definitely read a lot of what you've written recently. So I just think like -- this is the most important thing. And I think that -- were you surprised when you saw the keynote yesterday? Was there anything that shocked you? Or is it what you mostly expected?
I thought it was impressive, but it was -- I'd come to expect that kind of stuff. And by the way, your answer is exactly what I hoped you'd say.
Okay. All right. Well, there we go. Thank you. Well, that's what I believe. Okay.
Actually, right behind you, we have Adam, if you want to hand it.
It's Adam Wood from Morgan Stanley. So Marc, you talked a lot about the tech transformations to delivery of software that's happened. We've seen a lot less innovation on the payment side of how companies pay. Again, you alluded to how that's changing now. When we think about what replaces the seat is the unit value of software, do you have a vision of that in the midterm? Or what's the most likely model to replace the seat?
And then secondly, to the extent that's difficult to call today, how confident are you that the re-acceleration in the organic top line you see for the second half of this year can sustain smoothly rather than being kind of lumpy because of that risk of different pricing models proliferating?
I really am so optimistic because of the customer response that that's where I'm like, I think we got this really right. I think we are ahead of everyone. I think we reinforced everyone's confidence in the company and our ability to help lead all of these customers en masse I am shocked that we're there before anyone else. It is hugely surprising. I thought it was a shock that so many people actually push back on us even on the Claudeforce announcement. I don't think they really understand what's going on. I think there's still a lot of confusion. I think there's a lot of people who live in podcast world and don't live with the customers. I think it's a huge mistake.
I think what I see is we are so addicted to social media. I'm saying collectively, we're on X. We're on -- we're reading these things. We're watching these podcasts. We don't realize we're all part of a huge psyop and that misinformation is being shot at us constantly. And this is where the only way to break all that down is to get out with the customers. That is reality. When you're with the CEO and the CIO or the CRO or the COO or the head of sales and you are actually talking. What do you need to run your business? What do you need to buy from us? What is really important to you? What are my competitors saying? That is reality and these other things are not reality.
And I think this is where we can get really confused. And that's why for the last several years, I just kind of hang it up and I move in with the customers. And I think it's so important right now. And I think that, that's the way to really maximize the revenue for the company. I think it has been an amazing 3 years in terms of the way we've transformed the company. You guys have watched it. And the company that we have today is not the company that we had 3 years ago. Obviously, it's a different management team, but it's a different technology set. It's a fundamentally different position with the customers. And I think this is what the customers wanted.
We only did this because it's what the customers wanted us to do. In some case, they had an unarticulated need. They needed this, but they didn't know how to say it. They would say they wanted us to transform their company and make them AI first, but they did not know how. They could see the power in the models and the power and the capability, but they didn't know what could we do to make it happen. And then only when all of a sudden, we're like, let us show you this that they said, this is exactly what we want. And that is when we're like, now let's hit the gas on this.
So I was with one specific customer. I won't go through the details. They're a large automotive supplier, and they're based in Milan, Italy. And I was with them, and it was a fascinating conversation. They are huge customers of us on the front office, but they -- I was with the CEO and the COO, and they were doing supply chain scenario work using Coworker. And every morning, they're hand feeding the supply chain information into Coworker because that's the best they're doing. And then they switch over Lightning and Slack to run their business. And I'm like, I can show you a slightly different way to do this. They knew what they wanted, but they didn't know how to get it. It's not their world.
Just by making the -- they're here, but just by making that slight shift, then now they can go forward. And like I said, they can go forward very, very fast. So that is what is exciting to me. So I think we're going to see these incredible transformations. I think it's going to happen over the next 12, no more than 24 months. And this should be like an opportunity, as I've said for Miguel, we only had two goals in the keynote. One is to -- talked to the team, this was our collective intention. One, we want to motivate the enterprise transformation. Kind of to what John was saying, but a bigger -- on a bigger scale.
We want to motivate the enterprise transformation, CRM first, but across the board. Two, okay, we want to motivate the upgrade also. We also want to make it clear that we want them to step into the higher version to be able to get the full value. We know for customers who've already done that, they feel a huge amount of value by stepping into our higher version. This is where we're going strategically. That's why if you take apart our slides, you'll see that, that was our strategy all the way throughout. Does that answer your question? Okay.
Okay. So Marc, you're on a roll, but technically, we're at the end. What would you like...
All right. I could do one more question. How is that?
Let's do one more. Would you like to choose someone from the audience?
Not really.
Okay. How about I do that? Let's go to Tyler.
Tyler Radke from Citi. So you made the comment that you think enterprises are going to buy AI through packaged software. Obviously, we see the enormous growth that Anthropic, OpenAI are putting up. Given so much focus in recent weeks on trust, is it a strategic bet that makes sense for Salesforce to offer kind of AI reselling or some sort of model routing just as you're sort of this intermediary between the customer, their data and the model.
All of that is going to be built into everything you saw. The idea that -- we want to definitely be monetizing the token spend as part of our product line. I think a great example is -- I don't know if you've seen what we've done with Slack recently, but not only do you have Slack CRM where you can front-end Salesforce with Slack. Not only do you have Slackforce where you have the ability to build a whole new surface, but you have Slack Code. I don't know if we demonstrated to you today where you can code in Slack as a multiplayer experience. Today, coding agents are still mostly single player.
Slack Code is really the first multiplayer experience where all these companies who are using Slack already can now code in the channels. Our goal is to provide smart routing technology that we'll be able to monetize to be able to kind of sell you the tokens as well. But you can imagine that's an example of companies want to buy their AI through packaged software. So we should be able to like distribute those tokens through Slack. We should be able to distribute those tokens through all of our enterprise applications as well. Initially, it's not -- doesn't have to be step 1 for what we're doing. The most important thing is to deliver the base functionality that lets customers get the value. And then step 2 is let them kind of step into the ability for us to distribute the tokens. Does that make sense?
Well, I just want to thank you so much for coming to Dreamforce. I'm sure you know how grateful we are to all of you for being here. We -- I want to emphasize to you that the customers are untethered to you. We want you to go and talk to them. I know a lot of you do surveys and evaluations of what the customers' responses are. We don't want any constraints on any of the sessions that you can go to or trade shows or spending time with the customers. And I'm also looking forward to more quality time with everybody. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much. How about a big round of applause Marc. Thank you so much, Marc.
If we can remain seated for just a moment, I also just wanted to take a quick moment to say thank you to the IR team. First off, starting with Val right over here. You all know Val. Also, Alex, right in the back, everyone. Alex raising your hand. Thank you so much. Lauren is in the back. Here's Lauren back here. Sam is probably -- where is Sam? Sam is back here. This way. Is Anna in the room? There she is right there. Thank you, Anna. And everyone else that was related to this event in some way, I just want to thank everyone so kindly.
[Operator Instructions] So thank you so much for your time and attention.
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Salesforce — Analyst/Investor Day - Salesforce, Inc.
Investor Day: Salesforce präsentiert Agentic-/AI-Strategie mit Live-Demos (Claudeforce, Coworker, Slack), Kunden-Piloten und neuen Monetarisierungshebeln.
Agenda: Technologie‑Stack, Go‑to‑Market, Kundenbeispiele, Sicherheit & Finanzen; Q&A mit Marc Benioff.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Fokus: Salesforce setzt auf ein „Agentic Enterprise“-Ökosystem: Data 360 (Datenharness), Agent‑Layer (Agentforce/Coworker) und neue Interface‑Surfaces (Claudeforce, Slackforce) zur schnellen Produktivsetzung von KI‑Agenten.
- Ziel: Kunden sollen AI-Funktionen in bestehende Geschäftsprozesse integrieren (lesen, synthese, ggf. schreiben) – mit Governance, Identität und Kostenkontrolle als Pflichtbestandteile.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Produkt: Claudeforce (Anthropic‑Integration) in Open Beta; Coworker als in‑App Agent‑Surface; Slack als low‑latency Agent OS.
- Daten & Sicherheit: Data 360 + Informatica für vertrauenswürdige Kontextbildung; Salesforce Guardian/Agent Fabric für Agent‑Identität, Klassifizierung, Observability und FinOps.
- Monetarisierung: Mehrere Preismodelle (User, Agent, Consumption, Outcome); Upgrade‑Motion auf AI Force Max als Premium‑Pfad.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Claudeforce: Open Beta, viele Pilotkunden; Siemens zeigte Pilot nach ~1 Woche; Kunden bauen produktive Command‑Centres.
- AI Force Max: Neues Angebot – Management nannte $550/Benutzer/Monat als Listenpreis für die Max‑Edition (Enthält u.a. Slack‑Integrationen).
- Kundenmetriken: Adecco: 7 Agenten in 12 Ländern, 2.7 Mio. Gespräche YTD, ~20k Interviews/Woche, 40% schnellere Kandidaten‑Präsentation, +10% Fill‑Rate; deutliche frühe ROI‑Signale.
- Modelle: Eigenes CRM‑Reasoning‑Modell „Koa“ (auf Nemotron) angekündigt für langlebige Agenten/Sequenzen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Slack‑Monetarisierung: Nachfrage nach wie Kunden Slack als Interface und Umsatstreiber nutzen; Management betont starke Slack‑Adoption, mehrere Wege zur Monetarisierung (Seats, API/consumption, integrierte Token‑Verteilung).
- Vertrauen & Daten: Reihum die zentrale Frage: Wird Kundendaten‑Schutz eingehalten? Antwort: Salesforce hebt 0‑Retention/Trusted‑connectors hervor, Guardian/Shield‑Funktionen und Partnerschaften (Anthropic, NVIDIA) als Sicherheitsmaßnahmen.
- Pricing & Capture: Wie viel Wert geht an Modelle vs. Harness/Apps? Management: flexible, kundenspezifische Kommerzmodelle (User, Agent, outcome‑based) – Ziel ist, Wert sowohl technisch als auch kommerziell zu teilen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Der Event machte die Produktvision praktisch: schnelle Prototypen bis produktive Agenten, erste Großkunden‑Erfolge und ein klarer Kommerzpfad. Risiken bleiben bei Adoptionstempo, Modell‑Evolution und Preistransparenz, aber die Kombination aus Daten‑harness, Sicherheitsfunktionen und Vertriebskapazität stärkt die Chance auf nachhaltige ARR‑Expansion.
Salesforce — Dreamforce 2026 Main Keynote
1. Management Discussion
Well, we're going to go to the keynote. Thank you guys so much. It's time for the keynote room with Marc Benioff and the Dreamforce main keynote, a new day for Trailblazers.
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And now our CEO and Chair, Mr. Marc Benioff.
Good morning, everybody. Is this microphone on? Good morning, everybody. We are so thrilled to have everybody here. What a great, great group this is. Wow, can you look around this room, it's amazing what's happening here. Totally incredible. We are going to have an amazing day. We're going to have an amazing conference. We have been on the road exhaustively for the last 2 months. I've been in Europe myself for the last 2 months. You're going to hear some stories about that. Then we got back here. United States, we did some incredible focus groups with all of you getting ready for this amazing Dreamforce keynote.
And let me just tell you this. We have never been more excited about a Dreamforce in our history. This is going to be absolutely incredible. You're going to see some truly amazing technology. You're going to meet some incredible people, and we hope to open a door for all of you. Now for the last 2 months, I've been in Europe. It's been amazing. I've met with hundreds of you. You've inspired me, you've energized me. You've really shown me what the future was. And it's been an incredible experience. But I'll tell you something amazing that occurred to me while I was in Europe. I had this awesome meeting with one of our top customers in Lausanne, Switzerland. And it was like exhausting long meeting. It was like 3 hours. And we were getting down to the end of the meeting, and I was like, I really want to show you what we're going to do at Dreamforce. It's going to be amazing.
And so finally, I had our CEO of Switzerland with us. He's here today. I said, all right, let's show them this amazing new technology, and we showed them the beginning of something we're going to show you today called AIforce. And they started using this platform. We've been using this kind of build and run our company now for several months. It's been transformational for us. In this case, we were using the version built on Claude, we call it Cowork. And this Claudeforce product, we're going to about to show you for the first time, the customer at the end of it said, this is really something like I see several things.
One, we had built a full new interface across their entire enterprise and did a complete AI transformation in real time with the customer. That was awesome. But number 2 was this. The customer said, wow, what I see happening right now is that you are really unleashing for me, trapped value in my system that I knew was there, locked in the metadata, locked in my systems and for the first time, for the first time, for the first time they saw that trap value coming into real value for their company. That's when we realized we could say, hey, I meet this #1 CRM Salesforce and unlock this trapped value from anywhere.
Now I want to just tell you, we are here to do many things with you. And one of the things you're going to see is that when we get into this incredible platform for our Trailblazers. Do we have any Trailblazers in the audience today? We've got a couple of them here. For our Trailblazers, this is the most empowering piece of technology we've seen. It really becomes a partner for you. It becomes a partner in helping you to execute the next generation of your enterprise. And these demonstrations that you're going to see are unlike anything we have ever demonstrated at Dreamforce before.
Now as you know, we are here to excite you. We are here to motivate you. We are here to inspire you but most of we are here to do what? Thank you. Thanks to each and every one of you for what you do for us every single day. We are so grateful to you for what you do for us. We know that you have a choice in vendors, and we know that you have a choice in where you have to put your time and to come here to this show and spend time with us, it's very meaningful to us. So thanks for being a great customer. Thank you for coming to San Francisco, and thank you for coming to this incredible Dreamforce. Now 20 years of these Trailblazers. It's been 20 years of these Trailblazers, 23 million Trailblazers all over the world, 90 countries, 700 community groups.
I saw Steve Mo got an amazing blue blazer. Where are you? Got your golden blazer, standup, Steve. Here's Steve. Great job. Yes. How long have you been with Trailblazer now?
I celebrated my Salesforce birthday, the day that my first user ID was created in August of 2003.
Steve, we could not be more proud of you and how you have lit up the whole community and you just guide us everywhere all over the world. Thank you for being such a great partner of Salesforce. Great job, Steve. Incredible. And Steve represents each of those 23 million Trailblazers all over the world. It's going to be an amazing show with all these Trailblazers. And as I said, I think the technology that you're going to see is going to really take all you guys to another level.
But listen, listen. This is the biggest and most important dream for us ever. And we've got all the greatest players here. We've got all the most incredible people from all over the world, the Dario is going to be in the keynote in a little bit. We've got Jensen is going to be here. We've got Sam speaking here later, Tony and Rob, we have all of our friends here. Isn't that amazing? And one more thing. We have 1,600 sessions for you. One really critical point about these sessions, we expect you to go to each and every one of them. We put a lot of work into them, 1,600. Let's do that. Okay. Tomorrow night, how was [indiscernible]? Was that awesome?
Yes. Well, we also have Usher coming as well. That's going to be awesome. And here's one more thing. We're going to be giving another incredible $10 million to the UCSF Children's Hospitals tomorrow night. You've now raised a total of $130 million through that concert every year for this hospital, amazing what you were doing. You already know, we so strongly believe that business is the greatest platform for change. You can see what we've done about $1 billion of grant since we started the company, 11 million hours of volunteerism. 65,000 nonprofits and NGOs on under service for free, and this is where I get to say this. If you are with a nonprofit or NGO and you are here at the conference, can you stand up and be recognized, please.
Amazing. And this is the opportunity for our commercial customers to realize that nonprofits and NGOs do not have as many resources as our commercial customers. Please support them and help them. And not only are we giving back at this scale, but one more thing. We are also deeply committed to San Francisco. Now with $156 million given for our public schools, $130 million to our hospitals, we have done 1.7 million hours of volunteerism here in San Francisco and Oakland, and we support 4,000 local NGOs. We've even given $13 million to our local police force to keep all of you safe. But we believe so strongly through this kind of $300 million in all-time giving that we have to give back to the communities that have given so much to us.
One more thing. We're also deeply committed to America as well. We now run 15 of the 15 cabinet agencies. 50 out of 50 states also now on Salesforce, all built on our core values, our core values of trust, the trust we have with all those Trailblazers. Their success is our highest priority. The innovation you'll see here at the show that we've been delivering day in and day out for 27 years. The equality of every Trailblazer, we so strongly believe in that. And the sustainability of our world, creating a net zero company. And that is why we've been influenced now as one of the most ethical companies in the world by [indiscernible] 7 team times, probably one of the most meaningful recognitions that we have received. Thank you so much, and it has delivered the largest and most trusted enterprise software company in the world.
An incredible slide as we slide into these very high ranks of these amazing companies. I guess you could say some people said, well, is Salesforce slowing? And I said, well, actually, I don't know if you noticed, we spent 3 years in the $30 billion in revenue. We spent just 2 years now in the $40 billion in revenue. And next year, we're entering into the $50 billion in revenue, looks pretty good to me, actually, the chart, not bad. Not a horrible chart. Thank you. And 27 years of amazing innovation inspired by all of you, especially our Trailblazers, incredible what you have been doing for us. And that innovation, it's organic, it's inorganic.
And let me also say this. It's also these incredible companies in San Francisco that we've kind of become part of our Ohana, and we want to welcome starting today, Fin, now part of Agentforce. The highest performing customer agent in the world, amazing company. Anybody here from Fin, stand up if you were Fin. What you be recognized we have our Fin team right over here. Congratulations, and welcome to Dreamforce. Great to see you and fantastic. Okay. Look, it's been 10 years of pioneering AI here in the enterprise. You have all going through this with us. It's been an amazing journey. There's no question about it.
And then we've been hearing all this kind of crazy nonsense about the SaaSpocalypse, especially over the last 6 months. It doesn't have been wild.
But I think that we realized that SaaSpocalypse, but it's not about the end of software, but it may be about the end of software that makes humans do all the work. And I think you're going to see that especially at the show. It's been incredible to watch the success of Salesforce this year, the growth, the capability of our customers. In our second quarter, we just delivered $46.4 billion in revenue guidance, delivered another $1 billion in free cash flow, 14% CRPO growth. It was awesome. Our lowest customer attrition ever, our longest customer contracts ever. And it's all driven by the deep commitment that we have at Salesforce to do this, to help you connect with your customers in a whole new way.
How do we do that? And now as you start to begin to see the technology that we're about to reveal, there's this fundamental question. And the question is this, how are we unlocking this trapped value across every single app? Now at Salesforce, we are starting to do this. It's been amazing. We already have 7,000 users on Claudeforce. So while you're at the show, take our Salesforce employees aside and say, show me how you're running Salesforce. You'll see the Slackbots that we have running and the coworkers that we have running in Lightning and that we generated $500 million last quarter in pipeline, incredible with our new Hunter and Piper agents, but we resolved 5 million service conversations with Casey on helpsalesforce.com.
We're being the change that we want to see with you. We believe that every company can become an Agentic Enterprise, and we're going to show you the best way to do it by doing it ourselves. It's been awesome for us. And as I've gone around the world, I see it in all of you. I see it in your eyes, your inspirations, your ideas. I see these companies changing and transforming in ways I could have never imagined. Now AI has opened a door that's never been opened before. How many of you in San Francisco while you've been here have already jumped into a Waymo? Anybody here jump in or Waymo? Not too many. Well, you might want to try it. It's kind of an amazing experience. It's an autonomous vehicle driven by AI.
And one of the things about it is it's kind of a metaphor in many ways. I told you about my trip to Europe, well, when I was in Europe for 2 months, I didn't see a single autonomous vehicle. That was kind of a metaphor to me. Well, we might be living at it here or if you go to Shanghai, maybe it's AI on steroids right now. But when I went to Europe, I didn't see that same kind of transformation, that same eye kind of same AI global, I would say, unbalanced capability, where some countries have more AI than others. This is a very real thing, but it's also true in our customers, too. When I go to visit all of you, and I just spent my time with hundreds of you, probably what I love doing more than anything else. But what I saw was a lot of unevenness what comes to AI.
So that idea is that when we start to look at what AI can do, yes, the door is opening, but not everyone has gone through it yet. In many cases, some of our customers are kind of stuck. They're kind of stuck in the old world. Maybe they're even using ChatGPT or Claude Cowork during the day at home. But when they get to their businesses and they get to their enterprises, they still don't see that enterprise transformation. Do you know what I'm saying? And I think we have to do more to help you accelerate that transformation. But one of the key parts about that is this, models alone cannot run the enterprise. Models alone are not going to show us what's going to -- what's possible. Models also are very probabilistic.
You know what that means, they're probabilistic, like they kind of know what's going on but they're not grounded in a single set of truth like your traditional Salesforce apps. I have a friend back home, and they've built this amazing app on Claude Cowork. And every time he shows some of the app he goes, well, this is this amazing app. But this number, I know it's wrong every time. I know it's not exactly the right number. I said, that's because it's not grounded in your single source of truth. It's not grounded in your core data set. And then how can you do that? The idea really is how can you bring that probabilistic world, the AI world, the deterministic world. The deterministic world is where all that corporate data is, where the single source of truth is.
That is the question that has been on our mind. And that is the bridge that we want to cross because when we look at enterprise intelligence, yes, we love these probabilistic AI systems. But how do we deliver the governance and the security and the workflows and the apps and the rules and the context to all of them? How do you bring all the power of the corporate system into the AI? And then one more thing. How do you then layer in these 4 critical layers? One, how do you deliver the data because we all know you've got to get your data right to get your AI right. Two, how do you take the power of the apps, which have all the intelligence of the business and all of the capability and the metadata and the semantics that deepen the analytics layers, the semantic layer. How do we unleash a digital workforce with agents like we've been talking about here for the last several years? And how can we build a radically different interface on all of those things?
These 4 layers data, apps and semantics, agents and interface, that is what we want to transform right now. And to make that happen to really bring enterprise intelligence to run on our core system, we have to unify the probabilistic intelligence with that deterministic intelligence. And the interface in agents remain probabilistic. And that is great as long as they are grounded inside the deterministic data, the source of truth of data, the data layer and the absence of semantics as well where you have spent so much time educating those applications on who your businesses are and how they run.
So at this show, what we will do and what we're going to do over the next 30 minutes is show you those 4 layers in an incredible new way. Data 360, a layer that helps you to integrate, to federate and harmonize all of your data. And that means connect everything in your enterprise together to smooth it out, okay, and then let it drive the AI. And two, to unleash through a new headless version of our applications, the fundamental application and semantic intelligence to drive that intelligence and then let the agents and let the interface do what it's going to do.
When we get to the interface layer, I promise you this. When we get to the interface layer, I promise you this, you will see an interface unlike anything you've ever seen before. It will transform your enterprise. And that is what is exciting. Now people been saying, as I've said that to them, how is that possible? How is it possible that so much could change so quickly at the interface layer? Well, for those of you who know how Salesforce operates, we operate through a metadata platform. When you're working in Lightning and you're running Lighting applications and where you're building on Salesforce, you're writing in metadata, you're writing in the objects and the interfaces and the rules. You're writing in the fields and the relationships, you're writing in the permissions and the business logic and security and analytics you're writing into the metadata and then it gets decomposed into the database.
It gets pushed down into our database. It's not fixed. I loved it when we announced [indiscernible] and everybody thought we somehow had cut the head off of our apps. There was never any head on the apps. It was always in the metadata layer. It's just hard to explain that to folks who are not Salesforce folks. So it's down in the metadata layer and then it's been recomposed into Safari or Chrome. It's been recomposed into the browsers or into iOS. And now it's going to get recomposed into these AI interfaces. It gets recomposed into Cowork. It gets recomposed into Slack. It gets recomposed into Lightning. So that is what becomes really dramatic. It's an interface revolution. But we've seen a lot of interface revolutions. We went from DOS to Gus. And we went from GUS to web, and we went from WAM to mobile.
And today, you're going to see, and I bet a lot of you have not yet seen this, you're going to see AI interfaces that are dynamic and intelligent, that are composable and alive and that can work with you in the fundamental administration of the applications, can work with you in building the applications and work with you in operating the applications because the interface itself is alive. Some people say the interface is living. It's really interesting. I'm going to let you determine what you think about that interface. Now to make all this happen, the first thing we had to do is write a layer that would empower all that. We knew we wanted the dynamism. We all know we wanted the intelligence. We knew that we wanted to keep go down into that metadata and pull it up. We knew that it had to be secure and governed.
And one more thing. We knew that it had to have zero data retention. Now 3 years ago, we were here, we talked about zero data retention. That means this. When you're working in Salesforce apps and when you're working on our platforms, your data is your data. It does not go in the models. We've audited it. We've tested it. We've tried it, regardless of what you've heard on media or from other vendors, let me assure you that Salesforce products are built with zero data retention, tested over and over again by our security teams. Your data is your data. You're not training any other model when you're using our products. This is extremely important, having ZTR built in. And then when you put it all together, when you put all those things together, you get AIforce.
You get those capabilities and you get this live interface that untraps the value. And then we're going to deliver for you AIforce in many forms, if you're a Cowork user, you're going to get Claudeforce. If you are a Slack user, you're going to get Slackforce. If you're a Lightning user, you're going to get the new Coworker. And there will be many others too, and we will also deliver an SDK, so you can build your own AIforce applications as well. This is really the most exciting thing I have ever seen for Salesforce. Because we have been talking about the data layer for a long time. We have been talking about the applications and semantic layer for a long time. And we have been talking about now the agentic layer for 3 years.
And now for the first time, we're talking about this, a live interface on Salesforce, unlocking this trapped value, finding the patterns across all your data, getting answers in seconds, not days and now anyone can get that value from Salesforce. That is the power of AIforce. And while you might not have seen this from other vendors yet. I assure you, you are about to see something that I'm sure that will get repeated over and over again throughout our whole industry. Just like the Trailblazers have sat in this conference now for almost 3 decades, I'm confident you will see this pattern repeat everywhere else.
We saw Steve Mo. We saw how incredible our Trailblazers are. They are going to be even more incredible with AIforce. They are going to be even more powerful to administer, develop and operate these systems across all of these layers. It is really awesome. And you're going to see the demo and pay attention, it's going to be really incredible. Now we've talked about the vision of lighting up the data, making sure your data is ready for you. And two, making sure all of our apps, which were always built this way, always built with metadata first so that this moment would be a moment they could take advantage of are also ready for you; and three, the agentic layer as well so that it can really deliver that value.
Now I know many of you are already starting to use these incredible agents. How many of you have been on salesforce.com or informatica.com or already using Piper, by the way, this qualification agent, quite a few hands. It is amazing you're talking to Piper, we're going to demo it in a second. It's helping to qualify your prospects and your customers. Hunter went out and generated $500 million of pipeline for me last quarter it was kind of amazing what Hunter did. Casey answered 5 million customer service issues for me so far since I launched about 18 months ago. And Paige is doing our ITSM work and HR capabilities. And Marshall is doing this incredible work as well in the supply chain. And now we have Fin, which is the #1 customer service agent. We've been using that on help.salesforce.com already. It's incredible, Fin is. And we got that running, I think, in about 12 days at Salesforce. It's an incredible capability that you can go super fast with.
That idea that you have those 3 layers, data, absent semantics and agents and then add the interface on top. Adding the interface on top means that everything is going to change. So one of the things I noticed when I was with all the customers for the last 2 months, and it was pretty incredible being there with everybody. But the applications kind of looked mostly the same that they've looked like for the last few years. And I would say to the CEOs and CIOs and CEOs of these companies, do you feel like you've gone through an enterprise transformation? Well, we've got this pilot going or we tried this or we did that? I think when you put this interface on, everyone will see that their systems have now changed. Incredible.
Okay. So let's take a look at Quadforce. This is Salesforce and Claude. It's the #1 AI meets the #1 CRM. It is that live interface built around you, if you are a Cowork user. You are going to love this platform. We use it at Salesforce. We use it aggressively. We turned it over to our operating unit leaders several months ago. They have been running their businesses. When we were doing the focus group for this room, I was sitting next to Miguel Milano, our new Chief Operating Officer -- Miguel, are you in the room? Well, standup. Here's Miguel Milano, our new COO. Congratulations, Miguel. I was sitting next to Miguel and he was using Claudeforce to run Salesforce. It was incredible. And he was also using Slack at the same time. It was hard to believe.
Now for those of you who use Slack, how many Slack users do we have here, raise your heads? Quite a few. Oh, I'm surprised. Well, so Slack is where AI works. It's pretty awesome. I mean we bought this company 6 years ago. We have invested a ton in this company transformed it. It's done amazing is to become our very fastest-growing product. So many AI companies here in the Valley like within a mile or 2 of this building, all run on Slack. It's awesome. But one of the things to about Slack now that you have is Slackforce. So that same user interface that is running from AIforce in Claudeforce is also now running in Slack and you're going to see that at the show. And for those of you who are coders or who are using coding agents in your businesses, did you know now you can code inside Slack?
Coding has traditionally been a single player sort board. It's a single player sport, but now it becomes a multiplayer sport, and you can write review and ship code together with agents and all of Salesforce is available inside Slack with Slack CRM. So you can use Slack to run Salesforce. And many of our customers are already using Slackbot millions every single week where they're reading across their DMs, they're reading across their channels, they're reading across the whole data set and letting Slackbot provide the AI for the enterprise. That is why Slack has become Salesforce's fastest-growing product.
Okay. And there's one more piece of this. For those of you who are on Lightning, anybody here use Lightning by any chance? Okay, we have a few Lightning users out there. Now Agentforce Coworker is running inside Lightning as well. So now you can have the same live interface in Lighting. So if you use Cowork, you've got it. If you have Slack, you've got it, if you've got Lighting, you've got it. And I bet by the time we get back here a year from now, we'll have dozens of live interfaces running on Salesforce. We have transformed our architecture. Look at this. You can see that core data layer with Informatica and MuleSoft. You can see it with Tableau and how it's working to deliver that core system.
And then you can see the application layer and all the different applications are now headless and providing that API and that capability. And the agentic layer as well and all the agents that you need to run your business or build your own agents with Agentforce also. All of these incredible pieces helping to create and empower those trailblazers that are so important to us. We want to make sure that Trailblazers are successful. They've built 12.8 million custom enterprise apps. They've done countless Apex calls and [indiscernible] calls. They've built these incredible systems. It's been awesome what the Trailblazers have done and this is going to elevate them to an incredible new place. And we're delivering new versions of Salesforce, including our new AIforce Max Edition, which bundles all of this together so you can have one core product that you can acquire that delivers all of this functionality to you.
One product, AIforce Max with all of our functionality built together. So there is no concern. You not have everything you need to be totally successful right now. So please welcome to give this incredible demonstration, our new President of Applications and Marketing, Patrick Stokes.
All right. All right. Thank you, Marc. Good morning, Dreamforce. Facing back with all of you, I love doing this every year. I hope I get to keep doing it. We'll see here in a moment. So listen, 6 months ago, we held an event. It was actually right across the street to launch Slackbot. And at that event, our Co-Founder, Parker Harris, you all know Parker, he's sitting right over here. He looks right into the camera and he said something a little weird. You want to know what he said? I've got the clip. Let's actually just watch the clip.
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Crazy thing to hear, right? Crazy. If you're any other software company, that would be a terrifying thing to say because other software companies, they think their product is the UI. But that's not what we think at Salesforce. That Salesforce, our product is the trust that all of you, our customers put in us to hold your data, to hold your workflows, your business processes, your permissions, your security rules, that is the Salesforce product. And we asked ourselves, what would it look like if we could plug that product in to a new interface, to an entirely new interface agentic interface. And that's exactly what we set out to do with our friends from Anthropic.
Now here, I am inside of Claude Cowork. And I'm about to show you my interface. Everything you are about to see is something that I ask Claude to do for me. And before I show you, I'm going to give you one last warning, which is, despite what Parker just said, you are going to see just a tiny a little bit of Lightning in here. Bear with me, okay? Here we go.
Here are your deal signals for today. Okay. body, this gets in. The quarter sits $8.2 million short of your $285 million target with 3 weeks left to run. NorthStar needs your attention, $4.8 million, 10 days past close and a block security review. Those are your signals pal, your command center has the answers. Trailblazers. Welcome to Dreamforce, digital Parker out.
All right. Thank you, Parker. I appreciate the insights. So look, this is my Salesforce. Like I said, everything that you see here is something that I specifically asked for and Claude helped me bring it together. I can see if I expand this, I can see my pipeline coming in from around the world, everywhere I've got a new opportunity opening up. I can see all of my service data coming in where my cases are landing around the world, so I can see where my hot cuts are. I can even see all of my marketing data. People interacting with all of my different websites, interacting with Piper on my website, signing up for new campaigns, interacting with campaigns all in this live interface.
But this is more than just an interface to look at data. Remember, we're combining this with AI. In this case, Parker, who's got a lot of insights, right? And Parker reminded me right when we started there, then I have a problem with NorthStar communities. And he said, you should probably take a peek at that. Now I know NorthStar happens to be based in San Francisco. So I can click into San Francisco here to drill into the pipeline that I have. I've got 2 accounts that have opportunities. I'm going to click into my NorthStar account here. And there it is, there is that security review that is blocked. And it's actually kind of bad. We've got $4.8 million in open pipeline that is not going to close unless we get this thing moving.
Now I wanted a way to let my team know that this is unacceptable. And I did that in the most Patrick way that I could think of, which is I ask Claude to code in a sad trombone. And that actually sends a real activity over to Salesforce. So that logs in this account record, so my team knows that I'm pissed off. If I wasn't pissed off, I could do something that I've always wanted to do, which is blow an airhorn on the Salesforce stage. I can do this as many times as I want. Nobody can stop me. Okay. But to get real for a second, what do I actually want to do? What I want to do is I want to send a Slack message over to my team. I need to get them rock and roll in on this opportunity. So we're going to click into the Slack interface, and I said, hey, give me a way to have Claude generate, but let me be able to rewrite the message if I want to, so I can do that right here.
We can say, hey, Dreamforce, it helps if you spell it right, although it actually doesn't really matter, God, it's hard typing on stage. There we go. And then all I have to do is post this over to Slack. And if I get over there fast enough, there it was, you saw it just pop up. 1046, there is our message right over to Slack getting our team rocking and rolling. Okay. Now I bet you're probably wondering how this all actually works. And let me tell you. So it all starts right over here if we go into, excuse me, plug-ins you'll see we've got this brand new logo Salesforce for Claude. Now this plug-in solves all of the hard problems. Who's heard of MCP servers here? Who knows what MCP servers are and how to use them? A lot of hands are going to go down, right? They're hard. This is a new technology. Who knows how to enable zero data retention, right? Not many people who's written skills for Claude, probably a few more of you right?
This is hard stuff. And we sat down with our friends at Anthropic and said, what if we could put all that together into one package, one plug in that if you have Claude Enterprise, you can just go in, turn it on and pick the users that you want to give access to. So that is exactly what we did. But what about that UI? How did I create that UI? Some PM didn't create that for me somewhere. That is a UI that I personally created for myself by just asking, and I'll show you that conversation. Here is the complete conversation. You can see where I started. You get up and running on these interfaces. I'm not kidding in like 6 to 8 minutes. And then you have a few days worth of back and forth as you iterate and you add all of the silly features like I did with that trombones, and that awesome 3D Parker that you saw. All of that, look at literally create avatar, Parker Harrison is Lightning suit. I to give it some things. But that is how we do it.
Now the last question I want to answer for you is how on earth do you get this thing, right? Well, we can show you. Now Marc mentioned the pricing and packaging earlier, but this is Dreamforce, baby. We don't want you to worry about pricing and packaging. What we want you to do is go get your hands on this thing. So for the time being, everything that you just saw is in open beta. Any one of you can go, you jump over to the AppExchange. I'll show it to you right here, right, again, inside of Claude, look for this plug-in within the op exchange, fill out the form, give us your org ID and we will turn you on today. If you are not here with us at Dreamforce, of course, we've got a Trailhead. I blew right through the applause, but that's okay. You'll do it afterwards. And if you are here with us at Dreamforce, I beg you get over to Moscone West, it's across the street, we have AI learning labs, you will get in there. There is an ocean of laptops with Claudeforce setup, you can learn how to build your own command center and walk out of here with your org turned on. So that is AIforce.
2. Question Answer
All right. Thank you. So now we have something incredibly special. And to do that, I'm going to reintroduce Mr. Marc Benioff. Marc?
All right. Great job. How about a hand for Patrick? Who's excited about that interface? That is just the beginning of the interface that you're going to see. I think AIforce remains the most exciting thing we have ever done at Salesforce and to see this first version of it running on Cowork and Claude, which is amazing. I don't know if you saw the cover of Time Magazine today, but Cowork is also on the cover of Time Magazine. And here we have the CEO of Anthropic right here, Dario, hello, how are you? Great to have you.
Fantastic. Great job, Dario. You're doing an amazing job leading the AI industry, guiding it all right from our Slack headquarters building. We watch you every day -- it's all good karma, isn't it? And we're watching you doing an incredible job. You've become the #1 AI in the world, 3x larger than the nearest provider. It's been amazing to be partnered with you. It's all been very karmic and kismet and good. And one of the things I have to ask you before we get into the interview, I want to talk to you about AIforce, I want to talk to you about Claudeforce. I want to talk to you about how you're running your own business. But wow, you -- I mean, everything from your first essay that you wrote about Loving Grace to the essay we did on pacing has been incredible. But give us your state of the AI industry and pacing and where your mind is right now?
Yes. I think it's maybe easiest to explain it by an analogy. So let's say you're running a car company and another car company, not yours, they have some kind of safety incident, right? Something goes wrong with the brakes, something with the manufacturing. Now you believe you have the best safety record in the industry. What do you do? How do you approach it? Obviously, it's very tempting to attack your competitor and say, these guys are on, say, for safe. But I think the more responsible way to respond to it is to say, hey, first of all, let's look at our own record, right? We may not have had this big high-profile incident, but I'm sure we're not perfect. Let's look at everything and we can always be better. Let's make our practices better.
Let's recommit transparency, let's invest more in safety then let's organize the rest of the industry and say, what can we do to set standards for everyone? What can we do to make everyone's standards better? And then finally, there should be an international component to it. And that's essentially the 3-step plan that I laid out in the SA, the first of which we committed to, the others of which we're going to have a dialogue with the rest of the industry about. And I think that's the way to lead the industry forward to set an example to say that everyone can always be better.
Let me ask you a question, Dario. It's been amazing what you have been able to accomplish, like I said. But there are a lot of surprises also that you have gone through. So just tell us what has been your biggest surprise over the last decade? And you've obviously been heads down in AI now for 10 years, really in earnest. What's your biggest shock about where we are right now?
It's been the pace of the progress, not just of the technology but of the economic side of it. So we -- I formulated the scaling laws along with some of my cofounders, which tell you that AI models get smarter and smarter, the more compute grow into them. And so we had a prediction of just how capable these models would be. But I think what we didn't appreciate is that it would lead to these companies growing so fast to all these incredible products that we're working together on and you've been talking about today and how quickly they would become central to everything that's going on in the world, right? I just watched the talks before that, where you guys talked about MCP and Cowork and Claude skills, and these are all new things that people are just beginning to use, but they're being adopted so quickly because the economic value is so great. So I've just been surprised at such a pace as possible in the business world.
Well, I'll tell you at Salesforce, we are huge Cowork fans. And also when I was in Europe, I met with so many customers who are Cowork fans, it's incredible what you've done with the product. I am noticing over your shoulder here, you've got a few Salesforce alumni behind you, helping you to run your company, which...
You train them well, Marc. You've trained them well.
Trying to do my best to help the whole industry. I measure myself by how many CEOs, COOs and CROs are in other companies that all came from Salesforce.
You do a fantastic job of that. No, truly. Truly, you do.
Thank you. But what I want to say is this. I want to say, yes, we have to keep our eye on the pace of AI. It's been amazing what's happened over 10 years. No one could have written the story. Now these interfaces are truly amazing. The demo we just saw is remarkable. I think every customer here wants to have that same interface on all of their systems. Everybody wants to unlock the trapped value. What is your kind of recommendation for everyone in this room and the virtual room? Obviously, you can see we have 10,000 people all over this room, but 10 million joining us online. What actions do you want us to take?
Yes. So I would just say, when I look at the technology versus how much it has diffused even if we freeze the technology in place, which we're not doing, pacing the frontier is not, not doing that at all, the technology will keep getting better. But it just suppose we freezed it in place. Even if that were the case, we're making use of maybe only 5% or 10% of what the possible value of the technology is.
So I'll give you just an example that relates to what we're doing together and to the CRO, you just pointed at, which is that Paul, every day now, he wakes up and if he wants to look at our head go-to-market, prospects, he still uses Salesforce but he uses Salesforce with Claude. He talks to Claude using Salesforce's data about what are the are 10 biggest deals we're doing this week. What are the 10 deals we're most likely to lose? What are the themes in those deals? How do we win those deals? Just making use of all the information fluently with Quad. And it's really incredible and the fraction of people who have seen this and seeing that this is possible is still small compared to those who could gain utility from it. And so there is still so much diffusion left to do.
Well, we are really excited to wake everybody up at the show to show people what the possibilities are for the future, how we're going to show them that data layer, which, as you know, I think, is really critical to having that grounding of the data. We've talked about that so many times. The application of semantic layer giving it the AI, even more intelligence capability, the agentic layer that you really have helped pioneer and now the incredible interface layer, and we're so excited that the first one is on Cowork. Congratulations. Well done. You're doing a great job. Thanks for everything you're doing for the whole industry. We're so grateful to you.
Thank you for having me.
Really thrilled. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you for coming to Dreamforce. Please thank the Anthropic team. And now please welcome back from that brief intermission, Patrick Stokes. Give my hand.
All right. Me again, just for a minute. Okay. So I think you can see how special this is. And what I really want is for you all to go out and feel it. Dario was right. When you start using Salesforce with an agentic interface, the amount of value that you get from Salesforce just explodes. It's an incredible experience.
Okay. So we've talked about AIforce. It's time to talk for a few minutes about Agentforce. Agentforce has been this incredible platform for us. I think I was the one launching it maybe 2 or 3 years ago. I've lost track of time, right up on this stage. And then in that time, we have over 30,000 customers on this platform. We're doing 7 billion AWUs. We've been adding more and more to it, like agent script and voice, which are GA now. But we've kind of learned something as we've started putting this out. This is built as a platform. So any of you can come and build your own agents.
But what we learned is that building agents, it's actually kind of tricky building with a probabilistic system is a new muscle, is a new skill that we all have to learn. And so we wanted to solve for that. So this year, we have been hard at work building out-of-the-box agents that sit on top of Agentforce that anyone in the organization can go and implement and deploy. Anyone, not just IT, but your business users as well. And that starts with agents like Hunter, Marc has talked about this a little bit, your outbound sales agent out there responding to your leads, hunting them down and trying to turn it into real pipeline or Piper, which you're going to see in just a moment, which sits on your website, responding to questions that all of your customers might have.
And then, of course, we have Kacey when you need to get help, you can go see Kacey right now and help salesforce.com, you can deploy this on your own website so that your customers can get help, but your customers aren't the only ones who sometimes need help. Sometimes your employees need a little bit of help as well, and we have a Paige for IT service and HR service. So if you're laptop breaks, you know exactly where it go. And as Marc pointed out, we're incredibly excited about our all-new customer agent, Fin, which is just an incredible agent. I hope you get down to the camp ground to see Fin. And now to bring Agentforce in all of these agents to life, I'm incredibly excited to her first Dreamforce main stage appearance. I think you're going to like her. Please welcome Katie O'Neil.
Thank you, Patrick. Siemens is a global leader in industrial AI. Their technology powers buildings and factories and transportation around the world. Over the last decade, Salesforce has really become an integral part of how they run their business. And today, they're driving success with Agentforce, a family of agents working together across [indiscernible] and we're going to show you these agents in action. So let's step into a demo.
We're going to start here on the Siemens website. At Siemens, they rely a global ecosystem of partners to bring their technology to their customers. But when one of those perspective partners arrives on the website, they could be left searching their pages, filling out static forms and ultimately waiting for someone to get back to them. That is potential revenue slipping through the cracks. The Piper changes all that. Piper is Siemens inbound pipeline generation agent. You can think about her like their newest employee on a single mission, converting inbound buyers into quality pipeline. Piper, she is always on. She is super easy to implement. Every customer goes live in 45 days or less, and she is working 24/7.
So let's jump in. Let's engage with Piper. Welcome back. How can I help you today? Piper, I got an e-mail from Siemens about becoming a distribution partner. Can you tell me a little bit more about the program? Absolutely. Based on what I know about your business, I think there could be a strong fit with Siemens' Industrial Automation distribution partner program. I pulled together a quick overview based on what's most relevant to your business. How incredible is that? Piper knows who I am because I click through an e-mail. She's grounded in the context of Siemens Salesforce. So she knows everything about my role and my company, combine that with all of her knowledge of Siemens messaging and positioning and Piper just spun up a super personalized presentation just for me in seconds on the website.
This is the dream. You have a hot buyer and Pipers ushering them along in their journey. Now this is peak bites, and I do want to take it one step further. Thanks, Piper, what would the commercial model look like for a distributor of our size? Great question about the commercial model. It's definitely worth exploring in more detail. Let's get you in touch with the Siemens representative who can walk you through it. Go ahead and pick a time that works for you. Feel free to pick a time that works best for you. Okay. So Piper knows that a question around commercial signals buyer intent. Combine that with my account context, Piper knows that right now is the time to bring in a seller. So she looked inside of Salesforce, saw that Ryan Smith is my line account executive. And in just a few clicks, I can book that time.
Boom, pipeline was just created. No forms, no waiting, hyper, just generated quality pipeline for the Siemens business, that was totally incredible. Now that's one area of the business where agents are going to work. Let's expand Siemens digital workforce. Let's talk about another agent, an entirely different area of the business, supply chain. For Siemens, something like supplier onboarding, it is a process that can take days, a single disruption. It can cause a huge domino effect that creates production delays and it can cost the company millions. But that's what we're solving with Marshall, our operations agent. Marshall is going to take that entire origination to and bring it down to just hours. And here's how. All we have to do is give Marshall the name of a supplier and he's going to go to work in the back end. We're here in Slack, but Agentforce meets you where work already happens. So if you work out of e-mail or Microsoft teams, Marshall will come find you in those channels.
And you're watching Marshall go to work. He's doing things like collecting information. He's reviewing documents. He's even going to pull in a person when something needs human review. Now here you're watching his getting though the merit. But if you'll notice, there's one area where he's getting stuck, and that's actually creating the supplier inside SAP. And in fact, this is where a majority of AI projects hit a wall, which is actually getting our agents to work inside of back-end systems. So today, we are so excited to announce new capabilities with Marshall that is going to do exactly that and let's show you. As Marshall jumps in these back in systems, the first thing he has to do is he has to learn. He has to learn this process supplier onboarding. It is not a trivial process. So we'll give them access to an SAP sandbox.
You can think about a sandbox like a classroom. It's a safe learning environment where Marshall can go through and safely learn this process without touching production. You're watching them do things like learn where to click, which fields are required, but he's not just memorizing those things. He's using LLM reasoning to really understand the business rules behind that process. So here, for example, Marshall will learn that a U.S. supplier actually needs an additional form before they can continue onboarding. Now this will process of learning, this is what would take a new employee weeks to learn. But Marshall, he just learned it in 90 minutes. I want to see do with all the learnings. Marshall will package them up, create a library of trusted actions, and that is where AI reasoning becomes deterministic execution.
What does that mean? It means when it comes time for something like supplier onboarding, Marshall is not just improvising. Marshall is executing against the same trusted actions every single time, so you know you can rely on him. Okay. So we just watched Marshall learn this entire process of supplier onboarding. Let's put them to the test, let's see them go to work. Now in this next part of the demo, I do want to turn our attention over to Gus or demo driver, Gus, give here in the audience a quick way for me, but actually Gus, waive both hand because look at this, Gus is actually completely hand-free in this demo. Gus has enjoyed his cup of coffee, well, Marshall goes to work. Look at this, this is an incredible. Marshall is in SAP. Marshall is updating every single field completely autonomously. This is incredible. This is where agents are at their best. Repeatable work that has to be done right every single time.
Now back over in Slack, all your employees are going to see is that this supplier has now just been created, has been onboarded and is activated. And as something inside SAP changes, no problem. Marshall will go back into that classroom. He's going to relearn and adapt, and that is trusted process automation. That is how Siemens is putting agents to work across their business. That's how they're using Marshall to take supplier onboarding from days down to just hours. That is how they're using Piper to generate quality pipeline. This is Agentforce. This is your digital workforce or here during first. We are so excited for you to get hands on. We want you to walk away with your own family of agents. So come find us in the learning labs.
And for now, Marc, I will pass it back over to you.
All right. [indiscernible] for Katie. Great job, Katie, well done. Great demo. Well done, fantastic, amazing. Katie came from our qualified acquisition. Qualified team, stand up and take a hand, qualified team. Piper, amazing, what you have done, built Piper, great job. Great, great job.
Okay. My friend has come from Munich, Germany. I was just with him. Welcome, Roland. Fantastic. Great. Nice to have somebody in my size here. People don't know my families from bot and bought in and Bavaria. So we have a lot of fun together. We've known each other for a long time. We're so grateful to have you as part of a Salesforce Ohana and your first Dreamforce, isn't that right? What's your initial experience at Dreamforce so far?
I know you just throw a great party. Great people. And Katie, thank you very much. Great job. And I'm so happy to learn that you share talent.
Great. Well, we're just starting. We're just starting. Now -- okay, Rohan, give us your vision because you understand these deterministic layers, but also these probabilistic layers, how AI works in the enterprise. You're building products yourself. Siemens is an incredible company. you built some of the best, most exciting technology across every industry, whether it's industrial or even health care or energy, it's amazing. I think all I said some time of our life or found ourselves in a Siemens CT scan or seeing how huge energy plant that you have built, it's amazing what your company does. Give us your vision of how you see this technology impacting Siemens.
Well, I mean, you said it. We are building the real stuff. Every third manufacturing line in the world is automated the Siemens technology. We have every other electron is touched by Siemens technology or call by it and so on. So in short, what we do is we combine the reel in the digital world in the age of AI. So we built a real thing. This is the hardware part. But we also build digital twins of the renew world, which behaves really like the real thing. So binding that is the huge potential and AI is accelerating. So we talk about industrial and you phrased it perfectly. This is bringing a probabilistic technology into a deterministic world. Hallucination does not really work on the shop floor, as you can imagine. So -- and that's the exciting part about the journey which we started. I mean, the Salesforce is the backbone for how we serve our customers in selling, in maintenance, service and the like.
And the onboarding of -- I mean, we have 120,000 suppliers, 65,000 partners in count. So that's huge. But we don't stop there. So you are the Salesforce of truth for customer, the enterprise AI. With our technology with team center, this is the backbone for products, the products in instructions for manufacturing for service, they're single source of truth of the product. Now we bring that together. So the enterprise AI meets industrial AI, and that helps really our sales guys, our service guys to serve our customers much, much faster and better. We -- basically, we give a virtual engineer next to each sales rep or service rep. And that's just the start. I mean, Dario said it, even if the models would not change from now on, I mean, they didn't see most of the industry data yet. And this is really where the real world kicks in makes a big difference.
Yes. That is a key point. I want to ask you to that point, you and I have talked for years and years because you helped us build this amazing children's hospital, which is a few blocks away from here. So one of the things we've always thought about is the CT scanner is going to be not just kind of -- it's going to be, I would say, more intelligence, more of a diagnostic device. It hasn't exactly happened, right? Radiologists are still in the loop. Even though Jeffrey Hinton said in 1995, we're not going to have any more radiologists. We have more radiologists today than ever. Tell us how is AI and that world coming together, I know you thought about this exhaustively.
So the thing about AI is you come from a world where you just have a copilot somehow helping you in really embedding AI technology deeply in your workflow. You have to rethink the way how you design products, how you produce them and how you operate them deeply. It changes user interface. I mean, you said it perfectly. It changes everything and the whole process behind. The big thing in that particular case is data fusion because currently -- I mean, it's -- we're already there to analyze CTM scanners with an AI agent to really help the doctor -- the doctors, obviously, finally in the loop. But if you fuse data from the blood diagnostics from your scans, even the medication you get, this makes the way how you treat people or how you actually act before a disease strikes, bringing them completely to the next level. By the way, eating habits does its own.
I want to ask you one critical question is this, Roland, when you think about your vision for your company or for all your companies, you have such a portfolio of companies now, over the next year, call it, what's the biggest change do you think that your customers will begin to see?
They will see that new superpower, which is a channel purpose technology will change everything what we do, the way we design products, the way how we manufacture and the way how we use them. And that happens, Dario, you have said it, in an unprecedented speed.
It's great to have you at Dreamforce. Dreamforce, welcome. Glad to have you. Please welcome him. Thank you so much. Great job. Okay, MaryAnn, take it away.
We are all here at Dreamforce to answer one big question. Will AI actually work for my business? You know what is at stake. A lost customer, a missed quarter, your reputation. Generic AI is basically like an amazing race car with absolutely no wheels. But the Customer 360, well, that is the wheels and the steering wheel. Why? Because of all of you, you have for the last 27 years, put all of your business logic, your data, your processes right inside of Salesforce. And the Customer 360 brings all of that alive. And then what we did, we took that amazing foundation that you built, and we built on top of it. Our product team has been working so incredibly hard innovating every single cloud. We've completely reenergized every single business, and we put agents and AI at the heart of it.
Now I know that we have 1,600 sessions, but I have 9 super favorite features that I want to walk you through. So are you ready? Already, a lot of start with sales. What's the absolute best thing about sales out? Well, it is Hunter, of course. And sorry, Patrick, but the best part of Hunter is not just that it's all new, and it is an outbound sales agent. It's that it is built with your data vendors included. What does that mean? Yes. ZoomInfo, demand base, Apollo, your data vendors are built right in. That is amazing. This agent has everything. But I am now on Service Cloud and my family, well, we are kicking butt because CCOS is going live in October. Now this person is looking and be wondering why we're putting CCaaS -- sorry, Contact Center as a Service is important because it's your contact center.
It is your telephony. It is your CRM as one system. Every single person needs this. Why? Because you don't want to think about technology, you want to be focused on your customers. I think I hear angel singing, no more tool stitching ever again. And what about marketing? Well, marketing is crushing it and they're all new campaign agent, it actually builds and iterates campaigns by itself. Now how many marketers love manually building 500 campaigns in the middle of the night before train for us? Yes, no one. So I am sorry, the midnight snacks business is now officially closed. Marketing cloud is really taking us to the agentic future. And the new Commerce Cloud, well, it has a shopper agent, which, frankly, is way too good.
I had one conversation, and then I ended up with 10 outfits for this keynote. Because it looked at the shipping information, the inventory, the even maybe backups for what I was going to buy. So I said yes to the dress and then to the suit and then to another dress. Thank you, Commerce Cloud. And if anybody here has people who are fixing things, physical things out in the field. Well, you know that field service is where it's at. And the best thing about field service is voice to text. Now who loves taking off their gloves, using greasy fingers, touching a phone while you were doing the job. Well, voice to text, you have no hands that you need to use. You can do more paperwork without your hands, you just speak and the form literally fills itself. That is amazing.
Okay. Now hold up. We just launched IT and HR service last year here at Dreamforce. I happen to run this business, so I'm not allowed to pick favorite children. But if I was, my favorite child would be our brand-new CMDB. Why? Every single IT organization knows that the CMDB, it is the brains of your organization. It's how you map your asset. And ours will even update itself, you're welcome. And with Revenue Cloud. What's Revenue Cloud? Of course, it's quote to cash. And the all-new renewals agent, I absolutely love that it automatically figures out what accounts you need to go reach out to and it even does the upsell. That is amazing. Anyone found their favorite yet? Keep watching because now we have Tableau, Tableau gives you a semantic understanding of your entire business that's live for your teams and your agents.
And what is even better than that? Well, proactive intelligence is better than that. Who wants to know the story without even having to ask for it. Thank you, please. And then there's industries. Every single one of us, we run our business inside of an industry. There are regulations that maybe aren't just ours but our regulators. The industry's team is amazing. They have passed all of that into industries that know-how is built into Salesforce. You can do what you want and make sure it's compliant every single time. And I'm going to steal this race for Miguel, but we have an embarrassment of riches. There are over 500 agents and actions built right in every single industry, every subsector. So if you are wondering, dive right in today. You just saw the amazing reimagined Customer 360. It is on fire.
This is amazing. So as you can tell, I'm a little obsessed with product, but what I love more than product is I love the people I get to work it with. So Rohan, can you stand up Rohan just joined us. He is our new President of Platform and Engineering. This is his first Dreamforce, everyone. Can you tell us what you're working on? I've heard you have an amazing announcement for us.
Oh my God, it's amazing. It's -- for the last 3 months, I've traveled around the world, met a lot of customers. And one consistent piece of feedback that I've heard from everyone is that they want a choice for AI. They essentially want to pick the AI model, which is best in terms of price performance for the outcome that they are seeking. And given that feedback, I'm so excited, are you guys excited to introduce Cowork Salesforce's first CRM reasoning model for Customer 360. It's interesting. You just step back and think about 27 years of product innovation in CRM, deep understanding of the customer scenarios. and almost a decade plus of AI and data research, all that learning and all that value has gone into Cowork. Cowork is designed to support long-running agents that execute multiple tasks and complete complex outcomes. So think about a sales agent that's trying to figure out the next best step to take to actually pursue a complicated but a very valuable sales opportunity.
Cowork can help with that. Think about a service agent that's actually figuring out the next best step to take to handle a complicated customer case, a customer support case to get the customer to the right place. Cowork can help with that. As a part of designing Cowork, our commitment to customer trust has always been maintained. It's something that's extremely important to Salesforce. Cowork has always been trained just on synthetic data built and extending Nemotron from NVIDIA, another phenomenal company, right? And the reason that's important is because our commitment to customer trust has been carried forward. Not a single bite of customer data was used. We can't get to see what you build with it. and to talk about where we are going with this incredible partnership, let me hand it over to Marc.
All right. Great job. Please welcome Rohan Kumar. We're so excited to have you, Rohan as our new President of Engineering and Platform, but we are especially -- please welcome Jensen Huang, the CEO of NVIDIA is here. Great to have you, Jensen. Thank you for being here.
We all have to learn how to walk and talk at the same time. How are you guys doing this?
Jensen, we can do that. Yes, let's walk here come up. Let's walk and talk. I do the training myself, Jensen -- exciting thing. You have to take a left now. So Jensen, congratulations on everything that you are doing for the whole industry, the GPU, it's a huge success. It's transformed everything. You're sitting next to David Kirk on our Board, who I think was at NVIDIA for a while as well.
That's right. Love David Kirk.
And now give us your vision of the future, where are we going? Because of course, you've got these critical components. You've got the GPU. And now you've got the #1 open source platform in the world that companies like ours can fine-tune. How do you think this can go ahead? Really we can go this trader do this.
Well, you had to stop so you could think. I could do this all day. Yes. And so first of all, as you know, we're going through a new industrial revolution just as a few hundred years ago -- WI think electricity, we could power everything. With the Internet, we can find -- with Internet, you can find anything. And now with artificial intelligence as an infrastructure layer across the planet, we can know everything and do anything. And so this layer, this layer, you want it this way -- now you got it -- this is great. This is good. Yes. And so now that's the first part. Now the work that we do together, what we see is that every company, every enterprise, every country would become an AI company.
Everybody would be. You're an AI company. I'm an AI company. We're going to have -- it's going to be Agentic Enterprise. And so what we did was we said, listen, we took the GPU, and we evolved it into these giant systems that are now essentially full stack AI factories. And so -- just follow me. We got this. I got this. And so listen, so what happens is we evolved our company from a GPU company to a full stack AI infrastructure company. We build out these giant systems that are essentially AI factories that turn electricity that turns the data that all -- that are stored in all the enterprises and we turn it into intelligence. And I was just amazed that the way you were doing it. Was kind of -- did you read that? I don't think so. You guys were just doing it. So anyways, so what we did was we created this full stack AI factory. And then on top of it, we said listen, how can we turn every single enterprise into an agentic enterprise?
And so we did several things. The first thing that we did was we created the frontier AI models. Nemo transfer language, but we also lead 5 other frontiers, Nemotron. Now you guys are going to make me nervous. And so we have Nemotron -- we're going to cover everybody. Is that a metaphor for the AI industry, do you think -- we can go anywhere to go. And so the first thing is Nemotron is the language model, Kosmos world foundation models at the frontier, it is the frontier, Alpamayo for navigation systems, autonomous vehicles, for example. We have BioNeMo with a protein complex at the frontier of protein models incredible and then, of course, GR00T for human robotics models. And so we're at the frontier of these models all completely open. That's the first thing that we do. The second thing we did was create agentic harness system, and it's completely open. You could put your model inside of great, amazing harnesses around it and the run times that do it.
And then the third thing super important, is this thing called Open Shell. It is the world's first secure sandbox, but also secure run time. And so that you could deploy these agents at scale across enterprises safely. And so these are the things that we did. And now we can turn every single enterprise, every single company into an AI company. And of course, we believe we see a future where the world uses closed models, but every company would also be able to build their own private models, your own customized models, which is the work that we're doing with you guys. Salesforce is going to be a company.
Jensen, we have been seeing an incredible debate for the last day on pacing and safety and the future of these models, you had some time to think about what everybody is saying and kind of bring it all down to us and explain how do you see that?
Well, safety is paramount. In a lot of ways, it's job one. However, safety is an engineering problem. We're developing software after all. We're developing computing systems after all. It's complicated computing system, but it's ultimately a computing system. And so the first thing is to make sure that we create the test environments for testing these complex systems. And those test environments have to be built in a good way, build in a safe way. And then the second thing is we have to test these products.
If we're not confident about the safety of the products, like all companies, like you and I, any -- all the companies here, if you build a product or a service, and you're not confident in its functionality, capability or safety, then don't release it. And so that's a very obvious thing to do. You pace yourself until you are confident you're releasing something that the market would appreciate. The market forces are already there. We don't need any new laws. We don't need new regulations.
We just need companies to decide that when it's -- run as fast as they can. I think innovation, speed and safe products are not -- it's a false choice. You could definitely have both at the same time. So run as fast as you can. But if you feel at any given point in time, the company is out of control or the product is not going to be safe, take a pause and make sure you get it right.
What's your vision for the next year in the short term? What did you like to see everyone in this realm? We have 10,000 people, you can see all around with 10,000 people in this room. We have 10 million people online, 50,000, 53,000 people here at Dreamforce with us this year. I think this is your second Dreamforce. What do you want to see us all kind of get done this year?
Well, I'll say this first, and then I'll say last. And I'm pretty sure what we want to do is Agentforce every company. Do you guys agree with that? All right. So I'm a sales guy. The consummate sales guys, sales guy. And so of course, what I mean by that, of course, is that we really want to deploy AI. In order for all of our -- we were -- the people here, you represent a lot of different companies, a lot of different countries. You don't want to be left behind. This is too important of a technology revolution. It is too extraordinary of capabilities, engage the technology, learn about it. If it doesn't work for you right away, don't give up on it.
And the reason for that is because there's a massive industry working behind it, making it better all the time. If you just tested it today and you felt that it did 80% of what you expected, test it again in a couple of weeks. It's going to get much, much better. And so don't give up on the technology. The most important thing is don't get left behind. I think that the big picture though, is that in the last 6 months, there's no question AI went from the labs into what I would consider extremely useful AI you're experiencing, and I'm experiencing across all of our companies.
The surprising thing for a lot of people and wasn't surprising to me, okay? And in fact, you heard me say it, I was the first CEO to come out not in the software industry to say, the end of software is nonsense. This is going to be a layer on banker software -- this was -- it was a layer on top of software. This new layer on top of software is going to be agentic, it's going to make you use the software so much better. And so that's the first idea. The second idea is AI is going to destroy jobs. That's also completely nonsense. And the reason that is very, very simple.
There was -- you and I are -- we look young, the fact that we could -- we do by fact -- yes, the fact that we can -- we really do -- you're at that we could sit here and pay and talk at 100 miles an hour and keep them with the young people like that, they -- we are -- it is true -- look, I'm very good friends with both of you guys. The thing that it was managed by is, finally, look, when I'm with the 2 of you, I always feel like I need to stand on a chair. And literally -- I just wanted you guys know that when I'm on an airplane, I'm a lot more comfortable than you guys. And so through human evolution, that big is unnecessary. There are several -- it's about 1 million years of evolution between you and me. And so...
This keynote is making a dramatic turn.
Well, we're just -- we're going to connect it to today's entertainment. And from here, we're going to pivot right into comedy. And so Marc, the thing that's happening now is, of course, AI is becoming productive and useful. And as a result, the number of tokens that are being generated as skyrocketing. One of the -- some of the most important things, of course, is that closed models are doing incredibly well. In the last year, I think the number of tokens increased skyrocketed by 25x. And that -- a lot of that in the last 6 months.
What's amazing is that the open models in that same period of time increased -- out of that -- excuse me, the open models went from 30% at the beginning of that year to now some 70%. And so what that basically says is that people are both adopting closed models at exponential rates but also people are building their own custom AIs because every single software company is an AI company. And every single enterprise is going to be an agentic and AI enterprise. And so I think that these transitions are super powerful for the industry. As a result, companies are going to become more ambitious than ever. You're more ambition than ever. I'm more ambitious than ever. As a result of our ambition and with the productivity both we get from AI, the sky is the limit for us. The sky is the limit for our company. The sky is limit for every industry, for every single country. So engage in, I don't get left behind.
Yes. And I'll tell you, the sky is especially the limit for our Trailblazers. I think this technology, the way it empowers people, the way it takes people who can really make a huge dent in companies and transfer them. The technology can partner with them to do this in an incredible new ways. That is what I'm really excited about -- we could not be more grateful to us for coming to Dreamforce being -- being a part of this. Please thank Jensen Huang. Thank you, Jensen.
All right. Amazing. How about that? Wasn't that fantastic? And that -- with that, I want to bring back our good friend, Rohan Kumar. Rohan, let's hear it.
Thank you, Marc. That is amazing. Well, this is not going to be a comedy session. But I want to talk about something that's foundational to everything that you've seen today, data and enterprise context. Enterprise context is anything that makes you ones uniquely your business. These models are very intelligent. They're extremely smart. They know a lot about the world. They know nothing about your business. They don't know your customers. They don't know your products. They don't know your employees. They don't know your transactions, your conversations. They don't know your business workflows. They don't have the history and the context of how your business functions.
And guess what? At Salesforce, we have an incredible suite of products that helps you create this enterprise context, manage it, secure it and make it available to all the agents across your enterprise. Let's get started. The first step is to get your data ready for AI. Before your agents understand your business, you need to understand your data. It's actually extremely complex. Data is locked into silos, data lakes, warehouses, storage systems, applications. Informatica is the product suite. It's the world-class product suite that helps data leaders discover their data from all these silos, clean it, curate it and make it ready for AI. So that's the first step us Informatica to get your data ready for AI.
Now once your data is ready for AI, you basically need to sort of create the trusted context. And the way you create trusted context is today to 360. So what is trusted context? A customer of yours [indiscernible] support case, that is data. deeply understanding that customer, what is their business? What are they trying to accomplish in the moment? And what can your agent do to take the next best step and help them, that is enterprise context. And with Data 360, you can use the 0 copy capability to get the data that's outside of Salesforce. We know there's a lot of your enterprise data that's outside of Salesforce. And you can get all that data, synthesize the enterprise context and knowledge without actually physically copying that those data assets. So that's how you create the enterprise context.
Now once you have your enterprise context created, you need to create the business semantics. Every company has a unique way in which they think about the business conversations, what does revenue mean? What does ARR mean? What does customer churn mean? What does customer health mean? These are not just some static fields inside a database. These are business metrics, business relationships and logic that have been built over years. And Tableau is the most amazing tool for you to go create those business semantics, augment your enterprise context and make it available to all the agents across your enterprise. Now you've got your data AI ready, you essentially created the enterprise context and you got the business semantics.
These agents that have access to all this information are extremely powerful, but put yourself in the shoes of the security leader. They create an amazing amount of security risk. What do these agents do? Like what are they accessing? Can they leak my confidential data, my enterprise context. These are serious questions. That's why I'm so excited to introduce Salesforce Guardian. Salesforce Guardian is the security suite of products. That's the evolution of Shield and trusted services that focuses on 2 things. Agent identity, how do you discover agents that are going rogue and data security. So think about data classification and data life cycle protection. Those are the 2 things that we are focusing on or solving with Salesforce Guardian. And of course, our commitment to zero data retention. You saw Marc speak about it multiple times.
It's very important to us that even when models reason over a confidential enterprise context, that's your IP, we will always protect it. All right. That's how you secure your AI. The final step, essentially, just think about the IT leader. Now you have a digital workforce that's coming together, hundreds of agents, thousands of patients, who knows, millions of agents across all your teams, platforms and enterprises, how are you going to manage them? How are you going to discover them? How are you going to control them, especially cost control. That's where MuleSoft has been upleveled into Agent Fabric. IT leaders have trusted MuleSoft for decades to manage their APIs that connect their business. With Agent Fabric, you can manage all your agents using 1 single industry.
All right. So you've seen Informatica gets your data ready for AI. Data 360 builds out your enterprise context. Tableau builds out our business semantics, Salesforce Guardian help you secure your AI and then MuleSoft and Agent Fabric helps you manage and govern your AI. Let's see how this comes together at a customer, Adecco. Adecco is an agentic enterprise that actually is helping candidates who are looking for jobs, mapping them with their active opportunities. Think about it, millions of candidates every year looking for new jobs, right? And to get this right, the Adecco agents have to rely on trusted context that's built on Data 360 and Customer 360. It's incredibly exciting. Just this year alone, based on the scale, they manage 2.6 million agent interactions with these candidates.
I'm going to show you how Adecco is actually building these agents in a very trusted and scalable manner. But before I do that, I'm going to pass it to [ Mara ] at least show us the agent experience.
Awesome, Rohan. Let's do it. Who's ready? Okay. Okay. So Adecco is this huge staffing company, as Rohan said, and they connect people all over the world with their dream job. But the scale of Adecco, it's massive. They have over 5 million candidate applications every single month. So the scale is great, right, but it's too much work for the recruiting team to handle. What did the Adecco team do? Well, they went ahead and they brought on a recruiting agent to manage all of these candidates to pull them through the funnel. And they named this agent Oda. They wanted to personify this agent, so it felt like an extension of their brand. And Oda is built on Agentforce voice. So she can have live phone conversations with candidates all around the world 24/7.
So let's see it in action, who's ready? Let's do it. Okay. So we're going to do a little role play right now. Let's pretend that I just replied or applied to an IT role. Wish me luck. It's not my forte. But my application, it's stuck, it's stuck in the process. So I want to give Oda call, and I want to see what's going on. Hi, Mara, I'm Oda, Adecco's AI recruiting assistant. I see your IT support specialist application JR-325421 is paused due to an expired CompTIA certification. Have you renewed it? I have. My confirmation number is MP-2890. Am I able to move forward in the process? Let me take a look. I was able to verify your new certification. I'm updating your application now. Is there anything else I can help you with? No. I'm all set.
Okay. So what did happen? I just had a live phone call with this recruiting agent, and it was a really productive experience. I was able to get my problem solved. I was able to move through the process. And the question is, how? How did that work? Well, it's because of all of the rich data in Data 360. This is your agent single source of truth. Marc said it earlier, this is the data that drives your AI. So Oda, she was able to see everything about me. She saw what my name was. She knew my identity, she saw my job application. She knew which role I was going after. And she saw that certification flag. She knew that I needed to renew it and complete that in order to move forward in the process. So this is a really great candidate experience for me, right? I'm feeling good.
But the power of agents, it's scale. That personalized experience that Oda just gave me as a candidate, she could give it to hundreds of thousands of candidates, all at the very same time. So speaking of scale, what's really important is that the business leaders at Adecco, they can see the impact that she's having on the business. It's not just about one candidate interaction. It's about knowing that she's moving the business forward. So here we are in Slackforce. And this is a live interface that's pulling all of the information of what Oda is doing with their candidates. I look at this, and I'm like, wow, auto's going to work, right? At has been busy. I can see that she's having conversations all around the globe, all the way from the United States to Spain to France. And more importantly, I can see that she's moving these candidates through the funnel.
Because when you think about agents, it's not just about knowing they're having all these interactions, it's about making sure that they're moving your business forward. So I can see she's pulling these people through to hire and she's filling these jobs. So I just showed you 1 example of an agent, right? I showed you a recruiter agent that Adecco has used to engage these candidates at scale. And companies like Adecco, they are deploying agents all across their business. And all of you guys, right? But the next major question is how should I think about managing these agents? And how should I do it with trust front and center? So Rohan, I know this is top of mind for you, break it down for us.
Thank you, Maura. That was wonderful. So now you want to pay attention. I know it's towards the end of the keynote, but you want to pay attention at this time because I'm going to show you 2 new product experiences that have never been showed at Dreamforce. Agent fabric for the IT leaders to manage the agents and then Salesforce Guardian for the security leaders to secure their agents. So what you see in the screen over here essentially is the homepage for an agent fabric, right? It essentially has scanners that are actively scanning your enterprise continuously to discover new agents as they come up and then agents are becoming active. Let's go take a look at the agent staff.
Here, you see the list of agents, all the agents that are there in the enterprise, and I want you to focus on the provider column. You see their agents from Azure, Microsoft, AWS, Google and Agentforce, of course. So every provider's agents are actually managed by agent fabric. Now let's go a little deeper into the other recruiting agent that Maura spoke to. Here, as an admin, I get a very clear view of all the skills that the agent is using, how to candidates get qualified. Does the agent look at the verification status. They have listed a whole bunch of things on the resume verifying those are actually true. Let's go a little deeper into the lineage. Where is this agent getting its grounding data from. Remember, enterprise context is how the agents become deterministic. This essentially shows you how. And the beauty is we have deeply integrated Agent Fabric with Informatica. So all the catalog information in Informatica, which -- where your catalog was discovered across your enterprise, those sources show up, and so the IT admins can pick what the agents get connected to.
So that's the first issue. The next thing, as an admin, I'm worried about is, hey, how are these agents performing? What are they? Like what does the performance look like? And with agent fabric, you basically see a very clear view of the average latency. So every request, how long does that take to complete? What's the rate of these interactions, agent interactions. That's important. Policy violations, like is the agent going rogan should something be done about it, and then the total number of requests. This is important from a cost management standpoint. It's great that the number of requests are increasing because you want the business to grow, but how does that impact cost? Let's go take a look at that.
So in the cost management in Agent Fabric, it makes it really easy. So you have these things called Agent Fabric wallets, which essentially is a way for you to budget your spend across multiple agents. So here, you can see [indiscernible] sort of hitting words the end of the budget for the month. And Agent Fabric essentially gives me a way to optimize my agents. It's observing your agent interactions, what your agent is doing and using AI, it's figuring out certain optimizations that will help you reduce your token costs. So it's pretty amazing. So I can just go click, view the optimizations for data, understand the regulations being suggested if they have any behavior changes in okay with that. All I need to do is just go apply the change, and that's how I manage my cost. So there you go, Agent Fabric essentially helps you manage, govern and control your costs.
Now let's put ourselves in the shoes of the security leader, right? Like I said, the big thing that agents change are agent identity, really trying to understand the risk associated with the agents and data security. And those are the 2 big areas that Guardian is focused on in terms of new innovation, right? We show you all the agents that are considered risky based on the actions that they're taking. Then across your data assets, which data assets are not classified not protected, so the security leaders can take action. Wow. So that covers was Guardian. We've shown you a lot within Data 360. And guess what? Across team force, there are many more sessions that you can go watch to learn go much more deeper. I have a keynote that's coming up where I'm going to talk about the evolution of Data 360 to what we call the enterprise AI harness. This is going to be an amazing future for us.
And with that, let me hand it over to Marc.
All right. Great job, Rohan. Great job. Rohan, really, really great. And Denis, please welcome Denis, the CEO Adecco is here. Great to have you, Denis, [indiscernible] of me. We're really excited. We had our friend from Germany. Now we have a friend from France. So Denis, just give us the vision for how you are using Agentforce interviewing all these candidates and automating your companies and building new companies like our potential? Give it to us.
Well, first of all, thanks for having me. And it was great to hear Jensen saying that jobs are going to remain in the world, right? That the massive destruction of job is not going to happen. So actually, what happened is we started to identify the business by thinking about what was happening in the company. We are a people company. And recruitment is about people talking to people. And actually, our recruiters, we are doing a lot of things but not enough time spent in the human to human connection.
So what we did, we didn't start where it was easy. We started on what mattered most with the core process. We started on the core. But on top of that, we had a growth mindset. We wanted AI to be a growth engine for the business by generating a higher level of conversations with our clients and our candidates and with Agentforce, it's now possible 24/7. That was a life-changing moment for us. On top of that, the time spent -- the time saved. Now our recruiters saved 35%, 40% of their time, thanks to a TKI. And what they used that time to create much more qualitative conversations with clients. And when you do that and with candidates. And when do you do that, you grow the business. We have placed 20,000 more people year-to-date, thanks to better conversations. And in doing that, we also create joy at work because people are focused on what they love most.
And the last thing, because you mentioned our potential. I think when we started to work together, we had a common vision that AI had to happen with people and not to people. And that common vision created r.Potentia. This AI native platform that is there to guide our clients. Many clients still struggle about how they can scale and struggle on how to decide what work goes to AI and what work remains done by humans. And our potential is about that. It's about core business to Inventure measuring outcomes, this is fundamental and also bringing people along. So -- at the end of the day, if AI wants to be successful and if we want to measure and bring the returns, people cannot be an afterthought. We have a common responsibility to create a human-centric AI. That's what we are about.
Denis, great job. Thank you so much for being here at Dreamforce. More grateful to Adecco and you and for your leadership and everything you're doing. Thank you very much. Well, this is the moment to start your Agentic Enterprise journey. We have just an incredible show set up for you. You're going to have an amazing opportunity to get going. Dreamforce is where everybody transforms and we are so grateful to each and every one of you for joining us today at Dreamforce and spending the next several days with you. Welcome to Dreamforce.
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Salesforce — Dreamforce 2026 Main Keynote
Salesforce präsentierte auf Dreamforce "AIforce": Live‑Interfaces, Agenten, Data‑Layer, Partnerschaften (Anthropic, NVIDIA) sowie Governance und Open‑Beta.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Ziel: AIforce verbindet große Sprachmodelle (probabilistische KI) mit der Customer‑360‑Welt (deterministische Unternehmensdaten), um "trapped value" in Produktivprozessen zu heben.
- Partner: Enge Integration mit Anthropic/Claude (Claudeforce) und NVIDIA; Cowork als Salesforce‑eigener CRM‑Reasoning‑Ansatz.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Produkt: Live‑Interfaces (Claudeforce/Slackforce/Lightning) + Agentforce für vorgefertigte Agenten (Hunter, Piper, Casey, Fin, Marshall, Paige).
- Plattform: Vier Ebenen: Data 360 (Datenintegration), semantische App‑Layer, agentische Ausführung und neue dynamische UI; Headless‑Apps und SDK angekündigt.
- Governance: Zero Data Retention‑Versprechen, Salesforce Guardian (Security), Agent Fabric (Verwaltung, Kostenkontrolle, "Wallets").
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Verfügbarkeit: AIforce in Open‑Beta; Plug‑in/Onboarding über AppExchange, AIforce Max Edition als Bundle angekündigt.
- Performance‑Beispiele: Hunter generierte zuletzt $500M Pipeline; Casey bearbeitete 5 Mio. Service‑Conversations; Agentforce hat ~30.000 Kunden.
- Technik: Cowork als Salesforce‑trainiertes Modell (synthetische Daten) und Integrationen zu Informatica, Tableau und MuleSoft (Agent Fabric).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Sicherheit: Pacing vs. Safety wurde intensiv diskutiert; CEOs/Partner betonten Tests, Sandboxes und die Verantwortung, Releases zu pausieren, falls nötig.
- Grounding: Kritische Nachfrage, wie probabilistische Modelle verlässlich mit "single source of truth" verknüpft werden — Data 360/semantische Schicht als Antwort.
- Kosten & Timing: Fragen zu Preisgestaltung, breiter Verfügbarkeit und ROI blieben vage; Agent Fabric Wallets als erstes Tool für Kostensteuerung.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Starke Produktoffensive mit klarer Monetarisierungs‑Chance (Cross‑/Upsell von CRM, Slack, Tableau, MuleSoft). Kurzfristig Wachstumspotenzial, mittel‑/langfristig Abhängigkeit von Adoption, Partner‑Ökosystem und effektiver Governance.
Salesforce — Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Salesforce session at Goldman Sachs Communacopia, I'm Gabriela Borges, delighted to have on stage with me, Bill Patterson, President and Chief Commercial Officer; Rob Seaman, EVP and [ GM of Black ]. Gentlemen, thank you for your time.
Thank you for having us today.
Bill, I want to start out with a little bit of some mic-drop movement from 2 weeks ago now with [ Dario and Mark ] on CNBC talking about the launch of [indiscernible] and there reminds me a little bit when we were chatting with the management team earlier this year, they were telling us about the anthropic Sasser video, where athropic talks about the cornerstone of their front office stack being sales force and almost the different pieces that they built on top of it. Tell us a little bit about how that relationship came together. And it sounds like you've essentially commercialized what would have taken a fair number of engineering resources to get off the ground. So would love to hear more.
Yes. I think -- thank you for recognizing that was 2 weeks ago, which seems like a decade ago now. But I think what's beautiful about the world of kind of cloud and the world of Salesforce is our customers were not sort of pulling us together to work together more effectively. And Salesforce is a huge entropic customer, and Entropic is a huge Salesforce customer. So there's just natural synergies about these 2 technologies sort of working together in unison to drive ultimately better quality agents, better productivity for every employee and sort of just better synergy on the product side.
So it's always beautiful when -- because like we always say it like the #1 AI platform and the #1 CRM platform can come together because we can actually really validate a lot of like the core use cases that we serve in the common roles with one another in that sense. So I think it wasn't -- it was more than just an announcement. It was a product that was already being built, already being utilized, already being activated, already being deployed in almost every customer that we sort of see today, and it was just a natural fit for these 2 product organizations to sort of now work together and deliver product, which we now call Cloud force. So I think this is just a classic example of kind of 2 magical things coming together and delivering great impact for our users, and we're very, very excited about the early days there.
Is there anything that you've learned in the last 2 weeks since making the announcement that was unexpected or that you haven't predicted?
Not unexpected, but I think that the market and sort of the customer community probably breaks down into 3 tranches. One, there's a lot of just heavy early adopters that we're really doing a lot of innovation and building a lot of these connections and integrations already themselves that validated the pattern for why we wanted to create a product in this area. And so I think as part of that early adopter community, you've got a lot of great feedback, a lot of validation, a lot of sort of conviction about the magic of these sort of 2 products becoming a strong partnership with one another.
I think as you sort of fast forward to the second tranche or second community of users, there's still those users today that are like trying to figure out how to make this work and how to make it scale and how to make it economically viable for organizations of their size. Not every small business has an endless token budget, if you will. And so really making sure that the economics work to drive the productivity and the performance of this offering is probably that second community of customer that now needs a little bit more knowledge and know-how to make it work and make it work right.
And I think there's a third community that has a lot of skepticism around sort of what does AI mean for them. And as you travel around the world in different communities, different geographies, not here in San Francisco, per se, but as you go to like other countries around the world, there is a little bit more AI hesitancy. And so that is a final community that does need to be convinced that this is not a destructive force it's actually forced to fundamentally transform work. So I think as you take a long view around what the Cloud First opportunity means, the early adopters are going to deploy it fast, those that are sort of trying to figure out the economics and the true math of how this works at scale, I think, are still needing some convincing.
And then that last tranche is narrow that we have more responsibility as leaders to show them that this is a strong sort of solution for their future and not, like I said, that cannibalistic force for eroding work as we know it.
I want to ask you about 2 of the bare cases that we've heard in the last 2 weeks. The first is the Fox in the henhouse bar case, which is, look, tech partnerships come and go, they break down all the time. and essentially through a quarter for us, Entropic is now getting a foothold in the front office tax of all sales forces installed base. How do you think about the risk that -- however many years from now, anthropic turns around and says, thank you, Salesforce. We're happy to take it from here.
Yes. Look, I think that the fundamental mission of both organizations is different from 1 another. The mission of Anthropic is really to prove that kind of AI can have a really ubiquitous sort of kind of moment in our lives in our businesses. And the role of sort of Salesforce is fundamentally to kind of make businesses better businesses. So we have some relationship in that sense that to -- of what they innovate on and what we innovate on. They're very, very different technologies, very different pace of sort of innovation and also better sort of just different responsibilities of what we need customers to sort of know, learn how to do and manage to be successful with these offerings.
There's been all kinds of new innovation that has always been the death of a CRM system at some point in time. The first one was like a website. Oh my god, that's going to eliminate how we do kind of marketing and marketing outreach. Now it didn't transform I didn't do away with CRM. It just transform CRM to be a world of outside in engagement, just as much as it's been about inside out sort of operational responsibility. So I think it's -- there's a long list of companies and long list of technologies that we're trying to kill the CRM business. We're still here. We're doing well.
The second bear case, and we can bring Robin to the conversation naturally with this one, is the idea that Salesforce is essentially giving up the user interface? So the end customer now interacts with clouds. There are quarters port of call. And sales force essentially becomes such database argument from 18 months ago now. How would you respond to that, particularly UI bar case?
I go about it from a perspective. One, I don't agree with it. I'd start with that. So I think minimizing sales force or CRM in general, to a database I think is somewhat glib and a bit of an oversight into what's actually happened in the CRM systems. Like so much of what people have done is expressed how the company operates in the form of metadata in Salesforce and their CRM. And that, candidly, isn't very replicable and that's what people are excited about accessing through other services like Cloud force or Slack or whatever it might be.
Now on the argument about giving up the user interface, we -- while you may be giving up a bit on the amount of time people spend in the interface, you're actually increasing the amount of work that's happening through the services that support the interfaces -- and to me, that's the bigger bet is that ultimately, more work gets done through our CRM system. Like if you look at our own internal data on our usage of Salesforce, our usage of sales force is skyrocket within Salesforce. And but the overwhelming majority of it is happening through Slack and through cloud. And so the amount of work that's actually happening and the quality of work that's happening has dramatically skyrocketed, and our productivity has improved, as you've seen through our financial metrics. But it's all because we've moved to this headless manner in a way, I think the tilt umbrella makes it a lot more convenient for users to get the work done.
Tell us a little bit more. You've talked about Slack as the operating system for work. What does that look like? What does it mean for your R&D road map to now be investing in Slack, not just as a communications tool, but as this essential gateway to all of the underlying system of record.
Yes. So when we think -- so the biggest asset we have at Slack is the aggregated attention of knowledge workers. So the average Slack user actually has the Slack app opened 10 hours a day and actively uses it 2 hours a day. So if it were a consumer app, it would be a great place to put ads, but we will never put ads in black. So we do not expect that to come from us. So it becomes an amazing place to distribute your software. So B2B software is increasingly being distributed through Slack as agents are. Now when you increase the amount of stuff that are coming at humans, humans can become distracted, and that defeats the purpose of that attention aggregation -- and so what we think with the role that we can play, if you look -- if you go back to original operating systems and what they did, they basically abstracted or hit the complexity of the hardware from the end user and typically how to use their interface paradigm about it.
That's effectively what Slack does for a litany of apps and agents that are now coming at people in addition to the humans that are reaching out to them. So from an operating system perspective, we think we can basically provide that overall design guideline and system that apps and agents can adhere to, we can abstract the complexity of the fact that there are thousands of them now competing for people's attention and make it a single place that people can kind of orchestrate their day and be a cockpit of, and so I think we ultimately become where the AI stack starts and stops.
You gave an example there of where it's been successful within the own sales force organization. And I imagine you have customers that you would classify as top quartile in terms of early adopters of Slack functionality. My question for you is what is the alternative? So the customers that maybe we separate out the cohort that still hasn't. So the customers that are leaning into AI that are not using Slack as one of their primary user interfaces. What does that look like? What's alternative?
I mean the alternative is alternatives from competing products that I think are functionally deficient. And so I think that -- the key thing about Slack, and I think you see this play out in all the major AI companies that use Slack, and I apologize in advance if I'm saying something that whoever -- if I'm saying something that I'm not supposed. But if you look at anthropic, you look at opening eye, you look at Versal, all of these frontier labs and AI-first companies operate their stock in a very unique way, which is they operate totally in public. I was talking to Boris from Entropic yesterday was so fascinating.
Every single anthropic employee has the notebook channel. That's basically a channel with them themselves, where they just think out loud through the course of the day. They knew this. OpenAI does this or sell does this. We do it at Slack. And what that does is that radically flattens an organization and immediately disseminates all information from that person to every other person in the company, but importantly, to all the other agents, and that little in Slack and the way that the software actually encourages people to participate in a very social way in a very public way is not something you see happens and the alternatives that are out there today full stop. I would challenge anybody, if we're going to talk to a customer that's using an alternative product, and we ask them how they do that. And this start like you have 10 heads...
Well, you got to stay on this. This is a really interesting rabbit hole. So what is Entropic doing with Slack that allows them to power this army of agents behind manifest? Tell us a little bit more about...
It do as much as seemingly possible in public. So every single product channel, feature channel is public for the entire company access and all the agents do access. Every single person then has what we call a notebook or brain channel. Versal does a similar thing if you talk to G from Versal [indiscernible] channel and they just think out loud in these brand channels. And so everybody in the company can see what GE is thinking. And every agent that's in your slack can see what Geis thinking because it's public. And I think increasingly, if you look at what -- Toby look -- I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, the top if. He wrote a piece on Twitter called learning on the shop floor. And it was about using their river agent in flag, but only doing so in public.
And what's interesting is they've deployed their coding agent river, which is built on top of another harness, but they've deployed it in Slack and only allow it to be used in public channels and flag. And so what you're doing there is you're effectively immediately disseminating to the entire company, every single thing that's being built. So everybody can deserve like somebody else working on this yet. So like you radically duplicate -- reduce duplication of effort. But then you also learn from each other. Like the bare case to me on these individual contributor, AI tools, is that -- and Toby says this as well is that the AI learns and the person using it learns that their peer doesn't learn and then the company doesn't learn from it, right? When you move that into public like in a channel and Slack and then everybody else can learn from it. and it immediately becomes a dollar artifact for employees, but also for other agents in your slack.
So you've already given us one of the answers to this question on why Slack is the natural place for that activity to happen, which is it's already open 10 hours a day, it's active 2 hours day. What else is in the IP of slack that you think allows that use case to flourish?
I mean suddenly comes down to how we work. People are -- so One of the things we've traditionally said about Slack behind the scenes is our enduring competitive advantage is going to be the quality of our user experience and the customer love that we generate from that user experience. And the fact of the matter is like we have really high NPS, customers love to use their stuff. They tell their friends about it. It's viral, it takes off within a market. And so when people are asking their company for access to software, they're like, "Hey, can you put this thing in Slack. So we've been able to develop this kind of groundswell and grassroot support and pull from our users. I think that is really, really helping us right now.
You saw it play out a large social networking company last week, right?
This opens up an interesting trade here on monetization, and I'll ask it in a couple of different ways. So first with Slack. Historically, it's been a seat count model?
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[indiscernible] And now you have any given user getting boat loads more value, especially for the AI pilot examples that you gave there. How does the pricing model change for the Shopify users of the world?
So it's interesting. So we have -- and Bill, obviously, feel free to chime in here. We have a series of plans. So we've -- I think we've been one of the more successful premium products that we still have overwhelming majority of what we call our invoice business, which is our sales business, our enterprise sales business, initiates what we call self-serve. So you started as a free team. You grow up through our plans through nudges in the product use more features of the product, start paying for it and eventually convert over into what we call an invoice enterprise plan that our salespeople help do with.
From a monetization perspective, I think there's a couple of things that we can do here is to one, like overall, like the total TAM for knowledge workers is around $1 billion at this point. So I think we still have a ton of upside. As it relates to user acquisition. But increasingly, I think you're going to see more agents in slack than you see humans, and that creates a fascinating monetization opportunity that we haven't totally tracked not yet on but I think it creates incredible upside for Salesforce. And so you can think of agents potentially as users. You can think of consumption-based mechanisms for monetization as agents are actually the access patterns for information and is locked by agents is very different than that from humans. And so we're in the early stages of that, but I could not be more excited about the upside for the [indiscernible].
And I'll build on that, Rob. I think as sort of Rob mentioned, what started as largely per user per month is now expanding into the agents that are sort of exploding the workforce. The usage that's exploding like never before. And even into the future, you're going to start to see kind of more things like outcomes that like organizations are sort of ruminating on or delivering with slack that sort of cortex of that work, that really become kind of opportunities for participating in more value exchange between us and the customers that we serve.
So as you think about sort of the monetization opportunities, they're highly elastic and they're highly sort of variable based on sort of what companies do with the software. And what is really fascinating about Slack is how much people do with the software and how we all embrace it in sort of our core work and workflow, and it just becomes almost like the place where I prefer to do my work as opposed to all these other systems that might have had to interface to do my job with prior. So I think the monetization sort of opportunity, what started sort of very small around the user base world now expands into lots of different sort of upside potential for many of our businesses [indiscernible] included.
And that, I think, goes back to something you asked earlier that I didn't perfectly answer when you were talking about our differentiation or how we might maintain this. I think that's our moat, honestly, is like the distribution that we've had, the compounding context flywheel that sits in Slack and just the more and more you use it, the more and more valuable it becomes -- and I think that's ultimately the moat.
Bill, I want to ask you a couple of broader monetization questions. The data point we got from Miguel on the earnings call was 5% roughly of the Salesforce installed base is on premium SKUs. And premium SKU can sometimes be a 60% to 80% uplift. Could you just break this down for us a little bit if we're a Salesforce customer, and we're not one of the ones that have already invested engineering resources and to making cloud-first happen without quote for [indiscernible] we say, Core4 sounds amazing. How soon can we onboard. What -- explain the 60% to 80% a little bit more, what is that uplift?
Yes. Let me give you -- it's sort of in the case of our traditional 2 core cloud Sales Cloud and Service Cloud, but -- when you think about all the software that's required to make a salesperson sort of productive, not only is oftentimes your CRM system for managing your sales pipeline, your context, your accounts, et cetera. But that often sort of expands into your sales performance management system, where my quota, where my commission, where my compensation sort of management systems are aligned maybe my sales and admin software, which is sort of help me kind of become enabled or effective as a seller. Maybe that's where all my content exists. I can come out and deliver pitches or proposal to my customers.
And there's also sort of all these extremely like sometimes it's called recording software or coaching software that helps me sort of in moments of working with customers. Well, the average sort of spend on a customer with all of those other technologies in the United States, it's about $1,300 for an average sales professional. And what we've been able to do is put a lot of this value into one price edition called our agent force 1 addition or -- we may have a new name for that next week, but I'll call it [indiscernible] today. That [indiscernible] addition is retails for USD 550. So the goal here is to really kind of take money out of the extremities for we know every sales organization has to recruit higher activate and make salespeople productive and performing and now put it into sort of 1 offering that's there.
And it's early days for us. We only started really thinking about premium levels of monetization really the last couple of years. And so as Miguel was sort of rightfully pointing out, it's just early days for us to put these premium additions into our installed base. And as they go through the life cycle of a contract with our company, what we're seeing is more and more of our customers are sort of trading up to these additions as they come up for renewal. So it's not something that will be a big bang immediately overnight is everyone on a premium addition. It is something that as companies have other contracts that they're rolling off from other vendors and now consolidating on the Salesforce. That's the motion that we're kind of running with the premium additions that are there.
And I think it really allows our customers to sort of save money in the process while driving higher performance and higher productivity for every salesperson that they do. By the way, the same is true on the Service Cloud side. You have to have a case management solution, a telephony solution sometimes a chat or channel solution that's out there. And so the same sort of kind of play is what we're engineering on that side, which is more consolidation of extremely with spend into more of a consolidated sales force platform.
So there theoretically will be an upgrade cycle that we could guess at for each of the salesforce clouds over time. That is essentially the strategy you talked about -- the thing that I want to better understand, so this can get pretty confusing pretty quickly because you've got the agent for SKU. You've got what will be the [indiscernible] You've got headless, which is sort of a pick and mix independent of [indiscernible] maybe just help -- you had a beautiful cohort description earlier. -- help us put this into cohort, so we can understand what the different customer...
We're doing a pretty good job of all the names. And so like I said, the naming is something that we're definitely working through as a team, but let me kind of make it really simple. With our agent force addition, you get cloud force, you get agent force, you get data cloud and you get the best of all the Sales Cloud that's there. So we want to have 1 addition that they all come into and [indiscernible] Yes, exactly, a premium tier of all of those offerings.
Now can you buy all of those items discretely? Yes, you can buy all those items discretely but we want to make it an economically viable and attractive offering for companies to get the best of Salesforce in this 1 edition because what we know is that for those organizations that run that agent force 1 addition, their salespeople are more productive. They're using the software more because they have Slack also into that addition. They have our Tableau offering. So they have all the analytics that they need to be productive in their role. And so this is really not just a strategy of sort of loading someone up all the sales force that they could have, it's really we've engineered this from the start to make it the best addition for workers to have the best performance of their lives.
And that is the 60% to 80% or math it back...
That's right. That would be where that number would correlate to.
Okay. Now let's introduce in [indiscernible] qualified into the equation. One of the nuances that we struggle with a little bit is thin in practice sounds a little bit like agent forcing practice but it's not explain the difference?
So I think as sort of the world of agents and agentic platforms are starting to clarify for all of us, it's become very clear that there are many customers that want to have purpose-built specialized agents to perform discrete tests on behalf of their business. Finn is a great example. -- been as a solution that was engineered for the customer service domain, really to help kind of streamline and automate a lot of those routine and interactions that the company has with its customers. And so that is a purposeful agent that is hyper specialized and focused on that area.
Hyper, which is an agent from qualified is actually a hyper focused, purpose-built agent for the marketing domain where Piper's job is to sort of sit as part of your website, enroll someone through your sales and lead qualification process and ultimately try and book meetings with sales professionals. So these are 2 agents in 2 very different tasks on top of kind of commonly what might be a website experience from a company.
Now what agent force does is it sort of orchestrates all of them in the back end. It understands and knows what Fin is doing. It knows and understands what Piper is doing. It knows and understands what agents that are built by developers are doing on this platform so that we know that one agent can start of an experience and then pick it up as a conversation traverses from the marketing world to the selling world, to the servicing world. And so this is where, again, as sort of the world between platforms that orchestrate the journey and agents to sort of power the front end of those experiences, that's how they sort of differentiate from one another.
But it's overly probably reducted to say, is it qualified versus agent force or Piper versus spin. We don't see customers sort of say, I deploy 1 or the other. Oftentimes, what we see our companies deploy all of them. They start with the top of the funnel with the piper, the bottom of the funnel with the fin and agent force sort of orchestrates in between.
And then I also have to budget for anthropic token spend [indiscernible].
Yes. No, not on those offerings. If you're buying kind of cloud as or anthropic as a kind of customer, you do that with them with Anthropic, as part of sort of agent force and part of Piper and as part of FIN, you're not paying sort of for [indiscernible] tokens to make that -- those interactions powered.
Okay. That makes sense. Let me ask the broader question, which is there's an evolution in the software here that goes from being setout based to selling outcomes, selling a unit of work, which we think is quite expansionary for the software TAM where does the budget come from when you're having these conversations?
Yes. Well, I think -- maybe I'll start and Rob, you can kind of add in from your productivity lens. But I think as terms of budget goes, it depends on where the outcomes are. Sometimes outcomes are actually aligned towards savings. So the actual savings become a self-filling proposition for -- for our dollar we save, we can reinvest those dollars in the software that powers those savings. And in other cases, some of the outcomes that we're working on now like in the case of our sales and sales agent domain kind of paying for qualified leads or paying for orders that are actually booked -- and so that's where organizations are happy to invest in those outcome-based agents because the more that those agents perform, the higher revenue that they're actually performing for their organization.
So I would say that the outcome-based agents actually allow us to align value realized with budgetary sort of planning all together. I've not yet met a CFO that says, I'm not willing to give you a dollar if you're actually going to help me make -- so this is an opportunity for us to, like you said, get into more of that expansionary opportunity, especially as our benefits are more jointly aligned with customers on those domains specifically.
I mean I would layer in, we continue to see more and more of the premium for Slack because of the additional work that we're taking on and the economics we're helping our customers with. So we're a little bit different. So when you were talking about, in general, the move to headless and Cloudforce as an example, earlier within Slack, we have something called Slack bot, which is an out-of-the-box agent for knowledge workers that is built on top of Anthropic. And it's a broader sales force level, we think it's important that you'd be able to accomplish the work through whatever your tool of choice might be -- so we want to be able to tie in to any harness that you use, but we are going to have a penned harness out of the box, and that is lockout.
And so when we go to -- when we look at Blackbaud, 1 of the bets that we make is we actually take on the burden of token economics ourselves. And so it's part of the producer per month for our highest-grade plan, our knowledge workers that our customers are able to go to Slack bot and get done much of what they might have done in an open-ended cost tool in another way. And does it mean those other things can go away? No, it doesn't. It means it's an easier way to budget and some of the more specific higher order, like deep knowledge work that needs to happen in those other tools will happen over there. But this is just like a very easy, reliable way for you to give the knowledge work agent to the majority of your employees at a reliable cost and then really target like, yes, they need cloud code or they need cowork or they need an unlimited token spend, et cetera. So but we see often the premium that we're getting coming at the expense of utilization of other tools, frankly. And it's not necessarily elimination of heads.
It's like when you look at Slack, like we'll have a business leader brings Slack into an organization like a sales organization that like, okay, I want to connect Slack to Salesforce, and I have a goal of getting my first sales reps to -- my new sales reps, too productive in 90 days or less. It used to take 6 months, and you connect Salesforce and Slack together, and they can do that, and they're effectively accelerating revenue rather than -- and taking some cost out because they aren't using third parties to come in and train those people. They're actually having the software to do it for them. Or it's like, okay, we're doing a percentage of our internal meetings through huddles now as opposed to these other things that we're doing. So we're taking 30% of the workload off of some of those other tools. Similar things with documents, similar things with agents for knowledge work. So we shave off by being more convenient, economics in other places.
I have 2 big picture software questions. I want to pick [indiscernible]. So the first is, Bill, you've talked in the past about back office versus front office convergence and how agents can perhaps blur the lines. What do you think is the future of what has historically been silos between back and front office.
Yes. I started my career as a production scheduler for Motorola as an intern. And so I was like a back office dude, and then I learned about this magical thing called CRM, which is about like actually working with customers. And so I've always had this like inter rift in my own brain between back office and front office. And what was sort of fascinating is the limits of the technology systems have always been really about the roles that were kind of specialized to perform discrete tests and functions. And when you learn about like a lot of the systems in use for many businesses, those con systems themselves were operationalized or built for the concern of what human labor could do. And so I think it's so fasting right now, and Rob, you talked about and alluded to it with the Slack world, we'll see more agents in our workplace than employees and human employees sometimes in our workplace to perform work in tasks.
And so we have to go back to the ability to reinvent a lot of these fundamental systems and processes and activities that people do because now the technology is going to be always on, always running in our lives really to help us become more productive and to drive higher quality output in the work that we sort of perform. So if anyone here is sort of a back office and front office sort of Maven, I'm sorry to say, I think they'll blend, and I think that they will blend in ways that really break down a lot of categories and a lot of sort of opportunities. But at the end of the day, if we use software to make companies perform better, that's where value systems like Salesforce are really being engineered for from day 1 which has helped make our companies be better companies, help them sort of engage their customers in better ways and help them sort of transform their business, not to recreate yesterday's legacy but really to define what tomorrow sort of looks like.
So I'm very, very bullish about just workplace and workforce transformation in that regard. I never want to have to kind of do MRP scheduling again in my life. And so I'm very, very excited about this ability to fundamentally hand some of that work to agents and to spend energy where I like to spend energy, which is with people and relating in new and exciting ways.
Okay. So the second one is horizontal versus vertical. And you'll have some pretty spiky comments from David Friedberg, gets to the beginning of the earnings call on horizontal leading vertical. You've announced some really interesting life sciences wins. For either of you, what do you think is the future of vertical software?
Maybe I can start Black is inherently more horizontal, I think, than the rest of the Salesforce products. And -- but I think there are opportunities for us to get more vertical. And I think maybe that will be a good segue to Bill. But again, coming back to like the total available market for knowledge workers, like it's in excess of 1 billion people, I think, globally. And so we very much look at the horizontal opportunity for Slack because what's been very interesting is if you look at from the inception of Slack, the challenge that was set forth for the team was, is there a way that we can build software that will make coordination easier to make people -- the hardest part of people's working lives coordination, more simple, pleasant and productive.
And that's a problem space that fortunately has endured pretty tectonic shifts in underlying technologies, whether that be the cloud substrates to now the new models, like coordination is still pain right? I don't think there's a red [indiscernible] article like go read that. And I think there's just -- remains tremendous horizontal opportunity for coordination and orchestration of work for knowledge workers despite everything that's happening with agents that are out there today. I think there are domains that we can verticalize in that we're interested in, you're starting to see us do with Slack code, which is we can -- that span industry vertical. And so I think you'll see us go into stove pipes of LOBs rather than necessarily industry verticals, but I think you expect to see us go long on tech and dev and coding in particular from a verticalization perspective.
Yes. In the spicy commentary, I think, really, the message was about finding out where really your true differentiation in your about to create unique value sort of represents. And if you keep going down that spectrum, there's horizontal and then there's vertical and then there's regional and then there's local and then there's personal sort of opportunities to create value along that sort of spectrum. And I don't think that value stops on any one of those sort of kind of stops along the journey. I do think there's immense opportunity for us to utilize the technology and I think I take a lot of inspiration for what Slack does for me in my life where I get out of my own way, and I work with my team and I work with my group and I work with my organization in ways that I never could do before.
But that just sort of goes on that same spectrum where I'm now working less in a local way but more in a communal way. And I think that as we see this vertical opportunity maybe more clearly, there is great value that we can create making hyper-relevant computing for companies in certain industries that maybe have regulatory requirements and uniqueness that allows us to maybe sort of deliver higher-value services or not. So I'm not sort of a big believer in the versus, I think there's a big spectrum of opportunity there, and we're excited to sort of play in that spectrum broadly speaking.
It's really good stuff. Please join me in thanking Bill and Rob for their time. Thank you [indiscernible].
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Salesforce — Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference 2026
Salesforce stellt die Zusammenarbeit mit Anthropic als Cloudforce vor, positioniert Slack als Betriebssystem für KI‑Agenten und skizziert neue Monetarisierungshebel.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Partnerschaft: Kooperation mit Anthropic soll Front‑Office‑KI (Cloudforce) produktiv und breit einsatzfähig machen.
- Slack‑Strategie: Slack wird als „Operating System“ für Knowledge Worker und als Verteilplattform für Agenten und Anwendungen positioniert.
- Monetarisierung: Fokus auf Premium‑SKUs und agentenbasierte Nutzungsmodelle statt reiner Seat‑Preise, langfristiges Upsell‑Potenzial.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Cloudforce‑Rollout: Produkt ist bereits in frühen Kunden bereitgestellt; Salesforce betont schnelle Aktivierung und Integrationen.
- Headless‑Architektur: Ziel ist mehr Arbeit durch Services statt mehr Zeit in klassischen UIs – Slack und Cloudfront (headless) orchestrieren Workflows.
- Agent‑Orchestrierung: Agent Force soll unterschiedliche spezialiserte Agents (z. B. Marketing, Service) zusammenführen und Übergaben entlang der Customer Journey managen.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Produktname: Einführung von „Cloudforce/Agent Force“ als Paketangebot; frühe Details zu Zusammensetzung bestätigt.
- Preisbeispiel: Referenz: Konsolidierung mehrerer Tools mit angenommener durchschnittlicher Kosten $1.300 pro Verkäufer vs. Premium‑Edition ~ $550, Ziel: deutliche Kosten‑/Leistungsverbesserung.
- Token‑Ökonomie: Für einige Slack‑Agenten übernimmt Salesforce die Token‑Kosten im Premium‑Plan, Nutzer müssen nicht separat für Anthropic‑Tokens zahlen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Partner‑Risiko: „Fox in the henhouse“ – wie abhängig ist Salesforce von Anthropic? Antwort: unterschiedliche Missionen, Salesforce sieht sich als Orchestrator und Schutzraum für Geschäftsanwendungen.
- UI‑Verlust: Sorge, Salesforce werde nur noch „Datenbank“ – Management betont, dass Metadaten und Unternehmenslogik nicht leicht replizierbar sind und mehr Arbeit über Services läuft.
- Adoption & Pricing: Drei Kundensegmente (Early Adopters, Skalierer, Skeptiker); Monetarisierung durch Premium‑SKUs, Agenten als neue Verbrauchs‑/Outcome‑Modelle, Umstieg sukzessiv über Vertragszyklen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Relevanz: Die Präsentation zeigt ein klares AI‑First‑Produktnarrativ: Partnerschaften (Anthropic), Slack‑Zentralität und neue Preishebel könnten das TAM erweitern, bergen aber Implementations‑, Economics‑ und Wettbewerbsrisiken.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, and thank you for joining us for our Q2 FY '27 IR webinar on product adoption and momentum. I am Mark Murphy, EVP of Global Investor Relations. Here with Valmik Desai on the far end, representing the IR team for Salesforce. We're very grateful to be joined by Bill Patterson, President and Chief Commercial Officer, sitting next to Valmik; as well as Connor Marsden, President of Sales and Chief Consumption Officer. These are 2 very dynamic and impactful thought leaders in the industry. Gentlemen, first off, thank you for joining us this morning.
Good morning. Great to be here.
Our goal with this is to address investors' most common questions and topics leading both into and out of our earnings report last week. Those are going to include AI monetization, AI force and other product and partnership announcements, including the one relating to Claude, infusion of AI across the platform. We're going to give you a couple of customer stories to try to demystify what is actually happening on the ground. Before we begin, I want to read you this disclaimer. Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change.
Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements. So our plan is to start with a brief presentation, and then we're going to jump into your questions. So please, at any time, when anything crosses your mind, feel free to submit your questions in the chat. And with that, I'm going to hand it over to Connor and then Bill.
Fantastic. Thanks, Mark, so much. So I'm so excited to be here today to talk about some of the momentum that we're having in the market today and really helping to turn our customers into Agentic enterprises. And so we've probably shown this slide to you a lot, and I'm going to provide some context on what we see with our customers today. So first, to ground us. As we've been in this Agentic revolution, there's really 4 key aspects to make any agent successful. It's trust, action, agency and interface. And we have rearchitected our entire platform to be able to meet the moment in today's market, starting with trust, trusted context and data that's delivered in a secure way with the right user permissions and of course, with 0 data retention as we start to integrate with the LLMs.
Our action layer, that's our application layer that our customers have used for years and years, service, sales, marketing and analytics. This is where we have our standard workflows, business processes or custom workflows and business processes to meet the unique needs of our customers. For example, Tableau today has 33 million semantic layers built in that we can now extend into our layer of agency. And you're probably seeing some new names on the list, Casey and Hunter and Marshall.
As we continue to extend our Agentic footprint, we now have out-of-the-box use cases that our customers are leveraging to drive our Agentic footprint. So for example, Casey. Casey takes advantage of the best of our Service Cloud application and the best of our data footprint underneath to provide great resolution for our customers with no human interaction. But when you do need to pass it over to a human, it's passes the context of that conversation so that human can pick up with their own agent to help solve that customer problem. And all of this is extended into our headless interfaces.
Now whether that be our traditional Lightning interface or Coworker, which is our fastest-growing AI product that we've had to date or Slack or Teams or this great announcement that we made with Anthropic with Claudeforce, being able to take the best of Claude to create custom interfaces that combine the best of Salesforce and the best of other applications into dashboards, analytics and purpose-built views into your data to help people get work done faster.
A great example of this is SharkNinja. SharkNinja is a great commerce customer, service customer, Data Cloud customer today on the platform. They launched a service agent together with our shopper agent and saw a 6% increase in conversion. But then they wanted to build their own custom agent, an unboxing agent. And this unboxing agent when you opened up one of their espresso machines would help walk a customer through how to set up the machine, how to configure it, how to make your first espresso, how to order any consumables for that item. And it required each layer. It required the agency layer. It required the service layer and it required the trust layer with Data Cloud, all uniquely positioned.
And they saw a 93% resolution rate for the customers who use that agent and only 7% had to be promoted to a human. So that represented a better customer experience and significant cost savings. And what's unique about our platform today is that when we look at the data lakes and the hyperscalers, they may have a data layer and they're building out an agency layer, but they don't have an application layer today. Or if you look at the frontier models, they certainly have an agency layer that they're building, but they don't have an application or a data layer and really understanding the metadata and the context and the semantics of the data in which they're working on.
And the traditional application providers, they may be building an agency layer on top, but they don't have the robust data layer that we have underneath. We are uniquely positioned in that we have all 4. And all the providers wish that they had Slack today to drive AI together with your employees and the marketplace today. And through this investment, we're seeing an absolute -- our Agentic footprint rapidly expand. And so when I started as the Chief Consumption Officer in February to make sure our customers are getting value off of their deployments, it was really about Slackbot, our , which is our internal agents and Agentforce, which was the foundation for our external agents that we are providing into the marketplace.
In H1, through both organic and inorganic innovation, we brought Piper and Marshall, our Momentum acquisition for conversational AI for our salespeople. And then Coworker, which we launched at the tail end of H1. And that's going to rapidly expand into H2 with our pending Fin and Contentful acquisitions, our Marshall, Albert, which is going to be taking the best of SlackBot, but extending it to non-Slack environments. But then Hunter, Casey, Page, Carter, just to name a few, and then all powered with our headless and Claude applications.
Now what's really interesting is we have 10,000-plus customers today that are uniquely using one of our AI products. And now we're seeing significant momentum as we're having more success of people adding a second, third and fourth AI solution from Salesforce. So we can continue to sell into our base and driving new customer acquisition, which roughly doubled since the beginning of February, the number of customers who had our AI products in production. But now we can start to cross-sell into that base of customers to show more value from an Agentic standpoint from Salesforce. And what this really has helped us lead to is fantastic financial results.
Our Agentforce and data ARR grew by 200-plus percent to $3.9 billion. Our Agentforce ARR is up 200% to $1.5 billion. And most impressively, and this is a measure of value and the work being done on the platform, we saw a 97% increase of our AWUs to 7 billion. Now we get asked the question all the time, like who's using our platform? And is it old industry, new industries? 9 out of the top 10 AI-native companies have chosen Salesforce to be their central nervous system in their brain for running their operations today. Now what's another thing that's enabled some of the success? So one of the things we talk a lot about here at Salesforce is speed to value with our customers. And we've made a lot of really smart investments to really unlock the value for our customers.
So starting on the right-hand side of the screen are builders. Builders are our version of FTEs. We have roughly 600 today in the market that are all embedded with inside of our sales team, working hands on board with our keyboard, and we're going to be more than doubling this investment towards the end of the year. We really saw the value in out-of-the-box agents. That's the Casey, Hunter, Piper because when you have an out-of-the-box agent together with our apps and our data layer, we're really able to drive fast time to value and get our agents up and running in 30 to 45 days. And then we wanted to unlock the entire developer community. And so we launched Agent Script, which allows us to plug in Agentforce into Claude or Codex so that they can use the development environment of their choice and drive deployment with inside of Agentforce. And that's why we're seeing the time to deploy significantly improve.
And then just one other aspect I want to talk about. All these since we've identified every layer of our platform for our traditional applications, sales and service, we're able to use these coding tools, Claude and Codex to actually configure our Salesforce environment. And we're seeing a 40% improvement on how quickly we can get our customers onto our platform. One large major global retailer that we are working with needed to do a contact deployment with agents on the front end. Their internal engineering team gave them a quote that it was going to be 35 weeks to deploy a custom build of that solution.
They chose Salesforce, we were able to get it live in 6 weeks. It's phenomenal about how we can use the tools to deploy our platform to bring agents along for the ride and really turn them into an Agentic enterprise. And this is really reflected in the new customer acquisition that we've been able to drive to that. I briefly touched on SharkNinja. We have Dell that's using us for supply chain today, 19,000 individuals at Dell uses to route complex supply chain requests, automate the processes, and it's saving roughly 30 hours per week per team. We talk about fast time to value, Live Nation. They just had a great festival, BottleRock up in Napa Valley. And we were able to get an agent up and live in 30 days where they had 37,000 guest interactions, and they're going to be expanding this to all their festivals across the world.
And then Wyndham. Wyndham deployed an agent in their contact center that saw a 25% increase in the average -- or decrease in the average handle time that they were able to deploy. And that required their application layer with agents and then on the foundation of data that we're able to bring to bear. So we're seeing fantastic momentum today with our platform, with our customers. We're seeing expanded usage of our apps. And now we're starting to see customers go back to the well again and add the second, third and fourth Agentic solution from Salesforce. And this is going to drive monetization at every layer of our platform. And so now I'm going to hand it over to Bill to maybe talk about how we're trying to innovate from a pricing perspective.
Yes. Thank you, Connor. And look, I think one of the reasons that I love working at Salesforce, it's the slide that you see here. It's all the customers that we're bringing really into this Agentic era of truly transforming their business. But I can guarantee you if you have the wrong pricing model and the wrong monetization model, they're not going to transform. In fact, they're going to be really confused. And so one of the things my team has been deeply focused on is really simplifying and streamlining a lot of our pricing and packaging opportunities really to give customers benefit at this time. Enterprise software has always been complicated. It's always been challenging to sort of price by feature or priced by size of an offering or how much scale do you want to put into your solutions.
And so when we had this moment really about helping our customers, we went back to sort of the foundations of Salesforce and said, what we really need to do at this time is invent a new pricing structure that really aligns to the benefits that customers realize from this new technology that you just went through. And that's where, number one, the first area of focus for my organization is ultimately helping with better predictability, but really better value realization for customers. And so we've invented a whole new model called outcome-based pricing.
Our help agents like Casey, like you talked about, are priced by the resolutions that they drive for our customers. And if they don't resolve the issue, you don't pay for the offering. And so this is truly putting our money where our mouth is around driving better value realization for customers who utilize our technologies. In addition, it's not always the case where you can have price agents on an outcome-based way because sometimes agents work across multiple disciplines, multiple domains, multiple offerings. And so what we've also done is really gone back to the drawing board around creating better value-based bundles and flex credits to flex and scale and stretch the platform as needed to really utilize and deploy the capabilities you need to make your business successful.
As Connor started, the architecture is so pervasive now and it's so impressive and it's accelerating every day. But really the flex credit manifestation lets you use all of those capabilities to use what's right for your business and just give you kind of more value at scale. And what we learned at this moment in time is customers are on different sort of modes and pacing of this journey. And so we need to ultimately be more flexible. We need to kind of offer new ways to sort of activate your business on Salesforce. And so this is sometimes where you utilize things like pay as you go. So I just need to pay for enough if I'm consuming from the platform and put it into action or thank you. I use kind of deeper contract structures like our Agentic Enterprise Licensing Agreement, which gives you unlimited access to all the technology, utilize what you need, put it into kind of practice and then scale that across your business like never before.
So these new structures, more predictability, more customer value, more flexibility are fundamentally transforming how we serve our customers in this moment because at the end of the day, if it's confusing and if we're not serving our customers, it really doesn't matter. Let me build a little bit on behind the scenes about how we're kind of using this new Headless 360 monetization structure. We got a lot of questions about this from developers and a lot of our partners. But essentially, as I mentioned, everything is a compounding model here at Salesforce. And so Flex credits serve as the foundation of every sort of consumption utility that we have in our offering. And so for -- if you just want to sort of get started, you use what we call our Salesforce Foundations platform and Flex credits, and that just sort of runs the meter for what you kind of access on the platform itself.
One of the things we're really excited to do, though, is to offer kind of more of that predictability, more of that value for every user. And so we've created what we call this Headless Add-on, which packages a lot of work capacity for every user, make it easy. So maybe you and I use the software a little bit differently. You're probably a lot more intense on the software with how much kind of consumption you're driving. But essentially, that headless add-on monetizes just in a simple way for every user to access the platform, and it gives you enough capacity that you need to get your job done.
So we take this Headless Add-on, put a lot of more capacity. This is all the AWUs you need to be productive. And now that becomes a simple way for every organization to start accessing new technologies like Claudeforce, the partnership we just announced with Anthropic. Now we're also going to take that Headless Add-on and package it into our premium edition. So as you move up the value stack for Agentforce for sales or Agentforce for service or maybe one of our Agentforce for industry offerings, this capability kind of nests inside of that sort of productivity suite. And so this is where we start to see the magic start to occur. All of that AI centralized and organized by role, optimized for every user makes our users very productive with the amount of capacity they need and it's really that focused productivity they require to get their job done. And so that Agentforce service or sales add-on also next in our premium edition.
So this is where this compounding monetization simple model, it just embeds into every prior edition embeds into the top tier. This makes it really simple for our customers to plan, predict and scale their use of Salesforce in this moment in time. And ultimately, the Agentforce 1 Edition is the best of Salesforce for all roles. It's what includes our traditional applications like sales and service. It packages Slack, it packages Tableau. And so ultimately, this is where the best of all of our company's offerings come together in that Agentforce 1 Edition. And this is really exciting to see the growth of this offering because it means more customers are finding more value with the platform in this moment in time. And ultimately, at the end of the day, it's about transforming their businesses with the technology we serve them with.
I know, Bill, when I go and talk with our customers today, and there's a lot of concern over the cost of AI. We've heard some of the stories on Token Max and things of that nature. We have the flexibility to provide a limited agreement so we can take that -- we can provide a predictable model on what the cost can be. If customers are using multiple solutions from Salesforce, you don't need to precisely predict what the consumption or anything is because you have flex credits that are fungible that can be plugged into your data solution if you end up using more of our data products or across your various agents. And so we can kind of meet the moment for wherever our customer is on the journey to provide them the right contracting and pricing to meet their requirements. That's where our breadth and scale really comes to provide comfort for our customers that they know they're going to only pay for what they're going to be using and whatever iteration that we decide to package it out there.
I was with a customer just recently, and they said their spending is up 30%. And when they actually did the math, their productivity was up by about 3%. And so there's just a fundamental mismatch today between what is going on in the spending environment and then the value realization environment. Our mission is to change that. It's to be easier, to be more simple, to be more valuable for every customer. So you're not counting how many tokens, you're counting how many leads that you process or how many new orders that you sort of manage or how many cases you resolved on our platform.
And then just the last thing that has been eye-opening for me personally is users. What this model is providing, especially with Headless is it's actually giving us access to more users internally, people who want to take advantage and consume the application. And it may not be the full Salesforce application. It may be a headless application that they're engaging with and consuming. And so it's actually expanding our TAM across the addressable user base inside of our customers.
Yes. I think serving customers is not limited to one department. And so the opportunity to really use this new platform, this new capability to reach into -- across the organization so that we all can work in service of our business and all work in service of our customers, it's ultimately where we're seeing a lot more value be created and a lot more sort of growth opportunity for our customers to realize on the basis of what this platform can do for them.
Yes, it really unlocks more -- it just really unlocks the system. So if someone in finance needs to address a service or a pricing issue, they can get access to the right screen to get their work done efficiently with AI guiding their journey.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much, Connor and Bill, for all those comments. We'd now like to go ahead and get into the Q&A session, and we've left plenty of time for that. [Operator Instructions] While we queue up those questions, I want to begin with the first question we see, which says on Agentforce and Data 360 pricing, you've iterated through several models, is the pricing approach getting clearer for customers? And are you seeing their preferred way to consume it become clearer too?
Yes. First off, thank you for the question for those that submitted online. First off, is the pricing getting more clear? God, I hope so. We have actually kind of been iterating along the way around different moments of what the AI can do. And in some cases, like you've seen, where Agentforce started as a platform where we're building a lot of capabilities and it was about building agents, we have to price in a platform kind of way. And so that really made it so you were probably maybe too atomic for what you were monetizing in the offering.
As we have these new worlds of out-of-box agents or complete agents, finished agents to serve a domain that can get to an outcome, it's a lot more easy to predict and scale those kind of price and monetization moments because the value exchange is clear. And so as the feedback continues to come in for our ecosystem, it is getting more clear. It is getting easier to deploy. It is getting easier for customers to sort of realize value. And that value exchange is ultimately kind of where, again, as Connor and I were talking, very different from sort of how many tokens do you need to be productive. So I definitely think there's a much more clear approach. It's not limited Agentforce. We've also been sort of simplifying our approach with Data Cloud and sort of some of those underlying technologies to serve the agents with. And so as I mentioned, we sure hope it's getting clear. Our customer feedback has been quite strong. But again, how that measures and manifests is the more that customers adopt, that's where we see success.
It's natural when you have a kind of Cambrian explosion in all of these new technologies, the new surfaces, the new form factors there has to be experimentation in the early innings, right?
Well, we always say the inventor of the ship also invented the shipwreck. And so we really needed to make sure that we went through these iterations and tested what works, what scales. But ultimately, at the end of the day, our mission isn't just sort of put technology in the world and hope you get value from it. No, this is where we go back to our roots in Salesforce and say, you get value from the offering and get value from the agents and the value exchange between our customers and our company is clear. And so yes, I definitely appreciate the feedback. It's been a lot of iteration, but I think the signs for customer benefit and growth of usage, as you've seen, Connor, are starting to show the signs of a much more clear approach here.
Wonderful. Thank you. Our second question, I should read the names as they're coming in, is coming from Luke Heinen of Madison Investments. Thank you, Luke. And this says, how are you or will you monetize Slackbot if customers prefer to use Claude within Slack, is there a way to monetize that? Or does that limit the Slack revenue opportunity?
Yes. Great question. Thank you, Luke, for the question. We are planning to monetize Slackbot as part of your Slack subscription. First off, Slack is a per seat or per user subscription access fee. So everyone who sort of wants to access Slack pays a per user per month offering there. Inside of that per user per month offering, we give you a lot of capacity to use Slackbot to be productive. So if you're asking questions about your customers, you're asking questions about sort of your suppliers, you can use Slackbot for all kinds of sort of productivity experiences. And every user gets a lot of questions that they can ask.
Now if you have power users and you go beyond that sort of inherent supply, you can always add more capacity for Slackbot to do more work for you. So again, this is where we load you with enough work to get started. You utilize what we call our Flex credits to expand that usage capacity as you sort of need -- usage grows over time. And it really allows the organizations to sort of kind of crawl and walk them truly run with AI into their offering.
The second part of your question about embedding Anthropic inside of Slack, does that limit Slack's revenue appeal? Absolutely not. Anthropic is good at some things. Slackbot is good at some things. Other partner offerings and other AI offerings are good at some things. And so what you really should expect from Salesforce and ultimately, with Slack as a surface in the canvas for us is expanding the number of opportunities that other productivity systems can integrate because what we know is integrating in the tools of choice of the customers that we serve is going to ultimately make them more productive on the platform. So we don't see that as a limiter. We actually see it as an amplifier. And we do think that it also drives happier users. By the way, happier users drive more usage, more usage drives more retention. So this flywheel of opportunity and growth truly starts to get groundswell and steam.
So I actually had this question happen with the customer where they were using Claude and they're evaluating Slackbot. And fundamentally, Slackbot uses Claude as the underpinning of the LLM. But we provide practically unlimited capability, unlimited use of Claude with inside the Slackbot licensing model today. And so what I told the customer is I said, "Hey, you can use Claude and pay per token or you can have an unlimited use of the application inside of Slackbot and not worry about your token expense, have the same capabilities, have the same ability to share skills to be productive and drive it. And they found that to be a much more appealing model than using Claude from a token perspective today, and they opted for SlackBot.
And so this is, once again, from a pricing packaging standpoint, what are the scenarios where you're going to uncap the amount of use of the application spread it across a lot of users, we're going to have power users and light users and have the right model versus a scenario where you're going to be paying per token that potentially can expand where you're not getting the productivity and the customer opted for Slackbot. And that's a pattern that I see playing out over and over again.
Absolutely. If I could add 2 more points on the Slack piece because it's so important to the core strategy. The Slack interface is expanding as we speak. The innovation that the team is driving there. We've talked about Slack Code briefly at earnings. When you come to Dreamforce, you're going to see a full version of what Slack Code looks like for a developer. That interface, that UI, where you're able to get your work done where previously you might have been switching between 4 or 5 different screens just to get that workflow complete, Slack is now becoming that hub for a lot of that work.
Two other stats that I think were really impressive from the quarter. First, Slack had its strongest net new AOV performance since we closed the acquisition in Q2. And second, since we launched Slackbot, just in the period from GA to today, we've seen a tripling in upgrades. So when we think about the value of Slack and how we're thinking about this broader interface layer, the more we integrate with more partners, bringing those amazing multiplayer agent experiences into that interface, the more we drive more Slackbot usage consumption adoption, the better for Slack's overall business performance and frankly, the better for how we're actually interacting with Salesforce, right?
For me, I do a lot of customer meetings when I get asked to, I love to do it. Previously, someone from Connor's team would come over and be like, okay, let me give you the prep. Let me pull stuff from our Salesforce org. Let me give you the full view. I don't have to do that anymore. I just ask Slackbot, what should I know about X customer? What's their recent products? Are they having any customer success issues? What's the team trying to sell? And it gives me a full prep doc directly within my Slack channel. And within that prep doc, I have Connor's team coming in and telling me, "Hey, here's where we really want you to focus." So this flow of the interface being everything that you would have normally done across multiple different layers showing up in Slack, we think is super, super exciting.
It's a game changer. It's addictive. I can tell you that as a new joiner that never had access to Slack and had never seen it. I said recently, if you take it away from me, you're going to have to try it out of my cold dead hands. That is how addictive that product is. Thank you for that. Next question is going to be from Alex Zukin of Wolfe. How should we think about how much certain Agentic workflows cost? Is there a dollar value per lead? Or is there a CPQ agent or a marketing agent? How many AWUs will that burn? And how should customers think about fitting this into budgets, particularly with something like Slack and code channels, et cetera? Thank you for the 3-part question there, Alex.
Alex, thank you for the thoroughness of the question. Look, let me tell you how our team thinks of setting pricing in this moment because as you've seen and heard earlier, we went through a lot of iterations on this topic. How we think about how much certain Agentic workflow costs is really about setting a value and a value for how much -- how valuable is the offering that we're sort of putting into the hands of our customers. For example, we know there is a dollar per lead because that's ultimately how organizations size and scale their own performance and their own planning and budgeting activities for how many marketing qualified leads they need to really sort of enlist and fuel their sales funnels, if you will.
So we do look at this sort of in terms of what organizations today pay, not just in software, but total cost, labor cost, workflow costs, software costs, the integration costs. All of that sort of equates to some degree of utilitary budget that an organization would sort of plan for. What we're doing is we're competing on the basis that we think we can make that easier for organizations to do based when you use our technologies. And so I don't actually want you to be think -- the second part of your question about AWUs that burn, I actually don't want you to think about that at all.
I think that's an internal measure of utilization for how we are sort of seeing how much performance happens out of our platform called the Agentic Work Unit. But what I want you to be thinking about and what I want your customers and the industry to be thinking about is really kind of the labor and the economic offset of it used to cost me maybe $5 to do a phone call. Well, now I can actually do it for $1, $2 per resolution here on the Salesforce platform. So this is where we want to just think about kind of offsetting kind of expenses for our customers and making it much more economical, much more easy to scale using the benefit of our platform that can now serve that unit of work.
Next question is from Kirk Materne of Evercore. Can you talk about how the horizontal pricing strategy for AI complements your industry cloud pricing in any industries where these new AI pricing configurations are landing best?
Yes. This is fully a pricing webinar today, I think. The horizontal pricing strategy and the industry pricing strategy sort of follows that same structure of compounding value like we talked about. where the horizontal platforms are priced sort of as a baseline and the industries and the vertical offerings that we have where they have much more acute value and much more precise value, therefore, higher value, if you will, are priced at a premium offering for our customers. And so in terms of sort of that compounding value in that stair-stepping model, our Financial Services Cloud is priced as an uplift on top of our core Sales Cloud, if you will.
And so this is where you see sort of that value compounding sort of structure really come to fruition. Are there industries where AI pricing configurations are lending the best? I can give you 2, and then maybe, Connor, you can add in. I think financial services is an area specifically where the data sets the regulated sort of environments, the sort of out-of-box functionality we built for kind of KYC and household management, these are specific areas where we have price premium capabilities for sort of the financial services industry that we price on top of our core Sales Cloud, but which maybe doesn't need those areas in the horizontal selling kind of way.
Same thing on health. And again, where you see the sort of regulated environment where you have PII information, you have information around HIPAA compliance. Our offerings that have these sort of compliant boundaries have all of this nested value on top of the horizontal offerings. And so this is where you see sort of AI for industries really command that premium price point, if you will. Maybe you can add a few from your standpoint.
I mean we're seeing a lot of momentum in our consumer goods market right now with our CG cloud. And we're seeing all the leading CG players migrate over to our platform. And there's really 2 scenarios. There's the customers who already had CG Cloud today and now they're identifying their processes with our out-of-the-box agents for CG Cloud, and we're getting an uplift as they're starting to deploy those agents. And we're seeing a lot of net new customers that are buying, deploying and creating global models for CG Cloud, but they're starting -- in the starting position, they're identifying their work processes.
And with CG Cloud, the out-of-the-box use case, they're able to deploy it in 30, 45 days on top of their existing platform. And so we're seeing tremendous momentum for that right now because the AI is purpose-built for trade promotion management, for retail execution. It's an agent that sits alongside the salesperson to understand what's the package that I sold to the customer? Have we sent the rebate check back to them for their -- for the display that they put inside of their store. All the approvals and workflows are flow through the back end of the system that the agent drives it. And it brings in the best of both worlds, the determinism and the probabilism on top of the industry solution. So we are seeing these industry models and these industry purpose-built agents really driving value and speed for our customers, which is so critical as things get more competitive in the marketplace.
Wonderful. Our next question is going to be from Samik Chatterjee of JPMorgan. What are you seeing in the early days for adoption of Agentforce 1 Edition? And do you envision the -- how do you envision the customer sales motion to upsell working?
We are seeing an explosion of upgrades to the Agentforce 1 Edition. It's been absolutely a phenomenal motion for us. And we think it's going to accelerate because we're adding Headless into the model as well. And so before, it was about unlimited Agentforce for the internal users. So an agent sitting alongside a contact center worker to help walk through a customer issue and to guide them through resolution, leveraging the full knowledge of the organization. And now it's going to be not only that agent sitting on top of, but then also what are the headless interfaces that, that employee is going to potentially want to leverage to drive. And so Agentforce 1 Edition has been a big winner for us, and we see it accelerating as we move through the foreseeable future.
Yes. I'm so excited about the Agentforce 1 Edition. When we sort of invented that offering for our customers, we were listening deeply about their needs were. And what they all told us is, number one, they wanted to be multi-cloud customers. And so what Agentforce 1 Edition has is that it not only has -- let's take in the case of Sales Cloud, has all the best offerings for what Sales Cloud can do for a sales organization, but it also has Slack. It also has Tableau. It has Agentforce. It has Data Cloud and it has Flex Credit sort of in its core. And so what this means is, for the first time, Sales Cloud customers are experiencing the benefit of Slack or the benefit of Tableau or the benefit of Data Cloud or Agentforce, et cetera. And so what we're really so excited about around sort of the sales motion side of this, a lot of it is user-driven. A lot of it is sort of application-driven.
It's almost like product-led in that more usage, more scenarios of expansion now start to occur because all of those offerings are natively there and available for the user to start discovering. And I think your point is dead on, Connor, around Headless. Headless really allows usage walls to break down between applications. It's just about getting your job done, and we're serving that in new and exciting ways with the platform itself. So I think the sales motion side, the adoption side is clear, but the selling motion is a lot of user-led expansion and user-led sort of iterations on what they do with the software every day.
That's right.
Our next question is coming from Paul Oppenheim of Ardsley Partners. Slack as the front end for usage is a really powerful position. Given that position, can you monetize carrying various frontier models similar to an Amazon Bedrock. So who wants to take that, I guess, the notion of the model router or pick up?
Well, maybe I'll start from the monetization lens and maybe, Connor, you can kind of expand on that from the customer lens. But like, look, I think this is a moment where customers want choice to sort of complete their work. And I think this is also a moment where some models are very expensive to complete low-value work. Some models are very cheap, but maybe they're not as efficient for all the kind of work exercises that are required. And so I think our position continues to be that with Slack, and we agree with your sentiment, by the way, that Slack is probably the world's best canvas to consume models with.
We think it breaks down the sort of the technical digerati of making it hard for the average user to sort of find AI productivity in their everyday work and workflow. And so we're really excited about Slack at that front-end kind of experience. On what kind of work can you get done? Yes, we think customers have the right to choose. We think customers have a right to choose various frontier models to drive various tasks. We're very, very excited about the partnership we just announced with Anthropic. We're going to expand out those partnerships in new and exciting ways to really be focused on the right tools for the job. It's not a really healthy strategy for you to sort of cut butter in the enterprise with the chainsaw. And so what we really want to do is make it easy for users to get productive and use the right model to serve the right task into the enterprise. You can probably expand that from what customers are telling you.
Well, I mean, customers are really excited about Slack because there are so many unstructured conversations that will happen about a customer. And all the frontier models want access to that data because they all see the value that taking their frontier models, applying into that data, the unique scenarios that we can start to create for customers, together with the Slack data, with the Salesforce data, with the third-party data that we're ingesting into Data 360 to get the complete picture of the customer. And so it really is the ultimate layer of bringing all the pieces together.
And clearly, like the more models we can put forth, the more choice we can provide, cost options and whatnot, what's the right model for the right job, that's definitely an area that I think we're going to continue to drive and explore because ultimately, it's going to drive more value for our customers. And the Frontier models want to get into it because it demonstrates -- it's the best demonstration of the value that their models can bring to an organization to really pull that full knowledge together and solve that problem on behalf of an employee or customer.
Everyone is aligned to Slack as that key surface. Next question we'll take is from Ted Wang, ExodusPoint Capital. Can you talk more about the industry cloud opportunities in particular, Life Sciences Cloud, wondering what the growth opportunity is there and for other industry clouds?
Yes. I think every customer we serve is in an industry. And the good news is we have a lot of industry sort of prebuilt capabilities to transform and help those organizations adopt sort of AI like never before. We have 13 different industry solutions that list continues to expand, of which Life Sciences Cloud is one of our newest ones. We are so excited about this opportunity because every organization is reinventing itself, not just on the basis of what human capital and human labor can do, but now this expanding opportunity around agentic labor and agentic sort of kind of process enablement gives us an amazing sort of runway to keep helping every one of these customers transform.
The Life Sciences Cloud opportunity, and we've seen this really accelerate since putting it into the market roughly, I think, it was less than a year has been one of our fastest-growing industry clouds. And I think because of this opportunity to safely kind of transform with the Salesforce platform, a trusted platform like you showed in the architecture today, that is what gives a lot of companies sort of the excitement and trust that they should transform their industry with Salesforce. But also these prebuilt workflows, these prebuilt capabilities, these Agentic sort of front ends give us new ways to sort of help these customers sort of find new value creation opportunities for themselves.
So this, I think, cloud continues to have huge runway ahead of it. I'm very, very excited about this customer sort of transforming. I've been with a lot of global companies, especially in France that have really taken this to cloud and embraced it to accelerate. I think this is going to be one of the growth drivers for our future on the industry platform at large.
So similar to CG Cloud, Life Sciences is going through a big upgrade cycle right now. And for the most part, we weren't in the Life Sciences business. So this is all greenfield for us. And so now a customer is trying to sit down, and I made this in my opening comments, the application companies today, they have applications, they may be trying to build some agents. They don't have the data layer, they don't have the interface layer. And when you think about life sciences cloud to deploy it to satisfy the needs of the end sales users, you want to have the right interface to meet their -- you want to have the right interface to meet those user requirements. You want to have agents built in.
You want to be able to leverage the full totality of all your knowledge internally. And so to some degree, we're bringing in a full platform that's fully identified with data, agency workflow processes and interfaces that we can in a greenfield space where we didn't have a solution, and now we're selling the full picture. We're not just selling an application from that perspective. So to some degree, it's an unfair advantage that we have right now to capture share inside of life sciences and these other industry clouds built on the standard industry framework that we're building for these industries that gives us a real advantage, and that's why we're seeing such aggressive revenue growth in life sciences and CG and the other clouds that we brought to market today.
We need an agent that can manage microphone failures. That's one thing that would help us. All right. Thank you, Ted. The next question is from Jackson Ader of KeyBanc. Are there sales enablement changes or product training initiatives that need to be undertaken for the new AI motion? Or is it pretty seamless for the existing AEs?
Yes. I'll take this one since I support a large part of our sales organization. Yes, there's a change. And it's a change in conversation. It's a change in where value is being derived with inside of our customers. And we have a very robust enablement motion that Miguel Milano has been driving of training and driving. But the best training happens on the job. So we're not just talking about AI solutions. We have them deployed internally. So our employees are using Slackbot on a daily basis. They're using our Hunter agent and consuming leads from our Hunter agent inside. If you go to salesforce.com, you'll see Piper, our Piper agent that helps generate opportunities that helps create custom presentations to customers as they're looking for product and then booking customer appointments.
So our AEs are living the experience at the same time as they're selling the experience, and that makes it so much easier for them to translate. When I go in front of a customer today, I used to spend -- my teams would spend 1 to 2 weeks putting together a background and a brief on what conversation to have. Today, I just type into Slackbot, Hey, I'm meeting with the CEO of XYZ company, what should I talk about? And it goes into Slack and it sees all the unstructured conversations. It goes into Salesforce and it says, "Hey, here's what they bought." It goes into Service Cloud and says, here's the issues and the cases that they have. And so I get the complete picture of the customer, something that literally has saved weeks of time for our customers today, and our AEs are using those tools on a daily basis.
So yes, there's training. There's new business value models that we're creating that we have to train our end users up. But the most important fundamental fact is they're living the experience on a daily basis, and they're able to bring that experience to our customers. And when our customers see how we're using AI today, it's very eye-opening, and it drives a lot of momentum and accelerated sales cycles as a result.
Yes, Connor, you and I have worked together for a long time, even time before our time at Salesforce, we're getting a little bit old now. But the transformation that's going on in the selling environment, I think you personally need to take a bow on because you are leading our company by example around what does it mean to really drive utilization and activation of everything that has been sold so that you can ultimately drive value. And this is not just me your friend saying it, I think you actually are leading the industry in this way. The element of transformation that's really exciting is when we grew up in our careers, you used to sell first and then sort of deploy.
Now what's happening is organizations are deploying, seeing that value and then selling is almost happening on the other end of that, right? So it's almost a complete inversion for how we grew up in our careers together for what selling kind of means. And so back to your point, it is not exactly the easiest transformation. We have to almost unlearn what we've learned for 25 years around sell and then deploy. Well, now it's about a deploy and sell and realize value kind of world. And I think that ultimately, this means that we will add more value for the customers that we jointly find a lot of passion serving because customers are actually getting benefit from the software, not just getting more software.
Yes. No. I mean -- and that's why we've been really aggressive of putting consumption into our frontline sellers' commissions. So if they sell something, they have to deploy it. And that's going to be tied to part of their compensation. We're going to lean more fully into that because we all know that if customers are getting value, they're going to be more asked to buy that second and third application. Going back to my original comments, we have 10,000-plus customers using our AI solutions, and now we're seeing the second, third and fourth because the customers, when they see value and they see value being created, they want more of that because that's going to translate to them supporting their customers in a deeper way.
Yes. And I think that point is actually being crystallized in one of the metrics we share with you regularly that 50% of the Agentforce, the agent-specific use case, 50% of the bookings there is actually coming from customers refilling in that exact motion, right? So I think when you get the salespeople aligned, the customers aligned, you deploy together, you get value out of it, they're willing to come back and buy a lot more.
Yes, well said. Wonderful. Our next question. This appears to be coming from a customer. Andrew Russo of BACA Systems. Thank you, Andrew. We have Agentforce 1 Edition. We upgraded to it to be able to drive business value for our team. Users are loving it. We are using Salesforce across our entire organization from sales to the manufacturing floor and finance. That being said, will Salesforce be evaluating moving sales and other automated things like sales autonomous sales agents to be outcome-based. It is much more palatable for our CFO to look at trading payroll for outcomes versus payroll for usage.
First off, we always listen to our customers. Andrew is someone from our customer community we deeply listen to because he deeply cares and is routinely at all of our events and gives this feedback to us live. Andrew, first off, I'm happy to tell you that, yes, we will be driving more outcome-based sort of offerings in sales. We'll be driving more outcome-based offerings in service. We'll be doing more outcome-based offerings across our platform because we 100% agree with you, my friend, that the more that we can drive value exchange between us and the customers that we serve and making it easy for you to talk to your CFO, we want to make that easy for you because, again, tracking tokens and token spend doesn't always equate to business value exchange.
Outcomes really allow you to sort of start to scale and predict the value, not just sort of consumed, but the value realized from our platform. And so this is something that we're really excited to talk about at Dreamforce in just a few weeks' time. You should expect to hear more about as more of our agents move into the outcome world, how they will find mutual value between us and your organization. But again, thank you for everything you do, Andrew, for our community, and thanks for coming on to the webinar here this morning.
Yes. And let me just add that this is where our scale really comes to advantage because we can have various pricing models for our customers based on the individual use case versus a collection of use cases, whether it be agents or data or Slack, from that standpoint. And so charging on a per lead that gets qualified through Hunter, that's a direction that we're definitely going. Now clearly, from an AI standpoint, when I see sales -- autonomous sales agent, like how far we can push sales into agents to take that off of the sales team. So smaller transactions just go through an autonomous agent, we're going to be pushing that as hard as possible. And in fact, internally, we're actually seeing our agents drive revenue in smaller transactions with no human touch.
So as the models become more sophisticated, as our determinism becomes more effective, we're going to push down into that. And I think that is going to create new monetization models for Salesforce and for our customers, so they're only paying for the value that they are going to drive.
Thank you, Andrew, for those thoughts. Our next question is from Tyler Radke of Citi. You mentioned last quarter that a large portion of Agentforce net new AOV was driven by top-up credits. What are the high-value use cases that are driving top-up actions? Does that change with the Claudeforce announcement? And maybe one of -- maybe for the benefit of anyone who's not familiar, just explain what a top-up action is.
Sure. Essentially, when we have a sale of credits to a customer, it's -- you're buying capacity for an Agentforce or a Data Cloud to be used for kind of usage that might be a service use case or a sales use case or a data kind of processing use case, et cetera. And so an initial sale might supply you with a certain amount of capacity. When we talk about a top-up credit, that means a customer has consumed all of that capacity and needs to refill the tank and put more in the tank because their usage is sort of kind of going beyond maybe their expectations. It is a great sort of bellwether of success that customers are actually driving sort of usage and retiring the credit that they sort of bought against one of the usage scenarios because ultimately, as we've sort of mentioned earlier on outcome-based pricing, that means they're getting benefit from that usage.
So of the high-value use case that we see for driving top-up actions, one of the clearest signs of value between us and our customers for Agentforce specifically has been in the customer service domain. Today, we use Agent force at Salesforce. You can go to help.salesforce.com, see the solution live and running on our own website. You can see how many cases we're sort of driving, how many sort of interactions that we're resolving all autonomously with the power of that platform. That is the kind of clear use cases that are truly starting to emerge is customer service and customer service resolutions are probably the highest value use case that's there.
There are others. We also have deployed Piper, our kind of digital SDR agent on salesforce.com as well. You can have a conversation with Piper. Piper actually is an agent that is working to qualify you, nurture you, put you into a selling funnel. That's the kind of usage that again, you buy a bunch of credits. Once you kind of get more usage, you top up those credits because you're obviously qualifying or nurturing more leads using the power of digital agents sort of to drive that activity. What are some of the others that your customers are seeing?
Yes. So it's a great question. So from a consumption standpoint, the service use case drives roughly 5x the amount of AWUs as the other use cases just because of the intensive workflows and the sophistication of the determinism behind the agent that's required to satisfy. That's why we're so excited for the Fin acquisition because it's going to be bringing in a service use case to a part of the market that we're not serving today. And so it's going to be very complementary to our current service use cases that we have inside of Agentforce. And so service is by far where we see the most top of action. But what's really -- what I've seen over and over again, especially in our retail space, is that people are looking for super agents. So they're looking for a single agent that they can drive an Agentic commerce experience.
And then if a customer needs to do a return or claim there's something wrong with their product and get that fixed, they want to have it in a single user interface. And now we're seeing this concept of super agents of multiple use cases layered together to go and solve a customer's issue. And the Claudeforce announcement is only going to accelerate that because Claudeforce, we're going to be using, as I mentioned in my earlier comments, some of the agent scripts, which is a really technical term, but in essence, it opens up to a developer.
You can plug in Claude into our Agentforce platform to drive faster deployment. So that's what our FTEs use today to really configure and get agents up and running in 30 days. So Claudeforce is going to accelerate it. And because we have a platform with out-of-the-box use cases, you can start to layer those use cases up. I'll give you one customer example. We have a customer -- we actually have a lot of customers that fall in this scenario, where they'll buy a shopping agent from one vendor and then they'll have a service agent from another vendor. And so they've got 2 separate agents that a customer has to go to, to resolve an experience. And the customers that know I go to this agent for this or that agent for that.
They just want to be able to talk to the agent and get it resolved. Our framework and our architecture allows us to have a single agent experience to be able to jump from a shopping experience into a service experience, all contained inside of one agent that helps lead to more top off because now there's multiple ways that they can consume those flex credits that Bill was talking about. So as people are shopping more, they can use more Flex credits for shopping. As they're driving more service actions, they can drive Flex credits to drive those service actions. Ultimately, the customer is seeing more value and their customers are having a much easier experience in working together with that brand.
Okay. We're coming up on the top of the hour. We're not -- so we're unfortunately not going to be able to get to every single question that is in the queue. We will do our best to follow up with those of you if we're not able to get to your question. The last question is coming from Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. How are you handling model choice and model routing? Will Agentforce be served by a preferred model? Do customers have choice to bring their own models?
That's a great question. And I think it's probably a question really on the minds of a lot of our innovation teams today, ultimately, making sure that the right model is used for the right purpose. But I think it starts with when we built Agentforce and we built the architecture of Agentforce initially, we've always sort of allowed our customers to bring their own model. We've allowed them to sort of optimize what each of the prompts that Agentforce sort of powers behind, you have the ability to sort of pick what models you use to complete those tasks. Because in not every case, you need a premium model to sort of perform kind of routine workflow, if you will.
And so we will continue to sort of open up the platform and allow our customers to sort of bring their own in a perspective. Sometimes they've built their own models and they want to use those models as part of their routine workflow. And so we need to sort of open our platform for that kind of usage altogether. But the further part of the question about will Agentforce be served by a preferred model. I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all kind of structure that we think is preferred or not preferred. What we're going to continue to do is as model innovation continues to sort of exist in the world, we'll keep testing the right models for the right purpose in the right domain. And we will make sure that we will always select probably the best initial model, but allow customers to choice to sort of override to provide sort of the best fit for their organization at large.
So yes, we're -- and I think as we sort of continue to sort of get into the place of arbitrating what is the right sort of offering and the right sort of routing solution, that's an area that we're happy to talk more about at Dreamforce in a few weeks' time around how the innovation platform is starting to emerge.
Here's one thing that I'd add to that. We're working with all the model providers. We're working with open source models as well. And ultimately, what we're trying to do for our customers is we're trying to abstract that complexity from them because all the customer cares about is what's the end outcome that they're getting. Is there a service case being resolved? Is their lead getting generated? Are we providing the right pre-summary brief or field service to the end user so they understand the work that's going to be provided. And our platform allows us to abstract that.
And so it's not the preferred model. It's what's the right model that we need to provide to solve that. And if it's a lower cost model, great. We do a lower cost model, and we can have that value exchange with our customers. But ultimately, our mindset is going to be what's the right model to solve the problem that the customer has so we can deliver the right outcome. And that's where we're grounded right now. And the flexibility of our platform is going to enable us to be able to drive that on behalf of our customers, which is going to be an advantage in the marketplace today.
Yes. I'm going to sneak in one other question that an investor had on the gross margins of all this because I think it's very tied to this question. And obviously, token pricing has shifted a lot. You got a new model launch. The older models might get less expensive or more expensive if they're trying to force you up to that new model. There's a lot of confusion in that, to your point, Connor, on, okay, what do I do from a customer? Which model is right for my use case? We take that ownership on. We help you decide what makes sense for you. If you're really, really set on this is the model I want to use, great, we'll do that. But if we think about the efficiency accuracy curve, which is really what everyone is trying to solve for, we want the most accurate and most efficient outcome and choosing the right model for the right task enables us to take advantage on a gross margin side of the efficiency and token pricing changes that are happening.
So we're being really thoughtful from innovation to pricing and how we're thinking about the underlying gross margin impact of the business on where does that fit? How do we get the best kind of agent routing to the right model to be able to solve for the most accurate, best outcome for the customer while solving on the back end for the gross margin side. So it's a constant moving target, but the teams are working really well together to make sure that happens.
Before we close today, one quick reminder, mark your calendars for our Investor Day is coming up on September 16 at Dreamforce. You're going to be able to tune in for a deeper look at our latest innovation and financial framework. I want to make sure I'm thanking Connor and Bill and Valmik for being here to speak today and overcoming each and every technical hurdle very seamlessly that was encountered. And to our audience, thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you next time.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
Salesforce positioniert sich als Full‑Stack‑Plattform für „agentic“ KI mit schnellen Deployments, neuen Monetarisierungsmodellen und starker Kundenadoption.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Plattform: Salesforce betont vier integrierte Schichten—Vertrauen/Daten, Applikationen, Agent‑Layer und Interfaces—als Alleinstellungsmerkmal gegenüber Hyperscalern und Modellanbietern.
- Monetisierung: Management fokussiert auf vorhersagbare, wertorientierte Modelle (Outcome‑Pricing, Flex Credits, Headless‑Add‑ons) statt rein auf Token‑Verbrauch.
- GTM‑Momentum: Out‑of‑the‑box‑Agenten und Slack als Interface treiben schnelle Time‑to‑Value und fördern Cross‑Sell in bestehenden Kundenbasen.
🔝 Strategische Highlights
- Agenten‑Portfolio: Fertige Agenten (z. B. Casey, Piper, Hunter) erlauben Deployments in 30–45 Tagen; kombinierbar zu „Super‑Agenten“ für Commerce und Service.
- Pricing‑Innovation: Outcome‑based Pricing (Bezahlung nach Ergebnis), Flex Credits zur fungiblen Nutzung und ein Headless‑Monetarisierungslayer vereinfachen Kundenbudgetierung.
- Slack & Partnerschaften: Slackbot wird per User monetarisiert; Partnerschaft mit Anthropic (Claudeforce) bringt Modellwahl und bessere Entwickler‑Workflows.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Adoption: >10.000 Kunden nutzen mindestens ein AI‑Produkt; Mehrfach‑Adoption nimmt zu.
- Finanzkennzahlen: Agentforce & Data ARR wuchsen >200% auf $3,9 Mrd., Agentforce ARR ~$1,5 Mrd.; Agentic Work Units (AWU) +97% auf 7 Mrd.
- Produkt‑Pack: Agentforce 1 Edition bündelt Sales/Service, Slack, Tableau, Data Cloud und Flex Credits als Upsell‑Hebel.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Pricing‑Klarheit: Analysten fragten nach Konsistenz der Preismodelle; Management sieht Fortschritte, verweist aber auf weitere Iteration und Kundenfeedback.
- Slack‑Monetarisierung: Diskussion zu Slackbot vs. Direktnutzung von Modellen (Tokens); Slack‑Lizenz mit inkludierter Nutzung erschien vielen Kunden attraktiver.
- Model Choice & Margen: Frage nach Model‑Routing, Bring‑Your‑Own‑Model und Bruttomargen blieb teilweise offen; Details und Margin‑Auswirkungen sollen bei Dreamforce vertieft werden.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Deutliche Adoption und konkrete Monetarisierungsansätze machen Salesforce zu einem führenden Anbieter für enterprise‑grade Agent‑AI. Chancen: Cross‑Sell, wiederkehrende Consumption‑Erlöse und Slack‑Getriebene Nutzung. Risiken: Komplexität bei Packaging, volatile Modellkosten und noch nicht vollständig sichtbare Margenwirkung; Execution und weitere Preis‑/Margin‑Transparenz (Dreamforce) bleiben die entscheidenden Katalysatoren für Aktionäre.
Salesforce — Deutsche Bank 2026 Technology Conference
1. Question Answer
Okay. I think we're going to kick this off. We're live. Once again, I'm Brad Zelnick, software equity research here at Deutsche Bank on day 2 of our tech conference in sunny Dana Point, California. Really delighted to be kicking off this session with Salesforce on such an amazing moment in time where we are delighted to have Mike Spencer, Deputy CFO, Head of Finance. Mike, thanks so much for being here.
Yes. Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.
It's -- anybody who's paying attention to the tape, I think Salesforce has really been very prominent, and the stock has had a nice reaction to the news that came out yesterday. Why don't we maybe start there for those that might have missed it, which I don't think there are many. Can you just share the highlights from the strong results that you put up yesterday, what would you focus people on? And very importantly, how does the shape of your acceleration journey look today versus when we first started talking about this a year ago.
Yes. So I made a comment to Brad in the back of the room. I said it's much more fun to come to these when the stock is having a day like it is today. So yes, so -- let me first start with, kind of, the retrospective of last year when we made comments at Investor Day to where we are now. And I would say we've been hyper-focused on driving the execution of the business with the building blocks that we outlined last year at Investor Day. And so what you're seeing now, what we reiterated yesterday in the guidance for H2 re-acceleration as a result of, call it, the last 3 quarters of really, really hard execution, I would say, I'm trying to drive our overall strategy.
So we're super pleased with the results yesterday. I think about it, kind of, in 2 separate buckets, when you look at the results yesterday: First, within the quarter, obviously, we were very pleased to be across the -- all the external metrics. But the metric that sticks up most, at least from my vantage point, is the CRPO and by way of that, the net new AOV, the bookings performance in Q2, which exceeded all our expectations by a long shot.
So -- and that really is a good indicator of the building momentum as we look at H2, look at the guidance that we provided. And more importantly, leads us into FY '28. So the print yesterday, the guidance, the raise in the guidance that we gave, we were very intentional about organic versus inorganic within that guide, which I'm sure we'll get into, but all of that is a result of really doubling down and hitting our commitment that we made around re-acceleration in H2 on the organic business even with M&A as a strategic lever for us.
You were always very popular, but even more popular today. So I thank you even more so.
It ebbs and flows. We'll take it in a moment.
It's really good to see you and good to have you here. And the other really exciting update was this announcement yesterday and the partnerships between Salesforce and Anthropic, which I think there was already some relationship there, but now it's culminated in Claudeforce, which I have a little bit of a tough time. It doesn't yet roll off my tongue. I'm sure it will. Can you just talk about what that offers customers and how it might differ from the relationship and what customers are doing with Salesforce and Anthropic separately today?
Definitely. We -- I had someone last night ask, who brought who to the dance with the relationship. Let me first say just because from a level-setting standpoint, it's really important to understand, our investment in the venture side of our business with Anthropic is mutually exclusive from any partnership that we've got on the commercial side. I think it's really important to ground-setting structure. We -- so the way to think about Claudeforce is, think of it as it's really been an organic process of partnership with them.
For those that use Slack in the room, and if you have an opportunity to use Slackbot. Slackbot is motored by -- or the engine behind Slackbot is Anthropic. And so we've been working with them for quite a while now in a very growing level of intensity is what I would say because Slackbot adoption has, kind of, started to skyrocket quite a bit actually within the user base. And so we've been deepening our relationship over months and months and months.
And what that's led to is a lot of experimentation. We rolled out Anthropic -- or Claude, I should say, within our R&D group over the last 6 months to really experiment and see what that could do to our product road map. And so there's lots of tentacles, if you will, between. And that led ultimately to this idea of Claudeforce where we can make. And for those who use Claude, you are probably familiar with the structure, but there's a set of connectors and whatnot in there and then there's skills that you can prebuild.
And so what that's led to is a, kind of, think of it as an out-of-the-box capability for Salesforce users who decide that they want to do more with Claude and Salesforce that allow you to really plug and play whether that's connecting the assets within Salesforce, Slack, selling our CRM flagship product, et cetera, as well as out-of-the-box skills of Salesforce, think like a salesperson example of different skills that you might use when you're interacting in CRM.
And so we're super excited about it. We wouldn't be doing it if we weren't hearing it from customers. So the genesis of all of this ideation that we've been doing with Anthropic is a result of customers. We do tons and tons of CABs, or customer advisory boards, with CIOs and execs of our customers. And so this has been a, call it, a circular feedback loop that we've been generating with customers that have led to this moment.
It's really exciting stuff. It's good. I know a lot of people are focused on it. When I think of Salesforce, I think like a lot of people, we often first think about core CRM, Sales, Service, Marketing, et cetera. But the company is now one of the largest data and infrastructure software vendors out there in the market. How does the breadth of offering help set Salesforce up for success in the AI era?
So we've morphed our message over the last couple of years around Customer 360 and then we've now grounded with Informatica into the mix. We've grounded that with a dynamic called Data Foundations. Every iteration of our strategy with customers really is about creating, what we call, Layered Cake internally. In that Layered Cake, you've got, obviously, the external model companies as a foundational element, but very closely tied to that is the Data Foundations. It's what we call internally the Data Foundations.
It's made up of Informatica, our Data Cloud, or Data 360, product offering, MuleSoft, which provides connectivity and then Tableau as the analytics engine that sits on top of it. And since the acquisition of Informatica just about a year ago, it's really been, I would call it, a fueling engine to driving and helping customers mature their overall AI strategy, which also, by the way, is leading to some of the developments you're seeing with Claudeforce.
So we feel really, really confident is what I would say right now on the pieces coming together and filling out the portfolio, both from a data foundation standpoint, all the way up through the app layer or the end-use scenario, whether it's Claudeforce or our own applications in customers being -- meeting the customers where they're at. You'll hear us use that terminology a lot.
But as you think about the evolution of our stack, that's really at the core of it. It is helping customers achieve what they want and how they want to work and meeting them at that particular moment. That, by the way, cuts over to our pricing and contract structure as well.
We're going to get to that, but before we do, I think over the last year, we've seen a fair amount of organizational change, leadership change at Salesforce. And I know there's a life cycle to everything. So that shouldn't surprise anybody too much for a company of such nature and significance and heritage. But I'd just be curious, any perspective that you could share on that front. Just understanding how those changes enable the next phase of Salesforce's growth.
Yes. It's -- the changes -- I can even talk about the recent changes, there was changes within the last, call it, 6 to 8 months. It may -- I don't want to be dismissive of it. So don't think this as being dismissive of it. But every change that's happened has been intentional not for the reason of Marc trying to manage people out, but it's been intentional in the concept of folks retire, folks are ready for change. We want to tap folks to take on bigger opportunities. And so every single change that we've made has had rationale behind it that's aligned to the business.
The most recent change, the one I would probably highlight most is Miguel and Alexa, our CRO, Alexa Vignone. And Alexa is a rockstar on the sales side by far and away, probably our leading sales rep, really respected leader and so she was hungry for more and ready for more and Marc really wanted to enable her with that. And then we also want -- she still reports to Miguel.
We also want to leverage Miguel more because Miguel has turned into a force of nature inside Salesforce as well. The sales engine is really, really humming right now. And so as part of that, we wanted Miguel to help us tackle, kind of, the next big problem that we've got. And the next big problem or next big area, I should say, of opportunity is really around consumption and adoption within our customer base.
It's been a focus area for us, but now you're going to start to really see us pour the gas on the fire with that. And Miguel now has taken on professional services, customer support and our -- what we call our Builder Motion. So think FDEs in landscape speak. And so he's really over the next, you're going to see over the next 12 to 18 months, a really, really intense focus from Miguel on that particular aspect as well as leading the overall sales organization to drive that. The rest of the business on the product side is really where there's been more change.
Two big things there. Steve Fisher retired earlier this year. He's been with Salesforce for, gosh, I don't know, 30 years, Marc and him went to high school together.
Left and came back.
Left and came back. And he'd been wanting to retire for a few years and Marc kept talking him out of it and talking him out of it and he was like, "I'm just done." He's got a new grandchild at home, so he was ready to go. And we just hired Rohan Kumar to come in and take over the platform side of the business from Microsoft. I worked with Rohan at Microsoft when I was there. He's going to be a rockstar on the platform side of things. And then we moved Patrick Stokes over. For those that's been able to see Patrick Stokes in the past -- he does a lot of product demos and presentations that are big events.
The guy is amazing, knows our technology, knows our stack, upside down and left and right. And so you'll get to see him more and more as well over the coming days. So the combination of Rohan and Patrick on the app side, Rohan on the platform side, we think it's really going to be powerful in advancing the product stack.
Patrick crushes, he's great and looking forward to seeing all these new leaders in their new roles, especially out of Dreamforce in a few weeks.
By the way, you all should come to Dreamforce. If you haven't gotten a personal invite, here's your personal invite.
Awesome. I know I'll be there. Mike, just maybe on a different topic, enterprises of all shapes and sizes, various industries trying to chase this opportunity in AI. We've seen the token maxing and the spending and customers blowing through budgets prematurely. I would love to get your perspective on investor concerns that AI could potentially be crowding out other spending? Because I mean you guys are an AI company, but you're also an existing software company that's very well-deployed. How did the balance of that all play out to be either a net headwind, tailwind, or neutral for sales?
Yes. I think over the past -- I'm going to answer it 2 ways. I think over the past, I would say, 12 months, let's call it, give or take a little bit. It's been more of a neutral dynamic than it has anything else. I think what you're seeing in a lot of enterprise customer base -- enterprise customers, ourselves included, by the way, customers are re-prioritizing spend to be able to advance the experimentation of the use of the LLMs. On our side of the house, we roughly about 6 months ago, we unleashed Claude in our R&D cycle. It's part of the reason we didn't raise margin guidance on the year is because we're covering some of the token spend that we've got going. And the goal of that really was to, let's see what we could break.
Let's see what kind of advancement our R&D teams can make on accelerating the product road map. Worst-case scenario, we would pull back. Now we're actually in a zone where we are seeing a huge advancement in productivity, but now we're going into refinement mode. So we're going into the zone of prescription model choice for task at hand. And what that really means is you don't need to use the latest and greatest model for every single task you might want to do.
Of course, it's applicable in some use cases. But for the large majority, you're totally fine with the second or third generation model that might be out there. That also includes, by the way, optimization across different vendors. So we -- Internally, we've got OpenAI. We've got Cursor, we've got Claude. So we've got a bunch of different model generators. We're starting to experiment with Grok. All of them have different cost structure. And I think we're -- we are, I think, a good representation of what we see in our customer base. There's a lot of experimentation in our customer base. And customers are in the mindset right now where 2 things are happening. They're experimenting like I just described that we're doing at Salesforce.
They're also advancing or maturing the overall AI strategy, which is why we believe we're seeing -- starting to see the pickup in bookings and why we think Claudeforce or the concept of Claudeforce is really going to catch momentum because of that dynamic of Headless. Customers are starting to understand, hey, like there might not be one UI across my entire user base but they all want to work under, someone use Claude, someone actually want to use traditional app, et cetera. And so over time, we're pretty optimistic, I would say, at this point, that it's going to be a tailwind for overall business, but it's a building -- I think it's a building cadence from here. And over the last 12 to 15 months, it's been more of a neutral dynamic is what I would say.
Makes sense. Like you've demonstrated very nicely for us, the growth and profitability don't need to be mutually exclusive. As we look ahead, what are the largest levers that support further margin expansion? And how should investors think about the trade-off between AI investment and profitability?
So you'll continue to see us be super aggressive from an AI investment standpoint is the first thing I would tell you whether that's internally investing in like the R&D example I just gave, whether that's through inorganic investment, whether it's talent or tech within that bucket, but you're going to continue to see us be really, really aggressive. And that's really a statement about how fast the technology landscape is advancing, and we want to make sure that we've got bets and that we are very diversified from a portfolio standpoint to go after that.
I would say it this way, when you look at our P&L and the contract of our P&L, we've got FY '30 framework guidance out there that says Rule of 50 by FY '30. Within that construct, you've got to obviously believe top line, which I'm sure we're going to talk a little bit more about. And then when you get on the cost side of the equation, I think the way I think about it is really in 2 buckets.
Let's talk about gross margin line first. Within the gross margin line, we expect the cost around supplying of AI within our product set, which is already happening today, we expect to be able to stay relatively neutral on that. Some of that is through incremental premium monetization to cover some of that AI structure, some of it's new SKUs coming through. Some of it is just what I called out earlier, deterministic workflow, not having to pay an LLM if we don't need to, to avoid the cost and/or model selection, us getting into the zone ultimately, and you can see where the train goes of us making the selection for customers on which model they're going to actually use for whatever scenario that's coming up. And so we think we've got a good formula to help control gross margins and make sure that we stay neutral and/or better than where we are today. I'm not saying it's a straight line, you could see ebbs and flows like you saw this quarter versus last quarter, if you're comparing quarter-over-quarter.
But we feel like we've got the right building blocks in place. Then as you move down through the P&L, obviously, no secret to anyone in here. The next really big lever for us is going to be sales and marketing and how do we get more efficient on sales and marketing. Alexa and Miguel are very, very focused on it. We've made a little bit of incremental progress. If you just follow it as a percent of revenue over the past 12 months, and I would expect that trend to continue as we move forward.
The really key aspect of that is as we ramp our AI offerings being able to hit escape velocity from a sales standpoint and increase the mix of self-serve customers, whether that's what we call customers refilling the tank, whether it's consumption-based and/or self-serve customers coming through the website of those various scenarios. We do think there's a lot of opportunity to reduce the cost of sale, if you will. Cost of acquisition of customers through the sales and marketing structure moving forward.
Very helpful to ground us in all of that. I want to talk about Slack if you could. If I reflect back the time of the acquisition, I mean, the investor perception of Slack has really done a, I won't say a 360, I think 180 is more appropriate.
I think Marc said on the call yesterday, the best acquisition we've ever done. I don't know if I'm going to use those words, but like he was very bullish on it.
But it's certainly where we are today, seems very -- he was very prescient at the time. And I won't say lucky because I'll give him all the credit in the world. But it's now evolving to be a key engagement layer for Agentforce; Slackbot is really important. You gave some stats that you can remind us with just in terms of what it's done, I think, with new bundles or pricing. Maybe I've got that wrong. I'm juggling a lot of things and a lot of things that came out last night. But I would just love to hear from you as agents become more embedded in the day-to-day workflows, how important it is as the employee-facing interface? And can it be a more meaningful driver of Agentforce adoption and monetization over time.
Yes. It's -- I think if you fast forward 5 years from now, 7 years from now, Slack could be a super interesting business case in school is what I think you could end up happening. And for us internally, it's been a journey. When I first got to Salesforce almost 5 years ago in speaking with all of you, it was brutal. It was -- sentiment around Slack was as negative as it could possibly be. Fast forward to where we are today and why we leaned into it so much yesterday on the call. The momentum around Slack, as you were just highlighting, is off the charts right now, and it's happening in a couple of different ways. One, engagement is starting to open up a bit more. We're seeing a lot more customers come to the table being willing to experiment with Slack, even if they're a Teams shop.
Obviously, there's antitrust pressure on Microsoft and they're doing some breakup, especially in Europe, even stand-alone sales of Teams. So that's certainly helping. But the experimentation coming from customer base, especially in the enterprise space of willing and wanting to try Slack has really started to open a lot of doors even if they already have Teams in the ecosystem.
And then second, from an advancement standpoint, on showing the art of the possible is how we talk about it internally, but the power of AI can bring to the fold. Within the Slack ecosystem, Slackbot and Headless have really lit up Slack. So Slackbot is our AI engine within Slack. For those who don't use Slack, think of it as a sidecar. So there's an icon at the top of Slack. I could be in Slack Chatting. I click on the Slackbot icon, and then it presents a chat window right next to your Slack -- within your Slack app but right next to your chat window.
And you can do anything in Slackbot that you could do on Anthropic today. It's not Cowork. So I don't want to make it sound like Cowork. But anything you want to do from a Claude chat standpoint or OpenAI, ChatGPT standpoint, you can do in Slackbot. It's powered by Anthropic. And it is super, super powerful, whether you want to pull up conversations that maybe you can't remember which thread it was in and you're like, help me find the last conversation I had with Brad and what we were talking about or a specific topic or something as simple as a very common use case that we use it for and I use it for is something like customer preps.
I'm going to meet with XYZ customer. Tell me everything I need to know about -- I met with BNY Mellon last week. Tell me everything I need to know about BNY Mellon. What's the current conversation, what's the pipeline around them, the execs I'm meeting with, give me the full color, and it will spit back within seconds, a full download and prep document for me heading into that meeting. I don't have to go search for anything. I don't have to go crawl into CRM or elsewhere. So it really brings the power of Slack and then the ecosystem of apps around Slack into it.
That's leading to from a metric standpoint, as you highlighted, Slack being a really big engine to our bookings momentum that you saw. In Q2 alone, Slack was a huge portion of what was a record quarter for us from a net new AOV standpoint and Slack was a huge contributor. If you look at the revenue growth on Slack, which flows through our platform line in our P&L or I guess in our new construct in apps, it flows through, but in the old constructs, it flows to the platform line, the -- it's been growing strong double-digit growth, and we're probably on 5 or 6 quarters in a row now. I mean, I may not have that exactly right. So it is quickly becoming a very, very meaningful growth engine for us for a company.
Well, that gets us maybe now to the part of the matter, which -- Agentforce, a lot of excitement, a lot of anticipation around Agentforce. And it's great to see the momentum I think the stat was what? A $1.5 billion ARR. And if we combine that with Agent -- with Data 360, you're almost $4 billion in ARR as well, $3.9 billion if I have that right?
Yes.
What have been the biggest unlocks from a product and distribution standpoint that have enabled customers to accelerate production deployments and spending?
Yes. The interesting thing about Agentforce and kind of where we're at in the life cycle is that we've taken a crawl-walk-run approach to driving adoption within the customer base. What I mean by that is historically, Salesforce and the go-to-market engine has always been about ACV. Go sell the dollar to the customer and then 9 times out of 10, that AE would then move on to the next sale that you could possibly make instead of driving adoption within the customer base. About 2 years ago, we started to change that.
And in the comp plans in FY '27, our current fiscal year, we actually made it part of the comp plan in a small way, but we had to get water running through the pipes to figure out how we could change the behavior of our account executives. I want to do the exact same journey when I was at Microsoft, and we changed the behavior of the Microsoft force for Azure at the time to what you're going to see next year and with the change on Miguel that I mentioned earlier. FY '28, you're going to see, I think, a material step change in the behavior of our account executives and our account managers in driving adoption within the customer base, which really becomes the engine for Agentforce.
We are seeing an accelerating clip of customers moving from pilot into production. For customers that have already moved into production, the question, if I correlate it back to a metric that we give, which is work units.
Refilling the tanks.
Refilling the tank, but intensive work units have started to run escape velocity. Within that is customers who have moved into full production, we're seeing them refill the tank at a faster clip, 50% of bookings in the past couple of quarters have been from customers refilling the tank.
AOV on those customers is escalating quite rapidly. I think the stat is roughly 2x the growth rate of those customers versus the traditional customers. So it's proven out, even though it's still a smaller cohort of the overall customers that are in the Agentforce that have fully moved into production and are fully ramped, but you're going to see a huge focus from us going forward because that's obviously how we're going to accelerate revenue into the framework.
We're all excited for the acceleration to come. The way we've got guidance set up, I think it exists. It's modest our expectations and I'm always hoping that you overexceed them. But if we look out even further, you've got ambitious plans for an 11% compounded growth rate on revenue through fiscal '30, which takes you to $63 billion. What supports your confidence in these ambitious targets at a time when you're at significant scale in the world changing pretty fast?
Yes. Yes. Let me start with H2, and then I'll parlay that into '28 and beyond. When you look at H2, and this came up at one of our investor meetings earlier today, and it's a very fair question. When you look at our H2 re-acceleration that we're hitting in the second half of the year, we've pivoted that number every which way to Sunday. So we -- in the spirit of keeping ourselves holding ourselves accountable, we -- if you can name an exclusion, we looked at the math, excluding licenses, excluding -- fully excluding Informatica, taking obviously out Contentful and Fin, taking out even when we have headwinds in the business where you got Tableau and Mule and other things. I mean you name it, we looked at it, and we're accelerating in every single scenario. So we feel really, really confident in the numbers.
Most importantly to me within that, is that as you look out at Q4, so it will step up in Q3, step up again in Q4. And you look out to Q4, and you look at the contributors out in Q4 to the accelerating growth that we are seeing, you look at the core, so core organic is growing despite the headwinds from the license volatility we're seeing. So if you said a different way, if I invert that, if you were to look at just the core recurring organic business, excluding licenses, it's actually performing better than when you include licenses. So licenses are weighing things down right now. They're a headwind.
You then layer on Informatica. Once we lap Informatica in Q4, which would be around November 15. It is a tailwind overall growth for the company. We've been -- we're beating on Informatica both on top line and on accretion, and we've been really successful in pouring gas on the go-to-market engine on Informatica. Then you can layer on the additional acquisitions. I'll leave those out for a moment. What we're really excited about, though, is the consumptive -- and the core of your question is the consumptive nature heading into FY '28. So we're at the very, I would say, early stages of whether it's Headless, whether it's Agentforce, whether it's some of our other consumption-based tools. We do feel like we're in the very early stages of those actually becoming a meaningful tailwind to overall growth.
And so the question really, if you flip it around, you say, okay, you're at, call it, 7%, 8%, 9% today in H2. How do you get to 10%, 11%, 12% next year or the year after, et cetera. And that's really how I think about the equation. So license volatility will calm down. We'll start lapping, especially some of the comps that we've got going right now on license volatility, which will help and then you start to see consumption, the spirit of customers refilling the tank accelerate as we get more and more customers into production. And then all of a sudden, you've got the building blocks to getting us to $63 billion and beyond and some of the newer acquisitions, obviously, will help achieve above that.
Awesome. I mean I think we all love ambitious targets. And to your words, like to see accountability and holding yourselves to account at the same time, if I zoom out and I think of the Salesforce journey from 27 years ago when Marc started the company. How do we ensure that these targets -- I mean we're in the midst of this amazing paradigm shift, how do we ensure that those targets are not constraining you to be as successful and relevant for the next 27 years?
Yes. It's a totally fair question. And the parallel I'll give you on that is it's a little bit of our inorganic strategy right now. Part of our inorganic strategy is our AI investment thesis is that we've got to place a number of bets not only organically but inorganically as well to make sure that we're keeping pace on the landscape to your question. That includes talent. That includes tech. It includes established products within the customer base that are seeing adoption. Fin is probably the poster child of this right now. Fin, for a well-established service cloud is, Fin is an amazing product. They've got a very loyal customer base. If you haven't seen the demos of it, you can go on the website and look at it, the Fin technology and their agent and the capabilities of their agent is amazing for a small company as they are.
So you're going to see us. The reason I'd give you that color is you're going to see us continue to make bets across both organically, you're going to see AI infused across all of our products sets. You're going to see us continue to bring on inorganic bets. And we think we've got -- especially with Headless in the mix now, we've got the right combination and I think to fuel us into the future.
The one thing I would tell you, and we were talking a little bit about this earlier is Marc is a force of nature. And he is spending an inordinate amount of time right now, really, really studying the landscape to ensure that we don't miss something. And he's got him and his product leadership team, really, really focused on that. Marc is constantly looking at companies to learn about technologies, look at partnerships, look at targets, look how we can influence the internal product road map. It's also why I said earlier, we adopted Anthropic internally in our R&D group is because we're really focused on accelerating the product road map to make sure that we keep pace. So I would say, whereas optimistic as we can be about being able to keep pace with the market right now.
It's a fair way to frame it. I think Marc gets credit for a lot of things and being on the forefront. I mean, he was the first one to really talk about agents, frankly, in this AI journey and many more to come. I think you also -- you talked about Slack, we'll give them a lot of credit for identifying assets out there that make a lot of sense. We were familiar with Fin pre-acquisition and very impressive customer success, underlying technology, a lot of good things happening there. So maybe if we can pull on that thread a little bit. How do you see Fin expanding Salesforce's addressable market? Where do you see the greatest opportunity for cross-sell monetization across Service Cloud, Data Cloud, Agentforce, the entire portfolio?
Yes. Fin is a unique asset in that it is super complementary for Service Cloud. Think of Service Cloud as the enterprise, kind of, heavier construct of driving agentic structure and think of Fin as, kind of, the lightweight out of the box, plug in and go for the lower end of the market. I think the thing -- there's 2 things that are going to happen. First, on FIN itself, we've created a structure inside of R&D organization called Salesforce Labs and the goal of Salesforce Labs. We kept a guy by the name of Aman, blanking on Aman's last name now. Alexa, keep me honest, but he was the CEO of Regrello. He's come on. He's running Salesforce Labs for us. And he is -- the goal of that is to incubate the businesses. So within Salesforce Labs, at least right now, is going to be Fin, Qualified and Regrello. And the goal is to really incubate them and not crush them, if you will, with the way to Salesforce to make sure that we get those businesses running down the path of the M&A plan that we put together to justify the acquisition.
Then the second phase of it is going to be -- and by the way, that includes go-to-market magic that we tend to do with all acquisitions. Take that one step further. The next phase of that is really going to be taking Fin and then infusing Fin into Service Cloud structure as well. There certainly is opportunity to help Service Cloud within that, and how do we start to help Fin move up the stack.
The example I love to give folks is one of Fin's biggest customers is actually Anthropic. And so Anthropic is in a massive growth phase. And so at some point, we're going to have to figure out how to help them mature through the life cycle of becoming a larger tech company within because they're not going to want to move off of Fin. And so they're already active work stream on that, trying to figure out what that path looks like. And you can imagine a hybrid world and/or a migration path into Service Cloud or graduation path into Service Cloud full steam. So that's, kind of, how we look at it. We do think it's very, very complementary because Service Cloud in an SMB space is not super strong right now. So we do feel like, at least near term, you're going to see a lot of synergy.
Awesome. Maybe thinking, Mike, about getting all these great technologies and capabilities, delivering the last mile to the customer and specifically, as we think Agentforce, and I know it's not just Agentforce, but as adoption expands, how important is the forward deployed engineering motion and partner ecosystem and helping customers bridge the gap between AI experimentation all the way through to enterprise-wide deployment? And how far along are you in building out the FDE capacity?
So I'll share a funny story with you all. It was probably -- gosh, it was probably a year ago now, I don't even remember. And I was flying. There was a number of us flying with Marc, and Marc has obviously got his own plane. So we're flying with Marc and we, for 4 hours on the plane with Marc flying from -- I think we were going to New York, San Francisco or something like that. It sounds like it's fun, but it's got into perks, but it could be challenging. But the reason I share that story is because he's got 2 TVs on his plane. And he literally on full steam or full blast on both TVs for 4 hours had Palantir, Alex Karp, preaching about FDEs on stage of various -- across various different presentations that he did for 4 straight hours.
And I've never gotten more education in such a compacted amount of time on FDEs. And I share that because that's a little bit of a lens into Marc's mindset right now on how critical and important driving customer adoption is especially in a world where customers need the help, frankly, that's the feedback we get constantly from customers is there just so much tech that they're trying to swallow and digest right now that they need help. They don't know where to start. They don't know where to go, et cetera. We're going through it, by the way, with our own adoption of Claude and OpenAI internally where we're trying to roll out Claude and like I have Claude Cowork, most of my organization does not have it yet. But even then, I don't -- would I consider myself an expert prompter? No. Would I consider the different use cases? No. So there's a lot of education that needs to occur. And for us, and why we made the change in Miguel, really getting embedded with the customers.
Think of it almost as, kind of, the old SI consulting model, where you actually put a team in the customer and you're sitting side-by-side with the customer, helping them solve the problems get it launched, et cetera and handhold them through the process. And so you're going to see right now internally, we've actually got a bunch of different flavors of -- we call it builders. So FDEs, builders, it's a synonymous term. But we've got a number of different flavors. We've got solution engineers. We actually have the formal term of FDEs. We've got -- we've got our professional services organization, then we actually have developers inside our customer success organization. So we actually have flavors of different FDEs across the ecosystem, and we're actually working really hard to consolidate them and get them into one motion and how we invest in customers.
Now we're actually starting to look at it more as this investment -- an investment as part of larger contracts that customers are doing. So you're going to see us really contemplate trade-offs of, hey, can we put a few more FDE resources on the customer in exchange for a bigger Salesforce commit or a customer making a bigger commitment to Salesforce, I should say, over time because the payoff of accelerating adoption and consumption is going to far outweigh us trying to monetize a few people for a couple of hundred thousand dollars near term.
Awesome. Switching to a different topic. You touched on this a little bit earlier, but I want to dig deeper just into the way that customers buy and pay Salesforce. How should investors think about the evolution from subscription paid in advance to consumption, maybe AWUs, agentic work units, that you talked about -- and ultimately, what Fin was doing, outcome-based pricing. Like how do we think about that continuum? And what needs to happen for those models become material contributors to the overall Salesforce.
So as a finance guy and owning FP&A, I've got product finance under me. I can tell you, it is an anxiety filled architecture right now of different pricing structures and contract frameworks. We've been very, as most of you know, very intentional about experimentation with customers. A lot of that is fed from our different advisory boards that we operate with customers and experimenting on what works well and what doesn't as customers, kind of, go on their own journey of how they want to consume AI. For us, I think about it in 2 buckets. There is the actual pricing structure and then there's the contract structure.
On the contract structure side of the equation, we have a couple of flavors happening right now. We've got our traditional way where customers will make a commitment, they'll pay us annually, et cetera, works well.
The second one is what we call AELAs. You heard Miguel talk about that last year, I think at Investor Day. Think of that as the All-You-Can-Eat contract for customers where they sign on, they're like, hey, I want Sales Cloud, Slack, et cetera, et cetera. Great. We'll let you, kind of, go over to an all-you-can-eat buffet. The latest one that we've actually been trialing and you're going to see us start to lean into it a bit more is what we call Salesforce Commit. Salesforce Commit is more of the traditional hyperscaler model where customers can say, "Hey, I'm going to spend $10 million over 3 years." And then they can consume it as they go, they can buy seats. They can buy flex credits, et cetera. They can be consumption, it can be seat-based.
But it's customers getting a discount for the overall spend, but not necessarily having to have it all mapped out on day 1. It's very much how the hyperscalers operate, so customers are very accustomed to it, but it's a new muscle for Salesforce.
Then I switch to the pricing side of things. There's a few things in motion. We have traditional seat-based pricing. We've got consumption-based pricing, and you're going to hear that more in the form of flex credits is the way we'll talk about it. And then we are actually experimenting right now with outcome-based pricing. Fin is outcome-based pricing. And so you're going to see us really start to experiment with that more. The key with outcome-based pricing, which many of you are probably familiar with, is you've got to be very objective about the measurements that are driving the outcomes. And that always tends to be the challenge. When you're a smaller start-up like Fin, it's easier to manage. When you get into the broader ecosystem, outcome-based pricing gets a lot more complex.
The way if I compare and contrast, if you look at Sierra. Sierra does outcome-based pricing today, but they actually only give you a couple of different flavors of the outcomes that you can price your contract around. That's how they keep it contained. So you can see us -- you'll see some experimentation around that as we look to expand it. On the consumption side of things, we are moving quickly towards trying to figure out and provide consumption-based structure across a lot of our portfolio, at least where applicable outside of the seats. For Claudeforce that we just launched, it's probably going to be more premium mix. You can get it as part of Agentforce 1 edition or that you can buy an add-on. But you could also buy a full consumption if you want it.
We think it's going to be more limited adoption on a full consumption basis, but you can buy it that way. Over time, most of the revenue today is still ratable. When I say most, 95-plus percent is still ratable today. I think to being in a zone where consumption is a more material portion of overall revenue mix, I think you're looking at probably 3 to 5 years still from now. I don't really anticipate it changing materially in the near term. You'll see more and more consumption come into the fold. But to be an overall material mix of our revenue long term, I think it's probably 3 to 5 years away.
Mike, this has been awesome. It's just about the right time to stop, but -- to end it here. But before I do, in closing, what should we be most excited about heading into Dreamforce?
Yes. I think there's -- I'll speak from a personal standpoint. I think there's a few things. I think you're going to see a lot of really, really great technology at Dreamforce, right? It happens to be the case every year, but I feel like this year, we're, kind of, at an inflection point, especially with Headless coming into the fold. You're going to see some things that I personally would say it will probably blow your mind a little bit on how AI is being infused into the product set. Whether that's Slackbot and the capabilities on Slackbot, whether it's Headless, whether it's some of our newer acquisitions, but we've got a lot of bets that we're really, really excited about, and you're going to see that coming to the fold.
The other thing that I think might be just as powerful is we are being very intentional this year at Dreamforce on bringing in external voices. Marc touched on it on the call yesterday. Dario is going to be there. Sam Altman is going to be there. Jensen is going to be there plus a number of broader tech landscape names, bigger names that you're going to be familiar with.
And part of the goal there is to really get the ecosystem around us speaking just as much as you hear from us, us getting on stage and just evangelizing like how strong we think we're in from a position standpoint, we think can be echoed just as loudly and maybe be more powerful if it's coming from the external landscape. So we're really excited about it.
Again, if you guys -- if you're not making plans or you want to come, just reach out, and we're happy to give you guys a pass and you can come to our Investor Day as well.
If there are hotel rooms left in San Francisco.
I don't -- I can't speak to that. I'll let Anna Le on our team speak to that, but that's out of my pay grade.
Well, listen, again, always great to see you. Thanks so much for being here.
Thanks for having me. Yes, for sure. All right.
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Salesforce — Deutsche Bank 2026 Technology Conference
Salesforce: Re‑Acceleration läuft — starke Q2‑Buchungen, neue Claudeforce‑Partnerschaft und Fokus auf Adoption/Consumption.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Management betont Re‑Acceleration: starke Q2‑Buchungen (Net New AOV) und CRPO (Contracted Remaining Performance Obligations) als Signal für Momentum; Claudeforce mit Anthropic als Integrations‑Hebel; Fokus auf Data Foundations (Informatica, Data Cloud, MuleSoft, Tableau) und auf Adoption/Consumption als mittelfristigen Wachstumsdriver.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Claudeforce: Out‑of‑the‑box-Integration von Anthropic‑Modellen in Salesforce/Slack mit Connectors und vorgefertigten Skills für produktive Agenten‑Workflows.
- Daten‑Stack: Data Foundations (Informatica + Data Cloud + MuleSoft + Tableau) als Kern, um Kunden‑AI‑Strategien zu beschleunigen und Monetarisierung zu stärken.
- GTM & Organisation: Vertriebsumbau (Miguel, Alexa) zielt auf Adoption/Consumption; mehr Fokus auf Forward Deployed Engineers (FDE) / Professional Services zur Produktionsreife von KI‑Projekten.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Produkt: Claudeforce konkretisiert die Anthropic‑Zusammenarbeit: Connectoren, Skills und Slackbot‑Integration als Schnellstart für Kunden.
- Monetarisierung: Management will KI‑Kosten durch Premium‑SKUs, Modellwahl und partielle Monetarisierung neutral halten; vollumfängliche Margenwirkung soll kontrollierbar sein.
- Zeithorizont: Konsumtionsbasierte Umsätze werden sichtbar wachsen, bleiben aber voraussichtlich erst in 3–5 Jahren materialer Teil des Umsatzmixes; Informatica‑Laufzeit wird in Q4 (um 15. Nov.) positiv durchschlagen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- AI‑Crowding: Frage, ob KI‑Ausgaben andere Softwarekäufe verdrängen; Antwort: kurzfristig neutral, mittelfristig tailwind durch Refill/Consumption.
- Margenhebel: Nachfrage nach Treibern für Margenausweitung; Fokus auf Bruttomarge via Produkt‑Monetarisierung und Effizienz in Sales & Marketing (Rule of 50 bis FY'30).
- Slack‑Rolle: Slack/Slackbot als Engagement‑Layer treibt Buchungen; Slack trägt wesentlich zur Net‑New‑AOV‑Performance bei.
- Adoption: Agentforce‑Produktion, „refilling the tank“ und FDE‑Skalierung sind kritische KPIs; Management plant stärkere Kompensation und Ressourcen für Adoption.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Salesforce positioniert sich offensiv für die AI‑Ära: Claudeforce und der erweiterte Daten‑Stack erhöhen TAM und Monetarisierungspfade. Kurzfristig drücken Investitionen in KI auf Margen, langfristig sollen Preismodelle, Modellwahl und effizientere Sales‑Motion das Wachstum profitabel gestalten. Wichtige Kennzahlen für Anleger: Agentforce‑Produktion, Refill‑Rates, Slack‑Engagement und FDE‑Ramp.
Salesforce — Q2 2027 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Salesforce Second Quarter Fiscal 2027 Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mark Murphy, Executive Vice President of Global Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today on the fiscal 2027 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. Our press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our website. Joining me on the call today is Marc Benioff, Chair CEO and Co-Founder; and Robin Washington, Chief Operating and Financial Officer. We also have Patrick Stokes, President, Applications and Marketing; and Miguel Milano, President and Chief Operating Officer, joining us for the Q&A portion of the call.
Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements.
As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results and guidance can be found in our earnings materials and press release.
Before turning to our prepared remarks, Marc and Dario just announced Claudeforce a few minutes ago live on CNBC, let's roll the clip.
This is really the best of both worlds. This is the #1 AI in the world, anthropic and the #1 CRM, Salesforce, are coming together for the first time in an incredibly powerful way to build a new product called Claudeforce. It's really a first in the industry, Jim. We've never seen anything like it. It's completely exciting. I think that this is the way all enterprise systems are going to run in the future.
We found that this combination product that we built together is the most useful thing in accelerating it. Within Anthropic for a long time, we've been accelerating the research teams within Claude. But this is the first time that we've really been able to incredibly accelerate our go-to-market efforts within Claude. And we want that for all the other enterprises. And we want to -- me and Marc, I want to bring it together to everyone. We've already worked with Salesforce in a number of ways. We're big users of Salesforce. Salesforce is big users of Claude code, of Cowork of other tools. We put products like Claude Tag in Slack already, which is a part of Salesforce. And now this combination is a way to gain something that's it's 1 plus 1 equals 3, something that's bigger than the sum of its parts. My Chief Commercial Officer was just demoing this for me with some of the internal stuff we do within Anthropic just half an hour ago, where he asked what are the biggest accounts that Anthropic is trying to close now. Like give me a list of the biggest accounts. Talk me through the risks of each one. All the data, all the information comes from being managed in Salesforce. But the conversation, the interaction, that comes through Claude. And so you can see how these 2 things can be more than the sum of their parts.
Why this is exciting as it's a perfect complement. Anthropic builds this amazing model. And now the model has this incredible user interface, Cowork. And when you take Cowork and then you're able to put it right on top of Salesforce, it's able to bring the data, the applications, the semantics, the agents themselves and build complete applications, a total user interface to let you get all the value out of Salesforce that's been trapped. So customers have put hundreds of billions of dollars into Salesforce. There is a huge amount of value that can be unleashed through this combination.
And with that, let me hand the call to Marc.
Well, thanks so much. I'm really excited to have the call. And it was great to be on CNBC with Dario announcing Claudeforce. We're going to get into that in more details as well.
And before I get into all of that, I really want to start here at the beginning and talk about the Saaspocalypse. I think you can see from the results, net new AOV growth, it's the strongest in 4 years. Skeptics really said that seats would decline. And also that Agentforce sales and service in Slack, all seats grew year-over-year. Skeptics said, customers would leave, but attrition was near its lowest level ever. Skeptics said pricing power would erode and A1E and A4X bookings more than doubled quarter-over-quarter. And contract linked terms improved across all segments and new business and renewals. An agent agentic use, well, use of the platform, it surged 6x, sixfold via model context protocoled calls and CLA calls. Apps are not [ dime ]. In fact, they're growing. And 9 of the 10 AI companies, like you just heard from Anthropic that's standardized on Salesforce, use Salesforce and Slack. They spend up -- their spend is up 435% year-over-year. Frontier models depend on CRM, they make sure that it works, that it all comes together, they'd not replace them.
Let's now -- let me start from the beginning of my script and actually read my prepared remarks for you, so you can really understand our vision for the future of where Salesforce is now, where we're going, and we cannot wait to get all of you to Dreamforce because we have some incredible things to show you.
Look, we're here in Salesforce Tower in San Francisco. I want to welcome all of you, and I'm thrilled to share the tremendous progress we've made and momentum we're seeing across the business. As everyone can see, we just had 1 of the best quarters ever, and we outperformed on all of our key metrics. And as I just went through in all these key metrics in these key areas, this nonsense of this SaaSpocalypse, I think it's time for it to stop. That's why I'm so excited about Claudeforce as well. It really shows how we're bringing together the world's #1 AI and the #1 CRM. It's really the best of both worlds. We're combining Claude's extraordinary intelligence and reasoning with Salesforce's, trusted data and applications and workflows and business rules and governance. And while Claudeforce -- Claude might have been, for example, for developers, now it's also for knowledge workers. And when you do that, you get something in the world has never seen. This is a dynamic, deeply personalized interface that thinks reasons and act. It's a truly game-changing experience for our customers.
And I'm going to get into the highlights from the quarter. But before I do, I want to just tell you 1 quick story. And I'm going to get into more details on this. I just spent 2 months in Europe. And I just had an exhaustive schedule. I won't go through all the detail, but I've never met with more customers in my life. And I was with 1 of our very largest, probably our largest customer in Switzerland, and I was sitting there with them, and we went through and they spent maybe, I don't know, the they spent more than $1 billion for sure, with Salesforce. They spend about $100 million a year with us. And I'm talking with them, and it's a great meeting, it's 3 hours and then at the end, we're like, no, I want to show you this thing. We haven't shown it to anybody yet and we'll show them Claudeforce, because the head of all of our operating units have been using Claudeforce to run their businesses inside Salesforce this quarter. It's 1 of the reasons why we're getting such great performance. And all of a sudden, literally, I could see the customer's mouth just dropped open because it was astonishing. They were seeing that we were able to reveal this value that had been trapped in their systems, okay, right into this dynamic user interface. And they weren't having to hire all these FTEs and all this stuff to get it going, it building these apps on the fly for them using the foundation that they had spent 2 decades building with Salesforce.
Now I want to get back to the quarter. We had record revenue and EPS, strong margin performance. CRP accelerated. It was up about 14%. Look, we generated $1.1 billion in free cash flow, that was up 81% year-over-year. I'm going to come back to that in just 1 second. And our AI business, just incredible momentum. Agentforce ARR, it hit $1.5 billion. Our ARR for AI and data is about to cross $4 billion, really helps, I guess, that we have 15,000 peer account executives, Miguel. And the number of accounts with agents in production grew 70% over last quarter. We had great wins with Deutsche Telekom. I met with them when I was in Europe. FIFA, met them. NTT Data, I have met with them. Cisco, all expanding their AI investment with us. Great companies, by the way, great visions for the world and really exciting executives leading their companies who have tremendous vision for what they're going to do with their company using this new technology. And we also completed a multibillion dollar agreement contract expansion with the U.S. Army. The Army Human Resource Command expects to drive up to 55 million Agentforce conversations every single month, amazing. The Secretary of the Army took me aside and said, he finished recruiting 4 months early because he was able to use not only the power of all of these human agents, but AI agents as well, that was the Army being all they could be. And I'll tell you, we're expanding in the markets and seeing an incredible success. We launched Agentforce IT service in November, and it already has more than 450 customers, including NYU Langone Hospitals at McAfee, conversions from ServiceNow. I think that's very exciting that we can see that more companies coming into our platform. And as they come into our platform where we expand it to be not just sales, not just service, not just marketing, not just commerce, not just analytics but also IT service and other critical functionality, that all of that can be revealed and now rendered through the Agentforce user interface. The more that's in the platform, the more Claudeforce is going to be able to deliver for it.
Now Agentforce Life Sciences is more than 140 customers, including all top 5 pharmaceutical companies, and Agentforce ops is helping companies like Kellogg's and Dell turn manual back-office work and supply chains into agentic workflows. That's the Regrello platform we bought now more than a year ago, it has the ability to deliver and render for a company, red, yellow, green on their supply chain every single day. For Dell, they have 20,000 suppliers. And why that's important is we see supply chain as 1 of the very first applications. So many companies are actually revising for AI because it gives them the ability to actually look into something and do something with an area that really has not moved forward for in decades. With this strong performance and momentum and the strategic acquisitions, especially Contentful and Fin, we're expecting to close in the coming weeks, and we're raising our fiscal year '27 revenue guidance by about $300 million in constant currency.
Now what's driving all this? Well, it's a fundamental shift in the software industry. AI is unlocking value, as I said, across every part of our platform. AI is able to look into the platform and say, "Hey, I can see this application construct. I can see this user model. I could see the share model. I can put all of this together and deliver value in a totally new way." I've never seen a moment like this in my life, but for our customers, the question isn't whether AI is transformative, it's actually how they get there. And I want to talk to customers every single day. That's why I was in Europe. Most of them have not started their AI transformations yet. If you talk to most CEOs they may say they have a project or they have a failed experiment or they were told to build a model, but it didn't work out for them. That is not AI transformation. We're going to see AI transformation, and you're really going to see AI transformation when you start using Claudeforce. And the reason why I feel so strongly about that is I've seen it here at Salesforce. For our operating unit leaders when we gave them Claudeforce, they came back to us and said, "I built this app. I did that. I did this other thing." That was so exciting. They built their businesses on not just a few core systems. They're not going to just rip out how their company just runs to get to they want intelligence delivered inside the software. They're already using to run their business. And that's what Salesforce, that's what Claudeforce is going to do.
So I showed them Claudeforce. I showed them reasoning across their Salesforce data and workflows. I can show it right inside Cowork. I also show it right inside Slack, 1 click to deploy and their path to AI transformation just opens up in front of them. It's pretty incredible. It's a great experience as a software executive to see the customers' reaction. And this is what we're building with our new enterprise harness.
So this new enterprise harness AI for us, you're going to hear a lot about this at Dreamforce. First, you're going to hear a lot about our data layer. You're going to hear a lot about how we've invested in the federation and integration and harmonization of data, you know that's why we bought MuleSoft. It's why we bought Informatica. It's why we built Data 360. You're going to hear about our application layer, of course, sales, service, marketing, commerce, analytics, as I just said, supply chain or ITSM, all the different components, field service, all the application lever in that application layer, then the agentic layer on top of that. And then finally, the interface layer. These 4 layers, data, apps and semantics, agents and interface. When it's turned on together, that is when you start to see the true enterprise transformation. And I'm confident that when you come to Dreamforce, for your own company since so many of them are already on Salesforce, you're going to see how you are going to be able to transform as well.
Now let me show you what this looks like for AthenaHealth. Every time someone needed a case summary or opportunity insight, they had to ask IT to run a report. So they use Data 360 to bring together all the product usage and account data from across their systems to create a single source of truth. Then with AI force, this new user interface harness that sits on top of our core systems, they've connected all of it to their AI, complete with the context and the permissions that already lived in Salesforce. Now employees across every level can get instant answers from real Salesforce data -- from real Salesforce metadata and all of the sharing models and security models and all of this, all of this is done with 0 data retention. That means no data goes to any model. It all stays in your company. We started engineering that in 2023. We have been perfecting over the last 3 years and we audit it and we are sure that, that data is staying with you without ever opening a browser, the usage and the value they're getting with Salesforce is going way up.
This is the future of enterprise software. And I'll tell you what it's not. This is not the SaaSpocalypse paces. This is not the SaaSpocalypse. As I said earlier, we've been hearing about this for the last 2 quarters, these dire predictions about the end of software and how but the models need everything. But none of them have come true for us, and I don't think -- I don't even understand how they could possibly come true.
Look, models, you have to remember, models are probabilistic systems. They're nondeterministic systems. But our system, those 4 layers that we talked about with data and apps and semantics and agents, those are deterministic systems. But when you put those 2 things together, that's a level of value we've never seen before. We've been told our growth would slow, that net new AOV growth would not continue to grow. And yet it's the strongest it's ever been in 4 years and significantly outpacing AOV growth. And by the way, did you know that Salesforce, Salesforce has higher free cash flow, higher free cash flow than Costco, Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Ford, Disney, Pepsi, oh, we also have higher revenue growth rates than Costco, Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Ford, Disney, Pepsi. By the way, all of them are great Salesforce customers, too. I love all those companies and all those CEOs, but we have higher free cash flow and higher growth rates in them. I just think it's important for speaking directly to the analysts who cover us to actually look and compare our business metrics against those others so you can really see what we do and how we're doing. Our seats were supposed to decline. Instead, Agentforce sales, services Slack, all saw year-over-year growth, and we were told customers would abandon us, but attrition is near its lowest level ever. I know that you know that because you're calling all of our customers asking them. So we're told customers would pay less for our products, but what Miguel will about to tell you is they're upgrading, an A1E and A4X bookings, they more than doubled quarter-over-quarter. We're told contract links would shrink. Well, they improved across all segments, and we're told agents accessing our system would kill apps. Well, actually, usage is exploding, agentic use of our apps through model context protocol calls and CLI calls also surged sixfold, 6x. And we're told the frontier models would eliminate the need for CRM. Instead, they depend on it, and we're showing how 1 plus 1 can equal 3. Nine out of the top 10 AI companies in the world use Salesforce and Slack. You know that. You're talking to them, companies like Anthropic, for example. Well, these companies, these 9 out of 10 top 10 AI companies, they've increased their spend with us by 435% year-over-year. Look at that great company Replit, you saw them in the preshow. It's an amazing company. Their sales team lives here in Slack with Salesforce as their source of truth, they've tripled the number of Agentforce sales seats. They're building custom apps that connect directly to Salesforce data and workflows. It all works together. By the way, Replit is a great tool on Salesforce.
As you can see, AI isn't raised replacing Salesforce. It's unlocking more value across all 4 layers of our platform. again, across the data layer, the apps layer and the semantic layer, the agent layer and the interfaces. Now we all know that if your data is not right, your AI is not right. I've seen that over and over again in customers where all of a sudden, we'll go in and try to show them some magic and all of a sudden, we'll go, "Well, are you really paying attention to your AI, because your data quality doesn't seem to be exactly right." Well, all that data inside Salesforce now provides hundreds of petabytes of critical context so agents can actually understand your business. We're doing more to help customers clean up their data to make sure that it's well harmonized to make sure that it's -- they have the right level of data cleansing, building the right data warehouses, then our apps, well, they can be more valuable than they've ever been because now they don't just run your business, they're running all of your agents as well. Think about it. There's more data insight Salesforce than any human can comprehend. A human works 1 record at a time, an agent works around the cross -- the clock. It sees everything, not 1 thing. It reads across millions of records to find the perfect opportunity, forecast the quarter and close cases.
We know we've been using these models now for almost a decade. For a decade ago, I would sit in my staff meeting, and I would ask "Einstein, tell me how is the forecast going to turn out." And in many cases, it do more than our folks. Why? Because it's able to see everything.
So here's another great example, Uber for Business. They've got 30 onboarding specialists and a mountain of inbound leads nobody was ever going to reach, their rules, their workflows, every deal that's ever gone through them. They've used Salesforce since the start of Uber, and all of that lived inside Salesforce. Now this is how they sell. So they paint -- just pointed Agentforce at the pile, got to work, looked at their whole history of their whole company, all the institutional memory everything that's inside Uber, now 6 weeks to launch within 2 weeks, 60% more leads and converting. This is that power. We're introducing hundreds of packaged agents that understand your business and industry right out of the box, so they can start delivering value within days, not months. And now with AI force, we're bringing all that to any interface, this is the magic moment. People don't have to come to Salesforce to get work done, Salesforce comes to them. And Claude and Slack and ChatGPT and Teams, wherever they want to work, and it's a shift from software as the interface to software, powering every interface.
Of course, this is already happening in Slack, which had a phenomenal quarter. It's the best acquisition we ever made regardless of all the financial analyst reports that I read about 6 years ago. When we bought it, we won't go through the details, it's water that's now all under the bridge. But let me just say this. When you look at Slack today, it is where work happens. And it's where these AI lives and work and could do things. And not only is it where human work happens, now it's where you can build together to with Slack Codes. AI isn't trapped in a single-player chat window. It's a teammate that works across all your people, finding the right agent, the right action, all the flow work, fueled by all the enterprise context that lives in Salesforce, the conversational context in Slack. Companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, Lovable, Replit on and on and on. I think there's more than 1 million companies on Slack now, are all building their agentic products directly into Slack because Slack is where their customers want them. And Slack bot is our fastest adopted AI product ever. Five months after launch, it's got 1 million active users, up 150% quarter-over-quarter. If you don't have Slack bot turned on in your Slack instance and you're not using it every day, you are really missing out. It has the ability to read across all of your Slack data, and you were going to have insights in your business, you just were not able to have before. It just makes you a better executive.
Robin Hood is a great example of what's happening. Robin Hood needed AI adoption across its whole workforce, not just engineers. So what Vlad did was he put AI inside Slack, the place where the entire business comes together and connects to Salesforce. Google, Okta and other systems. And now any employee can use Slack bot to surface past decisions and conversations, solve problems without engineering support and Slack isn't just the best place to work with AI. It's also the best place to build with AI. We just introduced Slack Code, a shared space for teams of agents and humans to build together right where they already work. So when you combine Slack Code with Slack bot, it becomes an incredibly powerful multiplayer IDE.
Okay. Well, as you can see, across our whole platform, we're redefining how our customers build, deploy and scale AI, and we have a very special guest today on our earnings call, and our friend, David Friedberg is here. He's got this great next-generation bioengineering company, Ohalo. Welcome, David. Fantastic. Welcome to our earnings call. Great to have you.
Thanks for having me, Marc.
And they're changing how we feed the planet with a breeding technology that boost crop yields by 50%, maybe 100%. [indiscernible] sent me a can of seeds. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about what I got or not, but it was pretty awesome. And I'll tell you, David had chosen a CRM product when he first started Ohalo and -- how does it pronounce? Oholo? Ohalo? Mahalo?
Ohalo. I should ask you. It sounds like a Hawaiian word.
It sounds like it, but it's not. It's based on an important actually part of bioengineering history, right?
Yes. Well, there was an agricultural find in the Sea of Galilee where they found this whole pot of seeds 20,000 years. So kind of rewrote what we thought about the history of agriculture and plant breeding. So we named it after that little village.
Fantastic. Well, yes, you're right. It sounds like a Hawaiian word but it's not. And I know that you started with another CRM product, we won't talk about which -- what it is and -- but I remember when you called me and you said, well, maybe I'll try to vibe code this whole thing, whatever. And then a few months later, it turns out your...
Yes, we did a little vibe coding. I did a vibe code to make a CRM product over a weekend. And you quickly realize just how much it takes to do maintenance, to do accounts, to do security, there's just much more to it. And we realized pretty quickly, there are certain, I would say, software applications that are maybe verticalized where you have to build custom workloads that make sense for your particular business, but then there's platform software. And platform software, we realize pretty quickly is really what we need to build our entire company around. And Salesforce is what we kind of decided to go with on CRM, we're already on Slack. We're not going to go vibe code Slack, we're not going to vibe code CRM. But then we build custom workflows, custom interfaces, custom prospecting tools that my sales teams. I've got agents that are out scanning public county databases, trying to find where farmers are planting what crops, what their names are, what their contact info is. I've got agents doing all sorts of prospecting, that interface gives my sales team leads that integrates with Salesforce. They can then go run the standard workflows that are a little bit more standardized across verticals, and we could build all of our custom workflows in parallel and in concert with the Salesforce tool.
Well, it's been very exciting. And I'll tell you, I'm thrilled to have you with now a large Salesforce customer and...
One of your smallest, but yes.
Well, I would say large in terms of presence, in terms of -- everybody knows you now Dave because your podcast is so popular. The #1 podcast in the world is what I heard.
In San Francisco. For now. That's right.
But what I want to know is this, so when you do think about the future and you think about your company and bringing the best of AI and the best of CRM together, how do you plan to do that?
Again, I think it goes back to this point about where do we create value? I'm not going to create value as a business by doing something that everyone else does. If everyone else is using Microsoft Excel, I'm not going to go build Microsoft Excel. If everyone else is using an ERP tool, we integrate with NetSuite, and I know that you guys have an integration with NetSuite. We're not going to go build an ERP tool. And we're not going to go build Slack. We're not going to build communications and messaging. We're not going to build CRM. We're going to build custom interfaces for doing plant breeding. We're going to build custom interfaces for prospecting customers. We're going to build custom interfaces for selecting the right product for a farmer based on my satellite and radar imagery that shows me what that farmers field is going to look like next season, making an estimation and then making the right product selections for him. So the interface to do that for my sales team for my customers, that's where we add value. And then the actual following up with the customer, connecting with the customer record making that transaction record, storing it. That needs to be done safely, securely, it needs to be done with the right account settings, the right access. That's what we're not going to go build. And that's really where the partnership works.
Now when we make a selection, it has to be a selection with standard platforms that we can work with that integrate that have the integration capabilities that have the ability to service and support. I'll give you another example. Just internally, we use Slack, right? That's our primary communication messaging tool. And in Slack, we've got an Ask HR channel now. And so we basically use Claude to set up an Ask HR channel that anyone in my company can ask the HR questions that they would normally spend time calling up the HR people saying, "Hey, I got this question, I got this question." Ask HR has access to all of our internal HR documents, and it knows who you are, whether or not it can access your personal information. It knows standard benefits policies, and I can just answer all your questions for you through Ask HR. I don't need to go build a communications tool to do that. I can leverage Slack and I can leverage Claude to deliver that internally. It's another good example of kind of the sort of thing where we can build something custom using our internal benefits, our internal HR policies, but then we can leverage the platforms and Claude to deliver that.
Okay. Now because I'm a competitive person, I have to ask you this last question, which is kind of where I started. This all started because we were just talking on the phone about something else, we're personal friends. And all of a sudden, you said to me, yes, I'm using the CRM product. And I'm turning it off completely. I'm not going to use this product anymore. And then I was like, well, why? So can you just tell us the story, you had already invested in the CRM platform. This is 1 of our competitors. And then -- but you decided not now, you don't have to tell us who it was, but what are some of the features and functions that you saw in Salesforce that then gave you this ability to achieve all this productivity that you so badly desired?
It wasn't sold as great a sales guy as you are. I wasn't sold installed in our first conversation. I was still pretty reticent. I'm like, Marc wants me to do this. I'm going to do it for Marc. But I'm not sure, okay? This is what I told my team. And there's a guy, a great guy named Ben. Ben worked at my shop and Ben used Claude. He used Cursor, and he spoke to your Salesforce guys, stood it up. And what took us months of going back and forth trying to customize this other CRM tool and build the application and workflows around it that we needed. We were like pulling our hair out we're like, let's just build it all from scratch, and that's when you and I talked. So Ben used Claude and Cursor, got into Salesforce and was able to get everything stood up in under a month. And so I wasn't sold until we did it. And then I was like, okay, I'll give them our credit at this point. And maybe we should send them a check and pay for the product. But I would say that was the...
By way that a huge...
You're a big marketing guy, but the product and the capabilities...
Thank you, David. Appreciate that.
That sold itself actually. Like when we got in there and Ben was able to do this in under a month, and he told me he did the whole thing in under a month. Just Ben. And he ran the whole thing.
And I think that has been the huge shock for us that these new next-gen tools, the Cursors, the Replits, the Claudes of the world, make our product better that all of a sudden, it can customize the data, the metadata, set up the preferences, do the administration, do things that maybe you needed a bunch of service folks to kind of do. Now all of a sudden you're getting going in a month, maybe it might have taken a view before, 6 months to a year, all of a sudden now you're fully automated and your ability to add new functionality and do new things. This has provided this kind of very strong platform. And as I said, it's a terministic platform. And while Cursor is more nondeterministic and probabilistic on the front end, it's helping you to administer it, maybe Bill starting to build new screens for you, analytics, but nothing is going to be better than having this solid foundation.
I was probably early on a SaaSpocalypse train, as you know, because I know you listen to my show. And I always said, like, I think SaaS was this temporary phenomenon between the founding of the Internet and the start of AI. But I think that it's a little more nuanced than that. It's probably this verticalized SaaS where you're trying to standardize a vertical on a bunch of workflows, which actually destroys value in that vertical because everyone is now doing the same thing in the same way. So no one can differentiate in that vertical. We've actually dumped all our vertical software -- verticalized software. We make all of our verticalized SaaS in-house. But the horizontal, the platform, Salesforce, standardizing on Slack. This is really where I think we've realized that's not -- that's actually going to get bolstered and it's more valuable with all the other capabilities we can now build around it. So I'm definitely sold in that sense. I don't think -- I think there's still a SaaSpocalypse with a lower case S rather than the upper case S for verticalized tools, where I think AI really allows you to rebuild something that's unique which creates value for your business in a vertical.
Rebuild it on Salesforce.
Yes. That's right.
Great. Thanks so much David for being with us. We really appreciate you coming in today.
All right. We're so thrilled to have David here, and we're so grateful to have him now as our new customer. And I just thought everyone would love to hear that story because I think as everybody has heard David has been wondering how will he use enterprise software in this new company, where does he achieve that productivity. And I've just never been more excited about our future. The scale of the opportunity in front of us is extraordinary. You're going to see it at Dreamforce. Not only are we going to have great entertainment, probably the better, best entertainment we've ever had. So we can't wait announce that. But also we've got probably the best products we've ever had. And you're going to see it in just a couple of weeks, it's going to be a huge accelerator for Salesforce for all of our customers. We're going to bring 50,000 people here to San Francisco and show them some unbelievable capabilities. And we're going to show you some of the most exciting transformative technology we've ever built. It's the future of enterprise software. And I'll tell you, we're deploying it not just for the Army or for the IRS or for all the major U.S. agencies, all these incredible new customers that Miguel has signed up from Uber to Deutsche Telekom, FIFA you're going to see not only meet all of them, but you're going to see an incredible lineup of speakers at Dreamforce. And yes, Dario is going to come in there. It's going to be in my keynote. You're also going to see Sam there. Jensen is going to be there. Actually, all the major AI leaders is going to be there. David is coming, if he's bringing all his friends. And you're going to see how great companies like Amazon, NVIDIA, F1, L'Oreal are bringing humans, agents, platforms together to connect with customers in new ways that were never possible before. We're looking forward to seeing you all there. And before that, we've got you, Robin.
Thanks, Marc. I appreciate it. Your enthusiasm is in infectious. So I'm going to go with a big speedy here because we want to be sure that we value all of your questions and want to be sure that we can tell you everything we can about the quarter.
First and foremost, we delivered a record second quarter. AI is amplifying the value of our platform. This isn't just the technology shift, as you've heard, it's a reinvention of our customers' work and it is fueling our growth. So I want to take you through a few of the proof points. It starts with our operational focus on net new AOV, which is driving our reacceleration. Exceptional Q2 bookings, along with near record low attrition, drove our Q2 CRPO beat. Half 1 net new AOV growth significantly outpaced AOV growth, keeping us on track for second half organic revenue reacceleration. Contract lift terms for new business and renewals are increasing across all segments. Slack continues to shine. Q2 Slack net new AOV was the fastest quarterly growth since acquisition. AI innovation across our platform is delivering measurable value. Agentforce ARR reached $1.5 billion, as you heard, driven by Slack bot and Headless launches and continued AI momentum. Upgrades to our premium Slack additions have tripled since we launched Slack bot. Our consumption flywheel is turning. AW use continue to scale as customers drive agentic use cases across the platform. In Q2 alone, customers drove 3.2 billion AW use, up 97% quarter-over-quarter. And Slack bot users were up over 150% quarter-over-quarter. With this clear demand, we are making it even easier to adopt. Our premium bundles give our customers access to our innovation in real time. Bookings from Agentforce 1 edition and Agentforce for apps more than doubled quarter-over-quarter. Headless takes this even further, bringing Salesforce to the surfaces where teams already work, Slack, Claudeforce and with AI force, many more to come. MCP and API usage grew significantly in the quarter as customers embed sales force intelligence, the data, metadata and semantics directly into their workflows. You can see the momentum in our results from the quarter.
Q2 revenue came in at $11.35 billion, up 11% year-over-year, above the high end of our guidance in constant currency, driven by continued momentum in Slack and Agentforce. And we continue to accelerate Informatica's business. Subscription and support revenue was $10.82 billion, up 12% year-over-year in nominal and 11% in constant currency. Our top line performance reflects the breadth and resilience of our portfolio. Agentforce apps delivered solid growth, anchored in momentum in Slack and resilience in sales and service with early signs of recovery in marketing.
While it is too soon to call this a sustainable trend, we're very encouraged by the success enterprise customers are having on our next-generation marketing product. Headless platform, Data 360 and other growth was fueled by continued momentum in Informatica and Data 360, partially offset by license revenue headwinds and volatility in integration and analytics. CRPO accelerated quarter-over-quarter, with $33.5 billion, up 14% in constant currency, that's 1 point ahead of our guide, driven by strength in Slack, Agentforce and Data 360.
Our continued focus on operational discipline is evident in our profitability. Q2 non-GAAP operating margin was 34.1% and GAAP operating margin was 20.5%.
As customer zero, we are putting Agentforce to work across our own business. Salesforce's help agent have surpassed 5 million customer conversations with 64% resolved autonomously. Slack bot is driving 8.1 million hours of annualized productivity gains for our employees. That's more than double quarter-over-quarter. We generated $1.1 billion in free cash flow. That's up 81% year-over-year. Execution of our 25 billion accelerated share repurchase continues. We expect to repurchase at least 14% of shares outstanding through this program thus far at an average price of $176 per share. Our responsible capital return strategy underscores our conviction in our future.
So turning to our outlook for the year. I want to walk you through the components of the $300 million constant currency raise to our revenue guide. We are raising our FY '27 revenue guide for organic performance by $100 million. This is driven by the continued momentum in Agentforce, Data 360 and Slack. These areas of strength offset the continued volatility in overall license revenue. Alongside this organic growth, our raise incorporates a $200 million expected contribution from the anticipated closings of content and then in the coming weeks. Of note, our FY '27 revenue now incorporates a $100 million FX headwind compared to our prior guidance. This brings our updated FY '27 guidance for revenue to $46.1 billion to $46.4 billion, resulting in subscription and support growth of slightly above 12% year-over-year and slightly under 12% in constant currency. We're holding our non-GAAP operating margin guidance at approximately 34.3%. And we're updating our GAAP operating margin guidance to approximately 20.1%. We continue to expect operating and free cash flow growth of approximately 4% to 5% year-over-year.
So moving to our Q3 guidance. We expect Q3 revenue of $11.42 billion to $11.5 billion, growth of approximately 11% to 12% in constant currency. Q3 CRPO growth is expected to be approximately 14% year-over-year in constant currency. I do want to note that this does not include incremental contributions from Contentful and Fin, as we await deal closing to ensure accurate balances are reflected.
In closing, building on the momentum from a strong first half, we are delivering record revenue and cash flows this year. We look forward to sharing more on our latest innovation and financial framework during Investor Day at Dreamforce next month and connecting with many of you here in San Francisco.
So before I turn the call back over, I want to thank Mike Spencer for his incredible leadership of Investor Relations. His candor and clarity earn the trust of the investor community and I'm personally grateful for his partnership. Luckily, he's not going far. He's now taking on a broader role in our finance organization. I also want to extend a very warm welcome to Mark Murphy as our new Head of IR. He's covered Salesforce as a top sell-side analyst going all the way back to our IPO. So he knows many of you in our story very well.
Back to you, Marc.
Thank you for the kind words, Robin. With that, we will move to questions. [Operator Instructions] Sophie, please queue up the first question.
[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Kirk Materne from Evercore ISI.
2. Question Answer
Yes. Thanks very A lot of great things going on this quarter, but I have to ask about Claudeforce. And Marc, I think specifically, I'd love to understand how you and Miguel are going to be taking this product to the field, what are you doing with Anthropic to make sure that this gets out and gets to the hand to your customers as soon as it's available. And I assume we can be seeing Anthropic and Salesforce salespeople working together to bring a lot of value to both your collective customers.
Well, we're really excited about this product. This is the best of both worlds. It's the #1 AI meeting the #1 CRM and putting them together. As I said, when you do that, you get this incredible result, a radically different type of interface on top of Salesforce's entire platform. It's really powered by this incredible new AI harness that you're going to see at Dreamforce AI force. And that harness is able to power not only Claudeforce but a new version of Slack that you're going to be seeing as well as Coworker, which is something inside our lightning interface and other amazing things as well. But once you have that enabled, then you're able to really unleash the power of our data, our applications and semantic layer, agent layer and all of it comes to light in a whole new way. And I really saw it myself, as I said, in Europe, where we would really show these exhaustive demos to customers and when they could see that all this value that they have in their systems that has been trapped becomes untrapped, but you also saw it here at Salesforce. This quarter, we actually released it to many of our executives all over the world. And many of those executives were the ones who are actually demoing it directly to those customers that it was sales executives are my most senior sales executives, my operating unit leaders we're showing Claudeforce to our top customers already. And you're right, we'll also work hand-in-hand with in Anthropic sales executives as well and we'll do whatever we can to make sure that this becomes a huge part of our sales ecosystem. I think this is going to be an incredible opportunity for both companies. And I'd love for Miguel to come in and talk about his vision for how this has come together, and Miguel has been a huge driver of the relationship with Anthropic as well as really broadening the capabilities of both companies.
Thank you, Marc. Listen, I've been obsessed with this surface. I, myself and a number of my leadership team have been using very profusely the surface connected. We've done it manually, connected the SEP servers, created skills on our own. So I just can't believe that we have now this product available. We are rolling it out to the whole enterprise or the whole company. And then we're going to make it path. We're going to make it available to GA in September to everyone at Dreamforce. Every single seller of Salesforce will be demoing this product as 1 of the surfaces. By the way, we love Slack as 1 of the surfaces, but not everybody has Slack. They are complementary. Slack. You are working with your teams is a multiplayer surface with Cowork, you and Claudeforce or Salesforce before Claude. We are simply going deep and research and understanding your business. By the way, you are able to engage also through Slack through e-mail with your team members, it's going to be very powerful. Every customer will be able to buy it. They will have to upgrade to our premium additions and it's going to be a new wave of demand. I'm very excited about it.
And Miguel, just give us just a couple of anecdotes because I just know like -- when we turn this over to several of your European leaders specifically, and obviously, I was in Europe for that time, and they started using it, just even at the most basic level, the kind of things that they were building and the kind of things they could see about their business and how to drive their business forward really changed. Can you explain that?
So currently -- and by the way, this is what I want all our sellers to do. We're going to be living in 3 surfaces, what we built, and this innovation came from Europe more than the U.S. I'm very excited about that. We basically created a cockpit to understand the business.
So you're saying that Europeans can innovate.
Sometimes, we can. Yes. So we build our own agents based on our Claude and that agent expect, they are our deputy CROs for all our businesses, and they inspect the business, the pipeline, they tell us if there is risk in the month or in the quarter. And I do 1 thing that is -- Marc, you would love this. I talk -- by the way, I do this on Slack. This is 1 of the surfaces. I do this in -- I mean, at the time, Cowork now is Claudeforce. But I also do it in an app that I built with Claude Code. So depending on the moment I use 1 of the surfaces. But I do 1 thing that is very powerful. Every time that I visit a country, and don't tell anyone because I don't want my team to know. But essentially, what I do is, okay, I'm visiting Italy. I mean we have an amazing leader there, Vanessa Forteza, she's our [indiscernible]. And I said, okay, give me all the opportunities, open opportunities for the month and then send a Slack to every account executive copying the whole chain all the way to Vanessa, telling them, look at the opportunity record, look at everything, make it sound like it's me. I review all the e-mails all this like before they go. And in [indiscernible] 50 very customized Slack messages to the AEs, asking them if I can help, if we can do anything, it's incredible. The engine is very smart. It proposes already ideas to close the deal. And then when I visit the country, everybody is mobilized. Everybody has been working over the weekend. Vanessa is crazy running around, and we close deals faster.
Yes. Very exciting.
Thanks, Kirk. Sophie, we ill take our next question.
Our next question comes from Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research.
Congratulations on a fantastic quarter. Marc, you're seeing a pretty big debate intention in the industry about open weight and open source models versus frontier model adoption. I was wondering if you'd set the stage for us because what you're seeing in customers is important as you're offering the best of both worlds with both Claudeforce and AI Force/Headless. So maybe talk about how you see this debate selling and about the monetization opportunity for both Claudeforce and Headless and kind of when we should start thinking and seeing it in revenue growth?
Yes. I think a lot of customers are asked these questions, and there -- a lot of us -- I'm sure you can relate live in this podcast universe. We just were with David Friedman (sic) [ Friedberg ], whether I think we all love listening to his podcast, right? And we like listening to a lot of these podcasts. And we're in this podcast world, but I think sometime and please don't quote me on this, but podcast do not always meet reality. And it's very interesting. It can be very aggressive. It can be very stimulating, but it might not be exactly true. And I think that, that is just the world that we live in. We live in a world of misinformation where everybody has an agenda, financial agenda. They're trying to move a market. They're trying to make things happen. You see that as well with shorts in your market, where you'll see people come in with all kinds of misinformation to try to get something to happen. So I think that 1 way to think of -- to handle that is to go talk to customers. And this is what I do. So I have spent a lot of time with customers. And customers, it's pretty simple. They have -- if you talk to customers, what they'll say is, we only have 3 platforms. We have used Salesforce doing the front office. We have SAP, they're doing the back office. And we have Microsoft, they're doing productivity. And that's it. The reality is, yes, they have those 3 platforms. They also probably are hanging out with the hyperscaler. There's probably 3 or 4 different ones depending on what country it is in Europe. They also probably have a data lake supplier, and they also have a collaboration supplier, Slack or Teams. And I think when we look across those 6 things, they do not want to also then say, I'm have all these models, okay, which kind of gets to your question, which is like, do you think that these customers then are going to all of a sudden set up, all and maintain and build the human expertise to be able to build and maintain and train models? No. I believe what they're going to do is consume AI through packaged software. Not a huge statement, just they're consuming their AI through packaged software. You're using Slack, you're consuming AI through packaged software. You're using Salesforce. You're consuming AI through packaged software. At some level, when you use Cowork, you're consuming AI through packaged software. And when you're using Claudeforce, you're certainly using AI through packaged software. And I think that's the right way to think about it. I think the model, it's like, do you even know what chip you're using? Do you really know what data center you're on? Do you know what router you're on? What switch, what type of fiber what cable you're using, what interconnect you're using, at some level, we do will get abstracted back to kind of how the way the world used to be, which is we operate at a certain level of value and I believe the highest level of value is at the application layer.
So I couldn't tell you from my phone all the way through Salesforce and Slack all the way down to what the hardware infrastructure is, and I shouldn't have to worry about that. But I do understand this layer up here. And those top 4 layers that I've articulated several different times on the call, that's where I live with the customers. I did not have 1 customer really say to me, tell me, are you going to be an open source. Are you going to be on Frontier. And I think like 1 way to think about this is, yes, this is a highly dynamic market. And there will be frontier models. There's going to be open source models, and there's going to be room for all of the above. And I think it's very exciting if you're not tracking what NVIDIA is doing with Nemotron 1.3 and the ability to fine-tune it. It's a very exciting moment for models. But Salesforce also makes a lot of models, too, by the way. We have a lot of our own models that run in our platform. Our platform runs on our own custom models we've been writing models since like 2015, and you can find them all on hugging face. If you go, you'll see all the models. If you're really in the models, you can go and see that. So I just think we're at a moment where be careful and I'm not sure -- I don't think that's what customers -- well, I don't think that's where customers' heads are at, at least when they talk to me, that's not where their heads are at. Maybe some customers are. Obviously, if you go talk to my engineers, maybe they're interested in what's going on, but I don't think the customers that I speak to are at that level. Does that help you understand how I think about it?
Super clear.
Thanks, Alex. Sophie, we will take our next question.
Our next question comes from Elizabeth Porter with Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to just circle back on the strong Agentforce ARR growth. And in particular, what proportion of current Agentforce is coming from paid production customers rather than pilots? And how is the time line from pilot to pay deployment and refilling credits changed over the last couple of months? For instance, are we seeing any sort of lengthening of customers are evaluating a broader set of solutions or sales force is increasingly open and headless posture, helping derisk some of these decisions to potentially accelerate the agent with the Salesforce platform.
Can I take it?
Yes, I'm going to have to turn it over to Miguel. But the first thing I'll tell you is we offer our customers a wide variety of capabilities, products and functionality. And you mentioned Agentforce is 1, Coworker, if you haven't seen Coworker, it's our fastest-growing AI product. We have another super fast-growing product, Slack bot, where we expect Claudeforce to be growing super fast. Agentforce also is growing super fast. We have a lot of them. And what we're trying to do is let customers have very flexible capability so that they can choose all of them and grow with them as they want. And we have these new bundles that you've already heard about and these new bundles let customers do that. See customers want to buy and want to price in different ways. This is something I've learned really aggressively recently. Some are still buying by user and by agent. And that's important for them. Some of them want it might consumption, and that's important to them. Some of them are just basic usage customers, and they want to pay that way. Some of them even want to pay by outcome and that outcome could be by a transaction outcome or a business outcome. Because customers want that kind of diversity and pricing, we've created a high level of flexibility and that, I think, has really expanded our ability to sign very large transactions with our customers.
Miguel, do you want to go into the details?
Yes. I mean the top line numbers are obviously very impressive, but I'd like to go a little bit deeper under the hood. When you look to asset bookings, not just a cumulative ARR, our bookings, Elizabeth, grew double digit -- triple digits. So we doubled year-on-year. That was pretty fantastic. 50% of the bookings came from customers refilling the tank. So they consume, they use their flex credit, they want more, they raise their hand, we go there, which, by the way, is good for a productivity because these cell cycles are very short. The time to production is very important for us because consumption is very important to us. We bring customers in the funnel. We want to bring them down. The first thing is we get into production. We added 2,000 paying customers into production, that's 70% more quarter-on-quarter. We are not happy with production only. We want them to really be ready to do the work. We are taking them to the enterprise. We show them everything, how to work, and then we live. We call those agents consistently consuming. We added hundreds of consistently consuming agents down there. You've seen on the funnel. You've seen the consumption number that AWs exploded. It's -- but for me, the most important thing, the most important thing is to see the live customers. I want to tell you 1 story if I have time on 1 customer. But if you want to write down names of websites that you can go right now and see the agents or call them, Bodewell, geappliance.com, lululemon. If you're going to Mexico, volaris.com. Or Lingus, if you're going to Ireland, my 2 daughters are in Ireland now. You want to call Amazon Blink. I mean, you want to call [indiscernible].
Amazon Blink is such a great example, Miguel. Will you just talk -- tell the story just briefly?
I actually have the phone. Yes, Amazon Blink basically, if you have anything going on in your Amazon devices at home, you can call -- voice call. But I'm actually giving you 1 because since everybody hears a business, I want to -- if you need business insurance, commercial insurance, you can call 1 of the Berkshire-Hathaway companies, [indiscernible] and I'm actually going to give you the phone number, 402-200-3104, just called -- so 402-200-3104, and the experience is incredible because it's not just a chat, is a voice that is anchored to your trusted context and that can execute across our deterministic applications. But anyways, I give you a bunch of websites, et cetera. But let me tell you 1 story of some of the agents that are working in the enterprise that people don't see. Big digital platform company here in the U.S., 45 million, 45 million AW use is 1 of our largest, grew 14x. We started this 6 months ago in Q2. The AW user consumption grew 14x, 14-fold. And what it does is they call it the activation agent. They go to all the merchants that are already registered with this platform, but they are not transacting. They are not getting money from the merchants and the agent has 1,500 interactions every day, getting these dormant merchants alive and then kick in and then generating revenue. This customer, for instance, was 1 of the customers because we're meeting them where they are with pricing. They didn't want to buy upfront and do a big thing. They just wanted to try and see the value. So now, Marc, we are negotiating either -- we've given 2 options, either outcome by deal. I mean we're talking -- I mean, this is a $40 million customer for us. So it would be a master deal on [ adcom ] based or it could be simply an [indiscernible], unlimited agreement with millions of...
I think that's the most important thing for us. I mean, I think that we've heard so many companies say, we're doing outcome pricing. We're doing this pricing. We're doing that pricing. We're just too big. We have to do it all. And so we've built these new flexible pricing schemes that let our customers choose the price that they want. And we're going to get more and more into that zone. But this last thing that Miguel said that some customers want business outcome pricing, that's very exciting, and that's never been true before in enterprise software. And Miguel, 1 more huge announcement we had in the quarter was that Miguel is now our Chief Operating Officer, congratulations, Miguel.
Thank you.
Thanks, Elizabeth. Sophie. We will take our next question.
Our next question comes from Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs.
I think this follows nicely from Elizabeth's commentary on the different types of pricing models. If I think of what Zero and [indiscernible] is saying, you've got some customers that are using the Agentforce stack. We've got some customers that are doing Headless, and now you've got the Claudeforce announcement today as well. My question is a little bit on the economic value to Salesforce from these different types of cohorts. I know you're still figuring out monetization on Headless. Do you think in steady state, you'll be able to capture the same type of ACV from customers agnostic of whether they do Agentforce or whether they do some sort of Headless configuration? And then any early reflections you can share as you progress on figuring out monetization that this would be very helpful.
Maybe I'll start, Gabriela. It's a great question. And even going back to Alex's question as well. We feel really comfortable with -- like you said, we're working through Headless monetization. But just to further double down on Marc's point, what we ultimately think is predictability and flexibility is what's important to customers. And as Marc said, they're going to buy a lot of different type of ways I think most importantly, though, we think with our new platform, AI Force, we really are going to unlock the potential for knowledge workers in great ways. So I think that's going to be pretty impressive. The other thing is, is the way we're delivering this is through our premium upgrades that we also talked about. So they're going to get innovation in the moment. That is an early stage for us relative to our installed base. So our opportunity to continue to upgrade our customers to those premium additions that gives them instantaneous access to this innovation is an amazing future opportunity for us. So we feel really comfortable with the monetization strategy that we have and most importantly, the flexibility that we're giving our customers that allows us to capture that.
Quick thing. The AI opportunity, you can see, first, augmenting employees. That's where our premium additions come because when you are on 1 of those premium additions, you basically have a limited usage to augment yourself as an employee. And then the customer-facing use cases, which is Monster. This is the digital label world. It's Monster that we monetize with ILS with Flex credit and here, we meet customers where they are in their journey. Sometimes they want to buy as they go. Sometimes we just charge for overages. And many times, they buy upfront a band of credits. I think AI services is going to increase the demand across the board. What I can tell you is every and we're measuring this, we're going to give you an update in the Dreamforce, but we started last year. Customers do start the genic journey with Salesforce. On average, they are already at double the AOV with a perspective of nearly [ quadriplent ] 3x to 4x the AOV. Think about this. The only thing that I need to do is to convince every single customer, and that's why Mark is on the road from time to time, meeting customers and convince them to come like he did with [indiscernible] to come with us in their agenetic journey because once they make the decision, double, triple, quadruple the AOV with us.
Yes. And I think that, that's what's really key. I think your question is so good, Gabriela. I'll tell you why it's so good because I think that if you would ask us a year ago, we'd be like, well, we don't really know. But I think now what we see is, well, all this new action on the network, call it, agentic action, new user interfaces, new applications, is just a lot more activity on our service. I mean the amount of action at Salesforce on our service, the value that we're adding, the actual value that we can give to our customers is immense. So have we fully optimized that yet? No way. We're still trapped in some ways in old per user pricing models, but their opportunity to build much more aggressive pricing to really represent the value that we're offering to our customers, I think, is enormous. And Miguel is really at the very beginning of what I think will be 1 of the most exciting journeys he's ever been on.
Only 5% of the knowledge workers that use sales and service have upgraded to the higher-end additions. We get a 60% to 80% premium. So imagine.
Yes. And I think that's a major. So if you want Claudeforce, if you want Headless, if you want all these value-added agentic additions and capabilities, you need to move to our premium addition, which is what's going to give you the power to fully operate inside your enterprise and deliver this high level of capability and unleash the huge amount of value that's been trapped for so many years. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks, Gabriela. Sophie, we will take our last question.
Our last question comes from John DiFucci with Guggenheim Securities.
Miguel, I know you've gone through the math of how the subscription net new AOV to revenue works. And we agree, it's math. But there are 2 things that Robin said that I think are really important to that. And one, net new AOV growth is the strongest it's been in 4 years. And two, you had near record low attrition. Those 2 things help that math work. We know that. Can you better -- I guess, help us better understand what's happening underneath those statements? How stable or sticky is that foundation of your recurring revenue? And more importantly, how should we think about that going forward? Because Marc's talked a lot about the so-called SaaSpocalypse, and he's -- and I appreciate that those -- actually, I don't know, probably not fun, but it was always interesting. But if you follow through on those...
Thank you for your empathy.
But if you -- if Salesforce follows through on those statements and that math, both low attrition and strong new business growth, that term is going to be part of history, Marc.
You missed the third leg of the stool, though, John, you didn't say a new value-added for customers. I think that the key is 3 things. Yes, it has to be about low attrition, okay? And high net new AOV, very important. But the third thing that we have to do with this AI is deliver this new value added that's going to bam, bam, bam, offer all these new capabilities. And I'll just come back to what we said, whether you're using Claudeforce or you're going to see the new version of Slack. I'll just go into in a second, also has an incredible surface. And this idea that all of a sudden, these kind of things that sit kind of theoretically at the top of the stack, can dynamically build for you these applications. So you're going to work with it and you're going to say, "Hey, I'm managing this part of my business. It involves these customers, these products, these competitors, this technology and bring this together to me in a map and this and that." And where you used to have to take months or years to build very complex, very dynamic applications that look like they were built in. I'm not going to get too geeky on you but like react like a very complex user interface, all of a sudden, that is what the AI is really good at. And we're doing the heavy lifting down below the sharing models, the business models, the security models, keeping it safe, keeping it controlled, keeping the data where it needs to be, making sure the wrong person doesn't see the wrong data, that kind of thing. But then that idea that we can offer a lot more value. So it's those 3 things all coming at once. And that is what -- that's what our hope is, is that we will offer more value for our customers and unleased trap value and that, that's going to give us this huge leg up. And that last thing that Miguel said that we're moving to not just kind of outcome-based pricing, which is we completed this many phone calls, therefore, give us do. We want to be able to say, no, we improve revenue by this much, so give us $2 because we made you $20 or we made you $40. And I think that, that's like the next generation of enterprise software that is more than outcome-based pricing. And there's other enterprise software companies that are out there that are kind of doing well. They work with sometimes mid-market companies and get huge prices for their products because they've basically been able to write an outcome deal like if I can generate this much more revenue for you, you have to give me a percentage of it. Well, you could do that at scale now that you have this kind of thing. And you don't need a bunch of FTEs and engineers and all that to do that because that's what the AI is really good for up here at this top level. Does this make sense, what I'm saying to you?
You know what, Marc, it makes absolute sense, but -- and I really appreciate it. But I think you'd agree with me that even without that, the way Salesforce stock and some of your peers have been trading, they are not even looking at that. They were just afraid things were going to deteriorate into...
They're not looking at -- right, well, yes, take the value of Slack. Obviously, I get a call every day from somebody who wants to buy Slack. Hey, take the value of Slack. Then take the value of our Anthropic stock. That's been like half our value of our -- forget our cash flow or our customer base, that's why I said, Robin go try to buy as much back as much Salesforce stock as you can. And I think we got a lot of stock at a good price.
Well, you're on your way this [indiscernible] statement.
Thank you. Thank you. Keep guiding us, John.
On the confidence about the future, I mean, H1 -- H2 last year was our great net AOV growth semester. We knew, Robin and I, we partnered together, we knew that for organic revenue to reaccelerate as we committed to happening now in H2, we had to continue with UV growth outpacing AOV growth. That was our obsession. We aligned the whole company this fiscal year, compensation plans, every role. H1 net AOV significantly growth outpaced AOV growth. We've already raised the guidance. We've already committed to the revenue acceleration in organically in Q3. The momentum is there. We feel very, very strong. The demand environment is very, very good, very strong. Our pipeline at record levels. We have more opportunities to monetize that we are not even put it in the pipeline. We had the capacity. Thank you, Marc. You pushed us to hire a lot of AEs when things were a little bit rocky.
Somebody's got to call these customers besides me, Miguel.
I know. I know. I do some calls also.
Thank you for helping out.
We have the capacity and we have the innovation, we have the product. So do you think the demand is there and it's going to get even better with the AI Force. And the supply, which is, for us, supply is capacity, distribution capacity, which we have higher more than anybody else. We still have to hire 1,200 more before the end of the year. We are now hitting 15,000 AEs and the innovation. We have the best products we've ever had. Most of it organic. We've made some tuck-in acquisitions to enlarge our times. We are very confident. Definitely, we are committed to the H2 revenue reacceleration. That's already math. Q3 is math, Q4 is nearly math. But we are committed in sustaining that acceleration, and we are going to hear more at Dreamforce about fiscal year '28.
And I think even to add to that, Miguel, is if you take a look, particularly at sales and service, we're seeing durable growth in seats, right? So that's fundamental proof point is that everything we're doing is amplifying our entire platform. It's an amazing progress.
AI, It's simplifying the need for drastic context and deterministic execution. Very clear.
Perfect note to end on. Thank you, John, and thank you to everyone for joining the call. We will be hosting a webinar on Tuesday to deep dive on our customer motion and adoption of AI with Bill Patterson and Conor Marsden, and we look forward to seeing you all over the coming weeks and at Investor Day at Dreamforce.
Thank you for joining. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.
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Salesforce — Q2 2027 Earnings Call
Salesforce — Q2 2027 Earnings Call
Salesforce meldet ein starkes Q2: Rekordumsatz, hoher Free Cashflow und AI‑Gestützte Produkte treiben Wachstum; Guidance leicht angehoben.
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $11,35 Mrd. (+11% YoY)
- CRPO: $33,5 Mrd. (+14% in konstanter Währung; 1 Punkt über der Guidance)
- Free Cashflow: $1,1 Mrd. (+81% YoY)
- Margen: Non‑GAAP Operativmarge 34,1%; GAAP Operativmarge 20,5%
- AI‑Kennzahlen: Agentforce ARR $1,5 Mrd.; AI/Data ARR kurz vor $4 Mrd.; Slack‑/Agent‑Nutzung stark steigend (Slack bot 1 Mio. aktive Nutzer, +150% QoQ)
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Claudeforce: Partnerschaft mit Anthropic (Claude) als neues Produkt‑Interface, soll Daten und Agenten direkt auf Salesforce nutzen; GA/Weitrollout am Dreamforce angekündigt.
- Enterprise AI‑Architektur: Fokus auf vier Schichten (Daten, Applikationen, Agenten, Interface) via "AI Force" um in bestehende Systeme Wert freizusetzen und schnelle, sichere AI‑Apps zu ermöglichen.
- GTM & Monetarisierung: Flexible Preis‑ und Produktoptionen (Premium‑Additions, Credits, nutzungs‑ und ergebnisbasierte Modelle) zur schnellen Kundenausweitung und Upsell.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑Erhöhung: Guidance um ~$300 Mio. (konst. Währung) erhöht: $100 Mio. organisch plus $200 Mio. erwartete Beiträge aus anstehenden Übernahmen (Contentful, Fin).
- FY‑Ziel: $46,1–46,4 Mrd. Umsatz; Subscription & Support leicht über +12% YoY (nominal), leicht unter +12% in konstanter Währung.
- Margen & Cash: Non‑GAAP Operativmarge unverändert ~34,3%; GAAP ~20,1%; operativer und freier Cashflow erwartet +4–5% YoY.
- Q3‑Ausblick: Umsatz $11,42–11,50 Mrd. (~+11–12% CC); CRPO‑Wachstum ~+14% CC; schließt Beiträge von Contentful/Fin noch nicht ein.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Claudeforce‑Rollout: Nachfrage nach Go‑to‑Market‑Details; Management: Vertriebsintegration mit Anthropic, GA/weitere Demos bei Dreamforce, kommerzielle Verfügbarkeit im Herbst.
- Modelldebatte: Diskutiert wurden Open‑Source vs. Frontier‑Modelle; Management sieht Kunden bevorzugt AI über verpackte Software konsumieren statt selbst Modelle zu betreiben.
- Monetarisierung & Produktion: Fragen zu Paid‑vs‑Pilot‑Anteil beantwortet mit operativen Daten: 50% der Agentforce‑Bookings aus "Refills", +2.000 zahlende Produktionskunden (+70% QoQ), starke Nutzungswachstumskennzahlen; konkrete Headless/Claudeforce‑Umsatzpfade noch nicht voll quantifiziert.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Q2 bestätigt Re‑Beschleunigung: starke Top‑Line, deutlich höherer Free Cashflow und frühe Monetarisierungsansätze für AI‑Produkte. Kurzfristig sind Dreamforce, Produkt‑Rollouts und Abschluss der angekündigten Zukäufe die wichtigsten Katalysatoren; mittelfristig hängt die Nachhaltigkeit vom Upsell auf Premium‑Additions und erfolgreicher Preis‑/Outcome‑Monetarisierung ab.
Salesforce — Mizuho Technology Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
All right. We're going to get started with our next session. Very pleased to have Patrick Stokes with us for our next fireside chat. Patrick, of course, is President and CMO of Salesforce, has nearly 20 years of experience in product leadership roles. That includes the last 15 or so at Salesforce. Patrick, thanks so much for being here.
Thanks for having me. Really appreciate it.
My pleasure. So just by way of getting everything started, it'd be helpful if you could outline for us your primary responsibilities and focus areas at Salesforce.
Sure. Happy to. Well, I'm exactly who you all want to talk to. I'm the Chief Marketing Officer at Salesforce. I've had a bit of an interesting journey. So I've been at the company for about 15 years, longer than most, not quite as long as some. Most of my career has been on the engineering and product side. I started as an engineer, moved into product kind of 10 years in product at Salesforce. I ran our platform, and then moved over to marketing about 2 years ago, 2.5 years ago, right, when all the AI stuff really kicked off, I didn't quite know it at the time and then the whole world changed, which was difficult. And then about 4 months ago moved into the CMO position.
Fantastic. So you're coming off of a solid Q1 in which Salesforce impressed with Agentforce disclosures, of which there were several, and you reiterated confidence in second half revenue acceleration as well. So maybe just briefly recap for us what you personally viewed as most important or instrumental kind of out of the last quarter.
Yes. Well, certainly, we're very excited about the continued growth in Agentforce. I think $1.2 billion now on the Agentforce side, up from, I believe, $800 million. So we're very, very excited about that. We're starting to see customers reach real scale on that with some pretty sophisticated use cases. I'm also equally excited about the AWU growth. We're certainly seeing our own token consumption from.
And that's agentic work units.
Agentic work units, yes. And this is this idea of tokens in and out, that's effectively a measure of reasoning or a measure of intelligence, but it's not a measure of actual work getting done. And so we thought it was important for the market and really -- and the technology sector as a whole to kind of have a way to measure actual work getting done by these pieces of intelligence. So we introduced that in Q4 and I was very excited to see that continuing to grow alongside token growth, of course. Interesting watching the 2 of them kind of grow at -- each of them kind of picks up pace at certain moments in time.
It's also really interesting looking at the AWUs kind of across different industries and different segments, you can start to see where different usage patterns are emerging. And then lastly, I would say, I was very, very excited about our Headless launch, which we did not that long ago, in March, I think it was at TDX, our developer conference. And I'm very excited about what that means for Salesforce and the reaction to it we're seeing from our customers. So really opened up kind of a new way of thinking about our role in this agentic era.
All right. That's great. I definitely want to dive more into Headless in a few moments. But let's stick with Agentforce because I think it's important to understand what's underpinning the growth that you were just talking about. So there were a lot of announcements around Agentforce, I would say, dating back to Dreamforce last October. Many other improvements have since been unveiled as well. But how would you characterize the agentic capabilities of Agentforce today? And what are the most important enhancements to both the tech and the ecosystem, right, over the last 6 to 9 months that are really enabling your customers to unlock more value?
Yes. I mean I think the 2 biggest advancements in the last, let's call it, 6 months or so on the Agentforce side are one, something that we call Agentforce Script, which is, if you start building an agent, you get very excited early on because you're, like, all I have to do is write human instructions and like I've coded my agent. They're effectively -- if I'm being very reductive, they're effectively just prompts under the covers. And so anybody can write those. But what you realize when you're starting to try to get agents to do multi-step and complex workflows is you have a lot of like do this, but unless this happens, then do this and you start writing it like that and the agent gets very, very, very confused very, very quickly.
And the irony of like programming languages is that's effectively what they are, if this, then that types of flows. And so we pioneered this way to kind of put little micro moments of scripting into the prompt so that you could eliminate some of the probabilistic problems of working with an LLM. You've all seen this, you ask it a question and then you ask it the same question, you get 2 different answers. So it's a probabilistic nondeterministic system. When you're trying to execute workflows, you don't want that, you want deterministic. You want do it the way I've asked you to do it every single time. And so Agentforce helps you with that. And that's been a big unlock for our customers that are trying to either do this at scale or do it in regulated environments, do it with certain policies that they need to make sure the agent is following.
And then the second, I would say, is voice for sure. Voice is very, very exciting for our customers and it was a pretty significant computer science project for us to get that working well. Voice is a tricky thing because there's humans and people have different ways of talking and there's interruptions and latency and all of these things that you kind of don't think of until you actually start trying to build it and you're like, oh, this is actually pretty damn hard.
Yes. And there are, Patrick, several CCaaS incumbents, right, that have had existing solutions for a while. How do you think about where Agentforce voice stacks up at this stage?
Yes. I mean, I think we're in pretty good shape. If you had asked me 3 months ago, I would say we probably have work to do. But I think at the moment, we're now running Salesforce, our 1-800 number on Agentforce voice. You can call it now and you'll talk to Agentforce. And we have other customers doing the same. I think over -- we'll probably be sitting here with our Q2 earnings after talking about the big kind of scaled voice customers, just like we are the kind of chat customers with Agentforce.
Okay. Super interesting. And then one other comment on Agentforce. We started to hear of some forward-thinking customers that, I would say, are deploying multi-cloud Agentforce use cases. So they might extend from Service Cloud to Sales Cloud or you're doing case resolution in Service Cloud and that triggers a campaign in Marketing Cloud. Is this something that you're really kind of seeing as well? And is your go-to-market aligned enough, frankly, to be able to sell more holistically in this way?
Yes, good question. I mean it's funny. The first part of your question is like, we saw that from the very beginning. There really isn't a usage of Salesforce that doesn't cut across. The platform is actually quite a bit more like [indiscernible] together than you think that it is from a pure usage perspective. From a buying perspective, it's maybe a little bit more discrete. You have sales service, et cetera, et cetera. So those -- as soon as you start using Agentforce, you immediately get into scenarios where you're like, okay, I'm going to use it to try to qualify a lead. But then I want to put those leads into a marketing campaign. You just -- you immediate -- or service, I'm going to use it for case resolution, but I need to know if there's an open opportunity because I'm going to handle my case resolution in a different way. So there's tons of those types of use cases.
What we've tried to do is make it easier to buy that. So this is what our kind of top end additions like we call it internally A for X, so Agentforce for sales and commerce service, et cetera, they kind of come with the entirety of the platform. It's like here it all is, go implement your agent and so you're not kind of buying individual piece parts.
Okay. Great. And then maybe just to sort of zoom out a bit, I think what a lot of investors in this room and elsewhere are wondering is like when will the rubber hit the road, right, when it comes to enterprises, meaningfully deploying Agentforce in production and at scale. Certainly, we know that some have gotten to that level, right? But it just comes down to more broad adoption in that capacity.
Yes. I think your second part there kind of got it. I think certainly, we are seeing many, many, many hundreds of customers reach meaningful scale, either scale from a usage perspective, in some cases, simple use cases, but that are being interacted with by hundreds of thousands or millions of individual kind of consumers on the other side, customers like Southwest, who are now kind of doing 20% to 30% of all of their inbound requests from customers with Agentforce. So it's like the curve of sophistication of the interaction and then volume. And so there may be kind of lower on sophistication, but very, very high on volume. And then you have other customers that are very, very high on sophistication and maybe a little bit lower on volume as they experiment.
So we're seeing kind of all ends of that spectrum. But I think the real basis of your question is, okay, Patrick, but like when is everybody going to be doing that? When is [ 187,000 ] of your customers, they're all going to be doing that?
Or at least a very significant percentage.
At least a very significant percentage. I think we're definitely nearing that. It's certainly part of how we think about H2 and accelerating the business. That's kind of all factored into that. So I definitely think you're going to start to see a rapid acceleration as the product gets easier to use, as the CIOs start to kind of trust what we've built and that also means in a way, I have to be careful how I say this, but in a way, given up on what they've tried to DIY, right? It's kind of like the cloud in the early days where everybody went out and tried to build their own cloud. And you could look at it and say, what are you doing? And what they're doing is they're creating intuition of what it takes to do it.
And then that's putting us in a better position because now they come with that intuition and they go, okay, you've actually solved the problems that I ran into and maybe didn't want to solve. And so we're definitely starting to see a lot more kind of openness to the platform from CIOs than maybe we were 6, 12 months ago when everything was so new, they were all just trying to figure it out.
Okay. Yes, super encouraging. And of course, just maybe to sort of stay with this train of thought. I mean the big fear out there remains that AI and specifically the Frontier labs, right, that they will drive significant disruption and deceleration in the Salesforce business. Why is that view incorrect?
Well, I mean, there's the data side of it, and then there's the subjective side. I mean the data side shows that it's not correct at the moment. Our seats are still growing. Our businesses -- our core businesses are still growing, and we're very happy with the growth. But also when you look into the AI labs, this is what's most fascinating to me. And many of these labs are run by -- have people in the go-to-market organization that we know, they're all using Salesforce extensively, in fact, more than some of our biggest customers. And the reason that is, is because these AI labs, what they're doing is they're not using Salesforce the same way customers have for the last 20 years.
They're not using it as a UI. They're not logging into it every day and logging a call and an opportunity. They're using it through their own agentic interface through Claude Enterprise or through Codex. They're hooking it up with MCP. This is how Headless comes into play. And that's how they're using Salesforce. So what we're seeing is there's actually an expansion of usage and expansion of consumption. That's separate from the whole seat conversation is kind of a separate one, which I'm sure you'll hit on. But just if you separate that for a moment, the existing seats this new way of working with Salesforce, we're seeing usage spike up quite a bit. And so that's very, very encouraging for us.
Okay. Terrific. And yes, that was a perfect segue to Headless. So I do think the Headless 360 announcement, Patrick, just seems like a really clever and interesting way to drive stronger connections to your point, with the Frontier AI models, also opening up the Salesforce platform to external AI agents and coding tools via MCP as you also highlighted. One other thing I would add is just also reducing friction, just making Salesforce easier for developers to use. So I guess, is there anything -- is that a fair characterization? Anything else that you would sort of highlight as part of this?
Yes, definitely a fair characterization. I mean the inspiration for Headless came from just watching people use Salesforce in a different way. We have these partnerships with the AI labs and we're watching them use and we can see the API data. We can see that their consumption is through the roof, but like they're using it through Slack, for example, the AI labs are all big giant Slack users or they're using it through their own Claude interface. But we are also seeing it just in the -- this is a very, very hot kind of space right now. So you go to X or you go to Reddit, and it's just like an army or you go to these Discord channels where all these developers hang out. And there's just these constant kind of sets of conversations of people trying to figure this out.
There's something that I think people can sense where they're like, there's a new way to work. I think that's what they're sensing that there's going to be a way to work that all of the friction of going to all of these discrete applications that have been purpose-built for the function that I do, that's going to go away and it's going to be replaced by a new interface that interacts with kind of the underlying capability of those discrete applications.
So the applications aren't going to go away, but the UI is going to be massively disrupted. And so we started to see that pattern emerging, and that was the inspiration. It's just like, okay, well, that's what customers want and many other companies kind of in our space saw it as well and they were like, we don't want that. We're terrified. We don't want to lose our users. We don't want to lose the UI, and we just took the exact opposite approach and said, no, we endorse it. Let's open this up. We're going to have to figure out how to monetize it, which is something that we're talking a lot about, and I'm sure is very relevant for all of you, but the pattern itself is really a no-brainer. And that's why I think it's so exciting.
I think that you saw a very positive sentiment, which we were all very excited about. It's been a couple of months of the SaaS [indiscernible]. And so kind of getting back in front with a message of like, no, no, guys, we see this. We understand what it is you're trying to do and we want to actually enable that and endorse that. We think that, that is the future. I think it was a little bit of a reset moment for us.
Okay. And clearly, it sounds like a mechanism that put Salesforce more directly in the token path.
Absolutely. Well, I mean when you look at these tokens, tokens represent intelligence, as I said earlier, and right now, by far, the single biggest use case for consuming tokens is coding, right? That's -- it's the killer app. One engineer can generate like $100,000 a month bill without much problem. Now you can debate whether that's highly efficient or not. But they're making -- these labs are making a lot of money on these tokens.
There will probably be some sort of normalization or reckoning of that. Right now, everybody is just like everybody code. And so people are -- you hear these stories of people taking their -- blah, blah, blah. So there's going to be a normalization. But what the AI labs are -- we think that they're looking for is, well, what's the next killer app? What's the next killer use case? And that's where we think Salesforce is perfectly positioned because we think it's knowledge work. We think it's people like you every day that are showing up and having meetings and analyzing things and making decisions, you have to access information and you want to be able to access information in a way that's low friction, and then you want to be able to connect that to the intelligence of the AI, and that's effectively what we can provide.
Okay. Terrific. And then you alluded to this, Patrick, we know there has not been an official decision on Headless 360 pricing, but maybe you could just sort of speak to some of the early considerations and how that monetization might present itself for Salesforce.
Yes. I mean, so there's kind of 2 arms to the puzzle. One, there's actually quite a few very important technology decisions that we need to make in terms of how do we ask people that are building agents outside of our platform to identify those agents to us in the same way that they identify a user to us, and that's important to solve because that provides the layer of kind of governance and licensing and permissioning that we need to put for the agent to exist and consume from Salesforce in the first place.
So there's a number of technology decisions there, many of which will almost certainly result in some sort of agent user license showing up. So just like we have human licenses, we'll likely have agent licenses as well where you have to self identify the agents that you run on top of Salesforce.
Now that sounds like if you're in Salesforce at least where we have this 25-year legacy of seat-based pricing that sounds like the answer. Okay, great. So we're going to charge for the agent licenses, that's possible, but we're trying to be as thoughtful as we can on this and make sure that our own kind of legacy bias on that doesn't come in too much. We're trying to be very kind of forward in the way that we think about it. But really, what we're doing is we're talking to our customers and our partners. And we're going to them right now and we're saying, look, blank slate, here's your contract. Imagine that you could just rewrite your contract right now and have whatever unlimited usage of Headless that you want for the environment that you're trying to create. You tell us what that contract would look like. And that's -- those are the conversations we're having with our customers right now to make sure that we can do it thoughtfully.
What we don't want to do what you can feel in the room, I feel it in every room and especially rooms like this is you all want to know the pricing model so you can model our future growth. And we want you to be able to do that as well, but we want to make sure that we don't give you something that turns out to be wrong and then we have the wrong model. So that's why we're being careful here.
Yes, it makes perfect sense. And the other thing, which I don't know how much of this you guys have thought through, right? But if I think back to the early instantiations of Agentforce pricing, right, where -- and this is a very different world, right, because everyone was trying to figure it out.
Like 6 months ago.
Everything is [indiscernible]. So -- but initially, it's per conversation pricing and then it was per action. And then we got to the point of having sort of discrete subscriptions, right, then we have the Agentforce 1 Editions and then you had AELA, right, where you have Agentforce ELAs for customers that are willing to make very, very big commits. So I guess the question here is, is the bias from your perspective, and I won't hold you to it, I realize it's early stages, but to sort of give customers some choice, but maybe to not make it overly complicated, which some may argue was maybe an initial impediment to Agentforce adoption, again, in the very early innings before you kind of were able to work through all that.
I think that's a very fair characterization or criticism, whatever you want to call it. Yes, I think there's like a Goldilocks type of scenario that we haven't totally found yet. When we first started with Agentforce, it was something that was brand new, and customers didn't know what to expect. So they wanted a consumption model. And so we gave them a consumption model, but it turns out that is a very complicated consumption model. And so it's very, very difficult to kind of predict. It was hard enough to predict their own usage because they didn't really know how they were going to use it at the time.
And then even if they could predict their own usage, it was hard to turn that usage into to understand the commercials of it because our consumption side was so difficult. So we made it easier. We're like, okay, what if you just bought the AELA and then you don't worry about it, like use as much as you want and don't worry about it. And customers like that as well because it's simple, but it's also very expensive. It's more expensive than -- so it's -- you kind of have to pick your [ evil ] but that's not what we want. We don't want the customer to have to pick their [ evil ]. We want to get them to something that they can really trust and believe in. And I think we're seeing other models emerge outside of Salesforce that are interesting. And I think what this comes down to is it's not really about what benefits us. It's we want to find a model that benefits our customer. And so we're going to experiment with as many models as we can. The downside to that is it looks like we're confusing the market, which I get, like how many pricing models do you have? And how do we measure this? But we're -- our approach is like, yes, that's a moment in time, and we kind of just need you to trust us on this. We're going to figure it out. We're going to do it with our customers, and we're going to find the right thing to do.
Okay. Very helpful. Yes. Thanks, Patrick. And while we're on the topic, so last week, Salesforce announced the acquisition of Contentful, which has a CMS content management system. Can you expand on kind of what this IP will help Salesforce accomplish?
Yes. Well, first of all, so the interesting thing about Contentful is that it's effectively a headless-first platform. So they didn't spend a great deal of time worrying about what the UI for content could look like. Because if you think about content, it's really just like a feature of a campaign, which is a feature of marketing. So the SaaS era has created just like this massive sprawl of these purpose-built applications, and that's especially true in marketing. If you look at the LUMAscape for marketing, it's like there's so much. So they were like -- we don't think that's where the world is going. We think the world is going into a world where there's some sort of intelligence that's orchestrating campaigns in real time and doing one-to-one personalization. And so what it would need to do that is it would need a headless CMS. It would need to be able to pull the content out when it needs it. The CMS would have enough metadata, enough context in it so that, that intelligence on the other hand can go grab that when it needs it.
So part of the attractiveness of the acquisition was certainly that just bringing a little bit more Headless DNA into our product organization. But also, this has been a little bit of a gap in our Marketing Cloud Strategy for many years, and so it certainly had some attractiveness in terms of kind of shoring up our Marketing Cloud.
All right, terrific. I'll ask one more question, and then we'll pause for any of you folks that may have a question to ask Patrick. So I want to just talk about Slack for a moment. So a lot of investors, quite frankly, believe that Salesforce overpaid for Slack all those years ago. Now my opinion is that view has some merit, but I will also say that Slack has quietly become a more integral technology in an agentic world and many people don't really seem, from my investor conversations, really seem to be aware of that to the extent that it's actually occurring. And going forward, it also seems that because of Slackbot that this can really become more of a center of gravity for Salesforce. That's the opportunity that we see, but it will be helpful to hear your vision on where you think all this is heading.
Well, it's pretty similar to your characterization there. Slack for us, I think the market in general kind of see Slack as a collaboration tool and they kind of put it in the same [ bar ] as Teams. And I think that's just a really kind of unsophisticated view of what Slack really is, which is where Slack started was it was a platform for developers. So developers needed a way to work together to build projects and so Slack emerged as a solution for that. And it wasn't just because you could create channels and invite your friends into the channels, it was because of its openness. It's connectivity to things like GitHub and Jira.
It built this ecosystem of connectivity. So it became very, very sticky for developers in the way that they work.
We're seeing that same thing now happen to all sorts of different functions. Certainly, this is true in Salesforce. I mean we only work in Slack. It's unbelievable how much we get done in Slack. But we're seeing it with our customers as well and especially the small -- the new logos, the small customers and even the AI labs, which we say small, they're like $1 trillion companies, but they only have like 2,000 people in them, right? So on the scale of employees, they look like they're small, but like they run their whole business on Slack, and it's because of that connectivity. So that's kind of one side of it.
But the other side of it, that's very exciting is that it is already a conversational interface. So it's already really well prepared for an agentic future for when you have teams of humans working side by side with agents. But it's even more than that because you could say, well, Patrick, we kind of already have that with Claude and with ChatGPT, that's a human working with an agent. And it is, but it's one human working with one agent. It's a single player environment. And that single player environment, it's useful. It's nice to be able to work like off on the side and just talk to Claude, but most of us work within teams.
Slack is inherently a multiplayer environment. And once you start putting agents into a multiplayer environment, all sorts of interesting kind of usage patterns start to emerge. So one person can ask a question and the agent answers and then a second person can ask a question and it becomes this very interactive multiplayer type of experience. Imagine using Claude Code, which is also a single player environment in a multiplayer experience. These are things that the labs are kind of very interested in doing with us at the moment. And it also adds an element of trust.
How many of you have ever had your boss and your managers send you something that you can tell was just done in Claude and they're like, look, here's my analysis. And like you instantly know it was done in Claude just by the way it's written. We all have a spidey-sense for this now or OpenAI as well. But what you also are probably developing a spidey-sense for is that your manager is [ full of shit ] and whatever they prompted to get that answer was full of bias. And so of course, it's very convenient that the analysis that the AI did matches what the person on the other side is asking for because that's just human nature in the way we prompt it.
Well, when you move that into a multiplayer environment, all of a sudden this kind of new paradigm of trust evolves because now you can see the prompt, right? And you understand how it arrived at the answer. And in fact, multiple people can kind of prompt it at the same time. And so you're getting a much richer answer that's much more based in multiple viewpoints, which is a much more trusted answer. And that's something that I don't think anybody has really demonstrated yet, but we're on the path to do.
I have to say that's a fascinating point. I hadn't thought through that in that degree of depth, that may be something again that really enables you to kind of drive some more separation, right? As Slackbot continues to -- and Slack more broadly continues to get adopted. So that's -- yes...
And even Slackbot, amazing tool, incredible capability, but even Slackbot right now at this moment in time is a single player, right? So you ask it a question, it answers for you. You can share the answer. But imagine, instead of that, you're just in a channel and you have 15 members in the channel, but 2 of them are agents. And you just ask a question in the channel and the agent responds to them. So that user interaction model or paradigm hasn't been fully explored yet, but that's where we're going with Slack and it's super exciting.
Okay. Tremendous. So fascinating conversation. So that took quite a bit of time, but it was important, I think. Any questions for Patrick.
Patrick, thanks for sharing the insights. Multiplayer was [indiscernible] as you think for multiplayer environment, essentially sort of like [indiscernible] system [indiscernible] use all that stuff. How do you think about that?
Well, I think what we have at Salesforce, whenever we're building product and trying to bring product out into the world, what we're trying to do is identify what's the thing that's scarce. Right now, the intelligence is not really scarce. I mean there's limits on how much energy we can provide in the world to kind of deliver the inference through the GPUs. But the thing that Salesforce delivers that scarce is context and trust. And so if you're building anything with AI right now, it's very, very easy to just start talking to an LLM and you get excited about how intelligent the answer sound, but then you realize it doesn't know anything about your business. And so then you start trying to figure out ways to dump information into it, so it understands your business, but that runs into all sorts of complexity and limitations in how much you're putting into the context window.
You can get about 1 million tokens into a context window right now. But if you put 1 million tokens in your context window, that's going to be an insanely expensive call that one question is going to generate a ton of tokens and the more you put in there, the more confused your LLM will get. So you have to engineer this way to get the exact context that it needs in the moment, pick the right model and then deliver an answer. And that's what Salesforce can kind of do behind the scenes in that moment. And what gets really interesting in that multiplayer environment and inside of Slack is the one piece of context that nobody is really truly thinking about, well, there are some us and others that we're working with. But the really interesting piece of context is the institutional knowledge of the people in your organization, which is encoded as those conversations inside of Slack.
So we bring that in as well. It's not just your data and your metadata, it's the conversational data as well, which adds all that additional context, and then we engineer a way to bring that all in at the moment that a question is asked, optimize the token spend, and that's really where we think our value is going to be in the future. Hopefully, that answers your question.
30 seconds if someone has a quick one for Patrick. If not, I'll just ask one more. So I just wanted to bring up a recent podcast with Marc Benioff. He mentioned that Salesforce is on track to spend $300 million on tokens from Anthropic this year, a pretty massive amount. Tell us just briefly what that will do for Salesforce in terms of productivity and innovation and maybe even inclusive of the cost implications.
Do you want to see our leaderboards? I can pull them up on Slack right now. We can go through team by team and see who's really using. Yes. I mean it's just been -- honestly, it's been insane in our engineering organization, watching the pace of innovation right now is unbelievable. And there are pockets where it's even more unbelievable. Slack, for example, is just fascinating to watch that team now.
I show up with ideas. And like on Monday, the ideas are in production, which is really -- it's just astounding to watch. But it's going much deeper than that as well because a lot of that -- most of that spend right now is coding, but not all of it. There is a very -- this is what I don't think the market has totally caught up to yet. A very material amount of that spend is just knowledge workers. It's my team in marketing. It's Val's team. It's people in sales. It's people like Miguel that are using it to do their forecasting. They're not coding. They are hooking up the MCP servers and consuming tokens from Anthropic to do their knowledge work. And we think that, that's where the kind of next big wave is going to come from.
Super insightful conversation. Patrick, thanks so much.
Thank you.
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Salesforce — Mizuho Technology Conference 2026
Salesforce setzt auf Agentforce, Headless 360 und Slack-Integration als Wachstumstreiber, Monetarisierung bleibt aber offenkundige Unbekannte.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Fokus: Agentforce (Agentenplattform), Headless 360 und Slack als Schlüssel, um Frontier-Modelle (externe große KI-Modelle) an die Salesforce-Plattform zu binden.
- These: Mehr Nutzung (Tokens/Agentic Work Units) treibt neue Verbrauchsmetriken und potenziell Umsatz, während Salesforce versucht, Vertrauen und Kontext als Alleinstellungsmerkmal zu kapitalisieren.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Agentforce Script: Mikro‑Scripting reduziert Nichtdeterminismus von Large Language Models und ermöglicht zuverlässige Multi‑Step-Workflows, wichtig für regulierte Umgebungen.
- Voice & Produktion: Agentforce Voice produktiv eingesetzt (Salesforce 1‑800 läuft darüber), Signal für Reife im Contact‑Center-Bereich.
- Headless & Content: Headless 360 öffnet APIs für externe Agenten; die Contentful‑Akquisition bringt ein Headless‑CMS zur Stärkung der Marketing‑Cloud.
- Slack: Positioniert als Multiplayer‑Interface für Agenten, erhöht Nachvollziehbarkeit und Vertrauen durch geteilte Kontexte/Prompts.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Agentforce‑Größe: Management nennt ~$1,2 Mrd. Agentforce‑Volumen (aufgestiegen von $800M) und wächst weiter.
- Neue Metrik: Agentic Work Units (AWU) als ergänzende Nutzungskennzahl neben Token‑Verbrauch.
- Monetarisierung: Headless‑Pricing offen; Gedanke an Agent‑User‑Lizenzen und unterschiedliche Modelle (Konsum, Subskription, Enterprise‑LA).
- Token‑Spend: Marc Benioff/Management nennt ~ $300 Mio. erwartete Token‑Ausgaben bei Anthropic in diesem Jahr.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Skalierung: Wann werden breite Kundenbasis und die Mehrheit der 187k Kunden Agentforce in Produktion haben? Management erwartet Beschleunigung H2, aber kein fixer Zeitplan.
- Pricing‑Risiko: Nachfrage nach klaren, prognostizierbaren Kommerzialmodellen (Seat vs. Consumption vs. ELA); Management testet Modelle mit Schlüsselkunden.
- Wettbewerb & Vertrauen: Wie sehr bedrohen Frontier‑Labs die Seats? Antwort: Labs nutzen Salesforce als Backend via Headless; Salesforce sieht Erweiterung, nicht Kannibalisierung.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Starkes Produktmomentum und neue Nutzungs‑KPIs deuten auf nachhaltige Nachfrage hin, doch die fehlende Preisierungs‑Klarheit erzeugt Modellierungsrisiko. Aktionäre profitieren, wenn Salesforce erfolgreich standardisierte, vorhersehbare Monetarisierungsströme für Headless/Agent‑Nutzung etabliert und Enterprise‑Vertrauen skaliert.
Salesforce — 2026 Evercore Global TMT Conference
1. Question Answer
Thanks, everybody. I assume we'll have some folks filtering in after lunch finishes up. But I'm super excited to have Parker Harris with us, Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Salesforce. Just a couple of English majors talking about headless technology, should be good.
So really excited to have you here. So much going on in the industry around agentic, AI, you've been through so many of these cycles. So it will be fun conversations.
Never been through a cycle like this one, but I've seen the cycles.
No. No, I don't think anyone has in terms of the pace and [indiscernible] and just sort of size of it. It's pretty amazing. So why don't we just jump into it. And if you have a question, raise your hand, we try to keep this as interactive as possible.
But -- to your point on cycles, you've been through a bunch. Why -- and we've seen a lot from Salesforce over the last month or so on Headless. Why are you all as a company sort of excited about that as part of the broader AI strategy?
Yes. I think we were surprised that we didn't make it the headline of Dreamforce last year. It was kind of a more recent idea, and we launched it at one of our world tours. And the feedback was just phenomenal, like everyone in the press and then on social and our customers are like, well, this is a brilliant strategy.
And I think what we're most excited about is just meeting customers where they are. We've had APIs to our service forever. But with the rise of -- and it's also kind of related to Claude Code that really hit that tipping point in February, that the first place we thought is Salesforce should just be easier to configure, to implement, to diagnose and why not vibe code it. So that's like the first step. Like let's open everything up Headless, and you can hit it with that. But then if you look at. And Salesforce always follows consumer trends. Like when we started the company, it was about Amazon, the bookseller, when we launched Chatter, was looking at Facebook. And right now, you look at the model companies and commerce, and there's UI coming into these products.
And so part of Headless was also, let's rethink our experience layer, the experience is actually in the Headless layer because you define the user experience and metadata. And we interpret it and we play it out in what we call Lightning. Now that can come to you, but you're not saying what I told you, you should see, you're just telling AI, this is what I want. And so give me my top deals for the quarter. Tell me what trouble tickets or cases that Kirk might ask me about at Evercore, and it paid in that response, beautiful UI, not just a bunch of text. And so it's really the new experience layer. We're seeing customers use it from things like Claude Cowork with OpenAI, ChatGPT, but also from Slack, which I've been spending a lot of time with the past couple of years being a great engagement layer for kind of everything Headless, not just Salesforce but everything in the enterprise.
Okay. We'll definitely talk more about Slack. I guess when you think about the Headless strategy, what does success look like? Is it opening up the TAM again for you in terms of just these people that might not have come through Salesforce traditionally through, say, more of the app layer? Is it -- when you think about where you'd want to be in a year on this strategy, what would you guys think about as success?
I think first and foremost, it's about adoption. So users are moving and they're looking at these new services -- surfaces. Success would be massive adoption of Headless. And I haven't seen the stats of MCPs on the Agentforce side been more close to Slack. But the Slack business unit MCP interface just spiked, we just released it, I don't know, a couple of months ago, and it is just spiked. So the number of people wanting access to that corpus of information is just like. So we're seeing the adoption.
And we're talking a lot internally about what are the monetization strategies for this because I think part of the success is also there is our current monetization like let's just get more license revenue and agent may be talking to Salesforce agentically through Headless, but it's talking as a named user because it needs to get the right data with the right security protocols, the right context for that agentic response. So it's a lot of named users. But there's also opportunities for usage-based pricing. And we're talking to our customers and saying, well, where do they want us to go.
Yes. That makes tons of sense. You mentioned Slack. Let's double-click on that a little bit. Probably one of the products when you think about Salesforce that has perhaps the most network effect to it within your customer organizations. How does that feed into sort of the broader headless strategy? Why is that such a great engagement layer for the agentic enterprise? Can you talk to us about that a little bit?
Well, take Slack where it was most successful when it started before we ever acquired it, was it with engineering. The engineers would take it real great. I'm going to hook it to get for source code control and Jira for my bug tracking and planning and connect it to my monitoring. Give me all the tools, but don't make me leave what they call the flow of work and just work there in context. And what is amazing about Slack is that expanded from engineering groups to all knowledge workers where they're working together and humans all humans at the time before AI, it's like, great, I can work in Slack. And we're just getting more work done. It wasn't just about communications. It was really about work.
Now it's about AI. It's about getting work done with AI, both as my assistant there. So Slackbot being a native one, but also third parties Claude Cowork in there or my Linear agent, if I'm coding, they're all in Slack because -- and they all want to be in Slack. And it's basically where AI-assisted or more and more AI autonomous work is getting done, but it's where humans are working together with AI with each other. And so Slack calls it multiplayer. When I use like a Codex or a Claude Code, that single player. I'm just working myself with it. And then -- but if I wanted to work with other people, Slack is really the best place for that. And so you'll see more things coming where we're opening up more surfaces where when people want to work together, whether they're coding or they're doing knowledge work, they're in Slack.
And by the way, in both Anthropic and OpenAI, like that's all they use, Slack. They have Slack, they have Salesforce. They don't really log into Salesforce because they're sitting in Slack using their models and stuff they've built, sometimes our stuff and working with all of these headless APIs to get their work done.
Has AI given you an opportunity to go back into those customers that might have bought Sales Cloud 10 years ago and say, look, like financial services is a good industry as an example. I guess, it's never been a great Slack industry forever reason. Maybe people are in Bloomberg.
Would you like to buy some Slack?
Our CIO is here. You can pitch them. But I think the idea would be you should rethink this in concert with AI? Is that kind of the message your salespeople are trying to reintroduce it to sort of, again, expand the surface area where you've been? And I guess, have you seen early success on that and maybe financial tough one, but other industries.
Well, let's take sales, for example. So we always try to like use everything ourselves first of all, call it [ dog footing. ] And so the sales manager agent, as an example, is this agent that is built on Agentforce that we have all these leads. We have a lead database, all these prospect leads. And there's a lot that we think aren't valuable, like to call them because you're too expensive as an employee to call them, call these because we think [ these are close ].
But we've taken all the leads. We think or lower value, and we've put them on this -- the sales manager agent, which agentically is having conversations with our customers over Vimo, WhatsApp voice is coming where they maybe call you. But it's not a one-way batch and blast like market automation like, hey, you're interested in Salesforce automation. And see if they clicked and then somebody calls it, it's a multiparty conversation back and forth. So that's an example where we can go back into a customer and say, would you like to close more business without adding more humans we can help you do that. Or the qualified great acquisition, ex Salesforce team came back in recently come to the website and just engaging with the customer on the website as an agent to get that prospect to the right place where maybe they'll even buy or they'll hand off to a human.
And so there's huge opportunities that we have just to go back on the customer base and say, are you in agentic enterprise? Have you found more productivity with AI or not? And if you've not done any of that, we can help you get there.
And you mentioned sort of monetization around the Headless list concept. I mean you guys had the app exchange for a long time, right, for API-based sort of revenue stream. I mean, should we sort of think about that in a similar vein, whereas you can still buy agents directly from Salesforce, you can build within Lightning? Or look, you might be able to build agents on Claude, hit, hit, come in through the MCP server and get data that way. Is that sort of the way we should think about it? And I guess, from your perspective, again, you're just trying to meet the customers where they are. Is that kind of idea?
Yes, so we have an agent exchange and agents can be built an Agentforce, a third parties. They can -- if it's built on an Agentforce, it's not going through MCP. It's just native or third parties can go through the MCP interfaces. Customers are building some themselves, which is totally cool. We're just trying to solve what is that use case they're trying to solve. And is it more sales? Is it happier customers in the service department? Is it lead gen and market automation whatever it is.
And we're going to do our best to provide services that I guess just you can do it, but it's going to be easier or better with us. But we have been true ever since we started the company. When we started the company, -- we call it Salesforce.com. When we started the company, we like we we're probably going to do more than Salesforce Automation, should we pick a different name, didn't pick a different name and people have told us like change your name. But we had Salesforce Automation and then you have customer service with [ Siebel ] or whatever, like, great, we will integrate. And so we always want to where they are and whatever they're doing. But we'll still pitch in these customers, the integrated platform and just all from us, it's going to be easier and probably cheaper for you long term and just cost to maintain and run.
Okay. Agentforce has been out there now for maybe 18 months. And what have you all learned in terms of adoption, sort of removing the friction, what if companies that are seeing real success with it done correctly? And how do you sort of expand that out to the rest of the year....
Who many times the people use the word for deployed engineer exactly...
Plenty.
Plenty. It's a new term and a number of other companies kind of coined that phrase. I think one of the things we learned which is kind of obvious is agentic AI is nondeterministic which we know. And so but you don't want in your call center, like it could do multiple things. We can't tell you exactly what it will do, but we'd like it to -- that's not a great answer is like how is my portfolio doing? Like do you want to give the right answer. You wanted to have the right context.
So what we found is being in the customer, and it's no longer about being in the customer in the sales process and saying, here's a demonstration of what we can do for you is we're like, why don't we build it with you. We have agentic coding now, we can mitigate the entire platform really, really fast. And we want to show you how it's working. And then we want to work with you to make it successful. So that's one thing.
Another thing is that determinism a non-determinism, in the harness of agent force, we started out just saying, well, the models are going to keep getting better. And so when I say do these 10 things in this order, that's great. It will do that. It turns out 9 times out of 10, it does. I want it at 10 times out a 10. And a lot of companies are doing this, we've pulled out some of what is really deterministic logic, which is workflow basically. And we built Agent Script, which is essentially a way and an ICI to basically script out what do you want the agent to do like coming into the website, ask them who they are or have a pilot claim for insurance is a series of steps you need to do. And in each of those steps, some of those could be nondeterministic AI through a LLM, something that kind of interaction, so mixing the 2 together. And that's been really successful is -- and it's actually faster and cheaper because you're not hitting tokens to do some of those things that you really don't need to model for.
And so what we found is, these things are brilliant brains, but you don't use them for everything. And I think what we first did is like, well, great, let's just have to do everything and turns out they're not graded everything.
Yes. And you all have obviously invested in Anthropic and a number of these native AI companies.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. So that's good was a good one.
That's a good one. Yes. Well, we like to sell [ John Somers ], but not enough. You didn't see where it was going enough.
Always too little after...
Too little, too little, yes.
but one of the questions you bring up around this sort of harness and orchestration concept is that where the value has to accrue longer term for companies that want to participate in this genic world, meaning to your point, the base level of intelligence for models will continue to get better over time. So when you think about how you differentiate, how you deliver value to customers, does it need to be your sort of ability to take that brain and then deliver sort of customer value on top of it? And is that -- do you -- and I guess the second part of the question would be like, is that durable? Meaning is that the delta between what of intelligent models, the intelligence, again, will keep get better. Is it durable? Is that sort of value-add at the orchestration level, durable.
Well, I don't think it's just orchestration. It is the -- like everything we're doing is the Headless. Because we're not building the models. We're using multiple models, mixing them for the right use cases, some for performance for cost. And when we say Headless like agent force, the entire ad bores, you can call it, harness because it's basically using these models to do customer service to do sales. We've got orchestration in there. We have telemetry for monitoring. We've got e-vals or testing the output of it can then get used to update the whole configuration the prompts and everything. And so that's hugely defensible. We've always been a CRM company. That's our wire ticker CRM. We will stay in that lane. And we're not trying to be a multipurpose like -- just like use us for any sort of AI. We're going to be CRM enhanced with AI autonomous.
And yes, I do think that's defensible. And we can also take 27 years of our customer base, the implementations, the business logic, the metadata, all of that's already out there. And they're asking us our massive Salesforce are like, hey, take us to the future because we have those trusted relationships. So I think that's also a huge advantage we have. And then we're taking them there. And we keep using these better and better models, but the models don't have the context. And they don't have the context that is secure, like we don't put all the data in the model. It doesn't have the exact right context for the question because if you put too much data to the model, it has a hard time or you spend a ton of money or both. And so all of that I think is kind of a differentiated...
And you mentioned data, obviously, bought Informatica, you had data cloud before that. How important has that been for you all to build a data platform in the back to complement Agentforce?
I mean we can call it context now because it's a cool word. Yes, we built our Data Cloud, which is really 2 things. One is the data platform for collecting data, but also a data activation platform that connects all the other data platforms out there. MuleSoft for API management, Informatica has been an incredible acquisition. It's exceeded our expectations in the first full quarter, yes. So it's been great for the business.
But I think we have too many brands right now, people know these brands, so it's fine. But we were doing customer mastering that's very important. We weren't doing product mastering. So our customers, our financial instrument would be a product, or a car from for whoever. Informatica has an amazing MDM solution for things like product mastering. And if you're an agent and you want to talk to get the right context, you want to get the right context on I'm going to the car website, and I want to buy a car, which car, you want the context, all the contacts for that product. And so mastering that is super important.
And our vision is not that all the data is there is going to take to make that work. It's a logical semantic onto logic, maybe is better where these days layer that combines the metadata of the history of sales force with metadata from Informatica, it hears all these other data sources with metadata from MuleSoft, of -- here's all these other API-connected data sources with Tableau, which is a semantic layer to understand what is the semantic meaning of all this data. All of that comes together and gives us that rich context layer that AI can then use. So it's a huge event. I'm so happy we're able to get Informatica.
Yes. Is connecting data to the agents still the biggest challenge for a lot of your customers in terms of sort of the promise, and the reality right now.
It's not connecting the data, it's the AI shows them where the data is not clean, it's not right. They haven't mastered it. we even found that when we -- I think we were perfect, but [indiscernible], when we stood up our help.salesforce.com Agentforce agent's, they started showing us where -- in our data sources wasn't it wasn't clean, was it quite right. So we had to go and fix that. And we had all the tools, obviously, with our products to do that. And so getting your data right is definitely that first step for any success with AI.
Any questions? I have a bunch more, I'll open it up. Okay. I'll keep going. I think the next one -- trying to think next one. Verticalization for you all and bringing sort of more -- it seems to me like in an AI world, the ability to bring an agent that not only understands the sort of domain and in terms of being a salesperson understands the context and then actually maybe even the nomenclature that goes into a different industry something that might become more valuable over time. I think through AppExchange, you all let some of your -- like Aviva went out and sort of originally did that in pharma.
How do you think about that going forward for you all because I could see having sales agents that are tuned for retail might be different than insurance that might be different from financial services. So I know [ David Schmaier ] spent a lot of time on this topic, and I talk to him a lot about this topic.
I mean shootout to [indiscernible] earlier, former co-CEO he really started the motion to go industry vertical, which originally, our sales engineers would just go and say, sure, I can take Salesforce and I'll just configure it for banking, retail banking or investment banking. But then we realize it's more than just the data model. And so like when you -- everybody is talking about vibe coding your CRM is like, yes, you can create a data model, but it's far more than that. And so I think we have a huge advantage as you go deeper into our product line and you look at our industry verticals, we have a lot of industry vertical business processes built out. We are building out industry vertical Agentforce agent's. And Agentforce skills and topics that you can use in your industry that understand an insurance claim, understand, I know your customer motion in banking, understand like I'm trying to think of other examples, but just to understand all of those.
And instead of handing you a horizontal here you go, it's a toolkit, go at it, we can hit out of the box, and it keeps getting better. And we're exploring with our research group. How do we -- how could we -- might we fine-tune some smaller models that are industry-specific that really underban the business process that industry to make them even smarter.
And that sort of relates to my next question, I think I know the answer will be. But I expect you all believe that this is going to be a multi-model world where you're going to be using the right model for the right action for the -- in the right, again, context. Is that happening already underneath Agentforce, meaning if someone ask a fairly simple question. You don't necessarily need a frontier model, or you might just want an open source model or some -- to your point, a small language model. Is that already going on? And how, I guess, instantaneous is that when you put in a prompt as Agentforce is smart enough to know the context of the question, so I can go to the right model, get the right answer? Or is that still a little bit...
Exactly like that. It's more like the core reasoning loop, the large foundation models are really useful like to reason what you want. To then voice has its own models to do checking on ethics or violations that could be a simpler model. Just understanding the question of what did they -- were they asking and parsing it out in the right way, can be a smaller model. And so we're -- the first step is not like a cost optimization. It's like let's choose the right model for the use case because often, it's a performance thing like I don't need to run through 1 trillion parameter model due to the simple use case and by the way, it can be expensive and it's going to take too long.
And so quality is the first step, but then performance and cost will be the next to you. And so we're mixing models all over. And we can do it at run time. We can mix and match. I think we will head in the future, we will look at should we have fine-tuned models per customer for some of those use cases that maybe we're dynamically updating the models from each customer, like we wouldn't mix the data. So that's another idea.
And finally, like we're always looking at, well, what's the next frontier model that what can it give me? And will the next Anthropic model or OpenAI, 2 biggest ones, but -- we also look at companies like Mistral that we're invested in and Cohere and other model companies who look at what do they have. We've shied away from the Chinese model for various reasons, a lot of which are -- we sell a lot to the U.S. government.
Right. Maybe you could help me with the question I get a lot, which is there's obviously going to be some workflows that are deterministic, meaning if you have a policy around CPQ, you can't just model come up with sort of guest. It can't be -- how does that get integrated? You mentioned maybe it's the agent script point you made earlier about like how do you start mixing in the benefits of both probabilistic models, but also within sort of the parameters of having deterministic outcomes to some degree. You can't have salespeople being like, all right, like close enough on discount...
Yes. I think one of the best examples is a company called Regrello that we launched, which I thing is called Agentforce Operations?
Operations.
Yes. We never changed the names of our products but it at design time uses AI heavily. So trying to understand the business process of a corporation that's not written down. It's like, well, oh, you want to give a discount on professional services. That's actually an internal example where -- we wanted to -- for a customer, I want to give them highly discounted professional services in the deal for the implementation.
Oh, well, to do that, you need approval from these 3 humans. You need to go on these 4 systems. And it can look at all the data you could draw a diagram, you can parse it or you can look at some of the e-mails that are going around. And it's using AI to understand, well, what is the real human business process, but then it takes that and it turns it into workflow because at run time, it doesn't need to be the AI running that process. It's like, first, I'm going to ask Kirk for an approval to be an e-mail and then when he really says, yes, but I'm going to go to this person to make sure the system -- and it's obvious what it is, but figuring that out, we acquired in an agenetic process.
And so I think more and more, you're going to see that. And so like companies like Dell are like, well, we're saving a ton of money. We used to call it supply chain was the first here we use because they use it in their supply chain area, but it was just simplifying their internal business processes significantly.
We obviously talk a lot about agentic. And I feel like we're sometimes in a little bit of a bubble when we talk about this in the industry. When you go out and talk to CIOs or you're talking to some of your bigger partners, I mean, how early are we? I feel like everybody wants the agentic enterprise tomorrow, but when you go out and talk to customers.
I think we're really early. I mean, we're still super early. Right now, the hot area that's getting automated, it's customer service. That's where you see a lot of little start-ups. That's where we're playing. And then in collaboration with Slack and Slackbot and see Claude Cowork as an example, obviously, coding is a huge area. But yes, I mean those are the areas that we see right now.
Okay. And any industry you think that's farther ahead, the ones that are more regulated, seem to be obvious, that will take a little while longer in certain functions.
I think it's more like the CIO. It's more of the leadership of the company, are they leaning in or not? I was just in France. I was meeting with the [ Adecco ] which is a big recruiter. And they're going all in, they source temporary labor contractors to corporations of all sizes. And I went out to one of their recruiting offices because I wanted to see our software and use. And so they were using Einstein for sales. So that's machine learning. So just like just help me understand the score some leads and score the this candidate and is this a good candidate, matched this candidate with the right thing. So that's machine learning. Then it was using Agentforce to that outbound to have an interaction with a candidate. But it was because Pierre Matuchet, the CIO is an amazing CIO, and he's forward leaning and he's going all in, and he's figuring it out.
And so I think it's -- and then it's about like are you taking the right problem to solve and there's a lot of DIY out there that some has worked a lot has failed. I mean that's selfishly saying, let us help you. So that's another thing we're seeing. But it's still super early. And I think with AI, the demonstrations are so compelling, we think everyone is doing it, and we all have this fomo, well, I got to do it. And that's why a year ago, every CEO said, everybody do AI. And everybody bought various tools and do stuff. And now we're seeing more consolidation and more use case by use case success.
One thing I forgot to ask when we're talking a Headless earlier in the conversation is, it seemed to be that Headless in a market that's moving this fast lets the customer understand that they have optionality with you, meaning you're not boxing them in, and I'd imagine at a time where a lot of CIOs frankly, aren't sure in which way they might want to go 2 or 3 years from now that's actually a benefit, meaning I can count on you all to be flexible with me because every organization is going to have to be somewhat flexible in an AI world.
It's resounded incredibly well, and we just want to meet people where they are and where they are is moving. And we have built user experiences for 27 years. We think -- and you can customize them, but we think this is the first version that makes the most sense for you for sales, service. And maybe the future is not that at all and how I interact with enterprise solutions is going to be personalized just for me. And maybe it's not me, it's my agent or agents. I mean, you look at how people are coding, they're managers of agents now, like, rate the spec and test it and do.
I think every job function will move in that direction. And we want to meet the customer where they are. So what surface do you want to do that? And what user experience do you want? If you want to vibe code a new UI for part of Salesforce, go for it. And you can use parts of what you've already configured and you can build your own. If that's valuable to you, great. If you want to use it and have it surface in these other tools, great. if you want to be multiplayer and have multiple [indiscernible] working together, we still think Slack is the best. If you want to use Teams, many people have Teams, obviously, I think Slack is way better. we will help you use Teams as a service. And I think the world is moving so fast, we can't predict where it's going to be -- we all have to be super flexible and super fast and move with the same pace.
You've obviously been at Salesforce since the beginning. Are you pleased with the agility. I mean it's a big company. So to move -- I think there's sometimes a view of like inhibitor dilemma or those kind of things with companies. But do you feel good about the level of velocity that's going on...
I credit Marc Benioff. I think he is an incredible entrepreneur. And he's like, he's talked about a inhibitor dilemma, we have to go rethink how we're organized a -- should we when we think about forward deployed engineers, we have sales engineers. Well, what's the different -- if we're not building demos, how should we think about that? Should we deploy them more out into where the business is happening. And so Headless, yes, let's go all in on it. And so I'm very pleased with the rate of change that we're driving. We have an internal process called the V2MOM that helps us stay a line, and we just keep rewriting it because it keeps changing.
But that's how tone from the top, change, try some things, don't be afraid to fail, and that's coming from Marc, and then use that V2MOM process to say like we're changing now. Now everybody we're at, here's how we need to align. But it's never perfect. I just talked to some of the leadership in our technology and product organization, like they're asking how do we take more chances and do more. So we've got to keep hammering on it.
Yes. You're obviously very in the weeds on all the tech. And just out of curiosity, what's the sort of idiosyncratic thing that you guys have broken through on more recently that perhaps only you would find it interesting, but I'm kind of curious what you're spending time on, maybe that's in the bells of the technology, whether it's data, governance model.
A lot of it has been for me personally has been in the Slack business unit. And the breakthroughs I'm seeing is, how do you think about multiplayer Claude Code where multiple people are working together with AI to build something. And that could also be Cowork, or it could be Codex or it could be linear.
So it's a breakthrough of thinking about, well, Slack as the channel-based experience you're doing work together. And it's all human based, and we're bringing agents in and what if that agent is building code or writing an S-1 to go for it. Maybe Anthropic, using Anthropic to rates on that would be interesting. But how do we do that together? And so what is that experience? What's the identity of the agent, who like -- and how do you bring it all in together. And so it's not -- maybe it's not the sexiest answer of like, oh, we've figured out this identic loop for that. But it's really more of the user experience. And I think change happens at the user experience layer.
When Steve Jobs launched the iPhone is like, well, the world has changed because of the experience, the battery didn't last day, the outport may be the best, but it was the experience. And so if you think of the company, we're really leaning in harder on what is the experience of the future, and we're trying a lot of ideas, in Slack how -- what is the experience of many people working together with AI.
And is that pretty much the operating environment at Salesforce now? It's everybody in Slack? Is that...
100%. We all in Slack. We're all using Slackbot. I mean Slackbot as an agentic agent helping people, the adoption rate is the fastest I have ever seen of any feature we built. And it's helping everybody get their jobs done, and it's phenomenal. And so everybody is like, we now have just we had a big -- we have lots of meetings -- we just had a big meeting in Las Vegas -- Los Angeles with our top 500 people. And we launched internally Tableau Analytics in Slack, but implemented for every -- all of our regions and all of our sellers, so they can run their business like instead of going into Tableau or into Salesforce or something they built themselves pulling data out and putting it in Excel got for a bit. They're just living in Slack, running their book of business and what's my pipe for the quarter? What are my top deals, what I have closed so far, who has trouble? That's all happening in Slack with Tableau tied to all the data.
And it's a great use case to go to sell because they could say like, hopefully, they're not showing everything, but Kirk, let me show you how I'm running my business at Salesforce, and here it is. And it's a really compelling way to tell.
Yes. That was my next question, actually, which was, it was a reference selling, software choice but reference, anything in the [indiscernible] is reference selling.
I mean certainly selling Salesforce automation, if you're a salesperson [indiscernible] use our tools. It's very easy.
And do you think that Slack but what you showed to customers kind of changes their perception perhaps about there -- where you can go with your technology?
Yes. [indiscernible] the team shop where they're like that. We don't need another chat tool. And we're like, yes, but can I do this? And they're like, oh, wow, and it's tied to Salesforce. And we have Salesforce channels and Slack, all the data is there and Tableau Analytics, all my work. Everything is there. It changes how they think. But we have more work to do there.
Anything in particular you think you have more work to do?
I think we have more work to do on both enabling with our teams of like telling that story and coexist with Microsoft Teams. Like in Slack, you can now join Teams Meetings, It can -- you can MCP to the team's data Black Box could use that data if you're working -- also working in Teams. But people -- most customers I talk to, they're not working in Teams. They're using Teams for video and they're using Teams for direct messaging, which is a little bit of work, but they're not really working together deeply on something. And so -- but we have more work to do on and getting some IP out there.
Just because I think it gets off a little bit. I mean, I think Marc talked about Slack getting the $10 billion at some point in time. What's the -- is the monetization sort of thought process behind Slack changed at all because of this?
Yes. Yes. So the monetization is still very much license based. We move you up in the additions. And so you want more access and more Slackbot, you move up in addition. So that's a typical motion really successful. It's one of our best executing business units. But we also see opportunities for some additional usage-based pricing to come out, which we haven't been out yet, but we're talking about working on, everyone wants their Slack corpus of data. All our partners want access to the APIs, the [indiscernible] products because now with agentic AI the intelligence you can derive from all of the unstructured data in Slack and the messages, the files, all the collaboration is a huge asset. And that's what you can see in Slackbot, but maybe one of these some other tools. And so we can monetize that as well the access to all that.
Yes, pretty amazing amount of context from a business is in Slack for a lot of them.
It's shocking, yes.
I got one more, unless anybody else has a question. All right. All right. Kind of an open-ended one, sort of maybe a softball to some degree. But yes, what's -- if you guys win in agentic enterprise, right, what would you view as success over the next couple of years? Like, obviously, adoption, you mentioned it earlier. Is it Slack becoming -- from a lot of your customers becoming the operating system for them is that what are the I don't know, KPIs to some degree that you're keeping an eye on to know that you're right track around agentic...
I would like to see Slack become the interface for getting work done for sure. And I think we are well on our way to that. I think success is also that you can clearly see how the enterprise has changed with a combination of human workers and digital workers and that's reflected in our solutions, making that possible, but it's also reflected in our numbers where you're seeing like, okay, that's amazing. This company is so much more productive because 1/3 or half of the workforce is digital labor and AR investors can see and that value is now seen in these mix of license and consumption-based revenue. And I think -- we're still on the evolution to consumption-based revenue. You see it. We've had it. Marketing Cloud has had for years. Agentforce is doing really, really well. Data Cloud is doing, you know.
But I want to see that like really clear in the market, and it's not just our pricing and our revenue there, but what has it done to the customer base? Like how does that show up where, wow, your call centers have the size and those people are now doing other higher-level jobs, and your customers are happy. And by the way, it's also a revenue-generating center because everything is blending now. It's like this was true before with the agents that they don't care if I'm a service agent, but I could also tell you like, I could upsell you on something. So that's kind of the future I see.
Agentic work units, is a something you are keeping an eye on.
Yes, it's -- we really were trying to move away from tokens. I mean, because tokens are not a great measurement of did something really get done...
Not really, token has value.
This is how much we've paid model providers and helps with their like it's kind of like leaderboards for vibe coding and what's your -- are you token maxing and who's using the most tokens to vibe code. And if you read about that, people say, well, that's a terrible metric because people are just going to try to use the most tokens and it's not really a right metric for output. And so AWS is definitely the right metric. We're trying to tie Slack to that metric as well as that drives a lot of agentic work units. And then from agentic work units to outcome also.
Great. Yes, we're right at time. Parker, thanks very much for being with us.
Thanks. Really appreciate it. Thank you for having me.
Thanks a lot. Thanks, everybody.
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Salesforce — 2026 Evercore Global TMT Conference
Salesforce treibt eine "Headless" Plattform und agentische KI (Agentforce) voran, mit Slack als zentrale Oberfläche für menschliche+digitale Zusammenarbeit.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce setzt auf eine Headless-Architektur, Agentforce (agentische KI) und Slack als Multiplayer-Engagement-Layer, um CRM-Prozesse mit Kontextdaten und Mixed‑Model‑Orchestrierung zu automatisieren und Kunden "dort abzuholen, wo sie sind".
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Headless: Neue Experience‑Schicht trennt UI von Backend; Lightning interpretiert Metadaten, erlaubt individuelle Oberflächen und direkte AI‑Interaktion.
- Agentik & Workflow: Agentforce kombiniert nondeterministische Modelle mit deterministischen Skripten (Agent Script) für zuverlässig steuerbare Prozesse.
- Data & Integrationen: Data Cloud plus Informatica (MDM) liefert den kontextuellen Daten‑Mastering‑Layer; MuleSoft/Tableau integrieren APIs und Semantik.
- Multi‑Model: Laufzeitmix verschiedener Modelle (kosten/Perf./Qualität), Zukunft: feingetunte Modelle pro Use‑Case/Kunde.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Update: Informatica übertraf laut Harris die Erwartungen im ersten vollen Quartal; Slack‑MCP‑Interface und interne Slack‑Adoption zeigen deutliche Nutzungszunahmen. Es gab keine neuen finanziellen Guidance‑Zahlen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Datenqualität: Kernhürde ist nicht die Verbindung, sondern saubere, gemasterte Daten; Agenten offenbaren Lücken in den Quellen.
- Monetarisierung: Diskutiert werden Named‑User‑Lizenzen versus nutzungsbasierte Modelle; Salesforce prüft beide Wege für Agent/Slack‑Erlöse.
- Determinismus vs KI: Kritik/Zweifel an nondeterministischen Antworten gelöst durch Agent Script und hybride Workflows; Details zur Breite der Umsetzung offen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Strategisch sinnvoller Kurs: Salesforce kombiniert seine CRM‑Datenbasis, Integrations‑Stack und Slack‑Netzwerke mit agentischer KI. Potenzial für neue, konsumptionsbasierte Erlösströme und höhere Produktivität; kurzfristig bestehen Risiken bei Adoption, Datenaufbereitung und der konkreten Monetarisierung.
Salesforce — Bank of America 2026 Global Technology Conference
1. Question Answer
Thanks very much for coming. I was looking forward for this session today because Miguel and I had a terrific discussion after the company reported numbers, he's convinced I'm wrong with my rating, and he's going to prove me wrong. And I'm very open for the challenge.
So as you know, I'm new to cover software being covering cybersecurity for 20 years and networking for 30 years. And I always say that lately, I'm the garbage person at Bank of America, garbage not from a person of quality, meaning everything -- every time someone leaves, they tell me, okay, you cover it. So I cover everything else basically. That's going to change soon, but software is my focus, networking is my focus.
And I want to start with a few things before we start -- I want to start with outlining the background for the discussion. We have 30 minutes to discuss and we're going to talk strategy. We're not going to talk about the quarter. I don't care about the quarter. I talk about -- I care about where is this company positioned for the next 10 years.
Salesforce today is a much bigger company than it was 7 years ago. And the growth decelerated. The growth in the last quarter with professional services, 7%, 7.1%, without 7.7%, it used to be 30%. It used to be 20%. And that's before AI. We're not talking about AI. AI might be a tailwind, might be a headwind, right? So what I want to understand is the reasons for the deceleration, the risks that we see in AI, the opportunities that we see in AI, and how the company is positioned to basically address the opportunities because the whole discussion of this quarter, by the way, for me, it was the first time I do a quarter call for Salesforce, and the whole discussion was about AI. The whole 1.5 hours was about AI. So I want to understand AI, and that's the purpose of our discussion.
So with that, Miguel, thank you very much for coming, and thank you very much for taking the time to educate me because I need this kind of education.
And I want to start with big strategic positioning. No, I'm not giving you kind of direction with my question. I want to ask you, what do you want to highlight when it comes to the opportunity to accelerate growth over the next few years? What are the initiatives that you think will drive higher growth in the future.
First of all, thank you for having me. I will actually very much looking forward to these conversation, we sort of [indiscernible] the eyes a little bit. Can you hear me? The mic. It doesn't seem to be, if it's working?
No. All done. He's fixing it.
Feel is not working very well. Can you hear me at the back?
He's been something new.
Hello, hello. Okay. So listen, so first of all, I think since earnings is -- I've done like 10 analyst meetings. This is the one conference that I wanted to come to. You have the analysts that I wanted to meet you face to face. I've talked a lot about you. You stated about the company. I actually was very curious to understand when I saw your price target. I mean, I'm the Head of Sales and the Chief Revenue Officer, but I also started finance. I started financial engineering, financial management at MIT. I understand valuations and I was curious to get to know you. And then when I read -- I like. So I have a lot of respect for you. By the way, you are very smart. A lot great experience. You have listen, you haven't eaten a lot [indiscernible] but listen, first of all [indiscernible].
Of course, we have -- we bought a company last year that was like with the inorganic growth and we grew 13% revenue, 14% CRPO, we generated $6.7 billion of cash flow, not bad in 1 quarter. I mean there are companies that you like a lot that in 1 year, they don't generate that cash flow. There are companies that publish results the same day amazing results. We like that company. I think there are a lot of people here in San Francisco. And the whole revenue for the whole year is not even the cash flows of Salesforce. But let me...
But I'll stop it for a second because it's a conversation. In the last 2 weeks, we had a rally and the rally in software you are lagging behind. Your stock went up 3%, the others went up 30%. So something in your message doesn't get across to investors. And the fact is it's not us, that's the stock behavior. So investors are concerned. And the question is, where are they wrong? Meaning, what are the growth opportunities that you see in front of you that could prove...
Let me answer the question, but I also need to address some of the inaccuracies. So we the store went up 8.5% on Friday, it went 9.7% yesterday Monday, basically the same as they [indiscernible] or ServiceNow, et cetera. So I don't know where you get the 2%...
It was since the beginning of the year. So it went down, in the last the last role, right?
So listen, we -- our business is for 2 or 3 years, nobody really knew whether Gen AI first, then AI than Agentic was going to be a tailwind or a headwind for enterprise over companies. The world was divided. We -- I joined the company in 2011, they left for 3 years and then came back 3 years ago to be the President and Section 16 Officer and Head of revenue. And I mean, we were, I would say, cautiously paranoid about what could be happening. Last year, we saw it very clear. AI is a massive win for our business. We were competing in a crowded market where we are the absolute leader in a category, SaaS CRM. We've been doing that for 27 years. And we have amazing growth when we are small. But then when you -- as you grow, as you grow, as you grow, the growth starts being a bit more difficult and it's a multi-hundred billion TAM market.
All of the sudden AI is doing several things for us. So first of all, everybody loves AI. Everybody loves the AI labs. The intelligence utility is incredible. But in the enterprise, to convert that intelligence into proactive work, there are a lot of things that need to happen. You need to have the deterministic workflow. You need to have the right context for the data, you need to have the compliance, the government, the permission sharing. That [indiscernible] infrastructure that we built over 27 years is the big difference between beautiful AI for the consumer and productive AI for the enterprise.
So we are very well positioned. AI is making our products easier to implement, easier to use, easier to enrich and put data into and easier to consume. So it is making our different clouds more valuable for our customers. And then AI is giving us -- is opening a door of a multi-trillion, multitrillion TAM market, which is the digital labor. So today, we had the SaaS market, people continue, by the way, the number of seats, the number of salespeople, the number of service people still continue to grow. We can later talk about what happens if it start declining. We can talk about that because for some companies, in some industries, at some point, the number of seats may decline, okay? But forget about that for 1 second.
In addition to that, which is our traditional business that was decelerating, all of a sudden, you have an opportunity to monetize AI in different ways. First of all, the existing sets, we are upgrading them to our higher-end SKUs, which we call it Agentforce One Edition, Agentforce for Facility, Agentforce for Service. Every time we do that, on average, we do anywhere between 60% and 80% uplift. That's pretty big. And customers are very happily paying because now they have access to all the agentic capabilities of our product.
The second way that we monetize AI is because AI has made our software easy to implement, easy to enrich and easy to consume through conversation, then there are more seats available to us. If you look at our last earnings, 7 of the top 10 deals were customers that found new people, new humans to use our licenses or more licenses. It's the opposite. People think that AI is going to reduce licenses, so far, it's increase in licenses.
And then the third way to monetize, which is probably is 50% of the monetization that we do is what we call Flex Credits. So we basically, for customer-facing use cases of agents, those agents need fuel. So we charge them with fuel. We call them Flex Credits. And we put enough in the time so that they get going. Sometimes they buy for the next 3 years, sometimes they buy for the first 6 months. And then customers come and refill the tank. So we are seeing an explosion of Agentforce, which is one of the main drivers. Our core clouds now are better, so they are growing also, and they're growing healthily.
Then you have products like Slack that is exploding. And then we run a very diversified portfolio of products. And every quarter, there are some products and geographies and industries that they don't perform that well. But when you look at our numbers and the most important thing is, the [indiscernible] is net new bookings. So you sell new bookings, and then the net is because there are customers that are treated. Our attrition levels are decelerating and our bookings level are increasing. The difference, which is the [indiscernible] is accelerating. And we saw that last year after a great Q2, the best Q3 ever, the best Q4 ever, the largest Q1 ever that we just did, then the net NAV is accelerating significantly and is growing more than the AUV. And when the lines crossed and they crossed last year, the cross in H2 last year, they continue to surpass the net NAV growth continues to surpass the AUV growth in H1. That is when AOV accelerates organically. And that's what happened.
That's why we committed a month ago, with less visibility, but with a lot of conviction, we committed that the revenue was going to be accelerated in H2, and it's going to reaccelerate. In parallel, Informatica, the revenue on a on an organic basis is reaccelerating significantly. And then we are many other places that we can monetize, and we can talk about that later.
What is the core value of Agentforce? Meaning what do you bring with AI to customers. And you touched on it at the beginning. Why would they use your offering versus going and trying to develop it on their own. And I'm just talking generically.
Yes. Listen, Probably, I remember when we started, there was a website. I don't use it anymore, but remember, there were like 20 agentic platforms. And then 6 months later, this was 2 years ago, there were 150. Probably today, there is 10,000 agentic platform. There are 10,000 ways, there was 1,000 companies that offer a platform that you can build agents, okay? So why would you build agents with Agentforce and not with all the platforms.
So first of all, Agentforce has a number of advantages. Think of in Agentforce like an opinionated hardness or commercial use cases. So where you have direct access to the context of your CRM because it's surfaced through that harness. You have access to the hundreds, sometimes thousands of flows that customers have developed in their orgs, because when a customer implements Salesforce, what they do is they qualify their standard operating procedures in our software, and they build flows. We have a full -- they build workflows and all the workflows, it's like a library of workflow. They're available in their org. Agentforce has native access to those flows. Agentforce can easily hand over to humans back and forth. Basically, that's one of the biggest differentiators, customer, you cannot do that with other platforms. Agentforce is embedded. Agentforce allows you to choose whatever LLM you want to be on the back end. If you use -- and then Agentforce has many other advantages, and has 29,000 customers, which means that nobody in the world has the amount of customers that we have, which means that we've learned.
Our Agentforce for today, the platform, is 1,000x better than it was 2.5 years ago when we launched it. The same way that some of our competitors have increased improved. But when you have 20,000 customers across many industries, geographies, you learn a lot. By the way, some big CEOs and big personalities in the industry, they would tell you that, that agentic layer is going to be commoditized, okay? The good news is, be my guest, build agents on another platform. I want more agents. Agents are users that use platforms at a high scale. We started saying the world of AI is humans and agents working together. We changed our tag line in the company. now is humans, agents, leveraging platforms working together.
And the beautiful thing is, if you don't build your identic layer or your specific agents typically, companies use several agentic layers to build different agenting use cases in the company. That's okay. Because if you want to attach to customers, you will most likely go through our platforms. And that's other big thing that is happening. This is the one more thing like Steve Jobs. That is our Headless 360 strategy that we just launched. Every part.
Okay. So then you can ask a question.
Go ahead here. Yes. Because for me, probably the most exciting thing that we have and it's on top of what we guided.
Why is Headless different than the regular agentic opportunity? Maybe for the basics for those that don't know the company and don't know the space of Headless, why is headless different? Why is it growing? You spoke about it also on the call on the conference call. Why is headless growing the TAM.
Yes. So growing Headless can significantly or will significantly expand the TAM. We are still not factoring any of that in our H2 revenue reacceleration or in the profitable growth [indiscernible] $63 billion and Rule of 50, which is good news for investors okay? So what is different? It's a fundamental difference, before our software, by the way, most enterprise over where a full stack with the database, the workflows and the permission in everything and then we put the identic layer on top. So customers pretty much if they wanted to build agent workflows on Service Cloud, they need to do it reinforced.
Now we decouple all those layers, and we've exposed everything and we wrap them with MCP servers. So you can access the data. You can access the workflows, you can access even Agentforce, you can access lag through MCP service, which means that anyone, anyone, anywhere in any surface. I mean, many of you may be working on Slack great. You can access our [indiscernible]. Many of you may use Cowork, okay? It's very popular now. I use Cowork myself. Well, you use codec or you use another platform. So now you can use our software. In fact, I like to be controversial like you. And people are saying, okay, but people are going to vibe code this CRM. And we've been saying for a long time, that's not going to happen. People are not going to vibe code this CRM, because then they have to buy operate them and then maintain them. And now I say the opposite. I think people are going to vibe code this CRM. That's the future.
They're going to [indiscernible] because they want, those components that are already secured, they are trusted that the uptime is the right thing that you can respect permissioning, et cetera. So it's humongous. It's so big that we are afraid of we need to -- we are very cautiously we're talking and working with our biggest customers, our biggest partners to find the right monetization strategy because our #1 value remains customer success. We don't want to introduce -- we don't want to either say like our friends from Germany, oh, no, nobody access our platform or other companies that try to really take advantage of the opportunity. We just want to do something that is fair.
If you are using our platform in a way that wasn't meant to be because a human being used to the platform maybe engage with the platform. I mean, if you're in a call center, maybe 50 times a day, if you are a salesperson, maybe is 10 times a week, if all of the sudden, there is an agent doing that on behalf of a person or on behalf of an organization and a success in the platform 1,000x more. Well, first of all, our cost to serve, I mean, we'll go through the roof, so we need to monetize that, and we're working again, and every conversation we're having is incurrent constructive, [indiscernible] understanding, and it's going to be a huge opportunity for the future.
Got it. Agentforce grew like 20% year-over-year this quarter. It grew 50% sequentially. Where are we, two questions. Number one, how do you help customers adopt it? Meaning you spoke about flex spending. Can you talk about the program? What is flex spending and how does it help adoption?
And number two, where are we in the deployment cycle, meaning when you talk to your -- you have so many customers, 20,000 customers, when you talk to your customers, do you need to convinced you need to educate them about Agentforce? Do you see deployment? Or is it really at the beginning? I'm trying to understand where are we not from a technology point of view, but from a market readiness point to deploy Agentforce.
I think that's another piece of good news. I mean I'm very, very, very close to where the agentic action is happening. I'm talking to I'm very curious to intellectually to understand what is this new trend. And I would say that customers overall, forget about Agentforce, across the board, they are in a nascent period in the agentic transformation. We put -- we've done one thing that is very cool, working with external consultants. They are working with our expertise of 83,000 people and 150,000 customers. We've mapped what would be -- how would every customer in every industry. So we -- I think we [indiscernible] 17 different industries. And in every industry, we look at the top workflows and for each workflow, how the workflow will be identified. And then we come up with agentic use cases. And then we map them and then we create a library of agentic use cases with a lot of information what data they need, what do they do permissioning, got rails, et cetera.
So every time that I talk to a customer, I put a slide with anywhere between 120 and 180 use cases of agents. It's overwhelming. I call the eye chart across the workflow. They understand the workflow. I then pick up a few examples on how the process works today and how they would work with agents. But then I tell them, listen, I know the company is not ready to do that because companies need to be ready. You need to have the change management, but also you need to have the data. You need to have the legal checks and balances on any identic use cases. And I always position what we call the hero agents, the 5, 10 use cases that are powerful that I know are easy to implement.
And customers today, they are probably in the first 2, 3, 4 initial use cases of a at least of 100 and 120. So they're in very early stage. Every company, the first thing that they realize is the data is not ready. There is not enough and the quality is not there. is not clean. It's not connected, it's not been leveraged sometimes. And by the way, that's why we invest in Informatica. That's why we created this layer at the bottom, we call the Data 360 layer, or the Data Foundation layer. That is a combination of Informatica, [ Meso ] and Data Cloud is a $7.5 billion business growing double digit. And it's going to be a big differentiator for Salesforce because everything starts with the data.
And then if you have the right data, the right context, agents are not going to do ship. And this is where everybody starts. I think, every time that I tell the story, I get very well prepared for the earnings and go and go to the top 100 use cases of customers. And I get surprised because I have the same names that I talked about 3 months ago, oh, but they only had 1 agent, now they have 5 or they only have 1 million AWEs, now they have 10 million. It's live. It's an exponential acceleration. That's why the AWE use that at the end is a metric that you need to follow very closely. -- because it's real productive work, and I can walk you in a different context exactly at what -- how we measure AWE is because this is real work, it's not just taken.
That is exploding, we grew double the AWU quarter-on-quarter, 7x Q1 versus Q1. And it's -- we are just -- I think in 5 years will be probably 500x more consumption than we are today. It's that big, and we are solely in the game. And it's everyone.
Do customers feel comfortable with pricing? Meaning the whole industry goes from seat-based pricing to consumption-based pricing. How do you help your customers to make the transition?
I love you. Because we -- I have like 10 or 12 questions that your team has told my team that maybe you may be asking, and this is the first one in the list. So Thank you.
Perfect. Perfect. So the question list is just to -- I just want to make sure that I don't run out of questions.
Everything else is actually I was going to tell you at the beginning ask me anything, seriously. There's nothing to hide. So pricing has been fascinating, to see what's happened with pricing. We had listen, no idea. We were probably the least sophisticated company in terms surprising because we were selling by seat. That was our only metric basically on the pricing until 2 years ago. Then we launched a in Agentforce, and we launch it for with -- we thought we were very negative conversations. What is the conversation? Well, we don't know, but it sounds good. And it's -- then we defined it in the contract like the back and forth between a customer and agent over 24 hours, okay?
And then very soon we realized, okay, $2 per conversation, is that too much [indiscernible]. So fast forward 2 years, we are meeting customers where they are in their agentic journey. We are highly sophisticated. I mean what I'm saying is that more customers want predictability. So we have two ways to show predictable pricing. One is for internal use cases for human users of our licenses. We upgrade them to the genic version, which is the higher the premium version, typically with a 60% to 80% uplift and then they have unlimited access. We meter, but for them, we don't have meter. So no matter what they use, they pay the same. They like that a lot. In fact, those SKUs that are now is a multi-hundred probably as or $80 billion business, is growing 60%, okay?
And then the customers that want, okay, but I want to have customer-facing agents, because have a demand plan of agents are going to deploy 20 different customer-facing agents and they're going to be consuming credits and data, et cetera. So we build a demand plan. You're going to need all these credits, all this data. And the customer said, what if it's very successful and well, it's going to be more. Yes. But what if it's not successful, it's going to be less. Okay, I'm going to fluff. So we do the ILS -- unlimited the agentic enterprise license agreement, which essentially is unlimited, we fix the price, we still meter to give the information to the customer, but it's unlimited. And sometimes, customers win. And when customers win, we always win because then the renewal comes and then the customer is -- have deployed 10 agents out of 100. So okay, they want in the first 10. But at the end, we don't want to win or lose. We just want to have a fair business with a fair margin, and that's what customers want from us.
And it's predictable, it's beautiful. There are customers that are putting their toe in the water and they don't -- they just want to say, okay, I don't want to pay anything. I just want to pay when the agents consume perfect, as you go [indiscernible]. And there are other customers that say, Okay, I think I'm going to buy 1 million credits. And then you can use it in 2 years. Okay. So we are meeting customers. They are the last thing, particularly enough because we deploy some out-of-the-box use cases like agents or operations agents. And now we can price per business metric based on value. I'm telling you, I lot of business value. When I've done business value pricing in the past, we've made a lot of money.
And then customers maybe share business value, but then at the end, they say, no, I want something flat. But we are Today, we have like 10 ways to price Agentforce or agentic. But if the customer wants an 11 or 12, we'll do it too because we are all learning together. And at the end, I want the best for the customer.
Got it. We have 2 minutes left, and I don't want to completely dominate the meeting. Is there any question from the audience? Just raise your hand, we have a microphone, sure. Do we have a microphone for the audience?
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[indiscernible] Yes. Premium, which typically means their pilots. Let me start with the end in Q1 in the top 10 deals, that represented $800 million of bookings and representing 2.5x more than the Q1 last year. In those $800 million, there were 3 deals that were pilots, that were successful pilots, and then went into production with a very large deal. They made out of 90,000 transactions, they may be the top 10. So they were good.
So what -- I think the -- what makes it work is having the data having the legal frameworks in place, legal is important. Legal needs to be part of the whole thing because there is a new thing about liability, share liabilities. It's -- now these agents are doing what humans you to do work many times with customers, which is what from a legal perspective, you need to cover that. And then the business value needs to be there. Then the reason that there is a change management that is very important. Typically, the good successful pilots are those where you are on top of the agent, and you are on a daily basis, understanding that's why an agentic layer, a powerful agentic layer is important to do the right testing, the right monitor and the right observability. You're listening to what the agents are doing and real-time changing and because otherwise, the agents drift.
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Yes. So for us or for the customer? Both. So I mean one of the beautiful things about this new capability. I mean we -- for 27 years, we've been buying and either organically or organically, we've been adding new capabilities through our Customer 360 Suite, we add in Marketing Cloud, and we are Analytics, and we have it. Every time that we added capability, we were able to monetize the customer another 10% or 20% more, okay? The beautiful thing about these new agentic capabilities when customers start the agentic journey with us. They all of a sudden, they use our software in a step change of how they use our software in a totally different way. And that gives us the opportunity and again, the fair opportunity to monetize them in a also a step change.
So when customers start the journey after the initial pilot, the first bite of the apple, we increased our -- they increase their spend with us by 50% or even 100%, they double. And then we see, on average, those the customers that are fully advanced, there are 3, 4 times the original AOV before they started the agentic journey with us, 3 to 4 times. Again, we started this when we were a $40 billion ARR company, more or less, now we have $46 billion or a little bit less than $40 billion.
So if we get every single one of our customers to start their identic journey with us because every customer is starting their agenting journey. The question is, are they going to do it with us or with somebody else? I think we are very well positioned so that we are the chosen platform for them to become agentic, at least in the front office. And when they do that, their revenue with us goes up 3 or 4x, which is beautiful.
For the customer, the ROI, every use case is different. But Typically, the ROI of an agent is much higher than the ROI of the equivalent human. What you're finding many times is humans and agents, leveraging platforms working together, and they come up with new use cases, new services that they were providing to the end customer that they before didn't do. And customers continue to invest which is a good sign of good ROI with us. And I think there is another discussion, maybe that's what you have in mind, which is the tokens discussion. I'm not an [indiscernible] line provider, so I cannot answer, but our role is to also optimize that for our customers. We are -- we will become a gateway between the agentic use cases and the LLM. The LLMs are utilities. And doing depending on the time of the day or the use case or whatever, there's one that is going to be cheaper than others, and we're going to go to the right one for the right use case of that agent.
I know we're having fun, but we are over the time. I want to thank you, Miguel. This was a terrific session. Thank you so much.
Than you for the opportunity. Thank you everyone.
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Salesforce — Bank of America 2026 Global Technology Conference
Salesforce sieht Generative AI als Treiber für wieder beschleunigtes Wachstum, konzentriert sich auf Agentforce, Headless-APIs und Datenlayer als Monetarisierungshebel.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Fokus: AI ist für Salesforce ein klarer Wachstumstreiber, weil die Plattform kontextreiche, regelbasierte Workflows bietet, die reine LLM-Lösungen im Unternehmen nicht liefern.
- These: Agent-basierte Automatisierung (Agentforce) schafft neue Nachfrage, erhöht Nutzung und AOV (Average Order Value) und öffnet einen deutlich größeren TAM durch digitale Arbeitskräfte.
📈 Strategische Highlights
- Agentforce: Native Einbettung in CRM-Workflows, Live-Handover zu Menschen und Auswahl verschiedener Large Language Models (LLMs) als Differenzierer gegenüber generischen Agent-Plattformen.
- Headless 360: Entkopplung von Daten-, Workflow- und UI-Layern über APIs (Headless) — soll Nutzung auf beliebigen Oberflächen ermöglichen und TAM erheblich erweitern.
- Data Foundation: Integration von Informatica und Data Cloud (rund $7,5 Mrd. Business) als Voraussetzung: Datenqualität ist entscheidend für skalierbare Agenten.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Monetarisierung: Drei Hebel: SKU-Upgrades (60–80% Preisaufschlag), zusätzliche Seats durch neue Nutzer und Verbrauchsmodell über "Flex Credits" (Credits für Agent-Aktivitäten).
- Adoptionsstand: Marktweit noch früh; viele Kunden in Pilotphasen (Top‑Deals enthielten erfolgreiche Piloten, Top‑10 repräsentierten ca. $800M Bookings), aber rapide Skalierung bei erfolgreichen Piloten.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Pricing: Wie Kunden von Seat‑ zu Consumption‑Modellen übergehen — Antwort: flexible Angebote (Premium-SKUs, unbegrenzte Enterprise‑Agreements, Credits) je nach Kundenbedarf.
- Adoption & Data: Haupthemmnis ist Datenqualität und Change‑Management; Salesforce setzt auf Vorlagenbibliotheken und Beratungs‑/Implementierungsunterstützung.
- Monetarisierungsrisiko: Management räumt ein, dass massiv höheres Agenten‑Volumen Kosten treibt (Cost‑to‑serve) und faire, vertragliche Preisfindung nötig ist.
⚡ Bottom Line
Salesforce positioniert sich klar als Integrator von LLM-Funktionalität in produktive CRM‑Workflows und sieht mehrere skalierbare Erlöshebel (Upgrades, Nutzerwachstum, Credits). Adoption ist noch früh; der Upside für Aktionäre hängt von erfolgreicher Daten- und Implementierungsunterstützung, sauberer Monetarisierung (ohne Kundenfrust) und Kontrolle der Servicing‑Kosten ab. Kurzfristig schafft das Agent‑Momentum Upside, langfristig bleibt Execution‑ und Preissetzungsdisziplin entscheidend.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I'm Valmik Desai, Vice President of Investor Relations. This session marks the fifth in our series of quarterly post-earnings webinars aimed at providing you all with a deep dive on our latest product innovation, super excited for today's session. We will deep dive on Headless 360 and Slackbot. And as you heard on our earnings call earlier this week from Mark and the team, we're incredibly excited about the opportunity ahead with Headless 360 bringing together humans, agents, headless platforms. So customers can really use Salesforce with any coding agent across any surface. We're also seeing incredibly strong momentum with Slack and with Slackbot, which we're super excited about, personally my favorite product right now to use. I wake up to it every day. It's rapidly helping our customers become agentic enterprises.
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All right. With that out of the way, I'm super excited to have Joe Inzerillo, here with us. He leads our enterprise and AI technology business, also has the coolest background in the business. So thank you for joining us, Joe. We also have Rob Seaman, who runs Slack here. We're going to start with the brief presentation, with Joe kicking us off and then we'll jump straight into your questions. Now I know this is definitely not a shy group, but please do submit your questions in the chat. And with that, over to you, Joe.
Great. Thanks, Val. So back at TDX, which seems like a lifetime ago, but it was only, what, 6, 8 weeks ago, we announced Headless 360 and the response has just been unprecedented. People are super excited about it. But there's been a lot of questions about what it is. And so I thought we'd spend a little bit of time talking about that.
So we go on to the next slide. The thing about the whole concept of Headless 360 is really leveraging the stuff that we already have. So if you think about things like our data layer, the layer of context, the layer of work, where all of our apps sit, the agentic layer between Agentforce, Slack, Tableau that sits at that level. And we have an engagement layer up top, where you could see our new Agentforce Coworker, Slackbot, some of our customer apps, custom apps and things like that, that sit up there. But Headless 360 is really meant to be that glue that gives the customers and actually ourselves internally huge flexibility in how we want to represent all of that goodness that sits in the stack below it.
And so previously, at Salesforce, we and our Salesforce admin, were really talking to the computer to provide instructions in advance to create an interface for humans to use. We're now in a world with agentics where we could actually have the agents create the UI on the fly. And Headless 360 is the way that the agents know how to use the Salesforce platform and leverage that 27 years' worth of goodness and history that's baked into it. And so it's really about liberating folks and the way that they want to do it, but liberating them through agentics. And so that's the part that's so exciting is that unlock -- to get the wheel spinning to get these new types of applications that people have never thought to build working and when it works, it's like magic.
So we're going to dive into that a little bit. So generally, in the Salesforce ecosystem, you have a user who is asking for something directly. And so they may be talking, let's say, Claude. And the agent knows how to then go and hit MCP endpoints inside the Salesforce ecosystem to ask questions. And it knows what questions to ask because these aren't just APIs, they are MCPs. So they describe semantically what they're capable of doing. And that allows humans and agents working together to drive more value. And obviously, this works all over the place. It works in Slackbot under the hood. That's the way Slackbot's working right now today. It works in Codex. It works in Claude. It works in all the major AI platforms. But it really is this work where you want to work with the tool you want to use, but still leverage the capabilities of the Salesforce platform. And what we've seen is when people adopt this pattern, they consume more of the Salesforce platform than they ever have because they're liberated to do so in the way that they want to do it and they can use the agent to really double down on the capability set.
Go to the next slide. So I think one of the things that I love about this is just seeing the utilization. So you could see SaaStr -- I think we skipped one there. like the one forward. Here we go. You can see SaaStr on the next slide here. And I love that example with them because they actually put out a tweet that essentially said, I'm paraphrasing, they've reduced their Salesforce licenses, but they've actually been paying more for Salesforce and it's worth every penny because they were able to use some of the early capabilities of the Salesforce MCP, which is really where Salesforce Headless is going to actually build their own custom interfaces. And that allowed them to just leverage more of the platform than you've ever been able to do before. And that's the kind of creativity that we've seen happening in the community and Headless 360 is really speaking to that.
And so the Headless 360 brings the humans and the agents together in Slack. And so we use this internally when we're building Salesforce experiences in Slack, they come preintegrated. So if you think about, for example, our Slack CRM is really Salesforce power sitting behind the scenes, the trust layer, the application layer, the context, everything that you've always loved on this. And at the same time, it's actually in Slack. Looking native. Nobody would ever know that Salesforce is behind the scenes because the interface is the Headless -- the Headless interface is Slack. And so no better way to actually show you that. So I'm going to bring on Rob, who's actually going to take you through a couple of slides and then show you what this looks like in practice. So with that, I'll hand it over to Rob.
Thank you, Joe. And as you heard on the earnings call, obviously, we're having a ton of traction and success with Slack in the market right now. We're very excited to meet this moment because we think it truly is where AI is going to work moving forward. So if you go to the next slide, one of the things we're seeing is, obviously, there's a ton of money that is being poured into AI by our customers and a myriad of companies around the world these days, but there is a missing piece. And outside of agentic coding, obviously like a true translation of that spend directly to employee productivity. So if you go forward, we think what's missing is something that actually connects all your people. You look at a lot of the traditional communication vehicles, whether they be e-mail or text or whatever it might be, they're siloed in their nature.
And you look at all of the agents that are out there today, like typically, they are a single-player, they are deployed into a web-based interface or embedded in a SaaS app. They don't necessarily allow people to talk to those agents and then share those results back with other people. And then every platform ultimately isn't necessarily talking to each other. So what we think needs to exist is something that connects all of these things, but does so very importantly, into a multiplayer run time.
So if you go to the next slide, we call that a work operating system for this AI age. And if you go to the next slide, that is how we are seeing people start to use Slack within our customer base, where all of their employees, their partners, their contractors, even their customers are working with them in Slack. They've deployed all of their agents from Agentforce and other third parties like Vercel, Claude or OpenAI directly into Slack. And then they have all of their other platforms connected into Slack as well, which can then be used by their agents and by their people.
If you go to the next slide, we're seeing this actually play out at some of the biggest companies in the world. But what's really exciting is the most innovative AI companies in the world have gone all in on Slack. And they've not only used Slack to run their business, but they're actually building their products to be used in Slack because it is that multiplayer AI run time. And a couple of great examples are actually Anthropic and Shopify.
So if you go to the next slide, you may have seen on Lenny's Podcast with Cat here, who's the Head of Product for Cowork and Claude Code at Anthropic, said, "Slack is basically the core operating system of their company." What's really interesting about Anthropic is every single one of their employees has a public thoughts channel. We do this within Slack. We've seen Vercel do it as well. A number of other players do it, where every single employee actually just thinks out loud in Slack. And the default is work happens in public. And so if you think about what that actually does is that raises the collective knowledge of your employees, but it also raises the collective knowledge of the agents that you deploy into Slack.
And if you go to the next slide, you'll see at Shopify, what Tobi says here, Tobi and Shopify built an agent called River. So they want all of their agentic coding to actually be done in public in a multiplayer fashion. So what they've done is they've actually deployed it into Slack. And you can only actually use it in public. And what's fascinating about this is what Tobi says here, "So the risk of today is that AI does the work, and we as humans don't learn from it as a group."
And I think that's the downfall of kind of the single player scenario. But when people work together with their agents in public, the opposite really happens, which is the best prompt pattern spread and the best knowledge spreads. And that's what we're actually seeing in Slack with third-party agents and with Slackbot. And so without further ado, I'm going to show you Slackbot. So I'm actually going to walk you through a series of things that Slackbot can do. And let me share here. Can somebody give me a verbal that you can see?
Yes, looks right.
Cool. All right. So this is Slack. For those of you that don't use Slack, I'll do a little bit of orientation on the left-hand side here is our side bar. In the middle of what I have open is a channel, and this is a Salesforce account channel. So you see at the top here how it's account. This obviously has a message stream on how account managers keep the entire company aligned around that customer success.
But you can see within here, I can see the details of that account from Salesforce right here in Slack. So first great example, I think, of Headless 360 is this is all dynamically rendered interfaces based upon the metadata that exists in Salesforce. But what I'm going to do is open my personal agent, which is Slackbot on the right-hand side here. So if you look over here in this flex pane, what I'm going to do is I'm actually -- a lot of salespeople are out on the road, and they may take chicken scratch notes, either handwritten or in their note-taking tool of choice and may eventually need to put those into CRM.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to take the chicken scratch notes that I wrote on a cocktail napkin about this contact, Kevin Marshall, and I'm going to ask Slackbot to just log a call, for that contact for the B2B commerce opportunity. And so what's interesting here is you're going to see Slackbot. One could actually read this image, which I think is pretty straightforward these days. Two, has the context of the account because it knows that from the screen that we have the account channel open. So it knows what account it's related to in Salesforce. And three, it's actually going to headlessly interrogate Salesforce, find that account, find that contact, take these notes from this image and actually write it into a task associated with that contact, that account and that opportunity in Salesforce.
So we always put the human in the loop. So in this case, this is giving me a notification that it's going to create a record in Salesforce. I'm going to go ahead and say, "Great, go ahead and do that." So I think that's a first quick example of using Salesforce Headless. Again, think of Slackbot as kind of the first best customer for Headless and using Salesforce Headless to meet users where they are and provide an exceptional and conversational experience. Now what I'm going to do is I'm actually going to ask Slackbot what sales plays and customer stories would be relevant to leverage for this particular opportunity? Now what you're going to see here which is fascinating, is another example of Headless. So this is actually fairly specific and strategic questions being asked here that requires some domain context specific to the sales organization, their content, their copy, et cetera.
So if you look down here, you can see Slackbot's actually asking the sales agent. So this is Slackbot calling and orchestrating directly an Agentforce agent. And it's doing so through an MCP tool call. I could open this and I can see what is asking the sales agent. You can see it's given this specific prompt that is given to the sales agent to go off and find those sales plays and customer stories. And again, it's doing it within the context of this particular account, the opportunity that I mentioned and that contact.
And so here, it's coming back with customer stories. It's denoted those that are shareable with Kevin externally. Those that are internal that I can't share with the customer. And so this is extremely helpful and saves a ton of time for a sales rep.
So now what I'm going to do is I'm actually going to ask it to translate all of these insights and these customer stories into a Word doc that I can share with the customer. So what's really important is all the Slack users typically have their calendar, their productivity suite, whether that's Microsoft or Google already connected into Slack. And Slackbot because of that can then act in those systems on that user's behalf.
So one, this has created or logged the call with Salesforce for me , it's found relevant customer stories; three, it's actually going to write a document. I can go off and share with my customer, but it's going to do it in the productivity tool of my particular choice. So my company, in this case, uses Microsoft OneDrive and Word. So this is actually going to go create a Word document. So it's -- I'll actually in fact, that this is real, it's going to -- you can see it said that it is sending me the Word doc, but it didn't actually send me the link. So here is that Word document. So when I open that, I can see what it has generated.
All right, now I want to keep the team going back to the multiplayer angle, I want to keep the team up-to-date on what's going on. So everything here has been kind of a single player. It's been me working with Slackbot. So now what I'm going to say is, "Hey, Slackbot, has like, well, go ahead and drop the message to the account team that summarizes the customer stories that I mentioned and our next steps for [indiscernible]." So when I do that, Slackbot is going to compose that here, but can actually send a message on my behalf back into this channel, and that is going to take what has been a purely single player experience and make it multiplayer, which is immensely powerful. And I think one of the things that we were able to do in Slack that you can't do it in a single-player environment. Now I'm going to hop over and I'm going to show a few more things that we're very excited about that are a little bit more involved. And so the first thing I'm going to do -- sorry, I actually wasn't ready for this, I apologize. Let me open up like Google Drive real quick. Can you give me just a second? I'm going to open.
Someone at home is pausing every single frame and analyzing what Rob is doing.
Exactly I'm going -- give me just 1 second while I stop sharing here, and I'm going to pull up the spreadsheet real quick that I need for this demo. So if you give me a hot sec.
I think this also emphasizes our commitment to transparency and showing it actually happening as it happens at Salesforce.
Absolutely. So let me share again here. All right. Can you see now?
Yes.
Cool. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and get this prompt going because this one is actually going to write some code. So over here on the right, I'm going to basically ask Slackbot to use the S&B Q2 forecast tracker spreadsheet and build the 6-page interactive report for me. And it's a pretty detailed set of instructions. So I'm going to kick that off. This will actually take a few minutes because one of the things that's interesting about it when I show you the spreadsheet that it's going to find and read, it's actually very computational and data intensive. And so it figures out that it needs to use Python and it's actually going to write Python and execute that Python to do the analysis. But I'm going to hop over and actually show you that particular spreadsheet. So -- but I think the first thing to tell you is that I didn't give it a link to the spreadsheet. I just said, "Hey, can you look at that Q2 forecasts that are in a spreadsheet." And it goes off into this case, Google Drive and it finds it.
So what I'm going to do is hop over to Chrome, and I'm going to show you the spreadsheet. So this is kind of dummy data, but it's an actual spreadsheet used by a sales team here at Salesforce. And so I'm going to click through really quick and show you like just the degree of complexity that's in the spreadsheet, the number of tabs, the amount of data. This is just not something that a human being can like genuinely look at and be able to make the most sense of. But Slackbot can do that for me. So it's off executing against that right now. What I'm going to do is I'm going to go pull up a prior version that I executed and show this to you.
So when I hop up here, you'll see what it comes back with. So it came back with, hey, I've actually created that for you. But when I open up the details of what it's done, let me actually just show it too, which is in is a better example. This has actually created a dynamic user interface on the fly that didn't exist before. And this is, I think, the power of Slackbot, but also the power of the Salesforce Headless 360. So this is query Salesforce. It's read that spreadsheet. It's joined the information between the spreadsheet and Salesforce. It's taken my prompt and then dynamically generated this interface. So I can see a risk matrix of my deals where I have gaps to commit.
It can see where we have velocity and coverage issues. I can do some what-if and scenario modeling, if I wanted to, to see what might happen and overall health signals. This is something that probably would have taken a human being a while to take care of before that we're now able to do in a really quick fashion. So I'm going to hop back over.
I'm going to close out of this, and I'm going to show you a different prompt. So when I hop back in here, you'll see the second prompt I gave it is actually saying, okay, we have a QBR later this week. I want you to leverage the presentation design skill and put together an executive summary PowerPoint presentation of the team's performance. So based upon this dashboard that's happening here and what -- this is important to highlight, this actually leverages our skills framework, which is new.
We just turned on for customers this week. So Slackbot Skills are a way for end users to actually define kind of micro agents or tasks or processes, if you will, and then share them with their team. We've got a series that have been built by us. We've got those that have been built internally at Salesforce. We have some that are recommended based on social proof and sharing. But these are really, really powerful.
And so when I hop in back in here, you will see that what Slackbot used is that presentation design skill, which I'll open up here. And this just through natural language gives it some instructions on how to actually build a presentation, and it spit out this PowerPoint presentation, which I'll open here.
So as I scroll through this PowerPoint presentation, you'll see this is a translation of that spreadsheet, what's going on in Salesforce in that dashboard that was created into something that's consumable in a meeting that we can share. So I think this is, again, something that people spend a ton of time actually going through the production of that we can get human beings out of the production work and back into that kind of creative and critical thinking.
So I will stop -- actually, one last thing I'm going to show you on the multiplayer element. I want to show you a real channel in Salesforce called How I Slackbot. This gives you an idea of the kind of social nature and multiplayer nature of AI and Slack. This is not a channel we created. The users created it themselves. It's called How I Slackbot. We now have 4,600 employees that have opted into this. And every single day, these employees are sharing skills that they have built. And any employee can hop in here and add those skills to their Slackbot and releverage them. And it's just become this incredibly vibrant AI community. It is ultimately up to the AI fluency of the Salesforce employee base as a whole. And with that, I will stop.
Awesome. Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Joe. That was awesome. We have a ton of questions coming in. I'm going to start with one here from Gregg Moskowitz at Mizuho. It's focused on kind of the opportunity that we have with Headless. And he says, "While Salesforce's Agentforce disclosures have been very encouraging from an adoption standpoint, it hasn't yet been visible from a revenue standpoint. Given that Headless 360 opens up the Salesforce platform to external AI agents and coding tools via MCP. Do you think this could be the mechanism that puts Salesforce more directly in the token path?" So maybe, Joe, you can start with that one.
Yes. Look, thank you. It's a great question. Thanks for the question. Absolutely. I mean I think Headless 360 is what the market has been asking for us to do with our agentic technology. They saw what the capabilities were with Agentforce and what it could do internally. And I think it's one of those things that have clicked for us and it clicked for the market at around the same time that like "Wow, wouldn't it be great if all the coding agents could take advantage of everything that Salesforce had to offer." And I think the Headless 360 strategy is really about empowering the ecosystem of agents. So there's no question that there's 2 things that we have real high confidence and we have data that gives us this high confidence, which is this is something that people want. And the people that use it consume more.
So it gives them more Slackbot because it takes the things that have been happening in Salesforce historically at human scale and changes it into agent scale. And that agent scale is the humans and the agents working together but the agent scale is just much, much, much larger and freeing it up so that you can just bring the tool of your choice to bear on Salesforce.
In some cases, that's the completely vertically integrated Salesforce stack. In other cases, it may be components like Cowork or some other LLM coding tool or operations tool that you could just basically attach to Salesforce and go for it. So I absolutely think that this is one of those things where every MCP interface that we've turned on at Salesforce immediately gets lit up with traffic. And we see that traffic just continuing to grow because the demand is there because what we have in the core platform is just so valuable.
Awesome. I do think I'll add one thing. The way we're looking at the long-term opportunity here is exactly as Joe described, which is we feel that more people are accessing the platform, the more they're able to actually surface those insights wherever they want to do that work is super valuable for us, right? And it's super valuable for our customers. So when we start to see more usage patterns at more kind of use cases that really start to proliferate, that's where we're going to work with our customers, work with our ecosystem and understand what is the right way to kind of capture value on both sides of the equation for customers for Salesforce. So certainly more to come there, but it's totally the right question to be focused on.
Our next question here comes from Rathin Yagnik, my good friend and our investor at Adage Capital Management. "Is there any initiative to have the UI of Slack itself from purely text and image-based presentation interaction to a more dynamic richer interface. For example, having something like Tableau more closely integrated into Slack, so you can see ad hoc visualization?" And I think Rob showed some of this, but maybe, Rob, you can touch on the future road map here as well.
Absolutely. We did show a few things there, which was we showed specifically the on-demand creation of like a dashboard or a dynamic surface. But I think what's most exciting for Slackbot is 2 things. One is MCP and the MCP UI standard that's emerging. So basically, any MCP tool that Slackbot can call can actually generate MCP UI that can be then rerendered in Slackbot, which inherently makes it more dynamic. But also coming back to Headless 360 is the Salesforce Headless experience layer. So there's so much rich metadata in the Salesforce platform for Salesforce customers like they've expressed the way they work and do business. And in Tableau and the way that they've built their layouts in Lightning. And that could all be transposed basically and shown through MCP UI and Slackbot. So yes, Slack, think by just the nature of consuming MCP and MCP UI with the Headless experience layer from Headless 360 is going to become much more rich visually.
Yes. And maybe just to add on, if people want to see a glimpse of what this looks like, when you turn that dial to maybe not 11 yet, but at least a good solid 8 is take a look at Slack CRM and when you look at it, you are doing deep work that historically, you would have gone to a rich Lightning interface to do, but you're now able to do it in Slack. But to Rob's point, more importantly, the agent is also able to do it with you in Slack and so you see that you could do the deep work on a very rich surface, but you could also have the agent to do that work on your behalf and you can collaborate multiplayer with the agent. And I think that's a big thing. Multiplayer is not just a human thing. It's the humans and the agents collaborating together in a multiplayer scenario.
Awesome, we're going to stay on the Slack and Slackbot subject here with a question from Keith Bachman from BMO. How does Slack compare and compete against Microsoft Copilot and I think it means Slackbot there. It seems like a lot of overlap with Microsoft and yet Microsoft has underlying personal productivity tools. So maybe, Rob, you can start there.
Yes. I mean the way I think about it -- I'm not going to sit here and necessarily talk about our competitor's products or a partner's products. But what I would like to say is like what makes Slackbot magical is the work that we have done to actually -- we call it being a good host within Slack. But the work that we've done to kind of tilt the umbrella and help users on board and help with the AI fluency. So one, I think that is something that you don't see in a lot of like the single player instances of AI tools that are out there today. Two, the other thing that I would say is like there's just a tremendous system of context in Slack.
So if you look at the way people actually use Slack and like the bias towards working in public channels and having these longitudinal channels that the membership changes over time. There's just a significant amount of context where it can like immediately. So I think there's no cold start problem. They can start writing like you. It can start understanding your company's objectives and priorities almost immediately. And then another like ease-of-use thing, frankly, is that it inherits all of the connections you already have into your Slack, right? And so 70% of our customers are Microsoft shops. And so I can use Slackbot to book a meeting through Outlook? I can use Slackbot to write a Word doc as you saw or create a PowerPoint presentation for me. So it's just like -- it's incredibly facile in the sense that it helps you get up to speed on AI. It helps you share AI with your teammates. And it actually helps you connect to other systems and operate in those systems, I think, faster than anything else we've seen.
Yes, absolutely. And just maybe to add to what Rob is saying. I think when we think about the fact that we live in an incredibly heterogeneous environment right now. There are agents everywhere. There's other systems everywhere. I think the big thing is it's the fit and finish and the way that people use the tools that's super important. So I think the sort of software world was really fixated on features, what is the Harvey ball or checkbox chart look like as to what features you have. And those are important, don't get me wrong. But the big thing about Slackbot is how organic it is and how you use it.
You don't have to mention agents in the stream of consciousness that you're talking to Slackbot with. It knows how to use these tools and orchestrate them. And I think that's one of the reasons as a company, we've really been talking about AWUs or these agentic work units because that's really the output side of it. If people are driving these AWUs, we know they're actually getting work done with the tool. And we feel like, again, we need to make it heterogeneous, we need to work with everybody. We really value our partners, but we also believe that it's the best place to get work done is in Slack.
Great. We have another one here that kind of goes into both Slackbot and Headless 360 from Allan Verkhovski from BTIG. "If customers are spending more on Salesforce for leveraging their MCPs, how does that conversation go in terms of how much of an uplift they're willing to pay for Headless 360? And what is your right to win? And why should people gravitate to Slackbot?"
Yes. Well, I think those are 2 separate questions. I'll take the first. Maybe I'll give Rob the Slackbot question. But I think as far as Headless 360, we have not unveiled our total commercial plan for this. And I think the reason is because we really want to work with our customers and make sure that we're getting this right. Like this is an important adjunct to what we've been doing historically, and there's a lot of complexity to it. And so we don't want to do it too quickly and just kind of shotgun something out there. We really want to talk to the customers to understand how they see the value, how we can help with it. But the thing that we believe is there is value. So when we talk about what it might charge or if a customer is going to pay us more or less, the whole point is if the customer is using the platform more, there's a way to come up with that's totally fair and beneficial to both parties to monetize that extra value that's created. And so I think sometimes in the customer service use case, for example, a lot of people talk about savings, but we're really fixated on growth.
So when we think about things like qualified and sales agents and the things that we're putting out now agentically using the platform, it's increasing what a company can do from a revenue standpoint. It's increasing the stickiness of the interactions with that company, and we believe that, that value creation by using these new tools, there's going to be a fair way to split it, but we just don't want to be too overly prescriptive without really socializing it with like our CIO advisory boards and other folks that are out there to make sure that we're really hitting the mark and making sure that we stick the landing on, again, appropriately monetizing that value. But we're confident the value is there, and we're confident it will be very accretive. I don't know, Rob, if you want to take the Slackbot portion of that, though, because I think that's a great question as well.
Yes, absolutely. The first thing I would say is as far as right to win, the most important thing for us is to actually be the home of all AI for employees within enterprises that is used in a multiplayer way. So period. It's actually not Slackbot. The most important thing for us is that Salesforce, all of your other AI tools show up in Slack exceptionally and can be used in this multiplayer run time in a way that like makes a ton of sense for humans and agents to collaborate. And then after that, I think Slackbot is our most important priority. And as far as our right to win, I'm not going to say it's our right to win necessarily a particular category of software, but we do typically have a right to win your use. And the way that we do that through Slack is obsessing over the user experience, and obsessing over how teams work together, right?
And I think that's what you'll see with Slackbot that when you see internally at Salesforce, we've got 70,000 weekly active users of it, 93% week-over-week retention. People are just kind of, as Val said, kind of obsessed with it because it so naturally fits into their workflow. So there's 2 aspects of that. One is proximity. It's right there in Slack, we're already spending a couple of hours a day to work with your colleagues. Two is the context. So it knows what you're working on and it knows what's important for your company. And so I'd just reiterate, the most important thing for us is for the ecosystem to be successful in Slack and then making AI extremely easy to use and share through Slackbot.
Awesome. Great. We have another one here that's along the same thread, a lot of the similar questions around headless economic impact. So Kirk Materne from Evercore asks, "Can you talk about Headless 360 from an economic perspective. It would seem there are different revenue and op margin implications for buying an agent versus building an agent inside Salesforce versus building an agent elsewhere and accessing a CRM agent via an MCP server. Any way to think about the variability across these different scenarios?"
So maybe I'll start with just a high-level view, and then I would love Joe and Rob to chime in on kind of their use cases. Specifically on a Headless use case that you're building on another platform as you heard us say, we're working through that. More to come there on the commercial model. I think where we start to see a differentiation specifically on comparing an Agentforce built agent, which is purpose-built, understands the context, understands what your task you're trying to accomplish and is deeply integrated in the full set of CRM data that we have, that drives a much faster kind of time to value proposition for customers.
It's a higher accuracy outcome for a lot of these customers as well when they're able to use things like Agentforce Script determinism in the flow of that workflow and that agent where they're actually able to not just leverage optimization of which model makes sense for the right step of this process or this task, but how do I make sure I'm actually kind of programming in the standard workflows, the standard if this is the topic that they're asking about, this is the way we should actually react here, and that actually helps you drive leverage on the cost side of how much you're pinging an LLM to get that answer done. So there's a lot of work our team has been doing from an R&D perspective.
There's a lot of work that we even have done from an implementation and deployment perspective, Agentforce testing center. You heard from one of our customers at UCLA Health that talked a lot about the importance of having that testing center to have a high degree of confidence before they went live with a patient-facing agent. Of course, in a world where their goal is to make the patient experience better, to triage faster on those health care requirements that are higher impact and higher priority versus ones that are lower priority that they can just surface with a quick answer, that takes a lot of confidence for a firm like that to actually go live with an agent facing their patients. So the ability to have that level of confidence, all the work we've done around the platform, we think there's a huge advantage there. But Joe, I'd love for you to come in and kind of chime with your perspective of what you've heard from customers as well.
Yes. I mean I talk to customers every day. And we have some customers that, again, love the vertically integrated stack. So for them, Agentforce is just natural. They have that skill set. Their trailblazers know how to use Salesforce. They know what they want to get out of the Salesforce. Agentforce unlocks these new potential applications of it. And so they want to do that. And I also talk to customers that say, "Hey, I have this investment in my coding agent or tools or whatever, and I would like to do it this way."
I think Headless 360 speaks to both of them. And I think the way that I think about it is like cars, right? I'd say the vast majority of us buy a car and then we drive it around. And maybe we hang an air freshener, we certainly play our own music in the car. We do a bunch of things to make that car ourselves, but we don't physically change the car. There are people that mod cars, right? So they change the suspension, they switch out the rims. They do all those sorts of things, and that's the way they want to drive their car. I think with us, we give you a couple of different series of cars that are fit for purpose for those particular industries or size companies, small business, et cetera.
So we give you a bunch of different choices in cars, and you can take the vertically integrated car and not touch it, just customize it in the ways that we talked about or you can go and fully mod that car and you can give them components of it and say, well, look, I want the Salesforce engine transmission and tires, but I'm going to put my own chrome on it. I'm going to do this and that. The other thing to what Val was talking about is if you want to take that Salesforce version of it and you want to do really great things with it, it also comes with a pit crew, right, and a mechanic. And that's really testing center and all those sorts of things. And so when you think about it, we're really trying to provide choice, we would like to win more than our fair share of folks that want to use the vertically integrated stack because it just delivers so much value so much faster.
But we also want a rich environment of people taking components of it that they think are going to make their particular application and my analogy, their car better for them. and we're trying to do both of those things. And Headless 360 is the mechanism by which we're actually able to do both of those at the same time without having randomly different development efforts to try to support that.
Awesome. I think we answered Arjun's from William Blair's question already. So I'm going to skip ahead as he was asking about the vertically integrated stack and how we think about third-party agents versus Agentforce. James Sperling at UBS is asking about data sharing. It's an area that's been an accelerant for Snowflake consumption, can CRM attack that data sharing use case between vendors, partners, customers to drive consumption and stickiness by enhancing the focus on Slack external partner connections or Slack dashboard sharing? And I know we have a massive Slack ecosystem. So maybe, Rob, you can chime in on what you're seeing there.
I think we have a tremendous opportunity to participate in that. And I think what's been really exciting, one, what's been really exciting is the adoption of the MCP standard. I think this one creating an interoperability between agents, but also agentifying the access patterns to APIs. It has pushed us and made us change our APIs across Slack and Salesforce with these new agentic access patterns. But it's nice to have a standard around this, and I think participating in that is incredibly important, and it allows our agents to consume the tools, services and data from other systems and vice versa, and we want to play very nice in that. How it all ends up shaking out from a monetization or balance of trade perspective, I think, remains to be seen. But I think right now, we're obsessing over creating the things that actually help users and companies achieve what they want and figuring out the economics as we do that because the rate of change is just so fast.
I'd just add one thing. I mean specifically because the questioner asked about Snowflake and mentioned data, one of the things that we have is our data foundations layer, data cloud, Informatica, all the -- Tableau, all the stuff that sort of sits in that data foundation side of it, all of those are either are or will be available as Headless 360 as well. And so when you think about a lot of, let's say, Snowflake data or Databrick's data that's sort of landlocked, where it has part of the picture, but it doesn't have a full semantic understanding of the company, you can use data foundations to give it that semantic understanding that semantic grounding, and then you could use that on our agents to make them better. They'll just naturally take advantage of it or you could use headless, you can use data foundations headlessly to power other agentic experiences where Salesforce is just doing that data aggregation part on the semantic layer side of it.
So I think what we really want to do is we want to have a set of LEGO blocks out there, where people can assemble them. But just like LEGO does, you also could buy the kit that tells you exactly how to build the spaceship that you want to build, but if you don't want to build that exact spaceship, you're free to customize it any way you want. But I think sometimes when people think about it is they don't think about all the things like Informatica that are now sort of either inherently or will be available headlessly as part of that LEGO kit that allows you to just compose these things in ways that is vastly easier than trying to get everything consolidated in a single database.
Great. We have another question here from Kirk and Peter at Evercore."How are you managing compute costs in terms of customers' access to the massive Slack context library that continues to build on itself over time, meaning the context change or context library as more tokens on any query of Slackbot are presumably going to be utilizing to fulfill this request?" So Rob, maybe you can talk about that optimization path that we're going through.
Yes, absolutely. What's interesting, you may have heard it on the earnings call yesterday. We actually have -- so we launched our Slack MCP server 9 or 10 weeks ago, and we now have 1.2 million weekly active users of our MCP server that are making around 40 million weekly active tool calls that I think are pulling around 175 billion data tokens a week at this point. So it is a tremendous amount of volume. And so I think it speaks to the value to the second part of your question about the context that sits in Slack. I can't get into too many details, but we're working on a number of things to actually minify the footprint of the infrastructure required to serve that while also still meeting the needs of the use cases.
I think we're also doing as much as we can to I mean this gets into the technical details. We're doing as much as we can to preprocess and make as efficient as possible the consumption of those APIs. We've actually built, as I mentioned earlier, different versions of our APIs with partners for these new agentic access patterns because a lot of the APIs, frankly, that existed before for the traditional Slack app use cases aren't the best fit for these agentic access patterns that are much more chatty and iterative. And so we're actually building entirely new APIs that are agent focused. And I think over time, we'll be figuring out exactly how that fits into our plan structure and monetization structure with partners.
Yes. The only thing I'd add to it is, I think it's a great question. I think it's an astute question. But one of the things that perhaps we don't talk enough about is our transformation as an agentic enterprise using these coding tools. And so just to throw some love towards the Slack engineering team, it's incredible what the team has been able to do. And we now have groups of people that are 20x the productivity they were in the past. And so I think before these coding agents, there was like a real tension with like how much do you drive features versus how much do you drive efficiencies in cost structure and cost to serve.
Because we have these coding tools because it's so entrenched and we're moving so much faster, we can do that optimization more contemporarily to the feature development that we've ever been able to do in the past because of the scale we're getting out of the coding tools. And so we, as a user of agentic coding tools have unlocked capabilities and velocities that like if you would have told us 2, 3 years ago that we would be here, I don't think anybody would have believed it, they would have thought of it as science fiction.
It's a great point there. And I think one request for Joe, I've requested access to Claude Code personally, so I can start to agentify the IR process and help answer questions faster. So hopefully, that access gets approved soon. Our next question here is for -- from Omar Sheikh from Redburn. "Can you give us any examples of how early adopters are using Headless 360 right now?" So maybe, Joe, you can talk about some of the customer examples that are really exciting.
Yes. I mean I think when I look at somebody like Williams-Sonoma as an example, that has aspects of it that are delivered using essentially the Headless 360 APIs and MCPs, even though we didn't really call it that when we demoed it a couple of months before, we actually came out with the name. The underlying technology was the same. And so when you see these like super rich experiences like the shopping experience, Williams-Sonoma is just really incredible where it understands what you bought from them. You can ask for recipes. You can see these rich carousels of things rendered into the Agentic side of it. We're also seeing like really incredible things with like SharkNinja where we can actually drive the website itself, where the agent is interacting with us. And the acquisition we made recently, Qualified, I think, is a great example. In the past, if we bought a company like Qualified, we would be thinking about, okay, well, how do we do these integrations into our platform.
But because the Headless 360, we're actually able to just integrate with them the way that anybody else can integrate with the Salesforce platform. And so Piper, our agent there is now able to do more things with Salesforce than they could pre-acquisition because obviously, we're putting a lot of focus on that. But ultimately, the Headless 360 platform, other people could do that, too. So I think when I look at these agentic experiences, we're just scratching the surface. I mean some of them are really step functions better than what's been in the market before.
A couple of examples that I gave that I personally like, but they're still so early innings as to what's possible when you start thinking about customers' agents talking to our agents, when you think about the whole website essentially being totally dynamically generated by the agent. All of these things are avenues that are going to start coming up that we can take advantage of. And so I think those are just a couple of examples, but it's just so early innings with this about how good you could make it. And that's actually the exciting part of where we're at right now is just seeing people take advantage of things in ways that like we wouldn't have predicted, but we're thrilled to see happen in production.
Our next question here comes from Matt VanVliet at Cantor Fitzgerald and focused a bit on gross margin. So as both Agentforce and Data 360, MCP adoption grows, what is the strategy around gross margin as monetization takes different paths and usage of AWUs becomes the near-term goal.
So I can start with this one. I think with a portfolio of products like we have at Salesforce, of course, we have different kind of gross margin profiles across our core business and that's something that we manage really well. We have best-in-class subscription and support gross margins in the industry. We're going to continue to manage that well, right? With new products, you always expect kind of ramp cycle, a curve of efficiency that will take some time to get through, but we're managing to kind of keeping best-in-class software subscription and support gross margins over the long term. Now what does that mean? I think, first and foremost, customer success is super important, make sure we're optimizing for usage, getting Headless in the hands of more customers, making sure they're understanding how can I use this in my business, that we think actually will expand usage across the entire portfolio, which is super, super exciting.
There's a lot of things from a monetization standpoint that you've heard us talk about over the last few quarters. Agentforce One Edition, Agentforce for Apps, more bundled SKUs, ELAs, driving more of this embedded agentic use cases within the purchasing vehicles that we have is another way for us to capture more value. In the quarter, Agentforce One Edition and Agentforce for Apps actually grew 60% bookings growth year-over-year in Q1. And the ARPU uplift we're seeing there for the premium tier additions is really meaningful, 60%, 70%, 80% ARPU uplift that we're able to achieve. So there's a lot of ways for us to go out there and kind of capture the value from what we're delivering to our customers, but we also manage a portfolio of gross margins and have committed to kind of maintaining that best-in-class level that we're at today.
Yes, Val -- I mean you hit it -- you've nailed it. The only thing I would really add to that is, I think right at the beginning of your response, you embedded perhaps the most important part for this to understand is the fact that it's growth in usage, right, growth and delivering value. And so there will be instances where customers existing licenses like some of what Val talked about, will be all they're paying us. And yes, their utilization will go up. We also believe we can drive efficiencies back to my last answer. But we're also seeing that we have these consumption models. We have those things where customers when they succeed, we succeed from a customer outcome standpoint, and that growth in it sort of inherently brings the gross margin with it because we're highly aligned to our customers. And they are paying us more, but they're happy to pay us more because they're making more money materially. And that's exactly where we want to make sure that when we think about pricing models, we get this right because we want to be equitable to everybody. But I think Val said it very well.
Awesome. The next question here is from Terry Tillman at Truist. "And as you think about Headless 360 longer term, is the bigger opportunity expanding the number of users who interact with Salesforce and increasing the depth and frequency of platform usage or is it opening up new agent-driven use cases that were not practical in the traditional UI-based model?"
Yes, I think it's actually both. I think both of those things, it's a good question. But I think both of those are going to happen at the same time. I mean when you think about it -- when you take a step back and you say, okay, we look at our admins, we look at the folks that were like building these interfaces, like the UI was empowering, but it was also constraining, right? Every admin out there, every UI person, every trailblazer had a backlog of stuff that they wanted to get into the interface that they -- that somebody believed -- maybe they are a business user or a stakeholder that submitted it was going to drive incremental value to them. But there was a finite limit to how much of that you can do.
Now in this world with the agentic coding tools and with Headless 360 and the sort of ephemeral business driven, let me talk to the agent and tell it what I need. Our belief is that people will have more meaningful conversations with the Salesforce platform. And when they have more meaningful conversations, they're going to have more of them. And there's no question that agents are assistive in that, agents are driving it and human beings are also driving it. So I think we see it happening in all vectors. There's definitely a lot of folks that in a company that didn't necessarily interact with Salesforce directly, definitely did not interact with Salesforce Lightning that now, I think, are going to drive increased usage because they're going to talk to an agent that's going to be talking to Headless 360 in the Salesforce platform.
And I think Slack is just the greatest example of that. When people use our products in Slack, they use more of them. And that is because of the fact that they're just so much more dynamic and so much more powerful when we can create this level of both control and just assistiveness to the individual users of it and not constrain it by how much the IT department could actually fulfill those requests. And so as a technologist, I look after the office of our CIO and the internal Salesforce systems, I'm thrilled with this thing and how it's working because it gives me the opportunity when I wear that hat to think about how do I better serve my business users. And part of the way I better serve them is I teach them how to fish and then I give them the fishing rods.
And I think that's what this technology is going to do as it expands to is that this concept of -- it's not even distributed IT, it's AI fluency lifting in the entire company, and therefore, the tooling goes much more horizontal. I think that's going to drive utilization for short.
Awesome. Our next question here is on Agentic Work Units from Jackson Ader at KeyBanc. "Which tasks or outcomes consume more or less AWUs. Do AWUs track closely to token consumption? Or are there some outcomes that are really valuable and high in AWUs, but don't consume a ton of tokens?"
The answer is that AWUs are very token variable, I would say. In some cases, they consume a lot of AWUs. The particular task or a lot of tokens, the particular task that outputs in AWU may be very reasoning intensive. So it's sort of thinking about things and taking a bunch of stuff into consideration. And therefore, the token count is quite high. But I'll give you an example of why we use AWUs as opposed to exclusively token count is if you look at Agent Script inside of Agentforce. It allows you to have a high degree of determinism. Well, the way we're able to ensure that is we're not using LLMs to fulfill those requests. There's an agent -- an agentic LLM upfront that's trying to understand your request. But when you get into that sub agent, that is deterministic, we're running other types of models and other types of procedural code on the back end to guarantee that it will be a deterministic outcome, but it's actually not agentic in that sense.
The front end of it's agentic, but the fulfillment end of it is not. And so that would be an example of that's actually a very low token use case, but still very high value. And I think that that's one of the reasons we think AWUs, at least at this point, are really good measure because it's like what work did you get done with sort of agentics in the loop. And the deterministic nondeterministic deep reasoning, wide reasoning, all of those things have very, very different token profiles, but we believe they all deliver kind of similar amounts of value. So that's the reason we added up the way that we do.
Yes. I totally agree, Joe. The one thing I'd add just for some color on what you saw in our Q1 AWU print, Agentforce Service, the service use cases are still representing the majority of AWU consumption but let me call out some of the fastest-growing areas within that AWU number you saw 1.6 billion in the quarter. That was growing really well quarter-over-quarter. We actually saw a real valuable increase in kind of the sales use case. We launched the sales agents, I want to say 3 quarters ago now, and that, I think, grew above 200% quarter-over-quarter in AWU usage.
We had certain industries that we've been hyper focused on from getting these out-of-the-box agents, more use cases, right, retail consumer goods, high tech, public sector that represented a real large amount of AWU consumption in the quarter and there's a way for us to really look deep into the AWU usage across these different vectors to understand what's working, what's not, where can we go faster, and that's a huge operational advantage for us.
And the last thing I'll mention, Slackbot, absolute amazing AWU usage growth quarter-over-quarter, more than 300% quarter-over-quarter growth in Slack AWUs in just a short period since launch. So a lot of good things happening there, a lot of ways for us to really monitor, optimize, make sure that these AWUs are actually converting real kind of token kind of raw intelligence into work enterprise outcomes. And that's what we're super excited about there.
So the last question here that we have for the webinar today, and thank you to Joe and Rob for hosting. As AI agents increasingly outnumber human users, how does the Slack and Headless 360 product road map evolve? So maybe give us a little bit of a sneak peek, whatever you're comfortable sharing at this point on what can we expect to see out of these products in the future?
Yes. Well, I'll start. Maybe I'll throw it over to Rob for the Slack perspective on it. But I think what I think about agent 360, I'll just go a little deeper than what I was talking about before, there are parts of me that really believe that 2/3 of the capacity of my IT organization is going to be building things that power agentic use cases for business users. So they're very much in the situation where their customer used to be the business owner directly, now it's the business owner's agent or their coding agent or the Cowork agent. And so when we really start to think about that, that's, I think, when you get massive scale because you also get massive customization, right? We -- in the abstract, we always wanted to have the most personalized version of Salesforce that people can have so that it felt natural, they used it, they loved it. It brought them joy, same thing with Slack, but there were limitations based upon how much code you could write, how much you could do for customization. Those limits have now been reset in a very, very major way.
And so I think thinking about as an internal IT provider, internal technology providers thinking about the use case that you're no longer just providing technology for humans, you're actually providing technology for your digital workforce as well to get jobs done. I think this is just a super provocative concept. And I think we're going to get there a lot faster than people think. We think Headless 360 is a pivotal piece of that because that's the things -- the types of things that these agentic digital labor agents are going to have to use, they need that kind of foundation, and we're happy to kind of lead the way by showing people, yes, this is the way that deep work is going to be done in a hybrid workforce.
Just to build on what Joe said from a Slack perspective, I'd say we're very excited and we're tracking towards. I think you'll see as many agents in Slack as users as you will, in humans in Slack as users. And I think that's, again, going back to our priorities, that's where it's exciting to try and nail the problem of becoming that multiplayer AI home for the ecosystem or multiplayer home for the AI ecosystem. And then I think to another point Joe made earlier, I think what you'll see moving forward is there was actually a mention of this on Lenny's Podcast by the CEO of EVRY, the other day. But I think you'll see Slackbot become a super-agent for employees in Slack, and that will ultimately be the primary thing that they talk to that ends up interfacing with and surfacing other agents from -- certainly from Agentforce, but from third parties as well. So excited to see proliferation of agents and Slackbot help with the wayfinding with those agents.
Awesome. Well, that wraps up this webinar. Thank you all for joining so much. We look forward to seeing you over the next few weeks. One quick ask, if you have feedback on what you'd like to hear next quarter, what topic, what product, an area of the business that you'd like to deep dive on please send that over to myself, to Alex Chan, Alex Kingery. We also have a new member on the team that you'll be seeing out at the conferences over the next few weeks, Lauren O'Brien that we're really excited to get out there. So look forward to seeing you on the road, give us feedback, and thank you so much for joining.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
Webinar nach den Quartalszahlen: Produkt‑Deep‑Dive zu Headless 360 und Slackbot mit Live‑Demos, Partner‑Fokus und Q&A.
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Headless 360 soll Salesforce‑Funktionen agentenfähig und plattformübergreifend nutzbar machen; Slack wird als "multiplayer" Laufzeit für KI‑Agenten positioniert.
- Ziel: Mehr Nutzer, höhere Nutzungsfrequenz und neue agentgetriebene Anwendungsfälle, die Plattform‑Consumption erhöhen sollen.
- Monetarisierung: Noch offen — Management betont Wertschöpfung zuerst, kommerzielle Modelle werden mit Kunden abgestimmt.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Headless 360: Glue‑Layer, der Agents (z.B. Agentforce, Claude, OpenAI) ermöglicht, Salesforce‑Daten und -Funktionen semantisch zu nutzen (MCP = Machine‑Callable‑Procedures).
- Slackbot‑Demos: Live‑Beispiele: Bild‑zu‑Task (Call‑Logging), Account‑Kontext, Erzeugung von Word/PowerPoint, Ausführen von Python und dynamische UI‑Generierung.
- Ökosystem: Betonung offener Integration (MCP‑Standard) und Beispiele bei Anthropic, Shopify, Williams‑Sonoma; Skills‑Framework für wiederverwendbare Micro‑Agents aktiviert.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Produkt: Skills‑Framework ist für Kunden freigeschaltet; Headless 360 als verbindende Erfahrung demonstriert.
- Adoption: Slack MCP‑Server wird stark genutzt (Management nennt hohe Aktivitäts‑ und Tool‑Call‑Volumina); konkrete kommerzielle Pläne für Headless bleiben ausstehend.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Monetarisierung: Wie fängt Salesforce Mehrnutzung ein? Management: Gespräche mit Kunden, keine festen Preispläne yet.
- Kosten/Skalierung: Token/Compute und Kontext‑Bibliothek sind Thema; Slack baut agentoptimierte APIs und Optimierungen, konkrete Kostenmodelle offen.
- Konkurrenz: Warum Slack vs. Microsoft Copilot? Antwort: Kontext, Multiplayer‑Workflow und Integration in vorhandene Tools als Differenzierer.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Ausblick: Starke Produkt‑Momentum‑Signale (Slackbot‑Demos, AWU‑Wachstum) könnten Nutzungs‑ und Umsatzwachstum befeuern; erhebliche Upside, solange Salesforce ein faires Monetarisierungsmodell findet und Compute‑Kosten beherrscht.
Salesforce — Jefferies Software
1. Question Answer
Bill, welcome back.
Great to be back.
He has been actually very consistent in supporting our conference. So thank you for being a support. Thank you for always scheduling it the day after our earnings. I'm sorry. I know it's hard. But thanks for making the trip. And for you, I'm going to go off memory. You were joined in 2017, and you were at Microsoft 14 years prior to that.
That's right. Yes.
Okay. So it's ingrained. That memorable. The -- so had a good chat with Robin last night post and talk through things. I think -- I mean the key question that we're -- everyone is asking us today is you have low teen cRPO growth. You've called for an acceleration in the back half of the year. CRPO is accelerating. So everyone is like, well, how do you see an acceleration overall if we're not seeing cRPO accelerate?
Yes. Yes. Well, first off, thank you for having me again. It's always a pleasure to come and speak with you guys about what we're really excited about at Salesforce. And you've always been sort of -- someone that keeps us on our toes. So thanks, and I'm happy to answer kind of what we're seeing in the business at large. When you look -- I think some of the things that you heard in our earnings script yesterday from Mark and Robin and the team, we have a lot of real excitement happening in the business. And the exciting parts that really give us confidence about the back half acceleration, number one, agent force. Agent force is really transforming not just the way that kind of the revenue complexion comes in the sales force, but it's transforming the way our customers are using our software to add value to their business. And this quarter, our focus has really been on accelerating the adoption flywheel, getting customers in this moment from pilot into production and really seeing that production have meaningful returns on the front end of their business. And we've seen in every industry, companies in financial services, health care, high tech, retail, using this platform to finally catch up to the demands of their customer. And that's, I think, been one of the most exciting parts is for the first time, technology is helping companies sort of catch up because the demands of customers have always sort of overwhelmed the service centers, the sales centers, et cetera. So Agent force is really off and running, and I think we're really excited about it's early days. Over the installed base, we're still getting more of those customers sort of through the adoption flywheel. So I think you're starting to see that pick up velocity as we've invested in more forward deployment engineers that really help customers with their adoption and getting their first scenarios live. That's been sort of a big sort of motion this quarter. But when you look at the core businesses, like our Agent Force One addition, which is our premium addition of our Sales Cloud, which allows agents to work with sellers and amplify their productivity, that's also accelerating for us. So this Agentic wave is not just about sort of kind of these functions that are customer-facing functions. It's also about the productivity of the enterprise as well. And both of those are really starting to have dividends on the business. So as these get more adopted and flywheel, that's what gives us that confidence about the second half.
The Sales Cloud did accelerate in the quarter. It was good to see that. We got a few questions. The Service Cloud did decel and everyone was like, is this just an anomaly? Is it because of the agents taking over now in service? Like what happened in terms of why excel in sales and why decel in service?
Right. One of the things I think you have to pay attention to about the Salesforce business is we've changed now our segment-based reporting. So now we used to sort of have reporting based on our cloud, Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, Marketing and Commerce Cloud, et cetera. Now we're sort of shifting that to really our apps, our Edgentech apps and our data and platform kind of business. And the reason for that is you're seeing a little bit of this maybe taxonomy shift from what used to be always in Service Cloud now has gone into the agent force line. So if you added that back into the Service Cloud, you'd actually see it not having the deceleration like you're talking about. What to pay attention to, and I think the root of the question is, are seats going away in sort of the service center because a lot of our Service Cloud has been seat driven. Service Cloud added seats this quarter. So we're adding more seats. We're adding more agents. And I think that the combination of those 2 really become the flywheel of growth acceleration for those core clouds.
When you say it added more seats, were you specific in terms of the growth?
We don't report growth of the seats, but just in a raw sort of net basis, both those clouds are adding seats. So people are still hiring in the service center. They're hiring in the sales centers. And I think as you see what is really exciting, especially with things like Agent Force One and Slack bot, we're actually bringing more people into the Salesforce ecosystem because now Slack is working with our Customer 360 applications in ways that we're inviting more people into the workflow. And I think that's really exciting for the future because now it means that we're not just limited to what sales and service teams do. Now you kind of have a bigger addressable market across the enterprise at large.
You've rightfully nailed the pricing. I mean I think it was a bus tour we came and saw you and you're like, you guys, it's not all capacity. It's going to be seats and capacity. And I think every company here has been saying the same thing, which -- and most of the people I trust in the industry, like CIOs can't just go on and just do pure capacity because they bankrupt the budget. But is it -- any new update? Is that the bill vision of the world still on pricing? Is it --...
You're the only person that's ever told me I've nailed the pricing. So thank you for that. Honestly...
I'm sure Mark doesn't say that.
No. Look, I think in general, it's really -- human labor has always been easy to predict on the basis of a seat. And I think as companies hire and they sort of have software for that human capital, that has been sort of the best way to plan. That's the best way to predict, and that's been the best way to sort of make it easy for enterprises to consume a Software-as-a-Service subscription offering like we have. Agents are different. They're not seats. They're not people, and they don't have limitations of work. And so they work 24 hours a day, not 8 hours a day like humans do. And so paying a seat is just not right for that sort of kind of entity that's working on your platform.
And so that's why the consumables make a lot more sense kind of an agent, just pay for the work that it does. So I think somewhere between that hybrid model is where you'll see this net out, I think, for the industry at large. But I would also pay attention to those consumables themselves because those are also emerging and changing. Today, most of the world is infatuated with the token. And this token sort of explosion that's happening in enterprises, it's asking -- people are starting to ask questions like are these tokens leading to yield? And so we've often heard about token maxing as a sort of strategy. Well, now the counter theory is, is this really output maxing? We know that we're actually getting content, but is that content actually producing business yield. One of the things that we're starting to do some more experimentation on is more value-based and outcome-based pricing of these consumption offerings because, again, where we want to be is the company that doesn't just sort of monetize compute and storage like a hyperscaler does, we want to monetize the outcome that comes off of the software because if companies are getting more growth or getting more savings, that's how we sort of share in that value exchange.
So I do think as our pricing continues to sort of evolve down these spectrums, we're going to have lots of different options for different kinds of companies, big and small. And I think as it sort of nets out in an aggregate sense, seat-based and consumables is the right pattern. What those consumables represent, it's going to be based on the offering that someone is consuming from us. But that's also -- you've asked me this question before, like that's why Flex credits are so important. Flex credits are a new unit of measure, a new unit of currency that companies that subscribe to the Salesforce ecosystem leverage that can work on any of the technologies. They're not buying products, they're buying capacity and output from the offerings that we serve them with. So I do think this will continue to be an evolving conversation. And our strategy when we first talked about this is we just need to meet our customers where they are on this journey, and that's what we're doing is creating offerings for them.
There's a fear right now that Anthropics come in and they're effectively going to create an overlay layer and that they're just going to surround the CRM system and your growth will stop, their growth will build. They won't replace you, but they'll create an overlay right or wrong.
Wrong. Would you like me to elaborate on that? Because I keep getting hammered by our clients on this topic. What -- well -- and I'm glad that Mark came out on the podcast and said you spent $300 million on Anthropic, which is maybe a signal that you guys are going to coexist. And yes, you might be frenemies. You might compete in some areas, but in large part, you can be friends.I think, first off, Anthropic is our customer. what Anthropic uses to transform their go-to-market strategy and accelerate their growth at Salesforce. What we use inside of our organization to drive productivity and write code is cloud. So there is definitely a coexistence sort of in our future that's there.
And look, I'm being a little facetious about like just the kind of hard answer. But if that had been true, wouldn't Slack have already kind of replaced Salesforce because that was an overlay layer for work and workflow. And it didn't replace Salesforce, it amplified Salesforce. It actually made it so that more work and workflow reached more people. And I do think that's truly what we're seeing with this moment of the builder and creator economy with Anthropic and Cloud specifically, which I use every day, it's actually helping me do more in Salesforce, not less. It's actually helping me to sort of analyze my Salesforce data and extrapolate more intelligence around my Salesforce data, but it still is most importantly, using Salesforce data.
And so I do think this is where the market likes to have these sort of binary moments of SaaS versus the token. That's not the reality. A lot of companies are working with multiple tools and multiple systems. And ultimately, that's why we saw this pattern emerge with what we call our headless strategy, which is to allow the Salesforce platform to be accessed by tools like Cloud or OpenAI's tool set or Google's tool set or even the Slack tool set because we want more people participating in the work and workflow that Salesforce represents.
What are we all getting wrong on the outside because we can't smell and breathe the inside. But what are you seeing that you're like, I wish the market would stop talking about this. They just -- maybe they can't stop talking about, but they've got it fundamentally wrong. Is there...
I don't think anyone has it fundamentally wrong. I just don't think everyone has it fundamentally right now. And I think that the questions, like I said, everyone likes to make this about binaries and offsets. -- okay, if you're no longer investing in SaaS, it's because you're investing in the tokens or some other sort of system that's there. The reality is companies come to Salesforce because they want to be better companies. They come to Salesforce because they want better outputs. They want better outcomes for what they use Salesforce for. And I don't think that the world is going to stop trying to make better companies. I think that we are just going to need to sort of utilize Salesforce in ways that powers those transformations that companies are trying to do. So I think that what the market -- where the market wants to think of this offsets in terminal value of things like seats and seat-based labor, the reality is where we're finding ourselves at Salesforce today, more work is getting done, more data is being generated, more sort of interactions are being handled, more campaigns are being executed, more orders are being driven on our commerce platforms. This is not a time of less, it's a time of more. And I think Salesforce becomes this incredible orchestrator for the enterprise to help businesses achieve more.
There's been a few comments from investors. We're at a technology transformation tectonic shift, whatever you want to call it. Everyone says, well, why spend $50 billion on a buyback when I should be leaning into the tech cycle now. We have a lot of companies that are at discount. We have a private market that's dislocated. M&A is in a tail spin right now. Like this is like go time for most of our clients, they would say, and Robin's response to me last night was, Brent, we're doing both. We are doing acquisitions. I mean, I guess you're not doing really big ones, you're doing more tuck-ins. But how do you think about this?
Yes. Look, I mean, I think Robin's answer is right. We are doing both. I mean Informatica is a great sort of signal of that. But one of the things that I think that the market may be -- we were early in sort of our acquisition of Slack a couple of years ago right ahead of the pandemic. And the market really didn't quite understand that, okay, what we're really trying to do at that time is broaden the aperture of users and sort of work and workflows that happens inside the enterprise. That was perceived as maybe a bridge too far at the time because the valuation of Slack was high.
But right now, I can guarantee as hell that we have Slack because it is becoming a modern surface for engaging work into what that's transforming to be. Informatica is another really great example. Informatica is an acquisition we completed last year, which has incredible synergies with our Data Cloud strategy because Data Cloud was really about harnessing this world of customer information. Informatica was this world of noncustomer but customer adjacent information that happens inside the company. The part to the root of the question, we want to only invest in those areas that are on our mission to transform how businesses operate, better data, better workflow, better orchestration, better outcome. Those are the kinds of acquisitions that we look at. And there's a lot of technologies out there that just really good tech, but doesn't really net into better outcomes for companies. And I think that's where we're thoughtful about what we acquire. It's really about making sure that we accelerate our strategy, which is to help companies sort of perform and operate better.
There's been a little concern around some of the departures, and I know your CPO retired, so you go to anthropic. But you have a lot of great talent. But how do you kind of calm the nerves of everyone in this room of, hey, like we're -- we feel like we're keeping the most important people.
Yes. Look, first off, I think technology and there are always sort of these moments where there's an exciting mission for companies to join. What has kept me at Salesforce since 2017 is the mission of making business the greatest platform for change. And I think that people who are still on that mission or still understand that technology's purpose is to help businesses drive sort of better results for their cities, their societies, et cetera. That's what kind of galvanates like our culture to Salesforce. It's not because we're fascinated by the next-generation models. It's not because we think about these incredible new use cases or new apps that can be built. We're committed to sort of that mission.
The talent that -- and it starts with Mark. I mean, Mark is sort of the ultimate leader, champion, spiritual adviser to all of us in the company. And I think that what Mark is really doing is finding the talent that wants to internalize that mission into this next era really to kind of drive business forward in this moment in time. So I think the leaders and leadership that we've amassed in the company and has allowed us to sort of put the right talent in the right places. myself, I started in kind of the software and product management space. I now do monetization strategy. So sometimes it's not always linear talent moves, but we put our talent in the places that drive the best yield for the company. And I think Mark is a great inspiration for getting the right talent in place here at Salesforce to drive those sort of transformations we're trying to go through.
That's great. The Marketing Commerce, Tableau, I mean, there's been some headwinds, right? So there's been -- you got some nice acceleration in sales and service stable when you include the other parts of the transaction. But marketing Commerce and Tableau have been a little bit of a headwind. Is that -- can you recover from that? Is it like what needs to happen?
Yes. Look, first off, the breadth of our portfolio is a strength. And I think that because of the strength of the portfolio, it allows us to sort of have these moments where we see acceleration in sort of some business units while others are going through more secular transformations. I think the world of marketing is going through a secular transformation. I mean it look no further than what Google just announced on the way that search is transforming for businesses today. That's going to fundamentally reshape what the world of digital marketing looks like. And so it's not a secret that a business like marketing may have moments of softness. It's that it is going through more of this transformation state about what does the future of marketing look like in that sense. Same with commerce. It used to be that you would shop online in an online commerce store.
Well, this world of commerce and commerce agents are starting to emerge. So as that market retools, those platforms have to retool as well. The good news is businesses like Sales Cloud, our long-standing sort of bread-and-butter business are having its moment. Slack is having its moment. Agentforce having its moment. So not only are businesses that we've long been in, but acquired entities like Slack and Informatica are accelerating, organic innovation like Agentforce is accelerating and even our legacy business on Sales Cloud is accelerating. So you're going to see these puts and takes, I think, as different moments emerge. But again, the strength of the Salesforce portfolio is not sort of indicative of just one unit cloud. It's really the whole that we care about.
We're getting agent to death at this conference. Don't say. Everyone's got an agent, right? So...
It's like you've driven in San Francisco and see all the boats.
You're the second presenter to bring that up back to back. How do you think this kind of settles out? I mean, right now, in your space, just in the front office, I mean, we've got like 10 vendors that are all claiming the same thing, then you have vertically aligned vendors that are in financial services. We've got -- I mean, we got every flavor of agent, and we've seen this movie before or all the movies show and then a couple of rides at the top. What...
Yes. I was actually with a customer last week, and they said that they made the comment about the San Francisco billboard. So I'm stealing it from them. But it was like literally every e-mail, every day, every call is about try my new agent. And it just can't sustain. And I think that -- so I do think incumbent vendors have an advantage because they have the opportunity to identify processes that are already established. So I think incumbency in many cycles, maybe as seen as like a curse, maybe I want to try and replace that technology. I'm not seeing that pattern. What I'm actually seeing is more companies coming to us and saying, can you identify this workflow that we have because we want to do it off of trusted data and the governance of the Salesforce platform that's long been how we've operationalized our organization.
So I do think incumbents have an advantage more so than even the upstarts at this point because they have to kind of fight for every sort of breadth of oxygen. We have something to prove, which is let's actually modernize some of the workflow that's there. Where I see it netting out, Brent, is candidly not -- we can't see thousands of entities. I think there will be consolidation. I think that as vendors like us that have a breadth of portfolios identify all that workflow, it's not just about maybe identifying each experience. It's also about how they orchestrate with one another. That's going to be, I think, where truly the rubber meets the road in terms of what stays versus what sort of just sort of fades off into the ether. So I think orchestration is sort of the next horizon. First off, everyone is in the horizon right now of taking these pilots moving into production.
Once they're in production, now let's like try and orchestrate and then rationalize. And then what kind of comes out on the end of that is probably fewer bigger agents that sort of represent more fully autonomous functions for businesses. So I think that's the transition that we're starting to see already. And a good example of that, by the way. We have a customer in retail. They just went -- they had an old -- an agent sort of service experience. What they really wanted was that agent service experience to sell digital products. Well, that company didn't have a commerce technology. So they came to Salesforce and said, okay, I'm going to replace that agent experience with Agent force because Agent force serves and sells all at once. So I think that's really this concept we call it a super agent. These super agents could do more than just one function. That's ultimately where I think this will net up to that rationalization moment.
I think maybe not this quarter, I don't know what the number was if you launched it, but the mid-market has been kind of a space that's been strong. I think you've had a good leader there. You've had -- people want to buy everything from you. They don't want to assemble it. Can you maybe just give us a sense of what's happening in the mid-market?
Well, I think you -- the signal you can look into is the packaging strategy we put together for our Agent Force One Edition. And AgentForce One for sales includes sales and Tableau and Slack. -- all in one offering for a business. Well, that means I don't have to buy a sales analytics offering. I don't have to buy a sales collaboration offering. I don't have to buy a Salesforce automation offering. I just get it from Salesforce. And so as sort of certain elements of technology, maybe this is that rationalization moment kind of showing up even in seat-based labor, the seats themselves where people have had best-of-breeds on all these different vendor functions that exist, now they want to actually consolidate a lot of that to sort of one vendor because they actually believe that when all of that information signals together, then it can fuel an agent strategy.
So I actually think they're quite symbiotic. Application consolidation leads to better data that gets unified, that leads to better agents that can perform on the outside. So this is sort of our flywheel of let's get this Agent Force One addition into more of our installed base so that we actually drive more of that data that gets generated on the similar platform that we can fuel agents to perform on behalf of the businesses.
We all do these channel checks and whether it's Atlassian or you or whatever, and a lot of the smaller system integrators are like the vendors are stealing my business. And it seems like it is a sense of maybe we're going to higher-end partners, but maybe it's just, hey, this direct relationship with the customers is becoming easier. But I don't know. It seems like it's happening across a lot of vendors. And so with the actual channel checks we all do, say are very different than actually what you produce. And is that -- it seems like a common pattern we've seen in Atlassian, too. But it seems like is this a signal, hey, it's just easier to implement the software. We don't need as many of these small partners to help.
No, I don't believe that at all. But what I believe is that the vendors have an added responsibility to help companies find value from the offerings that they've created. And because the technology is so new, a lot of technology vendors are investing in these forward deployment engineers not only to get the service sort of up and running, but also to get the key signals of how to sort of tune and optimize our offerings so we can improve the products in this moment in time. So I think one of the signals that we've done with partners like Accenture is start to now invest in not just forward deployment engineers that are Salesforce employees, but forward deployment engineers that work at Accenture that actually can work as an extension of our workforce that's there.
So I don't think it's really about closing off an ecosystem. I think it's really about making sure that -- in the early sort of days of this agentic moment, vendors have an added responsibility. We're investing with our resources. We're teaching these channel providers and service integrators how to do it the way that the software was meant to be designed and kind of retooling, I think, in this moment. So I would actually think it's more of a retool than it is about stealing their business.
Okay. Great.
That was not my quote. We're not stealing their business. We're retooling.
The verticals have been a huge strength of yours when you think about health care, pharma, insurance, maybe kind of walk through what you're most excited about there. And we always get the question about pharma, so maybe.
Well, our Life Sciences Cloud, for example, has been one of the new offerings here at Salesforce that has really had an incredible quarter. And as organizations are sort of retooling their sales forces for the future, they want to do so with modern technology. And this cloud was built from the ground up for this enngentic moment where not only is a great sales orchestration platform, but it's also a great sort of system built with agents that are actually helping kind of qualify leads and do sample management.
And so there's all kinds of great innovation that I think when you rebuild for this ground up that a cloud like life sciences cloud is innovating on that's having sort of kind of huge growth opportunities for us right now. To answer your question at large on verticals and our industry strategy at large, every industry is going through different moments of transformation. And the fact that we have not just horizontal software that is kind of a vanilla one-size-fits all, but acutely with the right compliance and the right certifications and the right workflows and the right sort of data model and the right logic for those industries sets us apart.
And I do think as we continue to see our industry strategy deliver what customers want, it's all about that faster time to value that they can get up and running and then really a software that speaks their language and speak kind of works the way that they need it to because it's been built from the ground up for all the sort of rules and regulations those industries require.
You get one vertical of up and comer for you, like there's massive, just incredible.
Yes, I'm sort of biased because life science cloud is one of our newest ones, but that's...
Life science would be the one.
I'm very excited there. But I would also say public sector has had a lot of strengths for us. Our manufacturing areas have a lot of strengths, financial services, health care, they are all going through degrees of transformation. And I think health care is always the one that in our country anyway, we have a lot -- this is sort of, again, why you work at Salesforce. because we believe that we can transform health care in such a profound way with now digital agents on the front end of those experiences. And I think that's why even yesterday in earnings, we had UCLA Medical online with us talking about how we're fundamentally just changing the business of health care. So that's something we all benefit here from California. But ultimately, as a society, we benefit from because we can really make the health care system more equitable for everybody.
Any questions from the audience?
Could you just talk about the acceleration in the second half? I know it was our first question. But is your visibility because you're giving people free tokens and they have to work through them and then they'll buy more? Or is it just a function of time to deploy, you know they're deploying it and doesn't happen until then...
Yes. I would say very much -- what is giving us confidence is the pilot to production sort of movement, right, that's there. And the signal was the hiring that we did really around our 4 deployment engineers to help with that hiring velocity to take shape. So I think that's really kind of what gives us a lot of that confidence is moving through the deployment kind of side. And this is not like linear deployment where like traditional CRM software, if you deployed it, you would kind of knew how to kind of fit a process, a workflow, et cetera. These agents are very different. They are -- they have different capabilities, and they have different scale. And so a lot of this is more about change management than it is about hands-on keyboard writing code. That's the easy part. The hard part is getting companies to understand many of the processes that you have in your organization today were built with an era of human constraint in mind. Well, now you don't have that same kind of constraint. So how would we just go back to the drawing board and design it altogether?
I feel like 6, 8 months ago, we were saying that there would be acceleration, it was just because of lapping the soft renewals years and then growing faster and now different answer is that now it's about agent force and that adoption, not just the fact that it was going to accelerate regardless of what just based on the core getting better.
Yes. I don't -- I'm not here to kind of comment about what we said last time and what we said this time. I'm just telling you what it is. What it is right now is we have a lot of people that have agent force and a lot of people that are in their deployment of agent force. And that is how we see the kind of the excitement about the second half is just the sheer volume of activity that's out there.
I know you guys haven't talked much about the inference cost side of things other than the other seems like you're trying to successfully growing the inference business and you're using pricing mechanisms as a lever to account for what the costs are going to be. My rough guess would be you guys are looking at a $5 billion inference bill over the next few years. Do you feel like you have any levers to sort of confront the COGS issue of having agents out there doing 1,000x more than human do?
Yes, for sure. I think that, again, as I was sort of mentioning in the last gentleman's question, many of these processes in the past were based on what humans could do. And now with agents sort of having limitless capacity and limitless availability, it opens up a whole new sort of transformation for what businesses are trying to do around kind of how they operate and in an always-on manner. So as you sort of look at what is -- where we see the sort of maybe groundswell of inference and tokens kind of hitting our world, this is where I think we have a smart architecture around how we build Agent force.
I don't need to call an LLM to give you an e-mail address. I can just query our database to give you that. And so our technologies that we've built inside of AgentForce, which we call our Atlas reasoning engine, both has deterministic and nondeterministic sort of scenarios inside of it. And increasingly so, what we find is we can help companies be more efficient in actually using their tokens because honestly, today, if you're just using Claude and you're trying to kind of query a profile, you're burning a lot of tokens for something that was a simple SQL query. So this is allowing us to really be more efficient at the tokenization of the enterprise. And I do think that sort of architecture is allowing us to make it much more economical for customers. And we're not just pushing it on to the customers themselves. We're actually working with them around how to reengineer, reoptimize sort of their work.
Anything else you think the -- I know you mentioned like it's not just, hey, like one takes off and everyone else loses. Any other kind of things you're hearing kind of from our side that you feel need clarification?
No. Look, I think there is -- as you classify sort of different technology companies, obviously, there's the hyperscalers who have a different business model than the SaaS providers do today. The hyperscalers really were built for this moment of just letting the meters turn. And the more the meters that turn, the happier they sort of make their money off of. That's not what we're here to do at Salesforce. We're not trying to be a hyperscaler. What we're really wanting to be is probably the world's first hyper value provider, which is we can provide massive sort of ability for companies to come into this ecosystem but ultimately drive better performance of their business. So we're not -- I don't pay a lot of time or attention thinking about like how many tokens that fulfills our work.
What I care about is that our customers come to us and they perform better as an organization. That's why this signal of more outcome or value-based sort of pricing as a new lever for us puts us into a shared value space for what our clients expect when they come to our platform that they're getting utility from. So that's where I would really kind of think about kind of maybe my ask is taxonomize different companies for really what is the pure function that they're aligning to do. And for us at Salesforce, like I said, the world is going to be made off of companies that perform better with this technology. That's our mission.
We really appreciate your support. And hopefully, we get the new Head of IR down here. We heard a really, really cool guy and I didn't get the call. So I'm feeling a little left out.
I know if you took the call. No, I'm kidding.
Looking forward having, Mark.
Thank you. Thank you. Really appreciate.
To you.
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Salesforce — Jefferies Software
Salesforce setzt auf Agent‑Strategie (Agent Force) als Wachstumstreiber, kombiniert mit nutzungsbasierter Preisgestaltung und orchestrierbarer Plattformintegration.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Agent‑Fokus: Agent Force (KI‑gestützte Agenten) steht im Zentrum: Pilot→Produktion‑Bewegung soll im 2. Hj. für spürbare Beschleunigung sorgen.
- Plattformwandel: Slack‑Integration, Data Cloud + Informatica und neue Packaging‑Ansätze erhöhen die adressierbare Basis und fördern Konsolidierung bei Kunden.
- Preisinnovation: Wechsel von reinen Sitzmodellen zu Consumables, Flex‑Credits und ergebnisorientierten Modellen wird aktiv getestet.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Adoptions‑Flywheel: Investitionen in Forward‑Deployment‑Ingenieure treiben Umstellung von Piloten auf produktive Nutzung und liefern Sichtbarkeit für H2‑Wachstum.
- Architektur: Eigenes Atlas‑Reasoning‑Layer kombiniert deterministische Logik mit LLM‑Aufrufen, um Inferenzkosten zu senken und Tokens gezielter einzusetzen.
- M&A‑Fokus: Tuck‑ins, die Daten, Orchestrierung oder Workflow‑Outcome verbessern (z. B. Informatica) statt große Opportunitäts‑Akquisitionen.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Deployment‑Signal: Konkrete Personalaufstockung bei Deployment‑Teams als Beleg für Beschleunigungs‑These; Kunden bewegen sich verstärkt in Produktionsphasen.
- Inference‑Ansatz: Betonung auf Effizienz (DB‑Queries statt LLM‑Calls) und Produktarchitektur statt reiner Token‑Monetarisierung.
- Preismodell‑Roadmap: Erwähnung von Flex‑Credits und pilotierten Value/Outcome‑Pricing‑Optionen für Verbrauchsangebote.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- H2‑Beschleunigung: Kernfrage: Echt sichtbare Umsatzbeschleunigung oder Timing‑Effekt? Management sieht Pilot→Produktion als Haupttreiber, nicht nur Gratis‑Token.
- COGS/Inferenz: Sorge um hohe Inferenzkosten; Antwort: Architekturreduzieren LLM‑Aufrufe, Effizienzsteigerung und Preismechaniken sollen Kostenrisiko begrenzen.
- Ökosystem/Overlay‑Risiko: Diskussion über Anthropic/Overlay‑Anbieter: Salesforce sieht Coexistenz und Verstärkung der Plattform, nicht ersetzende Gefahr.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Investoren bekommen ein klares Path‑to‑Value‑Narrativ: Agenten‑Adoption plus Plattform‑Orchestrierung könnten Salesforce Wachstumstempo und ARPU langfristig heben. Risiken bleiben operativ (Deployment‑Execution), Kosten (Inference/COGS) und Markt‑Konsolidierung bei Agent‑Anbietern; Pricing‑Innovation bietet aber Hebel zur Monetarisierung.
Salesforce — Q1 2027 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Salesforce First Quarter Fiscal 2027 Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Spencer, Executive Vice President of Finance. Sir, you may begin.
Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today on our fiscal 2027 first quarter results conference call. Our press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our website. Joining me on the call today is Marc Benioff, Chair and CEO; Robin Washington, Chief Operating and Finance Officer. We also have Patrick Stokes, President and Chief Marketing Officer; Miguel Milano, President and Chief Revenue Officer; and Srini Tallapragada, President and Chief Engineering and Success Officer, joining us for the Q&A portion of the call. Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements.
A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions or other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results and guidance can be found in our earnings materials and press release. And with that, let me hand the call over to Marc.
All right. Fantastic. Thanks so much, Mike. I'm so excited to be here with everybody and great to do our second video earnings call with you, and it's really great. It's a gorgeous day in San Francisco, and we're going to have a great time here with you. We've even got a couple of customers joining us, which we're really excited about. Well, I think as everybody can see, this was really an outstanding quarter for Salesforce. We have delivered record revenue, record deals and just incredible cash flow. And of course, I think we've also returned record levels to our investors, and we're going to talk about that and how important that is, especially during this unusual time. So we're going to come into that. And also, by the way, we also mentioned we have some record token counts. I think we're going to talk about how we processed 28.6 trillion tokens, up 152% quarter-over-quarter, no greater example of the tremendous adoption of these new Agentic products by our customers and how we've converted those into 3.8 billion Agentic work units.
Agentic AI, well, it's the biggest growth opportunity for our customers, for us at Salesforce. And since we brought CRM into the cloud, we're just seeing tremendous new innovation every single day. And you can see it in our products. You can see it in our customer momentum. You can see it in our results. Salesforce has never been more essential to our customers. We're going to hear from them in just a second. And we're the #1 Agentic CRM, transforming every company into an Agentic enterprise.
Now let me tell you about these amazing Q1 numbers. Revenue was $11.13 billion, up 13% year-over-year nominal and 12% in constant currency. CRPO $33.6 billion, up approximately 14% nominal and 13% in constant currency. And Q1 non-GAAP operating margin of 34.8%, up 250 basis points, again, hitting some record levels. GAAP operating margin of 21.1%, up 130 basis points, pretty awesome, and we delivered $6.7 billion in operating cash flow. Tens of thousands of businesses across every industry are building their Agentic enterprises with Salesforce. We're going to talk about that today. And OpenAI, Anthropic Google companies building the future of AI, all of them Salesforce customers, all of them Slack customers, building these incredible new capabilities with Agentforce. We secured a record 98 Q1 deals with over $1 million in new ACV in the quarter, 98 Q1 deals with over $1 million. Miguel is going to talk about that today.
Organizations like LVMH, Chobani, the U.S. Air Force, which, by the way, just signed a new $72 million ELA with us during the quarter, awesome. And we're seeing incredible demand for Agentforce with ARR now greater than $1 billion. And combined with Data 360 and Informatica Cloud, we've delivered $3.4 billion in AI and data ARR. 50% of Agentforce and Data 360 bookings were from existing customers expanding their commitment. And to date, we processed 28.6 trillion tokens, up 152% quarter-over-quarter and converted them into 3.8 billion, as I mentioned already, Agentic Work Units for our customers, up 11% -- sorry, up 111% quarter-over-quarter. Agentforce now powering every Customer 360 application, and it's changing how organizations operate across service, sales, marketing, commerce and so much more. Nowhere is this more evident than in customer service. Let's just start right there with Agentforce service.
Humans and agents collaborate across every channel from first contact to first resolution across the trinity of channels, voice, website, apps is a great example. You're going to hear in a moment, UCLA Health. If you go to uclahealth.org, you'll see right away, Agentforce is there to help you get your questions answered to connect with their physicians, to connect with their technology at UCLA. It's a great example using our most current version of Agentforce. And since we deployed Agentforce on help.salesforce.com and on 1-800-NO-SOFTWARE, well, only 15 months ago, it's autonomously handled now 4 million inquiries. It's now double what human agents are handling. Every customer can turn this on now. So many customers are seeing incredible results with Agentforce service.
Vivino, the world's largest wine company supporting 74 million users with only 37 reps, kind of hard to believe, but it's possible because its Agent Vivina, autonomously handles order status, lookups, account questions, more autonomously slashing resolution time by 70%. McAfee has selected our new Agentforce ITSM product or what we call Agentforce IT service to replace ServiceNow. They are using it for everything, ticket deflection, hardware provisioning, incident management, really cool. And Florida Prepaid, a college savings plan provider with more than 200,000 accounts is using Agentforce voice to autonomously handle 75% of business hour calls and 100% of after-hour calls. And with Agentforce sales, we're powering the entire revenue life cycle from first lead to close deal.
And as I said before, over 25 years, Salesforce has generated tens of millions of leads. We never called back. In Q1 alone, Agentforce sales worked 220,000 leads autonomously, generating $42 million in pipeline, awesome. So I'm more excited about what our customers are doing in service, in sales, in marketing and Slack and all of these things. Another great example, cybersecurity leader, Fortinet using Agentforce sales to power predictive lead scoring. Financial leader, AgriBank now built an SDR agent that instantly qualifies leads on WhatsApp. You can go to salesforce.com and even see our own qualification system running right on our homepage as well.
Okay. In Q1, we completed the acquisition of the Qualified and Integrated Piper, their SDR agent into Salesforce, brought all those great Salesforce alumni back home. More than 700 customers are already using Piper. It's an incredible success, and we deployed Piper on salesforce.com, as I mentioned. So you're going to be able to use it firsthand. I think that's so great. It's engaging 50% of our traffic and qualifying thousands of leads and delivering 45% more pipeline than traditional web agents. Also very excited about our new Agentforce Coworker, which we announced last week. If you haven't heard about that, every single one of our Salesforce applications now comes with a built-in autonomous agent. No complex configuration. You just turn it on. It becomes your coworker, finding answers, taking action, getting work done fast. To give you an idea of the impact that coworker will have, people search for information inside Salesforce 1 billion times a month.
Coworker turns search into answers and answers into action. And one of our trailblazers, Andrew Russo, you probably saw him respond directly to me on X kind of was a surprise, but he said, there's no way this is real life right now. Agentforce Coworker was able to pull together and navigate our complex sales and ERP data to answer questions that just yesterday would have been 60 minutes of swivel chairing between screens and systems. It was pretty cool to see that. And I'll tell you this quarter, we also announced Headless 360, again, making all of Salesforce accessible through our MCP clients, APIs, CLA prompts, Headless 360 bringing together the human agents and headless platforms so you can use Salesforce with any coding agent across any surface. It's going to speed implementations, drive consumption, more actions, more workflow, more data, more intelligence, all compounding across Salesforce.
We're meeting our customers where they are since launch in April. We've already processed 4.5 million MCP calls into our platform. Q1 alone, we processed nearly 1 trillion API calls, incredible. And with Headless 360, indeed is building and deploying Agentforce agents right from Cursor and Just Eat Takeaway, one of the leading online food delivery platforms in Europe. We just had them speak to our entire management team with such an amazing story, is using Headless 360 already to bring agents into WhatsApp and other channels, engaging with 350,000 partners across 15 countries.
So now let's talk about our favorite Slack, which every AI company in the Bay Area here is using to run their business, including OpenAI and Anthropic transforming our customers into Agentic enterprise. Slack was nearly half of our 1 million-plus wins this quarter, up 80% year-over-year. It is a rocket ship to the moon. All of the AI companies run on Slack. As I mentioned, I don't think there's a start-up or next-gen AI company that doesn't run on Slack, Anthropic calls Slack, it's core operating system, and that's what Slack is becoming for every enterprise. All of our apps are Slack first. So now a service agent can summarize a case, update the record, escalate to a human right in Slack. And Slackbot is also an MCP client, so you can tell it to create a purchase order in NetSuite or update a project in Jira, and it happens, no switching tools.
We've seen 1 million users of Slack MCP in the first 6 weeks, and Slack AWUs grew nearly 350% quarter-over-quarter. In 2 years, there'll be more agents using Slack than people. Every one of those agents needs the context and the data and the insights directly from Slack. Every workflow needs the data. Every action needs the integration and every customer needs to see what's happening across the entire business. We have the largest collection of trusted CRM context ever assembled between Data 360, Informatica, MuleSoft, Tableau, manage and deliver all that context so that any agent can reason, act and deliver real outcomes.
Informatica has an amazing acquisition. It performed incredibly well this quarter. It's doing the heavy lifting and data management that every customer needs to move from pilot to production. All of this is why we're the #1 Agentic CRM, and we provide what every company needs to become an Agentic enterprise. Okay. So now let's keep going. And with Headless 360, the entire platform is accessible. We have some new people joining us at the table. So it's very exciting. Great to see everybody. And we're transforming and more importantly, our customers are transforming too. Okay. All right. Anyway, here we are. Let's move on to what's really important. So welcome. Thank you for being here. We're thrilled that you're here and would you just introduce yourself to everybody because I don't think they know.
James Schenck, President and CEO of PenFed Credit Union, headquartered in Tysons, Virginia.
And is this your first time in San Francisco?
In here a few times, been with Salesforce...
Usually, I see you in D.C. So happy that you're here with us and grateful that you're here. So why don't you tell us a little about -- you've been using Salesforce a while at PenFed. You've had this vision of becoming an Agentic enterprise. Why don't you tell us what's happening? We heard you a little bit on your earnings call. I think everyone should hear you on our earnings call, too.
Let me just tell you the why. So I started in financial services 25 years ago. There was -- I'm sorry, 18,400 banks and credit unions. There's 8,000 today. Think about that. 500 credit unions and banks are either merged or beaten out of existence every year. And so we knew we had to change. We've been around for 91 years and to remain relevant, we realized we need to partner with somebody that can sort of rebuild our tech deck to take us to a new level.
So you are motivated.
Super motivated. You got to be hungry every day. I was 6.5 like you when I started. I'm 5.6 today.
All right. So now tell us a little more about what have you done? What's the vision?
So about 2 years ago, I was actually at World Tour in New York City, and I saw some other partners, their vision of what they thought it can do for the member experience. When we're competing against 8,000 other firms, we got to deliver hyper-personalization and every transaction, we do about 500 transactions a second, 160 million member transactions a year. They have to be right anywhere in the world real time. So we built our entire platform over the last few years. We went from about 400 platforms down to literally 12 strategic partners. Our call center, our mobile, our web and our branches all run on Salesforce.
Every additional partner or tech siloed capability is a tax on innovation, it's a tax on speed and it's a tax on security. So by building it around Salesforce, I really think it's taking me 25 years to realize Jim Collins' Flywheel Effect, we have 76 agents now running across operations, mortgages, IT, HR. All of our areas are adopting it to make our employees be more productive. We like to say they're Bionic employees now. We're not losing employees. We're able to add more volume at scale, industrialized scale with the same number of people, and we're very proud of that.
Well, you've heard the narrative on the SaaSpocalypse. Everybody has heard of this crazy thing that these AI apps are transforming software, which it definitely is true. All of our products are just so much better because of it. But how is it impacting how you're using Salesforce?
Let me just talk about how people make a buying decision because I hear some of these stories. Somebody knocks in your door, are you going to open the door and give them the keys to your safe or the code to your safe to your family's jewels. So every day, a CEO of any firm is going to get 50 calls. Somebody can do it different or better. How is the decision really made? First of all, does the firm, in this case, Salesforce have the product and service that we need? Second, do you have the engineers, the architects, the professionals to work with my team in order to bring that vision to reality? And then lastly, even if another firm had those first 2, who is the firm standing behind it that can be there through good times and bad times that's going to stand behind that product or service. When you line up all 3, that's where a good trusted partnership exists. That's why we went with Salesforce.
So we work with your team literally hand in hand. We said we want to streamline processes. We want to take out latency in the code. We want to do X, Y or Z. Your team was there in the trenches at every level, engineers, architects, building out the vision. But then it's not just pie in the sky on the white [ sheet ], it's implementable. We have 76 agents running side by side with our employees. A good example is in our call centers. We have Agent Wingman. I'm an aviator, so I think they named it because I like Wingman. Agent Wingman is going to save me nearly $1.6 million this year, has decreased our call handle time 10% this year, 50% reduction in after-call work time and 40% reduction in held calls. So better experience for the member. Remember, they can go 8,000 other institutions. I want them to have a great experience each and every time with PenFed. It's got to be right each and every time.
Yet I want my employees to do the knowledge work, building trust in the relationship, not entering what just happened on the phone call. We have agents that listen to the phone call, transcribe it. The human is still in the loop. They approve what was just talked about, but then it's 360, if the transaction occurred in the branch, web, mobile. So the next person that deals with that consumer, that member, they know exactly the relationship. They know what we might want to sell them next or what they need next for their daughter or their graduation. So it's creating a hyper-personalized omnichannel experience without having 400 people I need to meet with. I have 12 strategic partners that are allowing us to power the business.
And you've kind of alluded to this, but obviously, thank you for your service as well and just tell us about your members and how important they are to our country.
We've been serving those. We started out as The War Department Credit Union in 1935. We support the men and women who serve our nation across the national security community and all Americans who support them anywhere in the world. That's why it has to be right, correct, real-time industrial strength, and we're very proud of that.
Well, we're very proud to have you as a Salesforce customer. Before we wrap it up today, is there anything that you think other financial service leaders like yourself or other folks who are thinking about implementing agent technology should know?
It occurs faster than you think. So literally, we had the vision when we saw what was possible 2 years ago. You can build it quickly. The most important thing is having the right partner and not to have too many partners. Too many partners slow things down.
Fantastic. James, we couldn't be more thrilled to have you here today.
Thanks, Marc.
And it's great to have you in San Francisco. And thanks for everything you're doing for the whole country and for everyone. Thank you so much. Great to be with you. All right. We're so happy to have James here, and thank you for coming to San Francisco. Unbelievable, to have him here is so great. And I think that, that's such a critical message. And then we have another customer with us as well, UCLA Health, another great customer. They're using Agentforce to support 450 patients a day. I'm not going to go through all the details. Please welcome our good friends here, Pallavi and also Michael. So guys, welcome, and thanks for coming on the show here with us.
Thanks, Marc.
Thanks for having us.
Well, why don't you tell us your story? You just heard James' story. Why don't we hear your story down at UCLA Health. I already told everyone to go to uclahealth.org and look at Agentforce. But can you tell us a little bit about what you're doing?
Sure. So we've been working with Salesforce for quite a few years. But most recently, we've consolidated into one single instance of Health Cloud, and we've built on top of that with Marketing Cloud, Data 360 and most recently launched our first experiment with Agentforce, and that's a customer-facing chatbot that just -- it's -- right now, it's only scraping our website to act as a little bit of a virtual concierge to direct patients to where they need to go. It's helping with find a provider. It's helping with general inquiries. It's helping with clinical trials. And the way I like to think about it is each of those topics may have been a phone call. They may have been an e-mail. They may have been an onus put upon the patient, but now it's really -- it's a one-stop shop for the patient as opposed to them in a time of need, it's getting them their answers faster.
Well, I'll tell you, it's so exciting to have you with us, and there are so many health care institutions doing so much for you. I actually have a press release here about CVS Health is going to launching something tomorrow with us. And I just want to just say you guys are way ahead of everyone else. There's so many people with a lot of conservatism in the health care industry and deploying agents. What's your message to them in regards to -- I already said you can go right to your website and see it, but what is your message to your peers or to others who are considering deploying Agentic technology?
I would say it took a while for us to sort of dip our toe in the water in the customer-facing space. We're doing a lot on the back end when it comes to research, but this really has an impact on our operations. And we took a lot of precautions. This particular product really helped us from a testing perspective. There were a lot of protocols in place that allowed us to validate every step that we were taking. And that offered a lot of certainty for senior leadership to kind of sign off on the first experiment that we took here.
Outstanding. Pallavi, give us the technical know-how, the detail here. It's in the SaaSpocalypse, as you know. So how do you look at the SaaSpocalypse? You're an expert in this area. You're deploying the technology. Give us your insight.
Yes, absolutely. I think fundamentally, we're looking at this technology with our business problem in mind of health care systems are stretched so thin, how do we help and support our health care workers and how do we help and support our patients get access to care faster. So for us, this is a technology as is anything, how do we best utilize this technology to service and address those pain points operationally, make our staff faster and help our patients. That's really what's driving us and really how we approach this. As Mike mentioned, we're using the same oversight, same policies and procedures that we need to, to deploy these types of technologies.
Well, Pallavi, you deployed our most current version of Agentforce, incredible what you've done with it and the whole multimedia experience, the integration with the call center, every capability, you're connecting your physicians, delivering the technical know-how of UCLA right to your clients. Just give us give us your just biggest surprise deploying this technology. What was it that you just really just hit you with that was like, wow, this is what everybody should know.
I think with any technology implementation, the biggest thing that we take away is how much debt we've built up from a workflow standpoint, how much technical or people debt that we create and then we get mired in this, this is the way that things have to be. So this is really an opportunity for us to open the door and say there's a way we can do things differently. Can we solve the problems of yesterday and start to make a new enterprise for tomorrow. So that's really how we've been approaching it. We were excited that we were able to stand up our first agent use case that Mike led within 8 months. So we're really looking forward to what's next and how can we scale and capitalize on this technology next.
All right. Mike, there's the question. What's next? And how are you going to capitalize on this technology as the next step?
That's actually -- the other great thing about this is there's been a lot of insights that our own patients have led us down and Agentforce has actually been great about sort of consolidating and chunking each of those. So whether it's what systems do we give Agentforce access to, what capabilities do we ask it to do for us. So next, we're looking at potential integrations with MyChart. I think that's probably one that's relatively high on the list. But we also want to start having some assistance with our back-office functions as well. So there's a couple of different things.
Well, I want to just thank both of you for being on the call. We're so thrilled to have you. We're thrilled to have you as a customer, and I hope you'll not only continue to drive us forward, but also inspire our other customers as well. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Robin Washington.
Thanks a lot, Marc. Well, you've just heard the case for Salesforce as the #1 Agentic CRM. The financials behind it tell the same story. So let me start with the drivers behind the numbers, why our growth is durable and how we're funding it with operational excellence. And I want to update you on our capital allocation strategy, which, as Marc said, is driving long-term shareholder value. One framing note before I walk you through the quarter. This is our first quarter under the new FY '27 revenue disclosure framework. As agents transform how we build, sell and serve customers, our new framework reflects that Agentforce is now deeply embedded across every one of our applications. So please review our earnings deck for additional details on this.
So starting with our durable growth drivers. Sales, Service and Slack are at the core of the #1 Agentic CRM, collectively representing more than 60% of Q1 net new AOV. Agentforce ARR surpassed the $1 billion mark this quarter. Our largest applications, Sales and Service saw year-over-year seat growth with humans and agents both expanding on the platform. Bookings for A1E and A4X, our premium SKUs anchored in sales and service, including the value from our Agentic capabilities, grew nearly 60% year-over-year. As customers adopt Agentforce, they expand across our platform. On average, our top 10 customers by Q1 AWU usage have increased their total Salesforce spend by 1.5x in the last year.
And now with Informatica as part of Data 360, we're already unlocking synergies with revenue growth accelerating since the acquisition. This is the flywheel we laid out at our Investor Day, and it's working. Those signals show up in the headline numbers. Q1 revenue came in at $11.13 billion, up 12% in constant currency, ahead of our guide. The outperformance was driven by Informatica's on-prem business and professional services timing. CRPO ended the quarter at $33.6 billion, up approximately 13% in constant currency, driven by continued momentum in Agentforce, Data360 and Slack. Both metrics were partially offset by softness in commerce and in Tableau. We're driving durable growth through operational excellence. We call our internal playbook Customer Zero. We're our own first customer, leveraging our products to run our business. It's how we're building a lean Agentic Enterprise and driving profitable growth. And it is keeping us on track for our FY '30 Rule of 50 framework.
In Q1, AI coding tools enabled us to double the amount of features and codes shipped year-over-year, while simultaneously reducing incidents and defects. Slackbot, which is embedded directly into the flow of work, is now our fastest adopted AI tool in Salesforce's history, driving 3.8 million hours of annualized productivity gains for our employees. It has become a daily driver of my own productivity as well. And disciplined execution continues to underpin our responsible capital return strategy. Underscoring our confidence in the future, we commenced the largest ever $25 billion accelerated share repurchase, or ASR, representing half of our $50 billion share repurchase authorization. Combined with our buyback program, this reduced Q1 diluted share count 10% year-over-year.
Our ASR alone decreased Q1 share count by 103 million shares, representing 11% of shares outstanding. And it increased our Q1 non-GAAP earnings per share and GAAP earnings per share by $0.23 and $0.14, respectively. Turning to our outlook for the year. Building on the momentum from the second half of last year, we expect first half net new AOV growth to outpace AOV growth and drive organic revenue reacceleration in the second half of FY '27. Before discussing the numbers, a few key assumptions in our guide.
Our Q2 and FY '27 revenue guidance reflect continued momentum in Agentforce, Data 360 and Slack, partially offset by ongoing weakness in Marketing and Commerce and increased softness in Tableau bookings and renewals. We also expect greater license revenue volatility with the addition of Informatica on-prem revenue to our business. Now moving to the numbers. We are raising the midpoint of our FY '27 revenue guidance to $45.9 billion to $46.2 billion. And we continue to expect subscription and support growth of approximately 11% year-over-year in constant currency. We are reiterating our non-GAAP operating margin guidance of 34.3% and adjusting our GAAP operating margin guidance to 20.6%, largely driven by higher restructuring.
Our recent debt issuance tied to the successful initial delivery of our ASR resulted in an approximately 5-point headwind to operating cash flow and free cash flow. As a result, we are updating our guidance for both metrics to grow 4% to 5% year-over-year. We expect Q2 revenue of $11.27 billion to $11.35 billion, growth of approximately 10% in constant currency. Q2 CRPO growth is expected to be approximately 13% year-over-year in constant currency. Our guidance reflects the strength of our balanced portfolio and reinforces our confidence in our second half revenue acceleration, enabling us to achieve our FY '30 framework. And looking ahead, the Headless 360 strategy that Marc walked through expands our addressable market into surfaces we've never previously monetized. That's the next leg of our path to FY '30. Back to you, Mike.
Thank you, Robin. Operator, we'd like to move to questions now. I'll ask each participant to limit to one question in respect for others on the call. With that, operator, we'll take the first question.
[Operator Instructions] Your first question will come from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
2. Question Answer
Marc, I'm curious to get your thoughts on just the transformation to an AI-led story. The Agentforce numbers are great to see. But what else in terms of what you're most excited about? What are you seeing in the signals from the customer pipeline? And any other metrics that you're excited about that you can share with us that perhaps we can't see?
Well, that's why I thought it's so important that we move to this video concept for the earnings call and also that you get to hear directly from the customers. And I think we're trying to pick out a couple of customers every quarter that can kind of I would say that they are -- kind of represent all of our customers in transformation. And I think that what's exciting is that the technology is really dramatically impacting how these customers are able to deliver their own results, which is why we even saw James bring this to his earnings call. So I'm going to say that what we're going to do is we're going to continue to make that happen. Now let me just give you my personal perspective. We're using it ourselves more than ever before. I kind of mentioned in the quarter, you see the service numbers. If you go to help.salesforce.com that we've delivered more than 4 million autonomous service transactions in a relatively short order, it's kind of hard to believe.
Even if you go to 1-800-NO-SOFTWARE and you press 2 and you get into the service queue and you bypass our sales organization, you'll notice it's all autonomous. You even kind of authenticate in autonomously. The Agentforce will work with you. And then if at some point, Agentforce kind of says it can't answer your question, it goes and then brings a human in directly to help work with it in resolving your problem. Also in the quarter, you saw like we qualified huge numbers of leads autonomously. We've just really never been able to do that before. I think every customer is going to be doing that. You saw we also bought qualified.
And we have this kind of SDR sales agent kind of going outbound as well, helping to kind of understand our own business. We're modeling this for all of our customers so that they can do this as well. Or even in how I'm using Slack every day, I use Slackbot to kind of give me insights into my business to really look at everything that's happening with my core business, I can then get that insight. In every aspect of my business, agents are transforming how I operate my business. As you heard in UCLA Health or in PenFed, it's transforming their business. From a technology perspective, the biggest thing that happened in the quarter from my perspective was that Agentforce is now available and replaces essentially Salesforce search.
So for those of you who are Salesforce users, the millions of people who use Salesforce every day, the search bar is a critical part of how the application operates. Now Agentforce is that search bar. So you can not only search and aggregate and get insights into information throughout every single app we have, but also create agents, and those agents can appear in Slack and Microsoft Teams and other applications, even in an app that's going to run directly on your phone called Salesforce Coworker. That is the biggest exciting technology because that is going to be technology that you're not going to have to implement, you're not going to have to rebuild things.
All of a sudden, this Agentic technology is directly enhancing every single one of our applications from our financial services cloud to our health care cloud, every app we have. So that's what's really exciting. And I just think that the speed of innovation and the speed of change is what's awesome. And then the rate of innovation, it far exceeds the ability for customer adoption. That's why bringing these customers in to help model for other customers what they can do is really mission-critical right now.
With that, it looks like we have Keith up for the next question. Keith?
Excellent. Thank you for the call. And congratulations with all the momentum behind Agentforce and those AWUs accelerating in the quarter. I think the investor debate right now is about the timing and how that translates into strength for the broader business. And the question I wanted to ask was where you guys garner your confidence of a back half organic subscription revenue acceleration because we haven't seen outperformance in CRPO over the last 2 quarters. This quarter was spot in line with your guidance last quarter was as well. And it feels like the bookings trends are lagging a little bit. It feels like Tableau is dragging on the business a little bit, Commerce Cloud dragging on the business. So can you help us put those 2 sides of the debate, like really strong KPIs from agent force, but the bookings not really looking to come through over the past 2 quarters and how you sustain confidence in that back half acceleration?
Yes, Keith, maybe I'll start with the question and have Miguel and others chime in as well. So you're right. Overall, I would say Q1 and our Q2 guide show very strong CRPO. It is a leading indicator for us. But also keep in mind, we raised our overall guidance for the year. And the 2 metrics that we've talked about going all the way back to October is the acceleration of net new AOV greater than AOV. We saw that in the last half of FY '26, and we also are seeing it and have huge confidence in it for the first half of '27. What that will lead to is a reacceleration of our core revenue growth in the second half of the year. And that's what I'd really ask you to kind of hone into. There's a lot of momentum that drives behind that. We've talked about our big deal motion. Miguel can talk about it more.
Clearly, we've seen the success with Agentforce and Data 360. I'd say that over 50% of those bookings came from existing customers refilling the tank. So we're definitely seeing good usage. Our pipeline is very strong. We've also see an opportunity to expand our TAM. So I'll let Miguel maybe go on into a little bit more details. But I think not only about CRPO, I think about our commitment and confidence relative to reacceleration growth is really the driver of how we see our bookings going forward.
Maybe -- thank you, Robin. Maybe to add a few other metrics under the hood a little bit. We feel very comfortable. Obviously, we like the headline numbers. But I also like, in particular, the strength of our core business. You alluded to the net new AOV acceleration. We are confident on the reacceleration of our subscription and support business in constant currency organically. By the way, in the H2, we also have another business we acquired, which is Informatica. Informatica was a business that was growing single digit, both on bookings and revenue. In just 2 quarters, we have significantly reaccelerated that the bookings of the chart beyond anybody's expectation because data is king. Well, my daughter told me "dad says data is king" because I have 3 daughters. It's on the booking front.
But on the revenue front, we've seen a huge acceleration. Now we are -- in last quarter and this quarter, we are -- obviously, it's subject to the timing of some of the on-prem renewals, but we are in double-digit growth. So I like a lot of things about our core business, which is very important. You alluded to big deals. Oh my God, Marc, 98 deals above $1 million of net new AOV in combination, the top 10 deals, focus on the top 10 deals. In combination, the whole booking, the annual incremental booking grew 60%. When you look at the TCV, which goes in the RPO, we added approximately $800 million. That's 2.5x the same 10 deals last year, the top 10 deals. 7 -- this is a beautiful statistic, 7 of the top 10 deals added seats, new seats. This is the new way that we have to monetize AI. We have 3 new ways -- 3 ways and then one more way that coming up, as you alluded to.
The first one is we are upgrading the existing seats of our customers so that they -- the same users, human users can use unlimitedly AI. And this is the A1E that increased 60% in the quarter because there is a big uplift on those seats. Second, we are finding new pockets of seats that now with our transformed clouds, our clouds are not the same. We transform individually every one of our clouds. Our Sales Cloud, I've been using Sales Cloud for 15 years. It's totally different. Our -- I mean now we have Agentic PDR. I can talk to my Sales Cloud. I mean, I don't want to say this because Parker already said it, I log into my Sales Cloud less because I can -- I have access to so many ways to interrogate my Sales Cloud, Commerce Cloud, Marketing Cloud, everything has been transformed. There is a big growth.
So now the ROI of those clouds are higher. So there are pockets of users that before they couldn't afford buying us, now they're buying 7 of the top 10 deals included. And then the biggest way that we have to monetize AI is with customer-facing use cases by selling Flex Credits, by putting fuel in the tank 6 of the top 10 deals, 6 of the top 10 deals were AELAs, unlimited enterprise license agreement, where we threw in a bunch of Flex Credits and customers are deploying use case after use case, channel after channel. They're going deterministic, they're going to voice. So I'm very confident on the reacceleration in H2. And we're very optimistic on the whole overall business.
And maybe the last thing I'd ask on CRPO, Keith, is remember, it's also subject to renewal timing. And the more we get this flywheel growing and think about consumption, it's view as a leading indicator and how it's going to change relative to our revenue is something that's developing over time. So I think we...
It just comes shorter sales cycles. And by the way, the last huge, and you put it like -- and there is one more thing to come. There is one more thing to come, which is the Headless 360. We're going to bring our Agentic -- #1 Agentic CRM to every surface, meeting customers where they are. And we're going to work together with our customers and with our partners to find the right ways to fairly -- in a fair way to monetize those new interactions and those new users that are accessing our platform.
So you've heard it straight from our CRO. We're very confident, right, relative to reacceleration of our bookings as well as our revenue for the second half of FY '27.
Thank you, Keith. Gabriel, welcome. We'll take your question now.
Miguel, you teed me up perfectly on Headless here. Marc and team, I would love to spend a little bit of time on your headless strategy and more specifically, how it intersects with the build versus buy debate. On the one hand, Robin was talking about how it expands the opportunity in the surface area for Salesforce. On the other hand, talk to us about how you protect your downside from potentially enabling value abstraction out of Salesforce, perhaps customers want to build things more in-house or perhaps it enables competitors or value abstraction. So talk to us a little bit about your monetization strategy and how do you protect yourself to the downside?
So you're right. Headless is probably the most exciting announcement of the quarter. And I'd love for Patrick to come in, and Patrick is our Chief Marketing Officer. Patrick Stokes is here. And Patrick, do you want to give us a little bit of an insight into our headless strategy?
Yes, I'd love to. We were just backstage prepping for this, and we said, what did we say about Headless at the last earnings call? And I realized we didn't. We were still getting ready to launch it at TDX, right? Yes. I mean we haven't even used the word yet, and now it's become such a key part of our strategy and our customer strategy and how we're going to grow. It was just at TDX in March when we launched this. And I think what's so exciting about Headless is 2 things. One, it's having a real impact on making it easier to implement with Salesforce. So building out with Salesforce has now become easier than ever because we've seen these coding agents, Claude and Codex from OpenAI. As you use these things, what you realize is you need to be able to connect the underlying APIs, which you do through this layer that's called MCP. And if you can connect those into the coding agents, it makes it faster than ever to implement and deploy Salesforce.
And I think we're seeing that show up in the numbers. Just this quarter alone, Agentforce customers in production grew by 50%. So I think we're starting to see a little bit of that impact as not just our customers, but also our global SIs across the entire platform, absolutely implementing Data 360, implementing Agentforce, implementing a service. All of this, Life sciences, all of this now becomes really just a conversation. So that's one end. But the other end is really what we heard from Miguel, which is this is really changing how people get value and consume Salesforce.
In my experience, we're not seeing people take this capability and the coding agents, for example, and try to build all of this stuff themselves. What they want to do is they want to take this capability and they want to use Salesforce in different ways and get more value out of it. So rather than logging into this discrete application and this application and this application to get an answer to one question that might span multiple applications or multiple kind of sources of information, you can now just take these MCP servers and plug them into any tool that you want. They are inside our application, of course, with Agentforce coworker, as Marc described, right up at that search bar. If you're a Slack customer, you can get to it right with Slackbot. That's really a Headless experience as well. But if you want to plug these into ChatGPT and Claude, you can do that as well. And all of this just results in more and more value being pulled -- being delivered to our customers from the Salesforce platform.
I would just add to that. I think even though we just announced, it's been less than a month, correct? I think Salesforce historically has been very open, and we got more than 1 trillion API calls on our core platform just in this quarter. What we have seen is on Headless MCP tool calls have been more than 1.5 million. So what people are using is they're using it not only in Salesforce, where they do with coworker and our regular sites. They're also able to use it in their flow of work. Similarly, on -- we announced the Headless MCP server for Slack and Slack has done 30 million -- 50 million tool calls. So what we are finding is there is a latent demand where people want to use Salesforce in their flow of work, but they need a trusted infrastructure. They need an operational infrastructure to run it at scale with all the compliance, with all the sharing and security models, with all the permissioning, with all the compliance, so they will use -- continue to use that while getting value.
And like as Miguel said, what we want to do is it's a new way. We want to capture value wherever the work is happening. And that's the conversation we are having with our customers. And as we talk to our customers, ISV partners and all, we'll figure out the right value. So I think it's a new monetization area for us.
All right. Well, let's get down to one more level of detail. This was the quarter where as we used the word Headless for the first time, we used it in -- we talked about it at TrailheaDX. I used it in the tweet. The tweet went really viral. It was a surprise to me, I'll be honest, because, of course, we had always been first on APIs and XML, in SOAP, in REST and now in CLI and MCP, but the system was always built to be API first. It has always done massive amounts of transactions and complex transactions. We've always reported those API figures. And now we even have a new API, which is our whole user interface basically spinning out of the platform as an API with -- so we have that incredible capability. So in all cases, the platform has always been API first. All the applications have been API first.
But when we announced Headless, everybody is like, oh, they've lobbed the top off of it or they've cut the applications off. They kind of got confused in my opinion. They don't understand that all of our apps are rendered dynamically with metadata that they're driven -- it's a metadata-driven platform. So Patrick, you're the marketing officer. Why -- where did that confusion come from for people? Why do they think Headless means that there's no more application or Salesforce app?
Well, probably from the name Headless, which does seem to imply that I can understand. But that term, obviously, if you're in the technology world, that comes from -- it's been a term that's been used in technology for quite some time to imply that the UI is not directly linked to the underlying capabilities or services that are underneath it in this case, APIs. And yes, Salesforce has always been open. I think what people got so excited about here is this idea that Salesforce was endorsing this way of working. We were basically saying, "Hey, we want you to take the value of Salesforce and the value that you get from our apps, from sales, from service, from commerce and marketing, and we want you to be able to work however you want to work, whether that's in Slack or whether that's in Claude or whether that's directly in the app." That's what this capability really enables.
And I think people were really excited about that. And maybe a little inappropriately skeptical that we would have just locked it all down and said, no, it has to be in our app, and that's never been the case for Salesforce. We've always been, I think, year after year, Postman says that Salesforce is the most used set of APIs on the planet. And if you're building today...
People don't know what that means on this call. So will you just explain it, you got it down to the inside baseball.
Sure, sure. So what that means is when you're a builder, when you're out there building something, and this is especially true today because there's now an ocean of builders that have been created as a result of this coding agent boom. When you go to build something for your business, you, at some point, are likely going to want to connect to Salesforce that is what we see. And it doesn't matter what platform you're doing it on. You can be building something on a competitive platform to Salesforce or on Google or AWS or one of our partners.
But at some point, you're going to want to connect into Salesforce. And that's why those APIs have always been hugely, hugely used. But when you are building with an agent, you need a slightly different type of API. That's what we call MCP. And so by really putting those MCP servers out and saying, yes, this is how we want people to build. I think it was a big surprise and a big move in the right direction. And it also creates, I think, a real monetizable opportunity for us.
If I could add one thing because the fact that we announced Headless at TDX it made people think that this was just for builders and that now they can take our CRM apart and which they can now also, by the way. But I think the big breakthrough was not with the builder workers, but with the knowledge workers.
It's more about how you work.
Let me give you 2 concrete examples. I met 100 customers basically face-to-face, one-on-one since the beginning of the year. And let me -- 2 examples, Adecco, great customer across the board. They use pretty much every cloud. They went into Data Cloud and Agentforce last year. They did a big commitment in Q1, at the beginning of Q1. They are basically design and AELA, wall-to-wall. They have amazing recruiter agents going there, millions of transactions. They're moving into voice. When we announced Headless, they called us and they are like, "Wait a minute, this is -- let me try to understand what you're doing." So now because they are also using other platforms to develop other agents. So they have agents with some of the AI labs that they're also trying to access our data. Are you saying that now these agents that we are building outside Agentforce can also leverage Salesforce? And we said, exactly, we did it for that.
So now there's going to be a lot of new agents that are going to be accessing our platform. That's example number one. Example number two is Anthropic. Anthropic is one of our biggest users of CRM of Sales Cloud. And obviously, Slack, their usage through Q1 has exploded fivefold because now they are using Sales Cloud from a Headless perspective, and they are approaching it from Coworker from other applications from Slack, they're hitting Sales Cloud. So Sales Cloud has become more prominent and more strategic for them than ever because of Headless. These are 2 examples, extreme examples, but this is every single conversation that I have with the customer, their smiles are big because of Headless.
Thank you, Gabriela. I hope you felt the energy on that question.
Your next question will come from Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
Marc, the AWU and token consumption metrics are some of the biggest and fastest growing in software and seems to validate that customers are using and deriving value from the product. Can you help us translate the usage metrics to revenue? Like the Agentforce ARR is impressive, but the usage suggests much faster adoption. And just as a related follow-up, the gross margins show no degradation despite surging token demand. So can you just help us understand how you're able to do that?
Yes. Well, there's a lot of different points there. I'm not sure exactly where I want to go. But I mean our -- talking about the financials of the company, when we talk about the Agentic enterprise, first and foremost, obviously, Salesforce is a large scaled company in software, at the moment, largest, 83,000 employees. For the last couple of years, we have not been loading up a lot more engineers with Srini. So Srini is here at the table. He's got what about 15,000 engineers, and you've had the 15,000 engineers for about 2 years, it's been mostly flat, right? And I would say that the reason it's been mostly flat is because we have been using AI to create more efficiency for our engineers. And especially this year, now with these new coding agents, we're seeing even more dramatic capability.
So that's a key part of our margin story is that we're not hiring more engineers. We're not hiring more GA. We're mostly expanding only in one area. You can see headcount has grown, but it's mostly growing in Miguel's area in sales because I think we all realize the one thing that we're doing here with you selling and communicating that agents are not exactly doing that. They can qualify, okay? They can provide service. But in sales, we still scale because there are so many different parts of the market that we have to get to. So that will be a critical part of expanding our company, but at the same time, expanding our margins.
I think on the other part of that, that's really key is you're right, we're trying to really communicate that level of token usage. Maybe we're one of the first to really get out and talk about, "Hey, not only do we have agents, but we've delivered 28.6 trillion tokens." I listened to some of the other earnings calls, and I don't think that they're at that level of detail. We've even gone down into this 3.8 billion Agentic Work Units where Patrick has really pioneered this idea of how to be able to communicate more effectively the level of depth that's really going on with our customers actually implementing this technology. And that, I think, is also a critical thing that we're only a couple of years into this Agentic revolution, but we see all this adoption and usage.
In every other product that we've rolled out, you've never seen the level of scale and growth of a new product like what we've seen with Agentforce. And you're going to see that, in my opinion, I don't know, but I'm going to give you a vision. I think as we get Agentforce Coworker live for all of our customers, and it's just the ability for the administrator to say now that it's available to these users like that experience that we had with Andrew Russo, this idea that all of a sudden, we're about to add a massive amount of new functionality and capability into all of our apps overnight, you're going to see these token numbers continue to expand and grow.
Are we using more tokens internally? We are for our own operations like in engineering. Are we using them for our customers? We are. And then we're absorbing that into our margin structure. It's not that we're not spending a lot with OpenAI. We are. We're using their platform. We're using Codex, their coding tool. We're using Anthropic. We're using their platform and their coding tool Cowork. We're using both of these platforms. Both of these companies are our customers. We're very excited about how they're using it. We use their products as well. They use our products very aggressively, both of them in Slack and Sales Cloud and Service Cloud across the board. So that is really what's happening. Which part did I not directly address?
I think you have it all. Brad, maybe to add to your monetization point, you're right, AWU is something that we use to measure how work gets done with our customers and also internally as customer zero. But our top 10 AWU customers have spent more than 1.5x over this past year with us. So it is being monetized over time via consumption and just basically getting more value from our core platform.
And I think we should probably just directly address this head on. And look, we're not going to give guidance on attrition and all these things. We never have. But Miguel, you're talking about how attrition is falling in the second quarter. And what's your vision around attrition and heads in accounts and agents and what's happening in these customers?
I mean our focus has been net new AOV. We did a lot of work, to be honest with you, to focus align everyone in the organization from product to back office to front office, to professional services. Everybody is aligned on one metric, which is net new AOV, which is the difference between the new bookings and then the leakage, the attrition. And we managed to redirect and we show at the Investor Day how the curve was negative. At some point, the negative growth.
So Q1 was a very strong net new AOV quarter for you as well, right? So -- what is that -- tell us why is that transformation happening?
The important thing is we are focusing on customer success, which has been always a focus, but our -- some of the incentives were not aligned internally. They've been aligned now pretty much from the second half of the year. We saw net new AOV outpacing AOV growth. We are very confident that in H1, we're going to see continued net new AOV growth outpacing AOV growth. Obviously, that's both levers. We are obviously increasing the new bookings, and we are minimizing the pain of attrition. In some cases, account executives, they swap products to make sure that customers are happy using the product. So we are very confident on the net AOV in H1 also being growing more than AOV and the reacceleration that we committed.
And listen, when you commit something 12 to 18 months in advance, I mean, we're good professional, but we're not magicians. And we don't -- I mean, there was a probability that it could not have happened, but we were very firm, and it's -- I mean, I'm very happy that we're executing as per plan. In fact, a little bit better than planned because you raised the guidance. So thank you so much.
The only other thing I'd bring up to your point, Brad, on margins, again, going back to our FY...
It's such a good question, right? Because it's really getting down into the depth of it, right?
Is that as we marched FY '30 in that Rule of 50, right, our ability to leverage these tools to improve our productivity is a critical component of how we're going to get to Rule of 50, as Miguel said, grow the top line, $63 billion plus with Informatica, but also improve margins and operating profitability. So as I said earlier, customer zero is #1 for us, and it's going to help us reach our framework as a lean Agentic enterprise.
Excellent. Okay. Great. Let's move on to the next question.
Okay. With that, operator, we'll take our last question now, please.
Your last question will come from Kirk Materne with Evercore Partners.
I wanted to follow up on, Miguel, you had made a comment on one of your customers using Sales Cloud through Slack. And I want to dive in on Slack a little bit just as part of the broader Headless strategy. Can you talk about Slack being potentially sort of a gateway for broader Agentic adoption in your customer base, what you're seeing now, how that's sort of stacking up in your pipeline opportunities? It just seems like it's an unbelievable network effect product. And I was curious how that's having an impact, if at all, right now or if you expect it to, on sort of broader Agentic bookings as we go into the back half of the year?
That's such a good question. I think each of these folks should address it. But Miguel, why don't you start?
So first of all, from a top line perspective, and we'll talk about how strategic Slack has become. Slack has become one of the favorite platforms and surfaces for, in this case, very, very specific, both the builders and the knowledge workers found in Slack the way to -- it's a multiplayer collaborative platform to access your applications to is your work operating system. It's incredible what has happened on Slack, how we are leveraging, by the way, a great partnership with one of the labs with Anthropic to launch Slackbot. Slackbot is our personal assistant. It has increased the productivity of the whole company around 3% more or less. So now I do everything. I ask everything to an agent. That agent has access to all my applications, all my approvals, all my sharing models, all my conversations and the business is booming. By the way, the bookings are booming, but also the net new AOV of that business is very impressive.
And the key characteristic is when we talk about the MCP server tools calls on Slack, most of them were done by the builders building applications that needed that rich context that Slack provides. So huge growth, AUV top line growth, bookings growth, net new AOV, very little attrition. So...
Also on Slack, I think, is the best -- when we say agents and humans work together, you experience it in Slack. When you're in a channel and suddenly in a lot of these -- especially I see it now in my engineering channels, like half the time, somebody puts a question or a request on a Slack channel and the agent is listening and answering it, developers do a PR request in Slack. And then suddenly, the agent is picking up and trying to do it. They want status reports. So I think Slack is where people can really understand the manifestation and they're all asking questions as a human and Slackbot is even a better way of articulating that in a packaged way.
So that's like why -- what is driving and the advanced use cases because the developer community tends to try these tools. It's very embedded. They see this manifestation a lot more and which is also the reason why some of our most advanced customers and labs and engineering organizations are using Slack MCP even more than we thought. And I think that's a key interest. And I feel as it goes to the general population in the knowledge worker, Slack will become even more prominent because people will say, this is the way to work. And we always said Slack is the operating system of work. And I think now people can really see it. And once they start using it once, it looks like magic, and that's why they say, "Oh, this is how it all is meant to be."
Patrick, we're going to give you the last word here.
Great. Yes. I mean I think it's all about the experience that Slack delivers. I mean when you get in and you use a product and it just works, that is a moment for you, and you're going to go back to that product. And I think that's exactly what Slack is. And it's more sophisticated really than it's ever been. We started as this collaboration tool, but it's become so much more than that. It's not just a place where all of your institutional knowledge is it now can make calls out to other tools. You can have agents working right in there side-by-side with humans. You look at these coding projects and the incredible coding agents that have surfaced in the last 2 years. But the thing about coding is like that's not a single player job, right? When you code, you're working with a team and Slack is the only place where you can have that coding agent and the full team of all of your engineers and your developers all working...
And even the deals of support channels, it's there and with Slack CRM, this is all we brought back. So I think it's a natural place to work. So I really see that's what is driving...
I think number one is this, which is that when we bought this company, it was doing less than $1 billion in revenue. And it was struggling. It was having problems. The management team was really not clear how they were competing against Microsoft. But I think coupling with our distribution capability, now adding the value of our core applications, and I think this key point that it drove nearly half of our million-dollar wins this quarter, up 80% year-over-year. That means that Slack is really having its absolute moment. And I think the second thing that's really important is here's the Slack AWUs that have grown 350% quarter-over-quarter. That is amazing, 350% quarter-over-quarter AWUs. In 2 years, there's going to be more agents using Slack than people. I mean, this is an incredible example of the future and also how this product is more valuable, being used more, has more data, more capability.
And therefore, it's going to have more intelligence and more value back to all of these customers as well. Plus all of these companies can create Slack communication between each other as well. If you're a Slack customer, you can easily have a secure communication with another customer as well. Miguel, do you want to add?
Because that work graph that will become one of the richest work context in the enterprise is getting richer and richer. So we build -- I mean, the community built 3 million custom apps on Slack in Q1. That's 8x quarter-on-quarter. I mean there is a huge boom. Out of those custom apps, there were 250,000 that were AI agents that were built, third-party AI agents, and that grew more than doubled in quarter-on-quarter, grew eightfold year-on-year. So everybody is working on Slack.
Well, I think that it's safe to say, and I'm not giving guidance by what I'm saying, but sales is a $10 billion cloud already. Service is a $10 billion cloud already. Data is already a $10 billion cloud. I think when we see the growth rate that's happening inside Slack, you saw the ACV was incredible in the first quarter. This is going to be fast track from something we bought with less than $1 billion that I'm sure we'll be talking in short order about Slack being a $10 billion cloud as well. All right. With that, I'm going to turn it back over to you, Michael.
Yes. Thank you, and thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call. Just a quick reminder, we have our quarterly webinar on Friday. And very timely, given the questions today, we're going to talk about Slackbot and our Headless strategy in a deeper way with our product leadership. So please join us for that on Friday. You can find the information on our website. And with that, we'd like to thank everyone for joining us, and we'll be seeing everyone in the coming weeks.
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Salesforce — Q1 2027 Earnings Call
Salesforce — Q1 2027 Earnings Call
Salesforce lieferte ein starkes Q1 (FY27): Rekordumsatz, hohe Margen, schnelle Agentic-AI-Adoption und erhöhte Jahresguidance bei aktivem Kapitalrückkauf.
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $11,13 Mrd. (+13% YoY; +12% in konstanten Währungen)
- CRPO: $33,6 Mrd. (+~14% YoY; ~13% CC)
- Operativer Cashflow: $6,7 Mrd.
- Margen: Non‑GAAP Betriebsmarge 34,8% (+250 Basispunkte), GAAP Betriebsmarge 21,1% (+130 bp)
- Agentic‑Metriken: Agentforce ARR > $1 Mrd.; 28,6 Bio. Tokens verarbeitet (+152% QoQ); 3,8 Mrd. Agentic Work Units (+111% QoQ); 98 Deals > $1M ACV
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Agentforce‑Integration: Agentic‑Funktionen sind in alle Kern‑Apps (Sales, Service, Marketing, Slack) eingebettet; Fokus auf kundenseitige Automatisierung und Seat‑Upgrades.
- Data‑Strategie: Informatica + Data 360 treiben Daten‑Monetarisierung und schnellere Move‑to‑production bei Kunden.
- Headless 360 & Slack: Headless/API‑Layer (MCP) soll Salesforce in beliebige Oberflächen bringen; Slack als „Operating System“ und Gateway für Agentic‑Adoption.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑27: Midpoint der Revenue‑Guidance erhöht auf $45,9–46,2 Mrd.; Subscription & Support Wachstum ~11% YoY (CC).
- Margen & Cash: Non‑GAAP Betriebsmarge bekräftigt bei 34,3%; GAAP Marge angepasst auf 20,6%; Free Cash Flow und operativer Cashflow nun erwartet +4–5% YoY (ASR Belastung ~5 Punkte).
- Q2: Umsatzguidance $11,27–11,35 Mrd. (~+10% CC); CRPO‑Wachstum ~13% CC.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Monetarisierung von Usage: Analysten wollten wissen, wie Tokens/AWU in Umsatz übersetzt werden; Management nennt A1E/A4X‑SKU‑Upgrades, Flex‑Credits, AELAs und Seat‑Upsell als Hebel.
- Timing der Re‑Beschleunigung: Zweifler fragten nach Belegen für H2‑Reaccelerate trotz Tableau/Commerce‑Schwäche; Management verweist auf starkes CRPO, Top‑Deals (98 >$1M) und Net‑new‑AOV‑Momentum.
- Headless‑Risiken: Nachfrage, ob Headless Wert abstrahieren kann; Management betont MCP/Compliance‑Layer, Partner‑Ökosystem und neue Monetarisierungswege statt Kannibalisierung.
⚡ Bottom Line
Guter Quarter: Umsatz, Margen und AI‑Nutzungsmetriken zeigen starke operative Dynamik; Headless und Agentforce sind zentrale Wachstumspfade. Die erhöhte Guidance und das $25 Mrd. ASR stärken EPS, belasten kurzfristig Cashflow. Wichtige Risiken bleiben On‑prem‑Renewal‑Volatilität, Tableau/Commerce‑Nachfrage und die H2‑Execution bei der Monetarisierung hoher Token‑Nutzung.
Salesforce — Morgan Stanley Technology
1. Question Answer
Excellent. Thank you, everyone, for joining us this afternoon. My name is Keith Weiss, I run the U.S. equity software equity research franchise here at Morgan Stanley. Taking my software promotion become the overall but -- very pleased to have with us this afternoon from Salesforce, both Robin Washington, Chief Operating and Financial Officer; and Joe Inzerillo President of Enterprise and AI technology. So Joe and Robin, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you so much for being -- and Keith, we had to be sure that we gave you one of our latest we hear there's a big announcement forthcoming, but also just for or right. You have to be sure to show it.
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You guys recently closed your FY '26 and a transformational year for Salesforce. When it comes to sort of product strategy, which Joe is going to talk to us a lot about, but also the sort of operating model within -- in Salesforce and pricing models. So maybe just start out, Rob, you could tell us a little bit about some of the key accomplishments from a financial perspective. And how this has set you up for FY '27 in terms of what's been going on with Salesforce in the past year?
Yes. Well, thanks for that start. Yes, we had, as you said, a terrific year from an innovation as well as a financial standpoint. We announced our results last Wednesday as you had in like record revenues, record quarter, record cash flows. -- pretty much taking you back to Investor Day, Keith, I think what's important to note, we laid out a framework over the next several years.
We talked about that continued elevation of net new ALD being greater than AOV over time. And we saw those inflection points play out in Q3, in Q4. So it gave us even further conviction to what I said back then of the 12- to 18-month trajectory to return to organic double-digit growth. If you add on to that Informatica you're talking about '27, but we're even thinking broader, amazing integration already, great return. We were able to make that accretive fairly quickly here within 1 year and feel really good about how it's fitting in with our core data component of our platform and really helping our customers, particularly our customers.
So very excited about that. In terms of other things that we've done, we're seeing our investments start to pay off. We invested a lot in AE capacity last year, and it's something we want to continue to do -- we've also invested in FTEs, very focused on deployment of agent force. And as Joe talked about, a way for us to continue to fine-tune our agents to make them easier to install, et cetera. and infrastructure. So all things that really set us up well and on the continuum to meet our objectives over time. There's also just our growth playbook that we've had in place.
In Q4, if you think about our premium SKUs, 300% quarter-on-quarter adoption of those premium SKUs, which really for us shows the value of our stack in general. So that's really important to us. We've also kind of invested in industry playbooks and processes even with some of our new products like Grollo that are really helping customers kind of figure out where do I start? How do I take and become an identic enterprise? And what are some real focused use cases that I can accelerate.
So we feel really good about '27, particularly that second half acceleration that I mentioned and continuing to grow profitably. We have doubled down on investments in FY '27 to meet that FY '30 framework. Ended the year at rule of 44, feeling very good about that trajectory of Rule of 50. So prioritization on growth in revenue and a Gentex as well as as profitable growth that I think you'll get to the capital question at some point.
Hit on that. I want to bring Joe into the conversation. And you mentioned the stack. And I think that's important when we're talking about Salesforce because there's a lot of asset at play here that you guys have built out a very robust sort of underlying data platform. There's a lot of application capabilities on top of that.
Now there's an Agentic layer on top of that slack as part of the equation. And Joe, you've had a really remarkable career in 3 decades. You've had leadership roles at Disney streaming, BAMTech, Chief Technology Officer at SiriusXM. And when I think about your career, it's building big system. And this is a big system that you need to build out here at Salesforce. So can you talk to us about sort of your vision when you come in and you take this role, what's the vision of what sales force could bring to the market in terms of enterprise AI and what that's going to mean for your customers?
Yes. I mean thanks for the question. I think you're right. On one hand, you can look at my career and say, like, I built things of big scale, enormous. -- the other stuff they've done has been pretty big as well. But the other way to look at it is I really spend most of my time in the direct-to-consumer market, and not like a traditional enterprise technologies.
But I think at Gentex is one of those things where it feels much more like direct-to-consumer. And it feels it on a technical basis, like these continuous improvement loops, how do you constantly refine things, how do you get them better? How do they learn? How do you learn -- that's one aspect of it. But I also think it comes down to just the way we interact technology. And so in an enterprise setting, you say, "Oh, okay, well, here's a screen, and I'm going to try to optimize it.
Now every salesperson needs to conform to that screen. But if you go to sales and agent force or in Slack, now all of a sudden, you're having a conversation and knows who you are and knows the questions that you've asked. It's a very personal relationship, not unlike the customization that might be in a Disney Plaza SiriusX upstreaming or Pandora, where it gets to know you. That's now going to become in the forefront, and we're seeing it now becoming in the forefront of how these technologies mesh together to drive better outcomes for our customers.
Got it. So the past 2 like investor debates behind you. And investors obviously have a lot of uncertainty about sort of what the future holds, particularly for the SaaS application layer. But you -- I mean you came to Salesforce, you came into this big system is a big incumbent vendor with full knowledge of what was going on, right? Like the models were already in play. And you saw opportunity here at Salesforce.
So how do you get comfortable with some of the like the investor concerns? Like number 1 is the DIY concern, right? Now with cogeneration tools, it's so much easier to develop software. Why does that not present a more of a threat to Salesforce and what you guys have built and erode some of the moats that people have traditionally thought about within software business.
Yes, look, it's a great question. And I can see how people would think about it that way because they'd say, "Oh, well, look, you have these amazing tools. But I think about it more like a master carpenter right? Like back in the day when you had to cut with a hand off, like you really had a big good carpenter in all parts of it. Now you can cut on a table saw. It's probably going to be a pretty good cut. So the tools are raising the boats for everybody.
So yes, the DIY market is getting more sophisticated but so are we. And we have a backlog of data and features and things we've always wanted to deliver to our customers, but it sort of sits in the queue based upon what capacity you could afford for meaningful and disciplined growth. Now all of a sudden, we're seeing the good engineers and our teams are going 20x, and they can really sprint ahead of this. And so I think it's really, in my career, I've done a lot of DIY. We built a lot of systems from mostly whole clock.
But even I had the like, why would I want to waste time trying to build something that I could buy that's fit for purpose. I'd rather spend my development money to use those tools to do the thing I'm trying to do, whether that's DisneyPlus or another direct-to-consumer product, that's where my value is. And so I just think that like the combination of us continuing to accelerate the rate at which we're delivering meaningful outcomes to our customers as well as them being able to then use those outcomes to really specific on what their core business is, I just can't imagine there's a lot of people that are going to want to go backwards and say like, well, let me build a better Salesforce. Like I don't understand where the ROI is in that.
And there would also be a defense against another investor concern of start-ups, right? -- of AI-native startups being able to kind of move faster. But we think about startups, there's a dynamic between best-of-breed and suites. And if you guys can innovate faster you could close that feature functionality gap between sort of what a start up and focused on the single technology versus what you could bring into a broader suite, it seems to tilt the balance in your favor of like let's put all this solution let garner these new capabilities from our incumbent vendor who's already automating a lot of our business process totally. I mean, everything that you just said -- and then I'll add another one, which is if you think about social media.
So if you set sort of tick tock aside, that's really a state-sponsored company. It's tough to argue that they competed on the even field. But look at the social media companies. they're all the same ones that were social media companies that were at the birth of it years ago. And the reason is it's not just everything that you just said, it's also the data. It's that deep semantic understanding of what your customers are doing and what the processes look like. In case of social media, that sort of identity graph, the social graph that ties all these people together allows them the fuel to continue to innovate on the interfaces and things like that.
And yes, start-ups come, some of them get acquired, some of them are inspiration but they haven't really mounted a real threat against them. And I'm not saying that we think we're in vulnerable. But at the same time, we have all of these assets, and we have 26 years of real data that tells us where people are having problems where they want to go forward. How can we help automate those things with that tool set.
So the data is just as important because it provides continuous inspiration for how we're going to try to solve problems and move the bar up for what our customers are able to achieve.
And I think that's the key differentiation. Like they're not customers just desire to see if I don't just want technology. I want things that ultimately improve my interaction with my customers, my bottom line, my productivity. You can't do that without the data, right? So they're looking for solutions, and we built 26 years of being the trusted number 1 AI CRM vendor as well as being very innovative.
And I think you combine all that together, we have the solutions, we have the technology, but we have the trust and the data.
Right. And it's not just data like we're thinking about data, like the data sitting in the database is also the understanding of your customers, understanding their business problems, that's ultimately where the value is on the business problems. All right.
The second sort of investor concern that I wanted to pass by Jo was the idea of an AI user interface, right? And I think Claude with cowork really and how well that did tool use really spark this fear of that perhaps going forward, we're not going to go into Salesforce to understand what's going on in our customers and then go into maybe work day to understand what's going on with HR, we're going to have this one universal AI user interface that is going to handle all of our quest understand all of our systems understand all of our data and abstracts sort of the user from the end systems and maybe sales force a little bit more of a back-end transactional system.
So one, how do you respond to that concern and two, can Slack play a bit of that role for -- at least for a Salesforce customer, again, sales force type systems.
Yes. No, I think it's a great question. I'll take the second part first. I mean Slack,it's not an if, it is. if you look at the major AI companies out there, they're using Slack. Like it is the way that they get work done internally. So I think that Slack is a natural place for it because it's where people who use Slack get things done.
So why would they not also be getting them done with agents, especially because those interfaces and those interactions tend to be fairly textural. It's like a collaboration tool that she could say like what we found when Slack was founded before we acquired it, that they thought about Agentix, but they thought about people, but it turns out that the agents that people want to work in a very similar way.
But to your other point about the disruption side of it, I think the way I think about it is old enough that I've lived through these technological revolutions. And back in the '90s when you wanted to run a computer program, you went to a very specific computer and clicked a very specific binary and did a very specific thing. And then really, Mark, and Salesforce were the ones who invented "Oh, no, no, you could just do that SaaS, it could be in the cloud. And there was a whole bunch of like, oh, the people who had these binaries were going to be disintermediated. And yes, while Salesforce grew out of that with a new company, Oracle and a lot of these other companies are still around. They adapted to it. Same thing with mobile. Mobile, very similar things like, well, you need a map, and then all of these companies have apps.
AI is going to fundamentally change the way we interact with the computer. And that's cool. But it doesn't just change it in a super narrow way. It changes it in a general case way and slack back to the first answer, Slack is that organic way that people are de facto actually going to Slack because it's really well suited to do that. So yes, I mean, look, if we were a different company, and we didn't have Slack. Maybe I would be worried about it, but I actually think we're leading this transformation with Slack. And people are coming to us, the AI folks, they're building things into it.
And so there won't be a menogamy of interface there's going to be a plurality of interface. So where is the gravity? And I think Slack is a great example of the human collaboration with agents is the gravity and that's where we're pulling people towards.
Got it. Got it. Robin, I want to ask you about a different investor today, but another investor concern, and that's the risk of seat-based models. The idea that we are automating and doing a digital labor replacement of the very units that you price on. So how do you think about that potential disruption risk? Is there risk in terms of not being able to sort of make up for seats with added value that you're bringing with the more consumed developments of what we're doing with agents.
Right. It's a fair question that we get asked a lot. And I will say when we look at the core data, we're not seeing that. We're seeing the great adoption the momentum metrics around our Gentek products, but we haven't seen seats year-over-year on quarter-on-quarter decline.
And I think it goes back to the earlier conversation is as long as we're showing value of our platform and in our way, Gentex make our core apps even more valuable, I think that's what's really critical. Now to sit and say that over time, are you not going to have some type of attrition of seeds that could very well happen. But we really see a hybrid model of seats as well as adoption of our genetic products driving consumption. And I can't tell you exactly how those curves are going to grow.
But overall, we see overall continued value of our core apps and the system, the integration of them and the context is being really critical. It's like you can't have one without the other. -- our overall conversation here.
I totally agree with what Robin's saying. But I'll -- Robin and I are sort of here talking about the company, but we also have a relationship because in addition to overseeing Slack and agent force, I also essentially oversee our office of the CIO and all the things that we're using it. And so Yes. When she and I have questions like about, okay, should we invest in this. We're putting our business ads on as 2 executives that run the 75,000-person plus company, right? And we're looking for value. It's 1 of the reasons that we introduced this like agenetic work unit as a measure because it really matters what the outcome is.
Like you could spend 1 million tokens and that could be good or bad depending on what you're doing with it. As or what you're doing with it. And so when we try to think about investments, we're thinking about it in the same way our customers are -- and we're saying, okay, what is it doing? Like is it delivering the value? How do we get there? How do we measure that impact. And I think the whole industry is evolving, it's super fernetic right now. Nobody has a playbook of exactly how this is going to work.
But in a simplistic sense, if we deliver real value, like we're going to get compensated for that real value. And the higher value we can deliver because of the complexity of the task that the agents can sort of orchestrate across our stack and other stacks, that's going to bode well for what we can do from a pricing standpoint, regardless of the vehicle.
And I think just to take an example like that, and Mark, our CEO uses it a lot, is our helpdesk.com. We have been able to save on reactive call volume. Now we've been able to reallocate those resources to other areas of the business. it's adding incremental value. We're able to measure that and reinvest it or readopt it. And in some ways, it allows our customer service reps to interact more with the technology, the whole idea of humans and agents working together, so they can be more focused on proactive value-add co.
Our call volume is still going up because we're growing, but our ability to reallocate those resources and leverage agents really helps our productivity and allows us to rebalance. And so when I think about it as a user, the value of my users hasn't gone down. It's just allowed them to be more value-additive, more focused on ensuring that they're meeting the needs of my customers, and it gives my customers 24/7 support for things that don't meet human engagement.
Okay. So maybe to kind of sum up this, like investor concern and competitive dynamic and maybe shift the conversation more to constructive of what Salesforce is going to bring to the marketplace or Salesforce's positioning. It's unlikely that your customers are going to try to DIY their own solutions, right? That's what they look to us for. They're looking for solutions. You have strong competitive conditioning against startups. But there is this new white space. This is added capability that large language models and generative bring into the overall system. And there's going to be a competition for who gets at that white space, who is able to create this further automation, further productivity for the end customer.
So Joe, maybe you could talk to us about what sets up sales force well to win in that competition. What gives you guys the right to win in building out that additional capability, those additional workflows against the front office and even broader into going into stuff like ITSM.
Yes. I mean I think when you think about it, the whole paradigm is sort of like upside down from where it was before. So you think about like the way in which you build code was like very like, okay, let's take this thing we want to do, break it down into steps, do all these steps very iteratively figure out how we get there and all sorts of stuff like that. We're now starting to go the other way.
We're now the imagination is sort of starting at like the user level where you can put tools in the hands of users and then observe how you can continue to make them faster and faster and faster. And for us, I can't understate how important it is. It's not just the models. The models themselves are incredible, miraculous frustrating creatures that exist now, and they've completely shifted the paradigm and they keep making improvements, but they're not delivering like a results-based system that you can depend on for a business. you need that data. And it's not just the data like you were saying in a database that sort of sits there at rest. That data is now kinematic because of these models. It's always sort of being introspected and moved and things like that.
So when you look at us, we start with sort of this data layer where we have all of this amalgamated knowledge but we can represent it to the upper layers of the stack. And so you start working your way into the activation layer, the apps themselves, the facilities that the apps provide and then you have the genic sort of orchestrating the whole thing and then back to Slack.
You have this interface layer that then participates in the entire thing. And so does that necessarily assure that we're going to be successful? Of course, not. -- does it sort of show that we have this incredible advantage in vertical integration where we have like a really strong foundation of how these components that need to all exist, need to all interoperate, need to all be observable can work together.
And then because we've worked so much on the finish of how they fit together, you also get into the situation where I can't emphasize enough of these continuous improvement -- so it's not just does it work today. It's like how does it get better tomorrow? How does it react to the change in human behavior. How does it react to more data becoming available. And that's how these things are just going to go. Like there is not going to be steady state done, ship the software we're done. It's always going to be at this frenetic user level as opposed to the sort of architectural level.
And I think we're really well positioned because both through organic build and kind of the DNA of who we are and acquisition, we filled out that layer in vertical integration, and we've seen with hyperscalers and things like that, how much that vertical integration is a huge asset in delivering solutions that actually work and drive value.
Got it. So like we were talking about before, so Joe is bringing solutions to real customer problems. If you guys are bringing a solution to your customer, they're going to pay for it. They're going to value it in some way. And you guys have developed a whole menu of options for agent force pricing. We have Agentic enterprise license agreements. We have consumption-based pricing via per call. We have Flex credits. We have seat-based SKUs like agent force 1 edition. Why is this so important to that so many pricing options? Like why it creates a lot of confusion for us like infusion. Why is this so important to get adoption in the marketplace to have this menu of options.
Yes. It's confusion, but it's also agility. I think what we're finding to Joe's point, this is not a static market. We're competing. Our customers are looking at options. They're trying to scale. And our job is to be sure that we've got solutions that meet customers where they are. Some want to pay per user, particularly if they're looking at other options. Others want certainty. They want to understand what this means. They like the user model.
And so the different menu of options that we have allows us to meet a customer wherever they are on that journey, keep -- and over time, the ELAs are great. If you want to go all in on us, you don't need to worry about whether this agent is going to hit up against the cell too much or that's going to be term. You can really decide what are the right use cases -- do you want customer patients? Do you want employee?So we believe that agility that we have, sorry for the confusion, really helps take off the table for the customer any concerns they might have around cost. -- and it allows us to kind of just double down with them relative to being their platform of choice.
Yes. I mean, to Robin's point, I'd also just add living through the hyperscaler revolution. Was an example of like, it was a very different model. People were used to this CapEx model and I do this, I get a data center and all that kind of stuff. And by the way, like I used to be really good at building data centers. I thought that was an awesome skill set. I have built a data center in 12 years.
And so like that all of a sudden became less interesting to me. But I think when you think about that transition. We think about it as if it was like this square wave transition that just happened. And everybody was like, yes, well, of course, this is how you pay for a cloud. But really, is it took a long time in retrospect, it seemed short, but it took a pretty long time, took a decade really to get that into the full mainstream.
The same thing is happening as far as the pricing models go with the Gentex right now. The only difference is because gentex are moving so quickly from a disruption standpoint, that entire time line is compacted. And so like, to your point of us changing models, we're trying to be reactive to the market, trying to be reactive to our customers, meet them where they are. if that -- if you actually slowed down time and kind of expanded that to a decade thing, it wouldn't seem as frenetic, it's just because there's so much opportunity and so much disruption right now that it feels like they're stacking and it is, and it does confuse customers, but we think the inaction is much worse than that.
So we really want to try to get some stability, really trying to mature it and get to a point where we're meeting everybody where they're at. But I think the time scale is what people don't really appreciate is the fact that this is all just happening really fast for the whole industry.
And I think the receptivity that we've had gives us the ability to monetize in any framework that the customer wants. Over time, it's more predictable for us. It's, again, back to that hybrid model. But our goal is to ensure that our overall platform is sticky, it's retained. And we think this all-in model really helps us with that in our regard.
And to Joe's point, we're iterating with the customer -- it's a very different selling model. It's not users and we go away. We're out there are forward deployed engineers working with them and fine-tuning. And these pricing options, including credits, give them a lot of different options and ways to absorb that based on the success that they see in the iterations that they go through to be successful.
Right. So I mean, what I hear from a lot of investors and what they're looking to me for and want they're looking to view and the IR team probably even more so is clarity. They want absolute certainty of that $1 a seat revenue is going to turn into X amount of agent plus seat revenues. But listening to Joe about the -- how quickly this is evolving, how quickly the capabilities are evolving. -- listening to you about how customers are still trying to figure out how they want to pay for it.
It seems like maybe we're looking for something that would be too limited, right? If you guys narrowed it down to one set of functionality in 1 pricing model, you're going to limit your opportunity -- so with that being said, it's near term maybe maximizing from the stock price long term, limiting -- what should we be looking to? Like what -- is it? Is it the genetic work units we be looking to? And what gives you guys confidence because you call for acceleration into the back half of FY '27, you looking to, to get that certainty to give that forecast? Because I know you you're conservative. Like you're not going to tell us about acceleration until you feel really comfortable with that accelerate.
usually hazard of the job -- but no, I mean, at the end of the day, it really comes down to customer success. And it's really about that partnership. We've used -- we've thrown out the AW -- I should say, to run it out. It's a really good metric for AWs. -- but we're looking at net new A -- so we have a set of metrics that helps us really understand the direction of that customer journey. I think the other thing that is important, keep to your point, what's happening with the customer -- and we also talk about the multiplier effect of being on multiple clouds, leveraging our Agentics, et cetera, we're seeing real acceleration of ARR per customer as both customers go on this journey towards the Agentic enterprise.
So that's another comforting point to us. But you're right, we're definitely in a shift I think trust and customer success is absolutely the most important thing. And as long as we do those things, we're going to be okay and show that value and work to our customers. We see it in the numbers. We see it in our pipeline. We're seeing it with our SDR agents, which are generating more leads. And to your point, I think customers are coming back saying, "I don't want technology. I want solutions. And that's what we've been doing for 26 years.
Now with the Agentics, I think that's the value that we see and that's the direction of growth that we see our customers really leaning into.
Totally. And Robin sort of talks about the growth in ARR and like how we think about it. But I also sort of break it down into customers that I personally interacted with. And so like I was in APAC in November, and I was talking to 1 of our customers that was just sort of starting the Agentic journey in Japan. And that same customer about 2 weeks ago was in New York, and I got to see them again. And it's sort of it's like your friend's kids, right? You see a picture and say, "Oh, wow, they're big.
Now I had that same sort of impact with their Agentics where they had sort of started and then you look at it like, wow, and now they were coming in to talk to us again about what are the next 5 use cases we're going to do. And when you see that kind of like we did something we work together, we partnered, they got results. And now they want to expand that program, it's hard to like summarize those in a number on a spreadsheet, but you feel it when you see it happening. And I think that this particular customer was a great example of I got two snapshot of pictures several months apart, and I could feel the acceleration.
Yes. We see it internally. We call ourselves customer 0, and we started with everybody experimenting, hundred-plus agents -- we've kind of got it down to 4 key categories: employee, customer sales, back-office procurement, what we call them hero agent, and we're starting to see the acceleration. We were just -- they are talking to employees, it's about it's getting us permission to go faster because they now see the value add, and we now know where to invest and where to decelerate, and we see that same journey as Joe said, with our customer.
And I think this is also the part that sometimes I see undervalued in the industry or underestimated in the industry is the fact that like these tools are due to everybody sort of almost instantaneously. And so when they come out, obviously, we have relationships with model folks. We get a little bit of a head start. But people are now starting to really know how to use them to deliver real results. And so when I talk to other CIOs, their second agent is a whole lot easier than the first.
And the third is easier than the second. And that's both because the products are maturing, but it's also because they know what life cycle, a genetic life cycle works for them. They have the data. They know what they need to look at. They know how to make these things better. it's not like there's no appetite to take these things on. So really, what we're now into is the building of the confidence curve about the practitioners understanding that like, yes, I can sign up for a number that I'm trying to either grow or save I know I can do that now because I've got this precedent of these last 3 things that I've done.
And now I really feel like I have mastery of the technology despite the speed that it's going on. And that learning curve of the practitioners really starting to understand how to actually use these things that are advantaged for a business, we see every day with ourselves and also when we talk to customers. And like I said, sometimes it's hard to see that read through into a spreadsheet in a very, very specific precise way, like you all want to see, but you feel it when it's happening, and we definitely feel it.
Right. So you guys take these innovations, you create solutions for your customers. You're starting to get real traction with these solutions. You're feeling it from the marketplace and you come out with Agenetic work units to try to pay to us sort of that inflection that you're seeing in the business and the traction that you're seeing with these agents, why Agenetic work units we come up with a new KPI. Why not tokens? -- like everybody else in the industry is talking about coking -- why do we have to come up with a new KPI for Salesforce in particular?
I'll give you a really perfect example of it is 1 of the things that we've done with agent force in the last -- we announced sort of a Dreamforce last year, tail end of last year was agent script. And this notion of like the real challenge that a lot of people have when they go down the agentic path is, you want a rich understanding of what the human is trying to do -- but often, you want very prescriptive outcomes.
So if you're filling somebody's prescription, you don't want the engine to guess, right? The models themselves are stochastic, right? They're probably ballistic. So like you want that to be very precise. And it's really tough to do that within an LM by itself. So part of Agent script is this deterministic side a bit that we have with our new planning agent, agenticaptive reasoning, we call it, and when you look at it, you start to say, well, if somebody goes to do something and the token use goes down, that would be bad except if they start to use things that actually use this a genic reasoning engine as opposed to the LOM itself, the token count goes down, but the actual efficacy goes way up.
And so we really felt like tokens are a story, like you do need to look at tokens. But at the same time, you really need to figure out like how do you get worked on. And the work unit felt like a very parcelable thing where you can say like we actually did something that helped further the cause of whatever this customer was trying to do. And so that's why we thought that like it never fall in love with these things. They come and go. -- but we felt like we needed something that wasn't just tokens because it wasn't really describing the phenomena.
And ultimately, you want that mix of like efficiency, efficacy and cost to all be concatenated into 1 statistic. And right now, I just think the market is so immature that we don't have the ability to quite do that yet, but AW use we think, is a big step in that direction.
And the benefits to that, to us, it helps our customers better understand the ROI. It also helps us better manage 1 of your other question is what's going to happen with gross margins, right? So the efficiencies of that, that engineering feed internally for us helps our gross margins as well. And again, I can measure Joe's success, our success in customer by looking at our work units. What are we actually getting done. So it's a great metric for a number of different reasons.
Salesforce isn't just a wrapper around tokens. You guys are adding a lot of value back is you get levered exactly again...
And that value is not only with the agents, it's also with the core. that, again, it's this hybrid model of users and agents working together with context of data that's the value proposition that we want.
And back to the absolutely. And you just touched on this. I think it's worth like just really trying to put a fine point on. Again, when we talk about like context and things like that, we're sort of talking about it in a past tense. -- in the sense of like this is the thing that the agent needs to make its decision. That's true. But when it makes its decision. The thing that happened becomes context as well for the next call the agent makes either to that same person, very personal context or sort of thematically across the organization or when we look at it from building the technology stack itself, it winds up being the more that you can do these, the more you get acceleration in people using it, the more exhaust you have from these transactions, which then make the transactions better, which makes people want to use it more, et cetera, et cetera. And that flywheel effect starting in a lot of things.
We saw it internally, we see it with a lot of our customers at this point in time. But that's where it's really going to start to accelerate because each 1 of these things just reinforces the previous action and then predicts the future action better.
Got it. So I want to wrap this all up with the capital allocation question. You guys have talked about the Trinity of capital allocation. You started paying a dividend. You raised at 6% this year. you're going to have strategic focused M&A that is more shareholder-friendly as well as share repurchases. And you guys returned more than $14 billion to shareholders in FY '26.
90% of our free cash flow last year. Yes.
You guys put out a very big number in terms of share authorization. $50 billion at the time it was 27% of market cap. Does that signal a little bit more of a weighting on the share repurchases given where the share faces, given your excitement in the business, versus maybe the other 2 parts of the Trinity.
Yes. I would say the way we -- I mean, look, I said it on the call, if you look at what we see as the value of our products, our innovation in our company, there's a big dislocation -- and so we see no better investment right now than Salesforce. That being said, we're going to do it in a balanced, disciplined fashion that doesn't preclude us from thinking about smart M&A.
Last year, we acquired 10 companies, including Informatica. To your point, we're doing in a disciplined fashion. You should consider dividends or floor -- and we're generating a ton of free cash flow and expect to continue to do. So yes, they're all important. -- we see dislocation with us. We're going to double down and be a little bit more aggressive than we have in the past. But all, to your point, in a Trinity fashion that makes the most sense that drives long-term shareholder value. And at the end of the day, its growth in that top line, the reacceleration of double-digit growth.
We know that's how we're valued. We're not going to do anything around share repurchases that preclude us from doing that. but we see a really opportunistic opportunity to take out a portion of our market cap, and that's what we're going to focus on.
Amazing. Super setting time at Salesforce. Joe, Robin, thank you so much for joining here with us.
Thank you.
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Salesforce — Morgan Stanley Technology
📣 Kernaussage
- Kernaussage: Salesforce positioniert sich als führender Anbieter der „Agentic Enterprise“: vertikal integrierte Datenplattform plus Slack‑Interface und Agentic‑Layer sollen Kundenautomation liefern. Management sieht Rückkehr zu organischem zweistelligen Wachstum (12–18 Monate Ziel) und beschleunigte zweite Hälfte FY‑27.
🎯 Strategie
- Strategie: Fokus auf vertikale Integration (Daten, Apps, Agentik, Slack) als Wettbewerbsvorteil; Agentic Work Units (AWU) als neues KPI zur Messung wirklicher Business‑Arbeit statt reiner Token‑Zählung; flexibles Preismodell (ELAs, Consumption, Seats) zur Marktdurchdringung.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Neu: Management nennt konkrete Signals: Abschluss FY‑26 mit Rekordumsätzen, Rule of 44 Ende Jahr (Ziel: Rule of 50), 300% q/q Adoption bestimmter Premium‑SKUs, schnelle Einbindung von Informatica; $50 Mrd. Rückkaufautorisierung sowie Dividendenerhöhung (~6%) und >$14 Mrd. Rückfluss in FY‑26.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Wettbewerb: DIY‑/Start‑up‑Risiken wurden adressiert – Management betont Daten‑Moat und Integrationsvorteil, lieferte aber keine harte Quantifizierung des Marktverlust‑Risikos.
- Interface: Gefahr einer universellen AI‑UI diskutiert; Slack wird als „Gravity“ für Kollaboration/Agenten positioniert, konkrete Marktanteilsprojektionen fehlten.
- Pricing & Seats: Sorge um Seat‑Kannibalisierung bleibt; Antwort: hybride Nachfrage (Seats + Consumption) und Fokus auf Messung von Kunden‑ROI statt pauschaler Antworten.
⚡ Fazit
- Fazit: Positiver strategischer Pitch: Salesforce hat Daten, Produkte und Slack‑Interface kombiniert und zeigt frühe kommerzielle Traktion. Sichtbarkeit bleibt begrenzt wegen heterogener Preisoptionen und schnell wechselnder AI‑Metriken. Investoren sollten AWU‑Adoption, ARR‑per‑Customer und die operative Reaktion im zweiten Halbjahr FY‑27 verfolgen.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, and thank you all for joining us. I'm Dame Decide. This session marks the fourth in our series of quarterly post-earnings webinars aimed at providing you all with a deep dive on our latest product innovations and strategy. Today, we will deep dive on our Agentic enterprise architecture evolution and innovation. As you heard earlier this week on our earnings call, our force system architecture of engagement, agency work and context it's foundational to how we are helping customers become Agentic enterprises.
Starting with some housekeeping. Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements.
Today, I'm really excited to host Muralidhar Krishnaprasad or may, our President and Chief CTO of Product Engineering and Madhav Thattai, our Executive Vice President and GM of Agent Force; we're going to start with a brief presentation and a demo, and then we're going to jump straight into your questions. And I know this is not a shy group, but please do submit your questions in the chat. With that, I'll hand it over to you, MK.
All right. Thank you, Ami. As you all know, first of all, good morning, and thank you for joining us. As you know, all know, every company wants to become an Agent tech enterprise. And for us, the definition of an agent enterprise is where humans and agents drive customer success together so that you can get better productivity, higher revenue and, of course, more efficiency in our operations. Next slide. But I think the biggest mistake people do is that they just think simply, all it is, is you just need an LLM to do the work. Because raw intelligence is not enterprise work.
On the left side, you see the frontier models all ready to go tackle the complex intelligent task. On the right side, you have the enterprise outcomes. Unfortunately, 95% of all these enterprise Air pilots fail because they're not crossing the case. Because these LLM can't act their own. They are not deterministic. They don't -- like you can't rely on their outcomes all the time, and they lack business context.
And so next slide, this is really why the agent enterprise needs more than models. And this is not just us just pontificating but really through our experience over the last several years making so many of our customers successful bringing in agent enterprise. And the 4 things that we really need, starting from the bottom is a system of context, which can tell you exactly what your data is, what your customers are, what are they doing, so that you have the business context around the operations you want to do. The next is the system of work where the work actually gets done, whether you're servicing a customer, you're selling to a customer, you're marketing and so on. And then you have a system of agency, which is actually doing that, taking that raw intelligence and being able to orchestrate across the system of work using the context appropriately.
And finally, the system of engagement where you're actually talking to that customer on the right channel, whether it's for employees or for customers. And we believe these 4 is really what takes that crosses the chasm from intelligence to business outcomes through an AI-driven model.
Next slide. Here, in Salesforce, our 4 layers of context work, agency and engagement, we believe we have the industry's only unified stack that can make this possible. Starting from the bottom, of course, we can run on any models, whether it's open in tropic, Gemini, et cetera. Starting from the bottom, our Data 360 provides the foundational system of context. You can bring all your structured data, unstructured data, in many cases, just 0 copy, you can leave the data in their warehouses, but pull them together. And really create that singular customer profile, product profile and others, which can help you give that context of what the users or accounts is doing across your business.
And then we have above that is a system of work. We have the most industry's comprehensive thing related everywhere from marketing, sales, service, operations, analytics and so on. And this is where work gets done. This is where all your business workflows are created as well. And as you know, we recently launched our CCaaS and IDS product line as well to join this. And then you have the system of agency. This is where the agent force customer and employee agents are built. This is the 1 that is taking the context and then bringing all of the business workflows that are there in Customer 360 together using the power of the LLM models.
Finally, the system of engagement is where we have both our channels with all the channels that we support from WhatsApp, SMS, text, e-mail and others, but more premium channel is with slack for our employee experiences particularly with Slack pot and our ability to do enterprise search and really bringing in all of the power of the visualizations also into the system of engagement. So this is how comprehensive our stack is, and they all work together in unison.
Next slide. Now I'll just briefly deep dive with 2 slides on the context itself and hand over to Madhav. So to do that context, you really need data -- and this is really where Data 360 comes into play. You can connect to hundreds and hundreds of different sources that's a new enterprise very easily. You can turn any unstructured data, your call transcripts, your nodes, your design documents, whatever they may be into both structured data as well as vectorize them so that agents can actually understand and reason over them. And you also get memory, all these agents get both short-term and long-term memory so that when you come back after 3 months to talk to your business, it can actually quickly pull back what you have done. And you also want to bring that quality and clarity because data quality becomes important. You're putting the reputation of your business on the line by putting the agents in the front, and this is where the data quality and cleansing comes into play.
Next slide. And so putting this together, the way context works as you see on the left side, you have all of this data and all of these applications sitting there with the power of the Data 360, the MuleSoft, Informatica and Tableau, you can actually create those MDM records, the unified profiles, create the context engineering around it where you tie all of this data with the raw data, with the context about what they're doing with the agents and be able to go analyze it and then link it back into the system of work. So this is how the context layer at the bottom ties in with all your data stores in the enterprise with the system of work that we have across and then feed it to the agent layer. Madhav, over to you.
Thank you so much, I'm glad to be with all of you today. So MK talked about the system of context. I want to now touch on the system of agency and what we built with agent force. I think you all saw Otis in our earnings, we talked about the performance of agent force in the last 15 months, we're now at an $800 million run rate up pretty significantly year-over-year. And we went from about 3,000 customers to now over 23,000 customers across those 29,000 deals that you see. It's been incredibly encouraging to see customers from all over the world. in different industries, using agent force for many different use cases, some of which we're going to talk to you about today.
But a couple of the things that are really, really important as we think about this. First of all, we see agent force uplifting our license products where customers are now using them for premium experiences for employees with our agent force for sales, agent force for service, agent force 1 edition products the customer is getting a lot of value on those employee use cases. And then, of course, there's the consumption business where these are fully autonomous agents that are facing customers. You've obviously seen the great examples with Williams Sonoma and others, where we have these agents that are doing kind of end-to-end life cycle work for our customers. And then also really encouraging to see that some of those customers now are really at a deep stage of maturity. And so they are coming back for more credits and more expansive use cases as they start to drive this across their life cycle. So incredibly exciting performance for the product, and we're really just getting started.
Let's go to the next slide. Now I want to spend a minute on this. We introduced this new metric this week, and I know I've talked to some of you already about what it means. But MK made what I think is the most profound and important statement, which is it is not sufficient to just measure intelligence. And we've been talking about intelligence as measured by tokens for a couple of years now ever since this capability launched. And it's really important to understand what's happening at the infrastructure layer, just like when we talk about the cloud, we want to understand what's happening at the compute layer, at the storage layer, at the networking layer, and we really see tokens as a part of that infrastructure layer. But what we care about and what our customers care about is turning that intelligence into work. So we introduced this new metric a genic work unit, which is really comprising all of the work that is being done on our platform with these agentic systems.
Now that could be a decision made by an agent to respond or make a decision and reason through a particular task. It could be the task of actually performing a record update or triggering a workflow or maybe an API and a third-party system, maybe running a piece of code and so we now systematically measure everything that's happening in agent force, in Slack, in MuleSoft and we say, okay, let's really understand how are customers getting real work done because that real work is what really tells us that the utility of the product is valuable to the customer. The more they use the product, the more we know it's having an impact on their business. And so it's early. We're trying to understand a lot about this metric. We can now look at this metric by product line. We can look at it by customer. We can understand which use case they're using it for.
So really, really exciting. And we think that the moment has come to move from a simple measure of intelligence, which is an input into what is the output and the actual work getting done.
So if you go to the next slide, and here are some examples. These are some of our incredible customers. We talked about some of these at earnings as well that are really doing a lot of work at scale. And you can see the variety of different use cases, and that's really what jumps out on this slide. We have customers like Adiba recently went recently went public in Latin America. They are using this agent externally facing their customers. So every time a customer comes back to ask about loan status to understand what their next steps are, they are directly interacting with this agent. A great customer like Bouygues in Europe, they have their agent that they call Iris, which is helping their employees. And it's helping their employees with fairly complex tasks across all of the things that their employees need to do to really drive that internal productivity.
ADP is a great customer. They're actually using an agent internal to their company that's helping them with HR workflows. So this isn't even in just sales and marketing and so on. This is actually expanding what they think agent force can be used for. And then, of course, General Motors is using task-based agentic automation. So this is -- I have very specific tasks that I need to go accomplish. These tasks are in the flow of work. They are where my employees are working in Salesforce and Slack and that automation is driving a lot of productivity. So that's really been encouraging because we see customers that are experimenting with a variety of use cases, pure employee productivity. Employee assistance with more complex agents. And then, of course, really the important use cases, which is we now feel confident enough in this agentic technology that we're going to have our customers interact with this agent. So that's been really, really encouraging to see and a lot more to come with all of these customers that are really starting to add more use cases.
Let's go to the next slide. But this is really the bottom line here. There has been a tremendous amount of energy around building. We can wipe code, we can accelerate the deployment of software, and we are significant users on MK's team and across all of our engineering teams, where we believe that this technology is accelerating our ability to build, and that is remarkable. However, there isn't an enterprise in the world that wants to vibe operate. The build is the first part of this journey, and we have really worked over the last couple of decades with our customers to help them run their business. Now to run your business, after you build, you need to understand how do you want to test the capability? Is it working? How do you evaluate it? How do you observe it? Is it driving your KPIs? Is it driving your outcomes? How do we continuously optimize.
And that is where the fact that we are so deeply embedded with our customers, the fact that their most valuable work, which is how they interact with their own customers, happens on Salesforce really gives us a deep understanding of how we take the best of this intelligence technology turn it into remarkable experiences but then importantly, help businesses operate and manage that capability. But I'm going to stop there.
Let's go to the next slide because rather than just talk theory, we actually want to just take a few minutes and just show you how the product works end-to-end. And for that, we're going to bring in the incredible game Sumner to walk us through a quick demo of what this experience actually looks like.
Yes. Thank you so much, Madhav. So what are we looking at here? What we're looking at is the type of agent that we are helping our customers create, which is essentially an agent that represents the brand. But as Madhav and MK just talked about, for it to do that reliably, it's got to be grounded in those 4 systems: engagement, agency work and context.
And let's just start with context. So if I just give this agent and instruction, I need to reschedule my flight. We know -- we know that to do this job reliably to answer that question, the agent has got to be grounded in that enterprise context that might have just -- or that MK talked about. -- got to know who the customer is. It's got to know what their flight was. It has to know what an appropriate replacement flight might be. But customers also want to take these agents a step further. We want the agents to take action on the brand's behalf. And that means you need to give the agent some level of agency to respond flexibly across a whole spectrum of requests that the agent might get while, while always adhering to your business rules.
Now if we're going to transform all those customer experiences with agents, we need these agents to engage across all the different channels where customers are, which is going to include mobile but extends all the way out to voice and your 800 number with those CCaaS systems that MK talked about earlier. And if the agent needs to escalate to a human it means the agents have to work where your employees work, which means supporting seamless handoffs between the agent to employees inside the work systems where they are using to work and collaborate. And as MK and Madhav have just talked about, we are the only agent platform that brings together these 4 systems. And let's take a little bit of a deeper dive to explore exactly how that happens.
So this is agent force builder. This is where our customers define their agents and agents are defined with topics. You can think of these as essentially the jobs the agent is allowed to do. And behind each of these topics is essentially a little subagent that is comprised of both instructions and actions. And if we were to go into instructions, like these are the guardrails that you create that guide the agent's behavior. And because we've introduced this new scripting language, agent script, we are able to blend this kind of like deterministic logic, your business rules with natural language kind of instructions. And that is what gives agents for us this kind of the agency to adapt while always kind of adhering to your business rules.
Now there's also these agents are comprised of actions. And you can kind of think of these as the tools that we've equipped agent force with to actually do all of this work. And what would that work be? Well, it can be things like retrieving data from sales force or outside sales force with Data Cloud it can also be executing your business workflows. It could also be even using those MCP tools from kind of the open ecosystem that we participate -- and -- let's pause here for a second.
Yes, sure. This is really important. -- what Gabe is showing you is how the agent gets built. And when you think about how the agent gets built, he said some really, really critical things, and these are kind of the core and most important innovations that we brought in. Number one, tying in that context directly so that the agent is leveraging all of that enterprise data that is connected into Salesforce -- you don't have to build extra data connections. You don't have to move data around, it is seamlessly integrated into that data. So that was 1 point that he made, that is really, really critical. The second thing that's really important is One of our biggest learnings in the Agentic enterprise has been this need for determines to control.
These aren't just agents that are answering simple questions. These are agents that are executing on work -- and so how do you make sure you are tying that deterministic ability into the agent build is really, really critical. But really importantly, those business workflows sit in sales force today. And MK brought this up before when he called it the system of work. tying it back into the work and the process that is happening is what allows customers to not have to recreate process in order to roll out these agents. And that's a really important way in which these agentic deployments can go a lot faster and a lot easier. Go ahead, Dave.
Yes. Absolutely correct. And then as we move forward, we've talked about all the different engagement channels. So this would be where you extend agent force to all those channels where your employees and customers are -- and then if we go down to here to the very bottom, and I'm sorry, Zoom is in my way here. But you have data, which allows it to be grounded in that unstructured data like those knowledge articles. But honestly, the way to kind of like see all of this come together, I find it just like go test the agent and see how agent force actually goes and does a job. So this is the simulator inside of agent force builder that we can use to kind of see how the agents work or how agent force works. And I'm just going to ask you to find a flight from Seattle to -- and so like what is happening right now is agent force is kind of using that agency that we granted it to flexibly understand the intent to make a plan to ground itself and all that right enterprise context, to execute the actions and adherence with our business rules until finally, it surfaces the right answer.
And not just like surface is the right answer, but explains the reasoning that it used to produce that answer. And we've given our customers the tools to really dig deep into all of this and just really look at all the individual details that were used to create this reasoning. And Matt have talked a little bit about the Vive coding experience like we're trying to bring that vibe coding experience into the enterprise. So if you notice problems with any of this execution, you can just ask agent force to fix it. And instead of like it generating a bunch of ad hot coke that you have to then maintain yourself it's generating kind of metadata that sits on top of an enterprise-grade platform. And that's how we get -- help our customers get their agents ready for deployment.
But of course, 1 test, 1 test, never enough for these nondeterministic solutions, which is why we also have testing center, which uses AI to generate hundreds, if not thousands, of AI-generated test scenarios so that we can just test a whole spectrum of things that we different ways that customers might ask the agent to do different things to make sure that the agent is performing as you expect, across all of those different simulations.
And then long after deployment, we're giving our customers the tools to understand how their agents are doing against the backdrop of all their business KPIs. So they understand the value that agents are bringing to their business. And we're also not only helping them understand how agents are doing but also what the agents are doing. So you can drill down into this visibility across different topics and even highlight things that the agent could be doing better. And zoom all the way down into individual interactions to really see how an agent is doing an individual job, look at everything that's being done to do that job, interrogate it, troubleshoot it and that becomes that kind of flywheel that just makes the agent better and better and better. So this is how we're bringing together those 4 systems at MK and Madhav have just talked about, to convert that raw intelligence of these frontier models in the trusted enterprise work. I'll give it back to you.
Thank you so much, Gabe. Really appreciate it. So let's go back to the slides because we want to show you a little bit of how we think about the stock. But we know this question is going to come up. So we thought we would just address this head on. You've probably seen here in the last couple of weeks, a lot of announcements from the Frontier model companies about their enterprise agentic stack. So let me start with saying this -- these are companies that we deeply, deeply partner with, both OpenAI, anthoopic, the other model companies, the hyperscalers we are very close partners in really building this technology and bringing it to customers. And secondly, these companies are also customers of ours. And so we also work really, really closely together to make sure that they are being successful as they're building these remarkable companies with this remarkable technology that is genuinely changing the world and changing the enterprise.
But there's some important takeaways here when you think about what the frontier companies are saying about the Enterprise business. So if you go to the next slide, we kind of broke this down a little bit to map it to how we think about our stock. So let's just start with Frontier. We are in deep agreement with OpenAI that context really matters. As Gabe showed you, the workflows really matter, where your employees are working and how they are working is really, really critical. You need a system of agents across all of these important services in order to go deliver this capability out to the enterprise. And so that is really good validation of the things that we have said for a couple of years. The bottom line being the model layer alone, which, by the way, isn't really represented anywhere on the stack. But the model layer alone is insufficient to make sure that, that intelligence is being turned into work.
And in fact, we also were encouraged to see that OpenAI is partnering with many of the big system integrators that we work very closely with as well. Accenture, Deloitte and McKinsey and others because that implementation is really critical. Turning this into operation is really critical. And so this is a deep and important validation of our understanding of how these things actually get turned into real work. And then Anthropic, of course, has also been talking about their enterprise strategy. They had an event earlier this week where they talked about their strategy. And you kind of see how these experiences that Gabe talked about, the employee experience that we think of in Slack. These prompt and automation workflows that we've now been doing for a couple of years with our customers. And then, of course, these agents that are going to be building truly autonomous capabilities are really, really critical.
Now it's interesting in 1 of the main demonstrations that they showed, the experience began in Slack a group of people were talking about how do they improve the decision that they needed to make. But the immediate next step was someone needed to leave Slack and move to a different UX in order to go execute a task then they had to take that task, bring it back to slack in order for the decision to get made. Now we don't believe that's the right experience for users. We think all of those things have to happen in 1 place. And of course, we're deeply partnering with Anthropic to make sure that customers do not have to leave their flow of work in order to bring all of that intelligence and that capability. And so a deep validation of the things that I think we've been saying for a while as we have built this comprehensive stack that MK talked to you about before.
So let's go to the next slide. This is now a view of our system of agency. We touched on each of these things. So I'm not going to really get into repeat the detail that we just talked about but a lot of deep innovation at every layer. And this innovation is not limited to agent force. Gabe showed you the operating layer today, where we optimize, we analyze what that layer is built with Tableau. When we think about the orchestration layer and a genic system where agents are talking to each other, we are very closely tied with our MuleSoft technology to extend that across the enterprise. Of course, at the context layer, we're making sure that we're tying in with Data Cloud, with Informatica for all of the reasons that MK said to really surface up all of those capabilities.
And when you think about the experience layer, this is the work with our applications teams to really make sure this intelligence is surface for employees. It's working with Slack -- so you're in the system of engagement. It's working with all our channels like voice and chat and WhatsApp to make sure these agents are surfaced in those channels. And so it's a really critical strategy for us to bring these unified capabilities to our customers. But really importantly, we are unified but not locked in. We know we live in a heterogeneous environment that customers in the enterprise will want to connect a lot of technologies at every single layer. And so the open side of this equation really, really matters. -- openness at the data layer, the ability to orchestrate across all of these systems, the ability to share telemetry and data so that customers can do the analysis that they need and then the ability to really connect across all the interfaces.
It could be Microsoft, it could be Apple. It could be whatever interface a customer really wants to use and make sure that our agents are able to surface up in those interfaces. And so that's really the strategy and what we've done.
If you go to the next slide. But really importantly, strategy and a set of slides and a set of demos and blog posts are really not the business that we are in. The business that we are in is to be really, really deep in the trenches with our customers, really making sure this technology is making them successful. And it's been a real privilege to work with some of the biggest companies in the world. As I said, across industries and across use cases, so we can really, really understand how this technology can create value in a number of different scenarios. I won't drain the slide, I'm happy to talk about some customer examples and Q&A. But each of these customers has helped us drive a critical innovation in the product. Working with Williams-Sonoma really helped us understand how do we tie that context layer together to create an incredibly rich experience. And if you haven't played with it, you should go to Williams-Sonoma's website.
This is an agent that's helping you not just discover Williams Sonoma's products but really create experiences in your life -- and it starts from that in order to go in and then make product recommendations and actually think about what products customers want and then customer service, we're tying all that together requires a tremendous amount of context. -- deco is an incredible customer of ours. In fact, they just yesterday launched a brand-new voice experience for their candidates. And Adecco uses us to do what is their most important business process, which is qualifying candidates in order to match them to jobs. And that process is a perfect example of why LLM and determinism have to come together. You want to use LMs to create this rich experience with the candidates. It's flexible. It can ask them questions. It's empathetic to where these humans are.
But a qualification process has 30 steps. You want to make sure every single step is followed. If you just handed that off to an LM, it is not going to execute consistently and accurately across all of those things. Equinox. Equinox really helped push the boundary on how do you create rich experiences with this technology. This isn't just a bot that you put on a website. You want to have rich information. You want to have rich content. You want to have interactability, -- you want to have flexibility in how the agent actually plays out. And so it's really been incredible to partner with these customers as they're pushing the boundaries of how this agentic technology is going to be used. So what I want to do next is hand it back to MK. He's going to give us a little bit of view of where is this technology going? What does the future really look like.
Thanks, Madhav. I think what you saw in even gave stem was a hint of where agents are going to be called in other agents, the super agent, as we call it, right, because we want every customer of ours wants a single brand agent that coordinates work across everything else because when you go to sales for toccom, you're not going there intent of just asking a service question. You might want to go to sales. You might want to go to marketing and so on. The Williams-Sonoma is a good example, where you may asking about the Susha agent about some recipes and then want to go and purchasing things.
And so super agent becomes an important thing. We believe 2026 is the year that every company and the brand will choose a super agent and be ready for it. And so on the consumer side, with agent force. We have the super agents that can go talking to other agents or let other agents call into us next slide. But even more interesting on the employee side is where we believe Slack is going to play a huge role in the system of engagement and super agents for employees next slide. And that comes with Slack port. If you have not tried Slack pot, you must try today. And Slack part is a perfect example of how the context that's in Slack, where all our work gets done uses the power then of our AI tools to be able to go bring that right thing at your fingertips. And it's able to go orchestrate not just across all your data in your enterprise, but across all your agents as well to get your task done.
And as you can see here, we've already seen huge success with Slack part. In fact, we heard from many, many customers, where if the Slack bot was turned off, they literally said we can't work anymore. So it's become such an important ingredient just a few months since it's been released. So that is how we believe both at the consumer side with our agent for super regions, on the employee side, with our Slack pot and Slack super agents, we're going to really bring the power of agents talking to agents to your fingertips.
I think that's the end, correct? Yes. So with that, thank you all, and we're ready for your questions.
Awesome. Thank you so much, Mava and may -- we are going to jump into Q&A now. As a reminder, please do submit your questions via the Q&A feature in the Zoom channel. To start here, we have a question that we've been getting pretty regularly from investors this week. People are really excited to see the agent force momentum, the $800 million ARR, the strong growth -- but people really want to understand what the long-term ARR ceiling or long-term growth rate assumptions are when we think about our path to our fiscal year '30 revenue target. So maybe I could start and then pass it over to Madhav. I think first, just what we're really excited about with that $63 billion. We have incorporated Informatica, of course, but it also takes into account the net new AOV performance we've had over the last few quarters.
And when we gave you the update at Investor Day on how we see the slope of the curve into the back half of this coming fiscal year, that's what really gave us a lot of conviction is we're seeing this broader adoption motion that's agent force, but also let me go deeper on my core apps. Let me go deeper with my products with Salesforce and really driving a broader set of adoption than just agent force over here and the rest of the business over here. So maybe Madhav can help bring that to life in the conversation here.
Yes, I think it's important for us for everyone to get an understanding of how we go to market and what the monetization strategy looks like. So when you think about agent force, you can think of Three key ways in which we bring this capability to market. Number one, as Val mentioned, -- we sell products that create premium experiences for employees. So this is a license business. This is an upsell uplift business. And we have products that are add-ons to our cloud. So we call them agent force for sales first for service. We have all of these products for the industries as well.
And then we've got the most premium agent force 1 edition, and those are 50% to 70% uplift on a per seat basis. And these products are really ensuring that in employee scenarios were driving that productivity. We're driving the agency that customers really have for all of those kind of employee use cases. So that's a really significant part of the business. Half of the ARR really comes from that license uplift business. And we're continuing to see expansion and growth, a remarkable trajectory. We just launched that product in the middle of last year and remarkable momentum there. That's 1 type.
The second type that's really critical is the consumption business. And so what Gabe showed you is an example of an external-facing agent that is doing a lot of complex tasks. In many cases, those tasks cut across marketing and commerce and service and these are agents that are truly autonomous creating new types of experiences -- and so we sell that as a consumption business. And that business also has grown really signify a significant ARR on that business. And that gives customers the ability to really build these flexible multiuse case agents. There's also a lot of value. You imagine in an agent that is now acting as the front door, as MK said, as we build towards these super agents future. That is a remarkably valuable experience from a customer perspective and something that we expect we will also be able to generate a lot of value from.
So that's the second model. And then the third model for some of our customers that really go end-to-end with us is this new agent force enterprise-level agreement. And those agreements are really looking holistically across a customer. They're thinking about the licenses and the seats. They're thinking about what are the consumption agentic use cases. how is this customer going to use data cloud? How do we integrate across their enterprise with MuleSoft? How do we bring the power of our analytics with Tableau. And so a comprehensive really at the transformation level and that we introduced not that long ago, and we have a lot of customers and great momentum on that front as well. So that's really how you should think about the 3 monetization models. And as Val said, expect uplift in all of those things. So today, we report agent force is kind of a sum of those things, and we will continue to do that.
But we expect agent force to really penetrate and uplift all of those businesses. And so far, we're really seeing a lot of expansion in each of those buying models.
So the next question here is 1 that I think kind of ties very closely to this question. And when we think about the longer term, obviously, we had a record quarter with RPO, $72.4 billion in Q4 of FY '26. But how do we think about the trade-off, as you mentioned, between seat licenses, a generic enterprise license agreements and the flexible consumption credits, especially in the context of potentially reducing seats, right? I think everyone saw some of the news that came out yesterday. So how do you think about that? How do you think about the growth in agentic work units with that as a backdrop.
Yes. And maybe, Val, you could start with some of what we shared at Investor Day on how we think about the expansion on a per customer basis because I think that will be...
Yes. I think just to remind everyone, when we think about the overall wallet share expansion opportunity that we have with our customer base. If we are able to address the agenetic enterprise opportunity with these customers -- it's not just an incremental add-on type agreement, right? When we're going live with products like agent force Data 360, we're not only getting this motion of customers more willing to go deeper on their current applications whether it's in Service Cloud, they want to add on field service because they want to plug in to tie in the agentic experience to be able to plug in across that use case or they're willing to go from just a Sales Cloud service cloud experience to add on Tableau Slack because now they have confidence in the ability for these agent capabilities to lift all of those products and the underlying context to get a lot of value from all these different touch points, that for us, when we've seen customers who have gone live early, we've actually seen a significant uplift that goes beyond 20%, 30% growth.
it goes 2 to 3 to 4x of an overall spend expansion. So when we're trying to address this opportunity, we're really trying to address 3 things. First, of course, we want consumption. We want to ensure that we get high-value consumption. Agentic work units is a really good measure of that, and Madhav, you can touch on that. The second is we want to have a lot of value in the seats that they have today, we still see seats expanding right, across sales service slack, there's still growth that we're seeing today. Longer term, that might change. But I think a motion that's been really exciting for us is these bundled SKUs, agent force on edition, the more premium seats where they're actually increasing their ARPU and to translate that to customer terms, they're getting more value out of that existing seat and are willing to pay more for that seat base.
And then the third piece is really around that data in context, right? We just brought Informatica into the fold. It's been a great first quarter for us with that asset. But now with Informatica, MuleSoft, Data 360, Tableau, all these assets together really give us a broad scope to be able to address the context, data needs that our customers have. And that gives us a lot of confidence in that 3 to 4 kind of expansion opportunity that we shared at.
So let's build on what Val just said. I mean, 7 of our top 10 deals saw this kind of motion. This isn't the same as I have 1 more app I'm going to add, and that's going to give me 10%, 20% uplift. This is now -- I'm going to reimagine what my enterprise experience is going to be. And so that is a 2x and 3x and so on. And so when we really think about that, the right question that we've been really thinking about and that we talked about a little bit at earnings as well as every 1 of our customers is going to be on this journey of becoming an agentic enterprise. The really key question for us is -- how do we make sure that sales force is clearly and obviously the partner for our customers as they think about completely changing their customer experience.
Now we've had very encouraging growth on that front. We started with 3,000 agent force customers are now up to 23,000 agent force customers. And so the rate at which we are penetrating our customer base is really significant. We've added a lot of new customers along the way as well. And so that penetration of, let's go help our customers transform into these agetic enterprises is really the key -- that's on the employee side, that's on the data side, and that's on these very significant orchestrated super agents as well and those types of use cases that we're driving. To measure the work of those agents is really where we think about a tic work units, and MK, maybe this is something that you could help talk about a little bit as well. We really want to move from just measuring pure input consumption like tokens into output. So MK would love your thoughts on the Agentic work units and how you think about that for our customers.
Yes. Sounds good. First, let me add 1 more thing to what you guys said, and it kind of drives into the agent work unit. If you take that sales engagement STR agent, what it's able to do today is really go bring in more customers that we would probably never have even looked at before, leads and opportunities. Like, for example, even within Salesforce, like almost 90% of the folks who come to our website and others is too small for anyone to actually go have a meaningful conversation with them. Now with our sales agent it actually starts engaging with them, knows what they're doing and then it brings them up either to schedule a meeting with the salesperson or to actually close the deal.
Now that is an example where it's actually going to cost more seats to -- like more humans to be used to kind of create more sales, grow the top of the top line. Now coming back, 1 of the challenges we saw was just looking at a token usage, that doesn't give you the full picture because that's just -- okay, we are going have $1 billion, somebody else who's going to 1 billion and so on. With this new agent work unit, what we're able to say is it's not just about the tokens. It's also about the work that is happening within that business. So in the case of sales, it would include the workflow that's needed to go call and create the lead as an example. In the case of service, it's the work done to actually go understand that users intent and then go close the case or like create incidents and so on and so forth.
So each 1 of those, the agent work unit will capture that math of what is the actual work done in that system of context or in the system of work so that we can give a more comprehensive thing of how AI is actually helping your enterprise. And this is really important because we believe the Agentic business needs a canonical metric where we are showing that valuable work is getting done. When we measure -- as that is not internal use of agentic work units. That's not trial use of agent work units. That's not even the use of Agentic work units when customers are testing, which is super valuable, by the way.
But we want to hold ourselves -- and this industry is a standard of is real work happening in production. And I think having a canonical metric that can measure that is really, really important for us to understand how we're creating value with our customers.
To Madhav's point, we will welcome the rest of the industry to join us in this effort so that we can actually have some common metric across the industry to represent how work is actually getting down. Awesome. Our next question, I'm going to combine 2 questions into one. But Matt VanVliet from Cantor Fitzgerald is asking about super agents. Are they going to have different monetization elements to encourage uptake -- and then I'm also going to pull in a question that's tied to super agents and multi-agent orchestration. Specifically, if you're bringing in a third-party agent, how are you thinking about the data oncology? Do you have a layer that would help you understand and map the data across different systems. So maybe that second part can go to MK and the first part can go to Madhav.
Yes, absolutely. I mentioned the different monetization models that we had. I think another really important point here is, we have really learned over the last year just as we've innovated on the product, and you saw some of the incredible capabilities that we've built already and some of the things that are coming. We've also really innovated on the go-to-market and the pricing motion. And I think where we are is making sure that customers have flexibility and making sure that we're meeting customers where they are, where they are in the journey. If what they want is a model where they are still thinking about productivity in their employee use cases, great, let's make sure that we have offerings, and we have licenses that they can buy that they can leverage all this capability.
If they want to move to these more complex agents that they're building, including super agents in the future, let's move them to a more consumption model so they can really understand the real specific work that, that agent is accomplishing, and the monetization model is tied to that. that same argument is going to apply in the case of super agents. When you think about super agents, there are going to be actions that are executed across these agents, either within agent force or into external systems. We will absolutely think about how we monetize those actions as we do today. They're also going to be pulling in things at the data layer. And that data layer will all be monetized with the way we think about our credits and our data layer monetization. It's very likely in those super agent systems. They are going to be tying across the enterprise, so they have governance so they have observability.
So they have control, which means our MuleSoft capabilities will also be involved. And you've probably noticed over time, we're really moving towards a model where all of our consumptive products are on our single Flex credit system. -- it's fungible. It's movable across all these capabilities, and we make it as easy as possible customers to say, "I need the agent capability. I need the data capability, I need the analytics capability, I need the fabric and the governance across my enterprise. Can get all that with 1 mechanism at which I want to buy. And that's really what the Super agents are going to represent. They don't represent just agent force. They really represent that full unified stack that MK talked about to give customers the ability to take advantage of it. MK, do you want to talk about the data side?
I think you've sort of raised it very, very -- what are the things that I think you saw in 1 of the earlier mother slide is, for us, extensibility in working with your enterprise is a very, very critical part at every level of our stack. -- from the model layer to the data layer to the agency layer, work later and so on. And we are extending that same thing to multi agents as well. And the question specifically were all context. And this we all know, right, even humans, when we get transferred from 1 operator to the other, you got to go repeat all the context back again to saying what my problem is. And so we want to avoid that. And to that extent, the Data 360 layer that is creating the context with our agent force has open APIs through rest APIs, MCP, JDBC, et cetera, that all the other agents can also leverage. So when there is an agent to agent handout, there is no loss in context or translation. So that's one.
Second, to Madhav's point earlier, as these agents are learning, if you're using our agent Fabry, all the logs across those agents are also going to come back into data 360 and surface through our agent for studio. So that means you can actually understand how the lineage is working, how these agents are calling and actually start optimizing as well. And that helps into that circular loop that we can actually do to go optimize your agent in enterprise. So the short answer is -- our data layer can help you go across these agents and to also grab all the logs. Our mill soft layer can help you govern and monitor these agents and our agent for studio layer can actually help you go optimize them through our analytics.
Awesome. The next 1 here comes from an investor who is wondering about the maximum margin impact agent force can have on gross margins. Let me start and then Madhav can jump in on some of the things we're doing to optimize First, we, of course, have a product portfolio that's pretty broad and diverse. And as we launch new products, we always are looking to long term optimize what the gross margin structure looks like. Our expectations that we've been clear with investors about is we expect to maintain our gross margin structure -- we have some things working through this year as we invest in hyper force.
We invest more in third-party that longer term, we actually expect some efficiency on the gross margin side. But importantly, when we think about the construct from monetization through to optimization, the monetization side captures more than just sort of pass-through costs for LOM. As you've seen today, there's so much more in that overall agentic enterprise architecture that needs to be right that needs to be working in order for these to scale, to be reliable and to be really successful for our customers, and that includes much more than just kind of a pass-through cost. So I'd say when companies are out there saying, "Oh, we're worried about LLM pressure and that impact -- there's a lot more that we're doing than just sort of a pass-through.
The second side of how we're thinking about optimizing is we can view the kind of margin by customer view of when early adopters launch that scales and ramps through time, how we adopt things like hybrid reasoning, determinism. The testing center that you saw us show in demo, there are a lot of ways that we can optimize fine-tune. And then, of course, importantly, we're able to leverage a lot of different models in that architecture to be able to use the right model for the right task to be able to leverage some of that efficiency. So maybe you can touch on some of that.
Yes, absolutely. Look, efficiency at the infrastructure layer is something that we do every single day. And that applies to compute. It applies to storage. It certainly applies to the use of tokens in the model here. This is the newest kind of infrastructure and the newest kind of swappable infrastructure, especially as we have model choice with customers that we will continue to leverage how we are efficient at that infrastructure layer. But there's a really important point here that I think ties back to the Agentic work units. Now what the Agentic work units allow us to do now is they allow us to compare the work being done with the infrastructure supply. In this case, the inference capability and the intelligence capability measured by tokens that are going into those work units. So over time, we can understand which kinds of work are leveraging how many tokens over time. There are probably some kinds of work, whereas we build richer and more complex experiences the amount of tokens go up for a little while, and then we plateau as we start to think about it.
There's other kinds of work, and we talked about this earlier, as reasoning becomes more deterministic. As we're not relying on LLM for complex task execution, the number of times we have to use an LLM in that reasoning will drop. So we now have the ability to save for those kinds of work units are we driving efficiency from a system design perspective, from an agent construction perspective. And this really allows us to kind of dial in the amount of infrastructure costs we are spending for the work that's delivered. Now this is not different from what we used to do with regular compute technology and regular storage technology, but now we're going to be able to do the same thing with this new model technology.
We also fully expect just has happened on the infrastructure layer in the model layer as well, there's going to be continued improvements, efficiency, lowering of cost in these models as they continue to get more commoditized. We're already seeing some of that, and we expect that trend to continue in the future as well.
Great. Our next question is about MCP. And now that MCP allows external agents to interface directly with enterprise data how do you prevent other companies, foundational model companies from eventually bypassing agent force entirely and utilizing their own agent orchestration capabilities as those are getting better and are maturing, how do you prevent that from happening?
That I think even before agents were in place, we were an open company. We shared all our data. And yet people are still coming to us for doing all of the data processing and for all their work needs. And same thing here. We still had all our APIs open. Anybody could have built an agent outside us. And we told a lot of customers did try it 2, 3 years ago when LLM came out. They said, "Oh, all I need is just an LLM and I just give all the APIs and things will just work. And as we sort of -- and Gabe showed the demo and others and be showcased it, what we have is really an understanding of the business over the last 20, 30 years. What our customers have done is really build those business workflows, business data context and metadata and all of those.
So to really get your business successful, it's not just that data context or just raw data. It's really everything that goes on top of it, including your system of work, your agency all of the hybrid reasoning, everything that we talked about. And the context that gets print, it's not just raw data, it's really the context that you need to go build as well. So that's kind of why we are very, very confident that people need that stack that we talked about to get real business success. And we touched on this when we showed a little bit of what the model companies have talked about earlier as well. There is no question the context layer is incredibly critical. There is no question that the business process and the workflow layer is incredibly critical. There is no question that the interface where a customer engages with the company, where employees work is really critical.
And these experiences are not just unlocked by connecting up a bunch of MCPs together. It sounds easy in theory, but the experience really matters. The efficiency matters, the accuracy matters, the latency matters. These are implementation decisions that are really, really important that can we kind of talked about in a theoretical way of well, you can hook up any 2 things together and get them to work. But that's not actually how CIOs and companies implement things and how efficient and how well these systems work really does matter. By the way, our partners at the model companies really agree with us on this point. And so the question that you should be asking yourself is, are customers going to recreate all that from scratch. An entirely new stock to maintain an entirely new stock to observe. And entirely new track that, yes, you vibe-coded, but now you have to vibeoperate over the next several years. Are you going to recreate where your employees are working when they are actually getting incredibly productive work done today on surfaces like Slack?
Are you going to recreate every single business process that you have spent years and years really honing in sales and commerce and marketing and service. And that is where we believe the real work gets done. Capabilities like MCP are going to be incredibly impactful we're going to be tying those to agents outside of sale force, agents outside of sales force are going to be tying into us using all of that. And those are important building blocks, but a building block is not an architecture, and it's not an implementation, and that's really what we're focused on.
Great. Our next question is on Tableau. And specifically, is there any competitive threats or challenges with LMs and agentic analytics that you're seeing today. Obviously, Tableau had a weaker performance in Q4. So what is happening there, if that's not the case.
MK, do you want to start? Yes, I can start there. I think 1 of the big things, capital as well with , I think it's centrally different. The agent analytics is where sort of analytics itself is going. And you want to get the answers right this cannot be a allocated answer. Like if I -- if Mark wants to say, "Hey, what's going to be my quarter next year? And what's your thing? It can't just say it could be 80%, it would be 50%. It could be 30%, right?
You need precise answers. And that's really what Tableau always has strived for. making your data available to the -- to all of us that is guaranteed. Now 1 of the key things that we are working on very closely is to make sure those agent analytics can get to the right answers. So that starts with making sure you get the right what we call a semantic data model, right? And out of the box, we now ship for all the customer domains and also making sure that the conversion into Sequel and the semantic models is correct. And that is kind of -- we had a bunch of acquisitions we did as well to make that better. And this is what we believe is the future of analytics.
Like how do we make analytics really give you in a conversation of pattern and emitted in your line of work. And in fact, some of the demos that you might have seen already where we now have Tableau through Agent 4, stable through Slack part, all of those experiences we are trying to bring in Tableau relevant in your line of work. And all the applications that we now shipped, like marketing invent everything, you saw the agent force analytics and so on is also now all built on Tableau. So Tableau is much more deeply integrated into our stack. So we have expanded the TAM for Tableau into all of our existing sales force stack as well. Plus we are making sure Tableau will be the premier solution that you use when we have this agent analytics taking over. Madhav, do you want to add anything.
Yes. I think -- no, I think you answered the Tableau question, but I think this is kind of the broader point we made earlier, which is when you think about agent for us, it's not just the agent force part of the technology. It's the impact and the uplift that it has on every part of the portfolio. We're making our apps better with these agentic capabilities. As customers use the platform, they now will leverage Tableau to do the analytics that MK said. They're going to be leveraging data cloud and Informatica to really harden that context layer. They're going to be using MuleSoft to connect across. So we really think about the agent force momentum, you should really think of it in terms of all of these pieces coming together to create these experiences, leverage many, many parts of our stock to create that overall experience, and I completely agree with my the utility of a tool like Tableau in a world where the optimization and the management of agents is going to be a critical part of how every business works incredibly, incredibly valuable capability in that world.
Great. We're going to take our last question here, which is on data cloud or data 360. Clearly, Data Cloud is growing really well. It appears to be a prerequisite for preventing AI illucidations and agent force deployments so our customers who adopt both Data 360 and agent force together, showing materially better retention and expansion rates than those who are using agent force alone.
Yes. I'm happy to start and talk at MK. We see a huge overlap in the customers that are using data cloud to connect across their systems and the customers that are using agent for us. Data Cloud is also a key part of the agent force architecture. We use Data Cloud to make sure that we get all the analytics. We have Gabe showed you a slide that showed as you're testing the agent, every single moment that the agent is making a decision, executing something we call that a session trace. All of that session trace really sits in data cloud so that we can leverage the power of all of these analytics in this data.
So the 2 products are very closely tied together. And then, of course, customers also use data cloud to extend across the enterprise, bring in all of this context. So a huge overlap in that customer base -- and I do think that the products really are complementary and drive each other's momentum, and we expect that to continue. MK, anything you want to add on data cloud?
Yes. See, 1 of the things that we've also seen, in fact, even recently with a very big customer, is that as we lay the foundations of this, we can easily upsell so many different technologies because all our platform works together. And so that means somebody who is using agent force and Data Cloud, we can now upsell our Tableau stack on to them. If they're using service, now marketing works better because the same data and the magenta experience now can work with our marketing deeply. And so this thing costs us to be able to go upsell and cross-sell all our technologies together because foundationally, we have architected our stack so that the data and the agent stack underlies all our application experiences and all our systems of engagement.
So that is a huge boost to us. So it's not just about customers in retaining and growing our customers with data cloud and agent force, it's really growing and upselling all of these other clouds as well.
Awesome. Well, thank you all for joining. Thank you, Madhav, MK, Gabe for hosting today. We look forward to seeing you on the road over the next few weeks. And we have a bunch of questions here that we'll get back to you on, but we really appreciate the time. Have a good rest of your weekend.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzfassung: Salesforce stellte in einem Post‑Earnings‑Webinar die Agentic‑Enterprise‑Strategie vor: ein vierlagiger Stack (Data 360, System of Work, System of Agency/Agent Force, System of Engagement), Ziel ist, LLM‑Intelligenz deterministisch in produktive, messbare Business‑Workflows zu verwandeln und Kundenbindung sowie Upsell zu beschleunigen.
🧭 Strategische Highlights
- Agent Force: Run‑Rate von $800 Mio, Kundenanstieg von ~3.000 auf ~23.000 und ~29.000 Deals – starke Produkttraktion.
- Monetarisierung: Drei Modelle: Lizenz‑Upsell (inkl. Premium‑Seats mit ~50–70% Aufschlag), Consumption‑Credits und Enterprise‑Agreements; Bundling über Data/Integration erwartet hohe Wallet‑Penetration.
- Ökosystem & Offenheit: Neue Metrik "Agentic Work Units" zur Messung von Arbeit statt nur Token‑Verbrauch; enge Partnerschaften mit Modell‑Anbietern (OpenAI, Anthropic) und Integration in Slack, MuleSoft, Informatica/Tableau.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Was neu ist: Einführung der Metrik "Agentic Work Units" zur Erfassung realer Arbeitseinheiten; konkrete Produktdemos (Agent Force Builder, Simulator, Testing Center) und Betonung von Data 360/Informatica als Voraussetzung für skalierbare Agent‑Deployments. Keine neue Finanz‑Guidance angekündigt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- ARR‑Pfad: Analysten fragten nach langfristigem ARR‑Ceiling und dem Weg zum Fiskaljahr‑'30‑Ziel; Management gab Struktur (Monetarisierungsmodelle) und Beispiele für 2–4x Wallet‑Uplifts, nannte aber keine neue konkrete Langfristzahl.
- Margen & Kosten: Nachfrage zu Modellkosten und Bruttomargen; Antwort: Optimierung durch Modellwahl, Determinismus, Testing und Infrastruktur‑Effizienz, aber kurz‑ bis mittelfristig Investitionen (z. B. Hyperforce) bleiben relevant.
- Data & Governance: Fragen zu Multi‑Agent‑Orchestrierung und Daten‑Lineage beantwortet mit Data 360, offenen APIs und MuleSoft‑Governance; Management betont Integrations‑ und Observability‑Layer.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Investment‑Implikation: Starkes Produktmomentum (Agent Force Wachstum, schnelle Kundenpenetration) bietet Upside durch Cross‑sell und neue Metriken zur Monetarisierung; Risiko bleibt bei Infrastruktur‑Kosten, Implementationsaufwand bei Kunden und der Frage, wie schnell Consumption‑Umsatz skaliert.
Salesforce — Q4 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Leila, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Salesforce Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions].
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Spencer, Executive Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today on our fiscal 2026 Fourth Quarter Results Conference Call. We are trying out a new format today, and as such, have shortened our prepared remarks to ensure we have time for your questions. Our press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our website.
Joining me on the call today are Marc Benioff, Chairman CEO; and Rob Washington, Chief Operating and Finance Officer. We also have Miguel Milano, President and Chief Revenue Officer; and Patrick Stokes, President and Chief Marketing Officer, joining us for the Q&A portion of the call. Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, -- actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements.
A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures Reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results and guidance can be found in our earnings materials and our press release.
And with that, let me hand the call to Marc.
All right. Thanks so much, Mike. We're so thrilled to be here with everybody. And I'll tell you what we're here in this beautiful San Francisco on the 60th floor of Salesforce Tower, and it is recorded day 70 degrees the AI capital of the world, and we're coming here to you live. Really excited about everything that's going on. So let's start with the highlights from one of the absolute best years in our history and one of the best performances in software ever and guiding one of the best performances in software ever, we have delivered phenomenal performance across revenue, across margin expansion, across cash flow and CRPO and RPO. I mean the numbers are really incredible.
For the full year, we delivered $41.5 billion in revenue up 10% year-over-year and 9% constant currency. We had $11.2 billion in revenue for the fourth quarter, up 12% year-over-year, 10% in constant currency rose to $35.1 billion, up 16% year-over-year and 13% in constant currency, and we passed an incredible milestone with $72 billion in total RPO, which is up 14% year-over-year. Now that is a $72 billion in total RPO, up 14% year-over-year in case you missed that point. I did read a tweet that RPO does not matter. But evidently, we have it if it doesn't matter. So total RPO, $72 billion.
Last year, we laid out a path towards double-digit revenue growth by the second half of fiscal year '27 and we're hitting our marks. And based on our strong Q4 performance and the fast start with Informatica, we're updating our fiscal year 30 revenue target to $63 billion. Now that means we're only spending 2 years of the 40s, kind of hard to believe. I have never seen performance like this. But this obviously is not a rational market. We all know this. So we're using our remarkable cash flows to take advantage. This is not our first SaaS paclypse, we have been through many SaaS paclypses.
I remember the horrible SaaS pockets of 2020 when not only the software industry was doing, but we were all dying. But we made it through that. And now everyone is back, doing great -- so we're so grateful to make it through that, and we're going to make it through this at as well. And it's just a great marketing opportunity and a great buying opportunity, and that's why we are doing this incredible repurchase authorization to $50 billion. In fiscal year '26, we returned more than $14 billion or 99% of our free cash flow to shareholders. Thank you, Robin, for that.
And today, we're increasing our share repurchase authorization to $50 billion because -- these are some low prices. So Rob will share more about that in a moment. The biggest brands in the world are choosing Salesforce to lead their genetic transformation companies like Amazon Ford, AT&T Modern Pfizer so many, and these are big deals in Q4 wins over $1 million were up 26% year-over-year. That's just so we know, in Q4 wins over $1 million were up 26% year-over-year. Congratulations Miguel. Wins over $10 million were up 33% year-over-year. For example, the U.S. Army run by Army Secretary, Dan Driscol do an amazing job, has awarded us a 10-year indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity contract with a ceiling of $5.6 billion. Thank you, Dan.
This level of financial performance is a clear signal, a clear signal that companies across every industry and region are investing in Salesforce to become Agentic enterprises, just like we've been talking about now for 2 years, at Dreamforce that the Agentic enterprise is a real idea, and we're going to talk about agent force, and I think it just became an $800 million business. We're going to talk about that.
You've heard me talk about it at Dreamforce and on these calls, our vision of humans and agents working together for years, companies bought apps. We all use apps. I've got apps right here on my phone. I've got apps on my computer. But now I'm using apps and agents. I use them at home, I use them in my company. We can be talking about that. That is a reality. We have 83,000 employees here at Salesforce humans. And we have lots of agents running around as well. Miguel qualified 50,000 leads this week with agents. So we have apps and agents. We have humans and agents working together. We've been talking about that at Dreamforce as well. And this is just an incredible opportunity for Salesforce.
Our market is bigger than ever because not only selling apps, we're selling apps and agents. So bringing humans, agents, apps and data together not just to make people better at their jobs, but to redefine how work gets done. This is just an incredible exciting moment in software. So we're seeing incredible demand for agent force. In its first 15 months, we closed 29,000 deals, up 50% quarter-over-quarter. Customers in production have increased as well, nearly 50% in Q4. It can do more -- have more power, more capability than ever. If you haven't seen the new agent force, you haven't seen agent force, the level of determinism, the voice capabilities, agent for studio, agent force builder.
We are spending a huge amount of time on agent force. I just saw the new agent force demos from our team, it was incredible. We even have agent force running in Slack. We have agent force builder running in Slack. We have amazing things happening and our aid-inforce and data 360ARR, including Informatica, now exceeds 2.9 in billion. I heard ARR doesn't matter anymore. But in case it does, we have $2.9 billion, up 200% year-over-year, more than 75% of our top 100 wins in Q4 included both agent force and Data 360. In a bit, we're going to hear from 3 amazing customers, Wyndham, 1 of my very favorite customers in the world, the world's largest hotel chain, SharkNinja, I just got one of their great new products, I'm sure you know about they've got the best slashing machine. But 1 of the most innovative consumer product companies in the world and SaaStr, an incredible community of B2B software founders, executives, investors and I think you all know that I love Jason, but I've never been more excited about our business here at Salesforce.
No one else is delivering this level of capability at this scale to this many customers. And we are taking the power of the agentic enterprise of these apps and sales force, and we're giving them the security, reliability, availability, scalability that you need to make them successful in business like ours, but in all businesses, in small and medium businesses and general sized businesses and very large enterprises in the government and in ISVs as well.
So this is a category that just did not really exist a year ago. I would just say that look at IT service management. We just launched Salesforce IT service in October, Salesforce ITSM, and in just a few months, Miguel has won over 180 customers, amazing Miguel. But I especially love 5 customers who get to leave the purgatory of ServiceNow like Sunrun Cornerstone, Coolisys and there's others too that we're not allowed to mention, but I might mention them any way. Who are leaving in ServiceNow now for the new Salesforce IT service product, which is about apps and agents, helping you manage all your ITSM. But don't just think it's just that. We built an amazing new life sciences product this year. Agentforce for life sciences and since we launched so many of the global pharma companies, and I've met with so many of the CEOs myself, they're leaving Veeva, the purgatory of a including AstraZeneca, Novartis, Takeda and of course, Albert at Pfizer, they're all saying that they are going to Salesforce Life Sciences, which is a product that has apps and agents. And this is amazing.
They are the most regulated businesses in the world. and they're choosing Salesforce. And over the years, I've met with untold numbers of customers, call it thousands, call it more than that. They used to tell me maybe, okay, I want to roll my own AI. I'm going to build my own model, I've been to build my own agent. I said, "Tell me about that, let me know how that goes, show me exactly what you're doing. Or you can just turn it on in the Salesforce product you already have. You have Sales Cloud, turn on the agents. You have Service Cloud, turn on the agents, our marketing cloud, turn on the agent. You have Slack, turn on Slack bot and that idea that every app now has the capability to have agents.
So customers tell me that they want to basically kind of get to that next level. And the way to do that is by including this context, the ability for the AI, the data to know you. No better example of that than Slack bot immediately as you turn it on you're a Slack customer, it looks at all your slack. It looks at your DMs, it looks through Salesforce. It looks through Google. It looks even that Microsoft teams as hard as that is for some agents to go and do, but we've told them how to do it.
And then it says, I understand your business, and I can give you help, advice, support. And in fact, a recent survey of 100 CIOs found that the number of companies planning to use a platform like this -- this idea of apps and agents has now doubled just in the last 18 months because of this, they realize this is more than just turning on mac bot on your Mac mini okay, which, by the way, I have a MAC and a setup is great open claw. I love it. But for companies who want to have the reliability, availability, security, okay, the sharing models.
The key parts of that to really make sure that the business is safe and secure while you're running all these skilled agents. Well, let's just know that -- that is what Salesforce is doing. And that's why Salesforce has become one of these incredible companies because our platform provides these amazing 4 layers that you see right here. that everyone needs to convert raw intelligence into real work, everything they need to become in a genetic enterprise. Just look at this. Look at what we felt, look at what we have built, and thank you to our team, they have done a phenomenal job. Srini can't be here because he's in India. He was at the India AI Summit this week, he could not make it back here in time.
Look at what our engineering team has built, and thank you to them. Look at where it starts. First of all, yes, we can use all those large language models. We love them all. We love all of our children equally and down below here, whether it's anthropic or open AI or Mistral or Lama all of them, and there's more coming. They're amazing. World models are coming. They're amazing. They're all down below here, and we're using them. And then, of course, we bring them into Data 360, and that lets you harmonize your data, integrate your data and federate that means connect into other data sources throughout your company and grab it. Other data repositories, you might be using Snowflake or data bricks you might be using big query or anything, even IBM mainframes and you can bring it into Data 360, you activate your data and then it comes up into your apps.
So if you're using the service app, and you want to have an experience like help that salesforce.com for your company. Now the service app has that Agentic capability, the data is coming up -- and it comes up to the next level to agent force and you can build your agents, train your agents, put the guardrails in your agents, give them voice. They can talk now, they're talking.
And then all of a sudden, you can even manage and orchestrate and collaborate from Slack. So this is our architecture. And all of this is unified, integrated and that idea that we can deliver this unified platform to our customers to help them deliver humans and agents working together. So you can see right here, agent force has the tooling to build to manage to orchestrate the agents to make them talk to give them determinism, to give them the capabilities if they want. And then we have the engagement layer to deliver agentic enterprises, where work happens in Slack across our apps. If you haven't seen Slackbot.
I talked to a lot of customers. So I kind of see Slack but -- why are easy? I have the free edition? I'm like, maybe you should pay us and get the enterprise edition because, boom, that's when all the Slack bot turns on and you can go through your whole company, run your company. I had one of our customers over last night Neil Bushry at Workday. I'm like, have you seen Slack bot and he only like, "No, I have not seen yet. I'm like, you're the biggest latest merely have a like I to sit there and say, look at this, and I'm like said Slack but, I'm having drinks with a meal and I just am trying to like -- given the demo of Slack bot, what should I say to him? What is the strategy between Salesforce and Workday and then boom. It just went through the whole thing, showed him every deal.
He couldn't believe everything that was happening between these our 2 companies, he had to get updated because he's the new CEO of Workday. And it was amazing. That was my real experience. Together, all of this is the complete operating system for the Agentic enterprise. Yes, I'm using it myself. And we're using it, we're customer's hero. And that's crucial because look, we already know now, our customers aren't going to deploy just 1 agent. There's going to be many agents, many capabilities. the ability to automate many different types of work, and they're going to deploy hundreds or thousands. Many are going to be from us.
Others could be from other amazing companies like one that just mentioned Workday I love them. But these agents can't work in isolation. -- like it, each one of them needs to okay. So that home is Salesforce. And they are calling us through the MCP server or maybe even just through one of our core platforms, and the more agents that our company deploys us or anyone else, the more essential our platform becomes. This is my personal testimonial.
I'm giving you my personal testimonial how I run Salesforce. You can come here, I will show you how I run a business with apps and agents together. And it's why nearly 90% of Forbes top 50 AI companies. Forbes top 50 AI companies use Salesforce and Slack. And if there is a SaaS polyps, I think it might be eaten by the SaaS watch because there are a lot of companies using a lot of SaaS because SaaS just got a lot better with agents as a service. Now I won't tell you exactly tell you what that says. But let's just say they're SaaS and there's also agents as a service. Now I want to tell you how we're measuring the value our platform delivers to customers. Today, we are 1 of the largest consumers of tokens in the world to date, now over 19 trillion tokens. So we continue to show you that because -- we want you to see that we're actually doing what we say.
I know that there's been some enterprise software companies who say they're doing agents or they're doing AI, but then they're not showing up in the token rankings from the language model companies. So we're here is $19 trillion, okay, but we really want to take this to another level. And another level is a token on its own doesn't know your customers, your pipeline, your org chart, but Salesforce does. And the value isn't in the token. The value is in what our platform does with it. They work -- that's why today, we're introducing an additional metric. The Agenticwork unit created by our very own Patrick Stokes sitting here at the table. -- the AWU not to be confused with our customer, AWS. And AWU represents one unit of AI work, a genetic work unit. We're rolling this out to see how you like it actually here in earnings. It's a record updated workflow triggered, decision made. MCP called.
And to date, AI agents on the Salesforce platform delivered 2.4 billion agenetic work units. That is where AI isn't just thinking or calling things, it's getting work done, work got transactions, and in Q4 alone, we delivered about $771 million of them, we're still trying to exactly figure out exactly what these numbers mean for us. But what it means for me, is that we are doing what we say that is we are explaining that humans and agents are working together.
We are showing you a business running them. We are showing them how we are making our business better. Our service is so much better this year because we're using our new Service Cloud with our omnichannel supervisor deployed with agent force. Our sales, Miguel just hit record sales numbers, you can see them. We've never sold or had so much ACV in our history in the fourth quarter because not only does he have 15,000 account executives. But he has all these agents who are out there doing this amazing work. So that is so exciting. This is raw intelligence converted into the real work. It's driving efficiency and growth.
Okay. Now let me tell you about one of the biggest drivers of these work units, Slack bot. A lot of you use Slack, I use Slack every day. It's the employee, ultimate employee agent. And many of you know that ex the social media platform hosts about 500 million messages a day, right? Elen must do an amazing job on x, incredible what he has done. But did you know that Slack Host about 1 billion messages a day.
So while X amazing X, I use it myself. I just tweeted something 500 million messages a day. Well, Slack is hosting 1 billion messages a day. And remember, every one of them is about getting work done. That's why we bought it. Remember, Slack's ticker symbol was work. Slack bot can access all of those messages as well as your files, your calendar, your sales force, your Google, your Microsoft teams you're this year that Slack bot goes around, pulls it all together, -- and then it knows your business. So then it's able to orchestrate with other agents. It has an incredible partner marketplace, really the #1 AI ecosystem in the world and has more than 350 AI apps and agents already. There is no other AI ecosystem like it.
One of those partners is the ingrate [indiscernible], we love anthropic. We love Dario, Daniella. I tweeted about what they did yesterday, incredible demo. Just yesterday, Dario demonstrated how he is doing something amazing with Salesforce in the enterprise. Every single one of their demos, whether it was for HR, engineering investment banking, started at ending in Slack, pretty awesome. And so -- it's about agents and apps, humans agents. It's all working together. You can see it in his demos. You can see it in our demos.
By the way, anthropic runs its whole global operation on Salesforce and Slack I think actually every AI company does. Yes, I think they do. So maybe you saw they're hiring a Salesforce admin, Dario. Let us know if you need new names. But I think it's just a point we're making that sales force is doing great with these AI companies. We're so thrilled of our relationship with Dario and I think we just put another $100 million into the new round.
We're up about $330 million in topic invested is almost about 1% of enthropic. And believe me, I wish we had invested a lot more, John. I don't know why we didn't do more. Okay. With that, it's time we're going to hear from some of our most inspiring customers becoming Agentic enterprises. We have the great Mark. Mark, I see you. Mark is there from SharkNinja. Mark Hey, Mark, congratulations to you and your team, what a quarter? Mark, I'm so thrilled to talk to you, and I love all your products, and thank you for the Christmas presents. I have them, and I'm using them.
Appreciate it. I'm really happy that so much of our holiday selling season was really driven by the launch of Salesforce that, as you know, happened at the end of September and Would love to talk to you about it.
Well, Mark, you know that we've been working together now, just BMU as well as with our whole sales team to make we can automate all of SharkNinja. We want to automate your sales, service, marketing or commerce. Everything you're doing, I'm so excited about your future. We have our best team working with you. Give us your view of what's happened and the value we've been able to deliver, what's your biggest surprise? What in the slushy machine, what came out?
Look, Marc, I mean, we launched 25 products a year, and we're really innovating at speed. And we need customer service solutions that move just as fast I mean most companies treat service as a cost center. For us, Marc, it's really about lifetime value of the consumer. I mean we view service as a growth engine for the business. And it's not just about servicing problems, it's about building lifetime value.
We set up with you and your team, a guided shopping agent in 8 weeks right before the holiday season. I was nervous about it as I went to my team and I said, we're putting this in place in October. There's generally kind of a cutoff in our business where after October 1, you don't really do anything. And we launched this in 8 weeks, and it brought tremendous value to the consumer. I mean, it helped them with researching and buying and troubleshooting really all in one seamless conversation. So it was a great success for us this holiday season.
Well, Mark, I think that working with you has been extremely interesting because you're very much a B2C company. And there are so many exciting things that you're doing. When you look at what Salesforce has done and deployed, especially in regards to AI and agents and apps, where has it really impacted you the most?
Well, look, let me start with this stat for you. I mean, just since we launched Salesforce in Q4, I mean, agents have participated in 0.25 million consumer engagements during that period of time. So just in a really, really short period of time, 0.25 million engagements.
We put so many products out into the market and sometimes that many products creates complexity for the consumer. And so whether they're calling about a service issue or a troubleshooting issue or where is my order issue, it's allowed our customer service agents to focus on really the really challenging issues, and it's freed up an enormous amount of time for them -- it's a win for the consumer because the consumer is getting their questions answered quickly, they're not waiting. And it's a win for us because it's driving down cost. And it's, in the end, just having a better service experience.
Well, Mark, I just want to thank you so much. We're so grateful to you as a customer of Salesforce. It has been an absolute pleasure getting to know you, working with you -- and I think that we have such a great future together and thank you for the Christmas presents. I'm using them. I made some amazing Mango survey actually this week and it was awesome.
Sounds great. Thanks, Marc.
Bye, Mark. Great to see you. Well, I've been so thrilled to work with Mark, but I have to also introduce you to another really good friend of mine, Jeff at Wyndham and you probably heard from Jeff this week, he had a phenomenal quarter, doing great the #1 hotel in the world, Jeff, we are so thrilled. Jeff, congratulations on everything that's going on with Wyndham, we're thrilled. Give us your vision of what's going on in the world and with Wyndham and we'd love to hear how you're using Salesforce as well.
When we have -- Mark -- I mean, when you think about just how far we've come in the last year, today, we have over 5,000 deployments of agent force across our over 8,300 hotels. It is a huge, huge part of our Agentic platform, and we are really just getting started. We're starting to roll out to Canada and internationally. But with sales force tools like MuleSoft and Data 360, we have built a single source of truth, unified all of our guests reservation information and data, all of their loyalty information and all of their CRM data so that all of our agents now are operating with the same trusted and real-time guests and hotel information, which they weren't before.
We're calling it Wyndham Guest 360. It is a key enabler for our agent foundry. And it is delighting in better guest experiences, improving those experiences and building on increased loyalty engagement. But most importantly, Mark, you've talked a lot about about labor, which is a genetic, -- it is taking millions of dollars of labor costs from our small business owners in the front office out of their operation and it is driving millions of dollars of increased revenue for these franchisees.
Well, I just have to say I just have to say this 1 thing, which is I have been hugely surprised at how fast you have gone Jeff. We work with all the major hotel companies and I love them all, and I stay in them all. They're fantastic. I'm actually going to stay to Wyndham Hotel tonight. I'm flying East. But I have to ask you this question, Jeff, because I don't understand how are you going so fast? What are you doing? Is this because you're leading from the top? I mean, you seem to like -- I just talked from Mark at SharpNinja, he really is owning this -- why are you guys going so fast? Why are you doing so well? I mean it's just you're loading out these apps and agents that nor team is crushing it. What is going on?
We're in the hospitality business, and we always say it's all about humans, yes. But it is humans as you've always said, with agents who are driving that customer success together. Think about our customers. Before our integration with you all, our agents had to spend time gathering basic guest information on who Marc Benioff was before he checked in tonight.
And that was not easily at their fingertips or even worse, asking Marc for his information that we should have had -- and our agents now have encyclopedic knowledge. Think about it of all of your guests history, all of your booking behavior, all of your loyalty status because we tied it all together, giving us an ability to answer any question imaginable that any guests like you might have before you check in tonight before you stay.
In moments, not minutes, and we're booking you into your preferred room based on our knowledge, our guest, sales force knowledge of your past day history. We are successfully working now. I hope to upsell you a suite upgrade if we haven't already an early check-in Sounds like you're getting in at a late checkout tomorrow if you'd like one. I don't know if you're bringing -- if you have pets, but if you were, those agents would be selling you a pet or an F&B...
They're going to jump in.
But look, this is all being done autonomously, which small business owners and operators would not have had time to do before. we have been working so hard. It is generating so much money. We're seeing faster average speeds of answer. 0 hold times. I've heard you talk a lot about why no customer should wait. And that's why we're doing it. we're receiving and we're moving more importantly, millions and millions of dollars, as I said, in the front office, but we're generating millions of dollars of increased ancillary revenues to these small business owners. It's not costing anything.
And we're also seeing, which is really, really important, a 200 basis point increase in direct bookings. -- from AI voice agents and AI voice agent conversion versus having to get those bookings through expensive third-party online travel agencies. That is increasing guest satisfaction. Our guest satisfaction scores are up 400 basis points, they've never been higher. And this customer experience that we've created is more efficient. Again, humans with agents driving customer success, we're agent first, and we're very proud of it.
Well, I just want to thank you so much, Jeff, thank you, and thanks to your team because I'll tell you, it takes a great leader like you, but it also takes a great team and you've got both, and you've made something really incredible happened, a great job and congratulations.
We're proud to be with you. Our Chief Commercial Officer, who was on stage with you at Dreamforce. -- strict will be back this year.
So I hope you come to Dreamforce this year. Bye. Jeff. All right. Well, I want to now introduce you to an incredible person who I've known for 20 years, and it's very inspiring entrepreneurs, really become a huge influencer in the world is getting his hands story to the great company called SaaStr building agents, learning how they work, deploying them, really being on the bleeding edge, the cutting edge of this technology, and thanks for being here, Jason. I'm so thrilled to have you.
Super exciting. Yes. Congrats on the quarter, by the way.
Jason, I just want to ask you one question. What is it that's making this happen? What is inspiring you to kind of transform yourself and transform SaaStr to this incredible opportunity?
Well, look, maybe 2 things. If you're -- we're builders. We've been -- I mean, you were -- I think you were like on Radio Shack computers or something back in the day, right? We've been building since here rolling game we're building at our heart, right? And this is the most exciting time to build ever, ever for us as executives, entrepreneurs honestly, if you're not excited to be building an agentic you should quit, you should go off and go to pasture, do your next thing.
So we backed into agents because I got tired after our own big event of rebuilding the team and we went all in and we said, I want to try to rebuild the whole team with agents about almost 10 months ago, agent force was a key part of that. And we wanted to push it early. Can you really do all of this -- all these go-to-market motions with agents and the numbers are pretty good.
Well, you've been a pioneer. You -- it's a funny thing because in our own independent world, here we are, we're out here building agent force, Slack bot, you know that. We also acquired Momentum and we acquired qualified and so forth. We're so excited about these companies. And then all of a sudden, Well, you kind of were building our vision of the future, totally independently -- and so we felt very validated in a way. It was kind of crazy. But then we looked at you and said, "Wow, this is a true visionary, and you really have always had a lot of clarity, not just in SaaS, before that, you know that.
And now here you are as agents as a Service as well. You have your vision there now as well. So I guess once a visionary, always a visionary, -- but give us your vision then. Where are we going? Because you've heard about the SaaS pokalypse. And you know that this isn't our first SaaS pokalypse. We've had a few of them. But now where are we going over the next couple of years?
Well, I think -- and I think this is good for Salesforce, but I think we're underestimating how powerful these agents are. I think Look, for most people, AI is confusing, the media is confusing, what the hell is going on. Let me simplify this. I was just looking at our numbers on agent force this morning. So far, and again, we're a small organization. We went from humans to 2.5 and 20 agents, okay? That's a lot of change. But an Agentforce alone, as a tiny organization, we closed $2.7 million. That's not the the army contract you got, but that's a lot for us, 2.7% with an agent, and we have 3.5 million more in the pipeline. Those are agents and it works. And so that is exciting. -- that is exciting that these agents can go out and sell for you. And the first thing I did is...
Just kind of crazy and amazing is it's crazy.
It just wasn't -- not only was this not really possible a year ago -- and this is this -- a year -- the problem -- all of us, we were using chatGPT in the early days. It was all hallucinations. It was hard to believe this stuff would work even 18 months ago, wasn't it? It was hard to believe, but everything got okay last summer, and then at the end of the year, it got great. And there's reasons that Salesforce has got great, but to be nerdy, even a anthropic, your customer, when they rolled out these 4 do models, up to 4, 5 for B2B stuff like we do, it wasn't a little bit better.
It was like jaw-droppingly better. The hallucinations will be worse than a human mixes and the productivity side. So it's just -- we've never seen these gains and the idea that now our sales force instance can run autonomously versus doing manual data entry. I mean, this was always a dream.
I want to tell everyone exactly why I wanted you here because number 1 is, yes, we love -- by the way, market churning was awesome, right? And then we had Jeff at Wyndham. And these are very big companies, like good sized companies and not the biggest companies in the world, but incredible companies. But -- you're a small company. in some ways, a selepreneur, right? You're an entrepreneur or -- and I think that it is going to go across the whole market that is small businesses are benefiting, medium, we call small business 0 to 200 employees. Maybe that's where you are.
Then we have 200200 to 2,000 medium, and we have the 2,000 to 5,000 in general business. Then we have the 5,000 monsters then we have the government. We have software companies. Every segment is impacted by this. Don't you think every company is impacted.
I think everyone was going to look at their business and say, what can I fully automate with an agent. Everyone is -- you're going to unlatch a ton of creativity, right? The key thing that I've learned for folks is just start with 1 use case. For us, it was what you -- the idea you came up with like last summer, reactivate the leads the sales team never talked to. That was our first use case. Find something or with Wyndham.
A huge thing, right? Because like believe there's $20 million, $30 million. We don't even know, maybe 100 million people we didn't call back in the last 26 years. But Miguel called back 50,000 people with agents last week that we would not have gotten to. Even though he's got all these reps, he still doesn't have the ability to call everybody back. It's amazing.
We did 3,000 with agent force. And for 1 -- I was just looking at a couple of examples. We closed a $250,000 customer this week. But the first 1 with agent force was Freshworks. You know Freshworks. They do support and a bunch of other stuff. -- but they've changed. Gaurish isn't the CEO anymore. The marketing teams turned over. We don't know anybody. The agent found the right person and close the deal. That's sort of magical. That wouldn't have really been possible without agents they are.p
It's just like -- that's exciting.
Exciting. And the fact that every company can start with something here, they can reactivate something or even with Wyndham responding after hours. And actually, my old Head of Customer Success is now Head of SMB at PayPal, they use agent force. And he just told me -- texted me this morning or this morning, they have a broken merchant flow where folks would sign up to use PayPal and then they would abandon it like an abandoned cart. They put agent force on it and the conversion rates are much higher, but they couldn't get any people to do this, right? So all of us have some process that to do.
It's so exciting because you have humans and agents working together. You're working with your agents. It's the apps of the agents working together. But it's kind of fun because I think that for the last 26 years, you and I, we've been in this kind of SaaS industry, and it's all been all about apps. And that's now -- and the apps haven't gone away, but as PayPal is still using those apps, they -- by the way, PaycapPalis a huge customer in sales, B2B and also service call center contact center. But now just as you articulated so beautifully, more productivity, more capability, the ability -- the lost card idea. That's what we're finding this ability.
So now we're selling not just in the SaaS apps world, we're also selling agents -- and yes, these 2 are going to be 2 markets and who knows, maybe one will be bigger than the other. Maybe they'll both be the same size. We don't exactly know. I mean we just -- we just gave guidance that we're going to do $46.2 billion this year on revenue. So I can't tell you when the -- an agent force is like about an $800 million business now. So I can't tell you exactly when Agentforce will be a $46 billion or $30 billion. But it has the potential to go just like -- but plan
Help me that's 46 3, help me, you guys.
46x3 is 120 plus 18.
I think agent force -- and I'm not being infectious. I think it will be $1 million at the table because I think the value is about 3x the software -- this is why I think the SaaS clips or SaaS watch lips or whatever, I think there's some truth to this because agents are changing the world. And if you're not -- if you don't have agent force, if you're one of the leaders and you don't -- and you're not there, I think it's fair to be concerned, right? But the value -- I wrote this post about how much more valuable salesforce is as with our agents. It's not a little more value. It is like 10xx more valuable.
I don't know you are using Salesforce really 6 months ago.p
Not really. We -- our team had shrunk -- and the value is the data for some reps ever. never fire, they left. -- they -- the last.
Yes, now you have like a team of agents and humans and your company is bigger and more successful than ever. we're using sales force going to be amazing this year, right?
okay? Or even -- and actually, what's interesting is not only are these agents using more sales or, I just figured this out today. the most dated part of our software stack is a company called Marketo. You'll remember from the old days for marketing automation Back in the day, very innovative, right? Jo dropped in the day. We're sort of a prisoner. We're stuck on it. These agents.
I got some things to show you there.
Yes. But the agents, our sales force agents have taken all of that data and put into Salesforce. So now Salesforce is accumulating all the value from all these other stores and becoming the -- so that's why whatever the math is. I'm going to bet on the 150. I'm not going to -- it might take 8 years, but I think it's -- I think the Agentic side is worth 3 to 4x the software side.
Really appreciate you joining the earnings call. Great. Thanks, everybody. All right. There we go. We just have 3 great customers. We gave some numbers. And now I'm turning it over to you, Rob and take it over.
Thanks, Marc. What an amazing trilogy of 3 great questions. Absolutely. On a great year. We're going to turn to the numbers and tell everybody about it. So good afternoon. We closed an exceptionally strong fiscal year. We have rebuilt our platform to convert the raw intelligence of LLMs into real work that drives revenue, as we just heard about, reduces costs and scales reliably without limits. This is powering the transition to the genic enterprise for our customers and ourselves.
So to share a few data points, as expected, as Marc said, we had a great quarter. a great year. We finished the fiscal year '26 with second half net new AOV growth ahead of second half AOV growth. Agent force and Data 360 ARR inclusive of Informatica Cloud ARR reached $2.9 billion. That's up over 200% year-over-year. This includes Informatica Cloud ARR of $1.1 billion an agent force ARR of approximately $800 million, which is up 169% year-over-year. New bookings for agent force 1 edition and agent force for apps or as we call it our most premium SKUs nearly tripled quarter-over-quarter.
Our consumption flywheel is spinning faster than ever. In the quarter, more than 60% of agent force and Data 360 bookings came from existing customers expanding their commitments.
Looking at our largest deals, -- every single 1 of our top 10 wins included agent force, data, sales, service, platform and analytics. Our newest addition to our portfolio Informatica, landed in 6 of those top 10 wins, proving it is a critical component of us building the data foundation for the Agentic enterprise. So let's dive a bit further into these incredible results. Subscription and support revenue grew slightly above 10% year-over-year in nominal and constant currency.
Total revenue was $41.5 billion, up 10% year-over-year in nominal and 9% in constant currency, driven by agent force, Data 360, Slack, Agentforce sales and service performance. Informatica's Q4 results also outperformed our expectations. This strong performance was partially offset by continued weakness in marketing, in commerce, weaker-than-expected Tableau performance and the on-prem revenue timing in Tableau and MuleSoft we shared last quarter.
Q4 revenue attrition ended the year at approximately 8%, in line with recent trends. Our current remaining performance obligation, or CRPO, ended Q4 at $35.1 billion, which was up approximately 16% year-over-year in nominal and 13% in constant currency, driven by strong net new AOV, especially in agent force, Data 360, Slack and sales. This does include a 4-point contribution from Informatica. Our top priority remains accelerating growth.
Based on our FY '26 net new AOV performance, we are more confident in our path to reaccelerate organic revenue in second half FY '27. And as outlined at Investor Day. Given our strong net new AOV performance and the incorporation of Informatica, we are updating our FY '30 framework as follows: We are now targeting FY '30 revenue of $63 billion, which represents an 11% CAGR from FY '26 to FY '30.
We remain on track to roll a 50 by FY '30, and we are pleased that with our continued focus on operational excellence, we delivered 60 basis points of expansion in FY '26. As we think about FY '27 and fueling our framework, we are making targeted investments, including advancing our Hyperforce third-party infrastructure for trust and security, ramping our AE capacity and scaling FTEs to drive adoption.
These investments are partially funded by efficiency we've unlocked becoming the lean agentic enterprise. As our own customer 0. Before we turn to guidance, a quick update on capital allocation. I'm proud to say that we have achieved all elements of our Investor Day commitments including capital allocation.
Also, our Board has approved a 5.8% increase in our quarterly dividend to $0.44 per share. Additionally, and as you've heard, given the current stock price dislocation, the most prudent investment we can make is in Salesforce. We are updating our share repurchase authorization to $50 billion.
So let's talk about FY '27. We are initiating fiscal year '27 revenue guidance of $45.8 billion to $46.2 billion. growth of approximately 10% to 11% in nominal and constant currency. We expect subscription and support growth guidance of slightly under 12% year-over-year or approximately 11% year-over-year in constant currency. This is fueled by continued momentum in agent force and Data 360, and partially offset by weakness in marketing, commerce and Tableau.
Our non-GAAP operating margin guidance is 34.3%, an expansion of 20 basis points. As I mentioned, this is the year where we are making further investments to fuel long-term growth and ensure customer success with Agentforce. We expect GAAP operating margin of 20.9%, an expansion of 80 basis points.
Turning to Q1 guidance. We expect revenue of $11.03 billion to $11.08 billion, growth of approximately 12% to 13% in nominal and 10% to 11% in constant currency. CRPO growth for Q1 is expected to be approximately 14% year-over-year in nominal and approximately 13% year-over-year in constant currency.
Clearly, we are executing against our FY '30 framework, accelerating growth and investing with discipline, including investing in Salesforce via share repurchases.
Before we wrap up to better reflect our Agentic enterprise strategy, we are reevaluating our revenue by cloud disclosures in FY '27. So stay tuned for an update on this disclosure prior to our Q1 earnings release. Finally, a big thank you to all of our employees for their dedication and hard work delivering a very successful FY '26 and onward to an incredible FY '27.
Mike, I'll turn it over to you.
Thanks, Robin. And with that, we're Leila,we're going to go to the first question, please.
[Operator Instructions] And your first question will come from Keith Weiss with Morgan Stanley.
2. Question Answer
Excellent. Congratulations on a a really nice end to FY '26. -- particularly when it comes to the Agentforce numbers, the agent force members are definitely eye-popping getting to a big scale and still growing at really, really high rates. But on the other side of that, CRPO perhaps was a little bit disappointing.
On an organic basis, you grew that at 9%, just in line with your guidance. And typically, we expect a little bit of a bet, 100, 150 basis points of a beat. And I think that's soaking some concerns with investors can Salesforce do both? Can we grow a big agent for his business and sustain the growth and momentum in the broader sales force portfolio when we bring along the entirety of the business. So can you talk to that aspect, can agent force Catalan as the broader sales force product portfolio? Can it bring along everything? And what gives you confidence in that acceleration in the back half of the year?
All right. Well, I think that, that is absolutely a great question. And I think the reason why it's such a great question is because Salesforce is, just as you said, it's a comprehensive business. We're closing new business, new ideas. We have building new technology, and we also carry with us that we are a subscription business. So we're carrying with us our legacy as well, and we're renewing and moving that legacy business forward. That's also one of the exciting parts of Salesforce because that also gives us the predictability to understand what's going to happen in the future fiscal years.
So yes, we are innovating. We're creating the future. We're adding to the future. We're also renewing our customers. And I have to tell you, we're just very proud actually of the numbers. I mean this fiscal year is far better than I expected at the beginning of the year than the fourth quarter, actually, even in the third and fourth quarter, Miguel's numbers were far exceeded my expectations. And, to your point, agent force also and also Data 360 are exceeding our expectations. And yes, could we sell more? Could we renew more? Can we do more? Can we do this? Can we do all these various things we absolutely can, but we are very grateful for what we've been able to achieve so far. Robin, do you want to add to that?
Yes. I agree with that. I think we're monetizing AI keep through many different fashions. We've got multiple ways to monetize. We're seeing great growth, as I mentioned, in our premium SKUs. We're seeing acceleration. I think just listening to the 3 customer interviews talks about the great value that they're getting from core -- it's also important to point out, we didn't talk about it a lot, but our seats, we're still seeing them grow year-on-year and quarter-on-quarter.
So what we see is now with agent force with the system that you laid out, the system with the agency, et cetera. we're just seeing incremental value to our software. And some of it's going to be consumption-based, but we're going to have a hybrid model. Seats will continue to be a key component of our growth going forward. And what we hope to see is just what you heard from the 3 customers today, incremental value coming as the result of our Agentic technology and capabilities.
Your next question will come from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
Marc, the $50 billion buyback, I guess many are asking given the falloff in big multiples, why not lean a little harder in acquiring technology in M&A versus buying the stock back?
Well, I really appreciate that. I think, Brent, the way to look at this is, I'll just tell you how I look at it, which is that there's many uses of cash. Number 1 is dividend. We just increased the dividend by 5%. That's one use of cash, very important. And then we're also looking at buyback, traditional buybacks, okay? And so we're doing that. We've done that very aggressively over the last few years, as you know. And acquisitions, we will continue to do acquisitions, but using our new formula that we put into place, and we've done now quite a few acquisitions using that new formula and it's been great. I wish I had used it actually through the entire history of Salesforce, I think we have a much better understanding of how to do acquisitions that are accretive to the business, but not dilutive to investors.
And then debt, so I think there is a role here that we're just very underleveraged on our balance sheet. And I think, look, you're a great banker. You've been a great banker for decades now. I think if you look at our balance sheet, now we're going to do more than $16 billion in cash flow this year we're not using debt effectively. And I think at these prices in the market, the ability actually to kind of come to terms that we had some acquisitions in the past like Slack and Tableau that diluted our investors, I think, now is the opportunity to take some of that stock back out of the market. And these are great prices. I'm sure you would agree with that.
And we want to use our capital correctly. And I think that is a great way to do that. And I think our stock is a great price, and I want Robin to buy as much of it as he possibly can.
And I'd maybe add to that, Brent, doesn't preclude us from doing all the things you mentioned to grow, as Mark just said, with our free cash flow with our cash balance with our access to market were going to do, we brought 10 companies, and we also returned over 99% of our free cash flow to our shareholders, be your buybacks and dividends. So as we think about optimizing our balance sheet to Marc's point, we're positioning ourselves to grow organically and inorganically and also return value to our shareholders.
I think that when you look at such a huge cash flow number, although we just finished a $15 billion a year coming into it, what will we be probably at least a $16.5 billion cash flow year, then we should be really just thinking about how do we use cash correctly. What is the right way to use cash. And yes, I think that there are many ways to use cash. But focusing on those 4 things, the dividend the buyback, the acquisition and debt, all 4 critical. And if you have other ideas or you have other thoughts, we're very open. I'd love to have the conversation, of course.
Our next question will come from Kirk Materne with Evercore.
Marc, you alluded to it in your comments, the presentation actually by Anthropic, I thought was an interesting example of sort of a better together strategy with you and one of the model partners. But there is continued concern that those providers might become more competitive with you over time. I was wondering if you could just give us an idea of how you see the lines of demarcation in terms of partnering as well as potentially competing down the line, where do you think you guys have a right to win, where they might have a right to win. I think just a little bit more color on that would be helpful in terms of people's view of where we might be going in terms of the partnerships with those companies.
Well, no, I'd be delighted to do that, and maybe we can even put up our slide again of our kind of stack diagram because it makes it really clear what our vision of the world is, which is at one very critical part of this these new models whether it's open AI, whether it's in anthoropic, whether it's Gemini, whether it's LAMA, whether it's you pick the Deep Seek, Mistral, there's so many -- you can go off as well to look at that there's thousands of them.
We make some of them ourselves. These models are new parts of our infrastructure that we really did not have in place a few years ago. We had some of our own models. You remember when we did Einstein, and I would talk about on the earnings call that I was using Einstein to understand what was happening in my business, that was all based on Salesforce models. That we had. So we've always had models at the bottom of our infrastructure, but now we really are able to kind of say, look at this, we've done 19 trillion tokens without these models. So these models here, that's who we have today. They will change over time. They're a critical part of our infrastructure.
I think the strategic question that you're asking is this, not only does it look like that in the slide that we just saw. But -- could those models themselves become platforms. So could open AI then also be a platform could entropic platform, can Gemini be a platform can deep seek be a platform can Mistral be a platform, can Lama be its own platform. So that in the way that we have Windows and Mac, or HTML or different things as platforms where applications all of a sudden appear will all of a sudden an application come in within one of those platforms and then use some of those services.
Absolutely. Those could be new platforms, there will also be other new platforms. I have a platform right here as well. iOS. There are many platforms. And our job as a software company is to help our customers to create success and to take that and help them connect with their customers in a whole new way. So we'll deliver our products, our capabilities, our value proposition with our customer relationships, of course, we have over 150,000, I think, customers on our core, 1 million on Slack.
We have 15,000 sales reps who are out there their job is to work with customers to help architect their future success with these ideas. And our primary vision though, today, because this in the current reality -- this is about humans and agents working together. And these customers, like you saw today with Wyndham, with SharkNinja, even SaaStr, even Salesforce. Our job is to take what's available today and make it successful.
And that isn't where those platforms are today, as you know. And in your business, you have -- you work for an amazing company. Keith works or an amazing company. And these large banks where we are providing a lot of automation for the sales professionals, the service professionals. There is a lot to do to not only automate those call centers, those contact centers, the sales forces, the employees with Slack, but then to also then unleash the agents in a way that is compliant, that is secure, that is available, that is scalable, that is reliable, that is able to operate in hand in hand. So if you go to help.salesforce.com today, and you want to get help from Salesforce, you know that you're going to be able to automatically connect to our contact center as well.
That's incredible. We couldn't do that just a couple of years ago. as you know. So that's the current way we're deploying. Well there could there be other ways that we deploy. It's definitely possible the future could have many different forms, but we can see right now what we're going to sell this year to our customers. We have a lot to sell and a lot to do.
Your next question will come from Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs.
I wanted to ask the team about the $2.4 billion disclosure on AWUs. Tell us a little bit about how you translate the tokens and the Agenticwork units to monetization? I know you've been working on ALA -- how do you think about the evolution of the time and the pricing model, Jason, from Sater was just talking about the agent valley of the stack being created a 4x more than software value at the stacks. So tell us a little bit more about how the ELAs are going and Robin for you specifically, how does it impact gross margin?
I think Patrick should really lead this AWU discussion because it's kind of his brain child and he was very unhappy that I keep bringing out this token number because I'm very impressed. We have 19 trillion tokens, but because I think that really shows that we're really using these products to deploy these agents.
Well, I mean everybody can now know agent force is hugely successful. And all the new capabilities of agent force, the determinism, the voice, the programmability, agent for studio and Fort Builder and now Slack bot as well. But I think that then there's another level of this idea of agentic work units. So why don't you tell us what your vision?
Yes, sure. So as we started looking at how our customers were using agent force, and we started looking at how we're consuming tokens from the model providers, right? All those models that sit at the bottom of our layer from open AI and from anthropic, -- what they're doing is they're providing intelligence into our system, and we're able to measure that intelligence through the lens of a token, and that's how most of these model companies are charging. It's the amount of tokens that your platform, in our case, is consuming.
But when we started looking at that across our customers, we can start to see, okay, our top 10 customers are consuming this many tokens. We know how many tokens sales force is consuming internally. But it begs the question, well, is it -- are they doing anything? Are they working? Are they providing any value? Or is it just input and output of intelligence, right? So you can ask it a question, it can write you a poem, but that's not really all that valuable in the enterprise world, what's valuable is creating a document for you or updating a record or helping us right here at this table, we all use Slack bot to prepare our notes here, our customer stories, we're all preparing that with Slack bottom. So what we did is we said, what if we could count those individual work units.
And then what if we could look at those work units relative to the tokens, and we said, "Oh, there's a relationship between the 2. We can start to see a ratio of tokens being consumed and work coming out. And that ratio starts to become really interesting because now we can look at our customers and say, "Hey, customer A, you have a really nice ratio. You're getting a lot of work done on the platform for the amount of tokens that you're consuming hey, Mr. Customer B, your relationship is actually not so good. You're consuming a ton of tokens and not getting a lot of work done. What can we do to help you? So -- it becomes a really kind of interesting way.
The tokens are kind of a leading indicator, but the work unit we think is a much more valuable indicator in terms of where the value is actually coming from for our customers and for our own transformation into an agentic enterprise. But maybe on the monetization, I can talk to you.
Yes, I mean this is something that we continue to look, I think you were asking specifically Gabriela about what does it do to gross margins. And as we think about margins in the short run, we think we're pretty neutral. Patrick talked about this differentiation between tokens and AWU, while tokens, those prices, we're working with our various partners, those are going to start to go down over time and commoditize, but also importantly, when you think about our products, engineering and product is working on ways to continue to fine-tune our products with things like agent force scripts, which is going to make it easier for us to produce the work, but reduce the overall costs. So those are things. And then again, we're optimizing. We're using customer 0. Marc talks about the fact that we're allocating resources. We're also looking at other things to overall continue to drive our efficiency down.
So short term, we don't see gross margins getting worse. fairly neutral, long time. We're doing everything in conjunction with our FY '27 framework and our overall operating margin improvement to continue to get efficiencies in gross margin and operating margin.
Miguel, do you want to take on the question about AWUs and kind of what we're seeing in the market and how customers are consuming this technology.
Yes. I've been working very hard for the last quarter to have this minute because I really want to tell you the story. -- was stellar. You heard the numbers at the time. We made a very clear commitment, Robin and I in partnership at the Investor Day, we shared 3 key messages to you all. Number 1 is we were seeing the very likely possibility of revenue reacceleration in 12 to 18 months. That was 4 months ago.
Today, we are saying that the revenue reacceleration, organic revenue acceleration of subscription and support is going to happen in H2 and we are very -- we are committed to that, and we are certain now because we've seen the net AUV growth outpacing the AUV growth in H2 last year.
We're sitting now in Q1. We're looking at Q1 and Q2 and I can tell you with absolute confidence that the AUV growth is going to significantly outpace the AUV growth. So now 4 quarters of will be pulling up the AUV growth is going to finally translate in H2 into a revenue reacceleration. That was number one.
Number 2 was the fiscal year 30 a long-term durable growth plan. we are recommitted to that to the point that we've increased the target from 60% to 63%. If you do the math, it's not all because Informatica, it's because we are more and more certain that we are going to hit the numbers.
And then the third thing, which is substantially important, and it goes to the monetization. And to the ILA question is we have found the formula to monetize AI. There are 3 ways Three ways, distinct ways, and the main ones that we are using to monetize AI.
Number one is our large installed base of 100 millions of seats, we are upgrading to our premium SKUs that contain already embedded AI and unlimited access to Agentic for employee use cases. Number one.
We've seen, as Robin referred to earlier, that SKU business has triple agent force, first edition and agent force store sales and service has tripled quarter-on-quarter. Last quarter, it doubled. So it's pretty monster -- the second way to monetize this is very peculiar because now our apps are agent force cells, agent for service, all of them are agentic.
So now the ROI that companies generate by implementing our apps has increased. So now we have access to new seats that before companies couldn't afford to roll out sales force or any of our apps. And the third way is for customer facing agent use cases, agents, we sell thrill the credits, flex credits. And companies, if you look at the bookings of agent force in Q4, 50% were credits, flex credits, fuel and 50% were higher SKUs.
If you look at the top 12 deals, which, by the way, record Robin and Marc, we've never done more than 10 deals above $10 million in the quarter. This was our best Q4 ever our best quarter ever. We did 12 deals, about $10 million. One of them about 50%, 3 of them are about 20%. When we look at those, and if you look at the 3 ways to monetize, 6 out of the top 10 deals basically were upgrades of the existing SKUs. Seven out of the top 10 deals, we added 6 and 5 of the top 10 deals included credits for agentic use cases, customer-facing use cases.
Three of them included everything. But the beautiful thing is in every study that we heard today that was very incredible these 3 customer stories. I have a bunch of stories that I wanted to tell you, but we're running out of time here. In every one of these stories, we are monetizing AI through these 3 different angles. And we are seeing it in the bookings. We are seeing it in the pipeline. I'm very confident about Q1. I mean, something happened in Q4 that was muster. I mean, Marc said a target to me and to my team, I need to see bookings starting with a number, and we deliver above the number that was incredible. I'm looking at the pipeline, double-digit growth in pipeline. I'm looking at my capacity. -- we've hired over time.
We started last year 12 months ago with 0% growth in ramped AEs. These areas that are ready to sell. It takes our as a year or so to sell to be prepared. We are starting this fiscal year with 15% to 17% more growth in ramped as -- that's Dynamite. We have double-digit growth in pipeline. I'm very confident about the net EUV growth significantly outpacing AUV growth. And ILS have been a big part of this. This is the #1 product that we sell now. We sold 120-plus ILS in Q4. I thought we're going to do between 50 and 100, we did 120. In the top 10 deals, we sold 8 ELAs in the top 10 deals. These are customers that are going all in and commit and commit long term to our -- to the future and there are outsized deals.
Your last question will come from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.
I'll get a quick one. if your cross-sell or the token upsell is working so well, you said 60% of the bookings came from that one. it's kind of almost getting the message out to more customers quicker. You now have 29,000 customers. How do you think about that evolution from kind of getting new customers and getting these guys up and productive this year? How do you think about the the role there and what are the roadblocks?
Yes, Raimo. Good to see you again. Listen, we did 29,000 agent force transactions. We have approximately 22,000, 23,000 customers. But you said it very well. our role, the role of my team, the role of my executive, the role of all the -- as is to be in front of customers to explain these stories and the value that we can drive. I mean today, yesterday or today, I don't know when, there was a wall in Australia, we had 12,000 Yes. today, right? 12,000 customers.
It's actually tomorrow, but it's today.
It's Australian. I don't know, whatever 12,000 customers showed up -- it's happened. It's already happened, by the way, and I think we just need to -- the key message that we are conveying to our customers is we are, SaaS is more important than ever. In the world all this is -- I mean, we are so happy that this row intelligence exist, but to convert row intelligence into reliable, accurate scalable enterprise work, you need a solar infrastructure like the 1 that Marc described with our 4 layers system of context, the system of work, this is our big differentiator.
Nobody has 40% market share in sales and service. I'm sorry. In the customer domain, we are the systems of work. We have the system of agency, very sophisticated. Some companies are building it, whatever, but we have the best because we are proven in 4,000 production customers, 23,000 total customers. Nobody has that at the scale and the complexity because our agents are connected to the data connected able to trigger actions and then we have the system engagement, which is Slack.
I mean the demo of this entropic is incredible. It started in Slack. Then what did they do? They took it out to another UI, which is awful, by the way. But it's -- I mean, it wasn't really as nice as lag, but they did all the work, incredible work. Again, we are so lucky that this company exists. And then they copy paste it. they did that, right? They copy paste it and they put it back on Slack. Okay. Today, you can do that with Slack boat. You don't have to get out and in, and we have a great partnership with Anthroopic. But anyway, Raimo, we are very excited.
Patrick, I think you should come in here and talk about this.
Yes. I mean everybody right now, everybody through the past few years has been so enamored with the model, of course, it's this brand new thing, this intelligence layer that we never had but also the data. But what's really happening around us is the apps are changing. -- the UI is changing, as Miguel is alluding to. And that's really what we're seeing because these old apps of these point-and-click buttons, those were designed for human beings to interact with. But what happens when you have human beings and agents in the same place. right?
Suddenly, a lot of those interactions, those UI paradigms kind of get thrown away. You don't need all of this complex UI anymore. And that's what makes Slacks powerful, and I think that's what Anthropic knows. I think that's what we saw in their demos yesterday. -- right? You kind of like process the work. But ultimately, it's coming -- that work is getting done because some person or some agent is asking for it, and then you need to give it back to that person or that agent. And where do you do that? You do that in Slack. And that's what makes Slack bot so unbelievably powerful is you never have to leave.
And of course, it's powered by Claude. We love our partners of entropic but it knows all of the context of your business, not just the context of your systems of records as we think about it, but all of the conversations happening inside of Slack and has access to all of that and the knowledge that it gains from that truly unmatched. It might be our most important piece of data that we have.
And so when you put all that together into this brand-new user interface, that's really where we see this big transformation in SaaS happening. It's that the apps are going to -- they're going to change, and they're going to just turn into this environment where humans and agents are really working together.
And I think to add to that, if you think about customer success, right, we're really doubling down, as we said, on FTEs. And I think they're the folks that are on the ground with our selling teams, our solution selling teams to ultimately make this vision a reality. And I think that's the key component to converting it from ALS to ultimately consuming. That's what we want to continue to see happening as that consumption will continuing to fly.
Well, great. And we want to thank everyone for joining us today and look forward to seeing you soon.
Bye, everybody. Thanks so much.
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Salesforce — Q4 2026 Earnings Call
Salesforce — Q4 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz (FY‑26): $41,5 Mrd. (+10% YoY; +9% konstant). Q4: $11,2 Mrd. (+12% YoY; +10% konstant).
- CRPO: $35,1 Mrd. (Current Remaining Performance Obligation) +16% YoY; Q1‑CRPO‑Guidance ~14% YoY.
- Total RPO: $72 Mrd. (Remaining Performance Obligation) +14% YoY.
- Agentic/Data ARR: $2,9 Mrd. (Annual Recurring Revenue; Agent force + Data 360 inkl. Informatica) +200% YoY.
- Kapitalrückfluss: >$14 Mrd. Free Cash Flow zurückgeführt (~99% FCF); Buyback‑Autorisierung erhöht auf $50 Mrd.; Dividende auf $0,44/Quartal.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Agentic‑Strategie: Fokus auf die «Agentic enterprise» – Kombination aus Apps, Daten, Slack und AI‑Agenten (Agent force) als zentraler Wachstumshebel; hohe Nachfrage und Großabschlüsse.
- Monetarisierung: Drei Hebel: Premium‑SKUs (Seat‑Upgrades), Credits/Flex‑Credits für kundenseitige Agenten und ELA (Enterprise License Agreements) / Consumption‑Modelle zur Skalierung.
- Integrationen & Kapital: Informatica als Datenbasis betont; Kapitalallokation priorisiert Buybacks und Dividende, M&A bleibt selektiv möglich.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑27: Revenue guidance $45,8–46,2 Mrd. (≈+10–11% YoY); Subscription & Support ~11% YoY.
- Q1: Umsatz $11,03–11,08 Mrd. (≈+12–13% Nom.; +10–11% konstant). CRPO‑Wachstum Q1 ~14% YoY.
- Langfristziel: FY‑30 Zielrev. $63 Mrd. (≈11% CAGR FY‑26→FY‑30); Management bestätigt Rahmen und Reaccelerations‑Pfad H2 FY‑27.
- Margen & Kapital: Non‑GAAP oper. Marge 34,3% (+20 bp); GAAP OM 20,9% (+80 bp). Dividende erhöht; Buyback‑Autor. $50 Mrd.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Skalierbarkeit: Kernfrage war, ob Agent force‑Wachstum das gesamte Portfolio mitziehen kann. Management betont Cross‑sell, Seat‑Upgrades und AOV‑Momentum, bleibt aber bei langfristigen Konversionsraten zurückhaltend.
- AWU & Token‑Economics: AWU (Agentic Work Unit) neu als Nutzungsmetrik; Nachfrage nach Monetarisierung und Token‑Kosten. Management: AWU hilft zu messen, kurzfristig wirken Token‑Kosten neutral, langfristig Effizienz‑ und Produktoptimierungen erwartet.
- Kapitalallokation & Partner: Frage zu $50 Mrd. Buyback vs. M&A; Antwort: Buybacks wegen Bewertungsfenster, aber selektive Akquisitionen und enge Partnerschaften (z. B. Anthropic) bleiben Teil der Strategie.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starkes FY‑26 mit klarer Wachstumserzählung rund um Agent force und Data‑360; Guidance und FY‑30‑Ziel bestätigt. Buyback erhöht Kapitalrückfluss, während AWU‑Metrik und Token‑Economics kurz‑ bis mittelfristig weiter beobachtet werden müssen. Langfristiges Upside unter Annahme erfolgreicher Monetarisierung.
Salesforce — 44th Annual J.P. Morgan Healthcare Conference
1. Question Answer
Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the 2026 JPMorgan Healthcare Conference. As a reminder, following the presentation, there will be time for Q&A. Please make sure to wait for the microphone to come to you before asking your question. We're thrilled to have with us today Mark Sullivan, President of Salesforce. I'll hand it over to you to get your presentation started.
Thank you. Thanks, everybody, for being here. It's such a thrill to be at this conference again this year. It's also great to see the room sort of double in size for who's attending and what's going on at Salesforce. I was fascinated to check into my hotel. It has a very Dreamforce vibe in San Francisco this week. This conference just continues to get bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's been wonderful meeting with all of you this week, and we're only on day 2. So pace yourselves, 3 more days to go.
I'm excited to talk to you today about all the things that we're doing in health and life sciences at Salesforce. And it's been an extraordinary journey for the last couple of years, but in particular, even the last 12 months since I stood here in front of you last year. Last year, we were talking about agents and the impact of agents in technology in this industry. I think this year, we're talking about becoming true Agentic enterprises and taking advantage of that technology in ways that, frankly, we couldn't have even dreamed up last year or the year before.
And so we've made a lot of investments. We've made some huge commitments in this industry, and I'm going to walk you through that today and then give you an opportunity to ask some questions to understand where we are and what we're doing, but we're very proud of what we've done over the last year, we've been busy beasts, and I think you'll see that. Some forward-looking statements. I'll let you read this backwards before we get started. I may make some comments about our performance and our financials and our products and the future of those products. But obviously, those aren't commitments. So keep that in mind as we kind of move forward.
My name is Mark Sullivan. I work for the Mark with a C, I'm known as Mark with the K at Salesforce. There's a couple of Marks in Salesforce, but I'm responsible for our regulated industries, which is health and life sciences, along with financial services, which is a meaningful part of our company. And as we've gotten deeper and deeper into industries, which I'll talk about that briefly here today, the importance of industry depth and commitment into the industries that we serve, the 2 biggest industries that we serve are health, life sciences and financial services, so HLS and financial services. So this is important to us and the investments.
I'm going to start with a big thank you, which we always do. Thank you if you're a Salesforce customer. We serve so many in this industry. Thank you for being here today. Thank you to all the trailblazers and agent blazers and the people in our support community at Salesforce, which is vast. We've come really far over the last 26 years. And you'll feel like I'm reintroducing you to Salesforce today. You may have some perceptions of what Salesforce is. Everybody has grown up understanding we're #1 in CRM and all those good things, and that's great, and we still are. But we're really transforming as a company, and we're getting deeper and more focused into the industries that we serve. And at the top of that list is life sciences. So you'll hear about that today.
We do talk about doing well and doing good. We've guided for FY '30 up to $60 billion, and that's obviously impressive. The growth of that means a lot to us, and we wouldn't get there without our customers and our network and our partners and all the people that support us and all the companies that support us -- it's been an incredible journey. Our FY '26 guidance at $41.5 billion is also something we're very, very proud of. This company continues to grow at a very aggressive pace. It's just very different how we're growing today, what we're selling and how we're serving our customers.
And while that's great, the financial numbers are always important, and there's something we always want to put an emphasis on, I think we're even more proud of some of the awards we get about innovation, about philanthropy, about being an ethical company. It matters to us. And we started 26 years ago trying to bring easy technology to the enterprise in a trusted way. And that sounded like a crazy thing to do. Let's bring your customer data into the cloud. That sounded a little drunk and disorderly 26 years ago. Now it's all there, right? And it's actually more safe than it's ever been.
And as we get deeper into the industries that we're serving and as we enter into this agentic revolution, that safety and that trust is maybe more important than it's ever been. So we take that pretty seriously. And when we try to walk into your organizations and talk about the implications on AI and how you're going to use that, we want to do that in a way that's trusted, safe, auditable and the like so that you can get the most value from it in a way that you feel comfortable with at the end of the day.
Our industry-specific innovation is our DNA. We've -- we started the company 26 years ago, but for the last 20 years, we've really dove head first into industries. And it's shaped who we are as a company. It shapes who we hire. We now hire people that have lifelong legacies in the industries that we serve. That's different from generic technology wizards. We've always been able to hire those people, and that's great. But it's critical for us and maybe more critical now than ever before as we look at what happens in an agentic world to commit to these industries, to get deep into these industries, to understand the workflow of these industries and the criticality of that so that we can reshape it for this new AI revolution.
And so we're very committed. We have 13 industry clouds, but that's not really the story. It's really about transforming the industries that we serve and being committed and deploying our capital into specific industries for the impact that we would like to have. But -- we couldn't be more all in. I've grown up in industry, not as a pure technician, and that's allowed me to understand the language of the industries that we serve and to create value in the manner with which you would like to see it, not just a better technology solution.
If you look at what we're doing in health care and life sciences specifically, we are all in. Our boats have been burned. We couldn't be more excited about what's happening. This is very substantial for us. This is a $4.7 billion ARR business at Salesforce, which we think is simply extraordinary, and it continues to outgrow our industry businesses outgrow the rest of Salesforce. and we'll continue to do so in my opinion. And as we get into this Agentic revolution, you'll see that growth, I believe, accelerating into the industries that we serve.
And so we're very blessed to be working with 6 of the top 10 pharmaceutical companies in this space, which we think is very important. We also believe that the top 10 themselves is sort of a disproportionate amount of the industry, as you all probably know. So it's very important to win the top of that stack and to shape our future and our road map for all of our products working with those companies intimately to make sure we understand where they're going.
We're not interested necessarily in competing with other apps like what app does a competitor have and what app do we have? We would like to transform this industry. We think technology is in a place right now where this is revolutionary. And I use that word very intentionally so. It will change how we all work in a very meaningful way. The analogy I've used repeatedly is if you showed up at work tomorrow and you didn't know how to use a laptop and you had no idea how to use a cell phone, you'd be pretty compromised. I don't think you'd do so well, right? If you show up at work pretty soon and you don't understand how to harness AI in a safe way, it's going to be as if you showed up without your cell phone. You better know what you're doing and you better know how to do it in a really safe way, and we couldn't be more committed to that transformational moment in this industry because we think it's purposeful. We think it's impactful to the industry. And we think it's just a monumental opportunity unlike any other opportunity that we, frankly, have ever seen.
So we expect to continue to grow. We expect to be shaped by these top customers, and we expect to continue to win. I know it's a competitive thing, and you hear about our competition all the time. We're not focused on that really. We're focused on what we can do within the industry and how we can transform this industry. If you look at where we are, we've been very focused on commercial and the growth that we've had in life sciences, but we really want to emphasize the entirety of the supply chain. We want to understand how drugs are found, how they're manufactured, how they're distributed. We want to make sure that every aspect of this is changed. We think we can go faster. We think we can be more efficient. We can get higher levels of adoption. We can get through trials more successfully. We can serve members and customers more effectively. There's so much that can be done that frankly could not have been done in prior eras where we didn't have this opportunity to use agentic AI.
So understanding how to harness this and do that in a safe way on a trusted, integrated, fully integrated platform means everything to us. We're going to increment along this. We don't have every single piece of this done, but we're going to be shaped by the top customers in this industry so that we do this in a way that's very compelling and we get through all aspects of this entire supply chain to have a massive impact that we think will translate into not only a benefit for the companies, but a societal benefit. It's very purposeful for us and purposeful for our employees and purposeful for everyone that works at Salesforce because we think there's an incredible opportunity to change health care, period, not just have better tech. but to change health care. And we think that's an incredible responsibility and opportunity.
If you look at where we are, there's new ways of working, reducing admin time, unifying teams, simplifying experiences, accelerating your account-based orchestration and market impact. We're just seeing everything be changed. Everything is changing. And so it's up to us and the imagination that we deploy to figure out how we want to do this, right? There's -- the technology is something always that we've gone to. You log on to your app, figure out what's deterministic in that app. Now there's nondeterministic reasonable agents that can reason and take action for you. We think that has to reset how you think about this industry. We think that has to reset how you think about technology. And bluntly, in this industry, you might not be the best technicians in the world. There's a lot of chemists, there's a lot of doctors. You're in the business of saving lives, which is critical. We want you to focus on that. We want to make sure that we're thoughtful about how you handle the technology and how you handle this unique once-in-a-lifetime innovation wave that you have to take advantage of or you're going to fall behind.
We promised we sort of delivered. There's a lot of things I talked to you about last year that were hopes and dreams about what we're going to develop and how we're going to develop them and the capabilities that we're going to bring to bear within this industry. There is a list. I know there's a lot of words on this page, but these things are all GA today. Our product catalog, our data integration, medical, search, admin, developer, all these things are available from Salesforce out of the box using our deeply integrated platform and the agentic capabilities that we bring to bear. So this slide gets thicker and bigger, and there's a lot behind all of this, but this is all already right now. And our customers are using this right now. And of course, transitioning from something to something new might be perceived as difficult or more expensive. We disagree. We haven't had any customers leave us. They're all coming in, and we think these projects are going very, very well, and they're shaping us as a company and shaping how we execute in the marketplace. So there's a lot here and there's simply more coming.
How does this work? Why choose Salesforce when there's other alternatives? And you'll see a slide later, but I want you to think of a couple of layers in a deeply unified platform that are very important to us. Number one is the data layer. You have to be thoughtful about how you manage your data and making sure that you have the right data available to fuel those agents in the marketplace. So we bring to you Informatica, we bring our Data 360, we bring MuleSoft. All of that helps you optimize your data layer. On top of that, you have our application layer that's been available for 26 years. In there, you have a lot of the workflow and deterministic code that's leverageable to fuel your agentic future. And what you find in a nondeterministic world is anyone can build an agent on top of a data store, but there needs to be some rules. Just an agent on top of a data store is probably as good as the most irresponsible intern. You might have some challenges with their accuracy, how they make decisions, what they do, how they learn, building an agent in a trusted, deeply unified platform like this can avoid that and put you in a much better situation.
On top of that, you, of course, have an agentic layer at Salesforce, where you can build agents, you can design them, you can test them, you can work with them. You can also build hero agents that orchestrate other agents, whether they're Salesforce agents or not. These, in essence, are your digital employees. You need to know what they're doing, how they're doing it and orchestrate even agents that come from other brands. We will all live in a multi-branded agent economy, and we need to understand how to orchestrate that for safety and trust to make sure we have highly accurate, dependable outcomes from those agents. They should be your best employee, not your most irresponsible intern.
And then lastly, on top of that, we have an experience layer. We'll show up where you work. Even if that's in ChatGPT, whether that's in mobile, wherever you are, whatever application you're working in, your agent will be there. Your agent will be guiding you to make better decisions and we'll take actions rather than just generate outcomes for you. So we think this platform is very important. We're not suggesting it's the only platform. You've got to do everything agentic on Salesforce. I don't think that's a practical answer, but we do think it can be the center of your agentic future and it can orchestrate everything you do from an Agentic perspective. So we think that's very important. And people are choosing us for that, not because we have every feature that a competitor might have, but because we have those features and we're taking you to an agentic future. That's the difference. And understanding that this is a moment in time that is revolutionary from an agentic perspective. If you don't think that way and you just want to place an application with an application, Salesforce probably isn't for you. That's not what we're looking to do. We'd like to transform the industry using the technologies that are available, and that's what we've been doing since we started the company for 26 years.
If you look at it, it's not easy, but it's essential. Sometimes you might say that's a harder choice. maybe it was a harder choice when we all went online with our stores and maybe it was a harder choice when Amazon stopped selling only books, those are harder choices. I see it as that choice. I see it as that moment, like you've got to decide, do you want to take advantage of this new technology or not? There's been a lot of investment in AI that hasn't been fruitful that has been experimental, but I see that shifting and people understanding how to harness this now knows what it is. When we sat here a year ago, I'm not sure everybody understood this very well. Just the basic computer science of it, didn't understand it very well. There's been a lot of money spent. There's been a lot of experimentation. We've seen the good, the bad and the ugly associated with that, and we think we have an answer that's very compelling, safe and trusted to drive some meaningful change in this industry.
If you look at this, we have some customers that are showing up and doing this with us and helping us design -- so Fresenius and reimagining their health care experiences, how do reps show up to health care providers, changing how they show up, what they can do, how they can sell, how they can engage, how they can serve. Imagine showing up and having an agent army with you. They can keep you deeply informed about your customer and their needs and helping execute against what you're hearing. So we're designing that with them. We're very proud of it. They've got 4 disparate business units that we're going to bring together. They'll all operate on one platform now. So that takes a lot of confusion out of their business, makes it very clean and clear on how they operate and lets them show up very differently for their customers. And so we're really excited about that.
Look at AstraZeneca. They're using us too, to transform their whole customer engagement on a global basis. They're pretty big. They have a lot of impact in this industry. And so leveraging them on how they drive service, how they transform that customer engagement is everything to us. These customers are design partners for us. They're shaping our future. You could say this is custom. We're doing it all custom for them. That's absolute nonsense. We're doing this on our platform with all the out-of-the-box agents that I showed you, and we're building more agents for them with them to change the topography of this entire ecosystem. So we're very excited about that.
And lastly, CVS Health, massive opportunity on how they serve their customers. All that they've done with Aetna and all their growth and their commitment into this industry is fantastic. It's one of our largest customers now at Salesforce and taking them into the future on how they change, how they serve their customers, what they do and manage some disconnected systems in a way that is very compelling. So this is just some examples. There are many more.
If you look at this, our ambitions, again, are not just deal by deal. It's really to win on a much grander scale. We think that this industry needs it. There are labor shortages in this industry. There's brittle technology in this industry. It is time to kind of clean out the garage and fix the technology structure of this industry bluntly. It needs it more than ever. And we think this is a solution to some of those meaningful problems that this industry has faced for years that you couldn't overcome or couldn't find the capital to invest in. And so this creates that moment in time. Is that easier than just staying on the application that you have? Probably not. But do you want to differentiate? Do you want to lead from the front? Do you want to transform the industry, then that's who we want to work with, right? If you're just looking for a different application, there's probably somebody across the hall that can help you. That's not what we're trying to do, and we don't think about it that way.
Lastly, and I talked about this a little bit, sort of a top-down on the model that I talked about earlier, but we really do think data matters at the top, just a unified AI-ready data foundation. That sounds so easy. We all know it's not. Everybody has different data architecture investments that they've made historically. You all have different gravitational data stores, leveraging that data is regulated and you have to manage that in a compliant way. We understand that. We have an incredible zero copy ecosystem where we can tap into most of your data architecture. If you spent a lot of money on data architecture and you're trying to get value from that and unlock the value, we think we can help you do that in a way that we've never been able to do in the past. And so those investments should be leverageable and helpful for you, not something that you're depreciating or they're impacting your bottom line in a negative way. So we think we're in a great position to help you.
The unified application layer, we still think we are #1 in CRM. -- period and not because we say so, because it's straight up true. And we think the applications that we have are continuing to be leverageable. -- a lot of languages SaaS dead and the Agentic world is going to take over. There's still a lot to be said for the deterministic code, the workflow, what sits in those applications that has been built for 26 years and how that data can fuel your Agentic future. We think that's important. We think that's meaningful. We think that creates greater accuracy, greater outcomes for the agents that you're using.
And the unified experience layer, whether it's marketing or service or sales, whatever you're trying to do, understanding how to engage and where to engage with your customers, whether it's on a laptop, whether it's on a mobile device, whether it's on a computer, whether it's face-to-face, be in a better place. And so we just think that there are a few companies that can connect all of this in a cohesive, trusted way. We think we have a unique advantage in that regard. There are lots of companies that can build agents if you give them a data store and something to build an agent on, not in a way that's auditable, trustworthy, compliant, understands the regulatory environment and creates outcomes that are measurable and manageable for your industry. So we think that's unique, and we think that's very compelling, and that's why we're investing a lot of our capital in this.
We have over 200 plus, this grows every single day, agents and actions within each industry. And so as we work with our customers and develop agents, there's use case by use case where people are discovering new ways to deploy agents and leverage them within their businesses. What we've learned is there's a journey to that -- there's a sequence to that. There are some use cases that have higher value because they might be easier with a higher ROI immediately. There's other use cases that might be more complicated with the data architecture that you're leveraging might take longer. Maybe they have a big impact, but they might be more complicated. So understanding the sequence of those use cases and starting out of the box, if you start with -- we have use cases, we have agents that do that and you're not starting from scratch and you're working with us as a partner with tested compelling agents that have been leveraged by others, you're kind of starting on second base to a certain degree in our opinion. So that increases your speed to value and puts you in a much, much better situation. So it leverages your data investments. It leverages your SaaS investments, and it puts you in an accelerated path to value that we think is critically important because we are in a hurry in this industry.
As I mentioned before, too, there's what we refer to sometimes as hero agents. agents that might be focused on post clinical or regulatory or medical affairs or in the commercial space, they can do a lot of things, whether it's contract development, marketing campaigns and the like. These hero agents have to orchestrate the Agentic workforce. They have to understand how to interact with other agents, whether it's MCP or AA, whatever the technology is, we have that capability, and we can leverage that so that we make sure that we orchestrate your entire Agentic ecosystem and the Agentic architecture that you're working with. As agents continue to be constructed and deployed and used in this industry, you'll have more and more and more, you'll have many brands. You better understand how to register them, orchestrate them, manage them, understand the work that they're doing, the jobs to be done, understand how they're interacting with your human capital workforce so that it's safe, so it's protected. You don't want the most irresponsible intern running up and down your hallways, unregistered, making decisions and taking actions. You'd like to have that under control. You'd like to know where the prompt came from. You'd like to know what the outcome was, who generated the prompt, what was meaningful about that. And you probably would like to show that to your regulatory oversight or to any compliance policy that you have. We put you in a position where you can do that. We think these hero agents are very important because as the agent sprawl continues, you're going to have to orchestrate your agent army, if you will, for the betterment of your organizations.
So we talk about that. We call that agent fabric. It's part of what we do in that data layer that I discussed. And so that will show you how -- where are your agents today? What are they working on? What are the jobs to be done? How are they executing? How are they interacting with your human workforce as well. So you should be able to see that. You should be able to report on that. You should know what everyone is doing at any moment in time, make sure that they're all compliant. And if they have issues with following policy or any compliance issues, it could come back to you. Let's redirect that back to humans. So there's humans in the loop in everything that we do. We're not trying to replace every member of the workforce here. We're trying to make everybody monumentally better. We're trying to free up your time to focus on strategic issues that matter, which, by the way, is what you guys are good at, saving lives, developing solutions to help people. That's what we want to put you in a position to do, not managing your technology platform, right? We'd like to do that for you so you can focus on the things that you do best.
So we've done a few things from an acquisitive standpoint where we've bought some companies, and it's sometimes you wonder what the heck are they buying and why are they buying that? And how does it fit in? And it's not as clear. We're not doing this just to create new revenue sources for us by brand. But as you think about our Agentic future, there's things that we've acquired that I'm sure many of you have already read about that I've listed on this page, and they're very important to us because it helps us orchestrate your Agentic ecosystem and make sure that you can do what you need to do.
So if you look at Informatica, just an incredible company that we recently acquired, the MDM capabilities, understanding where the data is, the privacy and quality of that. It's not yesterday's Informatica. We all know that as an ETL organization. There's so much more they do for us that's helpful to understand where your data is. Look at Doti, what information exists, your search capabilities. So think about searching through your agents, understanding structured and unstructured data, finding that to be leverageable to arm your agents to be able to make better actions and decisions. Look at Spindle and A Primor, am I making the right decisions? Are we scenario modeling these agents? Do we test them? We give them case studies to work on just like you might a new employee? How do we model this through, so you're confident that you're getting what you need at the level of accuracy that you need it. Then you look at Regrello, how do we manage workflow generation and process automation. If I think about that entire supply chain in life sciences, Ragrela can look across all of that and say, look, what are the workflows, what are the issues? Where can we take advantage of opportunities. So this all fits together from our perspective, you see it one at a time reported in the news. But for us, these are the building blocks to our deeply unified platform that help you make better decisions as you work with your agentic architecture. So we think that's super critical.
Lastly, and I mentioned this, it's not just about the technology and the brands that we're working with. It's really about elevating all of you. What do you want to do? Do you want to manage your tech platform all day? Or do you want to help people, right? Do you want to help people get better? Do you want to focus on the strategic issues within this industry? We think we can provide you with a dozen professional chiefs of staff, if you will, to make your life a lot easier, to make you execute a lot better using our agentic architecture in a trusted and impactful way. This is your new cell phone. Like I said before, you're going to need it. you need to understand it. You need to be moving towards an agentic future. Your company needs to be an agentic enterprise. If not, it's going to be comparable to when company is on the Internet and you're not. It's that serious in our opinion. It's that impactful to some of the tech cycles that we've seen before. So we think this means everything if you have a plan, great. If you want to do that in a trusted way, we think we're in a great position to help you.
I mentioned also that just the industry sort of needs it. Look at this and just look at the structural barriers to agility within the industry. These are the things that kind of hold you guys back in my opinion, just your budget, your team structures, the skill shortages. There's a lot of chemists and doctors in this industry that don't know much about technology. That's problematic. There's a lack of tech strategy. Projects remain in pilot, they get stuck. There's a lot of starts and stops in this industry that are inefficient and slow you down. We've got to be better than that. We would like to show up as your partner and be vastly better than that. We try to solve these specific problems so that you can react, whether it's tariffs or other macro issues, regulatory changes, whatever you need to address, acquisitions, new trials, you've got to go faster. We all need to go faster and you have an opportunity to do that to get through some of these land mines and address your challenges around competition, margin pressure, all the revenue threats that we're all facing. This is a challenging industry. It's very competitive. It's going to get more competitive because those that understand how to leverage this technology will take advantage of it.
So there's more coming. You'll see more from us and more announcements. You'll see regulated content management coming quickly as we get into H2 of next year, and there's a lot of things. We've got quite a road map on what we're developing and how we're developing it for the industry. It's a long list. We will continue on that journey. That will never stop. for 26 years, all the products that we've offered had a constant refresh road map. We've done 3 releases a year for everything we brought to the market. This will be similar, if not faster, because of the commitments that we've made to the industry. And we're working with our customers. I mentioned 6 of the top 10 that are shaping the value that they believe that they should be driving in this industry. So that's influencing us every day on what we do and how we do it. And you'll see more around those commitments as we grow our investment in health care and life sciences, not just in commercial, but across the entirety of that value chain. So we're working through it. We need your input, your company's input. We need your guidance as to what matters and what doesn't. This is a highly prioritized approach. It can't be done all at once, but it can be done, and we want to go faster, and we are going faster.
So we're -- you can read the slide, we're radically simplifying treatment, accelerating clinical innovation and orchestrating healthier experiences, one unified Agentic platform. That's what's different. This isn't just another app alternative for you. This is an Agentic platform that comes with all the capabilities of an application as well that will transform your company, and we believe transform the industry. So we're very excited about that. We're going to see around the corner. It's great being here at JPMorgan Chase. There's more coming. I'll be in Davos. I don't know why they do this every year. We're going to put on boots and go sit in a snowbank, talk to each other. Someday, we'll do that in the Caribbean. But we'll be in Davos next week. You'll see Scope in Orlando in February, HIS in Vegas in March and then Becker in Chicago and many more. You'll see our world tours and other things. We will continue to drop our innovation and alert you to that. So pay attention. hop on the website, take a look at what's happening, look at what's happening in these events. We'll have lots of announcements as we go through all of these. You'll hear a lot more from us to understand where we're going. My goal is for all of you to understand where we're going. and how fast we're moving and to leverage your input to help us go faster to have a bigger impact. But we're really excited. Thank you all sincerely for being here. I'll open it up for questions. I've got a couple of colleagues, Kirst and Joe, that are happy to come up. These 2 rock stars sort of run our life sciences practice at Salesforce, so we can answer any detailed questions that you might have. But thank you all for your time. It's nice to see this room kind of packed. Last year, I think we had half the room, and I don't think it was full, but nice to see everybody here. So any questions, I'll open it up.
Thank you, Mark. And as a reminder, please wait for the microphone to come to you. Just raise your hand if you'd like to ask a question.
That's incredible. We have a question over here.
We got one right over here. Right in the middle, second row.
Mark. You talked about the criticism essentially that your work for large pharma is highly customized. Could you explain where that criticism comes from and why it's nonsense?
I only hear it from a competitor. I certainly don't hear it within Salesforce. And we don't -- we're not in the customization business. We're not building this on the fly. We show up with the platform that I just showed you. We show up with the application layer that I just showed you. All the data products that I offered are out of the box and ready to go. And the out-of-the-box agentic capabilities are improving every single day. So there's always work to be done, like the world has underestimated what it takes to tune an agent. And depending on the data quality or the architecture of the customer that we're working in and the type of use case and agent that they're working on, there might be some complexity that we've got to iterate our way through. That's true no matter who you're working with. There's no shortcut to that is my message to everybody. And that can be perceived as you're overcustomized. I disagree. I think that's just normal agentic tuning based on the architecture that exists there. And sometimes that might slow us down. But frankly, we believe we're starting on second base. We think with all these out-of-the-box capabilities, we're way ahead. And if we have to tune an agent for a little while, if that's perceived as customized or complex, then I think that's a misrepresentation of what we're doing with our customers and how we're operating there.
I think one other question just to add there is, I think in the past, a lot of companies in health care and life sciences used us and they had to build a lot on their own. They wanted to create their own out-of-the-box workflows or those types of things, and that was where the Agentic platform becomes really interesting because you can build competitive advantage if you want to there, right? I think we have one of the most brilliant tech minds in life sciences, Joe, who has also helped us radically transform what the definition of CRM is in the future, right? And so the way that we've built our mobile application, the way that we have deeply embedded Agentic capabilities at every layer that Mark went through, that is where you have the opportunity to take that out of the box, which is what we recommend. But you also have a lot of opportunity to configure -- let's not use the word customization anymore, to configure that so that you can meet your needs and to be more flexible across the industry and all the business processes that you're creating.
Can you talk a little bit about your work with health systems and the challenges you faced in end-to-end patient journeys and Agentic AI, what you learned, how you brought it back into the product? And how does that -- you mentioned you have a very large relationship with Aetna that's working very well. Can you kind of contrast...
Yes, absolutely. So I think in -- when it comes to health systems, obviously, there's a ton of challenges that's facing them right now. My husband is a medical oncologist at Sloan Kettering. So I know firsthand what he's experiencing on a daily basis, especially as they just went through their EMR transformation, right? So when it comes to health plans, I think number one is we're looking at helping how to close revenue gaps for them or revenue leakage in the form of patient experience, right? There's a lot of breakage right now of patients not coming to appointments, not being able to reschedule appointments and every single one of those is a revenue opportunity for the hospital. So we're looking at that first and foremost. Obviously, we have a lot of challenges as many other technology vendors in the industry do with getting to certain types of data buried in different types of EMR. But we are working really, really hard, particularly with hospitals like Ascension, where they're using athena, which we have a deep partnership around to really radically think about what that opportunity is and how do we think differently about that full end-to-end process. Also with partners like Viz.ai, they have a ton of those partnerships where they're doing clinical pathways, whether it's at the departmental level, whether it's at the therapeutic level, whether it's at the disease state level. And we're working with them just like we always have at Salesforce with our ecosystem of partners in order to radically transform care pathways and to have backwards compatibility between their end systems where the clinicians are working, health cloud or life sciences cloud, right? As it comes to our partnership with Aetna and CVS and what it looks like across all of our payers, quite frankly, a lot of the work that we're doing there really starts with that data foundation. Let's be honest. There's a lot of fragmented data that exists across payers, across our entire ecosystem. And so as we start to think about that, as we start to see the transformational capabilities that data has in terms of knowing kind of where a member is, who a member is, whether they're calling through the call center, whether they're working with a care coordinator, for example, we're really working at that level so that now we have an entirely different ecosystem conversation around the patient that didn't exist in the past.
Yes. I want to double-click on something she mentioned as well. I think something that some folks tend to oversee or overlook is the fact that we're already the market leader on the health side, right? So we are the market leader in patient support programs. I think we run something like 85% or 90% of the patient support programs in the world on our Agentforce Health platform. And so what we're doing with life sciences is we're sort of locking in the other side of the equation, right? We can't solve the problems that we just talked about without the provider side, without the engagement side on the life sciences side of the equation. And so what we see is a significant number of opportunities here for us to take our customers that are operating on the health side of our business and actually integrate them with customers that are operating on the life sciences side of our business. And we believe we're the only technology platform in the world that can do this.
We think there's a societal impact, too. I mean finding care providers is more difficult than ever, and we think this can solve that problem. And then we think any experience that you have with any procedure you might have, the prep, the post, the follow-up, we all depend on our spouses to do those things. And that's not necessarily the right way to do it. Why -- think of the old medicine where your doctor might call you before, make sure you did all the things that you need to do before your procedure and might follow up after to make sure you took the right medicine and didn't find your way back to the emergency room. We think agents can do that. And we think we can do that better than anything that's ever been rendered before. And we think that keeps people out of the emergency room. We think that changes the health care economy in a meaningful way.
Great. I think we have time for one more question right here.
Just a question about how you're designing for kind of the new commercial model of pharma, particularly there's a very different data ecosystem outside of the U.S. where you're not being able to do the same targeting and the privacy rules. If you're building fresh, how are you building fresh in places like Europe and Japan for this? And second, with the rise of off-label prescriptions being the majority in things like oncology, how are you incorporating the other teams, especially as sales teams are very much limiting their ability to actually operate in those markets?
Yes. I'll throw it to the team. But I mean, we have a massive commercial footprint globally. We've done thousands of transactions in this space with Life Sciences Cloud in many countries accordingly. And so it's not just -- we talk about the 6 of the top 10, which is great because I think that's sort of a great poster material and helps with our competitors. But there's thousands of transactions and thousands of customers that are smaller than those 6 out of the top 10 that have unique therapies, unique drugs, unique situations that are in unique regulatory environments, and we're addressing all of those globally. One of the biggest challenges we've had as a company is this is moving so quickly that rolling this out to our distribution army. We have a massive distribution army at Salesforce. And so one of the things that we've done here is we run our Life Sciences business as a global entity. So we've got 15 different operating units in Salesforce and the one that runs globally is life sciences. So we can account for all the unique aspects and regulatory situations that we see around the world and the nuance of all those smaller players that you're referring to.
I'll just address the data side of your question. So Data 360, formerly known as Data Cloud is actually part of the secret sauce of how we're winning in the market globally. This is a mature product. It's been GA for several years now. And we're seeing -- to address your question directly around sort of the different sets of data, the different types of data that we see in different markets from U.K. to Germany to the U.S., certain access to certain types of data. We are building sort of an agnostic canonical layer within Life Sciences Cloud that allows customers depending on the market that they're in, to bring in the data sets that are the best for their therapeutic area, for their market. And for us, we're actually setting up a data partnership program to be able to facilitate that federation of that data into Data 360. So they don't have to actually physically move that data, but our application is sort of agnostic to that. And we can start to allow our customers to configure access to certain types of data depending on their regulatory domain.
Wonderful. That's all the time we have today. Thank you so much.
Thank you all for being here. Really appreciate it.
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Salesforce — 44th Annual J.P. Morgan Healthcare Conference
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce positioniert sich als zentrale "Agentic" Plattform für Health & Life Sciences und betont Tiefe in Branche, Sicherheit und Orchestrierung von KI-Agenten statt bloßer Punktlösungen.
- Skalierung: Health & Life Sciences seien ein $4,7 Mrd. ARR-Geschäft und wachsen schneller als der Rest des Unternehmens.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Plattform-Stack: Fokus auf vier Schichten: AI‑ready Data (Informatica, Data 360, MuleSoft), Anwendungsschicht (CRM/Workflow), Agenten‑Layer (Build/Test/Orchestrate) und Experience‑Layer (Einbettung dort, wo Nutzer arbeiten).
- Agent‑Orchestrierung: Konzept von "Hero Agents" und "Agent Fabric" zur Registrierung, Überwachung und Auditierbarkeit multi‑branded Agenten; >200 Agenten/Aktionen bereits verfügbar.
- Go‑to‑Market: Enge Design‑Partnerschaften mit großen Kunden (z. B. Fresenius, AstraZeneca, CVS/Aetna) statt Fokus auf reine App‑Vergleiche; betont Out‑of‑the‑box‑Startpunkte mit anschließender Konfiguration.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Produkte: Management sagt, viele Agentic‑Funktionen und Produktkatalog seien "GA" (generally available) und im Kundenbetrieb.
- Roadmap: angekündigtes "regulated content management" für H2 2027 (als konkrete Zeitangabe aus der Präsentation).
- Akquisitionen: Informatica wird als Schlüssel für Master‑Data/Privacy genannt; weitere Zukäufe (Data/Search/Test/Workflow‑Tools) als Bausteine für die Plattformintegration.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Customization‑Vorwurf: Management wies Kritik zurück; spricht von Out‑of‑the‑box‑Capabilities, räumt aber ein, dass Agent‑Tuning je nach Kunden‑Datenarchitektur nötig ist.
- Health‑Systems: Diskussion über EMR‑Integration, Partner (z. B. athena, Viz.ai) und Gebrauch zur Verringerung von Revenue‑Leakage/Patient‑Breakage.
- Globaler Rollout: Frage zu Politik/Privacy in Europa/Japan; Antwort: Data 360 als kanonische, marktagnostische Schicht und globaler Life‑Sciences‑Operating‑Unit zur Anpassung an lokale Regularien.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Relevanz: Klarer strategischer Schwenk: Salesforce investiert massiv, um im HLS‑Sektor als orchestrierende Agentic‑Plattform Marktanteile zu gewinnen. Technische Integration, regulatorische Compliance und Kunden‑Rollout bleiben zentrale Execution‑Risiken; erfolgreiche Adoption bei Top‑Kunden wäre jedoch ein starker Moat‑Treiber.
Salesforce — Barclays 23rd Annual Global Technology Conference
1. Question Answer
Thank you for joining us for our next session. Really happy to have Miguel Milano on here from Salesforce. The -- initially before we talk about the World Cup soccer like a German, [indiscernible], but maybe we kind of don't go there. We do it afterwards.
It hurts. Still hurt?
It still hurt from the euro, but anyway. But let's start more bigger picture to get everyone grounded, you reported like very good results last week from like since you're running sales, like, what's it out from your perspective?
Yes. So thank you, by the way, thank you for the opportunity to be here. Hello, everyone. This is exciting. So we printed really a very strong quarter all around. Q3 was the best Q3 ever in the history of the company. That's good -- good start. It was also the -- in terms of bookings, it was the fastest-growing booking quarter in 3.5 years. I think the Q1 fiscal year '23 was a bit better. Bookings grew even more than the CRPO numbers that we printed.
The other thing that was pretty cool was the -- I mean this is a metric that now the whole company is focused on is net new AOV like net new ARR. And this is the difference between the bookings minus the attrition. That piece grew significantly, significantly much more than the growth of the ARR. And this is key. And we -- I think we started talking for the first time at the Investors Day at Dreamforce. This is key because when net new AUV grows more than AOV, the AUV accelerate. And I know that everybody here on streaming, what they're thinking is, okay, great quarter, Miguel, amazing, but when is one of the core revenue is going to reaccelerate? Well, this is -- we explained it at Analyst Day, it's going to take 12 to 18 months, now probably 11 to 17, but now we are even more confident after the results, but also the momentum that we're seeing with Agentforce, a bunch of starts. We'll talk about the Agentforce later, I'm sure. And then the demand, this is because a quarter is a quarter. In Europe it's a [Foreign Language] [indiscernible]. Good game. We've had a sequence of pretty good quarters, better and better all the time. But for me, it's more all about the next wave of growth. The next 5 years, we gave some very cool guidance, I believe, in the Analyst Day that without Informatica, we're going to hit $60 billion in fiscal year '30, Rule of 50. And we are becoming more and more confident that, that is going to happen because the demand is like we've never seen before. Our [indiscernible] gens are like we've never seen before, and dem gen that we did in Q3 was spectacular.
And I mean, obviously, Agentforce is like the big topic that everyone -- that is important to you guys. I was at Dreamforce, and it was amazing to see the momentum there. But what are you seeing in terms of Agentforce in the field? What's the feedback?
Well, so Agentforce, it's pretty crazy. I mean, I've been in sales for many years. Actually, I was an engineer before it was a consultant and then I've been in sales for 20-plus years. I joined Salesforce in 2011. I never seen anything like that. We launched a product a bit more than a year ago. We just published $550 million of ARR on the product. That's 4.5x growth year-on-year. We did 1,900 transactions on Agentforce. We have already 18,000 customers that have bought Agentforce or that have used an Agentforce. Half of them are paying, so 9,500 are paying.
Just to put things in context, everybody is talking about agents. Everybody is talking about agentic, there is no other company in the planet that has the amount of customers trying our agents like Agentforce, like Salesforce. This is pretty cool. But there was a very important statistic that I want to highlight because in the Q1 earnings call, I was super excited because I found out that 3 Agentforce customers came back and wanted to refill the tank -- the consumption flywheel. And I was very excited, and I talked in the earnings call about these 3 customers, and my God, this is working. Well, in Q3, 50% of the bookings, more than 53% of the bookings came from customers refilling the tank. And we had 362 customers. refilling the tank. The stacks are amazing, but I think what is more fun, and this is going to be -- when you sell stuff, you want to sell something that is a lot of fun. And there are a number of household names that everybody in the world is going to start getting familiar with, for instance, [indiscernible]. Anybody knows with [indiscernible] is? You will. Gema is the personal shopper for Pandora, okay?
They just launched that personal shopper. It's the same experience that you have at a store, but online, but guess what, they picked a country. Australia is a big country of them. They just put 10% of the traffic at the beginning. Now they're putting 50% of the traffic. Now Gema does 1 million customer actions every month. But meet [indiscernible] or me what, I like this, mid-Olive, [indiscernible] Williams Sonoma, what rebound. William Sonoma has several agents already working with customers at scale. The one that they call Sous Chef. It' [indiscernible]. It helps you really work through the dietary and your culinary experience and getting you an expert and then branches you out to buy all the staff, et cetera. That's already handling nearly what was in last time, it was like 80,000 actions every week, so 300,000 actions.
But all these agents, we put them in production weeks ago, months ago, the acceleration that we are seeing, many of these companies are coming back to refill the tank. Okay, I want more conversations, I want more credit. It's very exciting. And the last thing is it's not about Agentforce. Agentforce -- it's not only about Agentforce. Agentforce is amplifying its making every 1 of our Salesforce cloud much better. It's driving multi-cloud transformational deals. If I look at my top 10 deals, 6 of them -- 7 of them contain data cloud and Agentforce or agent force, 6 of them contain Agentforce. I mean Agentforce was just 15% of it of the whole TCV of those deals of the -- it just drives all because all our clouds now are agentic cloud. Sales Cloud is Agentforce sales. There is no concept of sales process without identifying that sales process.
There is not a sense of service cloud or customer service without being agentic, commerce the same thing, et cetera. So a very exciting quarter for Agentforce.
And the -- what is the momentum -- like Dreamforce was obviously like -- well, for me, it was more -- there was more hands on. You could see I could touch the -- like the year before Dreamforce, you launched it. It's early stage here. Now I could see them, I could touch them, I can play with it. What has been like the momentum in terms of pipeline conversations in Dreamforce.
I think, again, it's very surprising even for experienced sales executives like me and my team to see a product have so much impact in a short time. I think the one thing that both myself and Robin, our Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer, disclosed, we made 2 big disclosures, honestly, and 2 big statements in our Analyst Day. One was that the net UV growth line had already crossed the AUV growth line, and that was going to remain for a while. And that hadn't happened for 2.5 years, and that's going to accelerate revenue. And then we said 12 to 18 months. That was a pretty big statement.
The second big statement that we did -- I'm sorry, I'm elevating the answer that I go exactly to what you were asking. The other thing that we -- she had a slide, and it's good that the slide came from the CFO and not from the Chief Revenue Officer, where she says, we are seeing that customers that become everybody wants to become agentic enterprise and identify all the processes.
The customers that pick Salesforce as the platform to become the agentic enterprise, and we'll discuss later why most of our customers, if not all, are going to peak Salesforce. They use our product in a totally different way as a digital labor platform, not as a SaaS CRM platform, but as a digital labor platform. And when you use our product in such a way, our ability to monetize that relationship, and this is if you're eating, you need to stop it in because this is important. This is the ability to monetize the partnership to 4x the business that we are doing. We have a lot of customers that have great profitable, growing relationship with us for years with all our cloud sales, service, marketing, commerce, analytics global. When they become Agentic, this has happened in the last 12 months. They had data cloud because they need data cloud to power the agent. They put Agentforce. They start building up a list of agents that they're going to deploy. The business that we do with them multiply it by 3 or by 4. And we believe that most of our customers are going to go through that journey. So this is truly impactful because I know that many of you in your model, you're looking at your terminal value. Obviously, you see the numbers, you see the cash flows.
Marc mentioned, we do more cash flow nearly than Walmart. This year, we increased actually the guidance, I think, from 13% to 14% growth. I think we're going to do about short of $15 billion of cash flow, not bad, and we're going to continue to grow that. And you can do the math for the next 5, 3 years and you discount whatever, but then is a terminal value, which I think is in debate here.
Is there a future for SaaS? What is going to happen to Salesforce, and I'd love to talk more about that, but I do believe that the terminal value is humongous. And when I tell you that every single 1 of our 200,000 customers, most of them will choose Salesforce as the platform to become agentic. So this is a different market. It's not the platform to do SaaS CRM. That most of them already chose us. This is like a new market. It's like Infinite, it's trillion of TAM. And most customers, most of the Salesforce customers will get to the conclusion that they absolutely need to use Salesforce to become an agentic enterprise. And when they do times 3, times 4. Remember that.
And on that note, like, what makes the Salesforce position so strong like the competitive advantage that they do it with you and not with someone else.
Yes. So this is the heart of the matter, okay? I'm going to pause -- I'm going to breathe. Yes, yes. old -- this is so important. I just had a great meeting with actually Barclays at our offices. But I -- what I do is I spend all the time with customers. Last quarter, I was in 12 countries, I made 400 customers. So this is the crack of the matter. This is a question that everybody asks. So let me tell you 1 thing that is very important. LLMs, AI is incredible. It's the biggest transformation in our lifetimes. I couldn't believe -- I mean, I'm 57. I kind of believe that this is happening to me now because to be in this in this balcony looking at the market and seeing this incredible transformation that AI is bringing is unbelievable. It's hitting all of us. Consumers is revolutionizing. I'm every day. I'm with Grok, I am with with Gemini, I'm with OpenAI. It's incredible. However, to bring AI to the enterprise for AI to scale in the enterprise, there is something significantly more important. AI just becomes a utility. It becomes a commodity. You need the last mile. Let me plan with the last mile is -- the last mile has 4 complaints. The first 1 is the trusted context. Is the data of those customers, or those transactions of those assets and the meta data.
The data tells you what happened. The metadata tells you why what happened matters. That drastic context is fundamental in the enterprise for the AI to make any sense. Otherwise, the AI does make sense. Can we solve this with assets force Potentially, but Salesforce has a lot of that data already in the context with the right countries with the right metadata model.
Second leg of the last mile. And this is -- for me, this is the investment thesis for a SaaS company like FORCE for that have a dominance in a space like we do, okay? The second element of the last mile is execution, deterministic execution. Trust me, you don't want LLM to execute. I think we've seen it because if we let an LLM to execute, they will execute differently even with the same data in different times. There is a reason why for years, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 years, companies codify their standard operating procedures into applications.
Then the application becomes SaaS applications. In the customer domain, I mean I was with you guys today with ankle said, I don't want to disclose, but companies that at have thousands of automation that have already been built on our platform, 1000. And then every month, those automations are run billions of times, okay, across. You don't want LLM to be executing without those automation. Third leg of this tool. You know what, there's some people here that it's called humans AI cannot function without humans. You cannot build AI in a place that is disconnected for humans. You cannot build AI in a place that is connected from the execution, but you need humans in the loop. So we, at Salesforce, we are the leader in the CRM. So we have more humans, hundreds of millions of humans already using our apps every day, executing on those determinist workflows. And the last piece of the last mile for AI to scale and to work in the enterprise is the governance. It's the compliance without governance, without compliance, you cannot scale AI. CIOs need to make sure that those agents have secure access to the right applications to the right data that things are sharing the right way, that the privacy is respected that the agents are orchestrated, that's covered on that compliance Tell me how any of the foundational LLM are going to do the last mile, none of them. Salesforce, companies like Salesforce, and we are very well positioned in our space, we're going to become the hat for agentic execution you would not be able to execute the incredible things that AI brings in the enterprise with -- at sales force.
So it sounds really exciting from a product perspective. Now -- and I don't want to speak for my IT buyers, but like how about by this? Like in terms of -- talk a little bit about pricing packaging, is there like an ELA kind of type stuff to kind of make sure I control.
You're not negotiating on behalf.
No, no, no.
So now listen, this is a good one because everybody is getting very confused. We got a little bit confused to be honest with you when we launch all these products. We have data cloud data activation called Data 360, the more data you ingest, the more data you 0 copy and you activate the more you pay -- and you don't really know how to predict that or project that. Then we brought agents and then depending on the use case, depending on the conversations, how many actions per conversation, how many [indiscernible] calls. It becomes really messy. And I feel that for my customers because even we don't know how much the customers are going to pay if they go all in with Salesforce. And that's not a good position to you're selling.
So what we did is, okay, let's open up, let's listen. We do a lot of workshops with customers, and we pretty much open a menu of options, pricing options to our customers, to meet our customers where they are. There are customers that want something that is probably the hottest thing right now in Salesforce, which is AELS, Agentic Enterprise License Agreement. What is this? This is for customers that have already experimented -- they're ready to scale. They already know the last-mile differentiation of Salesforce, what I just explained. They know that they cannot scale AI without sales force. And then they say, okay, they want to go all in, but they don't want to be in a situation where in 3 or 4 years, they have to pay $100 million to set force because we're doing all this.
So we agree on a flat fee and then it's a share risk. -- all you can eat -- by the way, we can throw also other products, all you can eat a enforce data cloud, slag anything that you need for the period of the next 3 or 5 years at a fee that makes sense. And if the customer is smart, they can rub the bank. They can really make a great deal out of that. We take the risk because we want our customers to be successful. There's nothing that I would love the most, that have a customer that a price may be a la at $5 million incremental, and the customer has deployed so much that all of a sudden, that deal is not profitable for me because if that is not profitable for me, it means that the customer is the happiest customer in the world.
And then I have another 20 years to monetize that customer. So I'm not worried about that. So that this is the extreme. The other extreme is we do pay as you go. If you want to experiment without paying anything and only pay when you get value, pay as you go. And then every month, we send your build with the usage that you've done and you pay me, but most customers most customers like pre-commit.
This is the Amazon model at the AWS model, where essentially GCP, you say, okay, I think I'm going to spend $3 million next year, $5 million the following year, $7 million and I will be telling you as I consume. There are, again, many -- and you know what, 1 thing that is becoming very popular because customers want predictability and flexibility, predictability and [indiscernible] gives you predictability. But you know what other thing gives you predictability, seat-based SKUs.
So we've created SKUs that have a lot of consumption built in, in fact, unlimited consumption for internal usage, we call them our super SKUs, again for sales force for service or AE and customers pay a premium to get the SKU, but it's a fixed is per seat and they don't have to worry about using more or less. So the net-net is we are meeting customers where they are. And if you have other ideas, we are here to do businesses open, and we can come up with our ideas to feed your specific needs.
Yes. Okay. So we talk product, we talk pricing. Let's talk about distribution. One of the things that came up a lot as a discussion is that you kind of talked about increasing sales capacity and quite a decent -- a quite a decent clip. What drove that confidence? And I had 1 follow-up there in terms of sales force productivity that's kind of related to that.
So as of today, we have 23% more capacity, account executives industry today, which is a lot.
That's a lot.
We're going to finish the year with approximately 20% more capacity. Now we don't -- we measure ramped capacity because capacity the first 6 to 8 months and times even 12 months doesn't produce because in enterprise software, there's a lot of learning enabled, et cetera. which, by the way, we are super focused and we are bringing those time lines even closer from higher to monetization of we we've already shortened 3 or 4 months, okay? But at the end of the day -- at the end of the year, we're going to finish that are around.
Today, we are at 13%, 14% more ramp capacity. We're going to finish the year around 15% more ramp capacity coming into next year, which are great numbers. I'm actually I mean this is sometimes why Mark, it's Mark 1.5 years ago, he called me. He said, "Miguel, let's go in, let's go full-fledged, let's hire 20% of capacity." I'm like there is no need." My productive levels are very good, but I don't see the demand. There is a lot of AI. There is a lot of experimentation. There is no big -- Miguel, we are launching Agentforce. this is going revolutionize the industry, go f****** higher, 20% more capacity.
Then we went all in, in starting in October last year, November an got that we did that because -- now the demand, we have a tsunami of demand coming at us, and we have the capacity ready to meet that demand. I'm also confident about the numbers for the year, the net growth acceleration, et cetera, because it's not just about the capacity. It's about the pipeline. I mean those 2 things are hardcode thing coding. We have more people that are hungry, waking up every morning saying, I need to make my quota and I'm going to go kill. And then we have healthy single-digit -- double-digit very healthy growth in pipeline for next year, good combination.
And then we have a lot of innovation that -- I mean, when you think about the amount of products, think about Voice. We just launched voice. Every single one of our customers, Agentforce customesr, 18,000 are going to want voice. Voice is an uplift to the contract that they have with us. Let me take go to another extreme, Life Science Cloud. Anybody knows of a company called [indiscernible], okay? By the way, before we started competing with Viva. Before we were partners with Viva, we love Peter and Diva, they've been great partners. Before we competed with them, we were at the same site of [indiscernible]. We were selling around the commercial area, but service, marketing, analytics, et cetera. We pretty much have the same number of employees in the same number of business of revenue with in the life science and medical device space as Viva. Then they decided to move to compete with that. They call us, okay, you know what, we don't want the partnership, you guys are to tenures, we're going to move off of your platform and I really, okay? So then we're going to compete.
So we went in, we bought some assets, some IP. We built a product called Life Science Cloud, which was the missing part that we had needed for the commercial part of the pharmaceutical company. And we already announced Pfizer. We already announced Novartis the day. We did a press release on AstraZeneca, Takeda. Of the top 20, we've already won officially 5 or 6. We're going to win probably another 2 or 3.
And then we won more than 100-plus of the top probably 200 frac well already has switched off from Viva and came to to sell for. So I'm sorry for the company that is solely focused on 1 thing because we are winning market share like huge from them, and we are just getting started. Customers want the platform. That's why they weren't happy with that because they were on the Salesforce platform. They see how Salesforce is becoming an agentic platform. Analytics is embedded in the platform. Data 360 brings all the data from all the areas of from clinical to pharma to care to everything. And it's a big piece of innovation. We launched ITSM. We launched an orchestration omni supervise. I mean there's so much innovation. When you couple the innovation with the real pipeline that we have with and then the momentum that we're seeing. So we are very confident. In fact, we're going to continue this free of hiring in the next 2 months.
And like remember, we are the investors and we're looking at a number. The 1 thing that I kept as a question a lot from -- when I discussed it with investors is like, how do we ensure productivity because you're not going through kind of at least saying we're growing 20% here again, but you you keep hiring it. How do you make sure that the productivity is right for you and that you get actually the right outcome?
So I focus on -- there are 3 key metrics that I focus on like crazy. It was 2, now it's 3. The 2 that I focus was net AUV and making sure that any was growing and is growing more than AOV because that means acceleration okay? The second metric is productivity. I'll go through that in a second, and the thematic now is consumption. Consumption of of data clouds, consumption of Agentforce. Now productivity. Before we started the hiring spree 1.5 years ago, we reached pretty much the top level of productivity. In my 2 prior years, we increased productivity by 20%. So we were ready. We thought -- we knew that we couldn't get significantly more productivity, so we needed to hire more people. So we are -- first of all, we are hiring people in high productive -- high productivity patches. This is very important and high patches. Second, we are managing performance.
I mean that's what I've done in my career, managed performance good so people want to work in my teams because they know that poor salespeople don't last. And the worst thing that you can be -- the worst thing that you can be is being a company, if you're a good salesperson where they don't manage performance. So good sales people want to be in a place where they manage performance because they make a lot of money and the low performers leave. Third is we're selling higher end additions of our cloud. There is a trend called vendor consolidation. People want to buy an SKU, a super SKU that has included consumption, has included Tableau speak for compensation, has Slack, those make basically, the average sales price much higher. There's many of the reasons why productivity is going to continue to be -- even despite the amount of capacity we're putting, is going to be continue to grow. The last one is -- this is very important. I told you about the customer refilling the tank and the fact that 50% of the bookings in Data Cloud and Agentforce in Q3 was 40% in Q2 came from customers refilling the tank. We started this year -- we started this year with 4,000 more or less Agentforce customers, okay? Those have generated a lot of ACV this year to us because they came and refill the tank.
Next year, you know how many Agentforce customers we're going to have at the end of the year?
18?
No [indiscernible], so today, we have 18,000. By the end of Q4, we're going to have probably closer to 30,000, at least 25,000. So we're going to start the year with pretty much 10x more agent force installed base. than a year before. And the reason this is important is because the sales cycles of customers filling the tank are low -- low investment sale cycle there short. So that increases the productivity of the [indiscernible] Anyway, there are many ways to increase productivity base.
Yes, yes, yes. I could continue with you for quite a long time, but I know that at the next speaker is coming up here. Miguel that was really insightful and the excitement is physical. Yes, I can see it. It's great to have you here, and good luck, and I'm looking forward to you next year and see the how does that all translate into numbers.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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Salesforce — Barclays 23rd Annual Global Technology Conference
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce sieht Agentforce als zentralen Wachstumstreiber: Q3 war das "best-ever" bei Buchungen, Net‑New‑ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) wächst deutlich schneller als Attrition, und das Management erwartet eine Umsatz‑Re‑Beschleunigung binnen etwa 11–17 Monaten. Ziel: $60 Mrd. im Geschäftsjahr 2030 (ohne Informatica).
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Agentforce: $550 Mio. ARR, 4,5x YoY; 18.000 Kunden, davon ~9.500 zahlend; 1.900 Transaktionen; mehr als 53% der Q3‑Bookings kamen von "refills" (362 Kunden).
- Multi‑Cloud: Agentforce treibt große Transformationsdeals — Data Cloud plus Agentforce in vielen Top‑Deals; Agentforce soll Sales, Service, Commerce multi‑cloud‑Upsell forcieren.
- Preisgestaltung: Neue Optionen: Agentic Enterprise License Agreement (AELA), Pay‑as‑you‑go, und sitzbasierte "Super‑SKUs" mit inkludierter Consumption für Planbarkeit.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Timing: Management erhöht das Vertrauen, dass Net‑New‑ARR‑Wachstum die Umsatzbeschleunigung in ~11–17 Monaten anschiebt (vorher 12–18 Monate).
- Cashflow: Guidance wurde intern nach oben revidiert (angenommen von ~13% auf ~14% Wachstum); Management nennt etwa $15 Mrd. operativen Cashflow für das laufende Jahr.
- Installbase: Agentforce‑Basis soll bis Ende Q4 auf ~25.000–30.000 Kunden steigen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Adoption: Analysten hinterfragten Field‑Momentum und ob "refills" wiederkehrend sind — Management zeigte hohe Rücklaufquoten und kurze Sales‑Zyklen bei Refills.
- Pricing‑Risiko: Nachfrage nach Vorhersehbarkeit; Diskussion über AELA vs. Verbrauchsmodell und wie Salesforce die Preis‑Komplexität adressiert.
- Vertrieb & Produktivität: Frage zur Effizienz nach starker Einstellungsoffensive (heute +23% Kapazität; Ziel ~20% für das Jahr) und wie Ramp‑Zeiten die Produktivität beeinflussen.
- Wettbewerb/LLMs: Kritische Nachfrage zur "Last‑Mile"‑Überlegenheit gegenüber generischen LLMs — Management betont Datenkontext, deterministische Workflows, Human‑in‑the‑loop und Governance als Differenzierer.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starkes Produktmomentum (Agentforce) bestätigt Management‑These: AI‑getriebene Multi‑Cloud‑Upsells können Umsatz und Customer LTV deutlich erhöhen. Positiv für Wachstumstrend und langfristige Bewertung, aber Risiken bleiben bei Consumption‑Pricing, Execution beim Ramp‑up der Vertriebsorganisation und der Konvertierung großer Pipeline in nachhaltige Umsätze.
Salesforce — Raymond James TMT & Consumer Conference
1. Question Answer
Good morning, everyone. My name is Brian Peterson. I'm one of the application software analyst here at Raymond James. Very happy to have Susan Emerson with us from Salesforce. We're going to host a fireside chat. If there's any questions from the audience, feel free to make this interactive.
But Susan, maybe to kick things off, there's been a lot of product and go-to-market investments at Salesforce over the last few years. Maybe talk about your role in those efforts, and where you've been spending most of your time?
All right. Well, good morning. I'm Susan Emerson. I'm based here in New York, and I've been with Salesforce for 15 years. And for the last 3 years, I've been on the gen AI and agentic sprint as part of the AI product team that's now known as Agentforce. And it's such a fast-moving and new space that one of the things that we do very consciously at Salesforce is make sure we've got, I don't know, trail guides to use like Salesforce terminology to help all our employees and customers unpack what we're building. So I'm essentially running an outbound product team, a team of data scientists, technical architects that are equally comfortable in the boardroom as they are facing off with an AI wizard. So we invest in customer success and help people understand our road map, figure out what they should do for themselves and in what order and why.
So it's been a busy couple of years. So I know a lot of us were at Dreamforce, hearing more about Agentforce. I know it comes up on earnings calls. But as you think about the latest in Agentforce, kind of where are we with some of the key product announcements there?
Yes. So we're just wrapping up Dreamforce, and now are all world tours around the world. And the big things that we announced at Dreamforce for Agentforce are the following. So I'll just sort of list them and talk about, of all the things I could list, why I list these because I think they're impactful to customers. One is we went GA with voice. And so for our customer-facing AI, voice might be a generational channel for many people, but it's a really important channel so that we have that now in the ecosystem is great. But what I would say, I almost want to deemphasize it a little bit because one of the powerful things that we have is being really channel independent. You can build an agent once and you can decide that this thing is going to one of your employees or this is going on a voice channel or this is going on WhatsApp or this is going on SMS and so forth and so on.
So voice was one. And so that will help organizations where voice is sort of nonnegotiable as a channel. The second thing is the -- something that we're just calling hybrid reasoning. And over the last year, anyone who's been building agents has had to become a de facto prompt engineering wizard and like dial into all the little fancy tricks that you use to try to tame an LLM into submission to do things 100% of the way you want to do them 100% of the time, which is not always 100% possible. So I'll leave that like 100% thing behind. But what we did is we opened up our reasoning engine to something that is now both probabilistic with LLMs, orchestrating and creating an AI plan with determinism.
So organizations now have this freedom to say, if then else do it this way and then have a reasoning engine do all the really creative parts. So that really opens up a lot of use cases and also control and also sort of diminishes in a nice way the skill set needed to build these things, like you don't have to be on the cutting edge of red teaming crazy prompt engineering. You can just build these things a lot more effectively. And I can give lots of examples. The one I often use in a generic setting is the following. Like let's say you build -- you've got a customer-facing autonomous agent and -- but you also have humans in your contact center, and you know that there are scenarios where people are going to want the human, or you desire to put the human in the loop.
There's like many businesses where the human is a positive thing. It's not always go to the lowest cost channel mindset. So let's say that contact center isn't 24/7, or has different operating hours from a 24/7 digital labor chatbot. The first thing you want to do is you want to load up what the operating hours are of that contact center because at the end of that chat session, if you're going to pass it to someone, you want to know if you're passing it to a contact center or you're passing it to a case management system that's going to queue it up. That's a great example of determinism, look up the hours, if this, then that.
And then there's many other examples where it's not just in the user experience, but it's in the control function, like withdrawal of money, first look at blank, blank, blank before you determine if you're going to go do this. If you're prequalifying something for an event, first look up these things, blah, blah, blah. So that hybrid reasoning is going to be really important for every industry. The third thing is some work that we've been doing with, I'll just call them background agents. A lot of organizations are pretty familiar with things like radbots or chatbots answer question with knowledge use cases, I would call them. We do a lot of process, AI process automation. And with background agents, now we put this into a user canvas that is much like a spreadsheet, if you will. So it's got a lot of ease of use to it. I'll just say it that way.
But imagine rather than the AI use case cycle starting with an employee or a customer, but with a data signal and at scale, where we're running these background agents at scale and then pulling humans back into the loop as appropriate. We call that feature grid. And then finally, one of my favorite features is the work that we've been doing with observability. Of course, we've been counting AI activity since we started it, how many conversations, how many users, average daily use, weekly daily use, like the counting of things. The counting of things is material if you're understanding of what you're building is getting adopted, but it doesn't tell you if what you've built is good.
So we've added all these eval models on top of our interactions, so the builders of these AI agents can know if their agents are doing the right thing, agents, meaning their digital agents, not their people agents? Is our reasoning engine finding the right topic to bring into the foreground? Is our AI agent executing the right task? Is it following instructions faithfully? And if we're doing content generation, is it of high quality? So these are just the beginning of the different evals that we have. And so whether you're regulated or nonregulated, you want these things because it's line of sight to is it working, what you should build next, and like do you like what you've done? Those are my highlights. I can go on forever, like you always have to say stop generating.
So actually, that's a good segue actually because I think in the investment community, a lot of folks have kind of wondered as we hear a lot about agents broadly is there kind of a build versus buy decision for a lot of enterprises. So as you think about like all of those things that you highlighted, when you talk to customers on the build versus buy decision, like how has that weighed in? What have you seen? Any help there?
Sure. Build versus buy is always there. And in an inflection point like AI, of course, it's there very, very heavily. And so the conversations that I usually end up having are about, of course, there's build activities happening in every organization. The question is, where should you really go and anchor with the Salesforce products? And how do what we have with Salesforce, how is it not just amazing for the community of users that we have with customer-facing applications or employee-facing applications, but how does that integrate with everything else you've already decided for?
So I think it's more like a question of that. And if you've listened to the earnings call, we're seeing super ample evidence of this as a successful strategy with the number of Agentforce deals going up quite significantly. I think we reported 18,500. People are re-upping the gas tank in terms of the fuel to run these agents, like 50% quarter-over-quarter. The amount of folks going in production, 70% quarter-over-quarter. So we're just seeing tremendous growth. And then I'll tell a story about one of the organizations that I met with last week in Europe about the sort of build versus buy that kind of pulls some of our product capabilities through.
They're a large insurer, and they do -- their entire backbone is Salesforce. They use Salesforce for selling a new customer. They use Salesforce case management for prosecuting every new underwriting activity and every renewal of that activity. It is end-to-end, wall-to-wall Salesforce for the most material part of their business, which is underwriting risk and talking with customers. They see AI as the fuel to take friction out of every bit of the process and the process is Salesforce.
Now on the other hand, they got a bunch of young AI studs who would love to build. But there's not enough time, money in their business model to support that. So I started showing them some of the work that we're doing with our new builder. I mentioned the hybrid reasoning. In addition to the hybrid reasoning, one of the things that we did is we made some user experience changes. So you can be the traditional, like accidental Salesforce admin and drop into something dead simple and build an agent, but you can flip to code and scripting and an agent graft in a beat. And when the Head of the Transformation Department and the head -- the CIO and the Head of Salesforce saw this, they're like, this is it. This is what unlocks it because you're bringing tools that are commensurate with our AI team in conjunction with our business transformation thing, two different canvases on top of the same engine and will allow us to go a whole lot faster without like armies of people doing tool integration for years and years.
Second comment, one of the largest financial institutions that -- one of the large ones that I work with here in the U.S., they said this to us, we do do-it-yourself to learn. We use packaged software to scale. Like there's a lot of learning and like getting your hands dirty with all this stuff. But if you want to do this stuff at scale, you don't want to be responsible for bringing it all together, maintaining it and Salesforce is an obvious choice for them given the operations they run with customers and employees.
So I love that statement. And I guess like maybe I'll bring it back to kind of budgeting and how people are looking at where the investments come from? So are there innings of AI, so to speak? Will people experiment and then they scale with Salesforce? So just as you have these budget conversations with customers, how are those evolving?
Well, I guess the budgets come from everywhere from just the operational budgets that people have to run their business and they look to modernize it or rationalize it and bring more to Salesforce. There's the budgets of transformation. I mean, this is still like 3 years in. I would say, in year 3 of all this AI, it's back to the boardroom again. Like in year 1, it was the boardroom because everyone was like, do I go out of business? What does this mean for my operating model? In year 2, it was like experimentation, learning, piloting. In year 3, again, it's like, okay, we get it. Radbots are cool. How do we do transformation, and transformation budgets are in the office of the CEO.
And then for some organizations, it's interesting like we talk about digital labor. And for many people, the concept is, it's vague until they see it themselves. And so I'll give you an example with one of the customers I work with in the recruitment space. And these guys have been public in different domains. I won't use their name. But at a recent conference, they came running across the room to me. And given my role in working with customers, sometimes I'm getting yelled at. And I was like, "Oh, gosh, he's coming at me in full force. What am I going to get yelled at?" He's like, "Oh my God, it was amazing. Did you see happened?" I'm like, yes, I saw the log files, like you're processing your recruitment pipeline. He's like, yes, it's amazing. And then he went on to say, what's really amazing is that people are looking for jobs after ours, like, yes, of course, they are. They're not interviewing while they're sitting at their desk. And I'm like, that's digital labor. It's 24/7, 365 when your employees are tucked into bed.
And then he went on to say, like we're seeing the opposite of hallucinations, like you know how everyone worries about hallucinations and you plan for it and you build around it. He said, the AI agents are way more responsive to the instructions we give them. In fact, they follow them way better than the humans. And the end result of this is that we have a stronger pipeline of candidates with a higher acceptance rate. I'm like, yes, this is digital labor. And so like people -- like it's sort of one of these things like it's abstract until you see digital labor taking on real workload. I mean our story internally at Salesforce has been the digital labor that we have handling over 80% of our inbound inquiries, which used to be human-led now -- and now that's capacity that is freed up for much more interesting things.
One other topic, I was with a -- I was in a panel last week, and I won't use their name because it was sort of a Chatham House rules thing. They're in the health care space. And they use -- they've been using us since day 1 with everything from answering questions about how to prosecute claims for health care. And what they have done is they've banked a lot of money in the following way. They have reduced the number of people in their call center because they can do a lot more with digital labor. They did it all with natural attrition. No one was fired. And now these people are all earning much higher wages and they're doing more comprehensive things. So whether you use these savings to bank into new things or you're finding new budget because you're a brand company and you have to build an immersive, dynamic, amazing next-gen experience like we haven't found budget an issue, I guess, is what I would say.
For people that have unlocked, that's a great concept of digital labor. What have you seen or like maybe some kind of customer success stories for those that have really embraced that and it's kind of in that year 3 evolution with Salesforce. Like any customer examples you can highlight? And where are they seeing that broadly in terms of their evolution with Agentforce?
Well, I just used 3. Salesforce, I can use our name, and then I used the example of our customer-facing one. I used one of a health care company that now is processing claims and answering questions from members at a much greater scale. And then I used an example of a recruitment company. I'm working with a couple of financial institutions where, just based where they are physically in the world, they have an opportunity to go to adjacent companies -- or countries. And they don't want to do that with human labor. It's too expensive.
So now that they have these different AI agents that do everything from answering questions about products and services, prosecute the KYC and customer onboarding, schedule meetings with bankers, those types of things, they're using this to aggressively expand to new markets in ways they could never see them before that would have required just -- not just human labor. But when you think about -- this is one of the topics we see a lot right now with AI, like the general statement is, with this shift in AI, the cost of intelligence approaches 0 because everyone can be enabled with an AI. So what does that mean by like the types of people you hire in your organization? And Ethan Mollik had a little quote out in LinkedIn about a month ago, "If everyone can market a little, everyone can sell a little, everyone can code a little, what are you hiring? Are you still hiring the person that's built 20 years of experience around a certain domain thing? Are you hiring this jack of all trades?" So in the example of this bank, they're hiring the jack of all trades because these people are doing onboarding, underwriting, selling, marketing. And so that's another example.
Well, sorry, there's someone I could build on with that. But like in terms of pricing, I know that's a debate that a lot of investors are having, like you guys have evolved your pricing model a little bit. Like how do you kind of balance seeing the value that everybody is giving, but also maybe kind of the predictability of wanting to control costs? How have those discussions gone with customers?
I'm always really critical of our pricing, and I'm really happy where we are right now. And I'll just mention like a couple of ways we approach it. It's been a new -- it's a new category, right? And we have been experimenting over the last 3 years about how to do this. And what I like about where we are right now is that we've got choice. And so choice in the following ways. If you have humans in your workforce, for sure, every process is going to be lubricated with AI. So you don't want to be thinking about forecasting it and counting it, you just want to use the stuff in anger. And so for those things, we have the standard per user per month. Our Salesforce buyers [indiscernible] for that and a lot of bundling strategies. So we've taken the friction out of it for employees.
In terms of externally facing ones, if we're doing things that are like the call deflection in the customer -- like the customer ones, call centers are nothing if not measured, and they usually can give you a lot of detail about the types of calls they have and the reasons they are. And so there is operating runway for that. And then we give a variety of ways for people to buy, whether it's pay-as-you-go, pre-commit or prepurchase. So there's a lot of flexibility there. We've landed as the unit of measure not token, token, token, token because what does that mean? Does that solve anything? So we are really basing things around the concept of an action, like did the AI do something and manage a task for you and bring some automation to the foreground.
So that's sort of the unit of measure that -- just to be transparent on that. And then finally, we've been -- this whole idea of we don't want to forecast it, it's hard to measure, it's a new category. But we've chosen new Salesforce and we want to cook. We've got these unlimited Agentforce enterprise license agreements. So I've never been happier where we are, and I'm always calling friction on things I don't like, and I think we're in a good place now.
What about in terms of competition as it relates to AI? I feel like there's going to be a lot of things that are new. I guess, how do you think about competition in a kind of an agentic world?
Well, there's always competition as long as you're in a real market. So there's a lot of competition here. As you know, everything from we little start-ups to hyperscalers. It doesn't matter what industry you're in or what category of anything you're in, you have to have a uniquely differentiated advantage. And the things that Salesforce has going on for it are, we've got the context of everything that is customer-facing. We've got the workflow. We've got the processes that are either like de facto or like material through things like lead to cash, to growing that relationship, through servicing the customer. That's just not simple radbots. These are processes that are automated in a system of record like Salesforce.
So we've got the context. We've got the action. We have -- like a lot of people might kind of throw a marker down and say, data, data is gravity. Data for real is gravity. I mean we did buy Informatica for the ability to unlock a lot of corporate data. But what I would say is almost even more important than the data for grounding things is the openness in the mindset of your architecture. And at Salesforce, with our AI suite, we are open at every level, not because we had to because deliberately, we want to. So we are open to data, whether we're acquiring data via MuleSoft, Informatica, via our Zero Data Copy. We are open to LLM choice, whether we're talking about Gemini, OpenAI or Anthropic. We are open to things like MCP and A2A.
And so if you're a buyer of these things, you don't know what the next corner is going to be. Like no one has the crystal ball of what amazing thing is going to happen in 6 months or 12 months. So you want to be future-proof with openness. And so this openness is a very compelling capability we have. And then finally, back to like the old adage of everything is possible with time, money and code, but you never have infinite amount. We've got all sorts of ways for people to go fast, whether we're talking about the skill set of who's building or the fact that we know the job to be done and the persona across sales, service, marketing, Tableau and about 12 different industry clouds. And we jumpstart these things with out-of-the-box agents that have the context of our data model, have the context of the job to be done, have the actions behind them. And so you can start with these things and go. And because it's an open platform, on day 2, if you change your mind, you fiddle with it until you're...
So maybe talk about it because there's a lot of data cloud stuff, like the importance of data cloud and agentic. And how do people kind of balance what's first? Like do they need to get their data cloud in order and then it's agentic or -- because you're working with customers, I'd love to understand how they're approaching that?
My guidance to customers is always to start and not have data be an excuse. We know we need good data to ground these things for accurate AI. There's always a good enough pilot data somewhere to start with the use case. So we would sort of be hesitant to say, go off and do a 5-year data project because you're going to miss all the benefits of AI in the short term. One of the things that I think has been -- we're really starting to see the market grasp this and is data cloud -- I mean, Data Cloud is a cloud, like it is a CDP pure play for people who are creating their marketing assets where they have to harmonize customer data and market to them.
But Data Cloud and the rest of our infrastructure at Salesforce is an activation substrate. Like we don't need to have the data in our application to advantage it with this thing we call the Zero Data Copy network, where if people have their lovely Snowflake lake or their GCP lake or their Databricks lake, we can leverage that without moving it, without rematerializing it in Salesforce.
And so that message is finally like really starting to take off. And I think in our earnings call, we talked about some of the process. I think it's like 32 trillion like records in Data Cloud. Over half of that is with the Zero Data Copy stuff. So I'm very happy that we renamed it to the Data 360 because as soon as you say Data Cloud, it suggests we want your data in our cloud. And yes, we can do that, but we also think it's more strategic to be this activation substrate.
So as we think about Data 360 then, what has Informatica recently closed? What does that bring you in terms of like the comprehensiveness of that portfolio?
Corporate data, MDA, lineage, cataloging, like it just opens up the aperture of all the ways we can ground this AI and activate it into customer and marketing and selling processes, supply chain as well.
Okay. And maybe just -- it's a little bit different from the technical side, but I know Hyperforce has been a key investment for you guys. How can you talk about some of the benefits of that? Where are you in those efforts? And is that potentially unlocking cross-sell?
I mean we've been on the Hyperforce journey for like a decade now at this point. So like I kind of personally just take it for granted that we have infrastructure in region where it needs to be. Like to be honest to me, I don't even see that anymore because it's just an assumed benefit of, of course, we have a data center in country X, Y, Z. But we're also moving to GCP, which will be really exciting for organizations that have Google as part of their infrastructure.
And so I think one of the key narratives over the last few quarters has been some of the sales and marketing investments that you guys have been making in terms of capacity. Can you talk about where are you putting that and maybe some of the benefits in terms of growth that we should expect?
Yes. What I would say is like when people are asking me about AI, it's usually like what's in the road map? What's going on? But like AI has transformed Salesforce in every aspect, whether it's pricing and packaging, whether it's the way we deploy our human capital, whether it's selling human capital or these things we call forward deployed engineers, it's been a big shift for us. And Marc sees this capacity that we need all the time. So we've been making very strategic decisions around capacity investments. And where we -- what we've been doing most recently on that to take advantage of the growth that we see is increased capacity in AI and data sellers, increased capacity in the SMB channel, increased capacity in life science with our new cloud there.
And then secondly, I mentioned these forward deployed engineers. This is a new category of software. And just because people have certificates they can go get and training and enablement programs they can go, like the investment that we were making to help people like learn, adopt and implement has been really quite significant as well with these forward deployed engineers.
And maybe just kind of lastly here, the $60 billion target you laid out, like where do you guys see kind of the biggest incremental opportunity to expand with customers or to add net new customers?
It's just like never been a more exciting time. I was in a conference in Oslo last week, and I was listening to our country leader talk about the types of proposals that he has been generating with customers. And like he's never seen anything like this in terms of the potential for innovation and growth with this kind of technology. It's way more than contact management and opportunity management for selling and way more than case management for servicing. It's real transformational stuff. And so what -- at the highest level, what I would say, like I see is that this -- the Agentforce -- like Agentforce and Salesforce, it's the same conversation now. There's no Salesforce without AI, and there's like just this flywheel of benefit across the processes and user experiences with Salesforce with AI.
So there's the potential for every process to be automated with AI. There is the potential for one AI use case to generate a whole bunch of other use cases because now, with observability, we see all those utterances. So we see what the people really want and we know what agent to go build next. And then with this flywheel, Salesforce is gifted, blessed with all these different clouds. So it's an opportunity to go multi-cloud. And then with the acquisitions of Informatica, just going even deeper into the operational system. So I just think it's never been more tremendous.
That's great to hear. We'll end it there. Susan, thank you so much for your time.
Thank you.
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Salesforce — Raymond James TMT & Consumer Conference
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Zentrale Aussage: Agentforce ist bei Salesforce mittlerweile kein Experiment mehr, sondern Kernprodukt: GA für Voice, Hybrid Reasoning, Background Agents und Observability sollen schnellere Produktion, weniger Spezialwissen und breitere Skalierung ermöglichen. Offenheit gegenüber LLMs und Daten bleibt strategisch zentral.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Hybrid Reasoning: Kombination aus probabilistischen LLM-Antworten und deterministischen "If-then"-Schritten zur Kontrolle von Workflows und Reduktion von Prompt-Engineering.
- Observability: Neue Evaluationsmodelle messen Agent-Qualität (Aufgabenerfüllung, Instruktionsbefolgung, Content-Qualität) statt nur Aktivitätszähler.
- Go-to-Market & Preis: Flexible Kaufoptionen (pay-as-you-go, Precommit, Unlimited EA); Maßeinheit ist jetzt "Action" statt Tokens; Fokus auf Bundles für Mitarbeiter- und Kundenkanäle.
🔍 Neue Informationen
- Product-Status: GA für Voice, Feature "Feature Grid" für Background Agents (skalierte Datensignale) und Hybrid Reasoning sind konkret verfügbar; Observability-Evals wurden erweitert.
- Adoption: Management nennt ~18.500 Agentforce-Deals, starkes QoQ-Wachstum bei Nutzung und Production-Deployments.
- Data & M&A: Informatica-Integration soll Corporate Data, Lineage und Cataloging stärken; Zero-Data-Copy-Ansatz bleibt Aktivierungspfad.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Build vs. Buy: Kunden lernen selbst (DIY) – aber für Skalierung favorisieren viele die Salesforce-Plattform wegen Integration, Out-of-the-box-Agents und geringerer TCO.
- Budgetphasen: Drei Stufen: Board-Interest → Experimentieren → Transformation/CEO-Budget; Unternehmen verschieben Mittel in Transformation, nicht nur IT-Tests.
- Wettbewerb & Offenheit: Differenzierung über Datenkontext, Workflow-Aktionen, Offenheit für LLMs und Integrationen wird als Verteidigungsmerkmal gegen Start-ups und Hyperscaler dargestellt.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Produktreife (Voice GA, Hybrid Reasoning, Observability) reduziert Implementierungs‑ und Halluzinationsrisiken, stärkt Cross‑/Upsell-Potenzial und macht Agentforce zu einem echten Wachstumstreiber; Pricing-Flexibilität mildert Monetarisierungsrisiken, aber Usage‑Trends bleiben KPIs für Investoren.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Mike Spencer. Today's session is going to be focused on providing an update on our Customer Momentum and Customer Success. As you heard yesterday on the earnings call, we're bringing humans, data and AI and apps together to build the agentic enterprise. And today, you're going to hear an update on how this is translating into accelerating our Customer Momentum and fueling our relentless Customer Success.
I want to add that this is a webinar in the series of webinars we've been doing for the past several quarters with the intention of giving you more visibility and more insight into what's happening with the business.
Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from the looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including in our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements.
And with that, let me introduce our leaders that join me today. Miguel Milano, who's going to start. Obviously, [indiscernible] Miguel Milano, our CRO. And then Srini, sitting next to my left, Srini Tallapragada leads our engineering and customer success organization. I'm super excited prior to handing the floor to them. I'll encourage you to submit your questions online into the chat windows and we'll make sure and try and get to as many questions as we can once Miguel and Srini are done with their opening remarks. And with that, Miguel?
Thank you, Mike. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in today. I wanted to use my time, Mike, if you're okay with it. First of all, trying to summarize at a high level what the quarter looked like. Q3 as far as I'm concerned, a quarter is a quarter, check, amazing, epic, but where we are [ manacle ] focused is on the huge opportunity that is coming ahead. It's in front of us, is the agentic enterprise. And I want to double-click with some slides, if you don't mind, to walk you through how we're thinking about it.
So the quarter Q3 was pretty epic. The reality is it was the best Q3 ever in the history of the company. It was actually the fastest growth that we did in bookings, but also in Net New [ AOV ] since pretty much fiscal year '22. And this is -- obviously, this is the output. This is the result of what is really happening underneath. Very important Net New AOV, which is the purest measure of customer success grew significantly more than the AOV. And as I -- as we shared in Investor Day, [ Robin ] and I, when Net New AOV grows more than AOV, then AOV accelerates and ultimately, revenue accelerates. And this is what we all are obviously very focused on subscription and support revenue to reaccelerate.
So we are very confident. H2, Net New AOV is going to be several points ahead of the AOV growth. And we feel also very comfortable looking at the pipeline, looking at the capacity, looking at the momentum of the business that the Net New AOV growth above several points above the AOV growth is going to continue. So one, you're seeing the CRPO numbers, which were amazing. Well, Net New AOV grew more than that. And bookings for the quarter also grew more than that.
So pretty exciting that the most exciting thing is that the agentic enterprise opportunity is right here. Now it's very real. It's been rambling for the last, I would say, months, we started filling it in the demand in the bookings and the deals during Q2, but Q3 became very real.
So let me explain to you what the agentic enterprise opportunity is. Because we've been -- for 26 years, we've done a pretty good job selling into the CRM SaaS market. We become the leaders in that market. We have 20-plus percent market share. We have more market share that our next four competitors together, it's five competitors together. But in clouds like Sales and service domains like Sales and service, we actually have 40-plus-percent market share. It's pretty unbelievable. But this is a multi-hundred million multi-hundred billion TAM market.
All of a sudden, there is a new market coming at us, which is the agentic enterprise market. We define it as a genetic enterprise, but it's the digital labor market, the agentic market. And this market is probably an order potentially to orders of magnitude bigger than the SaaS market. And we've been invited to participate there. We happen to have the [ super ] infrastructure that is required to be successful in this new opportunity. And every company is knocking at our door saying, we want to become an agentic enterprise.
We've been experimenting for 12, 18 months, particularly the large enterprises that have the resources, they've tried to do it yourself in many different ways. And every single one of them, most of them get to a point that they get restated because for enterprise scale -- for enterprise AI to scale they need the last mile. And the LLM alone doesn't give the last mile. And we can better way, do this slide, the two of us because we see it very clearly. What enterprise I need is you need the context. You need the data, what is happening in the company around your customer, but also the metadata. Why that data is important? Then you need the that is able to do the probabilistic reasoning, not the deterministic reason.
Of course, everybody has AI. We have it embedded in our platform. But then you also need the apps because you want the AI to do a smart decisions based on the data and the metadata, but then you want the AI to trigger some execution, some work close and you want them to be as deterministic as possible because you don't want big corporations to rely on AI, to an agent and LLM to decide how to return a good that was broken to a customer or how to correct a billion that was mistaken. You want that agent to follow the standard operating procedures that the customer has defined that have been qualified in the apps. The apps most of the customer-facing apps happen to be on Salesforce. That's a huge advantage.
And then finally, humans, we all have come to a realization that AI is not replacing humans. AI is augmenting humans and humans with AI, humans with agents are going to deliver new levels of productivity, new level of customer satisfaction. You need them working together on the same workflows on the same platform.
And this is our moat. We bring the last mile. And this is what companies are realizing they've been experimenting. Many of them. I was in a conversation yesterday, somebody said Miguel, I've been talking to some customers of Salesforce that are building the identic layer outside Salesforce. I'm like, yes, there are many of them that try to do it, try to get the data. Because you can do it yourself anything. They get the data out of Salesforce, then they build the logic then they decide that they want to take some actions, but they don't have the capability to execute the thousands of workflows that the customers have already built on Salesforce. So basically, by doing that -- and by the way, the humans are working here, and they built this agentic layer here trying to build a cool interactive conversational UI, but a that is disconnected from the humans and it disconnected from the execution. And is semi disconnect with the data because, one, the moment you move the data out of Salesforce into other data lakes, et cetera. It just becomes obsolete. You can do it that is expensive. So most of these customers have realized that we need -- they need the last mile. And they turn to us and they said, "Let's do it together, let's start the agentic transformation journey.
So if you go to the next slide, what we've done over the last 6 months is train our teams to know what we call the agentic enterprise playbook to know how to capture this opportunity. And then we make them think in five steps.
The first is present an industry point of view because ultimately, the industry point of view is the demand plan, is Mr. Customer, Ms. Customer, we try to go as high as possible because the agentic enterprise is a board decision. It's a C-suite decision. You want to transform, you want to be more conversational. You're going to be more intelligent company, you're going to be more proactive. You want to augment your employees. You want to increase revenues, you want to increase margin, you want to make your customers happier. Okay, you need to become an agentic enterprise. How do you do it? That's how our industry point of view.
I'm going to -- if you go to the next slide, this is what we've done. And this is like an eye chart on purpose because we believe it's such an IP differentiation for us that we didn't want to openly share with everyone. But essentially, what we're doing is for every industry. We started with our top 10 industries. But by the end of January, we're going to have it for the top 24 industries. We've created a very detailed point of view on exactly for every industry, what are the key domains, what are the key workflows in those domains. And for those who are closed, how those workflows are going to be reimagined with agents.
And typically, for every key workflow, we have four or five agents how those agents work together, we described it in our point of view, who is the human manager for agents and how the agents interact with the human manager, how those agents impact specific business metrics of the company. And then how those agents are going to be deployed over time. We define the agents. We've created not just value calculator. We've created a database of thousands of agents that have all the definition, the role, the actions that they need to take, the data that they can access to, they guard rails, the things that they cannot do the channels that they -- where they surface where we will surface the agents. This is really a very rich IP.
When we put in front of the customers, they say, "Oh my God, we want to become an agentic enterprise. Let's start. We come in with Horizon 1, Horizon 2, Horizon 3, that's the demand plan. And at that point, they look at me, they look at our teams and say, okay, that wait a minute, this could be expensive because you guys have all these sort of metrics and consumption of data ingestion, conversations set base, how are we going to make this work. And this is one of the parts of the -- of our methodology to sell the agentic enterprises, we present to customers all sort of pricing options to meet them where they are.
Some customers will go, I think there's the next slide. So I got asked this question in the earnings call yesterday. And essentially, we didn't have any of that 9 months ago, a year ago. And we realized we've listened to our customers, we realize that different customers are in a different stage of their transformation journey. And they need different commercial frameworks to work with Salesforce.
If you go to the right, that's my favorite one, okay? That's the Agentic Enterprise License Agreement, AELA. You're going to hear a lot about AELA. Because AELA is essentially when customers are determined, they see the 150 different agents that they needed to deploy across their 20 processes. They just want to make sure that they have a flat fee that they have predictability to understand that they don't have to worry about ingesting data or conversations. We are all aligned. It's a risk-sharing model between us and the customer, where we say pay me a flat fee for the next 3 years, typically is a multimillion dollar incremental to what they're paying. And just -- let's start deploying many times, we have [ FDs ] and professional services resources just to help them drive success very rapidly. And this is becoming one of the favorite commercial frameworks, Mike. And we sold -- we basically put it together at the end of Q3. We saw 16 AELAs. Pure then we had versions of AELA like maybe dozens or hundreds, that 16 AELAs of 16 customers that went all in and said, okay, next 2 years. And in most cases, we doubled triple what customers were already spending with us.
But you can go to the left side, which is, okay, I still want predictability. [ I want still predictability ]. But unlike the seat base additions that you have. I just want to make sure that my employees that have -- that use a seat-based license for you, they have unlimited access to all the agentic power to be augmented. So all unlimited employee usage of Agentforce is included in the new additions, the Agentforce for sales, Agentforce for service, or our, I would say, magical SKU, our top SKU, which is A1E which is Agentforce 1 edition, which includes pretty much everything Agentforce, Data Cloud, [ Slack ] and many other things.
In the middle, you have the pay-as-you-go. If you are not sure, okay, let's start with pay-as-you-go. There are some customers that like in the hyperscaler world, they like that kind of relationship, they precommit and then basically, they can consume those credits over a period of time.
And then we have a flex agreement, which essentially, if customers believe that agents are going to take the place of some humans and they may need less seats, which by the way, we are not seeing in our customer base yet. But it gives them the resurance that they can move seat-based licenses into credit flex credits for Agentforce and Data Cloud. So anyways, all this pricing mechanism are really resonating very well. AELA are resonating incredibly well. We have -- we're approaching now 100 AELA, every week, there is 10 or 20 more AELA that are added into the pipeline. And just so as you know, we do AELA in the low end of the market, mid-market and then the top of the market. But for my team to ask approval for AELA, the size needs to be more than [ 0.5 million ] in the low end of the market, more than [ 1.5 million ] I think is in the mid of the market and more than [ 5 million ], but this is Net New Incremental.
I don't know if I have more yes. Yes. The next slide is an NAV, which is it was also a key message of the call. So one of the key messages, again, the quarter was a managing at, let's focus on the future. One of the key messages of the future was humongous agentic enterprise, demand coming at us. This is like nothing we've seen before. Second message was we are uniquely positioned to win in this new massive TAM, which is multi trillion TAM. We are uniquely positioned because we have the last mile. And the last message of the call was something that we already shared with you in Investor Day, is the lines have crossed. I told you when I was on a stage in San Francisco, I told you the lines are crossing. I see the lines crossing, and when the Net New AOV is above the AOV, we -- AOV accelerates. And this is what you need to think about as we move into the future, because we are confident that in fiscal year '27, Net New AOV will continue to be a few points ahead of the AOV. We're going to make those viewpoint many points, but that's our goal. We are very confident. If we were confident, hopefully, we sounded confident in the investors call. A month later, we are even more confident.
Now the AOV growth acceleration will translate into revenue acceleration, subscription and support. Robin said it very clearly, 12 to 18 months from last month. I kind of joke with her, and I say, well, then it's going to be 11 to 17 months, but it's coming. And we are -- I mean, I think we have a reputation of being reasonably clear and conservative on how we guide. We all are saying from the CFO to the CRO that the subscription support revenue acceleration is going to happen between 11 and 17 months. You could be confident of that, too.
There's a lot of reasons why bookings are accelerating, the capacity I have 15 -- I have today, I have like 13%, 14% more ramped capacity. In total, I have 23% more capacity. At the end of the year, I'm going to have 20% more capacity than a year before. I'm going to enter the year with 20% more capacity, of which more or less 15% growth in ramped capacity.
Ramped capacity are productive capacity. The innovation that Srini and [ Steve ] have delivered, I mean, I'm probably the luckiest CRO in the world because I've never seen so much. It's not just Agentforce. It's even across our core clouds. We also launched [ ITSM ]. I think we're going to have a lot of good discussions in our next earnings around ITSM is booming already. We just launched, we won dozens for customers.
[ Life Science Cloud ] was a great example. It's just quadruple or I don't know, the next specific statistics, but it grew a lot during Q3. And I just want to mention that this is pretty big because we were doing a lot of business in Life Science, and also medical devices, et cetera. And -- but as you know, for many years, we had this great partner that we basically partner and capturing that opportunity. We were capturing the outside commercial side, the opportunity, they were very focused on the commercial side and the clinical side. And then 1 year, 1.5 years ago, they decided to compete head to head with us, and we decided to build solutions to compete with them. And the results have been incredible. I mean we announced yesterday in Novartis. We had announced Pfizer of the top 20 of the top 20. We've already won 5 or 6. And I say it's 5 or 6 because there's one that is an embargo bad, I think there's going to be a press release later today where we're going to announce another major pharma company going to us. So we are gaining market share from [ Viva ] like there is no tomorrow.
We've already, in addition to the big 20, which there are still many in the air and they are reviewing -- they all want the Salesforce platform. That's why they were happy with [ Viva ]. They want our agentic capabilities. They want our data cloud to unify data across all the different domains in the business. And they are afraid to move with a small player that is going to build a new platform for them. So many of them want to stay and are staying. There's more than 100 Life Science customers that have selected Life Science Cloud and the moving of [ Viva ], and we are just getting started. So that's an example of innovation.
Anyways, I'm excited about the future. I'm pretty sure that we're going to continue to show this slide because I like this slide so that you see that Net New AOV is above AOV.
And that's my role. That's also my partner in crime role here, Srini, because he has all the resources for customer success, and he's obsessed in making sure that actually, we both are responsible for the Net New AOV line. So that's what I wanted to share with you, and I'm looking forward to the Q&A, and I'm going to hand over to here to my...
So thank you, Miguel. I think as my role as -- first of all, thank you, everybody, for joining and appreciate the time commitment you have given us. My role is, again, as Head of Engineering and also Customer Success. So I think when the industry is changing so much, this is a period of transformation. And what we want to be very sure is that things are changing so much, we are very closely tied because the products are moving the underlying tech stack, the models, everything is changing.
Key is to be very tight feedback loop with our products, with our customers and really feedback that loop. And even the pricing example you saw we are listening very hard. We are going to fight very hard because I think a lot of things are changing, and we don't take anything for granted, and we're very hungry. And some of the examples, I just want to give you a couple of examples quickly. on some customers and what they are seeing. And a lot of these customers have been -- have gone through this journey with us. And one example is [ Falabella ]. [ Falabella ] is a Latin American retailer, very big company.
Now what they did is like they were having this problem that a lot of their customers were calling their regular call center, but they wanted to redirect to WhatsApp. And one of the things they used to [ Agentforce was Agentforce ], can work in any of the channels that customers are in. They turned on Agentforce, and really, right now, they've increased -- they're doing about 216,000 monthly WhatsApp conversation, 60% questions auto resolved. And real interesting thing is the adoption increase they're seeing. They -- as I said, the stated goal is to move more and more to WhatsApp and then they've got a 440% adoption increase just from August to October. And they're live in three countries in Colombia, Peru, Chile, and they want to go a lot more. And that's a great question of somebody who's really saying a retailer, a consumer agent, which is really answering questions.
I think on Falabella, I know them very well. Actually, I met the CEO a while ago. The -- this is the sort of the [ Nordstrom ] for Latin America, [indiscernible]. And I think what is pretty impressive is they started with a proof of concept and they've refilled the tank as we say, they come back to us twice and now is a multimillion dollar relationship just in the agentic part of the business. Super successful, super...
And that most of their things is in Spanish. They want to add more languages there. Now that's one sort of retail use case. Then if you look at [ Smosh ], [ Smosh ] is a global leader in communication data and intelligence for regulated industries, very complicated use case. There's a lot of complex queries they get, they used Agentforce. This is where a lot of our advanced drug and reasoning systems and how we do vector indexing. This is not like to make these answers very sophisticated answers. Again, this is the other example in telecommunication industry. They're seeing a 20% increase in customer success rates. They also tried to do it by themselves a couple of times. They tried it, they saw our system because there is a complexity that we can handle an enterprise scale and they're really seeing 20% increase, faster resolution, 30% increase in service product. There's like one another different industry, different case class of problem statement.
So if you go to the next slide. [indiscernible] Telecom, French telecom company, major French communications company. They've been a Salesforce customer for 10 years. They have 10,000 field service contractors. They use our service cloud, our field service, marketing, Data 360, MuleSoft, existing sales force customer then imagine that they all have all the data already in Salesforce, they really say, how can I now change my thing. Their average call handling time was 2 minutes before. They really want to improve that they used Agentforce service in the line of flow and then they reduce from 2 minutes to 12 seconds. And then their accuracy, again, when again these are complicated use cases. And then they found a 95% use case.
And then one of the things we also measure as a leading indicator is how many of their workflows that the customer has or identified. So they're doing -- they're running about 3.5 monthly agentic workflows, and they call their agent Iris. By the way, this is the other thing we are seeing. All of our customers especially who are public facing, they name their agent. Williams and Sonoma, we talked on the earnings call multiple times, they call their agent Olive. Almost everybody gives it a personality, which is tied to the brand of the company. I personally think just like people have a website. Going forward, they'll always have an agent, which represents this brand. It starts with one use case in customer support. Pretty soon, it goes to other use cases. And for all of this, again, to bring it back, the underlying platform is important. The context is important.
Then you will see another in financial services industry. The financial services [indiscernible] is credit union. They got 2.8 million members, $25 billion in assets. They wanted to do their loan underwriting reviews. AI driven lower underwriting revenues because that's, again, a complex regulated industry use case. And then they are finding that they can handle 10% faster handle time for reports. 75% of ITSM cases autoresult and 30% projected cost in call centers. This is an example, again.
Now if you really look at it between all the four examples, I just want to highlight a little bit of the last mile that Miguel has referred to is to do that you need an underlying platform. You need the context and context has to come from different data layers, different ability to access data, structured and unstructured, really resonate tied to the deterministic and nondeterministic workflows really understands the jobs to be done, able to do not just getting live. Now these are all public facing. So they need their compliance, regulatory, cost centers. They need a lot of security from defense injection and all of that.
And then they do operations, how do you monitor the agent? How do you value Will we call [ evals ] , but basically, it's testing and ensuring that the agents what they are how do you observe them in production. So this is what is happening. So I just wanted to give you a sense of how we are very close to the customers and all of them.
Some of these customers work with their own FDs, sometimes they implement it themselves. Sometimes they're implementing mostly with our partners. So taking the feedback -- and based on these early customers, we almost added 120 features in the product. So we are learning very fast iterating into the product, and that's the journey we are in. So with that, Mike, back to you.
Great. Thank you, both. So we are going to move to Q&A. We've got a number of questions coming in that we'll try and get through. And for those that joined maybe shortly after we started, if you do have questions, please submit them into the chat, the Q&A button, you see there on the screen, and we will do our best to get to as many questions as we can.
So with that, let me first start, Miguel is going to be for you. He's coming from Kirk Materne, and he wants to click a little bit more into AELA and give a little bit more color on -- and we've been getting this question quite a bit, the impact of AELA that they're going to have a Net New AOV, like how it translates from agreement into Net New AOV and AOV. And then more importantly or just as important, what you see coming on the horizon. So as you think about the second phase of the agreement, so they signed an initial 2- or 3-year deal, what does that look like? And then what's the shape of Alas looking like in the pipeline as well? Because you guys have talked a lot about the pipeline.
So yes, we're getting this question a lot. I'm very excited because I think people are understanding the power of the AELA. AELA pretty much cement the relationship with that we strive with our customers. So it's going to have a big impact on any attrition risk, many of the clouds that they had, disappears typically is a significant increase step change increase in how we are monetizing the customer because this is the very important thing.
In the SaaS world, in the CRM SaaS world, customers are using our product like a CRM, it's SaaS CRM and the typical use cases. And we've been growing nicely, and we added some -- we added still service. We added marketing cloud, and we had 10%-20% to the way we monetize the relationship with our customers as they add new clouds.
The agentic enterprise world is totally different. It's a TAM that is multitrillion. And then when customers choose the Salesforce platform to transform all the processes to become the digital labor platform for all the transformation. The impact -- the ability that, that gives us to monetize the relationship is step change is a multiplier effect. It is not anymore 10%, 20%, it's times 2, times 3, times 4. We -- in the Investor Day, we talked to you about times 3, times 4. We're already seeing it with a lot of customers.
Obviously, [ Anila ] is already, in most cases, is already double or tripling the business that these customers have been doing with us for 20 years and a lot of sudden in 1 year because they want to become agentic enterprises, we put in front of them 10, 15 use cases, the goal in and then they double the spend with us or they triple the spend with us. I mean I presented [ Vivint ] as an example, or [ Finer ], as an example at the Investors Day. Well, those customers started solid customers that were in the single-digit million relationship with [indiscernible] with multicloud, very happy.
And then agentic enterprise came, they thought how can I transform, should I go to this vendor, should I go to this vendor? And they all realize that they needed the last mile that Salesforce has provided. I already explained the last mile, the differentiation, that's how our moat. And they're all betting on us. They started with the proof of concept we came up -- I mean, a lot of the names of how our customers are giving personalities to these agents. But in the case of Finnair CISO, which means resilience, is the agent that they put in production. And now many travelers that are stacking airports and have issues, they call CISO results of the problem. And CISO has been so successful that the volumes of actions that CISO is taking per week has multiplied by, I think, the numbers by 5 just in the last few weeks. So they went into an AELA with us. And Finnair, which was a stable company in just a year, has more than doubled the relationship with us. And this is just for a few use cases. So they have many more to come. [ Vivint ] is the same example, home security, smart home. Solutions, Randy was with me on stage. He's really -- he's the head of engineering. He's really technical. He baked us off against all the possible agentic enterprise layer competitors. The choices because he said, "I'm going to choose you because you have the data, you have the humans and you have the deterministic workflows that we want to execute on". He piloted. He launched three agents with 20 or 30 use cases for every agent mega successful, again, another 10x increase in volume of actions taken by the agent. And he said, "Okay, I'm going in. And then he did AELA. And we more than double a very large relationship that we have with him. Over 10 years, we doubled it in just 12 months. And this is happening to every single one of our customers.
So the second part of the question is, okay, now that you have the AELA, you have the visibility. It's a partnership, it's a share risk okay? We take some risk because I really want -- the worst case that can happen, the worst case scenario for us in an AELA is that the customer is so successful that they deploy 100 agents that they consume a lot that we have to hit the LLM a lot that we had to ingest a lot of data and that the cost to serve of those agreements may be high. But guess what, the renewal comes. The customer has already developed 50, 20, 70 agents is consuming a lot. Those agents will need to consume even more in the future, and there will be another 50 or 100 agents. So we will recap the agreement, and we will make it again, share risk, but we are very confident that the profitability of these agreements are going to be very high.
So this is going to be a cornerstone of our strategy. For me, the message is this new TAM that we've been asked to participate in is a new sport. We are now playing into a different field and it's significantly much larger. And every time that we get one of our customers, SaaS CRM customers into the agentic enterprise new sport. Essentially, they double, triple or quadruple the business that they were doing with us, which is very exciting.
By the way, they are very excited because they use our software in incredible new ways. I mean the conversations that we have with these customers when they talk about their [ Viva ], then [ CISO ], then Olive, it's very exciting. You're going to see a lot of household names in 5 years. Everybody is going to be talking about the names of these agents for every service. And there is significantly more to come. We have 18,000 customers. Nobody , please ask other companies how many customer-facing agents have you sold? Tell me stories. They will give you 2, 3, 10 stories. We have 18,000 stores and growing. By the end of the year, we're going to be close to 25,000 to 30,000 stories, okay?
And we're going to start the year with those customers. coming back and refilling the tank. I mean I was in Q1, if you remember, I was very excited because I found 3 customers. We had at a time 3000 plus, three customers, obviously, most of them are not bought in Q4, in Q1, three of them knocked at our door and say, okay, I need more credits. I need to refill the tank. And I was very proud.
Well, this quarter in Q3, more than 50% of the bookings that we did with AMF but also with Data Cloud came from customers reselling the tank. There were 362 customers refilling the tank, okay? So as the installed base of Agentforce customers grow, the number of customers coming to us refilling the tank is going to exponentially go. And this is -- I mean, this is a panacea. This is the world of consumption where short -- I mean the sales cycles become very short, where a productivities go up because they don't really have to do much. The digital labor is already working for them. And then the customer calls us. Okay. I need more credits. I need more fuel to the tank. Anyway, very exciting.
Thank you, Miguel. So we've got a lot of questions coming in. This is great. I really like this next question from Terry Tillman my friend from Atlanta. And this one is going to be for Srini. And I personally I like it because we've spent a lot of time as a leadership team talking about this, the importance of this technology as we continue to advance agent for.
So Srini, could you give a little bit of color and introduce maybe for the folks on the call that haven't been as close to it, the voice innovation that we've been injecting and recently launched into agent force and the relevance of agent script as well.
Thank you, Terry. Great question. So as we've been working on voice for a year, the GA, and we did a lot of pilot customers with GA, the dreamforce. Now we have a lot of customers who are trying it. I think the critical thing to understand is, one is voice is a new -- right from day 1, we realized when we build the architecture, the -- one of the most important things is the agents have to work in different channels. I gave you a WhatsApp channel as an example, at Falabella, like it could be WhatsApp, SMS, voice, web, embedded in other agents like Chat GPT. So it has to work on all channels. .
What customers do not want to do is redo it for every channel because you realize that it's very hard to get all your data right, put all the guardrails and do it and then imagine replacing it. So one of the big advantages of us on Agentforces customers, when they try to open up in one channel, it's just switching a switch and enablement, and then it will work for white to because the same logic, the same prompts you have given, same reasoning, same knowledge base is everything the voice agent will be able to use because the -- what drives the voice agent is the same reasoning engine that drives the chat agent, the WhatsApp agent and all. So that's why voice is there. hopefully, we cannot share. We haven't gotten permission from these customers to share their names, but we do a lot of customers, but hopefully, by next earnings call, we'll have customers who we can publicly reference as voice.
Tied to that, you asked about Agent script. One of the learnings that -- this is important, I'll keep repeating to that. We are working very closely with the customers. We are working, we are hand in glove. We are trying to learn what they're doing, what they're doing, RMDs are doing, our partners are doing.
One of these things, and I think if you'll realize this word, I used call what we realized is people are writing prone. They say, do this, don't do this. They keep the prompts keeping longer and longer. And then the LLM are great until some point and then they get confused. And so what we saw was our developers, our engineers or everybody implemental spending a lot of time in what I call a prom doom loop, where -- It's as though we forgot engineering the regular programming. So I think it looks like a hammer, everything looks like a nail, because I have a hammer. So what we said is, hey, there are a lot of things. The LLMs are very good. let's use them. There are a lot of things there. They are not good.
So if you really want a prescribed frog where you always want to do some authentication, LLMs do it when you give the instruction, they don't guarantee it. In a B2C scenario, maybe 95% accuracy is okay. In an enterprise scenario, they want 100% the standard operating procedure. And then what we found is, hey, there's a much easier way to do it. So we introduced this agent script, which says, hey, let's use the power and creativity of the LLM where you want and the determinism of the regular script or regular programming then you don't want that. And in an easy way so that your time to implementation gets less, your testing cycles get reduced.
So I think it's almost you have to think about it is agent script, just like voice is new channels, agent script makes the entire agents much more resilient and for an enterprise use cases, but also make your time to test and go live much shorter. That's why it's very powerful.
Great. Thanks, Sean. Next question we have is coming from Mark Murphy and team. and we're going to double click into the kind of the do-it-yourself dynamic that we've been seeing because I think it's a really important dimension to our ramp up agent force. And the question really revolves around customers who may start out on the do-it-yourself path and then coming back or boomeranging back to Salesforce in the end to adopt Agentforce. But I'll ask both Miguel and Srini to chime in on this one. But can you guys provide some color around what you're seeing in the customer behaviors. And then just as important with that, what's the time to value that you're seeing with your customers? And what are some of the things maybe for Srini, in particular, what are some of the things we're doing to help accelerate that kind of value.
Yes. So the good news is Actually, I don't like the word Boomer because it's not that they leave us for us and then come back, which is sort of the Boomerang. It's just that they believe that they can build the capability without Salesforce. And then later, they realize that they need to do with Salesforce.
So first of all, the good news is, and this is very important. I keep referring you guys to the huge opportunity of the identic enterprise. Every single company in the world. I mean last quarter, I was in 12 countries, three continents. I met 400 customers. I had conversations with 400 customers probably it was 1011. Every single one is experimenting with multiple technologies in different domains of the company, they use it eternally. So obviously, the one domain where we really want to own and really grow with our customers is the customer domain.
But even the customer domain, there are many customers. I mean we have 18,000 agent force customers out of 200,000 basically. So it means that the other 190,000 customers. Today, they're experimenting with something else, which, you know what, is huge news because they know what they want. They are going to hit the wall because they're going to realize that they don't have the last mile.
And I'll give you a very quick example, and then maybe you can also add to that. Huge bank in Europe. I'm not going to go to the country Europe, otherwise, it because it's the biggest bank in that country. The great customer of Salesforce, 30,000 financial services cloud licenses, 8,000 Service Cloud in the call centers. I mean like obviously many double-digit, healthy double-digit million of AOV with us. And a year, 1.5 years ago, they started experimenting and they -- somebody had the great idea that they could do this with Microsoft.
And then they took all the CRM data from spare went to Azure they put it there, then they use copilot to get the logic and they put Microsoft like 30 engineers to work on that for 1 year. They didn't get anywhere because what they built was disconnected from what their 43,000 employees of this bank, we're doing every day. Triggering workflows. This bank, for instance, they have more than 1,000 different flows that have been codified in the Salesforce apps, which is our automation that the humans are triggering every day to the tons of millions of automations triggered by the Siemens every month.
And so they built something that was disconnected that was super heavy that was very custom. And then at that point, obviously, we have a great relationship, we say, "Guys, we can do this. It's embedded where the humans are with the best technology we say agent force with Data Cloud, bringing all the information from the different units together". And they say, okay, let's do it. We put 3 not even the solution engineers and they built the same but embedded with the humans with the workflows in 1 month. And then a month later, we signed a double-digit, double-digit multimillion agreement with them to add to what they were doing, and that was just the beginning.
Now we're talking to them, again, to double that. because now they want basically all these capabilities to every single employee in the bank. And by the way, they are -- they love. These are the provider for many of the things that it doesn't make sense to do it yourself when you are in the customer domain. Now if you want a solution for some supply chain or whatever, well, we were not a player there. By the way, now we are because we've got real. But my point is, there is a lot of experimentation. This is demand that is going to come to us. It's the best thing that can happen. 100% of the customers are going to become an agentic enterprise.
Who are they going to choose? Listen, I think most of our customers are going to choose us. And what I said earlier, this is very important when they choose us, it's not that our business with them is going to grow 10% or 20%. Our business with them is going to triple or quadruple.
So do the math, of course, it takes time. First, we are first educating our thousands of new AEs that we are adding to our go to market, then they have to get the face time with them with the customers. be in front of them, explaining the concept of the last mile. And then the customer needs to make a decision and then we need to pilot and then we need to find the success, and then they go with and it takes time, but we are seeing this accelerating like never before. That's a testimony of that is the pipeline. We never had this size of pipeline, very healthy double-digit growth in pipeline in open pipeline in next fiscal year. So things are moving in the right direction.
So just -- I think Miguel answered most of the question. Just a little bit more specific context is, like I said, some of our most advanced customers, most forward-leaning CIOs, I would say, who are ahead of the curve. They are always innovators. They started 2 years. So they went through all the experimentation. So they're more clear on what works, what doesn't work, what is the cost. And so they realize that there are things which is not work for them to solve. That's why you need a platform. This is the same -- why do you buy a platform versus why do you want to build yourself? .
I think they also got fed, including me, as I'm also an engineering I'm a practitioner of whatever I do, I'm also using white coding my engineering teams. I really know what works, what doesn't work. What does the limit. So I think they learned it, so they are much more clear that what it works. At the same time, by the way, like Miguel said, they have multiple agent initiatives.
One of the other things, which really helped us all across the platform, we standardized on the open standards, right, from the data lake layer with iceberg right from MCP, different models. And now with agent graft, MuleSoft agent graph, like where you do -- we support A2A. So it allows them to say that, hey, I can build specific domain agents I can -- even including our absorbability with open telemetry standards and stuff like that. So because the platform is open at every layer, now these customers are saying that, "Hey, for these domains, it's not worth me is trying to build I'm going to use it. But one of the things we want you sales force is if I want to call your agent for some reason, let's say, I built it on AWS or Azure or Micro-custom Google or something. Can I talk to your agent"and that's what Milo graph is. And I think one of the most resonating things which I found from these enterprise CIOs who are little advanced is, they already see the future, this multi-agent orchestration. And one of the most important things they glued on right now is [indiscernible] agent graft because it allows them the Federation. They can -- they don't need to do things, which they don't need to do. They get out of the box templates and agents, like we said for each of the vertical with specific domains. So they don't do the heavy lifting that they don't need to do.
They will definitely use their teams their team's bandwidth on specific uses, which are unique for them. And so we enable this multi-agent world with open standards, and that's what we are seeing. And I think some of the other people who are a little late to the game, they will come many 6, 7 months. They learn that, hey, it's not the day 1 problem. When you go good demo. It's once it's in production and day 1 and 2 because these things degrade if you don't do it. There's a lot of work. Just like a human, you need to performance manage them. It takes a lot is what we are learning with help.salesforce.com too. They realize the overhead is not worth it. I better depend on the platform. So I feel that's what we are seeing, and I can see that going more and more.
Perfect. So we've got a number of questions coming in. I'm actually going to do kind of a two for here, and I'm going to jump down a little bit and then come back and combine a couple of questions. But -- so this next one is from Tyler Racket City QII -- going to take the first half of this question where you asked about the net new AV growth statement of net new AV being higher than AOV growth in H2and what the comparison is on Q4 versus Q3. We obviously haven't disclosed Q4 versus Q3. We've been vocal about Q3 being strong. But the forecast and how we come up with it, obviously, is based on pipeline and our projections around expected bookings in Q4. So that also feeds our CRPO guidance for the quarter.
So that's kind of the way I would frame that. The second half of Tyler's question, I'm actually going to combine with Michael Turan's question from Wells. And it really revolves around the promise or the visibility we gave everyone at Investor Day around the uplift that we're going to see over the long-term horizon AOV synonymous. And what adoption looks like within customers for agent force and we go from first use case, second use case, 30 use case. Miguel laid out, obviously, a slide earlier that we consider to be very important to how we land this with customers on introducing a number of agent use cases. But maybe we'll start with Srini and Miguel, I'm sure we'll chime in. But maybe, Srini, can you give some insight into how you approach the deployment forward deployed engineers, obviously, has become an important leg of our strategy and trying to drive that. And then Miguel, maybe if you can expand on that, talking about then what the conversation becomes with the customer and expanding to the second, third, fourth use cases.
Yes. So I think let me -- also, there's a lot of hype around the term forward deployment engineer, like what it is, what it is not like. So let me deep like just demystify some of this. When a new product comes, we always used to do that. We'll have a small team, which will work initially with the initial call them pilot and then have the engineering teams work closely to mature the product. Basically in the world of agency contract, we so most the underlying sale is happening even in underlying technologies. We wanted a little bit bigger investment to iterate.
So one key role of our forward deployment engineers is to mature the product, okay? So that like it easy for customers to implement, get the feedback iterated. So which I would call them as product FDs whose main job is to give the feedback to the loop give feedback of the product engineers, what's happening in the ground, reiterate fast to mature the product so that we can scale it because we have 200,000 customers across so many countries. And then Part of doing that also is work with our partners, SIs, correct to really ensure that this is -- this agent transformation is like it's a slightly different model. So I think we are working with standardizing the playbooks and all for our customers. So why -- so as you see, now what was interesting for me is of the thousands of customers we have live initially maybe 8 months back, almost every implementation we were involved.
Now a lot of times, I'm finding that this customer is live and very big usage, and we are not even involved, which shows which is where I want to be because I want to mature the product. So the cost of implementation can be, first of all, a, the customers could implement it themselves or any of our partners can implement it. correct? While we're improving the product.
So I think the structure and at some point, right now for the initial customers, our aim is adoption and maturing the product and tracking it. Some of this, we are bundling. At some point, if you are an AELA in a land all we're going to be part of the package. And maybe at some point, we will also charge for the FDA motion. We are not there yet, but I think that's what we are doing. But we are moving -- my main goal is to really mature the product where we can really iterate it, and then we get all our lean on our partner ecosystem. And in fact, we are working very closely with a lot of our big partners like Accenture, Deloitte, KPMG and others and across the world, specialist partners to really scale this so that they can take it because to really deliver this agented transformation of the TAM, we can't do it alone. We really need our entire partner community, and we are having regular meetings that are part of our training. In fact, we're running FD bootcamps where the partners are coming with us. So I think this is going to be a whole of not just sales force, but the entire partner ecosystem.
Another thing I just forgot to tell you is because of these open standards, when we say partners, is SI partners, but a lot of these agents, I think if you remember what Miguel has showed on the second slide of all the different agents, a lot of our ISV partners, our Independent Software Vendors partners, they will build, just like AppExchange, there'll be an agent exchange, they'll be building a lot of the last mile agents on the platform. And we're working with a lot of them and they will build those actions and agents. We already announced a Dreamforce hundreds of actions through our AOVs. And I think as the platform is maturing, we're taking the feedback and the whole cycle will repeat.
In fact, in the point of view slides that you saw a mini version just complicated in the bigger slide. But essentially, when we go to every industry, and we show the 150 agents that we need to deploy, we actually qualify every agent, and we said, these 50 are embedded already in our platform out of the box. This 25 million come from our ISV ecosystem that we've already certified them, so they work on our platform. And then these other 50, you need to build them yourself, but this is how you build them. This is the data that you need, et cetera. So partners are fundamental to really accelerate this revolution.
The demand is going to be huge. Every one of our big partners from Deloitte to Accenture to all of them. They are getting ready with massive hubs with experts. They're getting all certified on the Salesforce platform, the Agentforce, the Data 360 and our apps. And I think one to finalize with the question is how fast people go to double to triple to quadruple. It actually depends. It depends on where the customer is in their mindset, their conviction on how much have they experimented. What I can tell you already is that we've seen dozens of customers, probably 100 customers already that they've doubled. But they've doubled a successful relationship that they had with us for 10 years with multicloud and in just 1 year for an initial set of use cases, they double the spend with us. Which is a great indicator that probably they're going to go 3, 4, 5x. I mean there is one -- a group of Vacasa, for instance, is an example of a financial services company in Central America. They just went 5x in the first shot because they saw it, they want to go fast, they want to be differentiated, and they basically -- their relationship with us has multiplied by 5.
So this is like a step function for our business, also for our partner business. And my goal, listen, is to move very fast to get as many customers to adopt our platform to become agentic enterprises and to do it with full commitment with an AELA. They can do pay as you go, and then we're going to see the times 2 and times 3 or time 4 is going to take longer. And of course, the very big accounts. We have a lot of accounts that pay us more than $100 million. We have a lot of accounts that pay us more than $150 million. Those would take a bit longer to multiply by 4 or by 5.
But some of the wins. When I look at the top 10 wins, and this is a cool statistic that I would like to mind share with the team here. So if you look at the top 10 transactions that we did in Q3 just order of magnitude, those included more or less $105 million of Net New ACV. And if you look at the TCV, so what is committed in the contract, approximately more than $1 billion okay? The 10 transactions, basically in our RPO, it shows basically more than $1 billion.
Well, in those transactions in the ACV. Seven of the 10 transactions were driven by the agentic enterprise transformation with Data Cloud and Agentforce, 7 of the 10. There were others that were single cloud that they wanted to expand but seven of them, which is great because it's 7 of the top 10. And when you look at the -- how much did they bought of agent force and Data Cloud. Actually quite a bit, 30%, 35% of the ACV was agent for [indiscernible] Data Cloud. The West were our core clouds. And in the total bookings, it was less than 15%. 85% were our core clouds. What this means is, number 1 is agent for entitled prevalent in our biggest deals. Customers are accelerating their multi-cloud transformation because of Region Force and Data Cloud. So Data Cloud and enforce make all of our clouds better, that's why Mike Mark continues to say, which is true. Sales cloud is no longer sales cloud. Service Cloud is no longer sevice cloud. Marketing clients, it's Agentforce cloud, Agentforce Service Cloud, Agentforce Commerce Cloud, Agentforce marketing cloud.
Yes. Well, thank you, Miguel. Thank you, Srini. And with that, we're at time. I really, really appreciate the participation today and the interaction questions were great. If you haven't gotten enough Miguel yet, we'll have Miguel on stage at the Barclays conference next week with Rainbow. And then I do have an ask for everyone on the call, if there are what other topics you all want to hear about, we have a quarterly session of this going on. And so we're always looking for new topics to bring you guys more insights into what's happening in the business.
I know we are up on time, but there was a question about commerce comes Cloud. And I think I want to address it because I want to leave it hanging.
So we totally transform our Commerce Cloud offering. And the question was about what -- how are you doing to differentiated? Do you seem to have lost market share, deceleration. So we've actually spent the time innovating and building a stronger Commerce Cloud. And the basis of our stronger Commerce Cloud is we made it head list. Most of the other options are also head list. We've added a very powerful order management platform around it, which is that business is growing very fast, very important. We made it totally agentic. So it's not commerced, it's not commenced. It's Agentforce Commerce Cloud. So now you're going to be -- you're going to have a shopping system agent on everything that you do. We've added a point-of-sale solution, very modern points or a solution that is growing now a lot from a small base, but it's growing significantly.
And then finally, we have connected it much tighter with the other clouds. So listen, if you want to just buy a stand-alone comment for our website, probably we're not the right option for you. If you want to build another touch point in your customer engagement, connected with marketing, connected with service, connected with agent force. We have the obvious choice. And that's the big deals that we're winning on Commerce Cloud. Commerce Cloud was one of the fastest-growing Clouds in Q3 also for Net AOV, but of course, of a lower base than the other clouds, but I'm very excited about the future of Commerce Cloud.
Great. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining. Appreciate it. Have a great one.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce zeichnet das Bild einer beschleunigten Agentic‑Enterprise‑Adoption: Agentforce + Data Cloud sollen als „letzte Meile“ (Kontext, Apps, Menschen) große Mengen digitaler Arbeitskraft orchestrieren; Management betont, dass Net‑New AOV (Net New Annual Order Value, jährlicher Neuauftragswert) aktuell schneller wächst als die Gesamt‑AOV und damit die Umsatz‑Re‑Beschleunigung antreiben soll.
📌 Strategische Highlights
- Moat: Differenzierungsbehauptung: Plattformnähe (Daten + Apps + menschliche Workflows) ist die „Last‑Mile“‑Kompetenz gegenüber DIY‑Projekten; viele Kunden kehren zurück, weil externe LLM‑Lösungen die Betriebsprozesse nicht zuverlässig ausführen können.
- Kommerz: Neues Lizenzmodell AELA (Agentic Enterprise License Agreement) plus Pay‑as‑you‑go/Flex‑Optionen sollen Preisdiskussionen entschärfen und Nachfrage in planbare, mehrjährige Verträge verwandeln; AELA wird als wichtiger Hebel für Multiplizierung der Kundenumsätze dargestellt.
- Go‑to‑Market: Playbooks für Top‑Branchen, 150+ vordefinierte Agenten, Vor‑Ort‑Ingenieure (Forward‑Deployed Engineers) und Partner‑Ökosystem (SI/ISV) sollen Time‑to‑Value verkürzen und Skalierung ermöglichen.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Neu: Konkretere Operationale Details zur Umsetzung: branchen‑spezifische Agent‑Kataloge, AELA‑Pipeline (Management sprach von steigender Zahl abgeschlossener AELAs) und Product‑Features (Agent Script, Voice‑Support) — keine neuen finanziellen Guidance‑Zahlen, aber klarere Kommerz‑ und Rollout‑rahmen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Impact AELA: Analysten haken auf Übersetzung AELA→Net‑New‑AOV nach; Management sagt AELA reduziert Abwanderungsrisiko und multipliziert Bestandsumsatz (doubling/tripling bei Kundenbeispielen).
- Technik: Details zu Voice und „Agent Script“: Kanalunabhängige Agentenarchitektur, kombinierter Einsatz von LLM‑Kreativität und deterministischen Skripten für Unternehmens‑SLA‑Sicherheit.
- GTM/ROI: DIY‑Projekte kommen oft zurück; Time‑to‑value wird durch Plattform‑Embedding, Forward‑Deployed Engineers und Partner beschleunigt — aber die Ramp‑ und Governance‑Arbeit bleibt anspruchsvoll.
⚡ Fazit
- Fazit: Für Aktionäre bleibt dies ein Produkt‑/GTM‑update mit positiver Implikation: Salesforce positioniert sich gezielt als bevorzugte Plattform für „digital labor“ und schafft mit AELA und einem breiten Agent‑Portfolio Ansätze zur skalierten Monetarisierung; kurzfristig sind die Aussagen operativ/qualitativ, die erwartete Umsatz‑Reaccelerierung bleibt an Buchungs‑ und Implementierungserfolg gebunden.
Salesforce — Q3 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Leila and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Salesforce Third Quarter Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Spencer, Executive Vice President of Finance and Strategy and Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today on our fiscal 2026 third quarter results conference call. Our press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our website. Joining me on the call today is Marc Benioff, Chair and CEO; Robin Washington, Chief Operating and Finance Officer. We also have Srini Tallapragada, President and Chief Engineering and Customer Success Officer; and Miguel Milano, President and Chief Revenue Officer, joining us for the Q&A portion of the call.
Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings included in our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings.
Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures and reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results and guidance can be found in our earnings materials and press release. And with that, let me hand the call over to Marc.
All right. Great job, Mike. And thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Well, as you can see, first of all, great seeing everyone at Dreamforce. We're so happy that you are all with us. And now you can see we've delivered strong results for the quarter across all of our key metrics. We're continuing to execute on the path to our $60 billion dream that we outlined in detail with you -- all of you at Investor Day. And we delivered really strong bookings. Miguel is here. He's going to talk to you about that.
And we have delivered incredible results with Agentforce. It's really exceeding our expectations. You're going to hear all the details, but I think that you could see 3.2 trillion tokens delivered for our customers. It's all exceeding our expectations. We're going to get into all of that detail as well. That's the core of our organic innovation. We're making these disciplined strategic acquisitions like Informatica, also now online in the company. We're really excited about the harmonization, integration, federation that Informatica plus Data 360 plus MuleSoft is giving us, and that's going to strengthen our overall leadership in data and, of course, AI.
And we're ensuring that we have the distribution capacity, that's extremely important for us because we are a direct seller in place to support long-term growth, and Miguel has made some fantastic investments over the last 12 months in all of our core segments, we're going to talk about that as well. And finally, Robin is going to speak in more detail about the capital allocation strategy and the investments that we're making for fiscal year '27, which we're getting very excited about and a very clear focus on our continued path for, I would say, very sustainable, profitable, durable growth and innovation in the company.
Now you are all at Dreamforce. You saw that energy, the level of customer success. It exceeded my expectations. And you saw how we're bringing humans, data, AI apps together to build the Agentic enterprise. And we just couldn't be more excited about that and how customers are receiving the message. Every CEO I met at Dreamforce. And I mean, every CEO I speak to just in the last couple of days, I had some great meetings. And I'll tell you that -- everyone knows that they want to get to the next level in their business to bring AI in, become more productive, become more efficient, become elevated as Matthew said in the opening video.
But they all know they now -- they've got to become these agentic enterprises. And I don't think for a lot of them 2 years, 3 years ago, maybe even a year ago, they really understood that opportunity, and they are now more motivated than ever to do it. We're going to hear about that some story, great stories from the quarter -- and of course, we've all read that crazy MIT study where customers went off trying to build their own models and try to build their own toolkits and this and that and DIY it and now they realize the real value from AI is delivering, number one, customer agents, and we have so many examples, but now I think about $500 million in Agentforce revenue, talking about customer agents, but also and what's really exciting here at Salesforce.
And some of you have seen it, but probably a lot of you haven't is employee agents. And we've really delivered an incredible new framework deeply integrated into our Slack product. Every Salesforce employee already uses it every day I do, and it's the core of every demonstration we give to our customers to show how we have unleashed with Slack, something new called Slackbot, which is really the heart of our employee agent strategy, and you're going to see that. It's incredible. It is able to go not only through Slack, but and not only through the whole Internet, but also through all of our customers' data that they have basically provisioned in a secure way through Salesforce as well and deliver a context.
And I'll tell you -- now before I do a customer visit or call or whatever it is, I'll just kind of sit right down. I was with a really good friend of mine. Just this weekend, I had lunch with him, and he's a top venture capitalist and he had been a huge investor in the Coinbase. And I'll tell you that we're just sitting there, just talking about, hey, tell me about everything with your venture capital company, tell me everything about this venture capitalist and then also tell me everything about Coinbase and the company and our relationship. And then it's able to deliver to me an absolute and complete not only analysis, not only a summarization, not only all of the detail, but next steps, how to sell, what I should do exactly for the customer.
And I love demoing this to customers because they don't think it's possible. And then when they see it, they say, "Wow, this is what AI was meant to be." And I'm like, this is context, this is data. This is apps. This is the best of the large language models and delivering it all to you. Well, anyway, let's get into the quarter. Q3 revenue was $10.26 billion. It's up 9% year-over-year, 8% in constant currency. Our non-GAAP operating margin came in strong at 35.5%. And cRPO was outstanding. You see already $29.4 billion, up 11%. Miguel is going to talk about this great quarter we had -- the best quarter, I think we've had actually in 3 years and 11% in constant currency and RPO is nearly $60 billion, growing 12% year-over-year. Kind of huge numbers, but very exciting, considering we've also rebuilt all the products as well and delivering this AI future for everyone.
This really is signaling to us that it's a strong pipeline of future revenue as customers ground their AI future in Agentforce. In the third quarter, operating cash flow was a whopping $2.3 billion, up 17% year-over-year. Free cash flow was $2.2 billion, up 22% year-over-year, and we expect to finish the year with nearly $15 billion in operating cash flow. That was pretty awesome, I think. I think it's more operating cash flow at $15 billion [ than ] even Walmart. So that's awesome. Agentforce and Data reached nearly $1.4 billion in ARR in the quarter, up 114% year-over-year, including Agentforce ARR of about $540 million, 330% year-over-year. And I think all of our account executives, [indiscernible] I think we've got about 15,000, I don't know what the exact numbers out there are all selling this now.
People really can understand it. We can demo it, we can show it. But I think you've all seen like what our customers are doing. And the one I love and that I use because I'm a huge customer is Williams-Sonoma's version of Agentforce, which they call all of [ Olive ]. And if you haven't been on the Williams Support -- Williams-Sonoma's website and seen the sous chef that they call alive and used it, I think the quality is what I'm most impressed with that it's really very, very good. You don't see hallucinizations. You see really kind of the customer personality, the quality, the ability to deliver value, and they are saying that's about 60% of their chats.
We've got a whole another level to go with them with voice, which is coming, which is very exciting. This is our fastest-growing product ever. And every Salesforce app now not just sales, service, marketing, commerce, all of them, Tableau, Slack, our new ITSM, supply chain products, they've all been rebuilt, and Sreeni's here, he's going to talk about what we've done to bring Agentforce into every product we have and we transform Agentforce from being a product to a platform so that all of our apps can reason, learn, take action, collaborate with users, but it's really about humans and apps and the AI and the data all working together.
And that is what's so exciting that every part of our platform is now so deeply integrated and because all of the data is unified. And every app shares the same metadata. They speak the same language, and you really get that feeling when you are using the Slackbot and Srini will tell you about it because all of a sudden Slackbot is able to like read across all of our data, but then talk directly to you and give you that elevated experience.
So when an LLM is interacting with Agentforce, it's getting that strategic context from our data from the data on the Internet as well, from the data that it's been trained in. And then how you -- knows how your business operates, it's really able to give you that. And that's because Salesforce is unique in that we have data that makes business more valuable. It's that customer data, the service data, the sales data, the marketing data and then we're able to deliver it in a tremendously friendly way.
We've rebuilt all of our products to deliver this agentic enterprise really just getting going. I think Srini will tell you we were really brainstorming a few years ago when we first created our GPT series, we were starting to begin to integrate the large language models. I don't think we exactly knew that at this point, we'd be able to deliver this incredible customer agent experience and this incredible employee agent experience. In fact, 6 of our top 10 deals in the quarter are now driven by companies that just want to transform with Agentforce. And that's a big thought because a year ago, we're basically just trying to ship the product. It was just coming out of beta. It was like a very strong version 1, but it's more than a strong version 1 now.
And I think everyone can go and look at that example with Williams-Sonoma or with SharkNinja or with -- I mean there are so many great examples that I use every day. I know Miguel has got his remarkable pad in front of him. So I think that just a year since we introduced Agentforce, we've closed over 18,500 Agentforce deals. 9,500 of them are paid transactions, it's up 50% quarter-over-quarter. All of our reps now kind of have the acuity. They've got the nomenclature, they're enabled. That was a huge lift for us to start to bring the whole company into this AI revolution and give them the tools and now these great customer examples.
And it's happening around the world. I just got back from Japan and I saw it there. I was in the U.K. I saw it there. I've seen obviously throughout the whole United States. It's really a global phenomenon. So Agentforce is now powered Here's a few interesting things. Agentforce has powered 1.2 billion large language model calls, that's interactions when agents invoke a model to understand contacts and decide the next best action. Across the apps, you've seen the omnichannel supervisor like built into the service cloud, where all of a sudden, I'm a customer. I'm coming into the website even like Salesforce to help.salesforce.com or any of our customers' websites.
And I'm in there, and I'm working and then all of a sudden, I've hit kind of the limit of what the LLM can do, I can escalate immediately, also write to a human. And that's where the humans and the agents and the AI and the data all have to work together. And our top 50 customers, including -- and Miguel has got this story in his pocket, but Falabella, Vivint, DIRECTV. There's so many great stories, more than 200 million Agentforce LLM calls in Q3 alone, on track to power another 2 billion over the next year. And those LMs now are calling these agent force actions such as updating the opportunities, creating a case, handling service inquiry and the number of average weekly actions has now risen about 140% Q-ver-Q.
So we're really seeing the adoption and the usage. And that's what we're exciting. And here's the number we really haven't focused on, I think, in an earnings script, and I don't even think we hit it last time exactly, but Agentforce has processed more than 3.2 trillion tokens. So 3.2 trillion tokens of LLM gateway so far. And we're going to start talking about that concept. We saw that in OpenAI's recent announcement that we were in their [ trillion ] Token Club. And of course, we use all of the large language models. The -- they're all great. We love all of them. We love all of our children, but they're also all just commodities, and we can have the choice of choosing whatever one we want, whether it's Open AI or Gemini or anthropic or what there's other open source ones, they're all very good at this point.
So we can swap them in and out. The lowest cost the best one for us, making us basically the top user of these foundation models. And that point that we did 3.2 trillion tokens, let [ Bill Bo Bagans ] know that we've got adoption and usage happening here with this large language model gateway. That was just out to JR Token himself, but that's the end of the jokes for the call.
In October alone, token usage was nearly $540 billion, up 25% month-over-month. And I just don't think any other enterprise software company has that's quite like this. This isn't your [ clippe ]. This is not your kind of a good AI demo. This is real enterprise adoption of agentic AI and capability at scale globally. And those numbers are going to keep growing as customers put Agentforce to work across their business, but not every task or step in the workflow needs to call the LLM, we call that determinism. And determinism is really important because for those of us who grew up in software, we used to call it if then statements, but now we call it determinism.
But determinism is that, hey, if I need to do this, go to the LLM, but I probably don't need to go to the LLM, just do that. So that is going to even reduce our costs further and not hit the LLM as much as we do. And that's why we built hybrid reasoning and agent script and our AI teams are just crushing it on that. And we're getting customers the best of both worlds, combining LLM driven reasoning and deterministic precision. We had strong performance across Agentforce Service, Agentforce Sales and Slack. And those 3 apps are just a powerful combination for [indiscernible] Salesforce. We use those every single day, we live on them. It is really the hat trick for Salesforce with large customers to say, "Let us show you what we're doing in service. Let us show you what we're doing in sales. Let us show what we're doing in Slack. And it's a Wow experience right now. It's only going to get better.
And in fact, if we included the full contribution of Agentforce, just in service, we used to call it Service Cloud, now we call it Agentforce service, but you look at agent for service we would show an additional point of growth in Q3. Now Mike likes to carve off the agent thing, revenue, Heath wants to have it in his own line, blah, blah, blah, it's a huge argument between me and Mike, and the reality is, look, you're not going to have agent for service or agent for sales without the AI. So it's just moving.
And Slack is now where it's coming all together, and that is this incredible conversational interface for every app, every agent, every workflow. I'm going to get to a really cool point in a second. When we released this new Slack bot every -- you've got to see it. So you've all got friends or Salesforce employees, take them aside and have them show you Slackbot. And just do whatever query you want and say, "Hey, I'm talking to this customer, I'm talking to that. I tell me this, I -- and you are going to see some incredible things, how it has the ability to search across Salesforce and build agents and create things and do this incredible work on your behalf."
Now I'll tell you -- and I'll just tell you that for me, Slackbot is like chatting with just one of our Ohana that knows everything about Salesforce. So it's pretty awesome, but nearly 90% now of all of the Forbes top 50 AI companies are using Salesforce. Let's just think about that for a second. 90% of all the Forbes top 50 AI companies, those are the Anthropics and Open AIS and the [ blah, blah, blah ] companies, okay, that is our cognition cursor figure AI, okay. They all average about 4 clouds each already. And 80% of them are using Slack to run their business. So if you're with those companies, hey, say, "Hey, show me how you're using Slack. They may not have Slackbot yet because we've only turned it on for a small number of customers who are about to hit the switch and everybody is going to see this employee agent power. So that most people have seen that customer agent power. Now they're going to see the employee agent power. And they're going to see how it's built on Agentforce, how it's built on the apps and how it's built on the data.
Now with all these companies, we're really partnering with them. So we can really leverage the best of what they're building, the frontier models, the agents and even Srini's using the coding agents now. And look, you've heard me say this over the last few years. And we kind of -- Miguel is going to come to this point, but we all know the speed of innovation in the last 3 years as far out seeded the speed of customer adoption and customers have been racing to catch up to what we've been doing. But we do see that changing. And we saw that at Dreamforce. And I know all of you saw that also that customers are really saying, "Yes, I'm going to use this now, I'm going to do this. I'm going to put in my customer agents. I'm going to put my employee agents. I'm going to get my omnichannel supervisor. I'm going to harmonize my data. I'm going to federate my data.
I'm going to upgrade my apps. And customers in production with Agentforce have jumped now 70% year quarter-over-quarter. So customers in production with Agentforce jumped 70% quarter-over-quarter. That's the stats that we're looking for. Great companies like Uber, like Conagra, like LY, like Williams Sonoma, like all these great companies that we've been talking about and the consumption flywheel is gaining traction. In the quarter, more than 50% of new Agentforce bookings as well as 50% of Data 360 in bookings came from existing customers, expanding their investment, which was awesome and really showed adoption.
And we are very focused on adoption more than ever before, especially as an Agentforce. Data 360 is the foundation for every Agentforce deployment, and it's accelerating in Q3. Data 360, the product formerly known as Data Cloud. In Q3, Data 360 ingested 32 trillion records. 32 trillion records, up 119% year-over-year, and that includes 15 trillion through zero-copy data integration up 341% year-over-year. So Dentsu, Moody's, KPMG, Ferguson, Zoom and dozens more invested in Data 360 in the quarter.
And I couldn't be more excited about completing our acquisition of Informatica. It's 3 months ahead of schedule as we like it here at Salesforce. We like things ahead of schedule, and we like them under budget. And I'll tell you, Amit. I know all of you know Amit, his team are great. We're thrilled to have them. And when we were doing the due diligence on the company, and we saw a lot of things in the labs that we're looking forward to bringing to the market because, look, that data layer, and I haven't done the math exactly, but I think if you do some of the math, I think it's about a $10 billion business for us next year now.
When you look at Data 360 plus MuleSoft plus informatica and Mike has got his pencil out trying to figure out if I'm right, but I think I am. When you look at a $10 billion business, that's the first layer, that's data. So Informatica with Data 360 MuleSoft I mean that is taking everything to this new level. And when you get into the world of harmonization integration federation, and then you're trying to deliver it to the AI, the intelligence, the accuracy, the reliability to wipe out the hallucinations, delivering the AI context.
Now we're seeing momentum across multiple sectors. We had incredible wins this quarter, Miguel is going to talk about CVS Health and Telecom Argentina and TD Bank and the IRS, somebody who's going to be getting a big check from all of us, they are all now on Agentforce. So your IRS agents or Agentforce agents and [ NG ] and so many more are becoming agentic enterprises. And Costco, we love Costco. It's -- well, we love all of our retailer friends equally. They are all of our children. But we do love that Costco warehouse experience. It's a great expansion for us in the quarter. We're driving AI and digitization across everything they do for their members. We're doing some incredible things there with Google.
And we worked with Javier, if you don't know, Javier, probably one of the top, I don't know, 5, 1, 2 -- I mean, best CIOs have ever worked with in the whole industry. Was at at Coke? Was at P&G? Was at Mondelez now, somehow Costco got them. I still don't know how Costco got Javier, but congratulations to Costco. So many times, having great results there. So really excited to see these customers, especially these big customers. And of course, we know General Motors, we love Mary, amazing, how one of her new Escalade IQ, she's tired of me telling her how much I love it. Expanding Salesforce across the automotive cloud, Data 360, MuleSoft, Agentforce Sales, Agentforce service. But really cool Agentforce tossed their other collaborative product. We won't talk -- tell you what it is, you probably know the name. And they're now using Slack. So Mary, we're thrilled that you're doing that. We love working with you. You're an incredible CEO, and you're showing the world how to turn an iconic company into an agentic enterprise, great products and great systems and with Agentforce, Mario's speeding up case resolution for her call centers. Slack is now the company's primary communications hub, scaling to 96,000 employees in just 9 months.
Last month, we launched Agentforce IT Service or Agentforce ITSM or you know that what company that we're targeting. We never really went after this before. And then all of a sudden, we realize we have the top service product in the world, and then we've got the top field service product in the world. And customers want this kind of [ trinity ] from us that includes IT service. And for whatever reason, because we had certain people in our company, won't go into the names who didn't want to build it and building that database that drives it.
Well, already, we're selling product and really doing a phenomenal job there. The former CEO of AI [indiscernible] is running this thing. And PenFed went live with ITSM with agents for IT service, and we've got all kinds of customers who've bought products from these competitors who never deployed them or don't like these guys.
Well, guess what? We are going to deliver some incredible capabilities. And we think that -- well, you look at PenFed, I think they went live with agents for IT service as well as member service and collections, they're projecting a 30% reduction in operational expenses and $2 million in savings with this product is killer. So tell your friends who need ITSM, they can get it now from Salesforce and we're seeing incredible momentum also. And here's another competitive situation. In Life Sciences cloud and with Life Sciences cloud, with new bookings tripling year-over-year, always been a strong vertical for us, but we have this partner who decided to become our competitor, Veeva, and we're taking market share from Veeva. They even had to talk about it in their earnings call that they lost all these deals to us, but they have not seen the losses yet that are coming, highlighted by a notable new win at Helion this quarter, but just in the past few months.
More than 120 industry leaders have selected life science cloud. I was talking to the CEO of one of the top 5 life sciences companies just yesterday, he's a good friend of mine. And going to life sciences cloud, all led by the way, with Pfizer and Albert who decided to be the first one and so grateful to him. And it's a great product. It includes 5 of the top -5 of the top 20 pharma companies already, but you're going to see them all use life sciences cloud and most recently, Novartis is gone Salesforce, Life Sciences cloud and, I don't know, all of Takeda, all of them are going to go.
And our Public Sector Solutions ARR also grew 50% year-over-year in Q3, really cool products. I was just in Washington, D.C. last week, mentioned the IRS. I was with the Treasury Secretary. I was with a number of the Cabinet Secretary. All of them are rebuilding what they're doing, reautomating and we want to help all of them, and I'm inspired to see some of the largest, most impactful government agencies running their businesses and their critical workflows and their agents and their data on Salesforce, including the Air Force, Army, Dan Driscol, we're really proud to work with Dan and the Army and just told me came in and delivered his recruiting goals, 9 months early using agent for sales and Department of Agriculture, and of course, we run the whole Veterans Affairs, we've got 120 apps there now. And it used to be a huge problem with Veterans Affairs for the whole country and veterans were not getting the service and support they needed, and we cleaned that up for them.
And as I mentioned also the IRS, but for everyone we're in there, doing our best, and we're delivering at very reasonable cost and on budget and we're not -- we're really excited to be working with the government and helping them to become agentic enterprises. And we're really excited to work with the IRS. I just want to say the office of the Chief Counsel has automated up to 98% of manual activities decreasing the time to fully open a tax court case from 10 days to 30 minutes, another division saving an estimated 500,000 minutes a year retiring multiple legacy systems. And now Agentforce with IRS is going to be able to further optimize automate, accelerate business process across the entire agency. And I just want to congratulate Secretary [ Pason ] for his tremendous leadership and what he's done in transforming the IRS and also all of the treasury.
This week, we launched the U.K.'s first AI police officer. We work with multiple police departments to roll out Bobby. Everybody loves Bobby, it's the Agentforce Service agent that is the public's first point of contact for nonemergency calls and Bobby autonomously provides instant responses on more than 90 topics and police departments have already seen a 20% reduction in nonemergency demand, and they are just getting started, and this is what real enterprise adoption looks like.
No other companies delivering agents of the scale. And when you look at what others in our space are doing, the difference is clear. We're delivering this capability to a global customer base, more than 150,000 Salesforce customers and 1 million companies are now on Slack, now have the immediate opportunity to work side-by-side with agents and Agentforce and the apps are already using every day to become elevated. And that's why we're uniquely positioned for this new area. We have the strategy of the platform, the global scale.
And I would say also our core values very much trust, customer success, quality and sustainability remain very much intact. I also want to thank all of our incredible [ Ohana ] for everything they've done during the quarter to make this quarter so successful, make Dreamforce so successful and all the world tours that are happening and so many great customer stories, but I especially want to thank all of our Ohana who have done 10 million volunteer hours to support the communities where they live and work. It is -- we are so grateful to them. And now I'd like to throw it over to Robin.
Thank you, Marc, and good afternoon, everyone. It was great to see many of you at my first [ reinforces ] as CofO which was unforgettable. The energy was incredible, as Mark just talked about a though the quarter, as you can see from our bookings momentum. We're excited to see our customers' transformation to the Agentic Enterprise accelerate, driven by Growth 360 playbook, including multi-close pricing and packaging, our balanced portfolio and continued innovation. .
I just want to share a few key data points with you. More than 70% of our top 100 wins included 5 or more clouds. In pricing and packaging, new bookings for Agentforce One addition and A for X or as we call it, Agentforce for apps, our most premium SKU doubled quarter-over-quarter. Our consumption flywheel is spinning. Agentforce accounts and production increased quarter-over-quarter. And more than 50% of Agentforce bookings came from existing customers refilling the tanks. Agentforce and Data 360 ARR was up 114% year-over-year. This is inclusive of Agentforce ARR, which is up 330% year-over-year.
Clearly, we have the winning formula here. So let's turn to the results of the quarter. Revenue in the third quarter was $10.26 billion, up 9% year-over-year in nominal and 8% in constant currency, driven by the trifecta of agent force, Data 360 and Agentforce Sales and Service Performance. This was partially offset by a faster-than-anticipated mix shift to cloud for Tableau and on-prem revenue timing in Tableau and MuleSoft.
As we've shared with you before, the on-prem portion of MuleSoft and Tableau revenue is recognized in period, which creates less predictability revenue quarter-over-quarter. Subscription and support revenue grew 10% year-over-year in nominal and 9% in constant currency. Q3 revenue attrition ended the quarter at approximately 8%, in line with recent trends. We delivered another quarter of profitable growth, with Q3 non-GAAP operating margin up 240 basis points and GAAP operating margin up 130 basis points.
The strong performance this quarter was driven in part by timing of expenses and a bad debt expense adjustment based on our strong collection performance. Current remaining performance obligation, or cRPO, ended Q3 at $29.4 billion, up approximately 11% year-over-year in nominal and constant currency, inclusive of a $200 million foreign exchange tailwind. This better-than-expected performance was driven by strong bookings and a modest benefit from early renewals and the timing of on-prem revenue.
And I'm pleased to share that for the first time since fiscal year 2022, net new AOV growth outpaced AOV growth. From a geographic perspective, we saw strong business growth in North America and EMEA, led by France and the U.K., while Asia Pacific was more constrained, particularly in Australia and India. From a segment perspective, we continue to see strong performance in our small and mid-market business and enterprise growth accelerated this past quarter.
From an industry perspective, business services and consultancy, healthcare and life sciences and retail and consumer goods performed well, while comes in media and manufacturing automotive and energy were more measured. As committed, I wanted to quickly update you on the progress we made on our 3 strategic priorities. First, customer success repeating what Mark said, our top priority is accelerating Agentforce and Data 360 adoption. We are relentlessly reallocating our resources to high-growth areas and it's paying off.
Q3 was one of our biggest pipeline generation quarters ever and customers leveraging our forward-deployed engineers are seeing 33% faster deployment times. Second, operational excellence. As Customer Zero, our STR agent, has worked hundreds of thousands of leads, generating tens of millions in incremental pipeline. We see that same velocity with Agentforce on help.salesforce.com, which passed 2 million conversations this quarter. It took 9 months to reach the first million and just half that time to double it, another clear example of our internal consumption flywheel taking off.
The third area I want to cover is responsible capital allocation. Informatica enhances our trusted data foundation, and it will be accretive within 12 months. We also returned more than $4 billion to shareholders in Q3. We continue to see a meaningful opportunity to invest in ourselves and we are on track for a 50% step-up in share repurchases in the second half of this fiscal year.
Turning to guidance. I want to frame our outlook, inclusive of Informatica. To help you model this clearly, where relevant, I'll give our organic performance, layering the acquisition impact and then provide the consolidated figures for Q4 and fiscal year '26. Starting with subscription and support revenue. We are reiterating our fiscal year '26 organic subscription and support growth guidance of approximately 9% year-over-year in constant currency.
This is fueled by continued momentum in Agentforce and Data 360, partially offset by weaknesses in marketing and commerce and the on-prem dynamic for MuleSoft and Tableau, Informatica will contribute approximately 80 basis points of additional growth, resulting in total subscription and support growth of slightly under 10% year-over-year in constant currency.
Turning to total revenue. We are narrowing our fiscal year '26 revenue guidance on an organic basis to $41.15 billion to $41.25 billion, growth of approximately 9% in nominal and 8% in constant currency. This is attributed to a $25 million FX headwind since last quarter and the on-prem dynamic for Tableau and MuleSoft. We anticipate a contribution of approximately 80 basis points from Informatica resulting in fiscal year '26 revenue of $41.45 billion to $41.55 billion or approximately 9% to 10% in nominal and approximately 9% in constant currency.
Before I turn to profitability, I want to highlight that with our current trajectory of net new ALP growth, we project to finish fiscal year '26 with half 2 net new AOV growth ahead of half 2 AOV growth.
Turning to margin. As a result of the close timing of Informatica, we are maintaining our non-GAAP operating margin guidance at 34.1% and adjusting our GAAP operating margin to 20.3%. We are raising our annual guidance on operating cash flow growth to approximately 13% to 14% growth as a result of our strong Q3 bookings performance. We expect capital expenditures to remain slightly below 2% of revenue, resulting in free cash growth of approximately 13% to 14%.
Organic cRPO growth for Q4 is expected to be approximately 11% year-over-year in nominal and 9% year-over-year in constant currency. As a reminder, we are lapping our acquisition of [ OM ] in Q4 FY '25, which represents slightly under 1 point of impact. inclusive of Informatica, we expect cRPO growth of approximately 15% year-over-year in nominal, including a $500 million FX tailwind, resulting in approximately 13% constant currency growth.
Consistent with our Investor Day outlook, we remain on track to reaccelerate revenue in 12 to 18 months. In closing, our momentum is building, fueled by Agentforce. We are executing against our FY '30 framework and investing with discipline, positioning us incredibly well for the future.
Finally, a big thank you to all our employees for their dedication and hard work delivering a successful Q3. I'll turn it back to you, Mike.
Thanks, Robin. And with that, we're going to move to the Q&A portion of our call. Operator, can we please move to the first question.
[Operator Instructions] Your first question will come from Keith Weiss with Morgan Stanley.
2. Question Answer
Congratulations on real quarter. And also great to see you guys putting your money where your mouth is and the accelerated share buybacks, expressing your conviction and sort of the value of Salesforce's stock where it is. I had a question for Miguel and trying to sort of tap into your experience in talking to these large customers because there's still a very big mismatch in the marketplace in terms of what we hear from investors in terms of the expectation that generative AI is going to be [ injurious ] to the SaaS-based application layer that enterprise customers are going to try to build their own functionality or going to try to replace solutions like Salesforce with DIY solutions that they can build around these models versus what we're seeing in the inflection in your business.
So can you talk to us a little bit about what you're hearing from customers in their applicator or a desire, if they have one of building out their own applications versus going to a vendor like Salesforce to try to get to this generative AI functionality or capabilities?
Keith, thank you so much. That's spot-on question and it's the heart. I think it's the heart of the matter. And I think there is a really different perspective on what is really happening. This past quarter, I was in 3 continents, 12 countries, I talk to 400 customers, many one-on-ones, many one to two several dinners. And the reality is very different. There is something very large, very important, and I want to emphasize this, I don't think we've made Marc and Robin enough justice to what is happening right now in front of us. This is -- there is a new very large secular demand trend, which is the agentic enterprise.
Every single company in the world, small, medium, large wants to become an agentic enterprise, some -- at a company that is conversational that is much smarter that empowers employees by giving them extra information that is able to execute autonomously, but also probabilistically on one side when AI wants to execute deterministically when you want the current workflows to be executed.
And this is to increase growth, to reduce costs, to improve customer satisfaction and every customer wants to do it. Now the problem is they've been experimenting. They've been experimenting for 2 years. They've gone from experimentation now to frustration a little bit. And now they are all saying, you know what, this is hard. This is much harder than we thought.
They all want to go to scale because the opportunities, which is a multitrillion market cap opportunity, it's in front of us. The TAM is a multitrillion for us, and they want to go all in, they know it's hard because LLM cannot do this alone. And now to answer your question, the last mile is hard. And last mile is hard because companies need the context.
For enterprise AI to be successful and accurate in the enterprise, you need the context, you need the data, you need the metadata, you need deterministic workflows. You don't want the agents to be essentially executing based on what they found in an LLM, you want the agents to execute in a deterministic way the same workflows that that company had already qualified the apps for the years that humans are already using. And they need AI that is embedded where the humans are. That's why it's so important to have the data with the context to have the apps, the deterministic workflows to have the AI where the humans are and only Salesforce can do that. And we are seeing an incredible increase in demand ahead of us. We are winning. You're seeing the bookings. I'm very proud of the quarter that we delivered. I'm very thankful to my team, the whole employee base as far as I'm also very thankful to our customers and are very thankful to our partners.
Marc, do you want to add anything to that?
No, I think that was great. Thanks, Miguel.
Your next question will come from Raimo Lenshow with Barclays.
Miquel, can I stay on that subject a little bit. You've been expanding the sales -- your sales rep quite a bit, and that's still part of the plan. How do you think about the ramping of those? And how do you also think about productivity for those extra reps coming on? .
I have to credit Marc for that. We had a seminal moment a year ago where we, particularly Marc he saw the demand coming. And he told us let's invest in capacity. Let's also invest in enablement. So I became 6 months ago also the enablement leader for the company. And we have now, today, 20% more capacity in place. We're going to finish the year with 15% more capacity, enabled already, we call it ramped. This is fundamental. It takes 6 to 12 months to -- on average, to ramp ace. We've done all the hard work. exactly at the moment that the demand is coming at us.
So I see the pipelines growing. The top of the funnel is growing. We've never seen a pipe gen quarter like we did in Q3 with essentially very healthy double-digit growth in pipe gen, above our expectations. Next year, pipeline -- open pipeline is, again, double-digit healthy growth on open pipeline, that matching the double-digit healthy growth on enabled capacity. It is very exciting. We are ready to capture the opportunity. And again, this is not just one more cloud that now we are very excited, Agentforce, data cloud is going to have 10%, 20% on the business that we do with every customer.
The Agentic enterprise is a new paradigm. Customers will have -- we'll use Salesforce in a totally different way. They will use Salesforce to be the platform for detailed labor for sales, for service, for marketing and the impact on the way we can monetize those relationships is exponential. It's not linear growth. It's exponential. Robin alluded to that at Investor Day, [ we were ] talking about 3x, 4 times the ability to multiply the monetization on customers because, by the way, they're getting 3 or 4x or 10x more value from our products. I've already seen a lot of examples of companies that had a great relationship with us, had a multi-cloud relationship with us. sales, service, all our core clouds, we're very excited. And then Agentforce and Data Cloud came. They decided to become an agentic enterprise.
They understood the last mile problem, they bet on Salesforce and now the bookings that we do with them, the AOV had doubled, tripled, in some cases, multiplied by 4 and 5, and we are just getting started. We just want to get every single one of our 150,000, 200,000 customers through the agentic enterprise journey. And for each of them, there is going to be a multiplier effect.
Your next question will come from Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
Great. And my congrats on an amazing quarter. Marc, at this point, even without Informatica and now more so with it, you have one of the largest infrastructure businesses in all of software, well over $10 billion in scale What Salesforce's competitive advantage in infrastructure? And how do you not only get credit for it in its own right but leverage these core capabilities to drive the overall company's success?
Really appreciate the question, Brad. I think, number one, I just want to make sure everybody realizes we're not building data centers at Salesforce. We're preserving our gross margins and our cash flow. But we will use the data centers that are being built. And we will take advantage of the lower cost that we're seeing in the market from the incredible build-out of data centers. But yes, you're right. Our data infrastructure is incredible. We call it our data foundation. And I think you realize it composes, as I mentioned, 3 key things: Informatica, Data 360, our data cloud and also MuleSoft.
And together, you're right, I think it will do about $10 billion next year in business. So this is a very significant software business. But it's fundamental, it's key for every one of our customers to move to this data foundation. And we are still at the beginning of that journey with so many of our customers. And one of the keys to it is it's federation. And I just came back from Japan, as I mentioned, one of the most important companies in Japan, other than Salesforce is IBM.
IBM has about 8,000 employees in Japan. We have about 4,000 employees in Japan. We have I think we're the largest software company in Japan right now. And the ability to federate Data 360 to the IBM Mainframe, which is technology that we just introduced in Tokyo 2 weeks ago at world tour that idea that you're running agent force, but it is being fueled by not only the data in Data 360, but simultaneous the data in your IBM Mainframe. So that infrastructure is critical to delivering the AI that is accurate, that is reliable, that is low in hallucinogens. And this is fantastic for the company, and it is not something that is totally independent. It's deeply integrated with everything that we do. So all of our apps, Agentforce, our customer agents, our employee agents, everything is built on this fundamental foundation, I could be more excited about it.
Your next question will come from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
Great. Marc, the halo effect the Agentforce is having. I mean it seems that sales and service were stable at high single-digit growth, Slack accelerated growth. Can you just speak to what you think this is doing for your other clouds and maybe even drilling them the slack resurgence?
Well, you're right on it, Brent. I think that it's an accelerator on the core. And I think that we're -- to address the question that went to Miguel where there was a false narrative that somehow the core is in jeopardy because of these large language models. And while the large language models are very important and they will expand in functionality I'm sure over time, the reality is, is that our ability to take our core applications extend them and deliver another level of value beyond what we were doing before.
Now we had already been doing predictive AI and all the kind of Einstein AI. But now with AgentForce, it's another level, and you could see it really at Dreamforce when we're demoing Agentforce Service with the omnichannel supervisor and the ability for the agent and the humans to interact autonomously. That was just awesome. It's because it's humans and agents and the apps and the data. And that, I think, is what is really driving this forward and it's happening in sales, it's happening in service, it's happening in the Slack and I'm confident it's going to happen in marketing. It's going to happen in commerce.
It's going to happen across every Tableau, across every single product, every single product had to be rebuilt. So that took some time. I'd love for Srini to come in kind of talk about that. But now as we deliver those Agentforce products and you saw each and every one of them at Dreamforce, how far they are Customers are excited to get to that next level. .
Just to come those 2 questions. If you really look at agents, agents need context, really, and they need tools. And what is context, to get context, you need data across the enterprise, some in the company, which is in the platform, some you want to federate it, which is what we call data copy and some through ingest, which is why Informatica case. You need to understand where all the data is in the company. You need a catalog. You need a metadata. You need to organize all these data, and you need tools. This is what is enterprise context. Without having an enterprise context, it's very, very hard. And that's what our data foundation gives with Informatica, MuleSoft and Data 360. On top of that ...
And Srini, you really drill into that because people still don't understand...
So just so you know. Just on ingest, for example, in quarter-over-quarter on Data 360, people have built their lake, just in Data Cloud, our ingest has increased by 38%, and zero-copy has increased by 52% growth in terms of records. But this is unstructured data. So it's just not the structured data. It's all your documents, all your knowledge articles, all your user manuals. That has increased by 109% growth. And then this is how you create create this unified profile or unified product ID, unified customer master, unified account master. That's what a unified context you want in a real-time profile. That's very hard to do.
But just if you have this context, it's not enough. You need the deterministic place for reasoning, where deterministic, where non-deterministic. Then you need the tools, the agents have to take actions. Some of the actions are in Salesforce already, the jobs to be done over 25 years. For each vertical, we have really deep understanding of not just a sales rep does. We know what a sales step does in a financial industry different from what a sales rep does in pharma, which is different from what a sales rep does in a telecommunications industry.
So that's the jobs to be done. Imagine you need the context, you need the jobs to be done, you need the tools. And sometimes you have back-end systems where you need those APIs. That's why MuleSoft is very important. Now if you just think these 3 are enough, it's not enough because once you go live, you need an eval, you need to know how the agents are performing. You need auditing, you need compliance. You need local data residency tools. This is what we are finding enterprises yourself are realizing that it's good news actually for me. When I talk to CIOs, I see 2 types. People who are really advanced who are visionaries who started 2 years back, do it yourself. they really understand the pain point. They are the ones who are moving fast to the platform. And then there are some people who still think they can do it and we'll convert them over years. So I see people who have -- who know what it takes and so they know the day to day 3 problems and some people who still think.
So to do this, it was not easy, correct? You had to build a platform. So 4 years back, we started with a Hyperforce layer. Then we created a data layer. We have to pull the data lake, a lake warehouse that's what Data 360 was. We rebuilt the entire infrastructure on the platform, on the hyperscalers, we have to rewrite our entire metadata layer to do not thousands of records but millions of objects. Then we had to rewrite all our applications. Our core sales. It's no longer a Sales Cloud, it's agent for sales. So because when I talk to Miguel, he doesn't just want a sale, he wants to transform his function into agent sales function and even on on customer success.
So my job is not to do customer success. I want to write a agentic customer success. This is why help.salesforce.com is important. That's what you're seeing. So imagine each of these applications are changing. But this framework is hallowing another thing. When we started doing ITSM, normally it would have taken a long time. But because we had the foundation of the data layer, the agent force layer, the metadata layer, suddenly building an agentic ITSM became very easy and that's what you are trying to see the leverage, same with life science cloud. So we're not trying to build the regular way, but this took time. And now that we have this customer success you are seeing, this is what is going to make it a differentiator, and that's our promise to our customers.
One more right thing is our customers 2 years back, they would ask me, what model are you supporting, where is it, what hyperscale you run. They don't ask me any of those things now because we abstract all that complexity for them. That's the original promise of Salesforce when we said no software. Basically, that's what it is. We bring the customers to the future. We want to help our customers go to the agentic enterprise. And that's what we are doing.
And all our forward deployment motions with our own PS services, with our customer success team, also with our SI partners, heavily invested with Accenture, Deloitte, PwC and other global partners to really ensure that we also jointly partner with them and in a lot of places, we are co-selling them. They're having combined [ FD ] train. And this together is what it takes to generate the agentic enterprise. And that's how all these points we are trying to tie together. Hopefully, that answers your question.
Your next question will come from Kirk Materne with Evercore Partners.
Congrats on the momentum around Agentforce force. Miguel, I think this one's for you. When Agentforce first came out, there was a lot of questions from partners, customers about pricing, just confusion, trying to get a handle on that. It seems with the momentum, people are more comfortable with that. And sort of the second part of there's still a lot of concern among investors about as Agentforce helps customers maybe keep headcount stable or even lower headcount in certain areas. How does Salesforce monetize in that kind of situation. And I was wondering if you could just touch upon that a little bit because I think that would be helpful to people to understand how AOV grows even in, say, a stable or declining headcount situation. .
Thank you so much. Listen, Agentforce is at the heart of the agentic enterprise transformation. The momentum that we saw in Q3 is pretty significant, is unheard of, is beyond our expectations. And I want to differentiate between momentum on the bookings, okay? Bookings is one part of the equation. The hardest part of the equation is the adoption. Now on bookings, we saw the numbers of the 70% more customers in production.
I think there is one statistic that we haven't mentioned, which is very powerful. We said that 50% or more of the bookings came from customers refilling the tank. Robin alluded to that. But I don't know if you remember 2 quarters ago, I was super excited. I had to dig very deep to find that 3 customers came and refill the tank in Q1. In Q3, 362 customers refill the tank. That's an incredible testimony of the success that Agentforce is having in a very short time frame.
Now the other thing that we've learned is pricing matters. It's very complex. We've gone long ways. We've had different ways of pricing the product. And now I think we have the whole portfolio of different commercial frameworks to meet customers where they are where they want to be. My favorite one, of course, is the [ extreme ]. Those customers that are really determined to become an agentic enterprise before their peers in their industry, they realized that the last mile is very hard. They know that Salesforce is the last mile with humans with the apps, with the data and the context, they go all in with us.
And they ask Miguel. We don't want to be trapped here in 2 or 3 years because consumption, we used to have 10 different metrics, make it easy for us. And we went to them and we tell them, "Listen, give me a fluffy, we'll give you -- we pull all the power, all the power of Salesforce, including [ FDs ] from Srini and we will deliver the Agentic Enterprise promise. We have actually a point of view for every industry that includes hundreds of agents that have already been defined. We have a database of agents with their roles, with their workflows that they have to trigger on how they configure them. And we have the Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase 3 and customers just buy on [ ILS ].
We did 16 ILS in agentic enterprise license agreement. In Q3, we have about 100 ILs in the pipeline, and all these are multimillion-dollar deals and it is very exciting, but it gives the customer the predictability that they need. Now there are other customers that are more cautious, and they -- I'm going to do the extreme...
drill in here. so here, we have this enterprise license agreement we call the agentic enterprise license agreement. When we first started with Agentforce, we were talking about, oh, it's going to be so much per conversation. It was this type of pricing may be transaction-based pricing, usage-based pricing, but customers have pushed for more flexibility we've moved fast to that. How has that really hit the market, explain why that is so important for customers? .
Because Marc, good question by the way. You and me came up with the [ AELA ] concept when we visited a few customers in Europe from Unilever to P&I We had great conversations. And we realized that they wanted to move. They wanted to transform, but they were afraid about all these metrics, consumption, et cetera. So we -- what we're doing now is very simple. We are putting the whole menu of options to them. We also have a very successful SKUs that we launched, which are Agentforce for sales or Agentforce for service that are seat-based SKU. People talk about seat versus consumption-based pricing. The reality is there are a lot of customers that want to seat based because seat-based gives you the predictability.
So we've sold a lot of seat-based licenses for Agentforce and data cloud in Q3. In fact, that SKU has doubled year-on-year. It's very massive success there. And -- but we also have customers from the beginning that they want to just pay per conversation or per agentic actions. So we have the whole portfolio, and we are meeting and I love the sentence that Robin illuminated me with a while ago is we are meeting customers where they are. Every customer is a different point in their journey. So pricing is not -- we put pricing away from the table. And by the way, we also have flex pricing.
If customers are -- now going to the second part of the question. If customers are worried, okay, I don't want to invest here too much because I already have my service agents in this -- in the call centers and my sales people and what if that reduces, we have flex agreements where if you decide that because the future of agentic is human and agents working together. In most companies, humans are also going to increase.
But if they decrease in some areas, you redeploy them but they may not need a license as far as well, you can use that payment to Salesforce into credits, into an AELA or into a seat-based license. So we have the full flexibility. Now humans and agents I think you guys always ask the same thing on whether the number of seats is increasing, the price is increasing. Well, for our clouds, we are seeing both increasing, which is exciting. And we have the flexibility for customers if they want to move investment from one area to the other. So far, we are seeing that the power of the agentic enterprise is when agents augment humans and they work together side by side with humans.
Great. Thanks, Kirk. Operator we'll take last question, please.
Your last question will come from Brad Sills with Bank of America.
Wonderful. Marc, a question for you. I remember at the analyst meeting that we had at Dreamforce. You referred to some efforts to kind of get back to the basics and in the sales channel in pipeline. I think you had mentioned that there were -- the leads were there, but you weren't watering the leads or the seeds were there, you weren't watering the seeds. I would love it if you could elaborate on that effort to kind of focus back on kind of back to the basics lead generation -- what impact that has had on the pipeline.
Okay. Well, I think that maybe this is our greatest accomplishment of the year. Of course, Srini has done a phenomenal job as well as Steve and the entire technology team in building an Agentforce. There's no question, the product is more exciting than ever before. We went through this in detail today. But I think that probably the most exciting thing that we have done this year from my perspective is not only have we delivered this incredible piece of technology, but we've radically enhanced the capacity of the distribution organization at a level that we have not done in years.
This is very important, not for this year, but for the subsequent years. And this investment that we made this year in the capacity is going to pay off across all 6 segments. I just want you to remember Salesforce sells to companies, zero to 200 employees, 200 to 1,000, 1,000 to 5,000, 5,000 above the, U.S. government and across our ecosystem or the software industry. And to really address all 6 segments, it's critical for us to have the capacity to do that. Miguel, what is your total capacity increase for the year so far?
20 -- as of today, 23%.
About 23% capacity increase. And then we do 4 critical things. Not only have we delivered more capacity, we have, as Miguel said, train them, enable them. Obviously, these concepts that we're talking about a agentic Enterprise we've created this. We're envisioning this. We're defining what the future is with this. So we have to enable them and train and give them the ability to deliver that in every one of these market segments.
Number two, that core capacity, we have to look at that across every single one of those segments. Several of those segments are delivering mid-double-digit growth at a level that we have not also seen in years. Huge shock to us. And we really think that so many of these segments are just on fire and doing incredibly well. And then three is we have to link the compensation plans of these incredible sellers to these goals, all the goals that you've kind of heard as outlined in the script. And the last thing is we measure the participation of each seller across each segment across each geo, across every operating unit and find out why are they selling or why are they not selling this product and this geography in this segment. So it's a radical level of management. I would say that our ability to do that today far exceeds where we were even just 3 or 4 years ago.
And Miguel, I think, is done a phenomenal job in making that happen. And I think that when we're running the largest Salesforce in software industry, which is what we have and the ability to deliver that across all of these segments with what I think is the most competitive piece of software we have ever had across every industry, every geography, across every segment, it's a Herculean task. And Q3 you look at these numbers and you saw we were guiding, I think, that we were going to do 9% CRPO growth, and it went to 11% because Miguel crushed it. And I'm really excited about Q4, but especially, I'm excited about fiscal year '27 and fiscal year '28, because of the capacity increases that we're making now.
Well, thank you, Brad, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to seeing everyone over the coming weeks. Take care.
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Salesforce — Q3 2026 Earnings Call
Salesforce — Q3 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $10,26 Mrd. (+9% YoY; +8% in konstanter Währung)
- Operative Marge: Non‑GAAP Betriebsmarge 35,5% (Verbesserung gegenüber Vorjahr)
- cRPO: $29,4 Mrd. (current remaining performance obligation) (+11% YoY); RPO ~ $60 Mrd. (+12% YoY)
- Cashflow: Operativer Cashflow $2,3 Mrd. (+17% YoY), Free Cash Flow $2,2 Mrd. (+22% YoY)
- Agentforce & Data: ARR Agentforce+Data ~ $1,4 Mrd. (+114% YoY); Agentforce‑ARR ~ $540 Mio. (+330% YoY)
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Agentic Enterprise: Salesforce positioniert Agentforce (Customer & Employee Agents) als Kernangebot; Management sieht starke Nachfrage und breiten Einsatz über Sales, Service, Slack und ITSM.
- Datenfundament: Kombination Data 360 (früher Data Cloud), MuleSoft und Übernahme Informatica soll Federierung/Harmonisierung von Daten liefern und AI‑Genauigkeit erhöhen.
- Vertriebskapazität: Deutliche Investitionen in Vertrieb/Enablement (+~20–23% Capacity) zur Skalierung der Pipeline und schnellen Marktdurchdringung.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Wachstum: Bestätigte organische Subscription-&-Support‑Wachstumsprognose FY‑26 ~+9% in konstanter Währung; Konsolidiert inkl. Informatica knapp unter +10%.
- Umsatzrange: Organic FY‑26 Total Revenue $41,15–41,25 Mrd.; konsolidiert $41,45–41,55 Mrd. (Informatica ≈ +80 Basispunkte).
- Margen & Cash: Non‑GAAP‑Marge gehalten bei 34,1%; GAAP‑Marge angepasst auf 20,3%; operativer Cashflowwachstum nun ~13–14%; CapEx <2% des Umsatzes.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Build vs. Buy: Analysten fragten, ob Kunden eigene AI‑Stacks bauen; Management betont "letzte Meile" (Kontext, Daten, deterministische Workflows) als Vorteil für Salesforce‑Plattform.
- Monetarisierung & Pricing: Nachfrage nach Flex‑Modelle: Agentic Enterprise License Agreements, seat‑ und consumption‑SKUs; Management: Portfolio reduziert Kunden‑Unsicherheit und unterstützt AOV‑Wachstum.
- Skalierung & Produktivität: Fragen zur Ramp‑Zeit neuer Verkäufer; Antwort: Capacity+Enablement reduziert Ramp‑Time, Pipeline‑Generierung stark, mittel‑/langfristig Hebel auf Umsatzwachstum.
⚡ Bottom Line
Starkes Quartal mit klarer AI‑Narrative: Agentforce treibt Buchungen, Nutzung und ARR‑Wachstum; Data‑Assets (inkl. Informatica) sollen Differenzierer für verlässliche, kontextgetriebene AI bleiben. Guidance bleibt konservativ konsolidiert, aber Management sieht Reaccelerierungspotenzial durch Vertriebs‑ und Produkthebel. Für Aktionäre: Wachstum bleibt vorhanden, Fokus verschiebt sich zunehmend auf AI‑Monetarisierung und Datenplattform‑Skaleneffekte; Risiken sind On‑Prem‑Timing, Regionenheterogenität und Wechselkurse.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our session today, a topic that all of us can perhaps relate to as employees. Employee Support is Broken, Here's How to fix It with AI. So in our session today, we'll explore how AI can transform HR support, one, by elevating the employee experience with faster personalized answers for HR tasks and inquiries. And two, by freeing overwhelmed HR representatives from high volume, low effort, admin tasks so that they can focus on strategic initiatives that drive organizational success. So before we begin today, here are some forward-looking statements to take note of. Since we are covering some of our road map content today, please note that any purchasing decisions are to be made based on what is currently available only.
And thank you so much for taking time out of your day today to tune in and to listen to us on this webinar. My name is Shruthi Prakashan, and I lead Product Marketing in India for Service Cloud. Today, I'm joined by our product team. I have Deval Marolia, Senior Product Manager for the HR Service product; and also Avni Karan, who's a product manager on the HR Service product. So through the course of our webinar today, should you have any questions, please do feel free to put them in the chat. We will get to them as we progress. Please do not wait until the end. And you also have reaction buttons that you can see on your screen. So please do feel free to engage with us using those reaction buttons. This is the agenda that we have for you today. We'll begin by speaking about the current state of the employee experience and the opportunity for HR service. We'll then go over a product deep dive that Avni will walk us through and a very interesting demo that Deval will walk us through.
Followed by this is a section on how we are using this very innovation internally in Salesforce and the outcomes that we've seen so far so that you can take advantage of all the lessons that we've learned implementing this solution.
So with that, let's begin with a quick reality check. Across organizations today, our questions around, say, benefits, policies and procedures is increasingly becoming a cumbersome and a time-consuming exercise that involves multiple tools, disparate knowledge bases and various communication channels.
Now I want everyone to just take a moment to think about a recent time that you had to find a simple piece of HR information. Think about how many systems did you really end up navigating and how long did it take for you to find that information. And as you're thinking through, feel free to engage with us on chat, right? I'd love to see some of your comments on what were you trying to find, how long did it take for you to find it. And consider these everyday scenarios on the slide here, things like how much PTO do I have left or say, what training courses are available to me or I need an employee verification letter. All of these are questions that should ideally be 30-second answers. But instead, what they become are 20-minute interruptions that not only break an employee's focus but also drain productivity. So when you think about how this impacts every single employee in an organization, you'll recognize that this isn't just a minor inconvenience anymore. So this is a breakdown of the employee experience that affects people in your organization every single day.
So with that context, I'd love to hear from you, audience. Take a few minutes to go through this -- let's go through this poll. You have 5 options to choose from. Let us know how would you rate the ease of finding HR information in your organizations today. We have 5 options all the way from very easy to very difficult. We just did this exercise of thinking about a recent scenario, use that and let us know, share with us how easy do you think it is to find HR information in your organization today. I'm going to stay on that for a few seconds, audience as you respond to us.
This is a great opportunity to also learn from the other attendees that we have today on the webinar. So please take some time to give us your response. You should be able to select one of the answers, very easy to somewhat easy and what other options do we have, neutral to somewhat difficult or very difficult. So with that, let's see what all of you feel. This is not very surprising, right? So we have a fair mix of answers here and a fair amount of somewhat difficult to very difficult. So let's see then that what research says, right? Close to 88% of staff agree that a frustration-free digital experience is key to their happiness and productivity. Because as employees, because we are exposed to seamless digital experiences in our everyday lives as consumers, employees have come to expect the same at their workplaces as well, right?
So -- and here's where things get compelling. Our HR leaders are taking note, right? A recent Gartner research shows that 76% of HR leaders today believe that their organizations risk falling behind without AI adoption in the next 12 to 24 months. If you think of it, [ 12 to 24 ] months is not a very long time window, right, with 44% HR leaders indicating that they will start using AI agents as soon as in the next 12 months. So you will notice that this is no more -- this is no longer just about keeping up with trends, but it's about competitive survival. It is about being able to hire and retain employees. So HR leaders are strategically planning their investments in 4 key areas, right? One, unifying knowledge systems across the organization. Second, building unified employee views, right, creating that employee 360, where you have everything you need to know about a particular employee. Third, AI-enabled real-time intelligence that enables the organizations to make those quick, accurate decisions.
And lastly, assistive AI agents that come with prebuilt skills, and we're going to spend a fair amount of time today talking about that. So we've established the problem, and we've seen that there is a certain amount of urgency when it comes to organizations. So here's the solution. In the agentic era, AI agents and humans partner to improve employee experiences. So instead of thinking of AI as just another tool, think of it as an expansion to your workforce. So let's explore what that looks like across 4 key personas, right? Let's start with the HR operations rep. So the HR operations rep requires things like case summarization or drafting quick replies or even fetching from knowledge articles and so on so that this frees them to solve more complex issues.
Second, when it comes to employees, employees require that 24/7 self-service ability so that they don't have to depend on raise a ticket, wait, right, but with automatic escalation in place wherever required. Third, HR leaders need automation and real-time analytics to help them make these strategic decisions with speed. And lastly, managers require quick and seamless access to an employee's performance history, to the promotion policies, their team's goals for the year, for example, the feedback and so on. So now that we've established how the potential for Agentic AI and how it can transform HR service, I'm going to hand it over to Avni Karan, who will walk us through a product deep dive. Over to you, Avni.
Thank you, Shruthi, and thank you, everyone, for joining with us today. To start with, today, employee expectations are changing faster than ever. People want answers instantly, support proactively and growth continuously. But HR seems stretched, managers are overwhelmed and employees spend too much time hunting for information instead of doing meaningful work. Now digital labor is changing all of that. Across the employee life cycle, we have introduced intelligent agents. Employee gets an employee agent that supports day-to-day needs. For example, what's my pay date, submit my reimbursement. All of these actions, employee agent can cater to today.
From onboarding to relocation, benefits to offboarding, the agent simplifies every interaction. Managers get a manager agent that drives productivity and leadership effectiveness. It reminds them to approve time off, helps them review performance, supports compensation decisions and even drafts feedback and development conversations. Similarly, candidates get a candidate agents that makes hiring feel human and modern. Now this is not just about answering questions. It's about driving outcomes. Employees complete onboarding faster. Managers become better coaches, not paperwork administrators. HR spends time on people and not just ticket queues. Now an insight into HR service solution.
So as you saw previously, Shruthi mentioned that there are multiple systems employee navigates to in search of information or to get tasks done. But today, employees expect fast, accurate and personalized HR support. Salesforce HR service delivers exactly that and in the flow of work. With Agentforce connected to your knowledge base, employees are instantly guided to the right answer, which is reducing wait time as well as boosting employee satisfaction. HR teams get productivity gains through intelligent case management and productivity tools that help them scale self-service effortlessly. It is also helping them automate routine tasks and focus on strategic work that matters.
By integrating with your HCM, Salesforce HR service delivers personalized data-driven support from one place, empowering HR to provide consistent service across employee life cycle. Now you can imagine the impact that HR can bring to their employees and to the organization. Now the outcome is powerful. Employees stay engaged and productive. HR operates with great efficiency and insight and the entire organization benefits from a more connected empowered workforce driven by Agentforce Intelligence. Now a fun fact. Salesforce has seen 96% case reflection across internal HR support, proving that AI-powered, knowledge grounded, agentic HR transforms employee experiences and operational efficiencies. So we have a success story already.
Now moving on, Agentforce for HR service. So this is an AI agent that works fully autonomously to take actions on employee-facing support task. It responds to your employees across channels, for example, Slack, Teams, portals, et cetera, 24 hours a day in conversational language that's tailored to your brand's voice, tone and guidelines. It's grounded in your trusted data, your knowledge base and your CRM data and protected by the Einstein Trust Layer. So you can be rest assured that it will quickly deliver the right answer to your employees. It can execute HR processes and requests like selecting your benefits or applying for a corporate card by seamlessly integrating with HR tools like Workday, SAP SuccessFactors and in future Oracle as well.
So you can set up HR service agent in minutes using prebuilt service-specific templates and existing Salesforce objects like Flows. You can even create custom actions that are specific to your business with Agentforce. Now with our suite of prebuilt topics and actions that allow customers to build employee agent that can answer employees' HR questions in natural language, manage employee support cases and execute HR processes like expense or profile or direct deposit, et cetera. So we are powering our HR persona here. Plus, you can define clear parameters for your agent to follow and seamlessly escalate to a human when an inquiry is out of scope.
That's the power of having your AI agent on Salesforce platform. With your AI, data, CRM and trust on one platform, you're able to increase productivity, reduce costs and improve the employee experience. So at its core, HR service is your front door to employee support, built to help employees get answers, get things done and get help, all in one place. Now let's break it down. First, there's employee portal. Employee logs in, finds information, takes action, for example, like requesting a PTO, updating personal details or submitting a relocation request and if needed, open a support ticket. At Salesforce, we have our own employee portal called Basecamp, a one-stop hub for onboarding, time off benefits and every key employee moment. It gives employees clarity and self-service without having to hunt across multiple subsystems. Then we have our HR service console.
This is where HR teams work. It's designed for specialists, HR BPs and shared services teams to support employees across any channels, Slack, e-mail portals, et cetera, you name it. It gives a complete view of employee events, milestones and cases so HR can track transitions smoothly, all with the context needed to support employees efficiently and consistently. This is what we call an employee 360 view. From there, we layer in AI productivity tools. Think knowledge suggestions, automated e-mail drafting, smart routing, every HR specialist need to respond faster and with confidence. It reduces manual work and ensures employees get accurate answer.
Now we understand most organizations run one or the other HCM systems, and you need that data to flow into Salesforce to power that experience. That's where MuleSoft comes in. MuleSoft connects all your HR systems with prebuilt connectors and reusable APIs, so you can unify employee experience without tripping and replacing your HRIS. This further powers the HR console and makes a richer employee 360 view. And finally, the breakthrough, the Agentforce HR service agent. Now just to recap, this is your always-on AI HR assistant, a digital labor teammate for HR. It chats with employees in natural brand-aligned language across channels. It pulls answers from your knowledge base and HR data. And it doesn't just answer question, it can take action, update employee details, trigger benefit enrollments, et cetera. And when something requires human, like a sensitive employee relations issue, the agent follows guardrail and seamlessly routes it to specialist HR.
Moving on, coming to our road map. Now as we think about the future of HR service, our goal is simple: bring autonomous digital labor to every stage of the employee journey across every system, persona and channel. Starting in October 2025, we expand our agent capabilities beyond core employee service. Actions like time off, profile updates, direct deposit and expense support, we have started with Workday, a new channel with Slack. Employees shouldn't have to go to portal to get support. By bringing Agentforce into Slack, we meet employees where they already operate every day. We extend our integration with SAP SuccessFactors and introduce PTO agent. So leave request works seamlessly regardless of your HRIS. Case management, along with general Slack actions like summarizing the channel or creating a channel, we support employee inquiries and workflows end-to-end.
Moving into February 2026, we address deeper and more sensitive HR workflows. AI to human handoff, ensuring the agent escalates intelligently through nuanced cases, new channels in Microsoft Teams, expanding coverage beyond Slack, employee relations, case automation, sensitive cases like harassment, discrimination or workplace concerns requiring privacy, auditability and legal rigor. Agentforce support, case intake, routing, confidentiality workflows and follow-up while always ensuring human is in the loop. This is a major trust milestone. Service assistant for HR reps, giving HR specialists an AI copilot inside the console.
It will summarize employee history, drug responses, pull insights from tickets and docs, guide reps to complex workflows. Our payroll agent with ADP and Paychex will handle payroll inquiries and updates automatically. And then looking ahead to our future. We unlock full workflows -- workforce life cycle automation. Now agents for candidates, pre-hires and alumni from scheduling interviews to provisioning access to offboarding task, we are automating the moments that matter across the talent continuum, not just hiring. Extend system integrations with Oracle HCM, DocuSign, Okta, UKG Pro and more, we're ensuring Agentforce can connect across every core HR system. That means companies don't need to rip and replace tools. We make their fragmented HR stack [ fleet ] unified and intelligent.
Now coming to demo, I hand it off to Deval to walk us through a demo of our product.
Hi, everyone. First of all, I would like to thank Shruthi and Avni for leading the presentation for HR service product. And just reintroducing myself, I'm Deval. I'm part of the Salesforce HR service representing on this webinar as a Senior Product Manager. And just a quick recap of what Shruthi and Avni have tried to cover. So Avni covered like the various types of problems that the HR leaders today face and the employees faced with respect to disparate systems and ability to access various types of data on various systems and having a next level of employee experience, especially the expectations are higher now with the advent of technology and Gen AI, right?
And then Avni spoke about the HR service solution, like how we deliver the agentic HR support in the flow of work. Also about the Agentforce for HR service, how the autonomous AI agent can resolve employee cases with natural responses that are grounded in trusted data, right? And then the recipe that brings the agentic HR service to life, that is the employee portal, the HR service console and the HR service, right? So I'm going to now walk you guys through a demo where we will try to cover multiple personas. The aim of this demo is to give the audience an idea about like how various personas that are part of an organization like from an HR admin to an employee to a manager who might have various types of preferences depending on the organization, how that experience can be taken to the next level with the help of Agentforce.
So let me quickly start. Cool. So an AI agent that works fully autonomously to take action on employee-facing support task, you can set up the agent in minutes using prebuilt service-specific templates and existing Salesforce objects like Flows. You can even create custom actions that are specific to your business needs, right, using low code. This comes with a prebuilt set of topics and actions. And this answers employees' HR questions in natural language. It can manage employee support cases, execute HR processes and requests like expense profile, direct deposit that can connect with third parties and also deploy anywhere, like when we say deploy anywhere, what we really mean is, let's say, if you engage with your employees on portal, you can deploy it on portal.
If your employees like to -- in your organization, if your employees like to use Slack, they can deploy it on Slack. And then also, if you don't use portal and Slack, you can also deploy on Microsoft Teams, right? So it responds to your employees across channels in conversational language that's tailored to your brand's voice, tone and guidelines. You can configure your organization details like language of preference, et cetera. You can also define clear parameters for your agent to follow and seamlessly escalate to human when an -- let's say, when an inquiry is kind of out of scope, right?
Now let's look at another persona, right? So imagine a company called Freight Logistics and then you have Rishi Rai, who is an employee, who's just received an e-mail about an annual data conference in New York, right? And he needs to share some details with his travel coordinator, some specific department and employee details with his travel coordinator, right? So Rishi is an employee who likes to work in Slack. The organization Freight Logistics has already deployed in this case an HR agent that is kind of connected to a third-party system. I mean, when we say connected, what do we really mean is the agent topics and action can connect to third-party systems -- to third-party FCM system like SAP SuccessFactors or a Workday to kind of fetch or get the data, right? So in this natural conversation flow, Rishi just types directly in the HR agent window, like can you help me confirm my employee ID and exact department name?
HR agent in real time can fetch this data either from Salesforce Core or like a third party with which your agent action is connected, right? And give it on a plate to Rishi. Now Rishi, while he's there, he thinks, I'm traveling to New York, why don't I also meet my family and friends, right? So he goes and checks what is my leave balance. So HR agent in real time, again, this time gets his real-time lead balance. And it's not just getting data. Rishi can also request for a leave, right? So now you are saying 2 things. It can get data for Rishi, answer Rishi's question. At the same time, it can also kind of create a request on behalf of Rishi, right?
And then organizations can configure this according to their policies, their fulfillment flows, their approvals, right? But let's say, there is another company like Alpine and there is another employee who does not use Slack, but they prefer to use MS Teams, right? In that case, we will show you a small snippet of how the similar type of Agentforce conversation can be used on MS Teams. And in this case, in this example, we are simply showing how an employee can put a simple query or get data about the status of their last travel expense, right? It's just a small snippet to tell you that it not just works on Slack, but also MS Teams. And the third one, we have Katie from Alpine, who is a manager. She does not prefer to use Slack or Teams, but she prefers to spend time on the employee portal.
And in this case, she wants to check the promotion eligibility of her team, right? So what she does is simply in the natural conversational flow by using the embedded chat that's available that powers the Agentforce on the portal. She can simply go and type like she wants to check the promotion eligibility. And in this case, because the agent has the context of Katie being the manager, it asks like a follow-up question like for which particular employee or which particular reportee you want to check this, right? And when she says she wants to check it for a particular reportee called Sharon, it gets the data from the performance evaluation system, gives it on a platter in a nice format to Katie, who's the manager and not just that. The agent also prompts the manager if they would like to recommend or put a request, put a promotion request for her reportee, that Sharon, right?
So all in all, what we are trying to show here is that with various personas like the HR admin, we had Rishi who was using Slack from Freight Logistics. We had Katie who is a manager in Alpine, who was using employee portal. And then we also saw one snippet of an employee using MS Teams, right? So what essentially we're trying to say is depending on your organization's use case, depending on your organization's preferences and depending on your -- on the kind of queries or real-time execution of processes that your organizations want your employee to do through the Agentforce, they can -- you can kind of configure the agent in that fashion, right? So before I hand it over to Shruthi, I'd just like to cover this one more slide like why we are -- we think you should choose HR service that's powered by Agentforce, right?
So we know that the employee experience gap is widening. And we have many HR leaders on this webinar. So we know that HR leaders have kind of a narrow window to close this employee experience gap. And you do not want your employees or you do not want your organization to lose productivity, right? Or in that -- for that matter, even you don't want to lose your talent to competitors who have already transformed how they support their workforce, right? So here's how HR service can help you close that gap sooner, right? So personalizing employee service at scale through human AI agent partnerships, unifying disparate data within its integration first design, automating processes with built-in rules, right? And then underlying all this is trust that's built with the goodness of Einstein Trust Layer, that is security and privacy, which is critical when dealing with sensitive employee data, right?
So with that slide, I will pass it back to my friend and colleague, Shruthi.
Thank you. Thanks for that, Deval. I do want to talk a bit about that demo that you showcased. But before that, the audience, I'd love to do a quick check at this point, which of these HR use cases would you as a HR leader or an employee for that matter, prioritize. Which of these is important for you if you were to deliver AI-assisted agentic workflows. If you think a moment about if you were going to use AI to transform your HR service, which one of these would be a priority. You will see that you can select multiple of them. So please pick all that you think matters, right? Quickly, let's walk through these options here. One, employee self-service, right, benefits, policies, enablement. We saw some of those use cases today that Deval walked through. Second, HR operations, right, case management and providing your HR persona that ability to solve cases faster or even not get those cases in the first place, right? Talent development.
And fourth, integrations, right? Integration is an area that the HR service solution by Salesforce performs brilliantly, right? We integrate with all the systems that you already have. And this is critical for a HR service solution because you don't want to lift and shift your data, right? You essentially want to integrate with all that you already have. And lastly, talent acquisition, right? Is that an area where you see agentic workflows helping you. So while you take a moment audience, please answer that. And once you've answered that, feel free to send us a reaction that you have. While you're doing that, I want to just quickly pivot back to the demo that we just saw, Deval. Thank you for walking us through that.
To me, I think what stood out about the demo was just how the employee Rishi Rai, I think Rishi Rai, never had to leave Slack to get what they wanted, right, or even Teams for that matter, if the organization uses Teams. To me, it almost felt like they were conversing with their colleague, right? Just asking help for something that you're stuck on, much like we would do today when we are chatting with our colleague to ask for some question, right? So I'm sure all of us today, the audience today is able to contrast what we saw in this demo with your everyday experience as employees and reflect what it would be like to have that conversational support built right into your flow of work, right? So with that, thank you for taking your time out to answer.
This is very helpful for us as we gather more feedback and as we refine our product further. So I deeply appreciate you taking time out to respond to that poll. So this brings us to the last section, right? And this is my favorite section in any webinar to walk through, quite honestly. So now you might be thinking, okay, all of this sounds great in theory, right? We walked through a lot of use cases. We spoke a lot of agentic, but does it actually work in practice, right? Or is this just information on the road map, right? So that's why this is my favorite section. So let me share something very powerful with all of you. So one unique thing about Salesforce is that we just don't build Agentforce for HR. We just don't build it as a product. We live it, right? So as customer zero, we've deployed this exact solution across our own organization, and those results have been transformative.
And I'd like to share some of that with you today. So here's how the slide that you see here today, that sort of shows how this whole thing comes together on Salesforce. So Agentforce sits embedded right inside Slack and our employees portal called Basecamp, which Avni referred to when she was walking through her section. So Basecamp is our employee-facing portal, which is not just HR, but also IT support, right? So Agentforce sits right in Slack and on Basecamp, where employees already work today, right? They don't necessarily have to go to a different system just to find things. So the beauty really is in the simplicity, right? So employees ask their questions in natural language, much like how they're used to using ChatGPT or any of your favorite generative AI tools.
And the employee service agent searches our knowledge base and our knowledge base, like any other company, is spread across multiple systems, right? So the employee service agent searches that knowledge base, pulls data from multiple connected systems to provide instant accurate answers. Notice another critical element to the right on this slide, you will see guardrails and human escalation, right? So when Agentforce encounters something complex or sensitive, right -- and there is bound to be some sensitive questions when it comes to dealing with people, right? So when an Agentforce encounters something like that, it seamlessly escalates that to our expert HR professionals. So what I want you to take away is that we're not replacing human judgment.
We're amplifying human capacity by handling the routine, right? By making sure that we're handling all of these routine admin tasks, you're freeing up time for your HR to get to what they do best, which is empathy and understanding what the employees need. So we saw how that works. Let me walk you through some of the results, right? The results do speak for themselves, and I think this was transformative when we saw it. So 40% of cases today are handled autonomously, and we've resolved over close to 10,000, right, over 9,500 cases early in the process with some real savings and reduced HR workload by up to 50% in some areas. And the numbers according to me, tell only half the story. What's even more valuable are the lessons that we learned as customer zero. And this is what we'd like to share with our customers as they go on their agentic journey, right?
First, start narrow and scale gradually, right? What really worked for us was to pick specific use cases, perfect them and then expand them, right? That's the first point that you see on the right side of the slide today on the lessons learned. The second one is that guardrails are absolutely critical, right? These are not nice-to-have features. They are essentially handling very sensitive employee data, so they must ensure compliance. So guardrails are absolutely critical. Third, clean data plus quality content is what equals accuracy. We learned that having tons of information on the data isn't enough, right? That data needs to be curated, it needs to be current and it needs to be consistent. And finally, agents need feedback and agents need iteration. It's just like any new team member, right?
Think about when you onboarded a new team member into your team, much like that, our AI agents got better with coaching and with continuous improvement. So we went through some of the metrics around savings and productivity. I'd also like to share with you how this has transformed the employee experience, right? We've reduced HR tickets by approximately 3,200 in the first 6 months. And we are projecting a 25% to 50% deflection rate for employee service cases by FY '27. What do I mean by case deflection? It is when you avoid a customer or an employee in this case, having to even raise a ticket by providing them all that they need to service that question themselves, right? So that means they haven't even raised the ticket. That's called case deflection. So that's thousands of routine inquiries that our HR team no longer has to handle manually. And look at this customer satisfaction score, right, 4.8 out of 5 with over 200,000 closed HR tickets.
So what this means is that when employees can get instant accurate answers to their questions without having to navigate multiple systems, employee satisfaction naturally follows. So what I wanted to really showcase on this slide is that this isn't really theoretical anymore, right? It's natural for us to whenever we see an AI or an agentic story to really be skeptical and say, okay, this sounds good on a slide, but what does it look like when it's implemented. That's exactly what we wanted to cover today. So hopefully, you're able to see that this is not mere theory. This is employee service and Agentforce, helping our employees find information, resolve issues and focus on higher-value work at enterprise scale. So with that, I -- as we close out, I just want to spend a few moments on this slide with a practical 4-step strategy based on our learnings, right?
Step one, start and stay focused, right? And the key is to not to try to solve everything on day 1, but prioritize one key outcome and then identify a high-value pilot use case. Step 2, as they say, clean data, good AI. So prioritize data readiness. Your agent is only as good as the information that it has access to. So an essential pre-step is to gather all your essential HR-related content, be it policies, benefit plans, summaries, standard procedures, employee handbooks, all of that, that exists in knowledge repositories, import from those, bring them all together. I think that's prioritizing data readiness. Focus on the experience design, right, because this is where really the magic happens.
So put the AI and the agents where your employees actually need them, right? We don't want our employees to do additional hard work to use the AI, right? So that might be your employee portal in your case or it might be Slack or Teams as we just saw in the demo. Then leverage your HR expertise to fine-tune the design and build the right guardrails, and we saw why guardrails was important. And step 4 is to communicate success and adapt quickly. So publish your success metrics early, employee satisfaction scores, how many cases have you been able to avoid and things like that. So what this does is build momentum and trust, right? Then driving adoption across employee groups by showing value and continuously improving on this feedback ensures that your employees start using your solution.
So with that, I want to leave the audience today with one last poll, right? We've gone through what we have and what we've learned from our journey. Audience, I'd love to hear from you, where is your organization today in adopting AI-powered HR support and spend a few minutes to go through these options and pick the one that most closely represents what your organization is currently facing, right? Are you actively evaluating HR service solutions today? Or are you planning to explore them in the next 6 to 12 months? right? Or let us know if you're already using a different AI-powered HR platform or any custom workflows that you've built.
If none of these options really capture what you're doing today, do definitely feel free to use the chat and use the chat to also tell us if you're looking at additional use cases that we couldn't cover today, right? Anything that's top of mind to you, we'd love to hear that. So I'm going to take a pause here on this slide to give you some time to get use this. And one thing that really stood out to me as I was preparing for the session is that your HR system, right, is often that first digital touch point that any employee of the organization has, right? As you're onboarding, your first digital system that you really touch in an organization is what your HR is using. So I think that underscores why this transformation becomes absolutely important. So if you've taken a few minutes -- a few seconds to answer that, I'm going to just leave this here and go over and see if there are any questions for us to answer.
Please do use this time to also put in any questions that you may have through the course of this presentation. I do see some questions on whether you'll get the presentation and recording. Yes, you should see that sent over to your e-mail. Apart from that, I also want to call out that there are a lot of related links under resources that you should be able to see on your screens. Audience, please make sure to book mark that. You will get that on your e-mail, but please feel free to take a look at them. You will see a very nice video that you can go ahead and take -- you can watch it later.
And the Salesforce case study that I just walked through about the results that we've had, you will see an entire article on that. So please feel free to take a look at that as well. I'm going to just move ahead. And fantastic, right? Thank you so much, audience for -- it's very encouraging to see 34% saying you're actively evaluating HR service and 24% are saying that you're planning to explore AI for HR in the next 6 to 12 months. I think that goes on to showcase why today's topic was so pertinent, right? So hopefully, all of you had a good time and took away from what we shared with you today. That does bring us to the end of content that we have prepared today, but we're just going to stay on for a few more minutes to see if there are additional questions on chat that we can answer. We've been answering a lot of them as we go through. But yes.
Yes. So I can take it from you, Shruthi. So I see actually, there are a bunch of questions I responded to. I think me and Shruthi and Avni have responded to some of those individually. Apologies if you are not able to respond to all of them because we see like there are a bunch of them. What I would do is just read out some of the common questions or common concerns, and we can try to address it online. And then obviously, as Shruthi mentioned, you can -- Shruthi, I'm assuming there is a way in which the audience can reach out to us if they have more questions or if their answers -- for some reason they go unanswered, they should be able to reach out to us, right?
Yes. We will -- yes. unanswered questions, we will get that, right, in case we're not able to get them.
Sure. So let me quickly pick a couple of questions that have like common concerns, right? One of the common questions that we do here, and it's also on this webinar is the concern over the PII data, right? So how does Agentforce ensure that the PII data is not getting compromised. So I would request specifically to the audience who are interested in this to look up 2 things regarding the Salesforce. One is the Einstein Trust Layer protection and second is the zero data retention policy, right?
So when -- just to explain that a little bit, with respect to the Einstein Trust Layer protection when Agentforce uses third-party tools like external LLMs, sensitive data such as the PII, the personally identify information and business sensitive data is removed before it's sent to a third-party tool, right? And with respect to the zero data retention policy, the data that is accessed by the agents, including the personally identifiable information, it is protected in transit, right? So what this means is it is installed or used for training purposes for external LLM providers as this is a part of Salesforce strict zero data retention policies, right?
That is one. And then the other question that I got was specific to the demo that we showed a demo in which the manager is kind of accessing information regarding the promotion eligibility of their reportee, right? And the question that we got is like, okay, so if the manager is able to access this data and manager is able to create a request for the promotion of their reportee, do the reportees also have kind of access to whatever data that they want because it could be risky, right? And in some cases, you don't want like all the data to be shared with everyone in the organization, right? So what I would like to say is that the Agentforce agent can restrict data access through multiple mechanism.
So we can like kind of ensure that users only see information that they are authorized to access, right? So authorization to access is the key here, right? So there is permission-based access control. So the Agentforce agent inherits the user permissions and they will not apply with the information that the user does not have access to, right? So it is -- what it really means is that it respects the agent, respects existing Salesforce security models and data access control, right? And this is based on the locked-in users' permission, right? So yes, so primarily wanted to answer like the common questions, and these were the common questions. So yes.
And just to reiterate for other people asking, yes, you will receive a recording of this session shortly in your inbox. You can see the recording, yes.
Yes. And I will also try to respond to like the individual questions as much as possible in the DMs. Thank you.
Okay. If I think we've addressed most of the questions that we had. Thank you, everyone, for your time today. I really do appreciate you taking time out. Thanks for engaging with us, and thanks for responding to the polls. This has been super helpful for the team. Thank you so much, and have a great day.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Agentforce integriert autonome KI‑Agenten direkt in den Arbeitsfluss (Portal, Slack, Teams) und liefert personalisierte, kontext‑gestützte HR‑Antworten in Echtzeit.
- Ziel: Routineanfragen autonom lösen, HR‑Mitarbeiter entlasten und so Produktivität und Mitarbeiterzufriedenheit steigern.
- Trust: Betonung auf Guardrails, menschlicher Eskalation und Datenkontrolle statt vollständiger Automatisierung.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Integrationen: MuleSoft‑Konnektoren vereinigen HR‑Systeme (Workday, SAP SuccessFactors, später Oracle u.a.) für eine Employee‑360‑Sicht.
- Kanalstrategie: Agenten laufen plattformübergreifend (Portal, Slack, MS Teams) und führen Aktionen aus (PTO, Direktabbuchung, Expense‑Flows).
- Sicherheit: Einstein Trust Layer, Zero‑Data‑Retention und Berechtigungs‑/Permission‑Modelle sichern PII und respektieren Salesforce‑Zugriffsrechte.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Roadmap: Ab Oktober 2025 Ausbau von Agent‑Fähigkeiten (Time‑off, Profile, Direct Deposit, Slack‑Integration, SAP‑Erweiterung).
- Februar 2026: Fokus auf sensible Workflows, AI‑to‑human‑Handoff, MS‑Teams, Payroll‑Agenten (ADP/Paychex) und erweiterte Compliance‑Funktionen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Datenschutz: Nachfrage zu PII: Management verweist auf Einstein Trust Layer, Daten‑Anonymisierung vor externen LLM‑Calls und Zero‑Retention‑Policy.
- Zugriffsrechte: Kritische Frage zur Datenfreigabe beantwortet: Agenten erben Salesforce‑Berechtigungen; nur autorisierte Daten werden angezeigt.
- Erfolgsmessung: Nachfrage zu ROI/Adoption: Salesforce zeigt Customer‑Zero‑Metriken (40% autonome Fallbearbeitung, ~9.500 früh gelöste Cases, CSAT 4,8/5) und Projektionen (25–50% Deflection bis FY'27).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Produkt‑Webinar zeigt klares, umsetzbares Produktangebot mit konkreter Roadmap und Trust‑Mechanik; stärkt Salesforces Plattform‑Moat durch Cross‑sell (MuleSoft, Slack, Core CRM) und kann langfristig Kundenbindung und Cloud‑umsatz stützen, direkte finanzielle Effekte bleiben aber adoption‑abhängig.
Salesforce — Analyst/Investor Day - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, everyone. This is Emmanuel. I'm your host today. Welcome to the session.
Please welcome Executive Vice President, Investor Relations, Mike Spencer.
Welcome. Thank you all so much for being here. We're maybe a couple of years overdue, but we're super excited to have you all here. Hopefully, you've gotten a chance to tour around Dreamforce a little bit. If you haven't had the opportunity yet, I strongly encourage you to walk the floor, talk to customers and in particular, go see Agentforce City. Mark mentioned on the stage yesterday, but I think it's really important for you all to hear directly from customers. You're going to hear us talk a lot about it today, but do get out and see the sites and tour around.
So we've got a package in today. I am -- but I want to start with just say thank you. You have choices. We appreciate your investment. We hear from a lot of you. Feedback's a gift. But we are super excited to have you here, and we're super site to tell you our story today. And you're going to hear from a great group of our leaders, but we always start every presentation with a thank you.
In traditional analyst -- let me see, there you go. In traditional Analyst Day format. We've got to give you the precursor. I'm not going to read the slide. Just to say that we are going to make some forward-looking statements today, which are subject to change. So always please refer to our latest filings with the SEC.
So the agenda. We've got -- we're going to kick off with Steve Fisher. I'm going to talk about the specifics on the next slide, who's our Chief Product Officer; Miguel Milano, our Chief Revenue Officer, is going to come up after that. Then Robin, and then we're going to close with Marc and the leadership team for Q&A. Marc will be here for the last 1 hour or 1:15 minutes of the presentation today. And then afterwards, we're going to have cocktails out in the reception area. There'll be some demo televisions as well with some folks demoing some of the technology you're going to hear about and some of the technology you've seen at Dreamforce. So please stop by, ask all the questions you'd like to ask. We are selective in what we put out there. So we really want you guys to get a front row seat to some of the tech that we've been introducing this week.
So let's talk about the details of what you're going to hear about today. You all have probably seen, if you got a chance to watch the keynote yesterday. The circle graphic that you see here gives you a layout of our product portfolio. Steve is going to come up and walk you through where we're at from an innovation cycle standpoint. We've been investing a ton. We'll talk about that, but we're super excited about where we're at. And we are certainly in a zone where the pace of innovation is rapid. And you all know that, you cover our space. But you're going to hear Steve really get into it. And we're super excited to have Steve here. You all have not heard from Steve before, but he is a key cornerstone obviously, to our product strategy.
Followed by that, it's going to be Miguel Milano, our Chief Revenue Officer. He's going to come in and take the product vision that Steve is going to paint for you and give you the go-to-market lens and what we're doing there. And I'll come back up and talk about that between sessions. And then lastly, Robin is going to come up and give you the financial framework and the monetization structure of all that. So we're super excited with the lineup. Keep your questions to the end, and we'll get into the Q&A. So with that, I'm going to hand it off to Steve.
Hi, everybody. Good afternoon. Thanks for coming. And as Mike also said, it's really -- especially now when things are changing so rapidly and it's really a nice opportunity to get the opportunity to come up here, share kind of our thoughts and then hear your feedback. And so looking forward to the questions later today.
I thought we could start by maybe setting a little context about kind of what we've been doing behind the scenes for the last 4 or so years. So as you know, for the first 15 or so years as a company, we're really focused on improving the model, multi-tenancy, metadata, the cloud, CRM, Sales Cloud, our platform, Service Cloud, that was -- I was here from 2004 to 2014. So that was a big part of my career was helping see that through. And then -- and that -- that was a pretty good ride and kind of think we kind of showed that the future of enterprise software was in the cloud. At that point, in order to really complete the story though, in order to be able to deliver the full customer experience, we bought a few companies, as I'm sure you're aware.
And so about 4 years ago, we decided to step back a little bit because during that time, our architecture had gotten a little bit fragmented and the data was somewhat fragmented and the experiences were somewhat fragmented. And we -- that was great for the time because we brought in all these amazing teams and capabilities and customer relationships and it really completed a large part of the portfolio. But at that point, 4 years ago, we decided, okay, now we need to -- because our mission wasn't really -- isn't really, okay, we want to deliver a great experience for sales teams engaging with their customers and service teams engaging with their customers and so on.
It's really about from the CRM perspective, putting the customer at the center and breaking down all the silos so that our customers, the businesses that we serve can have the best, most relevant, most personalized experience across every touch point and where the business understands everything about the customer and can deliver the best possible experience and build enduring customer relationships. That's really our core, core, core mission. And to do that, we needed to sort of rearchitect our platform, bring all of those applications together on to a next generation of our core platform. And at the heart of that, what we really started with in 2022 was around data. And that's the origin of Data Cloud or now Data360 because data has always been the foundation for CRM. If you want to deliver great customer experiences, you need to bring together everything you know about those customers so that you can power your employees and deliver those automated experiences.
And similarly, that's when we started rearchitecting some of our other major clouds, Marketing Cloud and Commerce Cloud and Tableau with analytics. And reimagining what elements of those should be in this new common platform with data as the foundation, but predictive AI and automation and analytics and the semantic layer and visualization, and all of those capabilities we were hard at work kind of behind the scenes to really deliver on that promise, the true promise of CRM putting the customer at the center and having everything fluid across all those touch points with data AI, automation, analytics, all the customer touch points and channels in the core architecture.
And then while that's going on, in late 2022, we all sort of had our ChatGPT moment. When ChatGPT hit and we realized, oh, this is going to change everything. And I'm sure we -- all of you experienced that. We certainly did. And so we then spent a lot of time and effort really pivoting the company around what is our role in bringing this LLM, AI, Agentic revolution to life and help it be useful for business. And that's a lot of what we've been doing really the last 2.5, 3 years or so is first with kind of embedding prompts across the platform and then early Agentic efforts then a year ago launching Agentforce and then really embedding that across the entire platform.
So that's kind of been the journey in the last 4 years. It turned out in our point of view, that all that work to bring everything together onto one platform was pretty much exactly what was required to help these LLMs actually be useful for business. So I thought for the rest of this, I'd sort of walk through that. because last year, another area we were really fortunate was last year when we launched Agentforce, most of our customers had been experimenting with Gen AI, maybe with us, maybe with others, trying to understand how can I make this useful, how can I make this useful? And then something about the experience at Dreamforce or the fact that we had delivered the Agentic capability embedded within our platform. The response was a little -- it exceeded our expectations, let me put it that way, with initially in the first few months, thousands and thousands of customers and now well north of 12,000 customers who are actively building agents within Agentforce and within our platform.
And so why did that seem to have struck a cord not that what we launched last year did everything that was necessary. In fact, it's been quite a year of learning. But I think it did strike a bit of a cord, which is the key -- one of the key lessons that we've learned is that the LLM by itself, while it's pretty cool in our consumer world, and it's pretty helpful if we want to write letters or help us think about things, it's not particularly useful by itself for business. It needs to be connected, we all know. It needs to be connected to the data. It needs to be connected to the system, so it can take action. You need to be able to embed it within the application, so it can assist the humans that are engaging, say, with your customers. It needs to be able to work with customers directly. It needs to be able to escalate from a customer to a human.
All of these capabilities really need to be -- are not really native within an LLM. They're not really within the model. They're just outside of the model. The model is astonishing for what it can do with language and basic reasoning, but it doesn't do any of that other stuff. And that's sort of where we were, in some ways, reasonably well positioned because we've been doing this work consolidating on this one platform that included data and automation and analytics and sales, service, marketing, commerce, industries, integration, all the capabilities that we had coming together because it turns out that data is not only necessary to fuel customer engagement, it's also absolutely critical to fuel your agents and power your agents.
So being in the flow of work, providing that context, all the security, sharing, governance, all these capabilities that we've sort of been working on really in the context of CRM turned out to be very, very useful to power agents. Now of course, they were -- that was not enough. I would say those were all necessary but not sufficient. And that's really the journey that we've been on the last year is learning with our customers, getting the feedback, working with them, really being in the trenches. When we had 5,000 growing to 12,000 customers, building agents, we learned all the things that, okay, this is actually working pretty well, but we also learned all the things that were struggles. And that's what we've tried to bake into our platform.
And the foundation, so our platform, our new AgentForce 360 platform really lives at 3 primary layers. The first is the data layer. This is what we used to call Data Cloud, now Data360. And I think it's probably the least understood part of our entire architecture because probably a little bit because of the name Data Cloud, when people hear that, naturally assume, oh, this must be a Snowflake competitor or a Databricks competitor, and that's just not the case. Snowflake and Databricks and BigQuery and Redshift are among our biggest partners because yes, Data Cloud allows you to bring all your enterprise data together, all your -- certainly all your Salesforce data, which is quite a bit of customer-relevant data, but also your web data, your mobile data, your back office data, whatever is customer, customer adjacent or really any data, it allows you to bring all that together and then harmonize that into that single golden customer record. And that's very important.
Snowflake can do that and Databricks can do that and all these other data platforms can do that as well. The difference is -- the primary difference is that Data 360 is deeply integrated into that common platform that I mentioned earlier. So we had spent the last few years rebuilding our platform, dramatically improving the scale of our metadata, transforming all the tools that are within Salesforce, reimagining all the applications so that if the data is in Data 360, it's in sales. If the data is in Data 360, it's in service, marketing, commerce, all of our industries apps. It's available for analytics. It's easy to integrate. All of that capability was already there.
And so unlike -- so salespeople, salespeople do not log in to Snowflake. Snowflake is fantastic, but it's really analysts that tend to log into Snowflake, not salespeople. People in the contact center do not log into Databricks. Databricks is amazing for data scientists. So we had these data platforms that have been able to consolidate data, just like Data Cloud, Data360 can, but it was still kind of trapped in those now consolidated silos because getting it, that data to support your customers or power your agents, there was a big divide. And it was very complex, expensive and fraudulous to cross that chasm. That's the problem that Data 360 really, really, really solves because what we did was we sort of pioneered these zero copy data federation relationships. So if the data is in -- with just a few clicks, if the data is in Snowflake, the data is in Data 360. If the data is in Databricks, the data is in Data 360. It's not physically there. It's virtualized there and the metadata is there.
But from the consumers of Data360, it might as well be there. And remember, if the data is in Data 360, it's in Sales Cloud and Service Cloud and Marketing Cloud and Commerce Cloud. So you see where I'm going. Now all of a sudden, with just a few clicks, all that work that our customers have done with Snowflake and Databricks and BigQuery and Redshift now the value of that was multiplied significantly because it could all be activated to serve the customer because if the data is in Snowflake now is just natively in Sales Cloud. No ETL, no complex processes, no batch processes, no real time, no nothing. It's just there. And that has been, I think, a big unlock because it allow -- it solves that problem of being able to take all your enterprise data, create those golden customer records and use that to serve your customers.
Then, of course, ChatGPT hit and all of a sudden, not just structured data but also unstructured data. and agents. And so similarly, all those documents, all those complex documents, all those simple documents that were kind of not really available to serve enterprise software, they can now be unlocked. They can be unlocked for the humans, but most importantly, they can be unlocked for the agents. So that's really the role that Data 360 plays. It's really the glue between all the enterprise data and your customers and your agents. That's why it's been quite a successful ride. That's layer #1, the data. Data is the foundation. It's the foundation for CRM and obviously, the AI revolution is a data revolution.
The next layer is the Agentic layer, the agent force layer. And this was the key for us last year and why I think we saw such interest from our customers was that it was embedded within the platform. And so it had immediate access to all that data that our customers are already putting into Data Cloud, now Data 360. It was connected into all of the applications. It was accessible through all of our channels that we support, SMS and WhatsApp and chat and now voice. And so that was not -- you didn't need to kind of do all this integration where you have an Agentic platform over here and a data platform over here and your applications over here, that is very complicated. Now it was all together in one platform.
But that said, we really have been -- I don't think I've ever been on a more interesting and intense learning journey than I have been in the last almost a year since we launched Agentforce. because we're all new and figuring out, okay, exactly what are these LLMs really good at. And exactly what are they not really good at. And they're very good at language. That is astonishing. Now all of a sudden, you have software infrastructure that can understand language, can generate language, who saw that coming? I certainly did not. amazing. And they have some basic reasoning capability, but actually, what we've kind of learned is it's more limited than you might think. And so we've been on a journey when we had AgentForce first launched, well, where are our customers struggling? And that's really the road map of AgentForce. So we did AgentForce One almost a year ago.
Mostly the value there was integrated in the Salesforce platform. And you had a nice ability to use prompts to create be embedded in the brain of the agent. And you could take advantage of Data 360 and you could take advantage of things like Flow and Apex and MuleSoft to be able to act across the enterprise. That's sort of the basics of an agent is you feed it the data, you feed it the APIs, you tell the agent what role it is, it's topics, it's kind of its mission in life. And then hopefully, uses its reasoning ability to take the utterance and take action and give a response. That's basically the heart of an agent. But here's what we found.
First, our customers were reluctant to release these agents because they needed to have confidence through testing. And testing an agent is a little tricky because the output is nondeterministic. You're not going to always -- for the same input, you don't always get the same output. We're not used to that actually. We're used to having you give an input, you get an output, you test it, you move on. And so in the world of AI, you need to use AI to sort of validate the AI. And you can also use the AI to create more exotic, challenging test cases. So that was our testing center that we launched last December.
And then the next challenge was, okay, now I'm confident, I put out my agent. How is it going? what's working, what's not working? How do I optimize it? That was the next set of releases is we put -- we provided the complete all the session information, all the details, all the analytics, all the tracing available so that our customers could see from the macro level, how is this performing in the contact center, how are the agent performing overall, how is it performing as a sales agent, all the way down to the micro of exactly what did the agents say when and why and everything in between and then the ability to use AI to help uncover challenges and make recommendations and things like that. That's what we released over the summer.
And that was -- those were, I think, big breakthroughs for why customers -- why you're starting to see at the event, large customers seeing success with agents. But then there were a couple of other things that we learned that we're just now releasing. And I'm going to go -- it's okay because I think these are really interesting insights that we learned, and I think I'd like to go a little bit technical and kind of describe what's going on because I think this helps us explain at least me understand why this is -- why it's been so easy to build a killer demo, but why has it been so hard to get agents that actually deliver the goods. And here's what we found really in 2 key areas, in addition to the ones I already mentioned, 2 key areas that were a bit surprising.
One was that even that the agents -- so we would have customers tell the agent in natural language through prompts like everybody is doing, first do this and then do this and then do this, but never do this or always do this. And if this is true, then do this, but otherwise do this. If you looked at the prompts for all of our customers, they're riddled with that. But what happened was that the LLM would maybe most of the time do what you told it to do, but not all of the time would it do what you told it to do. And that's kind of been the experience is that the reasoning ability, the ability to always follow instructions, that's not really the LLM strength. And the realization was, if you actually know what you want the agent to do, don't go to the LLM. Just say, do this and then do this. And if this, then do this, else do this, kind of the basics back to the traditional software role that we're all used to, but I think maybe we thought the agents could kind of just figure it all out on their own.
But they get very confused. They can't do that. They're designed not to do that. They're designed really to figure out the next word to say. And they're not designed to always do -- and in the world of business, -- there are some things where you want that creativity, but there are some things where we actually just needed to do the same thing every single time. And so that's where we -- so we would have our customers, they would write those prompts and then it didn't always work. It mostly worked, but it didn't always work. So then they would redo the prompts and redo the prompts and get into what Srini calls the prompt doom loop, where you just [indiscernible] and then if it's not listening to you, you'd say, never do this and you put it in all caps and repeat it 3 times.
Literally, that's what our customers were doing. And it's like, okay, this is a big unlock. And so that's what Agent force script is. What Agentforce script is the ability to be inside the brain of the agent because the agent is not the LLM. The agent is running in our platform. Agentforce is the agent. And the LLM is infrastructure that the agent can use when appropriate. But now you can actually just say, first do this and then do this. And if this, then do this. It's kind of back to the future in a lot of ways. But while -- and that's true within the brain, but it's also true writ large.
There's kind of this sense out there that I'll just ask the agent in the future, I'll just ask the AI what to do or tell it what to do, and it will just figure it all out. It will look at all the data. It will look at all my APIs and it will figure out the next step. And the first thing we learned was actually, if you don't constrain the agent to maybe no more than 6, 7, 8 things that they should be paying attention to, it gets very confused. And then we learned, well, even within those 6, 7, 8 things, use the LLM where it's appropriate, do not use it where you actually know what to do. That's this deterministic capability with Agent script.
And all of that has sort of said, okay, Software is still software. In the world -- in business, when you actually know what you want, whether it's for compliance reasons or you just want to execute your business process 100% the way you want to execute it, then just use the enterprise software you've been using all along. That is still really, really useful. It's not to say that the agent isn't an astonishing capability. If you go to help.salesforce.com or you go to www.salesforce.com and engage with our agents, it's light years ahead of where bots used to be before. And that's also true on the inside. If somebody is in the contact center helping a person, maybe they came from that customer-facing agent and then it got escalated to a human, it's really good that that's the same agent with the same context guiding that human. That is astonishing.
But everything else needs to basically kind of work the way it did because if you want it to work 100% of the time, we already know how to do that. but this allows us to do something else. So that was a huge learning. The second learning was what we're calling intelligent context, which is with unstructured data, which historically has kind of not been useful for business software other than maybe as an attachment. But and by unstructured data, I mean documents. And theoretically, what we first built into Data 360 was you would upload your documents. We would break them up and do kind of bite-sized pieces that an LLM could digest because if you throw a 400-page document in an LLM, it turns out it gets very confused and it's kind of slow and expensive. And then you would put it in a new kind of database where you could -- the LLM, the agent can ask the question and get back the answer. And here's what we found. The answer was right about 40% of the time.
And so our customers were spending half their time in the prompt doom loop. Really, you could never get out of that. And the other half of their time trying to reprocess the data, all those documents so that the LLM would understand. And why would that -- intuitively, why would that happen? Well, for example, one of our customers is a pharmaceutical company, and they would have these complex documents to describe symptoms and all that. And the document was starting with a flow chart. And the flow chart would have all the elements in the flow chart would then say continued on Page 203 or continued on Page 700. And the basic way of processing that would not work or they would have tables within tables within tables or would have these pictures or complex documents designed for humans, actually probably a little hard even for humans to understand.
So that's this intelligent context. That's where we've rebuilt Data 360 and its unstructured data pipeline to be able to take those complex documents and using AI, feed it into these new databases so that rather than 40%, it's like in the high 90% of accuracy. This is where our customers were spending all of their time. It was on the prompts, and it was on getting the data to actually give -- it was all about accuracy. It was all about repeatability. It was all about balancing the creativity with the determinism. And so we're really, really excited. We think maybe given all the feedback we've gotten and being in the trenches as we've been for the last 12 months that these 2 capabilities amidst many other capabilities, we think these 2 capabilities are going to be a big, big unlock.
We obviously also launched voice, which hopefully, you'll get a chance. If you go to the campground, you can go and we got Boost, you can go build your own voice agent in like 5 minutes. It's pretty cool. I would recommend it. We're very proud of the voice interaction, getting that to be low latency and interruptions and all of that. That was nontrivial at the level of scale that we need and the openness that we need. And so we're pretty happy about that. And we've also rebuilt the entire builder experience so that you can kind of use AI to help you build the agent, that you can have a natural language prompt like our customers did, but they push a button and the AI will turn it into agent script so that you don't need to build the agent script yourself. But if you're a hardcore programmer, you can also get raw access to the core code that is the agent brain.
So we're pretty happy about -- these are, we think, going to be breakthrough capabilities. And then the final part of the architecture, so there's the data, there's the Agentic layer. And the other thing we've really been doing, this was not true really a year ago, but we have really rebuilt our applications because you can have -- if data is over here and the agentic layer is over here and every application is totally separate, it is a heavy lift to get the full value and productivity. And because we'd already put everything together onto a common platform, that's what we started 4 years ago. So we've really turned all of our apps into Agentforce apps, the Agentforce sales from the SDR that Mark talked about in the keynote, answering all the calls that -- when people would come to us, we wouldn't call them back, and now we are because we didn't have enough people, but now with agents, we do through account planning and prospecting, the entire sales experience is now augmented by Agentforce.
The entire service experience, customer-facing and for the people in the contact center and for the service managers with the command center, all fully agentified. Field service, Mark talked about his experience with Eaton. Now whenever you're -- anybody goes out in the field, they have an agent there supporting them. Marketing, turning every one-way message into a 2-way conversation and also agents helping you build campaigns, commerce with an agentic -- a buyer agent, a shopper agent, a merchant agent, analytics. So now with our reimagined Tableau now built natively on Agent force with the semantic layer giving business meaning to your data, the visualization layer that we've now pulled -- abstracted out and made available across the entire platform.
Now you have a data analyst which is an agent at your side, able to ask deep, hard, challenging questions and pull back all the amazing Tableau visualizations across the board, including now with IT service as a new offering that we just launched this past week. So every single one of our apps is now fully Agentforce enabled and all of our industry applications with over 200 agents and Agentic actions now being released this month. Everything in this platform, all the apps, the data, the Agentic layer, all the applications are all working together so that rather than having to figure out how to do the integration, the complex integration, bring everything together, it all just works naturally seamlessly as one fully integrated platform, both to serve your customer better and also to power those agents.
And that's really the Agent Force 360, really a reconceptualization, a reimagination of our entire product suite, very, very different from where we were a year ago and dramatically different from where we were 4 years ago, which was what I sort of described at the beginning, where we have -- it's about the humans and the agents and the apps and the data all working together with the data layer, the Agentic layer and then all the applications built on top of those -- of that platform, all working together seamlessly, synergistically. And of course, these are not silos either. So going -- in fact, we're seeing the world of sales and the world of marketing, these worlds are really blurring, generating pipeline now that you can have one-to-one conversations at massive scale.
The lines are really blurring between marketing and commerce. The lines are really blurring between all of those and service, the lines are really blurring. And that's really to the benefit of our customers and especially their customers because now they can be treated as an individual and not kind of siloed off by the particular department that they happen to be talking to. It's really been the dream of CRM. And now through the data layer and the Agentic layer, we think we're on the verge of being able to deliver those incredible experiences that have been so challenging in the past. And ultimately, that's what really we mean by the Agentic enterprise, having this Agentic layer powered by data that infuses all of the applications, all of the touch points, everything that the employees are working with, everything that -- all the engagement that customers have, they're elevated by agents or they can engage directly with agents and it all works seamlessly together, the humans and the agents working together to drive customer success.
We believe that, that is really kind of our core strategy. Our advantage is that we -- it's all come together on one platform, putting the customer at the center, deepening trust, elevating employees, building enduring customer relationships. So hopefully, that gives you a sense of kind of where we've been on the last 4 years, where we've been in the last 12 months. It's been an extraordinary 12 months. I've been in this business a long, long time and really nothing has been like the last 12 months of learning and iterating and engaging and figuring out this new astonishing technology, what it's really great at and what it's not so great at and how can we kind of take advantage of all the capability but also deal with all the challenges in the areas that, particularly in the world of business, it's not that good at. That's kind of what we think we've really delivered for this Dreamforce. And that's what I got to say. All right. So thank you. And hopefully, that was helpful, and I'm going to turn it back to Mike.
Okay. Thank you, Steve. That was great. I really want to commend Steve and his team for behind the scenes what you all don't see, and he mentioned it a few times, but I really want to emphasize it is the -- you'll hear Mark talk about the beginner's mind. And Steve has done a tremendous job over the last couple of years of really embedding the concept that feedback is a gift, whether it's coming from customers, whether it's coming from internal use of the products, listening to the feedback, responding to it and incorporating it into the product. And it's really helped us start to advance it. And you all have heard from us on a regular basis about how important customer success is, and that starts with incorporating and listening to the feedback and being responsive to our customers. So it's really been a core part of our journey.
With that, I'm very, very pleased to introduce Miguel Milano. He's another boomerang to the company, our Chief Revenue Officer. And the thing I'll highlight about Miguel, which you all will appreciate as fellow finance folks, Miguel is a math guy at heart. So we have some very -- as you might imagine, for those that know me well, some very healthy math debates at times. And Miguel is always ready to go toe to toe on any type of math equation and get into it. So I really respect the work he does and the healthy debates that we have at times as we argue about how high his forecast should go. So with that, I'm going to hand it over to Miguel.
Hello, everyone. I'm Miguel Milano, President of the company. I joined in 2011. As Mark said, for -- in 2020, I left for a 3.5-year internship at a great company and then came back, [indiscernible] by the amazing opportunity that we're seeing ahead of us. I'm the lucky executive in the company that gets to take to market the incredible innovation that Steve and his team and also Srini have built over the years. And like he said, the last 12 months have been so incredible. So let me start by thanking all of you. We don't take this lightly. I mean this is an incredible audience. We are so proud that you are hearing us. And hopefully, you spend time also talking to our customers, looking, feeling the energy, the momentum.
This is my 12th Dreamforce, I haven't seen this energy, this momentum ever. The dynamic environment, the amount of partners, the amount of customers. So hopefully, you get that also in your minds. Today, I want to cover 3 topics, okay? I'm going to go straight to the point. I think we're going to really get you under the hood and you're going to see things that you haven't seen before. And I think they're going to be very enlightening. So first, I'm going to double down a little bit on the Agentic enterprise opportunity. This is like unprecedented, like -- I mean, I've been 25-plus years in sales. I haven't seen anything like this coming at me ever in the last 3 decades. And you're going to see how we have developed like a playbook to really go fast and scale to capture this opportunity.
Second topic is I want to ensure you that we have been investing wisely for the last 12 months to be ready for this opportunity. And then third is when the rubber hits the road, I'm going to show you real examples of customer success. And I'm going to tell you how we have reimagined in my partnership with Srini here. He drives customer success also how we have reimagined our customer success. And I'm going to tell you some very, very cool stories of some additional customers. I'm going to even have some customers here on stage with me. You saw Mark at the keynote yesterday with 5 customer stories. I have my own 5 customer stories, and they are a lot of fun. And they exemplify what is happening right now in the company.
So Agentic Enterprise opportunity. Yes, every company, this has never happened before. I mean this reminds me a little bit like in the 2010 to 2020 decade, where I joined the company in 2011, it was kind of lucky moment because at that point, every company wanted to go to the cloud. They wanted to go to use CRM applications in the cloud. And we were the lucky recipient at that time because we were the best platform. We were scalable, we were secure, we were multi-tenant. And for me, it was an incredible decade because I was running international, first Europe, then international. And every country that we would go in, every account, every industry, every customer started implementing Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, Marketing Cloud, field service, analytics, et cetera. It was like a marvelous decade.
And I feel that we are in front of the next golden decade. What is happening is that every customer, every customer wants to become an agentic enterprise. Why? Because they want to go faster, they want to grow top line. They want to drive productivity. They want to reduce cost. They want to increase the NPS, the customer success. They want to make the lives of the customers better, more available, more proactive. And then they want to empower the employees. Now they know that AI is going to enable that. And they want to transform themselves. They want to bring conversational AI to every channel. Every company now wants to have conversational ways to access their customers. They want to leverage a single source of truth. That's why I love so much Data 360.
Once the data is in Data 360, it's everywhere. It's also in the mind of every single agent, okay? We want employees to be augmented with AI, but we also we want agents to execute autonomously when required. It's a combination of the 2. The same way that -- I mean, this is probably one of my biggest learnings in the last 6 months. Everybody was very excited about AI until we realized that latent AI, just do things wasn't good. No bueno, as my boss says. And so we want to make sure that we built a platform where probabilistic reasoning leaves together with deterministic execution. And deterministic execution is the apps, the workflows that have been built for many years.
Then we want to make sure that humans and agents are orchestrated in a seamless way. And then everything needs to operate as usual in a secure platform where governance is maintained. data sharing models are maintained. This is an Agentic enterprise. And if you become an Agentic enterprise, you have all these benefits, the growth, the productivity. So this is happening. Every time, if you guys talk to some big customers, midsized customers, small customers, by the way, small customers have had this very clear. They want. They don't have CDIOs. They don't have Chief AI Officer. They don't have CIO, they don't have CTOs. They just go for it. They want an embedded AI, embedded agents in a platform. That's why we're going so fast in the low end of the market.
But if you talk to any size customer, they're going to tell you that. We've understood this. We've kicked tires. We've experimented. We are ready to go. We want to become agentic enterprises. So what I've done on my end, I have 29,000 people in my organization. I have 14,000-plus account executive sellers. We've created -- we need everything -- every time we do something, we need to do it at scale. So we've created like a playbook. We call it sales motion to really win the hearts and the minds of the executive, particularly the CEOs. And we do always the same thing. By the way, this is very similar to the playbook that we had when we were convincing customers to go from on-prem CRM to the cloud CRM. We start with a point of view. What is the vision? What does an Agentic enterprise look like for you, customer in that -- in your specific industry. And I'm going to show you an example that make it very clear.
We have point of view for every industry, for every domain, for every process. We know the agents that are most likely going to impact specific business KPIs. Then, of course, we live in a world where customers have already made a lot of technology decisions. We don't believe that customers need to implement all our technology stack. And okay, I'm sorry, I know you invested 5 years in a data lake, but you need to use Data Cloud. Of course, not. In fact, I tell customers when they've done working Redshift, BigQuery, Snowflake, Databricks, I tell them, miss customer, mr. customer, you just want the lottery because I am going to multiply the ROI of that investment immediately. Steve said it earlier, ask customers, how many people logged in into Snowflake last week? Nobody. The data is secure, it is governed, but it's not activated. It's not driving value.
So we need to respect the architectures, and we need to add to that architecture and power that architecture. Of course, we do demos. That's the easy part. And then fortunately or unfortunately, I think it's fortunately because that gives customer confidence, we do pilots. Most of the times, we do pilots. In fact, many of the stories that you're going to see today, the stories that you heard yesterday started with a pilot, okay? Because they need to prove that the agent can operate, can work, can engage with customers. And then once they feel that they're ready to go and deploy not just one agent, but many agents, they need the right commercial construct. And I think one thing we've learned is that customers, they don't really understand. There's a lot of unknown in these tokens, data ingestion, how much am I going to consume, how much I'm going to pay you.
So we've made it very easy for customers as you see. We are meeting customers where they are. We have so many ways for customers to contract commercially with us. So let me show you quickly an example of point of view. And then I'll talk to you a little bit more about pricing. This is a telco company, okay? I go in front of the CEO and I explain what the Agentic Enterprise is. I typically start with the description of an Agentic Enterprise. I give some examples. And then I say, listen, we can help you become an Agentic enterprise. This is your road map. This is the life cycle of a customer. These are key processes. And these are specific Agentic use cases you can deploy.
Of course, a regular customer, the execution bandwidth that customers have, they're very busy. Their IT departments, they cannot swallow all that in one bite. But we basically, with our professional services, with our FDs or with our partners, we built a 2 or 3-year plan so that they start deploying use cases. Every one of these use cases impact business KPIs and drive value. And I'm sorry, every CEO gets enamored when I show this slide to them because they want to become an enterprise. They didn't know how. We are giving them the road map on how to do it. And by the way, this is based on many years of experience. We have industry teams. We also work with partners. So imagine we have slides like this for every industry. And we have all the agents. In some cases, we've already built these agents out of the box in our industry clouds.
Now pricing, we're meeting customers where they are. okay? Listen, there are customers that say, listen, I don't want to get confused with consumption, et cetera. I want seat-based licenses. Well, we created seat-based editions like AgentForce one Edition or Agent force for sales or Agentforce for service. That essentially is if you have already 10,000 users of Service Cloud, I'm going to give you the super power of AI and Agentic for those 10,000 users. So we upgrade you to Agentforce for service. And now you have a limited and metered. We don't meter it. It's a limited access to Agentforce for employee-facing agents. That's pretty cool.
So now, oh, my God, as a service agent in a call center, I'm going to have 20, 30, 40, 50 agents that are going to be working for me, and it doesn't matter what they do. It's already covered in the SKU, yes, customer, and they love it. Of course, the price of the SKU increases significantly, and that is a top-selling SKU that we launched in Q2. There are customers that want to go into the consumption world, but they just want to buy fuel, credits. They are a bit more scared. They still don't know, okay, pay as you go or you do a pre-commitment like you do with hyperscalers, you commit certain amounts, but you only pay when you deliver when you consume the revenue, okay? We have that.
And then we have on the right side, we have new offers. These are very, very exciting. These are big. One piece is flex agreements, and this is very interesting. I think you're going to like what I'm going to say now. So we thought like you thought, okay, if works shift to Agentic to agents, we may have less humans doing that job. That's a fair thought to have, right? A year ago, we didn't know that really humans and agents need to be working together, and there's many more things that humans are going to be doing. So -- but we wanted to build agreements. We call them the flex agreements where if a customer believes that by shifting to agents, they're going to have less humans. Therefore, they don't have to pay for the service cloud licenses or the Sales Cloud licenses. Well, we give them the option in the contract. We call them flex agreements where they can use the investment in the seat-based licenses to fuel more consumption.
Now this rationalization of seats, as we call it, is actually not happening. We have very few customers asking for that. And those that are asking for that, the seats are not going away. But you know what, it gives a sense of reassurance to the customers that they can have the flexibility. But the one that I'm most excited about is the ELAs, the Agentic Enterprise license agreement. Let me double-click on it. So Mark and I came up with this over the summer, if I can -- maybe second, maybe yes, perfect. So Mark and I -- Mark spent a month in Europe last summer. And we started visiting customers, all CEOs. And I think customers are already past the phase, we call it the technology phase, where they were kicking tires and experimenting.
And CEOs for the most part, they're tired. They're saying, okay, I just want to transform. I just want to use AI everywhere. We are clear that there are very few technology vendors that can do this for us. We want Salesforce to do it, but we are worried about the pricing. So what we said is after many meetings, we realized that uncertainty of pricing, in fact, predictability of cost was very important for CEOs. So we put together something very simple. And it wasn't easy. It was one of my debates with Mike. So Mike, just trust me, okay? Just trust me. flat fee, unlimited usage of Data Cloud and Agentforce for our customers. They can deploy any use case they want for 2, 3 years. They can ingest as much data as they need for those Agentic use cases.
And of course, we have some wording so that they don't go crazy with data ingestion for any other thing. And then also some MuleSoft because sometimes you need to bring the data and make it easy for them. And obviously, these unlimited consumption agreements, they come with a step change in how we monetize the customer because the reality is it also comes with a step change on how they use our software. They now are using our software as a digital labor platform. They're going to deploy many, many use cases. This is -- I mean, it has to do with CRM, but it doesn't have to do with CRM. I mean we are identifying all our CRM apps, but there are so many other use cases that are adjacent to CRM that now agents can do. So we're giving them the construct, the predictability for them to go big with Agentforce and Data Cloud.
By the way, some of them are saying, you know well, why don't you throw in some of the seat-based licenses and I give you more money, but I don't want to be counting licenses or analytics or Tableau Next or market. And we are very flexible, but [ILS] are mostly on the consumption side. By the way, we also layer success resources. Our own success resources, Signature Success is an offering that really, really is the high end of the market to how we -- very proactive, how we manage adoption, consumption, how we take care of any problems that the customer have. We also have FDs. I'll talk about FDs in a second on professional services. I think we also bring partners. Sometimes we invest in the partners as part of the [ILS].
Okay. We've already signed -- we put this together mid-July. We've already signed a dozen of them. We have until -- Friday last week, we had 150 [ILS] being negotiated right now in the pipeline. After Mark announced this in his keynote on Monday, this number is probably going to be doubling very soon. All of them for this H2, a lot of them in October, many of them in Q4.
And I want you to understand one thing. This [ILS], this is not -- we're adding one extra cloud and we're adding 10% more AOV, we call it AOV, so subscription to -- this is a step change, in some cases, a multiplier impact in our monetary relationship with our customers. Again, I'm always saying, the only reason customers pay us 50% more, 200% more, 300% more is because they're using us differently. They're using a different budget pool, which is the digital labor. They are driving tremendous value. So very excited about that. You're going to hear a lot about that in the earnings call. So let me go to the second topic. This is an obvious one, but I want to make sure it's -- we haven't done this that frequently in our company. We've been for 2 or 3 years. The reality is after COVID, we haven't invested a lot in capacity.
We have plenty of capacity. The demand also wasn't there at the scale that we're seeing it today. And we've been pretty conservative. But last year, after Dreamforce, we were blown away. I mean I told this story at the earnings call, I will repeat it here, it's basically public. Marc told me last year when we launched Agent Force. Agent force came live, I think it was October 25 or October 26 last year. We had 5 days to close the quarter. He asked me, Miguel, closed 20 deals because I want to talk about them in the earnings call. And I'm like, okay, Marc, but I don't have an SKU. I don't know how I'm going to close 20 deals in 5 days. I don't even have a contract to "Miguel, figure it out".
So I call my team. I have 15 amazing leaders, and we were ready to deliver it. We have great relationships. We have a lot of customers that trust us. And then like the day before the launch, Marc called me and say, Miguel, you need to sell 50. I'm like, Marc, you told me 50. I'm like, okay. But then I called him, net-net is 6 days later, we closed 206 deals, okay? 206 deals. Then we closed 3,000 plus. I'm talking pain deals, 3,000 plus in Q4. I had committed 1,000 a week. So this is out of control. So we realized that a huge opportunity was unfolding ahead of us. And then we decided to invest heavily in capacity because at the end of the day, demand was there.
Supply has 2 components as of force. One is the steep component, the product component. But if I don't have capacity to take to market, that supply doesn't get anywhere to the demand. So -- this is the process that we went through. So we decided, okay, what are the high-impact strategic TAMs that we are not covering yet. If you look at the left side of the slide. And then can we really capture those TAMs? And then I'm going to plot a few areas where we invested there. And then on the right side, we say, okay, what are the places that today we are already seeing growing and have higher productivity. And then third, we say, okay, let's make sure that we don't go into crazy places that the cost to book is too high, okay? We like low cost to book.
Now sometimes, I'm okay, investing in an area with higher cost to book if that solution is very, very sticky and has high productivity. But the net-net is that's how we were thinking a year ago when after 2 years, I was given tremendous budget to hire capacity. By the way, when I say capacity is AEs, but also it's with all the golden ratios. It's ACs, it's BDRs, it's whatever specialists. So as an example, as an illustration, these are choices that we made, we've been making in the last few years. If you look on the left side, big TAMs that we think we can capture easily more in international public sector. We are very big in public sector in the U.S., but really in international, we have great business in Australia and New Zealand, a little bit in the U.K., but that's pretty much it.
That's humongous opportunity because we have all use cases. Mission force is the same, it's government but for defense. Life science. And as you know, we were not -- we were selling all around the commercial area of life science, but we decided to go big into the commercial side. We just launched a product this week, but we have already 80 customers, including some of the biggest pharma companies in the world that are betting on us for the future versus staying with Veeva in the new platform. I mean this is like incredible. It's incredible to see how these big pharma companies are telling us, well, the only reason we were in Veeva is because we couldn't buy Salesforce. But the only reason we like Veeva is because Veeva was on your platform, was scalable, was extensible, was secure.
That's what we want for the future. So we put the IP in our platform to complement the pieces that we don't have is skyrocketing. Integration, field service revenue. So the different colors are either market segments, products. And then the other side is what is growing, what is growing fast and what is high productivity. Marc likes to say, Miguel, grow what is growing. That's pretty simple. But simple things are powerful. So we've invested -- I mean, I'm not going to go through all the areas, but all those areas are growing a lot, and most of them have very high productivity. So that's how we have been using our dollars to invest in capacity. Now the other thing that I'm doing is particularly because there is a lot of new people, new AEs, new seller capacity, we are making sure that the productivity is there and that we increase productivity.
So this is -- I'm not going to go in the interest of time in all the details, but we continue to drive very strong performance culture. We give obviously sellers that are not performing the opportunity to perform that if they don't, we move them out. I think we have the best sales team in the world, and I've been in several companies, and this is like very powerful. we've revamped enablement. For 6 months, I've been the Chief Enablement Officer of the company also. And the goal was to accelerate the time to sell. We've reduced it by 1/3. I told you about the higher-end SKUs. They bring big tickets, bigger ASPs, which at the end, increases productivity of the East. We are simplifying our go-to-market, not to have too many specialists. Consumption flywheel, this is for somebody that has been sitting that has been selling license, seat-based licenses most of my life, to see this is like glory, it's like heaven.
So I told you guys that 40% of our Agentforce and Data Cloud business, which is growing a lot, came from customers refilling the tank. But what you probably didn't calculate in the math is we started the year only with a few thousand, 5,000, less than 5,000 customers, paying customers of Agentforce plus Data Cloud. okay? We're going to -- and by the way, with an agent force platform that was being built as we were speaking at the time. Now fast forward 12 months, at the end of this year, we have now more than 10,000 or more than 10,000 paying Agent force and Data Cloud customers. We're going to finish with more than 20,000 paying customers, Data Cloud and Agentforce. So imagine next year, all these customers are coming to us and they're going to refill the tank. So that's very, very exciting.
And then we want to be very lean. The whole company in every part of the organization, you're going to hear from Robin, we are using it in our own -- drinking our own champagne, and we are identifying all our processes. So this is my process. I'm using SDR agents to follow leads that before nobody follows. 75% of our leads, we didn't follow ever. Now with SDR agents, we're starting to follow thousands of them. We've closed already hundreds of deals. through these agents, it's incredible. They are better than our human SDRs.
But now they complement. I mean, it's unfair because they only touch the low-quality leads, and they still perform very well. Then we have, on Slack a sales agent to support our sellers throughout everything, preparing the -- doing account research, preparing the briefings, doing competitive intelligence. Anyways, we're going to have more and more agents.So this is to increase productivity of the Agents. So we've been investing wisely, and we are keeping an eye on productivity and increasing productivity. And now what the rubber hits the road is customer success.
So we have reimagined customer success in the era of Agentic. You see the word net new AOV. It's going to get a little bit confusing. I like math, but it's important, and you're going to perfectly understand it. The whole company is aligning behind these 4 letters, net new AOV. Okay. So the reimagination of customer success, and this is in tight partnership with Srini. We've created a group of people. You've heard FDEs, forward deployed engineers. The reason this is like a mix between professional services to implement things and engineers that understand product in the same profile, which is kind of difficult and recruiting and enabling this team is complex.
We are now in the multi-hundred people. We want to grow this to close to 1,000 by the end of the year or beginning of next year, and we'll probably continue to grow. At the same time, partners are building the same capability. Why? Because these ever-changing platforms, I mean, we have weekly releases of Agent force. We used to have releases every 4 months of Sales Cloud, Service Cloud. Now it's every week. We need direct connection, direct feed back between the customers. We have 13,000 implementations right now of Agentforce between them and the product team. Obviously, we are not in the 13,000, but we are in the most important ones in a few hundred. This is very important. Then the ecosystem. We have come up with programs. I spent time with Deloitte, with Accenture with our top partners. They're building at these. They're building their capability. They're enabling their people. There is 165,000 certifications on Agentforce in our partner ecosystem, and we are starting to invest in them.
Now we have a contract with them. Okay, I'm going to give you this money to go to this account, but you need to deliver this consumption and these number of agents and this data ingestion. And this is what hyperscalers do. This is what all the data lake companies do. We were not doing it because we were not used to that. Now we are. And then finally, net new AOV. So I would say NNAOV is king or queen, okay? The whole company has been aligned around that. And then NNAOV, I'll go into some detail. NNAOV, first of all, definition is bookings minus attrition, okay? Attrition is when customers don't renew the contracts. Booking is when customers buy more subscription, okay.
So the importance of NNAOV is the following. The reality is that on this slide, the most important line is the light blue line, which is the AOV growth. Do not take AOV growth as the lead indicator of revenue growth in the future, right? If the AOV, AOV is the sum of all the subscriptions that we have, take out professional services revenue. So if AOV accelerates, revenue will accelerate a few months later. And if AOV decelerates, revenue decelerates, okay? And we've been seeing in the last few years how our revenues have decelerated, okay? We don't like that. We don't like that. I don't like that. But it's a reality, okay? Revenues have been decelerating because the market we were in was getting tighter. We were becoming bigger. It's harder to grow -- to accelerate the growth in those conditions.
We were competing with SaaS budget also from even other domains. So we -- you saw under the first shaded area that NNAOV was growing less than the AOV was growing. So the key thing here, so let me wrap up -- let me come back one second. The key thing here is that the AOV growth is what we want to accelerate. In this company, AOV has been growing every year, and it will continue to grow every year for the years to come. But it has been decelerating, the second derivative. For the AOV growth to accelerate, which is what we want, there is one thing that needs to happen. And you can do your models and you'll see the net new AOV growth needs to be higher than the AOV growth. So let's take this as an example. Last year -- I think last quarter, we announced our subscription revenue was 9%. Our AOV is more or less 9% growth.
If the net new AOV, which is what we add is the difference between the bookings minus the attrition, if that piece that we put on top of the AOV, if that piece is growing less than 9% the combined result in AOV is going to continue to decelerate, you understand, okay? So if the NNAOV growth is less than 9%, the AOV growth will be 8.7%, 8.5%, 6%, 5%, okay, disaster. We don't want that, okay? So our obsession is to -- for the net NNAOV, which was what we add on top of the AUV to grow faster than the AOV. If the NNAOV grows 11%, 12%, and we put it on a base that is growing 9%, the AOV accelerates. And that's key. When those 2 lines cross, we will start seeing AOV immediately, AOV acceleration and then months later, revenue acceleration. And I think one of the huge "announcement" that we are sharing with you is those lines are crossing as we speak.
After 3 years of net new AOV growth being significantly below the AOV growth. In fact, for 3 years, it was negative, okay? And it just dragged down the acceleration of the AOV. Now the lines are crossing as we speak. I have full confidence that the dark blue is going to continue to go up. Why? Because bookings are accelerating because the capacity is coming online. The innovation is unprecedented, what we are delivering because the Agentic Enterprise opportunity is a monster opportunity because the low end of the market is already on fire. We had the best month last month. I mean, when I say the best month, I'm talking 30%, 40% growth in the low end of the market. It's crazy. That was only 1 month, but we will grow close to 20% on the low end of the market. That's -- we haven't seen this kind of growth in that -- in the low end of the market for a long time.
The consumption flywheel is kicking in and it's becoming a bigger and bigger component of our total bookings. And next year is going to be even bigger. You have all those points at the bottom. And then Missionforce, we're betting big on Missionforce. It's going to take a bit longer for Missionforce. But that gives me a lot of confidence that the booking is accelerating, and we put in place a lot of programs to reduce attrition to reduce the -- to slow down the attrition growth. So net new AOV, which is the difference between bookings that are accelerating and attrition, which is decelerating. So net new AOV is going to accelerate significantly. So the graph is going to look better and better. And that's going to have big impact in the revenue and a big impact. It's going to have an impact on the revenue, and we're going to talk about it later, okay?
Robin will give you more detail. Super exciting, super exciting. But I think what is more exciting is to hear about the customers. And these are the 5 customers that Marc talked about yesterday. So I'm not going to go and talk about them right now because you heard the stories. But I'm just going to say one thing because the theme is the same for everyone. These customers are embracing Salesforce to help them become Agentic Enterprises. The whole theme of Agentic Enterprise started less than a year ago. So put that in context, in most cases here, there's been already a step change in the way they use Salesforce and in the ways we monetize the relationship with them.
But I just want to leave you with a quote from Laura, the CEO of Williams-Sonoma. She said something in the interview yesterday, so it's public. She said she showed her -- some of the use cases of agents in some of the websites. And she said, it's only a small beginning on just one brand. We have many brands, as you know. We're looking forward to using different versions of this on all our brands. I want to take you to the slide with the telco footprint with 80-plus agentic use cases. okay? I'm going to show you an example of a telco company that has already 10 of those in production. There's 70 plus. But only to start, the relationship has had already a step change. Let me go fast through some other examples. I'm going to go very fast through the top 3, and then I'm going to invite 2 customers, CaixaBank and Vivint to join me on the stage so that they tell you their own stories.
So before I talk about these 5 cases, I couldn't resist to add this little thing at the bottom of the page that says that I look at the top -- before I came to this meeting, the top pure LLM providers, okay? People think that the LLMs are becoming the new CRM applications and SaaS is the end of -- is the end of SaaS. Well, they -- just in the last year, they've tripled the spend in our CRM application, sales, service, marketing and Slack analytics. So that's pretty cool. And I probably anticipate that to be probably 5x, 6x, 10x in the next 2 years, okay? Because it's not the end of SaaS, it's a new chapter of SaaS. It's a new chapter of SaaS, where, yes, there may be a conversational interface. There will be a conversational interface to consume the enterprise applications, but you need the agentic execution through the robust workflows that have been built for years, secure, governed, that's the future of SaaS.
So let me take Eaton, leading intelligent power management company. All the stories are the same. Great relationship. They were enjoying our core clouds on the left side. I divide this slide between the pre-agentic and the Agentic. By the way, the line in the middle is one of the months since October last year until now. So I mean, the beautiful thing is everything is happening very fast. The size of the columns is at scale. It's a business that they do with us, okay? They were a happy customer, look at the clouds that they were using. They were using mainly for sales service, field service marketing. And then they came to Dreamforce last year. Every customer is the same.
They came to Dreamforce last year. Then we realized that we built a digital labor platform. And they started thinking, oh my God, if I could do all these things in all these process, if I can identify. In this case, we -- since Dreamforce last year, we built more than 80 different use cases with Eaton. As of today, we have 150 use cases built. Of those, we have 40 more or less use cases in production from -- performed by 6 different agents, okay? They entered into how many months ago? 3 months ago, they did a step change in the relationship with us. They added Agentforce and Data Cloud, and then they are starting to deploy all these agents. pretty, pretty significant. By the way, the size of that column doesn't include already committed bookings because we've ramped the deal. So there is -- that column is going to -- already is going to grow without doing anything much more in the future.
This is a step change. This is not adding one cloud and adding 10% to the business. Second example is Finnair. My God, I love this company. I was having dinner with the CIO last night. And the use case is amazing. They first, same thing, stable relationship, look at the clouds that they have, our core applications, our core applications, 10 years -- more than 10 years of a customer of Salesforce, they were using Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, analytics. They were a happy customer in the low million dollars, a few million dollars. They came to Dreamforce, CEO was here, CIO was here. They were blown away by AgentForce.
They immediately came to us. In fact, they were one of our few initial customers during Q3 last year -- sorry, Q4 last year. And then they built a number of use cases that they wanted to deploy immediately. They actually didn't invest a lot. It was a pilot, a few hundred thousand dollars. The first agent is called [indiscernible], which in Finish, it means resilience in times of disruption because they use the agent for when people travel got disrupted, that they could call an agent and the agent would figure out everything. Now they use it for loyalty. They are plugging Amadeus. They're having double the thousand conversations per week, and we are negotiating a pretty large agreement, an ELA to essentially the size of the bar on the left is going to more than double very soon. I'm hoping for October, but if not, it's going to be November, but for sure, they're going to do it. They are very excited.
Next example, One NZ. This is the largest telco company in New Zealand. Okay? The CEO is here with us this week. He's not here today attending, although he actually wanted to be here, but I said, you know what, I already have an international customer. I need an international customer and a U.S.-based customer. So this is the pre-agentic phase, again, happy customer. The nuance here is that in the Agentic phase, in addition to Data Cloud and Agentforce, they also added Communications Cloud. To put a layer of industry on our sales and Service Cloud. You already see how the step change in the relationship, which was already in the millions, now is obviously more than double, okay? And we are currently negotiating with the CEO, and again, we're hoping that it's going to happen this week or next week to double the bar on the right, again, and we're going to get into the double-digit millions of dollars only because they have built 80 use cases.
They already have 10 agents in production. Their main agent in production is a very simple one. It's for self-serve of B2C customers to move them from prepaid to postpaid. And yesterday, the CEO sent me a message and said Miguel, I just want you to be the first one to know. By the way, I'm a telco engineer by education, and I was very close to this customer. I just want you to know that the conversion rate of our -- of agent-first agent to move people from prepaid to postpaid, which is what they want because postpaid customers last longer and spend more per month is 4x better than our human agents. The guy is blown away. He has the whole team here. He has a list of 80 use cases that he is deploying. He doesn't have more flex credits, et cetera, to deploy them. So he -- we're going to do a big step change.
This is a multiplier effect. And by the way, in most cases, the more agents they use, the more they realize that they need the apps, our core apps to execute. And I have customers that didn't have Sales Cloud or Service Cloud and because they have agents now, they are buying the core apps. So not only there is a flywheel effect, a consumption flywheel, but there is a product flywheel from core products to Agentic products to more core products, to more Agentic products and then the consumption flywheel, which is a different flywheel. So it's very exciting. I can show you more slides or I can invite two real customers to speak with me here on stage. What do you prefer slides or customers?
Okay. So it is my honor, okay? I need to do a little intro [indiscernible] one second because this is very close to my heart. And I need to -- we need to go fast, by the way, because as usual, I'm running out of time. But Mike introduction was too long for me. But listen, this is very close to my heart, okay? This is personal. The reason -- I mean, probably the main reason I'm here in front of you today is because in 2000 -- sorry, in 1993, I got a phone call from CaixaBank that they have awarded me a full right scholarship to go to MIT. So I spent 2 years at MIT, totally changed my life, full right, paid by CaixaBank. I'm forever grateful. The King of Spain gives the [indiscernible] to you together with the CEO of CaixaBank.
I married an American that I met in Boston. I'm here because of that. So I really have a lot of love for this company. And now I have even more love because they're an incredible customer of ours that are growing a lot. So I want to invite Luis Javier, he's the COO of the bank. He's the largest bank in Spain, 20 million customers, 40,000, 50,000 employees to be on stage. I'm going to ask him the same question that I had in the slide. I'm going to ask him live. Luisa, please. Give him a big round of applause.
It's a pleasure to be here, but I don't know why all the people prefer [indiscernible], I think it's better for you the slide.
Just in case we have it as a backup. So we've got the same 3 questions. Number one, we had a great relationship for many years, more than 10 years, you were using us what we call our core products across the bank, I think 38,000 financial services cloud licenses and many other things. Can you tell us how was that relationship before the agentic moment?
Okay. We have started our relation 15 years ago because we have problems were with our customer engagements. And we -- the first tools that we used was sales. For us it was really important, okay?
Sales cloud.
Sales Cloud. Okay. And we started with all of our branches and start to introduce all their tools or Salesforce tools, but we have a huge range all of them. In fact, our ecosystem about the commercial areas of the whole ecosystem is sales ecosystem because we believe that it was really important to integrate all the activities, the commercial activities in the same tool of the -- the same tool of Salesforce. Now...
They also have crexi. They're one of the biggest e-commerce platforms in Spain because they want to finance their goods and so they sell a lot. So Commerce Cloud was also a part of [indiscernible].
Yes, yes, Commerce Cloud, we use Commerce Cloud -- well, and in fact, daily 38,000 employees use Salesforce tools, okay? For us, it was an enabler, and it was the first stage because we don't want to create our own tools. The was in the financial entities historically you have own tools to develop some kind of activities, commercial activities. And now all of our -- I always say that our employees, they call Salesforce tools [indiscernible] my customers, okay? And in fact, I think when we speak with them about, okay, what do you prefer? Take the [indiscernible] tools or create a new tool, an internal tool always say, please don't touch, don't touch my Salesforce.
This is a perfect example of what Salesforce used to be, right? Happy customer, [indiscernible] is my customers, everybody use it. They use everything all our products, mid-teens, mid-teens, millions of dollars of business with them every year, very successful, growing a little bit every year, we're adding more users. Okay, let's give you a bit more marketing cloud a little. That's tough, okay? Now what happened -- again, what happened last year? You guys -- your team came to Dreamforce. Yes, what happened?
Well, my team came to Dreamforce and after that. This is my first Dreamforce. And my team came and said, okay, we have one opportunity because we are now involved in a transformation project called Cosmos, okay? And Cosmos is how we can go to the future. okay, in our business processes. This is -- the most important issue is that we show the opportunity after look about other vendors, other possibilities in the market, we thought, okay, my good, if Salesforce view fits with our needs in our transformational platform, okay? Cosmos, we have one opportunity to make a jump in our relation. And [indiscernible] was, okay, it's a vendor, Salesforce is a vendor that has probably the best diverse CRM.
But now we are thinking that we need to take advantage of the AI, generative AI and the agentic era. And this was, for us, really important because our whole ecosystem is Salesforce. And if you want to create value for your customer and your business processes. We thought that was really important to have the best partners and Salesforce was the best partnership. Why?
You look at other vendors, right?
Yes, several vendors -- as you know, there are several vendors in the market, more than 3 or 4. And indeed, and with selective Salesforce. And starting with -- well, we are a bank and as a bank We have a strong regulation. We need to be really confident about secure transparency, okay? For us, our supervisors need to know that you have the control of all your interactions that was really important for us. And AMforce and Data Cloud [indiscernible] for us.
Data Cloud across the company. an agent only to 8,000, the 30,000 employees.
Yes, 8,000 because you need to start with, well, we thought that it was important to start with the remote advisers and with the contact center. And for us, our remote advisers are around 3,000. The contact center is over 2,000 people. And there are other activities, internal activities like customer -- customer satisfaction areas and all that, that 8,000 was the key point to start with the rest.
So that's what happened in the last few months. We signed this contract, this by the way, it was a step change in the already healthy relationship. I think we added like 6% more. And we started in December last year. There's been progress now. I think, I don't know, you've deployed already live agents.
Yes, yes. We have one agent that now is where we have production, one agent and enrolling at this moment, 8 agents more all around the customer needs.
Okay, last question, super fast. What is the future? I mean we only sold you to -- we only gave superpower to 8,000 of our employees. Is the future for us in the bank?
Yes. But we look at the future in this way, okay? We believe that the future of our company is to be an adjusting company. But thinking that we will have a hybrid organization with human and agents. But agents make the same tasks that humans sometimes. Again, we need to know how we can evolve our organization because it's a cultural question. And we want to change completely our business processes. Really, in fact, we are deeply sure that Salesforce could be for us the best partner for the future and for this future. And Miguel, if you help us continue to drive our customers needs and improve our business processes. I assure that Salesforce will be -- we'll be happy you.
Thank you so much. Thank -- thank you so much. Thank you very much.
Sorry because I must take off. Bye.
Great story, very close to home, and I'm very proud that could do it. I'm going to finish with the now back here to the U.S., close to your home. I'm going to invite here on stage Ryan [indiscernible] He's the Senior Vice President Engineering of Vivint, the leading smart home and security company in the U.S. You all know the company. We're going to tell the same story. It's like a broken record. Ryan, where are you? Are you here? Big round of applause.
Thank you so much. All right. All right. By the way, you've already seen my questions. it's pretty remarkable what is really happening. And I have to thank you because you were the largest you took the largest bet on Agentforce when we launched it. You were 1 of the few first customers, and you were the largest one. You came and told us how excited you were. But before we go into that moment, Again, same question. Tell me how the relationship was with Vivint before Agentforce and Data Cloud?
Yes. We had a 15-year relationship, and Vivint is a smart home and security provider that delivering peace of mind to our customers is utmost important. That customer experience is important. So the first 15 years has really been building on sales, service, marketing cloud, the core components of Salesforce. And so we really honed in that customer experience and serving millions of customers on the platform is where we honed in and focused on building on that platform and the value associated with that.
So super successful customer, happy growing moderately every year. And then your team, you also came to Dreamforce last year, and you saw Agentforce. What happened?
Yes. We saw Agent force. Vivint is a fully vertically integrated smart home company. We were excited about what we heard, but there was some hesitation. And being a fully vertically integrated company, we had to prove it and put it to the test. And so we actually did a bake-off where I put 2 teams. We had a team that did a DIY approach, and I had a team that did Agentforce approach. And it was a stark contrast for what we saw with a DIY approach. By the time they were rolling out the infrastructure, the security and looking at scaling it, the Agentforce team had already deployed and started gaining business value. And so it was a huge immediate notice that going with a platform that we had already built on over those past 15 years, we can leverage some of the main components of flows, triggers, Apex, everything that we already built automatically worked within the platform, and we had a massive head start on top of where we were.
I mean this is so beautiful. This is the Customer 360 advantage. This is the apps that are there for deterministic execution, the flows, the ApEx code, everything that is ready for agents to execute, and that was the big half for you. Okay. So you came in, you made a bet, you negotiated very hard, which is okay. That's fine. And it was still a substantial deal and a substantial increase in the relationship. But tell us what's happened in the last year.
Yes, in the last year, we've deployed agents across really the customer service elevating and increasing the experience to our customers in 2 ways. We have assisted agents and autonomous agents. The assisted agents are really helping lower the learning curve for our customer service representatives, making their job easier. That was a huge win, improved our handle time with our customers. Then the second piece, as we start rolling out autonomous agents. We rolled out AVA, our Autonomous vivint Agent, and doing troubleshooting with our customers. And then we've graduated that to complex cases, things such as making payments through AVA scheduling technicians, rescheduling technicians, some complex tasks using the power of the platform. And again, a lot of the things that we've built over the years. And then the beauty of the platform is we've been able to scale that and run the pilot for voice and relatively easily pivoting from chat to voice has been a quick and a great fast pickup for us as a company.
Love it. Love it. Perfect example. So the last question is, how do you see the future of our relationship? Do you think we're going to be happy with you guys? Are you going to be happy with us? How is it looking?
Well, Miguel, we've got really exponential use cases in front of us, keep building this platform. What we're looking at is orchestrating agents across boundaries, internal and external. And what we've seen there's certainly problems in front of us and what we're doing. So we're excited for that. Thank you.
Thank you so much -- so before I get fired of this company, I'm going to go very fast. Listen, it's all the same. It's not that complex. It is there was a Salesforce that we had great relationship with our core products with customers. Agentforce came in just 12 months, step change changes in the relationships in the way we -- they use our software as a digital labor platform, but also the way that we monetize the relationship because we are adding significantly more value to the customer. This is a multiplier effect. Robin is going to talk about 3x, 4x multiplier effect that we see in all our relationships. You've seen a bunch of examples.
It is very exciting. Again, unprecedented opportunity, the 3 messages, unprecedented opportunity ahead of us. We know how to capture this opportunity. We've been investing wisely to capture the opportunity. We've reimagined customer success to deliver the opportunity together with our partners. And the last sentence is welcome to the next chapter of SaaS. Only Salesforce has the Customer 360 apps, which are the deterministic workflows, the Data 360, the single source of truth and the Agent Force 360 platform to deliver the Agentic Enterprise at scale. Thank you so much. I'm sorry for being a little over time.
Thank you, Miguel. That was great. I hope everyone absorbed all of that, like I said earlier, when I introduced Miguel, he's been a huge champion for us, leading the way on the go-to-market side of things. And as you highlighted, enablement has been a huge topic for us internally over the past, especially the past 6 months, trying to catch up with all the product innovation that Steve started the presentation with. So with that, I'm super pleased to introduce Robin Washington, our Co-Fou, our Chief Operating and Financial Officer. I know some of you have had a chance to meet with her, but many of you have not yet. So I'm very, very pleased to bring her up here and introduce her and have her take you through the monetization of everything you just heard about.
Good afternoon, everyone. It's an honor to be here. As many of you know, prior to me taking on this role a little over 6 months ago, I was a member of the Salesforce Board for a very long time and a lead Independent Director. You know that old thing when you're on a Board, it's very different than an operator. It is. I've learned so much since I've been here that I didn't know, even though I was a long-time Board member, but I came here because I truly believe in the opportunity that we have. And the more I've dug in, the more I believe in the opportunity that we have. So I want to start my presentation with one of my favorite traditions at Salesforce, and that's a big thank you. I want to thank all of you all as investors for your support, your warm welcome. I appreciated the opportunity to talk to many of you during my listening tour.
I also want to thank the leadership team who has been helping onboard me. As you can tell, we've got some great storytellers. And I don't know, Miguel, maybe a CFO in the making. So -- but it's been wonderful to get to work with these leaders in a different way. And I also want to be sure to give a shout out to the Investor Relations team led by Mike Spencer. Putting this together is a tremendous job, prepping us all with everything going on with Dreamforce with customers and everything. So thank you to the IR team and everyone else coordinating. They do an amazing job. I constantly get great feedback from you all about the information you provide. And as Mike said, we're always learning, and we look for additional feedback going forward. So I'm going to catch up a little bit of time since Miguel, our CFO, used some of mine because ultimately, I want to get to Q&A where you guys can ask us questions. So I'll go quickly.
You heard the story of how we got here, the replatforming, the building of the Customer 360, what will allow us to provide the Agentic enterprise to our customers. Miguel shared a little bit about the growth investments that we've made, the focus on growing capacity where we need it to grow, as well as net new AOV and our extreme focus on customer success. As he said, it is now a metric going into FY '27 for every employee in the company, and it's going to be critical as I lay out our financial framework. I'm going to cover our financial framework. How do we tie this all in a bow and pull it together. And as I'm sure all of you want to know, what does this mean to your models and the numbers. So let's dive in.
I'm going to restart with this slide because I want to ground you with where we are today. As I said, I think a CFO in the making, so I don't need to explain net new AOV. But as you can see, we have had some lower stage growth for a while. That is reaccelerating. The excitement that you've heard yesterday from our customers, hopefully, you've gotten to see many of the keynotes gives us great confidence in our ability to turn the curve here and see ACV accelerate going forward. So what does that mean? As we look out over the next 5 years, we are excited about the opportunity that we have to return to double-digit growth and continue that acceleration, particularly with the products and the go-to-market motion that you just heard about.
Keep in mind that this $60-plus billion FY '30 revenue target that I'm providing you excludes Informatica. What does that mean? It's a 10% organic CAGR between FY '26 and FY '30. Now keep in mind our model that I explained on the previous page, right, given the fact that we have had this drag, it will take us a little bit of time till you see that fully reflected in subs and support revenue. I'm predicting now, and you guys all know I'm conservative, probably 12 to 18 months. But importantly, we are confident in our ability to reach $60-plus billion by FY '30. In addition to that, as you know, we are very focused on profitable growth. One of my key goals as co-fo is to deliver Salesforce is not only an agentic enterprise, but a lean Agentic enterprise. So in addition to our $60-plus billion, we're also looking at being 50 by FY '30. How do we measure our view on Rule of 50 subs and support growth at constant currency percentage plus non-GAAP operating margin.
Okay. What I'm going to go into in a little bit more detail over the next 20 minutes or so are the various pillars and how we get there. And as you've heard me on the Q1 and Q2 call, I'll continually update you in terms of the progress that we're making, our growth drivers, our focus on operational excellence and of course, very important to you and for us to continue to deliver shareholder value, responsible capital allocation. And we do all that very focused on what's very fundamentally important here at Salesforce in accordance with our core values. So let's dive into the growth drivers, some of which Miguel talked about, but I want to kind of frame it with you how we think about it financially.
So let's start with our TAM. There is a massive agentic growth opportunity ahead of us. Over the next 5 years, we anticipate that AI apps and platform spend will exceed $600 billion. And we believe that we are well positioned with everything you just heard from Steve and Miguel to take advantage of that. Fueling that is this focus on digital labor, a $13 trillion opportunity over the next 5 years. And one of the things that we found out when we read your research reports, when we talk to customers, you heard from today and you've heard all week, we know that CIOs are shifting where they spend budgets. We know that we're moving from discussions about AI to actually deployment of agents. okay? And we also know, as you've heard, that the apps are driving the operationalization of AI.
Why is that important? It's important because if you think about all the fud out there about SaaS being dead, we believe it's a myth. And we believe it's a myth because of what we're seeing our customers do and our opportunities like this. There is a 5x plus opportunity of increased spend in app and platforms over the next 5 years, and we're positioned to take advantage of it. So we've talked about Customer 360. I view it Growth 360. What are those 4 pillars? What do we need to focus on? And the first 3 are tried and true. We've talked to you about them before. Let's think about multi-cloud. We know that 85% of our ARR comes from customers where they have 4 or more clouds.
As you know, we continue to take advantage of how we package, bundle and deliver support options to our customers. We are meeting customers where they are, whether they're buying our Agentic products or our core clouds. We also have a balanced portfolio. We focus not only on geographies, but on industries and on segments. And as you heard Miguel talk about, as you've heard us talk about on the adoption that we're seeing in SMB and [indiscernible] has been accelerating tremendously. And we're starting to see it in our enterprise customers as well. But the one area that I really want to click in for you in the next couple of slides is innovation. And I always learn so much when I listen to Steve talk because he really gives the story behind what we've been up to, as you said, for the last 3 to 4 years.
It is that innovation, particularly as it relates to Agentforce and Data Cloud or Agent 360, we change the names of our products around here so much, so I always have to keep up. But that consumption flywheel, that's what's going to drive our overall growth through our innovation.
So I asked the team, let's look back in time. I'm new. What have we really invested organically? Everyone when I talk to when I'm out talks about our M&A. But over the past 3 years, and you heard Steve talk about what he and Srini and all the teams have been up to, we have invested over $10 billion in organic R&D spend.
The products that I've listed are just the start. Steve talked about the replatforming and everything else we're doing. What does that drive? That drives our belief that our organic innovation is going to allow us to reaccelerate to double-digit growth.
Prior to taking on this role and some of my Board work, I spent 12 years in the biotech space as the CFO of Gilead. And when we talked about our operating model, we used to talk about the investment in R&D, the harvesting of that investment as we commercialize products, right? And ultimately, it gave us the dollars to continue to reinvest and grow our company.
That product life cycle was anywhere from 8 to 10 years. That's not the case today. You heard Steve talk about just the tremendous innovation where we didn't even have Agentforce when we were here last year at Dreamforce. It came on after that. So our acceleration of innovation, our replatforming, our integration of our platform well positions us for the agentic era going forward.
So let's talk specifically a little bit more about data and AI. And what are some of the proof points? I know that's what you all want to understand. In Q2, we talked about a $1.2 billion Data 360 plus AI, our ARR, 120% year over growth -- year-over-year growth from Q2. You'll also remember that in Q1, we talked about the $100 million in Agentforce revenue. As of Q2, inclusive of that Agentforce revenue and our new products, Slack is an example, employee agents, we grew our agentic AI ARR 400% or $440 million in revenue. Again, we're just getting started.
So let's talk a little bit more about the drivers of the consumption flywheel. Steve talked about all the gyrations of going through to get agents to work, being simplistic, moving to deterministic. The usage case starts when basic agents can answer questions, take action. We ultimately want them to be proactive. You heard from the two customers about how they're leveraging agents to work side by side.
What does that enable? It enables us to continue to support our customers 24/7. It enables our customers to have more authentic relationships and customized relationships even if they're not in the stores, right? And so what we believe is that with our deeply unified platform, our ability to move our customers from agentic over time to agentic enterprises is huge. And again, it just keeps that flywheel spinning. I have to figure out a way to make that go up into the right. That's our goal, right?
So this is a really important slide. I want you guys to all click in constantly, Robin, Miguel, Mark, Steve, Srini, how are we going to monetize the agentic enterprise? We are confident in the significant ARR expansion opportunity that we have as customers adopt the agentic enterprise.
Most of our customers today are more at the fundamental level, averaging three clouds, tier -- mid-tier level of support. But as they continue to move towards agentic, pre-agentic, expanding additional clouds, adopting industry solutions, a 1.2x ARR uplift. You heard from a few customers that are just beginning the agentic journey.
And I'm going to show you a few examples. But again, as they adopt Agentforce and support and core expansion -- and we believe even if in the future, as you heard Miguel say, we're not seeing much of it today, but even if we see some seat optimization, we still believe we have a 1.5 to 2x opportunity, right, relative to the ability to increase ARR.
But now the key point is going forward, moving our customers to agentic, leveraging the fact that you're going to have agents and people working side by side, scaling our customers' areas of support, solving difficult problems, reducing costs, reducing complexity, that is the agentic enterprise. And as people -- as customers adopt our Agentforce wall-to-wall internally and externally supporting their customers, we see 3x to 4x ARR uplift.
So I'm going to take you quickly through a few examples, and I'm not bringing up customers. But here's an example, customer goods customers starting with Agentforce. You can see when they've adopted it over time. You can see the revenue going back through FY '21. They started with a few of our clouds. They adopted more, moving to Agentforce, 1.5x since adopting Agentforce relative to the ARR that we're obtaining.
A telecom customer, they led with Data Cloud. Again, every customer is at a different point on their journey. But there, as they started with Data Cloud then adopted Agentforce, 1.4x increase in spending upon adoption of AgentForce.
And then my last example, consumer electronics. Customers -- this customer led with AI and data. And you can see them adding MuleSoft. But look at the acceleration of our ARR as they started adopting Agentforce. And as we said, we're early in the cycle. Yes, we are at an inflection point. Yes, getting to that double-digit revenue growth is going to take time. But we see it, our customers see it. The opportunity is ours to capture.
So again, $60 billion plus FY '30 revenue target, and again, excluding Informatica. Our pillars I just walked you through, multi-cloud, pricing and packaging, our balanced portfolio and most importantly, our innovation.
My second pillar of focus, operational excellence. So we -- as you know, we've been very focused on profitable growth. We continue to drive profitable growth while investing in innovation for all the reasons and context that you've just heard about.
Over the last 5 years, as you can see, we're on track to nearly double our operating margins. And there's some basic fundamental principles of how we've been doing that because, yes, you've heard about investments. We are investing in high-growth areas, but we're rebalancing our headcount across the business. Some of that, we're doing leveraging Agentforce, right?
You've heard us talk about help.com, right? You've heard Miguel talk about SDRs. But also, again, when you think about operational excellence, it's also the processes. We are focused on ruthlessly prioritizing where we spend our dollars. We're driving discipline and efficiency and most important, we're zeroing in on being customer 0. That's critical to us being the lean, agentic enterprise.
So what's our playbook? Miguel has a playbook for go-to-market. We've got a playbook of how we're going to become the lean, agentic enterprise. Miguel talked significantly about sales productivity. I'm going to talk about other components of our business. Srini, who had support, has been focused on Hyperforce, public cloud. What does that do? That helps us with gross margins.
We have been maniacally focused on customer health. Do we have the right level of ratios? Are we a performance culture? Are we leaning in, in our spans and layers? We're looking at all those areas. We have really attributed all of this to a beginner's mind as to how we run our business and being a lean agentic enterprise.
We also are leveraging our hub strategy, not only for sales, but for other areas. There are low-cost options for us to run our business, and we're doubling down in order to continue to focus on our lean agentic enterprise.
And lastly, AI efficiency. We hear about it a lot across our industry. It's real. We're taking advantage of it. And we're doing it primarily by leveraging our own products, Salesforce on Salesforce. I'm very proud to partner with our Chief Digital Officer, Joe Inzarello. We are stepping back and looking at all of our processes.
Starting with our lead to cash. What can we do to identify it? What can we do to simplify it? How do we leverage our own products to get better? So I talked a little bit about this before, but leading as customer zero is critical to us being a lean agentic enterprise. And I've covered a lot of these.
But on the sales and marketing side, we know that's a huge opportunity for us. COGS, R&D, I've talked both about these. If you think about it, what's happening in customer service, we're also reallocating resources. We're able -- because of our focus on Salesforce, help Salesforce.com, we're able to reallocate some of those folks to proactive service versus reactive service.
We're able to use some of those folks with the skill sets to really develop those forward deployed engineers who are critical to customer success. And what does that mean? It's going to improve our net new AOV. Again, another part of that inflection point that we talked about. And then, of course, there's G&A efficiency.
Like every customer out there that's experimenting and particularly for us, we've trained everybody on creating agents. And we've got a lot of them out there. But we're honing in, like everyone else, in deciding what are the high-impact agents.
For us now, there's about 40, right? And they're across our enterprise, working side-by-side with our employees on improving the employee experience, enabling our sellers, allowing us to better engage with our customers and driving our operational efficiency.
So the last area I want to briefly cover for you all is capital allocation. We talked about profitable growth. Well, what does it drive? Cash flow. We talked about our growth in operating margins. We are also on track to actually triple our free cash flow -- or I'm sorry, we have been on track to triple our free cash flow in 5 years. And of course, it will keep going up, right, as we meet those overall long-term objectives.
We have a capital allocation framework. Again, we doubled down and invested on organic innovation. And we've also done some inorganic innovation, but we have a responsible M&A framework in which we're doing it.
We've delivered and returned cash to shareholders via our dividend and our share repurchase program, which I'll talk about on the next slide. And we're also focused on reducing stock-based comp. So since the inception of our program, we've returned over $29 billion via share repurchases. And as you know, last quarter, we announced an additional $20 billion buyback.
What we're letting you know today and committing to is for the second half of FY '26, we're doubling down on share repurchases. So we expect to buy back another $7 billion of shares in the next 6 months. As you can see, it's a high percentage of our free cash flow. Over time, it's been about 80% of our free cash flow since inception of the program.
So I want to click in quickly to M&A because I know it's something that we get asked about, right? We're focused. I work hand-in-hand, as does the leadership team, with our M&A team. And we've kind of got these three pillars that we've looked at: tech and talent, adjacencies as well as strategic M&A.
You heard us in the keynote talk about Regrello, right? We have quickly integrated Own and Spiff, and the return on those investments have been amazing, and they're driving revenue growth. All of this has been guided by our responsible M&A framework.
A quick update on Informatica. We expect it to close either in Q4 or Q1. We're working through the regulatory process. It has been an amazing, to the extent you can, ability to work with that leadership team and figure it out how we quickly integrate. Steve talked about why Informatica is important, but I know for all of you, you want to understand the value, right?
We talked about a clear time line for accretion. We talked about using our balance sheet and not being dilutive and getting it at the appropriate valuation. What I'm pleased to say is we've worked through our integration plans as we work with their leadership team.
Six months ago, I talked about the fact that we expected it to be accretive within 2 years. Now it's 1. So another example that we're focused, we're being responsible, and we're delivering on what we said we're going to do.
So in summary, delivering a lean agentic enterprise. Our profitable growth framework, three pillars: our growth drivers, which you've heard about; our target, $60-plus billion in organic growth, excluding Informatica by FY '30; a focus on operational excellence, a profitable growth framework of 50 by FY '30, and you see the measurements below.
And finally, a continued focus on free cash flow expansion and reduction of SBC. And again, as I said, our model takes a little bit of time, but we're all very committed to delivering on these long-term objectives.
So I believe our CEO is here, or I'll turn it over to Mike, so Mike can introduce him.
Thank you, Robin. Thank you, Robin. That was great. Robin is not wrong. Our CEO is here. But because we're running a bit tight, we're going to combine a couple of things, and I'm going to have the crew bring up the leadership team and Marc with that, and then we'll ask Marc to say hello.
Just a couple of logistical dynamics I just wanted to highlight really quickly. The deck will be posted. It's being filed with the SEC currently, so you'll have access to all those materials.
Once we're done with Q&A, we definitely encourage you to stick around, have a drink where we have many members of our leadership team that will join. So there'll be lots of folks that you can pepper questions to, if so interested. And of course, we'll be available after as well.
So with that, I'm going to ask Marc and the leadership team to come on up and join me on stage, and then we'll get into the Q&A. Marc, welcome.
Are you all enjoying Dreamforce so far? All right. We have flights for you down to Oracle World now. The buses are leaving from the lobby of the St. Regis in 10 minutes.
So with that, we'll go straight to Q&A. And if we can turn up the lights a bit so I can see who's out there. And we'll start over here with Kirk. And we got mic runner, sorry, they'll catch up to you in a second.
2. Question Answer
Kirk Materne, Evercore ISI. Marc, you had a lot of customers up on the stage with you yesterday. Clearly, everybody is talking about AI, but customers seem to be having some trouble sort of going from the perceived value to seeing the value.
And I was just curious, when do you think that could change? Meaning you had some big customers on stage. Do you guys need to have a more industry-focused approach to this, meaning solving problems in each industry with AI to make sure that you get tentpole customers in each of those industries?
In the next 12 months, when we come back, does the FOMO kick in from other leaders that aren't there already because I think everybody has been waiting, but I'm just kind of curious on your thought process on the timing around that?
I think it's a good question. First of all, I just want to welcome you all to Dreamforce. Very happy that everybody is here and making the commitment to be here. We're very grateful to you. We know that you do have your choice of conferences to kind of reference my joke. So we're glad that you do come here. I hope that you do have a good time and that you have a safe experience while you're here.
I've been on the road for about 3 weeks nonstop now. We've been in front of hundreds of customers previewing this. The keynote is really linked to one fundamental thing that happened about 3 months ago, which just became incredibly clear to us that -- and it directly addresses your question, which is that what customers want to hear is that other customers are adopting.
There is no question that what we've seen in the last 3 years is that the speed of innovation has outpaced the speed of customer adoption, right? And that's because it was only about 3 years ago that we all got on ChatGPT for the first time and said, oh, here's a new foundational piece of technology that's going to change everything. And it's an awesome moment in technology whenever that happens.
And now after 3 years, of course, what happened was we kind of, first of all, began to integrate it in. That was our kind of GPT series of products. Then last year, you saw us deliver Agentforce as a product. And now you see us delivering Agentforce as a fundamental platform that is kind of underneath now all of our products.
So what we've had been able to do, and I think Steve just did a beautiful job articulating kind of the vision for what has happened, but this kind of just systemic, deep fundamental integration of this technology so that it's consumable by companies.
Because these companies, like the ones that you saw yesterday, maybe some of the most important companies in the world, maybe some of the most important CEOs or C-level officers in the world, all said the same thing, which is they need -- they love this idea that they want to be able to consume this technology, but they need to consume it through these applications. They need to consume it through this technology.
They can't just DIY it. They can't just kind of build their own model or do all this and then think that they're going to all of a sudden become this "agentic enterprise." They need a fundamental application platform. And that power is what we're trying to demonstrate.
And I think that to your point is number two, is that as we've spoken to these customers, they want to speak to other customers. I'll just stand up so you can see me. They want to speak to other customers, and they want to hear from other customers. They know what we have to say. What we have to say it doesn't bear as much as the customer.
That's why I'm actually -- probably the #1 thing that I'm looking for at the end of this conference is actually reading a lot of your reports, but also how many of you here are going to do surveys while you're here of our customer, raise your hand. Yes. And those surveys become very meaningful to us.
And I think what the surveys are going to say is that we've kind of hit this threshold where the customers are adopting. You saw this moment in the keynote at the beginning when I said, how many of you are already adopting Agentforce, and you saw how many hands went up, it was a significant number.
And I think that this is kind of what's happening, and they want that validation to hear from an Athina at Pepsi or a Richard Smith at FedEx or a Michael Dell or a Laura Alber or whoever it is or 50,000 of them across the street, by the way, they're all talking to each other on how to do it.
That's why they're here, right? We've never had more people at Dreamforce. Our pipelines, where's Miguel, have never been bigger. Our revenue projections have never been higher. Our cash flow has never been higher. Our profitability has never been higher. I don't think our product line has ever been more relevant and more powerful.
And for all of these customers who want to now achieve this next level of capability in their company, how are they going to do it? You go to all the conferences. You are the experts in enterprise software. How will they achieve this if they don't use this platform? Maybe there are some other things they can do.
We're not operating at the productivity level, as you know. We're operating at the core fundamental, enterprise, mission-critical layer so that these companies can deliver this capability. They all want to get to this next level. We are showing them here is exactly what to do. They want to know what it is. They want to know why it's important, and they want to know exactly how it works. And we're just laying it out.
And while we're doing that, you saw that we also bumped in to some new segments like supply chain. So here's Michael Dell. He's running 20,000 suppliers on Agentforce supply chain today. So it's important for us that not only does he come here to say, yes, I'm running service. I don't know if he was watching -- were you watching him during the keynote in his face, but he's looking directly at me.
And then there were certain moments in the keynote where like we got the field service and the different things that he hadn't seen in some of the new products. And he's like, oh, I'm going to go get some more of that because there's things that we can do to help him to achieve his vision of Dell become an agentic enterprise. But there's something that we can do for all of our customers to help them to get to the next level.
Remember, we have, I don't know, 150,000 core customers on the Salesforce platform and about 1 million on Slack. On all of those customers, we're trying to bring them to a whole new level. If you're with a Salesforce executive, have them show you their phone how we're already doing this at Salesforce, have them show you the agents running on Slack.
I was just across the street. I'm on this Yahoo! stream and I'm with these journalists. And I'm like, look, here's my phone, here's Slack, here's Agentforce and Slack. Let's renew this customer now. Let's sell to this customer now.
I think unlike probably some of the other shifts that we've been through, and we've been through so many. We've been through the cloud, social, mobile, even AI 10 years ago, Einstein and now agentic. Customers are surprisingly looking to us first, which is why I hired Joe Inzerillo about a year ago from SiriusXM and said, I need you to help me to rapidly move for Salesforce to become an agentic enterprise.
And we took him and we took him out of the G&A function, and he works directly for Steve. And that movement basically for me was that, okay, let's just go function by function by function. And first was service and support. So you've already seen that here we are, so this has only been live for, what, 9 months. Okay, we're delivering 1.6 million or so, probably more now service conversations.
1.8 million.
1.8 million. Okay. Tech support available 24/7 at Salesforce, 1.8 million. You guys can probably already know my numbers, like why am I even saying it? And then, right? And then the humans have done 1.8 million. And you understand how it's working. You saw the omnichannel supervisor. You saw how we're moving things back and forth. We had to show that.
Sales, here we are, 26 years in, we're -- all of a sudden, we were -- I guess there's about 20 million to 100 million people we didn't call back in the last 26 years, we just didn't have enough people to call everybody back. So yes, we have the Sales Cloud, we have our 15,000 AEs or whatever it is out there and complemented by the managers and the SDRs and the whole ecosystem. But now there's an agentic layer, even with all those people, calling back, this week, 50,000 people?
More than 100,000 people in total.
So far, 100,000 people that we've been live, just calling people back that we haven't been able to reach, qualifying, evaluating, et cetera.
We've closed deals. We've closed hundreds of deals already.
So as we kind of go from product by product by product, capability by product by capability, how are we defining humans and agents working together? In the process, the pipelines have expanded. We're hiring more reps. You saw the distribution capacity expansion. It's been very important. And all of a sudden, we found segments of the business in the world that we didn't realize that we were not selling aggressively into.
It was a huge surprise to Miguel. We didn't really go through it in detail, but obviously, Salesforce sells into six key segments. It sells into the small business, we call 0 to 200 employees. It sells into what we call the medium business, which is kind of the 200 employees to like 1,000 employees. It sells into the general business, which is kind of 1,000 employees to 2,000 employees.
It's kind of a very large business, even though this doesn't really qualify very, very large business, but over 2,000 employees; and to the software market, the ISVs and so forth and so on and the governments.
In those six segments, all of a sudden, Miguel is like, wow, I didn't realize, oh my God, look at that growth. Look at this growth rate, look at that growth rate. As we're adding capacity, then all of a sudden, we're like, oh, well, because that isn't exactly what we're doing in the last 3 years, which is very clear why we don't have to go through the details of the history, we were not watering all the trees.
We were not watering all the plants. All the gardens we were not. And it turned out like a lot of places where we had deforested, the seeds were still there, and we just needed to water, and all of a sudden, we saw growth. So that's very exciting. So we've significantly invested in the product and technology and innovation strategy. And you've seen kind of that next version.
There's never been a more exciting time. You saw it in the keynote. You can go across the street. You can see it in the eyes of the customers that they're lit up. It doesn't have the same kind of think that maybe we all had, the kind of confusion 3 years ago when we first saw this technology.
What does this mean? Who didn't have that thought? Now we're like, oh, this is exactly how I'm going to make money with this. This is how I'm going to improve my business with this. Here's exactly how to do it. Here are the proof points, and I can follow this model. That is a different level. That is why we're excited on a technology and product perspective. That's very important.
There's only two things that we do. One is building that product. The second thing is now selling it. So now on a global stage, across every geography, every language and across all six of those segments, we have to deliver the goods, and we have to deliver the growth. And we have to get to those -- the numbers are off the screen, but then we're trying to get to these very high numbers.
And obviously, we can all do the math. We're only going to spend a couple of years in the 40s. And we're going to rapidly move into the 50s. And this is obviously, as Robin said herself, very conservative. So we're very excited about where we're going.
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Well, I didn't know, I was in the back row. I'm not sure. But check the transcript. And then this is just a -- look, we're moving into rarefied air. How many -- you're all enterprise software experts, right? That's everybody's in the room. We know who's in the room. You guys have covered it, you've created it, you've made it. You know it more than anybody else.
We haven't really seen numbers like this in pure software. We're not making hardware. There's no data centers. It's not -- we're not building something the size of Manhattan. That's not -- we're a software hyperscaler, right? We're helping those customers get to where they want to get to across those six segments through this incredible platform that you've seen.
And I don't really see anybody else exactly doing with that and not at the level of excellence, quality and the technical leadership where we are. So I'm very excited about that. So I'm very excited about where we are with the products. I'm very excited about where we are across the six segments.
And with the customer awareness and consciousness, those words, that idea, we're moving to the agentic enterprise, where last year, it was like, hey, welcome to Agentforce. Now it's like, actually, one more thing. Here's all the -- it's now in every product, and you can now upgrade and update every single part of your business. And we're going to help you go into new areas.
So when we're with Athina at Pepsi yesterday or 2 days ago, of course, she's done a fantastic job. In fact, we were down in Mexico City on Monday or whatever Monday that was, I don't really know. This is San Francisco, right? But anyway, we're in Mexico City. We're with the Latin American leader, incredible woman. And she's leading, passing through all -- and they're a huge customer.
And I'm like, Athina, down there, amazing what we heard. I need to show you now because we hadn't even time to really -- I want to brief you, show you what Dell is doing with Agentforce supply chain and how we're also now going to do that with Pepsi.
And I think this idea that we're going to walk the clock for all of our customers, we have a lot to sell them. We have a deep and rich product line. It's updated, it's modern. It lets them bring in the best of the large language models, the best of AI, the tippy top of what the vision is of what you can build in terms of the next level of capability.
And I hope we can deliver it to them as their trusted partner. And I'm also hoping that we have 80,000 employees that we're bringing them all along as experts to become their trusted advisers in building agentic enterprises.
I don't know any other company that is as well positioned, both from a brand, personnel and also technology perspective to be that trusted partner. That is our goal. And your role in all of this is we are reading -- I'm personally reading every single report you're doing, every single survey you're doing.
You probably don't even realize what a critical role that you play in our strategy, especially in the last 3 years, we could not have gone as fast as we did without your research because so many exciting things has happened in the last 3 years. And so we have tried to integrate all of that.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing what you're going to say about the show. I'm really excited about what's happening across the street. I was really paying attention in the keynote to see how it was being received. I was watching the eyes, 12,000 people in the room, obviously, 50,000 people here. I saw there's over 1 million views on YouTube of the keynote.
Now obviously, we're going to get all of our employees trained. We will now deliver this show all over the world, as you know, on a cadence with our World Tour series, and we will -- our pipelines are super high. I'll tell you go through it in detail. I think customers want this. They need it. They've kind of in some ways, and this is what your research has shown, kind of been in some areas, been on pause on buying because they've been confused.
Then there are certain people in our industry, we don't go through names, that have said, oh, well, this is changing, that is changing. We don't know about this. There's like a certain amount of fud that's out there. It's like, no, no, this is actually your opportunity, and you can really kick as* if you do this.
And by the way, look at us, we're doing it. Why don't you want to do it, too? Oh, and Michael Dell is doing it, and Athina is doing it, and Laura Alber is doing it. And Alex at Pandora is doing it, and you can do it, too. You can look at how great this is. And I hope that, that's what's happening right now across the street that all these folks that have done it are like telling all those folks like, hey, yes, let's go do this together.
They're building networks. It's kind of like what's happening here. You guys are all building your network and exchanging cards and make sure you all have all your modern contact information. Across the street, all those customers are building community and then are going to execute this.
So I'm very excited. I'm grateful that you're here. It's obviously a huge show for us. It's really -- it's already exceeded my expectations. We've had -- already had a lot of fun, some crazy interviews. If you haven't seen what Brett Adcock said today on stage, it was amazing. I just interviewed His Excellency Minister Alswaha from Saudi Arabia. We just have a lot of really exciting things happen anyway. Thank you. That's it. Good bye and better not to say anything else. All right. Thank you.
Let's go...
All right. And that is the end of the Q&A session.
Let's go to that back side over there. I was going to Keith.
That was the summary of our three presentations, yes?
Great set of presentations. Keith Weiss from Morgan Stanley. Steve did a great job of walking through the role that the existing SaaS solutions and what you guys have built is necessary for delivering the generative AI functionality.
And it's something that I definitely believe in, and I've been talking to a lot of these, but investors are still concerned about not what the foundational models can do today, but what they're going to be able to do tomorrow, what they're going to be able to do 2 years from now because of the hundreds of billions of dollars of infrastructure we're building underneath it.
So does that concern -- I mean, do you hear that from your customers? Is that pausing sales cycles? Is that creating some of that fud? And if so, how do you counter that concern of, again, not what the foundational models do today, but what are they going to do tomorrow?
Well, I think that I just like to kind of -- I'll touch on it and then Steve has his position as well and I'll have Steve address it. But I'll just say, number one, look, technology marches forward. Innovation marches forward. Everything is getting lower cost and easier to use.
The show we're doing this year is not the one that we did last year, and it's not the one we did before. And how many of you have been to more than 10 Dreamforces? Raise your hand. How many have been to more than 20? There's been 23, this poor guy with the haircut right here. The thing is -- now he has time, he's retiring.
But the thing is that -- all right, go back 23 years ago to the slide deck, it's not the same show, it's not the same product line, it's not the same set of customers. It has gone forward. And the key thing for us is we're constantly bringing this new technology in and then adapting it for our customers so that they can be successful.
There's no question that in the areas that we specialize in, in the front office, especially, the transformational opportunity for the technology is just awesome and that the ability for the customer to embrace it and then extend it and bring it forward is awesome.
And like Julie Sweet was sitting there, obviously, she's a huge customer, but also she implements it for a lot of customers. And then at the end of keynote, she just came up to me and goes, you guys have got a lot faster than I expected. We have to retrain everybody and we have to like double down.
And I'm like, I think we really have. And I think that we want that infrastructure and we want that capability to get more value to our customers because we're going to sell it. We want to be that partner in implementing it. We want to help those customers to achieve that value and the promise of this technology.
Somebody is going to have to do that. Who else is going to build -- who's building out those organizations to deliver it. And I think when we look at other enterprise software companies like Microsoft, this isn't the -- you can go to the show and use the product line and talk to their customers, they're also across the street, right? They're also in the room. This isn't what they're selling.
So this is another opportunity. We're farther ahead. I think that it's only going to accelerate us. I think it's very exciting. I think we've also -- we're not having to take back a lot of the things we've said over the last 3 years. I think we have been mostly on point and we're accurate in predicting the future.
That is everything is tied together over the last, hopefully, 26 years, but especially even in the last 3 years of AI and how things are going, we've kind of said, here, this is where we're going, and we have now kind of put A and B and C, and we're going to deliver D now and on and on and on.
All right. And Steve, do you want to directly address the question technically?
Yes, thanks. And so it's a little bit what I was talking about earlier. It's kind of been the learning that...
Steve and I have only worked together for now.
Only for 45 years.
45 years. When we were 15 years old, we started our first software company together, Liberty Software down in Burlingame, and where Steve was from San Mateo and I was from Hillsborough, and I'm very proud to have Steve as our President of Products. So Steve?
All right. Well, thanks, Marc.
You're welcome. Good to see you, Steve.
So the -- early on, when really we had our -- Marc mentioned our ChatGPT moment and we were trying to understand, okay, what exactly is this -- how is this going to work for business? And we didn't really understand what was going on within these large language models.
I was very impacted actually by a podcast I listened to years ago from Kevin Scott, the Microsoft CTO. And he said -- what he said was, you have to understand, these LLMs are not platforms. They are not -- they're certainly not applications. They are infrastructure. They will provide new capabilities, astonishing new capabilities that we've never had access to before around language and limited reasoning.
I talked about this a little bit earlier in the day. But they need to be -- to be useful for business, they need to be embedded in platforms that can take advantage of that. And then you need to have new applications or existing applications that are rebuilt on top of that platform. And that really informed in many ways, our old strategy. And I think it was completely right and exactly how it played out.
Early on, 3 years ago, what was everybody saying? Well, we need to build a model. We need to build a model because in the old predictive AI world, that's what you did. You built models. And people are still doing that. Predictive AI is still relevant. But it turned out that actually this was really more about language capabilities, reasoning capabilities.
And if you -- it's too long, too latent, too expensive and not secure if you kind of think about it in that old way. And this was the conventional wisdom 3 years ago. Nobody is really doing that anymore in business, but that was the conventional wisdom.
And that was not right because there's no sharing model in an LLM. You need the up-to-the-minute data. So the data and the context and the unstructured data, all the work that we talked about earlier, that's not going to be in the model. You need to be able to feed it in.
So sometimes we use those words and people don't understand sharing model. So -- and I think we've also reviewed some platforms recently, and wait a minute, there's no sharing model here. So can you just explain what the sharing model is, why it's important and why that's at the core of our architecture?
Yes. So for well over 20 years, core -- built into the core of our platform has been you only get access to the data that you should have access to. That seems pretty obviously -- and critical for businesses. And as we expanded our data capability with...
Governments.
And -- I was getting to that. As we expanded our data capability with data cloud...
I'll make sure you got to it.
I'm working on it, Marc. Just give me a moment. As we expanded that, we've now added deep governance capability. I think one of the most exciting things we did really in the last 12 months was we dramatically expanded the governance capability within Data Cloud, which is at that level of scale, that's actually kind of a hard problem to solve.
It was hard enough at the scale or the B2B scale of kind of our traditional data capability, doing it -- that was millions or billions of records. Now we're talking about trillions of records. And so that is another -- so all of that, large language models, they're like kind of like us. I can tell Marc, Marc, this is super confidential. You cannot tell anybody. I guarantee -- especially with you, I guarantee, within a few hours, it's going to be out there on text, probably the most of you.
That is human nature. And these LLMs are kind of weirdly like that. They like -- and you've actually been the one to kind of put this language in my mind. They are these language models. They're word models. Their mission is to figure out what is the next word that I should be saying. And they're going to do their best to give you great words that will be...
That's why they're always so accurate, too, because the words are just hyperlinked together in some strange way. And so the accuracy that's possible in a word model is only so...
Exactly, they do not keep secrets. They do not -- they try their best to tell the truth, but we all know this. You use ChatGPT -- I use ChatGPT every day. And it's pretty good, but it's not 100%. And in the world of business, you need to be able to feed in that data. And -- but you only -- but if one user is asking for data, you don't want the LLM to have it all baked into its model.
You need to be able to feed in, but only feed in the data that's relevant. Marc gets one view of the data and I get a different view and all of you would get a different view. That's part of enterprise software. That's what's necessary. And the same thing is true for taking actions.
It needs to be embedded in the applications to be valuable. It needs to be accessible across all the channels, whether that's chat or voice or SMS or WhatsApp or e-mail or whatever it is. All that -- LLMs don't do anything -- any of that.
But the most important lesson, this is what I spent a decent bit of time in the morning talking about is that even when you have all of that, you've got the secure data, you feed it in and you figured out how to actually massage that data appropriately so that it gets the accurate answers, that was the context intelligence, I think, breakthrough that we're delivering right now.
But even then, even when you tell the LLM in clear, consistent language, do this, don't do this, I talked about this earlier quite a bit. They sometimes do and they sometimes don't. And that's why these deterministic workflows, these deterministic instructions, even in the bowels of the brain of the agent, it's -- something kind of changed, and I was guilty of this also as I was brainstorming and thinking about, well, these things will just figure it out.
But it doesn't make any sense. If you actually know step by step what you want to do and you can look at what the response is and know exactly what you want to then do and you want your return process to be your return process or your order management process to be your order management process or whatever it is, why would you turn that over to the LLM, which is going to be slower and more expensive and not 100% accurate.
This is not, in any way, meant to say anything that the LLMs are the most astonishing technology I have ever seen, but they have their place. They are not going to replace all the other work that's been done. They're going to augment it. They're going to make it more powerful, more compelling. They're going to take employees to the next level.
They're going to allow you to scale in ways you never have before, astonishing, but you still need everything else. When you know what you want it to do, just do it. You don't need the LLM for that. You need the LLM more for when you don't really know what you want it to do and it can step in there in an astonishing way.
The last thing you said is extremely important. So the last thing that he just said was the LLM is extremely important, and you want it to do its job when it needs to do its job, but we all understand what the costs are of using the LLM and these GPUs, right, and these tokens.
And we also have that there's another mechanism, right? And this idea to be able to like choose the LLM when you need it and also there's going to be a moment when you're not going to choose the LLM. But I think directly addressing your point is there is a certain amount of I would just say nonsense that's out there, like, for example, that these products are writing all the software now.
And that is not what's happening. There is a productivity improvement. It definitely gives you the ability to do more. You can do a lot of things. You just cannot do everything. We haven't seen that capability. You've all seen that.
And then we'll see, well, you know we can now write this. And it's like, really, okay, well, let's take a look at that. And then how are you going to maintain it? And how are you going to sell it and show it to us exactly and show us that this is exactly what you're saying.
And I think that there's a lot of folks who are trying to be very prothetic and visionary and aggressive in what they're saying about a lot of this technology and trying to position themselves. Some of them are prophets and some of them are false prophets. And it's going to be up to you to separate the wheat from the chaff. And that is very much your job.
And you're going to see it with the customers because with the customers you're going to say, well, are you doing -- are you using it that way? Is that what's happening? And I think that's very much where we are in the industry right now. I don't know...
Maybe I'd add something that is very important, Marc, I don't know if you were here, but this is exactly what our customers are telling us, the two customers that I had here on stage and also the five stories that I told, their aha moment is when they realized that to -- for deterministic execution, they needed the apps.
So SaaS is going into a new chapter, which is where we're becoming the hub for agentic execution in a trusted way in a way that we maintain governance and compliance and security. That's very powerful. And the anecdote that I drop here in front of everyone here is if you look at the four pure-play LLM providers, they tripled the investment in SaaS applications from Salesforce in the last 12 months.
But what I didn't tell you is, you guys want to know what is the #1 segment, the fastest-growing segment in our business right now is all the AI companies, there are hundreds of them. Our business with them is skyrocketing. These are the companies that supposedly are going to run the workflows and everything. But for now, they're buying SaaS applications from Salesforce.
And if I was an LLM company, then I would say to you, well, LLMs can do everything. But it may not be the right tool for the right job. It may be that you have that as part of your infrastructure, which I think is what Steve said, and you're going to choose it at the right moment, and that there's going to be different ways to address different problems.
And what's great is we have a portfolio of technologies and then we can choose the right technology at the right time for the right customer. I don't know if this -- does this make sense? Is it congruent to what we're saying? Do you want to add any more?
No, I think that's good.
Okay. Let's go to Kash here.
Kash Rangan at Goldman Sachs. Since you guys give...
I thought you retired. What is that point exactly?
January 30 next year. Unfortunately, you're stuck with me. At the end of your fiscal year.
All right.
I don't have questions because my colleagues are going to ask you a great question, but I want to make a few observations. From right to left, Parker Harris, great memories of -- at a bar, watching the 2008 Presidential election, while Dreamforce was going on, so great memories. Srini, you wrote a great white paper, which I've been suggesting to everybody what the new architecture of Salesforce is. So great job. Steve Fisher, you may not remember me, but -- you do?
I remember you.
You taught me -- I asked Marc, what is metadata? And he said, you got to meet Steve. In 2005, you taught me what metadata was. And I think, Parker, you were in the same meeting, you taught me what multi-tenant was in 2005, I want to say. So great memories.
Marc, I'll get to you at the very end. Spencer, great job. This is incredible Analyst Day. I don't think anybody has brought together the entire management team on one stage. And Miguel, I've not met you before, but obviously, great energy. Robin, great job on the reacceleration. That is the most important message that I took away.
Marc, for you. I spoke with a $90 billion revenue company earlier today, and I asked them, hey, rank where everybody is in this agentic technology? He said, not just because they are at Dreamforce, but they said that you guys were ahead of ServiceNow or any other company they've been working with.
Everybody has respectable technology, but they viewed your agentic capabilities as ahead of even OpenAI. So I just want to wish you well in this journey. I think when we met, you were doing $50 million in revenue or so. Here we are. I think $60 million is too low. I think you should dream bigger. $100 million, why not?
We are. But this -- Robin will only let us say so much. I'm happy to say more.
Thank you, and wishing you well.
Thank you. Kash, before we go on, I think we all owe you actually a debt of gratitude. It has been decades. We obviously have fun together, the hair and also you're the only one who is singing of the analysts. So I don't know who will be the one who will pick up your opportunity, but I want to thank, on behalf of the entire software industry, probably the analyst community as well, for your decades of great leadership, visionary work, all the writing, the surveys, customer interactions, and we could not have done our job without you. So thank you very much for everything that you've done for us.
Okay. Let's go over here to Brent.
I will not be singing. It's Brent Thill with Jefferies. Marc, Miguel talked about the SMB acceleration and the success you're having with SMB. What is happening there? Why is it doing so well? And when does this filter into the enterprise where you can see that same level of success upmarket?
Yes. It's phenomenal, what's happening, and the growth rates are incredible. I don't know if we went through them with you in detail, but -- okay. But in small business, but in medium and general business, in those three segments very specifically, obviously, I went through that we have six segments that we're selling into. Three out of the six, the growth rates are outside of our imagination.
And I think that there's two reasons why. One is because we are watering the fields, and we did the forest at some level. And fortunately, for us, the seeds are still there. Two is I think we're going to see an absolute explosion in small business and in mid-market. I think we're seeing the beginning of something that is going to be huge.
One reason is because in the world of technology adoption, they can go faster because they can just do more. Two is they have to. They don't have the DIY choice that some of these companies do. So some of the customers we profiled yesterday, they can DIY it or they can buy it, right? And in those segments, they can't DIY it. Also -- so they can make the decision faster.
And another key reason is this technology is benefiting them more dramatically because they can now start to look and act and work like large businesses where before they were small, medium and commercial-sized businesses from the 0 to 2,000. And I think that we are seeing that now start to creep up into the larger businesses.
I feel -- and then the government will be, of course, is going to come kind of at the end of the technology adoption curve. So this is just, I think, has spoken to how things have done before.
Now remember, maybe we're probably one of the only companies that you follow that we have to deliver solutions that go from 0 -- companies from 0 to millions of employees. So of course, we're with Walmart. We're with companies with millions of employees. And then we're with companies with a few employees.
I was with someone last night at dinner who had four employees. So our software has to go from the smallest to the largest company in the world, that's our burden to carry. Our technology has to make them all agentic enterprises. We have to span the entire market. We can see across the whole software market. We can see across every geography.
So we have incredible clarity into what's growing where, speed of growth, and we're incredibly optimistic on these segments. And then, by the way, on these large enterprises, the pipelines are growing incredibly quickly. We are also extremely optimistic on these very large companies.
I mean I haven't talked to Miguel yet and debriefed on how his conversations went yesterday. But my conversations have been all incredibly optimistic, and I think that we're showing these companies, and they're getting validation from each other that there's a lot more to do with this technology.
If we start to breach into these very high growth rates, I mean, it will be remarkable because as you can see from the screen, while the slide keeps getting taken down, we're already at very high levels of revenue and bookings. So I don't think anybody is selling more enterprise software this year than we are.
You'll have to tell me, you're the experts. And we are on the pole position, and I think this is the fundamental accelerator. And thank you, Kash, for saying, we agree, we think we're far ahead of anybody else. We haven't seen any other product where we went, oh, wow, they've done a much better job on this agentic integration than we have.
Like we think that -- especially in our core, but now we're starting to come into new areas that we're far ahead. And if you talk to -- if you get Steve aside and you can kind of look at -- and I don't know if John Somorjai is in the room, but he's just done a brilliant, brilliant job as an investor of investing in so many great companies, but also just we have a tremendous window into all the innovation and all the different companies.
So all of a sudden, we can look at 100, 200 companies, 300 and then go, oh, wait a minute, we want to buy Regrello. Oh wait, we want to buy this one. Wait, we need that. Oh, wow, that is -- this is great. Wait, that one is duplicative. This one isn't as far along as they think they are.
We think we have that clarity, and we're trying to move at a level of speed that we -- I don't think we've ever moved this fast. And if you just take out the deck from a year ago, you'll see it's not the same deck, and it's not the same product line and yet it is. So that's what's very exciting for us.
And I really hope that a year from now, my dream is that we'll just see more acceleration of these core products, of this agentic -- that we will not have to take back the agentic enterprise vision and say, well, no, we didn't get it right. No one wants to become an agentic enterprise. Sorry, everybody. We're now on to this new thing. I think that we're going to go forward.
So Marc, by the way, we are seeing acceleration in all the six segments, even the ISV segment, even the public sector segment, the enterprise segment. The big unlock to get into the high teens and even more in the enterprise is going to be the ILS. You have no idea of the conversations. Every company, every large enterprise want to do an agentic enterprise license agreement. And then one soundbite that I had that Adam...
Well, I think you should tell the story like you have this breakthrough.
But I said that we had it together. And I presented the slide on the ILS and it's -- I mean, after you explained it in a...
I moved to Europe for the summer, and Miguel and I were making a lot of sales calls. And then all of a sudden, we realized, wait a minute, these customers want all they can need on agentic. And we hadn't seen that in a while.
It used to be back in the day when we have these unlimited license agreements, especially kind of Miguel and I both exited from the Oracle days when the ULA kind of started. And then this idea that we're coming back into the agentic enterprise license agreement. And when we're selling to some of our very large customers who probably won't use the names, it's like, oh, wait, we should be -- they want to do a much broader standardization.
They want predictability. They want predictability. And they are willing to pay significantly more for our platform because they're going to use it for a different purpose, which is digital labor.
And there's a lot of trust with us...
There is a lot of trust. But the soundbite that I forgot to mention, but Adam Alfano, our leader for SMB globally, he told me, Miguel, I cannot really go in detail into the numbers and what happened in September, in August, et cetera, is incredible. But -- Marc will go into the numbers for sure. But what he said is we're growing significantly faster than a pure play like HubSpot in the low end of the market, which is pretty impressive because we have to serve all segments.
Yes. I'm not going to go through the details, but it is very impressive where we've been. I think we can do this.
Okay. Let's go to the next question. Let's go to Mr. Murphy here in the middle.
I'm Mark Murphy with JPMorgan. I'm trying to picture, if I called Salesforce 26 years ago, Marc, and I'm getting a call back now, and it's been a little while.
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It's a robot voice calling me back. I mean, is there a little awkwardness? It sounds like it's working. And so I'm just trying to understand, are the callbacks from the...
It could be a call back, but it could also be an e-mail. So it could be an e-mail exchange back. So it could just be something -- now all of a sudden, maybe you've gotten one of these texts on your phone. Hello? And it's like, wait a minute, sorry, who is this? What's going on? And then all of a sudden, it's like, wait, suddenly a robot is trying to talk to me.
There's -- this is a little more sophisticated, and it could be an e-mail, it could be a text or it could be a voice. And in all cases, I think, yes, you'll get a call back, a follow-up and a repeat follow-up until you say stop, and it's working. And I think it's going to benefit all customers.
Okay. So is that a chunk of this -- the 19% pipeline growth, Miguel, is this something that's factoring in there with the -- and something that will kind of help relative to Robin's guidance?
Currently, I told the team that is leading this SDR agent army, we're going to hide this, is going to be upside, it's going to be a surprise for Robin, hopefully. But the calling back and the following up on the leads, the beautiful thing about it is that it's highly personalized. I mean an SDR that takes care of 6,000 leads per month, he or she cannot personalize the communication with the leads the way our SDR agents, AI SDR agents do.
So I'm very excited. We rolled them out 6 weeks ago. We're already in the hundreds of thousands. We've closed already 130 or 140 deals. We're generating millions of pipeline. So give us some time to go full scale and cover 100% of the leads, and I think we're going to have a positive impact.
The other component of it, I think that you need to think about is there's the AEs that we have on the ground with customers, but it's the support ratios and some of those things where the way we follow up on these contracts, that's the opportunity for us when we think about the productivity, like are there other ways to streamline or use digital labor as opposed to actual labor to do that.
Let's go here to Mr. Bachman in the middle.
It's Keith Bachman from Bank of Montreal. I'd like to direct my question to Robin and Miguel. But before I do that, I want to advocate for you, Robin, in that I heard you say the 12- to 18-month time frame to get to double digits is conservative. You didn't say 60 was conservative. I think Marc might have been misconstruing the words there. So that relationship was understood.
We'll also be bringing you in on the compensation negotiation.
My question is, Robin, the construct to double-digit growth, I wanted to just ask you about that. And the way I think about it is you have -- as you talked about, you're in the beginning phases of more wide-scale agentic adoption. So that's a new revenue stream.
But what investors are also concerned about is what we call the core platforms. Candidly, the growth has been disappointing. And so to get to double digit, how do you think about that? Is it because of agentic gets big enough that it's more material? Or is there some reinvigoration, if you will, of what we call the core platforms?
Now you mentioned ELAs and things like that. But just help us understand and particularly what I'm asking about is the core platform. And if you really want to drill down, there's tremendous trepidation around commerce and marketing within that context. So that's it for me.
I think it's a really good question. And I think what we're trying to show, if you think about the overview, the slide that Steve talked us through. And just being new in my role, you always step and say, are we appropriately talking about our business.
And I think what you've heard us talk about is it is the -- we talk about the clouds, but we're selling really these agentic enterprises, and we're seeing AI and Agentforce drive further adoption, further usage of our core. But as we showed in the various examples that you saw, you kind of start there and then you grow.
But you're right. I mean, we have a huge base, 100,000 customers, the Walmarts to the SMBs, right? But -- and we also remember a component of the agentic revenue is consumption-based, which is different than seat-based. So yes, we're working through all of that as we think about growth going forward. But I'll let you maybe take that.
I think, by the way, this is very, very close to Steve's heart because we talk about core clouds and then we talk about agentic. The reality is our Sales Cloud is now Agentforce Sales Cloud. Our Service Cloud is -- I mean, you cannot conceive a selling motion or a service motion or a field operation motion without agentic embedded on it.
So when we look at the clouds internally, our numbers are much better than the ones that you see because agentic is assigned to each of the clouds. It's very hard to handicap a cloud and say, okay, you need to grow, but you need to grow without AI and agentic.
Well, the world is AI and agentic. It's like when you're selling on-prem, okay, whatever is on cloud, it doesn't come to the core cloud. Well, the cloud has evolved. And our clouds have evolved. And that's why we look at the overall AOV growth and the revenue growth. But Steve, I mean, you love this topic.
Just to caveat, our numbers aren't significantly different, right? I mean, so our core -- I mean when we do break out our clouds and we add our agentic, we provide those numbers. So I just want to be sure, to your point, yes, it does take time to see that flow through subs and support revenue as we ramp.
Sorry, I was talking about -- I was talking about the bookings.
I just want to be sure we stay -- yes.
And also, I think I appreciate your particular question on commerce and marketing. And we have worked -- that was -- they were a bit of a different challenge because those were not on our core platform. I talked about this earlier.
And it is a -- I'm sure you can appreciate, it is an extremely heavy lift to bring at-scale technologies, in many cases, multiple at-scale technologies in the case of Marketing Cloud and make it all coherent with the rest of this new emerging platform with data and AI and everything that we talked about before to really allow you to break down all of those silos.
And for -- I would -- if you have an opportunity, I don't actually know when the Commerce Cloud keynote is, but I know the Marketing Cloud keynote is tomorrow. And if you're interested in this, I would really encourage you to go because the agentic capabilities, not only having marketing now seamlessly across sales, service and commerce and industries and all of that, it was really on the side. It was really excluded from all of that before.
Now through -- especially through Data 360, Data Cloud and Agentforce, it's all coming together. And at least -- this hasn't landed yet. This is happening next week and then really final happening in about 3 months of being able to take not only identifying all the steps along the way to creating campaigns and you can use AI to generate your campaign brief and to figure out your segments and all of that, that's extremely cool. But it's really going to be different.
Marketing to date has been, you send out a lot of messages and you kind of hope for a small hit rate, maybe people will click and go to a landing page. And typically, that landing page is not a very personalized landing page, but it's going to be completely different.
Marketing is going to become truly one-to-one. People -- you're going to get the messages, whether they're e-mails or text messages or WhatsApp messages or whatever it is, whatever the latest channel will be, it will be across all channels because our platform is channel agnostic. We support everything. And at the other end, if the customer wants, is going to be an agent.
And we've been in the world of how many times you see in the from field no reply or do not reply. Well, now it's going to become please reply. And you're going to be able to build a relationship and have an engagement at massive scale. It's just -- it's a whole new idea that's never been possible before.
Now that's released on certain channels today, but by the end of our fiscal year, that's going to be the future of marketing. And it's going to really start to blur the lines between, okay, is this a sales call or is this a marketing call or is this a service engagement and people are going to ask questions and sometimes those questions will be on point.
But sometimes they just want to know about their orders or other products or who knows where it's going to go. And then when you actually do go to a website, that's also going to be the -- all websites. Now this is going to take a little bit more time. But imagine the world where all websites are agentic.
We have a little bit of that today if you go to salesforce.com that we have an agent there. And the agent, you'll be able to navigate the website the normal way, that's not going away, but now you'll be able to have a conversation.
And the agent will be able to rebuild the web page or bring up a new page and highlight for you the information you're interested in or landing pages will become highly personalized and relevant knowing everything that we know about you kind of like you were asking about the SDR agent earlier. And is that going to be a robotic voice? And is it going to be -- and when we saw -- originally, it was e-mail.
When we -- if we could show you these e-mails, it was kind of astonishing, not only what it knew about the person, but what it knew about the products and it knew about the questions. And actually, some of these people were kind of angry with us because they had been disappointed in some way, and we were able to help them get their answers. It's really so interesting how this is going to play out.
So we're pretty bullish, at least I'm pretty bullish on the future of marketing with agentic marketing, the future of commerce with agentic commerce, both for merchants and for shoppers. All of that is really yet to play out, but it's all landing in our products by the end of this fiscal year.
This has been a heroic effort from product and engineering to fully rewrite the marketing and commerce products for the agentic era. And we're really showing it for the first time at the show, and we're about to deliver it to the customers over the next few weeks.
So we really would like your feedback. I get back to what I said on the first few sentences, really need your data, really need your surveys. I want to hear what the customers are thinking.
I think that we have built a whole family of products that we think represents what the future of the enterprise looks like. And I think that customers are able to see it for the first time. And I think that we're obviously marching towards -- I keep -- I'm looking at the same slide that -- I'm looking at the slide, but you're not looking at it.
I don't know what message they're trying to send me, but there's two slides, by the way, which is one slide is $60 billion, 10% and then Rule of 50 by fiscal year '30. And the funny thing about that is I just keep doing that in my mind. I guess that Rule of 50 means that if you subtract the growth rate that, that's what the margin is, that's how it works, right?
Kind of, yes.
So you can start to and then you take that number and multiply it by 60, and then you get a pretty healthy margin number. So profitability numbers. These are impressive numbers. [ Parker ], do you want to add anything? You're putting the mic up.
Do I want to add anything? I think I've never seen a better integrated product that Steve has led, Srini is transforming really how we go to market in terms of service and leading the four deployed engineers. I've never seen clearer slides around our financials than from Robin. So I just want to re-welcome Robin to the company now as a Board member. It's incredible. And Miguel, obviously, for sales in the pipeline.
So I've never been bullish on where we're at. I really like that we're being much more transparent. We're showing you that net new AOV and coming back to growth. And that's the reality. We see so much that you can't see. And we try to explain it to you.
And I think our model has always been confusing to many of you, no offense, that it's a recurring revenue model and some of what you see is light from a distant star and we're seeing in the future. We're trying to kind of explain that and show you where we are in time as well as projecting out. And I think Robin has really led that a lot, and Miguel and obviously, Marc, to kind of show you where we're going because we are super optimistic about our future. And hopefully, you can see that from all the talks today.
Okay. So just -- the slide you're seeing now is the slide. And then just see on -- and then there's the second slide that I was -- that's what I kept looking at. So you can't see the second slide. Can you go to the next slide? Yes, there it is. So then I was saying to Robin, it was kind of an algebra thing that you're going to take. That was the point that I didn't want you to think I was saying something that you didn't have the option of hearing.
Okay. So we're going to wrap it there. We have several leaders I need to get to other keynotes urgently. So my watch has been blowing up with messages. So again, I appreciate you all joining us today. We do have a cocktail hour.
Mike, I want to just thank you for having a great IR Day and taking such great care of these analysts. How many of you are coming to Metallica tonight? Anybody coming to Metallica or Benson Boone night? Nobody is coming? What?
There's some...
Raise your hand if you're coming to the concert. Okay. A couple are coming. All right. Everybody else is going home. Too bad.
So we'll be around. Please have a drink. We can answer more questions over cocktails. Thank you all.
Thanks so much, everybody. Thank you.
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Salesforce — Analyst/Investor Day - Salesforce, Inc.
Salesforce — Analyst/Investor Day - Salesforce, Inc.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce positioniert sich auf dem Analyst Day als Plattform für die „Agentic Enterprise“-Transformation: Data360 (einheitliche Datenbasis), AgentForce (Agentik/LLM‑Layer) und neu gestaltete Apps bilden eine integrierte Wertschöpfungskette. Management hebt hervor, dass LLMs nur in Verbindung mit Daten, Governance und deterministischen Workflows echten Unternehmensnutzen liefern.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Plattform: Data360 bietet „zero‑copy“ Federation zu Snowflake/Databricks & Co. und macht externe Datenspeicher direkt in Sales/Service/Marketing nutzbar.
- Agentik: AgentForce‑Script, Testcenter, Session‑Analytics und „intelligent context“ verbessern Determinismus und Genauigkeit bei Dokumenten/Unstructured Data.
- GTM: Neue Preismodelle (seat, consumption, Flex, ELAs), massive Capacity‑Aufstockung, Forward‑Deployed‑Engineers (FDE) und Partnerprogramme zur Beschleunigung der Adoption.
🔎 Neue Informationen
- Kommerz: Management erwähnt bereits abgeschlossene Enterprise‑ELAs (ein Dutzend) und ~150 ELAs in Verhandlung; Angebote reichen von seat‑Bundles bis zu unbegrenzter Data/Agent‑Nutzung für definierte Agentic‑Use‑Cases.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Adoptionstempo: Wann setzt FOMO ein? Management sagt, Kundenreferenzen treiben Adoption; Ergebniswirkung sichtbar, aber vollständige Umsatzwirkung braucht Zeit.
- LLM‑Risiko: Analysten fragten zu Modell‑Unsicherheit; Antwort: LLMs sind Infrastruktur — deterministic Workflows und Governance bleiben zentral.
- Marktsegmente: Starkes SMB‑Momentum sichtbar; Frage war, wie sich das auf Enterprise‑Wachstum und Kern‑Clouds (z.B. Marketing/Commerce) überträgt.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call/Analyst Day liefert klares Produkt‑ und Monetarisierungsnarrativ: integrierte Agentik + Data = neue Verbrauchs‑ und ELA‑Erlösquellen. Chancen sind groß (Managementziel: $60+ Mrd. Umsatz bis FY‑2030, ~10% CAGR), Risiken bleiben bei Produkt‑Reife, Messbarkeit der Business‑Outcomes und Rollout‑Tempo.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, everyone. This is Emmanuel. I'm your host today. Welcome to the session Trusted Services: Getting Your Data Protection Strategy in Motion. My name is Emmanuel Schweitzer. Yes, I'll introduce myself a little more properly in the jiffy. But I'm excited to walk you through our Trusted Services deck today and see all the services that are available in that part of the Salesforce portfolio just for having 10,000 feet view of what's available, and we'll focus on everything that's related to data protection.
All right. About myself, Emmanuel Schweitzer. I have the privilege of being Australian, French and German. That's probably a lot. I am a distinguished. engineer -- solution engineer with public sector. I'm based in Brisbane, it's actually sunny today. I've been with Salesforce for a little more than 6 years going to 7. I've been in Australia for almost 9 years and I'm a European citizen at heart as well.
Among my passions are photography and traveling the world to get just a perfect chart. So going from Svalbard all the way very close to down to South Africa and anything in between I am also proud father of a son of 9 and a proud husband of my wife, Valerie. And yes, always happy to have a chat about any topics professional or personal if we share interests.
Thank you for attending. I really appreciate your time. We're all very busy, and I think there's a lot of competition for our attention. So I appreciate your interest in Trusted Services. And as a bit of introduction of the Zoom system, if you don't know it. [Operator Instructions] I will not be able to see the QA and chat while I present, but there will be a time towards the end of our presentation when we will gather and go through any questions you may have.
And hopefully, I can answer most of these as we go, but I may need to take it your notice, and I'll make sure to note down your details and get back to you as soon as possible.
All right. Our general topic today is going to be around how you can protect your data and constitute directions, they need strong data governance. Data used in the public sector without governance would mean data flowing in and out of multiple systems and recoverable data in case of accidental loss or corruption. Of course, having older data sometimes 10 years back that is neither relevant or compliant, having different user permissions and access.
So most organizations don't have a fully proper data governance. And so they would be unfettered access issues with lack of compliance. I think they lack visibility around outputs. Customers are interested in data flowing in and out of systems that you forget about or isn't harmonized and so on and so forth. So it's all about organizing data with governance strategy and protecting the data, relevant data for the end user archived when nothing used because sometimes you need to keep it for legal purposes. Obviously, protected for compliance so that the wrong people don't access it and obviously backed up for any plan B. It could be accidental loss of data. It could be malicious loss of data as well. So it's something that we need to cater to.
So trusted data is key for any public sector program. And as we delegate routine tasks to agents or third parties, it allows people to lean into more high-risk high judgment decision areas when governance is really important. Trusted data must take center stage when there's so much leeway.
And good trusted data is key to the outputs we seek. So it's really important to get that right, something personalized, something relevant, something compliant and ensuring they are speedy transactions so that we get our customers where we need them faster than before. We'll be able to reduce the work of admin risk affairs as well.
All right. So if you are Salesforce customers, you understand that the SaaS shared responsibility model is key and understanding that is key. So everything is built on the foundation of trust. And as a big part of our responsibility lies with Salesforce, It's all about building our innovative secure solutions and having the infrastructure to support that. That is also preparing customers for evolving threats and offering the tooling to deal with that.
It's delivering reliable access to data and systems. Now there is a bit where you are responsible as well. It's to implementing the control specific to your business, and this is why we offer so many tools to deal with role-based access control and sharing rights and things like that. You want to control that access usage and performance, you need to check that the people that log in on your system are actually the people they pretend to be, and that's -- there's nothing fishy about it.
And of course, you need to ensure data integrity and resilience. You don't want the data to be tempered with. You want the customer data to remain safe and be able to cope with the unpredictable. So this is where Trusted Services come into play. So our trusted services range provides trusted data security, compliance, resilience for your Salesforce data. It helps you minimize risk, address ever-changing regulatory requirements, and it hopefully helps avoid permanent data loss.
And we've acquired what used to be a third party on their own company. And they're now part of our Salesforce portfolio. So we've deepened our existing products and provide our customers with native solutions that enable trusted data for trusted relationships with your constituents.
So if you want to ensure that you're making So if you want to ensure that you're mitigating [indiscernible] in your data, Shield allows you to keep always on pulse of user activity, having obviously encryption going on. Security center part of the portfolio will have full visibility across multiple orgs for permissions, access, data classification or if you wanted to ensure that you're handling your data across many Salesforce sandbox of production orgs and deal with regulations in your region or specific business area, Privacy Center, Data Mask and Seed will help you throughout the compliance journey.
Finally, if you want to make sure that your sensitive data has a proper backup and archiving protocols, then obviously, Backup and Recover Salesforce Archive will help you future-proof your data. And this is really the area where we're going to focus today.
All right. Just to give you an overall idea of the key areas we'll focus on today. I kind of laid out the different layers of the Salesforce architecture with a shared responsibility model and it comes through to life with our data security compliance and resilience functionality. There's built-in controls that you can configure with profile settings, [ rolearchys ], record level, data classification levels.
That's your bread and butter, I'm sure, as you use the Salesforce platform. At the same time, we have to consider how to enhance those controls by knowing who does and sees what, when, where and how. And we may look into creating policies for data retention, data masking, transaction security and more with those add-on products.
So among all those add-ons, we're going to focus on the ones that are highlighted in orange here, which is Data Mask and Seed, Backup and Recover, Archive and Discover. Discover is probably a hidden gem, and I certainly wouldn't want to finish the web seminar today without having a few words about it.
So moving on to the strong governance foundation for your program. Again, we'll have a particularly look at one of a functioning Shield, which is data detect, which I think is really important to safeguard your data and that of your constituents. Data Mask and Seed as part of the compliance and then data resilience will have a look at a full lot.
Right. Let's start with Data Detect. So it's all about finding, addressing and classifying sensitive data. With Data Detect, customers can quickly find a sensitive information in the Salesforce instance that you might not even know exists. So it's typically the data that gets captured by people in the fields, typically long text fields where it's not supposed to sit, especially PII. So customers are able to define policies. You should able to do that related to which type of information you consider sensitive.
Let's think about Medicare numbers, credit card details, but that idea to put that in a long text fill, isn't it? And you'd be able to scan org for data and identify where that might be stored and eventually act upon that.
So if you don't know what data you have and you don't know how you feel about the data, then you don't know how you can protect it. So it's really about getting the clarity and being able to address that. So all about this kind of GA. We've added pattern matching-based scans as a pilot at the moment. And obviously, if a pilot successful based on everyone's feedback, that will eventually go to general availability as well. So I think that's a nice part, nice extension of the what used to be the Shield portfolio with [indiscernible] functionality that makes sense.
So on the data compliance side, again, we're not going through sandboxes and privacy center. It could be [ walls ] web similar on the topic. But I want to talk mostly about data mask and seed. But for general purpose information, if you don't know those areas, data privacy, it's really important for good data governance and the strategy that's associated to that. So it's critical for the business, maintaining customer trust and comply with regulations. And we have a few. And we have more regulation coming up in Australia around protection of customer data and being able to address any request that they would make around it.
So some questions you can ask yourself and your team as, are you currently protecting sensitive data? Have you automated compliance yet? Are you capturing customer preferences or managing their consent to keep the data? Yes, that's certainly a part of a portfolio that would help.
So let's have a look at Data Mask and Seed as a first cap in the rank for that topic. Data Mask and Seed is designed to help you accelerate development with realistic secure test data. So obviously, you can choose to have your production data automatically copied into sandbox fully or partially. But obviously, with that comes the challenge of having PII and important database in an environment where typically people have extended access rights compared to what they have in production.
Typically, the setup is only a handful of admins would have admin rights on prompt, but a lot more people are able to see a lot more data in those intermediate environments. And sometimes, you may not want them to have a peek at some of those data points. So it's all about projecting sandboxes quickly, allowing your development team to get started. But what we want to do is to synthesize or anonymize data that's reasonably real and close to the original one, but it's not the real thing. So it's the best of both worlds, if you wanted or like a Goldilocks moment on the data.
It is relevant to the task at hand which is developing functionality and making sure your user stories are right. But it doesn't compromise the trust imperative that you have with your customers' data. So you'd be able to simplify compliance with any regulation, including upcoming Australian regulation on data privacy. And it's all clicks and not code. We offer built-in masking dictionaries and set of algorithms. You can strip files. You can replace with random characters as stated in the screenshot on the right. Replacement pattern, you can have a library and so on and so forth.
So a lot of that is at the moment, and we're still working on improving the toolkit. It's also much more rapid than it used to be in the past, and we are achieving north of 3 million records being anonymized or tended to per hour on average.
All right. So the next topic is data resilience, and that's really the big bit we'll be addressing today. So that's backup and recover from a capability standpoint, that's archive and that's Discover. It's all about being able to quickly and easily navigate data disruptions while ensuring innovations doesn't slow. So you have achieved data resilience, you are able to restore data from loss or corruption. And usually, they're accidental, but they could certainly be malicious if someone gained unlawful access to your org or if a disgruntled contractor or employee decided to wreak havoc for some reason. So you'd be able to automate the process of archiving that, dealing data you no longer need as well and quickly access high fidelity data from the backup and archive if it's required.
So let's have a bit of a deep dive on that. Okay. So backup and recover is obviously backing up and recovering to protect against data loss or corruption. So it's highly secure, it's easy to set up, it's always available and it ensures data resilience and simplifies compliance. So we'll have a bit of a demo so that you can get a feel of how that works. It provides automated backups at points in time and also an option to have a much more frequent backup of things that change as they happen. And everything that is important data, including metadata, metadata.
We need the configuration of your particular Salesforce instance and how it defines how it's working. That's very important as well. All the files that are attached to the different records. And you would get proactive notifications of potential data loss or corruption. We'll see that in the demo, so quite And that would equip you with easy-to-use recovery tools. And look, people usually, when we mention backup, they are in that mindset that you do backup and then you restore all the data in the backup and hence, you'd lose everything that changed ever since.
With our recovery functionality, it's slightly different. You can be very surgical about the data you recover, keeping the data as it is current and just reverting some data points to a previous state. Data has been lost or data that's been tempered with or data that's been modified by mistake could be restored and it could be a very narrow band type of action you perform.
All right. So you'd be able to ensure accessibility of your data with automated backups that are complete, secure, compliant, readily accessible. Those backups can be accessed at any time regardless of the status of your cloud application and the data is stored on Amazon S3. So there's a possibility to access that separately. We will cover all the information that's important to you all to ensure continuity. So I mentioned data of your choice. You don't need to back up everything if you don't need to, but you can also include metadata. You can also protect your sandboxes, your managed package data and so on and so forth.
So it's very comprehensive. We give you the ability to achieve any RPO requirement. RPO stands for recovery point objective. The RPO means how far back will the data be if I can restore it. And obviously, a shorter, the smaller delta distance to that day, the better off it means that you have more recent data. As I stated, you'll have the option to have something that is almost continuous data protection. But obviously, you can do daily backups and weekly backups and so on and so forth and things on demand as well.
And your backups are obviously secured and stored in compliance because it's stored in Australia, there is encryption going on and so on and so forth. So it ticks all the right boxes there. When it comes to restoration, which is, well, you back up, but eventually, that's a prevalent issue and that gets deleted or modified by mistake, and you need to restore it to its previous state. Restoration capabilities are critical. You need to be fast, you need to be comprehensive and you will need to determine when you will get back to business.
So it's really important that the recovery time objective, how quickly you can get back to work is the shortest possible. So you will be able to recover the right data quickly. As I mentioned, you can be quite surgical about it. Here, if you see on a screenshot, you see the comparison between what's currently in your Salesforce organ and what's in a given backup and you'll be able to see what's being deleted, what's being modified and so on and so forth, you'll get that comprehension. And hence, you'll be able to select exactly what you want to restore.
On top of that, because you don't know what you don't know, how do you know you need to restore if you're not cognizant that something bad happened. And this is when our functionality of smart alerts makes quite a difference. You'd be able to set up a smart alert and get notified about unusual data movement, a loss or change directly to your e-mail and have a double click on it and see if it really mandates an action. And that's all based on your rules or it can be based on statistical analysis and see if movement is a bit of an outlier, like so many more records that have been deleted than on the usual day.
So you have visual graphs, tables and the precision repair tool that we see here on the screen that helps you get a good hang of what needs to be done and just do that. So we can extend the use of your backup. So backups are an exact copy of your production data, and they have value that goes beyond just the ability to recover and restore that. You have extended functionality that will empower you to leverage your backup to meet requirements for analytics, audits and compliance.
So you'd be able to stay audit ready with searchable archives of historical data. You'll be able to look at any piece of data and act upon it. You can have visibility into what the data looked like in the past for audit of reporting. You'd be able to also search historical data as well. So that comes on top of the functionality that you have in Shield where you can see who modified what, when and maybe for all those items where you didn't even set Shield properly to track those changes, that could be a backup plan. We also have export capabilities, which would empower you to leverage your backup data to feed the analytic data stores, other analytic tools or creating a copy of your external warehouse for regulatory purposes, for example. So you can repurpose your backups without using additional Salesforce APIs when you do that.
The unified backup data management means that you have one pane of glass to manage all your backup and recovery needs. So if you have a single org, obviously, you'd be able to see production data as well as your sandbox. If you wanted to back up sandbox data and recover it potentially, you'd be able to see your metadata. But the real bonus is when you have multiple orgs, and I know among the audience, some of you have multiple orgs, you can have a dedicated admin team that handles all the Backup and Restore and can be on a single pane of glass that admin console for backup and recovery would be connected to all your orgs, prod or non-prod and you'd be able to act upon that from that single pane of glass.
So you'd be able to consolidate that. You'll be able to share backup space and compliance management and policies. So that's one console. And obviously, we work with Salesforce, we have also functionality to enable you to back up data from other SaaS offerings as well. And in the same single console, you can also execute data subject requests. So that goes with a privacy center type of functionality to make sure that you're fully compliant with your backup data with a regulation and address right to be forgotten in the backup data as well if required. On the data itself, as I mentioned, you can have multiple policies. You can customize the backup timing, the frequency, the retention can go all the way up to 99 years. And so you can have monthly backups, weekly backups, daily backups.
And as stated earlier, you could have also as you go type of backups as well. All right. So let's talk about how we're different from what's out there in the market as well. I mean there are complementary offers from third parties. So yes, we are able to backup and restore. We aim at protecting everything that's important in your work to ensure that it's truly resilient. And we protect not only the data, but the metadata attachments, files, sandboxes -- sandboxes data, managed package data, et cetera. And you can run backups as frequently as needed, including manually to meet your RPO goals. And you can have 24 basic full org RPO, but you can have on-demand backups at more frequent intervals.
And as we stated, we have a continuous data protection add-on that would enable you for that data shape that's really sensitive and highly transactional would enable you to back up your changes just as they happen. So you would have an extremely short RPO in that case.
All right. On the archive. So archive is a bit of a different topic is how do you offload data from your org to lighten the load on the data storage on that org and lighten the cost as well. And the ID when you archive, well, it's data that's not relevant anymore for operational purposes. So you can define policies whereby you look at certain data points and then you decide if you want to keep it in the secondary storage for compliance and legal reasons or if you want to simply prune it. So those are typically the 2 options that you have.
So it's all about coring inactive data, reducing costs as well, improving performance in your org and obviously being compliant with records acts and things like that. So you can quickly objects taking up too much space. It will give you a bit of stats on what's eating the space and you can automate archiving based on policies, which would be on your predefined criteria. And that eliminates the manual errors if you do archive manually and things like that.
So it will be fully automated. You yet retain and secure access to your archived data and not necessarily for everyone in the org, but for those power users, special people that need to look into the historical data that's kept for compliance and legal reasons. Not everyone has to see that or should be able to see that. And that doesn't impact compliance. That doesn't impact performance. It's data that's not going to be used for operational purposes in the org. So if you really needed to, it was proven -- not proven, but archived in there, you could restore it with a few clicks if you really had to.
All right. I mentioned Salesforce Discover being a bit of a hidden gem. It really is. Customers can turn data backups into a strategic asset. So you can see the data that you have in the backup as a time series of your data points. So it can be extremely powerful from an analytics standpoint. You can ultimately generate those time series data with a few clicks. You eliminate the manual effort that people usually go through using ETL or native tools and you can have a peek at that historical data and how it changed over time. You can have a look at the data at any point in time. You can see -- you can rapidly prototype and see how it evolved or what's the trend.
And if you didn't plan to include a specific object, you can just pull it from your backups by configuration, connect it to, let's say, data cloud or any data warehouse of your choice and move forward as if you had always planned to do it without any delay. So it is really moving data around to get to the outcome you need. All right. So I think that's enough slide we're at this stage. And what I suggest for you now is to have a bit of a demo, a very simplified demo, but a bit of a demo of what backup and recover enables.
And as a reminder, feel free to ask away using the chat QA button, and we'll address that towards the end of the webinar and hopefully come up with questions -- responses to your questions straight away. So let's have a look at the demo. This on the screen is the pane of glass that you would have on your backup and recover admin app. So not everyone -- not every admin on your orgs need to have access to that. So you can select the people who would be able to. And here, you can see that it's all about protecting your data against loss and corruption. You have backup data separate for the different orgs and different data types, both protection and sandbox, both data and metadata as well as high frequency, which is a continuous data protection I mentioned, all right?
So if I click next, you see that it's all multi-org. As I stated, you can have a bird's eye view on everything that's available and you'd be able to see where it's at, what was the latest backup date, if it's been completed, what it pertains to, what org it's about and what's the type of data. You would be able to see full backups as well as other types of backups as well.
All right. I mentioned the proactive alerting. This is how it would look like once you configure it. So it's all a matter of configuration of defining what objects it pertains to and what is exactly what you're trying to capture or it can be kind of automated and look at statistical outliers in terms of data movement. And it would give you a bit of [indiscernible] of what happens. So here, the admin would receive a daily summary of what happened on the production data of a certain Salesforce org. 816 records were deleted, and that's a bit of an outlier.
So it looks like a lot more records have been deleted than on an unusual day. On opportunities, it's even worse. It's like 13,000, so quite a few. So your data is your biggest asset, and you need to know what's going on. So obviously, you could have reports, you could have dashboards and so on and so forth. But this is really precious for the busy admin. It's proactively letting them know that something is not or potentially not going to drive, right? So you'd be able to then go back to the backup and recover app and have a bit of an analysis of what happens.
So here, you see different objects. You see what's been removed. How much data we're looking at, how many of those records have changed, how many have been added and how many calls. API calls have been involved. So you'd be able to see exactly what went on compared to the previous backup because we're looking at incremental changes here. It gives you kind of a full picture. And then you can kick off a restore job with a single play, okay? So this is how the restore configuration screen would look like. You'd be able to select the object level depth, obviously, where you restore from. And then you'd be able to select exactly the nature of records that are going to be restored.
So you can be either broad or you can be quite surgical in what you do. And we obviously restore integrity by maintaining relationship between records. So you'd be able to restore like a graph of data records that are related to each other. It really minimizes the risk of incomplete and inconsistent data by doing that.
All right. You'd be able to compare backups as well. So you'd have a comparison of what's changed between backups and see if it requires certain attention, you'd be able to preserve valid changes while correcting the corrupted data because it's been modified like here, those 287 modified records would be part of the scrutiny, right?
Precision repair, it's all about inspecting those 297 records that have been modified and being able to see what's going on. So you'd have a color code like red as being deleted, yellowish, orange-ish, amber, whatever you want to call it, is going to be modified and green is going to be added data. So you have like a very visual way of seeing what's going on. And you'd be able to see the old value preface value and the new value as well and decide what you do -- want to do about it.
All right. And then the job is complete, it inserts the data back into your org and all the dependencies in the right order, which really enables you to get to the quickest recovery time objective as possible. Here we go.
So before we enter into the Q&A bit of today's session, I wanted to share some of the road map items for the functionality that we double-clicked on. So again, this is archived backup and recover Data Mask and Seed and Discover. So for Winter '26, which is the upcoming version or release in Data detect, there's going to be a native app that sits directly in your Salesforce org, not terribly relevant for Australia, but we'll have GovCloud support, Data Cloud YellowScanning as well. For archive, we'll have improved search to surface archive records more seamlessly. But backup and Recover will have view-only user role, so people are able to see what's in the backup and what's the status of backup, but we will not be able to change anything. And we will also support a CIM-based user management.
For Data Mask and Seed, we'll see generated records seeing metadata across sandboxes. And for Discover, we'll have agents to create backup data and we'll have Discover for Data Cloud as well. One version further, and again, all of this is safe harbor. It's planned, but it might not turn out exactly as stated. So again, if you make any purchase decision, make it on functionality that's available today. But forward-looking to spring '26, we have Shield Data Detect with full Data Cloud yellow scanning and automated schedule scans. On Archive, we'll have archive fully on Salesforce with expanded agent force capabilities. for backup and recover, we will omit all the operations of backing up and recovering from API limits at the moment.
Full disclosure, it consumes API calls in your org. We'll have even improved scaling with full Kubernetes support for that backup and recover app and all the engine that deals with the backup and recovery. HyperforceGovCloud support and enhancements. So it fully supports Hyperforce, but it's going to run on Hyperforce. I think this is what it says. For Data Mask and Seed, we'll rebuild the masking app. So it runs directly on Hyperforce with a new UI that's one-to-one with the rest of the Salesforce app and agenting seeding as well, like you'll be able to ask an agentic seed using specific instructions for you. And on Discovery, you'll have advanced filters, you'll be able to have a look at archived records. You'll be able to use formula fill values and be able to look into more data sources.
All right. So I think we reached a point where we can go through the QA. So I'm going to go back to my presenters' mode to check the QA if you want to bear with me.
All right. There's quite a few QAs. Regarding a session, yes, it will be shared. So definitely, that's going to happen. Another question is around how frequently backups can be scheduled. So it can be run on demand and you have daily, weekly, monthly, and you have also a choice of having continuous data protection. So all of the above, good, sir.
Another question on unlimited storage. So what happens on Backup and Recover as well as Archive? You don't -- the metrics for the cost of the capability is not linked to the number of users. It's linked to the actual data shape that you need to back up. So we'll have a look at how much data you use on your Salesforce org or orgs as well as how much file storage you consume. And you will need to contract based on those quantities, knowing that for file attachments, there's a 1:10 ratio. So it's kind of discounted at 90% because files are typically a cheaper storage category.
So this is how this will be computed. And we always encourage customers to contract for a little more than their current use because data tends to grow. So typically, the guidance is shoot for about 30% more as you actually consume today so that you have a bit of buffer for the few months to come.
And I have a question around Archive-only solution. Yes, the -- those are 2 distinct offerings. You have backup and recover, which is backing the data up and storing that backup, keeping the data in the org, but having it as a backup and being able to restore it. And we have an alternative or complementary capability, which is just archiving, which -- where the goal is not to keep the data in production, is really you remove the data from production, either archived and secondary storage because you have a mandate, you need to keep it for legal and compliance reasons or you can also prune the data because it's no longer relevant.
Another question on changing the Archive Policy, such as older date and from 90 days to 70 days and so on and forth. Will the archive respond and move them back to primary storage. Don't hate me if I'm wrong, but no, I don't think it does. You would need -- if you reduce the archive, like you say, we are at 75 days going into Archive and then we go to 90 days. Then the data portion that sits between 75 and 90 days will not be restored automatically. You would need to restore it manually. I'll double check that. But yes, this is what we have at the moment as far as I know. Can we restore backup at field level? Yes, you can. So you are able to be very surgical. So you can select the fields that are going to be restored as well.
All right. Archive backup product. So I think we answered that. It's a separate offering. Not everyone needs archiving. I suppose I would say that everyone does need backup, but archiving is separate. So you don't have to have both at the same time, but you can, and it's separate. Backup automation only available on specific Salesforce licensing? Or is it available for everyone? No, you can have it on any Salesforce org.
Can own backup, so Backup and Recovery be deployed of [ archival ] also part of own -- separate archival solution, yes. So yes, as we stated, Backup and Recover is distinct from archival.
Another question around rolling back to a point in time. So what happens is you can decide which backup you restore data from. So obviously, if you have data backups that, let's say, are done daily, you would be able to choose which daily backup you restore from. If you really -- if you're really insistent that you need any point in time, then I would encourage you to look at our continuous data protection option because then it saves in backups changes just as they happen, which means that you can absolutely define any point in time down to the second and aim to restore the data that was then current.
Okay. We support accounting for instance, on Salesforce. Yes, we do. And can we compare data in backups point in time with production live data and between 2 data points? Yes, you can. So that's the whole premise. You can compare current data versus data in the backup and you can compare 2 backups with each other and then you can restore just as you'd like.
All right. So those are all the questions I had. I'll leave it another 30 seconds just to see if there's more coming. So how is the pricing?
I would suggest that you contact your Salesforce account executive around the pricing. But as I stated, the metric is going to be based on the storage space that you use in your org at the moment plus a bit of buffer. So that's the metric. And then there is a price associated with how many gigabytes, let's say, you would need to use. Something I can share is that there's a minimum contract storage point, i.e., you can't go below a certain storage space. So something to consider. Usually, it's worthwhile sharing storage across multiple orgs if they tend to be on the smaller side and if you can.
All right. Thank you so much for all those questions. I think we covered a lot of ground. So let me, at this stage, thank you again for attending. If you feel that there's any question we didn't answer well enough or as a certain thought, you think that's something you'd like to run by us, feel free to reach out, and we'll make sure you get all the data points that you need to get full clarity and make informed decisions. I also wanted to share certain learning journeys.
If you wanted to know more on Trailhead, there are a couple of modules that could be useful if you wanted to explore a little more. There's a module called Get to know backup and archive, which I created shortcut for sfdc.co/th-backup-archive. And another one, which is make solutions secure and it's a little more generic. It's content that was initially designed for the education space, but it applies 100% to anyone in the public sector, and that's sfdc.co/th-make-solutions-secure. Under resources, there's a convenient QR code here. You can learn more about our entire Trusted Services portfolio at [ sfdc.co Trusted Services 2025 ].
So feel free to make a screenshot at this moment or to use your phone camera to open the link and get that very comprehensive write-up about trusted services.
So at this stage, let me check if there are more questions that popped up. No, they aren't. So I'd like to extend my thank you again for attending. Again, do reach out if you have on -- in hindsight, more topics you'd like us to approach on any open questions as well. And that being said, I can only wish you a great day ahead and hope that you will make the best out of our Trusted Services to get your data protection strategy in motion. Thank you again. Bye-bye.
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🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzform: Webinar zur Produktpalette "Trusted Services" von Salesforce: Fokus auf Daten-Compliance, -Sicherheit und -Resilienz mit Schwerpunkten Backup and Recover, Archive, Data Mask & Seed und Discover.
- Kernnutzen: Native SaaS‑Tools sollen Datenverluste verhindern, regulatorische Anforderungen vereinfachen und Entwicklern sichere Testdaten bereitstellen.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Produktfokus: Backup and Recover bietet automatisierte/backups, feld‑ und objekt‑feine Wiederherstellung, "Precision Repair" und Smart Alerts zur Erkennung ungewöhnlicher Datenbewegungen.
- Compliance & Testdaten: Data Mask & Seed anonymisiert Testdaten (z. B. PII — persönlich identifizierbare Informationen) schnell (>3 Mio. Datensätze/Std. genannt) und reduziert Compliance‑Risiken in Sandboxes.
- Archivierung & Analyse: Archive entlastet Produktions‑Orgs; Discover nutzt Backup‑Zeitreihen für Analysen und befüllt Data Cloud oder Data Warehouse ohne aufwändige ETL.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Roadmap‑Punkte: Für Winter '26 angekündigt: native Data Detect App, GovCloud/Hyperforce‑Support, verbesserte Suche im Archive, View‑Only‑Rolle im Backup. Spring '26: erweiterte Data Cloud Scans, API‑Limit‑Optimierungen und Hyperforce‑native Apps (alles geplant, kein Verbindlichkeitsversprechen).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Backup‑Frequenz: On‑demand, täglich, wöchentlich, monatlich oder Continuous Data Protection (CDP) für punktgenaues Wiederherstellen; RPO steht für Recovery Point Objective.
- Preismodell & Storage: Preis basiert auf gespeichertem Datenvolumen (Dateianhänge mit 1:10 Ratio); Empfehlung: ~30% Puffer; Mindestspeichervertrag möglich.
- Archiv vs. Backup: Separate Angebote; Archiv entfernt Daten aus Produktion zur Kostensenkung/Compliance, Backup belässt Daten in Org und ermöglicht Wiederherstellung (kein automatisches "Zurückholen" beim Policen‑Ändern).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Relevanz: Für Investoren bedeutet das Webinar ein klares Produktpositionierungs‑Signal: Salesforce baut native Datenresilienz‑ und Compliance‑Funktionen aus, reduziert Abhängigkeit von Drittanbietern und adressiert regulatorische Anforderungen (GovCloud/Hyperforce). Monetarisierung hängt von Speicher‑/Add‑on‑Verkäufen ab; Roadmap ist positiv, aber noch unverbindlich.
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1. Management Discussion
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All right. Thanks, [ Ariana ]. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Excited to dive into our session on 5 tips for getting started with Data Cloud and Agentforce.
Data Cloud and Agentforce together provide a pretty robust set of capabilities, and I think one of the things we oftentimes hear from our customers and partners is there's so much there that sometimes figuring out just how to get started can lead to a bit of analysis paralysis. And so today's session is really about sharing some tips and a simple framework for just thinking about how to get going and get started. It's really all about defining those use cases. Really excited to present on that today.
Before we actually dive into the session, just a quick note, our forward-looking statement here. A quick reminder, Salesforce is a publicly traded company, and customers should be making their purchasing decisions based on the products and services that are currently available and not on anything that may be coming in the future, which is mentioned in today's call.
So with that out of the way, we can get into introductions. I'm Brock Jones, Senior Director of Product Marketing here on the Data Cloud team. Presenting alongside me today, very excited to introduce Omarr McDonald. Omarr, do you want to introduce yourself?
Hey, guys. I'm equally thrilled to be here with you all as well. I'm Omarr McDonald. I'm a director within our Data Cloud practice for go to market here at Salesforce. And I work with customers to build and go to market scalable efficient solutions on the Salesforce Platform, particularly on Data Cloud, which is the key foundation for Agentforce. Been here at Salesforce a little over 10 years and been in the ecosystem over 17. Happy to be talking with you guys.
All right. Well, let's dive in. So as I mentioned, today's session is going to be really sharing a lot of best practices and frameworks to help you think about how to get started. But before doing that, just kind of want to level set by really starting with what is Data Cloud. I'm sure, for most of you who are here, you're obviously far enough along in your journey that you've got a decent understanding, but I did kind of want to start here on how we think about Data Cloud. And really, it's the foundation for not only our Customer 360 but now Agentforce. We really think that it is kind of that trusted foundation that's going to allow you to activate your data fully with the entire Salesforce Platform. And it's going to provide 3 core benefits.
First, it's going to allow you to create that Customer 360 that's deeply integrated with our platform, so giving the ability to bring together all of your structured and unstructured data into a single view of the customer that actually is completely natively integrated with the Salesforce Platform. So it's actually integrated with our unified metadata layer. And that's going to give our platforms like Agentforce the ability to deeply understand your customer, and not only understand them but be able to take action on all that data because it has that tight connection with the metadata framework. So it understands when you ask it to complete tasks like, hey, can you update an opportunity, it actually knows what an opportunity because it's deeply integrated with that metadata layer.
It's going to create that C360. It's going to help you deliver that trusted contextual data to Agentforce, and it's going to allow you to do autonomous actions all in the flow of work, right? So being able to drive action is really what Data Cloud is all about. That's our unique differentiator. As you think about other data platforms maybe in your tech stack, this is really about activation of data, whether it's through activating that new agentic layer in your organization or activating data more fully inside your Customer 360 applications, be it Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, Marketing Cloud, all the platforms your teams are very familiar with working inside of every day.
And in terms of how all this works, want to provide this simple framework kind of left to right visual. With Data Cloud, it really starts with connecting your data. So you're able to bring all of your data and whether it's Salesforce data or external data, perhaps you actually have your data already organized in that data lake or warehouse, you can bring that in through Zero Copy and just simply federate or query the data in as needed.
So after you bring all that data in, you can then harmonize it into unified profiles. You're then able to govern that data safely with the help of some AI assistants. So Data Cloud, we had announced previously at Dreamforce and some of our Agentforce world tours, is now rolling out some robust governance and security features that are going to allow you to really develop policy-based governance rules and define access for who sees what data right inside Data Cloud. So you're able to govern that, and then you can activate it anywhere, whether that's building insights or predictive models with the data that you've ingested, driving actions across any of the Salesforce applications or using it to actually power Agentforce. And a lot of that comes with our search and RAG capabilities, so being able to bring in important sources like unstructured information and actually allow agents to intelligently explore all that information through search or retrieve the right infrastructure data from the RAG process.
Lastly, all of that happens in our real-time layer if you so choose and need. So being able to activate all this data in real time is another important capability here that we offer at Data Cloud with that sub-second real-time layer.
So that's a bit about how it works. With that, let's get into more of the framework, the meat of today's discussion. I'll turn it over to Omarr to kick us off. Omarr, you might be on mute.
Sorry about that. First time I've ever done that in my life. Thanks, Brock.
Let's start with tip #1, which is organizational alignment. Organizational alignment is very critical for any programmatic success on the Salesforce Platform across data AI, CRM. And we're at an interesting juncture right now because it seems like every company is focused on data strategy and platform integration, right? And I guess the past couple of years have been very interesting for IT and data engineering organizations within those companies because a lot of them have been given the mandate, right? So they need to be able to consolidate data from a large number of places across their organization, centralize it, whether it be they've invested in a data lake platform like Databricks or Snowflake or Redshift or what have you. And you need to do this while also maintaining their business operations.
So typically, what we see how this plays out is you got the IT organization doing their thing, focusing on master data management strategies. You got your businesses also doing everything in parallel as well, too. So you've got marketing department working on their digital strategy. You've got sales and service frustrated with their customizations on Sales and Service Cloud. And everyone is just operating in silos from that perspective in terms of getting their daily jobs done but lacking coordination across. And that's typically where we can help in terms of implementing organizational alignment across a business.
And we have a point of view to share here in terms of what does that look like and what are some of the components and key features of org alignment across the business. Before I jump into that, I just want to endeavor that as you look to start implementing within your organization, ensure that it's fit for business, right, fit for your needs, but when we think about what are the core components of that, you have executive leadership over the top. They set the vision. They set the strategy.
We typically see, from our perspective, a center of excellence where there's a steering committee of business stakeholders that can drive success there. And they're the group that implements the best practices. They set the program charter. They set the standards. They hold accountability from that end.
Looking on the far right there, we're thinking about who owns our data, who manages our platform. So that could be your IT, the department. That's an organization that will provide insight on data sources, data fidelity, how could data be brought in from that end and from that perspective.
And then most importantly, the business areas, the functional areas that we want to support. So thinking of sales, service, marketing, commerce, operations, analytics. It's important that we have steering committee across those functional areas as well, too, so that we can implement change and value across the entire organization from that end.
The key common denominator is that a lot of customers see this as a new way of working, right? If you think about high school and having different cliques, we need to be able to bring those together and have coordinated efforts across the business from that end.
So with tip #1 out the way, I want to jump into tip #2, which is picking a use case, right? We've now gotten the band together. We now have organizational alignment across the business. Let's start thinking about which use cases make sense for us, right?
And the important thing when we think about use cases are a lot of companies will want to lead with technology. This point solution is going to drive maximum value for my business along X percent. I challenge you to think about the outcomes, be outcomes-based. And when I say outcomes, I'm thinking about 2 things: the whats, what am I building, what am I delivering; and the for whom, the end user, have the end user in mind.
And end user can be external. It could be internal. When I think of external, I think of the customer. I think of ways in which they are transacting with you, whether it be individual or entity or a business; the ways in which they raised their hand, they want to hear from you from a brand perspective. And then I think about internal, I think about the seller. I think about the service agents. I think about the marketer. What are ways in which I can improve and impact their daily jobs, their jobs to be done and be able to maximize that across the organization so that I can realize value up towards of X percent of cost savings or increased AOV to that perspective?
Once you lead with outcomes and have the end user in mind, everything else falls into place, the technology decisions that you make, the people and the process you need to optimize in order to drive that long-term success from that end as well, too. So that will be my challenge to you on the call here, is think about outcomes. Think about the end user and what you want to influence from that perspective.
And when we look at Data Cloud from that end, we've been in the market for about 4-plus years now, and we've done our due diligence in terms of what are the common popular use cases that we've seen in market, right? And this is our gift to you in terms of starting to get the juices flowing along the lines of what are typical use cases that we see across these functional areas, right, sales, service, marketing, commerce.
Sales, for example, trying to improve productivity from that end, from an operation perspective. Service could be reducing attrition. Marketing is just higher engagement by providing personalized communications along those lines. These are ways in which we can provide you some examples that you can take and start to build prototypes around, start the POC in your heads and realize as well on the platform from that end.
What I'd love to do is double click on one of these -- actually, correction. I'll actually do 2 for 1 here and talk about sales and service but along the lines of cross-sell, upsell. So taking a step back and thinking about what cross-sell, upsell means. Let's say, you are a retail organization. You're selling me a pair of pants. You know that I love pants. Talk to me about a shirt to match.
I'm a subscription-based organization. I bought a subscription. You know my affinities, what I like. Talk to me about add-ons that make sense for me, right, from that perspective, so the goal here being, again, leading with outcomes, looking at the bottom right there, if I think about from a sales organization perspective, I want to boost revenue by providing more white space, by providing more upsell, cross-sell opportunities for my customers.
And then from the service perspective, it's really taking those sort of service interactions, those cases and turning those into revenue-generating opportunities along those lines as well, too. That then segues back into what do I need to facilitate that use case. So -- and this is the way in which we want to functionalize how we approach the key components of a use case, number one being what data is needed.
Think about your CRM incidents. Think about your Salesforce ecosystem in terms of accounts, contacts, cases, profile information if you will. Think about any external data that you want to bring in collaboration with that, so maybe some purchase information, transaction data, potentially propensity scores as well, too, if you've done that due diligence as well, getting those insights.
It segues into the next step, which is what sort of insights do I want to glean on that data set. Indicative example here is maybe propensity to buy based on frequency of purchases. Let's say, I purchased 3 times in the past 90 days. Perhaps I want to be able to define high propensity for that customer, right? That information, that insight, along with the data set, maybe I want to be able to visualize that on a contact page, a contact record or account record so that this information is in front and center for our sales and service rep. It can be a valuable piece of intel as they're having a conversation with that customer on the phone or it can be a valuable piece of intel that they use for a follow-up communication.
And then also important, what actions do I want to take on that piece of information? Along the sales line, maybe I want to create a lead, high-value guy, follow up with that person, please; or on a service perspective, create a next best action on that case as you're dealing with that customer on the phone as well.
There may be some insights that you want to glean from a reporting perspective, like sales pipeline, look at propensity along those lines, those dimensions. But to -- really to segue here, the TL;DR is think about breaking down the components along your use case, but most importantly, lead with the outcome in terms of what you want to improve and impact.
So we've gone through the first 2 use cases. We've talked about organizational alignment and use case definition. I'm going to have to pass the baton back to Brock to talk about, okay, let's think about definition of success.
Thanks, Omarr. Yes. So once our use case is defined, it's really about establishing, okay, what are kind of our success measures and goals. Let's get everybody aligned to that before we actually start running with the implementation of Data Cloud. So when it comes to success metrics, we thought we'd provide some simple buckets for you to think about as a framework for defining kind of goals and what success looks like for your own use case.
You can see here there are about 6 buckets that we've kind of collapsed common success metrics into. And these are the types of metrics we found come up over and over again when working with our customers. So starting on the left, things like data quality and really about the integration and connection of data. You have metrics around data sources. So for you to find use case, you can actually go in and say, okay, we know we have these X number of data sources. We want X percent of all data maybe on a [ row ] level or what have you ingested into the platform by certain dates, right? So you're really usually trying to go for 100% completion or whatever that percentage goal is.
Data integrity, another metric in there, is really about the quality of this data, so identifying error rates, duplication, really making sure that everything you're bringing in and transforming and harmonizing is coming in as clean data and high-quality data. And the data latency is all about the speed at which you can sort of perform all these actions and you can measure and monitor that as well.
Outside of that, down below, you have engagement and adoption metrics. This is really that bucket that's all about those traditional user satisfaction metrics, right? Are the people that you're deploying this to inside your organization satisfied? Are they onboarding quickly and at the rate at which you would define as successful?
Business KPIs, a huge one. This is all about outcomes, right? So based on the outcomes for any use case, you really want to figure out what are those metrics that we want to look at and start to understand are we moving the needle or not with the way we've implemented Data Cloud for that particular use case, so things like customer lifetime value or are we seeing retention rates go up. Maybe you were trying to decrease case resolution for a service case. Those would be business KPIs that are critical to track and monitor.
Operational efficiencies, these are more internal for you and your team. Whether it's things like query time or system uptime or overall cost savings, these are important metrics to also be thinking about and tracking.
Marketing metrics kind of fit within business KPIs, but we do see a lot of more kind of CDP-like marketing use cases. And so these are metrics related to campaign ROIs, overall conversion rate for leads, engagement metrics.
And then last, but specifically not least, any compliance or security metrics that are important for you and your organization. I think depending on the use case and the industry you sit in, you will have more or less of these, but looking at data compliance rate and security incidents and setting goals for that will be critical.
So these are the buckets. There are a lot of different metrics that could fit within any of these buckets, so we just wanted to provide you a sample of those. I think what's most important as you define the metrics is just having a set of questions to be prepared to work through with your team of stakeholders. So questions that we often typically see used as a blueprint for defining successful -- not to be redundant, but successful success metrics would be things like what's the problem that you're looking to solve with this use case for Data Cloud. How is Data Cloud going to help? How can we measure it? What would be an indicator of that success? If you define the measure, what's the actual goal that you're looking to achieve, that you want to hit with any of those measures you defined?
So that's a bit about success metrics. Moving forward, after we've sort of identified that use case, we know what success looks like. We need to start putting down on paper what does sort of the capability and architecture framework look like for everybody. It's always important to start here, so you know where you're headed. That is going to make everybody a lot more aligned to what you're trying to achieve. And so building out this capability and architecture framework is super important. This is where professionals like Omarr and the Professional Services team can provide a ton of value as well as you think about, okay, we have this use case. But how does it all lay out on paper? Can you really start to map that out?
And what I always like to do here is, first, just start by reminding everyone like, there's a ton of capabilities within Data Cloud. Everything, though, really boils down to this one simple premise, which is you're ultimately looking to create just that one single view of the customer that is natively integrated with Salesforce. And that's going to unlock your desired use case. That's going to unlock the ability to provide that data seamlessly to Agentforce to maybe create that new agent use case that you're looking for.
And so I start here because this slide -- before we go into a bunch of capabilities -- is illustrative of that high-level premise that we don't want to forget about. And all of the capabilities and functions kind of ladder back to this. The example I'll show for capability mapping has to do with a customer that was recently looking to unify their Salesforce data. They're actually looking to bring in Salesforce data alongside structured external data from Amazon Kinesis as well as their Snowflake data. And they also were interested in activating their unstructured data from their knowledge base, particularly for a service agent use case powered by Agentforce.
So it's kind of the ultimate definition. Again, it's a service-based use case. They're looking to deploy it and activate it not only with their sales reps. So in live chats, they actually have access to this fully unified profile and can provide better service but also powering Agentforce, right, so they can help Agentforce deeply understand their customers.
And what this ultimately looked like when we all mapped it out in terms of capabilities that would be leveraged, you can see on this slide here, right? So lots and lots of pillboxes here. These are all different capabilities that align to Data Cloud functionality. But what's most important is the pillboxes highlighted sort of that bright blue were the capabilities that were relevant to the use case that have been defined for the starting point of this Data Cloud and Agentforce use case.
So it's not everything, right? And importantly, Data Cloud's not priced in such a way that you're going to get charged for everything. It's really priced from a usage and consumption standpoint, so really pay for what you use. And so if you start small with a use case, you can start to narrow in on, okay, what are the capabilities we really care about, what are we trying to sort of turn on and what do we not need to necessarily worry too much about right now. So this is kind of that capability map. And for any use case, you can kind of light up this board and get everybody aligned to, okay, what are the capabilities that we need.
And then from there, you can start to create this architectural diagram. It's really important to map this out. So everybody can just kind of see the flow of data and what you're trying to achieve. So on this slide here, we have our architectural framework for the service use case. You can see at the very bottom of the slide, those 3 different sources of data I had mentioned that were of relevance. We have the Amazon Kinesis external data. We had our Snowflake data. And we even had knowledge articles as well. So the implementation here was how do we take that external Amazon Kinesis data and the Snowflake data, bring it into Data Cloud. So that's by way of the Amazon Kinesis connector that we have and then the Zero Copy integration with Snowflake.
That middle box with Data Cloud is just actually showing from left to right what's happening with that data as it comes in. So we're connecting it. We're harmonizing, creating those unified profiles through our identity resolution and then ultimately creating any insights that we need so that we have kind of that enhanced unified view of the customer. And then we would service that up into Service Cloud, right? And so the Service Cloud box is showing the different places that this unified view may need to show up, be it in live chats or the case resolution process. That would be for live service agents.
But then we have Agentforce out here on the right as well, right? Maybe we're trying to actually implement a better service agent experience, something that can kind of take on some of the workload for that service organization. And so those reps, the service agents that they're creating need to actually understand all of the unstructured information from all their knowledge-based articles. Think of like those traditional help support articles.
And so Data Cloud has the ability to upload that unstructured data through our vector database. I won't get into all the details, but we can create sort of the embeddings and the chunking through vector database. And what that does is that makes unstructured data a source of information that AI can actually explore and understand and make meaning from. And when you upload that into Data Cloud, now you actually have a way for the agent to go and retrieve and search across all that information and use semantic search and the understanding of all those knowledge-based articles to inform the outcomes and responses based off whatever sort of question the agent gets.
So it's a super cool tool what we do with unstructured information. But this is how we think about the solution architecture. And it's really important to get this on a page, so everybody can kind of see, everyone's clear. Different stakeholders might have different input and concerns as you start to think about the flow of data. So always important to start here.
So moving into our last tip, I will hand it over to Omarr.
Thanks, Brock. So to round out the tips that we provided to you over this afternoon or morning, depending on where you are, or evening, building a road map. So I want to set the stage here for this sort of scenario. You've gone through organizational alignment. You have the crew together from that perspective. You've defined on 1 or 2 use cases that you now have defined KPIs for and you know what the success metrics are around those. You've defined the capabilities that you want to influence and the architecture that you're going to build. You've launched and deployed, and you're popping champagne. You're celebrating. My question to you is what's next.
And when we think about what's next, it's important that you think about what's next at the beginning of that cycle. So in terms of building the road map, I know Brock had mentioned start small. It's important that we start small from that end. I want to challenge you to think about it from 2 lines: before and after.
When I think big, you want to be able to not just have those 2 initial use cases or what have you but have a laundry list of use cases, start to build prioritization around those. What are low-hanging fruits? What are high-value items that are low effort that you can celebrate as quick wins if you would? What is -- what are high value but actually requires a little bit more effort that you can start to prioritize for, let's say, Phase 2, Phase 3 from that perspective?
The goal is to think big. Start small, but then also that allows you to move fast. So once you do go through your first release, your first phase, if you would, you can then iterate quickly into your next phase, and there's no lull in terms of the what's next there from that perspective.
Now jumping into what that could look like from a road map. This example aligns to Brock's customer example that you just mentioned and sort of recap the customers' AWS from an infrastructure perspective so that they leverage Kinesis. So they're streaming data into the Data Cloud ecosystem. They have Snowflake as well. So they're an aspect of Zero Copy from between Data Cloud and Snowflake. And they also leverage Service Cloud from a service console perspective. They have a service desk organization.
So for them, they wanted to implement a crawl-walk-run approach, taking a more incremental approach to value so that they can realize value along the way in a very accelerated iterative manner. So with their crawl, their goal is really to prototype up a solution, really define a proof of technology, hit the check box on the capabilities that have been deployed into market and also measure success along those lines.
Phase 2 is your walk, where now I'm starting to scale up my data foundation for additional data sources. So they're adding on more data streams. They're thinking about real-time capabilities in addition to batch data pipelines; and they want to layer on Agentforce because the goal is not just to surface data but to also leverage that data for more conversational use cases, let's say, account planning. Give me some -- give me a case summary on this case for this customer that I'm talking to. Give me an account summary on this account record so that I don't have to needle through every single data point on that account detail page, for example. And the goal here is to start to roll out additional use case, additional experiences from that end.
Phase 3 is when they're really running from that end, where now they're looking at predictive models. They're looking at reporting and analytics. They're starting to layer on Tableau from a dashboarding perspective and thinking about ways in which they can introduce propensity into their current use cases and capabilities and also more GenAI as one on top of that to, really looking to optimize on the operational efficiency from that end. Again, the goal for this is think big, start small but also move fast.
And so to round it out in terms of the 5 use cases, I'm just going to do a quick recap in terms of what we discussed along those lines. So first -- number one, get the band together. Think about your organization. Think about your gaps. Make sure the right folks are brought along, enabled and enfranchised.
Number two, focus on the use cases that matter. Have the end user in mind. Have the outcome in mind.
Number three, think about the definition of success. What are the KPIs? What are the operational metrics that you want to improve so that you can prove success, prove value within the business so that you can start to scale up for more use cases?
Number four, thinking about capabilities and your architecture framework, make sure you have the right capabilities prioritized and think about the data that's needed to facilitate those use cases. And then last but not least, think about the what's next. Think about that road map from the beginning and along the way, celebrate those early wins. Celebrate the quick wins along the path to your big bang if you would.
With that, I'll pass the baton back to Brock.
All right. Thanks, Omarr. So those are the 5 tips. We really hope that you're able to use them to think about how you get started with Data Cloud to power any use case, ideally, some of the exciting ones we're seeing with Agentforce using this framework. A lot of these principles are really what many of our most successful customers have used when first getting started, customers like Heathrow, who have seen the ability to reduce their average call handling time thanks to unified profiles or Turtle Bay who implemented unified profiles and were able to use them to increase their booking rates amongst their sales reps with customers by around 20% after implementing Data Cloud. So really seeing a ton of great success with this framework as a starting point. I would highly encourage you to use it.
So when it comes to getting started with Data Cloud, we would really encourage you to explore more, if you haven't yet in your journey, if this is going to be your first time, really thinking about, okay, how do I get started. Here's a few resources that we'd want to share with you. Obviously, check out Trailhead. There's a lot of great learning content if you feel like you still need to learn more about some of the capabilities and features that we offer to help you define some of those use cases that are right for your organization.
Next, would definitely encourage you to look into the Data Cloud starter bundle. This is a package deal that comes bundled with Professional Services. So you'll get the help of incredibly talented, knowledgeable people like Omarr to think with you on prototyping out what are those use cases, how do we start small, get some quick wins. That's what really the starter bundle is all about.
And last but certainly not least, think about joining our Datablazer community. It is a great resource. If you are looking to connect with others who are thinking about data and how to activate it across the organization or just thinking about Data Cloud, it's a great community that we're seeing a lot of traction and engagement with. And there are folks with varying levels of expertise and at various stages in their Data Cloud journey. So I would encourage you to check that out as well.
So with that, we will close out the session. Again, thank you for the time. Really appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to come and hear from us.
And with that, I think we can turn it over to the Q&A section.
Right. Let's pull up some of the questions. Omarr, we can just kind of handle these on the fly. So...
Let's do it.
One I see at the top, can you talk a bit more about how Data Cloud connects with data lakes and databases outside of Salesforce?
Yes, I think the primary way for connecting data lakes is with our Zero Copy architecture. So that's actually different than like a traditional connection point. You're actually not physically moving or ingesting the data with Zero Copy. So by way of some of the partnerships that we have with data lakes like Snowflake or Databricks, we're actually able to federate or query that data in.
So you would go through the setup process. It would kind of look and feel very similar to setting up a connector in Data Cloud. But instead of actually ingesting what's happening is you're querying or federating that data in as needed. So depending on sort of the schedule you set, you would query the data and then run the actions on it.
So that's really the difference. For any other external data sources, there's over 200 connectors that Data Cloud offers that you'd be able to set up. Whether you're looking for a batch ingest or a streaming ingest, that's really the process that you would go through as you make those connections, is kind of defining the parameters in which -- how are you bringing that data in. So those are kind of the 2 ways at the highest level of how that works.
Let's see. I guess jumping into the next question here. When you're setting up a Center of Excellence, what people should you pull in to be a part of it? What team should they come from?
So typically, when we think about a COE, Center of Excellence, there are a couple of key personas that you want to think about, right? So first and foremost, you think about the executive sponsor. So who's the champion for your COE? Who's setting the strategy? Who's setting the vision? Who's setting the alignment from that end?
Within that, then you have the owner. Who's the owner of the Center of Excellence? Who's accountable? Who's the throat to choke from that perspective and is overseeing the management, measurement and accountability for your Center of Excellence?
Underneath that, you have your business leads. So think about who are your lines -- who owns your lines of business that could provide insight into goals and challenges. Who are your technical leads alongside those guys who own the platforms like Agentforce and Data Cloud and Databricks and Snowflake or internal systems, and they can provide insights along those applications as well. And then last but not least, your functional areas, so your sales, service, marketing, commerce, operations. You want to have [ Serco ] across those as well as part of your COE to drive value. So those are typically the personas that we would see in the COE.
All right. I'll take one more here. When defining success metrics for Data Cloud, do you see any one that's like more common or less common?
I think that it just -- the real answer is it depends on the use case, but the buckets that we most often see and hear about are the ones like data integration and quality, so just making sure that you're really focused on bringing the data in successfully and sort of maintaining high quality. So it's a trusted source of data. So that's key.
Business KPIs or outcomes are almost always something you have to have. Any stakeholder who's investing in a resource like this is going to want to understand what are the actual business outcomes we're driving. So business KPIs are key. And the last bucket that's probably almost always in there is just engagement and adoption success metrics, so things like time to onboard, overall satisfaction. Those are really the big 3 that are almost always involved no matter the use case.
I'll also grab one, too. Let's see. So when working with customers on Data Cloud, what are some common pitfalls or mistakes that you see?
If I pull up a chair, I have a lot to share. But I'll distill it down to 2 answers. Along the people lines, when we think about the 3 Ps, people, process, platform, people and process are probably where you see probably the most pitfalls, thinking about people, thinking about who are the right folks to bring in. So I just discussed Center of Excellence, for example, right? So what we typically will see is the customer does not know who owns their data, who are the system owners or worse, they are already preoccupied with other work within their organization and don't have the capacity to take on, let's say, the Data Cloud aspects of this implementation or setting up the integrations, if you would, too. So a lot of times finding the right people, building that RACI is important and a critical first step as part of a Data Cloud project. And that's one of the common pitfalls I do see.
The other pitfall would be on the data. So thinking about -- understand -- do you have a really good understanding of your data that you're going to utilize? We typically see this manifest itself especially on some of our more comprehensive projects, like, let's say, for example, I'm dealing with a multi-org setup where I have multiple instances of CRM, and I want to leverage data cloud to build sort of a multi-work pipeline.
I have different data sets across eCRM org, the goal being to standardize. So there's some data strategy there in terms of what is an opportunity one or correlate to another opportunity in another. Do you have the same sort of schemas across them as well, too? It can also apply itself to external data as well. How do I standardize and define a data dictionary around that data so that I can make sense of it for a business end user? So if you don't take the time upfront to define that data strategy, have a data dictionary, that can also cause pitfalls down the line because really don't have a strong handle on what your data is and how it can be utilized downstream for the business.
Let's see. Question came up. This is a good one. Apologies. The architecture slide showed knowledge articles being outside of Data Cloud. How do you connect knowledge to make sure it's ingested in Data Cloud. Do you always need Data Cloud for it?
Yes. So this is why putting an architecture diagram down is helpful because that was certainly a mistake. The knowledge articles are uploaded into Data Cloud. The only way you can activate unstructured data in Agentforce is by way of Data Cloud. So those knowledge articles have to go through the vector database in Data Cloud. I think we were just trying to visually show them as kind of a separate use case from the live service rep interactions. But yes, those knowledge articles would be in Data Cloud, and it really is the only way to activate unstructured data. You have to use a vector database to transform that data into a source that's meaningful to any AI model, and Data Cloud is the solution for that.
I think that's good.
I see a good question that just came up. If we have Tableau Cloud for connectors, would we need Data Cloud as well? If so, what is the benefit of leveraging Data Cloud, too?
That's a pretty good question because I actually had this question -- this conversation with a customer earlier this morning. So I think the way to think about Data Cloud is along the lines of the left to right that Brock had mentioned earlier in the presentation. We're bringing in data from a number of different sources. We have a very robust list of connectors that we can ingest data from into the Data Cloud ecosystem. We are able to standardize and build a canonical data model around that. But the most important part is what kind of insights and actions could I determine and glean -- as a next step along that data pipeline.
So let's say, for example, I want to be able to create a lead in Sales and Service Cloud. I want to be able to trigger a journey in Marketing Cloud. I want to be able to segment an audience that I can utilize, let's say, for outside of a digital channel, for example, throw it on to an S3 bucket or onto an SFTP, for example. There are ways in which Data Cloud can action much more capabilities within the Salesforce ecosystem from that end outside of just analytics.
Data Cloud does provide analytics support in that Tableau can sit on top of Data Cloud, right? So you can have a JDBC connector between Tableau and Data Cloud. And Data Cloud is another data source for Tableau to leverage from that end, for dashboarding and things of that nature.
So I see them as not being or. I see them as being ands in that they can complement one another very well in that I can support my analytics use cases, but I can also support more of my cross-org automation use cases, cross-system use cases within the Salesforce ecosystem and also outside the Salesforce ecosystem.
This is just kind of all inherently baked in. Data Cloud through the retrieval augmented generation process that we do, which is really the whole process that allows Agentforce to retrieve your data. The Einstein Trust Layer sort of sits there inherently in that process. So when you're using Data Cloud and Agentforce, it's just kind of there and working behind the scenes to do all the trusted work that we're doing, like masking a data if it's in some information, removing it so that it's not actually being stored within those LLM frameworks, right? So the Trust Layer is just kind of inherently baked in.
All right. I think that's all we have time for today. So with that, as [ Ariana ] mentioned, the recording of the session will be shared out with all of you. So again, thank you for your time. Really appreciate you spending a little over a half hour with us today to learn more about all this. Thanks, everyone.
Thanks, guys. Happy hump day.
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🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Data Cloud ist laut Präsentation die zentrale Datenplattform, die ein einheitliches Kundenprofil (Customer 360) schafft und Agentforce mit aktivierbaren Daten versorgt — Fokus auf Aktivierung statt nur Speicherung.
- Nutzen: Kombination aus Zero Copy‑Zugriff, Vektor‑Datenbank für unstrukturierte Daten und Echtzeit‑Layer soll Agenten und Workflows direkt anreichern und Automatisierung ermöglichen.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Plattformrolle: Data Cloud wird als Basis für Customer 360 und Agentforce positioniert; enge Integration ins Metadata‑Framework erlaubt kontextsensitive Aktionen (z. B. Opportunity‑Updates).
- Technik: Zero Copy für Anbindung an Data Lakes (z. B. Snowflake/Databricks), Vektor‑Datenbank/Embeddings für unstrukturierte Inhalte und sub‑sekundärer Echtzeit‑Layer.
- Go‑to‑Market: Nutzt nutzungsbasierte Preisgestaltung, Starter‑Bundle inklusive Professional Services zur Beschleunigung und Community (Datablazer) als Anwendernetzwerk.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Finanzen: Keine neuen Finanz‑Guidance oder Zahlen im Webinar—kein Earnings‑Material.
- Produktneu: Konkrete Hinweise auf ausgerollte Governance‑/Security‑Features, explizite Aussage, dass Knowledge‑Artikel über die Vektor‑DB in Data Cloud geladen werden müssen, und Betonung der RAG (Retrieval‑Augmented Generation)‑Funktionalität.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Datenanbindung: Zero Copy vs. Ingest: Zero Copy wird als Federationsansatz erklärt; über 200 Connectors für Batch/Streaming stehen zur Verfügung.
- Organisation: Center of Excellence (COE) sollte Executive Sponsor, Owner, Business‑ und Technical Leads sowie LOB‑Vertreter enthalten.
- Erfolgsmessung: Fokus auf drei wiederkehrende Metrik‑Buckets: Datenintegration/Qualität, Business‑KPIs und Engagement/Adoption; häufige Fallstricke sind People/Process und fehlende Datenstrategie.
⚖️ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Reines Produkt‑/How‑to‑Webinar, das Data Cloud als Hebel zur Monetarisierung von Daten über Agentforce darstellt. Kurzfristig ist das Signal positiv für Adoption und Upsell; wichtigste Risiken für Umsetzung bleiben organisatorische Abstimmung und Datenqualität.
Salesforce — Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference 2025
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Not time for that. But I want to, first of all, thank you for what you've done for the industry. You created the SaaS industry. You created the cloud. And I still cannot get over the fact that when I first met you was the first Dreamforce 2003, and you were doing $50 million in revenue, and you had this audacious dream to build what we call now a SaaS company, a cloud company, you had the goal that they wanted to be as ubiquitous as windows and as sticky as SAP. Here we are, I mean, 22, 23 years later. -- what is ahead for Marc Benioff. And what is the head for Salesforce? What does the company look like? This is the rate of -- the time of tumultuous change and all kinds of questions, what's ahead for Marc?
Well, I got a haircut. So I'm okay. I -- well, first of all, congratulations, Kash. You've done an incredible service to our industry and our community and to the company, and we're also grateful for everything that you've done. And how many earnings calls?
125.
Yes. It's amazing. I -- I mean, if you want to take it at the tippy top, I guess, when I get up every day, I've never been more excited about my job. I really think that right now, we are at the kind of beginning of something that is going to be the biggest transformation in enterprise software that any of us have ever experienced. And already, -- at a high level, I'm excited about where Salesforce is, what we've become, where we are. I think at that point, when we met, we were doing something like $50 million in sales or something crazy like that. And I mean you can do the math. You can look at the numbers from this quarter and see where we are and probably only spending a couple of years in the $40 billion and on our way into the $50 billion.
And I don't think like when we had that conversation that we kind of saw that kind of clear growth trajectory. So that was kind of a moment then, but now is a moment also. And I think a year ago, if I look back when I was here, talking with David, we were just at the beginning, starting to talk about this kind of revelation that we had where we kind of really saw that so many customers were doing so many things with artificial intelligence and so excited, but they were still kind of grappling with the value proposition, what are they doing, what is the outcome going to be? And we saw that even manifest into this MIT study that appeared in the last month or 2 where so many customers have spent actually a lot of dough, but haven't completely got the outcome. And a year ago, we were kind of on our track. We had just really -- we were kind of coming into the Dreamforce Zone, if you remember the conversation. We knew what we wanted to create, but it was still months away from actually even getting the first initial round of code into the market.
So now we're about 9 months after delivering the first version of agent force, which is in service. Now, at that time, I wouldn't look back and go, "Oh, this is that kind of clear revolution of what's going to happen. But now I feel like I can take a few minutes and kind of give you like where I think things are going to go over the next few years. And I think that for us, we've become our own best example. And that's different because I think if we're not doing this first and really showing what's possible, we're not going to be able to really motivate all of our customers to be able to achieve it. So -- and it's not that we don't have -- now have 12,000 customers or something like that already starting to implement Agentforce.
It's this idea that this is very different. So A year ago, we had, I don't know, 600 or 700 or 8,000 support agents, whatever it is. And we had our support application, and we're managing our information. And there was Einstein in there, as you know. We have all different levels of AI going on. But this idea that we could somehow harness not just generative AI, but kind of a different way to kind of manifest the technology. This was an idea. Today, it's not an idea. Today, at Salesforce, in the last 9 months, there have been 1.5 million conversations done by our support organization by what's now about 4,000 humans who are doing customer support. But million conversations have been handled by digital AI agents. And there's a orchestrator that is orchestrating between the humans and the AI, keeping them all in sync because the AI cannot do everything, but it can do some things. And the humans and the AI working together can achieve an incredible outcome.
So what's cool is that the CSAT score of the AI agents and of the humans is about the same. And that is also a huge surprise to me. So when we look at kind of what we've traditionally called our Sales Cloud, now in our mind, we say, no, this is actually agentic sorry, what's our Service Cloud. I'm going to get to our sales cloud in a second. -- is now a genetic service. And that idea that we have a genetic service where humans and AI are working together to deliver customer service. At Salesforce, that has been transformational. And we had an all-hands call yesterday with our employees of 75,000 to 80,000 employees. And really explaining, number one, yes, we're building these products. But two, we're also reshaping our company to be in agentic enterprise.
So we're showing what we can build with the tools and we are going to be #1, our own best practice. In the second example, which is another huge surprise and the company I could keep going for a while is sales. And in the last 26 years, maybe there have been between 20 million and 100 million people have contacted Salesforce, who we did not call back. We just didn't call them back. And we didn't have the people to do it. But now we have an agentic sales and that is linked very tightly with our sales organization. We have about 15,000 salespeople and then we have this agentic sales as well. So the extension is incredible.
So this kind of Sales Cloud has evolved into agentic sales. And then each 1 of these products that we look at, whether it's sales or service or field service or Tableau, or Slack. In each and every case, you can see that it's not just about the traditional application, working with humans, but then humans are working with agents as well. And that is a big change for us. And it's not something I think that was going to happen so fast. Even like in my home, I have a airstream trailer outside and that Airstream trailer is kind of hooked into my power supply in my home on a device made by 1 of our customers called Eaton. And Eaton has a big field service organization, they come out and they repaired and so forth. And they've used our field service product, and you could see it and go in the App Store and get it.
But now when that field service agent comes out, there's an agent as part of the app. Not only is it kind of here's Marc Benioff, here's his home. Here's the device, here's what it's connected to. This is the whole service history, but also the agent is able to work with him and say, "Yes, here's how to improve it, here's how to make it better, all of those things. In all of these cases, whether it's sales or service or field service, and I can keep going, it's humans and agents working together to create that customer success. And that is what is really exciting. And when we get to Dreamforce on October 14 and I hope that you'll come I will be there, of course. You'll see, I think, just about every single 1 of our products.
I've been to every Dreamforce including the I've been to every single Dreamforce since the .
Paceful for that, by the way. Yes. And Trevor, would you bring in my phone for just 1 second. And I'm just going to show you because 1 really amazing thing is, if you just look at my phone, I'll just show you like I run my business on Slack. You know that. It's great. We have 1 million customers on Slack. We have 150,000 or something companies on sales force. But if I just come on here and I just want to kind of look at what's going on, on Slack, okay? And then you can see right here, if I just go to Slack and then I just go to Agentforce, Here, you can just see -- you can take it. You'll see like there's dozens of agent forecast -- you're not going to see any -- no worry. I wouldn't be handling your phone. I want to hand it to you.
But what you can do though is you could renew some customers, you could sell something, you could even get into the HR benefits, and you can see how the agents are just running right inside Slack. That idea, again, now that I'm now working with the agents myself so that you can see I have a CEO agent, I have a sales agent. If I go here, I have all my agents, so I can get in, I can even get in here. I can operate every aspect of the business right from here. That idea kind of where we used to talk about, I can run my business from my phone. But now I'm kind of running it in partnership with these agents. So on 1 part of my business over here, I've got service, and I've got, yes, my 5,000 service agents, but they're working with my thousands of service agents as well. I've got my sales force, but they're working in partnership with the sales agents. And I'm working with these agents. And in every aspect of my business, this is now happening. And that's powerful. And it's making us more profitable, more successful giving us higher customer satisfaction. And now I think we have clarity that for each 1 of our customers, and I just got off the road, I was on the road, as you know, for 8 weeks in Europe, met with hundreds of customers.
Each one has the opportunity to go through the same kind of organizational transformation that I'm going through to be more profitable, to have better cash flow, to have higher customer success to use technology in this way that's going to automate me in this incredible new way. It's going to require a lot of change management for those companies but kind of very early examples of the success of these customers is amazing. So that vision of an genic enterprise, a vision of humans and agents working together across every line of business. This is kind of my belief what will be true for our whole industry going forward.
And the future of the software industry, has been called in your question because of AI. Is someone that -- I mean you started Salesforce in 1998, was it '98, yes, and you worked at Oracle, you went through the whole client server transition. -- you actually -- when I met you, you explained to me what the web browser is going to do to the enterprise software industry, and you are the first executive that I knew that was able to put a web browser front end on top of a drab user interphase and make it look so pretty, right? When I look at AI, I feel like AI is a new UI. But then people tell me that, well, yes, it's going to take over software. You don't need applications anymore. I can custom build an AI that can do forecasting and planning and this and that. What do you think of that?
Well, I think that we -- you can see how for customers, they've gotten very entranced by these ideas should they have their own models? Should they have this? Should they should they build this themselves, what we call it, should they DIY their AI. And in 1 of our customers is a bank, not Goldman Sachs, but a large bank. -- one of the largest. And I was talking to the CEO and they're like, "Listen, we have the PhDs. We have this, we're doing this. We're rolling our own. We're going to make this work. and I'm like, okay, but in your wealth management, we're already working with them with Agentforce and take a look at these results. And then when it actually got to that level, they consider in this case, this ability to use a platform that's going to give you 3 key things.
First, it's going to give you the applications that your humans need because at your bank at my company at every company reflected in this room, there's a lot of employees who are going to be automated and those automations can happen through various levels of applications. Maybe some of the user interfaces on those applications are changing. But you can see even in the applications like I just posted on my ex-fee this weekend, Slack, for example, this is still a very powerful application that I'm using every single day. I still need a direct message my employees. I still need to collaborate. I still need to look at all my analytics. I still need to understand and get access to all my customer records. As you said, my forecast, but I'm working with agents I'm working with the AI to achieve my success. I've been doing this myself for quite a few years.
But to get it working actually part and parcel as part of the application. That is what's really been so exciting to me. And that, I think people got a little bit confused thinking like, oh, wow, this is so exciting. Does that mean we're going to just disconnect from the rest of the organization. Well, how are you going to manage all your sales folks or all your service professionals or yourself? And you have to have a platform where humans and agents are going to work together.
How do you see the -- you also not only put the first person to put web browser and crop of enterprise software, but you also had the SaaS model, Software as a Service. Remember that one. So now people tell me that SaaS is kind of a flat industry. It's all about consumption. How do you monetize? What is the business model of a sales force look like 1 year, 2 year, 3 years down the line? What do you see just consumption versus seats play, interplay in your base?
Well, I think that seats have a role like, for example, even like I think you had Sarah speak earlier on ChatGPT like you can see that's a seat-based model, right? Like you probably have like subscribed for $20 a month $200 a month. So...
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The seat-based model is a model that will continue in software. Consumption is also model. Like, for example, we have our data cloud, that's a consumption-based product. We have our Commerce Cloud, that's a consumption-based product. Our e-mail marketing, we do 11 trillion e-mails a year that we sent out that's trillion with a T. That is all -- currently, for example, that's all one-way conversations, right? We're a sending out these 11 trillion e-mails, but before the end of the year, and you'll see this also Dreamforce, that will transform that at the end of each one of those e-mails is going to be an agent, right, that you're going to be in conversation with. So that as a consumption model, that will continue. And so you'll have a combination of usage models, consumption models, transaction models, all of those things. And for a large company like Salesforce, we're not a small company and we're not a single product company, we're going to have many different models that are going to work together.
For our customers, especially our large customers, what they want now is they want -- when I'm working with them, they want an agentic enterprise license agreement. They want us to be able to come in and kind of give them one price with everything bundled together over 3 years. And as we're starting to deliver those or as they're getting ready to go through their transformation, that's what's exciting to them. And those are obviously extremely large agreements. And you saw that those extremely large agreements grew very dramatically in the quarter, and I expect for this year, we're going to see a lot of that. And the customers that I'm meeting with directly in almost every single case, that CEO, they have a fever for transformation, but they don't have a trajectory. They haven't really had -- they know they could get more productivity from AI, they know they can have better KPIs. They know they can be more profitable and in all these things. But in many cases, they don't know how to get from A to B. And our job is to be their trusted adviser and say, "Here's where you are and here's where we can get you.
And we have examples of customers in your industry that we can show you -- but let's start with customer 0, us. And we'll look at our numbers and look at what we've been able to do on productivity and all these things and how -- this is how we're going to get you there as well. So that is kind of the last model, which is they're still going to want some kind of ability to kind of receive it all in 1 agreement.
Got it. So you've got now 12,000 Agentforce customers. if this is to scale, how do you see the underlying technology changing to ensure that this foundational platform can support 120x. We're talking about -- Thomas Kurian was earlier here today. And practically, every 1 of the AI native is talking about 10x, 20x. So to support that kind of growth in transactions how do you scale this agent technology going forward? Just as you scale the SaaS platform from you wanted to be 1 million users, you ended up being like 50 million, 60 million, 70 million. And I went through a learning experience .
That's -- I would say there is 1 part of this where we're better lucky than smart. We were already going through before really the LLM revolution kind of a data transformation of our products. We had decided that we would do -- first of all, we would take all of our core applications. And we would start to -- especially the ones that we bought, acquired over time, that we were ready -- we were going to integrate and we were going to create 1 application platform, 1 application layer. So we're going to rewrite Tableau. We were going to rewrite MuleSoft. We are going to rewrite Commerce Cloud. We are going to do all this and bring it together so that it could have fluidity at the application layer. We really had a vision that we could deliver that and deliver it at a level of speed and scale that would offer our customers a level of functionality like they've never had before. But then we wanted to add 1 more thing to that. we wanted to add a data layer. We were early investors in Snowflake. You know that. I think we made 3 of those or .
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I mean it was a great investment for us, I think our return was something like $1.5 billion or more, something like that. One of our best from our venture portfolio, Databricks will be another one as well. We're .
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Great. We're very inspired by those data companies and as we looked at them, we're like, it's even more powerful if we take our applications and we integrate them with the data cloud. So we love those companies. We partner with those companies, but we also want to have our own data cloud as well. We want our data cloud to federate easily to theirs. So that means if you have a Snowflake or a Databricks or like you mentioned like a Google big query or an Amazon Redshift or even now IBM mainframes and others, you can just even Workday, you can just hit the button. And our data cloud, it's as if the data is running in our system but we can kind of shadow it and keep it running in their system, if that's necessary. And it's an activation of the data onto our platform. So now our applications in that whole application layer that I described with all those kind of applications, that is now able to read all that data. No one else has done that work.
And then it was a year ago that we said, "Well, maybe there's a third layer, an a genetic layer at the top of that. So if you had an application layer, a data layer and an agenetic layer, what would happen? But we are writing all of that for scale for multi-language, multicurrency first, maybe we're one of the only software companies that is doing it that a significant amount of our customers are small businesses and medium businesses, small businesses are like 0 to 200 employees, medium businesses from like 200 employees to a couple of thousand employees. General, we call it general business from like 2,000 employees to 5,000 employees or very, very large companies, the Fortune 100 companies, we run so many of them. And the government and then ISVs. And those are like our 6 segments.
So those 3 layers then need to scale across all 6 of those segments as well. But that idea that those -- and people ask me like, for example, in our example with Disney, we've been able to achieve in some incredible power with our Agentic layer with Disney. One of the reasons why because for a human and doing Disney's customer work, it's very complicated. They've got such a great product line that they have so many options. I'm going to go to the park. I'm going to make a reservation at these restaurants, maybe I have these allergies. I'm going to make a hotel reservation. I'm going to get a special promotion. By the time you get it all put together, you kind of need AI to kind of help you configure this product that Disney can offer you.
But our AI has provided this kind of 93% accuracy. And the reason it gets that high is because it has context. And the context comes out of the data. If you don't have the data, you're not going to achieve that level of accuracy with the AI, and that has been a tremendous shift for our customers that we're able to apply the applications, the data and the agentic layer altogether.
And I think that's -- I'll give you an example, just right down the street, Williams-Sonoma, based here in San Francisco. We did our first agent maybe 6 months ago. It's a service agent, it's a sales agent. It's working with their customers. It's been so successful they have now deployed it for every 1 of their brands. We want to be able to turn Williams-Sonoma into a complete agentic enterprise. And all of the same examples for me, I want to be able to take them and every single one of our customers and say, "Here, now all your humans and agents are working together."
Marc, if we are to look at -- for investors that may have not completely bought into this. what are the indicators that they should be looking for that you will be sharing with us to help gauge that, okay, you know what, I'm confident that Salesforce is a real player in the agentic world. in a SaaS plus AI world or seats plus consumption world. .
Well, one of the things that's been very important to me is that we've gone through in the last call it, post-pandemic is this complete financial transformation of the company. So I think you know we're going to deliver about $15 billion of cash flow. That's been very exciting for us, very high levels of profitability, kind of now very squarely in the mid-30s. We're going to -- we have these kind of core financial metrics. But then we have a very strong traction on getting customers signed up on the agentic layer. Now the reason why that is, this is a logical extension of our relationship with these customers. So we have to take our 1 million Slack customers, 150,000 core Salesforce customers and get that agentic layer running with for all of them. And I think that they're very motivated to do that.
But if we went back a year ago, I keep going back to the year ago example, we hadn't used the word agent before. We hadn't used the word agentic. I remember even when I was on Mad Money and I used the word agentic for the first time, which was I think it was about 9 months ago, and Jim Cramer said, "Wait a minute, what is the word agentic, what does that mean? And that's where we were in the industry. It's going very fast. But that idea, yes, we should just get every single 1 of our customers signed up for that. So yes, there's going to be a certain amount of consumption and of our data cloud. It's going to be a certain number of transactions with our agents, it's going to be usage. It's going to be also growing a lot of our seats as well. We're still growing so many of our seats in all of our core clouds.
How does it happen? I thought I was going to take away jobs in marketing. You're not going to have marketing jobs, not going to have customers are poor jobs, developer jobs. What is your view as someone that's been through these cycles where tech automates introduces productivity and there's too says, it's going to take away jobs, and it doesn't happen, could it be real this time.
I'm trying to be that best practice myself, as I mentioned. We have 75,000, 80,000 employees -- they're not all in the same seats that they were 9 months ago. I have already radically reshaped the company. So I have thousands of more salespeople, but I don't necessarily have thousands of more headcount. I've moved people around. And when I'm on that -- I said all-hands call yesterday, my message to my employees also is it's time for all of us to kind of get to another level in our capabilities in AI in this core technology because where all of our roles are going to slightly shift including mine. But some of the predictions that have been made in these areas, I think, might be a little bit aggressive or may be made by people who don't run the companies because I don't know exactly what they're talking about. I don't -- I know that some jobs will change, but not all jobs are going to change.
Wanted to also ask you, when you talked about the financial discipline, is it I would imagine that there is a desire to reaccelerate top line growth rate because I mean, there's no better way to show improving trajectory than to show better top line growth rate. Is that possible for Salesforce?
Well, I think you've seen it, right, in the last couple of quarters that there is some acceleration happening, and I expect it to continue. I don't want to get too aggressive in my commentary, and I'm not giving guidance, but because I just gave guidance, but I expect -- and I -- my goal is to move into -- back into the double-digit growth category even as we're kind of starting to enter into the 50s. Like I was saying that we -- as I said, we're all able to do the math and put these things together. But I believe that we are going to go through a huge investment change in our industry. I think that coming out of the pandemic, for a lot of software companies, including ours, a lot of software was sold in the pandemic.
As an example, we've more than doubled the size of our company since the pandemic. You know that. So now we're getting close to tripling the size of our company since the pandemic. And when we went through that, there was definitely an overage of software that happened in the pandemic because there was such a -- you remember that it was like this kind of frenzy around it. And then there had to be an absorption, I think, into the customers. I think this was for most software companies, not just ours. And now we're coming out of it, but not just that we've kind of rightsized that. In fact, our management team just met a few hours ago to talk through this very point. But the next piece, okay, is -- and I think what we didn't see is now we're into that good flow with our customer, but now we want to take that customer and transform them.
I want to be able to take every single 1 of those customers that I mentioned, whether it's a Williams Sonoma or DIRECTV or Reddit or any of the customers that I talked about on the...
Neroli.
Relucnelli, every single 1 can benefit from this transformation. And this is going to be an incredible opportunity for each and every 1 of them to go through this. And so when I was with -- I mean, I'm not going to go through each and every customer name, but I was with a very large customer in Paris. And they run a very large industrial company. And it's somebody I've worked with for more than a decade, and they have a new CEO, and I'm working with that CEO and I just can walk in through the examples that I'm walking through you, but for their own business. As the new CEO, they have an incredible fire to do this transformation and they just -- it was crystal clear the benefit that it could bring them.
I think in some cases, when we're selling technology, it's not as clear to the C level exactly what the benefit is. In this case, with an agent saying, we're going to help you become an agenetic enterprise and here is exactly how we're going to do it and how fast we're going to do it. It's very motivating. And for me, as the CEO of a large company, it's been very motivating. And that's where I'm like, oh, no, the reason my pipelines are fuller and richer than ever before is because agents are filling them right now in ways that before I never have that ability. Instead, I was leaving highly qualified leads from my competitors on the floor. I just didn't have enough people to call back. So I was helping fuel the industry.
Now I'm calling every single person back. I can have a conversation with every single prospect. I can service every single customer instantly. And the customer, if they don't want to be talking with an agent, they can immediately escalate to a human because it's seamlessly integrated between the application and the agent because it's the same piece of code. It's the same data set. It's the same agentic layer. That is really unusual. And I would say that a year ago, that was not as crystal clear to us as it is now, that not only are we just going to deliver a product but that we would transform ourselves and our customers while doing it.
And CEOs and founders like you that wake up every day thinking about this big transformation ahead and how you position the company for this new tech cycle? You guys are...
I will tell you, it was -- it's kind of a strange process because I get excited about building the technology and then what I also then like once I have the product, and it's kind of working, I like to get out there and work with the customers. And this summer, when I went to Europe and I lived in Geneva and then I was in Amsterdam. I'm in Paris, I'm in London. I'm in all these various places, working with these customers one-on-one, sitting just like we're sitting now.
Is that a change for you? Because you don't travel to see this many customers SP-5 No, I do. .
It's something I've always done. It's what I really love doing -- and I would say that our -- each and every customer, it's kind of -- they go to investor conferences just like this, and they get -- it doesn't matter what industry they're in. They could be in financial services. They could be industrial, they could be intact. They could be in retail. They could be on any of these things. They get the first question they get, what is AI doing for you? What is your AI strategy? How are you going to create a better set of financial metrics for your business? How is generative AI going to change you? Well, what does this technology mean for you?
And for a lot of them, they've experimented that they've tried, they've tinkered. They've done all these things, but they don't have the clear answer. And I feel like, no, this is actually where you are going to get the value right now. And that is what I think is very exciting. We always knew it was going to come aggressively in the sales and marketing area, but this is very clear step set of actions they can all take. And I think that's going to be a huge accelerator on our business and our ability to grow our company. Look, you know because we've talked about it many times, I'm going to $100 billion in revenue. I'm not going to do it irresponsibly. I'm doing it responsibly.
$100 billion organic?
Well, I think that organic is a very critical part of our business. and it always has been. But there's always going to be an inorganic part of our business as well, but it has to be a responsible part. It has to be done with the right level of discipline. Like I think Informatica is probably our best practice. We're buying it with the right level of metrics, the right ideas, but it's going to -- that Informatica acquisition, it really amplifies that AI foundation layer that is -- that AI foundation layer that we have, which is our data cloud, MuleSoft, Informatica and Tableau, that's fueling and embedded into all of those apps. Nobody has done anything like that for the enterprise. That is really awesome.
So -- but when we bought Informatica, we weren't just willing to pay any price, whatever it had to be the right level, right capability. We're still looking at how do we bring it in correctly into the company but yes, inorganic has been a part of our business. Like Slack was a part of it. MuleSoft was a part of it. ExactTarget was a part of it. We had a lot of critical things. We've done more than 60 acquisitions. But now look at where we are from a financial metrics point of view, we should be able to bring those metrics forward as well. I think we still have some of the highest cash flow in the industry. I mean I don't know the numbers as well as you do, but I think $15 billion this year is pretty high in software. We're looking at exactly how do we get motivated to get back into double-digit growth and then how do we get to that our $100 billion goal.
On that note, I wish you really well, my friend. And thanks for the last .
We continue to work together, and I just want to I think for everyone in this room, I'll just tell you how grateful we are for everything that you've done for us. you're creating a -- thank you very much.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Salesforce — Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference 2025
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Salesforce positioniert sich als "agentic enterprise" – Menschen und KI-Agenten arbeiten zusammen über eine dreischichtige Plattform (Anwendungs‑, Daten‑ und Agenten‑Layer). Ziel: Transformations‑verkauf an Bestandskunden, höhere Profitabilität und wieder beschleunigtes Wachstum.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Agentforce: 1,5 Mio. Gespräche über ~9 Monate; Agenten entlasten Support und Sales, Customer‑Satisfaction (CSAT) vergleichbar mit Menschen.
- Plattformarchitektur: Fokus auf Application Layer + Data Cloud + Agentic Layer; Federierung zu Snowflake/Databricks/Cloud‑Speichern möglich.
- Monetarisierung: Mischung aus Seat‑Modellen, Consumption (z.B. Data/Commerce) und großen "agentic enterprise" Lizenz‑Deals über mehrere Jahre.
🔍 Neue Informationen
- Adoptionskennzahlen: Nennung von ~12.000 Agentforce‑Kunden, ~4.000 Support‑Mitarbeitern, und 75.000–80.000 Mitarbeitenden im Unternehmen; $15 Mrd erwarteter Cashflow‑Hebel wurde betont.
- Guidance‑Update: Keine konkrete neue Umsatz‑Guidance; Fokus auf qualitative Beschleunigung und Rückkehr in den zweistelligen Wachstumsbereich.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Skalierbarkeit: Wie skaliert die Agententechnologie (LLMs, Transaktionsvolumen)? Antwort: Plattform wurde vorgebaut, Data Cloud + Rewrites sollen Skalierung ermöglichen.
- Arbeitsplätze: Folge auf Automatisierung? Benioff: Rollen verschieben, Umschichtungen statt massiver Entlassungen; Change‑Management erforderlich.
- Wachstum & M&A: Wie schnell reaccelerieren? Ziel bleibt organisches Wachstum plus disziplinierte Akquisitionen (Informatica als Beispiel).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Fireside‑Chat bestätigt strategischen Wandel: AI‑gestützte Agenten sind jetzt produktiv eingesetzt und treiben Sales/Service‑Opportunitäten. Für Anleger bleibt entscheidend, ob Adoption, große Vertragsabschlüsse und die technische Integration die versprochenen Margen‑ und Wachstumsverbesserungen liefern.
Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning. Thank you for joining us. I'm really excited for today's session, our Q3 deeper look into our latest product strategy and innovation. And as you heard me mention on Wednesday, Salesforce is in the midst of transforming ourselves and helping our customers transform into Agentic Enterprises. And today, you're going to hear about that journey. From our leaders, we have a wide swath of talent here from across the organization, focusing really on data and Agentforce deployment motions.
Quickly first, some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on Forms 10-K, 10-Q and any other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements.
And with that, I'm going to hand the call over for a brief round of introductions with the group of talent that we have here that I'm very pleased to introduce. So first, let me introduce, Madhav.
All right. Thanks, Mike. Happy to be here. My name is Madhav Thattai. I've been at Salesforce for 5 years, and I am the COO for our Agentforce product organization. Ravi?
Hey, everyone, good morning. My name is Ravi, and I lead engineering for Salesforce Data Cloud, EVP of Engineering. I've been in Salesforce for 6 years. I've been in the data industry for a lot longer than that at Microsoft and other places. I'm happy to meet you all today.
Joe Inzerillo, I'm the Chief Digital Officer and the young in this crowd as far as tenure goes. I've been at Salesforce about 6 months, immediately prior to that SiriusXM and prior to that Disney, where I was Chief Technology Officer and led the development of Disney+, amongst other things. And with that, I'll hand it over to Andy.
Thanks, Joe. My name is Andy White, and I have the privilege of leading our team's efforts of supporting primarily our sales and our customer success and professional services teams as they support our customers. So all the technology that we use, we try to be the best example of what Salesforce looks like and drive sales force on Salesforce and Customer Zero, which you're going to hear more about today. Anna, one of my partners.
Thank you, Andy. Hi. My name is Anna Le, I'm the COO for Customer Success. I have the privilege of serving our customers every day. And in this context, I also get to be a customer. So back to Mike.
Great. So just prior to handing it to Madhav here, the context I gave the group and for this audience to understand is we know very much top of mind for many of you out there is what the adoption curve, what the growth curve looks like for Agentforce and data cloud, what we're seeing inside customers, some of the challenges, some of the wins that we've had and then what the expectations are moving forward as we help customers kind of through this journey. And so that's the backdrop by which we set up this call and that we're looking to explore today.
With that, of course, we're going to end the session with Q&A. We hope to have, call it, 25 to 30 minutes for Q&A once the presentations are over. [Operator Instructions]. So with that, I'm going to hand it over to Madhav.
Thank you, Mike. So we've been on this journey with Agentforce. it seems remarkable to think that the product only launched 9 months ago and we're very, very excited for all the incredible innovation we're going to be bringing to Dreamforce, which I'm going to touch on here in a minute. But we really wanted to share with all of you how we think about this business. Agentforce and Data Cloud are consumption businesses where we want to really drive value for customers and ensure they're getting through their implementation cycle, and they are learning this technology, these products along the way. And so we really center the performance of this business and how we manage things on this funnel.
And if you look at the funnel, you'll notice we specifically emphasize the funnel in an inverted shape because what matters the most for us is that our customers are being successful. And so this daily kind of obsession with customer success, including, of course, our remarkable colleagues at Salesforce as Customer Zero really drives our energy, our activity across our product team, our engineering team, our customer success team and our sales team. So if you look at the bottom of the funnel, that's really where we think about our sales process. How do we manage our pipe, how do we manage our closed deals.
And as you all know, we now have both your traditional employee-based SKUs where we've launched now the Agentforce edition and our consumption-based SKUs. We started with our Conversation SKU, and then we launched our Flex Credits SKU, which we talked about in earnings as well, that's doing really well. So that's the sales process. We then get into the critical phase of implementation. And here, our customers are really thinking about what do they want to use these agents for? How do they think about the use cases? How do they think about building them? How do they think about testing them and then getting them out to their deployment.
And so that critical implementation phase is where we, our partner community, our professional services, our customer success teams are very involved in helping a customer be successful. And then at the end, you reach the consistent usage phase. And what we see here, and you can see some of the incredible customer logos. I'm going to share some use cases here in a minute. But what we see here is customers moving both depth as well as breadth. In a single use case, let me try to make the use case more sophisticated, but I'm also going to start to expand across a multitude of use cases, and we'll show you some examples here in a minute.
So I want to ground you all on this because this is a fundamental way in which we think this business can be successful and how we manage it. Now as we start going through this funnel, we really manage it with a variety of programs. Go to the next slide. Across the funnel, we think about, of course, our critical sales programs, we're focusing on industry, really driving a lot of flexibility from a pricing perspective. And then in the implementation phases where over the last year, we have been very deep with our customers to help them think about their agentic transformation. Now this is not just a technology initiative. This is a customer thinking about what value are they trying to create for their business.
What are the kinds of use cases that are going to drive the biggest impact. And so this strategy, this change management and of course, the technology that comes along with it is something that we go very deep with our customers on. We began working with them with our forward deployed engineering team more than a year ago. We have a set of customers that we deeply focus with that are trying truly cutting-edge use cases. We call these our momentum and our hyper-focused customers. And then, of course, we're really investing in the community.
We recently launched our Agentblazer training that anyone can take online to start to really get comfortable with Agentforce and all of the incredible platform capabilities we've built. We're enabling, driving our partners and of course, working with our professional services team. So these programs are really catered at ensuring we are driving customer success as customers think about this journey. However, they're also really critical because we have the privilege to work with well over 12,000 customers now that are on this journey, and we learn from them every single day. And that learning directly drives our priorities from a product perspective.
So in the middle, for example, you see the things that customers want to really start to emphasize as they start to expand these use cases. How do they make their data readiness easier? How do they bring more determinism and control to these agents where you take advantage of all the goodness of the large language models, but you are also able to execute on structured business process and logic. Customers that get further in this journey have new questions. How do I test these agents at scale? How do I observe? How do I know what my ROI is, what my analytics are? And so this is just a wealth of information that we work with our customers on that directly goes into the product.
And we're really, really excited about bringing a lot of this innovation to Dreamforce, which you'll all see very soon. Before I wrap up and head to Ravi, I just want to show a few customer use cases of some incredible successes our customers have seen as they've been on this agent journey. And I'll touch on a couple of these. Indeed, of course, is an incredible customer of ours. And what's so inspiring about Indeed and their agentic transformation is that they've got a laser-focused North Star metric. They want to improve the time to which someone gets recruited by 50%. And that is an inspiring goal that will have a lot of impact on their constituents.
Indeed is really working on a multitude of use cases with us. They've got use cases that face their candidates, which is the most important and critical experience that they've now expanded their footprint on significantly. Then they've got a whole host of business processes, verification, ensuring that you actually have the right employer matching and then internal use cases that are driving productivity for their employees. So Indeed, very, very inspiring use case. I'd also love to touch on Engine. This is a travel company based in EMEA. And they are performing cancellation processes, reservation processes all using Agentforce. So this isn't just answering questions and simple FAQ. This is really going into core business logic at their company.
And they're now projecting a pretty significant 15% improvement in their handle time, which, of course, is going to drive a lot of savings for them. And then finally, I'll touch on DIRECTV. DIRECTV is really going very deep on use cases that face their employees. How do they help their employees resolve billing resolution issues much faster. And they're one of our most significant consumers now of our Flex Credit product, really starting to drive this across their employee base to see productivity. So I just wanted to give you a sense of a lot of different use cases that customers are doing right now. With that, I'll hand it over to Ravi to talk a little bit about DataCloud.
Awesome. As is evident from what Madhav was saying, all our customers are looking at Agentic Enterprise through the lens of the various use cases that they're looking at that spans many different dimensions. As you all know, we have been on this journey of understanding customer data and intent and bringing all of the insights from across the enterprise and projecting it through Customer 360 across the space. We seem to be in the right place at the right time in the context of actually what the need is not just about data technologies, it's about deriving the context so that our agents can be more meaningful, more relevant, more timely across the space, all with a consistent platform for governance.
So this is what is resonating very well with our customers. As an example, Wyndham, they have been on this journey of trying to understand their customers [Audio Gap] customer-facing, but how their company runs, how they think about their franchisees and so on and so forth. So this pillar of data has really enabled us to unlock the entirety of the enterprise with the right context. If you look further, how are we really accomplishing that? If you go to the next slide. What we have been doing across the space is to -- can you please advance the slide, please?
What we are seeing across the space is to really think about not just tapping structured data, which has usually been the realm of how thought about it in the traditional CRM, but really unstructured data and how do we really bring together both the productivity employee created content from Microsoft's ecosystem or Google's ecosystem or Slack and putting that in context and being able to use that across sales, service or across the space as it relates to something like tech and IT as we are entering ITSM as well.
You would see a plethora of these advancements come to market, whether we are ingesting or Zero Copying or searching across the enterprise to bring the right context has really been our focus. Now moving on to the next slide, while you all heard the financial numbers in the calls, not just this quarter but from before as well, what's really, really interesting is the usage and adoption. Across the board, whether it is FedEx or Indeed or Wyndham, what we are seeing again is a phenomenal adoption of not just ingest capabilities, but Zero Copy has taken off quite a bit with 30% of our traffic right now as it relates to data coming through external sources with data Zero Copy.
More important is also equally the fact that we are activating a lot of interesting use cases. Customers often start with one, they come back and refuel the tank, as Miguel said in the earnings call as well. Just this quarter, Q2, we had 40% of our growth in ACV come from expansion deals where customers are seeing a lot more value and being able to not worry about how to expand from marketing into sales very easily, very quickly because their platform is robust and set right. So the best example to really articulate all of that is our Customer Zero. We ourselves of course are doing phenomenal work. And Joe, maybe you can help the team understand how we are...
Great. Thanks, Ravi. So as mentioned, I'm the Chief Digital Officer, and the IT function reports into my organization. And so that includes the technology that we build and use ourselves. It also includes all the third-party technologies. So I think it makes me a good proxy for a lot of the customers that we are selling to who are the CIOs, CXOs inside -- or outside the company, I should say. And the challenge that I think that we have with this, but it's also the opportunity is the Agentic Enterprise or what we like to call the lean Agentic Enterprise is really a new concept.
And so much like when Salesforce started, we weren't just selling a different version of CRM, we were selling SaaS, which was new at the time, too. We had to educate the market, and we had to use ourselves as an example of what was possible in this new model. And so my team is really charged with using technology to help assist us to be the lean Agentic Enterprise. And I think there are all sorts of aspects of it. I'm not going to drain the slide, but I think what I really focused on it is there's no template for it. And so we have to be ruthlessly focused on data and prioritization and making sure that what we're doing, we're constantly measuring efficacy on.
We can go to the next slide. This is also one of the things that we have from strategic standpoint core principles. And you can see like that focus on quality. A lot of times, when people want to get into agentics, they want to do a bunch of things simultaneously. And the fact is like focusing on the critical use cases that you think the agent can be successful of is like a big part of how you get started and a big part of how we get started or got started. We're going to look at some of those examples a little bit later. But measurement is really important. So a lot of times, what people wind up with is if you're going to implement an agent, you come to realize that you don't actually have great instrumentation around the humans.
And so if you're going to start to try to figure out, is this agent capable of doing this task as good or better? Can it offload, can it augment? You really have to have comprehensive measurement of the entire process. And that's obviously one of the things that's a core capability of Salesforce. But even ourselves as Customer Zero are finding that we have to put instrumentation, more checkpoints at different spots inside of workflow so that we could actually like weave humans and agents working together in an observable and then continuously improving type of way. We go to the next slide.
I think one of the things that's really important here is the fact that agents require the fact that people constantly have to attend to them. When I was working at Disney, the Marvel movie guys had a great saying, which was they never actually finished the movie. They just shipped it. And I think that's sort of the case with agents as well. We get agents to a point of efficacy where we find them that they're impacting the business or delivering value, but it's a continuous improvement. We get feedback from our customers that use internal customers and external customers every single day. And so it's incumbent upon us to take that feedback to continue to improve the agent.
And so that measurement I was speaking about where the baseline is of what the current human performance of that particular task is, is one thing. But we're already starting to see where we're getting better than the humans at some of these very bespoke tasks that we're having agents do. And when the agent gets better, the only way that we can figure out what the real headroom is, is to constantly improve test and measure. And that's a big part of the process for developing the lean Agentic Enterprise. We go to the next slide. So this is a dashboard. The data is not real because obviously, this will be market moving data.
So this is a mock-up that we use from a sales standpoint to show people without showing the actual data, but I would say it is directionally exactly what's happening right now and the dashboard that we built to talk about our SDR agent. And Marc mentioned this a little bit yesterday -- Wednesday on the earnings side of it, where the SDR agent or the sales development agent is part of our sales agent. And what it does is it essentially cultivates leads. And those leads that is cultivating this one in particular, are leads that previously we had scored so low in propensity that they really got automated follow-up from the company and humans were not reaching out to them just from a scale standpoint.
We just couldn't possibly afford to have as many humans talking to all these people there because the hit rate was so low because the propensity was so low. What we now have is a sales agent that could autonomously work those leads. And from what I'd like to call the sawdust on the floor, we were able to pick this up and turn those leads into actual pipeline. And so right now, our sales agent has done over $1.5 million in pipeline that's been created from leads that were essentially previously just thrown into the automated offer that are now being worked by an AI using Agentforce and our Sales Cloud and Data Cloud behind the scenes to mine the data that's required to provide this function, and we're now actually seeing real results on it.
And I think this is the point of really finding a use case, focusing on it, iterating on it and then continuing to push the envelope and see how far you could get with it. If we go to the next slide, there's -- a lot of these focus on these hero agents, and you can see some of the data here. And so it's not just these outside-facing things. It's an employee-facing thing. It's outside-facing agents. We're going to talk in a second about help. These are all different functions that we think agentics is going to play a part of. But part of the ultimate evolution and our vision for this is humans and agents working together. But the ways in which they work together are not agents taking over the complete job of a human.
It's processes or particular aspects of a job that the agents are uniquely well suited for that we can put them in, we can continue to tune, we can continue to improve. And the sum is greater than the parts, humans and agents working together to deliver outcomes. If we go to the next slide, this is one of the things I think is super exciting. The help use cases, both in my time in Salesforce and prior to coming to Salesforce using agentics as far as help goes, the help and support use cases are the ones that are actually very obviously very well suited to agents, partially because the work that's done by humans is very regimented and very instrumented.
So a lot of companies including us, would outsource these to various different call centers, et cetera. And those call centers have a high rotation of people. The folks coming in and out, average tenure is somewhere between 12 and 18 months. So you had to build a training curricula, i.e., you had data at a pretty good spot. You had to put instrumentation. You want to find out which of the reps is doing their job, and you are measuring outcomes. And those are the key ingredients for an agent -- a human agent. It's also the key ingredients for an automated agent.
So these drop-in support use cases, which are not exactly drop-in, they still require work, they still require refinement and have really been delivering results for us. And so if we look at the next page, we talk about deflection of 77% of our cases, which I think is really important. We can go to the next slide as well. One of the things though is coming back to what I've been talking about this entire section, which is this constant improvement cycle where you measure, you understand, you refine and you improve and then you keep coming back and forth and back and forth between that.
As evidence of that, I -- while I run the IT function reports into my organization, I actually work for our Chief Product Officer, Steve Fisher. And so we are part of the product development road map. And I'd like to say that part of the job of Customer Zero is we take the challenges on head on, on helping refine the products so our customers don't have to go through that same pain. And then we can show some of the ways that we've then taken that mature product and enabled it to actually continue to improve the business and continue to improve what we're doing. And so with that, I'm going to turn it over to Anna to talk a little bit more about the use case.
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate you going through that. And as I kind of mentioned, it's our privilege to serve our customers. But one of the fun things has been to be a customer in this space, and just to kind of add to this slide, there's been certainly lots of iterations and lots of learnings. And just from a perspective of someone delivering service, anyone who's in the service industry will know that it's not just about answering customer questions, helping them in the moments that matter, but also in how we make our customers feel in those moments.
And that's been a key learning for us and that wasn't an area of focus for us in the beginning, where we're focused on like the data and hydrating it and making sure it's all -- the sources is good and it's clean and the quality of that. We focus on making sure that agents can answer questions accurately. And what we really kind of learned in a lot of our testing, and I'll kind of share with you an example, it was Christmas Eve. And I went to our agents and just asked kind of a plain question, it's Christmas Eve, and I have a lot of questions.
And I'm really concerned what should I do? And our agent kind of came back candidly kind of cold and unsympathetic and not very empathetic and really at the level of care that we wouldn't really expect for ourselves. And so that's been really a key learning for us that this is really the moment where we say, this is why our agent is not bots, right? They're not bots. And so we want our agents to serve our customers in a way that humans would deliver that.
And that's really the power of combination of being smart, right, the big brain and then also doing that with a heart of service. So it's been a pleasure for us to really have gone through this journey. And as Madhav said, in some ways, it's hard to believe that it's been less than a year that we've been in this journey. We launched this at the very beginning of October. And so we're coming up on our 1-year anniversary. In some ways, it's been phenomenal to see that how Agentforce really scaled for an enterprise like Salesforce. I'll pass it back to Mike for Q&A.
Great. Thank you. Thank you, team, for the presentation. We're going to move to Q&A now. And we have ways that you can submit a question. One, you submit via the chat window on the webcast, or you can raise your hand and then we'll call on it. And so to get the Q&A moving as our audience gathers the questions, I'm going to pose a question that we get a lot from the investor base in everyday calls and really focused on Agentforce adoption. And so I'm going to ask Madhav and Joe to chime in on this one as both spend -- the entire audience here, the entire group here spends a lot of time with customers, but Joe and Madhav, in particular, from their angle.
What are some of the both the opportunities as well as the challenges we run into when we start getting into customers and start to walk through the process that both of you laid out as customers think about the use cases, but more importantly, as they go from pilot to production. And as we make those jumps and then think about the ramp in production, what are some of the hurdles or some of the challenges that we're working through with customers to help them get over that hump? So maybe I'll start with Madhav.
Yes, great. I think there's three major buckets of things that we work with customers on. #1, the data layer matters a lot. Without the right data, as we know, without the right structured data, without the right unstructured data, giving the right context to the agent, ensuring that the agent has access to the right data at the right time as it's executing on these things is really important. And remember, our customers are not just answering questions with these agents. They are executing on workflow. They're executing on logic. And so the type of data they have access to really matters. And so that is a really important thing.
What we advise customers to do here, though, is you don't want to take the stance of a massive data reengineering project without kind of an end in mind. So the way we work with customers is, let's think about what the use case is, what's the outcome you're trying to drive, what's the relevant data for that particular outcome and let's really optimize for that. So the data is the first thing. The second thing that's really important and it has been a huge lesson for us. Our forward deployed engineers have spent more time on this, I would say, than anything else over the last 9 months. That is bringing consistency and control to the agent. Now why is this important?
If you recall, we've lived in a world, as Anna said, of bots. And bots were really difficult because setting up a bot required an incredibly complex array of choices. They were very rigid. You had to maintain them, you had to change them, just a difficult thing for people to really do at scale in a significant way. So LLMs unlock this incredible ability to now communicate with this technology in natural language. I can give this technology instructions like I speak to someone, and it's able to execute on those instructions. That's phenomenal, right? That really expands the remit and the democratization of the people that can build these agents.
However, you still need control for structured process. And so our big insight really here is how do we ensure we bring these two things together. The flexibility, the freedom, the natural interaction layer that you get with the large language models, but the traditional Salesforce strength of process, logic that we can then integrate into these agents. We're going to have some really exciting things to talk about on this front at Dreamforce, but we've started to bring some of these capabilities in for our customers so they can retain context so they can understand what the next step is so the agent can perform consistently.
So that's #2 that I think is really, really important. And then the third one is the interface layer itself. At the end of the day, as Anna said, you are serving customers with this experience. The customer experience has to feel empathetic. It has to feel rich. Customers' expectations certainly have been driven significantly by phenomenal consumer experiences that are out there. And we want their experiences with companies to feel exactly the same.
So whether it's on the voice channel, whether it's on the text channel, how do you make sure that you're creating these rich experiences where customers are, whether they are employees internally working in Salesforce or working in Slack or its external customers that are living on a website, living in an app. We spend a lot of time really helping customers think through what's the right user experience you want to create in this agentic world, so you're creating the best experience for your cohort. But would love Joe to add with all his experience on actually bringing this technology and creating these agentic enterprises.
Thanks, Madhav. I obviously agree with everything that you said. I think it's certainly crucial. I'll take a slightly different lens on it, which is over my career, I've implemented a bunch of different technologies from a bunch of different vendors. And there are two things that are really just radically different about agents, and it's just the new normal. The first of it is it used to be that when you would try to do a pilot that most of the work was getting the pilot to work. And then transitioning to production was work, but it was actually like just chopping wood at that point. You kind of knew what you were doing.
What we're actually seeing with agentics and with Agentforce is actually getting the pilot to work is actually not as hard as that barrier was, but getting to production a lot of times is much, much harder. And it's not because the technology is harder. What it comes down to is the second point or second lens I'd like to put on to it is that while these large language models are incredibly powerful, they're also inherently nondeterministic. And so if you expect it to be right 100 out of 100, then it's going to be very, very difficult to sort of refine that. And in a pilot, you might like to say, oh, okay, well, like it's almost there.
That looks pretty good. Let's go ahead and try to take this into production. And I think that it's just the nature of the technology that is somewhat nondeterministic. Now that's where we've put a lot of effort into Agentforce is to make it more deterministic, like Madhav saying, and in some cases, make it explicitly deterministic inside of the Agentforce technology wrapper. But it's still one of those process things that I think people just have to adapt to and the industry has to adapt to is that it's different than deploying procedural code.
You can't just make a bunch of unit tests. You can't just do a bunch of things to get to production on these things. It requires a different set of tooling. I also think that's a massive opportunity that we're here to beat the challenge with, which is providing that next generation of tooling to people that actually gives you the same sort of compensating controls, but in a very different way. And so I think we're just from an industry standpoint, not there yet on the maturity curve to really see the hockey stick yet.
Like some people are seeing the hockey stick. We're seeing the hockey stick internally on certain things. But once people understand that these are a new set of tools, a new set of processes that need to get it done. And again, it's stuff that we're hopefully pioneering, we're trying to pioneer inside of Customer Zero. When we provide those things to our customers, we're going to see them. And I think it was Ravi that mentioned the 40% of business that we saw was increased utilization of things like Data Cloud.
I think those are the green shoots that you see that people that actually have got it locked in that have figured out how to do this formula, they're doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down. And so I think that bodes well for the fact that we are both on the right track, and we're really starting to see the very beginnings of that hockey stick left leap off. It will take a little bit of time just as all industry transitions take time. But I'm very excited about where we're at, and I'm very excited that the learnings that we have are improving our tooling to a point where we're just seeing customers be able to -- outside customers being able to activate faster.
Great. Thank you, Joe. Thanks, Madhav. So we've got a question that was submitted, and this is a good one. I'm going to paraphrase it a little bit because it comes up a lot in conversations, both with investors as well as with customers. But Ravi, I'm going to turn to you for this one. And really, it's about the data state that we see inside customers. And Joe and Madhav just alluded to how critical it is in helping customers get their data situated and ready for use in Agentic AI and leveraging the technology. But obviously, we've got a Zero Copy Partner Network.
A lot of the data states inside our customers are super complicated. And so whether it's us or a competitor that might be trying to integrate, can you talk a little bit about what you see inside the data states, how we help customers or what the challenges are you run into in helping customers get their data ready? And then how does that interact with the ecosystem, so the Snowflakes, the Databricks of the world, et cetera, or Data Cloud as it were. So can you help us walk through a little bit of the data state dynamic that you, see?
Yes, absolutely. I think this is an important understanding that we are going through. First of all, there are two inflection points. For most of the agents, we are seeing structured and unstructured data that has to manifest itself. Unstructured data, as you all know, is a brand-new entire ecosystem of content that everybody is trying to process and grapple with. Just this quarter alone, we had about 150% increase in the volume of activity we are doing on unstructured content. Now the challenge with unstructured content is the following. First and foremost, there is a lot of nuances here from the perspective of the type of content.
As an example, we are working with a major medical device manufacturer, and they all deal with all their unstructured data, and it's really flow charts of troubleshooting guides and so on. That's very different from a banking customer, a large one in India, where it's all about policy documents, which is all tabular in detail. And that's very different from what you might see in the context of a user manual from an auto manufacturer. These are all fundamentally different forms of data, different kinds of data that's unstructured.
And we really need a lot of important innovations to come through to really make all of them ready for a variety of different use cases that we want to light up, whether it is customer-facing use cases, employee-facing use cases and so on. The other aspect that we are also learning is while customers have a lot of important real estate in Snowflake or Databricks, a BigQuery or Redshift, we are seeing a lot of them put to action in the form of the right semantics. Unless we add the right semantic model to it, eventually, the context for the agent requires all of the structured data and the unstructured data from the entire ubiquity of the landscape to come together.
To give you an example, we have publicly talked about Fisher & Paykel. They are a very important customer of ours out of New Zealand. And the key aspect there is how do we really think about bringing personalization and web and mobile events that they're having along with all the data that they have in their back-office systems, along with all the advertising data that may come from the Google ecosystem. So how do we really bring all of this diversity of data assets together. So we see this partnership network growing rapidly.
We have asked them to announce that now we have unlocked [indiscernible] with IBM and Watson that went live last week, I think we made a public announcement about that of how our Zero Copy Network now also extends into mainframe ecosystems. Our mental model is simple. We really feel context is important. And without the right context, agents are not going to be able to make the right decisions. And in that structured and unstructured needs to be oven together, and we are going to continue to expand on this ecosystem through partnerships both on the structured and unstructured side.
A lot of this is also algorithmic. As Madhav alluded earlier, we really need to arm the LLMs with the right information with the right determinism so that they are doing the right job as well. So in many ways, the continuous growth that we are seeing in the data business is primarily fueled from the fact that people are realizing they can have many different use cases that they can light up once the data is ready to be able to take advantage of it in numerous dimensions, whether it is for analytics, with Tableau Next or whether it is for transactional C360 use cases in a call center or an agentic use case as the case maybe.
Thanks, Ravi. And I'm actually going to pull a thread on this question and ask Joe to chime in here. One of the common follow-on questions we get to Ravi, to what you just explained is there's a notion of, I'll use the term super-agent, that I think a lot of folks have a vision on. But the underpinning of a "super-agent" would imply that there is a master data lake or data warehouse or what have you that cuts across the entire enterprise data estate.
And as we all know, that is a very complicated structure. And so I'm going to ask Joe to chime in a little bit on -- from his lens on how -- what he sees inside customers, building on what you just called out, where you have different data lakes or data warehouses that sit across various functions or vendors and how he thinks about that feeding the overall AI narrative.
Yes. I think it's a great question, great point. And like Ravi said, weaving the structured and unstructured is one of those things that we're trying to get as much capability to Data Cloud as possible to simplify weaving it together. But it's also a little bit back to change of mentality. And part of the change of mentality is we used to think that we had to get everything, all the data that we had, we had to get in this big tabular network with these tables and joins and all these kinds of SQL things. And certainly, that stuff is important. But agents are actually pretty good at looking at all that stuff and bringing it together in general, like agentic technology generally is.
What they're not good at is two sets of very conflicting facts. And so when you have two different data sources that literally say exact opposite thing, the agent struggles with that. And that's where you get things that people are saying, oh, well, the agent is hallucinating. And it's like it's not actually hallucinating. It's actually just struggling like a human being would be if they looked up and got two different answers. And so I think when you think about the Uber orchestration layer, the data hygiene becomes super important, but also the state becomes super important.
And so in the same way that we don't -- not every person in a company has the exact same job, and we don't just do 1% of everybody's job, you have specialization of talent. the agents are ultimately going to be specialized and then orchestrated under something else, but they do need to share state about that customer. And so they -- I like to call it admissions, right? When multiple agents can share state about a given customer, given record, given company, whatever that agent's domain space is, when they can understand that state, then you can get to the point where you shouldn't be able to see the seams between the agents when you're starting to do handoff.
And so there's no question that there will be orchestration agents, there'll be these Uber agents that run on top of it. But none of that's going to work if you don't do the wood that we're chopping right now on the backplane of making sure that the data is consolidated. And what I'd love to do is maybe just throw it over to Andy, who's been doing a lot of this on Salesforce and was really leading the effort on help. And I think that's a good example where we had a bunch of disparate data sources. So Andy, if you wouldn't mind like talking about some of the work, we had to do to get that into shape.
Well, a perfect example is if you think about all the platforms that we have across the company and how many different variations there could be of how to reset your password, right? And so it's a perfect example of confusing the agent and also the duplicate versions of that. So thinking not just about the help example, but our internal -- we call our internal support team TechForce. And how do you reset your password for your phone, for your Linux device, for your mobile device.
And then we had different versions of those documents. And it's exactly what you said, Joe. We confused it. And connected with that, the other thing that we learned big time at the beginning, and you and Anna spoke about this some with the slide, and I'm going to always butcher it because it's -- I think of it as the heart and the head, but I think we use service and something else. What's the proper phrase that was on the slides?
It's the heart and the brain. We'll accept that, Andy.
Okay. But this whole idea, we dumped all of this information on our new latest hire, the Help.com service agent, and we didn't train it at all on the art of service, none. And so that's where, as mentioned earlier, it was lacking empathy when Anna used it right in the middle of the holidays, and it's never how we would onboard a human. So that -- like that's an example of where we learned on we didn't have enough of the right kinds of data, which is what our insights about how -- after we went live, how our customers were using the agent, we were able to see new data sources we needed to apply based off of the questions they were asking.
And we had way too much of other data, and we had to spend a lot of time cleaning our data repositories. And then one thing we always encourage our customers to think about is the team that's onboarding the agent that this agent is going to be a part of, how would you onboard a human? And we just did this with the SDR agent. Joe, you showed some bogus data but talked about some real results. And we gave that agent the heart of the seller, which is what we learned from our experience on Help.com. So it shows persistence and it's hungry and it's going after the sale. It still has empathy, but those are some of the things we've learned and some of the pieces of too much data and not enough of the right data. Thanks for asking.
And that's actually a good segue to the next question, and it's actually going to go to Anna and Andy here. When you think about our own journey that we've been on with customer support, a lot of times, if I weave it against a conversation, and I'm paraphrasing the question that was submitted, but if I weave it against, what adoption curves look like for our customers. Can you give a little bit of insight into the journey that we went on from initial pilot through the -- getting through to full production?
And I think the detail, I think, would be super helpful for this audience to understand is at each kind of gate, if you will, that we jump through as you ramp across channels, as you look at success factors, can you walk us through what that journey looks like? Because I think it's very appropriate and similar to a lot of what our customers go through, similar to the conversation that we've been having here. Maybe, Anna, start with you.
Yes, I'll start. Thanks, Mike. That's a really great question. It's a conversation that we have quite often with our customers on what to expect. And naturally, when we -- our customers are implementing Agentforce, there's this expectation of here's my case volume, and I expect when Agentforce is working that, that case volume comes down. And the big learnings for us, I would say, in the first 3 months has been that we actually really didn't see that. We actually saw an increase in case volume. And what we've learned were really two things. One is our customers have multiple channels to contact us, right? They can create a case via web, they can chat with us, they can call us.
There're multiple ways to go do this. And when we approach this, obviously, we want to make sure the glass radius is really contained so we can implement, we can learn and then we can fix what we've learned. And so when you do that, what happens is our customers -- what we find is our customers are still skeptical. And so we find that our customers are going to other channels. That's been sort of like one learning. The other learning has been really this positive experience that our customers are engaging. So as Agentforce is proving to be helpful that our customers didn't necessarily -- our customers who engage ask more questions, maybe more questions they would have asked to a human.
So I think really a couple of things what we've learned is we really didn't see this sort of like deep drop-off in case volume as we had expected, which would be sort of intuitive. And so there are some behavioral transitions here for our customers. And also, we've talked a lot about this, right? Agents are not bots. But when we went down this journey, there's really still some skepticism. And certainly, we didn't do ourselves any favors when we didn't really train our agent to be human.
And so that was kind of really big learnings, we saw really, I would say, the unlock after about 6 months and 9 months. And so as you saw earlier, Joe presented this, is that we're at 1.5 million customer requests with amazing resolution and satisfaction. And so I would say the first 6 months of learning is steep. And then after that, once you sort of win over sort of our customer trust and confidence, we start to really see that drop off. Anything else you want to add to that? Andy has been my partner in crime for the last 10 months here.
Yes. I think there was the other aspect of that, Anna, wasn't just like thinking about all the things you talked about, it was also different ways of working for us because we had to start thinking and working differently across our customer support team and the IT organization of how we went after this problem and breaking down barriers that existed before that were now no longer relevant from a technology or organizational perspective. And we've continued to see that now of thinking things differently.
Well, this used to happen over here in this part of the organization, but it's really not relevant to our customers and trying to think about what is the customer journey and how are we meeting them where they're at. And that took us some time, too, because it's really just different. And all of a sudden like, well, wait a minute, we could solve this problem with Agentforce. It's something we could never do before, surfacing up more information or accessing a third-party system or answering a customer's question about the renewal, which is not necessarily something that customers had asked before. And to your point, the barrier had been lowered of what customers were asking.
So we saw a variety of new things that we don't see when they're engaging with human support engineers. So tons of learning and also learning where we needed to pay attention. Joe talked before about instrumentation and really baselining what does those look like that our human counterparts are doing. And so we had to implement that. Your team was actually better than a lot because you've already done so much baseline and metricing, but there's been new insights that we've learned from that as well on the journey.
But Mike, I really think depending on the level of complexity, there is a 6-month baseline that you're putting in place that you then have the opportunity to scale. And there's the other aspect on customer-facing and internal facing where you're changing behavior, one key thing that Anna's team has done is taking away other avenues of doing things. And I think that's so important, whether that's external customers or internal, like I don't think agents are necessarily always best when they're additive. You should really be removing complexity and removing optionality out of the system.
And the example I would give you about this is a lot of our customers have bookmarked a case submission form. And so we have, over time, removed the ability for different types of customers to access that form directly because Agentforce can solve their problem that would otherwise be routed to a customer support engineer. And so part of this is really talking about changing behavior. And like Anna said, showing, no, we have a better experience that we can provide for you, don't submit that case, that's some of the things that come to mind.
Perfect. I love the example you just -- you left there with, Andy, because I talk about it with investors all the time. The moment of truth, I can go -- if I go back 6 months, I can remember like it was yesterday, the moment of truth was when we decided to remove the button, the contact us button on the website, and there was a lot of nervous energy in the room when we decided to do that. So okay, we're getting some more questions in here now.
And so we're going to turn a little bit more towards the -- some external customer examples, and I'll give this one to Madhav here and others can chime in. But can you give us -- Joe put up a good slide earlier that looked at different use cases across the enterprise and how we think about Agentic Enterprise. Can you walk through an example or two of customers that we're seeing today that we're actively working with that maybe started small and are starting to expand and what that looks like?
Yes, absolutely. I touched on a couple before, but they're worth kind of reemphasizing. So the pattern that we see with customers is very common. And by the way, this was true for us at Salesforce as well. And Joe and his team have done a great job of really focusing our energy around canonical use cases we want to prove out while we run a lot of horizontal experiments, trying a lot of things, and you saw the slide of the things that we've done. But two customers really come to mind that I think have really exemplified this. One is Indeed, as I said, they have such a clear North Star KPI and any experience that they're doing really ties to that particular KPI.
So this is not just kind of agents for the sake of agents. This is really very specific. They started out with, I would say, a pretty complex use case, make their actual candidate process better. They've got millions of candidates now. Our agent now is in front of a very large percentage of those candidates, so interacting with them all the time, started out with, hey -- simple questions. These are the companies I'm interested in, what can I look at? I need have to schedule something, basic business process flow in the candidate experience. That's kind of what they started with. Then they said, hey, if we're going to go do this now, we want to also make the humans better.
So the actual humans and their operations teams as they're interacting with candidates, how do we make them more productive by giving them better information about all of this rich interaction that the candidate just had with the agent. Let's actually make the humans better up to speed on when they are now going to interact eventually with that candidate further down the road. How do we give them the best data, the best preparation. So they're really tailoring and personalizing that experience for each candidate. And so the overall candidate experience gets better. So that's an internal use case that faces their employees.
And now they're experimenting with saying, hey, very often in our workflow, many departments in our company are involved. We already collaborate and coordinate on Slack. How about we ensure that the agents are surfaced on Slack as well. So we can actually make sure we're getting all that contextual information. We can make the agent more productive, make the swarm effectively more productive with these agents helping us.
So that's a good example of a customer that you can just see, you start with a customer-facing experience, you then think about how do I now, as I'm handing off to humans, make the humans more productive and you think about in a collaborative orchestrated system with both humans and agents, how do you make them productive. So that's a really good one. The second one that I love is Williams-Sonoma. Williams-Sonoma has an incredible bar for their customer experience. So when you think about buying something from Williams-Sonoma as a company and all the brands that are underneath them, they really have the customer experience in mind at every point of the journey.
So their journey has really been, as I said earlier, both kind of vertical and horizontal. So what does vertical mean? Vertical means let's start with simple business process workflow. where is my order? How do I get an order update? How do I cancel something? These are simple tasks that the agent can start to perform, and you have reliability and consistency in the agent performance. Then within that use case, they started adding more things. Oh, can I get product recommendations? Can I think about what a customer might want next? Can I start to tie it into the marketing and the sales journeys in some ways?
And so you build depth in that agent experience. At the same time, they also have a lot of different businesses and a lot of different properties with fairly unique needs. So they've now taken this agentic experience horizontal across multiple different departments in the company that all have certain different versions of it, but all tied to the single vision for what the customer experience could be. So you see customers with that pattern as well, make a single agent more complex or start to make the experience more horizontal across different sub-businesses, different properties.
Great. Thanks. This next question is, I really like this next question from Hannah. And Joe, I'm going to ask you to answer it, but I won't read the whole thing. But the question basically revolves around inside our customers. And Marc mentioned on the call, overestimation 1 year, underestimate 5 years. And I think AI kind of squarely falls into that camp.
Can you talk a little bit about embedded in the behaviors and what Madhav was just referring to, what you're seeing in customers and what you feel like are the, let's call them, the major milestones, even though it will vary by customer, but the milestones that kind of you expect to see and what you're hearing from customers over the next, call it, what we're seeing now versus what you expect to happen 12 months from now, et cetera, that will help us increase velocity, if you will, of deployment Agentforce and Data Cloud deployment.
Yes. I think it's a great question. I'll give an analogy that I think is helpful. It's sort of like self-driving cars. The first time -- like I had a Tesla Model S, and I remember I had the hardware for it and then I got in the beta and then the update came. And the first time that I was driving the car, it's like I went around the curve on the Expressway, like I remember my hands were like just air gapping, but huddling over that wheel just so like is this thing actually going to work? Is it really going to make the turn? Oh, I got to make the turn. And now I think about it, I get on the Expressway and like putting on Autosteer to get on the Expressway and drive for a while, I don't even think about it. It just happens.
It's like one of those things that I've just become accustomed to. And then when it does something weird, you're surprised. You're like, well, why did it do that weird thing? So I think that's a good proxy for agents, whereas initially, people are very concerned. Is this agent going to say something weird? Is it going to like really mess up my customer support CSAT? Is it going to do these types of things? And I think Andy's time line is right. We're looking to compress it as much as possible. So maybe for most people it would have been 12 months, now it's 6. If it's 6 for us, can we make it 4 or 3 for our customer. And I think that's the type of thing that we're constantly like working on.
But after that, then customers get more confidence in what it's doing, they just start to layer on more and more and more complexity to it. And it just becomes one of those things that's just part of the fabric of it. And Slack was mentioned earlier. And I think Slack is just -- I really do think to some degree in this space, especially, it's one of Salesforce's secret weapons because when you really are used to interacting with Slack, agentics, the sort of like way in which you parcel small amounts of information back and forth and get answers and things like that is on exactly what agents are great at.
And so what we see internally, for example, is when people use agentics -- use an agentic agent, when they use it on a sort of much more robust interface like one of our Lightning experiences in the cloud and they use it in Slack, the sum of that is much larger than a person that uses each one of those modalities independently. And so I think what it shows is, again, the sum is greater than the parts when we get there, where people are going to start. They're going to be in this like soft simmer and then the boil comes and then they really start to double down and then you really start to see this hockey stick escalation and usage. And that's sort of what we're seeing.
Like it took us -- Andy, keep me honest on this, but it took us something like probably 7 months to get to 1 million conversations in help. And then it feels like the last 0.5 million has gone like that. It's like 3 months and now it's like we've added 50% to that number. And I think that's because for two reasons, customers have gotten more comfortable with it. Our customers have gotten more comfortable with it. But it's also one of those things where we've gotten more comfortable with it. And so things like removing the submit form entry is a good example of like we've removed it because we genuinely think it's better at this point.
We think it's got a higher probability of helping a customer. And so I think everybody is going to go along their march, depending on the sort of data fluency and the data work that customers have already done to the data lake and aggregating their data and things like that, it could be shorter or longer. That's why Data Cloud and what Ravi talked about with Zero Copy is so important. For customers that have been spending time for the last 5, 6 years building a data lake and getting the data in one spot or in a federated array of spots, it's like congratulations. You were right. You were 100% directionally relied about what you had to do with your data strategy.
Now you actually have something to do with it beyond just mine it for insights. You could actually put it to work and action that data in a real way that's impacting the business day in and day out. And so I think depending on where you are on your journey, you're going to see more or less acceleration from the companies depending on where they come from. But there's 0 question in my mind that everybody that we talk about that really gets that use case gets it nailed. It's just they're doubling down because they get confidence in it. It's just like the self-driving car, you get confidence in it, you use it more.
Great. Thanks, Joe. This next one, Ravi, I'm going to throw this one to you. Marc on the call on Wednesday referenced our data platform is the way you referred to it, talking about Data Cloud, MuleSoft and now, of course, Informatica coming into the fold, hopefully shortly. And can you talk a little bit about how you guys collectively in the data organization think about the collection of those assets where they overlap, where they reinforce each other, especially as we fit Informatica into the family?
Yes, absolutely. I think we recognize the plethora of complexity that exists. To give you an example, we have customers who have on-prem data. They do definitely have some cloud warehouses in the mix, and they also have applications, too, like a back-end ERP system. And of course, they also have Salesforce. And they want to do analytics use case, they want to do transactional use case, they want to do agentic use case. You really see there are different tools that we need to bring to bear so that we get the line of sight from each one of them.
As an example, with Informatica, we believe strongly that we will have a much easier line of sight to all the on-prem assets and infrastructure that matters the most, particularly in the back-office systems. Similarly, Mule, as example, is a great asset when we see lots of customers integrate with their existing application ecosystem that they might have, whether it's SAP or something else that is relevant to them. Now with the investments that we have made deeply within Data Cloud itself, we are now able to advance quite a bit in terms of having 270-plus native connectors to technologies that might be available with the line of sight directly on the website -- sorry, on the internet on any of the hyperscalers.
They could be an Azure or Google or AWS ecosystem. And the confluence of all of this is really to understand the customer data, understand the semantics. We believe strongly in data fluidity. It's not going to be one solution, as Joe alluded to, even in SiriusXM, there are so much differences that exists, same in Salesforce ourselves. We think that the more we do to provide bridges and make the data fluid, the better off we are in being able to actually curate the understanding, drive the right semantics and then be able to activate it with the right context in different places. Another dimension to this is governance and security.
I think this is another paramount important aspect that we think is going to become more at play as you have a world of multiple agents, both within the enterprise and across the enterprise that needs to collaborate. And how do we really provide the right level of granular security and access control so that just like humans, you really need to guard the information these agents are going to consume and how do we really build that logical layer across the stack is also equally important.
So we see all these assets coming to bear in the context of the maturity of the data platform, as Marc alluded to in the form of having good governance, security, catalog, lineage, all of the conversations that we have had with being able to reach into the on-prem and on the cloud across the cloud vendors and applications. So in many ways, the big shift here is it's not so much a data center of gravity where the data needs to be in one place. It's more about fluidity and how do we still give all the semantics that is required for all the mature features that are required for agents.
Great. Thank you, Ravi. We've got time. I'm going to shoehorn one more question in here because I like it, and we get a lot from investors. I'm going to hand it to Madhav, but how do we think about from a product offering standpoint, vertical-specific use cases. We've obviously led that charge on the SaaS side of the business with our industry solutions, but it comes up a lot in terms of how do we help our health care or financial service customers, et cetera, ramp fast on Agentforce. So maybe you can talk about that.
Yes, I would love to. We've got very industry-specific business processes and logic in Salesforce for a long time, invested in this in our industry apps. And Ravi just said something that's really important. Our strategy ultimately is about using that data fluidity to drive action gravity. That's really where Salesforce shines is that customers are able to execute on their work on Salesforce products. And I think there are no better indicators of those products than our industry applications. So these are applications built with very specific industry ontology, in health care, in financial services, where the business process is aligned to what business process is in that particular industry.
And now you imagine in an agent world, you've got this kind of connected data, you've got business process and flow for those specific industries, and now you're surfacing up all of that to the agent. And so our belief is that, that's going to be among the most powerful use cases. Now our industry teams have taken this one step further and have now come out in the last month with 200-plus templates that customers can get started with in any industry. Oh, you have an agent that's specific to billing, great, you can actually -- you can build that. You have an agent specific to a health record update, fantastic, you can actually go do that right now.
So to help customers get started on that journey, these templates are very helpful, very useful. But our customers have built a lot of incredible logic on these applications. I mean, Banco Ripley was one of the customers that I skipped over in the slide, that's incredible. They're a customer that uses our applications but have now scaled to a significant extent in a customer-facing scenario because they're able to leverage all this business process and logic in the way they've implemented their technology. So we think the verticals are really important. We actually think that the agentic use cases, especially at the value layer are really tied to those vertical outcomes. So a significant area of investment for the product organization.
Great. Thanks, Madhav. I want to thank all the leaders for joining me today. It's -- I really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you all for tuning in. As always, we'd love your feedback. We'd also love to hear your ideas on future sessions that you'd like to hear about. We'll continue to do these as long as our investor base and our analyst base sees value in them. So please let the ideas fly and give us any feedback or further questions you might have. So thank you, everyone, for joining.
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📣 Kernbotschaft
- Zentrale Aussage: Salesforce positioniert Agentforce plus Data Cloud als Kern für die "Agentic Enterprise"-Transformation: Agenten sollen Routineaufgaben automatisieren, Menschen ergänzen und über Consumption‑Modelle wiederkehrende Umsätze erzeugen. Customer Zero (Salesforce als eigener Kunde) dient als Test‑ und Validierungsbasis.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Produktstrategie: Agentforce kombiniert natural language‑Interaktion mit kontrollierbaren Geschäftsprozessen; Fokus auf Determinismus und Beobachtbarkeit (Test/Observability/Analytics).
- Datenfokus: Data Cloud + Zero Copy als Rückgrat: strukturierte und unstrukturierte Daten zusammenführen, semantische Schichten und native Konnektoren für Aktivierung.
- GTM & Adoption: Mix aus Employee‑ und Consumption‑SKUs (Conversation, Flex Credits); Partner‑ und Trainingsprogramme (Agentblazer) zur Beschleunigung.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Adoptionssignale: Produktstart vor ~9 Monaten; Flex Credits gut angenommen; Data Cloud Zero Copy ~30% des Datenverkehrs laut Präsentation.
- Erste Geschäftswerte: Interne Sales‑Agent erzeugte ~$1.5M Pipeline; Help‑Use‑Cases mit hoher Deflection (Beispiel 77%) und schnelle Erweiterung von Pilot zu Expansion.
- Roadmap‑Hinweis: Verbesserte Kontrolle/Testing‑Funktionen und zahlreiche Vorlagen (200+) für Branchen‑Agenten; weitere Ankündigungen bei Dreamforce angekündigt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Pilot → Produktion: Hauptkritik: Pilots sind leichter als skalierte Produktion; Hürden sind Datenqualität, State‑Management und nicht‑deterministisches Verhalten großer Sprachmodelle (large language models, LLMs).
- Datenintegration: Nachfrage nach Klarheit über Multi‑cloud, Snowflake/Databricks‑Ecosystem und Rolle von MuleSoft/Informatica; Data‑Fluidity statt single data lake betont.
- Messgrößen & Timing: Investoren fragten nach KPI‑Meilensteinen (Case‑Volumen, Deflection, ACV‑Expansion) und erwarteten Zeitrahmen für breitere Adoption (6–12 Monate als praxisnahe Orientierung).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call liefert operative Details statt neue Guidance: erste Nutzungs‑ und Kundenbelege zeigen Skalierbarkeitspotenzial für wiederkehrende, konsumptionsbasierte Umsätze. Hauptrisiken bleiben Daten‑/Integrationsaufwand und die technische Herausforderung, LLM‑Flexibilität in deterministische Geschäftsprozesse zu zwingen. Kurzfristig: heavy investment & execution; mittelfristig: bedeutendes Upside bei breiterer Adoption.
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1. Management Discussion
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And so speakers today. So I'm going to be taking you through a bit of a deck and a demo today. My name is Martin Priest. I'm an industry adviser for the retail vertical here at Salesforce. And then joining us for a fireside chat after the demo is Cheryl Cochran, our Sales Leader for Retail Cloud; and Chad Best, the SVP of Customer Experience and Operations at Lovesac.
And with that, let's dive into the introduction of Retail Cloud. And what better introduction than let's take 30, 40 seconds to watch this video into a glimpse of Retail Cloud.
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Well, I hope that got you excited because I know it still gets me excited every time I see that video. It's cool to have our own commercial.
So let's talk a little bit about sort of the evolution of Retail Cloud with modern point of sale. And we're not going to go through the entire time line here, going back to 1879. But I do think it's fun to think about the fact that the original retail technology was the point of sale, the first thing that ever actually sort of was in the store from a technology perspective was, in fact, the point of sale going back to the turn of the century. But obviously, times have changed, things have evolved.
And PredictSpring, which is the platform and the company that is now Retail Cloud, was founded in 2013 by one of the founders of Google Shopping, who sort of saw this need to disrupt how we deliver the in-store experience and how there weren't platforms that did that. And being from 2013, the platform is young enough to be modern, to be cloud-based, right, to be scalable to have sort of all the modern architecture principles, but it's also old enough to have like a great customer list to be tri tested and true to be proven. So it's sort of like perfect balancing point of sort of age and youth together.
And then if you fast forward to October of last year, Salesforce acquired PredictSpring, now Retail Cloud. We're going to talk about what that looks like today, both our platform and inside Salesforce. And of course, what we're looking to in the future is what comes next with the agentic point of sale, the agentic in-store experience and what it means to basically augment humans and people in-store.
And let's talk a little bit about the customers that we work with today. So we're really proud to partner with some of the world's leading retailers. And now that we're part of the Salesforce family, we're excited to offer a fully unified experience to these customers as well. And what you can see here on the logo slide is that we support a wide range of verticals inside the retail space, so from like apparel and footwear to health, wellness and beauty, home furnishings, luxuries and wineries and alcohol sales.
And if you think about all of these customers, they're all specialty retail, but they're all different. They all have unique brands. They have unique customer experiences they want to deliver. And we're able to do that on the one platform, which we'll get into the details of. But think of it as this one solution that's being built, that's this composable LEGO box block type solution that each one of our customers can take and put together in the way that they need to support their business and all through a no-code back-end system. So each one of these customers deploys their version of our solution to meet sort of their brand standards, their customer experience, and then they're able to change that over time. And so that's across all those different verticals and in all different businesses.
And why is this important? Why have so many customers chosen to sort of upgrade their in-store solution? Why is it now? And the role of the associate has changed a lot in the last 5 years, maybe 10, but definitely in the last 5 years. And what's happened is that customer expectations have grown rapidly. And so the role of the associate and the store itself has changed a lot, sort of like we have all of these different channels that consumers can shop with us through, and they're choosing those channels for different reasons. And so they're coming into the store with different expectations and then those expectations are coming on to the associate and the store team in order to meet those expectations of the customer.
So you now have associates that are not just sort of doing the standard transacting in the store, right, but they're doing things like clienteling. They need to understand sort of the full breadth of promotions and see product availability. They need to manage the store inventory. They need to do order fulfillment. Stores are being used as DCs now, right? They need to have access to the entire product catalog so they can understand not just the products, but the details, imagery, descriptions, even care instructions and things like that.
And then even aspects of things like social influencing. That store associate now is doing more things than ever. And what's happening is there's been a huge impact to sort of the productivity because the tool sets that they've been given to meet these customer expectations and deliver this experience are sort of just they were never built for it. They've all been kind of cobbled together. And the store associate is kind of the glue that's trying to make all of this work and deliver that experience. And to that, our research has shown us that associates are spending just shy of 75% of their time on non-checkout-related activities. So imagine your store team is spending 3/4 of its time on basically just running the store as opposed to servicing customers and checking out.
And so now is the time to displace that legacy point of sale, right? That legacy point of sale was often just built for the transacting part, not for all those other components. And a lot of other solutions may have come into the store, but a lot of it is already separate solutions, separate applications. There's a lot of manual tasks like they need to know shortcuts, how to do workarounds, going on even different devices like hardware, like maybe to a PC somewhere in the back of the store to a device over here to a point of sale. So there's so much going on inside the store for that store associate. The tools they have aren't really meeting the needs. They're not seamless and easy.
You have these long implementation times. And even if the implementation is done, the upgrade path can be months alone to make changes, right? These disjointed systems, because they were never really built for this, don't really come together. They might sort of meet the needs from a check-box perspective, but not in a seamless integrated way, right? And then, of course, a lot of these solutions are on-prem. So a lot of them are on-prem, not built for scale, not scalable, not built from a unified architecture perspective.
And of course, this is where a modern point-of-sale solution comes in. It's built for all of these components. It's built to have a modern architecture in real time. It's designed to support use cases like buy online, pick up in store; buy online, return in store; not afterthoughts that were brought in later or being done on a separate application, right? It's built on a composable headless UI, allowing you to build that experience that's right for your brand, and it allows for the adoption of AI into that store experience.
And so I'm very proud to introduce Retail Cloud with modern point of sale. This is Salesforce's newest Industry Cloud, and it's built on the world's #1 AI CRM platform. So with Retail Cloud, you're going to be able to unite transactions from anywhere. So we have a lot of integrations into the Salesforce ecosystem, allowing you to have one customer profile, one order record as well as a patented off-line mode, allowing the system to operate even when connectivity is disrupted inside the store. You're going to be arming your associates with a mobile-first solution, allowing them to get out from behind that cash wrap, be able to interact with customers on the sales floor through line busting in peak seasons and clienteling and all of those components.
They're going to have real-time shopper information so now the associate can actually move at the speed of the customer and actually see details on the customer, have a personalized conversation with them and doing all of this very seamlessly on one solution. And then, of course, we enable all of this through that architecture layer and this no-code CMS so that we have market-leading time to market and deployment and the ability to change the platform over time. And so we want to arm your associates with technology that enables them, not technology for technology's sake, not technology that gets in between the associate and the customer, but that technology that really allows the associate to do their job and do it well.
And so we talked about a mobile-first solution. On the left-hand side, we can support a fully fixed point of sale. You can think of this as that standard cash wrap experience wired into all of your peripherals to a fully mobile solution on like any iOS device and form factor, doing things like mobile point of sale and line busting, as well as things like endless aisle, self-checkout, kiosk, and then inventory management and operations. And we'll go more into this in the demo, but the idea is that it's one platform that enables you to deploy a point-of-sale solution, a modern point-of-sale solution, really one platform to operate the entire store end-to-end in any form factor with no limitations from a technology standpoint.
And the setup is easy and the configuration is straightforward. We have a lot of integrations in Salesforce, as I mentioned. We have the headless CMS and UI. So the back end of the platform is a natively integrated CMS with templates for all of the use cases. So you can take those and edit those, build those out for your brand standards; as well as off-line mode, allowing the platform to function with no connectivity whatsoever, keeping all those core POS functions. We like to say, even without electricity, you could still transact with our point of sale in your store.
And then from a scalability perspective, and the platform just went GA a week ago, is that Retail Cloud is now sitting on Hyperforce, which is Salesforce's proprietary scalability and security layer built on top of AWS and Google platform. So the platform is now sitting on a massive global scalable platform. So when it comes to in-store redundancy, resiliency and performance, the platform is built for [ scale ].
And we continue to innovate on top of the platform. And so I just wanted to highlight just a few areas where we're going deeper into things like inventory reporting, so giving stores basically capabilities really deep into managing the 4 walls of their store. We're integrating into loyalty management with Salesforce. So by the summer, you will be able to have a completely unified loyalty platform with Salesforce, allowing a completely seamless experience from online app and in-store across all of that for your customer, meaning it doesn't matter what channel they're going to shop anymore, they're now just shopping the brand, having a consistent experience.
And then finally, on the right-hand side, things like order servicing. This is now going to allow your in-store team to actually do order servicing in the store. Customer comes in, wants to look up an order, modify it. So bringing sort of that world of sales and service together. And these are just some highlights of what's coming on the platform. I wanted to kind of touch on them from both a customer experience perspective, order servicing and sort of the innovation that's going to the platform and how we're going to meet the needs of that modern retail.
And then Salesforce is uniquely positioned from a unified commerce perspective. So now with Retail Cloud, Commerce Cloud and OMS, we have the backbone of unified commerce sitting inside Salesforce. And on the left-hand side, Salesforce also has a platform that can support the entire life cycle of a customer through acquisition, engagement, personalization, transacting servicing, loyalty and then, of course, insights and segmentation to data cloud. So the entire retail life cycle is supported here on Salesforce and 100% of your retail data can now flow through this entire life cycle with the addition of Retail Cloud and bringing stores into that picture.
And of course, just to finish this off on the slides, this also brings that unified retail commerce platform into the bigger picture of the Salesforce platform and Agentforce. And so now with Agentforce, we're bringing humans and agents together, so augmenting humans with AI. And we're now bringing this platform into that scope. As I mentioned on that earlier slide, we're now bringing Agentforce into the point of sale. And so you're now not just going to have a unified commerce experience with a unified authentic experience. And that also includes the back end, things like servicing, we'll use order servicing as an example, where you can now have agents that have instantaneous out-of-the-box visibility to customers and customer orders and able to service the customer across channels. And that is all native out of the boxes.
And now with that, I'm going to take us over to a demo, so we can see the product. And we're going to spend maybe about 10, 15 minutes here on the demo. And everyone, do you see my screen? I think so.
So what I have here is I have an iPad on my desk right here in front of me, and this is a production version of our platform. So you are seeing the same version of the platform that our customers are using today. And the logo in the top middle of Northern Trail Outfitters, this is just a fictitious brand that we've built a demonstration for. And so this is an apparel brand. I'm going to just take you through a high level of it today.
One thing, just to mention, to the left of that logo, I'm signed in here as a store associate. And we won't have a chance to see the back end today, so I'll just use this as a way to comment on the fact that not only is the front end flexible and CMS-driven, but you can have different POS types off of the same back end for things like an outlet store, a standard store, a pop-up store, but also by different roles. So you can actually have a different look and feel for, say, a manager or a sales associate or a stock associate, for example. In this case, we're signing as a standard store associate. But that level of flexibility is not just for one UI, it's for an endless number of UIs that you have full control over.
And so I'm on a home page here for a sales associate. And if you look along the bottom, we have these little widgets that we often refer to as themes. Everything you see here is CMS-driven. So every image, all the text, the themes along the bottom are all under your control through the back end, through the no-code CMS. And so on my homepage here, I have some CTAs that would be common use cases for a sales associate, so diving into things like product or customer search, looking at my Associate 360, so seeing my KPIs. And these are all natively built into the platform as well as things like checkout and pickup.
And I'm just going to swipe through just to sort of show you some of the different themes. So here, I have my POS theme where I have some CTs a little bit more dialed into traditional point of sale. And like, on the bottom right, just to like cash flow, so modern mobile solution that we have all of the core capabilities that you need for point of sale. So all of the cash oversight, reconciliation, safe management, all of the core operations are here inside the platform as well. So it's really a solution that's designed to allow you to operate your entire store end-to-end.
On the left, on the returns exchanges, I'm just going to click on this because I love to show this because in this flow for returns exchanges, we just have one field here for order number, not what's your online order number or your in-store order number or your receipt number. It's just one field that the store associate needs to input that number. To the right, there's a little barcode icon. I can use a hand scanner or the camera on the device to scan a barcode on a receipt off of an e-mail to pull up that transaction as well.
So I'd love to use this as just a simple example about what modern really means. And sort of like modern is also about usability in UX and how we've built a solution that's meant to really simplify things for the store associate and then ultimately for the customer. So in this case, it's not about where did your order come from. It's just freight, what order your number, let me type it in here. Let's pull that up and then start to take the next step customer.
And then over on to the next theme, we have clienteling. So we have a 360 view of the customer that we'll come back and look at shortly, signing up the customer, digitization of some clienteling staples like black books, collections as well as task management. And then the quiz, and I'm going to click on the quiz here, too, because this is another feature I particularly really love. I'd love to show this quiz that we have because the same CMS that's used to build the standard layouts is really powerful, and it's actually included in a complete form builder, and they can even do really complex use cases like this quiz builder you're seeing in front of you. And this is all driven through a no-code CMS.
And the reason why I really like it is because we live in an age of being able to collect a lot of implicit data on a customer. They clicked on this. They did this. They took that action. And we can collect a lot of that information on the customer. But we're not so great at collecting explicit data on a customer. And sometimes you might see sort of quizzes online, but now we can bring that kind of capability in-store as well. So you can actually have a conversation with the customer, collecting information about them, which we're then going to structure, attach back to their customer profile, which you can feed back into things like CDP to better segment and target that customer later. You can also have a team that might fill this out post the customer interaction. But the idea is that all of this is available inside one platform under one architecture.
And then, of course, we have the endless aisle. And so this is where your entire product catalog is going to be easily accessible and visible to the associate. This will allow them to go basically through your merchandising. And what we're going to do is take the same type of product that you have for your e-com platform, bring it into the point of sale with that level of complexity, that level of taxonomy, metadata, attribution. As a modern platform, we're designed to ingest that type of product and then build out the merchandising within this platform based on your standards. And it could be a match online, you could differentiate it in-store. But the idea is that you have the flexibility to be consistent or to change it maybe over time as you learn.
And then there's a full inventory management solution in the platform as well, so everything that you need from receiving products annually, inventory overview, purchase order creation, transfers, adjustments and a full cycle capability. And what we're trying to do is take what is often 4, 5, 6, we've seen upwards of 10, different applications in a store into one platform, into one login and one consistent UI for the store team.
And then finally, here at the end, we also have the order management feature. And so this is where that store that's turning into that DC point now has that ability to take orders that are flowing in from like buy online, pick up in store or buy on store, pick up in another store or fulfill from store and manage that queue and order life cycle through the same application.
So at the top here, I'm just going to click through into the store pickup orders and just kind of show you how, again, it's highly visual, that order will come in, the store gets notified. They can then go out, I'll pick the second order here. They can confirm that inventory, save, send an order status update back to OMS, informing the customer that the order is picked and now ready to be picked up. And then skip ahead, customer comes into the store, we can pick that item, see the visuals of the items, have the customer signed directly on the device. So this could be curbside, in the store, fixed point-of-sale or mobile point of sale and complete that transaction just easily and seamlessly, both operationally for the store and then for the customer as well when they come to pick it up.
And I'm just going to finish us off here with a transaction, so we can sort of see that flow. So I've got a hand scanner here in front of me. So I'm also just going to hand scan a couple of items into the cart and just kind of show that really traditional point-of-sale feel. I can scan items in. I'd love to do this on a random page, like the order page that we were just on, because you're never interrupted from that cell, right? Like, you don't have to go back, you don't have to click through. You can just start scanning in items, add them to the cart, so you're able to basically pick up with the customer wherever they are.
I can go into my cart here to start my checkout, ask the customer if they found everything they were looking for today. They said almost. They're looking for one item that they saw online, but they couldn't find it in store. And we say, "Hey, no problem. We're going to go right back to that endless aisle catalog where I can dive into the merchandising so I can look into women's. We can browse through the products together, visual, see all the descriptions, see all of the prices." In the top right, I can even drill down using my product attributes to filter on this based on the customer's input.
But of course, being founded by someone from Google, site search plays a big role in the platform. And so we have a really powerful native site search in the platform. So if I click into the bar at the top here, I can also just start typing in -- the customer saw an item online. Maybe they might have the SKU, maybe they have the product ID, maybe they don't. But what we can just do here is just start typing. I'm going to type really slowly, and I'm just going to start typing blue and then continue with jackets. Every time that wheel spins, that is a real-time search happening into the product catalog, pulling back all the results that match that search term.
And I love to do like just blue jackets. It's a simple search term, but it's actually defaulting to the blue imagery. So you also don't have to click through into each item like, well, let's see the blue of it. It will default to the color that you're searching for. It will use the attributes that you want to use. And this is a native site search built in the platform. And it's a single search field where you can search for a product ID, for a GTIN or blue jackets or anything like that. So it's one field for the store team to use. They don't have to worry about different search fields for different use cases, one field pulling back real-time results. You don't have to hit search. You don't have to wait for the results to come back. It's going to predictively update those results and then display them based on the attributes that you've entered.
And then I can click through on to my product where I can drive on to the product page where we have a full image carousel, so I can look at the products in detail. I can pinch it, zoom and look at the details with the customer. And then I can scroll down here. I can click on to different variants, so we can see the full color availabilities. And then below that, I can also see my size availability here as well. So I have complete visibility into not just this product, but its entire colorways, all of its size runs.
And then below the pickers, and I'll move it to the center of the screen, I can even see real-time availability in my store. And so you can see the small, if I click on to that, I can see it's unavailable, but I've got medium, large and XL. If I click on the all stores inventory overview, I can also see real-time inventory for all store locations, starting with the closest. So I can look at that inventory, see what's available for the customer if they need it immediately, but it's out of stock in my store, and then we can do a transaction to pick it up in the other store. I can even see information like on hand versus allocated to an order, things like in transit, so I can actually see a very detailed view of inventory. And you can choose what to show in your UI based on your SOPs. But the idea is we have that level of granularity that we can expose.
And then below that, I can see my full product details. And then we also have a product recommendations carousel here at the bottom. And this can utilize the AI recommendations tool within Salesforce, so you can drive that online and in-store for consistency, as well as you can have multiple uses of these carousels. So you can have complete the look, customers ultimately purchase. So ultimately, you can drive the recommendations using one singular tool and do it in a lot of different ways inside the store to assist that sales associate from that upsell, cross-sell capability.
But what I'm just going to do here is I'm going to flip this item to ship to address because now that I have seen the availability -- let's go to the small actually because that's out of stock. So now that I've seen availability and I know that I don't have this item in my store, I can see the network availability. I know that this item is available to ship. So I can easily flip this to ship to address or I can flip this to store pickup from that store list that I saw. We're going to click the ship to address here. I'm going to add this item to my cart, and I'm going to check out.
So now we've added that third jacket there that, that customer was looking for but couldn't find in the store today. So now we have what we call this mixed cart. And so now you can basically take any permutation of products and fulfillment options and bring them into one cart for the customer. And on the red shoes in the middle, I'm even going to flip those over to store pickup here. And inside the cart, I can manage this as well. So here, I can even jump to another view of those stores, I can find it, I can select pick up from that top store.
So I also just want to show how now I have one item at the top here, a jacket that's in the store, these are runners that we're going to pick up at a different store location and then the jacket at the bottom, which I'm actually going to ship to the customer. And of course, below the jacket, it's now asking for a shipping address. So this is a great opportunity to ask the customer to have an account with us. And so clicking to the top right, I can pull up my customer search where I can search here by loyalty ID, first name, last name. This is a layout driven by the CMS as well so you can define what's right for your brand.
I'm going to do a simple first name search here because I just wanted to show you multiple results coming back, and I want to point out how Rachel Morris at the bottom here has a badge next to her. And we can also visually badge customers based on segmentation inside the point of sale. So you can think of this from loyalty use cases from VIP or other components. So you can actually take segmentation from your CRM and display it right into the point of sale.
So I'm going to click on Rachel. I'm going to fetch her profile into the transaction. And now you can see the pickup info for the red runners and the shipping address here have all been updated, pulling in from the customer's profile. So we can also pull in this information, so sort of like that just that more seamlessness of taking data that we already have on the customer, pulling it in to make the transaction more seamless. On the right-hand side, we can support all modern tenders, things like cash, card, gift cards and even things like in-store pay by link and remote pay by link that I'm pulling up here. So you can even support really modern tenders, buy now, pay later. You're going to have customers paying outside of the store with remote pay by link.
And then the last thing I just wanted to show to finish this off today is I'm going to click on the customer profile on the top, and we're just going to look at that 360 view of the customer that we also have natively on the platform. And so here, I can dive into Rachel's 360 profile. I can see Rachel's details at the top. I can see her loyalty information in the middle. And this doesn't have to be a loyalty program. This could be any data you want to surface out of your CRM or CDP.
So I can see things like lifetime value, their spend, their loyalty level, rewards they have available. I can see their personalized recommendations that we're pushing down to them. So now be it online or in store, they have those same recommendations available to them based on the purchasing habits. We have things like their online wish list and their abandoned cart, so we can even see a wish list that they have online or a cart that they left online, so we can help pick up that transaction there with the customer as well. As a virtual closet, which is like an order history, pardon me, but broken out, so you can actually just see the products and use this to understand what this customer purchase and have that more engaged personalized conversation with them.
And of course, below that, we have a full order history where we can go into that order servicing I mentioned or returns. And at the bottom, we have customer notes, which allows us to basically add notes on the customer, tying this to the unified customer profile. And this then allows your store associates, your call center agents to all be adding details, qualitative comments on a customer, join it to the customer profile, bringing those 2 teams of yours together and allowing you to see these qualitative details on a customer and again, using it to further personalize and engage with them.
So that's all of our demo today. Thank you very much. I am now going to turn it over to Cheryl and Chad.
Thanks, Martin. Really appreciate you walking us through the demo. Excited to be here with Chad Best from Lovesac. Chad, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you.
Chad and I have been working together for quite some years, but I thought we would bubble us up and kind of start at the high level. So let's just talk total retail industry first and kind of put that out there, like what do you see happening in the industry? What are some of the trends that are impacting your business and kind of how they're impacting you guys?
Yes, absolutely. Great questions, Cheryl, and thanks so much again for having me. So a few things, I think, that really come to mind when I think about retail trends that I'm seeing today, first and foremost is AI everything, right? It's hard to ignore. It's everywhere. In fact, my most recent trip to NRF, it was hard to find something that wasn't AI, right? Like it really is just the way of the future. And so really thinking about how to leverage AI in your business, but in the right areas that make the biggest impact because, again, it is available everywhere. And so just ensuring that it's not disruptive.
I think another trend that I'm really seeing, so many retailers today offer free shipping, free returns and really trying to figure out their way out of this returns situation. And so really trying to figure out -- I think many brands are trying to figure out what is their kind of resale approach or what is their disposition strategy for returns as we continue to service those customers based on their kind of shipping and return expectations.
And then I would say the last big one, and Martin spoke to it earlier, is really just seamless customer experiences. Customers have really -- they've been shopping online for a long time, even more so today. I happen to oversee the physical aspect of our business at Lovesac, and they expect a seamless experience in-store all the way through POS that is just like a transaction that they would guide in e-commerce. So those are probably a few big trends that I think are really on my mind today.
Yes. I think they're on a lot of retailers' minds right now. And I think a lot of people are trying to, to your point, apply some aspect of all of those: how are they going to manage the returns, how are they going to leverage AI, right, and how do you make sure it's a seamless customer journey. It's out there in the market for sure. And certainly, part of that on the customer side, they change. Their expectations change faster than any of the ones out there. What do you guys do that's different? How do you adapt to meet these customer changes that are coming ahead of you guys so fast and previously?
As I think about customer expectations, look, it's ever changing, right? And so I think the most important thing that I would say here is unlocking the ability to learn. At Lovesac, we know a lot about our customers. We do a tremendous amount of research, a lot of analytics. We have an internal consumer insights team that really just does a lot of work to understand our consumer. In addition, we do CSAT surveys that we send to the consumer through different points of their journey, prepurchase, at purchase, post-purchase, et cetera, really just to learn what is on their minds, what did we do really well, but what could we do better.
And then as a leadership team, we prioritize those quarterly and those items make their way to our road maps. And so a recent example of this is really just seeing -- in the need for speed, we were shipping products very quickly to our consumers. But our products are a la carte, seats and sides that you put together to make a sectional couch. And as those orders were shipping with speed to get to the customer and what we thought was the right thing to do to get it to them quickly, orders sometimes got separated. And so they weren't being delivered as one complete order. And we heard that in our surveys that they would rather, more than speed, to have a complete order that they could unpack and assemble and put together and enjoy when they were ready to. And so it really shifted how we approached our supply chain and how we ship.
Yes. That's amazing. That's a great example of taking and hearing your customers' voice and saying how are we going to make a change that is going to be impactful for customers going forward. Love that. And of course, that's one side of it is the customer experience, but your associates have to be enabled to have the success story here, right? So your stores, like you said, high touch point for your stores and you oversee all of the operations there. But what does it take? I mean obviously putting together custom sectionals takes a lot of work. So your employees have to be well equipped. So what is it that it takes between the right skills and tech to make sure that they are enabled to have the best experience with your customers?
Yes. I'll start actually answering much the same way I did for the customer experience, and that's understanding your associate experience. So in the same way that we survey and learn from our customers, we do exactly the same with our associates. And so yearly, we do an engagement survey. And as part of that survey, there's a full section, which is dedicated to really just the operational components and even the technology that we offer them to work within.
And in fact, just going back in 2021, 2022, that survey demonstrated that we had some problems with our previous POS provider. They were getting lots of time out during payment processing. It was really slow. So they were killing a lot of time kind of small talking with customers, unable to assist another guest because the POS just wasn't functioning. The technology wasn't functioning the way that we needed to. And that's actually how I found my way to modern POS as a customer was for exactly that reason. Again, same as in the customer experience, how do we take that associate feedback, bring it into our road map and POS was a big one for us to solve for, and that's exactly what we did.
Yes, it's been a great partnership, for sure. I certainly love going into your stores now and every associate every time is so happy when I pop in a store. They're like, "It's so nice to see you again." They're super happy. So it's been a great partnership for both of us, and I'm so happy that it's been working out for you. And of course, technology investments, they are critical. You guys found that with the store point of sale and having to make that investment to enhance that experience. But what are some of the other areas that retailers should be focusing on as it relates to technology and some of the investments they should be making there?
Yes. One of the biggest pieces of advice, I think, that I've learned over the years is really not to purchase technology for technology's sake, but to really understand what's the problem that you're trying to solve for, but not just the problem today, what are the challenges that you think you'll have as you continue to grow 3 years from now or 5 years from now and are you selecting a technology partner that provides you that capability or that ability to continue to grow. And so I think it's just a really important part of thinking about technology. Yes.
Yes. It makes total sense and really leads us into this next piece about modern point-of-sale solutions, right, and how they're becoming more advanced and more advanced. And we're trying to do the same with you, right? We listen to our strategic partners. We hear about the next feature sets that are being needed. But if you had to give advice to other brands and other retailers about their customer experience in the stores, obviously, listening to the customers, listening and trying to find those pain points has got to be a key component of that. But what are some of the other things that they should be looking for?
Yes, sure. So a couple of table stakes ones that I mentioned earlier, but they're worth mentioning because of the situation that I was in, but speed and accuracy kind of number one, but those should be table stakes, but unfortunately, they're not always. And so I think that's important; an open API or the ability to adapt and grow because your business will change and you want to integrate, you want to do new things, and so choose a partner that is willing to grow with you and has some customizable options.
Martin was showing earlier in the demo, the ability to customize the home screen where the associate or the manager goes. That makes a big difference in the associate experience. And I would say ease of use is another big one. It was a game changer for us at Lovesac. We spent weeks prior teaching our associates not just how to use the technology, but how to use all of the workarounds that we had created in order to use the system we had. It's just not true today. An associate or a manager that's new with us can pick up an iPad and within just a few moments, once they understand the product, can find their way around modern POS and immediately begin building a quote or building a transaction without any sort of instruction manual or user guide. It's really just that intuitive.
And then one final thing that I think I would say here because environments change as well in how you interact with consumers. So for us, in a furniture retail environment, sometimes I'm at a cash wrap desk and I want a stationary kiosk, where others I'm sitting with you on a couch and we're building something together perhaps on a tablet, or I might be kind of moving around the store and picking different products, different fabrics, et cetera, and maybe a mobile solution is best. And so having that flexibility, I think, has certainly been an unlock for us as well.
That's awesome to hear. And you talked about the different user interfaces that you have for maybe a store manager versus an associate and the ease of use to be able to make those changes as Martin was kind of demonstrating the configurability. And it's interesting, too, right? Because on your side, the operations team actually owns that back-end at the console, right? So when you think about the ease of use, not only for the store side, but even in-house, the fact that you've got somebody within the store operations world that's able to own and configure the point of sale, it's not requiring heavy IT, heavy coding, she's able to just go and run with it, right?
No formal POS training and no formal IT training, she has the ability to reconfigure, launch new products, customize, load new promotions with ease. And so yes, it's really a game changer on the back end as well. That's an excellent point.
Yes, that's awesome. And then, of course, we always talk about customer experience, and that's I know at the heart of everything that you do, eat, breathe and sleep right. But what's next for you guys in terms of the customer journey? And where are you looking to enhance the next thing? I guess, probably getting a ton of feedback with all your surveys at the different portions, there a different portion of the journey that perhaps you're focusing on? Like, what's next for the customer experience?
Yes. A couple of things in my mind. So Lovesac, I think, is a little unique in the furniture vertical for how we sell. At heart, we're a product-based company. And so though we still offer aesthetic and style, it's certainly part of buying furniture. We also are selling products that have a lot of other features and benefits, embedded sound systems, recliners that you can move around to any seat. And so all of those things take a fair amount of demonstration.
And so as I really think about customer experience, specifically in our touch points today, I've been focused a lot on how do we bring in new innovation without disrupting the associate selling experience. It's a very scripted experience. It's very well choreographed. Our associates do an amazing job with it, but we're innovating now at rapid speed. And so how do we do that and bring new products and services into the pipeline and still offer great experiences to not just our customers, but to our associates as well. And so certainly something I've really been focused on in our journey.
Yes. No, that's a great point. Yes, it's ever evolving, and there's always going to be newness on how you continue to engage differently. And then, of course, omnichannel is always forefront of everybody's mind. We talked a little bit about unified commerce today and the vision and the future of Retail Cloud with modern point of sale, combined with Commerce Cloud and order management and really, that convergence of online and offline. And what does the future look like for Lovesac when you think about these 2 channels being separate and getting those put together?
Yes. I go back and maybe similar for others on the call, but I often reference the pandemic as kind of a time period that was really the tipping point for us at Lovesac. We were talking about omnichannel before, and we were dabbling in it at best. But when we closed all retail stores and for a period of time and those customers began to reach out to customer service or to try to purchase online, we very quickly were able to identify where were the friction points in the experience and how do we want to go about solving them. I'm fortunate that my e-commerce partner and myself have worked together for a decade. And so we make all of our decisions about the customer experience together, and that includes how we go to market with our systems online and in showroom.
But a recent example of that, a very large portion of our transactions at Lovesac begin as a quote. It's not super easy to configure how you want to build your couch. And so customers come to the website, they learn about Lovesac. They come to a store, they build something and then they usually go home to measure, think, consider, et cetera. And so just this past year, our e-com partners said, "Okay, let's figure out how to really close this gap from an omnichannel experience. Let's harness the power of that pipeline that you've built in retail stores and let's provide opportunities that a customer could go to lovesec.com, pull up that quote, edit, make changes if they want and convert online." And so we'll never be done because it's always changing, but really just always looking for where there are friction points and identifying how we might be able to close those.
Yes. It's a great concept. And you think about the purchases of a brand-new sectional, right, to your point, you don't make that decision lightly. It oftentimes requires some additional thought. The ability to now be able to go online and make some changes in edits to then complete it. One less trip for a customer, one less phone call that a customer has to make, like I could see that being such a game changer for your business. Absolutely amazing.
So let's talk a little bit about loyalty. I mean I'm obviously a Lovesac customer myself. So I certainly have my loyalty, and that will be forever there. But how do you view loyalty, loyalty programs and especially as it relates to point of sale? As Martin kind of showed, the clienteling and the 360 view of the customer, the ability to designate loyal customers, being able to understand rewards and points and all these different components to keep that customer coming back for more, coming back for the latest trend, the latest item that you guys are launching, like how do you guys view loyalty? And what do you think about that?
Great question. And I'll try not to get too carried away here. But essentially, one of our strategies at Lovesac is essentially the Lovesac flywheel. And the left side of that flywheel is all about new customer acquisition, opening new touch points, developing new product platforms. But then the right side of that flywheel is lifetime value. And we design our products as platforms that you can continue to evolve upon. They're designed for life. They're built to last. You can have them forever if you choose to. And so because of that, you can add a recliner 3 years from now to a sectional that you already bought. You can change your covers. You can change your cushion fill, your arm style, et cetera. And so we have a lot of repeat customers at Lovesac that do exactly that.
And so because of that, clienteling and loyalty are both incredibly important to us. We spend a lot of time with the customer during their initial interaction. And we usually have a pretty good idea of what they're purchasing today, but also what are their next couple of purchases that are on their mind as well. And we actually have just started to leverage the quiz module that Martin was sharing earlier in order to collect some of that additional ancillary information about a customer so that we can keep that relationship going, not just to purchase but beyond purchase as well.
That's fantastic to hear. Like that will be a great -- I could see you guys using a lot of that rich data that you're able to collect on your customers to keep them coming back. It's fantastic. And then lastly, I'll kind of wrap it up with this last question, which I know is near and dear to Lovesac's heart, but certainly as it relates to Salesforce as well and certainly, sustainability just being such a key component of everybody's top of mind these days. And maybe you can share with us a little bit about the steps Lovesac has taken in terms of their sustainability programs and the process there.
Yes, absolutely. I mean we certainly have a goal probably like many others to be carbon-free. And I'll say those sustainability for Lovesac means even a little more than just saving the earth or just recycling. We actually design our products to be sustainable, meaning that you can use them forever, as I mentioned a moment ago, if you want to. And so they're high quality. They have a lifetime guarantee. And so because of that, we keep traditional couches out of landfills because you can buy your sectional, they're endlessly rearrangeable, configurable, and so you can do anything you want at any time you want. And so that alone makes us sustainable.
The fabric upholstery that is underneath the covers that all of our seats insides are covered in is a fabric called REPREVE. We recycle millions of plastic water bottles to make that fabric and in fact, one of the largest users of REPREVE fabric in the retail space, certainly today.
And then there's all the other initiatives that people do, right? By just leveraging modern POS combined with a digital quote system and the quiz module I spoke about a moment ago, those alone are saving us hundreds of thousands of sheets of paper that ordinarily we would have used either to follow up with customers internally or to even send them home with as well. And so the whole experience is just much more modernized, but makes us a lot more sustainable as well.
Yes. That makes complete sense to me. And obviously, I know a lot about your products and your solutions, having been working with you for quite some time. So I obviously knew about the product and the recycled bottles, but love to hear the story, too, about how modern point of sale can help you with your sustainability efforts, which is fantastic.
Just one more point that I'd like to make about sustainability because I think I spoke to it in the first question, and that is about this notion of resale and figuring out returns. And so Lovesac is on a mission right now to really figure out the circular operations program and to really understand how we can bring trade-in and resale to the furniture space. And so because of that, we've been doing some internal pilots, and we have some consumer-facing pilots coming later this year to really provide customers the ability to trade in product and buy new things that they want.
That's exciting. That's exciting. That should be a really great pilot. Looking forward to experiencing that one. Awesome. Well, Chad, thank you so much for the chat today. I really appreciate your time and partnership as always. So thank you for being here.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
All right. With that, Martin, I will hand it back over to you.
Thanks very much. Awesome conversation, guys. Just really cool to hear all of the stuff, Chad, you went on at Lovesac.
And so thank you very much, everybody, for joining us today. We're going to wrap up, give everybody a couple of minutes back. Thank you again, Chad, for being here. Thank you, Cheryl. As a reminder, the webinar is going to be available through the URL. You're going to get an e-mail tomorrow, and there is the resources link below the slide. So we hope you all join us again in the future. Have a great day, everybody. Thank you very much.
Thanks guys. Buh-bye.
Thank you.
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Salesforce — Special Call - Salesforce, Inc.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Essenz: Salesforce hat Retail Cloud (ehem. PredictSpring) als GA‑Webinar vorgestellt: ein cloud‑ und mobilzentriertes Point‑of‑Sale‑System, das Stores nativ in Commerce Cloud, OMS und Data Cloud integriert, Offline‑Betrieb bietet und Agentforce/AI‑Funktionen für personalisierte In‑Store‑Erlebnisse ermöglicht.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Produkt: Headless UI und No‑Code‑CMS für schnelle Anpassung; Funktionen zeigen Clienteling, Quiz‑Formulare, Endless‑Aisle, Inventarmanagement, Mixed‑Cart und native Produktsuche.
- Integration: Native Verknüpfung mit Loyalty, Order Management und Commerce Cloud; einheitliches Kundenprofil und AI‑Basierte Empfehlungen sollen Omnichannel‑Workflows vereinheitlichen.
- Skalierung: GA vor kurzem, läuft auf Hyperforce (AWS/GCP‑Layer) zur globalen Performance‑ und Ausfallsicherheit; Zielgruppe sind spezialisierte Einzelhändler (Apparel, Home, Beauty u.a.).
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Neu: Produkt ist laut Präsentation vor etwa einer Woche allgemein verfügbar; bis Sommer wird native Loyalty‑Integration erwartet. Patentierte Offline‑Modi, Mixed‑Cart‑Flows und ein integrierter Quiz‑Builder wurden als unmittelbar verfügbare Features demonstriert.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Retail Cloud erweitert Salesforces Addressable Market ins In‑Store‑Softwaregeschäft und stärkt das Unified‑Commerce‑Argument. Potenzial für wiederkehrende Umsätze und Cross‑Sell in bestehende Kundenbestände ist gegeben; Anleger sollten Umsetzungstempo, Integrationsfortschritt und Kunden‑Adoptionsraten beobachten.
Salesforce — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Welcome to the Salesforce Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Spencer, Executive Vice President of Finance and Strategy and Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today on our fiscal 2026 second quarter results conference call. Our press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our website. Joining me on the call today is Marc Benioff, Chair and CEO; and Robin Washington, Chief Operating and Finance Officer. We also have Srini Tallapragada, President and Chief Engineering and Customer Success Officer; and Miguel Milano, Press Chief Revenue Officer, joining us for the Q&A portion of the call.
Some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results or outcomes could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks and uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results or outcomes is included in our SEC filings, including our most recent report on forms 10-K, 10-Q and other SEC filings. Except as required by law, we do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements.
As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results and guidance can be found in our earnings materials and press release.
And with that, let me hand the call to Mark.
All right. Hey, Mike, thank you so much. I'm really excited to get into the call. And as you saw, we really had a great quarter to close out the first half of the year with outstanding performance across all of our key metrics, including our revenue, our margin, our cash flow, our CRPO. And even our AI and data cloud numbers were all incredible.
We outperformed on Q2 revenue with $10.25 billion, up 10% year-over-year and 9% in constant currency. Miguel's sales team drove incredible momentum. Net new bookings from deals over $1 million grew 26% year-over-year. And we closed deals with companies like Dell, Marriott, Eaton, U.S. Bank, Japan Post Bank, Lululemon and the U.S. Army.
And non-GAAP operating margin came in strong at 34.3%. And we outperformed on CRPO with $29.4 billion, up 11% year-over-year. And the AI and data product line is up 120% year-over-year.
We're on track to close out fiscal '26 as a record year, raising our guidance on the low end for revenue, raising on non-GAAP operating margin and cash flow. And we expect to finish with nearly $15 billion in operating cash flow. That's just incredible and a huge raise from the previous quarter.
Make no mistake, these results aren't just financial milestones. It's the growth that we are seeing, particularly with [ Agent Force ] and Data Cloud, and it's proof and you're about to get into this now as I start to really give you our fundamental organizing principle for the company and what I believe the enterprise software industry is about to become because the agent -- agentic enterprise, the agentic enterprise, the real manifestation of what AI was meant to be, well, that agentic enterprise has arrived. In the 3 quarters since we launched Agent Force, we have now won more than 6,000 paid deals and more than 12,500 overall. And 40% of our Agent Force new bookings this quarter came from existing customers extending their investment with Salesforce. And it's demonstrating the value that they're getting and how the flywheel is really working.
We've seen a 60% increase quarter-over-quarter in customers who've gone from pilot to production and they're expanding use cases and scaling consumption. And this is just the beginning of the most transformative time in our industry ever.
I've never been more excited about anything in my entire career. We're about to get into it. I've spent weeks on the road this summer meeting with CEOs, CIOs and frontline teams. And one thing is extremely clear to me, every single one of our customers is becoming an agentic enterprise. It's a huge vision for the future. It's a huge vision for the future of business. And really, it's a huge vision for the future of Salesforce.
But this isn't just an upgrade. This isn't simply just some automating some existing business process these agentic enterprises. Well, for Salesforce, it's certainly true. It's a complete transformation. And for our customers, the agentic enterprise is a complete reinvention in many cases of who they are and what their potential is. It's a shift from traditional hierarchies to reshaping the entire company from busy work to orchestrating workflows, from siloed teams to seamless collaboration, from clicking and routing to natural conversations. And hours are shrinking to seconds, employees and customers are being augmented.
But ultimately, it's about this. It's about humans and agents working together with every decision grounded in trusted data. This is, as I said, what AI was meant to be.
And I'd just like to talk about what that agentic enterprise means for us at a very high level, how we're going to define it. And then also like to talk about what some of our customers are doing and what we're doing as well. I mean, I think that across our portfolio, we are adding these native agentic capabilities into every single one of our products. In sales, every prospect is finally getting a call back, agents qualify at scale, humans close the deal.
I mean let me just get into that for just a minute. Our Sales Cloud for years has been an app that thousands or millions of salespeople use to manage their sales every single day. But now riding alongside every salesperson is an agentic salesperson. And that agentic salesperson is calling every single person back. And how that relates to Salesforce, well, let me tell you that, well, maybe somewhere between 20 million and 100 million people who have contacted Salesforce in the last 26 years, they haven't been called back. It's just because we didn't have enough people. But now with our new agentic sales, everybody is getting called back. It's a huge breakthrough and something that every company is going to benefit from.
And in service, we've been talking about that now for months, you can see our agents are handling millions of conversations while humans are delivering the empathy and expertise. Well, it's a bigger story than that, where you know that we have delivered in the last 9 months about 1.5 million conversations just for our own company on help.salesforce.com. And you also know that we continue to have thousands of humans who are also delivering their support answers. Well, guess what, the CSAT scores are about the same.
In field service, agents orchestrate scheduling and logistics so technicians can focus on solutions. I saw it myself at my home. I have this incredible device from Eaton, one of our large customers using our field service product. And it actually connects my air stream trailer to my house. And when the technician comes out to work on it, well, they're able to use the agentic capability to learn as much as possible about the product that I'm using and how to fix it and how to repair it, while also managing the traditional system of record that's on the field service capability, managing all the field service and service operations through the field service capability. It's really pretty awesome.
And we've been showing now for a few months, starting at our Tableau conference, the new version of Tableau, where agents surface insights and make recommendations instantly and where agents and humans are working together to make smarter, faster decisions.
One really cool thing when we look at our marketing product, and I'm sure you know, we do about $11 trillion e-mails a year to our customers, well, those are all one-way conversations. But now we're demonstrating to our customers and about to release our new e-mail platform that provides every one-way conversation into a 2-way conversation. And agents are going to turn these one-way e-mails into 2-way conversations.
In commerce, it's the same thing. Agents are giving every seller superpowers and shoppers a personal assistant. And if you've seen anyone from Salesforce recently, have them show you how we're using Slack as our interface to our own agentic enterprise where we have dozens of agents with people and apps and LMs, all in one conversational agentic workspace. It's pretty cool. And these agents are operating across apps, departments, silos, all running off of our data cloud, all running off of agent force. It's an incredible transformation of our product line, but really of our company. Not just of our company, but of our customers, too. This is a moment in business that we'll never forget where every business is becoming an agentic enterprise.
If we look out into our customers, we're already starting to see some incredible examples. Let me tell you, DIRECTV save billing reps nearly 300 hours of inquiry handling with Agent Force. And Employee AI Agent executed 50,000 actions in a week. I've been working with DIRECTV for more than 20 years at Salesforce. And I'll tell you, when I wrote that line for the script, it just kind of occurred to me, "Wow, I think only about a year ago, we hadn't even started using the word agent or agentic or Agent Force at Salesforce." And here we are talking about one of our largest and most important customers receiving this incredible benefit.
Engine, an incredible company, projecting millions in annual savings by cutting call times. PenFed, we talked about, many scripts that we've had, already projecting millions in annual savings by using Agent Force in its loan underwriting. And our good friends at Under Armour and Kevin Plank, well, he more than doubled his case deflection rate and boosted customer satisfaction by double digits. And they did it in under 60 days. Kind of an incredible thing to see the speed of these deployments in enterprise software.
Now a lot of our employees are excited about Reddit because they've reduced average resolution times from 8.9 minutes to 1.4 minutes. And Telepass, well, they've powered more than 275,000 agentic conversations over 5 months. And the way they got it in the script is "We can't believe the speed and growth of these conversations just in the last few weeks," a conversation with the management level that they've become one of our fastest-growing agent force customers.
So it's no wonder we're seeing so many companies build on their initial success. Our good friends in Copenhagen, Pandora, the amazing jewelry retailer, Alex's entire team scaled from 1 agent to 3 in a single quarter. And I'm so glad they're coming to Dreamforce to show everyone exactly what they're doing.
And our friends at Indeed have more than doubled the number of actions taken by their customer-facing agents and added another agent in Slack to drive internal productivity.
And finally, I have to mention because it's kind of an amazing story, that Williams Sonoma, and we've only been live for a few weeks, started with Agent Force powering customer support for just one of their brands. I think you know they have like quite a few amazing brands like Pottery Barn and West Elm and others. Well, now it's rolled out along 8 of their brands and as well as agents for other use cases, including a sous chef agent, that is helping customers choose cookware and guiding them step-by-step through recipes. They are finding incredible new ways to use the Agent Force platform. And they're doing it side by side across their entire sales force deployment.
Now these are all examples, including Salesforce, of an agentic enterprise in action. But it's really about how each company is transforming to become an agentic enterprise. And none of this is possible without Data Cloud. Data Cloud is the heart and soul of the success of these agents because it is providing the data and the metadata that you need and the context to get the accuracy.
We probably have the highest accurate agents in the industry, and the way that we're achieving that is through our data cloud. It's this Data Cloud as well as Tableau and MuleSoft and soon Informatica, all working together to really helping our customers to clean and harmonize their data and provide it in a way that can be consumed by our Agent Force platform to provide this level of accuracy.
I think the data business is probably the most strategic and most important business for Salesforce going forward. And already, it's a $7 billion business. And Data Cloud is having a great year. It had 140% year-over-year growth in customers and 326% growth in [ Rose access ] by zero-copy integration. The usage numbers are really just off the charts. But over half of the Fortune 500 are already on Data Cloud, but it's really just the very, very beginning.
Now FedEx, and you're going to see them at Dreamforce, their Chief Operating Officer, Richard Smith, is coming to be part of my keynote. Well, let me tell you that they've got unified data across all their platforms now with Data Cloud, and the numbers that they're telling us that they're saving, well, I'm not going to -- I'm not going to take away Richard's punchline from the Dreamforce keynote, it's like numbers I've never heard in terms of what the amount that can be saved by technology.
And now if a business customer [ isn't ] actively shipping, our own marketing cloud campaign is automatically triggered and sales reps are alerted and it's all happening through our Data Cloud. And this idea that FedEx has seen a double-digit increase in the percentage of customers who signed the contract and proceeded to start shipping, it's dramatically surprised them what has been possible in such a short period of time. And honestly, it's also surprised us.
Now I want to mention 2 areas where we're laser-focused and where the opportunity remains absolutely enormous. And that is public sector. But also a new product category for us, which a lot of you know, ITSM or IT service. Now let's talk just briefly about the government.
Now you already know, our government is already our largest and most important customer. It's a multibillion-dollar customer for Salesforce. And we've been driving efficiency and performance and taxpayer savings for more than a decade. Everybody knows that we run the VA, the Veterans Affairs, and the U.S. [ Coast Guard ] and so many great agencies. But we're starting to expand what we're doing even more and moving more into these DoD agencies as well. And this quarter, we finalized an incredible agreement, another one with the U.S. Army, a fast pass that enables Army teams to quickly access and deploy Salesforce.
It was a huge win for us. And already, we're helping the Army operate more efficiency, streamlining how they identify and elevate leaders, simplifying congressional reporting, powering Amazon like Marketplace for their tactical gear. I spoke with them yesterday. And I just, of course, first wanted to thank them for their service.
But second, I just wanted to say that it's incredible how they're looking at our technology to really transform their own operations. And now with Agent Force for public sector and FedRAMP High certification, we're able to sell more to the government than ever before because we're bringing the power of the agentic enterprise directly to the government. The Army is already planning to launch a digital front door for its Human Resource Command, providing 24/7 powered service and support to all soldiers and personnel and millions of veterans. And we have lots and lots of ideas at where we're going to be able to provide value for the U.S. Army. And in the 21st century, agents just aren't optional. We know that. They're mission-critical.
Well, there's another area where that's absolutely true, and that's in the world of ITSM and IT service. It's an application area that we just haven't gone to before. But I'm very excited that next month, and you're going to see this at Dreamforce as well, that we're launching our own agentic IT service platform. A lot of our existing customers have been asking for this. We're bringing a whole new level of capability. It's agent-first and it's Slack-first, that is right inside Slack, you're going to be using our agentic IT service capability.
It's natively embedded where employees already work with 0 learning curve. And with agentic IT service, well, every request is becoming a conversation where agents work hand-in-hand with IT teams proactively fixing their problems. It's going to be an incredible growth driver for the company. But it's just really another example of how every platform is going to become agentic. And I think we're really excited that we're getting there first.
And it's a very democratic platform. A lot of the ITSM products have only served the very highest end of the market with maybe 1,000 customers here or 1,000 customers there. But the thing about Slack is that it's used by about 1 million customers worldwide. And I think all of them are going to be able to be able to benefit from this IT service platform. No one else is delivering this level of agenda capability and digital labor at scale.
Now we know how to do this because our own first customer for this, well, it's us. We are Customer 0. And over the last 6 months, as Customer 0, we've been doing all of these critical things that I've mentioned. Yes. Yes, we've done the 1.4 million customer support conversations with a 77% resolution rate. Yes, we have the sales agent that's qualifying prospects and generating pipeline. And yes, over 26 years, we just let too many millions of prospects go untouched. Mea culpa, that was our fault.
But in the last 7 weeks, this sales agent that we've just built, well, it's had conversations, conversations with tens of thousands of inbound leads, even setting up appointments with human [ SDRs ] and helping close deals. And we have it running in customers as well. It's been incredible what the opportunity is.
Look, we all know the agentic enterprise is here. We all know the agentic enterprise is the next wave of business. We all know that it's going to fundamentally reshape and rebuild and recast all of our companies. And we know that what's going to happen is going to be something that we could never have expected where humans and agents are going to be working side by side.
And look, Salesforce is going to lead the way. There's no question about that. We've built the software infrastructure for the agentic enterprise, we have our metadata platform unifying our apps, our data and agents into one powerful agentic operating system. We are rebuilding every single 1 of our products to be agentic. We're delivering almost every single one of those products at Dreamforce.
And at Dreamforce, you're going to see all of these products. You're going to see hundreds of customers that have deployed these products. And you're going to hear directly from leaders like Dow and FedEx and Accenture and Smartsheet and Williams Sonoma and Pfizer and OpenAI and Anthropic and so many others about how they are becoming agentic enterprises and using our Salesforce agentic operating system.
It's a funny thing. I don't think in the last earnings script, well, I guess, maybe if you go back a year ago, like was I even talking about agentic or Agent Force or agents? And now if you talk about the agentic enterprise, it's another layer above that. So you're going to see that we are rapidly moving to what the next generation of technology is. And at Dreamforce, you're going to see incredible new capabilities, like I said, not just the ITSM product and all these new platforms. You're going to see Agent Force version 4.
Well, it's going to be amazing, and you're not going to want to miss it. it's going to be October 14 through 16 in San Francisco. We have an incredible show put together. We've even got a great concert for our children's hospital put together with Metallic and Benson Boone. We've got some amazing surprises for our keynotes. But you're going to just see the future of technology. And let me just say this, at Salesforce, we've always believed that business is the greatest platform for change. We believed that when it was in the world of mobile and social and we believed that before there was AI. That was true in the cloud.
Well, the agentic enterprise for us is just not about efficiency or growth. It's about making a positive difference in the world. It's one of our core values at Salesforce, from helping companies serve their customers to driving sustainability to supporting communities. And this transformation is grounded in our purpose and in our values, and you're going to see all of that at Dreamforce as well.
Okay. Well, I'm really excited to have all of you on the call and answer your questions. And now over to Robin.
Thanks, Marc, and good afternoon, everyone. As Marc shared, we closed the first half with strong momentum and are on track for a record year. We're delivering customer success, executing with discipline and setting ourselves up to accelerate profitable growth.
The agentic enterprise is here and we know this firsthand. As Customer 0, our own sales, service and Slack agents are augmenting teams across the company, transforming how we work and driving operational excellence. We're also helping our customers like Lennar, Vonage, Booking and Pearson become agentic enterprises. They're trusting Salesforce to unify their data, apply real-time context and securely deploy agents that automate routine work, streamline operations and elevate every customer interaction.
That is why Data Cloud and AI ARR continues to scale, reaching $1.2 billion in Q2, growing 120% year-on-year.
Now let me give a little bit more context on the strong results for the quarter. As Marc shared, revenue in the second quarter was $10.24 billion, up 10% year-over-year in nominal and 9% in constant currency. This was better than expected, driven primarily by onetime licensing revenue and professional services recognition as well as strong execution. Subscription and support revenue grew slightly above 9% in constant currency.
We delivered another quarter of profitable growth with Q2 non-GAAP operating margin up 60 basis points and GAAP operating margin up 370 basis points, marking a 10th consecutive quarter of operating margin expansion.
Current remaining performance obligation, or CRPO, ended Q2 at $29.4 billion, up 11% year-over-year in nominal and 10% in constant currency. This was also better than expected driven by sales execution, particularly in creating [ close ], SMB and big deals.
As you know, we've built a resilient business with a diversified portfolio of products and our customer base across various geographies, segments and industries. From a geographic perspective, we saw strong new business growth in the U.S. and pockets of EMEA, particularly the Netherlands and Switzerland, while the U.K. and Japan were constrained. From a segment perspective, we continue to see strong performance in our small and mid-market business this past quarter. And from an industry perspective, technology and comms and media performed well, while retail and consumer goods and public sector remain measured.
These results reflect our disciplined focus on the 3 strategic priorities I laid out last quarter. I'll walk you through our progress on each.
First, we focused on delivering customer success and accelerating data and AI adoption. Customers continue to trust Salesforce for their most mission-critical workflows. In fact, service and platform were in all of our top 10 wins and 70% of our top 100 wins included 5 or more clouds. Further, building on that solid foundation, data and AI products were in 60 deals greater than $1 million.
Our consumption model is showing strong early success. I want to underscore what Marc just talked about. More than 40% of our data cloud and Agent Force bookings this quarter came from existing customers expanding their investment. Agentic AI and data make the capabilities of our unified platform, the information, the logic and the workflows, more important and valuable than ever before.
And we are making it even easier for new customers to get started. Last month, we announced new flexible payment options for Agent Force, including pay-as-you-go, to lower the barrier to adoption and encourage experimentation. And following their launch last quarter, Flex Credits now account for 80% of Agent Force Q2 new bookings.
As Customer 0, our internal deployment is key to our second priority, operational excellence to maximize shareholder value. In Q2, we expanded 24/7 instant support to 6 new languages, which combined with English now cover over 94% of our global case volume. Earlier this year, we launched our IT and HR agents in Slack to support our employees. And in July, we launched dozens more specialized agents in Slack. We believe that being agent-first is a key driver of our own long-term margin expansion.
As part of our lean agentic enterprise transformation, we're making smart trade-offs as we manage our portfolio of products and end markets. We are reallocating resources and ruthlessly prioritizing our investments to accelerate data and AI adoption and drive further growth.
Finally, all of this is underpinned by our third priority: maintaining a responsible capital allocation strategy. Our strategy is simple: make disciplined investments to fuel profitable growth and maintain a balanced approach of return of capital to our shareholders via share repurchases and dividends.
Leveraging our responsible M&A framework, we are making strategic investments that accelerate our agentic road map. In the last few months, we closed the acquisitions of Convergence AI, Blue Birds and Y, and entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Regrello, bringing in key talent and technology to accelerate our innovation. These assets will unlock valuable new data and agented capabilities for our customers.
Also a quick update on Informatica. We now expect Informatica to close in the fourth quarter of FY '26 or early in FY '27. At this time, given the variability and potential closing timing, we have not included any contribution from Informatica in our guidance.
And on capital return, in Q2, we returned $2.6 billion to shareholders through buybacks and dividends. This brings our total capital return since the program began to nearly $27 billion. And today, I'm pleased to announce that our Board has approved a $20 billion expansion of our share repurchase authorization.
So finally, let's get into guidance. We are pleased to raise the low end of our fiscal year '26 revenue guidance to $41.1 billion to $41.3 billion. This results in growth of approximately 8.5% to 9% year-over-year in nominal and 8% in constant currency. On foreign exchange, we now expect a $300 million tailwind, up $50 million since our last print. We are reiterating our subscription and support revenue growth of approximately 9% year-over-year in constant currency, driven by the momentum in data cloud and agent force this year. This is partially offset by weakness in marketing and commerce and slower growth in our exploration base.
We are pleased to raise our non-GAAP operating margin 10 basis points to 34.1% for the year, building on the continuous improvement from the last few years and aligned with our ongoing commitment to long-term margin improvement. We now expect GAAP operating margin of 21.2%. This is inclusive of additional restructuring charges.
We are also raising our annual guidance on operating cash flow growth to 12% to 13%. This is driven by cash tax savings as a result of the recently enacted tax bill. We now expect CapEx of slightly below 2% of revenue, resulting in free cash flow growth of 12% to 13%.
Turning to Q3 guidance. Revenue is expected to be $10.24 billion to $10.29 billion, up 8% to 9% year-over-year in nominal and 8% in constant currency. CRPO growth for Q3 is expected to be slightly above 10% year-over-year in nominal, including a $300 million FX tailwind, resulting in slightly above 9% constant currency growth. As a reminder, while we have seen more normalized bookings growth recently, CRPO will continue to be impacted by the cumulative effect of the measured sales performance that started in Q2 fiscal year '23.
In closing, we continue to deliver strong results. And by investing with discipline, we are positioning ourselves incredibly well for the agentic future. We're excited to share more about our product strategy and how we are delivering the agentic enterprise at Dreamforce in October. I look forward to seeing many of you there.
I'll turn it back over to Mike.
Thanks, Robin. Operator, we'll take the first question, please. .
[Operator Instructions] Your first question will come from Kash Rangan with Goldman Sachs.
2. Question Answer
One for you, Marc. The debate that has surfaced lately is, has SaaS outlived its long run? Tech cycles have rarely lasted this long. So how defensible is SaaS, particularly the category that you're in within SaaS against disruption from AI native apps and maybe custom-built AI?
One, if I could sneak one for you, Robin. Data Cloud and Agent Force showing triple-digit growth. When does that inflect the top line?
Well, thanks, Kash. I think that you're absolutely right. The software industry is going through a tremendous transformation, and it's really driven by kind of the fundamental acceleration of artificial intelligence. Now I think you know that Salesforce has been AI for more than a decade with our Einstein platform, but it's really the emergence of large language models that really are giving us a new platform that we can build on and extend our applications with.
And that idea that all of a sudden, we've been running customer service here at Salesforce, as I mentioned, since we started 26 years ago, on our own app. And what that meant was that there were humans, about 6,000 of them or 7,000 or 8,000 of them or 9,000, whatever the number is. Well, those humans, they're there working on the application and they are adding to it and changing it and working with it and so forth and so on and resolving cases and talking to customers and also posting information on our website and helping customers to find new ways to resolve their issues.
And then all of a sudden, this year, we've now built an incredible new capability called Agent Force. And by building that capability, there is an agent, kind of an incredibly intelligent piece of software that's also now directly working with the customer. So we have humans working with the customers like we have and now also agents.
And it's not just at some small scale, it's actually at a large scale. In the last 9 months, about 1.5 million conversations happened directly with these agents and 1.5 million of these conversations happened with humans. And so it's those apps and it's the agents working together.
Now it's not the agents have completely taken over the huge customer support channel at Salesforce. It's just not possible. Because AI, as we all know, these large language models only have a certain level of accuracy and it's not 100%. It's probably about in the 90s when it really gets well-architected with our data cloud and with all the different kind of capabilities and kind of really advanced techniques that we've come up with to make our AI as accurate as it can.
And so by doing that, yes, there's a lot that we can resolve automatically through these agents with the customers, but there's also a lot that cannot be resolved. And that has to be escalated to the humans. And so it's humans and agents working together to satisfy customer success. And this is what has been extremely important.
And it's all built on this huge data fabric, which is really our Data Cloud, metadata and really our system of record that we've built up with our customers over 2.5 decades. And that's about the 200 or 300 petabytes of information that we manage for our customers.
Now that metaphor for sales -- for service, well, that's also now happening for sales as well. As I mentioned, with this incredible new robotic sales person that's out there calling back every single one of our lead and setting appointments and even, in many places, closing deals, and it's going to be true in every application we made.
So it's not about the fundamental, I would say, elimination of SaaS. What I would say, it's the fundamental extension of SaaS. And I think that the fever that we have around this, well, maybe this is why we're one of the first companies at scale to not only deliver these solutions, but use these solutions. I guess when I look at the other large enterprise software companies and I look at their websites and I look at how the capabilities that they're providing in terms of kind of same old FAQ systems and this kind of thing, versus what we've done at help.salesforce.com, well, I'd say we're way ahead. And I think we have a very crystal-clear vision about what the future of enterprise software looks like and how we're going to be able to help customers achieve a level of success.
Over the weekend, I read that MIT study that's becoming very popular, which really goes to show that a lot of companies have thought they were on the right path with generative AI, building their own models, doing it themselves, hooking it all up. And now they're claiming about 94% of those projects have failed. But we've been saying that was going to happen for the last several years, as you know. But that's not what our customers are saying. Our customers are saying that they're getting phenomenal results and that they have humans and agents working together to create a new level of customer success, or we say it at Salesforce as an agentic enterprise.
Yes, maybe to add, Kash, to your point, what -- how should we think about revenue growth acceleration, I'll add to Marc's excitement. We really do see this as the opportunity to define the agentic enterprise. And I'd say we're really starting to harvest the benefits of the investments that we've made in our products. We're continuing to double down on innovation, as I talked about, and we're placing bets in all the right areas. Net new AOV, deployment of agents with FTEs and our AE capacity in growing areas.
I think one of the things we report to you, our cloud revenue, on a quarterly basis for transparency. But we're really evolving our pricing and our go-to-market strategy. So yes, it is early days in the adoption cycle, but we are really confident in our strategy to monetize AI. We're focused on capturing the value for our customers. And I'd say we're really optimizing for usage of our platform. We believe this will unlock deeper value across all of our core products over time.
Your next question will come from Keith Weiss with Morgan Stanley.
Marc, I really agree with your characterization of the extension of SaaS versus the elimination of SaaS. Almost seems like the market has a little bit of a mischaracterization of what generative AI is, thinking of it as a category versus a big extension of capabilities. And I think Salesforce is showing their ability to deliver those capabilities.
One of the stats that you talked about in the quarter was the 60% increase in pilot to production. Was there some technology catalyst or some implementation catalyst that caused that increase of conversions of the pilot projects into production? If so, what was that? And any color you could give us on what that looks like, what a production deal is going to look like around Agent Force versus what you've been seeing in the pilots?
I'd really like to call in Miguel and Srini to kind of give you some real insights into what's going on in the field with our customers. Because I think it will really illuminate for you some of the real-life examples that kind of get to kind of what you're trying to point out. Srini?
Yes. So I think a great question. So one of the things which we have been working very closely with our customers using our forward deployment engineers in motion, and what we have been working, and customers are at different stages, like some are in pilots, some are in production and doing multiple agents. And as we are learning, people are -- we are figuring out with our customers lot of gaps in how they think about their product. They all try to do the do-it-yourself and they're realizing that you can't [ white-code your way ] to enterprise reliability and security.
And that's why you hear a lot of customers or you hear a lot of news about pilot purgatory. But some of the special things we have to do in the product. So for example, we worked with Equinox and we learned that they -- for their brand image, the gym company, they had a lot of UI treatment specialized branding, and we added it in the product. Then we are working with customers like Lennar and [ Adecco ] where most of these places where the engineers were caught in what I call the prompt doom loop, where people are trying to write prompts and write prompts, and anybody who's an AI engineer will tell you, it's very frustrating, and you do it.
So one of the things we have to build is determinism in our agents, allowing them to power -- to leverage the power of the LLMs in a trusted level.
Another thing, in our own deployment, as we get to -- that is at the entry level. But as you go to real scale, initially when we did help.salesforce.com, we would have a look at every answer the agents are doing and fine-tune it and understand it. But as you're trying to understand millions of such requests, you cannot do it. So we had to build in the product what we call Agent Force Command Center to enable observability and track it, and performance-manage, if you will, the agents on a scaled way.
So I think this is why you're seeing, as the statistic says, 40% of our revenue is coming from existing customers, increase their consumption. They're really seeing that, hey, I got the first version. So a series of tactical, practical features with a very closed-loop with our customers and hardening, deep integration with our Data Cloud and platform, really increasing the scale, and then just some engineering, customer success, cycle and the product adoption cycle. And then, of course, we have our field teams, under Miguel, who are now trying to take this to market at different customers. And I'll pass it to Miguel to add his context.
Yes. So thank you, Srini, and thank you for making also Agent Force much faster to implement. Listen, let me take this back for a couple of seconds to the bigger picture. I just turned 57 last week, I'm approaching 34 years of professional career, and I don't think I've ever been this excited about our industry and the opportunity ahead of us. And the key is, and going back to Kash question and also Keith comment on the extensibility of these new AI capabilities, the key is with our core apps, which are nothing other than deterministic workflows that human use every day. Our Data Cloud, which is a single source of truth that humans and agents need to access. And our Agent Force agent capabilities that are natively, natively built in the apps and with the data, everything running on the same metadata language that humans and agents understand, this is the only one, the only way to scale AI.
So let me give you a couple of examples. I mean, Marc alluded to DIRECTV. Incredible business value. This is one of the biggest flex credit customers that we have globally. They went from pilot to production in just 2 months in a very complex environment. They run all our applications.
Two things that are worth noting is they leverage data cloud at speed, all the billing information from their backend systems through MuleSoft going to Data Cloud. And then, of course, all the 10,000 agents are working on Service Cloud. So that's a great example.
Another example, which is funny because we've already talked about them, but the story is just getting better. It's Falabella, is the largest retailer in Latin America. Their main use case, they have several, but their main use case is: Where is my order? And they solved that question to the customers across the web, in-app and WhatsApp. The pilot took 2 months from idea to production. They access their OMS system. They leverage the CRM data in Salesforce, knowledge articles that we put in Data Cloud. They connect Data Cloud to GCP. And the value is extraordinary. The NPS has increased by 10%, 10 points, from 70% to 70%. All the digital interactions, most of them, 70% of them have shifted to WhatsApp, and the call volume has dropped by 25%. But the very cool piece of the story here is they started being at this multi-100,000 customer. Then in May, they came back to refill the tank and they nearly tripled the business on agent force. And now we are discussing again to double. And the whole thing predicates on the fact that we are the only platform, the only software infrastructure that can bring the deterministic workflows, the data and the agentic reasoning and actioning on the same platform. And this is very exciting.
Well, I'd just like to summarize that. I just want to kind of come back to Kash's comment, and Keith, I think your comment is so insightful. But especially when you put it together with Kash, which is like we are seeing one of the greatest transformations in software, the idea that we're moving from that enterprise software is just for human beings to where it's also having an agentic layer and that, together, it's more powerful to serve customers and that it can create enterprises that are much lower cost and much more efficient and much more capable and much more powerful.
And it's against this strange narrative that's out there that somehow enterprise SaaS or apps or something are going away.
Now I guess, nothing lasts forever, okay? But I just look at how I'm running my own business and the business of our customers, I don't understand what the replacement is. So I just look at this incredible next-generation transformational capability, and I'm going to lay it all out at Dreamforce. And by the way, my keynote, I kind of threw away all my slides and I said, let's just have 12 CEOs of the largest companies on the planet just show you exactly what they're doing with this technology, because it's crystal clear what the value proposition is. But to hear some of this nonsense that's out there in social media or in other places, people say the craziest things, but it's not grounded in any customer truth.
And I think this is what really gets down to the part and parcel of it all, which is we are in the greatest transformation of our industry, which I characterize as the agentic enterprise. But the idea that there is, I'll just say, again, an AGI, that seems like a fantastical term. I know it's coming in the next week or 2 evidently. But this idea that there's some kind of AGI that's about to take over the whole world. Well, let me just help everybody understand that's not exactly what's about to happen, that we have this incredible capability, which is the large language model, which is the next step in artificial intelligence. And yes, we have been able to find what we think is the perfect synergy between the large language model and enterprise software, which we call the agentic enterprise or agents. And this idea that you can deliver an agentic enterprise, and you can do what we did, which is reduce your support heads and have an agentic layer and have a more efficient company and make more money and do better for your shareholders and also deliver a better experience for your customers and for your employees, well, that's what we're doing at Salesforce.
And some of the other nonsense that's out there, I just cannot get my head around. And by the way, I take everything very seriously. So when somebody makes some big common I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to go out there and really look at that because I guess AGI is going to happen tomorrow. So I'm ready for that, or, oh, I really -- okay, well, SaaS apps are going to -- well, are going to go away and I'm going to go check that out. But there's so much down sense. You got to separate the forest from the trees. Or for those of us who are kind of Bible readers, maybe we separate the wheat from the chaff. And I'll just tell you, as we separate the wheat from the chaff, just know there is truth out there, and you have to go out there and really find it. And the truth is always with the customers and also right here at Customer 0. And I plan to like lay it all out for you at Dreamforce as well on October 14.
Your next question will come from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
Marc, with the $20 billion addition to the buyback, there's questions about the strategy of leaning harder into the buyback and the balance of M&A? And I guess, does this signal that you're leaning harder towards a buyback? Or do you feel like you can do both M&A and the buyback? Just curious to get your thoughts. You have been doing higher frequency of deals, and I think everyone would love to hear your perspective on what this means.
Well, I think -- and let me give you my vision and then let me turn it over to Robin on execution. So I think at a high level, the most important thing is that we deliver extraordinary cash flow. That's number one. And I think we are delivering extraordinary cash flow for an enterprise software company, I think one of the highest in the industry of any enterprise software companies. And while a lot of software companies and others have just thrown their cash flow away to go build data centers or, dude, I don't even know what with their money.
But I'll just say that we are going to do 3 things with our money. One, we are going to provide a buyback, just like you said, because I think that is a great idea. We are also going to provide a dividend, which I think is also a great idea. And we're also going to use it to look around. And if we see great entrepreneurs or great technology or something that we've never seen before that just blows our mind, we're going to buy it. And we saw that a couple of times even during our quarter, you've heard this word Regrello, which is a word probably no one's ever heard before. And we've been talking to them for almost a year. And we know them because the CEO of Regrello and Srini used to work together at Oracle. And the President of Regrello used to work here at Salesforce. And so we've been tracking this company.
And then our customer Dell took their supply chain and automated 20,000 users using Regrello and that got our attention. And then we saw our customer Mercedes start to implement it as well and then we're like, what exactly is going on? And they started building agentic supply chain. And when we saw the technology, we said, "Oh, well, this might even be bigger than a genetic supply chain." And we just couldn't get our head around how they were doing exactly everything they were doing. And it took us about 9 months of due diligence. And then finally, we said, "Well, we think we're going to buy Regrello."
And we just love this company. And there's other little companies that we found. You heard that word Bluebirds. And there's other little things out there that we've seen. But when you have $15 billion of cash flow in a single year, like this year, and I think you know next year is going to be bigger, that we plan to use it in a smart way. And I think that, that trinity, using it for buybacks and using it for dividends and also using it to provide inorganic innovation is the right idea and a balanced framework, which is the one that we've laid out in previous earnings calls.
And I think we're executing it super well. And I think you also know we even have the super strategic acquisition that's getting teed up that we've been talking about now for several quarters to bring in because, look, every single customer is going through every AI transformation is a data transformation. It's not really spoken for some reason by others. But if you don't have your data right, you don't get your AI right. And so we all understand that.
And we think that every customer is going to need an Informatica, every customer is going to need a MuleSoft and every customer is going to need a Data Cloud. And together, we think that's called the AI foundation. And that AI foundation is the Data Cloud plus MuleSoft plus Informatica. And if you're going to roll out Agent Force, you're going to need an AI foundation made up of those 3 things. So that all comes out of thinking about cash flow.
So I think that we have clarity around where we're going. And Robin, why don't we talk about exactly how you're going to execute that?
Well, I think you summed it up well, Marc, in terms of the trinity. We're balanced. We have a disciplined M&A framework. We're going to be opportunistic. We've clearly made a big bet on Informatica. That's our large acquisition. But as you said, we're going to be -- particularly as it comes to the agentic stage, if we see other things out there that make sense we're going to buy them. Our strong free cash flow allows us to do that. But we also will stay disciplined relative to returning value to shareholders. Maybe we'll move to the next question, Mike.
Your next question will come from Kirk Materne at Evercore.
I think this one is here for Marc or Miguel. But these 2 quarters in a row you've mentioned the [indiscernible] closed business has been pretty strong. And as we think about AI doing more work on the behalf of customers, I was kind of curious just as your view of whether the mid-market become more of a source of durable growth for you all as we look out over the next few years. Marc, you mentioned that in relation to the ITSM opportunity. Just kind of curious about what you're seeing in the mid-market and if this can sort of be a more expansive opportunity for you all as we look out? .
Well, I really appreciate that question, and it's very much a corridor strategy and has been for 26 years, but we don't really talk about it as aggressively as we should. And so I think there might have been a point of confusion. So let me just help provide some clarification, which is that, unlike other enterprise software companies, we're extremely committed to what we call our 5 segment strategy. And the 5 segment strategy, maybe 6, I'll say, but let's say, our 5 segment strategy, I'll lay what is.
But really is 5 segment strategy is, number one, hey, we love enterprises. And we love the biggest enterprises. And we used a lot of big enterprise names, Fortune 100 names on this call. We love those customers. They're great. We love them. They're very profitable. It's a fantastic segment to be in.
But it's not the only segment of business. Small and medium business, which are kind of like 0 to 200 employee companies, we're extremely strong in, we always have been. We have products that are extremely relevant for them, including our sales and service products and core products, but even Slack and others. And the SMB 0 to 200 business is way stronger right now than we've ever seen it.
I think that part of the reason why that is, is because AI makes every entrepreneur a super entrepreneur and AI makes every SMB business look more like a mid-market business. So all of a sudden, you move from the 0 to 200 segment into the next segment, which call it 200 to 2,000 or 200 to 3,000 employees. But as you kind of get into that next segment of the business world, these are businesses that are starting to grow up, have real revenue, need real systems. They look like real companies. They don't have tens of employees; they have hundreds of employees. They have now thousands of employees.
And those companies, they need real software, too, but they don't have CIOs. They don't have DIY. They need prepackaged software and they're not really dealing with the hyperscalers or the large-scale SIs. They're dealing with us. We are their hyperscaler. We are their software hyperscaler. We're not -- we're -- they look to us as a company like that they might look to a super big company might have every option. These companies don't have a [ real option ]. And this is a huge segment of the market.
The next part of the market is kind of the traditionally called general business market or high end of the mid-market business, which could be like anywhere from a couple of thousand employees to maybe 5,000 or 6,000 employees. And this also is an extremely fast-growing part of the business. Now I cannot tell you why, but we see it, and Miguel and I talk about it almost every day, that not only SMB business, but this mid-market and general business is growing super fast. And when I talk to my friends who run the large SIs, I've been encouraging them to move their business downstream to serve these companies that have single-digit thousand companies, call it, employees. So that is in the 1,000 to 10,000 employees.
Because what happens is, all of a sudden, when you get into the next segment, which is segment, call it, Segment 4, you get into the big boys, the big companies, the Fortune 100, 200, Fortune 500 companies who have the tens of thousands of company employees and they have maybe more options, but -- and bigger budgets. And it's very exciting when you close one of these because you end up with some kind of mega transaction. But they're going through a lot of transformation because they're being pitched a lot of different technology right now. And a lot of it is fantasy land. But just -- it's all going to play out in its own way in Segment 4.
Segment 5, it's the government. I think we all know that the government has been going through something that none of us have ever seen before in the last 6 months. And we all understand the DOGE revolution and we're all watching that closely, and that is something that we're -- now the government is coming out of and is starting to acquire like we talked about our Army transaction on the call.
And Segment 6 is really ISVs. And every ISV and ecosystem is going through a huge transformation as well. And we see that in our app exchange, but we probably have the most vibrant ecosystem in the world, which is Slack. If you haven't been on Slack to see what's happening on Slack, it's not just the ecosystem, all these next-generation AI companies ranging from OpenAI to Anthropic to everyone are on Slack. And it is incredible how they've used that as their operating system and as their platform to run their companies.
And then we're really bringing all of our core products down into Slack so that everything is Slack-first. It's a term I used in the script, the idea that you'll be able to start Sales Cloud and start Service Cloud and all of our products even our new ITSM product from Slack first and then move up. And I think that's very exciting, and you'll see all of that play out at Dreamforce. A lot of that gets released in our October release.
And Miguel, do you want to just fill in what I'm talking about?
Yes. Well, Kirk, you asked Marc's favorite question. So thank you for that. But listen, we are adding a lot of capacity to our business, AE capacity. At the end of Q2, we had added 20% more AEs than we did last year. Obviously, it takes 6 to 18 months for those AEs to ramp. On the low end of the market, actually, they ramp faster. But we have a man that is grow what is growing. And today, we see that the low end of the market and the mid-market is growing significantly.
And it's growing significantly for 2 reasons. One is these customers want to become agentic enterprises. And they don't have chief digital officers, they don't have CTOs, they don't have the complexity. They need a trusted partner where they bring the data, they bring the AI, embedding the applications, and they're buying faster than anything we've seen.
We also made some organizational changes. We brought the old Salesforce model back. We brought people to hubs. We hire faster, we enable faster. The second reason it's growing a lot is because AI is creating more small and medium companies. So that opportunity is huge and that's why we're investing significantly. We're investing significantly more in the mid and low end of the market. We're investing in the high end of the market. We're also growing double-digit in capacity in the high end of the market. But by the way, there are many other areas where we are investing and that we are seeing are having already impact in accelerating bookings.
I see the pipeline into H2. Pipeline is growing in the high teens. And for big deals, it's actually approaching 20% growth. That's a really good sign. We haven't seen that kind of pipeline in a long time. The agentic enterprise is really the next incredible investment cycle. And I think we are, as we've discussed here, we have the right solver infrastructure to monetize this massive opportunity. Our innovation keeps giving us, so thank you, Srini; thank you, Steve, I mean this is an embarrassment of riches. When you look at the products that we're going to release in Q3: Agent Force [ Voice ], Tableau Next, Marketing Cloud Next just released recently. We just certified Agent Force and Data Cloud for government. That's going to be a monster opportunity for us.
Life science cloud, we are killing VIVA in many other -- in their turf. ITSM, Mark alluded to it, new agent fabric, partner cloud. All that is more products for our increased capacity to sell. And I'm not even including Informatica. And new packaging, new pricing to monetize and make it simpler for customers to absorb this amazing innovation.
And as Marc and Robin and Srini said earlier, we have more and more agent force and data cloud customers. They bring shorter sales cycles. It's create and close. We've closed 40% of the ACV that we closed in Q2, just came from create and close, short call cycles on Data Cloud and Agent Force to existing customers. So these are tangible examples of what we are doing now to accelerate the growth. And obviously, the low end of the market is great, but we are seeing growth everywhere.
Your next question will come from Mark Murphy with JPMorgan.
Marc, we've heard software companies say that they have held their head count flat in their support organizations. We haven't heard anyone saying that they reduced head count by close to 40% there like you have. I'm curious, what do you think is holding other software companies back from seeing that kind of breakthrough? And then as you repurpose those sales roles in -- excuse me, the support roles more into sales roles, what type of firepower do you see that giving you to try to drive some of the incremental top line growth that you referred to about 90 days ago?
Mark, it's a great question, and let me just say this number one. In our industry, people always overestimate what you can do in a year and underestimate what we can do in a decade. And it's hard for everybody to get their head around what's possible. We're sitting up here at the top of Salesforce Tower and looking at Mt [ Diablo ]. But if you were at Telegraph Hill and you're at Mama's Restaurant right now, you'd still be in San Francisco, but you wouldn't be able to see Mt. [ Diablo ]. Maybe we just have a little more clarity from where we sit. .
But we can see crystal clear that Salesforce has the opportunity to do exactly what you're saying, which is to reduce everybody's support cost to make everyone's sales organization a lot more productive to make everyone's marketing have a much higher ROI to make every field service technician, a super man or super woman and to make every Slack user far more empowered in their organization than ever before, and I could go on and on and on.
And why others are not doing this yet is I think there's -- maybe it's threefold. One is timing, like I'm saying. Two, it could just be there's a lot of nonsense, kind of to Kash's point, which I think Kash said it really well, which is like there are very smart people in our industry and other executives who are saying absolute nonsense. And I don't understand why they're saying this nonsense. Maybe it's just to create a certain level of [ FUD ] in the market. But I think it's inappropriate at this point and what it's done for the whole enterprise software industry, I think, is crazy.
And I would say the third thing is fear. Because I think with fear, all of a sudden, as soon as you start to say, "I'm going to make some dramatic change," but let me make one thing crystal clear, which is that the agentic enterprise, unlike every other kind of technology value proposition that we've kind of profitized for the last 26 years, the one big difference is not only is it a radical technology transformation, as I articulated, humans and agents working together. It's also a radically different organizational transformation involving what the structure of your company looks like.
And you probably saw that we just put out a press release that we're restructuring our company. And everyone is like saying to me, why are you doing that? What are you doing about this? What are you doing about that? You're making this change. Yes, we're taking out poor performers; we do that every year. But we're doing something else that's much more important we're becoming an agentic enterprise. We realize that the opportunity at hand for us and for everyone and for everyone on this call is to build a radically new kind of company, a more profitable company, a higher revenue company, a company with better performing marketing programs, more productive employees, much more augmented customer opportunities and employee opportunities. This idea that we're going to radically impact and change how companies are shaped and operate, we're not just going to build the software, it's the software and it's the structure.
I've been on the road for 8 weeks and I'm just back after meeting with hundreds of customers, primarily in Europe. And in each and every single one, it's a complex transformation, not just from the software side but also from the human management, what we call change management side. I'm sure you're all familiar with the term change management. And so I'll just tell you like I was with one of our customers that I love, which is Adecco, which is this incredible recruiting company. And they're -- I'm sitting with the CEO and they're in France, Miguel is with me and we're having a great conversation, and the CIO is from Switzerland, and we're all sitting there and the -- each person is from a different part of Europe, and we're having a very robust conversation. But they're rebuilding their whole business model, they're technology model, they're rebuilding their whole company around this idea.
In another case, we then drove to Schneider, who's been a customer of ours for like, I think, 20 years. And we've been -- known 3 or 4 Schneider CEOs, and I -- the new CEO, Olivier, is amazing. I had dinner with him in Dubai and now I'm seeing him again in Paris, and we're just talking about this. And I realize my job is to inspire and to energize and motivate and to fundamentally show the vision of what is possible for the future of software itself for him.
And for him, it's really exciting because he not only is going to rebuild this company, but he can also rebuild the software that he builds and delivers to his customers. And then we went up to -- I got on the plane literally, I'm just recalling my trip in my head right now, up to Amsterdam to talk to some of the banks up there. And we went through this agentic enterprise vision with our Financial Services Cloud and how we've rebuilt this product and what -- and I'm with the CEO and the management team, and the CEO stops me at the end of the meeting, he goes, I just want to tell you, this has been a great 2 hours, but we took our entire Board meeting yesterday to only talk about what the potential is for agentic capability at our bank. And I think in each and every case, every company is going to go through this dramatic transformation. Now there will be vendors that lay out what they think is the future. And they could say, "Well, we're going to give you this large language model in your" -- I'm not going to go through the specific different models. But at the productivity level. Or we're going to give you just a large language model, or we're going to do this for you. But I haven't found anyone other than Salesforce. And I will say maybe there's a couple of other peers of ours who then can come in at scale, but I think we're the only one who's rebuilt every single one of our product line because I am super passionate that all of our products need to change and all of our customers need to adopt this and that we are going to do it through a whole different kind of business strategy.
And this is just a moment where if you can't feel or see what's about to happen, it is incredible. And it's not just about some kind of foundation model is now officially taking over every enterprise, because I've been to every customer on planet earth, I haven't seen that. But what I have seen is that, like in my own company, if you haven't seen it, come over, I'm going to show to you myself, that you can do things in a company that you could not do before, and it's all possible. And you can do a lot of things.
But one last thing, you cannot do everything. And folks that think that you can do everything or that this AGI is this and now AGI is getting recast, AGI. AGI used to be -- AGI is, let's say, the AI that basically is able to reinvent itself and build new models on its own. Okay?
So anyone who says, now, well, AGI is just a version of a model that can now not only code but then refactor software. It's not -- everyone is trying to recast AGI because of a lot of aggressive comments about AGI from a few years ago. So let's just come back here, it's now being recast as super intelligence, the reality is you can -- you see these large language models are actually hitting the upper limits of their existence. They are themselves finite data sets built on the Internet built on finite set of algorithms, and we can see what those are and what they are not. There's no question about that. okay? But that idea that they're valuable, yes, you can use them, coupled with enterprise software to do some incredible things.
Operator, we'll take our last question please.
Your final question will come from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.
Perfect. Just to wrap it all up together. If you think about it, you have more sales guys, as Miguel said, the agents should help you to get more productive. What does that tell me about your confidence about the growth outlook going forward? Could be a short answer.
Well, I think that Miguel was actually putting together a pretty compelling narrative around what we think is happening inside of our own company. And you can see it in the numbers if you look closely enough, they're pretty exciting. And this is not a company in crisis. This is a company that is accelerating and doing things in new ways, has it going through a huge innovation cycle, is innovating organically and inorganically and has incredible levels of customer success.
But there is something bigger than that. I'll just let get Miguel repeat what he said before because it was so subtle but yet so important because it's our growth ladder and it's our narrative on why we think we're going to see some incredible growth over the next 6 to 8 quarters.
Yes. Thank you, Marc. I think, Raimo, you're thinking more about how the booking acceleration might flow through the top line revenues. Robin already alluded to that. My focus is accelerating bookings. I'm very happy with the execution of my team. I'm very positive about what is coming ahead, not just in H2, but also what is coming in the next fiscal year. We're already thinking about the next fiscal year.
We wouldn't be investing at the rate that we are investing with very -- a lot of intentionality in the areas that are growing, in the areas that have higher margin if we didn't see a great opportunity. We are sitting with Agent Force and Data Cloud in thousands of customers. I'm already seeing customers that have refilled the time, we call it refill the time when they come back and buy more data or more Agent Force credit. There is a customer that in just 3 or 4 months, they refilled the tank 3 times. I gave you the example of Falabella.
When we have thousands of customers, and we're going to have billions, billions of agents working, this is digital labor, at scale, working in thousands of companies, just consuming, just operating, just driving value to the customers, and customers are going to need more credit, more fuel, and I see a bright future. The bookings are very strong and I'm very confident in the future of the company.
I appreciate everyone joining the call today. And I want to remind everyone to tune into our product innovation webinar on Friday. We'll have a session focused on Agent Force adoption and Customer 0. We look forward to seeing you all then in over the coming weeks. Thank you.
Thank you for joining. This does conclude today's call. You may now disconnect.
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Salesforce — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
Salesforce — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $10,24 Mrd. (+10% YoY (Jahr‑über‑Jahr); +9% in konstanten Währungen)
- Non‑GAAP OM: 34,3% (Non‑GAAP Operating Margin)
- CRPO: $29,4 Mrd. (+11% YoY; Current Remaining Performance Obligation)
- Data & AI ARR: $1,2 Mrd. (+120% YoY; ARR = Annual Recurring Revenue)
- Agent Force: >6.000 bezahlte Deals, 12.500+ gesamt; 40% der Q2‑Neubuchungen von Bestandskunden; Pilot→Produktion +60% QoQ
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Agentic‑Strategie: Salesforce positioniert sich als Plattform für die "agentic enterprise" – KI‑Agenten nativ in Sales, Service, Commerce, Tableau, Slack.
- Data Cloud‑Zentralität: Data Cloud als "AI‑Foundation" und strategisches Wachstumsgeschäft (~$7 Mrd.), wichtig für Genauigkeit der Agenten.
- Operative Disziplin: Fokus auf profitablem Wachstum, Portfolio‑Priorisierung und Mischung aus Buybacks, Dividende und gezielter M&A.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Jahresziele: FY‑'26 Revenue raised to $41,1–41,3 Mrd. (≈+8,5–9% YoY); non‑GAAP OM auf 34,1% (erhöht)
- Cash & Q3: OCF‑Ziel nahe $15 Mrd.; Q3 Revenue $10,24–10,29 Mrd.; erwarteter FX‑Tailwind ~$300 Mio.
- Hinweis: Beitrag von Informatica nicht in Guidance eingerechnet; Risiken: Timing der Monetarisierung von Agent Force/Data Cloud und schwächere Segmente (Marketing, Commerce, bestimmte Länder).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- SaaS vs. AI‑Native: Analysten fragten zur Defensibilität von SaaS; Management sieht AI als Erweiterung von SaaS, nicht als Ersatz.
- Pilot→Produktion: Nachfrage nach Gründen für +60% Conversion – Antwort: Produkt‑Härten (Agent Force Command Center), deterministische Agenten, tiefe Data Cloud‑Integration und Field‑Engineering.
- Kapitalallokation: Fragen zur $20 Mrd. Buyback‑Erweiterung vs. M&A; Management betont "Trinität" Buybacks/Dividende/M&A, bleibt opportunistisch.
⚡ Bottom Line
Q2 lieferte ein beat mit erhöhter Guidance: Salesforce setzt klar auf Agent Force und Data Cloud als Wachstumshebel und erweitert Kapitalrückkäufe. Positiv für Aktionäre sind starke Margen und Cashflow; kritisch bleibt das Timing der Monetarisierung, die Integration (Informatica) und die operative Umsetzung der agentic‑Transformation.
Finanzdaten von Salesforce
Umsatz
Der Umsatz stellt die Summe aller Einnahmen eines Unternehmens z. B. für dessen Produkte oder Dienstleistungen dar.
Umsatz (TTM) einfach erklärtDirekte Kosten
Direkte Kosten sind die Kosten, die direkt im Zusammenhang mit der Herstellung des Produkts oder der Dienstleistung entstehen.
Bruttoertrag
Der Bruttoertrag gibt an, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellkosten im Unternehmen verbleibt. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von der Bruttomarge (engl. Gross Margin).
Brutto Marge einfach erklärtVertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten
Die Vertriebs- & Verwaltungskosten (engl. Selling, General & Administrative expenses, kurz SG&A) beinhalten alle Aufwände für Marketing und den Verkauf sowie die allgemeine Verwaltung des Unternehmens.
Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten
Die Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten (engl. research & development costs, kurz R&D) geben Auskunft darüber, wie viel das Unternehmen in die Forschung und die Entwicklung seiner Produkte investiert. Vor allem prozentual vom Umsatz und im Vergleich zu direkten Wettbewerbern sind die Kosten interessant.
EBITDA
Das EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization) ist der Gewinn des Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von der EBITDA-Marge.
Abschreibungen
Abschreibungen stellen Wertminderungen von Vermögensgegenständen des Unternehmens dar (z.B. durch Abnutzung von Maschinen).
EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis)
Das EBIT (engl. Earnings Before Interest and Taxes) ist der Gewinn des Unternehmens vor Zinsen und Steuern, das auch als operatives Ergebnis bezeichnet wird. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von
der EBIT-Marge.
Nettogewinn
Der Nettogewinn stellt den Gewinn oder Verlust nach Abzug aller Kosten dar.
Nettogewinn einfach erklärtaktien.guide Basis
| Jul '26 |
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%
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| Umsatz | 43.938 43.938 |
11 %
11 %
100 %
|
|
| - Direkte Kosten | 9.982 9.982 |
13 %
13 %
23 %
|
|
| Bruttoertrag | 33.956 33.956 |
11 %
11 %
77 %
|
|
| - Vertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten | 17.000 17.000 |
9 %
9 %
39 %
|
|
| - Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten | 6.366 6.366 |
11 %
11 %
14 %
|
|
| EBITDA | 10.590 10.590 |
14 %
14 %
24 %
|
|
| - Abschreibungen | 1.137 1.137 |
24 %
24 %
3 %
|
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| EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis) EBIT | 9.453 9.453 |
13 %
13 %
22 %
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| Nettogewinn | 9.662 9.662 |
45 %
45 %
22 %
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