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Good afternoon, everyone, or, I guess, good morning for many of you. Thank you all for joining us today. My name is Scott Schmitz with Investor Relations here at SailPoint, and we are very excited to show you all the highlights from our Navigate conference last week, which was a great event. But, before I get started, a little bit of housekeeping. Today's presentation and discussion are strictly reserved for research analysts, shareholders, and members of the financial investment community. If you do not fall into these categories, please disconnect from the webcast at this time.

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So, with that, our agenda today is fairly simple. Chandra, our EVP of Product and Chief Technology Officer, will recap key messages from Navigate. And then, in the spirit of showing versus telling, Levent and Dan will demo the platform. And, for Q&A, the chat function is enabled. So, please type your questions as we go, and we'll aggregate and address at the end. So, with that, let me turn it over to Chandra.

Thank you, Scott, and welcome, everyone, to the Superintelligence Security briefing, is a way I would describe it. So, look, we are at AGI, and I think-- or at least near AGI. And, I think this is a pretty important context for the conversation today because the speed at which these machines are operating, the scale, and the complexity all is being driven by the fact that we are at or near AGI. So, with that, I'll really start with what are the key messages that we really delivered last week and that we would like you to take away today.

One is, look, given we are at AGI, you can't really solve or you can't really secure AI by having human in the loop all the time, and I'll kind of walk you through more in detail. But-- so, we announced our Autonomous Agents vision, a class of red, blue, and green agents. I'll talk to you more about it, but that was a big announcement last week. We delivered and announced the very first operational identity platform that can truly deliver least and zero standing privilege. This has been an ideology for about 20, 25 years, getting to least privilege and zero standing privilege as really the true north of being very secure. There's never been an operational platform that delivered it. With what we GAed at Black Hat and what we announced last week, the combination is the very first operational platform, both for human and for AI.

Atlas, which is our platform that is the core service layer that underpins everything we do. We have completely rewired it. I'll walk you through the changes. We have also made Atlas extensible, and because our platform has got to be extensible. So, we announced some major capabilities around plug-ins and application builder, a marketplace. And, in fact, we conducted a hackathon with 250 to 300 developers, hugely, hugely successful on using Atlas extensibility. We have continued to innovate on the core that are -- because we have more than 2,000 cloud customers. And so, the core innovation has been going just as fast as these other things.

And lastly, on the operational side, we announced a few new regions, support for things around EU sovereign cloud, FedRAMP High, as well as a completely-- we showed a completely reimagined user experience. So, those are the key messages that you should be taking away by the time we are done today.

So, I want to start with how we are solving the problem. The foundation is really solving it as a human plus AI problem because you can't really have two platforms, one for human, one for AI, anymore. You have to solve both of this in the same place, which is what we are doing. And, when you really introduce AI into the mix, right, you have speed, right, machine speed. And so, you have to be -- so, the platform has to be real time, and you have to be in line with threats.

And, on the scale side, we have done the math. We are beginning to see this in our platform already. There are somewhere between 75 million to 150 million agentic interactions a day at any of our large customers. Think of a Global 2000 corporation. When you give an agent a task, it calls multiple LLMs, APIs, data, and so on. When you do the math on all of that, it's about-- it's like somewhere close to 100 million interactions a day. At that scale, it's not just the scale, it's the topology and the complexity of those interactions, the surface areas that you have to deal with.

This concept of Zero Trust, which was really invented 20 years ago for the human world, will no longer work. This is why we announced our vision for autonomous identity. And, we were very, very excited to launch our SailPoint autonomous agents. And, we really describe them in 3 classes, right, to really simplify this. So-- and, it's not like one red, one blue, and one green agent. It's a class of red agents, a class of blue agents, and a class of green agents.

Let me really bring this to life for you because we kind of showed our vision around about 10 of these, right? So-- but, let me really bring this to life. A red agent, a good example is, let's say, you are on PTO, you have a bunch of agents working on your behalf. You have a Microsoft Copilot agent that's taking some notes in the meetings that your teams are doing. And, you might have an Agentforce agent inside Salesforce and a cloud agent built by you on top of Google Cloud. Now, what if those agents are accessing data that they were not supposed to that you don't have permission for, right? This is what a red agent will catch. It will basically say, wait a second, this agent is accessing data, critical data that its human owner was not even supposed to access. And, while they are on PTO, this doesn't look right. A red agent will catch that.

A blue agent, now, is actually a defensive agent. A red agent is an offensive agent. A blue agent will be like, oh, okay, it looks like the red agent found something. Let me go do further diagnosis on this. And, if it actually determines there was a breach, it will stop that breach. Like, meaning, if this agent that is working on your behalf is accessing critical data that it's not supposed to, a blue agent will automatically stop it.

Now, a green agent is what we call a peacetime agent. A good example is automating certification. So, look, our customers, these are the large ones, the complex ones. When they run a certification campaign today, even just on the human side, not even including AI side, a lot of them have between 5 million, 8 million, 10 million line items in a cert campaign, right? And, just that's huge complexity. Our contention is 95% of that should be automated because you should -- we are moving to policy-based governance, in a policy-based world, you should be able to apply intelligence and automate 95%. That's what a green agent does, right?

And so, it's not just a vision. We announced that we will be launching a few of these at least in the next few months. And, in fact, last week at Navigate, we signed up one of the largest banks in the world as a design partner to actually build and deliver on the green certification agent by like the December, January time frame. So, we are quite excited. This was extremely, extremely well received.

Now, look, the reality of today is 99% of the world is in standing privilege, right? So, it's going to take a journey to go from where we are today to get to autonomous identity. That's why going through least and zero standing privilege is critical. This is why our announcement with what we GAed at Black Hat and what we announced last week, we are the very first operational platform that can truly deliver on least and zero standing privilege.

Now-- we spoke to you-- I walked you through this exact picture on Investor Day. I think many or most of you would have been there. As well as at Black Hat, we announced a lot of this or we generally made these available. So, what I'm going to do in the next few minutes is really give you a glimpse of what's new that we announced last week so that you know what's coming. I'm not going to rehash what is already in the market because we have talked with you about that already.

So -- and, the first of the newness I'm going to talk about -- sorry, I'll stop here, right, which is, look, the SailPoint value proposition across both Agentic and the human side is Discover, Govern, and Protect. On Investor Day and at Black Hat, I actually talked about Protect, and I said this is -- Protect is where all the runtime controls are, right? This was extremely well received last week. And, in fact, there was a massive reinforcement that the world is sort of moving from doing discovery to really wanting to act on things they are finding and starting to do audit and governance, which is under Govern. And so, this was extremely well received.

But, I also want to say because there continues to be a question about when SailPoint says runtime controls, how does it play with other IDP players, right? It could be an Okta, it could be a Microsoft Entra, or things so on. What they do is the IDPs do authentication, right? And so, both for human and for AI. So, they are really the front office or the front gate, right, or the front door. Once they come in, what we have done now is with all the runtime controls, we have actually introduced another gate, right, and which is what we call a policy decision point, right? And so, in the flow of traffic, so you can get authenticated and get token exchange, and a policy decision point will actually evaluate the risk of that access, right, and determine whether even though you have the right credentials for accessing a critical piece of data, whether or not you should at this moment, right? That's what a policy decision point does. So, Protect, there are 5 runtime controls. And, this is a big deal because you want to have Discover, Govern, and Protect in the same platform. You don't want them in different platforms.

So, in terms of newness, right, let me quickly give you a sense and then Levent and Dan will actually show you. So, as you know, we acquired Entro about 90 days now. I'm thrilled to be announcing the SailPoint Agentic Fabric, and Entro will be completely integrated come November and the fully integrated product will be generally available. And, at least in my experience and our experience, this is one of the fastest software integrations you will see. We have been very, very ambitious here given the pace of innovation in the market, we wanted to make sure that we had one product that actually brought everything together. So, come November, this -- the fully integrated product will be generally available.

On the SailPoint Agentic Fabric, there were a number of net new innovations we announced. Let me give you my own personal favorites and Levent and Dan will walk you through it. On the Discover side, the main message that we delivered was really -- or what we announced was around posture, autonomous posture. And, I'll tell you, look, we have 20-plus real-time signals through which we calculate a SailPoint risk score and get posture. Now, the main differentiating part of the SailPoint posture relative to everyone else in the world is the fact that we can actually act on the posture. So, it's not just, hey, there is an exposed credential. Our platform will allow you to go rotate the credential or delete it, right? And so, you can act on the vulnerabilities you find. That's a main differentiator.

On the governance side, we are bringing certification for agents and human together. This is a big deal, right? You can no longer certify either human or an agent without knowing who's or the human or the agent associated with them and what they have access to. So, we are bringing the certification experience for human and agent together in one platform.

On the Protect side, we are really delivering on just in time. There are on top of -- it's not like we have 4, 5 controls in the market today. We have added more depth and expanded the surface area, right? So, all around just-in-time, real-time authorization. And, the main advancement we announced last week and a ton of customer excitement was all around the ability to do real-time authorization to fine-grained data. And, the way we are doing it is through integration with all the big data cloud platforms, be it Snowflake, Databricks, BigQuery, and so on as well as all the existing DSPM providers, right? So, Cyera to Proofpoint, right, Varonis, right? So, if a customer has already done classification and has policy on data in those DSPM, DLP providers, we will automatically integrate with them, grab that context and map it to the identity context, right? And so, those were the things that we talked -- sorry, we announced and my personal favorites.

On the human fabric side, I think, in fact, I would characterize our innovation on the human fabric side to be just as rich actually as what we have done on the agent side. On the Discover front, one of the things that I am personally most excited about is we are really bringing the element of risk and posture to humans, right? So -- and, this is a big deal. So, now in our platform, if you go to the SailPoint human fabric, for every human, you will have a risk score. And, the risk score is not what they are supposed to access, what they are accessing at the very moment, now, in actually real time and the risk associated with that access, right? And so, this is a huge advancement.

On Govern, we introduced -- we announced effective privilege. This is a huge deal because what you have access to is not what -- not just what is granted to you. It's all of the indirectly what you inherit through all the groups and roles you are part of, right? And, it's always been there. It's been a hidden problem. And, the kind of world got away with it because at human speed, you couldn't really find these things. But, these machines are running around and finding all this indirect access, and they are becoming a major risk vector, right, a breach vector. And, that's why now when we show an access graph in SailPoint's identity graph, you will see not only what the granted privilege is, but also the effective privileges. And, we announced on Protect, not just JIT, but doing just-in-time authorization with policy, continuous evaluation and so on. So, that's quickly what to expect. And, Dan will give you a glimpse of it.

On Atlas, like I said, I think massive innovations, right? So, there are 4 layers of Atlas where we have completely reinvented. One is the data model, right? We realized you can't solve this AI problem without, really, completely redoing the data model. So, we have really redone the data model to be from human to human plus AI. We have built a whole context and intelligence layer with the risk engine and intent engine as well as all of the privilege classification we are doing because that's the foundation for doing just in time. And, the policy engine, the policy engine is core to actually us being the policy decision point, right? And so, that is a net new innovation we announced. And, the enforcement layer where we are the dynamic provisioning engine as well as the ability to respond right away from the SOC. So, that's quickly what we announced in Atlas.

Melissa, why don't we just go to the user experience because I just -- I'm being mindful of the time. I just want to get through this. Look, for the longest time, the feedback has been like our capabilities are actually very good. The user experience needed some work, right? And, we have heard it. About 9 months ago, we went and got a world-class designer to actually lead our design team. And, he has done an incredible job, he and his team. So, we announced and sort of unveiled a bunch of our newer -- the new SailPoint experience on both the agent side as well as the human side. And, it's not just the look and feel. We have taken a fundamentally different approach. It's all about -- our UI is now not just about who has access to what, not just intelligence, but the ability to act on it, right?

And so, a very action-oriented UI. We also think the users are expanding. It's not just an administrator or a practitioner, it's every business user. So, we're also driving more of a consumerization of our user experience -- excuse me, I'm fighting a little cold. But, look, hopefully, that gave you a glimpse of what we announced last week. I know I went through it quickly, but -- what I want to do is hand it over to my good friend and colleague, Levent, our Chief Product Officer, who will actually show you some of the innovations we launched on the Agentic side. Levent, please.

All right. Thank you, Chandra. Hi, folks. Really excited to show you the product that we just talked about in action. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you through our Agentic capabilities or Agentic fabric. I'm going to walk you how a security professional and an administrator can discover, govern, and protect their agents, their non-human identities, their credentials, their secrets -- through our capabilities. And then, I'm going to hand it over to Dan, our VP of Product for our human fabric. He's going to walk you through our capabilities and all the innovations that we've done across the board on the human side.

So, I'm going to start with our Agentic overview. This is where a security administrator when they launch our Agentic fabric would land. Here, they can see all the agents that they have, right, all the unsanctioned AI, those AI platforms that maybe were not approved by the administrator beforehand, all the agents without owners, some major basically critical risks here that they want to know about, right, in numbers and all the NHIs that they have. The risk widget here shows you the critical, very well organized and sort of critical, high, and other findings here. You can see in one quick snapshot.

A critical attack vector has been in both the frontier model exploits, but also in general in the cyber attacks lately, has been exposed credentials. These are the credentials that, for some shape or form, leaked either publicly or in the places that are publicly available or accessible to other customers or other users. So, you can quickly see all your exposed credentials here that we have detected also sorted by criticality. And, this is basically just a great dashboard that gives you like a quick glimpse of your landscape, the top risks, the top pieces that you have to pay attention to.

We have risky AI agents here again. We -- one of our key capabilities is behavioral monitoring. We monitor the agents and their behavior as well as NHI and their use in almost near real time to see the spikes in their activity. I'll show you more about this in detail in a second. So, we have some great data here about what we found, some of the anomalies that maybe we flagged, and some really useful information here that you can see in a dashboard.

But, let me dig in to a little more detail about what we actually show. So, let's start with the agent inventory. Now, our inventory is aimed to be the single source of truth across all your digital landscape. We have multiple, as Chandra said, we have multiple detectors and sensors. We plug into the platforms. We have thousands of connectors, first of all. And then, in addition to that, we plug into all the top AI platforms, all the critical SaaS platforms that are used in enterprise that you can imagine as well as, of course, we have our own sensors on the endpoint. So, we can detect any kind of endpoint agent activity ourselves as well as on the web browser. So, we have a very great, easy-to-deploy centralized web browser plug-in that basically detects any kind of user and agent interaction.

Now, that's very critical because that means that we can basically detect the full life cycle of an agent and their use of NHI from beginning to end from the point that the user maybe prompted an agent with a specific task where we can understand the intent and how it's planning its activity all the way to actually accessing the resource and executing the mission. And, all along, we can track all that activity and detect behaviors, right? So, let me show you how we do that here.

So, here, for instance, let's -- these are all our agent inventory. Let's click on one of these. So, here, very quickly, you can see who owns this agent, what are the other users or owners that does this. This was clearly a Cursor agent that was discovered in endpoint. It's accessing AWS. So, let's look at the critical actually insight that our customers love, which is the lineage, the usage and the lineage of this agent. So, here, you can see Ella Pitters created this agent on her local MacBook Pro. It was a Cursor agent. And, some interesting things, right? Like so, this agent is using multiple identities. We caught all of them, right? There's a service account here, there's a token here that we kind of created. And, you can also see what these agents and through these identities are accessing to. So, in this case, it's a very interesting, right? Like it's accessing a storage, S3 storage account. It has access to Figma, the design system. It has a production SQL database. So, these are some really high-privileged access that this agent has through Cursor.

So-- and, that's why it was-- if you look at it, it was probably ranked as critical, right? So, let's kind of go dig into further though here, right? So, we can look at the access graph of this agent. So, we -- the lineage showed you what it did. The access graph shows what it has access to. That also goes into our risk calculation. So, you can see the full access graph of what this agent can do. You can zoom and slice and dice and understand that. And, you can see the identities that are using it, the accounts that are associated with it.

But, here's the most important tab, I would say. We have a dedicated risk tab here for this agent. We figured out the top issues that this agent has demonstrated and classified those risks. In this case, this agent was using an unclassified, unsanctioned MCP server. So, that means that you have capabilities that you, the administrator probably didn't know about. That could be dangerous. It's an unsanctioned platform. So, that's clearly another risk factor. The human owner was confirmed, but the ownership was -- is not exactly -- the classification is exactly matching the behavior. So, some really great details here that you can see right after that.

And, here's another critical piece here, and this is the behavior. So, I talked about our abnormal behavior detection. This is basically that in action. You can see on this graph, all the sessions and activity that this agent has done over time. And, when there were specific things like, for instance, in the very first one, it was an unsanctioned agent platform that we saw that. And, then it was accessing -- it did a spike in its planning for a specific activity. All of these basically got flagged on our abnormal behavior detection. And, that figured into the high-risk severity. So, we already kind of found out from the very get-go that, hey, look, this is a very high-risk agent, accessing production systems, consumption platform, you don't want this.

So, again, as Chandra said, this is not just a discovery platform. This is an action platform. So, you can very easily take action on this. And, you can create policies to, first of all, block this action, I'll show you how. But, in this very moment, we know that this agent has to go, so we can just simply say, deactivate and deactivate an agent, and that will be done. It's as easy as that, okay? So, that's the power of this platform. You can deactivate and take action in a moment. That's our kill switch that we have here.

Now, let me move on in the interest of time here. We talked about -- a lot about agents and how we detect it. But, the reality is agents use credentials and equally important to manage and govern and protect other credentials. And, here, we can see all the credentials that your landscape has. You can slice and dice them by idle ones, by exposed ones, maybe ones that are owned by former employees, that's a major flag that we should manage. Those ones that are privileged and you can easily go through those filters and either rotate them or take action on them. And -- but, more interesting about credentials and one of the top attack vectors, as we mentioned, especially the frontier model incidents exploited, was exposed credentials.

So, let's go there because this is one of the key areas that our -- when we do a POC, customers get surprised quite a bit about. They are so surprised, a, how they have way more agents and how they have way more credentials than they thought they have; and b, how many of those credentials are actually exposed, are not secured, or stale, or idle, or owned by former employees. So, this is the place that they would come to, in this case, exposed credentials, and they would take action on it.

So, for instance, in this case, let's take, for instance, this one, let's take a random one here. This was the AWS credential exposed on a Slack channel, right? You don't want that because Slack channels are not exactly safe places to expose the credentials. Again, you can see how that credential was used. In this case, it was another user, it was a Cursor agent and then that credential got used for much of other things. And, we can easily take action on this as well, as Chandra said, to rotate it or be deactivated.

So, that's basically our exposed credential. Now, to show, this was just one risk vector -- to really explore all the risks on your landscape, which is, again, one of the top areas that people are very curious about and get surprised when we do a POC with them, is the risk center. This is the place that they come to see all the top risks. Again, here, you can sort by critical risks and various type of filters here that we can go do abnormal -- abnormal activity for employees again. And, you can basically go ahead and easily see these risks and handle them as you see. You can see the details, all the connected services, all these pieces are here.

All right. So, now we talked a lot about activity of agents and NHI, the risks around them and how we can manage it, how we can govern and protect them. Let me focus into an area that is very critical for our customers, and that's audit and compliance. So, usually, audit and compliance is this ceremony that takes, in some cases, honestly, weeks to finish and months for some of our large, complicated customers. And, we really thought deep about how we can innovate here. How can we make their job easier, faster, quicker. And, we came up with a new innovation here that no other vendor has, which is pre-canned, easy-to-use audit reports that automatically run on a schedule that you would like.

So, here, we have basically covered most of the frameworks that our customers are trying to audit and comply to, like GDPR and HIPAA and the EU AI Act. And, the great thing about these is while we have these pre-canned reports that we can just simply export that just created the task, and that's going to basically be in progress, and it's going to be ready probably in a few minutes.

You can do this. You can export that, and you can also schedule these on a time basis. So, this is a great innovation that we added. Customers love it so much that, hey, I want this on the human side, too, so we're going to now unify our audit capability and create it on the human as well, these capabilities, and it's really been a very exciting capability for our customers. And, each of these are also customizable. So, if those pre-canned reports doesn't fit your needs, you can actually go ahead and create your own customized evidence reporting that's as easy to export.

All right. So, I'm mindful of the time here. Let me come to a very important protect capability, and that's our authorization -- agent authorization capabilities. So, one of the key things that customers, of course, face is once they discover an agent and their agents in their landscape, once they discover the NHI, the first thing they want to do is start putting guardrails. For instance, they can be very simple. They can be very complicated. We can do all of the guardrails that people want to create. But, for instance, one guardrail that people want to create is, hey, look, first, I'm deploying a coding agent for my developers. Obviously, those coding agents have some critical access to GitHub and other resources. I don't want that maybe to access -- I don't want that to be used by people in marketing department. We can do that, right? We have authorization policies that enable that. So, here, we have this policy center that enables you to create all these great policy types.

I'm going to show you a quick one here. In this case, for instance, we have another one that says, "Hey, look, I do not want our agents to send Slack messages, right, because you don't want to, maybe, spam the user or share credentials or anything like that. So, we can -- let's walk through this. This policy basically says, hey, make sure that Cloud Code, right, agent using any MCP servers, it could be a server, it could be a gateway. It doesn't matter. Whatever they use. Again, we enforce it on multiple layers, that's the power of SailPoint -- cannot send any Slack messages, right? And, remember that we can -- this is a very -- I notice that this is a very fine-grained policy. It just says do not send messages. You can still read messages on the platform with this policy. So, this one is enabled. That means you already have the protection. So, if I were now to create an agent that tried to create a Slack message, it would not work.

Now, I will -- so, that's a very quick glimpse of all the capabilities that we have on the SailPoint Agentic Fabric. We have way more than that. The time doesn't allow us to show it, but these are some of the top customer favorites. I'm going to hand it over to Dan Martillotti, our VP of Product for Human Fabric, where he's going to walk us through the innovations that we have on the human Agentic side or human fabric side.

Thanks, Levent. I'm going to go ahead and look at what we see from our Autonomous Identity security posture management that Chandra talked about earlier. It is the ability for somebody from a security and risk perspective to be able to see what's happening across their identity program for all types of identities, whether it be human identities or non-human identities, and look at a variety of posture dimensions to understand what's happening within the environment and what risk may exist.

Now, as Chandra mentioned earlier, the key thing around the posture management work that SailPoint is doing here is it's not just visibility, it's about remediation and action. So, when we identify where there is a potential issue within the system, we're going to use AI to be able to analyze the risk and provide you with a recommended remediation of that risk that you can then execute from within this single dashboard.

The other interesting thing about this whole program is as organizations are expanding their identity program and expanding the types of identities that they're governing, understanding their capability adoption of the program and how that impacts their ability to truly govern what's happening in their environment. So, this gives them some insights into the adoption of capabilities that they have across the SailPoint platform and how that impacts their potential risk posture.

Now, let's take a shift and look at an administrator and the work that they're doing to onboard entitlements into the identity program so that they can be properly governed. So, a couple of years ago, we rolled out the ability to create entitlement descriptions. And, the idea of entitlement descriptions are as an application owner, when I define the description of an entitlement, I do it from the perspective of an expert. And, it doesn't necessarily translate into descriptions that end users understand about that application.

So, we discovered -- we created capabilities to create descriptions, but now we've automated that process. So, when I onboard a new application and we discover new entitlements, we're going to automatically generate entitlement descriptions for all of those entitlements. As the administrator of the program, you can review those entitlement descriptions and make adjustments to them. But, now, by providing that level of context, when anybody needs to interact with the application, they have better understanding of what that entitlement grants access to.

Now, another view of this is looking at what we're doing from a privilege perspective. So, as you're onboarding new applications, being able to evaluate those entitlements and help you understand what is the privilege associated with each of those entitlements. Is it high privilege? Is it medium privilege and giving you the ability to make adjustments to that. We also talked earlier about this idea of effective privilege. So, I can see for a particular entitlement how that privileged severity was defined, and it can include the effective privilege that's associated with the embedded entitlements that are a part of that role. That's the power of the identity graph.

So, now we're going to transition to an end user who needs to request access. They need access to go in for themselves, and we've generated a new user experience where instead of having to go in and search for particular entitlements or know the name of something, we have a new Agentic experience where you can go in and interact with search and say, I need access to run payroll, for example. We're going to do an analysis of who the user is, what roles they have within the organization and make a recommendation for the role or the entitlement that they should request. So, this is a high privileged role, and it is also a just-in-time role. So, I'm going to add this to my request and submit it.

Now, what traditionally would happen is that entitlement or that role would be provisioned to the end user, and they would have standing access to go perform that task. Well, since this was a just-in-time privileged entitlement, we now have a launch pad that the user can go to. And, when they're ready to use that entitlement that they are preapproved for, they can click on start session.

That will be when we automatically provision the access for that particular item within the boundaries of policy associated with that access. And, we may require the user to provide some justification or a ticket number to be able to activate this access. But, once the activation happens, now we provision that, the user can perform that task. They're time bound based on the policy associated with that particular entitlement. And, when they're done, they can simply end the session and that deprovisions that access, right? So, now we've moved from standing privilege or standing access for privileged entitlements to just-in-time access when I need to use it. So, I've got preapproved permission, but it's not a standing privilege.

And then, last but not least, we talked earlier about certifications. This is one of the toughest things that our customers have to deal with. You're asking day-to-day professionals to go in and certify and review the access of all of the employees that they've got. I know that when I talk with Levent about this, right, there are things that I have access to or people on my team have access to. We're not quite sure whether they should have that access or not. We don't have all of the details about the entitlement or how they're using those entitlements.

Well, with this new mechanism that we've developed, we can go in and automatically generate and review the access associated with all of those users and make recommended decisions on the access for all of those entitlements. And, it's going to be based on a variety of guardrails that are defined as the certification policy is put into place. So, I can create guardrails that say, for example, if this is privileged access and it hasn't been used in the last 30 days, recommend revoking that access. If it's access that's been reviewed multiple times and have been approved, let's just go ahead and automatically recommend keeping that access.

But, what we see as a reviewer now is all of the recommended actions that are being taken, I can override these if I choose to, but I can see all of the details associated with every single one of the decisions that the system has made, and I can choose to adjust or confirm those decisions. We believe this is going to really reduce the amount of time that people spend reviewing the access that their employees have and really create more value. Chandra, I'm going to turn it back over to you for any closing thoughts.

Sorry, yes. No, look, I don't have any particular closing remarks. Scott, I'll turn it over to you because I think we should really move to taking Q&A now.

Perfect. Yes, there are several questions that were submitted. So, if you have others, please type them in, and I'll go through a few here. So, the first one I wanted to relay to the team, and there's a couple of different versions of this. So, I'll just read one of them that kind of encompasses it. But, a lot of identity security players are trying to become the runtime enforcement layer for agentic identity. What gives SailPoint the right to win here compared to other identity vendors, which are already operating in line for human access management?

Sure, sure. I'll start. I'll answer that in 2 parts, right? One is, look, the only way to have -- or the only way to really enforce runtime controls in a very, very effective way is to have deep identity context. And, the best way to think about this is the proverbial kill switch now, right? The kill switch for agents. A lot of runtime platforms claim to have a kill switch, right? Our view is an agent kill switch is supposed to kill a bad agent. Now, a kill switch should know or what's the basis on which a kill switch will know what is a good agent versus a bad agent, right? It's like giving a security guard a gun and say, well, shoot the bad players, right? They've got to know how to distinguish the good and the bad players.

So, that requires knowing deep identity context, right? You've got to be able to say this agent is a bad agent because it violated all the policies of access. There is a pattern of access behavior here where it's tried doing bad things. We have analyzed the intent for that agent. And, it doesn't have the right intent in the way it's prompting. And so, with that depth of context, we -- you have to combine that with the runtime control, which is what we are doing. And, that's a real differentiator. That's -- and, the context comes from Discover and Govern, and Protect is where we enforce that, right? So, that's sort of part one.

Part 2 is in almost all -- in most cases, we actually coexist. It is not a one size fits all. It's not a one winner takes all, right? So, let me give a couple of examples. So, you could say Okta, Microsoft, Entra, they are in line with the traffic. They are looking at the token. They are doing token exchange and so on. But, they are really the front door. Once you are inside at a very fine -- they will tell you, you have access to the Snowflake database, okay? Go, you validate it. Now, it could be a human or an agent. But, a specific row or a column of data inside Snowflake and what is the -- and if it's -- whether the data is very sensitive and at the very moment that human or agent, can they have access to it -- that context they don't have, that context we have, and that's why we are the policy decision point, and we are the real-time authorization engine. So, they do -- the IDPs do authentication, and we do authorization, fine-grained authorization. So, hopefully, that makes it clear on why on the differentiation and the need to coexist.

Great. And, I think a good follow-up to that is that we have several questions on just the differentiation versus the platform vendors. And, what telemetry do we rely on from those vendors? And, what are we incorporating into our platform from the platform players?

Yes. Look, Levent, do you want to talk about how we have our own telemetry, but we also get all the logs from the...

That's right. Exactly. Yes. So, look, I mean, look, we are-- obviously, we're hooked into as many places as we can, and we never turn down data. So, we, first of all, have our own sensors and telemetry directly that we source, right? Again, from Agentic perspective, we're on the endpoint. We have an endpoint sensor, as I had mentioned earlier. We're on the web browser, so we can get direct interactions in the web browser with Agentic pieces, right? We are -- have thousands of connectors. So, we connect to all types of different sources, right, in the -- both for the humans and the agents combined, right?

So, we can see their access, what they're entitled to. We actually manage that access, right? We control that access and we know exactly what they're provisioned, not provisioned for. Now, on top of that, of course, we have -- we also plug into all the SIEM and XDR tools. We can get like real-time log data from many of the providers out there from like network providers and IDPs, both at the log layer, but also at the direct integration with their platform. So, we can see all the activity through both those platform players as well very easily.

So, literally, like I can go into details here, but we are aggregating and putting all that information together. It's our unique differentiated data that we have through our thousands of connectors, our presence through endpoint and web browser and direct plug-ins to all these platforms. Plus, we also suck all the data in as the customers, of course, allow us to do to overlay it, combine it, and add human and data context to it. And, that's the power of it. We make intelligent risk assessments and creations and create policies out of it that then people can deploy on their platforms.

And, Levent, it's not just access to applications, it's also access to data, right? So, we look at it holistically across the board.

That's right. We plug into the DSPMs, LLM providers. We get -- we have our own classification, but we also get all the data classifications for customers that have existing classifications from their like Microsoft Purview or Cyera of the world or Proofpoint of the world. So, we can easily get that and also make that a policy decision parameter for our policies or customers on our platform.

Got it. So, I think you probably answered this in some of that response. But then, what makes identity or SailPoint the right kill switch relative to some of those other players in the market, right, where they have a lot of visibility as well, why is SailPoint the right kill switch?

Yes. It's really the -- it's the -- we use the word context, and I recognize it's actually an overloaded word. So, the plain English translation of that is the kill switch needs to know, be it -- particularly for agents, right, what is the risk associated with that agent? And, if that agent has done or if that agent has gone rogue because it has, like, drifted from policy, the policies that were assigned to it, to how bad is its drift?

Is there a pattern of behavior over the last few weeks where it has continuously drifted, analyze the intent because a lot of times, what people don't realize is agents are prompting. They will go to a command line interface and they will prompt something to get access to a tool, let's say, analyzing those prompts and seeing whether the intent behind those prompts is right. This is what we do, right?

And so, when we say the lineage, the depth of context, we take like 10 parameters into account to actually determine risk. And, this is why this risk and posture is very important. Now, then we use that to do the enforcement, right? Actually, doing the enforcement is actually the last mile. 80% of the traffic is in actually doing all the analysis, the policy drift, the risk, the intent, all that analysis to make sure that you are 100% convinced that you have spotted the real bad actor and now is the time to stop them.

Yes. And, Chandra, the additional piece of that, right, is the human context. Many of those agents that you're talking about are acting on behalf of somebody. And so, if the human context provides insight that there's risk, that can flow through as a part of that.

I mean, imagine like if -- imagine an agent shows up on your front door and they have a pass that says, "Hey, I want to access this resource. Like I want to get into this house, right? If they have a visitor pass, it looks legit, right? That's what an access layer does, right?" They let them in based on that pass, which is a token, right, with a claim on it, right? But, what SailPoint does is hold on. That agent is trying to access or that person is trying to access that house, right? They have bad intentions. They were trying to break into deep financial information maybe. They're owned or they are associated with a network of bad players, right?

They have like a behavior in the past, right, that have like malicious intent and malicious behavior in the past, right? And, they're trying to obviously get access to the critical things in your house. Would you let them in? That's the SailPoint power, right? An access player might just see the token, you have a visitor pass go in, but we see the full context of data, what they have done, what they did, what they want to do and basically stop it right there. So, I think that's the differentiation that we bring to the table.

Very helpful. And, next question is really, again, all these are kind of related, but how do we enable the provisioning, certification review of agents that are ephemeral in nature? How do we manage the ephemeral agents? That's the question.

I can take that. We capture ephemeral agents just easily because, again, we have near real-time capabilities of detecting these agents in real time with our sensors, right? So, we can see them. And, there are multiple ways. First, we can -- as I showed, we can create policies to say, "Hey, look, I allow sanctioned AI platforms to do certain things, and I don't want them to access to certain resources. For instance, a marketing agent. However, like long-lived ephemeral ones, cannot access maybe GitHub repositories, right, or production systems for coding. So, those policies get applied no matter what, ephemeral or not, we detect them, we apply our policies. And, we, of course, also have a record of ephemeral agents that we detect them as well. So, if you need to certify their access or audit them, we have -- we'll have all that in our evidence traces.

Great. Okay. Switching gears a little bit. A couple of questions came in on IdentityIQ. So, what -- can we just kind of quickly recap what are the importance of the announcements that we made at Navigate on IdentityIQ? And, what -- how does the features or how do you manage agents if you're on IdentityIQ today?

Great question. Do you want to take the IQ and I'll take the agent side?

Sure. So, look, the reality is lots of customers are still running on top of IdentityIQ, and we're continuing to invest there. So, there's a lot of new features that we delivered as a part of this latest version of IdentityIQ. And, part of that is really modernizing the platform on which IdentityIQ runs. As a piece of software that runs within the customer's environment, they're responsible for the web servers, et cetera, that are running on top of it. And, those are maturing and changing. And so, part of the investment that we made was making sure that we can help customers run on a secure environment while we continue to invest in the core capabilities that are part of that application.

Yes. And, we understand -- obviously, while we invest in IIQ, a lot of customers still have Agentic needs and our Agentic fabric does not require -- it can run standalone. It doesn't require you to be on our human fabric. It has direct connectors to IIQ. It can bring in the human data context from those connectors easily. So, you can have IIQ and our Agentic fabric run side by side without doing a migration of any kind of sort of anything like that. So, that's the beauty of our setup here.

Okay. Great. I'm going to go back. Another question came in. I just want to make sure we clarify this point. So, I want to ask this question as well. And, it said, in line with previous replies, what happens when Agentic activity happens on the endpoint, not necessarily via MCP? And, do we have visibility into that? Or, how do we manage that endpoint that we may not -- do we see all that traffic?

Yes. Look, we-- yes...

Sorry, Chandra.

No, no, please, please.

Look, we meet our customers where they are. And, what we see is while there's a lot of convergence on MCP, we realize a lot of people have different setups that they have to accommodate for. And, we have layers of protection that basically come in and both detect and protect and govern those agents. So, obviously, like if the customers have MCP, we plug into their MCP gateway or we have our own MCP gateway, we also have an MCP server that we can use locally. But, if people don't want to do MCPs or if it's not maybe a shadow AI, we have an endpoint sensor that people push out to their endpoint devices. And, we can basically monitor all the processes and figure out what the agents are doing and apply our policies that way as well. So, we don't have to have an MCP. We basically protect and guard against non-MCP agents as well.

Yes. The only thing I would add is we also have plug-ins, right? And so, for instance, for all the big endpoints, we have a plug-in, so be it Cloud Code, Cursor, Codex, right? And so, let's say there is a new endpoint agent that gets launched tomorrow. And, if they don't support MCP, it will take us like a week or something to actually build a plug-in, right? And so, we -- because we have the full context and we view the endpoint as both a detection mechanism as well as an enforcement mechanism. So, as long as they have some published API, we will actually -- we can do enforcement through them. It doesn't have to be MCP-compliant API.

And, it has to be both, right? Because sometimes agents will bypass MCPs and go directly to the endpoint. So, we have to be able to do both.

Right.

Good point. Okay. Another question here, again, switching gears a little bit. Just in terms of what's available today, what's coming. I know, Chandra, you had a slide, but maybe just is there a way to kind of -- for investors to think about what we announced at Investor Day, what's GA today, what's coming? Any kind of high?

Yes. So, yes, think of them in sort of 3 tranches, a good chunk, a good majority of them will become generally available November 1, which is our start of Q4, right? And so, I guess, in about 20 days from now, that's sort of tranche 1. Tranche 2 is by end of year, sometime in December before our Q4 ends. Then, there are a few things that will be in Q1 of next year. So, think of a February, March time frame of next year. Those are the 3 tranches. But, a good majority, I would say, 80% of what we talked about is November 1 end of year.

Great. And, I think one last question here, and I know we're running up on time, so I think it's a good one to end on. But, can you just help us understand where customers are on their journey to help govern and secure agents? There's a lot of different noise and tools in the market. Just help us understand what we're seeing from customers and sort of where they are in their journey.

Yes, I'll take that. Look, and we had, I think I want to say, close to 125 conversations last week. And so, here is sort of the theme, right? The big takeaway, which is it was even up until 2 months ago, discover, discover, discover, discover, discover. It is still that. But, it is -- there is a big change in terms of they are like -- at some level, we are overwhelmed with discovery. We might not be discovering everything good and bad, but we have enough. What do we do with it?

So, there is one big shift in the market, which is take action on it. You found 300 exposed credentials, rotate them or take them away right away, right now, right? So, theme number one is take action on it, runtime controls. Theme number two, particularly in the last 2 weeks, after the White House meeting with the tech giants and the President signing into an executive order, the Superintelligence Accord, audit and compliance, right? This is just last week, right, the volume of that conversation, the fidelity that just went up by orders of magnitude because if you go read the executive order and a lot of the -- it's all about accountability and accountability comes from audit and compliance. So -- and, with fine-grained controls, right? And so, those are the 2 big things in terms of market or customer adoption from discovery to runtime controls, audit and compliance.

Perfect. I think that's a great spot to end. If we didn't get to your questions, I will follow up. If you have other things that came up or things that you were thinking about, please reach out to me. We do go quiet on Friday. So, hopefully, we can touch base either later today or tomorrow for anyone -- for any questions that are still outstanding. Otherwise, we look forward to talking to you again during earnings. Chandra, Levent, Dan, thank you very much. I think that was very helpful. So, I appreciate everybody's time.

Thank you, Scott. Bye.

Thank you.

All right. Good morning. I'm Rob Owens with Piper, and I manage our technology practice and cover cybersecurity and infrastructure software. Pleased to be joined on stage with Mark McClain from SailPoint, and we'll just dive right in. Okay. I'll leave a little time if there's questions from the audience as well.

So interesting news over the weekend relative to the slowing and better understanding of AI and what these things can do. And as maybe the -- I can't call you the little boy, but the one who cried wolf, if you will, to say, hey, guys, we're going to have to manage this stuff. There's just -- there's a lot of proof points that point towards SailPoint's value proposition. So I don't want to say take us through the last 72 hours because this has been ongoing since the advent of AI. But maybe you can articulate your view on what just happened over the weekend and how it speaks to where the need that SailPoint serves in the marketplace.

Yes. I think if it wasn't already apparent, I think it's become more apparent that at least part of the risk of what's happening in the world with AI and agentic is the fact that these are a flavor of identity, these nonhuman identities. And now what we've seen is, particularly in the Hugging Face incident, the idea that they are somewhat not only just autonomous but incapable of self-regulating what should or shouldn't happen in a given context. And so what people are recognizing is -- I'm feeling tremendous pressure that we serve mid- to large enterprises, I think most folks know. I'm feeling tremendous pressure from my Board, from my senior leadership to implement AI technologies to become more efficient, more effective, more productive all across my organization with these tools.

And I'm now once again presented with a very clear and present danger that I don't know that I have the right tools and technologies in place to help guard and protect myself from the way these things seem to go off the rails. And so I think it's that some people I'm not sure in my 40 years in tech, I've ever seen something quite so much a foot on the gas, foot on the brake scenario where people are feeling tremendous pressure to go faster and adopt this tech and feeling tremendous pressure to keep their foot pretty hard on the brake until they feel that they can safely navigate these technologies. And we just got reminded again that we need tools that apparently we don't have yet to keep these things in check.

Yes. Can you talk about SailPoint's right to win? You've got an enterprise customer base, and you definitely provided a much needed capability around governance [indiscernible] by everybody to the new governance world. Maybe you can help us connect the divide.

Yes. And we've now decided to kind of articulate what we think are 3 core pillars of what's needed in this new world. We talk about you have to discover, govern and protect. One of the things that wasn't...

What's the hardest part of that?

Protect.

Because everybody has a discovery. You go to RSA, it was all about discovery. You can't protect what you don't know, right? But it was more so an understanding of what you don't know than it was protecting, in my opinion.

100%, Rob. I think what you found was everybody saying, in the realm of human identities, you might not have had perfect visibility, but you had a pretty darn good handle. You theoretically knew everybody you were paying on your payroll, and you hopefully had a pretty good handle on all the nonemployee humans that were engaging with your technology. Could be contractors, could be business supply chain, distribution chain. You theoretically understood all the humans that were interacting with your systems.

What's very clear today is companies do not have a great handle on the nonhuman identities that have access to their systems. And this goes back, by the way, not just to the agentic revolution we're in now, but even for a number of years, we've had other flavors of nonhuman identity, software bots, intelligent devices. Even service accounts that could take action or at least provide access to systems. And very rarely were those things tracked, cataloged, classified. And so this discovery is step one. That's what I was talking about. You can't secure or govern what you can't see. So you have to find it, understand it, classify it, would be the term.

Then you have to governance. So now let's share what is governance, right? In our mind, governance has always been, do you have the ability to determine what policy you want to enforce in your environment? Can you describe it and postulate in a way that the technology can implement that policy and you can hold people to that policy. Ultimately, that's what all the policy IGA has been about, which was mostly life cycle and compliance certifications. But it was, do you know what should be true in the environment? And can you validate that what you expect to be true is actually true, right? That was really what governance has been all about.

But now we've got this whole thing about protect, which is if I can find it and classify it, if I can set up policies to determine what should be true and compare my actual to my desired state, the third really hard problem is and when can I detect that something has gone awry or is going awry and what do I do about it? And I think the reason you said why -- what's the hardest, because that third pillar is absolutely not going to be solved by any one security vendor. I think there's a little bit of a dialogue in the investor community of who's going to win, who's going to win in this agentic age, who's going to win? The answer is multiple winners, I believe.

Like you will need the collaboration of all the various lenses we bring to security. You need to understand what's happening on the network. You need to understand what's happening on the device. You need to see what you can see traversing the cloud, but you absolutely need to understand from an identity lens, what these things are and what they're supposed to be doing and whether they're doing what you expect. And that's the lens that's the newest because you're the longest-term security analyst as far as I know these days. You've seen all these various evolutions of security technologies. Identity is a relatively recent focusing lens on security, and we're just now beginning to...

You used to be an infrastructure play. That's identity.

You had to have it. You didn't know who had access to your systems, but it wasn't really that security oriented. Now we're learning it has to be secured.

So the devil's advocate asks, why does a legacy governance player have a right to win? What have they done to change their platform? And how is this a modern approach? Where you're seeing other people, I would argue do governance lite. They're buying lightweight cloud type of governance solutions. So why does the big behemoth? What have you done?

[indiscernible] this is new for me.

Where have you changed architecture? And why do you have a right to win moving forward if you think about where the world is going?

Well, number one, even though we are 20 years old, we resist the term legacy. That's reserved for the really legacy people like IBM and Oracle. But at the end of the day, I think our right to win comes from a couple of things. One is when we did our re-IPO last year, we kind of reminded people that if you understand the identity landscape, you probably had a taxonomy of 3 core areas. You had access, think SSO and MFA, Okta being the dominant player there. You had privilege, PAM, CyberArk being the dominant player there. But what you might not have thought about is what was sort of their purview or their approach.

The nature of access and SSO is think very wide and very shallow, right? Okta and players like that, Ping and even Microsoft are very good at covering the landscape of all of the identities you cared about. This is human identities, but very shallow, meaning they got you logged in. They didn't really do much after that. They didn't really know what you could do after you logged in. They just said, I'm going to make sure you're really Rob, and I'm going to make sure you can log into the stuff you're supposed to and not log into the stuff you're not supposed to. But a lot of security happens after log in. We've often drawn this metaphor of a security guard in a skyscraper in New York, right?

You go to a New York banker meeting and you check in at the ground floor and you have your little license and you say, hi, I'm Mark, here's my picture. I'm really Mark. You walk around that security guard's desk to the elevator and go up there. They have no idea where you go, what you do. Did you try to break into something? Did you try to get into the executive suite where you're not supposed to be? That security guard's job was just to make sure you entered the building and you were really who you said you were. That is pretty analogous to SSO, MFA. I know who you are, I let you in. I don't know what you're doing after that. So there's a lot of security risk that's unmanaged with just that shallow wide piece.

Privilege was the opposite, right? It's very deep, but limited control over limited applications. After Nikesh and Palo bought CyberArk, he came out and said, look, we typically, with that tooling, manage 3% to 5% of the identities in a total enterprise, right? We're managing the super important critical access of database guys and systems administrators and SAP administrators. Yes, super important. You don't touch 97% of the identities in the enterprise, and that was the human identity. So the challenge these other identity landscape players have is they're coming from either a shallow wide or a narrow deep offering.

SailPoint's nature has always been deep and wide. That's who we are. It's what we do. We had to understand all the identities you cared about and very deeply understand what they could do. What's new for us, Rob, and you know this, is protection has to be very real time. Well, that's new for SailPoint. We had to learn to say we're going to have to get into these real-time authorization decisions because I think 2 words we're going to hear a lot in the world of AI and agentic agents is context and intent. What we just saw with Hugging Face was these things went way out of bounds on both the context they were supposed to stay in and the intent of what they were supposed to do.

That's why in a world of agentic, we're going to have to understand context and intent and have the power to say, I see something that's either about to or actually going off the rails, I got to stop it right now. And that's real time. And that's new for SailPoint. We will have the ability to either do that for things that are happening or talk to the right associated security tool to go make that stop. Sometimes we won't have the control to shut off a network segment or a device, but CrowdStrike or Palo or Zscaler or somebody will have that power, but we'll have to be collaborative. What they won't have, though, is the identity context. That's what we'll have.

I think it's important to understand relative to the SailPoint story, if we can call it the go-private period, if you will, there was a rearchitecting during that period, right? Single data layer, ability to kind of build applications on top of that. So maybe you can speak to where the platform is now? Because I think some people still remember the struggle between SaaS versus on-prem and parity of function and things of that nature.

Yes. We started 20 years ago as an on-prem software business. And I remind people that we were on-prem because that's what the market told us they would buy. It's hard to remember that 20 years ago, people didn't put important things in the cloud because the cloud wasn't secure enough. And then about 8 years into AWS and Azure and Google Cloud, people started to go, oh, wait, I think that's more secure than my own data center. I'm going to put the most secure things in the cloud. Well, that's when we shifted into a SaaS offering, and it took a while, like you said, to close some of those gaps functionally from our very robust on-prem product. But we did that a while ago. And now what we've been focused on is these modern capabilities that are needed to manage this incredibly complex landscape.

And back to that right to win question, Rob, a little bit. Here's what I tell people about the craziness about, oh, you can just hire a bunch of kids out of Stanford and they can go build any tool. Really, like I couldn't hire a bunch of 23-year-olds and say, let's go take on Workday because I don't understand HCM and they don't understand HCM. It takes more than just tooling to know how to go win in an enterprise market space. You have to know the nuances of those issues. You have to understand why buyers buy what they buy, what issues are important, what aren't as important. We spent 20 years getting best in the world at that for identities.

And now we're applying that depth of knowledge, but like the latest, greatest Silicon Valley start-ups, we're applying all the AI technologies to do that faster, better and more sophisticated ways than we ever have. So I'd like to say, if you want to bet, do you want to bet on the brand-new kid without domain knowledge who's got AI tools or the guy who really understands the problem and is using those same AI tools to deliver a solution, your choice.

And you put up a very good quarter recently, 25% ARR growth, which is one of the faster, I think, in cyber right now, but not showing the acceleration that the Street wants. Now you've always been an optimistic but conservative guy, at least over our relationship...

I'll take that, moniker.

Okay. And you're talking about acceleration a couple of years out relative to the business. So maybe square things for investors in terms of where you're at now, where you're seeing the opportunity and why gunslinger Mark McClain is willing to sign off -- you are from Texas, willing to sign off on acceleration.

Well, look, at the end of the day, we tried to walk a very fine line this last quarter for those of you who are paying close attention. And we said, we're going to give you as much qualitative enthusiasm as we can and quantitatively kind of stay in the guardrails for the moment for 2 primary reasons. Like you've heard many vendors say for many years, we can get excited about pipeline. Pipeline is great. But pipeline is pipeline until it converts into contracts.

We are seeing significant accelerating growth of our pipeline with what's happening in the world. But as of the end of Q2, we couldn't point to a rearview mirror set of proof around these are the ways these deals get done. Here's the sales cycles, here's the competitive dynamics in those deals because as you know, Rob, everybody in the security space and a few folks from outside the security space are saying, agentic is my bailiwick. I'm going to solve your agentic problem, right? It is everywhere right now.

And so I think what the market is looking for is who am I going to talk to, engage with. And I think very rapidly, they'll get beyond the brochures and the websites to let me see your products. Let me see what you can actually do. Let's get in here in a POC with my data, my identities and let's see who can do what. And we are inviting our competitors into that environment. Like let's get in front of the customer with our stuff, and let's quit jabbering in press releases and see who can do what.

And so what we saw this last quarter was tremendous momentum for getting invited into those dialogues, engaging in those POCs, delivering what we can and talking about what's around the corner, which will be showing up here probably next month in some of the announcements we'll make at our Navigate conference. So we are very much seeing that momentum build. We just couldn't, in good confidence, say, I will absolutely commit to you, here's my acceleration in the future because I haven't seen proof of it yet. But we laid as many seeds as we could out to tell people, we're seeing all the signs that, that could be coming, but we didn't choose to get in front of it with the numbers.

Yes. And amidst all this changed market, it does feel like there's better visibility this time around with the story. So is that a function of the market? Is that a function of changes in go-to-market? Maybe help us understand.

A little of both. I think the market -- I've told people sometimes history -- the great thing about being old is you've seen some stuff.

The bad thing is you forget a lot of it.

Yes, you forget most of it and you're really tired. But -- I'm not really tired. But at the end of the day, though, I've told people, if it's helpful, go back and look at a lot of technology inflections and just watch the subsequent lagging curve of security products. When did antivirus start as a big industry? Oh, not long after PCs proliferated. When did cloud security get big? Oh, not long after SaaS and cloud started to be a thing. It turns out that we deliver inflected technologies, and I don't think we've ever seen something inflect as fast as AI. And then people start to see the risks and the concerns and the vulnerabilities and the threats and then they go, oh, I need products that help me address those risks.

That's what we're seeing now. I think we're seeing enough of the AI rollout, and it's still not wildly rolling out. As people know, they're still kind of foot on the gas and the brake, like I said. But people are saying, I see enough of this happening. I better start looking at the tools I need to secure and control it. And wow, did Hugging Face put a big exclamation point on, you do not have what you need to control this stuff today. And so I think -- and by the way, I would differentiate for all of you for a moment, Hugging Face moment from Mythos moment. Mythos moment says, what happens when bad actors get a hold of technology and use it to try to attack you. Hugging Face moment says, even if there's no bad actor, this stuff can go off the rails and create damage in ways you may not expect.

So you better have good controls against threats from the outside and things that can go awry, so to speak, from the inside if you don't have controls over what these things are doing. So we do, Rob, see this inflection of the security interest that I think is slightly lagging the accelerant we're seeing in the market around AI in the enterprise. And now we're going to see people start to show up and say, here's what I can do to solve that problem. And I think it's kind of game on.

Are you seeing that AI accelerant slow whatsoever in terms of the agentic deployment opportunities just so folks can get their bearings...

I think Hugging Face might cause people to tap the brakes a little bit, honestly. I mean, it's so recent, who knows, a little bit. But I think it may have kind of spooked people a little bit. But by the same token, I mean, these same companies, these same C-suite leaders in these big businesses are getting so much pressure from their boards, from everywhere to go get at the -- at least not -- I want to say at the forefront, just not be lagging in their adoption of AI because everybody's conclusion is if you don't lean in on AI and your competitor does, you're probably going to lose to that competitor. So you can't get real far behind here or you're going to have a problem.

So I think people are feeling a need to kind of stay up with it vis-a-vis their industry. It does vary by industry, clearly. But vis-a-vis their industry, how do I stay leaning forward enough to not get left behind. So while these security threats have shown up and kind of spooked people, I don't think we're fundamentally seeing people back off. And look, the whole recent -- should we slow down the AI revolution? I think what you got to know is what happened with Hugging Face happened with older tools. Like you could stop AI development today and nobody is going to. But you could stop it today and those threats are still very real.

Absolutely. And your story is not void of AI and AI revenue?

Correct.

You've posted a nice $60 million, $70 million ARR relative to AI. Where are some of those targets? What's driving that now? And this is kind of before the agentic evolution.

Yes. What we're saying, and this is a little counter to what you hear out in the market and also probably frustrating for you and the investment community, apologies for this, is that we aren't going to say, hey, here's our human identity line of revenue and here's our agentic identity line of revenue because now customers are just going to buy identity protection. And that's going to imply, do you understand the agents your humans are using? And do you understand the humans that can access your agents?

We see no way to protect the enterprise treating these as independent control centers. And so our heritage of very deep controls over humans, we think, is a distinct advantage going into the agentic revolution because don't lose sight of the fact that the predominant use of agents for the foreseeable future is very directly tied to humans, think copilots, think agents in your SaaS deployments from Workday, Salesforce. And then people say, oh, but what about these swarms and digital workforces of agents doing all this work? I'm like, well, that doesn't come out of thin air, right? Somebody in the organization says, let's go revamp our loan origination process using digital workforce. Great. The guy in charge of loan origination is defining what that looks like, what policies apply, what data is needed, what protections are needed.

Like even a digital workforce going on to solve a problem is doing so at the direction of humans. Another way to flip this around if you're confused is there will be no lawsuits against agents. Some human will ultimately be accountable in every enterprise. And you've already seen the EU, as you would expect, stepping up with the earliest signs of compliance and regulatory frameworks for managing agents. We're going to do that here in the U.S. We're going to see people say, you got to prove to me what agents you're using, what access they have, who authorized them to do what they're doing. These are enterprises. They are regulated. They have to stay with the rules for the most part.

So all that is coming just like it did for humans, and we're going to have these security risks. So we see kind of these core drivers being the same as they were for humans, which is you have to be regulated and compliant and you have to actually securely protect your enterprise. Both of these things are going to apply to agents.

And those words around cyber going platform. And Mark, the first time around when we met, you made a conscious decision to get out of the single sign-on market -- anti-platform. Is that still the right decision? And as we look at this identity security play, is it going to be solved by a group of companies? Or is it going to be more singular in focus?

I think the term platform is very, very broadly about this moment. I think at a minimum, you got to look at 2 core definitions. One is you just amalgamated a group of products under a brand that can be sold together. Procurement people like that version. I have fewer vendors, I get consolidated buying power, et cetera. The other that's a platform play is true technology integration. And I think for customers, that tends to matter the most. Like I want these things I'm buying to work together. And of course, if you build them from the ground up, that's way more true than if you buy them and stitch them together after the fact.

Well, I think where we're headed is there's going to be, I think, a few, but maybe not very many platforms centered around identity. The biggest security players today, our favorite platform players, CrowdStrike and Palo would have you believe, oh, identity is just going to be part of our platform. I'm like, well, the thing that Palo bought, all due respect, Udi is a friend, great guy, you know Udi for years. Cyber did a subset of identity. They didn't do an awful lot of what the rest of us have done in identity, and that didn't magically change after Palo Alto bought them. And Cyber -- sorry, Crowd bought an even smaller early-stage player called SGNL, great little company, super interesting technology, also didn't really cover most of what a lot of us already did in the industry.

So they've either got to get busy building something that took us 20 years to get really good at. I don't think they're going to close that gap very quickly with development or they've got to find somebody to buy. And if you track our industry, there's not a lot of things to go buy. So we think the platform players are going to come at it just like Microsoft has so far, which is, look, I can give you all this stuff together. And I remind people that in the enterprise buying segment, they would like to get it from one vendor as long as it actually solves the problem. Microsoft's offering today does not solve the problem, which is why they've effectively been a nonfactor in enterprise IGA. They just don't win there.

So -- and Okta's IGA, by the way, same story. Okta has now had an IGA offering for many years. It is not making a dent in the enterprise segment of IGA. So at the end of the day, there has to be an offering that actually addresses the problem. And as we've been discussing, the problem just got a lot harder with agentic than it was with just human. So we're pretty comfortable that there's going to be kind of an identity-centric center of gravity that's needed in this emerging era, and we're as well positioned as anyone to have a pole position there.

Yes. Final question for you. Can you talk about new customer acquisition from the standpoint that SailPoint has always been -- you've always been very well-regulated industry and with larger companies. But I think -- in a lot of ways, that's beginning to change just as this identity game is beginning to change. So maybe you can highlight your new customer acquisition strategies, what you guys are doing to take advantage of it.

Yes. We still feel like our bread and butter is going to continue to be mid- to large enterprises. And the way we count that, by the way, we're less than 20% penetrated. If we count all the 3,000 to, call it, 4,000 or 5,000 employees and up, we are 15%, 17% penetrated in those businesses around the world. There's a lot of new accounts to go get in what we consider our sweet spot -- sorry. At the mid- to lower end of that enterprise segment, we will never invest in SMB in the foreseeable future, sub 1,000. That's just not where we're going to play.

In that 1,000 to 5,000 range, we plan to go after that quite a bit more aggressively because with this agentic framework we announced recently -- Agentic Fabric, excuse me, that does allow us to go into those smaller shops to go, look, if you just want to attack this agentic thing and you're probably dealing with it even in a smaller shop, here's an offering. Don't have to buy off on the whole soup to nuts IGA deal. And we think that's going to open up through MSSPs, through lower-end channel partners, and we're actively working on that right now.

All right. Well, I think that's all we have time for.

We ripped through a lot of stuff in 24.5 minutes. You did it for us.

Thank you, guys.

All right. Thank you all for being here. Appreciate it.

Hey Mark, it's really good to have you. Thank you for joining us this afternoon, and thanks to everyone in the room. Mark McClain, Founder and CEO of SailPoint.

Pleasure to be here.

Mark, I think our founder-led companies have a little bit of an advantage in that founders tend to be a little bit more willing to think from first principles, a little bit more of a deep understanding in the technical bones of the product from day 1.

I'm curious, when you think through the quality of the product today, a lot is changing in identity. What are some of the early decisions that you've made or decisions that you've made over the last several years that you think have set you up for today to be a leader in IGA in a world where Agentic is changing?

Great question. Yes, I guess someone has never left founder mode. I think that's the thing I...

Yes, that's exactly.

You started in founder mode -- you're always in founder mode, maybe. Yes. I think, Gabriela, that's a great question, a little different than I've had in some of these settings, and I love it actually.

I think part of it is we had a very ruthless focus on being what we call market-driven. Like it's very easy after a while to think you know more than your customers and like, well, we know what's going on in this market. We know what to do next. And we've tried to be very, very careful over the years to not listen to ourselves, not to sit in a whiteboard surrounded room and decide what's next, get out there and listen.

And for a while, obviously, we've heard the concerns coming around nonhuman, Agentic in particular. Now to be fair, I don't think if you'd asked me 2.5, 3 years ago, whether we would be where we are today, this has been an evolution unlike most of us have ever seen in our careers at speed and scale of what's happened.

But it certainly didn't kept us flat-footed, number one. Number two, there's a little bit of right place, right time. I'm willing to acknowledge that. I love founders who tell you that 20 years ago, they knew it would be exactly like this. I think that's funny. But I think at the end of the day, I think we are finding ourselves in a very enviable position for what the world is needing right now.

What's clear that's needed is you're going to have to think about this explosion of nonhuman identities, particularly agents, which, in fact, leverage a lot of other types of nonhuman identities like service accounts and credentials and things like that to do their work.

You're going to have to think about the problem we've been thinking about for humans, unlike most of the rest of the identity landscape or security landscape and the way we've been thinking is deep and wide forever, meaning to do what we do, we have to think about the breadth of all the identities that an organization cares about, right, which up until recently was mostly human, far beyond their employees, but all human identities.

But we also had to map that across this incredibly deep complex landscape of homegrown applications, vended applications, brand-new SaaS applications and 70-year-old COBOL applications. I mean that's the world our customers work.

I remember drawing it in our SailPoint initiation 10 years ago.

And it hasn't gotten any simpler. And like the Mark Twain quote, the mainframes demise is greatly exaggerated. They're still out there. So I think at the end of the day, that heritage of thinking about this complex problem of lots of identities, the interrelationships between them and the complexity of what they're trying to access in the environment. When you think about the agentic world in that context, this explosion of identities we're seeing, which are happening way faster than human identities ever grew and the complexity of what it is they can do at machine speed, that problem just got about 10 to 1,000x harder, right?

But if you didn't start from where we're starting, I think you have a much bigger mountain to climb. And I think we're going to see that play out in these coming quarters. I think the poke at a couple of parts of the landscape. There's a lot of brand-new funded companies right now here in the Valley saying we're going to solve Agentic for you. And our answer to that is how are you going to do that without the human understanding.

Like these agents aren't operating in a vacuum. They're operating on behalf of someone either directly like a Copilot or indirectly a digital work environment that we're trying to set up a completely automated loan origination department. Well, guess what, that's happening in the direction of some humans. Some policies are involved there. Some data is involved there. So what we're going to see, I think, very quickly is agentic has to be understood in the context of human policies and human organizational dynamics.

And if you can't map that incredibly complex, rapidly changing environment, you can't keep up. And I don't know how some of the folks that are coming from other than that heritage are going to be able to keep up.

Let me play devil's advocate.

Please. It's been happening to me all day. I deal with the devil all day today.

If I was starting with the clean sheet of paper and building an identity governance solution for that, which you just described as being 10 to 100x more complex. And I think you could use the word adaptive, which I know you have, or ephemeral fundamentally, I'm building a solution for something that doesn't look like a human.

So how could I possibly take an identity governance solution that was built for humans and square peg, round hole, force it into a solution that can actually dynamically deal with agents?

I would argue, this is fun, this devil I'm arguing with. You're not the devil, but you said devil's advocate. I think at the end of the day, it does somewhat look like a human, just not exactly like a human. Because to say it doesn't look like a human, well, really, what does the human identity do? It has a mission to accomplish. It has tools with which to accomplish it.

It gets into systems or accesses data, analyzes that data, takes action on that data. That's what these agents are doing. Now they're often doing it in unexpected ways. We just learned how to define amoral agents in the context of Hugging Face, where these agents went up and did things that humans would think was inappropriate, but they didn't know, they were just trying to solve their little problem.

So we're learning the parts that aren't like human, to your point, what's not like human, scale, speed, lack of ethical moral boundaries. Okay, that's different, but an awful lot is not different. And I think -- and it's not just that it's not different. Again, we come back to this postulation that you aren't going to see agents behaving even "autonomous agents inside the enterprise context". They're not going to be behaving in completely independent ways, meaning they were sent off to do something. Even if they are a subagent spun up downstream of an original agentic problem, that problem was defined by a human say, solve this for me, go create a workflow, create a business logic, do something, analyze data for me, give me recommendations.

All those things are happening because some person said, I need this in the enterprise or I need to solve this problem or manage this workflow. So I think we're going to be kind of forced back to these agents are, in fact, capable of human-like behavior but with very different characteristics to your point. And it's that human context that's going to differentiate the kinds of compliance and governance and security controls we need that we will have to apply those policies differently, I think, to your point, in an agentic world, but I don't think the concepts are going to be completely different.

So bring us now to some of the practical conversations that you're having with your enterprise customers. If I am a large financial institution and all of my agents are in sandboxes, and I say, I would love for these agents to have more business context and be released from their sandboxes and my knowledge workers can be productive. SailPoint, please solve this problem for me.

What is the customer journey as you walk through what regular IGA to IGA for agents looks like?

Yes. And honestly, it is so early. I'm not going to speak with like massive conviction of exactly how that journey unfolds because we are very early. I'd like to say in baseball terms, I don't even think we're in the bottom of the first yet. I think we're still in the top of the first.

But to your point, I think that the truth is one of the things people assume is true that is not true of well, when an agent is operating, doesn't it inherit the constructs of its owner? Answer, no, it does not. You would think that would be true, wouldn't you? But it's not true.

So when I spin up a Copilot or I set up a new agent in my Gemini environment, my ChatGPT environment, whatever, it doesn't have any constraints. It's just told to go do something. We have to give it whatever constraints it's supposed to have to do what we're asking it to do. One of the things we will do is to say, look, we have that ability because we have that human context to say, this agent, which was authorized by Gabriela, will, in fact, inherit her constraints. But there's no natural way that happens in the environment today. That's not how these systems are set up.

I make a comparison sometimes, Gabriela, that I hope is helpful. The Internet was originally designed very open, wasn't it? And then we had to figure out how to secure it when we started doing things like commerce on it. These tools were designed to go grab information as much as possible from everywhere, look for patterns and tell you what they find. They were not designed with security in mind.

Nadella's famous quote of secure by design. Nothing about LLMs was secured by design. And we're seeing the ramifications of that already. These systems weren't designed with the idea of how am I going to constrain these things so they can't do too much. In fact, it was the opposite. How can we give these things massive freedom, feed them with as much data as possible so they can give us the best answer. So we're having to now retrofit security concepts on the things that were designed with the exact opposite mindset. That's a problem.

But we're going to bring those constructs back to our what's human-like and what's not of saying, well, how do you think about this in a human context? You say, what is the intent here? What is the context? What is the business problem trying to be solved? What are the dangers that exist around that? How do I constrain those dangers while letting you do what you need to do to do your job? I think we're going to bring those same concepts to agents. It's just -- it's going to look different in some respects because of the lack of moral compass and the lack of constraints of speed and time.

Some of what saves us in enterprises today is people can only do so much so fast, right? There's not much constraint. You read the forensic analysis of what happened with Hugging Face, it is mind-boggling. It is literally mind-boggling. I think even the OpenAI people are a little mind-boggled, which should scare all of us.

But I think at the end of the day, we're seeing when you have systems that were designed with an intent, and you're now asking them to think about security and constraints, it's clashing. And so we're going to have to have vendors like us and others who come in and say, I'm here to provide those constraints and policies and guidelines, guardrails is maybe a good term here.

And yes, we know a lot about how to do that, and we're going to try to apply those concepts into this environment.

Let me ask the drinking your own champagne question. Which of these frameworks, to your point on being at the top of the first inning, what's working within SailPoint? Do you have examples of possible agentic deployments where you've used Agentic fabric and some of the really cool bells and whistles to feel less scared?

Yes, we're still scared. But I think maybe this is a simple taxonomy that's helpful. I think if you oversimplify for a second, there's probably 3 kinds of agentic use cases that are emerging rapidly. One is you're sort of ideally giving everyone in your organization access to something, Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, use this to be more productive in what you do all day every day. That's kind of an Agentic use case one.

Agentic use case 2 is well-known vendor, Salesforce, ServiceNow, Workday, whoever has set SAP. I'm going to provide a bunch of Agentic capabilities in the context of the application you bought for me. Agentic case number three, and this is generally true of mid- to large-sized customers, which is the ones we serve, I have an IT organization and a development team. We're going to go build some bespoke things. So there's kind of day-to-day use, coming to a vendor, build your own workflow process, not just over here, employee using the tool to do their job better today.

All 3 of those look and feel kind of different. We are trying all 3 at some level. We're for sure. I think all companies almost at any scale are going to do 1 and 2. Like if you're not letting your employees use AI to do their jobs better, you're at a competitive disadvantage today, no doubt in my mind. Second case, I don't know that a lot of people are going to be super cautious about adopting what ServiceNow or Salesforce or Workday gives them because they're going to try to trust that those vendors put the appropriate guardrails and said, this will help that application work better for you.

The third one is, I think, the one that's going to get real hard and real messy, but it's also where we live in these mid- to large enterprises where a whole lot of what their IT franchise is built on was built in their shop, right? It wasn't something they took from the outside. And it's not just a person looking to be slightly more productive in building their next Word doc or spreadsheet.

They're going to look at ways to leverage this technology for their unique business approach to their unique industry, and those things are going to look pretty different case to case. You well know that one investment bank does not look like another investment bank does not look like a merchant bank, does not look like a consumer bank. And that's just in the industry of finance, right?

Like at the end of the day, this stuff is going to be very unique in these large to midsized enterprises, and we're going to have to do what we did for years in the human space to say, what are we seeing here? Where are the risks showing up? What kinds of things seem to catch people off guard? And how are we able to detect things early enough to put a stop to bad behavior?

There is an intelligence piece to the IP that I think sometimes is underappreciated. And the way I would articulate this is investors will say to us, look, if you're an endpoint company or a network company, -- the bigger your installed base, the more intelligence you have, it's like a crowd sourcing or a network effect.

Whereas for something like SailPoint, SailPoint is equally good whether you have 3 customers using SailPoint or some of the many customers you have thousands of customers using SailPoint.

Where would you push back to this idea that SailPoint's moat is lower than an endpoint or a network company...

Because of this network effect.

Because of this network effect. Yeah.

I hadn't thought of it vis-a-vis that type of advantage because you're right. The network effect to us is less that these things are all using SailPoint. We have some effect that we see because we see across all of them the kinds of things that have shown up as a problem here, something we thought would be good idea. It turned out not be a good idea. This customer, I think I go to do that, we say, don't do that. We tried that and it didn't work.

It's a great network effect.

That is a very -- but the 2 customers didn't see it amongst themselves, we thought, right? But I think at the end of the day, the moat that's been surprisingly deeper than I think people thought was just the pure complexity and challenges of these complex enterprise environments because to poke at one of our friendly neighborhood identity players, right, our friends at Okta have been at IGA now for about 5 years.

And notwithstanding a couple of comments that have been made, they haven't put a dent in our IGA business. They are winning IGA business basically below the line we care about. And in the enterprise scale, their solution, while I'm sure it's come a long ways, continues to not be competitive in the super complex world we live in, which just says something about how complex and hard it is to do what we do at the scale and complexity we do it.

And so I think at the end of the day, that moat of not just understanding what needs to happen in business processes like compliance and provisioning and life cycle management, all these things that we do, but doing it at the scale and complexity we do it has just turned out to be a very big moat.

And people ask us now, like, well, aren't you running into all these folks have press releases, CrowdStrike and Palo Alto and Microsoft and Okta. And the answer is no, we're not. Actually, we're not running into them in these competitive environments because the customers at that scale, while they would love vendor consolidation, we was here isn't a platform that's broader going to win.

In the enterprise, the platform does tend to get wider over time, but those customers will not take a completely noncapable solution just because it's provided by a vendor. Microsoft would be the clearest example here. Microsoft has a lot of offerings People don't buy it just because Microsoft offers it, right? That's just -- they do a lot of packaging into E5 and E7. But at the end of the day, enterprise customers will look at that. Almost inevitably, they'll look at it. But they won't just buy it if they don't think it's capable of solving the problem.

So it means sometimes we have to fight off kind of at the brochure level, some of those competitors. But we get into real RFPs and real competes today. We are just not seeing those players show up because they're not there yet.

This is a brochure level question. So Microsoft will talk about Agent 365, and they'll say this is our governance solution. ServiceNow will talk about agent control tower and they'll say, this is our governance solution.

When they talk about governance, how is it different to when you talk about governance?

Well, 2 different answers. With Microsoft, to be fair, I think you can assume they have a pretty good answer for the Microsoft stack, which is why I would contend that when you see them having success in security, it's across that broad -- that spectrum, including identity, it's down market where the shop is truly a "Microsoft shop.

When you get into a mid- to large enterprise, nobody is a Microsoft shop. They might have a large investment in Microsoft technology. At most, it might represent 20%, 30%, 40% of that environment, but any big shop is going to have way more complexities than an all Microsoft environment. So that's just what does the solution address.

I would say the other part of it though is, look, customers rarely trust one vendor to say, I'll be really great at managing my competitors. You just don't see that happen very often in real life. And so when a customer is multi-cloud, for instance, here's what I'm really curious about, Gabriela, I don't know if you covered this. I am very curious to look about 2 years post Google Wiz -- is Wizz now the best tool for managing Google Cloud? Or is it still multi-cloud? It was -- its value was multi-cloud before they bought it. Let's see a couple of years afterwards, whether customers go, "Yes, I'm bringing in Wiz to manage Azure and I'm managing AWS with Wiz. I don't know. We'll see.

I lived through that. There's a company called Tivoli. I was part of the way back in the dark ages. Tivoli was a super cool multi-vendor, heterogeneous management product. They got bought by IBM. And a few years later, we were the best at managing IBM and nobody bought us for anything else when I decided to leave and do something else.

So I think at the end of the day, Microsoft's got 2 problems. One is just vendor perception problem of, I don't know if I trust Microsoft to say they're going to manage everything in my environment when my environment is lots of non-Microsoft. I think Okta, like us and even like ServiceNow arguably is independent of some of those underlying technologies.

With ServiceNow, since you brought that one up, I'd say their challenge is they don't have an identity-centric construct in their environment. Like -- again, we keep saying how can you manage agents without the understanding of that agent is acting on behalf of this identity. There is no identity construct that's in our ServiceNow. And then Okta, which has an identity construct, I would say their challenge is they just have never had to go deep into the entitlement structure of these applications, and it's a very big challenge to do that.

This is my last AI question. So if we're at the top of the first inning, when do you see more notable momentum? What do you think?

I think it's coming. The reason we took the tone we took on yesterday's earnings cycle calls was we've said for a while now, some moderate to minimal lag time behind when you hear customers in the enterprise talking about deploying AI, you will hear us talking about AI security, and I think it's happening.

I think we've shifted in this year to customers ready to move out of pilots and experiments into broader deployments on that third type primarily, right? I think they've been doing individual productivity, AI. They've been doing -- leverage the things from my vendors.

Now I think they're moving into things they particularly themselves want to do. And I've challenged some folks on this. You might have some fun going back in history here. Watch when a technology inflection happens, the lag time until you see interesting security things show up for that.

It was 3 to 5 years for cloud. It was a really long time.

And people have talked about why that was longer. And I'm not sure if I know the answer. It was less time probably from the proliferation of PCs to antivirus showing up. But I don't know why would you think? I'm not a deep cloud security guy.

I think what happened with cloud was initially, the workloads were pretty basic. They weren't really mission-critical. They were greenfield. They didn't have to be backwards compatible. And multi-cloud didn't really become a thing until 2018. So you could just use the in-built security.

Great point. I'd say the other factor I would throw into your mix, that's a really good answer, by the way, because this is what you do for living, not me. I'd say the other thing here is this is always funny when people say, why didn't you just start SailPoint as a SaaS company in 2006. Answer is because we went to enterprise customers before we built the product and said, "Hey, it's 2006, should we build this for SaaS? And they said, if you do, you won't buy it.

The cloud is not secure enough for us. This is critical information. It can't live in the cloud. And as you all know, about a decade later, that it was a 180. The most secure environment in most enterprise shops is their cloud environment. It's more secure than their homegrown data center environment.

And so what happened, I think, partly there is that lag in cloud security as people weren't putting anything super critical in the cloud initially. And then they started to put important things in the cloud and all of a sudden, they went, "Oh, I'd better be able to secure this stuff. What's clearly true of AI is they're already trying to give it access to their most critical data so they could learn from it, leverage it in decision-making.

So they know AI has access to the critical data. They're trying to keep it constrained in sandboxes or private environments, SLMs instead of LLMs or whatever. But everybody knows this stuff is going to be accessing all your most important data. That's not a safeguard. So the only safeguard is, can I ensure I understand what these agents are doing and look for anomalous behavior that I can stop.

Both you and Brian, I think, are pretty balanced in how you think about the financial model. There's so much we don't know about AI. How on earth did you come up with this $800 million target in FY '29, given how early we are?

It was more S than W-A in Swag. I think what we saw was we could extrapolate a growth pattern that we feel is defensible to get to that $2.1 billion total. And when we see what's happening under the covers, the kind of leaning in our customers doing to where -- we're literally not talking to a single enterprise today in a new account environment who doesn't want both. Like they're not saying, "Hey, I don't know about this Agentic thing, let's talk about humans. Nobody is saying -- they're all saying, I need identity. I need it across the board.

So it's 2026, our fiscal 2027. So to say by the end of '29, that a predominant amount, if not literally almost every new account is coming in with Agentic felt very safe. To say that most of our customers that aren't on that model today move to that model also felt very safe. So we actually said at least $800 million at the time. And I think that may turn out to be more prophetic. We'll see.

It's -- to your point in extrapolating growth, though, how do you extrapolate -- you don't have a baseline? Or is there a point that you do have a baseline because customers are giving you visibility?

We have a baseline of managing their human identity.

Totally.

And we, like everybody, are trying to figure out what's that ratio going to land on ultimately, somewhere between 2:1 and 20:1, I think is a safe guess. And what we know is if we position this correctly, we will get our more than fair share of that agentic identity challenge. And the explosiveness of that TAM doesn't feel like it's super scary to continue to hit a kind of mid-20s ARR growth.

We hope that actually ends up to be conservative. But we're not prepared to give a different guide than that. It just -- you could argue that with the explosion of Agentic identities in the landscape, there's a lot of TAM that's going to present itself. If we position well to capture that TAM, we should capture a decent part of that explosion.

Plus, last -- sorry, Gabriela real quick. Remember, we still consider ourselves relatively lightly penetrated in human. There are still tons of Oracle IG and CA IG out there. There is tons of people who have part of their enterprise running under SailPoint, but not nearly all of it. So we could grow -- we would have told you maybe something like this without the Agentic explosion if we just continue to execute well on the core IGA business.

So we do see multiple growth drivers in front of us. It's, as I like to say, a simple matter of execution.

You are teeing me up for my all-time favorite question and I want to end with it. So let me ask you the annoying one in the meanwhile. So ever since the IPO Part 2, I can only imagine this is frustrating for you and Brian, where you get probably 25%, 35%, 50% of questions on your earnings calls tied to mix.

And it will be why did this term contract end up coming in differently? What was -- what happened to the SaaS number? And it's -- I can imagine that it's frustrating. So talk to us a little about how you ended up in this position where you have to explain the mix every quarter. And I'm curious as a management team, how you think about moving the conversation away from that or just the nature of the...

It's our forensic gap, right? At the end of the day, we've tried so hard to keep investors focused on the ARR number because it takes that noise out of the system, right? Whether we do a term deal or a SaaS deal, there's a recurring revenue stream there, right? And that ARR growth, we think, is the most representative number of the health of our business because the different rev rec associated with these types of licensing. Thank you, ASC 606 makes that harder to predict.

And I got a question today realize like, don't customers already have a decision made as to whether they're going term or SaaS that individual customer does. But like every business, we've got a whole bunch of deals in our pipeline. Some are this type, some of that type. What we can never predict is which of those exactly are going to close this quarter. We do great AI-driven probabilistic work there. But this quarter, we actually got a little surprised, which we had to talk about yesterday. We had a 97% SaaS mix. That wasn't what we planned for.

So we had less term, so we had less recognized revenue. So we had a revenue shortfall that the model gobbled up right when we put our press release on the wire, and we had to explain for the next few hours like, don't worry, there's nothing wrong here with that revenue shortfall because it was just a mix of which deals closed this quarter that were term.

Term is still a diminishing part of our business. It will probably never be 0 though. So there will always be a little noise to manage here. But if we can keep folks focused on ARR growth represents the health of our business, that number continues to be a really good number.

Okay. So now I can ask my favourite question.

A fun question.

So I remember when we did due diligence on SailPoint, not just this time around, but...

Yes, you're welcome for a second shot. You're welcome.

The customers complain like how about migration. And this is where I think something like virtual architect comes in. So one of my observations across technology is switching costs are going down, migrations are getting easier. Someone like a Snowflake will even tell you their system integrators can now price fixed cost migrations as opposed to variable cost migrations at 30% to 50% to 70% less time and money than it used to old going to new.

That's old of their own to new or competitive.

From Hadoop to Snowflake. So similar for you guys, you mentioned earlier the core legacy competitors in core IGA. -- how -- there's got to be more levers you can pull. Are you seeing a change in speed of migration because customers will now say, actually, it doesn't have to be a pain in ***. There are better ways -- there are easier ways in 2026 to execute a migration.

Yes. This is very new. So I can't point you to the rearview mirror yet, but we're very excited about it. So we launched this thing called Agentic Acceleration. And what we had done was we took some of our best PS architects, and we pointed them back at the tens, not hundreds, I guess, at this point. Well, as you know, a few hundred migrations we've done from IIQ, our on-prem product to our SaaS product and said, point AI at this with your deep expertise, help us figure out how to automate the maximum possible amount of this migration.

We launched that a few months ago. We are very comfortable talking about an order of magnitude difference. So things that took months now take weeks, things that took weeks, now take days. That we can stand by pointing it at our product. Guess what we've been working on, pointing it as competitors' products. And now we're starting to get some early indicators that we can probably take 90% of the time and cost out of migration from one of those tools. That's only been out for about 2 months.

So I'll have to come back to you. But your point is absolutely right that with tools like that, the hurdle to get through a migration, there's still some internal change management anytime you change a tool, right? I don't know what our friends at Snowflake say about that with regard to Hadoop, but whoever is using that stuff has some different things to learn. There's some change management. There's the technology migration, then there's the human and what they actually do to interact with the technology. We can only do so much to take out some of that human change management, but we can make the technical hurdle, which was more substantial before, go very, very, very far down. So I think that will open up.

So so you know better than us from talking to customers how meaningful this sounds pretty meaningful. What are the other reasons that customers give you as to why they don't want to switch?

That was the biggest one, honestly. It was -- I know I need to do this. I've got so much going on in my shop. I should do this, but I just can't do it right now. And that was a time and cost thing, to be fair, right? Well, if you take the time and cost down dramatically with these technologies, we're going to be interested to watch how much pull that creates from those customers.

There's very few of those customers who are super satisfied with those products. They just knew it was a big mountain decline. And some of them are like, I just not sure I'm ready to do that yet. And now I think we'll see some of that unlock. I can't predict the dramatic yet because we can't report it yet, but I think we are seeing those dialogues pick up in intensity pretty fast.

Is there also an intersection with a renewed focus on modernization?

That be our modernization from IQ to SaaS. Is that what you mean?

I know. customers saying, look, we have to get our data infrastructure and security in a row for AI. Therefore, if we were pushing this project out on IGA indefinitely, actually, we shouldn't be pushing it out.

I think it's probably more driven by Agentic than anything else. I don't know if that's what you mean by modernization in this context. But what's happening is the Agentic tidal wave that they see coming at them, I think is causing a lot of them to go, I can't stay where I've stayed. They knew they weren't in a great place with human, but they kind of thought, well, I think I can live with it. I probably got some risk I'm not managing well, but I think I'll live with that risk right now.

I think when they see what's happening with Agentic, their companies are for sure deploying it, and they've now seen the risks that can show up with it. I don't know that we're going to have a lot of people saying, "I'm just fine, don't need to talk to you. We mentioned this in the, I think, callbacks, not on the main call yesterday. We got a ton of POCs going on right now. We talked about the energy around that with these new technologies, the Entro product and some of the discovery tools. 20% of those are with customers who don't own our IGA.

So they're not even customers who are saying, "I'm going to shift my IGA forward. I just need to solve this Agentic problem. Let me see what you got. So that's a new motion for us to not even say, first, you got to get off of that old IBM and CA Oracle stuff. We're saying, you can keep it for now if you have to, don't recommend it, but let's get your agentic problem solved. And that's a new motion for us.

You've been very consistent in sticking to the core competencies of the company with IGA, and I know you have some flavors around that as well. A lot of your competitors have taken a much broader approach and all the swim lanes are converging. We want to do everything and we want to do this new ephemeral thing on top as well. Has anything changed on your thinking on the swim lane that you want to be in?

It's a great question. I'd say the swim lanes are almost disappearing the way we've thought of them as the answer I'd give you. So here's what I mean by that. We still look at the core human SSO MFA game that both Okta and Microsoft dominate and our friends at Ping fellow TV company do real well there, too. At the end of the day, we looked at that market about 7, 8 years ago when we could probably play there, but we don't need to.

And I think a lot of people are, oh, you're going to start to lose IGA business because you won't have this broad offering that Okta is now saying they'll have. And CyberArk right before their acquisition by Palo bought a little start-up called Zilla and they were starting to plant the flag for their widening of their offering. And all we can tell you is in the enterprise clients we sell to, that has not hurt us at all.

I think Okta having that breadth of offering. And I think cyber would tell you they're further behind chasing PAM than they were chasing us in IGA. And we will tell you, they're not hurting us in IGA. They've expanded the low end of the market, I think, but they haven't hurt us in IGA. I think how we see it, though, Gabriela, it's a slightly different way to think of the question, some of those concepts are going to start showing up in our offerings. What you won't see us do is traditional SSO MFA for humans. You won't probably see us do traditional PAM for Sysadmins and DBAs, which is what PAM was mostly about.

What you'll see is that incorporating real-time dynamic authorization. You'll see us talking about escalation and deescalation of dynamic privilege. Those concepts came out of things like TAM and SSO, but we don't want to go play in last year's war. We want to play in the next war. So we're not going to roll up the swim lanes. We're going to borrow some key concepts from those lanes and deliver them.

I think our Navigate conference in whatever it is, 6, 8 weeks from now, early October, you're going to hear us talking about real time more than you've ever heard us talk about real time. And that would be picking up concepts from both privilege and SSO, and it's also going to be very focused on levels of privilege, dynamic privilege.

So the concepts are going to make their way into SailPoint Next-Gen. We just never felt the need to go acquire or buy our way back into the last gen solutions.

Mark, thank you for going down some rabbit holes with me. Please join me in thanking Mark for his time.

Thanks for being here, you all. Appreciate it.

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2027 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's Fiscal Second Quarter 2027 Financial Results. Joining me today are SailPoint's Founder and CEO, Mark McClain; and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan.. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills.

Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements, and because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance, and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially.

This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which exclude certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance. Please reference in this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailepoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures including reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.

Additionally, please note that the development, release and timing of any features or functionality described for our products that are currently not available remains at our sole discretion on a when and if available basis and may not be delivered at all or should not be relied on in making purchasing or investing decisions.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Our strong second quarter highlights the compounding power of our identity security platform and new product innovations with AI playing an increasingly larger role in our success. We finished the second quarter with ARR of $1.231 billion, up 25% year-over-year, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance by $11 million. SaaS was especially strong, growing 36% year-over-year with SaaS net new ARR increasing 34% year-over-year.

In Q2, early adopters of our new solutions moved quickly to secure access to our agentic suites ahead of the planned Q3 release. Combining this momentum with our existing solutions, our total AI-driven ARR has already crossed $70 million as of the end of Q2. This momentum gives us tremendous confidence in our FY '29 year-end targets which include at least $2.1 billion in ARR, while continuing on our path of delivering greater than 20% durable growth.

Today, millions of nonhuman identities, from service accounts to autonomous AI agents, are exploding across the enterprise landscape, yet we believe the vast majority remain completely ungoverned. In fact, in our research released last month, we found that 97% of AI agents now have access to sensitive enterprise data, while only 21% of organizations surveyed say they are highly confident in their ability to manage that risk. Competitors are treating these agents as isolated identities. We view identity as a human plus AI challenge that needs to be solved with a unified approach, and we're doing it at scale for many of the world's largest enterprises.

You cannot safely secure an agent identity without deep accountable human context. Conversely, you can no longer govern human access without knowing what agents those humans own and operate. For every agent, an organization must know its origin, what data it can touch and which human is accountable when it goes off script. We believe no company is better positioned to solve this complex intersection in SailPoint.

This is no longer a future trend, it is a law. The EU AI Act contains specific human oversight and audit logging requirements, which are scheduled to become enforceable as early as 2027. We believe regulators will increasingly ask who is accountable for this agent and its actions. We built our identity platform to answer that question before regulators even chose to ask it.

Real-time human and agenetic identity governance is no longer just an IT operational task, it is now a CISO and boardroom priority. As our strategic relevance elevates to the offices of the CISO and the Chief AI Officer, we are unlocking significantly larger enterprise budget opportunities, accelerating our pipeline, and paving a clear multipronged path to our fiscal '29 targets.

This momentum is evident in our results. In the second quarter, our SaaS customer count grew by 16% year-over-year. Our average ARR per SaaS customer grew 17% to over $400,000. And our AI-driven pipeline has more than doubled since our Investor Day, which was less than 3 months ago. When recent headlines details how Frontier AI models broke out of their digital sandboxes, many labeled these as AI safety issues. We see them for what they are, identity governance failures, a massive problem, which we expect will get even more challenging as AI usage expands in the future.

The question I'm constantly asked by CIOs and Board members of other companies is simple. Can SailPoint protect our enterprise from these autonomous agent breakouts? The answer is yes. Because securing and governing all identities, including a genic identities is the exact problem our company was built to solve.

Let me give you an example of how we recently expanded our market position in nonhuman identity security at a global Fortune 500 company. Within a week of a proof of concept, we connected to a majority of their data sources, leading to discovery of more than 10,000 unknown agents and thousands of associated risks in their environment. This resulted in a multimillion dollar contract for our digital identity Flex offering alongside intro.

And another example of this momentum, we closed a 3-year 7-figure commitment with a global software company. This new customer is leveraging our core identity security cloud with advanced digital identity governance across thousands of machine identities while establishing a direct path to upgrade to our agentic business suite as they scale their AI infrastructure.

Our go-to-market engine is significantly more versatile than it was 6 months ago. We've expanded our entry points across CISOs, Chief AI Officers and other C-suite leaders to win new customers, securing human workforces, autonomous agent fleets or both together.

In Q2, we also expanded our ecosystem with new agent identity security connectors for Snowflake and Databricks. We introduced our Cursor Enterprise connector for autonomous coding agents, and launched a cloud enterprise integration utilizing Anthropics compliance API. Whether an agent is writing code, analyzing data or querying an LLM, SailPoint provides comprehensive visibility and human accountability in a single independent platform.

Let me expand on our innovation. Our approach is grounded in a continuous intelligent security loop across 3 pillars. First, we discover every identity across all platforms and map their entire lineage, so you know exactly what permissions they hold and who authorize them. Second, we govern them under a strict policy of 0 standing privilege, dynamically orchestrating life cycle policies across millions of agentic and nonhuman identities with support for global compliance frameworks. And third, we will protect the enterprise with the ability to deploy a kill switch when an agent violate to guardrail. We are working to enable real-time authorization, security and response and remediation capabilities integrated with the SoC.

To deliver on these pillars, we fundamentally advanced our platform this quarter with the launch of SailPoint identity security featuring two purpose-built products, Agentic Fabric, which is now generally available; and Human Fabric, which is the evolution of identity secured cloud. This enables organizations to move beyond static compliance into real-time threat aware enforcement across both human and nonhuman identities.

These aren't future promises. These real-time detection, stock integration and automated enforcement capabilities are available right now. Unifying AI and human identities under one control plane creates an immediate compounding effect. All of this runs on our core technology foundation, SailPoint Atlas. Atlas provides one unified data model, a powerful, comprehensive identity graph. And a shared set of AI services engineered for agent scale, real-time telemetry and in-line response.

We also accelerated our road map by acquiring intro security, and we are rapidly integrating its capabilities directly into the SailPoint Agentic Fabric. This expands our discovery capabilities to over 1,200 nonhuman identity types and provides deep lineage context. While other vendors are racing to bolt-on session visibility or point-in-time threat detection, we believe we are one of the first to bring deep machine credential discovery and full agent life cycle governance under one enterprise grade control plane.

Already this quarter, demand generated from live demonstrations of these capabilities at major industry events like Black Hat and AI 4 has translated directly into enterprise deals in our pipeline with the valuations and POCs at an all-time high.

Overall, the market response to our architecture and product road map has been exceptional with our AI-driven solutions accounting for more than 30% of our net new ARR in Q2.

Enterprises are also using agentic AI governance as a catalyst to accelerate cloud migrations. And through SailPoint Agentic acceleration, we have dramatically simplified the migration process from on-prem to SaaS. Let me give you an example.

This quarter, a global financial services firm signed a multiyear agreement to modernize with our SaaS platform to manage over 300,000 identities. By utilizing our automated onboarding tools, we dramatically reduced implementation friction and accelerated their migration by reducing weeks of configuration time to less than 10 hours.

Ultimately, our ability to deliver rapid time to value remains a major differentiator. As part of this modernization, the company also adopted our Digital Identity Flex model to help ensure long-term flexibility in managing nonhuman identities.

Now I'd like to turn to the competitive landscape. While many vendors market nonhuman identity or agentic AI governance, we differentiate on three fronts. First, monitoring is not the same as security. Simply watching an agent go road is just a dashboard of active breaches. Regulators and CISOs require proactive governance. SailPoint is designed to enforce accountability before the agent ever takes action. We are moving the industry beyond static compliance and into continuous automated governance and protection.

Second, governance is not a bolt-on feature. While others try to add governance to adjacent platforms, it lacks the depth of acquired for modern security. Through our Agentic and Human Fabric, governance is natively embedded to our core, giving organizations seamless, unified control across the entire converged workforce.

Third, access is not accountability. Giving an AI agent a log-in is easy. Proving to an auditor exactly what it did, who owns it and instantly revoking that access at enterprise scale requires a unified identity graph. You cannot protect an AI-driven enterprise on a fragmented stitch together architecture. We are shipping a unified control plane today.

Our architectural leadership isn't just our opinion. It is heavily validated by the industry analyst community, too. I'm incredibly proud to share that one of the industry's leading identity security analysts, named SailPoint the widely recognized leader in their latest identity and access governance leadership Compass released last month.

Additionally, Gartner Peer Insights has us at 4.8 out of 5, based on 824 reviews submitted in the Identity Governance and Administration category as of September 2, 2026. The market is consistently confirming that SailPoint is one of the only identity platforms that can handle this workforce convergence. This is further strengthened by our strategic collaboration agreement with AWS, which establishes SailPoint as a preferred identity governance solution for agentic AI on AWS.

In conclusion, SailPoint is delivering strong growth at scale, while redefining identity security for the AI era. The reality is clear. Basic monitoring isn't security. Governance isn't a bolt-on and access isn't accountability. This is why we believe no one else can do what we do.

By delivering a robust identity security framework that spans humans, cloud resources and all nonhuman identities, particularly autonomous AI agents, SailPoint empowers the enterprise to harness the power of AI with absolute confidence. Our customers don't just secure AI. They secure their future. We believe we have the platform, the architecture and the execution engine to lead this market.

Now I'll turn it over to Brian.

Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Fiscal Q2 '27 was another strong quarter with robust demand for our identity security platform. We are successfully executing a deliberate strategy to build a more durable and predictable business, delivering total ARR of $1.231 billion which represents growth of 25% year-over-year. The central driver of this continued growth is the rapid adoption of our SaaS platform. SaaS ARR grew 36% year-over-year to $847 million. Net new SaaS ARR reached $66 million, a 34% increase from last year, underscoring the ongoing market shift toward our cloud-native solutions. In fact, SaaS accounted for 97% of our net new ARR this quarter.

Within our SaaS platform, we are seeing healthy momentum across our AI-driven solutions, which accounted for more than 30% of our net new ARR in Q2. This is particularly evident within our installed base, where customers adopting our AI-driven solutions increased their annual spend by over 60%. Customer interest in the recent launch of our SailPoint Agentic Fabric and Agentic Suites is encouraging. Ahead of Q3 availability we saw strong demand from early adopters. As Mark mentioned, this brings our total AI-driven ARR to over $70 million, putting us well ahead of the pace to achieve our $100 million target by fiscal year-end.

As we discussed at our Investor Day, our AI-driven ARR definition encompasses our Agentic Fabric, our Agentic Suites and our Agentic add-on modules. We chose this definition because it reflects the underlying customer preference for an integrated identity solution across both human and nonhuman identities.

Regarding the migration of our on-prem installed base to our SaaS solutions, the unit economics remain compelling. This expansion continues to be driven largely by additional capacity, hosting cost and expanded functionality. In fact, over 2/3 of our migrations added an AI-driven solution. Most importantly, once customers migrate to our SaaS platform, they typically continue to expand and grow with us over time.

The migration contribution to our overall ARR growth was approximately 4 points this quarter. We believe we are still early in this motion and our latest AI innovations and the launch of SailPoint Agentic acceleration, an AI tool to accelerate deployments gives us confidence that this can be a durable growth driver.

As a reminder, as customers migrate from our on-prem solutions or land with SaaS first, there is a temporary timing impact on recognized revenue and adjusted operating income due to the shift from upfront license recognition to ratable SaaS revenue. As a general rule of thumb, each $5 million shift between SaaS and term impacts in-period revenue by approximately $10 million with the majority flowing through to adjusted operating income. While this tempers near-term reported growth, it strengthens the predictability and long-term health of our business as that revenue is recognized over the full length of the contract.

We saw this play out in the second quarter with a higher mix of net new SaaS ARR, which equated to approximately a $5 million revenue timing headwind. Putting this all together, we delivered total revenue of $309 million, an increase of 17% year-over-year, with SaaS revenue growing 34%. Excluding approximately $36 million of revenue recognized at point in time, primarily from term contracts, our revenue recognized over time grew 22% year-over-year.

Additionally, our remaining performance obligation, or RPO, growth accelerated to 30% year-over-year to reach $1.9 billion, and our current RPO grew 27% to $931 million. Our adjusted operating margin was 20.3%. We generated $37 million of free cash flow in our fiscal second quarter, representing a 12.1% free cash flow margin. Our dollar-based net revenue retention remained robust at 113%, and our gross retention remains in the high 90s.

Acquired ARR from Entro was less than $3 million, which was more than offset by currency headwinds in the quarter. In other words, our total net new ARR results are consistent with organic constant currency growth.

Turning now to guidance. For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck, where you can also find additional modeling notes. For the fiscal third quarter of 2027, we expect ARR to be $1.29 billion, up 24% year-over-year. We expect revenue to be $328 million, an increase of 16% year-over-year with adjusted operating margin of 17.7%. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 577 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.07 to $0.08.

For fiscal year 2027, we are flowing through the Q2 ARR upside to our full year guidance. This translates to an increase of $11 million to $1.38 billion, up 23% year-over-year. We expect revenue to be approximately $1.27 billion, an increase of 19% year-over-year. And we expect our adjusted operating margin to be approximately 19%, which is inclusive of additional costs for Entro.

We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 575 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.32. We continue to expect to generate approximately $200 million of free cash flow in FY '27. We expect SaaS to account for approximately 85% to 90% of our net new ARR in Q3 and approximately 90% to 95% for the full year 2027.

In summary, we believe our strong results, growth at scale, an innovative product road map position us extremely well for continued success in the AI-powered future. We are confident in our strategy and our ability to achieve our fiscal 2029 targets of at least $2.1 million of ARR, at least $800 million of AI-driven ARR, at least 22% adjusted operating margin, and at least $400 million of free cash flow. We believe our execution against these targets will deliver long-term value to our shareholders.

With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our President, to join us and open the call for questions. Operator?

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC.

Great. Congrats on the results. A lot of AI nuggets sprinkled through the prepared remarks hearing that the AI-driven pipeline has doubled since Investor Day. And also, I think you said AI-driven ARR was over $70 million this quarter and contributed, I think, meaningfully to net new ARR. I guess I'm wondering, can you help unpack like how that pipeline is converting? And I guess, as you continue to target $800 million in AI-driven ARR, by fiscal '29. Like how should we think about the progression towards that number? Talking about like attach rates to deal sizes. Just sort of curious on the mechanics because it feels like you guys are a really nice start there.

Matt, it's Mark, and I'll probably start and turn it over to Matt for a little more. I think what we're seeing, not surprisingly, is just tremendous interest in what we've brought to market in the last few months. I think as we all have discussed and customers everywhere are kind of in a search mode on how to get their arms around the risks associated with AI, everybody is familiar with some of the famous reach or risk stories that have hit the news. And so -- what we're finding is just tremendous interest in this topic. And then I think Matt can comment more on kind of some of the shifts we made in our go-to-market approach, but we've, I think, successfully deployed a focused team in our field who can get in front of like the Chief AI Officer, help them understand specifically what SailPoint is doing to address those risks and differentiate that from some of the -- frankly, the noise that's out in the market around everybody talking about what they're going to do to help you with AI.

So I think what we're finding is we get the audience because there's interest in the topic, we're a credible player to come into the dialogue. And when we present in more specificity what we're doing, it tends to get very, very interesting and very fast. That's why we feel good about the pipeline build.

Yes. Matt, I'll just add, -- it's a pretty good place to be in and that there's a ton of interest in this topic, right? So it's much easier to get calls returned and get access to folks. And to that end, we're seeing a tremendous amount of interest in our products. It makes -- it's a pretty easy story, right? If you look at our install base, and when you start moving from our, let's say, business suites to Agentic, it's really an upgrade, right? It's not a modernization. It's not a big migration, it's an upgrade. And now you get access to all the agenetic tools. And so we're going through that process. I'll tell you another thing that's really interesting is we've pivoted a bit in terms of our go-to-market motions. As Mark said, we've got an overlay group that's really designed to sell to a different persona, right, which would be the AI side of the house, the security side of the house and still continue to work the traditional silos around identity. But that kind of trifecta there is proving to be fairly effective in us being able to drive opportunities and get into things that, quite frankly, maybe we hadn't been getting into.

Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays.

Brian, maybe for you. I think most folks understand that more SaaS conversions means less upfront revenue. But could you maybe help us frame how your SaaS and upfront revenue outlooks are changing this year? Just to sort of flesh out why the ARR beat isn't necessarily flowing through to full year revenue? Just to explain the mechanics that we're all on the same page.

Saket, thanks for your question. So as you saw, we did land with a 97% SaaS net new ARR mix, which was above our guided range of 90% to 95%. I think just looking out to the second half, this is definitely not a demand issue. It's a rev rec timing issue. So we're expecting the full year to still remain in that 90% to 95% range. And that's what we're providing today as a range, so that could swing one way or the other. Each $5 million move in net new ARR means a $10 million move in revenue. So for Q3, we're expecting a range of closer to 85% to 90% SaaS mix given the Fed year-end. And then for the full year, it will be 90% to 95%. But just to reiterate, this ends up being a rev rec timing issue. You're going to recognize it either largely upfront in the period of sale or over time in the form of SaaS. It's definitely not a demand issue for us.

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Essex of JPMorgan.

Thank you for the intro contribution, by the way. That was a popular question this morning. A question for me. I guess I have two related ones. Either Matt or Mark, how much of the traction and maybe more importantly, how much of your pipeline was competitive displacement? One of the things we're hearing about, particularly in the channel as AI as a catalyst for technology transformation kind of similar but maybe more accelerated to what we saw in the cloud transformation era.

And then maybe part two of the question, we heard about a greater-than-average amount of deal looked during the quarter. If that's true, fantastic results in spite of that, but we'd love to understand the deal dynamics? And what may have caused some of that -- some movement, if any, whether it was the size of deals or complexity of deals, just would love your color on those two points.

Why don't I take the back half, let Matt have the first, Brian, just to clarify, we did not -- if we did, I apologize for any misunderstanding. We did not indicate any significant or any deal slippage of note. We feel like we closed the business we expected to close in the quarter. That's why we came in higher than our guided ARR number. There is a lot of complexity in getting some of these business closed. But I wouldn't say we saw any significant slippage. I think it's more that we are seeing tremendous pipeline build in the back half. And it is taking some time to convert. Just as a reminder, everyone, we launched a lot of these genetic solutions in the middle of early May and our quarter closed at the end of July. So with typical enterprise sales cycles, we knew we wouldn't see a tremendous amount of that convert in the quarter, but we did see some, and we're very excited about the pipeline build. And I'll let Matt talk about the whole when we see an agentic deal getting done, is that a displacement kind of a situation? Yes, no, how often that kind of thing.

Yes. Brian, when you start to look at the competitive landscape and you start looking at the deals we're working, look, everybody typically is coming from something when they're talking with us -- and so AI really has been this catalyst. When you look at the legacy systems, they're just not built to be able to handle this human agentic dynamic. And I think that's causing companies to really start to accelerate. We're seeing it, quite frankly, in our installed base. And quite frankly, that's one of the reasons we have come up with our new product offering, SailPoint Agentic Fabric for non-SailPoint customers.

If you look at our POCs that we're doing a lot right now, a high percentage of them are coming from non-SailPoint customers. They're very interested in our intro SaaS solution. And so we think that's going to be an interesting thing as we see it play out, but we're getting a fair amount of interest from, again, non-SailPoint customers. So I would tell you, I think everybody is kind of feeling it. And not to mention the fact that I think a lot of especially the public companies, the mid-market companies that are public, we get a lot of downward pressure, right, to start being able to drive this technology into the company to get the kind of productivity and efficiencies that maybe the Boards and the public markets are looking for.

Our next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal of TD Cohen.

Congrats. Maybe one for Brian. So RPO accelerated to 30%, CRPO grew 7%. Can you maybe -- can you share with us this widening gap? Are customers signing larger, longer duration agreements or our implementation and revenue recognition payments just keeps extending?

Thanks, Shaul. So we are really pleased with the acceleration in the RPO. I think that's a sign for the future and more commitments from customers. We are starting to see larger deal sizes. I wouldn't say the duration of the deals has extended too materially or significantly. They were in line with historicals, but we are seeing larger deal sizes in for sure.

I thought -- did you say 7% or 27% for CRPO, just to clarify.

27%.

It's 27%. I thought Shell said 7%. I apologize if I misheard that. It is 27% for CRPO.

Sorry, just maybe cut out for a second.

Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell of BTIG.

Great. Congratulations on the good set of numbers here. I think you've kind of hit on this already, but you highlighted that customers who adopted an AI-driven solution in Q2, increased their annual spending with you by about 60% or more. At the Analyst Day, I thought we're talking about more like a 25% to 50% uplift. So I guess my question is what's driving the upside in those customers? And how should we think about the sustainability of that trend going forward?

A great question. Thanks, Gray. So yes, I think what we're seeing is a number of things. First of all, with our migration opportunity, our monetization approach is that when we do a migration -- about 2/3 of those migrations include an AI-enabled products. So there's definitely a trend here in terms of when customers expand with us and land with us, they're definitely interested in expanding with AI. So it's the power of both the nonhuman and human identities that's really driving the conversation and the modernization discussions. So we're really pleased with the early signs and green shoots that we're seeing in the funnel and some of the early deals that we've done.

Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies.

And also appreciate the Entro disclosure. This one is for Matt and Mark. I mean you spent a lot of time talking about the differentiation with -- in AI versus competitors. Are customers understanding that message because it still kind of feels like the Wild West. So like -- the actual question is, one, who are you seeing most in those deals? Is it identity vendors, backup and recovery or platforms? And then two, anything to note with those sales cycles relative to the company average sales cycle? Are they quicker? Or are they longer?

Joe, this is Matt. look, it's quite interesting. We're seeing a ton of interest in what we're calling the SailPoint Entro and the SailPoint Agentic Fabric. And really, what's happening is people are starting to realize that step one is to be able to identify what they don't know. We're really doing these and prosecuting these new opportunities with POCs, right? And we're kind of moving to this -- look, there's a lot of noise in the market. You guys already know this, right? And I think one of the ways we're combating it is saying, if you're buying something today, you're looking something today, look, you need to see it. you need to put it on your network, you got to use your data, use your use cases, and that's the only way you're going to find out it works. So that's an approach we're pushing. We have -- and if you look at our pipeline over the next 3 quarters, 4 quarters, we have hundreds of POCs that are already in the pipeline that we're going to go prosecute.

When you look at the time frame, it is accelerated. It's much quicker than a traditional agentic business suite purchase. And I think if you're looking for time lines, it's 30 to 45 days, right? And our hope is that we can accelerate further than that. But it's putting it on the customer's network, using their data, using their use cases and getting through it. And we're having a -- what's really interesting is if you go look at 50 of these, you could change the name of the company. The results are all very much the same. I had no idea. I had no idea this maybe agents, I had no idea that I have too many people that were using tools that we weren't using. We -- our company standardized on Copilot and nobody is using Copilot. They're using everything else. And it's not a dig on I'm just -- it's one of these things that it's just -- it's real and it's what we're dealing with. And I think the customers are amazed at what they're seeing.

And Joe, just to touch there on the differentiation. Like Matt said, one of the things we accelerated dramatically with the purchase of Entro was the discovery capability. We always like to see you can't govern or secure which you can't see, right? So that kind of was a dramatic increase in expansion of what we can discover. And as Matt said, it's literally 100% of the customers we go in to find way more than they expected to this are out in their environments. But then you have to move to, okay, now that you've seen it, what can you do about it, which is where some of the earlier technologies in the market today are falling pretty short because once you've found these things, you have to do something about it, right? And where we move to very quickly is to do a few things. You need to understand what all these nonhuman particularly agentic identities are. You do need to tie them to humans because some human has to be responsible for this agent. I'd like to say you can't bring a lawsuit against an agent, right? If something goes wrong, somebody in that organization has got to be responsible. That's where our -- as Brian was highlighting earlier, our sale is effectively a blended value proposition of you need to see the human world in great and breadth and you need to tie it to the agentic and nonhuman world. SailPoint is uniquely well positioned to do that. And so we show them what we found. We show them how it relates to the human environment. And then we put the protective capability in place to say now when we see something bad happening, we can take action. We can turn it off, we can flag it, whatever the appropriate action is. And it's that combination of value of discovering and then setting up governance policies and then by taking kill switch type actions when we need to.

So tying that whole non-human agentic world to the human world that we uniquely manage well is starting to resonate very well with customers. They can't manage these agents completely independent of their human identity landscape.

Our next question comes from the line of Rob Owens of Piper Sandler.

There's multiple components to your AI ARR definition. Just hoping you can unpack what's driving the strength that you're seeing thus far?

Rob, it's Brian here. So thanks for the question. As we've been saying, it's hard to look at AI just in isolation, but we're really defining it as an integrated solution that crosses both human and non-human identities. So it's sold with the power of kind of both and both being additive to the number. I mean this really drove the 19% net new ARR growth that grew 34% net new ARR SaaS growth. So what's included in the AI-driven definition is both the AI-driven solutions suite customers that have an immediate upgrade path to agentic suites that were just unveiled. And we really think it's the best prediction or to measure our performance moving forward as opposed to kind of coming up with any kind of arbitrary allocation. We think the power of both of these combined going into the AI-driven number is really the way to look at it. So we're really pleased with the pipeline, more than doubled, over $200 million. We have a record number of POCs, as Matt mentioned, and feel good about where we're tracking against our targets.

Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Colville of Scotiabank.

I guess is one for both Mark and Brian, please. the AI-driven ARR in 2Q accounting for more than 30% of net new, I thought was an incredibly helpful statistic, but also showing to us that AI is clearly a driver of SailPoint's business as of today. Is your expectation that, that proportion stays consistent or increases? Because it might kind of back them with math. If so, then that target of $100 million by the end of 4Q looks really low. I mean, we could even get to like $120 million, $130 million, and that would be a really exciting kind of lending to the future of how SailPoint's going to grow from here?

Yes. So Patrick, it's Brian. So yes, I mean we're excited about the early traction we're getting. And again, kind of one drives the other. So you can't just look at it as AI only. It's the power of AI with human and non-humans combined. So just our packaging and pricing and go-to-market approach is resonating. Again, pipeline build is there for the future. We feel really good about that, even just since Investor Day, having more than doubled it is compelling. And actually, customers are coming to us on these questions, too. So it's really nice to be in a position where customers are seeking out our counts on our guidance in terms of how to navigate through this ever-changing world. So -- and yes, you can see the math. We're off to a really good start, strong start on the Investor Day targets that we laid out. We feel good about them, and it's exciting.

You direct that to both of us. I'll just say, basically, I agree with Brian 100%, Patrick. I think if anything, we feel very good about achieving and potentially, obviously, overachieving that original target of $100 million. And also this year, the question was, do we continue to see it growing as a proportion of our business to answer that is absolutely, yes. I think, as Brian said, increasingly, customers, I think, won't even be asking us about human only identity solutions. They'll just be asking about an integrated identity solution, and that's how we're packaging and selling. And so as -- sorry, as Brian pointed out earlier, it's just kind of impossible for us to tease that apart. And so we just want to kind of get you guys thinking that that's the way that customers are moving forward with us. And we think it's the right way to think about solving the problem, most importantly.

Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor Fitzgerald.

The question I have is just around modernization flex. But I'd like to get a little bit more in terms of how that might be impacting IdentityIQ migration. I think some of the previous comments to highlight the need for IGA modernization. So I guess the specific question is, is this impacting any of your assumptions around SaaS migration in the second half? And also looking at the potential ARR uplift, which I think, Brian, you've said in the past, it's potentially 2 to 3x. Any change in how you're looking at those two

Yes. Thanks, Jonathan. I'll take that one. So yes, in fiscal Q2, migration momentum definitely continued. I think what we're seeing is that customers are buying into the vision, right? So -- and that's evident by about 2/3, actually, over 2/3 of our migrations that we completed in Q2, actually included AI-enabled products with it. So I think that is really compelling. We also have a tool called -- and a service called SailPoint Agenetic Acceleration and this basically simplifies and accelerates the migration process, making it much easier for customers to lean in and continue to move more towards our strategic vision that we have.

In terms of the uplift, we're still in that range of 2 to 3x up with the PON migration. Now that grows over time. When we do have a heavier mix of term, that's probably closer to 2x. But the important thing is that, that definitely grows and expands over time over the next several years out. And we just have more and more now to offer in terms of that expansion opportunity. So we really feel good about it.

Last thing I'll say, I think you were asking this question, this contributed about 4 points to our overall ARR growth in fiscal Q2, the migration activity alone along with the expansion.

Our next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley.

Maybe building on that last question, I just wanted to ask about agentic acceleration. And just kind of the time line that you're seeing some of these accelerated migrations on and when you could when or if you could pivot agentic acceleration towards kind of legacy provider solutions?

Yes. Meta, this is Matt. So absolutely correct. It started out as an accelerating tool to be able to help our IQ customers move much more quicker and more efficiently to our SaaS platform. But today, we're far, far along the road of using this tool now for not only our -- the legacy that you're talking about, but replacing maybe some of our competitors who had some failed implementations. And even so far along as taking a new prospects RFP and using that for a source to actually go build out a POC that ultimately would end up as a production instance. And this is part of the selling adoption we're going through right now for this new agentic world. So we're pretty excited about it.

I'm sorry, yes, non-SailPoint environments as well, right? So that would be all the legacy stuff you're thinking about the, I'll just call them out the Oracles and the CAs, the traditional big legacy players.

Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolf Research.

Maybe just a two-parter for me. I appreciate the contribution to growth from the migrations in the quarter. But can you just talk to maybe how those four points compare to your expectations? How are migrations tracking relative to your expectations? And maybe also just relative to the context of the longer-term targets? Are they ahead of expectations, in line with expectations?

And then just the second part is for the back half, do you feel like you have this mix dynamic locked in to the updated guidance that we have? I noticed the mix drops in 3Q, but you're still expecting a similar SaaS net new ARR mix for the full year. So just help us understand how much confidence do you have that we won't continue to see revenue headwinds from this mix dynamic going into the second half of this year?

Josh, it's Brian here. So I would say that the contribution of the migration/modernizations so the growth was right in line with what we expected heading into the quarter. In terms of the mix assumptions for the second half of the year, the SaaS mix assumptions, and we're tilting more towards 85% to 90% because of the federal government year-end and fiscal Q3. We're still sticking with the 90% to 95% SaaS mix for the full year. And again, that could swing. It just -- that's the reality of the situation. Every $5 million of swing 1 way or the other could be $10 million of revenue. We monitor it, we track it. We track the pipeline. We try to dial it in as much as possible, but we do want to caveat it that, that is the range that you could see.

We feel good about the second half of the year. I think our guidance implies about 58% of our business would come in the second half of the year, Q3 and Q4, and that is right in line with where it was last year. So we feel good about the overall number itself of the net new ARR.

Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari of Baird.

So congrats again, and Entro seems to be really changing the front end of the sales motion, as you said. You now have hundreds of POCs in the pipeline and, Mark and Brian, you mentioned the cycles are materially shorter than traditional agentic suite becoming a faster new over motion. So my question is, as the mix potentially shifts towards these faster entry-led land, should we expect kind of smaller initial ACV but then a much larger subs sort of expansion opportunity into Agentic Fabric and then the broader suite? And part as the product boundary itself is surprisingly moving quickly from Discovery into like real-time run time, governance enforcement.

Beyond Entro, where are the remaining let's say, capabilities, either dynamic just in time or planning or any other run time remediation where you would still look at from an M&A or building organically?

I'll take the first one. This is Brian here. So we are not seeing any smaller deal sizes per se when intro is introduced into the selling process. In fact, I think it's expanding our non-human identity discovery using Entro. So I think it actually could be a compelling use case for maybe having even larger deal sizes at some point in the future. But for now, I would think of it as status quo even with Entro, but it does speed up and make the sales process more efficient from the early stages.

And Shrenik, on the second question, we did see a pretty dramatic expansion, as I said, of our discovery capabilities, particularly with Entro and we are continually developing a lot around our whole move toward more real-time governance. It's demanded in the world of Gentek, and we think it will kind of slide very much into the way people think about doing human identity governance, which has again been more asynchronous, a little less real time. But in this world, we're emerging toward the real-time ability to make decisions based on human access based on context is I think going to be the buzzword here. based on real-time context, candidate human or this agent get access to what it's trying to access. And so that is the place we continue to make significant investments in things like what we held just-in-time provisioning or just-in-time authorization. And we are building a lot there and continue to keep our eye on some of the early-stage technologies in the market to potentially supplement. You've seen us do that a couple of times in the last couple of years of kind of enhancing or accelerating our road map through a strategic technology acquisition. So those types of things are still very much in play for us, and we continue to scour the opportunities around the market for that.

Our next question comes from the line of Richard Poland of Wells Fargo.

So I just wanted to ask about -- it sounded like early in the prepared remarks, you made mention that customers committed to some of the Agentic suites ahead of that Q3 launch. And so I just wanted to clarify, is it fair to say that there was some contribution in Q2 from the Agentic suites. And just as we think about Agentic suites and what's embedded there for the second half? Any, I guess, quantification or even qualitative framing for how we should think about Agentic suites ramping in the second half?

Yes. So Richard, this is Brian. There was no -- absolutely no pull-in of deals. It was -- these were existing business suite customers that have an upgrade path to the agentic suites effective immediately. So these were early adopters of the agentic offerings that we have. It was strictly just a packaging thing now that we have the genic suites available. There is an immediate upgrade path to that.

And then the second part of your question, I think the second half is, again, continuing to lean in on selling more and more agentic suites, and that's the power of both the human and nonhuman identity packaging as part of it.

Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz of Mizuho.

Just I would like to get back to Gray's question on the spending uplift for existing customers buying AI because certainly, it's very early days but also really encouraging data. And I'm wondering if this gives you some confidence that you could actually see more of an increase than perhaps you initially believed or do you expect that it will settle in at the levels that you had articulated at the Analyst Day?

I think as of now, Gregg, we're going to say that we feel really good about where we are, and we're off to a strong start. We're not changing anything from the Analyst Day per se, but we are off to a good start and tracking ahead of the goals that we laid out.

Our next question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Truist.

Great. Flex Navigator has clearly helped accelerate migrations to the SailPoint platform, but are you seeing it also increase the ultimate lifetime value of those customers through higher module adapt attach rates or just broader identity coverage? And do you see Flex primarily just as a migration catalyst or a meaningful wallet share expansion opportunity?

Yes. This is Matt. I would -- really, when we put this in place, really, it's really as -- look, as an accelerator, right, to help customers move quicker to the SaaS or now agentic model. And it kind of takes the risk, if you will, of these large corporations that are moving, right? So they can start to move more strategically than this one big fail swoop trying to get everything done in 6 or 9 or 12 months. So that's kind of how we put it in place. And I think that's -- it's working as we intended.

I would now like to turn the conference back to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir?

Thank you, and thank you, everyone, again, for joining us. We feel very good about the results as we've said throughout the call and try to indicate clearly the momentum we're seeing with the pipeline build and the interest in the agentic capabilities and we expect to continue to see a lot of momentum from these products in the market in the coming quarters, and we're excited about where we are today. So thank you for joining us. We look forward to maybe some further dialogue after the call. Thanks again.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Hello, and welcome to my session. My name is Will Harrington. I am an Identity strategist for SailPoint. And today is going to be the first of a 4-part series of webinars directed at government organizations. And through this webinar series, we'll be talking about how we can apply identity practice to some typical government settings. And one of those settings is the Machinery of Government changes and how identity governance or I'm going to say IGA systems can be impactful and very useful as a part of Machinery of Government.

In future webinar recordings, there will be discussion around how identity governance can be integrated with cybersecurity as well as another session on AI in identity governance and what the impact of that is as well as the final recording in the series will be about building a business case.

So as a part of Securing Machinery of Government changes, I'm going to start saying MoG, Machinery of Government is quite a tongue-twister and it's getting a little bit tiring. So I'm going to go to MoG and IGA. But when I say MoG, I'm talking about Machinery of Government changes. And as a part of today's presentation, we will be covering what is the Machinery of Government change. This is a government webinar. So I hope all of the people who are attending today know exactly what a Machinery of Government change is. Those of you who are coming in from the private sector that a Machinery of Government change is just like a reorg. So if you are dealing with a lot of reorgs in your organization, then maybe the same logic can apply to you. And certainly, this information presented today is interchangeable between government and private.

But today, we'll be talking about reorgs in the context of Machinery of Government in a government setting and the public sector is going to be getting a lot of attention as a part of this. So the challenges -- so second on the list is the challenges of managing a MoG, right? What are they? What is the machine? What is a MoG? The challenges of managing a MoG, like there is a lot of data that changes hands as a part of a MoG, and we'll get into the details of that. What the current practice is.

I've had the privilege of presenting at several public sector network events in Melbourne, Adelaide and Sydney at the moment, and I will be presenting in Brisbane. And I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of public service employees, and I've queried them about how they go about Machinery of Government changes, and they've been able to share some details. So this is kind of just a bit of a collation of that sharing and just what I thought was the most common. And then we're going to get into the good part, which is talking about how identity governance or IGA systems can be used as a part of facilitating MoG changes, what can we automate?

And let's finish up with how to build a business case. How do we build a business case in through or through the lens of a MoG. Like a MoG is a big part of government. It happens all the time. Then there must be some way we can use that information and use that volume of change and the inefficiency of the process to be able to say, okay, well, if I don't have an identity governance system, how can I frame the data to then serve the purpose of building a business case for maybe the implementation of an identity governance system. And I think a MoG provides a really good place to begin that conversation.

So one announcement redraws the whole org chart. So just like I said earlier, a MoG is a reorg. This is where election results or we have a new ministry where there are policy shifts and portfolio changes, but this is something we just saw in Victorian Government in the last week, where we have a new premier. And as a part of having that new premier, there's a new set of ministers with new portfolios, and those portfolios are merged together or divested or moved to other ministers. And that is really at the heart of Machinery of Government because it is those ministers who will then organize the reorganization of those departments and staff to make them more efficient and make them more effective in serving the ministerial outcomes. So that it makes it easier for them to be able to communicate with their departments and affect change really as a part of serving in government.

So the result of that is lots of change, lots of staff members changing their -- maybe changing their job titles, changing their domain or e-mail domain suffixes, changing their HR attributes, who their reporting line managers could be. There are many ways that people can move throughout an organization. And we see this quite a lot, not just in the public service, and we see it in private sector as well, like quite often, I'm quite close to working with Financial Services Institutions, so FSIs. And every year, there would be a bit of a reorg here and there and managers would change and people would need to reapply for their jobs. And in the public service, it's just pretty much the same thing, but very much in a high volume, right? So it happens quite often. And as governments change, everything likes to get reorganized.

This isn't exclusive to just employees, but contractors that might be serving in departments as well. Systems and access need to move to the correct department. And you really got to ask the question for some of those nonhuman entities as well. So we're talking a lot about agents these days and machine accounts. We kind of talked about third parties, but what happens to the ownership of those agents? Like so there's a lot of questions. What happens to all of the access of the staff and the contractors who have that access, and that's really forming the basis of this conversation today in that sometimes that access is retained. Sometimes people keep accounts that they shouldn't. Sometimes accounts remain enabled. Sometimes people hold that access and maybe sometimes that access is used as a part of a threat vector, right? So these are the sorts of the problem that we're trying to solve as a part of a MoG change.

Once again, entitlements, they provide access to records that could be classified as private. The people who do move from one department to another or who change from one government to another, should they retain access to those same records? How do you manage that effectively? How do you do that in such a way where everybody there's a large volume of change that occurs at a particular time, and that change needs to occur within a particular time frame as well. So what's the final result of a lot of this. It's being able to still deliver services to citizens effectively. So making sure that the public service can still operate at the rate of efficiency that they do, but also be able to perform these MoGs and still deliver on the SLAs to the public.

So if we be able to look at the order of things, just in case you don't know, a MoG order is announced, spreadsheets are compiled. And this is something -- and this is a common thread of conversation that I had with a lot of the attendees to these PSN events is that they said that they dealt with MoGs just through a lot of spreadsheets. And what do they do with these spreadsheets? They collect names, roles and access that has been captured. And a lot of those spreadsheets either just get directly submitted to the service desk for someone on the service desk to then manually implement those changes and say, I've got a list of 30 names with access add and revoke kind of instructions or operations and somebody on the service desk has got to work through a lot of different applications and systems.

So Active Directory could be representative for hundreds of applications. And then we might have more direct access in SaaS applications like Salesforce or we might be working directly with a database as a database administrator. So the service desk needs to be able to iteratively work through these lists and add and remove the access as required. Operationally, that's incredibly inefficient, like that manual labor, that manual effort, it is certainly open to mistakes. I might miss a line. I might miss a piece of access that needs to be removed. I might miss a piece of access that should be added. There could be mistakes in that spreadsheet as well. There might be just an [ error in the ] key entry in one of those spreadsheets that breaks access for a particular user or a user can't necessarily be set up because of the quality of the data that's being submitted.

Also, I've spoken to some people at these PSN events that really -- they said they do spreadsheets, but we do all the spreadsheets through PowerShell scripts or scripts. And that's also common as well. But where's the auditability of that? So how do we know that the code that is executing on those spreadsheets is good, right? How do we know that there's not something in that code that is not missing something or maybe that code is really good at adding access or not removing access. What are the guidelines for this code? Who owns it? What if the person who wrote that code leaves the public service and we can't find -- we can't refer back, like how do we audit that? How do we know that this code is good? And what's the reusability of this code? So some really big problems when we're just dealing in the world of spreadsheets.

It's okay, though, we've got a good answer. Accounts keyed in, right? So that's the carry on from spreadsheets. And then we've got access copies like-for-like. This is something else that I heard quite a lot of these government events as well is that, well, how do I set up a user in their target environment, like in their target department? Well, the way that we do it is like we look at somebody else who is similar, maybe a similar manager, similar to the department, similar cost center, similar job code, something like that, and then we just copy and paste that user.

So that is what we would call like Model ID in the old mainframe world where we just take somebody and replicate that person to then set up that new user. But that is quite erroneous. The world kind of moved on from Model ID, and it does present an opportunity for permissions creep or over entitling a person as a part of setting up their access #5 and #6, okay. So we've also got old access disabled later and clean up the third. They're kind of the same, but this is where we're dealing with large volume of change.

Today, I could be dealing with the onboarding of some of this large volume. But tomorrow, I'm going on annual leave, and I'll deal with that disabled access later. This sort of stuff happens all of the time. We have a case study that's in the public domain for a New South Wales government department that utilize an identity management system. And the first use case they decided to knock over with that identity management system was to detect all HR records that are set to terminate, but those people still have active accounts. That government department was able to find 800, I think, around about 800 accounts that were still active for terminated HR records. That's the old, let's disable it later kind of factor or maybe there's other reasons why that was the case.

But humans being humans and the way we are, we often get distracted and there's a lot of competing priorities that we've got to deal with. And so cleanup gets deferred. Old access gets disabled later. What does that mean? It creates exposure for our organizations in the form that a hacker may gain access to one of these highly privileged accounts or just simply dormant active accounts and then use that account for lateral movement. And if nobody is really asking the question of what is this account? And why is it there? Then it tends to just sit there. I see this in the public and private sectors all the time. But we have controls. We have the ability to be able to rein that in using identity management systems to be able to build controls around that and to make things better and especially in a MoG sense.

So we can think of the MoG as an opportunity to perform a cleanup, improve security, buy down a bit of risk, the opportunity is there. Given that there's a lot of movement happening at once, let's take advantage of that what we would call an event, take advantage of the MoG event so that we can improve our security postures.

So when the move is manual, the risk is structural, right? So what's the risk, security, privilege creep. We've already talked about this. As people move through the MoG process, as they move through departments, sometimes users and identities retain their access. For whatever that reason, maybe the person on the service desk forgot or they missed it or they were unaware of some particular access. Those entitlements are accumulated over time.

I think I heard a story about somebody moving across 3 different departments but held the accounts and entitlements from their first department. That is the typical scenario for privilege creep, dominant and orphan accounts. So I've already resigned from the public service and I'm still -- I've still got active accounts or I've moved on from one department to another department, but the accounts in my old department are still maintained as [indiscernible].

From an audit and assurance perspective, this is an audit and assurance nightmare in that like the way that we implement our MoGs through scripts is not really auditable, right? So unless there's some kind of audit log with -- that's been output to a text file that has been saved somewhere, which everybody knows about that auditors can then gain access to or we put that text file into some kind of central data lake, then the data evaporates. And we know that we don't maintain it. Well, I'm sure there's some really good administrators out there who have a good file or folder with all of these logs about all of the changes that occurred as a part of a MoG. But I would say it's not the majority in this case.

So continuity and operational risk because of the operation, because of the volume of changes that take place as a part of a MoG, there's always a continuity and operational risk. When we're making bulk changes across a lot of data, there's always some kind of level of oversight in that maybe we misspell the department name or we removed the wrong entitlement or we added the wrong entitlement or we put the wrong domain suffix in for a cohort of users. We could be dealing with 2 users or we could be dealing with 2,000 users. And maybe there's a few people on this call who would be kind enough to admit maybe when they arrive to work one Monday that none of their access was there. Maybe it was unavailable. In the Q&A, please put your input. I'd love to hear about it.

And there are no doubt incidents that have occurred as a part of dealing with this large volume of change, dealing with a lot of data, inputting it into our technology systems, having an expectation of how our technology systems have been set up and what we expect to work and that results in something -- there's always something that results in unexpected. We've got some really good stories about my time in financial services and some of these large changes that we implemented. It's just a little bit of oversight in maybe a test case that just got missed and it resulted in a SEV 3 or a SEV 2. So this is pretty big in financial services, and we don't want those. But these things happen and doing things manually and step-by-step spreadsheet-based processes increases that operational risk.

Data loss and privacy as well. So the risk there is that you retain access to some data that you shouldn't. So data has classifications. Is it public? Is it private? Is it production or is it development data? Or is it private data or is it subject to GDPR or SOX or some kind of compliance obligation that we might have. And as you move between departments, you may retain access to some of that data, and you could potentially be in breach with privacy legislation as a part of that. So there could be some kind of legislative risk against your department, maybe because of that exposure because somebody retained access that they shouldn't. Okay. So the risk is there right across the tiles.

So let's bring in identity governance and administration. We're going to talk about the breadth of identity governance. Connect, Correlate, Govern, Automate, Prove, like that is such a nice workflow. And that's exactly what an identity governance program does. [indiscernible]. We connect to HR. We connect to all target applications. You might have Active Directory, which is representative of hundreds of applications or Entra, which is representative of hundreds of applications as well. You might have Salesforce and SaaS applications and on-premises applications. These all applications, you might have one or many accounts in each of those applications.

So an identity governance program connects to all of the target applications and then correlates that data. So correlate is just a fancy word for joining that data to a single identity. So we connect to all of your sources and we form an identity. In this case, Will Harrington, and I've connected to all the target applications and gathered all of Will Harrington's account information and correlated it to Will.

So therefore, if I look at Will, I can easily say and make a statement like Will has 50 accounts, okay? So then once we have that model, and you'll hear me talk about the identity model quite a lot, especially on the next slide. And then we aim to govern it. So we've got this nice model, we can overlay policies, roles and governance. So that's the governance part of IGA.

What is governance? So if I go to request access, my manager approves that access, that's governance. That's a control point. And so that provides auditability. It proves why I have that access. Other governance could be an access review that takes a snapshot of me and my access, which my manager or an application owner goes through the list and says, Will should or shouldn't have that access. Identity governance also provides automation. So you'll see this with direct provisioning.

So I talked about manual fulfillment and scripts to provision in target applications. Identity governance systems have hundreds of connectors. And these connectors provide direct connectivity into your targets. And that direct connectivity allows our systems to create accounts, disable, update, delete, move accounts, add entitlements, rename accounts, all of those account management and maintenance kind of operations can all be performed and executed from the identity governance system. So provisioning is really key as a part of this. Think about the volume of changes as a part of a MoG. We may be talking hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands of changes. Why not just automate it? Why do we need it to be manual, right? So we can easily automate when we connect to all of those target systems.

We can also automate the onboarding of new staff members and making sure that when they start on day 1, they have access and they have access relevant to their job function. It doesn't have to be detailed access. It can be just enough so they could do 60%, 70% of their job. And then for that remaining 30%, they can request that additional access, what we would call like an ad hoc access request. And then everything is audited as well.

So when we talk about breadth of identity, we talk about humans, machine accounts, so nonhumans, these can include service accounts, RPAs, bots, but I don't think they're directly involved as a part of the MoG. I've got a slide that talks about it a little bit later and how MoG's and machine accounts kind of have a bit of a peripheral relationship. Then we have third parties. So third parties fall into identity governance as well. You might have a cleaner that needs access to the buildings or you might have a broker that accesses your systems to provide a service on behalf of the government. You might have IT contractors like myself that access your systems to implement new applications and implement and digitize business processes. So IT consultants big within the third-party round. So you've got many ways that you can consider third party. These are basically people who are not coming through your HR system that have access to your IT systems.

Often I see this as just a guest account in Entra, but that guest account has been given some entitlements and entitlements. And look, these accounts, as we stated earlier, should be included as a part of your MoG process as well. You might have an IT contractor in one particular department and they are then being moved to another department or the formation of a new department, maybe it's just a new domain name. So therefore, we need to be able to process that person.

And then we have, last but not least, well, last and least, I suppose, is agents. So agents are getting a lot of chat these days. They're helping us do our work. They're automating business processes for us. They use large language model and generative AI to help us with all types of automation and tasks. One agent is made up of multiples. Tools are the feature within an agent that allow it to gain access to target systems. So maybe you might have 1 agent with 5 tools. And within those tools, that could provide additional information to the agent through connectivity to a data repository, maybe SharePoint, maybe an Amazon S3 bucket, maybe a data lake, maybe a database and maybe it executes a business process. These are what the tools do. In order for tools to execute, they need some kind of credential to be able to authenticate into systems. So therefore, these are highly privileged processes.

And one thing that's probably worth calling out, this is a government session. So APRA recently set some high-level guidelines around the governance and the management of agents, and they've pretty much said that you need to draw a line of accountability. So what that means is that agents need to be owned by a human. What happens when that human moves from one department to another. We need a succession plan. So we can talk about like succession planning as a part of the identity model. And succession planning is probably key within the execution of a MoG.

So the breadth of identity is the types of identities that we have, humans, nonhumans agents and third parties. Now we look down the identity model. So we've got the width. Now we have a look at the depth. We aggregate data from an authoritative source. So in this case, it's always a system of record like HR. HR, when I speak to government clients, they always talk about CHRIS21. CHRIS21 seems to be very popular within government, and that is your HR system, and we often connect to that system to get the authoritative attributes about you.

So what are those authoritative attributes? Those are attributes like your first name, your last name, your preferred name, your middle name, your manager, your department, your cost center, your start date, your end date, everything that we can learn about you. Are you on leave? Are you on long service leave? Have you been suspended? Are you under investigation or something like that? All of that data matters. We use that data to form an identity view of you. So what that identity does is essentially provides a repository to store all of your access information about you and your accounts. So once we have that identity created, that identity is created with attributes. Those attributes are your HR information, and that is what starts to provide the identity management system with context. And context is key as a part of MoG changes, and we'll talk about that flow of information in a second.

But once we have your identity created, we aim to connect to every target system. So I mentioned this earlier, your salesforces, every application that you've got within your department or your organization. We connect to all of those applications. That could be tens of applications. It could be hundreds, it could be thousands of applications. And we aggregate it in to the identity governance system as accounts. And then we sort through all of those accounts and connect those accounts to the relevant identity.

So Will might have 20 accounts across 10 different systems. So I might have multiple accounts in 1 system, and we recognize that. So Will might have 3 Active Directory accounts and 3 Entra accounts. They serve a different purpose. They're meaningful. They're there for a reason, but we still need to connect them to the identity because they're relevant in order to be able to detect and run policy against Will.

So a good example of being able to use just those 2 items of data, identity and accounts. If we think about that Department of Customer Service example, where the first query they wanted to run within their identity management system is show me everybody who is terminated in HR, right, authoritative source, the top-level information gets pushed down. Everybody who is terminated in HR, who has an active account, okay? That is something really easy that can be run as a query against your identity management system.

So immediately from that, we can gain value. We can say, okay, well, let's disable those accounts, sure, all right. So we've got a better security posture now. Maybe we've reclaimed some licenses and we've saved a little bit of cost, like what were those hundreds of accounts that were enabled. Were they costing us money? Were they costing us subscription? Probably. So immediately, we can buy down risk and maybe save some money just by running this simple query just off the top 2 layers of our identity model.

So this next layer down is entitlements. Every account, I might have 20 accounts. Each of those accounts might have 20 entitlements, 400 entitlements that I've got spread across my 20 accounts. And those entitlements provide different levels of risk. Let's use like a very course example, Active Directory, domain administrators, highly privileged entitlement. With it, it brings a high or a critical level of risk because if I am a member of domain admins, it basically gives me the keys to the kingdom. It allows me to access other applications. It allows me to perform lateral movement. It allows me to create my own accounts. It allows me to do everything. It allows me probably to access any application that uses Active Directory as authorization.

So highly, highly privileged group to be a member of. So that's an example of an entitlement. The same works at the other end of the scale as well. There might be entitlements that simply grant access to the lunch order system on the Internet. And that's all grants access to so that anybody, even guests can log in to the Internet just to this one page to have a look at the lunch order system. So this is an entitlement that doesn't really carry with it much risk, but it's still there so that we can look at risk as a whole per identity.

So if you have a look across Will Harrington's 400 entitlements, Will Harrington's 400 entitlements we can then analyze each of those entitlements, analyze the risk they bring to a particular identity. And then we can take that risk rate and apply it to the identity. So you could say, let's have a look at everybody and what is the risk, what is their risk rating, right? So Will, because of his membership in these groups makes them a highly risky identity. Everybody over here because of their memberships have a very low risk rating. So this allows us to make decisions about the [ recent ] MoG. Maybe those risk ratings can as a part of the MoG process.

But I would say the more important thing would be to use because we've got knowledge of entitlements, we know that as a part of a MoG that if somebody moves between departments, whether an entitlement belongs to an application or belongs to a particular department or a government organization. And so we can say, okay, well, you're moving from transport to health, terrible example probably. So therefore, why do you need all your transport access, let's remove it. So we've got a view of the entitlement, we can remove your entitlement. And if there's one common AD account between transport and health, then you can keep your account, but we remove all of your transport entitlements.

So it's good to be able to work at that entitlement level, especially for MoG's because as a part of a MoG, once again, I see it as an opportunity to buy down risk to remove people's access. Having come from financial services as well, when staff members moved across divisions, so if you went from retail banking to wholesale banking or institutional to retail banking or whatever that divisional move was, the action was to immediately remove all of that person's access, just remove it, right? So they're moving into a new division, make that person re-request their access once they have moved into that new division. I think that's great practice. It prevents permissions creep. It gives your organization an opportunity to be able to remove access, remove risk, improve security.

Every entitlement is protecting something. It's protecting a business process, it's protecting a button, it's protecting a data, it's protecting a database, it's protecting something, it's protecting access to it. And in the case of data, we have the ability to be able to look at data and look at the classification labels that are applied to data. So a classification label is maybe something that you set when you send an e-mail and a pop-up comes up and says, is this public or private information or is it confidential or top secret or commercial-in-confidence like these are all classification labels that get applied to e-mails being sent in real time. This is the same applies to data.

So sometimes when you submit a file into SharePoint, you do get prompted to apply classification labels. Sometimes there are background crawlers that interrogate that data and apply classifications based upon what has been crawled within that data. So if it detects private information such as a name or a phone number or an address or a tax file number, these patents can be identified and then classification labels can be automatically applied to that data.

Those classification labels can then be promoted to the entitlement. So then you can ask questions or you can basically say, well, show me all entitlements that are storing or protecting secret information or show me all entitlements that are protecting production information, just as another label. So then you can build policy and ask questions of the identity governance system that uses that data mix, HR context and data context. So top down and bottom up, you can ask an example question could be, show me everybody who has access to the Board papers, okay? That's your classification, who is not on the Board? That is your HR context. Maybe that's your job title, that's maybe in your job description or in your division or however you are modeled as a Board member within HR can then be cross-checked against the data that is available to the person from the entitlement.

So this allows, as a part of a MoG for an analysis to be performed so that as people move from transport to finance that they don't carry over any transport data with them. So as they move into the Department of Finance that they now no longer have access to their transport data and building out these models and correlating accounts and modeling entitlements and rolling all this data under a single identity allows us to do this. So it's a good way of validating the MoG post-move, even analyzing the MoG pre-move as well to say, okay, well, these are all our people. These are all the mistakes in data that people have today. Let's take this as an opportunity to also clean this up. So we've got this 6-layered system that can be used in a multitude of ways to be able to support MoG's.

Okay. So if we have a look at the changes -- change the top of the stack, the rest recalculate. So if we have a look at this kind of all in practice in action, when a MoG is initiated, we expect that there's going to be some kind of HR or payroll change. There's going to be attribute changes at the top. So those attribute changes are things like maybe your department changes or your manager or your job title changes or maybe your e-mail changes, but maybe that gets dealt a little bit further down under the identity reevaluation. So number [indiscernible].

So those big changes happen at the top, we aggregate the data. The identity management system then evaluates this information and it says, okay, well, Will has changed his department from transport to finance. Therefore, let's execute changes based upon this. So using the identity model. So if we go back, we can change his accounts. We can change his entitlements, and we can review his access to data. So any entitlement that has been flagged as being owned by transport as I move to finance, those entitlements can be removed. And there's controls that are built into identity governance platforms that allow us to do this rather effectively.

Every one of these changes is also audited. So we go back to that kind of scripting example where some awesome person has written a script that does all these changes, but how auditable is this? And where is the integrity of this file? And maybe you've got good ways of doing it. I don't know. But tell me otherwise, in the Q&A, add some commentary and say, Will, you're wrong. We do it all through scripts and it's all audited and everything is perfect and cool.

Okay. So the evidence writes itself as a part of this. So imagine taking this 4-step process, big change at the top, the ministry directive, HR attributes are changed, identity recalculation and there's a lot of things that we can recalculate against such as a person's access. We talked about succession of ownership. So should a person still own the accountability for agents and machine accounts, that's a great time to recalculate. Access changes as well, like the entitlements that belong to a particular business process for one particular department, you now no longer need that. Why should you keep it? This is the ultimate question as a part of a MoG, is permissions creep? Let's remove it. Let's just take the opportunity to remove that access, nice and automated.

We're not going to overburden the service desk because it's all directly provisioned because we can connect to those target environments. It's pretty amazing, really that it all kind of just pieces together. And it provides a real valued service as a part of just MoG's for government. The evidence writes itself. Everything is timestamp, everything is audited. I can go back in time and say, well, what access did Will have on May 1, 2024. And that would allow me to then be able to provide accurate audit evidence. Was Will's account used as a part of lateral movement by a hacker yes or no, or what access did he have at that point in time? Oh, he had domain admins at that point in time, but he's now a manager, so he now no longer has it. So therefore, his access was maybe used as a compromise that helps us understand the blast radius of an incident that may have occurred. So maybe that's just a good example.

So let's take a look at some of the controls that are just standard in identity governance platforms. We've got life cycle management. This is basically an event trigger that executes a workflow upon a life cycle change. So what is the life cycle change? It's when a person joins an organization. So when a person moves within an organization, maybe across department. It's also when a person leaves an organization. That's the JML there for you.

So when somebody joins, a series of actions occurred to get that person onboarded. Have they got their laptop? Have they got their password? Has their manager being notified? Have we applied roles, step 2 there to that person. So what we would call birthright roles provide you generalized access, maybe it's access that by virtue of simply being employed, you get that access, and that's what maybe a role can cover as a part of join and mover, lever. And then we have movers, right? So maybe you wish to build your MoG processes into mover. So this is where maybe your manager changes, your job title changes, your department changes. Any of these combinations either individually or combined together can be used as a trigger to then say, okay, well, because these 3 attributes change, let's execute a workflow off the back of that. And that workflow can do all sorts of things like maybe disable accounts or remove access or notify managers or the like.

Then we have lever, termination processes. So in HR, your record has been terminated or you've met or exceeded your termination date. So these are ways that we can calculate termination. And then what do we do? We execute a workflow. We disable accounts. We delete accounts. We move accounts into the correct organizational unit in Active Directory. We notify people. We raise alert to say that we're all about to do this, and this is that flow. So this is what we call life cycle management. And I would say it forms an essential part of a MoG.

So in financial services, we would process a divisional change as a termination and rehire. So we would terminate the person. Maybe I'm wrong there. But anyway, it's a configuration that we often implement, which is termination rehire. So we terminate the identity, delete the -- not so much delete, disable the accounts, move the accounts, remove all the relevant access. And then we rehire, which is basically processing the person through a joiner event again. We reidentify who that same person is, but they've got a different set of attributes that we pull in from HR about that person to then recalculate what their access should be on day 1 post-MoG.

So roles and RBAC, for RBAC roles is basically role-based controls and roles. So roles encapsulate access. And what does that mean? So in order for me to be a Park Ranger, I might need 10 different entitlements. One of those entitlements gives me access to the building. Another entitlement gives me e-mail. Another entitlement gives me access to SharePoint and an Internet page. Another entitlement gives me access to a Teams channel that I use to communicate with my colleagues. Another entitlement gives me access to payroll. So instead of each of those entitlements being granted individually, we encapsulate it in a role. So the role then is used as a part of granting access to that Park Ranger. So instead of being assigned 5 different things, I'm just assigned one thing that then builds efficiency.

So when you apply that logic across a large scale like the public service, the efficiencies are huge because you're dealing with a huge number of accounts, a huge number of applications and a huge number of entitlements, so it has this compounding effect across the entire public service for being able to deliver efficient access requests.

Roles can also be requested through request catalogs. So in the case that the role wasn't automatically assigned because it's the Park Ranger role, right? So it's assigned to all Park Rangers. If I request it, I can still gain the access that is contained within that role. And roles can be structured in such a way where they provide on efficiency. So application teams can define their own roles and then those can then be encapsulated in a much larger, what we call like business roles or organizational roles or functional roles that encapsulate large groups of access under a single role, so you could have a role defined as Park Ranger.

So all Park Rangers get or defined as legal clerk or defined as support worker or whatever it is across the public service, you can define a person's access based on their job function. This is probably the most efficient way of granting access because it encapsulates a lot of entitlements in order to be able to do the job.

So as you can imagine, this provides a lot of efficiency for MoG's as well, especially good for a MoG because roles can be assigned. So therefore, as those HR values change at the top level of the stack, when they change, when I change my title from Park Ranger to Fisheries Officer, whatever it is, then the role that is assigned based on my job title Park Ranger, when my title changes to Fisheries Officer, that role is lost and all of the entitlements that it encapsulates are also removed from my accounts. But then I gain the Fisheries Officer role and therefore, I gain all of the entitlements that are included as part of being a Fisheries Officer.

So this is simply by changing those higher level values that access is automatically reassigned and reapplied based on the actions and the data that exists at that top level. So we have request and approval interfaces as well. So in the case that access can't be automatically assigned based on a job function or an application, I have the option of being able to go to a central familiar common portal to request access in order to be able to do my job. I've just started as a Fisheries Officer. So therefore, I've got some access, I've got e-mail and Internet access, which is just default, but I need some additional access to gain access to buildings. So then I can go and request that individually and that access request is audited and approved.

So we can also define policy and separation, so I can take mixes of that identity attribute data and entitlement data and define conflicting access. So no person who works in accounts payable should have accounts receivable access. So that would be what we call a separation of duties policy, and these can be defined in the system and the identity model can be used as a part of it.

So defining these types of policies could be really valuable for MoG's and the public service in that as you move from one department to another, we know what your job title is and we know what department you're in. So therefore, we can define policies that say, well, if you're in department A, you should never have entitlements from department B. And that would be a policy that we can define within the system. That policy can execute a workflow, it can execute notifications. It can automatically remediate that problem through either disabling the access or removing the offending access and just notifying the correct people to make sure that things are then rectified and done properly.

And then we have user access reviews. This is a snapshot in time for an individual and what access they have at that point in time. We often see this in financial services as well, where a person's job title changes. So then upon a job title change, the new person's manager or let's say, a manager change, the new person's manager then is presented with a list of all access and entitlements for that -- for the user, for the person, and that new manager has the option of either allowing or removing the access that, that person has. So user access reviews are often used as an audit artifact and organizations with highly privileged access are often subject to or obligated to performing user access reviews so that they can guarantee who has a privileged access and who doesn't.

So we always see organizations who perform privileged access reviews for highly privileged entitlements like domain admins, something that you would want to review quite regularly because of its critical risk that opposes to an organization, so members of it. So people review this group quite often, and it's the user access review process that does it.

But in the context of a MoG, this could also be used as a supplementary process that post-MoG changes, the -- all managers then review their direct reports access to make sure that nothing has carried over that they shouldn't have. It is an opportunity for those managers to remove access that is not required for their team to be able to do a particular job. So it's a great tool to be able to support, support activities both pre and post MoG's. So you would almost use the user access review pre-MoG to clean up access to make sure there's fewer items to begin with to have to worry about. And then post-MoG do another UAR so that any manager changes that have occurred as a part of the MoG, they then take responsibility for their direct reports and make sure that everybody has the correct access and nobody is over entitled.

All right. So beyond the org chart, machine agents, data and value. Where do we go? What do we have here? A MoG moves more than people, these capability. Okay. So this is kind of like peripheral items of the MoG, so succession planning for machines and agents. As a part of good security practice, good identity governance, we like to build ownership structures so that any time a machine or a service account is created or an agent is created that we can attribute it to a human, to a person so that if an agent goes rogue, if a service account is used for a hacker's lateral movement, if a service account has been compromised, we can go to the owner of that account and say, what is this? What if a service account is pinging a system or whatever it is, the system is. We've got that ability to be able to draw lineage back to a person so that somebody can be accountable for it.

And as a part of a MoG, this is kind of peripheral, but as people move departments and cross divisions and change their titles and jobs and whatever those large volume changes are, if you now no longer are accountable for some of these nonhuman entities that might exist within your technology system, that because we've got life cycle management and JML as a part of the termination flow, we can ask the question, does this person own any of these highly privileged entities?

And if the answer is yes, who is the next logical owner? Is it that person's manager? Is it the application owner? Is it the divisional lead? Is it the security officer? Is it the CISO? It could be many.

It could be whatever you define, but at least you've got a succession plan for these privileged entities so that they never go unowned because there's nothing worse than having service accounts that nobody knows who the owner is and somebody asked the question, what are these service accounts? What are they doing? Why are they so privileged? Can we disable it? And nobody ever wants to disable these accounts because they don't know what they're going to break, and they don't know where they're being used. Maybe they don't log in. Service accounts don't typically log in. So you can't track them for no log-in. So they do provide a range, a variety of risks because they're normally privileged and they execute our business processes and the like.

So it's always good to have ownership. And if you're running MoG's, ownership will probably get lost. Let's not lose that ownership lineage. So that's what that's about. Data access governance. So this is another peripheral capability of identity management that allows the MoG process to check ownership and permissions on data pre-MoG and then post-MoG . This could just be a validating task that says, okay, well, the changes that we expected to make were made and the people who we expected to lose access lost access, the people we expected to gain access, gained access into their new files and repository.

So data governance tied into identity can certainly be used as a part of MoG processes even if it is just there to validate access. Then we've got activity monitoring and shared signals framework. So with activity monitoring, this is kind of new shared signal framework, a new protocol that is a protocol to formalize event information between technical systems, right? So an event could be from an end-user device management system that says a particular computer or server is out of patch level, right? It's not up to date with its patching. So therefore, let's send an event to the identity management system to remove any entitled or proved access that, that person might be or let's contain that account so that the blast radius is reduced, and it can't be used as a vector for a compromise or a breach.

So this works both ways in that the identity management system can use the shared signals framework and can send activity and event information from the HR the system through -- from the identity management system through to the security operations center and SOX, the SOX and all the tooling within that system as well. So in the event that we do identify an identity with a lot of highly privileged accounts with a lot of highly privileged entitlements, we can change the risk level of that person.

We can say, Will has gone from medium to critical risk rating as an identity, and we can then share that information with the SOC. So then the SOC if, for example, detects that person logs in from a foreign country, can then perform its conditional access policies and say, well, let's downgrade this person to access based upon the risk rating generated by the identity management system and by where this person is logging in from, let's treat this person a little bit differently because they provide an unreasonable level of risk to organizations.

And given sort of the morale aspect of Machinery of Government changes, maybe it presents a higher level of risk in that people through insider threat, maybe choose to exfiltrate data at a particular point in time. These sorts of signals can be detected and automations and workflows can be executed from identity management or the SOC to be able to lock down accounts in order to prevent incidents before they occur.

Then there's the license and entitlement reclamation aspect of identity governance and MoG's opportunity to review all accounts that are no longer needed and disable and remove those accounts so that you may reclaim some cost as a part of that MoG process. So once again, see the MoG for an opportunity, not just an operational burden.

Okay. And so continuing on the theme of the business case development. And the first one here is weeks on day 1 time, time to get access. So this is more of an intangible cost to the whole process in somebody, 1 person, 100 people, 1,000 people might be waiting days or several weeks to regain their access. And there's evidence of this in the VPS, the Victorian Public Service report published by Helen Silver at some point last year. It provides an example of operational inefficiencies due to movement of staff amongst departments. And these are -- these inefficiencies might be the result of people waiting to regain access post-MoG process. And there's evidence that some of these people are waiting between 6 and 8 weeks to regain their access. So that is downtime and inefficiency.

If you had an identity governance system, you'd be able to automate that process, direct provisioning, let's not wait on the service desk to fulfill a ticket. Let's make sure that people have all of the access they need on day 1 to be able to do their jobs. It's easy to build a business case around this because you can build out your estimations. You can say, okay, well, there's these 1,000 people who are sitting around for 6 weeks at an average cost of x and a number of days. So therefore, this is the extrapolated cost of people being ineffective due to MoG's, right?

So if you're building that business case, these are some really good numbers. And they tend to snowball very quickly when talking about people just waiting to gain access to systems. It's easy to sort of spit some numbers together to be able to sort of build it out.

Fewer tickets for a MoG, we're talking about thousands of changes potential and some of those changes are going to be direct today through your scripts and provisioning but some of those are going to result as tickets. What is the cost of a ticket? So this is something that is a bit more of a tangible cost. So you might have 10 service desk staff members that take 100 days to be able to implement the volume of changes that flow down from the MoG. You could easily calculate a cost per ticket to be able to process all of that. So that's a tangible cost. And if you implement an identity governance system that has got good join and mover, lever flows as well as direct provisioning to a lot of target systems, that means fewer tickets. It means less people waiting, but it also means you need fewer people on the service desk to be able to perform the operations that flow down from those MoG's. So that follows on to manual provisioning effort as well.

Audit and compliance, often auditors, internal or external auditors will audit your systems for how somebody got access to something. And when auditors are looking for evidence, they're looking across multiple systems. And they're often working with compliance staff members who are taking screenshots of what -- how access has been set up and they're collating all that information in documents and those documents are sent to the auditors. And there's a better way to do it, and that's through an identity governance system.

So there's another potentially more tangible cost for compliance officers working with the auditors to make sure that they've got all the audit evidence and artifacts together. If you can be more efficient in that process, it means you need fewer people to assist the auditors in getting that data. So more of a tangible cost.

And the last one there is license reclamation. Once again, take the opportunity of a MoG to review who is active or who is relevant for a particular department and making sure that they don't have applications that they don't need as a part of their new job, especially in SaaS, especially for organizations to adopt a lot of SaaS, there should be an opportunity to reduce the cost in terms of licenses.

And then the last one is exposure close, cost of a breach, all in pink, IBM just released the cost of breach report today, I think that's what it's called, and the cost is going up. And the cost is perceived to be maybe low in that it's gone from $4 million per breach to $5 million a breach. So the cost of a breach is going up. But if we have a look and scan the media and the press for some very high-profile breaches that have occurred in Australia, big insurance company, Medibank, Latitude, Optus, Medibank, I just checked an article recently, and the cost is somewhere in the round of $100 million. So this is the result of class actions, lawsuits, new strategies, new transformation projects, adoption of new software. I'm sure it all snowballs into a much larger cost, but the cost of a breach is much higher than $5 million.

I highly recommend the IBM report and that you read it and check it out. It's become a bit of a staple for our talk tracks every year, but it's not surprising to see the cost is going up, and we can only expect more breaches to occur with Agentic technology and AI being used as a part of the offensive approach to exfiltration of data from organizations. So we can only expect more.

And one factor of a breach is reputational damage and I suppose government systems like provide and technology systems and the systems that we all interact with provide efficiencies in services like I can lodge my tax or I can complete the census or I can show my driver's license ID all through these great government systems. But if I don't trust those systems, I'm not going to use those systems. So therefore, we all become less efficient. And if the government can prevent breaches, they maintain trust. So therefore, we use these amazing [indiscernible]. So I suppose that the cost is generalized efficiency and reputation and trust in the systems.

So I'm at the end of the presentation, and I'd be very keen to hear questions. I hope you've been able to keep some questions in as a part of this presentation. And yes, let's answer some of those questions. And yes, thank you.

Also, we have a white paper called Securing Machinery of Government changes, and we'll provide a link to that in the chat box.

All right. Welcome. Thank you all for coming. Really appreciate everyone's effort to get here today. Thank you for all those joining on the web. We have a great program for you today that we're really excited to tell you our story.

So -- but before that, a little bit of housekeeping. If we go to the next slide, it's our safe harbor statement. So this safe harbor will also be available in the presentation posted on the web. So now we're through that.

Let me help frame what we're going to do today. So I think there's really 3 key themes that you're going to hear throughout the day. And the first is innovation. You'll see this clearly in our advancements around AI and real-time governance, which are actively expanding our TAM. And I think you'll also notice it's not just what we're building, but it's the velocity at which we're bringing these things to market.

The second theme throughout today is going to be differentiation. So this starts with our depth and breadth of identity coverage, which gives us the required context to link human and nonhuman identities to their human owner. And this really helps accelerate AI identity security for our enterprise customers.

And then the third theme of the day is really our -- the multiple paths to our fiscal '29 targets. So whether it's acquiring new customers, expanding within our existing installed base or developing new routes to market, we have multiple catalysts that are designed to deliver durable top line growth as well as expanding operating and free cash flow margins. So it's -- I think you'll hear those themes prevalent throughout today. So I just wanted to kind of set the stage.

The agenda for today, I'm not going to drain the slide just in the interest of time so we can get into the program, but we have a comprehensive lineup of product experts, go-to-market leaders as well as partners and customers for you today. So with that, and we have plenty of time for Q&A as well. So save your questions. We'll do those at the end of the first section and at the end of the day.

So with that, it's my great pleasure to get started and introduce SailPoint's CEO and Founder, Mark McClain. Mark?

Well, good morning, and welcome, everyone. It's so good to be with you today. If you look at the daily headlines, there's a lot coming at us, rapid AI advancements, shifting markets, macro disruptions. We're operating in a period of unprecedented change, which I would prefer to refer to as the new normal. And this new normal of constant change leads to a sense that to survive, you must adapt all day, every day.

And for those of us who have navigated some pretty choppy waters before, things like COVID or the mortgage crisis or even 9/11, we know a fundamental truth. Disruptions always precede significant market redefinitions where new winners emerge and others get left behind. In these times of deep uncertainty, the instinct for many companies is to just play it safe to blend in, try to weather the storm. But at SailPoint, we fundamentally reject that approach. We're not in this game just to survive. We're in it to win.

And to understand how we win, let's look at the evolution of our space. Let's talk about what's been changing in identity governance and administration, or IGA, and where it's going to go from here. Just as the overall technology market is undergoing a massive structural redefinition in the age of AI, IGA is also undergoing a massive structural redefinition. And we believe there are 5 dimensions of IGA in which critical shifts are happening.

First, timing. We're moving from periodic policy time reviews to continuous real-time security posture. Second, structure. We're abandoning static rigid governance in favor of dynamic adaptive security. Third, coverage. The scope of identity has aggressively expanded from humans to humans and agents, not or and in all of the supporting nonhuman identity elements. And fourth, privilege. We are moving away from permanent privileged access for a few toward rightsized, democratized privilege for all. And fifth and surrounding all of it, defense. Security operations can no longer operate in various silos. Modern security operations must encompass everything from the cloud to the network to the device with identity at the absolute center. This isn't just an evolution of IGA I'm talking about. This is the evolution of enterprise security itself.

If you have proof of this evolution, let's just take a look at some math. Years ago, when we went public the first time in 2017, we defined the market opportunity is about $10 billion. By our Analyst and Investor Day, the first one we did in 2021, we'd expanded that to about a $20 billion TAM. When we reemerged as a public company in 2025, we believe that addressable market expanded to $55 billion. And today, we can credibly claim that the TAM has now expanded to $90 billion for this marketplace.

And this isn't about a growing TAM. It's about the validation of identity as the core of security. This $90 billion TAM reflects the aggressive expansion of traditional IGA to address challenges like agentic AI, next-gen privilege, data access and threat response. And today, you see these issues represented in distinct individual markets like ITDR, identity threat detection and response, ISPM, identity security posture management and IVIP, a newer one, identity visibility and intelligent platforms. But now we believe all of these will be converging into something we call adaptive identity.

Identity has become the critical element of enterprise security. And today, we're going to tell you why SailPoint is positioned to be the biggest winner in that game. And when a market gets attractive, it draws a lot of attention. More companies jump into the game, the noise gets louder, and it's really loud in identity today. In fact, we'd say that the identity security market has entered a phase of message convergence as announcements and claims are arriving at an unprecedented pace, all with a pretty similar set of messages. And with all that noise, it's tough to stand out. It's tough to separate the signal from all that noise.

As Seth Godin once argued in a great book in a crowded market, playing it safe is the riskiest strategy of all. A white cow is visible, but you stop noticing them after the first few, but a purple cow. Now that gets talked about. That gets remembered, that gets sought out. And right now, the identity security market feels like it's full of a lot of white cows. Lots of vendors reacting to this shift by making the exact same announcements.

But here's the reality for all of you behind all that noise. It is, as we say in Texas, all sizzle and no steak. Whereas we also like to say in Texas, a lot of these competitors are big hat, no cattle. Anybody can put out a press release, talk about identity and AI. But when it comes down to it, these vendors cannot handle the deep, messy complexity of the modern enterprise as it escalates into an agentic world. At SailPoint, we deliver the steak, not just the sizzle. We deliver the substance.

So fair question, how do we deliver that substance? It really comes down to 3 interrelated advantages: our breadth, our depth and our unparalleled ability to accelerate into agentic AI. Let's start with depth. No one in this industry has our history or our granularity of control. We have 20 years of managing fine-grained human identity data by working with many of the world's largest, most complex enterprises. Today, we manage over 5 billion entitlements across those enterprises. In fact, we possess what we call the steel thread. It's the ability to trace a human identity as it utilizes various nonhuman identity accounts and services, agents, et cetera, all the way down to the deepest, most granular data levels of the enterprise. And you cannot build that overnight, and you cannot fake it. Our heritage is not a liability. It actually gives us credibility as this new world emerges.

But not just depth, now there's also breadth. We are the trusted control plane for over 3,200 organizations, many of them in the Fortune 5000. And we are actively governing over 145 million identities by automating more than 35 billion SaaS account changes every year. We don't manage just some subset of those human identities. We manage all of them. We are the #1 cross-platform identity provider in the world today, whether it's Azure, AWS, Bedrock, Salesforce or even older legacy on-prem applications and our customers, our platform connects, covers them all with breadth and depth. But as they say, since a picture is worth a thousand words or at least a few hundred in today's economy, this 2x2 matrix should help.

So on the horizontal axis, you've got breadth. In other words, how much of the identity landscape do you cover? On the vertical axis, you've got depth. How granular is your visibility and control? Well, when you map out the core identity competitors and where they're coming from, the limitations are pretty obvious, right? If you look at the SSO and access management vendors, they absolutely cover breadth, right? They touch every employee identity or every human identity. But truthfully, they have very little depth. They're a mile wide and an inch deep. They have the ability to let you in the front door as we've used this analogy with some of you before. But once inside, they aren't aware of, they're blind where you're going in the building.

On the other axis, if you look at the heritage of the PAM and privilege market, they have lots of depth, but very little breadth. They govern a tiny fraction of all the identities in the enterprise and are virtually blind to the rest of the landscape. At SailPoint, 20 years of solving hard identity problems across the entire landscape means we have the pattern recognition that the others don't. And as always, in these 2x 2 charts, the place you want to be is the upper right hand, isn't it? The top right quadrant.

SailPoint sits here pretty much alone in this collection of vendors. We believe no other company can viably claim that combination of breadth and depth at scale, period. Having both breadth and depth is, in fact, a pretty massive structural moat. But here's the critical part. AI is now becoming a significant multiplier to that advantage. If you feed AI, shallow data from a tool that either lacks breadth or depth, you're going to get limited or maybe even questionable outcomes. But because we possess 20 years of the deepest, broadest identity data on earth, our AI is intelligent, very intelligent, extremely intelligent about what happens in all those complex interrelated entitlements. And we're using it to massively accelerate and extend our lead, extending it to this newest paradigm, the wild explosion of the agentic workforce.

And we're not just about defending our current market share, we're aggressively capturing this new explosive TAM. And that's by focusing on, again, the wild explosion of nonhuman identities or NHIs, as you've heard him refer to. And agentic AI. With that, we are establishing a powerful new growth engine, which we expect will drive over $100 million of AI-related ARR at the end of this fiscal year. depth, breadth and unparalleled AI acceleration. We believe SailPoint is uniquely positioned with the platform, the data and the proven enterprise experience to get our customers where they want to go.

As I said earlier, our vision to address this world is what we refer to as adaptive identity. And we believe it's the only way forward, dynamically adjusting access for all identities, human or nonhuman based on real-time risk, context and observed behavior. We're bringing this vision to life through 2 distinct accelerated paths. First, we're sitting at the cutting edge of securing this rapidly expanding agentic workforce, specifically in the context of the human workforce. It's not just about securing agents. It's about securing them in the context of humans, and that's why the end matters so much.

You cannot secure agents in a vacuum as some of these start-ups would have you believe. To govern nonhuman identities, they must be tethered to a human owner or a human context. To conquer this new frontier, last month, we introduced the SailPoint Agentic Fabric right here at NASDAQ. It places agents into the context of that human workforce, bringing them fully under control. Ultimately, it ensures that the entire human and agentic environment remains secure in real time, all the time.

But we're also focused on massively accelerating how customers can get to this future nirvana state. As you know, many enterprises today are bogged down by massive technical debt. They're paralyzed by trying to rip out rigid, broken legacy systems from other vendors or some of them even have challenges to manage and upgrade from our own on-prem solution, IdentityIQ. Well, today, we are radically simplifying this process to get our customers to Nirvana by introducing SailPoint Agentic Acceleration, which is a methodology, but it's powered by a brand-new technology we call the SailPoint Virtual Architect.

The SailPoint Virtual Architect maps all that legacy structure, wherever it's coming from, leverages AI not just to do a lift and shift, but to design the most efficient solution in the new realm and then accelerates migration to that with unprecedented speed. Put really simply, we're using AI to map the path to AI, defining the ultimate nirvana solution and accelerating our customers' ability to get there. And we're going to do that faster and better than anyone. We're doing all of this through relentless ongoing innovation, both organic and inorganic.

In just a few minutes, you'll hear from Chandra about the capabilities we've been busy building here at SailPoint, but we continue to strategically insert acquired technologies into our road map to accelerate our vision. Just yesterday, as you saw, we announced our intent to acquire Entro Security to deepen and widen, sound familiar, our controls for nonhuman identities. And we'll continue to scour the landscape for cutting-edge technologies that help us bring our road map to life even faster.

So as I wrap it up, we've been a leader in IGA space for many, many years. By pairing our 2-decade human identity advantage with our new Agentic Fabric, we believe we have the most complete adaptive identity solution in the market bar none. And now with Agentic Acceleration, we can move customers to that desired destination faster than anyone else.

To show you how exactly all of this is going to translate into undeniable financial execution, I'm going to steal just a little bit of Brian's thunder coming up. Today, we're going to clearly demonstrate why we expect ARR growth to accelerate as we deliver more than $2.1 billion of ARR in fiscal '29. And we expect about 40% of that revenue to be AI-generated, agentic related. We're also getting there responsibly, as Brian likes to say. When we hit that $2.1 billion milestone, we expect to generate at least $400 million of free cash flow. As I noted, Brian is going to go into this in a lot more detail just in a few hours this morning.

So let me say it again, we expect SailPoint's growth to accelerate. The demand for enterprise-grade multi-cloud identity governance is exploding as organizations rush to secure their AI investments and machine environments. With our specialized focus, commitment to innovation and the rapid scaling of these Agentic solutions toward our $100 million target this year, SailPoint is distinctly positioned to continue to lead in the next era of identity security.

So as I close, let me turn this over to Chandra. Let me tee up a little bit by highlighting again the 4 big challenges we are focused on for our enterprise customers around the globe. First, they're looking to us to help them secure this wild explosion of agentic workforce in the context of their human workforce. Secondly, they need us to help them move their enterprises to real-time adaptive identity security. Third, they need us to help them democratize privilege by ensuring dynamic, rightsized access for every identity, human or nonhuman. And fourth, we're going to help them bring identity and the security operations center together for truly effective, truly comprehensive threat response. So with that, thanks again for joining us today.

Let me now hand it over to my colleague, Chandra.

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Good morning, and welcome again. Mark really set the stage. What I'm going to do is really get into innovation, talk about customer outcomes and really talk about how we are using AI.

So if nothing, I would like you to walk away with 3 things today. One is there are 2 big rock, big mega growth innovations that we are going to be working on for the next 2 years. One is agentic. Second one is we are moving governance of human beings, which we have done for 20 years from static to real time. Number two, we fundamentally believe, just given the security world today, it's time to move all of our customers to a minimum of least privilege and zero standing privilege and ultimately to our vision of autonomous identity, which is really think of it as the Waymo of the identity world. It's a self-correcting, self-healing platform.

And third, we are quite excited about the way -- the 3 different ways in which we are using AI, and we are incredibly proud of the product velocity. We have really -- our product velocity has gone up by 2.5x in the last 18 months, and it's continuing to accelerate.

So before I dive into this, I want to set the stage for what we believe is a new normal in the world of threat and security. And the way to think about this is the time it takes to go from finding a vulnerability when you actually find a vulnerability to actually a bad actor being able to exploit it. About 3, 4 years ago, it used to about take a year, right? So when a large corporation found a vulnerability, they will actually issue a CVE, and it took the bad actors roughly about a year to get to it. As long as you patch it within that, you're good.

Today, that 1 year has come down to a day. And it's trending more towards an hour. And just think of that change where from the moment you find a vulnerability to when it could be exploited, it's trending towards 1 hour. And it's largely driven by advanced models like Mythos and GPT 5.5. It's organized cybercrime activity, dev environments being overly permissive. It's a combination of it. But it's a stratospheric change in the world of security. And it's really against this backdrop that we are shifting from just securing and governing humans to securing and governing human plus AI.

And when I say AI here, I mean broadly. Mark really referred to them as agents. It could be agents, nonhuman identity, credentials, right, bots, all of it, all of it includes. We at SailPoint think of all of it collectively. And this whole human, and it's not just human plus AI. it's actually the ratio. The ratio matters. We are beginning to -- well, we are at roughly about 1:100 across all of our customer base, and it's trending more towards 1:1,000. So for every human, we are going to find about 1,000 AI identities or nonhuman identities.

At that scale, architecturally, you have to really shift to more of a real-time architecture as well as what we call security in line, meaning when you have the ratio of 1:1,000, literally a Global 1000 will have millions, if not tens of millions of these nonhuman identities, right? That can do things autonomously. So the only way you can actually manage and be secure is the ability to respond to a threat in real time with deep identity context. That's really what we are building here.

Now this human plus AI has actually introduced 2 fundamentally new identity security problems today. So what I want to do is frame those problems conceptually before I go deep into it. So I'm going to just illustrate it with some very conceptual basic use cases, right? The first one is really about a human or an AI developer writing code and putting that code in a GitHub repo or an agent or a human accessing an API. That itself is not new. The fact that those -- the GitHub repo and the API, they have credentials, which are really machine reading -- machine-readable credentials, tokens and keys. That is also not new.

What is new is the fact that these were -- these have been largely unmanaged and ungoverned, right? A lot of them, by the way, they would not be rotated for like years and years. You can no longer afford it. If you leave a key now that is not rotated frequently, the chances are it's going to get hacked into and your code could be stolen. That is new.

The second one is really the autonomous AI use case, which is you have a big agent calling smaller agents, right? And the smaller agents are the subagents accessing application and data. This flow is very, very new. And this whole chain needs to be governed, right? They need to be discovered. You have to make sure they are authorized to only access the data they are supposed to on behalf of the human they are acting. These 2 conceptual use cases is what we refer to as the agentic security and governance problem.

Now on the human side, the question is what's changed because humans have always had access to application and data. What has changed is the fact that the bad actor now can use these advanced models, advanced tech to really hack into these application and data in no time. And this is why this timeframe -- the time to exploit a vulnerability going down to another is really -- it really matters. In that world, you can no longer rely on these applications and data being fully secure. You have to fundamentally reimagine how humans access this application and data. That's why static governance, static privilege is dead. You can't afford it. It's grossly insufficient. You have to move -- you have to really risk evaluate every access a human or an agent has to the application and data. That's what we mean by shifting human governance from static to real time.

These are the 2 problems we are fundamentally committed to solving. And our big growth innovations that I talked about, agentic, real-time human governance are about solving those 2 problems. And we launched our Agentic Fabric, which is our fabric to solve end-to-end agentic here at the NASDAQ last month. It will be GA in the next 2 months, in less than 2 months, real-time human governance. It's really -- all of you are familiar with our Identity Security Cloud, ISC. This is an upgrade to ISC. This is -- we are really delivering next-generation human governance or real-time human governance through next-generation ISC. And Atlas is the engine. It's a shared services layer. It's an engine that powers both of these innovations.

Now here is what we're excited about, right, which is solving the agentic problem. There is a new role in every large corporation today. It could be described as a Head of AI. In some places, it's actually committee and so on. But that's a new role. And the real-time human governance is no longer in the realm of just the identity department, it's the CISO and the entire CISO's office that's really responsible for it. So we are becoming strategically more relevant as well as the wallet size. The wallet size goes up when you go solve these 2 problems with those 2 executive buyers. This is why we are quite excited about where we are innovating.

Now the solution to this, the SailPoint solution to this for both agentic as well as real-time human governance has 3 pillars: discover, govern and protect. Now for the last 20 years, right, we have talked a lot about discover and govern, right? That's really what a great IGA platform does. We are now innovating on that for this new identity type call agents and machines, right? But Protect is new. This is new. This is why SailPoint is no longer your old legacy IGA. It's not even your grandmother's identity platform or your parents identity platform. This is a new SailPoint, and we are really innovating on protect.

I'll talk about what I mean by that. But this is -- and when Mark talked about how our TAM has really expanded even since we went IPO from $55 billion to $90 billion, a good chunk of it is driven by the fact that we are governing a net new identity type call agents. It's also because both for agents and for humans, we are now not just in the discover and govern -- sorry, in the governance game, we are also in the protect game. With that, let me just dive in, right, and talk about what we are doing in both agentic as well as real-time human governance. And I'm going to really focus on what's new and what makes us very, very unique in solving these problems.

So starting with discovery. Look, we are super thrilled about the acquisition of Entro, which I think is very, very complementary to what we do. So with that, we have the most robust. I can confidently say we have the most robust discovery mechanism of any agent, nonhuman identity type. Entro covers more than 1,200 nonhuman identity types. And so we have the most robust mechanisms to discover agents and machines and credentials from any platform in the world. But what makes us really special is the fact that we will be the registry right, which means you are -- the moment an agent or a nonhuman is discovered, it gets -- so think of us as the or the warehouse where all of it is stored, we automatically correlate it to the deep human context that Mark talked about, right?

And so if it's -- so let's take this persona, Bob. Bob has a coding agent, right? So it's not just correlating the fact that the coding agent, clot co coding agent belongs to Bob, it's also all of the fine-grained context that is associated with Bob, right? So we do that automatically in our registry.

The second one, we are getting into posture, okay? This -- we are going to be introducing the SailPoint risk score, which is a mechanism to really evaluate risk at an individual identity level, both for humans and agents. And it's a configurable mechanism because what risk means changes from one company to another. So we're going to -- we will give our customers the ability to configure how they calculate the risk score. But because in a world where you have millions, tens of millions of agents inside a corporation, you've got to have real-time visibility into what the risk is, right? And so that's really what the SailPoint risk score will provide. That's really on discover.

On govern, what's net new here or what's special is really we will be the first to market with our agent audit product in less than 2 months. So look, human access has been audited and has been regulated for a long time. The same thing is coming for agents. It's going to be a lot more complicated, a lot more complicated. Already, there are about a dozen frameworks. Every country seems to have its own framework for auditing agents. Lots of industries like health care and others, banking have their own frameworks for -- so -- but we are an audit company. We know this. This is in our wheelhouse. So what we have done is consolidate all that into 10 controls. We are going to be launching that very soon, right? And we are working with all the big 4 audit firms actually, quite frankly, to make sure when we really come to market, it's very, very pragmatic.

On the protect side, there are a few things I would love to highlight. One is just-in-time real-time authorization. Look, the hundreds of trillions of dollars that is getting spent in the world of AI and in the world of agent it all boils down to the fact that enterprises will have to use them to automate business processes to change the way they work. Doing so requires, which means a bank will automate loan origination and an insurance company will automate claims processing. Doing so requires these agents access application and data. That is where just-in-time and real-time authorization comes in.

And having the human context matters because when a multi-agent network is authorizing a loan, it's acting on behalf of an underwriter. And you don't want this agent to access anything that the underwriter does not have permission to. That's why mapping the agent context to the human context during authorization is the only way to do it. This is where we are highly differentiated.

Second thing is prompt security. Like every one of you here, I'm sure you are all prompting in some foundation model, 20, 30 times a day. One of the biggest threat vectors is that prompt being poison, the prompt being hijacked. It's a huge security issue. And our prompt security, because we have a browser architecture now, we have a plug- in the browser, we can intercept these prompts in real time. We are doing -- we're using machine learning to classify the prompts into high risk to low risk. And if we see something, let's say, an employee trying to upload some confidential data into ChatGPT to do some analysis, that's not safe and we'll block it. So we will be doing things like that.

And the third one is really response remediation. In a world when you have tens of millions of agents running around, you have to assume breach at all times. Anything else, you're really kidding yourself. There is some breach of some agent or some machine at any given moment in every corporation. And so in that world, the only thing you can and should do is have the ability to respond to it in real time. So what we are doing, we are launching this product in the next few weeks called response remediation, where any time there is a breach, we have receivers that are really listening to events. So we have built a whole event mechanism using the SSF protocol, which is an industry standard. And we are creating what we call a SOC package with deep identity context.

So if, let's say, one of you as an agent that gets hacked, we will create a package on what critical data that agent has access to and what the blast radius is and send it to the SOC so that the SOC analyst who is analyzing the breach can actually use that to be surgical in the response. Doing these things is a game changer. Now as you will see, we also believe from an outcome perspective, the minimum in the world of agents is actually 0 standing privilege, not even least privileged, certainly not static. And our fabric automatically delivers that. That's our promise.

Now before I get into real-time human governance, I want to just mention a word on Entro. So we are quite excited. Entro is a market leader in nonhuman identities. A simple way to think about this is the world of secrets and tokens and API keys and JWT tokens and certificates and so on, right? They're world-class in managing not just discovering, governing and protecting them, right? And so once we close, which should be soon, we are going to be very aggressive in integrating all of Entro into the SailPoint Agentic Fabric. And so you should hear more from us on it. We have publicly announced a Q3 close maybe earlier. But I think we're going to be super aggressive in terms of integration, more to come on that.

Now real-time human governance, right? Let me just demystify real-time human governance a bit because there is a lot said about static real time, what the hell does it mean, right? So governance has always been about who has access to what, right? Now what has changed is who has access to what, where, when and why. Answering the where, when and why is really what the security folks likes to call risk context. When you really hear the word, that's really what it is, right?

So I'm just going to bring it to life with this persona called Bob. Let's say, Bob is an analyst at a large corporation. It's really questions like should Bob have access to financial data 24/7 or should Bob only have access to the data a week before earnings, a week after earnings and no more. Should Bob have access to Salesforce data inside salesforce.com when Bob is on vacation on a public WiFi. Bob has access to an SEC folder inside the corporation. Should Bob have access to it at all times or only doing a confidential M&A project. In all of those situations, there is some condition based on which Bob has access. That's really the essence of real-time human governance. So you don't assume that Bob has access to everything all the time. You are gating Bob's access. That is simply the world of real-time human governance applied to both agents and for humans.

Now doing so requires a few things, which is what we have completely built here. Doing so requires the ability to classify the application and data that Bob is accessing, which is what we call privileged classification, you will see here, right? Now you've got to be able to apply that to not just Bob, every -- an average Fortune 500 corporation has 60,000 employees, 60,000. Everyone should be privileged, not just 3% or 4%, which is really today, right? Everyone should be privileged. Not -- it doesn't mean every access they have, everything will go through just in time, but at least you are risk evaluating their access. That's what we mean by democratizing privilege.

We are bringing privilege everywhere. Doing so requires classifying applications and data, which is what we are doing now. Once you do that, you've got to have the mechanism to do just-in-time authorization, right? Like I talked about, you only have access, Bob only has access a week before a week after earnings and so on. So that means you're doing just-in-time authorization. Bob doesn't -- it's not really static access. That is to the right, just-in-time and real-time authorization.

Now there should be policies, right? Every role based on context will have policies based on which their access should be governed. That's what in the middle we mean by governance being driven by policy and intent. not just roles. It's not just, well, Bob's role is that he can have access. No, there should be policy that will govern conditions based on which Bob will have access or not. That should be done for all roles. Hopefully, that sort of demystified real-time human governance. We are delivering -- so we have a big launch event in early August in Black Hat. That's when we are formally launching real-time governance or human governance. It's really an upgrade to ISCR.

President Matt Mills likes to talk about it as it's not a migration, it's an upgrade, just like how you would walk into Apple Store and upgrade your iPhone from one version to another. That's exactly what we are doing here. It's not a migration. So that's why we are confident as our customers move to our agentic suites, which will have real-time human governance, they will automatically go through the journey of moving to least privilege and 0 standing privilege. That's our promise.

Let me spend a minute on this notion of autonomous identity because I said that's our end state. Think of -- look, I think scale is important, right? The context is why do we need autonomous because of scale, right? When you have tens of millions of identity, today, corporations are used to, like I said, the average Fortune 500, 60,000 employees. So you have 60,000 identities. In the future -- or like -- sorry, not even in the future, today, the ratio is at least 1:10. So or 1:100. So you're talking about 6 million identities, 1:1,000, you're talking about 6 billion identities, right -- sorry, 600 million. So these are like massive numbers.

And the only way -- so you can't have a human in the loop all the time, looking at what's happening with 6 million, 60 million, 600 million nonhuman identities all the time. So what we are doing is building a fleet of agents. These are called guardian agents that are autonomously looking at everything that's happening with the identities inside a corporation and looking at whether they are acting inside the policy, outside the policy, anytime they see drift, it will automatically take some action based on policy, right, meaning if it's a small drift, it will actually stop it. If it's a major drift, it will alert the SOC or it will alert a human owner. This is our vision for autonomous identity. You should really expect us to be delivering some of the early capabilities in this early next year, but we are working on it, and it's quite exciting.

So I talked about Atlas being the engine that powers all of this. And we launched Atlas about, I think, 3, 4 years ago. And there has been a ton of innovation in it. The one I would like to highlight is all the things we are doing to really get into protect, right? Remember, I talked about discover, govern, protect and protect is new. So we are building a risk engine, a policy engine, intent engine. As we move to just-in-time and real-time authorization, we are moving a provisioning model from static provisioning to dynamic provisioning. All of this is getting built into Atlas. And so when we launch our -- the next-generation ISC with a new brand, the next version of -- the next generation of Atlas will go with that new brand as well. So please stay tuned on that.

We are also very, very excited about extending Atlas, right? So we have our ecosystem of partners that build on Atlas today. They use our APIs, workflows and so on. What we are doing is really building -- we will be giving them the ability to extend Atlas. So if you're an ecosystem partner, you can configure your UI, you can configure your workflows, you can potentially extend the data model we have and so on, right? This is quite exciting, which we believe and Matt will formally announce a new monetization model for how we are going to monetize the ecosystem and give them access to our platform. This is going to enable that.

Let me send -- Mark, at a very high level, talked about the breadth and the depth, right? And I want to link it to the next level of how our product is differentiated. And I think the best way to understand is using a building metaphor, right? Our -- because we are very bullish and confident that we are the most differentiated platform to govern and secure both agents and humans in real time. And it comes from the fact that we have a foundation, which is what Mark referred to as a red thread. The ability to connect a human to a nonhuman context, it's not just that. It's the full depth of that context, which is what application, what data, what accounts, right?

And now imagine the ability to do it across thousands of platforms. The agent here could be in AWS. The machine could be in Google. The application could be Salesforce. The data could be in Snowflake and so on and so forth. Imagine the ability to do that across all platforms, which is what we have. We have the most robust connectivity infrastructure in the whole world. And so this is really the foundation.

On that foundation, we have built an authorization layer. We are the authorization last mile. We are the authorization execution layer. We are an authorization company. We are just moving it to real time. We are moving it to the world of agents. And all of these capabilities here are required to do authorization really well. Look, authorization requires data. You can't authorize if you don't know who has -- who should have access to what and when, which is what the foundation provides. This is a sale point differentiation, right? This is -- so we have -- the strength we have built over the last 20 years, we are now adding to it with all the agent context. And this is the complex engineering we have done, already done, and this is what is getting released now.

Now on top of these 2 is the second floor, which is all of the customer innovation I talked about, discover, govern, protect, all of it is on the second floor. Now the start-ups of the world are starting on the second floor. They don't have the foundation. They don't have the floor one. And what happens to a building if you try building a second floor without the foundation, right? That's why it's shaky. And our big platform competitors, look, CrowdStrike and Palo Alto and ServiceNow, they're all cooperators because we partner with them as well. But even they have strands of identity context nowhere near the -- none of them are identity companies. They're all trying to get into the identity world, right? And so that's why we feel very, very bullish about the durable differentiation we have.

Now those were all the customer-facing innovations. There is a ton we are doing on the operational innovation side as well. So I'm just going to highlight a few. Architecture. There are 2 fundamental shifts that we are really rewiring for. One is moving to real time, two is building for agent scale. Like I talked about 1:1,000. It's a different game altogether. And so -- and it's -- and we're doing it through people. You might be wondering, wait, guys, you've been building static for 20 years. How did you just do it?

So my own leadership team, Fuad, Levent, Mitra, they have really come from places like Microsoft, Okta, Salesforce, SentinelOne. And the next level leadership is where we have also hired some fantastic leaders from CrowdStrike, Salesforce, Palo Alto Networks who have been there done that. And so they are being complemented with our existing talent, and SailPoint has always been distinctive in terms of domain expertise for identity. That combination is really the magic. That's how we are driving the architecture shift.

User experience, we hired Mahin, who is our Head of Design that is really leading our excellent design team, which we have had for a long time. And Mahin sort of believes in this notion of design should follow a user's emotion. And so you should really expect to see a lot more reimagination. We are fundamentally reimagining the SailPoint user experience. You will actually hear more from us on it. And it will start with our Agentic Fabric launch in less than 2 months. You will see -- and Levent will show it, by the way. He's going to do a demo. You will start seeing glimpses of the new SailPoint user experience.

Security, this is a big deal for us, right? I talked about the new normal, right? We are quite religious about it, quite frankly. So we are using all of the advanced tech. It's more than that. We are also rewiring how we build products, and it's a fundamental cultural change. Now the world is less global. It's gotten more complicated. There are lots of sovereign needs. That's why we will soon be announcing our support for 5 different sovereign needs, including FedRAMP High here in the U.S. as well as things like PCI for the payment industry, EU Sovereign Cloud, availability in South Korea locally and GXP for the life sciences industry. And there are a few more coming. Expect us to formally announce these things, but I want to give you a sense of where we are headed because without these, it's hard to do business on a global basis, but doing these will give us a real competitive differentiation.

Now I call this the AI triple play. We are using AI -- or sorry, we are protecting our customers' AI. That's a sale point for AI. AI for SailPoint, which is all about how we are using AI, and we are using it to build our products, which is really tripling our velocity. Now we're also an open ecosystem.

And so one of the things that I want to highlight is Chet Kapoor runs security at AWS, which is one of our deepest partners. And Chet apologizes for not being able to be here in person, but he wanted to represent his views on our partnership to me, which is we are a deep partner, right? And so we are one of the very few identity -- large identity players in their Security Hub+, which is a second-party marketplace they have as well as we participate early with them on a number of innovations, right? And so then there are other partners like Snowflake and CrowdStrike and so on. So we're really an open architecture.

Now I want to take it back to where I started, 2 Big rock innovations, 2 big customer outcomes and AI triple play. Thank you for listening. And with that, I would like to show you things now for which I'm going to invite my good friend and colleague, Levent Besik.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you. I should probably plug my laptop in. All right. Are we getting the -- perfect. All right. Good morning, everyone. I'm Levent Besik, the Chief Product Officer here at SailPoint. As Mark and Chandra mentioned earlier, we're on the frontiers of innovation to provide best-in-class identity security for humans and nonhuman workforce and enterprise. Today, I'd like to show you some key innovations that we've been working on and we've built for our customers. And all of these are either available today to our customers or will be very soon.

I'll first start with SailPoint Agentic Fabric, which is our end-to-end solution to discover, govern, audit and real-time protect AI and nonhuman identities. I will then showcase our AI-driven privilege classification and just-in-time authorization capabilities as part of our real-time human governance.

So let's start with our Agentic Fabric. Today, the fastest-growing, most highly privileged workforce inside any global company is nonhuman identities, which, of course, includes service accounts and machine secrets and now autonomous AI. Some of our customers see over 100x more nonhuman identities than humans. So visibility and the unified inventory, as Chandra said, with human and data context is the first step and super critical for our customers to secure this new nonhuman workforce. After all, if you cannot see them, you cannot govern them. If you cannot govern them, you cannot secure them. So let's bring down the lights and take a look.

All right. Welcome to the unified AI and nonhuman identity dashboard powered by SailPoint Agentic Fabric. So right from the single pane of glass, and identity admin gets an immediate comprehensive health check of their entire nonhuman and AI ecosystem. With our AI-enhanced connectors that can virtually connect to all enterprise platforms as well as our sensors now that are deployed actually on the browsers and on endpoint clients, we provide one of the most complete views of nonhuman identities and their human context in one place.

There are multiple dimensions of insights here that I want to go through that really reveal your security posture very quickly. So for instance, right here, you can see the total number of nonhuman identities. You can see the number of total active agents across your entire enterprise. Many of our customers for the first time ever see us realize how large their AI and nonhuman identities are. And you can see all their exposed secrets, you can click in each of these and go drill down. And we also show not just managed agents, but the shadow agents that obviously the administrators may not know about. And of course, the nonhuman high-risk agents and the abnormal behaviors that they might be utilizing, right, or they might be displaying. So this is a critical security insight that many of our customers, as I said, don't completely realize until they use our fabric for the first time.

But let's dig in to nonhuman identities in a little more detail. So here, you see all of our nonhuman identities, in this case, the tokens that you can -- an admin can look through slice and dice and look at the security, severity and different aspects of it. Let's just focus on the high-risk ones, for instance. But this is -- this shows you all of the critical factors that admin makes, right, to understand the security posture.

But let's dig in into one of these to see what we actually see. So here in this case, this is -- it's a token. You can see there's a critical issue here. So let's understand what's going on here very quickly. We see the owner. We see the last time it was rotated. Clearly, that's flagged as a risk factor. And it's in a production system of some sort. But here is a unique differentiator as Mark and Chandra told us, our Agentic Fabric has a depth and breadth of human and data context. So we can add this to this view. And because we have that context, we can do some amazing things. We can create a complete lineage ramp.

So let's go through what that looks like. So in this case, let's look at this token's life cycle, right? This was a token owned by Doron. It was created in a browser and used in a few places. But here's an interesting piece. This token has high administrative privileges. Okay. I mean that's suspicious, but is it used? Yes, and it was used. It was used in a privileged production system by an AI client that probably Doron used on his laptop. And it was -- furthermore, how was it used? It was used in an access management system to create a new user, right, attach a user posit to it. And worst of it, this was all done from an untrusted location.

So this is the context we talk about. It's the full lineage, not just what the token is or the metadata around it, but how it came to life, its life cycle where it was used and everything. And here's the thing. I've seen enough that this to judge -- to assess that this is dangerous. I'll just disable it. This is not an insight platform. It's an action platform. So with just one click, we just revoked that token, mitigated the risk. All right. So this is the power to SailPoint Agentic Fabric.

Let's see how this works in an agentic work. So let's head over to the agent dashboard inventory. And similar to the nonhuman inventory, this is the place to slice and dice and understand how many AI agents you have, where they are, who owns them. Again, you can see similar metadata across the board. You can click in each and every one of them. And this is a purpose-built dashboard. So you can see here, again, let's click on one of these to see what we see. Again, similar experience as the nonhuman identities. But of course, we see some interesting stuff here, right? So this was a cursor agent, again, with our suspicious actor, Doron. Sorry, Doron. Interesting stuff is happening here from your machines. And cursor agents active as interesting.

So let's go to the lineage map to see what Doron has been up to. So again, Doron has been using this agent on his MacBook Pro for cursor. All right. So this is where the interesting stuff comes in, right? This agent has multiple identities that was used, one in Figma, one in GitHub. And let's see what this agent has been doing, right? This agent was doing Figma, probably it sounds like -- it seems like a developer agent. It was accessing the design system and a few other things that I think. But suddenly -- and then it access to GitHub. And for a developer agent, we see some suspicious things like it's accessing, for instance, financial automation service, quarterly reports, customer data. Well, that's not right, right? That doesn't seem right.

So again, with a single click, I just disabled that agent on its platform that it came from. So it's great that I can take these remediation actions one by one, right? But as Chandra said, we expect hundreds of thousands of these. So how do we create automatic real-time access policies for agents and secrets and dictate what they can and cannot do before they're even created in the enterprise, right? Because that's what you want to do. We want to have that autonomous automatic policies, right? So this is where our security policies comes into play.

And as you can see, we have a selection of these policies you can create from behavior policy to identity owner. But here, what I want to create is a policy around -- in this case, since we just looked at a GitHub agent, let's configure an agentic access policy to deny cloud agent from accessing GitHub for product team. Now why? This is actually a very common risk vector that recently we hear quite a bit from our customer base. They see a lot of these benign coding agents drift from their original purpose. And they, in some cases, do distractive events like leading the code base. So -- and then they use it access a privilege.

So what we want to go do is we want to create a policy to block that. So we're going to give it a name. Let's give it a name, block GitHub access. Now again, I can choose a variety of platforms here. I'm going to use cloud. And again, I can do a variety of targets. In this case, I want to block GitHub access. I'm going to select that. You can deny and allow policies. There's a plethora of options here of customization. But I'm going to select a specific team here because I want my engineers to innovate with agents, and I can create a separate policy for them. But for product team, I'm just going to deny that. So I'm going to create a policy and then see how it -- sorry, and see what happens.

Okay, great. So let's check now. We create a policy. Let's see if this works. So we're going to try to read a file from GitHub. I'm member of the product team. So let's see, hopefully, it's going to work, going to think. I hope it works. There you go, request blocked by our policy. Now this right here is huge business value right here for our customers because this capability allows our customers to create guardrails and to adopt AI innovation securely across their organization.

All right. So let's pivot from agentic identities back to human element. As Chandra and Mark said, we also have a lot of innovation happening on real-time human governance. Specifically, let's see how we are using AI to radically modernize real-time human governance. So I'm going to go to entitlements here. Now to achieve true zero trust, an organization must understand exactly what access entitlements they are governing and then classify them accurately in order to apply appropriate security policies.

But across the enterprise landscape, we face a massive data quality problem. 64% of our application entitlements are missing descriptions or written encrypted jargon. So we're not also talking about a few hundred here. Some customers have millions of these entitlements that they need to manage. And with such sheer volume, if a manager or an auditor doesn't understand what an entitlement actually does, they often misclassify it. And that is a massive security gap, a massive compliance cost. So this is where we innovated with AI and created AI recommended descriptions, which makes this traditionally laborious and critical security task comp.

And let me show you how. So in this case, we have a ton of entitlements here. A lot of them don't have any descriptions. So let's see what happens with our AI-generated recommendations. So we click there. And instantly, you can see we have created some really detailed descriptions of what this is. In this case, for instance, it is a super user group for Workday, and we came up with like a very good description here. And -- but here's the best part, building on those descriptions, the AI then automatically classify the exact risk level for each of entitlements.

So we now flag which ones provide highly privileged access. And we can approve and deny a few of these, but it turns out our accuracy is also pretty good. 98% of the time, 95% of the time, our customers accept and approve all these classifications. So with that confidence, you can square and bulk approve, right, these things. And you can also obviously go and edit them if you wanted to. right? And you can adjust risk to this, but we can bulk approve these. And what used to now take teams of security analysts, months of manual work is fully automated, thanks to AI. We're slashing our customers total cost of ownership. We're accelerating their deployment. We're laying the robust foundation required to enforce real-time dynamic access policies.

Okay. So now that I discovered and classified what is privileged, I want to focus on the privileges that represent the greatest risk to the organization so that I can enable zero standing privilege. We do that with just-in-time policies. I'm going to go to just-in-time console here. And what happens here is that with just-in-time, a privilege is only provisioned when a user needs it and deprovisioned or disabled when it's they're done. And you can do this for all types of entitlements to achieve zero standing privileges, and that's what we recommend. But for the most sensitive ones, you can add additional verification at the time of activation to if you wanted to.

So let's walk through how an administrator would create an activation policy so that when a user wants to activate Workday super user privilege, for instance, he will be asked for additional set of authentication, right? So let's go to an activation policy here. I'm going to create a policy, and I'm going to create an activation work the super user. There's some information here I can add. It's going to be individual policy, ownership. And again, we give great flexibility here. You can create this policy to match attributes and do a whole bunch of other flexible things to fit your needs.

But here's the best part. So first, there is the -- why do you need this policy questionnaire that I can create. But even better, since this is such a privileged entitlement, a super user access to Workday, right? I want people to really make sure that they are authenticated or reauthenticated with multifactor, right? This is where our integration with identity partners comes to play. In this case, I will require authentication, and I will also create an identity policy for that multifactor authentication, right?

So I'm going to do that. I have the policy set, I'm going to finish. And now let me switch to the user mode, right? So this is now our administrator right, David, which is one of our administrators. So when he activates the Workday super user policy, let's see what happens. All right. So I'm going to go ahead and activate this. Again, it's time limited. I'm going to give you a reason. Okay, great. Great. And then let me get a service ticket as we -- because as set the policy. Let's enter something there. Okay, great.

And then here's the most important part, right? We're going to begin a reauthentication retool here. So we're going to go ahead and on the phone, simulate it, we're going to approve a multifactor authentication backed by biometrics. So we do that. We do biometrics request. It's approved and David got his entitlements. And that's how we create zero standing privilege for this entitlement. And hopefully, he can deactivate or if he forgets it's time bound, it will be disabled after he's done.

So please bring the lights back up. That's a quick overview of our SailPoint Agentic Fabric and our real-time policy. So a quick recap. We got a complete view of all of our nonhuman and agentic footprint in our enterprise with critical human data context. We were able to quickly assess and improve our security posture and create policies. We then saw a single control plane on a unified platform with automated governance and real-time protection. We then saw how our AI-driven capabilities deliver real business and security value by eliminating painful manual work.

And finally, we saw how our real-time authorization help our customers create a zero standing privilege posture and protect them from privilege, misuse and insider threats. We are incredibly excited to bring these capabilities to market and partner with our customers on their AI and real-time human journey. Thank you. Really appreciate it.

And now I'd love to have our Presidents Matt Mills to stage on go-to-market.

Our go-to-market session, we're going to take an opportunity and introduce you to really the broad, deep bench that we've built over the years. And so you'll hear shortly from our Chief Commercial Officer, Gary Nafus. You'll hear from our Chief Customer Officer, Meredith Blanchar; our Chief Marketing Officer, Wendy Wu. You're going to hear from our Head of Revenue Operations, Steve Caldwell, and the gentleman that manages and leads our global solution engineering and specialty sales, Jeff Hickman, right? So the depth of their collective experience is extraordinary, and you'll see that for yourselves, and you'll see the deep bench that we've been able to build here.

With that, let me just get started. The physicist, David Deutsch, once noted that humanity is always at the beginning of Infinity. With AI, that infinite future is driving faster than anything we've ever seen in technology history. We are seeing an unlimited growth of knowledge, but crucially for our business, we are seeing an infinite proliferation of AI agents and nonhuman identities.

Last September, if you'll recall, we launched agent Identity Security. At that time, it was arguably the first solution of its kind. We made a bold prediction that governing autonomous agents would quickly eclipse human identity management as the most critical governance and security challenge of the decade. We were right. We declared 2026 the year of the agent because we saw a fundamental truth that the entire AI wave from copilots to autonomous workflows requires one absolute foundation, robust, unified identity and access control.

The market urgently needs a vendor-agnostic control plane to govern the connection between humans, agents, machines and data spanning across all platforms. For instance, Salesforce, Amazon, Microsoft and Google. And because as the global regulators begin to draw strict lines around AI accountability, proving what an autonomous agent is doing with your data is no longer just an IT issue. It is a massive compliance mandate. And today, that explosion -- it's not a forecast any longer. This is the reality we're dealing with. Board mandates are clear, massive budgets are activated. The AI is undeniably the engine of the modern enterprise.

With this rapid AI adoption comes a rapidly growing security problem. We've been saying this now for some time that identity is the #1 breach vector, and most companies have experienced identity-related incidents up to now. Now take a minute, add autonomous agents. The attack service isn't just growing, it's multiplying exponentially. Agents are being created everywhere largely outside the purview of IT. They are spawning subagents, connecting to critical SaaS apps, massive data lakes and being granted broad sweeping privilege across the enterprise. Now as a result, the fastest-growing form of agent governance right now is no agent governance at all. With a control plane, the trend of rapid vibe coding quickly devolves into -- get this vulnerability as a service, all right?

So let me give you a real-world example. Imagine one of your analysts deploys a cloud agent to build a financial model, granting it broad access to your firm's data lakes. Does the agent know what it is allowed to access? Does it understand an ethical wall? Can it tell the difference between useful data and restricted data? Is it violating SOX controls or creating a toxic access combination, a threat actor could potentially hijack? In most enterprises today, the answer is unclear, and that's a big problem. You cannot govern what you cannot see, you cannot secure access that you cannot trace and you cannot manage risk when agents, machine and data are operating outside the identity control plane.

Now we are already seeing this in the headlines, an explosion of shadow AI-related breaches, all fundamentally rooted in identity failures. The broader market and more importantly, the regulatory landscape, it's waking up to this reality at a breakneck speed. Around the world, AI governance is moving from policy discussion to operating requirements. We're seeing this across the U.S. Treasury AI risk framework, the EU AI Act, DORA, NIS2. In Asia, you've got MAS and APRA. And the common theme is clear, enterprise must prove control, accountability and data lineage across all AI-driven activity. And none of that works without identity. Consider this.

60% of the 230 control objectives in the financial services AI risk management framework depend entirely on foundational identity security to be able to achieve that compliance. 60%. So simple math, that's 138 of those 230 control objects, right? That's a lot. It's something that cannot be ignored, and it's going to be a big problem. Here's another one, the Monetary Authority of Singapore. This was the MAS I mentioned. strict demands for data lineage, human accountability of governance and it states in the regulation, organizations must, right? Not should, must deploy robust identity and access management systems.

So this is a powerful signal. AI compliance is no longer just about the model governance, right? It's about knowing who or what has access, what they are doing and who is accountable, right? This is what Chandra went through. Furthermore, tech luminaries who once really just touted the limitless power of AI have kind of changed their tune, right? Leadership at NVIDIA, Google, Box and Anthropic. Now they're really urgently calling out for governance.

I don't know if you saw it a few days ago, Anthropic called for a pause in AI development because of this growing concern. Anthropic also recently announced -- published a Zero Trust framework for AI agents, reinforcing the autonomous agents require identity, task scope permissions, observability and controls designed for AI-driven activity, right? So all of this together really serves as a powerful third-party validation, I think, of what we're really driving here and what we're sharing with you all today, and that is the proliferation of autonomous AI cannot be secured by traditional network perimeters or firewalls. In short, agents must be secured at the identity layer.

So when you step back, there are really 3 market forces here that are coming together. The threat landscape, it's expanding. Nonhuman identities, AI agents are creating really this invisible attack surface. The regulatory requirements that I just went through, they're increasing and compliance has shifted from a basic check box to the alternative of severe revenue risk.

And finally, technology leadership is voicing the importance of identity, where identity has officially become the new enterprise control plane. And we are seeing additional signals of momentum building in the market. I don't know if you follow Cisco, right, Cisco's acquisition of Astrix, I mean it's a proof point that large security platforms are moving quickly into nonhuman identity security. New entrants into the market are shining a light on shadow AI and unmatched agents. And CISOs and CIOs, well, they're increasingly recognizing that their ungoverned AI, it's not a future problem, right? It is already emerging inside their organizations. And when you bring this together with market sentiment, the technology leadership, you throw in their auditors, what are they saying or all agree on that identity security is a critical infrastructure necessary to effectively govern AI.

So let me leave you with this noodle, right? Identity is the central control plane for enterprise security. It's not just about securing the agents, but it is about the platform to secure your enterprise. It is the common fabric that brings the endpoints, networks, applications and data all together so you can properly govern and secure your enterprise. All of these create a powerful tailwind for SailPoint and accelerate our go-to-market opportunity.

So with that, let me now invite our Chief Commercial Officer, Gary Nafus, to dive into more details on our go-to-market strategy.

Are we going to do. Let me just give it 1 minute. It seems like we're good. Just look okay. Good morning, everyone. SailPoint is attacking this $90 billion TAM that you've heard about this morning with a ton, a ton of momentum. We're attacking this with a maniacal focus on customer success and time to value. So as we scale, we are taking significant market share from the incumbents. Over just the past 2 years, we have expanded our leadership position by nearly 5 points to capture 23.2% of the market, while the rest of our competitive set has either stagnated or actively regressed.

According to Gartner, the IGA market grew 15% last year. SailPoint alone captured nearly 38% of that total market growth. And most importantly, our unit economics and our customer health metrics are stronger than they've ever been. But the best metrics that support the momentum in our sales are the leading indicators such as pipeline. Our pipeline for the -- these advanced capabilities of AI have doubled every quarter since we launched our product. To maintain this growth trajectory and capture our disproportionate share of that $90 billion TAM, we're aggressively executing on 3 strategic go-to-market priorities: capturing new logos, accelerating our multiproduct platform adoption. The third is modernizing our customer base.

And so here's what gets me really excited. We're innovating within our go-to-market strategy, leveraging AI internally to unlock significant acceleration in our sales cycles, our customer time to value and our product expansion. We're going to show you a demo here shortly of some of these capabilities.

Okay. Moving on to land and expand. So we have -- SailPoint has an unmatched opportunity to land and expand. We are looking at a vast largely untapped market that is reacting to a ton of market pressures. There is an urgent now board-driven mandate to modernize these fragile legacy identity stacks. This imperative is backed by agentic-first budgets, enforcing the need for access governance. These are budgets that SailPoint has typically not accessed. These are outside of identity, outside of the CIO office, all new budget pools that are now addressable by SailPoint.

And we're making it super easy for and seamless for our customers to modernize their solutions with limited risk. These are push button like upgrades that just didn't exist 6 months ago. We have brought new deal constructs like Flex Modernization to streamline our customers' upgrades. And this is fueling the fastest acquisition growth for SailPoint, which is to liberate the legacy IGA market. There sits out there $3.2 billion in legacy run rate just sitting in these legacy solutions. These foundational IGA programs can't meet the modern demands that enterprises need. And when we upgrade them to our agentic suite, we see a 3x plus expansion opportunity put in play.

By solving today's immediate identity pressures, while building on the realities of agent identities for the future, we are not only protecting their business, but we're accelerating ours. We effectively turned that $3 billion legacy target into a $10 billion expansion opportunity for SailPoint. And today, with SailPoint Agentic Fabric, we have these new selling paths to engage into this opportunity. We have 4x the number of ways that we can land new logos just in the past 6 months.

We can land human, we can land agentic, we can land both or we can have a web strategy. And we have 2x our selling motions via our agentic specialty sales teams, which now allows us to engage these new market buying personas and these new budgets. This market is quickly realizing that competitive architectures cannot survive in this AI era and competitive displacement has become our fastest-growing acquisition channel, which is part of the reason why we see that 2/3 of our new logos come from failed competitive deployments. This opportunity is massive, and we are primed to own this.

Let me hand it to Steve to take you through some of the platform growth opportunities that we have.

Thanks, Gary. As Gary had mentioned, we have more ways to land than ever before, whether that's landing agentic, landing human, landing with the platform advantage, that wedge strategy, landing up against the competitors. But just like we have new ways to land, we have more routes to market for the way we can land, whether that's through direct sales, our indirect sales team, our MSP channel, our marketplaces and more. And we have more ways once we do land in terms of how we can actually expand to create deep compounding platform stickiness.

And when a customer lands with us, they quickly realize that identity is that central nervous system of their enterprise. They don't just stay for core governance. You heard that from Chandra. They see the vision. They rapidly expand to manage other identity populations, whether that's nonemployee, maybe nonhuman identities and also agents. And then with the success of the SpaceX IPO, maybe nonhumans in space, too. But customers mature from this static governance to real time and then being able to eventually get to that end stake, which is autonomous governance, the agentic governance, utilizing more and more of the platform.

They govern all identities, obviously, under one unified platform. They secure more use cases, whether that's data access governance, GRC and just-in-time authorization. They'll leverage the extensibility of the platform to integrate with the SOC, create workflows via shared signals and allow for real-time remediation. And as a result, we're seeing a record number of customers standardize on 3 or more modules. And this platform expansion, which we're really excited about, massively will be accelerated by our recent announcement of Entro Security.

If you think about Entro today, their agentic capabilities give us deep into software life cycle management expertise, allowing us to secure not just the agents themselves, but the actual secrets, the tokens, the credentials, all those things that make up the workload of what an agent does. And by bringing agent governance with deep technical secrets protection, we are providing the customers -- our customers with the most robust unified security solution on the market while decisively widening our competitive moat against the agent security solutions, those point solutions out there.

We do feel like that market itself is actually commoditizing, in some cases, now consolidating as well. And our product adoption strategy is really simple. It's provide quick time to value, really drive that blueprint so our customers are successful over the long term and then more importantly, just be there all along the way. And just speaking about being there all along the way, here's a quick illustration of one of our customers in oil and gas and their expansion journey with us over time. When customers move from IdentityIQ like this customer to Identity Security Cloud, they're not just upgrading their technology. They're making this multiyear commitment to modernize their identity security program and effectively readying themselves for the future.

And in this age of AI agents, this customer knew early. They knew real early that you cannot just manage agents in isolation. You just can't manage human isolation. They have to come together to see the full context. That's why in this case, you saw the identity team come together with the AI team to make this decision and leverage budget actually from the AI group. And they understood that every AI agent, every automated process, every bot needs the identity and criticality of a unified control plane. And every security leader, especially at this example, you cannot -- they could not see a fragmented landscape with fragmented tools. They knew that they needed a unified control plane as the tool of choice, and it was the basic starting point for modern security.

They knew the connection between the human, the agent, the agent to the machine, the machine to the data and then a unified policy around that. And our platform delivered that for this customer end to end. And it led to a 20x increase in ARR and most recently, a 50% increase in ARR when they enable the agentic fabric to govern agents and nonhumans via that unified governance model.

So finally, we have significant opportunity to modernize our base. It's exciting. You'll hear from Brian later that we have about $350 million that still sits with our IdentityIQ customers, which represents about $1 billion or more opportunity for SailPoint. But much like the example that I just shared and the technology shifts that we're seeing in the market, the tailwinds that you heard from Matt, there's more reason than ever to extend beyond just human governance. And SailPoint has created glide path for these customers to the agentic suites that derisks the move to the cloud. And it starts with commercial constructs. Through our Flex Modernization program, we co-invest with our customers to remove any financial friction and allow them to adopt the platform as they mature.

And from a technology standpoint, we have moved from a migration to an upgrade. This is a technological paradigm shift. Transition to the cloud is no longer this high-risk heavy lift migration. It is a seamless platform upgrade. And we have eliminated the biggest barrier to modernization that drastically reducing the professional services burden by almost 80% to 90%. And we have moved to what we call internally a proof-based methodology, which leverages forward deployed engineers and virtual agent architects that is truly game changing. These architects are our IP, our institutional, our best of the best in terms of talent in the business, effectively becoming a digital twin to help migrate our customers to our cloud solution.

So with that, let's have Jeff Hickman, our SVP of Solution Engineering, join us on stage. Jeff?

All right. We get the demo set up here. All right. Before we jump into the demo, a couple of slides as they get that queued up. So good afternoon, good morning, everybody. We're very excited to showcase this innovation. It's been talked about a couple of times throughout the day. And if Flex Modernization was the license unlock, what we're talking about now is another unlock. And that's really the unlock of the cost and time of modernizing. And it's driven by the SailPoint Agentic Acceleration methodology, which is powered by the virtual architect or the set of agents that Steve mentioned.

And this is an AI-powered capability that automates and accelerates the transition today from an on-prem IIQ environment to the cloud or the ISC environment. And one of the hardest things about doing these modernizations is really untangling years of custom code, custom workflows. And if you think about it, dozens of people, if not hundreds of people and partners probably have touched these legacy systems. And it creates a complex environment and a complex code base with very little documentation of what's really under the hood. So unlocking that legacy stack is used to take months of, frankly, human analysis and consulting.

And so the solution now is a no-cost AI-powered virtual architect trained with over 20 years of SailPoint IP and the know-how that completes a production-ready ISC instance in a matter of hours and days, not months. And in many cases, modernization becomes just as easy, if not easier, than a standard version upgrade. The virtual architect has derisked this transition and creates value day 1. This is really the game changer when we talk about that $1 billion unlock of our greatest asset, which is our existing customer base.

So one key point as we move to the next slide, I want to emphasize here that this virtual architect, this is not a translation. We're not transposing code. We're not copying, pasting code from one environment to the other. This is truly a virtual architect that requires and is built on intelligent transformation. And this is the magic as we've ingested or input 20 years of knowledge into this architect and there's insights from all of our top human architects into this to create a skills database that trains this virtual architect. And this SAA methodology combines deterministic engineering with nondeterministic LLM-based models, all informed by these architect curated skills. And so the virtual architect transforms your legacy investment into a modern, scalable cloud environment ready for rapid innovation.

So let's quickly review how this works. So what you see on the slide is just the macro process. First, we ingest a customer's IIQ configures and the virtual architect gets to work. The virtual architect automates the analysis, the planning, the building and the deploy to create that functional ISC environment. The virtual architect performs the heavy lifting, which -- of parsing that IIQ environment, mapping the dependencies, and it does it within a matter of minutes, really. And from there, it moves to the plan build and actually deploy.

And crucially, as I want to highlight here, there's still a human in the loop here and a human along the journey the entire way because they validate the build, they validate that everything is working. If there's things that need to be adjusted or fixed, they jump in and they can do that. And what's interesting is that starts to create a self-learning, self-healing capability because everything that we find that we haven't seen before, we then build a new skill for that architect.

So this is the flow that we'll walk through. You'll kind of see this represented in our virtual agent here in a second. So let's just dive into that. If you want to switch to my screen here locally, we'll walk through what this starts to look like. So if we can switch to my laptop. So one of the things you're going to see as we get into this, unplug and replay the old tried and true.

Okay. Here we go. Now we're working. Cook with gas. All right. So what we're going to see here, I was going to say under the covers. We talked about this being our virtual architect. This is really a multi-agent architecture under the covers. So we have 6 orchestrator agents with 36 agents working under them. with 137 subagents working under there, all trained and working on these skills that we talked about translated from our humans. So this is -- while we talk about the virtual architect, this is a complex multi-agent system that we have built ourselves.

And so as we say, we ingested what you're looking at here, we've already ingested a customer's IIQ instance. This is actually a -- or this is a real customer. We've anonymized it. Normally, the customer's name would appear here. And we land on a report card. This is what you're looking at. And so this is our full blueprint of what we -- what the agent has discovered within that analysis of the IIQ environment. And I'm going to jump into or just highlight a few things.

First, I want to key in on 79%. The agent and the architect has said, in this environment, effectively round up to 80% of it can be automated through what the architect knows how to do. That only leaves 20% that the humans have to intervene. So if it was a 1,000-hour project, it becomes a 200-hour project.

Another thing that I want to highlight as we think about this environment, we talk about sources here, 748, 750 sources. These are applications that are connected. This is a complex environment. What you're seeing here for this customer is not just a vanilla easy layup, if you will. This is a very robust -- there's 2 authoritative sources in here, human capital management systems and then 746 connected applications through this environment. We've discovered or the agent -- the architect has discovered 19 core use cases across the system. And so now we've got a view of what do we see in that IIQ environment. And as we scroll down, you can see our -- effectively our pipeline that we saw on the slide previous. This is the analyze, plan, build, deploy. These are all the stats and activities that were underpinning at each of those steps. You can see that those steps are complete. We have run this through the entire process.

As we scroll down further, we have some more report card stats in this case, highlighting we have about 6,000 hours effectively remediated. That 80% in this case, translated to about 6,000 hours of human work that did not need to take place at this point.

Scrolling down further, I want to highlight a couple of things. And so life cycle events for folks that aren't steeped in identity like some of the folks in the room here from SailPoint. I want to highlight life cycle events here. And this is kind of a simple process. These are bread-and-butter use cases for identity, and we're going to jump into the new hire process. So think about this. Everybody -- when you guys got hired at your jobs, you walked in day 1, and there's an e-mail waiting there that says, welcome, Jeff. We're super excited to have you here. Here's how you access your systems. Here's all the things you can go do. Well, that e-mail is a complex orchestration under the covers of a lot of things going on, and that is very -- as nice as it is for you walking in day 1, knowing you can get ready and start to work, there was a ton of work and IIQ or ISC helps make that simple and automated.

So this is the new hire process we're into. And I want to highlight a couple of things here. One is right up here, which says, in IIQ, we had 9 artifacts. Think the artifacts as a workflow or a set of rules. We had 9 discrete artifacts that are now being translated into 5. I mentioned this is transformation, not transposing. We're not copying and pasting. It's not 9 to 9, it's 9 to 5.

And what's interesting in this, and I'll zoom this a little bit so we can kind of see what the agent is telling us is, hey, a lot of these things are going to collapse just into standard configuration items in ISC. We don't need them. We don't need to copy paste it over. But there is one thing it kind of called out, which is this send welcome e-mail. We need to have one custom cloud workflow that we're going to go build out of this. And so I'm highlighting this. Remember this SAA joiner, send welcome e-mail workflow because the agent had to go build that in ISC. That's what it's telling us here as it's going through its work. And so we'll close that off.

But you can start to see -- as I close that out, take a look at the numbers here, 30 to 4, 7 to 3, 7 to 3. You start to see the consolidation or the mapping of what used to be complex and in ISC, it's all code. You're coding all of these workflows, lines of code living in IIQ, sorry. And when it goes to ISC, it needs to map into a SaaS environment, which is largely configuration or declarative based. So the architect knows and knows how to do that and makes that intelligent decision.

If we highlight here, overall, if you think about all of those boxes of reductions, what we're saying is the virtual architect has figured out how to reduce complexity by 55% moving from IIQ to ISC. That's a 55% reduction in technical debt, things that people have to manage and maintain at a code level. It all becomes much more of a declarative instance. So this is the overview, a ton of great insights. That's at the macro view of what the virtual architect has discovered.

Let's go to the micro. In the micro side, this architect has actually already built all of the documentation for us automatically. We have our requirements in our solution design document. Think of this as what you would hand to of the 20% that I was talking about before that still needs to be created. We now handle those humans the blueprint for what they need to go create and it sits inside the design documentation. We've got a full upgrade plan. We've got a report card. So we can dive into these, we don't need to go through them. It's a lot of text, but it's a lot of insights.

And so for customers for -- as we go in and explain what's happening and what the process and what this blueprint looks like, we can just -- we can give them all this information. We can show them in detail what we're mapping from one environment to the next. And that's kind of static, right? Those are reports and things we've already created, but this is actually a live -- we can talk to our agent. And we have the ability through an inference window here to start asking questions.

So I wanted to -- I'll give it a softball question, just how many workflows are going to be in IS. And as it is chewing on this, it's actually using -- we're bringing a language model into the world of effectively IIQ. If you think about it, we're taking a look at that environment. And now the agent is coming back with insights. We have 87 workflows. And effectively, you can just have a conversation with this architect, and you can start to understand what's inside that tangled web of years and years in IIQ of the build.

I actually did something -- I was thinking about this on the plane last night. I asked it another question, which was -- and this took a little bit longer, so I had it queued up here. But I said, do you have any concerns -- are there any security concern, any vulnerability concerns with your current IIQ environment? I'm not saying anything about moving to the modern platform. But you can see here the #1 security concern for this customer came back that said, holy smokes, you've got hard-coded credentials and API keys inside your code.

So if you listened to the presentation before, that is the opposite of zero standing privilege, whatever -- it's the complete opposite of that. And so we can go and we actually had this conversation with the CISO of this customer, and we were able to come in and say, look what we discovered within your -- just your IIQ environment. There's a lot of items in here to be remediated. And it opened their eyes to not only how do I protect by moving forward. And oh by the way, there's a recommendation in here, if we can see this, which says, hey, by the way, if you -- if we do migrate to ISC, when you do that, there's standard configuration items that are capabilities within ISC that would remediate this automatically and prevent it from happening. It is a way of moving into a best practice posture when you move to ISC.

And so not only are we helping them with the vulnerability they've got today, but we're mapping to the future of how do you remediate that going forward in ISC. So pretty powerful to not only have a macro report card, a capability of full documentation, a way to interact with that agent in a real-time basis. But if you recall, the last step in our pipeline as we went through was build deploy. And so this agent has an architect has gone in and said, "You know what, let us just get going, and we'll build that ISC environment for you."

So what you're seeing is a live demo environment that was created by the virtual agent. You can see here on our homepage, the certification campaigns. These were configured in items that were within their IIQ. There are 6 certification campaigns that are in here. They came over. They're already working. We can demo those certification campaigns straight away out of the box. All of that data came with us and all of those workflows came over, transposed from the IIQ environment.

So I want to jump in. Remember that workflow we talked about as far as the new hire goes. Well, if I jump in, here's our SAA welcome e-mail. So again, this is the welcome e-mail. This is the description of what that e-mail is. But if I want to really go see what that looks like, remember what I said, this was code, right? This was a set of workflows and rules effectively that were coded into IIQ. And now all of a sudden, those -- the agent has built that and it's come to life in a declarative form within ISC. And now what's amazing about this is it doesn't require a developer like you used to have in the IIQ environment where you had to go manipulate code.

Now you're an administrator that can use declarative tool sets to make changes into this workflow. And you can see it's quite complex and quite robust. This customer did not want to change what this workflow was. It was -- they liked the workflow. They wanted it replicated and the agent and architect have built that over here in ISC, quite powerful.

And so what's this provides a platform, right? What else can we go do with this? And so what I've just shown you is how do we move IIQ to ISC in a kind of similar like-for-like feature function kind of way. You have to do the translation, but it is the like-for-like. But what happens if I want to start layering in all that innovation that Chandra was talking about, discovery of agents, the power of the platform getting in and using the power of the Atlas platform. Well, one of those capabilities that lives within our platform today is this -- is our identity graph, right?

And so this is a great way to visualize these identities. Dawn Oliver was an employee that lived in IIQ. Now she's living in ISC. We brought her to life here. You can see her access profiles, her roles. All of our entitlements came over. And I want to blow out her entitlements real quick. And so what you're seeing here is all of her entitlements, we can see those. There's one line in here, which is yellow, if you can actually see that right here. And this thing -- this entitlement is actually to an agent.

Well, we didn't have agents in IIQ. Now that we're running an ISC, we can start to layer in, in a demo fashion, all of the amazing innovation to bring to life for a customer when we're demoing this, hey, look, now you're on a platform that you can start to ingest all of this amazing stuff. And so if I go look at this agent that we had discovered, this is a payment history agent, has 4 entitlements itself. And I'm going to go into the details here. And I can see a lot about this agent.

But what's interesting is, right? The source says AWS SaaS. This was discovered. We connected this to a Bedrock environment. We pulled back and brought this agent, discovered the agents that were living in Bedrock, brought them back in. We've already discovered them, visualized. But what's amazing here is I've just -- we've assigned the owner. And so now what we're showing is we've moved from discover, visualize to govern and protect, right? We're able to start showing that path. And we can demonstrate that even though this was an IIQ environment and we walked in to do an IIQ demo, now all of our folks and our sales engineers can say, "Hey, here's what else you can start to go do. Here's why this is an acceleration path." And it unlocks all of the other capabilities of SailPoint for these customers, and we can visualize that walking in day 1.

So this becomes an amazing platform to jump off. If you think about this from a go-to-market perspective, what we are able to do now is as we walk into a customer's environment, we can not only show them the blueprint, show them what we discovered or show them what we've analyzed within the IIQ environment, but we can show them what it looks like working, their workflows, their data with our new innovation working alongside that. And all of a sudden, the light bulbs start to go off as far as what the future looks like in a much faster way.

As we think about innovation here and thinking about that go-to-market posture, this engine effectively is a paradigm shifter for us because what our virtual architect knows how to do very well is speak ISC. It can build ISC from a set of artifacts. And the artifact in this case was an IIQ config. We are working on other artifacts. Imagine a world where we have RFIs or RFPs that come in with the outline basic use cases. Well, we know what those use cases kind of look like when a customer says, "Hey, I need to do a new higher workflow use case." Well, we know what that kind of looks like. Our agent can go stand that up for you.

And so instead of coming into a customer's environment and PowerPointing them, we can come in and say, here it is. Here is what it looks like working. And so that goes for new logos like Gary was talking about. It goes for the unlock of legacy platforms as we start to teach our architect how to speak other legacy platforms. This is a true unlock across not just our customer base, but a paradigm shift across our go-to-market here.

So with that, I want to come back to -- I got one more slide to present as we wrap up. So if we go to the next slide, come back to the power -- PowerPoint here. Okay. Perfect. So as we wrap this up, as we just saw, we're investing in no cost to our customers to use our virtual agent. And our goal is to accelerate our customers' journey to the cloud, preparing them to take advantage, as I said, of all this new innovation driven by this nonhuman explosion.

And if you think about this massive shift, like I said, in that very first meeting, we can sit down with the customer, show them the blueprint as well as their live data working within a live environment with their data, their workflows. We can eliminate hours of collection of information, analysis, demo creation, PowerPoint theory. And if you step back, we're -- it means we're moving to a world where we can sell and almost simultaneously deploy, and that is kind of the true north of where we want to go.

So perhaps most importantly, the virtual architect allows us to leverage our customers' investment that they've already made. That investment in IIQ is no longer a sunk cost. It is an accelerant into this way -- into this world. Their ISC environment has stood up much more intelligently because of that past investment they've made in IIQ. It brings the customers' identity IP is effectively if you think about it that way, into the cloud quickly and at a much lower cost, enabling the ability to rapidly adopt our latest innovations here that we saw this morning.

So it is a good segue. This all sets the stage for kind of this next bit of discussions. If we've won -- we're starting to unlock this blocking and tackling of IIQ to ISC and how do we use -- it starts to free up human time. And so how do we use that time and mind space freed up for -- from those lower-level tasks to do much more strategic things. And so I think that's a great segue to bring up my friend, Rex Thexton. He's our Senior Managing Director from Accenture to give his perspective of what he's seeing in the landscape.

So at Accenture, you have a front row seat, a catbird seat to boardrooms and C-suites. And I'm -- we've been telling investors today that this explosion of AI and agents is really creating a massive inflection point for customers and for us, frankly, about how you rethink security and strategies. So from your vantage point in this agentic shift, what are the frameworks? Why are the frameworks that are built for human-centric governance probably not sufficient in this new world?

Yes. No, I think it's a great question. So I'm just more back, I'm our Global CTO for our cybersecurity business as well. And I think over the last 30 -- how long it's been 3 or 4 weeks, we had this thing called the Mythos moment, right? Everybody was concerned about vulnerabilities and all these different aspects. And what it fundamentally taught people is nobody is prepared for what the Frontier models can unlock from a security perspective.

And then if you look at where identity sits in that big picture, but all these agents can do and drive that, identity is the control plane for people to be able to unlock agentic identity in their environments. If you don't know what the agent has access to, how it has access and what it can do, you are in big trouble. And I will give you an example because -- reason I brought up this Mythos Frontier model. When we started looking and running tests, you can -- one of the things was it can find vulnerabilities, right? That's step one.

Step 2 is it could find novel attack path. When we found these novel attack paths, you know what, the funny thing was 80% of the way to break the attack path was either -- was to do an intervention with an identity capability, being able to go in and limit or revoke an identity or a token or something. The -- a lot of them were that related versus just patching this CVE will break the chain. A lot of the minimum cut pass were identity related, which I found somewhat surprising from that perspective just initially, but that was just fact-based data as we went out and mine these attack paths with some of the latest frontier models.

And so that is super important from an unlock perspective. I think if you look at what clients struggle with, and this is what we see every day is, hey, I've got this human identity infrastructure. First, they try and adopt it and use that for nonhuman and they struggle pretty adamantly with their legacy tech solutions. So one of the things that we've been very focused on, and I think we talked about this last summer is about getting our clients to modernize at little to no cost.

And the funny story about that was one of my favorite consulting story is a few years ago, there was a multi- conglomerate that wanted to break away and had to take their identity system. And I remember one of our lead consultants in the time, the client -- he said, yes, we're going to go man, we're going to configure this infrastructure. We're going to do all this stuff. And the clients say, so what do I get? And he goes, nothing. That's it. And I thought that was funny because that's what we're getting rid of, right? We're able to get them so that they can start unlocking the value of agentic identity.

And I think there's this other aspect. If you watch some of the Sequoia talks, they talk about this concept of diffusion, clients can't unlock -- they can't keep up with the frontier models from being able to unlock the power of AI. And part of that is they all sit there. Every conversation we have is how do we do this securely? How do we do this securely and being able to leverage agentic AI. And so there's -- first answer is nonhuman identity and being able to make sure that you know what your agents have access to, what they can do and the context in which they have it. That's step 1.

If they don't do step 1, what they end up getting is -- and I was at a client the other day, and they ran a shadow AI discovery, they found 1,000 agents running on their network, tokens everywhere. And that is a big problem. And that's happening no matter what. So either cut it all off or they get identity under control and then they can adopt from that perspective. That makes sense.

Yes. Super helpful. All right. So let's talk about some execution of our massive installed base that we kind of walked through. And we introduced, obviously, the SailPoint Agentic Acceleration here today, which is heavily automating this transition. And a natural question from really the larger community might be or probably should be or will be, how will this agentic innovation reshape the services industry from the traditional implementation as those traditional implementation models evolve and as more of this modernization becomes automated, how should we think about the potential impact on partners for that?

So I think it's a different type of impact. So we've been shifting to an outcome-based model for quite some time. And where we see the value is being able to unlock. And if you look at what we're trying to do is provide the best outcomes for our clients. And a lot of times, in the early days of identity, we can only cover the SOX apps or the regulated apps. We can only cover a portion of the estate. That's no longer going to work.

So what we're able to do now is instead of spending money on that what I call the sign field phase, the nothing phase, we're able to go in and get that done and then go in and scale the estate and help our clients scale. I think there's no one better positioned than SIs in the world to be able to go in. We've been doing this for years. We've been making SAP work. We've been making the identity tools work. We've been making everything work. We have that institutional knowledge on how to best integrate and implement these capabilities from a Frontier perspective.

I think that's what's unique about us. And so we're shifting to what we do best versus spending time on what I would call the mundane, and we're able to go in and start unlocking that high value and helping our clients deliver those outcomes that they're looking to deliver, being able to leverage this new technology. I mean it's probably the most exciting time I've ever seen in my life. I think the biggest issue that I see out in the market is our clients aren't moving at AI speed from a procurement perspective. They're still trying to go through and evaluate.

And I think one of the things that we talked about early on in our partnership was how do we help our clients unlock because clients don't want to buy another tool. They've had these processes for regulatory capabilities. There's a huge data switching moat around just the human. And if you're going to go reimplement those in a new tool and different policies, it doesn't make a lot of sense. So they expect their vendors like SailPoint to be able to come in and be able to provide this nonhuman identity capability and being able to unlock and get there faster allows them to be able to unlock the agentic future in their enterprise with that new control point.

That is super important. And that's why we've been pushing you guys pretty hard to come up with something like this so we can get in there and start doing it faster because if the first inhibitor is cost and time, that doesn't work. And so if you take time, costs and uncertainty out of it because a lot of clients are afraid to migrate because they're stuck in this mode of, I don't understand what I have today or I do it this way. And there's this -- what I call this fear uncertainty and doubt. If you're able to unlock those 3 things, time, money and confidence, then they can move at pace and then unlock the future, which is this agentic world. And that's how they're able to provide outcomes to their clients and to their Board and to their bottom line.

You said this before when we've been talking, the work doesn't go away, the work is just different. And I think that was really more of it. Well, awesome. Thank you so much for joining us today. This is great.

I'm going to turn it back over to Mr. Steve Caldwell to take us home for the go-to-market here.

That was good stuff. Our operational rigor, we talk about this quite a bit, sets us apart, and we've been investing in AI across SailPoint. Since the inception of ChatGPT in November '22, we've been early adopters. But we do live in this world of what we call internally institutional deep fakes in enterprise software where you can vibe code and you can vibe code something that seems real. You can vibe code something that can be a great POC as well. But buyers, as you heard from Jeff and Rex just moments ago, need to really change the way they evaluate enterprise software.

I think profound trust and integrity becomes more essential than ever before. And you think about the market of IGA and you think about how IGA has evolved into identity security, IGA going to the edges and governing more identities is effectively identity security. But IGA in its acronym form is more important than ever in the age of AI. You think about the acronym. Identities, there's more identities than ever before. There's more governance that's required than ever before. There's more administration that's required as well. Thus, the financial and security risk of a failed deployment are just simply too high in this world where AI is just moving so fast. There's no time to ever catch up if you get that decision wrong.

So that's why we operate now internally as something we call the velocity of trust, which is a paradigm shift in the way we sell. You heard a lot about that from Jeff moments ago in terms of our capabilities in this area. It's moving from what we call a promise-based selling where you're making a bet and then you're hoping -- you're going through an implementation, you're hoping it pays off to moving to proof based where you know upfront that you're making an investment that's going to have a return. You know you're going to be successful.

And so by utilizing Agentic Acceleration, we absorb the risk for the clients. It's the buyer, it's risk on the vendor being SailPoint. And we have a complexity that sometimes gets associated with governance or legacy IGA or competitive IGA. What we didn't mention was our Agentic Acceleration can be applied to legacy IGA. It can be applied to competitive IGA to make those transitions to SailPoint that much more effective and timely. And this allows us to simultaneously sell and deploy all at the same time, which we believe is a financial and operational motion that the competitors, the market itself cannot match.

So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Wendy Wu, our Chief Marketing Officer to share the successes we're seeing with customers, the analysts and then also share with you our pricing and packaging model.

Thanks so much, Steve. Hi, everyone. So at SailPoint, the ultimate foundation of our business is the trust. We're not a point solution. We're the definitive system of record for identity security and serving the most complex organizations on the planet. Today, we protect over half of the Fortune 500 and nearly 30% of Global 2000 from Forbes. These are organizations. They operate in a highly complex and hybrid environment under massive regulatory pressure.

They chose SailPoint for one single reason. We scale and we deliver. And you can see that trust in our retention rate at 97%. And that speaks to the stability of the business and the critical role that we play for our customers. When SailPoint is deployed, we become very hard to be replaced, and we're deeply embedded in our customers' cybersecurity defense.

This level of trust is validated by major independent analyst firms as you see here. In the most recent IDC MarketScape and KuppingerCole Leadership Compass, SailPoint was positioned as the undisputed leader in identity governance, and we stood out for our market leadership and our vision. And most importantly, our customers have spoken. Their feedback earned us the Gartner Peer Insights Customs Choice Award for 2026. So for us, these recognitions really matter because they reinforce what we see in the market today.

Customers want a platform that they can trust for mission-critical identity security needs. And that trust gives us a very, very strong foundation to expand and evolve our solution. And that allow us to capture the next wave of demand as identity expands from humans to nonhumans and agents.

So I know you guys are wondering how do we monetize our product portfolio. Up until recently, our commercial baseline was built primarily around our identity security cloud suites, standard, business and business plus. And built on our foundational Atlas common services, these suites, they deliver the comprehensive out-of-box governance for human identities. Customers can easily expand with the advanced add-on capabilities such as nonemployee risk management and several others.

But the enterprise buying behavior is shifting. Customers, they want commercial investment that can perfectly align with their maturity without a rigid lock-in. That is why we created SailPoint Navigators. They are the flexible purchasing pathways that let customers buy and adopt exactly what they need. And it simplifies the procurement process, accelerate the sales cycles and create a frictionless pathway for future expansion.

Now while securing human identities really drives our baseline, the market is moving incredibly fast, and we are launching the industry's shift into the agentic era. Today, the most urgent operational risk is really the explosion of the unmanaged AI agents and machine identity that we've been talking all this morning. So to capture this market shift, we have evolved our market entry and packaging strategy.

For the very first time, customers do not have to start with the SailPoint human identity solution. If a net new logo or an IQ customer, they need to solve their agentic identity problems immediately, they can purchase the SailPoint Agentic Fabric that we just launched as a stand-alone solution to secure their nonhuman identities. What this means is it unlocks a massive new TAM for us. It allows us to really capture the enterprise who otherwise would have turned to our competitors.

But as we said, the ultimate security for enterprise can only be achieved through a unified control plane because you cannot secure agents in their own silos, and you cannot fully govern these agents without mapping its access and its accountability back to its human owners. So to solve this, we have introduced our agentic business and agentic business plus suites. They unify both humans and agents under one control plane.

For our existing customers, the upgrade path is completely seamless. Customers can step up directly from business to agentic business or all the way up to agentic business plus as their needs mature. And customers who are already on business plus, they can move directly into agentic business plus. And each upgrade represents a seamless journey with a corresponding price increase to cover the extra value we deliver. So this is the future of our business.

As our platform continuously discover more unmanaged nonhuman identities customer, naturally, they will see more risks in their environment that they want to keep under control. So that creates a very compelling reason for them to expand their footprint and turning the agentic fabric and agentic suites into a highly scalable growth engine for SailPoint.

Now having talked about the packaging strategy, how do we price for this shift? Let's keep it simple and predictable and really monetize the growth through a hybrid pricing model. As we know, legacy-based pricing alone today is just not adequate anymore. It does not fully capture the reality of the modern security. AI, eventually, they may optimize the number of human workers. But at the same time, it is also causing machines and agents to explode. If we only charge per human, we miss out the massive upside we have.

At the same time, the reality with our customers is they are very, very hesitant to commit to large upfront payment because they simply don't know how many agents are there in their environment that they need to secure. So our hybrid model solves this by balancing the budget predictability with value-based scaling. We land with seat and we grow with extra capacity.

To make this initial landing completely frictionless, our commercial anchor remains on the predictable human identity licenses. But to remove the upfront guesswork, we include a generous baseline of nonhuman identities with every single human identity that you purchase. This really allows our customers to safely discover and secure their agentic identities on day 1 without having to worry about immediate overages. Then as their environment grows, they're likely to exceed that baseline. Now they can scale seamlessly by purchasing our modular capacity packs. And this ensures that their ongoing financial investment scales in proportion with their actual platform usage, such as the increase in their agent volume, the API calls they're making, the workflow automation, data retention and data refresh.

So here is the bottom line. We eliminate the initial buying friction to accelerate immediate adoption. And as customers' AI and automated entities multiply, our revenue will scale in locksteps, and we're directly monetizing the explosion of agent-driven work.

So to bring it all together, we have the trust of the world's largest organizations. We have the leading platform to secure these new identities of human and AI agents. And now with our hybrid pricing model, we have the commercial engine to capture the financial upside of this digital explosion. As our customers' environment grow more automated and complex, our revenue will scale alongside with them. And we're not just securing the future of the enterprise, we're actually building a scalable and predictable growth engine to go along with it.

Thanks, everyone. I'll bring it back to Scott.

All right. Thank you, and thanks, Wendy. Thanks, team. That was a lot of information this morning. I hope we found it valuable. I'm going to call a little audible. We were supposed to do Q&A, but I think instead, we're going to add some time to the end, and we're going to go to break, let everyone stretch your legs, get a snack, use the restroom. So we'll be back in about 10, 15 minutes, and we'll start back up again. So thank you all.

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All right. Welcome back. There's a lot of things that go into an event like this. And I got to say there's a lot of people to thank to help us prepare for today. The one thing I didn't have on my list was a fire alarm. So I will add that to my checklist. I apologize for that. But anyway, look, we got a lot more content this afternoon, and then we'll get into the full Q&A. So with that, let me introduce Meredith Blanchar, our Chief Customer Officer.

All right. So I hope you can join me. I'll introduce you. So hopefully, no fire alarm. So this morning, we spent a lot of time talking about SailPoint's technology. But the reality is that major technological shifts like this are never just about the vendor. They really require this true forward-thinking partnership between the vendor, the customer and the partners like Accenture. And what our next guest and his organization have achieved in terms of modernizing and securing their identity perimeter really does deserve to be in the forefront. And honestly, we're just incredibly proud to play a supporting role in your story.

So what I want to do for this session is flip the script a little bit. And instead of talking mostly about SailPoint, talk about the incredible transformation that is happening at one of our customers, the Vanguard Group. Vanguard has been a customer of SailPoint, a great customer for 10 years, and it's been really fun to watch how they've matured. And talking about AI, they're not just starting to adopt AI, they're actually actively using it to design behavioral nudges to help over 50 million clients make better investment decisions. They rolled out tools like Expert Insights that gives their financial advisers things that like superpowers, they can personalize their portfolios at scale. And then they have -- it's called the Well on Your Way platform. And I actually saw a commercial about it the other night, and it was really interesting. It uses AI to analyze 35 million, 35 million data points to help employees improve their financial well-being and move closer to retirement.

So with that, I want to welcome our guests Srinath Chigullapalli, who is the Global Head of Identity at Vanguard. So Srinath, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate you taking the time out of what I'm sure is a very, very busy schedule to share your insights with us today. It's fantastic.

Thank you, Meredith. Can you guys hear me? Okay. Perfect. It's great to be here today.

Okay. Well, thank you. We appreciate it. So I'll take the context. You manage identity for an organization that oversees trillions in assets. And I want to learn more about your role and Vanguard in particular, but -- and then understand with all these massive AI initiatives that are rolling out, what's the most exciting AI initiative in your world right now? And then more importantly, as Global Head of IAM, how do you help balance this need for massive innovation yet keep things secure?

Great question. So just for everybody's benefit, like I'm sure everybody has heard of Vanguard, but Vanguard is an organization whose mission is to make sure that our clients have the best chance for investment success, right? Like you know us as a low-cost fund provider, but our goal is to provide the best products at the best price and make sure our clients are successful.

So as Meredith touched on, it's 50 million clients across the world. And we have a workforce of about 30,000 to 40,000 that provides this service at scale, right? So -- and we're a digital-first company. So we leverage emerging technologies to provide these services at scale. Like we don't have physical offices where people can come in and interact with us, right? So whenever we talk about a technology and especially as an exciting technology as AI, we've kind of adopted and embraced AI in a very aggressive way, right? So what's fascinating is the definition of what a user has evolved over the last few years.

When we talk about AI-driven initiatives of Vanguard, whether you talked about the expert insights or benefiting our retirement clients, we're no longer talking about just human beings logging into systems, right? Like the processes behind are pretty complex and autonomous combination of humans, systems and AI agents that act, make decisions and execute workflows, complex workflows on behalf of our clients and advisers. So my role in IAM and broadly across security in our organization isn't just about being a gatekeeper, right?

So especially when you talk about gatekeeper, I think people think of like, hey, somebody is stopping people from doing things, right? And that's not what we want to be. It's about building a robust identity-first foundation of trust, so we keep our clients' assets secure, right? So we want our developers and their business units to innovate at lightning speed, but they need to do it within a secure framework. So if we can secure the identity of these AI agents and systems from Day 1, they give the best chance and the best confidence for our business units to innovate fast.

No, I appreciate the context. And I want to come back to that gatekeeper analogy here a little later in this session. I think that's really interesting. But we have a crucial distinction here. We're transitioning from gen AI as a passive copilot, if you will, to autonomous AI agents that are acting as, like you mentioned, a very large, in this case, digital workforce. I don't know if you're hearing kind of this discussion or debate, I certainly am, especially across CISOs and CIOs. But one of the biggest organizational hurdles they have right now is structure. How do we actually govern this? There's a passionate debate around do we need a Chief AI Officer, do we do this via committee? How do we keep control of it?

So Vanguard is interesting. You're in one of the most highly regulated spaces in the world. So I'm curious how you're thinking about this? Are you looking at a Chief AI Officer? Is it a committee? And then more importantly, your team, how do they integrate or coordinate with this structure to make sure that security is moving at pace with innovation and isn't an afterthought?

Yes, it's a great question again. And look, I'm sure every leader in this room and everybody out there is thinking about the same question, right? So we recognized as an organization very early on that AI adoption and governance cannot live in a silo. Like there's not one person who's going to sit and make a decision, right? So we do have an AI Officer. We actually merged the AI Officer with the Engineering or the Technology Officer roles now. But we have established dedicated AI leadership and cross-functional AI governance committees, right?

So there's executive sponsors and then there's governance committees and decision-makers, which includes business leads because they have a very large stake in it, risk officers or legal teams, privacy teams and technology champions, but the one I just held on to the last but not least is the security organization. So the CISO, myself and the security operations center, we're all part of that AI governance council right from Day 1, right? And I am in security organizations, we all have a permanent seat at the table, and we make it a nonnegotiable principle that AI agent is an identity that we have to do, right?

So when our AI governance leads design the guardrails for what an AI system is allowed to do, what my team translate -- does its translate those guardrails into actionable policies, governable policies, right? So if an AI counsel decides they're going to create an adviser-facing agent that can read portfolio data, we make sure that, hey, like if you rebalance the portfolio, you're not actually executing the trade because that's not the intent of it, right? So that constraint reinforces at the IMC layer, right? But not just in the code, but even in the IMC layer. So because of this tight partnership, we ensure that as AI leadership pushes the envelope on what's possible as a security team, we're right there from -- with the right architecture and the dynamic enforcement.

Yes. So a permanent seat at the table, I think that's phenomenal. So I want to transition now and talk about agentic sprawl or this agentic wave that is coming at us or rather on top of us right now. Enterprises are rapidly deploying autonomous AI agents, and this is creating this massive new risk vector for us. These agents adapt, they learn, they take unpredictable actions, which means that legacy static controls completely ineffective, completely ineffective. In fact, we were talking earlier, we have an internal group, and I was asking one of our data scientists interns. I said, what's the one thing I should know about AI? Just tell me one thing, pick it. And she said, AI agents like to please, and they will tunnel through walls. They will jump over buildings. They will wedge their way through even the slag of cracking the doors to get you an answer to the question it thinks you asked. So that's what we're dealing with here. We're dealing with this and at scale. And that's why dynamic, not legacy static, dynamic context to where governance is essential, absolutely essential to secure us in this day and age.

So again, Srinath with Vanguard operating under this kind of intense regulatory scrutiny. I'm curious, how is your team thinking about the unique risks that are associated with this agentic wave? And how does it differ or does it differ from previous shifts like moving to the cloud? And then secondly, how are you considering this part of your strategy?

Yes, absolutely. So I'll address the second part of the question first, which is how do I see this different from like the earlier transitions of like cloud and SaaS? So we moved about 90% of our workloads to the cloud, right? So we've kind of made a huge bet into moving to the cloud. But when I look at those transitions, they were mostly IT-driven initiatives. They were not necessarily like a business saying, I want to move to the cloud, right? But the AI transition has been very much like a joint partnership between the business teams and the IT teams, right?

So the willingness to adopt AI is coming from both sides. So when we started looking at this deeply, we realized that like the traditional security models of being reactive are not scalable. Like that's not something that can fit in this, right? So this is a new reality that we all had to adapt where this adoption of technology is much faster than you can actually prevent it, right?

The blast radius, as I like to say, was much smaller in when we did the cloud migration or the SaaS migration. In that world, if something went wrong, like hey, you can look at a firewall logs, you go to your SIEM logs and get information about what went wrong, right? But we heard this morning, too, on the speed at which AI can cause you to identify vulnerabilities and also exploit that quickly, right? So AI agents act at machine speed with human access, which is really scary, right?

So AI agents can query databases, aggregate data, take actions, talk to other agents, right? So it's very important that you constrain the blast radius of an agent. So especially because if an agent has a hallucination or it's given the wrong data, it can cause severe damage. So it's not just your threat is no longer an external actor coming in and causing damage, it's also a rogue agent internally, which has wrong information provided to it, right?

So that's where -- that's where the active monitoring is too late. We had to realize that identity is the only viable control play, right? So if we don't have absolute real-time visibility of who created an agent, what is the intent and what data does it have access to and what is actually happening in real time, that creates a massive blind spot for us.

Yes, it's a massive blind spot. And at the end of the day, you really can't secure what you can't see. And if you have an AI agent that is operating with a generic shared service account, which is honestly what we see in a lot of these legacy setups, you have 0 accountability. If that agent goes rogue, you have no idea which business unit owns it. You can't even figure out how to shut it down. And by the way, if you can, you have no idea what you're breaking from a business process standpoint down the line.

So I want to double-click and talk a little more about SailPoint in this portion of it, but I'll talk about how we solve this. So if you look across the landscape, there are a lot of vendors out there, a lot of point solutions, and they're touting, discovery and visibility is really their core value. That's great. But simply discovering and finding an agent, that is table stakes, absolutely table stakes, which is why, honestly, we give discovery, we give that capability away for free. The real power isn't finding the agent, it's once you find it, what do we do? What do we do next?

And that's where we do, as Chandra spoke, have a real competitive advantage here. We are the only organization that has that enterprise-wide identity context. We can link these nondeterministic agents to their human owners, and we can govern their intent. So Srinath, I want to understand from you how Vanguard looks at this. When you're deploying AI at scale, how important is context and intent as opposed to discovery? And then from an access governance standpoint, how is that driving your strategy?

I love the free price, by the way, discovery -- but I think you hit -- you kind of mentioned it, which is like when it comes to AI agents, context is everything, right? So if you want to govern an agent: one, you need to find it; and two, you need to understand, hey, what is the intent that it was, right? So we typically ask 3 questions is like who is a human sponsor behind the agent? I think I saw the earlier presentations talking about like how do you do human with agent governance. So human sponsor is very important, right? So every agent must have a human owner who's ultimately accountable for its action. That enforcement is important.

The second part is like what is the intent of the agent? What's the purpose of this agent, right? So like we need to kind of -- should be able to dynamically map the permissions to the specific business function and the need that the agent is created for, right? So you cannot generically give like the broad administrative access to every agent. That's just very over permissive like get close to as close to 0 standing process as possible, right?

And the last but not least is what data is it touching, right? We need to know if it's interacting with public data, proprietary data, client PII, investment information that's considered confidential in our world. So all of that matter quite a bit for us when we think of managing agents, right? The other piece of it is like, hey, you need like a single pane of glass view into your human and nonhuman entity. I think Chandra earlier talked about the scale of humans to machine or nonhuman entities being 1 to 100, 1 to 1,000. The scale of impact is huge in this world, right? So having a single system where you can see all of this in one place is very helpful.

And again, kind of coming back to the governance aspect of it, it's, hey, if the owner of the agent leaves the company, what's your process, right? Life cycle management becomes a major concern. So -- or if the agent's behavior deviates from what its original intent is or people change the access on it, like do you have a way of flagging it and governing it and reviewing it, right?

So I like the feature of like the certification of agents. Like we don't do that as well for service identities today. But getting into the agentic world, I think that's an area that we need to kind of really, really get better at.

Yes. No, that's great insight. And watching and flagging that behavior, that is that dynamic context that we're talking about that is so critical right now. So as I'm listening to your answers, it's clear that you've managed to find that perfect balance between security and innovation. I may have you talk to other customers about that as well, but we'll talk after this. But unfortunately, and back to the gatekeeper analogy, I still have conversations where I hear from leaders that they're leveraging security as a brake pedal and they're slamming on the brakes.

They're saying, okay, we got to stop and then we'll figure out this whole AI and then we'll start moving quickly. But to use a Formula 1 analogy, foundationally, if you have good brakes, you can go 200 miles an hour right out the gate. And that's how fast we need to move right now. So knowing Vanguard was a customer for 10 years, you've got a very, very strong foundation. So I'm curious, how has that and from a security standpoint, enabled your business to innovate faster yet still stay secure?

I love the brake pedal analogy because I've been in the security industry for about 4 years, 5 years, but before that, I used to call security the, [ no police ]. So -- but when we kind of think of security at Vanguard, right, we -- like, yes, our primary purpose is to protect client assets and Vanguard's assets. But the second goal or the second mission statement we have is how do we be the enabler for the developed organization, right? So securing identity is our ultimate business enabler, right? And because we have like a robust IAM and security frameworks, our development teams don't come to us with every little thing, like we give generic frameworks and then they can navigate if take risk-based approaches. But we don't spend months negotiating on -- with security and compliance and privacy and everybody else on, hey, if you want to launch a tool, right?

So we have out-of-the-box decision frameworks that we can leverage to kind of go and implement things, right? They know that if they're -- if they want to create an agent, they have to assign a human sponsor, they have to request the exact privileges through our SailPoint system, and they can deploy to production pretty rapidly, right? So that foundation of trust and control allows us to innovate safely while at the same time protecting our clients, right?

So -- and adopting latest AI breakthroughs, I mean, there's so much happening every single day, every single hour. I'm pretty sure by the time we finish this conversation, there's a new frontier model that we should be scared about. But there's so much happening that you need to kind of have a quick decision process and an ZPass lane for those of you on the East Coast that we think of.

I think that's so important. That decision framework, I haven't really thought about that, but having a way to react and respond quickly is going to further the trust between the -- that's great advice. I'm going to ask you for one other piece of advice just to close this out. What is the single biggest recommendation, words of wisdom that you would give to others that are navigating their way through this logistic space?

Yes, this is a tough question. But look, technologies like AI, quantum, blockchain, like you name it, like they are really pushing the pace of change. I've been in the industry for 20-plus years now and the pace of change just keeps increasing and increasing and increasing. And it is exciting to see what these advances can do, whether it's health care industry or financial services or client service, security professionals, we as security professionals cannot be the roadblock. You used that analogy of brake pedal, we cannot be their roadblock. We have to figure out how to fundamentally redesign security to be more of an enabler like what I talked about at the beginning of the adoption because if you tend to be the no police and people tend to go around you, which is a much bigger risk. So you want to make sure that you're staying ahead of the game or at least at the table at the beginning and designing your system, so it's easy for people to create and adopt security as a service, right?

So don't wait until you have a sprawl, agent sprawl to think about identity. And if you're waiting for developers to build dozens of autonomous agents before you come up with your agentic security strategy, it's too late. Like then you're running around to kind of grab your arms around the whole problem, right? So you'll end up with a legacy mess of unmanaged service accounts, shadow AI and massive security gaps. So it's something that you have to be worried about. And start treating AI agents as first-class citizens, right, in your identity directory. So establish your governance frameworks, partner closely with your AI leadership teams, whether wherever they are in the technology domain, business domain, privacy, legal and build an identity control plane that can scale at the speed of how the industry is moving. So start early and figure out a way to enable.

Great, great words of advice. And you mentioned don't wait for agent sprawl. I think the reality is it's out there. It's, we just assume it's there and you need to tackle it. So thank you. Thank you so much for joining us, sharing your insights and of course, for being such a great partner along the way. I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

And at this point, I'm going to transition to our Chief People Officer, Abby Payne; and our CIO, Sreeveni Kancharla.

Good morning or good afternoon, everybody. I'm happy to say that I am not the last presenter before lunch. Brian Carolan gets that distinction. So we'll get through some of our internal AI initiatives together with Sree. I'm really thrilled to be here. Thank you all so much for being here. I'm also excited to share how SailPoint is driving innovation through our own internal AI transformation, improving both our employee and customer experiences and while minimizing the risk that you've heard about all today. As I said, I'm joined by Sree Kancharla, our Chief Information Officer. She keeps me kind of on the rails on the technology. I appreciate her so much.

Because, look, a lot of you may look at me and go, gosh, your Chief People Officer is up here talking about AI infrastructure and kind of IT readiness. Why is the Head of HR talking about this? I'll tell on myself a little bit here. Last night, as I was practicing some of my remarks, I actually vibe coded a teleprompter like the one in the back that we've all used today. My vibe coding did not work in fact, and so it was a lot to do for nothing.

But I think when Mark asked me to do this, his vision was actually very clear that AI is not a traditional SaaS or software deployment. It's actually a fundamental shift in the way humans work together. And so that's why we decided to pair these functions together during what is an incredibly transformational time. So we've gotten really specific in order to avoid the AI sprawl that Meredith just talked about to anchor our strategy around 3 specific outcomes: revenue generation, customer experience and as I talked about, workforce transformation.

And then to put even more rigor to that, we've really structured our own execution internally on 4 core pillars or 4 things we really want to do well before we move to the next step. First, tooling. We have delivered a baseline productivity tool called Neptune, everything at SailPoint is Nautical, if you haven't heard that today, to our entire employee base. And really, our goal there is to better enable our crew, our employees, for both job efficiency, right, we've heard a lot about job efficiency, and effectiveness.

The second is integration. So we are connecting Gemini and other core LLMs directly to our big internal data systems and applications that allow our employees secure contextual answers and insights right at their fingers sort of immediately to both augment and accelerate their work. Third, agents. We are automating high-friction workflows. You've heard some of them described today by deploying highly specialized vended agents in partnership with some of our large application vendors that you can think of ServiceNow, Workday, Salesforce.

And then fourth, velocity. You heard a little bit of this from Chandra. We are really shifting IT from a centralized gatekeeper through this process to a decentralized enabler. Rather than forcing all that we do with AI through a single, sometimes time-constrained queue, we are building a secure, scalable infrastructure. I'll continue the car reference that Meredith just talked about. IT is paving this road and the business is really driving the execution.

And so to this point, our work has really brought us to 2 critical realizations. As I said, first, true AI transformation is about human behavior change. And second, as I said, this is not a traditional technology rollout. We really want to encourage exploration all across the business, create a pull to AI, not a push. And so we're pairing our safe technical infrastructure with a strategic sort of organizational model that seamlessly integrates both top-down guidance, right, hearing from the top about what we want to do and bottoms-up organic ideation.

So top-down, we have really called on our functional leaders to take ownership of those large-scale high-friction workflows in their own corners of the company, right? We have lots of use cases, lots of those high-friction workflows that we can go address. We can't address them all through IT. So that's why we're asking our other leaders to take ownership and responsibility.

We're also arming them with AI toolkits. We're helping them set expectations, and we're really setting a tone with our employees across the business around the importance of impactful, innovative and responsible use of AI in all the jobs that all of our people do. And then bottoms up, we've established a network of sort of grassroots AI, what we call AI champions and super champions across the company. Steve Caldwell, who you've heard a couple of times from today is one of our super champions across SailPoint. They help us ideate. They help us really importantly deliver business value and priority, right? We could think of 10,000 cases to go build, but we want to build ones that actually solve problems. They help us troubleshoot and then they really help set that tone and set best practice inside the business all across our organization.

And then finally, we are reinforcing this culturally across the company. This is where the people side of my job actually comes in. We're highlighting wins in AI Digest every week. We're talking about it at All Hands. We're integrating it into the fabric of how we operate inside the company. We're even doing awards. I did hear the rumors of awards being given for most tokens being used at other organizations and then huge consumption bills showing up at the end of the month. That's not the kind of awards I'm talking about. We really are just attempting to have our employees use AI as another one of their tools in their toolkit as they complete their work every day as they deliver on the value that they create for SailPoint.

We really consider AI to be a next-generation tool, an element that professional growth and development of our organization is really critical to bring those 2 things together.

So as we look to the horizon, the journey is pretty clear. I like that this slide has a curve, but it is not that smooth. It actually behaves a little bit more like a step function. And SailPoint currently sits very squarely between augmentation and making our human employees faster and more effective and true end-to-end automation. We actually believe we'll get there, and we'll achieve this by automating all those routine operational tasks, which frees our crew, our human beings to elevate the judgment and the human-centered approach in all that we do, particularly because we have such a strong differentiated relationship with our customers. We never want to lose that.

And that's really how we scale this business, not by adding more people to do the same tasks, but by improving the strategic impact of every person we have by removing those volume tasks that take up so much of their day.

Our goal is to seamlessly integrate AI into every facet of our business, how we build our solutions, you heard about that from Chandra, how we enhance credibility with our customer, you heard that from the revenue organization, and really how we evolve the entire operational model to include a digital workforce that is running right alongside our crew members.

So this is -- this next slide is a little bit of a hot topic, as I said, with the consumption bill catching some companies off guard. We really want to be really intentional about how we both measure value and manage expense related to our AI investment. And we've heard lots of different anecdotes in the market about this but to be transparent, it is still too early for us to commit to permanent bottom line cost savings or hard reductions in future hiring targets.

Instead, we are really focusing on leading indicators, building a framework of those to score use cases on 2 fronts: one, the value they create for our business; and two, the feasibility of addressing them, of building them. And so we're monitoring that AI spend on a weekly basis, particularly the consumption front.

And really, one of Mark's long-time core values of this organization is innovation, and that has served us at SailPoint for so long. We have not built technology and then gone and run to find a problem to go buy it, we have looked -- first looked for a problem, identified a problem and then built the technology. We want to apply that same rationale here. So our goal is prioritizing the use cases that we're building and investment where there's real demonstrable value, particularly to avoid the AI sprawl that you just heard from Meredith.

In fact, I do want to share a little early win we've had with Neptune with our enterprise-wide employee efficiency tool. Our engagement is already really high, like in the 80s percent where we have employees using Neptune every day in their work. And I'm happy to share that, that deployment has actually paid for itself because we've been able to cancel or consolidate various SaaS applications whose functionality is now fully covered by the tools. So not only are we helping our employees do their jobs more effectively and more efficiently, we're also reducing risk in our business by reducing the number of AI or number of SaaS tools that we have in our stack.

So let's take a quick look at the -- just go back one maybe. Let's take a quick look at all the use cases emerging across our business. I'm not going to read this slide. I just want to share the kind of breadth and depth of what we're pursuing at SailPoint. Many of these are in various states of development or maturity, but what this really demonstrates is there is not a corner of our business where we are not thinking about how we deploy AI to make whatever role in that part of the organization more efficient and more effective.

You just heard from Meredith, actually, we flip to the next one, I'll tell you a couple of ones where we've made some really nice progress. Obviously, Meredith owns our customer support and our customer success organizations. First, in customer support, we have realized meaningful reduction in incoming support tickets from our customers, while our average time to resolution has improved by 10%. The really interesting thing here is we've seen a more than 90% increase in our knowledge-based creation, meaning that our AI models are actually learning faster, which continuously improves our self-serve accuracy.

And then in customer success, this is actually a really interesting one. In customer success, we're leveraging AI, all the data we have in all of our applications about our customers. So think ServiceNow, Gainsight, Salesforce, even some of our professional services tools, we use all that information to leverage AI, auto-generating customer health summaries that our account managers used to manually bring together, building comprehensive 360 account views. And that's really helpful to our account managers. One, they go into our customers' arm with more insightful information; two, they can extract action items from our client interactions to take actions on this quicker; and then three, help score those companies. And what that does is allows us to identify and potentially remediate churn months earlier than we were previously able.

And this is not theoretical efficiency. We are not talking about something we think could impact our business that we are hopeful will impact. We're seeing it today. It is real. It's active operational leverage that's giving hours back to our crew members every single day.

With that, what we'd like to do is share the information we're learning in real time with our customers as they're on their own AI transformation journey, and Sree is going to talk a little bit about customer zero.

Thank you, Abby. With all the AI innovation and transformation we are driving to accelerate SailPoint business, a unique part of our strategy is being customer zero. At SailPoint, we are proud to be the very first and undeniably the most demanding user of our own platform and its advanced AI capabilities. Chandra couldn't agree more about this fact because we troubled that team a lot, a lot, a lot of the real-time feedback. This brings us to -- I want to focus on SailPoint Agentic Fabric.

Today, we have successfully deployed some of the already existing key features, which actively are protecting SailPoint as we roll out all the AI agents across our enterprise. Whether our teams are using Gemini, Cursor, Claude, our AWS Bedrock, our guardrails are very active. Through our discovery and unified registry capabilities, we can instantly discover agents across all SaaS platforms, endpoints and browser profiles. At the heart of this visibility is our unified identity graph, which connects the dots between human users, entitlements, machine identities and active agents.

To give a sense of our scale of customer zero, we are currently governing nearly 4,000-plus agents, almost 1,100 application machine accounts and a couple of hundred service accounts. These capabilities allow us to aggressively mitigate shadow AI risk, steering our global force into secure gen AI environments while completely shutting down any unauthorized access to the tools. Furthermore, our real-time governance and audit capabilities, we are establishing a new industry standard for life cycle management, data access governance and continuous compliance through human-in-the-loop certifications.

Looking ahead, I'm incredibly excited about our upcoming authorized protect and response road map, which will bring the real-time just-in-time security and the prompt level protection, which Chandra talked this morning and then Mark was also mentioning to the market. And we'll be the first one to test that, which is very exciting. And then we are actually working very closely with product and engineering teams around this. This internal expertise allowed us to precisely create the blueprint of our own customer zero journey and create the project Odyssey by sharing our value, real-world experience along with we are helping our customers eliminate any deployment bottlenecks, accelerate the time to value and drive faster adoption with our own ISC platform.

Our leadership in this space is why we feel that we are kind of design partners working on validating all the key features along with any incubating ideas too, we do that. And the other thing, I think, is we are partnering with Google to see how we can connect that to ISC platform and govern Gemini AI agents, too. So we are able to do that as design partner because of this. So thank you so much for your time today. I would like to pass it on to Abby now.

Anyway, thank you so much for, of course, spending some time with us today. I'm about to turn it over to Brian Carolan, our Chief Financial Officer, who's got lots of fun data and then obviously, before lunch. But thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Abby, and thanks, Sree. This is what you've all been waiting for patiently. So good afternoon, good morning. Thanks, everyone, for being here. We really appreciate you giving up your time. Hopefully, you find this a very informative day. So it's a pleasure to be here to provide a detailed update on our financial strategy and the powerful momentum we're building in the business. Over the next few minutes, I'm going to walk you through our long-term vision, the clear and actionable paths we're taking to get there and the financial discipline that underpins our entire strategy.

We're incredibly excited about the future we are building, and my goal is to give you a clear view into why we are so confident.

So let's start with that future view. We've set out 4 ambitious but achievable targets for fiscal year 2029 that serve as our North Star. First, we expect ARR growth to accelerate to over $2.1 billion by FY '29. This acceleration is based off the FY '27 ARR guidance we provided last week, which we are reiterating today. Secondly, we are targeting over $800 million in ARR from our AI solutions, cementing our position as an innovation leader in identity security. I'll get deeper into the definition shortly, but as Matt mentioned, we'll be landing humans and AI together. So you cannot isolate the $800 million of AI-driven ARR to derive insights into the remaining human-centric part of the business.

Lastly, we are building this business for the long term with a focus on profitability and efficiency. That's why we're committed to achieving an adjusted operating margin of over 22% and generating over $400 million in free cash flow by FY '29. We are focused on both growth and cash flow generation to deliver shareholder value. So how do we get there? Our strategy is straightforward and consistent with the growth algorithm that we've been executing against for the past several years, with half of our growth coming from new customers and half coming from existing customers. With half of our growth coming from new customers and half coming from existing customers. Within each of these go-to-market motions, we have multiple durable paths to achieving greater than $2.1 billion of ARR.

With respect to new logo acquisition, there are 3 primary drivers. First, as Matt covered, we have a target account list of 15,000 enterprises, which includes many of the world's largest and most complex organizations. These are typically enterprises with more than 5,000 human identities and greater than $1 billion in revenue. In these accounts, we are actively displacing legacy homegrown or insufficient point solutions, and we would expect the nonhuman identities to far outpace human identities over time.

Our SailPoint Agentic Fabric, also known as SAF, represents a large incremental go-to-market opportunity for us. It is designed to work everywhere to secure a customer's entire agentic footprint even if they use a different platform for basic access management. We believe this provides an incremental avenue of growth to penetrate legacy environments without the upfront upgrade.

But landing the customer is just the beginning. Our expand motion is equally powerful. We expect to grow with our customers by upgrading them to our agentic suites, migrating them from on-premise to our modern SaaS platform and cross-selling additional capabilities and capacity to meet their evolving needs. This balanced approach gives us confidence in our ability to execute year in and year out. Looking ahead, our agentic solutions will be our primary go-to-market engine. By the time we exit fiscal '29, we expect this AI-driven motion to represent greater than $800 million of ARR.

So how do we define AI ARR? This category encompasses our Agentic Fabric, our Agentic Suites and our Agentic add-on modules. Whenever we land a new logo, win a competitive displacement or upgrade an existing customer to our new AI solutions, we will count that full annual contract value as AI ARR. Our agentic pipeline is strong, and we expect AI ARR to be greater than $100 million by the end of this fiscal year.

One important note for your models, because this AI metric captures both human and nonhuman identity revenue, any remaining non-AI ARR won't give you an accurate read-through on our human-centric offerings. We chose this specific methodology, because it reflects underlying customer demand and preferences. Based on this new commercial model that Wendy presented earlier, we are effectively doubling our accessible budget pool. We are moving beyond the traditional IT budgets and tapping directly into net new AI and cloud budgets, owned by Chief AI Officers.

As it relates to winning new customers, our SaaS platform is the engine driving our growth. As you can see, the green portion of these bars is growing significantly faster than the blue as customers leverage our latest innovations. While our total customer base is growing at a healthy mid- to high single-digit rate, our SaaS customer base is growing in the mid- to high teens year-over-year. And these are not small customers. The average ARR for a new SaaS logo is approximately $400,000, growing 20% year-over-year on a trailing 12-month basis. We believe this demonstrates the strategic importance and value of the problems we solve right from the start of the relationship.

Now I also want to spend a moment on the migration opportunity that is also accelerating. To date, we've migrated approximately 15% of our on-prem installed base. The remaining 85% represents approximately $350 million of ARR. We expect to migrate at least 10% of this base each year, accelerating off our recent trajectory. There are several factors fueling this acceleration, including our commitment to innovation and the rapidly growing demand for AI security.

As organizations adopt AI, they are recognizing a critical need for robust governance and security across all identities, human, machine and agentic. Our platform provides the framework to secure this new frontier, and that is driving a clear sense of urgency. And we're making this easier with things like you saw SailPoint Agentic Acceleration and our flex pricing offerings, which Matt discussed earlier.

Migrating customers to our platform has become significantly faster and easier, helping us unlock a $1 billion-plus opportunity. But this is not a onetime benefit. At the time of migration, we see an immediate 2 to 3x uplift in the customer's ARR. But what is really exciting is what happens next. Once on our SaaS platform, we have the opportunity to expand that relationship even further, leading to a 3 to 4x plus multiple on their original on-prem spend over time. In fact, we are seeing this expansion in our initial cohort of customers that have modernized with our SaaS platform.

Our growth model is built on a foundation of exceptional customer retention. For several years running, we've maintained a gross retention rate of 97% or higher. This speaks directly to the mission-critical value of our platform. But we just don't retain customers, we grow alongside them. Our expand strategy is fueled by our core net retention rate drivers, migrations, suite upgrades, cross-selling and capacity expansion.

Let's look specifically at the upgrade opportunity with our new Agentic Suites. Currently, our existing suites represent approximately $0.5 billion of ARR. As we transition our customer base to these new agentic offerings, we anticipate a powerful upgrade motion driving a 25% to 50% uplift. Ultimately, our growth is intrinsically linked to delivering compounding value to a highly successful customer base.

To understand our P&L dynamics, let's look at the ARR picture again, focusing on the SaaS contribution. It's clear that SaaS is our primary growth driver. In FY '26, our SaaS mix of net new ARR was 83%. And in fiscal '27, we expect this mix to increase to 90% to 95%. By FY '29, we expect that to be near 100%. The transition to SaaS is fueling incredible momentum with a projected SaaS ARR compound annual growth rate of over 30% between now and fiscal year '29. This will result in our SaaS ARR growing to greater than $1.7 billion by FY '29, forming the vast majority of our total business. This is the definition of a durable high-growth recurring revenue business.

Now it's important to discuss how this transition to a SaaS-first model impacts our revenue recognition. This is a critical point for understanding our financial trajectory. As our SaaS mix increases, it creates a temporary headwind on our recognized revenue and adjusted operating income growth. This is due to the difference between upfront or point-in-time revenue recognition for term licenses versus ratable recognition for SaaS.

For example, a typical 3-year deal -- term deal requires 60% of the revenue to be recognized upfront in the period of sale. Conversely, the ratable recognition of a SaaS deal would result in over 50% less revenue in the initial year, but 2.5x greater revenue in years 2 and 3. It is important to note that our underlying ARR growth and free cash flow generation are largely unaffected in either scenario. This is a planned transition. And as you can see, we expect revenue growth to reaccelerate as we move past this mix shift. We are consciously building a more durable and predictable business for the long term.

Despite those revenue recognition dynamics, we are committed to expanding both our adjusted operating income and free cash flow margins. In FY '27, we are modeling a working capital headwind from the fiscal year shift. As we fully normalize the quarterly booking shift, mostly from December to January, we expect working capital to turn into a positive contributor starting in FY '28. As we scale our business and our SaaS transition matures, we expect to drive significant operating leverage. This will be fueled by productivity increases across the company. As you can see, we would expect to achieve our target of 22% margin for both adjusted operating income and free cash flow by FY '29, demonstrating the efficiency and profitability of our model at scale.

As we move past the SaaS term impact, we expect our free cash flow margin to exceed our adjusted operating margin beyond FY '29. This all comes together in our long-term financial model. This table provides the blueprint for how we see our financial profile evolving. You can see the journey from our historical performance to our FY '29 targets and beyond. We expect to maintain a robust adjusted gross profit margin profile as we scale our cloud infrastructure. We will drive significant leverage in our sales and marketing and R&D functions, as we become more efficient and embrace new AI technologies, and we will maintain discipline in G&A. This all flows down to our FY '29 targets of at least 22% for both adjusted operating margin and free cash flow, driven by the combination of operating leverage and the SaaS/Term mix we've discussed.

We also expect to reduce our stock-based compensation from approximately 20% this year to the mid-teens, resulting in 2% to 3% share dilution. It's important to note that we expect to see an SBC reduction in FY '28 as we move past the 2-year grants associated with the IPO. With durable growth drivers that should sustain our 20% growth rate and expanding adjusted margin profile into the low 20s, we believe we are an attractive Rule of 40-plus company.

But we believe there is more. While we expect to maintain our balanced growth profile between new and existing customers for the next couple of years, over time, we expect more of our growth will come from our installed base, expanding our NRR profile. What we have laid out today, which supports a very compelling and accelerating growth story from new logos, existing customer expansion, migrations and new routes to market, all of this is still in the early innings. As such, we have multiple levers to pull to achieve and potentially exceed our long-term goals. As a result, we see many paths to expand beyond the Rule of 50.

So to bring it all together, I want to reiterate the 3 key themes that define our story. First, innovation. Our advancements in AI and real-time governance are not merely product features. They are foundational to our strategy and serve as the primary engine driving our future growth.

Second, differentiation. We stand apart through our sheer depth and breadth of our identity coverage, our ability to link nonhuman identities to human owners and our capacity to accelerate AI identity security for our enterprise customers. Ultimately, we believe we are uniquely positioned with the right platform, the right data and the proven expertise to continue to lead in the next era of identity security.

And third, our multiple paths to the FY '29 plan. As I stated earlier, there are multiple paths to achieve and potentially exceed our long-term goals. We have a clear vision, a proven strategy and a disciplined financial plan to get there. We are building the future of identity security. And in doing so, we are confident that we will deliver significant and sustained value to you, our shareholders.

Thank you. And with that, I'd like to invite the rest of the team up, and we'll take some questions. Thank you.

Thank you, Brian. Well, the team gets assembled here. The deck you just saw today will be posted online.

All right. Who's up first? Saket?

Saket Kalia from Barclays. Thanks so much for hosting today. Really, really informative. Mark and Brian, maybe for you, just to kind of get right into that great target for '29. Can we dig into the 2 to 3x uplift that you're seeing from on-prem customers? What have you seen from the 15% of the base that you've converted life to date, in terms of what you're actually seeing? And how are we thinking about that uplift in the path to $2 billion in fiscal '29? Does it make sense?

Thanks, Saket, for your question. Appreciate it. So we've actually been maintaining that 2 to 3x uplift fairly consistently for the past couple of years. So we've been migrating or modernizing our customer base from on-prem to SaaS. And we do see that typical consistent 2 to 3x uplift. And as I mentioned, as you extend that beyond into like years 3 and years 4, we start seeing a 3 to 4x plus uplift. So we think this is an exciting opportunity. We're expecting at least 10% of our on-prem base to migrate each year. It could go beyond that, especially as you see all of the innovations that we made to make it easier for customers to migrate, and we have more upsell opportunities. So I think we're being fairly reasonable with that 10% number, but it could go higher.

Peter Levine at Evercore. Mark, the comment this morning changed from, I guess, the IPO, which is now you're saying about 1,000 identities attached to one human. You have $5 billion, so call it, 5 trillion potential new monetization opportunities. Maybe to Saket's question is, if you think about the migration, are you seeing faster migrations? I know, Brian, you said 10%, but is it forcing customers now to kind of move to the cloud quicker? I mean is that part of this longer-term path towards the $2 billion plus?

So I'll start, and I'll let Mark chime in. So we've been doing this trying to meet the customer where they are, right? We feel like it's important to not force them to modernize. We want them to want to modernize and improve their overall posture. And so we're seeing a lot more customer interest and they're coming to us with wanting to modernize. We view that as a really big positive for us. It's all the innovations that we've come out with. So it's that carrot and stick approach, that carrots out there. It's the innovation carrot that I think is driving it.

I think 2 things coming to mind, Peter. One is the catalyst for this is certainly the Agentic Acceleration that the customers are feeling to your point. We wouldn't characterize them as 1,000:1 yet, but they seem to be on that trajectory. They're over 100:1 is sort of our current estimation, including all machine types, not agents, just to be really clear, right?

But on the other hand, I would say 2 things are changing in what you heard today. One is the move from should we consider or is our organization thinking about agentic seems to have flipped this year too. We're doing this. It's the rate and pace. And as you heard even Sri talk about our organization, every organization you know when they put in some of these discovery capabilities, they have a lot more than they knew. That is 100% consistent. There's more already happening than IT is typically aware of.

And then secondly, don't miss the importance of the Agentic Acceleration we've talked about today. We have now demonstrated that we can take months to days in that process. And when we approach customers with those 3 things, you've got to get to agentic. We can do it way faster than you thought and therefore, way cheaper than you thought in terms of spending SI money. Those are the stick and carrot combos that we think are going to unlock. So as Brian said, we're committing to a 10% plus in that migration category. Lots of reasons to think it could be higher than 10%, but that's where we are today in the middle of the second quarter. But things are changing quarter-by-quarter in the world we're living in.

Great. Maybe, Gray? Kelly, could you hand him the mic.

Gray Powell, BTIG. So yes, I just wanted to follow up on that question and perfect timing. My notes just like fizzled out on me here.

But you've got it all right.

Yes, I got it right anyway. I think it was one of the customer examples where they reduced the amount of human work in a migration by 80%. Is that what you're seeing on average? And I'm just trying to like sort of...

Yes, I'll let Matt comment, but it's new, Gray, right, to be fair.

And is it like a migration is going from 8 or 9 months to like a couple of months? Or I'm just trying to like frame that up.

Yes. Look, that's absolutely it. I mean we haven't -- we probably, I don't know, we've done a dozen of these, 15 of them, right? But it's something that we're using every chance we get. And look, you're always going to have these corner cases where they've done some extreme things, maybe they're using some of the old IBM connectors and that will take a little bit more elbow grease. But I think our expectation is that 80% to 90% is going to become common in terms of the migration.

And Gray, the thing you should think about is that we're accelerating the piece. You heard Rex talk about the good stuff, which is the business transformation, right, the change management, where they really excel. The slowness in these migrations was the foundational piece, right, doing the conversion of all the connectors, having to do the research. I don't -- I mean, Jeff talked a lot about it, but the fact that we could actually go run and come up with the research discovery really, just like we're discovering everything else. You sit here and think about some of these systems that have been around 8, 9, 10 years, probably through as fast as the CISO goes, maybe 5 or 6 CISOs, right? And so you double this layered change that's sitting and nobody ever finds out about it.

Now we've got a tool that comes in and says you have this many modifications, you have this many workflows, you have this many entitlements, you have this many identities. I mean -- and it delivers it in minutes. And so it takes a big chunk of that manual discovery work that had to take place. So yes, I think you're going to see -- I think customers are going to be thrilled. I think it's going to change the way, as Steve Caldwell said, we engage customers, and it's going to compress this process of selling and deploying, right? And I think it's going to be pretty exciting, and it's going to be -- it's going to change a lot.

Great. Maybe, Shaul?

It's interesting that CyberArk and Varonis -- Varonis is probably towards the end of the migration process. CyberArk, Mark, your good old friend has done it quite successfully. If history is any guidance, and I know that past performance is not indicative. I think that 10% is going to be a little faster. But again, that's my humble opinion. My question is, some of your on-premise customers, have they shown a little resistance? And I know Brian talked about this carrot and stick. I'm actually interested in hearing your views about if a stick is to be used, what's that stick looks like?

Sometimes it's a long thin carrot. Yes. No, I think we see -- it's a couple of things, and Meredith sure or Matt can speak to this too very well. Within that IIQ base, there is a diversion -- dispersion of types of customers. There are some small customers, I'd like to say it this way, that bought IIQ because that's all we had at the time. I think 12 years ago, they would have been a SaaS customer first that we had it, it wasn't the right time to market, et cetera.

And some of them may or may not move with us. And if they're really small and not willing to be aggressive, we may just -- our customer count, we don't get tied up on our customer count growth. We think about the right kinds of customers growing. The mid-to-larger customers in that IIQ base are feeling that pressure to move to agentic. And I think the resistance that they had, just kind of sounds like I'm beating the horse here or the financial hump to get over, which was both the cost doubling while you had to do the migration with both products and the SI cost could make that migration happen. We're dramatically changing those with the flex pricing and with the Agentic Acceleration.

Then there's the carrot -- the true carrot, which is I got to get this agentic thing solved. One of the reasons that the team decided to separate Agentic Fabric at its own kind of unique module, if somebody is feeling so much pressure to get to that, they can actually procure SAF, before they make the migration to cloud. We think most of our customers will kind of do that altogether, go from IIQ to ISC plus Agentic Fabric. But now they have multiple paths forward depending on the pressure they're feeling in the organization. I don't know if you had anything else to that.

I would just say, look, when you look at that IIQ installed base, probably 40% of them represent about 85% of the value, right? And those are the larger companies. Those are ones that really have a SaaS-first mindset. They're going to go. It was always about timing. I think one of the challenges they get into now is in their head, right, they still have this migration thing, which is -- it's like voodoo for customers, right? They're like migration, it's bad. And now we're taking some of that away. We're taking some of the economic issues away. And with what we just announced here today, that will take a lot more. And so I think you'll see a lot of these start to accelerate maybe a little bit faster.

We've really spent -- Gary and his team, they've done a wonderful job of understanding what the barriers are to move forward and they just plow their way through and just kind of remove those barriers. And there's not many left, to be honest with you, with all the stuff that Chandra is building and delivering, it kind of becomes a no-brainer, like I got to go.

Meta, we go to you.

Meta Marshall, Morgan Stanley. I guess just in terms of how to think about -- understanding you have on the slide kind of 6 items that you were taking into consideration on pricing, API calls and number of agents. Understanding Flex gives you a lot of flexibility in early days around pricing. But just what are you seeing in terms of that conversation of just kind of ratio of costs that we can think of in terms of humans to agents? And just as we think about that $90 billion TAM that you guys laid out, like how much should we consider that expansion to be from number of agents or identities that you're managing versus kind of expansion of the platform?

Do you want to...

Yes. I mean what we've really tried to do, as I was saying earlier, with the migrations is create this buying habit where it's easy to buy. And there's inhibitors that have been pretty consistent since we started talking about these nonhumans. And one of them is nobody has any idea about how many they have. And everybody is really concerned about these runaway costs. And so with our pricing model, the teams done a pretty good job of removing that, right? So we still get our traditional uplift from -- that we've put in historically to jump from IIQ to Business Suite or to Business Plus, right? And so you'll get that jump.

But your initial buy will give you an allocation of nonhumans with the product. And so now you can start deploying and using and then there will be a series of expansion packs where you'll buy as you go forward. So it lets you -- and I'll call this, these are consumption -- these are expansion packs, right, meaning there's all these tiering systems historically. This is when you get to one tier, you got to buy, you get -- it's not like that. This is basically expansion packs and you control how much you buy. And so it's really given the customer complete visibility and control of their environment, which is, I think, removing a big obstacle in getting people comfortable with moving forward.

Just on the TAM question, too, things have changed so much over the last couple of years, we were on the IPO roadshow, I mean, we're at $55 billion of the TAM. I mean most of that was human identity. This is exploding at this point in time and evolving. So I mean we feel like $90 billion is a good estimate right now, but I think that's -- it's really driven by the nonhuman aspect.

All right. I know we'll get to everybody. So about Shrenik, and then we'll go to Josh and Junaid.

Shrenik Kothari from Baird. So Brian, you did lay out a path from AI-related ARR pretty much at $100 million this year, actuating pretty meaningfully to $800 million plus by fiscal '29. I know you said it's hard to unpack completely. You gave a sense of language to expand. But just curious, across the core pillars, right, you, of course, mentioned about the discovery and governance and then added the Protect pillar. Just curious how are you thinking about relative contribution to this AI ARR acceleration from these pillars?

I don't think we break it down that way, because they're buying that complete value proposition. And certainly, the pricing just assumes you're getting all 3 of those core pillars. So I don't know that we would be able to say they are ascribing more value to this that or the other. I think probably the main thing to take away from that, and we'll be a little more direct maybe than we were in the presentation. There's a lot of noise from some hot start-ups that are doing agentic management, and they are primarily doing discovery, classification, visibility. That's it. And what we've been asked in some settings is, well, when that kind of company, I won't name them, you all probably know, but I won't. That kind of company shows up around you guys, what happens? And the answer is they show up, they start doing discovery in that enterprise account. And then the customer said, this is great. Now how do I take action? Oh, I need to connect to SailPoint for that.

Right. But if we could provide that discovery and visibility and take action, why would you need that independent agent tool that only gives you visibility, but doesn't allow you to respond and remediate. So I think we're going to see, hopefully, a little bit of wind come out of the sales of the hot new, hey, I've got this agentic answer for you, and now customers are figuring out, that's great that you can help me find these things. Now I need to do something. And that's where they frankly hit a ball.

Josh?

My question is more along the lines of -- I felt like at the earnings call, the message was something along the lines of AI is really early, so we still want to be conservative. And I feel like today, the message coming out of here is kind of AI is awesome, so we're guiding to accelerating ARR. And I'm just trying to kind of reconcile those 2 messages. Does that mean we should expect all this excitement to be a next year and beyond thing through the '29 target? Just how do I kind of -- how do I assess those what feel like 2 competing excitement points?

Well, that was last week, Josh. I'm kidding. Brian can explain that.

We do feel it building. We tried to lay out just some data points. For example, last fiscal quarter, 40% of the identity growth came from nonhuman identities, right? 20% of our net new ARR was from emerging products inclusive of AI. We still feel like it's still early innings, but we see the budget building. As Gary mentioned, budgets have been doubling quarter-over-quarter. So it's there. I think what we're trying to just be a little bit prudent on as to when it exactly hits into what quarter. So -- but we feel the tailwinds coming. It's a matter of when, not if.

Yes. The simple answer, Josh, is last year, we were talking about the rest of this year. Today, we're talking about the next 2 years beyond that. And that's what we said qualitatively on the call last week was we see this momentum coming and everybody like, well, why is it showing up in this year's guidance? And we said, because we're not comfortable calling that yet. So as Brian said, we are reiterating this year's guidance, and we are giving you that confidence with a 2-year out model that says we're comfortable lifting the model 2 years out. That's the confidence we see in the momentum building. I hope that helps.

Great. Junaid?

Great. Mark, you've positioned the Agentic Fabric as this work anywhere control plane that you can sell stand-alone even to enterprises running legacy IGA stacks. If a customer adopts the Agentic Fabric over a fragmented or, let's say, messy legacy human identity foundation, how do you enforce or ensure accountable ownership without inheriting the poor data quality that's underlying that identity system?

I'll probably let Chandra handle that one because we've talked about how this SAF is going to work in the context of other tools. There is going to be somewhat less delivered value, we think, which will ideally create magnetic pull for those customers to get on to our cloud IGA product. But I'll let you talk about how it work with an IBM or an Oracle or something else.

Yes. So we have really invested in a ton of tooling to do -- so when we actually bring the identity context, the human context, not just from IIQ, but from almost any legacy. We do all of the cleanup in the process of bringing it in. And so when we really get it, it's actually clean data. So you can actually think of like an ATL type layer built-in to our connectivity, so that we sort of extract, load, transform, bring clean data in. That's sort of the simple way to think about it.

It will likely be limited to be fair, Chandra. In other words, we see so many of those old IGA platforms. They only got the 10% coverage of that customer's identity landscape. So we'll clean up the 10% we can bring in. I think it will create pull for them to go, oh, now I see what I'm lacking on the human side as I've leaned in on the agentic side, and we think that will pull them forward.

The biggest thing we are doing, like Mark said, the coverage today of the application base is like less than 10%. We have agentic tools, which will allow you to build connectors to both modern as well as legacy applications in like minutes. And so we have the ability to bring 100% of applications in coverage to our platform.

I think the only thing I would add is that the greatest tools in the world will not alleviate the customer from having clean data, right, and making sure their house is in order. We'll take all of that and we'll extract it and we'll consume it into our platform, but they've still got to do the lift of making sure their data is good.

Yes. For those of you who know the long SailPoint story, we started with a compliance product before we had a Lifecycle management product, and we would come alongside legacy Lifecycle products like IBM and Oracle and everybody else. And what would happen quite typically is we'd come in with the compliance product next to their old LCM product. And pretty quickly, the customers go, wow, I should get all of this onto your platform. And that was a very common motion for us in the late 2000s, early 2010s. So I think I see that same picture emerging.

We'll come in with this agentic when they're not quite ready supposedly to move forward off their old IGA platform, and they'll very quickly see, oh, I've got to get off this old platform very quickly if I want to get the full value, like Matt said, of clean data for my human.

And again, Chandra hit it pretty hard, but that real-time human control, part of what's going to happen in this agentic acceleration is people are going to look back to their human controls and realize this static once-a-year certification check of humans is ludicrous in today's world, right? It's like once a year, you validated your access rights in your company. And the other 364 days, what exactly was happening, right? I think we're going to quickly see this demand for real-time human governance. That will get pulled along by the agentic world, because they're going to see the delta.

Let's go here.

Rich Poland from Wells Fargo. I think just in terms of -- as we think about like the agentic side layering on, I feel like it's created a lot more visibility into the broader environment of just machines, API keys, all these things that weren't previously kind of under at least the purview of an identity contract prior. Does that kind of serve as maybe some of the initial pushing point and then the agentic layers on top of that? I guess what are you seeing now today? Is it machines first and more just true agentic or both?

Both, I think.

Yes. So there isn't really one progression, but here is a bit of a blueprint that's really emerging. It really starts with all these nonhuman identities, which are these credentials and tokens, because humans have been using them for a long time. They have been unmanaged. That's sort of step one.

Step 2 is we are seeing endpoint agents. The fastest growth we are seeing are all these endpoint. Think of all these coding agents, OpenClaw, NemoClaw those kind of tools, right?

That's -- then the third category are all these enterprise agents, which are being used to automate business processes. And that's really where it's Microsoft, AWS, Google, right? I would say then comes all of these application agents, right? It could be Salesforce and Sales, right? That's the way I would think about it.

That make sense. Both will pull that NHI world. I think to answer your question, right, I think both the movement of agentic, it will pull along with all the NHI infrastructure that enables that agent to do its job. And it's also exposing the lack of controls over those NHI tools in the human context pre-agent to your point. We just were not governing and securing those things well before. It's a little bit the same point. As we shine a light on this whole area, people go, oh, wow, I have huge exposure here. I didn't really understand. That's partly what's happening.

Go back.

Imtiaz Koujalgi from ROTH Capital. I had a question about the competitive landscape in the last -- there have been a lot of changes in the last few years. Okta launched an IGA product, CyberArk bought Zilla, Palo Alto acquired CyberArk in the last few quarters. And one of the questions that I get is, how has that impacted you guys because you're a pure IGA player. Everyone is a pure player, IAM and IGA were separately lanes, now looks like there's a lot of overlap between every vendor offering the whole platform. How has it impacted your business?

And then one of the question that I get a lot is, with Palo Alto buying CyberArk, they have a big installed base, almost 50,000 customers. I'm sure there's a healthy overlap between their installed base and your installed base. Are you seeing any impact? Are you seeing -- do you expect any impact? Because I think the genesis of the question was the net new logo adds last quarter, I think it was a little bit light. So are there early concerns from that acquisition?

I'll start and let the guys jump in. When people say, are you worried about Palo Alto, because they just entered the game with CyberArk, which bought Zilla, just so basically is clear on the heritage there. And Zilla was a very tiny IGA company, less than $10 million in ARR, never lost a deal to them ever. That's the state of the union at the time Palo bought -- CyberArk bought Zilla, okay? So we didn't see CyberArk as an IGA threat. So in that sense, we don't see Palo Alto as an IGA threat. And I'll just use IGA as a name for the moment that's -- I should say an adaptive identity threat to be more clear. They're a big player. They show up in a ton of accounts.

You know who's an even bigger player, Microsoft, who's been coming at us in this game for 4 years. And as we said to you over and over, Microsoft is effectively making no dent. I won't say no, I'll say minimal. Microsoft is making minimal dent today after being at it for years with a product far advanced over Zilla. So with all due respect, I don't think the team fully understands what they didn't get, when they bought CyberArk. They've got a great historical PAM tool. They did not get a tool that competes with SailPoint for our core.

And if you listen carefully to some of their dialogue, the head of the company will repeatedly say our tradition that with CyberArk, we are managing 3% to 5% of the identities in the digital enterprise. Now we just have to explain to the other 100. Simple. Simple to expand to the other 95% to 97% you weren't doing before. You can judge for yourself how simple you think that is. So we're respectful of large competitors. This company's whole existence has been competing with IBM, Oracle, Microsoft, we're good. We can take people on this turf and do just fine. And that's the state of the union. Same would be said about the oh company, who also talks about a rapidly expanding IGA business, as we say, still has not made a dent in our business of enterprise customers.

Mark can I just build on that one? To the contrary, I think what we are doing is really democratizing privilege. And so what we believe we have is really next-generation PAM, quite frankly. Because we think PAM -- look, PAM will have its role, which is if you're a database admin, sys admin, cloud admin, just doing session management, vaulting and all those things, what about the remaining 97% of roles? Like Mark isn't managed as a privileged identity inside our company.

Which hurts my feeling.

That's like -- none of us are, that's crazy, right? We have access to critical data. That's really what we mean, right? So we believe all these PAMs, historical traditional PAM RFPs will increasingly become addressable to us, because we are expanding what it means to be privileged. So we are going to go after that is what I'm saying.

Maybe -- I don't know, Brian, do you want to address the 15 customers this quarter?

Just to close off on that question. Don't really read too much into that customer count. That's a net number. And just some data points on that. Any customer that we "lost or churn" their average ARR was less than $100,000. So that's to Mark's earlier point. We do might have a long tail that simple, price-sensitive customers, they may not need a higher-level solution. So the average new SaaS customer that we gained was 3.5x size that number of less than $100,000. So we're good. We're playing right into our sweet spot.

I would just add, when you look at that IIQ install, right, you get into that long tail, and they're fairly small sub-100, like Brian said, they're probably -- I wish it was a better churn than laggards, right? But they're kind of -- they're slow to move, right? And so they're targeted by the Oktas and the smaller outfits. And when somebody can say, I can get all 3 pillars for less than what I'm paying and I'm not deployed. It just becomes an easier target. And that's what you saw when you got the net number here this last quarter. That was a result of that, some number of small sub-$100,000 deals that fell out. And when you look at conversely to the ones we brought in, what do we say 350?

350.

3.5x. So we're getting much bigger lands, and those are just the long tail.

We'll never fight the customer count war against some of these players. That's not the game we're playing.

This is Ethan from Piper. Can you just talk a little more about what Entro brings to like your nonhuman identity offering? And does this kind of fully round out the planned build? Or should we kind of expect to see maybe more inorganic or organic kind of functionality enhancements from here?

Yes. So they complement us quite well, right? So they are really -- what they do really well is on all these nonhuman -- like particularly credentials, right? And so imagine there are secrets and tokens and certificates and there are like 1,000 versions of it. That's why they cover more than 1,200 of these types. It complements what we have, right? So we have historically been world-class in discovering all of the machine agents and all that.

What we were not great at was really discovering the attached credentials within. So that is what we have acquired. And so now when we go discover an identity, we can actually codiscover all of the credentials that go with that identity seamlessly. That's what we're bringing together, right? So it's really the identity governance and the credential governance worlds are really -- or that's what we are doing. We are really bringing those to -- so that's why it's a very, very complementary asset to what we have.

And I think the other part of your question you asked was Ethan? Sorry, what you say? Ethan. I was trying to get Evan or Ethan out of my mouth, and I let me get it to work. Sorry. At the end of the day, you should continue -- boys, it's been a long day, isn't it? It's only halfway through. You should continue to look for Chandra and the team to -- as we're laying out this road map, continue to look for opportunities to accelerate our vision with these kinds of great technology businesses that just don't have a lot of market traction yet. We've done that with Savvy last year, others in the past. We see a lot of opportunities in today's landscape to accelerate our vision with some very specialized and very capable technologies, that will fold into our platform rapidly. And yes, you should continue to think we are looking around the landscape for those kinds of moves. You just want to pick the other part if I could see.

All right. I don't see any more hands. Any last questions? One more, two.

Two questions for you, Brian. One, can you maybe talk to us about your ownership structure, maybe some of the conversations you guys are having and what that looks like near term, longer term? And then just a follow-up question on onshore. What does that bring in terms of how much did you pay for it? Can you just share with us any metrics in terms of revenue contribution?

Sure. So the first question, obviously, we've had a long-standing relationship with Thoma Bravo. They own closely 85%, 86% of the company at this point. I think they don't have intentions of being long-term public company shareholders. I don't want to speak on their behalf, but that's not really their playbook. I think they're going to be thoughtful about kind of exit strategy. We can't get into specifics in terms of where that is and what price points that are. But it's an ongoing very professional dialogue we have with them. And then you said something about the revenue. I want to make sure I understood your question.

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The TB relationship? No. I'm sorry. Oh, Entro. I didn't hear you. How much revenue from [indiscernible]. I didn't hear you. Sorry I didn't hear it.

Can you help us with that?

So we are not -- that would be a new one. We're not getting into that today. We'll lay more that out in the future. This was primarily a technology acquisition and also a talent acquisition for us.

Just had a follow-up question on the new logo success. I believe I remember from the presentation you mentioned 2/3 of the new logo were from failed competitive deployments, right? So I know historically, it's been more about -- I mean, you have like broader access centric and not have enough of depth and entitlements, which is your strength. Just curious across that versus legacy IGA versus narrow PAM, like are these new logo sort of competitive makeup change in terms of like that 2/3 is a very, very kind of strong figure. So just curious in terms of the makeup of that.

I guess it's a combination of either -- I call it more recently failed deployments as in people that we've talked about today that are more active in the market today, Microsoft, Okta, Savvy. And then some of them would be "failed deployments of the older legacy players, Oracle, IBM, et cetera, failed in the sense that, again, the different game that we were playing a decade plus ago when they were more active was, let's go get the Sarbanes-Oxley apps under control, 5%, maybe 10% of the application landscape.

The game today, as you've heard Chandra talk about all day is we've got to cover every application environment, every identity. Customers are figuring out there's no chance, they're going to get battle legacy tool to that goal. And so that would be a "failed deployment story as well." I can't get where I need to get to with Oracle, IBM and quite a few of those are failed deployments of far more recent losses, I'll say that, deals we will lose. And within a year or 2 or 3, we'll be back in because that didn't go as planned. And so we're actually capturing both in that failed deployment stack. Because I'm pretty sure that's how we characterize that.

Yes. I mean I would just tell you, where we play, right, the larger enterprise, we're replacing somebody every time. And it could be an Oracle or it could be a CA or something like that where maybe they just got long in the tooth. And then to Mark's point, it could be that somebody mistakenly bought, I'm not going to call them, but one of those and somebody lost their job, and so then we got to come back in and redeploy it. There's some of that. But virtually everybody we talk to, we're moving off of something.

Very rarely an internal deployment in one of those really odd jobs.

Brian, I don't mean to get into modeling minutia, but I want to make sure the question is asked, right? So round numbers, we're going to be at $1.4 billion in ARR this year. Again, it's round numbers, right? $1.4 billion to $2.1 billion in '29, it's another $700 million from there, right? When this is all said and done, when we're sitting here in FY '29 and talking about the path, how do you think it would have looked, right? I mean, is this -- because right now, it's -- again, round numbers, $250 million of net new here, and then it's going to go to $350 million to $400 million in '28 and '29. So there's this hockey stick. Is that going to be very back-end loaded? Are we just going to beat '27 by so much that it's going to be linear between now and '29? Like do you get the spirit of the question?

So we reiterated our FY '27 guidance today, and we feel good about it. And we are laying out that $2.1 billion. That's an acceleration of growth between now and then. we're not going to get into the stair step of that linearity of the curve, but we feel really good about where we're going. I have a lot of multiple paths to get there for FY '29, and we feel really good about FY '27.

All right. You have to try.

All right. Well, I think that's probably a good place to end, full circle on the Q&A. So thank you, Saket. Thank you all really for being here today. Thanks for your interest. I think it's really obvious that we're excited about the future. We're excited about what's ahead. I hope you found today informative, and I look forward to staying updated with you along the journey. So thanks so much.

Thank you.

Thank you, everyone.

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the SailPoint's First Quarter 2027 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Scott Schmitz, SVP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's Fiscal First Quarter 2027 Financial Results. Joining me today are SailPoint's Founder and CEO, Mark McClain; and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills.

Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements, and because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially.

This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which exclude certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance. Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.

Additionally, please note that the development, release and timing of any features or functionality described for our products that are not currently available remain at our sole discretion on a when and if available basis. and may not be delivered at all or should not be relied in making purchasing or investing decisions.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We are off to a strong start in fiscal 2027, delivering another quarter of robust top and bottom line growth. We believe our results demonstrate that in the new era of agentic AI identity security is the most critical layer of the enterprise security stack and that SailPoint is the indispensable platform. This momentum validates our strategy and our leadership position. we've been building for this moment long before the market recognized it.

We are setting the standard with an intelligent end-to-end identity security platform designed to tackle today's hardest challenges including nonhuman identities and real-time governance. Traction across our new products, combined with our core platform is evidence our unified approach is with the modern enterprise demands. Brian will provide more details on the numbers shortly.

Our performance also underscores a fundamental truth about the modern enterprise. Identity security is no longer just a compliance check box, we believe it is a mission-critical mandate that has quickly become the central pillar of any credible AI strategy. AI and autonomous agents are becoming an invisible workforce optimizing supply chains, closing financial books and engaging customers. They are driving incredible productivity, but they are also creating an identity challenge of massive proportions.

Today, nonhuman identities and AI agents vastly outnumber human identities. For every human identity and enterprise meticulously governs, there can be 100 nonhuman identities or even more. We are beginning to see this shift clearly on our own platform. In Q1, nonhuman identities accounted for 40% of our identity growth and now represent 14% of all identities we manage in our cloud offering.

This rapid growth has created a critical new risk profile. These autonomous agents can make independent decisions, execute code and access highly sensitive data at machine speeds because they are often spun up outside of traditional IT purview, they can operate with excessive unmanaged privileges. Consequently, the blast radius of a compromised agent can be extensive. It is no surprise that unmanaged APIs are a key attack vector.

Legacy security models and siloed bot management tools are largely blind to this autonomous workforce. They were built for humans typing on keyboards, not for machine-to-machine decision-making. The central question for every enterprise leader is no longer if they will use AI, but how will they control it. You cannot control what you cannot govern.

To address this new identity crisis, enterprises cannot rely on the tools of the past. That's why last month, we introduced a true game changer the SailPoint Agentic Fabric. It's a paradigm shift and will be delivered directly through our core platform. We've designed it to provide the visibility and governance the Agenetic enterprise demands. This reflects our shift from static to real-time governance.

We're also delivering a dynamic universal privilege for rightsized access and uniting identity with the Security Operations Center or SOC for immediate threat management. Today's enterprises cannot manage AI agents in a vacuum to properly govern nonhuman identities, they must be tethered to a human owner. Our Agentic Fabric is designed to not only discover AI agents, but also place them into the exact context of your human workforce. Every AI agent will be assigned to an accountable human owner and that agent will not be able to alter its own ownership.

Identity without human accountability is merely visibility. By ensuring that the principle of least privilege is applied to agents just as rigorously as it is to human employees, SailPoint is setting a new standard. Furthermore, because a compromised agent operates at machine speed, manual intervention is obsolete.

Defense must be proactive and instant. We expect that Agentic Fabric will transform identity security from a static check into a real-time control plane, offering behavioral monitoring, prompt security and real-time authorization. Ultimately, we believe it will deliver on the core outcomes of our Adaptive Identity Strategy, achieving 0 trust by ensuring no identity is trusted by default and verifying everything in real time.

Agentic Fabric also represents a large incremental go-to-market opportunity for us. It was designed to work everywhere to secure a customer's entire Agentic footprint whether they are a cloud customer and on-premise IdentityIQ customer or even if they use a different platform for basic access management. Sitting above all the complexity across different clouds and infrastructure it is designed to provide a single unified layer of governance.

We believe this "work anywhere" architecture will be a powerful engine for growth. and will submit SailPoint as the identity control plane for the modern enterprise. And we are already capitalizing on this market shift, driven by accelerating demand across our AI and machine identity portfolio, our Agentic pipeline doubled in Q1.

Let me expand further on our differentiation and approach. As an identity security leader for more than 20 years, we believe we have an unparalleled understanding of what it takes to provide comprehensive identity solutions. We have architected a foundational end-to-end identity security platform to govern all identities, SailPoint Identity Security Cloud anchors our protection of human identities while our new Agentic Fabric extends that same rigor to Agentic governance. Together, they are designed to create a unified approach to managing every identity across an enterprise.

For many of our competitors, identity is a new business unit. For us, at SailPoint, identity is our identity. That is why we are winning. At our core, our differentiation is defined by uncompromising breadth and unyielding death. Breadth means we secure every identity from full-time employees and contractors to RPA bots, cloud resources and the new wave of autonomous AI agents. A core strength of our platform is the ability to extend this governance across the enterprise, securing not just modern cloud applications but the highly complex, disconnected and custom legacy systems that most other vendors simply cannot reach.

But breadth without depth only provides visibility, not security. Our key advantage is our depth, the ability to apply deep contextual governance to every identity. In our experience, most identity security tools stop at discovery. But discovery without ownership is just a list its visibility without accountability. SailPoint provides that critical link mapping every nonhuman identity to a human owner. We believe this profound depth of context makes us an indispensable identity platform for the enterprise. And this comprehensive value proposition is resonating in the market.

In Q1, we saw a greater than 50% ARR increase in customers that adopted our advanced nonhuman identity capabilities. This is a clear signal of customer demand. They are not just buying features they are buying control over their AI strategy. Let me give you 2 examples from this past quarter.

First, a highlight of the quarter was a significant competitive displacement at a major North American retailer. Following a disruptive cyber breach that cost the business tens of millions of dollars and amidst complex ERP integrations. The company realized a siloed approach to identity was a critical vulnerability, especially given their lack of visibility into machine and agent identities. Partnering with Deloitte, we proved our value, resulting in a 5-year commitment to centralized management of both their human and nonhuman identities on the SailPoint platform.

The second example is a platform modernization at a large insurance company, executing a cloud-first mandate to shut down their data centers and reduce tech debt they leveraged our modernization Flex program to migrate to our Identity Security Cloud. This added high-value security automation and an immediate ROI. This modernization also fundamentally strengthens their risk posture, which is increasingly essential to meet today's strict compliance and regulatory drivers.

We expect our competitive advantage to only amplify as these regulatory pressures intensify. Recent AI risk frameworks from the treasury and Mist combined with the legal mandates of the EU AI Act mark a critical turning point. They are forcing a shift away from theoretical discussions and toward a mandate for strict, auditable controls over nonhuman identities and their relationship to a human owner. The market is validating our leadership and the ecosystem is increasingly choosing SailPoint as a definitive governance platform.

We recently announced an integration that brings Anthoropic's Claude enterprise directly into SailPoint's governance framework. By managing both human users and Claude AI agents under one control plane we are working to eliminate the blind spot of shadow AI. Beyond Anthropic, SailPoint Agentic Fabric is architected to integrate natively with all 3 major hyperscalers with AWS, it is designed to govern both Amazon Bedrock and AWS IAM roles directly.

As we bring this to market, it will leverage SailPoint's extensive library of out-of-the-box connectors to govern agents across any environment from the latest cloud services to complex legacy applications. This reach allows us to automatically discover agent privileges within major SaaS platforms like Salesforce, while strictly dictating the data sets agents can query in platforms like Snowflake. Finally, to ensure immediate defense, our CrowdStrike integration is built to close the loop, triggering automated access remediation during live security events.

We are building this new era of Agentic security directly upon the strong foundation of our core platform, the same proven foundation that already unifies identity security and data intelligence for many of the world's largest organizations. By delivering a single, consistent identity security framework that spans human employees, cloud resources and autonomous AI agents, SailPoint empowers the enterprise to harness the power of AI with absolute confidence.

Our customers don't just secure AI, they secure their future. I look forward to unpacking more of this vision along with our financial framework at our Investor Day next week.

But with that, I'll turn the call over to Brian to discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail. Brian?

Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We are very pleased with our strong start to the year, delivering a first quarter with ARR, revenue and adjusted operating margin above the high end of guidance. We ended fiscal Q1 '27 with ARR of $1.163 billion an increase of 26% year-over-year, with SaaS ARR of $781 million, growing 36% year-over-year. Net new SaaS ARR was $35 million, up 5% as reported and over 30% on a constant currency basis. Overall, our first quarter results highlight the durability and consistency of our business model.

We saw continued strength across our core growth drivers, key metrics and margin profile. Let me provide a few examples. First, we continue to see balanced growth. Our top line is fueled by a healthy mix of new logos and strong expansion from our existing customers as they increasingly standardize on our platform. Second, deal sizes are expanding. We see customers making larger commitments driving our average ARR per customer up 18% year-over-year to over $350,000.

Third, our enterprise momentum remains strong. We ended Q1 with 225 customers generating over $1 million in ARR, representing a 32% increase year-over-year. And finally, we drove strong operating leverage, leading to approximately 330 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion year-over-year. Platform modernizations also remain a key catalyst. ARR from migration activity more than doubled year-over-year as enterprises continue to modernize with our Identity Security Cloud platform. This contributed to an increase in our SaaS mix, which accounted for 92% of net new ARR in the quarter compared to 69% in Q1 of last year.

A large part of what's fueling this migration success is the growing adoption of our Navigators flex pricing model. In Q1, approximately 1/3 of our migrations leveraged our modernization flex offering. This flexible structure is also proving highly effective in accelerating the attach rate of our new offerings. As a result, the ARR contribution from our emerging products more than doubled year-over-year, representing 20% of the net new ARR in Q1.

This growth is being driven by strong demand for our nonhuman identity solutions our nonemployee risk management offering and recent product introductions. We expect the launch of our new Agentic suites will continue to drive a growing mix of AI-related revenue. We look forward to sharing more details on our expectations at our Investor Day next week.

Looking at our overall financial performance for the fiscal first quarter. We delivered revenue of $280 million, an increase of 22% year-over-year, with SaaS revenue growing 35%. Dollar-based net revenue retention remained robust at 113%. Our adjusted operating margin in Q1 was 13.5%. We also continue to generate strong cash flow with $38 million of cash from operating activities and $33 million of free cash flow which represents an 11.6% free cash flow margin. We ended the quarter with $391 million of cash and cash equivalents.

Turning now to guidance. For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck where you can also find additional modeling notes. For the fiscal second quarter of 2027, we expect ARR to be $1.22 billion up 24% year-over-year. We expect revenue to be $310 million, an increase of 17% year-over-year with adjusted operating margin of 18.4%. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 571 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.07 to $0.08.

For fiscal year 2027, we are flowing through the Q1 upside in ARR, revenue and adjusted operating margin to our full year guidance. For ARR, this translates to an increase of $8 million to $1.369 billion, up 22% year-over-year. For revenue, we are raising our revenue guidance by $5 million to approximately $1.27 billion, an increase of 19% year-over-year. And we are raising our adjusted operating margin guidance by 50 basis points to 19%. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 580 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.32. We expect to generate approximately $200 million of free cash flow in fiscal year 2027.

Consistent with last quarter, our fiscal Q2 and full year 2027 guidance assumes 90% to 95% of net new ARR will come from SaaS as customers leverage the continuous innovation we are building into our cloud platform. As a reminder, as our SaaS mix increases, it may cause short-term fluctuations in our P&L. We firmly believe this shift towards SaaS is a long-term value driver for the business.

In summary, we believe our strong results, consistent growth at scale an innovative product road map position us extremely well for continued success in the AI-powered future. We remain committed to driving durable, profitable growth and we are optimistic about our ability to deliver long-term value to our shareholders. We look forward to updating you further at our Investor Day next week.

With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our President, to join us and open the call for questions. Operator?

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will be coming from the line of Rob Owens of Piper Sandler.

Mark, I want to drill down a little bit into your prepared remarks this morning and all the momentum we're seeing in Agentik.And it hasn't shown up in a lot of vendors results at this point. So first part of the question, 1 question, but obviously 2 parts. What are end customers doing right now? And to the extent that you're seeing all this momentum around your Agentic pipeline, I think you mentioned that it doubled in the first quarter and the new Agentic Fabric capability out, how should we think about how that plays out within this year? Because as Brian mentioned, you just flowed through the upside here. So when does this begin to impact results.

Sure. And thanks, Rob. Good to talk to you. Yes, look, I think in general, I'll flip the deeper answer to Matt in a second because he's much closer to what we're seeing out in the field and engagement. But I think in general, we punched up the messaging around AI at our Navigate Conference. We obviously launched the gentex fabric just last month. And we've been seeing a nice steady pipeline build that I would say has increased pretty notably as we said in our prepared remarks.

So it's not surprising to us that we haven't seen that show up heavily in results yet, but we do see a fairly significant momentum building. And so that's sort of why we guided where we did, landed where we did and are comfortable that we see additional benefit coming as customers are beginning to wrestle with it.

Let me flip that part of your question, Rob, to Matt about what customers seem to be engaging with us on the kind of questions they're asking the issues they're wrestling with.

Thanks, Mark. Rob, look, a couple of things I'll just share with you. If you look at our customer base, about 10% of our customers now have adopted AI. So we're kind of chipping away at that. If you look at our most recent quarter, about 40% of our new identities were nonhuman, right? So again, we're kind of making progress to that. And if you look at our total identities under management now, it's about 14% are nonhuman. So we're starting to make a lot of traction. I think our recent announcement here on May 11, really excited a lot of folks. And I'll share with you some of the things that the guys in our field are doing.

We've created these workshops and -- where we're actually going in and meeting with customers and prospects, to be fair, mainly customers. But what's interesting is these workshops, there are a couple of hours. And our field teams that bring a little bit of technical progress around AII sit down. And we actually get together the identity management folks, which is a no-brainer, but also we bring the AI team and the security team. And oftentimes, especially in some of these larger enterprises, we're actually doing an introduction for them, right? They haven't really met. And now we're really starting to get into solving some of these problems, bridging the AI and identity gap, forcing architecture clarity uncovering really critical vulnerabilities.

I mean some of the stories that we get are repeated, right, from company to company, but they were also eye-opening. And look, we're actually starting to see -- I don't want to say a dramatic acceleration of the sales cycle, but an acceleration. When companies start to understand this and understand some of the challenges, we're starting to get a lot of top of funnel traction. As Mark said, our pipeline is doubling every quarter since inception. And look, I think our perspective is that there's a ton of interest and I think you're going to start to see it move, but the question ultimately is when.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Brian Essex of JPMorgan.

Nice strong start to the year. Maybe, Matt, for you, I just wanted to see if you could give us an update on the SaaS conversions, particularly if you reflect back on when SailPoint was public before, and we heard a lot about identity being a bottleneck for transformation initiatives. Are you seeing the same thing with regard to AI? And how does that impact the pace of conversions and the backlog that you might have on that side?

Yes. Thanks, Brian. Look, I think there's a couple of things that are top of mind for a lot of the customers we talk with from an AI perspective. And one of them is just the year unknown of agents and the numbers, the nonhuman, I'll say, I think that continues to be how many do we need? I do think over the last couple of months, we kind of passed this inflection point of do I need it? I mean, are we going to use agents. I don't think we're getting that response from our customers or prospects anymore. I think everybody has kind of crossed over and said, "This is here, we're going to have to deal with it." And I think to that end, that's helped a bit.

But I do think that the cost issue and how am I going to deploy this is a big issue. And I think we try to solve some of that with our new pricing, right, to try to take away some of the inhibitions and blockers that may cause CFOs and operating executives a little bit of consternation.

Our next question will be coming from the line of Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley.

[indiscernible] of just kind of the price discovery that's happening just as you guys are kind of having customers have more agents within the mix. Is this where Flex is going to be most helpful? Or just kind of how adaptive do you feel like pricing around agency is going to get.

Yes. This is Matt. I'll jump in here and then Brian can jump in here and Mark. Look, we've released this new hybrid consumption pricing model. I was kind of referring to it here a few minutes ago. And it's all about flexibility and scalability. What we have found is, as I said, a big inhibitor in companies, it's leaning into this agentic adoption is the unknown NHI, nonhumans and the sheer cost of these agents.

And so I mean, really, here's the essence. We've started our new pricing around human identity licenses, right? And each 1 of these includes a baseline of nonhuman identities like agents or box at no extra charge up to a certain ratio. So as your usage grows, you can add capacity packs for whatever you truly need, whether that's more nonhuman identities, additional API calls, expanded workflows or longer data retention. So the cost of scale really is precisely with your actual use and gives you a predictable start and flexible growth.

As it relates to our flex pricing, I think the ones that you'll continue to see a ton of is really around our flex modernization. I think that helps really solve some of the economics of these migrations or modernizations as we like to call them, and it gets folks started. And really, it's really around this first year, right? So those are the kind of things that our modernization Flex solves. And our digital Flex, which really was prior to what we announced with SAF, right, the digital Flex probably transitions into SAF. So that you probably won't see as much of that.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies.

Brian, it was great to see SaaS or net new aero was up 5% reported but 30% constant currency. Can you just remind us of the FX dynamics, what was the constant currency total ARR growth in the quarter? And how you're thinking about that within the guide? Like what's the headwind to the full year guide that you've kind of laid out?

Sure. Joe, thanks for your question. Yes, I think we're pleased with the results. I think it's playing out as we expected. We did see 26% ARR growth. If you look at that on a comparison to even Q4, there was about a 1 point of an FX headwind in that number. So that was playing into it. But -- and also, we are coming off of net new ARR a challenging comp from last fiscal Q1. But if you normalize that for currency, we're up mid-single digits overall, but more importantly, for SaaS, where we saw 36% SaaS ARR growth the net new ARR for SaaS was up 5%, but for constant currency, it was up over 30%. In fact, it was 36%.

So I mean we're really leaning in towards the SaaS line of products for us. Our customer count grew 16% year-over-year. I mentioned 92% of our net new ARR with SaaS. We doubled our migration from SaaS ARR more than doubled year-over-year. As Matt said, the flex pricing models are also adding to that. So we're really pleased. And I think that in terms of the guide, it is what it is in terms of our expectations. We're still modeling that 90% to 95% net new ARR will come from SaaS, and we feel good about that.

Our next question will be coming from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays.

Mark, maybe for you. I thought the use of Flex in migrations was -- or modernizations was really interesting, particularly how it's pulling through more of your emerging product. So maybe the question here is, what emerging products are getting pulled through the most in those types of modernizations? And Brian, as part of that, how do you kind of think about that emerging ARR mix sort of trending this year or long term? How ever you want to think about it?

I guess I'll pick up the first part. Thanks, Saket. Yes, I think as we've done this announcement of the agent framework. What we're focused on there is making it easier to kind of consume anything and everything related to this agentic move that customers would want. That was kind of, as Matt said, what we initially tried to focus on with our digital flex pricing model. But increasingly, we're like people just sort of want a consolidated answer for their agent move, and that gives them one. And so some of the things that we were calling emerging products are, in fact, rolled into that for sure.

We've pointed out in the past that the bulk of the emerging product growth, the scale of it was coming and the speed of it was coming from those digital flex related products, what we were calling MIS and AIS, et cetera. And then I think as we look forward to the emerging products mix going forward, we do see tremendous pull for this Agentic framework. Now that's the pipeline build we've been talking about. So I think Brian can give you a sense of how that emerging product part of our overall ARR growth, we'll be looking as we go into the rest of the year.

Yes. I think what we really look at is in terms of our NRR growth, it's really quite balanced. A strong component of that is migrations and emerging products and we're still early stages when you look at the migration opportunity, right? We have about $350 million of on-prem ARR sitting there. And as we've talked about, we typically see a 2 to 3x multiplier upon time that we migrate them from on-prem to SaaS.

And then also contributing to that is the emerging products, and we're still early days, especially with things like Agentic. We're seeing that on a relative basis, one of the fastest contributors. But again, early stages and a lot of upsell opportunity and cross-sell opportunity to come.

But to your point, I think about 1/3 socket of those migrations this year did include some of those emerging products. So we're seeing that become a natural motion as people move from to the security cloud, they're coming along with some of these emerging products, typically, again, those related to Agentic.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Keith Bachman of BMO.

I wanted to ask about the state of readiness on the AI side. What I mean by that is a part of what customers are looking for in the identity platform is real-time dynamics in that there's been some behavioral issues when AI agents are deployed. And so has that been an inhibitor in terms of the total platform as 1 example. You've announced that your governance capability for agents is now real time do you think that helps unleash incremental interest?

And the second part of the question is, are there other things that need to be addressed as we look out over the balance of FY '27, that would help generate incremental interest in the AI platform? Or do you feel like you have what you need to generate sufficient demand because really what investors are kind of looking for going to Rob Owen's question is, it doesn't seem to be showing up in the numbers.

Yes, I'll start with that, Keith, and I'm sure the other guys may jump in. Like we said, I think we are seeing customers much more active in dialogue and evaluations, which is why we're talking about pipeline build. I did I think if you go back to our commentary late last year or even earlier this year, we were saying -- we were seeing this momentum building, but we did it would start to necessarily affect the numbers in the first half, and we'll see how next quarter -- this next coming up quarter shows up. But more likely, we see some of that momentum, we think, continue to build.

The strategic -- SailPoint Agentic framework SAF, that has generated, as Matt said, a kind of an inflection in activity in our field, like these workshops and these engagements we're having where bringing together the identity and security and AI team is kind of a new thing in many of these very big shops. And when you get them in the room together, they start to realize, again, all those sides of the elephant that old metaphor. And so I think as we see that building, we see that what we announced in the Agentic framework with some of that real-time capability being very critical.

But I'd say the other move you'll continue to hear us focus on is how important it is to increasingly have a real-time view of the human environment because in our minds, what we're seeing from customers is the great majority of the Agentic things they're doing are going to be very tied into the human world. And so we believe that the big moat we are going to have is we understand that human governance world and the security posture of access privileges better than anybody across that human environment.

And since most of the Agentic work that's coming is tied to that. We think that's going to be a pretty significant driver for people seeing us as a critical part of this solution because I think they're trying to realize you can't manage agents in some sort of isolation from the rest environment when those agents are generally acting on behalf of humans. You have to understand the human security posture to know how to apply that to the agents that are working on their behalf.

So when you ask me, we got all the pieces, we launched a lot of new tech in the context of the Agentic framework. We've got an Analyst Day coming up, and you can continue to assume that we will be bringing more things out that round out that strong Agentic story in the context of the human. That's a theme you're going to hear from SailPoint very strong this year. And I think it's going to be challenging for others who don't have our legacy "historical" let me not say legacy historical context of the human environment in terms of how well they can manage agents. That's probably the main things I'd say on that. Does that help, I hope.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore.

Maybe just to follow up with some of the prior questions. You call out 14% of the agents are now nonhuman, 40% growth in nonhuman identities year-over-year. Is there a way for you to quantify what that equates to in ARR or ACV. And then second, are you seeing customers willing to pay separately for discovery versus governance versus real-time enforcement. Maybe just kind of pinpoint a little bit more on what your customers are willing to pay for in terms of nonhuman identity monetization.

So just as a data point, 20% of our net new ARR came from our emerging products, of which a significant portion was AI generated. And again, this is still early days for us. I mean we're just on the launch of our SailPoint Agenetic Fabric. We've got new pricing models coming out. So really excited about the potential, and we're also seeing, as we mentioned, the pipeline doubling for AI quarter-over-quarter.

So I think that we are really well positioned heading into the rest of the year. We expect it to show up towards the latter half of the year. We're building very minimal into our guidance for the time being. So we would expect this to be of a net positive.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Gray Powell of BTIG, LLC.

Yes, I guess maybe a follow-up on some of the AI security offerings. So I'd really be interested, like how often is the buyer of your core identity product, the same persona that you're selling as an identity security into? Like is this a CSO motion? Is it a completely separate AI buying center? And then when you get into these discussions in more detail, who do you find yourself most frequently competing against for agent identity security?

Greg, this is Matt. A couple of things. Look, yes, the personas are changing. I think we've shared this in the past, we've kind of created an overlay sales group or that's -- I think of them as hybrids, right? They bring a much greater depth of knowledge, much like an SE but they do it in a way maybe you want from a sales rep, right? And if you look at these guys, they really get out of the traditional silo of selling up through the Identity Group into the CISO and CIO.

There's 2 other groups that we find that are pretty common now in these companies. One is AI and the other is the security groups. And the 3 of them together kind of drive this. Now what's interesting is, if you were to just go up the traditional silo up to do identity management, you're going to be missing out on a lot of opportunities. It appears that in a lot of these companies now, the budget in of itself is actually on the AI side of the house. So we've made a huge effort to work our way up there.

These workshops that I inserted you earlier, they all kind of start with that AI team. And through that, we pull in the traditional identity management and then security teams because I do believe it takes all 3 of them ultimately to be able to get through this. I think the contract still gets signed and come up through your traditional CIO rank and vial. But a lot of the budget money and a lot of the process will go through the AI team. So that's becoming a pretty common place.

As it relates to the competitive landscape, look, I don't know there's a lot of conversation around Palo Alto and Cyber Okta. To be fair, we still don't see them every day. We're running to a mono occasion, especially in the areas that we get into. I think probably more of the common conversations around some of the emerging players in the Agentic space. And I think the thing that's really interesting is everybody wants to know what they don't know. So discovery is a big thing and then the ability to actually see what you discover. And that's what a lot of these smaller emerging companies do, and they're pretty good at that.

The problem is, once they discover the problem and they tell you about the problem. They don't have any wherewithal to be able to help you solve the problem. And that's kind of where we come in. We'll discover it, we'll give you visibility to it, and then we'll give you the ability to take action on government, remediate it, if you need be, right? And so yes, we see those folks often, but we don't really lose too much when we start talking about all of the whole package relative to being able to discover and then actually do something about the problem.

And our next question will be coming from Shaul Eyal of TD Cowen.

So it appears as if the focus today seems to be driving more adoption. But over the next few years, what is the monetization framework. Should we expect revenue growth to be driven primarily by increasing numbers of nonhuman identities or broader platform adoption or just a shift towards more consumption-based pricing or maybe all of the above? Just trying to frame it.

Yes. No, look, I think we would tell you that you're going to see the vast majority of growth coming around the nonhuman. And then I think if you look at our pricing, we've identified what we call performance metrics, and there's about a half dozen of them that really have to do with what you're doing with these nonhumans. So like API calls, how many workflows you're using storage, how long -- if you're using our graph, not only the mandate you're putting there, but how long are you keeping it for? I think we call aggregations where it really talks about the complexity of your environment all of those things will be part of the consumption-based pricing going forward.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Todd Weller of Stephens.

Just, Brian, maybe a question for you. Could you talk about the outlook for the term piece of the business for the rest of the year? And if there's anything we should be thinking about on that front?

Yes. I think we're still seeing this play out as expected with the ongoing acceleration of SaaS over term. We would expect 90% to 95% of the net new ARR to be driven by SaaS. And again, that's a reflection of all the innovation that's going into the SaaS platform and the strong migrations that we're seeing showing up in the pipeline. So I would model it -- continue to model it that way. Again, as a reminder, as we go through that transition, does present a little bit of a headwind to revenue growth and also operating margins that we called out last quarter.

Our next question will be coming from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research.

Maybe just a follow-up to the last question. Is there any way you could help us understand what SaaS net new ARR is growing when you back out the benefit from this conversion story? And just maybe remind us what you guys are expecting as a contribution to SaaS ARR growth from conversions this year?

So we can talk about this in total ARR growth we typically say out of the net revenue retention of 113%, we're like low single digits when it comes to the impact of migration activity and that's been fairly consistent. It's one of the bigger contributors to the net revenue retention. And then with respect to your second question on the growth of migrations for the year and the contributor.

We're modeling internally. About 10% of our on-prem base would migrate towards SaaS. It could go up from here in terms of the ongoing opportunity that AI represents for us. But for now, we would expect it to be about 10%. And that's on top of the 15% we've migrated life to date.

Are you guys tracking ahead of that 10% today? Like how should we think about that in the quarter?

Pretty much right in line with that through Q1.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Matt [ Matt ] of RBC Capital Markets.

I guess for Mark or Matt, you talked about a strong demand environment. Obviously, AI is driving a lot of interest in SailPoint. I guess I'm wondering a lot of the other saver calls that we're having that focus is on [ methos ] and a lot of, I guess, concern questions about what that means for cyber spending. I guess you didn't bring it up in your script. So I imagine there's probably not much of an impact on your sales. But I'm curious, is there an element of that slowing down customer buying decision because they're just so concerned about the threat of methos.

Matt, it's Mark. I'll take that one. I was wondering if this might come up in some fashion, I had a really interesting conversation with 1 of the lead players in one of our key partners yesterday I think what we may see is an interesting kind of 2-part story there, right? What the initial release of ethos and the other products from open AI that are similar with the security tools that can find vulnerabilities has shifted a lot of focus to patch, right? We got to close all these gaps and close all these exposures in our code.

But I think we're going to see very shortly behind that. How those same kind of tools are going to get used to try to work identity-based compromise, not patch discovery, like how can a tool like a ethos be used by a bad actor to compromise identity and find their way into systems using some sort of credential compromise, let me just call it that, Matt.

And I think when we see that, and I think we will see that. I think it's going to draw even more attention to how much risk is associated with identity, not just bad code. There's clearly risk with bad code. We're seeing some of those stories come out where the tools are just -- the AI tools are discovering not great code that needs to be fixed or the bad actors can exploit it. We know that bad actors without AI have already gotten pretty good at exploiting identity of vulnerabilities. When you point these tools at those issues, I think we're going to see an escalation of that.

So I think the short answer, Matt, is we're not seeing it yet in our pipeline, I would say, directly. I think we'll see some identity compromises from these tools, and that I think we'll put more spotlight on that. In the short run, there is, I think, an increase in security budget focus, and it is, I think, largely focused on these vulnerabilities and patches. But I think right behind that, you're going to see how those same tools are used to exploit identity vulnerabilities, and that's, I think, going to continue to put some tailwind into our story.

Our next question will be coming from the line of Richard Poland of Wells Fargo.

I think we talked a lot about, I guess, the direct monetization opportunity around AI as well as some of the migration stuff. Is there any, I guess, conversations you're having with customers now that they're kind of like, hey, we really do need to modernize our overall identity stack. Maybe they didn't have IgA prior and now they need it. Anything like that, that you're kind of seeing as like some of the initial lift as these budgets open, just to kind of follow up on Matt's question.

I'll jump in and probably Matt will add to this one, Richard. I think what we find is part of the reason when we launched the Agentic fabric that we allowed that to be sold independently, not only into our IQ base, but even to some of our competitive legacy players like the IBMs and the Oracles of the world is. in a great world, in our minds, customers would get all their human identity all showed up and fixed and then they would move forward to Agentic.

There is so much concern about the Agentic world. We wanted to say, if you want to get an initial foothold going there, we'll help you do that with the Agentic framework. But again, we're going to stand by our point of view that your ability to manage Agentic really well will be hampered unless you also have great controls over the human side. So what we may find is people leading from either competitive products or even our own IQ products into the Agentic Fabric first. But in most cases, we would like to see people get down the path with a very strong, robust human management that then extends into these agents, which, again, in our minds, are primarily tied to humans in their activity this year and into the future.

So that's the path we'd like to see them take. That's the path we think is most beneficial. But because of this market pull for this concern around genetic, we needed to make sure that offering was available to anybody no matter what their legacy IGA position.

And Richard, I would just add, look, I think you're spot on most customers and prospects we talk to, they have this mindset that they got to solve a Agentic and they have a of problems, and then they go directly to. But look, I've got other problems, right? I mean you look at our surveys, there's a ton of customers, most of them like 60% are in the early stages of their IgA deployment, if you can believe that. And so when you look at what we have built in our next generation, our Agentic business an Agentic business plus.

We're extending our single enterprise platform to govern every human and every nonhuman identity under one consistent policy framework eliminates all these identity silos. Organizations can apply uniform compliance, auditing and risk management across their entire workforce. So you're getting a hybrid solution that handles your traditional governance right, and gives you a pathway to be able to move into the Agentic world. So that's certainly top of mind for us.

Yes, we think folks are going to adopt -- as Matt said, one of these new kind of start-up Agenetic tools and try to say, marry that with an old IBM deployment, they're going to run into all kinds of issues very quickly and trying to get a single comprehensive view of their identity risk across that landscape. So we'll see some of that activity. I think still in the market where people are buzzing about Agenetic and they need to go grab some tool and there's some "sexy tools" coming out of the startup of Silicon Valley world, but I think it's going to become very part very quickly.

You can't manage that in isolation. And if you don't have a strong human identity framework to tie it to, you're going to have issues. So we're watching some of that unfold and we'll keep folks in mind who have made that earlier choice of a start-up tool and see how that's going in the 6-month period.

And our next question will be coming from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor Fitzgerald.

I'd just like to dig a bit more into digital identity Flex. And just what are you learning about customer adoption patterns. Are customers consuming more machine identity capacity or agent identity capacity today? Or is it a mix?

Yes. Look, I do believe there's this -- in virtually every customer and prospect we talk to this process of figuring it out or discovery, right, understanding what we have. We've got a number of tools now that you actually go out and they'll tell you from a take Shadow AI for instance, what everybody in your company is using, what data they're using, and that in of itself kind of becomes a big opportunity builder because most don't have that kind of data. And we've said, I think, as others have, you can't govern and manage what you can't see. So that's a big part of the process in building out this comfort level, if you will, for people who are interested in solving the problem.

Yes. And Jonathan the only thing I'd add to Matt's point there is the all non-genetic part of nonhuman that's clear, right? In other words, there's all these machines and service accounts and bots and all that so there's already risk associated with that, that people, I think, are attuned to. What we believe is as Agentic starts to really take off, there's a huge tie to those kinds of capabilities in the Agenetic world, meaning agents are going to be leveraging service accounts and other technologies to do their work to access data.

And so not only is there a big unsolved problem today in pure nonhuman pre agent, if you will, but that problem with all the other types of nonhuman is going to get much more difficult in the context of an exploding agent usage because all those agents are leveraging all those other nonhuman types of technologies to do their work. So it's both an existing unsolved problem, pre agent, if you will. And now it's going to get escalated as agents leverage all those other nonhuman identities to do their work.

And our next question will come from the line of Gabriela Borges of Goldman Sachs.

I think the [indiscernible] to Matt, there is some really interesting commentary about [indiscernible] steel teams to customers, a combination of AI experts, security experts, architecture experts. My question for you is, how much are you noticing heterogeneity versus margin and how customers are approaching the end take problem, meaning are you finding that customers are looking at -- because they're looking at all kinds of different ways to solve the Agentic problem, they end up having to maybe customize some of the SailPoint offerings and you need to probably solve with them more because every customer is sort of a unique animal. Maybe just talk a little bit about whether you're seeing consensus on different types of Agentic strategies and whether it still feels like the wallet there.

I'll jump in and let Matt add to that, Gabriel. Look, I think what we're seeing is in the type of large complex enterprises we have traditionally excelled at serving. They are going to have a plethora of different types of agents. They're going to have the vended agents from all of the big names you'd expect the service now the sales forces, the workdays, et cetera. And they're going to have a lot of bespoke agents that they're developing internally uniquely for their environments and therefore -- and they're going to develop some in their AWS environments. And they probably already have other hyperscaler environments like Azure in their environment.

These big shops are almost never homogenous in any way, shape or form about technology. And that complexity, that heterogeneity is why a platform like our Agentic Fabric is so attractive to them because it says we can give you a single comprehensive view of all of that agent world, no matter where it's come from, whether it's come from vendors or your own development across various different environments, that's what they're attracted to, what they're actually focused on varies customer to customer, frankly.

And you're right, it is the classic enterprise challenge of every customer is kind of a snowflake, not to confuse it with the company's not like. It's just a unique configuration of technologies in every one of these shops, and that's why a kind of cross-platform we'll handle whatever you've got. And as we -- Matt and I've been saying in the context of your human identities is such a unique value prop to these customer thinks, why they're pretty excited about engaging in these workshops and trying to understand how to solve the problem comprehensively.

I would just add, if you listen to [indiscernible] tell you that our platform really is that aggregation point of all things context-wise from an identity perspective. So we talk about bring your own end points, bring your own discovery we'll take all that in, as Mark said, because there is a huge amount of diversity in each of these -- you get into some of these larger enterprises, right? So I mean that's our objective to become that gathering point for all of this type of context and bringing it together in the form of identity.

And we do have time for one more question. Our last question will be coming from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Truist.

Great. As the number of agents proliferate in an enterprise, there's this concern that's going to potentially reduce the number of human seats. So are you seeing any pressure on seat expansion or consolidation within your installed base or seeing any increase in seat-based pricing scrutiny and optimization efforts across the enterprises?

Yes. This is Matt. look, I think there's always talk, right? And there's -- just based on all the headlines and all the media, there's always talk about seat compression. I don't know that we've seen much. I think the thing you have to remember is that -- when you think about all the different contracts that are out here in these companies, they're all seat-based, right? And a little procurement people -- everybody, that's their point of where they recognize how this thing all work.

So I think the seat-based pricing is going to continue to be around. I don't necessarily think it's going to fall off the chart here anytime soon. It's kind of what we've used as an anchor. I think a lot of others are kind of going down that path. But to your point, I don't -- we haven't really seen a big reduction in seats or humans at this point.

And the opportunity coming from the nonhuman is far outweigh the kind of deceleration we would see in the human identities.

And I would now like to turn the call back to Mark for closing comments.

Well, thank you, everyone. Appreciate you joining the call today. I think if we'd leave you with a closing thought. It's that we are still in the very early innings of this Agentic revolution, particularly how companies think about the security aspect of it. And we've got a good, healthy growing business, especially with a little bit of that FX effect almost kind of down the fairway of where we've been really in many respects.

But we're signaling as clearly as we can, that we see significant momentum building. And to the question many of you have asked, we do think that will start showing up in the numbers. We are excited for that potential. And we'll try to reflect that as appropriate in future guidance as it makes sense.

But for now, we feel very good about our position competitively and how customers are reacting to the story. So we'll keep you posted as things continue to evolve. But thanks again.

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's Fourth Quarter Fiscal and Full Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]

I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2026 financial results. Joining me today are SailPoint's Founder and CEO, Mark McClain; and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills.

Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements, and because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations, objections, they are not guarantees of future performance and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially. This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which excludes certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance.

Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations of such financial measures to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We just completed fiscal year 2026 with outstanding results that underscore our ability to deliver growth at scale. This has been a remarkable year for SailPoint as we continue to perform at an exceptionally high level. Our performance puts us at a level that we believe few companies in software and cybersecurity can claim.

To back that up, let's look at the key metrics for fiscal year 2026. We crossed the $1 billion ARR threshold. We delivered 28% overall ARR growth and a consistently strong 38% SaaS ARR growth. These are incredible results. To put this in perspective, our ARR growth of 28% year-over-year, plus our adjusted operating margin of 18% gives us a rule of 46. This places us in a rare stratum of high-performing companies at greater than $1 billion in scale.

Our journey to this point is the result of relentless innovation and unwavering execution. These efforts have enabled us to effectively meet the increasing demand for modern, adaptive identity solutions. The combination of visionary product development and operational excellence has positioned SailPoint as a leader in the market, driving our continued success and instilling confidence in our ability to deliver value to our customers well into the future.

This past year was also defined by a rapid pace of product advancement. We believe we pushed our industry forward, making identity security more adaptive, more real time and more integrated within security operations. At a time when organizations are being pressure tested due to the extraordinary rise of agentic AI, we believe we are delivering the modern security foundation they need.

Our 38% year-over-year SaaS ARR growth is a powerful indicator of both new and existing customers actively choosing to modernize with SailPoint. Our SaaS customer count grew by 16% year-over-year and our ARR per SaaS customer accelerated to 19% year-over-year growth in fiscal '26. Our recently introduced flexible pricing model and new AI-fueled innovations are turning customer interest into tangible growth and reinforcing the clear momentum in our SaaS business.

The second piece of context for our performance is the topic at the top of everyone's mind: AI. Now there is a very active debate happening in the market right now about what AI means for the future of software. I want to address this head on because from our perspective, the answer is clear. The more autonomous and agentic software becomes, the more essential enterprise identity security becomes.

This isn't just about human users anymore. We are experiencing an era defined by an expansive nonhuman workforce. Armies of AI agents are being built by business users operating at machine speed and creating an explosion of identities and access points that legacy static security models simply cannot handle. But while the scale of this agenetic workforce is new, the core challenge of securing nonhuman identities is not new to us. We have been governing service accounts, bots and other machine identities for years.

For us, securing this new army of AI agents isn't a reactive pivot but a natural evolution for a platform architected for this very complexity. In this new world, you cannot secure what you cannot see and you cannot govern what you cannot define. The fundamental question of who or, now, what has access to what doesn't go away. It becomes exponentially more critical and complex. For SailPoint, this isn't a disruption to be managed. We believe it is the single greatest market expansion driver we have ever seen, and that solidifies our position as a foundational security control plane for the modern AI-powered enterprise because now enterprise security is identity secured.

And we believe no one is better positioned than SailPoint to help customers navigate into this new world. That is why we believe SailPoint is a significant beneficiary of the AI revolution. Our confidence rests on four deep compounding advantages that we believe are unique to us. First, experience. We have spent 2 decades exclusively focused on solving the most complex identity challenges for many of the world's largest organizations. It's a deeply vertical and horizontal challenge that cannot be solved by general purpose AI alone.

Second, data and context. Our experience has allowed us to build a strategic moat through our use of data and context to deliver unparalleled precision and intelligence. Third, ecosystem. We are the control plane for enterprise security, deeply woven into our customers' operations with thousands of entitlement level integrations. New AI agents don't replace this. They must plug into it, making our platform the essential foundation.

And finally, all of this culminates in our most valuable asset, trust. Many of the world's most complex organizations choose us because we are proven and battle tested. This trust is our currency in a market that cannot afford to risk its enterprise on unproven technology. We believe AI, coupled with our extensive domain knowledge built over decades, will prove itself a true game changer in the coming years.

Today, our solution for solving the AI identity challenge integrates AIS, MIS and DAS solutions with more capabilities coming. We package these for easier adoption as part of our Digital Identity Flex pricing package. This approach is rooted in our long-standing philosophy of securing every identity, not just counting seats. It aligns our business model directly with the explosion of both human and nonhuman identities, helping to ensure we grow and benefit as our customers' agentic workforce expands.

Therefore, when you think about our role and AI beneficiary, it's critical that you look beyond a single product line. The right mental picture is to see how the vast majority of our portfolio is built with AI to secure the AI movement. From our extensive connectivity framework to our entire AI-enabled platform, we believe that all that we've developed has prepared us to be the guardrails for the agentic future. We believe we are built for this new world.

And our customers are validating this strategy with their investments. In total, we closed more than 500 transactions directly tied to our new innovations. In Q4 alone, our AI solutions have seen remarkably fast uptake with numerous Fortune 1000 companies among the early customers. In fact, nonhuman identities accounted for approximately 25% of our SaaS identity growth in Q4 and now represents 11% of our SaaS identities under governance. In parallel, our Navigator select pricing model also continues to gain traction, helping to accelerate adoption of our new offerings.

And finally, let me share two examples from the quarter around how our customers are adopting our latest innovations to tackle these emerging identity challenges. First, take the example of a global semiconductor leader. As they undertake a massive modernization initiative to reduce technical debt, they face a critical challenge: securing their highly automated environments.

They chose SailPoint to govern their explosion of AI agents, service accounts and machine identities at scale. In addition to modernization as a main driver, their decision hinged on a desire to innovate at full speed, knowing that every identity, human and nonhuman, is secure and under control.

And second, a major technology infrastructure provider chose SailPoint's Agent and Machine Identity Security solutions to meet a mandate centered around preventing over permitted access between human users and AI agents while enhancing compliance with regulatory requirements, such as SOX and GDPR. These proof points support our belief that our strategic advantage is real.

So now let's pivot to how we plan to capitalize on this momentum and convert our unique position into even greater scale. Looking ahead, we expect FY '27 will be the year of AI adoption. This is a reality being shaped by a market that is rapidly evolving and a platform built for this exact moment. For us, this isn't a single motion but a two-pronged engine for durable growth.

First, we plan to deepen our footprint within our existing customer base. As customers accelerate their shift to SaaS and confront the explosion of AI identities, we believe we are the right partner to help them navigate this shift. Our adoption of a flex pricing model and our AI-powered platform are designed to help our customers expand their programs and modernize with us.

Second, we believe our platform's power and clarity of vision make us more attractive to new customers than ever before. We are seeing increasing demand from organizations that want to build their security program on the right foundation from day one. The same advantages that make us essential to many of the world's largest companies are creating a clear opportunity for SailPoint in the era of AI.

Our ability to drive both of these motions is enabled by our platform's true moat: our governance foundation. In a world of AI agents operating at machine speed, static periodic governance is no longer sufficient. We are defining the new standard of adaptive identity, a standard that ultimately drives towards real-time governance. For us, that means enabling two critical states: least privilege access and, wherever possible, zero standing privilege. This is made possible by our differentiated ability to link users, machines, agents, applications and pieces of data in a single correlated data model.

And the power of that foundation creates what we call identity context. This comes to life in two critical dimensions: visibility and intelligence. We provide the visibility to extend the governance across the entire universe of identities, confronting application sprawl and securing every entitlement. We've recently extended this visibility to help customers explore the depth of AI usage across their enterprise with our just announced SailPoint Shadow AI Remediation solution.

But visibility is just noise without context. That's why we also deliver the deep intelligence to understand the meaning behind that access, moving beyond who has access to answer what they can do, when and at what risk level. This identity context combination of visibility and deep intelligence is our most significant advantage. It's what enables our customers to move from simply asking who has access to confidently being able to answer whether that access is appropriate, safe and being used correctly right now.

Competitors may offer a fraction of one or the other. We deliver both with the granularity and depth that have always been the hallmark of SailPoint. This is such an exciting moment for the company. We believe we have the right strategy, the platform and the team to continue defining the market through our leadership for years to come.

Now to walk you through the financial details of this outstanding year, I'll hand it over to Brian, our CFO.

Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We finished the year with a great fourth quarter, bringing our annual recurring revenue to $1.125 billion. This represents 28% year-over-year growth, a rate we have consistently maintained for the past 3 quarters, underscoring the strong and sustained demand for our identity secure platform at scale. This growth rate is more than 500 basis points better than our initial FY '26 ARR guidance.

Our SaaS ARR continues to be a powerful growth engine, delivering ARR of $746 million, an increase of 38% year-over-year and accounting for 90% of our net new ARR for fiscal Q4. This strong performance is a testament to our SaaS-first strategy and growth in our emerging products. In fact, net new ARR from our emerging products more than doubled quarter-over-quarter, accounting for approximately 17% of our net new ARR in fiscal Q4.

And what's even more impressive is that the total ARR from existing customers who adopted for our AI identity solutions, which includes AIS, MIS and DIS or DAS, expanded by more than 50% year-over-year. We believe this is an excellent leading indicator of our future growth, demonstrating that as customers prioritize a comprehensive identity security strategy, they are turning to SailPoint for innovation.

As a result, we're seeing customers commit to larger deals to secure their environment. This past fiscal year, our average ARR per SaaS customer grew to over $380,000. That's an increase of 19% from last year and more than double what it was 4 years ago. We closed the fiscal year with 215 customers exceeding $1 million in ARR. That's a 34% increase from the previous year and a clear indicator of our success in both landing large new enterprise customers and expanding our relationships with existing ones.

Our customers are increasingly choosing to modernize by migrating from our on-premise IdentityIQ solution to our Identity Security Cloud, or ISC. They are making the strategic move to leverage the continuous innovation we are building into our cloud platform. This trend is not only growing but also broadening. Initially, it was primarily our perpetual license customers moving to SaaS. Now we are engaging in more of these strategic conversations with our term license customers as well.

This expanded migration trend represents a significant opportunity for growth. Our existing perpetual and term license customers combined represent approximately $350 million in ARR. With a typical 2 to 3x uplift upon migration, this translates into an opportunity approaching $1 billion. We view this as a dormant growth tailwind and confirmation that the market is moving toward our strategic vision. It reinforces the incredible momentum we see in our SaaS business and a significant interest from customers ready to modernize their identity programs.

Importantly, our gross retention has remained strong and steady at 97% this year. We believe this speaks volumes about the value our platform provides and the trust we've earned from our customers in addition to representing an exciting path to ARR expansion. In the fourth quarter, our net revenue retention remained strong at 113%.

Looking at our overall financial performance for the fiscal fourth quarter. We delivered revenue of $295 million, an increase of 23% year-over-year, with SaaS revenue growing 37%. Our adjusted operating margin in Q4 was 20.6%, an expansion of 160 basis points year-over-year. We also continued to generate strong cash flow with $64 million of cash from operating activities and $57 million of free cash flow, which represents a 19.5% free cash flow margin.

For our fiscal year 2026, we delivered revenue of $1.071 billion, an increase of 24% year-over-year with SaaS revenue growing 35%. Our adjusted operating margin for the year was 18.1%, an increase of 270 basis points.

Turning now to guidance. For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck, where you can also find additional modeling notes.

For the fiscal first quarter of 2027, we expect ARR to be $1.155 billion, up 25% year-over-year. We expect revenue to be $275 million, an increase of 19% year-over-year with adjusted operating margin of 11.1%. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 568 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.04 to $0.05.

For our fiscal year 2027, we expect ARR to be $1.361 billion, up 21% year-over-year. We expect revenue to be approximately $1.265 billion, an increase of 18% year-over-year with adjusted operating margin of 18.5%. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 580 million shares and adjusted EPS to be $0.32. We expect to generate approximately $200 million of free cash flow in fiscal year 2027.

Our guidance assumes a continued shift towards our cloud platform with 90% to 95% of net new ARR coming from SaaS in FY '27. If we assumed no change in SaaS mix relative to FY '26, our guidance for revenue growth would be approximately 300 basis points higher and our adjusted operating margin would be approximately 200 basis points higher. We believe making a more conservative assumption with our term forecast is the right approach given the increased interest in our SaaS solutions.

In summary, we believe our strong results, consistent growth at scale and innovative product road map position us well for continued success in the AI-powered future. We remain committed to driving durable, profitable growth, and we are optimistic about our ability to deliver long-term value to our shareholders.

With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our President, to join us and open the call for questions. Operator?

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays.

Brian, maybe for you. I'd love to jump right into the ARR guide here for fiscal '27. I think the moving parts in the revenue guide make a ton of sense just given the strength you're seeing in SaaS and what that means for rev rec on term. But from an ARR perspective, can you just talk about how you're thinking about the on-prem component next year in terms of churn versus conversion? And zooming out, whether the guided philosophy on ARR is different going into fiscal '27 versus fiscal '26.

Okay. Saket, thanks for your question. First of all, we feel like this is the appropriate place to start the year for our initial guidance, start the year out. We obviously have strong momentum heading into the year. We've demonstrated 28% ARR growth for the past 3 quarters in a row. We're doing this at scale, well above $1 billion at this point, with 38% SaaS ARR growth. So I think we're demonstrating healthy demand. We have a strong pipeline. We've demonstrated strong and steady gross retention at 97%, which is a great place to be.

And I think the innovation is really driving customers towards SaaS, both new customers and existing customers. We do have a very strong migration pipeline. As I mentioned on the script or call, we have a $350 million opportunity. That's broken down between about $210 million of term with the remainder of $140 million coming from perpetual maintenance. I think we said in the past, we typically see a 2 to 3x multiplier on that at the time of migration, and then it grows with emerging products and other add-on and cross-sell opportunities.

There's really no fundamental change in our business. There's no change in the competition or win rates. We feel like we're simply taking a prudent approach to start the year. We feel good about this. We feel it's the right place to start, and we'll take it from there.

Our next question comes from the line Matt Hedberg of RBC.

You guys launched Navigators recently, and it really does feel like that's going to help customers think through even the longer-term usage of SailPoint, whether it's humans or nonhuman identities. And so I guess I'm curious, kind of initial reaction to that. And when we think about AIS' impact to fiscal '27, how have you thought about the impact of that, I guess, Brian, from kind of that initial guide?

You take the pricing. Matt, look, I think like any of these new pricing model, it takes a bit to get them going. It showed up big in our fourth quarter. I think we'll talk about this later, but the migration, it was a strong migration quarter. And our flex modernization was pretty significant in driving a lot of that. And just to remind you what that is, it's kind of taking the economics of having two sets of IP via SaaS and the perpetual, right, and running it into a single economic stream. So it makes it much, much easier for these customers to get going.

And quite frankly, it's always year 1, right, year 1, maybe year 1.5 that they try to get through from an economic perspective. And this flex premier modernization has been instrumental in helping us really get through that in accelerating our migrations.

And Matt, I'll take the other one just in terms of the AI identity solutions. So I think I mentioned on the call, about 17% of our net new ARR came from what we call emerging products. And a good portion of that, significant portion comes from the AI identity solution that includes AIS, MIS and also DIS or DAS, data access security. We're actually -- to start the year, we're factoring in [ workflow ] into our [ initiative ]. We expect that to ramp throughout the year as we go along.

Our next question comes from the line of Rob Owens of Piper Sandler.

I want to build on Saket's question a little bit. And Mark, I appreciate your commentary around this being the single greatest market expansion driver you've ever seen. But if we look at fiscal '26, we saw moderating ARR beats throughout the year. And then if we look at the initial guide for ARR, it's not really showing durable growth. So maybe help us understand just how this year played out relative to your expectations. And then as you look forward in the coming fiscal year, just what's in the guide for AI and agentic in that potential inflection? Or have you discounted all of that out of the guide?

Rob, it's Brian here. I'll start, and I think Mark might add some color commentary on this. So I think we've been able to demonstrate very consistent growth throughout the year. So we feel good about doing this in a very balanced manner. So it's a balanced growth in terms of half of that came from new customers and half came from existing. So we view that as durability going out to the future. And certainly, there's going to be an inflection point with a lot of the emerging identity types on the nonhuman identity side. When that inflection point happens, we can't pinpoint precision with that. But we do know it's going to happen. We're factoring very little into the initial guide, but we do think it's going to build over time.

So we feel like this is the right place to start the year. I think we've been able to demonstrate an outperformance as the year went along in FY '26. Hopefully, we can continue that in FY '27. But we simply want to be prudent with the starting point and then build from there.

Rob, thanks again for the question. Yes, look, you've got a strong time. We're not kind of prone to overhyping things. And I think when we talk about this being a significant TAM expansion, it's because of the momentum we see building with these large strategic customers where we spend a great majority of our time. And obviously, as Brian says, we see some ramp coming from the customers as they get into "the year of deployment". We talked a lot about how last year was a lot of, I don't know if I'd call it experimentation, but a lot of flying out various parts of the agentic and AI world in the mid- to large customers. And now people seem to be ready to move into more production.

So they are talking to us very actively about how they need to secure this agentic environment, and so that's the kind of demand curve we see building. But again, it's just prudent in our minds is not to kind of build that into an initial commitment to The Street here. But we see it coming. And we don't think anybody actually in the market doubts that, honestly, Rob, I think what everybody is questioning is who's going to be the winners. And our contention continues to be to manage this well, you have to have the things that are kind of unique to our traditional value, which is a breadth of understanding of all the identities in the landscape and the depth of the detailed entitlements and data those identities can access. And that just gets more complex and much more real time in this emerging world of agentic.

And we just feel like we are very well positioned to capture that opportunity and our customers and prospects, and Matt will probably pick this up later in the conversation, maybe, but that's what we're hearing from them. And we're seeing that interest and they're talking to lots of vendors, obviously. They seem to be very pleased with what we're describing as where we're headed here and what we are delivering. We've been out in the market for a few months, in many cases, where people are now just making announcements with future delivery dates. So I would kind of highlight that.

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Essex of JPMorgan.

Maybe, Brian, I know we're going to get a lot of questions on this today, so I just wanted to put a finer point on the ARR guidance and maybe from the perspective of what you saw this year versus what you're contemplating for next year. I think if I look at what you delivered this year, $248 million of net new ARR growing 27%, which was phenomenal, gross retention rates are best in class. So we don't really -- it seems as though you don't have to worry about filling a leaky bucket. But the top end of your guide implies maybe $241 million net new ARR. So I just want to understand from what you were able to deliver this year, from a sales productivity perspective, how should we think about the levers that you have in place and the assumptions with the guidance next year just so you can get a sense of the level of conservatism and how much effort from sales productivity and investment in sales and marketing is required to kind of like exceed that expectation?

Sure. Thanks, Brian. So I think we've demonstrated that durability and the growth profile and I think that's what gives us a lot of confidence going into this year. Again, we feel like this is the right starting point. We hope to build from there as the year goes along. But we still see a lot of opportunity both in new logo acquisition. We still see a lot of opportunity in what we call our target account list. We're about 15% penetrated. That's a 15,000 named account list that we continue to go after, lots of white space there. We are landing larger deals. We're up about 20% on average for ARR per customer for the past 2 years. Once we land them, we keep them. We have a 97% gross retention rate and then we expand with them consistently in that 113% to 115% range throughout the year.

And we still feel like it's early in terms of the emerging products and cross-sell opportunities that we're seeing, not only the explosion of identity growth, especially nonhuman identities. And again, we started seeing contributions right away from the emerging modules, which contributed 17% of our net new ARR growth. And then let's not forget about the migration opportunity. So we have about a $350 million opportunity. That means only about 15% of our on-prem ARR have been penetrated. We still have $350 million to go.

You start doing a 2x to 3x multiple on that at the time of migration, and then it grows from there over the next several years, I think we look out into FY '27 and beyond and we have a lot of tailwinds in our favor, a lot of opportunity, again, from new logos and also expansion within our existing customer base.

Our next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley.

Great. Wanted to ask a question. The 50% uplift in ARR from those adding the new modules, that was particularly interesting. I guess I just wanted to get a sense, is that kind of what we would expect as the normal uplift? Or they might have just adopted 1 of the 3 products, and so that's not kind of a fair necessarily kind of total uplift potential calculation, if that makes sense.

Meta, it's Brian here. I would say it's still early days. We're very pleased with the early traction and early success that we're seeing. And hopefully, that's a leading indicator of what's to come in FY '27 and beyond. But I think it's resonating with customers. I mean, these emerging products, many of which were just unveiled over the last 6 months, are starting to take hold. And more importantly, I think they're showing up in customer conversations and funnel and pipeline opportunities.

Our next question comes from the line of Keith Bachman of BMO.

Sorry to go back to the guide for a second, but I wanted to -- what is compressing? If I think about the formula, you've been growing ARR, as you mentioned, 28%. And you're getting about half, 114 net retention rate. So if you think about the guide, 21%, and all the attributes that go with it, is the assumption that the net retention rate will continue to compress and/or new logos will slow? Because all the characterization that you've given about the on-premise migration, potential new products, I'm just a little bit surprised about the implied rate of deceleration even if we assume some conservatism. So is it a slowing of the retention rate or new logos or both? Any color you could give there would be appreciated.

Keith, it's Brian, and I'll take that. Again, we feel this is the right place to start. There is no fundamental change in the business. There's no change in competition or win rates. We're simply taking a conservative approach to start the year. We feel good about this. I would say that we are leaning more towards SaaS and term migrations.

We probably would see a little less new term business in FY '27, if we had to call one thing out, because I think customers are going right to SaaS. One example is in Europe, they doubled their SaaS business year-over-year in FY '26. They have really leaned into it in terms of the customer base and our selling motion. And so that's going to be very strong and we're counting on that to be very strong.

So again, no fundamental change in the business. We understand that the starting point is probably a little bit lower. But we feel it's the right place to start. We feel good about it. And we hope to build from here.

And just to be clear, should we expect the net retention state, though, to slow a little bit from the 113 level?

I would not, I would not.

Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor Fitzgerald.

So I want to ask about some announcements from last week about expanding visibility across privileged access in nonhuman identities. So I think, Mark, you did touch on this to some extent. But I'm curious specifically what the gaps are that these upgrades address. And then just looking at the strategy related to privilege, can you just elaborate on how you're thinking of that? Is it a situation where you see the opportunity to compete directly against the PAM vendors? Or is that rather opportunity just based on privilege controls across human and nonhuman identity to not necessarily a direct competitive situation against legacy PAM? How are you thinking of that?

Yes. Thank you, Jonathan. You're right on it there at the end of your comment or question there, I'd say, in that we are not focused at this point on the traditional PAM market, which is kind of a static privilege assignment. The acronym unpacked to privileged account management, right, like an account is sort of permanently privileged in that model. And it's obviously, as we all know, kind of the history of that was permanently privileged users like database administrators and systems administrators. And what we're all talking about, and I'd say this is coming from even the folks like at Palo who bought Cyber and others in the market, that the world is shifting to a much more universal sense of managing privilege across all identities and a much more dynamic sense of privilege, not static.

And so when we look at that evolution -- and by the way, it doesn't that particularly now apply on that dynamic factor to agents, which will probably be so dynamic as to potentially be almost at several. There might be agents that literally exist for a second and do a job and go away again. Well, in that environment, obviously, we think it is going to be that breadth and depth capability that we possess, we think, as strong as anyone in the market, if not stronger. And that is to see that range of identities, and we're doing tons of investment in technology to see, to have visibility to all of that range of identities and then to have the depth to go deeply into the detailed entitlements or data access rights that allow a particular identity to get through particular data.

And again, we've differentiated this since our IPO about a year ago that the other two parts of the traditional identity market, the access part, which is very wide, covers a lot of identities. They're certainly talking to those vendors about covering the new agenetic identity world, but they would struggle, I would argue, to go into the depth that required to really control these things at a granular level. And on the other side, those coming from the privileged heritage, obviously, very deep in their coverage of human identities, and I think they're going to certainly claim to be able to provide that to nonhuman. Their challenge is breadth. They just have typically covered, I think, to quote from the leader at Palo Alto was that typical CyberArk shop can cover 3% to 5% of the identities in that enterprise. And we've covered 100% of those identities in those enterprises.

So it's just a very different starting point to go after this market. And we do believe that fundamental characteristics and then the ways in which we're leaning into this dynamic need is going to put us in a very good position as these markets unfold and as customers go to volume, right? And we do think that's kind of a unique position we're starting from. And others are saying a lot of words and not necessarily were sure how they're going to deliver on those words. So I think that this game is going to be a proof game in our fiscal '27 and calendar '26. It's going to be a proof of who can deliver what the customers actually need and the technology they need to solve these problems.

And we do kind of encourage you to keep watching how that unfolds this year. As Brian said, for a lot of reasons, we think we're starting from the right place with our financial guide. We're making sure you hear us clearly on our confidence in our technical abilities and where we're going. And so that's where I would say that's true. Hopefully, that's helpful.

Our next question comes from the line of Gabriela Borges of Goldman Sachs.

Mark, I want to take your thoughts on what Anthropic has announced on being able to accelerate [ cloud ] migration through the lens of we knew that IGA migrations are sort of painful for your enterprise customers to switch on to SailPoint and then to SailPoint to the implementation as well. So my question for you is, how does AI make those types of migrations easier? The potential opportunity seems to be around your classic market share gains in IGA. The risk would potentially be the pushing cost goes down. So yes, we'd love to huge at about that a little bit.

Yes. I think if I understood it, Gabriela, part of that line was a little choppy, but I think I got most of that question, and I apologize if I didn't. Please clarify. But no, I think what we're seeing is, yes, the AI tools being released rapidly and evolving rapidly in the market certainly do a lot of things to be more efficient and effective at moving customers forward. We're leveraging those tools, right? We always talk about AI for us has three or four characteristics, right? It is potentially enabling bad actors and threat actors to be more effective. We have to protect against that. It's enabling us to be far more effective in what we do. And it's creating this demand curve that we talked about with Rob earlier about our customers are deploying it, and we think we can be there to help them manage it.

So it's got a lot of characteristics. In the sense that what does it do to help us do what we do more effectively, which I believe was your question, and how do we, therefore, maybe potentially fend off kind of newer competitors who are coming, say, from a pure AI agenetic world, I think in terms, we're all going to be talking about a lot this year, Gabriela, and not just in our space, but in a lot of spaces is domain knowledge, right? You can't interest space with zero domain knowledge and be that threatening to a partner who's already in that space and also leveraging AI, right? I think our secret sauce and many vendors' secret sauce is the whole software AI debate will be as we leverage these amazing technologies and filter them through our very deep and rich understanding of what it takes to be successful in these enterprise environments, we think that puts us in a very good position.

So yes, we're actively looking at ways to use AI to discover agents and technologies, how to quickly leverage policies and put them into our product, how to quickly help customers that's buying security policies. There are some new guidelines from -- this out recently, very recently that started to define what's going to be needed to audit agents, something we've been telling people, get ready, this is coming. You're not going to see this explosion of agents without auditors wanting to ensure you can defend what agent was giving what power and why. So I think there's just going to be a ton of aspects of this market that are unfolding. And we're going to leverage all kinds of technology in our products to go after that, but also make sure we are helping customers protect themselves as they deploy AI. So it's really at both ends here. But I hope -- does that Gabriela, to make sure, did I get the question you were really asking?

Yes.

Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Colville of Scotiabank.

Mark and Brian, I mean, lots of drivers that you guys have called out, SailPoint's cloud transition, the SKU upgrade motion, more identities, agentic. I think there will be a lot of questions on the fiscal year '27 guide. So actually, I would want to ask my question about 4Q specifically 4Q ARR, the beat was a little bit skinnier than we might have hoped. So was there anything unusual in 4Q of like push or pull in ARR into different quarters? And then actually, similarly, when I look at operating margin, the outperformance there versus the guide provided 3 months ago was perhaps a little bit less than we've seen throughout fiscal '26. So again, like with cost, was there anything that kind of pushed or pulled in the quarter?

Patrick, I'll go first. This is Brian here. So I think we look at this and we think the business is very healthy, and we're pleased with the results. We're in line to slightly above all of our guided metrics. We grew net new ARR 34% year-over-year. That was the best quarter ever by at least $20 million. And that was driven by SaaS, which that net new ARR was up 41% and year-over-year. So I think we've demonstrated growth at scale. We had a steady gross retention rate and net revenue retention rate. New products are ramping. We're seeing momentum there, as I mentioned, 17% of our net new AR. That new ARR came from emerging customers. Margins improved 270 basis points over the course of the year.

So we're doing this at growth in a very responsible matter. And we also demonstrated significant free cash flow movement. As I mentioned, a lot of customers now are starting with SaaS. So that's in accordance with our strategy. This is playing out as we expected with an intentional shift to SaaS, with 90% of our net new ARR in Q4 coming from SaaS. I think I mentioned that more new customers are starting with SaaS especially in geographies like Europe. EMEA SaaS net new ARR doubled in FY '26. We possibly saw like a little bit of less on-prem expansion bookings through term business, but we're not reading into that. Actually, I think we're viewing this as a positive in terms of now customers embracing SaaS, going right to it. And also migration opportunities are going to be a tailwind for us, as I mentioned, moving forward.

Patrick, this is Matt. I would just add, I mean, I think since Navigate, when we announced a ton of new innovations, it's really kind of accelerated this migration process. And I think that was probably some of the curtailing of -- or maybe some of the slowness as you saw in perpetual licenses add-on. But I think our business is strong. I'd also call out new logos. I know that's always a concern, but it continues to grow. The largest companies in the world are selecting almost every day SailPoint to help them with this challenging agentic security landscape. And our ASP, our new logo ASP for this last quarter was 22% growth. So we had a really, really good fourth quarter as it relates to new logos and with all those ASP.

Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies.

It's Annick Baumann on for Joe Gallo. Nonhuman identities seem to be making deals larger and more complex. Any changes to the sales cycles? And then can you talk about pricing? Previously, I think you talked about a 40% pricing for nonhuman identity relative to human.

Yes, this is Matt. I'll give it a shot and then to other guys can add in if they want. Look, I do think sales cycles have been long a little bit over the last 6 quarters, but I don't think there's anything that we've seen as a late that's changed that narrative. I think when you look at our approach to strategic pricing these agents, we kind of start with the fundamental basis of the principle that agents need to be deployed securely and their life cycle will be intrinsically tied to the human identities, right? I think there's a lot of companies that are looking at it very similar to us. You cannot secure one without governing the other.

And our aim really is to meet our customers and prospects where they are. This is still relatively new to a lot of these folks and they're looking for some approaches to be able to get into this that helps them mitigate in their mind a potential risk of moving forward with agentic AI. So our model and our approach to this is start with humans and then we apply some level of a ratio to it. And if you remember the agentic long theory, right, that this company is going to have 2,000 agents to every 1 employee, where that's a little bit of an extreme example, but it gives you quite a reference on how we're thinking about that.

And then the last part of this thing is how do you charge for this. And it's a bit of a consumption model because you want these customers to be able to deploy it without limits over the period of time of the contract. And the contracts we've done like this, basically, it will start with a price point and then it's what's the renewal look like. And so this gives us a pretty solid foundation to be able to say, here's the cost point, here's the ability to access and to deploy over the period and then here's how the bottom-up of the renewal will come. And those are the long poles in the tent.

The last piece I'll add because it's very important, is a fair use policy. All of these proposals have a fair new policy for sustainability to make sure that if a customer is using it outside of our expectations, right, and the way to think of it is anything over 95% of the broader customer base, right, there's some components in there that actually protect us from runaway costs. And I don't know if that's helpful or not, I hope it is, but it gives you a little bit of a view in terms of how we're looking at pricing this nonhuman world.

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore.

Great. Maybe to Matt, the last question, maybe to a final point, and maybe for you as well, Brian, is how should we think about monetization in a more consumption flex driven model, right? Are there directional metrics you can share with us, if it's revenue per identity or per AI workflow, just to kind of help frame the opportunity or for us to kind of just see what the revenue build looks like? Again, I guess it's more so just quantify for us, as you're securing more AI agents, just how that translates into revenue, higher attach rates, increased assumption or, again, just metrics like revenue for identity, how should we best think about that?

Yes. So this is all about flexibility and adoption for us. We want to get customers going on whatever their nonhuman identity footprint is, being able to secure that right away. And so those flex models that we've introduced, and yes, we do view this as more akin to consumption based but that's not how we're going to recognize it. We're going to actually just have a fixed fee for a period of time. We let them deploy as they need to and then monitor them and then come back to them with any kind of overusage.

Yes. It's not a metered model, Peter. We recognize it financially just like we would any other kind of deal.

And certainly, this is going to be incremental. I mean, it's hard to put an exact 10-point precision on that. But we know that the ratio of nonhuman to human is going to be significant. And this will play itself out over time in terms of price and volume, but we do know it's going to be incremental.

Yes. And our point of view on this is we're trying to make this really, really easy for companies to do business with us and mitigate the risk, as I mentioned before. But this is all about adoption. And the customers that we've seen thus far, once they get in, they start to understand what they can do, what they can't do, it becomes far easier to make greater investments on the move. These kind of flexible pricing models that we're talking about kind of take that away and says, let's get on with the business of the agentic AI.

Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell of BTIG.

Okay. Great. So yes, just what are you seeing in terms of the appetite for customers to replace legacy IGA solutions this year from folks like Oracle and IBM? And are you seeing AI playing a bigger role in those conversations? Is it potentially driving any acceleration of legacy product migration?

Yes. Gray, this is Matt. I'll give you a perspective. I mean, we've really seen -- I'll just use our own migrations as a point of reference, right? Once we announced all the innovations here at Navigate last year, significant difference in these customers that are large customers, and it probably made a lot of customizations even within our own tools, building this overall in regard that they got to move -- I think these agents and agentic AI, I think they all realized this is not going to be a, we want to do it or not. It is coming at you 100 miles an hour. And so I think it's caused not only legacy ones that you're talking about, the Oracles and maybe the CAs of the world, but anybody who's not on a platform that can actually handle or tolerate agentic AI, they're coming at them.

Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari of Baird.

So you closed 500-plus deals tied to new innovations and emerging products contributing 7% net new ARR. It's clearly a very strong start and encouraging early signal. But just given your own commentary and many of these are still in early innings, on the go-to-market side, right, how do you view the current transition from selling a more core governance sales motion towards this more complex multiproduct expansion playbook? Do you feel from training, enablement, field structure, how are you viewing you are already in place to sell this broader platform from day one?

Yes. I'll take a shot at that, and Matt may jump on, too. I think a couple of things, right? We just had, as you all know, our Navigate Conference in the fall and then we just had our sales kickoff just a few weeks ago. And big focus on a couple of different things. One is making sure people feel confident that as any customer wants to move forward with, we'll call it, traditional IGA, they're very confident in what we're doing vis-a-vis our kind of current competitors and the legacy players we've seen. But I think particularly on that, kind of continuing to add fuel to the fire, that 70% our ARR coming from these emerging products, a large portion of the enablement at our scope this year was around making sure people are ready and they flip to go have those conversations.

And then I'll point to one particular thing Matt and the team have done, and maybe Matt will give a little more color here. For the first time, we put kind of a focused targeted sales team around the agentic topic area. We've been bringing in new reps and SEs who come from that kind of a heritage, and that's really opening up a different sales motion to the Chief AI Officer or whatever the company calls their lead AI person, right? We're still obviously engaged with CISOs and identity leaders about that. But we're finding that some of these -- some of the folks, the demand we've been talking about is actually coming from that AI part of the organization. And shockingly -- maybe not shockingly, sometimes they aren't as connected to the identity team as they probably should be. And sometimes we're the ones helping that bridge get built.

But Matt and Gary leads our whole field team to have kind of put a focused effort on that. Matt, maybe expand a little bit on what we're doing there and what we hope to accomplish there.

Yes. Think of them as product-oriented sellers, right? So they walk in the door with a set of skills to be able to talk about agentic and not only the value prop, but also the challenges these companies have in deploying it. I think the other thing that's really important is that, as Mark said, it feels to us that a lot of the budget now is locked up in this Head of AI or Chief AI Officer, whatever they call it. And that going through that route, we're unlocking a lot more budget and a lot more opportunity than maybe just simply going up the traditional type of identity up to the CISO. So that's become very interesting.

Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir?

Well, thanks, everyone, again, for the time. We really appreciate it. Again, we'll kind of end where we started. We feel very good about the results for all of last year. We feel very good about the starting position for this year and the tenets we see coming from these technological shift to our customers. And we invite you to kind of go on the journey with us this year. We feel very good about where we're at and where we're headed, and look forward to continuing to meet with a lot of you individually. Thanks for the time this morning.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]

I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's fiscal third quarter 2026 financial results. Joining me today are SailPoint's Founder and CEO, Mark McClain; and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills.

Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements. And because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance, and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially. This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which excludes certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance. Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We are thrilled to share our most recent quarterly results that include a significant milestone for the company. In fiscal Q3 '26, we surpassed $1 billion in annual recurring revenue or ARR. With this exciting milestone, I wanted to use today's call to emphasize three key themes: First, our reimagination of identity security; second, our accelerated pace of innovation; and third, our confidence as we look ahead to Q4 and beyond.

Let me start with the broader transformation happening in identity security. The market is moving beyond static, compliance-first approaches toward real-time, adaptive identity, an approach we were one of the first to champion. By unifying identity, data and security intelligence with the SailPoint platform, we are helping organizations gain the visibility, control and scale needed to defend against an ever-expanding threat landscape in real time. We believe our Q3 results validate that strategy, reflecting our disciplined execution, the impact of sustained innovation and the accelerating demand for identity security as the control point for enterprise security.

This leads to my second theme, innovation. Our newer product introductions continue to drive strong interest, fueling our robust cross-sell growth. Customers see clear value in how these capabilities extend the reach and intelligence of identity across their enterprises. This is especially true of our SailPoint Machine Identity solution, which remains our fastest-growing launch to date. We also just completed our largest-ever global user conference series called Navigate, where we unveiled a family of innovations that together represent what we believe to be the most significant product launch in our company's history.

These innovations center on four key themes: real-time identity governance, expanded protection for digital identities like agents and machines, a universal and dynamic approach to privilege, and deeper integration of identity intelligence into the security operations center or SOC. All of this uses our Atlas platform as the foundation.

The response has been immediate and extremely positive. Customers have confirmed that these innovations bring our real-time adaptive identity vision to life in a way they have been waiting for. The early momentum we're seeing across products signals that organizations are adopting this vision quickly and with conviction.

A few areas in which we're seeing particularly strong interest include: SailPoint Agent Identity Security for deeply managing the exploding landscape of agent identities; SailPoint Accelerated Application Management, for helping enterprises quickly onboard the hundreds or thousands of applications they use and to put strong governance controls around them; and SailPoint Observability & Insights, for delivering real-time identity intelligence, stitching together signals from across the IT ecosystem to reveal hidden risks, while strengthening security for all identity types.

Importantly, this wave of customer interest and adoption is reinforcing the strategic path we've been driving for years. Gartner's 2025 Market Guide for IGA validated what we've long believed, that identity is no longer a compliance check box. It's a critical control for securing the modern enterprise. The industry is only beginning to recognize this shift, but our customers are already benefiting from innovations we've built on this very premise.

As we continue expanding our family of identity security solutions, we're also evolving how customers can acquire and adopt that innovation. We recently introduced our new flex licensing model that is designed to meet customers where they are, not only in their identity journey, but in how they prefer to buy and deploy our solutions. With digital identity surging, customers need the ability to take advantage of new capabilities quickly and efficiently. Our flex licensing model is built for exactly that, giving organizations more choice, more flexibility and a clear path to adopt the innovations we're bringing to market at the pace that makes sense for them.

Another growth driver this quarter is the ongoing opportunity to help our IdentityIQ customers migrate to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. These migrations are not only modernizing their environments, but also strengthening their long-term alignment with our platform.

For example, one of the largest U.S.-based logistics and shipping providers is migrating to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. As part of this migration effort, they also added SailPoint Machine Identity Security, choosing SailPoint for our scalable, automated and intelligent approach to identity security. With Identity Security Cloud, they will be able to support a large and growing number of digital identities and applications, giving them a clear path to expand into agent identity security and other areas, like identity threat detection.

Organizations are making these modernization moves because they know we can scale with them as their journey evolves. At the same time, customers are strengthening their investment with us as their identity and digital landscapes continue to expand, in the number and variety of identities they manage and in the volume of applications, systems and data those identities need to access. Our Q3 results reflect this trend. We believe this is a clear sign of the trust customers place in SailPoint to secure their rapidly growing identity surface.

As just one example of this expansion trend, a large energy and utility company experienced such a successful migration to Identity Security Cloud that they significantly extended their investment with us, adding SailPoint Machine Identity Security, Agent Identity Security, Observability & Insights, Accelerated Application Management and Atlas Enterprise, all through our flex licensing model. This combination of new product offerings attracting new customers and our existing customers expanding with us shows the strength and balance in our business model. It also underscores our clear differentiation, the breadth of identities we protect and the depth of context we provide.

The SailPoint platform delivers adaptive identity by unifying identity, data and security intelligence in real time. The platform also enables organizations to continuously adjust access and security decisions based on risk and business dynamics. We believe this combination is unmatched in the market today, and it's why customers continue to choose SailPoint and to grow with us over time.

And finally, it's never been easier to deploy with SailPoint. We understand that innovation only matters if customers can quickly realize its benefits, which is why we're focused on simplifying deployment and accelerating time to value across our new solutions. The recent introduction of SailPoint Accelerated Application Management allows customers to intelligently discover and onboard all, not some, but all of their applications for immediate governance.

Our digital agent, Harbor Pilot, further simplifies the administration of identity programs through natural language prompts. And our partner ecosystem is leveraging AI to streamline and accelerate application onboarding, expediting time to value for our joint customers.

Taken together, our results speak to a company executing with focus, delivering value for customers today while positioning ourselves for the next stage of growth.

This brings me to my third theme, confidence. Just as important as what we achieved in Q3 is what it signals about the path ahead. Our pipeline remains strong and diversified, and we continue to see strong engagement across both new and existing customers. As the attack surface expands and agent-based threats accelerate, organizations are turning to SailPoint faster than ever.

Our most recent Horizons of Identity report underscores why. The majority of enterprises are still early in their identity maturity in Horizons 1 or 2 and, moving forward, requires stronger agent management and a unified identity data model. We believe we are uniquely positioned to help them advance.

While we're focused on finishing the year strong, we're equally committed to building for the long term. Our strategy is grounded in what we believe has always set SailPoint apart, the depth of identity context we deliver and the breadth of identities we protect. With governance at our core, our platform provides a level of precision and granularity that we believe others cannot replicate. It's also what enables us to expand the definition of identity security and support an adaptive identity model that protects enterprises efficiently and effectively in an increasingly dynamic environment.

As an independent player in a market more recently defined by consolidation and bundled point solutions, SailPoint is emerging as a strategic identity layer in the security landscape, with a common cross-vendor fabric that delivers clarity and context across all security signals. To that end, we're continually investing in innovation that continues to push the boundaries of modern identity security, more intelligence, more automation and deeper connectivity that embeds identity context across the security ecosystem. As identity becomes the control center of enterprise security, SailPoint is defining and leading a new era for the industry.

I want to thank our customers for their trust, our partners for their collaboration and our employees for their incredible commitment and execution as we continue driving this mission forward.

And with that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Brian Carolan, to walk through the financials in more detail. Brian?

Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today.

As Mark noted, this quarter, we surpassed $1 billion in ARR, closing fiscal Q3 at $1.04 billion, representing a 28% year-over-year increase. SaaS ARR grew 38% year-over-year and now stands at $669 million, representing 64% of total ARR. The consistency of our growth at scale is something we believe few in the cybersecurity market have been able to accomplish.

This quarter, the durability of our growth was once again due to many drivers across both new and existing customers. The strength was also broad-based across geographies and industry verticals. We were especially encouraged by the strong initial interest in the new products we introduced at our Navigate conference. In fact, we booked orders for each newly available product despite only being generally available for 1 month. The demand behind these new offerings is contributing to the healthy expansion of our pipeline.

Overall, we experienced strong growth in our cross-sell motion driven by our Non-Employee Risk Management, Machine Identity Security and Data Access Security solutions, which collectively more than doubled in ARR year-over-year.

As Mark noted, we also had a strong migration quarter, which we refer to as platform modernizations. The strength of our platform and ability to govern and secure all identities from human to machine, to AI agents has led enterprises to conclude that now is the time to modernize their environment.

It's also worth noting that more than half of our platform modernizations included at least one of our emerging cross-sell products. And with our new flex licensing model, we are making it simpler for customers to adopt and deploy our platform and future innovations.

Additionally, we continue to see a shift towards our most fully featured Business Plus suite, which accounts for more than half of our suite-based ARR. The combination of strong suite-based adoption, cross-sell expansion, identity upsell and platform modernizations demonstrates customer alignment with our strategic vision of adaptive identity security. These expansion motions contributed to our net revenue retention, or NRR, of 114% this quarter.

Moving on to the P&L. In fiscal Q3 '26, we delivered revenue of $282 million, an increase of 20% year-over-year, with subscription revenue growing 22% on top of strong growth in the year-ago period. We remain committed to driving top line growth through investments in our partner ecosystem and product innovations to extend our position as a market leader, all while delivering results in a responsible manner.

In the third quarter, we delivered adjusted operating income of $56 million or 19.8% margin, well above our guidance, driven by higher term subscription revenue and disciplined expense management. We generated cash flow from operating activities of $54 million and free cash flow of $49 million or 17.4% free cash flow margin, which reflects our robust growth profile.

Turning now to guidance. For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck.

For the fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2026, we are increasing our ARR guidance by $12 million to $1.122 billion, up 28% year-over-year. From a net new ARR perspective, this implies $82 million or 30% growth for the fiscal fourth quarter and $245 million or 26% growth for the fiscal year 2026.

As it relates to our revenue guidance, we expect to deliver $292 million in fiscal Q4 '26, an increase of 22% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 20.2% and adjusted EPS of $0.09. For fiscal year 2026, this translates to revenue of $1.069 billion, an increase of 24% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 18% and adjusted EPS of $0.23. We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 565 million shares.

In summary, we are confident in our strategic direction and our team's demonstrated ability to execute. Our strong quarterly results, underscored by our increased guidance, reflect the inherent strength of our market position and continued product innovation. We remain committed to driving durable profitable growth, and we are optimistic about our ability to deliver significant long-term value to our shareholders. With a well-defined road map, an exceptionally talented team and an expanding market opportunity with multiple growth drivers, we believe we are well positioned for continued success.

With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our President, to join us, and open the call for questions. Operator?

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies.

Congrats on the $1 billion ARR milestone. That's a huge achievement. Obviously, agentic security will benefit your existing customers first. But can you just talk about the top of funnel pipeline with new logos? I mean IGA has been around for a while, but there's a huge opportunity there. Is agentic forcing people to reexamine their human identities as well?

Thanks, Joe. This is Mark. And I just -- as we got into the question-and-answer, I did want to thank everybody for joining us today and also look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow at the Barclays Conference out in San Francisco. But with that, I'll probably pass that one straight to Matt because in terms of what we're seeing out in the demand landscape out in the customer, both new customers that are in the process of looking at our broader IGA offering as well as existing customers who are pretty excited about what's happening with agentic. So Matt, if you could that one.

Thanks, Mark. Joe, look, I think you're thinking about it the right way, that installed base and then the greenfield. And I think there's a consistent thread in all of that as folks are starting to move into this, and that is, how much? How much do I need to get started? There's a certain amount of still people really don't know. And so that's one of the reasons, I don't know if you saw it yesterday, we announced our flex pricing, the Navigator flex pricing models. And one of them is actually called the Digital Identity Flex, and it allows companies to get into this at a really nominal rate, right, and then start growing into it from there. I think that's going to help accelerate a ton of interest, because that's been one of the long poles in the tent, if you will.

When you look at our greenfield proposals and things that are going out, look, I don't know that one is going out that doesn't have AI in it. And so again, I think this is going to accelerate all of that because, with these flex models now, no longer do we have to spend a ton of time trying to figure out exactly how many people need to be able to get started.

So we remain hugely upbeat. I think the field is hugely excited about this announcement we made yesterday with these flex Navigators.

Awesome. And then just as a follow-up, Brian, you've done a tremendous job with ARR beat and raises. I just wanted to double-click on 4Q. I mean you beat the first 2 quarters of the year by 2% approximately, 1% this past quarter. 4Q appears to be a modest acceleration in new business for ARR. I know there's moving parts, but just anything that we should think about, whether it was slip deals, FX or anything else just to gain comfort in the ramp into 4Q?

Yes. Thanks, Joe. Yes, I think you're right. I mean I think we feel really good about the overall health of the business. We've been public for 3 quarters now. We have met or exceeded all guided metrics. Heading into Q4, we have a lot of confidence. I wouldn't read anything into slip deals whatsoever. I think this is a typical fourth quarter for us. We feel really good about where we stand right now with the pipeline.

If you step back and look at the linearity of the fiscal year, Q4 will represent about 1/3 of our total year net new ARR, so very consistent with the prior 2 fiscal years. And I would say that, again, we feel really good heading into it.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Rob Owens of Piper.

Mark, you talked a little bit in your prepared remarks about this is a market defined by consolidation of point solutions. And I'd just like to hit on the consolidation theme, especially as we've seen a lot of adjacent vendors now starting to look at the IGA market. So I realize this has been relatively recent, but any market confusion from your sense, number one?

And number two, maybe remind us why SailPoint has such a differentiated and defensible solution over the long run. As some of these other larger tech bellwethers start to play in IGA.

Yes. Thanks, Rob. A couple of comments. Fortunately for us, this is a consistent message. If you even go back to our IPO roadshow messaging, we talked quite a bit at that time about what we thought was a pretty defensible moat around the breadth and depth. And just to define those terms a little bit, right, breadth being the range and scale of identity types. Obviously, we've evolved through the years from employees to non-employees, to now two big flavors of non-human kind of machines, bots and service accounts, et cetera, and now agents. And that breadth is certainly something that we've proven that we can handle at scale. But probably what gets lost sometimes is the importance of the depth of what we can do for that breadth of identity, and that gets into these detailed entitlements.

And what we're finding is as others are jumping into this game, as you say, Rob, there's a lot of movement, either building and/or buying into the IGA space from folks that have been near us and even folks that have been a little further away in the security landscape. What they're all, I think, going to struggle with is handling those two things together. There are people coming from the access landscape that have tons of breadth of volume. But typically, solutions built on that base have very little depth. They're basically log-in focused and very rarely can get into the detailed entitlement structure, particularly of older bespoke applications, which are very prevalent in large enterprises today.

And on the other side of people coming from, say, the privileged landscape that certainly have demonstrated an ability to go deep, their challenge is going broad, because typically they are managing a very limited number of identities in any given part of an enterprise, those kind of permanently privileged static privileges like database admins and sys admins.

So taken together, it's that ability to start from a very rich base of breadth and depth and then rapidly expand on both vectors, expanding into this rapidly exploding landscape of machines and non-humans and agents while continuing to invest and, we think, a fairly defensible moat. We know of start-ups that are out in the market with sub-100 deep complex integrations into applications, and we are in the tens of thousands now. So that is a fairly significant gap from some of those companies' current offerings to our offering.

So I think we feel quite good that while people are making a lot of noise and it's easy to make a lot of claims about entering this marketplace, doing the hard work of really digging into these landscapes of these complex enterprises is very challenging. And I think we're starting to see some acknowledgment of that from some of the folks around us.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with BTIG.

Yes. So can you talk about the Savvy acquisition that you announced back in August, and I think that underpins the Accelerated Application Management products. So just like how does that impact a customer's time to get up and running on SailPoint? Are there any like finer points you can give there? And then to the extent that it's easing friction, is that something that can help you move down market?

Gray, it's Mark. I'll take the beginning of that and I'll probably pass it for a little more depth to Matt because you dug in now with some of the customers that are looking closer at that. But yes, we are really pleased to find Savvy out there. We've known of them in the market. And what they had is some pretty slick, I think that's not a technical term, but a pretty slick technology for discovering applications as they're coming through the front end to the browsers. And as a result, we've had confidence now to stand up and say to customers, Chandra made this point at our Navigate conference, that we believe confidently we can discover effectively all of their applications in a relatively short time frame. That's what we call Tier 1. In other words, understanding those applications are out there and exist. And when others have been claiming, "Oh, we're faster and better than SailPoint," it's like, well, they're just claiming they can get visibility.

We then define Tier 2 as the ability to do kind of rich compliance and understanding how to authenticate who has access and then make sure that's audited and compliant. And the most deep and challenging level we call Tier 3 applications where we can get into automated provisioning, life cycle management, where changes are made automatically by SailPoint based on changes in the environment. But when you get into those Tier 2 and Tier 3 applications, it's much -- again, much bigger moat technically for what it means to get into that realm.

But where Savvy and now our SAAM, Accelerated Application Management -- SailPoint Accelerated Application Management Solution comes in is to help us get that broad coverage very rapidly. And then go from there into the depth as customers required in their environment.

Matt, what are you seeing kind of in the demand out there in the customers?

Well, look, I think this has been something that our competitors have effectively used against us for some time. And so now we have this Savvy tool, which, as Mark said, we marketed as SAAM, is now available. And I think there's a couple of things. When you look at these Tier 1s, right, these -- typically, it's like, I just want to be aware. And you can get a little bit of detail around it like users and maybe a basic level of entitlement.

But with our Savvy, SAAM solution, you can also categorize. So now these companies will be able to say how many of these applications are actually using agents. And I think that's a really, really big thing. Because all of a sudden now, when you realize that of your 1,000 applications, 900 of them are actually using these agents that maybe you're getting from a ServiceNow or Salesforce.com, right? Now you're going to have to do something other than just be aware. You're probably going to want to go up to this Tier 2 level that Mark was talking about. And all of a sudden, the stakes just got really significantly bigger for everybody, who is trying to get there.

So we think our tool here is going to continue to allow us to get to the security around -- and governance around these applications much quicker than anybody else. So I think you're going to see this basically on every deal we do, to be fair, Gray. We priced it very reasonably so that everybody can actually use it, because we think it's a big differentiator.

One last comment I'd add there, Gray, that is that this is part of this fundamental evolution of this space from kind of a compliance audit focus, what came out of Sarbanes-Oxley, and where big companies would really only govern deeply a small handful of applications because those are the ones they had to audit. As we move toward truly securing these applications, that's why we have to get visibility and control over basically the majority, if not effectively, all apps, and then go deep into deep governance and deep compliance on the ones where the customer says, "That's really important to me. I want to maintain much more strict controls over those."

And it's that flexibility to understand the breadth of the landscape and then go deep into various apps. Again, I think others are going to have a lot of struggles to kind of catch up to where we are today after a couple of decades of going deep in many, many of these complex applications.

Got it. That was really helpful. Congratulations on the strong results.

Our next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal of TD Cowen.

Congrats on the set of results. My question is about operating expenses. You guys are doing a great job. Talk to us about the internal usage of AI to also take advantage of some of these opportunities and curb costs.

Shaul, it's Brian here. Thanks for the question. So we are embracing AI internally. We use this as an existential competitive advantage as well in terms of the tools that we're exploring across all aspects of the business, from product development to go-to-market, to internal G&A functions. Really exciting stuff. I think that we're still, as with many companies, in the early stages of it. But we are really excited about the use case possibilities, and we're starting to see some payback on that.

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore.

Congrats on the quarter. Maybe one, Mark or Matt, is you look at traditional PAM vendors, they emphasized bolting, session recording. How do you articulate SailPoint's competitive moat as you kind of move towards this like new-gen PAM? Like how do customers still view privileging through that kind of legacy lens? And then what's kind of what's your pitch to them?

And then one for Brian. Brian, on the new kind of, call it, not the pricing model, but if you think about the flexing model, maybe walk us through like the margin impact, the pricing model. How does that work? And should we expect any kind of variations or seasonality in the model going forward as this starts to ramp up?

I guess I'll start with the privilege, and Matt may make a comment or two, then we'll flip to Brian for the flex pricing. Peter, I guess on the first point, yes, one of the things we like to say is, look, it's not that, that use case, that traditional PAM use case is going away. It's not. It's just going to represent an increasingly smaller part of the challenge that customers are wrestling with. Because even the folks at Palo, who obviously did the cyber acquisition, are making pretty public comments now about the challenge of now taking what they've done traditionally across that limited set of permanently static privileged users and making privilege. I think they've used the word dynamic or something like that. We've used the word democratizing privilege. The concepts are the same. The idea that over time, every identity, human or non-human, may have reasons to be treated as a privileged account, and that can basically be flexed up and flexed down. Not flex pricing, sorry, I don't want to confuse you with that term. But the level of privilege might flex up or flex down.

And as a result, it's that challenge again of having that broad understanding of that deep entitlement landscape so you can make choices based on context is going to start to become a big word here, not just the who/what is accessing what information, but from where, at what time, through -- with what intent. That's going to be another concept we'll be talking more about is particularly with agents. What is the intent this agent has in accessing information? And does that seem typical or expected? And if so, great. If not, I'm going to escalate the privilege required to get to that in very real time, in a dynamic, just-in-time kind of notion there.

So this idea that privilege will become ubiquitous and flexible is quite different from the technology that was required to build static privilege with a kind of a permanent safe vault of these credentials that were kind of checked out and checked in, for very important use cases like database administrators and such. So it's not that, that isn't an important part of securing the environment, it still is, right? But we believe that the next wave is going to be far more about this broad-based ubiquitous dynamic privilege. And with all due respect, the folks that have come from PAM don't have any particular advantage of solving that problem versus folks like SailPoint who come from a broad and deep understanding of the entitlement landscape. So that's why we think we're well positioned to handle that.

And then I'll just comment on just the new flex licensing model, flex Navigators is what we call it. Again, we're really excited about this. We think it's going to help customers buy and consume the way they want to, and really optimize their investment, deploying what they need, when they need it.

This will be SaaS. It will be recognized ratably over time. The flex licensing pool is tied to our rate cards, list prices. So I wouldn't read into anything in terms of an overall margin degradation. So I think we're going to be really excited to see how customers utilize this in the best way for their environment.

It's also going to help accelerate migrations or what we call platform modernizations. So helping our on-prem customers adopt and grow into an ISC, Identity Security Cloud platform, faster and easier in a much more economical way.

Our next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley.

This is Ryan Lountzis on for Meta Marshall. I guess just from a go-to-market standpoint, you've announced multiple new product offerings and a new flex pricing model. And so I'm just curious if you could provide some additional color around how ramping sales personnel in these new products and initiatives more broadly has trended thus far, and maybe just kind of how you're thinking about sale firing going forward?

Ryan, this is Matt. Look, I think this is something we certainly pay attention to. I think if you look at our go-to-market model, we have a lot of specialization that's built up historically in our solution engineering organization, and that's where a lot of that comes from. I think one of the things you'll see from us, we started this last year, adding a bit of these specialty sellers that are specific to an area, right, so take in consideration data. We think that's a little bit of a different selling motion and it warrants at least initially, some expertise to come in and work alongside the field team. So I think you can see us looking at things like that as we go forward. And that's one example of where we've moved.

Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor.

I'm wondering if you could touch a little bit more on the success you called out with data security. I would assume that the attach rate could be quite high on agent identity, but I realize it's still early in that journey. So maybe just touch on the use cases driving that success. And just from a big picture viewpoint, we hear a lot of identity companies talk about the importance to data as it relates to identity security. Can you just touch on that strategy at SailPoint as well?

Jonathan, it's Brian here. I'll start, and I'm going to hand it over to Matt for a little bit more color. So I mean, we're really excited about just kind of the, I'll say, the market basket of all of our cross-sell motions that contribute to our NRR number of 114%. They have more than doubled year-over-year. And that's a composition of things like Non-Employee Risk Management, Machine Identity Security, Data Access Security. And then more recently, we're starting to see some green shoots from Agentic Identity Security and many of the other products that we launched at Navigate.

So there's a lot of interest that's showing up in the pipeline. I would say, it's still early on some of the Navigate launches, but very exciting from our perspective, and we're starting to see a strong attach rate of the new cross-selling motion. In fact, out of our new SaaS customers this past quarter, we had a little bit more than a 40% attach rate of some of these new cross-sell motions. So again, we are landing with some of them right out of the gate, and that's only going to allow for some more expansion as we have more and more product out there that we just launched.

The only other point we can make, I'll jump in and then probably pass to Matt again on this, Jonathan. We've had a product out in that data landscape for quite some time because we were pretty early on in identifying the fact that while the history of this space has largely been about application protection, who or what are these identities and what apps can they access and within the app what entitlements, quite a while ago, we said, well, at some point, this space is going to need to incorporate direct access of those identities to data, both structured and unstructured. And things like the family of Microsoft apps, PowerPoint, Word, et cetera, but now as well as deep data access into the things like Snowflake and Databricks right?

Well, there's going to be, we think, a continued need for that human direct access to data, which is, again, we'll be building on the heritage we've got, with what we called our Data Access Security product. But importantly, in this new realm of agentic, it's that full connection thread from the human or business function that has authorized an agent to take access directly to data, whether that data is in, again, Snowflake, Databricks, out in an LLM somewhere, and understanding that full thread, that's going to be extremely challenging for folks who don't have that breadth and depth already defined.

And our data offering will actually be a part of our advanced agentic offering coming in the future. We kind of pointed toward that at Navigate, but it's not yet available. I think, Matt, we can talk about kind of a little where that's headed, but...

Yes. No, Jonathan, intuitively, you're right on, right? We believe the same thing that it's going to be awful hard to secure the work of an agent without data. So I think we talked a little bit about that at Navigate. I think if you look at us historically, our Data Access Security product has been unstructured. It's now moving over to structured data, as well. And so I think you're going to see, as we roll out that product, DAS will -- it will drag DAS with it. So it's -- we're pretty excited about it.

Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari of Baird.

Congrats. So you did address the newly launched product traction, which is very impressive. I would like to talk double-click into the Observability & Insights. You described as fabric, of course, that stitches the telemetry across systems. Can you just walk us through how customers are using or looking to use that in practice? What's the monetization model there? And structurally, does this give you leverage to embed into broader SOC workflows and capture that wallet share as well?

Well, I'll start. We'll do a lot of these. Where I'll probably start and hand off to Matt, Shrenik. I think on this one, yes, you've got it exactly right, there's going to be a number of different things we think will be pretty powerful coming out of that O&I product. One is just the visualization of this connectivity, again, of that threat I talked about. When I can look at the identity and understand the path all the way through, say, an application or not through an application directly to the data and understand whether that's appropriate and being used as expected, and tying that, as you observed, into the SOC, whether that means kind of from our product line to other product lines from folks like Zscaler or CrowdStrike or Palo or possibly embedding that into some other people's workflows in their SOC directly. And so we're having both kinds of conversations today, kind of, I'd call it, higher level integration and perhaps even deeper kind of OEM level integration that we think could be interesting over time.

But it's that visualization and understanding of that full value chain, if you will, that, that product is going to be focused on. And then the insights part of it, obviously, is to expose to the security teams and the identity teams, whether there's current risk or potentially latent risk that needs to be identified and dealt with before something negative happens.

So it's this idea of visibility into the true risk profile of a lot of these things is very, very difficult today. You will hear if you talk to, I'll call them, honest, people that work in the SOC, that one of their biggest challenges is when they see a vulnerability or a threat emerging coming through any one of those landscapes out in the cloud, through a device on the network, all the places we look for threats, the great majority of those things, those tools are identity blind. They don't understand the identity that's either creating that access or could be negatively impacted.

And so it's bringing together this rich identity context that we believe SailPoint is uniquely positioned to provide, tied into that deep security and threat landscape from the SOC and all those kinds of tools we mentioned, that's going to be a new era, we think, of much better defense against the bad actors and the threats emerging.

So that's -- you're right on in terms of where we're headed with that product and what we think will be kind of a breakthrough in the landscape of really giving true security tools to the SOC relative to identity.

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC.

Congrats on the results from me as well. Brian, I realize you're not giving any sort of perspective on fiscal '27 yet. You guys are still close on 4Q. But any sort of like high-level thoughts or guide rails on kind of how you're kind of approaching the new year, whether it be growth or margins or anything like that, that would help us?

Yes, sure, Matt. I would say that we're really pleased with our margin performance this past year. I think we've demonstrated our ability to expand margins on a nice healthy basis while driving high top line growth. I would say that this year we benefited to a certain extent by strong term-based revenue through strong Fed renewals, some slightly longer durations. Not so sure I'd expect that to continue into FY '27. So that was a little bit of a tailwind for us this past year.

We're still going to invest for growth. I think we're going to favor a point of growth over profitability, because we know we can deliver profitability. But we're in a rare universe here in terms of companies that can deliver into the high 20s, almost touching 30% of ARR growth while delivering significant margin expansion. So we feel like we're really uniquely positioned, and we're going to continue to take advantage of our competitive opportunity.

Our next question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Truist Securities.

You've talked about significant customer interest in your Agent Identity Security solution. My question is, what hurdles do you potentially anticipate in customer adoption of agentic AI for identity security? And how are you preparing organizations to trust AI-driven identity decisions at scale?

Well, Junaid, I'll unpack that, if I can. I think I heard two different questions in there. And one is what are we going to do to help customers manage their agentic environment. And as we've often said, there's basically two large flavors of that, right? There's going to be all the agents that are proliferating from the big vendors, Salesforce, ServiceNow, Workday, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And mid- to large organizations are clearly going to build a set of bespoke agents with kind of agentic frameworks that they think are unique to their environment. So both flavors of agents, we think, are absolutely coming and coming at volume and scale. There's a little bit of noise out there about bubbles and all that.

And our view is, look, what companies are doing is trying a lot of things and experimenting and trying to figure out what works. But our belief is, certainly, as we get into the next year, there's going to be pretty widespread adoption. So there's the agentic adoption of our customers and what they need help in, in managing those identities just like they manage all other flavors of identities.

A different but also important question is, are they going to trust that we in the security landscape are using AI effectively to provide the value we provide? And I think on that front, again, we're doing a lot of work internally for everything from how we see patterns that might indicate there is a risk out there, how quickly we address concerns when they arise from customers by using LLM ourselves to rip through lots of information and find out kind of root cause analysis of what might be going on.

So both are really important threads. They're just kind of different. One is all the technology we're building to help customers manage this agentic explosion in their environment. The other is all the ways we're leveraging AI and various technologies inside our product line, including our own bespoke agentic technology for customers, Harbor Pilot that's called. It's going to be a growing family of agentic capabilities within SailPoint to address these problems.

So I just wanted to tease apart, I think there's both in there. I don't know if you wanted to probe any more on one or the other, but they're both very important to us.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Todd Weller of Stephens.

I'll echo the congratulations. Look, a robust set of new capabilities were launched at Navigate. Could you also talk about the potential for those to be a catalyst to drive more SaaS migrations?

And then the second question would be last quarter, you talked about seeing an acceleration in legacy displacements. Just wanted to see if there was an update on what you're seeing there.

Todd, it's Brian here. I'll start and then maybe hand it over to Matt for any additional color. So we actually had a very strong platform modernization quarter. When I say platform modernizations, these are customers that are migrating from our on-prem solution to ISC or Identity Security Cloud. All of our new offerings, they are SaaS, so they will be on the Identity Security Cloud platform. So I think that's really kind of the innovation carrot that we say in terms of customers see our vision and they see where we're going to help them with their needs, not only today, but also into the future.

And we've actually seen, when we migrate, more than half of these migrations include emerging cross-sell modules. And that's what drives really kind of a 2 to 3x uplift that we often talk about of the ARR that our on-prem customers are spending with us today in the form of typical annual maintenance. We see a 2 to 3x multiplier on that when they do migrate to Identity Security Cloud.

The good news is that there's a strong amount of interest and it's still early. So we've only migrated about 15% of our historical maintenance base and there's still 85% to go. So we view that as actually a nice tailwind for the next 2, 3 years, at least. And I think that's only going to compound with all these new product offerings and when customers need to meet the challenges of agentic and deploy Observability & Insights that we talked about earlier that Mark alluded to. So again, we're really excited about the possibility.

Next question comes from the line of Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research.

You touched a little bit on some pieces. But when you look at Non-Employee Risk Management, Data Access and Machine Identity, you mentioned that doubled year-over-year. Can you talk about the contribution to ARR? Where does that stand today? And how do you think about that progression looking forward? And then a follow-up on flex, what the duration of those contracts look like versus traditional deals? And how do the unit economics differ for the customer?

Ben, it's Brian here. So while we won't talk specifically about the ARR number, it is doubling year-over-year. And we also talked about how it contributes to our net revenue retention rate. It's probably in the low single digits if you combine the full market basket of all those modules combined, which again it's a high growing, fast-growing basket of modules that's getting strong adoption and attach rate.

With respect to the flex model, the Navigator model, this is going to be no different from any other SaaS arrangement for us. It's typically an average of 3 years in length. And I think I mentioned earlier, this will be SaaS and it will be ratably recognized.

Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research.

I kind of want to go back to the first question that was asked. And my question is I'm trying to reconcile what is an incredibly positive earnings call and a customer base that is increasingly embracing like your new vision of identity with the lighter beat in the quarter. So my question really is like, was there anything around Fed, or you keep emphasizing that it was a huge quarter for these platform migrations, is there anything we need to understand about how term ARR become SaaS ARR as these migrations happen? Or was there anything around Fed or any other verticals that you can kind of help us bridge what is an incredibly positively toned call with kind of the lighter performance in the quarter, that would be very helpful.

Josh, it's Brian here. I think you need to step back and look at we're guiding to an annual number. This number is greater than $1 billion, and we're beating on that. I think when you look at beating on an annual number, that's like 4x of quarterly guide. So 1% beat on an annual ARR number is like a 4% beat on a quarterly.

That aside, I think you have to look at also the net new ARR performance. It was $58 million, that's up 24% year-over-year. And the quality, which, by the way, that's 20% above the guidance. I think you need to also look at the underlying quality of the beat, which SaaS net new ARR grew 52% year-over-year.

So we feel really good about the overall health of the business, surpassing $1 billion, plus or minus 30% growth over the last 8 quarters, while expanding margins nicely. And we're flowing through the full beat on ARR. So I would not interpret anything. We had a very strong quarter on a variety of fronts across all verticals. Fed was strong. We did have some strong term revenue out of Fed, some slightly longer durations.

That aside, SaaS also performed extremely well. Again, I mentioned the net new ARR being up 52%, with a very strong attach rate. So I think we sit here today in Q4 and we feel really good about the business.

Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz of Mizuho.

Mark, I wanted to ask about your just-in-time capabilities and how additive you think they will be going forward to your customers and to SailPoint's business more broadly. Also how valuable will JIT be when it comes to agentic protection?

Yes. Thanks, Gregg. I think it's certainly too early for us to kind of give you any sense of what it looks like in a financial impact. As Brian commented, even some of these other market basket of newer things we've introduced are -- because we're on such a large overall base now, even if they're going quite well, they're going to be -- take a little while to have a financial impact.

But that said, I think this trend is critical, and I'm really happy with a lot of the questions you all are asking today because I think everybody is tuning into it more and more, that the world of kind of a static, what we sometimes call admin time approach to identity governance is shifting to a real-time, just-in-time identity security posture. And that is no more important than in the realm of agentic, because at machine speed, as it's sometimes said, an agent that either goes rogue or has the potential to go rogue can do an awful lot of damage far faster than a human ever could.

So we're going to have to get very fine-tuned into understanding both the setup these things have, right? That configuration, administration setup and what is this agent, where did it come from? Even it's being created relatively transiently, where did it come from? What's it designed to do? What's its intent? Again, that's a word I think we're going to be talking more and more about. And then, is anything going awry as that thing is working? And so our ability to sense changes to detect potential anomalies to look for patterns is going to have to be increasingly real time. And as we said on the earlier question, richly tied into the SOC. We aren't going to have all those signals and patterns coming from the SOC, just like they don't have all the patterns and signals about the identity landscape. But when we bring those together in real time, I think that's where we're going to really start to change the game for these customers that are trying to deploy this incredible new technology of LLMs and AI and agents, but are still quite concerned about the risks that come along with that without good control.

So we think it is a kind of almost an inflection point shift in our landscape for the next few years. And you've heard it, but I'll say it one last time, we don't think there's anybody better positioned than SailPoint to help customers navigate that journey and take advantage of these new technologies.

I would now like to turn the conference back to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir?

My closing remarks will be brief. Thank you all for joining us. We really appreciate all the interest and the questions. And as Brian said, we are very pleased with these results. And you're getting a strong sense of our confidence heading into the end of the year. And look forward to, again, going deeper on some of these in follow-on calls with some of you and/or at the conference tomorrow in San Francisco.

So thanks for joining us. Appreciate everybody's questions. Have a great rest of your day.

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.