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📘 Marktkapitalisierung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Marktkapitalisierung zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen laut Börse aktuell wert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft Unternehmen in Größenklassen (Large, Mid, Small Cap) einzuordnen und gibt Hinweise auf Marktmacht und Stabilität.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Große Unternehmen gelten als stabiler, zahlen oft Dividenden, wachsen aber langsamer.
- Kleine Firmen können stärker wachsen, sind aber schwankungsanfälliger.
- Die Marktkapitalisierung ist ein guter Indikator für Unternehmensgröße, aber kein Maß für Unter- oder Überbewertung.
📘 Enterprise Value (Unternehmenswert)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Enterprise Value (EV) zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich kostet, wenn man es komplett übernehmen würde – inklusive Schulden und abzüglich Cash.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
(= Marktkapitalisierung + Nettoverschuldung)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der EV ist eine realistischere Bewertungsbasis als die Marktkapitalisierung, da er die Kapitalstruktur berücksichtigt. Er ist Grundlage für Kennzahlen wie EV/FCF oder EV/Sales.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Der Enterprise Value zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich wert ist – unabhängig davon, wie es finanziert ist.
- Er ist besonders wichtig für professionelle Investoren, da er eine objektivere Grundlage für Bewertungsvergleiche bietet als die Marktkapitalisierung allein.
- Ein Unternehmen mit hoher Verschuldung erscheint im EV teurer, eines mit viel Cash günstiger – auch wenn sie an der Börse gleich viel wert sind.
📘 Nettoverschuldung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettoverschuldung zeigt, wie viele Schulden nach Abzug des verfügbaren Cashs tatsächlich verbleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen von Fremdkapital abhängig ist – und wie gut es in der Lage ist, seine Schulden kurzfristig zu bedienen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige oder negative Nettoverschuldung bedeutet hohe finanzielle Stabilität.
- Unternehmen mit viel Cash und geringer Verschuldung sind besser gerüstet für Krisen.
- Eine hohe Nettoverschuldung erhöht das Risiko – besonders bei steigenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
📘 Cash
📈 Was ist das?
Der Cashbestand zeigt, wie viele liquide Mittel einem Unternehmen sofort zur Verfügung stehen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Er gibt Auskunft über die finanzielle Flexibilität: Ein hoher Cashbestand ermöglicht Investitionen, Rückkäufe oder Krisenresistenz.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Cashbestand zeigt finanzielle Stärke und Handlungsspielraum.
- Cash kann für Investitionen, Schuldentilgung oder Aktienrückkäufe genutzt werden.
- Allerdings: Zu viel ungenutztes Kapital kann auch auf mangelnde Investitionsideen hinweisen.
📘 Anzahl ausstehender Aktien
📈 Was ist das?
Die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien gibt an, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell im Umlauf sind und von Investoren gehalten werden.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die Grundlage für viele Kennzahlen wie Gewinn je Aktie (EPS), Marktkapitalisierung oder KGV.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Je weniger Aktien im Umlauf sind, desto höher fällt z. B. der Gewinn je Aktie aus – wichtig für Bewertung und Dividendenrendite.
- Aktienrückkäufe verringern die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien – und steigern den Wert je Aktie.
- Kapitalerhöhungen haben den gegenteiligen Effekt: mehr Aktien → Verwässerung der bestehenden Anteile.
📘 Kurs-Gewinn-Verhältnis (KGV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KGV zeigt, wie oft der Gewinn pro Aktie im aktuellen Aktienkurs enthalten ist – also wie „teuer“ eine Aktie im Verhältnis zum Gewinn ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KGV gehört zu den bekanntesten Bewertungskennzahlen. Es hilft Anlegern einzuschätzen, ob eine Aktie im Vergleich zu ihrem Gewinn eher günstig oder teuer erscheint.
🧮 Berechnung
📊 KGV (TTM) = bezogen auf den Gewinn der letzten 12 Monate (Trailing Twelve Months):🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KGV kann auf eine günstige Bewertung hindeuten – oder auf Probleme im Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein hohes KGV kann Wachstumserwartungen widerspiegeln – oder eine überbewertete Aktie.
📘 Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis (KUV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KUV zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen – unabhängig vom Gewinn.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KUV ist besonders bei wachstumsstarken oder noch nicht profitablen Unternehmen hilfreich. Es zeigt, wie hoch der Umsatz an der Börse bewertet wird.
🧮 Berechnung
Marktkapitalisierung = 53,67 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 8,80 Mrd. $
Marktkapitalisierung = 53,67 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 9,05 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KUV kann auf Unterbewertung hindeuten – oder auf schwache Margen.
- Ein hohes KUV kann hohe Erwartungen widerspiegeln – oder übermäßigen Optimismus.
- Besonders sinnvoll bei Wachstumsunternehmen, bei denen der Gewinn oder Free Cashflow (noch) keine Aussagekraft hat.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Umsatz (EV/Sales)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/Sales zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen, wenn man auch Schulden und Cash berücksichtigt – es ist eine kapitalstrukturbereinigte Version des KUV.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl eignet sich besonders für den Vergleich von Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Verschuldung – sie zeigt, wie teuer ein Unternehmen tatsächlich im Verhältnis zum Umsatz ist.
🧮 Berechnung
Enterprise Value = 56,94 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 8,80 Mrd. $
Enterprise Value = 56,94 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 9,05 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EV/Sales ist neutral gegenüber der Kapitalstruktur und eignet sich gut für Unternehmensvergleiche.
- Ein niedriges Verhältnis kann auf eine günstig bewertete Aktie hindeuten – ein hohes Verhältnis auf hohe Erwartungen oder Überbewertung.
- Besonders nützlich bei wachstumsstarken, noch nicht profitablen Firmen.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Free Cashflow (EV/FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/FCF zeigt, wie viele Jahre es dauern würde, bis ein Unternehmen seinen Unternehmenswert durch freien Cashflow „zurückverdient”.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Unternehmen auf Basis ihrer tatsächlichen Cash-Erträge zu bewerten – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder buchhalterischem Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges EV/FCF deutet auf eine günstige Bewertung bei starker Cashgenerierung hin.
- Ein hohes EV/FCF kann entweder auf Optimismus oder auf temporär schwachen Cashflow hindeuten.
- Besonders hilfreich bei reifen, profitablen Unternehmen mit stabilen Cashflows.
📘 Kurs-Buchwert-Verhältnis (KBV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KBV zeigt, wie hoch der Marktwert eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zu seinem bilanziellen Eigenkapital ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KBV ist besonders bei Substanzwerten (z. B. Banken, Industrie) relevant. Es hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob ein Unternehmen unter oder über seinem buchhalterischen Vermögen bewertet ist.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein KBV unter 1 kann auf Unterbewertung oder schwache Rentabilität hindeuten.
- Ein KBV über 1 zeigt, dass der Markt dem Unternehmen Mehrwert über den Buchwert hinaus zuschreibt (z. B. Marken, Patente, Wachstum).
- Das KBV eignet sich besonders gut für Unternehmen mit stabilen, materiellen Vermögenswerten.
📘 Dividende je Aktie
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividende je Aktie zeigt, wie viel Geld ein Unternehmen pro Aktie an seine Aktionäre ausschüttet – typischerweise jährlich oder quartalsweise.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die absolute Größe der Auszahlung je Aktie – wichtig für alle, die regelmäßige Erträge suchen oder Dividendenstrategien verfolgen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile oder wachsende Dividende je Aktie ist oft ein Zeichen für ein solides Geschäftsmodell.
- Die Dividende je Aktie allein sagt aber nichts über die Rendite – dafür ist auch der Aktienkurs relevant (→ Dividendenrendite).
- Langfristig steigende Dividenden sind oft ein sehr gutes Merkmal (z. B. Dividenden-Aristokraten).
📘 Dividendenrendite
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividendenrendite zeigt, wie hoch die Dividende eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zum Aktienkurs ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft dabei, Dividendenaktien vergleichbar zu machen – unabhängig vom absoluten Auszahlungsbetrag.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile Dividendenrendite kann auf verlässliche Ausschüttungen hinweisen.
- Ein Vergleich der 1J- und 5J-Rendite hilft zu erkennen, ob das Dividendenwachstum mit dem Kurswachstum Schritt hält.
- Eine niedrige Rendite ist nicht zwingend negativ – sie kann auf starkes Kurswachstum hindeuten.
📘 Dividendenwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Dividendenwachstum zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen seine Dividende je Aktie über die Zeit gesteigert hat.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
5J: durchschnittliche jährliche Wachstumsrate (CAGR)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Stetig steigende Dividenden gelten als Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und Aktionärsorientierung – besonders interessant für langfristige Investoren.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein stabiles Dividendenwachstum ist ein Zeichen nachhaltiger Ertragskraft.
- Ein hohes Dividendenwachstum kann ein erheblicher Hebel deiner Rendite sein:
- Wenn ein Unternehmen z. B. 1 € Dividende zahlt und diese über 5 Jahre jährlich um 15 % erhöht, bekommst du im 5. Jahr bereits 2 € je Aktie – doppelt so viel wie zu Beginn!
📘 Ausschüttungsquote (Payout)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Ausschüttungsquote zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Unternehmensgewinns (pro Aktie) als Dividende an die Aktionäre ausgeschüttet wird.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Quote hilft einzuschätzen, ob eine Dividende auf Dauer tragfähig ist – besonders im Verhältnis zum erzielten Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige Ausschüttungsquote bedeutet: Das Unternehmen behält einen größeren Teil des Gewinns für Investitionen – typisch für Wachstumsunternehmen.
- Eine moderate Quote (z. B. 25–50 %) steht oft für ein gesundes Gleichgewicht zwischen Ausschüttung und Zukunftsinvestitionen.
- Hohe Ausschüttungsquoten können attraktiv wirken, sind aber riskanter, wenn die Gewinne schwanken oder sinken.
📘 Dividendensteigerungen in Folge (Erhöhungen)
📈 Was ist das?
Diese Kennzahl zeigt, wie viele Jahre in Folge ein Unternehmen seine Dividende pro Aktie erhöht hat – ohne Kürzung oder Aussetzung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein langer Track Record kontinuierlicher Erhöhungen spricht für Verlässlichkeit, solide Finanzen und aktionärsfreundliche Unternehmenspolitik.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein langer Zeitraum mit Dividendensteigerungen stärkt das Vertrauen – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Solche Unternehmen gelten als verlässlich und planbar für Einkommensinvestoren.
- Je länger die Serie, desto stärker das Commitment gegenüber den Aktionären.
📘 Umsatz
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen insgesamt mit seinen Produkten und Dienstleistungen verdient – also den Bruttoerlös vor Abzug von Kosten.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Umsatz ist eine der zentralen Kennzahlen zur Einschätzung der Unternehmensgröße, Marktstellung und Wachstumskraft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein wachsender Umsatz zeigt eine steigende Nachfrage und kann ein guter Frühindikator für Gewinnsteigerungen sein.
- Vergleiche von aktuellem und erwartetem Umsatz geben Hinweise auf das Marktumfeld und Analystenerwartungen.
- Wichtig: Starker Umsatz allein genügt nicht – auch Margen und Profitabilität zählen.
📘 EBITDA
📈 Was ist das?
EBITDA steht für „Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens, bereinigt um bilanztechnische und finanzierungsbedingte Effekte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBITDA ist eine verbreitete Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der operativen Leistungsfähigkeit – insbesondere bei kapitalintensiven Unternehmen oder im internationalen Vergleich.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes oder wachsendes EBITDA spricht für starke operative Erträge – unabhängig von Bilanzierung oder Steuerlast.
- EBITDA ist besonders nützlich, um Unternehmen branchenübergreifend zu vergleichen.
- Wichtig: EBITDA ist keine offizielle Gewinnkennzahl – Abschreibungen und Finanzierungskosten werden ausgeklammert.
📘 EBIT
📈 Was ist das?
EBIT steht für „Earnings Before Interest and Taxes“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen und Steuern. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Finanzierungs- und Steueraufwand.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBIT ist eine zentrale Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der Profitabilität aus dem Kerngeschäft – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder Steuersystem.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes EBIT deutet auf ein profitables Kerngeschäft hin – vor Zinslasten oder steuerlichen Effekten.
- Es erlaubt objektivere Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Finanzierung.
- Im Vergleich mit EBITDA zeigt EBIT bereits den Einfluss von Abschreibungen auf das operative Ergebnis.
📘 Nettogewinn
📈 Was ist das?
Der Nettogewinn ist der verbleibende Jahresüberschuss (oder -fehlbetrag) eines Unternehmens – nach Abzug aller Kosten, Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Nettogewinn ist die zentrale Erfolgskennzahl – er zeigt, wie profitabel ein Unternehmen nach allen Kosten tatsächlich arbeitet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein steigender Nettogewinn zeigt, dass das Unternehmen effizient wirtschaftet – trotz aller Kosten.
- Die Entwicklung des Gewinns beeinflusst z. B. direkt das KGV und weitere Kennzahlen.
- Im Zeitverlauf lässt sich ablesen, wie stabil und profitabel ein Geschäftsmodell wirklich ist.
📘 Free Cashflow (FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow gibt Aufschluss über die echte finanzielle Stärke eines Unternehmens – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln. Er zeigt, wie viel Spielraum für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldenabbau besteht.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
FCF reflects a company’s real financial strength – regardless of accounting profits. It shows how much flexibility a company has for dividends, share buybacks, or debt reduction.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow bedeutet, dass ein Unternehmen echte Finanzkraft besitzt – unabhängig vom bilanzierten Gewinn.
- Er ist oft die solideste Grundlage für nachhaltige Dividenden und Aktienrückkäufe.
- Sinkender FCF kann ein Warnsignal sein – auch wenn der Gewinn stabil aussieht.
📘 Umsatzwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Umsatzwachstum zeigt, wie stark sich die Erlöse eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert haben – tatsächlich (TTM) und auf Prognosebasis (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (Umsatz erwartet ÷ Umsatz Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein wachsender Umsatz ist ein zentrales Signal für steigende Nachfrage, Geschäftsausweitung und Marktanteilsgewinne – besonders bei Wachstumsunternehmen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachstum ist der Motor langfristiger Wertsteigerung – besonders bei Technologie- und Wachstumsaktien.
- Wichtig ist nicht nur das aktuelle Wachstum, sondern auch dessen Nachhaltigkeit.
- Prognosen zeigen, ob Analysten weiteres Potenzial erwarten – oder eine Verlangsamung.
📘 EBITDA-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBITDA-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBITDA ÷ EBITDA Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein steigendes EBITDA ist ein Zeichen für verbesserte operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Finanzierungsstruktur oder Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Starkes EBITDA-Wachstum signalisiert operative Effizienz und Skalierung – besonders relevant in Wachstumsphasen.
- EBITDA-Wachstum ist ein Frühindikator für Margen- und Gewinnentwicklung – sollte aber stets im Zusammenhang mit Umsatz und EBIT betrachtet werden.
📘 EBIT Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBIT-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens (nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern) im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gewachsen ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBIT ÷ EBIT Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein direkter Indikator für die wirtschaftliche Entwicklung des operativen Geschäfts – unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (Abschreibungen).
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Steigendes EBIT signalisiert wachsende operative Rentabilität – auch unter Berücksichtigung von Abschreibungen.
- Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein wichtiges Maß zur Beurteilung von Geschäftsmodellen mit hohen Investitionskosten.
- Im Zusammenspiel mit Umsatz- und EBITDA-Wachstum ergibt sich ein umfassendes Bild zur operativen Entwicklung.
📘 Nettogewinn-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Nettogewinn-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark der Jahresüberschuss eines Unternehmens gegenüber dem Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist – sowohl tatsächlich (TTM) als auch auf Basis von Prognosen (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwarteter Nettogewinn ÷ Nettogewinn Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Der erwartete Wert basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Gewinn ist die entscheidende Ergebnisgröße für ein Unternehmen. Ein wachsender Nettogewinn deutet auf steigende Effizienz, stabile Kostenkontrolle und nachhaltige Ertragskraft hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachsender Nettogewinn stärkt die Bewertung, Dividendenfähigkeit und Kursfantasie.
- Stagnierender oder rückläufiger Gewinn trotz Umsatzwachstum kann auf Margendruck hinweisen.
📘 Free Cashflow-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Free-Cashflow-Wachstum zeigt, wie sich der freie Mittelzufluss eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert hat – also der Betrag, der nach allen operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Free Cashflow ist der echte, verfügbare Geldzufluss. Wachstum in diesem Bereich ist ein Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und steigende Flexibilität bei Dividenden, Rückkäufen oder Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Sinkender Free Cashflow kann auf steigende Investitionen, höhere Kosten oder stagnierende operative Erträge hindeuten.
- Besonders bei Dividendenwerten ist das FCF-Wachstum wichtig – denn Dividenden werden letztlich aus dem verfügbaren Cash gezahlt.
- Ein negativer Trend sollte genauer analysiert werden – er ist nicht zwangsläufig schlecht, aber potenziell ein Warnsignal.
📘 Bruttomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Bruttomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellungskosten (Material, Produktion) als Bruttogewinn übrig bleibt – also der „Rohgewinn“ eines Unternehmens.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Auch: Bruttomarge = Bruttogewinn ÷ Umsatz × 100
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Bruttomarge gibt Aufschluss über die Profitabilität eines Produkts oder Geschäftsmodells vor Fixkosten, Steuern und Zinsen. Sie zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen produzieren oder einkaufen kann.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Bruttomarge deutet auf starke Preissetzungsmacht und effiziente Herstellung hin.
- Sinkende Bruttomargen können auf Kostensteigerungen oder Preisdruck hindeuten.
- Besonders im Vergleich zu Wettbewerbern liefert die Bruttomarge wertvolle Einblicke in die Geschäftsqualität.
📘 EBITDA-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBITDA-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz als operativer Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) übrig bleibt. Sie misst die operative Effizienz – ohne Verzerrungen durch Finanzierung oder Buchwerte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBITDA-Marge hilft zu verstehen, wie viel operativer Gewinn ein Unternehmen aus jedem Euro Umsatz erzielt – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder steuerlichem Umfeld.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBITDA-Marge zeigt starke operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Bilanzierungseffekten.
- Die Marge ermöglicht gute Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen und Branchen.
- Ein stabiler oder wachsender Wert kann auf effiziente Kostenkontrolle und Skalierbarkeit hindeuten.
📘 EBIT-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBIT-Marge zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Umsatzes als operativer Gewinn nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern übrig bleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBIT-Marge misst die operative Ertragskraft eines Unternehmens unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (z. B. Maschinen, Anlagen). Sie eignet sich gut zum Vergleich von Geschäftsmodellen mit unterschiedlich hohen Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBIT-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen auch nach Abschreibungen effizient arbeitet.
- Sie ist besonders relevant in kapitalintensiven Branchen.
- Langfristig stabile oder steigende Margen sind ein Zeichen wirtschaftlicher Stärke und Preissetzungsmacht.
📘 Nettomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz am Ende als „Reingewinn“ übrig bleibt – also nach Abzug aller Kosten, Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Nettomarge gibt an, wie effizient ein Unternehmen über alle Stufen hinweg wirtschaftet. Sie zeigt, wie viel Gewinn tatsächlich je Euro Umsatz übrig bleibt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Nettomarge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nicht nur operativ stark ist, sondern auch seine Finanzierung und Steuerbelastung im Griff hat.
- Vergleiche mit Wettbewerbern geben Einblicke in die wirtschaftliche Qualität.
- Sinkende Nettomargen trotz Umsatzwachstum können ein Warnsignal sein – etwa für steigende Kosten oder sinkende Effizienz.
📘 Free Cashflow Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug aller operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen tatsächlich als freier Mittelzufluss übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Marge misst die echte Liquidität, die ein Unternehmen erwirtschaftet – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder Abschreibungen. Sie ist besonders relevant für Dividenden, Rückkäufe und Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nachhaltig liquide Mittel erwirtschaftet.
- Sie ist ein starkes Signal für finanzielle Stabilität und Ausschüttungspotenzial.
- Wichtig ist der langfristige Trend – sinkende Werte können auf steigende Investitionen oder rückläufige operative Effizienz hindeuten.
📘 Eigenkapitalquote
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalquote zeigt, wie hoch der Anteil des Eigenkapitals an der Bilanzsumme eines Unternehmens ist – also wie stark es sich aus eigenen Mitteln finanziert.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote steht für finanzielle Stabilität, Krisenfestigkeit und gute Bonität. Sie ist besonders relevant bei der Beurteilung der Verschuldung.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote signalisiert finanzielle Stabilität – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf ein höheres Risiko oder eine aggressive Verschuldung hinweisen.
- Wichtig: Die Eigenkapitalquote sollte immer gemeinsam mit der Eigenkapitalrendite betrachtet werden. Nur so lässt sich beurteilen, ob ein Unternehmen nicht nur solide, sondern auch effizient wirtschaftet.
📘 Eigenkapitalrendite (ROE)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen mit dem Kapital seiner Aktionäre arbeitet – also wie viel Gewinn es pro Euro Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite ist eine zentrale Rentabilitätskennzahl. Sie hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob das Unternehmen eine attraktive Verzinsung auf das eingesetzte Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalrendite spricht für ein starkes, effizientes Geschäftsmodell.
- Besonders interessant ist sie bei kapitalintensiven Firmen oder solchen mit hoher Eigenkapitalquote.
- Wichtig: Ein sehr hoher ROE kann auch auf hohe Schulden hinweisen – daher sollte sie immer im Kontext mit der Eigenkapitalquote betrachtet werden.
📘 Return on Capital Employed (ROCE)
📈 Was ist das?
ROCE misst die Gesamtrentabilität eines Unternehmens – also wie effizient es das eingesetzte Kapital (Eigen- und Fremdkapital) zur Gewinnerzielung nutzt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Das eingesetzte Kapital ist das gesamte betriebsnotwendige Kapital, unabhängig von der Finanzierungsquelle.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROCE eignet sich besonders gut für den Vergleich unterschiedlich finanzierter Unternehmen. Es zeigt, wie effektiv ein Unternehmen Kapital investiert – unabhängig von der Kapitalstruktur.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROCE zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen sein Kapital effizient einsetzt – unabhängig davon, ob es durch Eigen- oder Fremdkapital finanziert ist.
- Je höher der ROCE im Vergleich zu ähnlichen Unternehmen, desto mehr Wert schafft das Unternehmen mit seinem investierten Kapital.
- Besonders wichtig ist der ROCE bei Firmen mit hohen Investitionen – z. B. in Industrie, Energie oder Infrastruktur.
📘 Return on Invested Capital (ROIC)
📈 Was ist das?
ROIC zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen das Kapital investiert, das langfristig im operativen Geschäft gebunden ist – unabhängig davon, ob es aus Eigen- oder Fremdkapital stammt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
- NOPAT = „Net Operating Profit After Taxes“
- Investiertes Kapital = operatives Vermögen abzüglich nicht-verzinster Schulden
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROIC ist eine der präzisesten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung der Kapitalrendite – besonders im Vergleich zur Eigenkapitalrendite, weil es Verzerrungen durch Schulden vermeidet. Er zeigt, ob ein Unternehmen Mehrwert für alle Kapitalgeber schafft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROIC zeigt, wie gut ein Unternehmen mit dem tatsächlich investierten (betriebsnotwendigen) Kapital wirtschaftet.
- Im Unterschied zu ROCE wird nur Kapital betrachtet, das wirklich zur Finanzierung operativer Aktivitäten dient – und verzinst werden muss.
- Besonders hilfreich, um die Kapitalrendite von Unternehmen mit viel „überschüssigem“ Kapital oder zinsfreien Verbindlichkeiten realistisch zu vergleichen.
📘 Verschuldungsgrad (Leverage Ratio)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Verschuldungsgrad zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen durch verzinsliche Schulden (z. B. Kredite und Anleihen) im Verhältnis zum Eigenkapital finanziert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Kennzahl hilft, das finanzielle Risiko und die Abhängigkeit von Fremdkapital zu beurteilen. Ein hoher Verschuldungsgrad kann die Eigenkapitalrendite steigern – birgt aber auch erhöhte Risiken bei Zinsanstiegen oder Liquiditätsengpässen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Verschuldungsgrad steht für finanzielle Stabilität und Unabhängigkeit.
- Ein hoher Wert kann auf erhöhte Risiken hinweisen – insbesondere bei schwankenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
- Wichtig: Immer im Kontext zur Branche und Kapitalintensität bewerten.
📘 Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS)
📈 Was ist das?
Das Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) zeigt, wie viel Gewinn auf eine einzelne Aktie entfällt – und ist eine der wichtigsten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung von Unternehmen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die verwässerte Aktienanzahl berücksichtigt auch potenzielle neue Aktien, etwa durch Optionen, Wandelanleihen oder andere Umtauschrechte.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EPS bildet die Basis für viele Bewertungskennzahlen wie KGV, PEG oder Payout Ratio. Es macht den Gewinn für Aktionäre vergleichbar – unabhängig von der Unternehmensgröße.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EPS hilft, die Profitabilität pro Aktie zu erfassen – und ist besonders wichtig im Zeitvergleich oder im Vergleich mit Analystenschätzungen.
- Steigendes EPS kann ein Zeichen für stabiles Wachstum oder Aktienrückkäufe sein.
- Wichtig: Verwende verwässertes EPS für realistische Bewertungen – besonders bei stark aktienbasierten Vergütungssystemen.
📘 Free Cashflow je Aktie (FCF je Aktie)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow je Aktie zeigt, wie viel freier Mittelzufluss einem Unternehmen pro Aktie zur Verfügung steht – nach Investitionen, aber vor Dividenden oder Schuldentilgung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der FCF je Aktie zeigt, wie viel liquide Mittel pro Aktie tatsächlich im Unternehmen verbleiben – wichtig für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldentilgung. Im Gegensatz zum Gewinn ist er schwerer manipulierbar und daher besonders aussagekräftig.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow je Aktie ist ein Zeichen für hohe finanzielle Flexibilität.
- Er zeigt, wie viel Kapital ein Unternehmen effektiv einsetzen oder ausschütten kann.
- Besonders relevant für dividendenstarke Unternehmen oder solche mit starker Kapitalrendite.
📘 Short Interest
📈 Was ist das?
Short Interest zeigt, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell leerverkauft wurden – also von Investoren geliehen und verkauft, in der Erwartung fallender Kurse.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Der Wert zeigt den Anteil der Aktien, der aktuell auf fallende Kurse spekuliert wird.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Short Interest dient als Stimmungsindikator: Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Skepsis oder negative Erwartungen gegenüber dem Unternehmen hin – kann aber auch zu einem „Short Squeeze“ führen, wenn der Kurs plötzlich steigt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Short Interest deutet auf Vertrauen in das Unternehmen hin.
- Ein hoher Wert kann ein Warnsignal sein – oder eine Chance, wenn sich die Stimmung dreht.
- Besonders spannend in volatilen Märkten oder vor wichtigen Quartalszahlen.
📘 Employees
📈 Was ist das?
Die Mitarbeiteranzahl zeigt, wie viele Personen ein Unternehmen weltweit beschäftigt – ein Indikator für Größe, Struktur und Geschäftsmodell.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft bei der Einschätzung von Skaleneffekten, Effizienz und Personalkosten. Zusammen mit Umsatz und Gewinn lassen sich Kennzahlen wie Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ableiten.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Viele Mitarbeiter bedeuten große operative Komplexität – aber auch hohes Umsatzpotenzial.
- Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ist ein wichtiger Indikator für Effizienz.
- Besonders spannend bei stark wachsenden Tech- oder Industrieunternehmen.
📘 Umsatz je Mitarbeiter
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz je Mitarbeiter zeigt, wie viel Erlös ein Unternehmen durchschnittlich pro Beschäftigtem erwirtschaftet – eine Kennzahl für Effizienz und Produktivität.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die Mitarbeiterzahl stammt in der Regel aus dem letzten verfügbaren Jahresbericht.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Geschäftsmodelle zu vergleichen – insbesondere zwischen arbeitsintensiven und technologiegetriebenen Unternehmen. Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Automatisierung, Effizienz oder hohen Wertschöpfungsanteil hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Umsatz je Mitarbeiter spricht für ein skalierbares und margenstarkes Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf arbeitsintensive Prozesse oder geringere Wertschöpfung hinweisen.
- Besonders hilfreich beim Vergleich von Tech- vs. Industrieunternehmen.
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1. Question Answer
We're on day 3 of the Wells Fargo Industrials Conference and very pleased to continue the discussions with Rockwell Automation, and thank you very much to Matheus Bulho, who is the SVP of Software and Control; and Aijana Zellner, who's the Vice President of both Investor Relations and Market Strategy. Thank you for being here. Really appreciate it.
We're going to jump right into the Q&A. And let's just start on the demand backdrop. And so we did -- we've seen really good organic growth, particularly in Intelligent Devices and Software & Control. That growth actually seemed to accelerate from Q1 to Q2. A lot of focus on pull forward or what exactly is contributing to some of the acceleration. So maybe just set the stage for us on what you're seeing out there.
Sure. I can start. So in terms of the outperformance, products have been outperforming the longer-cycle business for several quarters now. So that's how you see ITD, Intelligent Devices and Software & Control continue to see good growth. And so in our most recent quarter, Q2, we saw good growth across many industries. Still a lot of focus on smaller modernization projects, efficiency, productivity, overall effectiveness of existing facilities.
With that said, we did see kind of broadening of the demand and larger projects across a number of additional industries. And so when we talk about semiconductor, data center, e-com and warehouse automation and parts of energy, that's where we saw a combination of brownfield projects, but also more larger projects. So that was certainly very encouraging. We increased our outlook for those end markets for the full year.
And if you look at other industries, food and beverage, automotive, they performed well in Q2. We saw good activity, but mostly tied to smaller initiatives, small modernization projects. And so we don't count on larger CapEx activity in those end markets for the rest of the -- our fiscal year. But overall, we do continue to see good growth, and we increased our guide to 7% for the full year.
And just that last comment for the rest of the fiscal year, when we think about larger projects, what does the pipeline look like on the larger project side of things and conversations that you're having with customers right now?
Sure. Well, we can start with discrete industries. If you look at e-com and warehouse automation, we continue to see good projects, could be large brownfield retrofits. There are a lot of warehouses and sortation facilities that are still pretty manual today, and they will continue to invest. Labor scarcity, labor cost continues to be a good driver for that increased automation need. And so we see that acceleration in that spend across different customer segments within e-commerce and warehouse automation. Parcel companies, e-commerce players, traditional retailers, all of them are investing in their facilities. So we do see continued expansion there.
Data center, a lot of it is greenfield. We, of course, have an opportunity with retrofits as well. But with a lot of new data center build-outs and the AI workloads that are driving the need for our offerings, including our PLCs, we do see continued durable demand there. And then semiconductor as well. We did see some pickup there, and it's both on the core semi with the legacy fabs, but increasingly also with the AI-related data center-related investments as well.
Got it. Yes, we'll get into data center a little more low single digit of percent of revenue, right, but probably 2/3 of our discussion last night at dinner. On customer spend and when we think about product spend versus larger project spend, what is the average spend for Intelligent Devices or Software & Control versus something in Lifecycle Services or configure to order? Is there a spend threshold that you're seeing customers not really willing to move forward on those bigger bill of material projects?
It's not necessarily a particular dollar threshold, but it's really what the customer is trying to do. So if you look at the dynamic of the smaller modernization projects, it's where customers feel they have a scope, they have a clear ROI and they can get it done and it's going to drive that efficiency and it's going to effectively increase their existing production capacity by increasing their throughput, increasing the quality.
What they're kind of holding off on is just larger, longer-ranging CapEx projects because trade uncertainty is still very persistent, right? We don't have clarity on USFCA. There's still a lot of changes on the policy front. Geopolitical volatility is not helping get customers more confident with our decisions. But -- so that's kind of broadly what we're seeing.
Now with the particular strength we saw in Q2 with bigger projects, if you think about data center, semiconductor, warehouse automation, those are good products that come from Intelligent Devices and Software & Control segment, right? So we're going to talk about it later, but it's our Logix PLC, it's our control architecture, it's our cloud-native software, it's our variable drives, it's our sensors, it's our AMR portfolio. So it's really a lot of different pieces that come together.
Now the reason Lifecycle Services as a segment is not seeing that uplift that ITD and Software & Control are seeing is just it so happens that there is not a lot of solutions content that goes into the business of data center or e-com and warehouse. So there, we predominantly sell products and software and then someone else largely solutions for the end user.
Got it. On the channel inventory side of things, just in terms of your assessment of how those inventories look, but also how the tools have evolved that you use to track this and sort of help with that comfort level?
Yes. So we have much better, much better visibility into inventories out there than we had relative to pre-pandemic. Pre-pandemic, we were primarily a book-and-bill business. So we didn't have as much attention into this space. But since then, we've kind of built out quite a few muscles to help us prevent and avoid to the degree we can, any type of prebuy and excess inventory out there. So there's quite a few areas. At Rockwell, we have -- we manage our distributor inventory. So we have a good understanding of what they ship and what they place on us, so we can -- we have a good sense of the terms that they're operating with.
We've also put in place controls around unusual order patterns where we evaluate based on historicals and we probe for more details when we see something that's unusual. That's not just on the magnitude of orders, but also in the composition of certain orders because we know how systems are generally composed. So we see -- if we see a significant mismatch between different parts of the system, we'll also inquiry and evaluate. And to be frank, in some cases, in quite a few cases, we've rejected and canceled orders based on that.
What we don't have as much visibility into is into the demand that goes into our end customers like the OEMs and so on. So to compensate for that, we have been executing now for quite some time surveys that are against a proxy sample of customers and a proxy sample of industries where we evaluate based on their feedback. And so far, we don't have any indications that prebuys are any meaningful contribution to the results.
And then on Middle East, you did note that some activity in Lifecycle Services had been pushed out. Just what you're seeing there? Any quoting activity, how you think about a time line for folks to reengage?
Yes. As we mentioned on our Q2 earnings call, we do have some exposure. It's very limited to the Middle East. It's now even smaller with the dissolution of our Sensia joint venture. We do still have opportunity on the recovery and rebuilding. If you look at our portfolio, our ability to serve, it's more of a longer cycle business. So the impact will be really most likely in fiscal '27 and beyond. But we do see opportunities in that region, but also broadly in energy.
As we talked about, energy is 15% of our total revenue. You have traditional oil and gas, you have power generation, you have renewables, including carbon capture and wind and solar. And we're well positioned to play there because our technology is used across -- the same technology is used across all of those different applications. And whether it's LNG, whether it's gas-powered microgrids, whether it's building out infrastructure for data centers, whether it's energy resilience, right, closer to where we are, we're well positioned.
And so that's part of why we increased our outlook for energy as an end market for the full year. We expect to grow high single digits. And we do think there's opportunity there beyond that.
And then moving to pricing. You've got, I think, 2.5% of price in the guide for this year. There's some tariff-based pricing tied to that. But just how the pricing strategy at the company has evolved, different tools that you're using? Do you feel like you have more that you can do there on the pricing side?
Absolutely. Rockwell has been a premium price supplier in the industry for quite some time. Historically, we've been realizing about 1 point of price if you look back many years. We -- certainly, during the last supply chain -- during the supply chain crisis where we had a really kind of an inflationary chip environment, and it was important to increase prices very quickly. We have changed our methodology, and we became much more agile.
So we put different mechanisms in place, like, for example, moving from fixed contracts to fixed discount. So we are able to actually instantaneously increase prices across our customer base to respond to different things. That's been very helpful, right? So we've become much more resilient, much more agile. We invested in software and optimization to give us more visibility into pricing by customer, by region, by industry, by application, so we can be much more surgical about how we do price.
And then, of course, driving more price discipline across our customer base so that when there are discounts, when there are negotiations, it's really for the customers in the areas and initiatives that make the most sense and increasing that yield. We certainly have had much higher price -- we had much higher price realization in fiscal '25 than we've had over the longer periods of time. This year, in fiscal '26, we're guiding to 250 basis points of price, of which 100 basis points of tariff related and then 150 basis points is underlying price. We think there's continued room to grow over the coming years.
We have the differentiation. We have the ability to realize price. The current environment in terms of inflationary costs and tariff, certainly, it impedes our ability to continue driving higher underlying price beyond what we're doing. But we think broad the longer term, we're well positioned and pricing is a great lever, one of many levers for us to continue expanding our margins.
And then just related to the chip side of things in terms of availability, any challenges out there as well as how you're approaching the pricing side of that?
Yes. We talked about input costs for us. We don't have as much exposure to commodities, raw materials, but we have some. The biggest really element for us is memory chips. And it just so happens that a lot of it goes into Matheus' business Software & Control. So as we all know, the cost for memory chips continues to increase. And we talked about expecting double-digit millions of headwind in our second half. So that certainly is inflationary and it continues to escalate. We have great mechanism in place to offset and mitigate these increases with price as we've demonstrated over the last several years.
The challenge is really the timing. As we mentioned in our Q2 earnings call, we will offset this cost increase with price, but it's not going to necessarily align perfectly in any particular quarter, which partly explains why we expect Q3 margins and especially in Software & Control to not be as high as they were in Q2, but we feel like we have it under control.
And moving to Software & Control. And so let's just start a little bit of background in terms of what exactly is the value that you're delivering to customers, why customers are choosing Rockwell over competitors?
Yes. Yes. So there are quite a few vectors there of value creation. I'll point to a few here, but -- and I'll start with the -- today, what we do, we are 100% focused on production systems. So all of our employees every day, that's what they're dedicated to. And we have -- we feel pretty good. We have a full stack. There are no major holes in our portfolio. And that's important because increasingly, the challenges that our customers face, they are system concerns. They are system problems.
So you think about things like cybersecurity, functional safety, data, even AI. So if you're coming into a system and you're only contributing to a piece of that system, you don't have as much opportunity to create value and differentiate. So we are set to disproportionately benefit from that need across our customer base, and we have been continuing to win against some of the more niche smaller suppliers because of this trend.
The other significant value creation we provide to our customers has to do with how we've approached and modernized our portfolio. So things, for example, the fact that we've been first to cloud in many of our offerings has allowed us to kind of incorporate technologies that create significant value for these customers, such as AI a lot earlier, literally months after they've been made available for consumption by us. We already had solutions out there that were creating value for these customers. So our speed to innovation has significantly increased because we put ourselves in a position where we can continue to grow there.
The third piece is, especially in this region, we have the deepest relationships with the customer base. This is the place where the workforce is trained in our technology. This is the place where we are essentially providing the lowest risk for anyone making investments in this region. So the strength we have with our partnerships across not just the customer base, but our channel has created a significant advantage for this company, and we're disproportionately benefiting from that.
And what about the go-to-market approach? How siloed is that approach within Software & Control as opposed to partnering and Intelligent Devices and how you're doing that.
Yes. So it's -- we have one sales organization that approaches our customers as a system. And it's very common that in a system, you have contributions from our segments, not just one. So for example, a typical -- at a higher level, a typical automation system has input devices like sensors, like push buttons, things that are sensing what's going on in the system. All of those come from Intelligent Devices. Those inputs, they get fed into a control system that is actually processing those inputs. It's also exposing data and interfacing with operators, operator decision support and operator interfaces. The networking infrastructure that's there. It's -- all of that is Software & Control.
And then once that's resolved, it gets reflected back into actual physics that have to be controlled and actuated. So things like motor control, robot control, output devices, power distribution, all of those are back into ITD. And then obviously, we have our service organization that partners with these customers sometimes in the delivery of those solutions. We're happy to partner with others that deliver the solution themselves. And then we come in at the -- after the solution is installed to manage and support that installation with Lifecycle Services. So it is very common that a particular system includes all of our offerings.
And then you're offering both software and hardware. I've heard in the past, Logix is around 50% of the mix. Talk about that other 50% and the software and hardware that sits within that.
Yes. So specifically in the Software & Control segment, the majority of our revenues are coming from hardware. The hardware includes a significant amount of embedded software. A lot of the differentiation comes from what the hardware does and what the hardware does is governed by the embedded software that's there. But the majority of that gets delivered as hardware integrated with that embedded software. And then, yes, we do have a meaningful software business.
And as I mentioned before, full stack when it comes to a production environment. So today, our software part of our portfolio is used to design production systems. So things like digital twins, things like how you program the automation. And then once the automation is in place, you have software that's used, as I mentioned, to support the operator. So visualization systems, human machine interface, operator interface, decision support there. On top of that, you have software that's used to execute production, things like our MES. They take orders and they execute and orchestrate the utilization of resources in any particular production system.
And then we obviously have software that is used to maintain these systems. So things like disaster recovery, our CMMS on how we manage work orders for maintenance organizations and not just reactive maintenance, but increasingly in preventative and predictive maintenance capabilities. So we feel pretty good about the full stack software capabilities across the spectrum there.
We'll talk about the opportunities that AI present for you, but also to address the potential challenges or threats that are out there. And so what is it that you're watching out there in terms of that software stack and what new entrants could potentially even have an opportunity at?
Yes. We -- AI is a tremendous opportunity for automation. But just to address first your point on some potential concerns there. We feel pretty strong about very durable, durable moats. And I'll point to 3 here. The first is, as I mentioned earlier, a big part of our software portfolio is deeply integrated with the embedded system, okay? So it's highly integrated. And there are many reasons for that, including the resiliency and cyber concerns and safety concerns. So you use AI, but it has to go through our software, okay? So that's one strong moat that we have there.
Another part of our software is software, as I mentioned earlier, that is running production, that's executing orders and orchestrating resources. Those are deterministic systems. Those are systems that are applied in regulated industries. They need performance and they need consistency. It is not acceptable in manufacturing for you to have outcomes that are approximately right. It's not acceptable for you to build cars or to create drugs or food that are approximately right. And they have to be consistent over time. So inherently probabilistic outcomes are unacceptable, not just not desired. They just -- they just play not useful.
And then the third moat we have is open source software that has existed for a long time. And the reality is in automation, you need a tremendous amount of domain to be able to understand what software needs to do, how it gets used. And then on top of that, the real cost in software used in production system is not much to do with the creation of the software itself, but it has to do with the life cycle management of that software. So those are pretty strong durable moats that have sustained.
But just to touch quickly on the opportunity. AI is a tremendous opportunity to do many things across the stack of an automation system. But the biggest opportunity really is in simplifying what it takes for people to consume automation, consume in the form of designing, operating and maintaining.
The single largest barrier to more automation density is the complexity, is the complexity of deploying and maintaining and supporting and AI with these virtual workers, if you will, are there to help you lower that barrier, so more automation can be used for -- in more production systems over time. So we feel very, very good about AI as a tailwind and as a significant propellant of more automation demand and across the industry.
What are you seeing in the cyber threat environment in terms of an acceleration of instances of threats, higher sophistication as people are using AI in that realm, what you're doing with your business to defend?
Yes. So there is -- we have been investing for a very long time in the resiliency and the robustness of our products. It's a significant part of our spend. It's also why I say what I said before that increasingly, these are system concerns. The reality is the cost to play in automation continues to go up. I wouldn't be surprised if you see some degree of consolidation because not only you can't compete if you're just a little piece of the system, but for you to sustain.
And a good example of that is what's about to come online in Europe with Cyber Resiliency Act, where there are specific requirements for what level of security strength your system needs to have for you to just be able to supply in an automation system. So we welcome those because they disproportionately benefit Rockwell. We built capabilities not around just the strength of our products, but also, as you've seen, capabilities around our Lifecycle Services organization and security assessments, including acquisitions we've made to enhance our ability to support our customers and frankly, bringing resiliency.
We expect that certain industries will see higher pressure to strengthen their industrial systems earlier, things like critical infrastructure, food and beverage, life sciences, and we expect that will continue to propagate, and we see that as a good thing.
And then to touch on data centers. You talked about hyperscalers increasingly adopting the industrial logic platforms from traditional -- a shift from traditional kind of DDC type of controls. Explain to us kind of what that shift means for those customers, what you're able to provide and what the revenue opportunity is like for you?
Yes. I mean this has been a very good business for us and frankly, a no-brainer value proposition to our customers. The shift is strong from traditional controls. DDC controls have been designed primarily to manage general buildings. These are things like this particular building that we're in today. And that's okay. But data centers are increasingly more critical, mission-critical operations, more like factories where you care a lot about the availability of the system.
So with our system, we have an order of magnitude greater availability. So what we call our Logix runs today 5 nines, so 99.999% availability. And you can imagine what the cost of downtime, we've always dealt with cost of downtime in any type of production system. And in data centers, the cost per minute is significant. So just on the merits of availability, Logix has been easily justified. But there are many other reasons as well.
One of them is cyber. A lot of these traditional systems, they use networks that are relatively old that don't employ capabilities like encryption even in their communications. There's also an element of performance. The certain data centers and server racks can swing in the magnitudes of megawatts in the span of a minute and you need response and you need some degree of real-time control there. And there's also a component of longevity because these industrial systems are designed for longer life than commercial technology out there. So there are many, but -- and we'll continue to see growth there.
And I think the way you framed it is data center today is a low single-digit percent of revenue for Rock. In the not-too-distant future, it could be around 5%. When you think about that growth path, is that more on the Software & Control side? Or is that more with something like Cubic on the ITD side?
Yes. So today, you can think about there's a few offerings that we provide. One of them is what I just described, Logix being used to manage the infrastructure, the building. The other strong vector we have is with our acquisition of Cubic. Cubic has a fairly innovative modular system that is used to package gear, essentially switchgear packaging technology.
To be completely transparent, we made that acquisition way before this data center boom. And we have a line of motor control centers that we participated in the market for a very long time, and that's innovative technology that has also helped us modernize and innovate in motor control center, but is strongly -- it's a great fit for data center technology there, and we've seen good growth.
And then obviously, because Logix is also there in controlling and managing the building, there are certain parts of the equipment used in building management, like things like chillers and fans and pumps that also leverage ITD technology like our drives that are used to control those systems. So it's a good amount of scope there.
Then on Software & Control margins, reached 35% in the second quarter. I think the guide embeds that it's not going to stay at that level as we move into the back half of the year, but talk about that progression as we move forward and some of the puts and takes on the margin side.
Yes. We had a stellar quarter in terms of margin performance for the whole company and of course, in Software & Control specifically. The biggest driver for the company and for the segment was really volume. So you have volume, you have really good price cost, inclusive of productivity and all the work we've been doing to drive structural cost out, whether it's on a direct cost to produce, whether it's our logistics mode, manufacturing efficiencies across our operations that are helping every segment.
So it's good productivity also in SG&A, our functional spend. So we saw good contribution from that and mix even within Software & Control, we saw good growth in Logix, as we talked about, over 20% and high single-digit growth in software. So those are higher-margin offerings within Software & Control. So it was a confluence of a lot of great things that happened, and it was a great quarter.
As we look to Q3 and Q4 and specifically Q3, we talked about increasing input cost inflation, specifically on memory chips that does disproportionately impact Software & Control. And so while we do expect to offset and mitigate those cost increases with price over time, as we mentioned, it might not be perfectly aligned in any particular quarter, especially in Q3.
And so we do think it's prudent for us not to expect that same level of perfect storm of everything going right for us in Q3. So we expect sequentially margins to be slightly lower. But for the full year, still expecting Software & Control margins to expand several hundred basis points year-over-year. So we're really on a good trajectory there.
And going through a multiyear history where there was a period of stocking and a period of destocking and now in an environment where you're comping against some of that. But moving forward, the comps will get tougher. I think expectations out there for something like mid-single-digit, high single-digit organic growth in Software & Control as we move into the back half of the year. Is that roughly aligned with the guide? Anything that you observed in that, that you would call out?
Well we talked about our expectations of low double-digit growth for the full year in Software & Control. So that implies sequential -- moderate sequential growth, and we'll see where we are. But yes, low double digits, so certainly the fastest-growing segment for the company.
Yes. At the Investor Day last year, the company outlined a $2 billion investment plans over a multiyear period of time. Talk about software and controls kind of role in that? What the opportunities are? Do you see a higher percentage of that spend as the company is looking at the multiyear investments?
Yes. Yes. So yes, we did communicate that indeed. The majority of that investment is in CapEx. And frankly, the -- a lot of that is in the U.S., and that includes investment in our people, investment in technology. We're ourselves transforming our operations into more autonomous systems. and frankly, also brick-and-mortar. So we're building new capacity as well there.
From -- the reason we're making that investment is largely in the service of continued margin expansion and customer service. We feel very strong about achieving the targets that we have already communicated. You talk about Software & Control, we have this margin corridor of 31% to 34%. We have already been in that corridor for the last 4 quarters, if you will. We haven't put the full fiscal year yet in that, but we feel pretty strong of doing that independent of this investment. And we have obviously our enterprise operating margin target of 22%. So all of this is in the spirit of fueling further margin expansion beyond that and indeed, transforming manufacturing for ourselves so we can continue.
And to your question around all of the self-help initiatives we've put in place, including our productivity, all of those items, including what we do in sourcing, what we do in transportation, logistics, what we do in more automation and reducing our cost to produce, all of those are directly applicable to Software & Control just as much. So both -- frankly, all 3 businesses, including Lifecycle Services because we have solutions that include panels and things like that, that we construct, all of the 3 segments benefit from those quite strongly.
I think maybe time to squeeze one more in, but really on capital deployment and opportunities there because you talked about there could be pockets of the market where there's an opportunity for consolidation. Rockwell has said back in the game in terms of M&A. But then also Software & Control spends a high percentage of revenue on R&D, right? And so it's the organic opportunity versus the inorganic and where are your priorities?
Yes. So R&D is the lifeblood of the company. We have full intentions to continue to innovate. I know that we run at about 8% of revenue as a company. And as you stated and correctly so, Software & Control, as you would expect, is higher than that in the teens and low teens, and we'll continue. We'll continue that investment. And in terms of acquisition, absolutely. We are very open and interested and serious about continuing to evaluate opportunities that fit in our channel, but we'll likely focus on profitable acquisitions that we can -- if not accretive, that we can make accretive in a reasonable amount of time and also acquisitions that help us continue to propel and expand share gains in frankly, in regions where we may not be as strong.
Perfect. Well, I think that brings us to the end of our time. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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Rockwell Automation — 16th Annual Wells Fargo Industrials & Materials Conference
Rockwell Automation — 16th Annual Wells Fargo Industrials & Materials Conference
Rockwell sieht beschleunigte Nachfrage in Software & Control und Intelligent Devices, getrieben von Data Center, Halbleitern und Lagerautomation.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Wachstum: Nachfrage verschiebt sich von kleinen Modernisierungen hin zu größeren Projekten in Data Center, Halbleitern und E‑Commerce/Warehouse, was die Software‑und‑Control‑Segmente überdurchschnittlich antreibt.
- Kompetenz: Rockwell betont integrierte Systemkompetenz (Hardware, embedded Software, Cloud) plus starke Channel‑Beziehungen als Wettbewerbsvorteil.
- Risiken: Kurzfristige Margenschwankungen durch Speicherchip‑Kosten; politisch/geopolitische Unsicherheit bremst einige Großinvestitionen.
🔝 Strategische Highlights
- Endmärkte: Data Center (greenfield und Retrofits), Halbleiter und Lagerautomation liefern jetzt größere Projekte; Energie (inkl. Renewables) soll high single‑digit wachsen.
- Go‑to‑Market: Ein gemeinsamer Verkaufsapparat verkauft Systemlösungen, wodurch mehrere Segmente (Intelligent Devices, Software & Control, Lifecycle Services) kombiniert werden.
- Preisstrategie: Agilere Preismechanismen (z. B. fixe Rabatte statt fixe Preise), bessere Preistransparenz und Discipline; Guidance für FY: ~250 Basispunkte Preis (100 bps Tarife, 150 bps zugrunde liegender Preis).
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Guides/Prognosen: Management hat die Full‑Year‑Erwartung für einige Endmärkte erhöht und nannte eine Unternehmens‑Leitgröße von ~7% Wachstum; Software & Control erwartet Low‑Double‑Digit‑Wachstum.
- Margen‑Signal: Software & Control erreichte Q2 ~35% Margin, Q3 wird durch Speicherchip‑Inflation belastet; für das Fiskaljahr aber mehrere hundert Basispunkte Expansion erwartet.
- Data Center‑Chance: Heute Low‑Single‑Digit‑% des Umsatzes, Zielpfad in Richtung ~5% mittelfristig; Cubic‑Akquisition liefert modularen Switchgear‑/Packaging‑Fit.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Inventare: Rockwell sagt, Distributor‑Visibility hat sich deutlich verbessert; ungewöhnliche Bestellungen werden geprüft und teils storniert; kein Hinweis auf breiten Prebuy‑Effekt.
- Projektpipeline: Management beschreibt robuste Pipeline für Data Center, Halbleiter und Warehouse; größere Projekte sichtbar, aber Endkundensicht bleibt teilweise unscharf.
- Preis vs. Chips: Analysten fragten nach Timing der Preiserhöhungen zur Kompensation steigender Speicher‑Kosten; Management will Kosten mit Preis heben, warnt aber vor Timing‑Mismatch in Quartalen (Q3‑Headwind).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Rockwell profitiert von struktureller Verschiebung zu systemischer Automation: höherwertige Software‑und‑Kontrollumsätze treiben Wachstum und Margen. Kurzfristig sind Speicherchip‑Inflation und Quartals‑Timing Risiken; mittelfristig stützen Preisagilität, integrierte Produktpalette und Data‑Center‑Opportunitäten die Ertragsstory.
Rockwell Automation — 2026 Baird Global Consumer
1. Question Answer
All right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the session for Rockwell Automation. I'm Quinn Fredrickson, Senior Research Analyst at Baird covering advanced industrial technology. Most of you are probably aware, Rockwell Automation is the largest pure-play industrial automation and digital transformation company.
With us today from the company, we have Tessa Myers, to my right here, who's the SVP of Rockwell's largest reporting segment, Intelligent Devices. And Aijana Zellner, who's Rockwell's Head of Market Strategy and IR. So Tessa is going to open up with a few comments, and then we'll swing right into Q&A.
Okay. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I thought I'd just make a few comments about the company to give you a little bit of insight overall to who we are and our focus for those of you that are both familiar with the name and where we might be new to you. We've built a more resilient and diversified Rockwell Automation over the last few years.
As you can see, our industries are quite diverse. We have a meaningful amount of our business in discrete industries, areas like automotive and semiconductor, in hybrid industries where you have both packaging and processing, discrete and processing type applications, areas like food and beverage, health and personal care, life sciences as well as a meaningful portion of our business in the process industries, areas like energy, mining as well. We've also increased the diversity of our revenue mix. And so we've added annual recurring revenue to the company. That's a combination of both Software as a Service as well as high-value managed services. It's a fast-growing part of the business. It represents over 10% of our revenue to date and it is a representation of us adding new ways to win to our capabilities.
We've also, over the last few years, redoubled our focus on operational excellence. And you can see that in how we're expanding margins of the business so far this year.
We have a range of solutions that are really broad-based, are horizontal and cover a wide range of industries. Our focus as a company is really in the production environment and how do we help manufacturing and industrial companies be more efficient and more sustainable. And -- we introduced this growth framework at the start of our fiscal year '23, and it really outlines the expectation for profitable growth and adding new ways to win to the company. It combines what we think are secular trends and growth in automation and digital transformation with our confidence in our ability to gain share and expand our served market. It has annual recurring services and software contributing to our growth and a modest contribution here over the cycle with acquisitions adding about 1 point of growth. So that is about 5% to 8% organic growth through the cycle that we expect to achieve.
We take a very intentional focus on the industries that we serve and in addition to our traditional markets in areas like automotive and food and beverage, we've added areas like data center and e-commerce and warehousing which are fast-growing industries for us today.
There are a few enabling technologies that are important for us as a business. Software-defined automation is really across the automation content that we deliver and evolving that to a more software-defined environment, artificial intelligence, and we'll talk about that a little bit. I'm sure today of how we're leveraging that and embedding it into our capabilities to add value to our customers. And integrated robotics, the combination of integrating fixed robotics into automation systems as well as autonomous mobile robots to move materials through a plant. These are all important areas of growth for us and how we are expanding the value that we are delivering to our customers.
Back in FY '23, when we introduced our growth framework, we also introduced margin targets for each of our operating segments across Intelligent Devices, Software & Control and Lifecycle services. And all of our businesses are either at or moving towards these margin ranges driven by volume, price and the work that we're doing around productivity. And we expect to move into this range and our goal is to move to and through this margin range. So with that, I'll -- I think we can start the Q&A.
Awesome. Thank you. And for the audience, any questions you can submit it to [email protected].
Aijana, maybe starting off for you. I just want to ask about the demand picture. You're coming off your March quarter where you noted some broadening out of demand. And you felt compelled to raise your core growth by a fair amount for Rockwell, I think, 3 points at the midpoint. Where are you seeing the most genuine demand inflection out there versus just easier comps? And how durable does this feel as you look out over the next several quarters?
Sure. In the first half, we did have easier comps from a year-over-year standpoint, really for the whole company for certain industries. But with that said, we did see a very strong performance in Q2 across a number of industries, across discrete hybrid and process end markets.
What really surprised us and outperformed were really three or four industries. So data center, semiconductor, e-comm and warehouse and energy. And while other industries performed well and grew including automotive and did great and actually better than we expected, we didn't see a market change there in terms of CapEx activity. You still see a lot of projects being focused on productivity, optimization and efficiency. But the markets that I just mentioned earlier, they are seeing quite a bit of project activity. And so we felt comfortable and confident increasing our outlook.
Data center business more than doubled for us in Q2. It's not a big part of our revenue yet. It's low single digits. That's sort of our total revenue, but it's growing strong double digits. We did increase our outlook for semiconductor for the year and for e-commerce and warehouse automation that was already slated to grow the fastest. And we do see some opportunity in our energy market, which is about 15% of our total revenue.
So it is encouraging to see a broadening of this demand across more industries. However, we're not seeing a broad-based CapEx recovery yet. So if you look at some of the big markets for Rockwell, food and beverage, 20% of total revenue, automotive about 10% of total revenue. We're seeing some activity. We did see some program releases, great wins, but not quite the CapEx activity that is really needed to change our guide even further.
So there's some opportunity out there, but the way we're looking at right now is 7% top line growth at the midpoint. And if there are some more program releases in other areas of the business, then that could take us to the higher end of our [indiscernible].
What do you think, based on talking with customers, what's holding back in some of those markets where you're not yet seeing that broader release of CapEx? Is it just geopolitical uncertainty, interest rates? Just what do we need to see to get that broader unlock?
Clearly, trade uncertainty has been getting back for quite some time now. The increasing geopolitical volatility is not helping. The input cost inflation is coming with that is not helping. And of course, everyone is watching consumer health in terms of the end markets that they're serving. So there are a lot of elements out there and the environment needs more stability to be able to really feel confident with the bigger, larger CapEx outlays.
With that said, as I mentioned earlier, there are industries that are investing even today and are -- and it's both brownfield upgrades, but also greenfield as well.
And Tessa, just diving in a little bit more into your segment. The product side of the business, much of which is captured in Intelligent Devices, did see a significant step-up in the second quarter. And I think you called out some strategic AMR wins. But can we talk a little bit more about what drove the inflection there? How much of it was maybe end market inflections versus new products?
Yes. So we had solid growth in Intelligent Devices in Q2. We were up 9% organically. In that business, we have a wide range of automation products that are part of Intelligent Devices. In the business, our motion control business, so high-precision motion control, our input and output devices the kind of the inputs that you wire sensors into and run logic and then trigger an output for the machine to perform an action, the I/O portfolio as well as our sensing and safety portfolio where we have a range of smart sensors and industrial safety technologies.
So we saw broad growth across those product categories in particular. Those are areas that we have a customer base in terms of machine builders. And so we saw a pickup in our machine builder business related to those product lines. And we also introduced some new products. We introduced the next-generation IO platform at the start of this fiscal year, and we're seeing good adoption in that as well.
We also have a part of the Intelligent Devices business that does go into data centers. And so that's our Cubic power infrastructure products in our industrial control products. And so we saw data center as a contributor to the growth in Intelligent Devices in the quarter.
And I would say lastly, you mentioned it, our autonomous mobile robot business, automotors, we saw nice growth in the quarter and into the first half of the year.
Okay. Maybe you can -- can we take a step back and frame up your broader strategy to address production logistics a little bit more? Maybe just what enables you to win if you can describe your logistics portfolio, why it might be differentiated?
We really launched a focus on what we call production logistics at the start of 2024. In production logistics is the concept of fully automating end-to-end material movement throughout a manufacturing plant. So today, there's a lot of labor that still goes into manually delivering materials to a line and taking those materials away -- finished goods away warehousing and distribution environment.
And so we saw a significant opportunity for our customers to really automate that process. And so production logistics is a combination of intelligent material movement technology, so that's integrated robotics, autonomous mobile robots, independent cart technology, which is really kind of smart conveyance systems. Adding that to operations management and fleet management software that helps to plan, schedule, execute work orders in a manufacturing environment, and the consulting and engineering capabilities to really wrap around that to help customers understand where are the biggest opportunities for productivity and help them implement that solution.
And so one of the biggest challenges in automating the full end-to-end material movement is the integration of mobile equipment into the production environment and integrating it into the fixed automation and fixed assets that you have. And so we really felt like there was an opportunity adding autonomous mobile robots to our portfolio for us to really enable customers with this end-to-end capability and really break down that barrier of adoption to make it easier for them to implement.
How about within CPG, I think you've mentioned or Blake mentioned on the conference call some newer offerings there. Could you maybe share what some of those newer offerings that you're having success with are? And I think it's specifically geared more towards midsized customers. So are you seeing your share rising with midsized customers?
Yes. I mean, food and beverage is part of our consumer packaged goods end market right? And so food and beverage, home and personal care, and we have very strong market share, strong moat there with our solution, given it's a hybrid end market.
Specifically, when we talk about mid-market, we have a great distribution channel. We have distribution -- distributors who are selling to those small and medium businesses in the U.S., and it's a great opportunity for us to amplify our business. We -- of course, they sell our core offerings, our largest controllers, our drives, our on-machine devices, sensors. But increasingly, we're selling a lot more digital solutions and our cloud-native data software.
If you think about whether it's Plex or Fiix software. So it's our cloud-native MES production operation management software. It's a great offering for a smaller customer who does not want to employ a large IT set, does not want to have the cost of managing the software themselves. And for them to be able to have -- to deploy a piece of software that's modular. It's quick to realize time to value much faster and it's managed by someone else, and it can be updated instantaneously and managed by someone else, that we're seeing great adoption. That's one example.
AMRs is another example in terms of CPG, as Tessa mentioned, autonomous mobile robots and is providing a lot more of that autonomous material movement in an environment where it's not easy to get labor. It's not that easy to hire, train and retain labor and the labor cost is going up. So we're seeing a lot of different ways to play in that market.
And we -- I would just say automating production logistics really started I would say automotive was the first to adopt. And over the first half of this year, we've seen large-scale implementations with CPG customers. So really the diversification of the industries that are moving in this area included CPG over this past first half of the year.
Okay. We haven't discussed AI as much specifically yet. So maybe just to start off, if we could zoom out for the benefit of investors not as familiar with Rockwell and speak to how Rockwell has already incorporated AI into certain products.
Sure. Well, you may be surprised to know, we've been doing machine learning, which correlates with AI for quite some time, really focused around process optimization. And so how do you increase yield and throughput and quality of a manufacturing process really embedded in the control system.
And if you think about AI from a manufacturing and an industrial perspective, I think an easy way to think about it is there's the life cycle of an automation system. So what happens when you're designing an automation system, you're testing and you're deploying it into an industrial environment. When you operate your production assets and when you're maintaining the systems that you have. And so we've actually done quite a bit across that entire life cycle in terms of embedding AI capabilities into the products that we deliver and the software that we deliver to customers and embedding AI and leveraging that to enhance and further differentiate and create value in our products, makes it easier for our customers to adopt.
So on the design side, we were first to market with a cloud-based design software environment. That's allowed us to innovate at a really rapid pace in terms of adding AI capabilities. And so we've added AI agents to enable automation designers to evaluate automation code to develop code using AI to make it much more efficient to design and to test, to simulate and then deploy automation systems into a manufacturing environment.
On the operations side, we've built a number of use cases that are used in the production process to improve how the process is operating. So whether that's process optimization, getting the right combination of temperature, material, flow in order to optimize the process and increase the quality and output, inline quality inspections, so we launched a product called Vision AI, which is quality inspection. AI. There's still a lot of manual effort that goes into evaluating products and their quality, taking samples and so the ability to do that in line and analyze the existing quality and predict the quality of a product is an important use case.
And then on the maintenance side, we've done quite a bit of work around predictive maintenance. So in our fixed CMMS software, we've added an asset risk predictor. So based on the historical failure modes of an asset, we can predict when maintenance needs to occur.
And Guardian AI is an application where taking the internal data from a variable frequency drive. We can monitor the electrical signals and we can indicate whether that there's an issue with a bearing or a motor preventing downtime and alerting a maintenance team that they need to perform maintenance on operation.
So a wide range of capabilities that are already available today in the market, and we're continuing to build out new use cases for customers moving forward.
What would you say the barriers to broader adoption of AI for your customers are? And I mean, do any of these factors increase your moat or they open you up more towards competitive friction at all?
I think the most industrial companies are generally pragmatic, right? And so they want to ensure that there's a good return on investment for them on a project that they might do. And so I think as we prove out these use cases, we're making it easy to understand the to be able to implement these solutions and get the value quickly. And so I think that, that proof in these use cases that we're building, I think, has been really valuable for customers to understand the return opportunity that they have.
And I think, generally, I view AI as an accelerator to automation because it's making the adoption of automation much easier for our customers.
Can you speak to within software, specifically investors are very focused on the defensibility. So could you maybe expand upon your offerings -- Agentic AI offerings across your software stack, where you are in that journey and how defensible it is for you?
Absolutely. I mean, at the end of the day, everything we do, as Tessa mentioned, is tied to the production automation. The way we approach how we work with the customer, it's really across the whole automation life cycle, from designing a system or designing a new plant to putting it in and then producing it for a long time and then eventually -- and maintaining it and eventually once it becomes old and obsolete you upgrade to the next system.
So the way we approach whether it's software, hardware services, we want to make sure that we develop offerings for our customers that are easy to use, easy to deploy and easy to maintain it. And if you look at our software, software was about 10% of our total revenue. And the majority of it is very much tied to these and embedded and type of integrated with all of these stages of the life cycle.
And everything we do is mission-critical, meaning it's important to have -- it's important not to have any latency, security is paramount, this process interacting with operators and people on the plant floor.
The way we look at our software -- specifically to software development organically and inorganically is it needs to have a moat. It needs to accelerate and it needs to help customers get to their outcomes faster. For example, as Tessa mentioned earlier, the design software, our cloud-native design software that we were the first ones to develop. It's now perfect for Agentic AI to help our customers, developers interact with the system, design systems in a matter of hours. It could have taken -- it used to take weeks to deploy a system. You can do that in a matter of hours, a matter of days, much faster customer gets to value. And then they're producing, we're helping them in process optimization with our software. And so we think we are very differentiated.
Our focus on software was different than some of our competitors. Some of our peers are really focused on other areas of the technology stack, on the product design or chip design or computer-aided design, we focus on manufacturing and production environment. And -- we think we've built a very differentiated offering.
We always look at opportunities to accelerate that, whether it's organically or inorganically. And we always look for potential disruptors. But as Tessa mentioned, we see that as an opportunity to really scale and help customers adopt more offers across the global fleet.
SP33039678 And I believe it was high single-digit software ARR growth in 2Q? Just where are you seeing the most traction right now?
Yes. ARR, our annual recurring revenue is about 10% of our total revenue. It's a combination of recurring software and recurring services. Recurring software has been growing high single digits, and it's really driven by our SaaS software. So Plex, manufacturing execution system software and Fiix, our compute and CMMS software. So that's been growing nicely and a combination of really across many industries. We talk about automotive, CPG, life sciences, it's really across the whole suite.
The recurring services piece has been decelerating in the last few quarters, and we talked about really customers grappling with a lot of trade uncertainty and increasing input cost and volatility, they are pushing out some of the important but maybe not as urgent services to the right of it as they reprioritize their spend near term, but we do see continued demand for our services, whether it's cybersecurity services, safety services, remote monitoring and things like that.
And does that services in the guide? Are you assuming that weakness persists? Or do you assume that, that there's any recovery there?
We continue to expect high single-digit growth in ARR for the full year, and we do expect soft -- the recurring software piece to grow faster than services in the near term, yes.
We should spend a minute talking about margins because that's been a clear standout as well. I think ITD and really Rockwell overall, both had really excellent margin expansion in the quarter, incremental margins over 50%.
And Tessa, maybe can you give us a sense in ITD specifically where you've been seeing the most opportunity in productivity and also what would some of the remaining bigger priorities beyond this year be for your segment to continue to drive productivity?
Yes. I would say that operational excellence that's driving margin expansion is really a company-wide focus. And so all three of our business segments as well as all of the functions in our supply chain have been collaborating together to really drive the margin expansion that we've seen.
And we have really taken a holistic approach as we think about productivity and margin expansion in the business in ITD. Clearly, it's a combination of volume, price and productivity. That's driving the margin expansion that we've seen.
I think productivity is an important lever for us. And as a company, we've really been looking into at our operations and where we have the best opportunities to drive productivity. So that's from the products and their designs and how do we design them for.
For cost and manufacturability. How do we negotiate and work with our suppliers to drive productivity within our supply chain. What are the indirect spend that we have in terms of services and materials that support the operations, logistics, how we deliver products to customers and driving productivity there. And we did have -- structurally, we looked at the organization and did take some structural action prior to this year that's having an impact as well.
As we move forward, there's a few areas of focus for us. And really, as an organization, we're focused on a sustainable pipeline of productivity actions and projects that will drive ongoing improvements in terms of productivity. I think some big areas for us this year are around product design changes that will drive alternative designs that can drive cost of the direct materials that we use.
There's ongoing manufacturing efficiency projects, investments in automation and AI in our own manufacturing facilities that are making us more efficient and certainly logistics. We think there's room to grow in terms of driving productivity from a logistics perspective.
In-sourcing is an area that we're focused on, where are there materials, subassemblies that we've traditionally outsourced that we can drive cost and margin improvements by bringing those in-house. And so my expectation, we'll execute projects this year, but we're going to continue to focus on productivity as a driver for margin expansion and expect to maintain a strong pipeline of opportunities from this year and moving forward.
And maybe if you could touch on price costs as well. I think it was positive in the quarter. Can you speak to what you're seeing on items like memory, transportation, raw material pressures and just your confidence in being able to offset those in the back half with price?
Certainly, we are guiding to 250 basis points of price in total for the year, of which 150 basis points come from underlying price and about 100 are expected to come from tariff price. On the input cost inflation side, no doubt, we can all see that the cost of memory chips is escalating. And so we are expecting sequentially to see higher cost on that front.
We don't have as much exposure to raw materials, but we do have some. And so there are some other input costs that also slated to go up. But for us, memory chips is the biggest one. And we feel confident in our ability to mitigate that and offset that cost. We talked about that price and cost and offsetting it might not all align perfectly well in any particular given quarter. But over time, we -- as we've demonstrated in the past, are planning to offset it.
Maybe just in the last remaining minute, if we could touch on capital allocation. You've outlined a $2 billion investment over the next 5 years, 80% is in CapEx, 20% in OpEx. Could you give us maybe a breakdown of what you're investing in and what those investments should enable for you?
Yes. As you said, largely, the investment is CapEx, and it's a combination of investments in our manufacturing capabilities and our talent and in our digital infrastructure. So included in that is investments in automation and AI in our own manufacturing facilities to drive operational improvements and efficiency.
It does include brick-and-mortar in the U.S. with a new greenfield that we announced that's going to be located in Wisconsin. So the largest beneficiary of that investment is really going to be in our U.S. operations. And an area of focus is really around our talent and our digital infrastructure and, ensuring that we're making the right investments to tune the business for the future and the new offerings that we have and to support continued growth of the business as well.
Great. Well, management will host a breakout session following this. It will be in Aster Suite 2. But please join me in thanking the team for being here.
Thank you.
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Rockwell Automation — 2026 Baird Global Consumer
Rockwell Automation — 2026 Baird Global Consumer
Rockwell betont Diversifikation, wieder anziehende Nachfrage in Spezialsegmenten, steigende wiederkehrende Umsätze und Margenprogramme.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Fokus: Diversifikation in Diskrete, Hybrid- und Prozessindustrien plus Ausbau wachstumsstarker Bereiche (Data Center, Halbleiter, E‑Commerce).
- Wiederkehrend: Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) & Managed Services >10% des Umsatzes; Software/SaaS treibt Stabilität.
- Profitwachstum: Management strebt 5–8% organisches Wachstum durch den Zyklus und weitergehende Margenverbesserungen durch Produktivität an.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Produktionslogistik: End‑to‑end‑Angebot für Materialflüsse (integrierte Robotik, autonome Mobile Robots, Fleet/Operations‑Software, Engineering), adressiert Brownfield und Greenfield.
- AI‑Integration: KI/ML über Lebenszyklus: Cloud‑Design‑Tools mit Agentic‑Funktionen, Vision AI für Inline‑Qualität, Predictive Maintenance und Guardian AI für Antriebsüberwachung.
- Software‑Moat: Cloud‑native Designplattform und SaaS (Plex, Fiix) erhöhen Eintrittsbarrieren; Software ist mission‑critical, wächst high‑single‑digits.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Nachfrageverschiebung: Deutliche Beschleunigung in Data Center (Q2 >100% YoY, von kleinem Basiswert), Halbleiter, E‑Commerce/Warehouse und Energie.
- Produktnews: Breite Adoption der Next‑Gen I/O‑Plattform und beschleunigtes AMR‑Momentum (Automotors).
- Kapitalplan: $2 Mrd. Investitionen über 5 Jahre (≈80% CapEx, 20% OpEx) inkl. neuer Fertigung in Wisconsin.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Nachhaltigkeit der Nachfrage: Management sieht echte Inflektionen in einigen Segmenten, warnt aber vor fehlender breiter CapEx‑Erholung in Kernmärkten (CPG, Automotive).
- Bremsfaktoren: Geopolitische Unsicherheit, Input‑Kosten (insb. Speicherchips), und schwächere Endkonsumenten‑Signale halten größere Projekte zurück.
- Margen & Preis: Management nennt 250 Basispunkte Preis für das Jahr (150 bps strukturell, 100 bps Tarife); Produktivitätsprogramme, Insourcing und Design‑Änderungen sollen Kosten kompensieren.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Rockwell zeigt strategische Diversifikation, wachsendes wiederkehrendes Geschäftsmodell und handfeste Margenhebel. Chancen liegen in Data Center, Halbleiter, AMR und Software‑Monetarisierung; Hauptrisiken bleiben makrobedingte CapEx‑Zurückhaltung und steigende Komponentenpreise.
Rockwell Automation — Wolfe Research 19th Annual Global Transportation & Industrials Conference
1. Question Answer
Great. We'll get started. Again, very pleased to welcome Rockwell Automation to the stage, and Christian Rothe, CFO; Matt Fordenwalt, SVP of Lifecycle Services; and Aijana from Investor Relations as well.
So Christian, I thought maybe open it up with just top level -- top-of-mind issues for you and perhaps we can get into Q&A.
Yes, absolutely. We can -- so top-of-mind issues for us, really strong Q2. Frankly, we felt good going into the quarter. I think the quarter itself outperformed what we were expecting and it outperformed really across the board. All of our segments came in quite nicely on the top line. Lifecycle was probably closer to what we had expected on the top line, but actually outperformed our expectations on the bottom line. So the end result was a really strong flow-through profitability, great performance on the EPS side, incremental margins that were really strong for Rockwell and allowed us to have more confidence and so we raised our guide. So the raise of our guide was a full 3 points on the organic sales line. So it went from a midpoint of 4% to a midpoint of 7%, and we took our EPS number up by a full $1 at the midpoint. So feel pretty good about how the first half shaped up. We obviously got a full second half that we have to go get, but I feel like the setup is good.
Great. That's a perfect way to set up. I do want to come back to the trading conditions and the way you're seeing the world. But I thought it would be good to step back and just kind of focus on what you've done and the changes that are underway in the 2 years, more or less 2 years you've been as CFO. I think you came in with a mission to really try and operationalize some of the way that Rockwell goes to market and some of the products, pricing, cost structure. So maybe just talk about what you've accomplished, what needs to be accomplished?
Yes. So I think the thing about Rockwell is that the organization, we started with -- the company has got over 100 years of history. Our technology is arguably the most ubiquitous technology in the industrial manufacturing world in the United States, in particular, really strong loyal customer base, a really good margin profile at its core with our technologies. And so to take that and say, "You know what, we've got the next level that we can do as an organization." And all the different levers that are available to be able to do that, they're really all there for Rockwell. That is we have pricing power, we have a really strong channel that can even do more for us, we have a really good relationship with machine builders and system integrators, but there can be more there.
We're finding areas and applications for our technology that we knew were there, but the market is starting to adopt more in things like data center. Then operational excellence-wise, we have more that we can do in our factories in our own operations to bring more automation and ultimately, autonomy to our operations. And so we're on that journey now, too, and we're seeing that with good expansion on gross margin. At the same time, we just went through -- in 2024, went through a fairly large cost reduction process, which included some headcount reductions. So we were starting at a really solid base from our spend levels. And -- but we feel like we're in a position to hold that in check. So we're getting really good leverage on the P&L. So it really -- it's a lot of different factors that are all coming together. It starts with having an amazing product and really good relationships with customers and then taking that and building off of it to drive really great profitability.
Okay. If you had to think about what are the 1 or 2 single biggest drivers of further improvements, what would those be?
Yes. For me, it's always volume, right? Volume solves everything, right? So to the extent we can get volume, that's the #1 driver. The #2 one for us, I think we've shown over the last couple of years that we're pretty good at the productivity play now, and we're continuing to enhance those activities. So maybe I'll set that one aside and just say that I do think to take our business to the next level, it's about making the right investments that have a long-term ROI to position us for kind of that next stage of not just top line growth, but also next stage of profitability.
Okay. That's great. And when I first picked up Rockwell, eons ago...
I heard 21 years ago, is that right?
21 years ago. Yes.
21 years ago. That's great.
Is it literally a lifetime. Certainly a good career to the full. But I mean, Rockwell is always a first-quartile margin company. And certainly, during sort of the period around COVID and supply chain, a lot of companies really kind of stepped up on margins, and you guys fell back. Maybe just talk about what happens? And does that mean there's a lot more catch-up potential for Rockwell potentially?
Yes. There were a couple of factors that happened during that time frame for -- we did a number of transactions. Those transactions were of a collection of businesses that we really love. They're great. They are new ways for us to win. It gives some real strength to our product offering, our overall offering with our customers and especially in the production environment. But a lot of those businesses were earlier stage than what you would normally want. That is the profitability level was not strong. And so that collection of transactions were somewhat dilutive to our margins. That held our margin in check during that time frame.
On top of that, we also were adding more headcount. We were spending more. We were positioning ourselves for an automation renaissance, if you would, and that didn't materialize. There was a lot of stock up that happened in the channel during that time frame. And of course, the destock hurts. It hurts for everybody when that happens. And so that allowed us to think about the rightsizing of our organization and our spend levels. And so -- yes, we do recognize that there is a -- the margin profile for Rockwell over that kind of decade -- and we've talked about this, that decade time frame, margins were relatively flat, whereas the rest of the industrial world, there was some pretty good expansion. And so we see an opportunity for us to definitely expand those margins over the long term.
Okay. That's great. And then before we get into sort of the guidance increase, et cetera, and cycles and all that good stuff, you did sort of talk about tease out this sort of automation cycle and accelerating growth, et cetera. We do get these bouts of enthusiasm around automation, aging workforce, productivity, et cetera. What's kind of the current setup? How is Rockwell positioned for the next 3, 5 years? Are you expecting 6% to 9% growth, 5% to 8% organic, 1 point from acquisitions? Or do you think it's going to be better than that? I mean how are you positioned right now for that?
Yes. So we have a growth algorithm that we put in place in 2023. It talks about kind of 5% to 8% organic growth with another point added on from acquisitions. And that's made up of everything from what's happening with the general macro environment as well as market share gains, continued growth with ARR. We're signed up for that. And so -- and again, that's a CAGR, multiyear kind of mid-cycle to mid-cycle. We started off a little bit in the hole. So we've got some room to make up there. Q2, Q1 were a good start towards that, but we've got some more space to go there. So as far as what's going to happen over the next 3 to 5 years, I think we'll have to wait and see about it, but we like the momentum we're bringing right now.
Okay. That's great. So you mentioned volumes is the biggest single driver of improved margins and performance. So it does feel like you're starting to see that volume pick up right now. And obviously, the second half of last year, we saw very attractive growth, but much more by easy comps. And now it feels like basically there's some real growth if that's the way to put it. You've got -- you've earned a reputation as a pretty conservative CFO, I think, rightly. To raise guidance by 3 points in one single quarter is quite something. So just maybe talk about what happens? What gave you the confidence that what we're not -- what we're seeing is not a flash in the pan, that this is more durable.
Yes. So our initial guide for the year at that 4% midpoint, that was really taking what we saw in the second half of last year and saying, okay, well, we know we've got some easier comps maybe in the first half, but acknowledging that we weren't fully seeing a really good ramp, and so that's where the 4% came from. We started to see a really nice sequential ramp as we kind of exited Q4 and went into Q1 and then into Q2, and there was pretty good conversion on that. On top of that, that happened with more on the product side of the business, which allows us to convert a lot more quickly.
So some of that had to do with just the performance that we had in the first half gave us -- there was already an amount that we had to build in because we had already outperformed. And then the remainder was saying, look, what we saw in development in Q2 and the very early part in Q3 would say, we feel like there's still another movement up that's happening, and so we did build it in. But I don't take offense to being called conservative, prudent, anything like that. I wear it as a badge of honor.
No, high complement, actually. And obviously, you've got really good visibility on channel inventory sell-in versus sell-through. Not so much on the machine tool builder side, but maybe just talk about that. Are we seeing a restocking cycle here? Or inventory is still quite balanced there?
Yes. I think we feel like things are really balanced right now. That is -- if you go back before the supply chain crisis, so you have to go back to the 2019 time frame and really the 50 years before that, Rockwell hadn't seen a destock/restock cycle before in our business at all. And so we feel like inventory levels in our channel can be relatively stable over a long period of time, and there doesn't have to be a restock. So right now, what we're spending a lot of time on is trying to make sure that there is not a restock happening.
And my team can attest to the fact that I'm fairly belligerent when it comes to if we see something that looks like it's -- there's a stock up that's happening. We want to make sure we're aggressive about it because we don't need to see it. Now that doesn't mean that we don't have project activity that people have to put stock in place to get ready for those projects and stage. That's okay. But yes, so we're looking at those data points as far as overall inventory level, especially price adjusted going back to 2019 levels. We're fine there.
Distributor demand that turns into demand on Rockwell, we want that to be 1:1. We're in that ballpark, too. So we feel good about that. We're -- as you mentioned, the machine builder side is harder, but we do have a lot of interaction with them. We do survey them. It feels like their stocking levels are in a good spot, too. So that is we -- especially compared to where they were in '23, we feel like we're okay there. And so as opposed to maybe some others at this conference that do talk about the restock cycle, we're trying to keep it in check.
That's great. Matt, I do want to come to you in a second, touch on your business. Coming back to the machine tool side. We're seeing really strong order growth for the Japanese machine tool builders where we have really good data. Are we seeing a similar trend for the European machine tool builders?
Yes. We've had growth coming out of the Italy, in particular; Germany was a little bit behind, but I think we're at 5 quarters now having year-over-year growth with those customers. And you're seeing it in our European numbers, for example, were 9% growth organically in Q2 year-over-year. That was up against an easier comp. But at the same time, a lot of that's being driven by what's happening with those machine builders. So yes, it's good to see that. And recognize that it's a sale for us into Europe, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's where the machine is destined.
Right. And that'd be more PLC-centric sales?
There's attachment as well, but...
No, it's our entire offering. So you have -- on machine, you have intelligent devices, you have PLC, you have our Edge software, you've got [indiscernible] Optix, Emulate3D simulation, emulation. So it's really -- it's pretty broad.
Okay. That's great. Thanks, Aijana. Matt, your business is a bit longer cycle, more product-oriented. So maybe talk about what you're seeing from customers in terms of CapEx intentions, product pipelines, et cetera.
Sure. Across most industries we serve, we see a little bit of, obviously, geopolitical instability and some uncertainty associated with trade. So we're seeing capital projects being delayed or broken up a little bit. So the project sizes tend to be a little bit smaller in the short term. I think there's a balancing that's happening that we've seen in the bigger buckets what we call shoring, which would be mega greenfield, natural greenfield, semicon, data center, life science are really starting to percolate. My business doesn't participate directly from a labor standpoint on the data center side or the semicon side. So we're really focused on the food and bev, auto, things of that nature.
So from a capital standpoint, a little constrained, and that's when we talked about at earnings a little bit as we're seeing green shoots across, good product demand, but that capital hasn't been going on a full release cycle. But our funnels are very healthy, project quoting activity is very healthy. It's just a delayed decision-making process that we're faced with.
And what do you think unlocks that uncertainty? I mean it feels like we're in a bit more stability than we were last year, but that's not saying much. Do you think we need more stability here? Or...
Listen, everyone who's an industry leader and a leader eventually has to make a decision about their business. Investment has to unlock at some point because otherwise, competitive pressures, the pursuit of improving yield, improving quality, it's a competitive marketplace. So more stability, I think, in trade. I think some of the geopolitical things need to resolve as well just because people need to understand the cost basis of their projects.
Okay. Your segment is called Lifecycle Services. And we don't normally associate Rockwell with services. So maybe just talk about kind of how the model is evolving in services and what -- how that can play out?
So Lifecycle Services is a full life cycle business, meaning we meet customers where they're at. It could be designing a new plant, a new production line. So we engage them early with consulting resources about how to create an autonomous operation. We can design, build, help them operate and maintain that facility, that line, that machine. So our services are architected for be it our higher-end consulting to engage earlier in the entire cycle, it could be on our project engineering, through our partner network as well to scale out a rollout. But a large part of the business also is on that operate and maintain side, where we are selling service contracts to help our customers be more secure, more resilient and more productive. So if you think about the mixture of projects and contracts, that's really what this business is about, either creating the installed base in the market through the professional services and engineering services or expanding the entire value proposition of why a customer has invested in automation in the first place with our service contracts.
Obviously, growth has been moving up to the right nicely. ARR has been decelerating a little bit here. I think 6% was the number last quarter. Maybe just talk about what's been caused that deceleration and confidence in getting back to that 10% level?
Yes. Overall, ARR was a little bit above 6% last quarter. We're not satisfied with that. Our software offerings were in the high single digits, which was right along where we thought would be. On the service contract side, it was more a little bit around mid-single digits. A couple of factors happen there. OpEx is constrained in the markets. But the real indicator of success for us is we are getting more and more customers under contract. So our customer contract base is expanding. Maybe on a pure dollar standpoint, we've had a little bit of headwind there from some OpEx optimization as, again, customers are faced with input cost challenges, OpEx a little constrained, productivity challenges as they're looking.
But our algorithm hasn't changed. Our goal is to get every contract -- every customer in our installed base under contract. We then work with them to move them to a managed service environment, which allows us to deliver more value to them. It's actually more accretive margin for us or use our digital insights, our AI capabilities to address that cyber, that resiliency, that productivity, which is a lot easier for us to renew. So I'm pretty confident, given the contract base is continuing to expand, that algorithm will kick in and allow us to continue that upward momentum of growth.
Okay. That's great. Any questions from the audience for the team? So put your hand up. No, okay, great. Maybe, Christian, back to you. Rockwell tends not to provide intra-quarter commentary and Aijana give me the BDI here. But I thought I'd give you the opportunity to do any color in terms of what you're seeing right now. And you talk about the sequential ramp through the first half of the year. Anything to say?
Yes. We -- you're right, we don't -- we tend not to give any intra-quarter commentary. And we're only a couple of years -- or a couple of weeks [indiscernible] from our Q2 call. And so as far as the cadence goes, it's no different than what we had talked about on the earnings call.
Just going to check. Then...
Fair enough. I want to see if we're going to break some headlines here.
No, no, no, exactly right. Or break something. On the end markets, I've been quite pleasantly surprised by the continued strength in warehouse and e-commerce. I know there's a bit of data center in the mix as well, but maybe just talk about that specifically and the sustainability of that trends.
Yes. e-com and warehouse automation has been a great market for us. It's been growing strong double digits for many, many quarters now. And it's really -- it's a compilation of different businesses within that, right? And all of them are actually firing on a lot of cylinders. So one part is the e-commerce part. So the e-commerce player and the ecosystem that supports the player, we have really good business there, a combination of some new fulfillment centers and optimization of brownfields. You have also then parcel companies. As you know, they are investing in automation and productivity, a lot of outdated warehouses and sortation facilities, lots of labor cost issues and labor union negotiations. And so there's a lot of drive to automate. And we're nowhere near done. There's a lot of -- the network is outdated and they need to upgrade.
And then you have another set of customers, basically traditional retailers, grocery stores, any company that has warehouses, and they need to automate that, too. And so there's a lot of out there that can be retrofitted, and it's a great business for us. And then finally, we do have a piece of our data center business that falls into that e-com and warehouse automation business, and that's really through our power distribution business through our Cubic acquisition. And so all of them have been growing nicely.
We are -- we did increase our outlook for the full year, guiding to 20% growth now. We think there is durable demand. I mean if you look at the consumer preferences, the need for flexibility, the need for automation and also the labor scarcity part, we think we're in a good position there. Certainly, data center part is a great business for us. We talked about it. It's a combination of our power distribution business but also our controllers, our Logix, PLCs. And with a lot of the need with the AI workloads and the need for a lot more robust, resilient and secure data centers, that's where there's this market shift and customer need shift from commercial controls, DDC to industrial-grade controls. And this is where Logix, our controllers, is a perfect fit. And that's been contributing to our Logix growth as well, including in Q2. And so we get to play opportunistically in this great market with our offerings, and we see that business growing strong double digits.
Okay. That's great. And then we met with your team at MODEX, the warehouse logistics show. And one of the themes, not just from Rockwell, but from other companies was AI tools are actually helping to accelerate investments, lowering ROI -- raising ROIs, lowering time to decision. Is that something you're seeing more broadly across the portfolio?
We do, and we see it through the entire life cycle. Clearly, we talked about, on the design phase, how it improves your productivity. You get to market much faster, you can design a system or line or manufacturing cell much faster with our proprietary GenAI, a lot less coding, much more natural language instruction. That's great. And then you get to the run time, the actual production where the majority of the life cycle of our customers is. You get to produce, you don't want any unplanned downtime. And that's where AI is fantastic for that continues in-process optimization.
And so we have offerings of LogixAI, GuardianAI, VisionAI. So we help our customers use their existing installed base of our offerings, overlay these AI applications and drive outcomes. And so that run time to help them continue to optimize. And then at some point, when they need to migrate, upgrade, how do you do it seamlessly. And of course, we all know that there's this whole change from predictive maintenance to prescriptive maintenance and AI is all over that. So our approach is very practical, very pragmatic. It's at every layer of the tech stack, and we help our customers utilize their existing installed base as much as they can to drive that benefit. At some point, they will need to upgrade to newer offerings to be able to handle more compute power and more security. But we think we're very well positioned, and we're using it internally for our development, software development for our functional capabilities as well.
That's great. Disruption. Let's talk about kind of how the market is evolving, and so you touched on that, Aijana. But there's -- again, as long as I've covered Rockwell, there's always been these concerns of disruption, technology disruption. And now you've got potential AI start-ups. You've got Bezos apparently raising $100 billion to accelerate 4.0 and humanoids roaming around the factory floors, et cetera. I mean, how do you think about how this market evolves the next 5, 10 years?
We take a lot of our competitors very seriously. And we do look at all of the technology and the potential disruptive technology that could be there. And we look at what could enable us, what could disrupt us and where do we need to partner, acquire, develop. So we look at that really decade out. When you look at what's been happening more recently with AI and SaaS-pocalypse or some of the other dislocations, if you understand the system and where Rockwell plays, the majority of our software is very much embedded and tightly integrated with the physical systems, physical mechanical systems that are moving things, that are closing the loop, that are interacting with actual process.
The rest of our software sits in very mission-critical applications where regulated industries, whether you're interacting with people, safety is paramount. You don't have any -- you can't have any latency or any hallucination or anything like that or deviation from the deterministic path. So we have a really good moat. We have hardware, software and services that are greatly integrated. We look at AI and what's happening there as an enabler. We use a lot of foundational models and a lot of areas there, and we actually add our IP to drive our offerings and help our customers.
So we feel good about it. And in fact, when you look at the type of data that's flowing through our controllers, the billions of transactions that go through our MES software, that's the most valuable kind of data because it's going through the Logix. It's actually -- it has the most context. It has the most information that's so valuable for training, and that data is not available for the public domain, right? It's not available for training for others. And so we feel good about where we are, but we don't -- we're not complacent, and we are continuing to innovate. In fact, we are launching more and more offerings, including AI-enabled offerings and the pace of innovation and NPI has only been accelerating.
Okay. That's great. I've got 5 minutes left, so there's 3 more topics I want to touch on. Matt, back to you. The unwinding of the Sensia JV with Schlumberger or SLB, what's called now. How -- number one, how does that reposition your business? And then second, maybe just give us a bit of color in terms of what you're seeing in North American oil and gas right now?
Sure. So April 1, we dissolved the joint venture with SLB, amicable dissolution. We both took the aspects of the contributed businesses back in. So within Rockwell, our process automation expertise, domain experts in oil and gas, primarily upstream, midstream, rejoined my organization. So think about project deployment capabilities across the globe, be it North America, Middle East, Asia, Latin America. So we're really excited to have that project capability back in-house.
We've made advancements in our product portfolio, be it in process safety applications, which this domain expertise and project delivery capability allows us to approach every major producer across the world with modernization of their oil platforms as well as in this current energy-challenging situation, be able to respond to our customers' demands across the globe. So really excited to bring that back in-house. Also, it really aligns well with our broader energy technologies initiatives. So alternative sources of energy, not just oil and gas. This expertise is really great to have and to make -- allow Rockwell to fully serve that market to the best of our capabilities.
And any color on the market environment right now?
Yes. Obviously, the Middle East is one of the more challenging situations. We have considerable resource there. To Rockwell, it's not a material impact. Most of the impact will be seen within my segment, but really assessing damage currently, evaluating opportunities. But even with the Sensia resources coming back inside, we're looking at opportunities across the globe as people have to evaluate their options.
Christian, back to you for the last 2. Capital deployments. We saw a spate of acquisitions around the turn of the decade. There's been more of a bias towards buyback stock recently. How do you think about capital deployment here?
Yes. So we're looking to do transactions again, but we have a very narrow set of criteria that we've put in place around that. Again, we talked about the dilution that we saw from transactions that were completed over the last half decade. And again, great deals, great ways to win, really good offerings, but profitability maybe wasn't quite there. That's one of the criteria that we'd like to tick that box on the next set of transactions as we'd like them to bring profitability with them. And so that's one aspect.
From a focus area, definitely looking for market access. So that is giving us access to the European and Asian markets that we have a lower amount of sales today. Anything that gives us opportunities to add to our portfolio that we can actually push back through our legacy channel is another opportunity. And industrial AI is another area for us. Now all that being said, share buybacks we're not opposed to doing those. It's really more about we want to be in the market every day. And then if there are -- if there's a moment of dislocation, like we saw in Q2, we've got an opportunistic overlay that will step in and pick up more shares. And so happy about taking advantage of that, too.
Great. And then I just wanted to wrap up on November, Rockwell Automation Day...
Yes. Probably one of the few organizations that do an Investor Day every year.
I know. It's great to see. But you're going to be pretty darn close to your margin target, 23.5% -- old money terms, 23.5% segment margin target right now real-time. So I'm guessing 2027 might be little bit ahead of that. So just wondering how you think about that margin target?
Yes. So we definitely -- the margin targets that we put out there are really for our investors, and it's a way to frame discussions like this. The way we think about it internally, absolutely, yes, we want to have kind of medium-, long-term targets, and we do have those today that maybe are, again, get beyond where we are right now. And I mentioned this earlier, we see it, right, we can see the way to get to the prior number of 23.5%. Current -- the way we're measuring it changed a little bit.
We put in corporate and other expense into that equation. So on an apples-to-apples, it's 22% in the new enterprise operating margin metric. But we can see that, and we've got the ability to execute against that today. Now we're focused on that next level of investment in our organization to take us to numbers that are going to be beyond that. And an appropriate time for us to do it, it would be at a year-end. And so let's go execute. Let's see if we can get there this year or get darn close this year. And I'm not saying that we're going to put new targets in place this year or next year, but hopefully, it's right around the corner.
Great. Thanks, Christian. Thanks, Matt. Thanks, Aijana.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Great seeing you. Thanks for having us.
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Rockwell präsentierte sich selbstsicher: starke Q2-Zahlen, Guidance-Anhebung und Fokus auf Margen, Services und AI-gestützte Automatisierung.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Takeaway: Q2-Performance übertraf Erwartungen, Management sieht anhaltende Nachfrage, hat Guidance deutlich angehoben und setzt auf Margenexpansion durch Volumen und Produktivitätsmaßnahmen.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Guidance: Org. Umsatz-Midpoint von 4% auf 7% erhöht; EPS-Midpoint um $1 angehoben.
- Services: Lifecycle Services baut Vertragsbasis aus (Operate‑&‑Maintain, Managed Services) und soll wieder stärkeres wiederkehrendes Wachstum liefern.
- Technologie: AI‑Layer (LogixAI, GuardianAI, VisionAI) als Produktivitäts- und Upsell-Treiber; Fokus auf industrial‑grade Controls für Rechenzentren.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Sensia: Auflösung der JV mit SLB per 1. April; Prozessautomatisierungs‑Expertise und Projektkapazität zurück bei Rockwell.
- Endmärkte: E‑Commerce/Warehouse‑Automatisierung wächst zweistellig; Power‑Distribution/Data‑Center trägt zur Logix‑Nachfrage bei.
- M&A & Kapital: Wieder bereit für Transaktionen, aber mit enger Profitabilitäts- und Marktzugangssfilterung; opportunistische Rückkäufe bei Dislokation.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Nachhaltigkeit: Kritisch gefragt wurde, ob der Q2‑Schub dauerhaft ist; Management sieht ausgeglichene Channel‑Inventare und echte Demand‑Bewegung, bleibt aber vorsichtig.
- ARR/Services: Besorgnis über temporäre ARR‑Verlangsamung (Mid‑single‑Digits); Management betont wachsende Vertragsbasis und Upsell‑Pfad zu Managed Services.
- Risiken: Sichtbarkeit bei Maschinenbauern bleibt begrenzt; geopolitische Unsicherheiten (Regionen, Middle East) und verzögerte Projektentscheidungen als Risiko genannt.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call bestätigt Momentum: Umsatz‑ und EPS‑Guide wurden angehoben, Margen verbessern sich durch Volumen‑Hebel und Produktivitätsprogramme. Anleger sollten die Auftragspipeline, die Conversion in Aufträge und die Erholung des wiederkehrenden Service‑Umsatzes beobachten; geopolitische Risiken und Projektverzögerungen bleiben kurzfristige Unsicherheitsfaktoren.
Rockwell Automation — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for holding, and welcome to Rockwell Automation's quarterly conference call. I need to remind everyone that today's conference call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Aijana Zellner, Head of Investor Relations and Market Strategy. Ms. Zellner, please go ahead.
Thank you, Julianne. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Release Conference Call.
With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Christian Rothe, our CFO.
Our results were released earlier this morning and the press release and charts are available on our website. These materials as well as our remarks today will reference non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures are included in both the press release and charts. A replay of today's webcast and a transcript of our prepared remarks will be available on our website at the conclusion of today's call.
Before we begin, please note that our comments today include forward-looking statements regarding the expected future results of our company. Our actual results may differ materially due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties described in our earnings release and SEC filings.
And with that, I'll hand it over to Blake.
Thanks, Aijana, and good morning, everyone.
Before we turn to our detailed results on Slide 3, I'll make a couple of opening comments. Rockwell delivered especially strong operating performance this quarter with sales, margins and EPS all coming in above our expectations. Double-digit year-over-year growth in orders, sales and earnings reflects our strong market position led by North America and the team's continued focus and execution in a dynamic global environment.
Our technology continues to perform in the most demanding mission-critical environments. Last month, Rockwell supported NASA's Artemis II mission, enabling ground control systems for the first crude mission to the moon in more than 5 decades. It's a powerful example of how customers trust Rockwell when reliability, precision and safety are paramount.
These same capabilities, including our digital engineering, robust security and deep domain expertise are what our customers depend on every day to improve productivity, augment their workforce and modernize operations. We saw an improvement in customer demand across a broader range of industries in Q2, such as e-commerce, warehouse automation, data center, semiconductor and energy. Book-to-bill for the company was slightly higher than our historical average. This includes the increasing contribution from projects to build new capacity in the U.S.
However, persistent trade volatility and geopolitical uncertainty continued to delay large capital investments in other industries, including automotive and consumer packaged goods. We're doing a good job of managing cost increases in areas affected by tariffs, demand for memory and fuel. At the same time, we're accelerating the release of new technology to grow our customer value and share over the long term. The investments we made over the last half dozen years in cloud native software and modern development tools are contributing to this measurably faster pace, including the ability to incorporate AI capabilities within months of their initial release to the market.
Turning to our second quarter results on Slide 3. Q2 sales were above our expectations with organic sales growing 9% year-over-year. Reported sales were up 12% with favorable currency contributing 3 points of growth. Intelligent Devices organic sales were up 9% versus prior year, with strong growth in our Motion, I/O and Safety & Sensing businesses. We continue to build momentum with our production logistics offering where our OTTO AMRs are gaining adoption across a broader range of industries, including automotive, food and beverage, home and personal care and even pilots in data center applications.
A great example of a strategic OTTO win in the quarter was with Subaru of Indiana Automotive, where our autonomous mobile robots are helping scale their production by improving efficiency, flexibility and safety.
In our Software & Control segment, organic sales were up 17% year-over-year and well above our expectations, driven by continued double-digit sales growth of Logix, especially in North America. Our Logix growth was broad-based in the quarter and we saw a particularly strong performance with our data center customers, where we continue to see increasing demand for our industrial grade controllers. A great example of this momentum in Q2 was our win with ATS Automation, who is leading the conversion from commercial controls to our robust Logix PLCs at a new AI data center in Texas.
Lifecycle Services organic sales were down 1% versus prior year. Our longer cycle business was largely in line with expectations with customers deferring some of their larger projects and continuing to prioritize smaller scope productivity and modernization investments. Book-to-bill in this segment was 1.07. The dissolution of our Sensia joint venture is now complete and executed as planned. Christian and I will cover the expected impact on full year fiscal '26 financials later on the call.
Annual recurring revenue was up over 6% in the quarter, including high single-digit growth from software ARR and mid-single-digit growth from recurring services. We continue to see slower growth in our services business with customers temporarily delaying and reprioritizing their spend. One notable ARR win in this quarter was with Prometeon Tyre Group, who selected our cloud native Fix software as their digital maintenance platform, enabling asset management and operational discipline across complex multisite operations worldwide.
From a profitability standpoint, we delivered strong margin performance this quarter. Beginning in Q2, we are now reporting enterprise operating profit and enterprise operating margin, which include corporate expenses. This is due to SEC requirements around non-GAAP measures and is simply a change in presentation with no impact to net income, EPS, cash flow or individual segment margins. Christian will add more detail on this in a few moments.
Enterprise operating margin of 22.5% and adjusted EPS of $3.30 were up significantly year-over-year and well above our expectations, driven by higher volume, positive price/cost, favorable mix and productivity.
Let's move to Slide 4 for Q2 industry highlights. Sales in our Discrete industries grew mid-teens versus prior year, led by better-than-expected growth in automotive, e-comm and warehouse and semiconductor. Within Discrete, automotive had a strong quarter with sales of mid-teens year-over-year. While we are starting to see a broader normalization in production schedules and the release of select larger projects, the majority of customer investment is still focused on productivity and smaller modernization initiatives.
In addition to our Subaru win mentioned earlier, we secured several strategic AMR wins with global brand owners where our autonomous material movement solutions are replacing traditional AGVs and forklifts across their global operations. This quarter, we also had an important new logo win with an energy infrastructure company who chose Rockwell to automate the entire production line for their greenfield facility in China, marking our first end-to-end deployment across a complete battery manufacturing process.
E-commerce and warehouse automation delivered another strong quarter with sales up over 30% year-over-year as customers continue to prioritize upgrades and retrofits within existing warehouses over new greenfield builds. Semiconductor performance improved in Q2 with sales growing high teens versus prior year, supported by a stabilization in core semi demand and an accelerating contribution from AI and data center-driven investment. This is one of the verticals where we saw broadening demand. Our data center business was one of the strongest end markets in the quarter, with sales more than doubling year-over-year. Customers are prioritizing speed to capacity, resilience and energy optimization driving investment in both upgrades to existing facilities and select new builds.
Turning to hybrid. Sales in this segment were up high single digits, led by strong year-over-year growth in food and beverage. Sales in Food & Beverage grew high single digits with good growth in North America and EMEA. We continue to see customer investments in healthier products, including protein, dairy and nonalcoholic drinks. CapEx for new construction remains constrained in consumer packaged goods, including Food & Beverage, but we're seeing the impact of our new offerings such as autonomous mobile robots and contribution from midsized customers that we cover so well along with our distributors.
This quarter, Agropur, a leading dairy producer, selected Rockwell's digital services to support its digital transformation and advance its factory of the future strategy. Our Life Sciences business grew low single digits versus prior year and double digits sequentially with new capacity projects in North America and Asia Pacific. In the quarter, our combination of FactoryTalk PharmaSuite MES, and FactoryTalk Optics helped secure a competitive win for an active pharma ingredient application.
Another strategic life sciences win in the quarter was with Butantan Institute, one of Brazil's largest biopharma and vaccine producers, which expanded its PharmaSuite MES footprint to optimize and automate production processes, reinforcing Rockwell as a long-term digital manufacturing partner.
Turning to Process Industries. Sales in this segment grew mid-single digits with solid growth across energy, metals, pulp and paper, and chemicals. Energy sales were up mid-single digits in the quarter and were above our expectations, particularly in the Americas. A great example of our continued momentum in oil and gas was a win with Petrobras where Rockwell will provide integrated automation services across multiple FPSOs in the Buzios offshore field. This reflects customers' continued trust in our capability to support complex offshore operations at scale.
In mining, we formed a strategic partnership with BHP to support them in advancing the next generation of autonomous operations combining Rockwell's leadership in automation and AI with BHP's deep operational expertise to help enable scalable execution across complex safety critical environments.
Another example of our increased presence in Process this quarter was our new capacity win with a leading North American packaging customer who chose Rockwell to deliver an integrated automation solution for one of the region's largest mill expansion projects, expanding our installed base and positioning Rockwell as a platform for future phases of this multiyear project.
Moving to Slide 5 for our Q2 organic regional sales. We saw broad-based growth across most of our regions this quarter. While the conflict in the Middle East has paused some near-term customer activity, mainly in our Lifecycle Services business, the impact to results is limited today, and we see potential for reinvestment as customers restore operations over time.
Organic sales in the U.S. were up 10% versus prior year and we continue to expect North America to be our strongest region in fiscal '26.
Let's now turn to Slide 6 to review our fiscal 2026 outlook. I'm pleased with our performance in the first half of the year. Customer demand continues to gradually improve and broaden across more of our end markets. However, we are balancing this momentum with a prudent approach in an uncertain environment. We now expect both our reported and organic sales growth to be in the 5% to 9% range. Our reported sales midpoint now assumes 1.5 points of positive contribution from currency translation, offset by the negative sales impact from the Sensia dissolution.
We expect organic annual recurring revenue to grow high single digits this year, led by cloud-native software. We're increasing our enterprise operating margin outlook to 21.5%, up from about 20% in our prior guide, and we now expect our adjusted EPS and to be about $12.80 at the midpoint. The increase is driven by volume and very strong conversion, even as CapEx spending in some verticals remain subdued. We continue to expect free cash flow conversion of 100% in fiscal year '26.
I'll now turn it over to Christian for more detail on our Q2 and financial outlook for fiscal '26. Christian?
Thank you, Blake, and good morning, everyone. Let's go to Slide 7, second quarter key financial information. Second quarter reported sales were up 12% versus prior year. About 3 points of growth came from currency. Our Q2 results still include Sensia as the JV was dissolved on April 1. Three points for organic growth in Q2 came from price, with about half coming from underlying price realization and half from tariff-based pricing.
There were lots of puts and takes from tariffs in the quarter, including the removal of IEPA tariffs, the new Section 122 tariffs and the changed approach with Section 232 tariffs. We continue to expect pricing actions to fully recover tariff costs this year. We'll continue to evaluate and modify our plans as more details become available, especially related to the expected Section 301 tariffs. Maintaining earnings neutrality remains our focus.
Our second quarter and full year guide do not include any impact from expected IEPA refunds or claims resulting from the Supreme Court decision.
Moving on to the rest of the P&L. Gross margins expanded year-over-year by 160 basis points to more than 50%. The strong performance was driven by volume, ongoing benefits from productivity and favorable mix. SG&A spend was 2% higher year-over-year in the second quarter, primarily due to higher compensation, reflecting our annual merit increase and strong outperformance in Q2. Engineering and development spend was up about 11% year-over-year on pace with our sales growth as we continue to invest for the future. Our total innovation spend was about 8% of sales in the quarter.
As Blake mentioned, beginning this quarter, we are now reporting enterprise operating profit and enterprise operating margin, which are both -- which are replacements for total segment operating earnings and total segment operating margin. We are making this change due to SEC requirements, as these new measures include corporate and other expenses and therefore, reflect enterprise level operating performance. There is no change to how we report individual segment operating earnings and segment operating margin for Intelligent Devices, Software and Control and Lifecycle Services. These will continue to be reported on a consistent basis with prior periods.
Slide 15 of our earnings deck shows the recast information for the last 10 quarters, bridging previously reported total segment operating margin to the new enterprise operating margin. This is a change in presentation only and has no impact to reported net income, earnings per share, cash flows or overall financial position.
Our enterprise operating margin expanded 350 basis points year-over-year, reflecting the strong growth in volume, positive price/cost, inclusive of productivity and favorable mix, partially offset by higher compensation. In short, we are getting great leverage on our P&L.
Our adjusted effective tax rate in the quarter was 20.6%, slightly higher than our expectations. We continue to expect an adjusted ETR of 19.5% for the full year. The broad-based strength in our business delivered results that exceeded our expectations with Q2 adjusted EPS of $3.30, up more than 30% year-over-year. Free cash flow in Q2 of $275 million was above our expectations. It was $104 million higher than the prior year, primarily due to higher pretax income driven by our strong Q2 results. Receivables were a use of cash in the quarter, reflecting strong shipments.
Slide 8 provides a sales and margin performance for our -- of our 3 operating segments. Intelligent Devices margin of 20.9% increased by 320 basis points year-over-year and was ahead of our expectations due to positive price cost inclusive of productivity, higher sales volume and favorable mix, partially offset by higher compensation. Resulting segment year-over-year incrementals were in the mid-40s.
Software & Control margin of 34.9% was up 480 basis points versus prior year and was also higher than our expectations, driven by strong sales volume and positive price cost, partially offset by compensation. This segment saw year-over-year incrementals in the high 50s.
Lifecycle Services margin of 14.6% was flat year-over-year, slightly ahead of our expectations. Lifecycle Services had another quarter of good project execution and productivity, offset by higher compensation.
Sequentially, all 3 segments expanded margins from Q1 to Q2 with Intelligent Devices and Software & Control gaining more than 300 basis points each.
For total Rockwell, the incremental margin and the year-over-year sales growth was in the low 50s in Q2, repeating the strong incrementals that we saw last quarter.
Let's move to the next Slide 9, for the adjusted EPS walk from Q2 fiscal 2025 to Q2 fiscal 2026. Year-over-year, core performance had an impact of $0.80 in Q2. Our core performance was driven by volume, price/cost, productivity and mix, partially offset by higher compensation. A quick shout out to the operations team, who leveraged the volume increase to drive great margin performance. A $0.15 currency tailwind was offset by a $0.15 tax headwind. All other items had a neutral impact on adjusted EPS.
Moving on to the next slide, 10, to discuss our guidance for the full year. We are increasing both our reported and organic revenue guidance to a range of 5% to 9% or 7% at the midpoint. That is up 3 points from our prior guidance. This increase reflects the outperformance in the first half of the year and a broadening of the end market strength that Blake discussed in his remarks.
On April 1, after the close of our second quarter, we dissolved our Sensia JV. As we previously mentioned, the dissolution lowers reported revenue, increases Lifecycle and Rockwell margin percentage and is EPS neutral. Our full year guidance now reflects this impact.
Slide 16 of the deck provides an estimate of the sales impact from the now divested businesses for the past 4 quarters. We're providing this pro forma, so you can update your models. The prior midpoint for reported sales guide was $8.8 billion. Our new guide of $8.9 billion reflects about a $200 million increase in our organic sales forecast, partially offset by a $100 million reduction due to the Sensia dissolution. This nets to a $100 million increase in the reported sales guide.
Turning to Slide 11. We are increasing our adjusted EPS guidance range to $12.50 to $13.10. The new midpoint of $12.80 is $1 higher than the midpoint of our prior adjusted EPS guide.
As we move into the second half, we expect inflationary costs to step up, primarily across key components, memory, transportation and general supplier inflation. For instance, memory costs continue to increase in Q2 and are now expected to represent a double-digit million dollar headwind in the back half. We are actively managing these pressures, including through increased safety stock to secure supply and protect operations. We've taken some additional pricing actions to help offset these cost increases, and we now expect 250 basis points of total price for fiscal 2026, with 150 basis points coming from underlying price and 100 basis points from tariff-based price. This is an increase of 50 basis points from our prior outlook, all from underlying price.
The cost inflation and corresponding price realization won't 100% align in any given quarter. Our full year guide reflects sequential margin pressure in the second half. That said, our initial guide for fiscal 2026 expected incremental margin to be about 40% for the year. This new guide puts incrementals above 50% for the full year. For your models, CapEx for fiscal 2026 remains targeted at about 3% of sales.
Now let me share some additional color on our outlook for the third quarter. In Q3, we expect total company reported sales to be roughly flat sequentially with correspondingly flat enterprise operating margin. We are losing about $50 million of sequential sales due to the Sensia dissolution, offset by growth predominantly in the Intelligent Devices segment. Sequential segment margin performance is expected to be up slightly in Intelligent Devices, down in Software & Control and up slightly in Lifecycle as expected post Sensia.
We expect third quarter adjusted EPS to be up about $0.05 sequentially or up mid- to high teens year-over-year.
For the full year, we expect Intelligent Devices reported revenue to grow in the high single digits, with segment operating margin around 20%. For Software & Control, reported revenue should grow in the low double digits, with segment margin in the low 30s, up several hundred basis points year-over-year. For Lifecycle Services, we expect reported revenue to be down about $100 million year-over-year given no second half revenue contribution from the portion of the Sensia business we have now divested with segment operating margin flat to slightly up year-over-year as margin in this segment benefits from the dissolution of Sensia.
A few additional comments on fiscal 2026 guidance for your models. We expect corporate and other expense, which is now part of enterprise operating profit and margin, to be around $110 million. Net interest expense for fiscal 2026 is targeted at about $120 million.
During the quarter, we repurchased 1.2 million shares at a cost of about $450 million. We are now expecting approximately $850 million in repurchases for the year. And we're now assuming average diluted shares outstanding of about 112.1 million shares.
With that, I'll turn it back to Blake for some closing remarks before we start Q&A. Blake?
Thanks, Christian. You may have seen the announcement last week of Clock Tower Farms, a highly automated hydroponic farm, that will start production in our Milwaukee headquarters later this year. Particularly with the developments in software-defined automation, AI and robotics, we are unlocking new applications for our technology that improve the quality of life.
I'm proud of the Rockwell team and our unmatched ecosystem, winning new business, managing costs and delivering impactful solutions, all of that came together in the quarter. We're in a strong position, and we intend to make the most of it.
Aijana will now begin the Q&A session.
Thanks, Blake. We would like to get to as many of you as possible, so please limit yourself to 1 question and a quick follow-up. Julianne, let's take our first question.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research.
2. Question Answer
Everything seems pretty clear. Look, I guess this data center market, if it's doubling must be getting to somewhat of a material size, I would think. I'm remembering it kind of 1% of sales was doubling that means 2% of sales, you double from there, it's 4%. If you get my point. I'm just -- are you comfortable sizing it for us and helping us understand kind of what that TAM may look like for your products?
Sure. Scott, we're really proud of the progress we're making in data centers. We've talked about it as being low single digits. So a modest amount of base revenue and we don't change the percentage splits of the individual verticals that we show in the slides, except annually. And so we'll take a look at that and see where it lands to determine whether there's more explicit dimensioning of the data center business. But just for review as well, data center for us comes from, I'd say, 3 main places in our offering.
The first would be the power distribution, largely through our Cubic technology that we acquired a few years ago. The second would be the growing trend to replace commercial grade controls with industrial PLCs. Logix has a natural choice for its safety and reliability. And then participating with some of our large HVAC customers. So think about the chiller demand and so on in drives from those customers. So we're proud of the progress, and we'll take a look at the numbers at the end of the year.
Okay. Helpful. And then, look, I think twice in the prepared remarks, you mentioned kind of productivity and modernization projects being the emphasis versus kind of the larger scale stuff. What does that mean as it relates to kind of content intensity and differences? I mean, how meaningful is that change for Rockwell?
Well, I'd say the modernizations, the expansions of existing brownfields, it's the same products that ultimately go into the solutions as when CapEx is being invested. There's probably a little bit heavier involvement in capital projects for Lifecycle Services. So that's part of what's muting the Lifecycle Services growth. But those modernizations, those expansion, lots of Logix, lots of Intelligent Devices and so on in those projects.
Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz from Citigroup.
Like, it seems like you raised your forecast for several CapEx-intensive end markets. Semicon, Energy, Chemicals, I think. Is it fair to say that you're seeing some decent unlock in larger projects versus last quarter? Then maybe you can give more color to the drivers and durability of the unlock. Obviously, looks like short cycle has gotten a bit better. We all see the improvement in the USIS 7. But the customer decision-making on large projects just accelerate? And why do you think that is?
So it's -- in certain of the industries that we've been talking about, where CapEx is being invested, we've talked about e-commerce and warehouse automation for a while now, or data center, we added to that semiconductor and energy as well. And so we are seeing enough of a broadening in the capital being invested to make particular note of that. What I should mention, however, is that we're still not seeing a wholesale unlock of capital in some of our biggest end markets, namely automotive and consumer packaged goods, including food and beverage. We had good results in those verticals in the quarter.
But in the case of consumer packaged goods, in particular, it's more a factor of those modernizations that I mentioned, good performance with midsized customers where our channel particularly in North America is so valuable. And then the impact of new offerings, some sizable projects with mobile robots and some of the newer additions to the Rockwell portfolio.
Helpful, Blake. And then like Christian, obviously, operating leverage is helping you. But when we look at your major segments, such as Intelligent Devices and Software & Control, you mentioned positive pricing and productivity is helping. As you've said, you're now focused on averaging 50% incrementals in '26 versus 40%, I think, which was your original guide. So I know you're focused on continuous improvement, but how much is that helping and impacting, for instance, price versus cost? And are we starting to think the core incrementals at Rockwell could be higher than your previous longer-term algorithm?
Yes. Sure, Andy. I appreciate the question. The productivity cadence that Rockwell has been really good over the last couple of years and quite pleased with the progress of the team. And I think you're noticing something that's really great to see, which is it's not just the productivity programs overall in and of themselves, but it's actually a broadening of the thought process of the organization and continue to drive additional ways to win, additional ways to bring through that profitability.
As you know, we're getting some really nice growth on the volume side, and that's flowing through nicely. You mentioned about the incremental margins for 2026 coming in at around 50% in our guide, which is great. Historically, we talk about 35% flow-through. I think when you think about a cycle and how the incrementals work through the cycle for us, we still feel very comfortable with that 35% that we've signed up for. As we move forward and we get to a point where we start talking about other targets for the organization, we do it under the overall umbrella of our growth algorithm. That will be the moment if we were to revisit it, that's what we would do. But again, 35% is a really good flow-through number for us to target for an industrial company. So we're happy with that.
Our next question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays.
Just wanted to start with the enterprise operating margin guidance because I think it's pegged at about 22% in the second half of the year and the quarter just delivered was 22.5%. So it's very, very rare for margins in the back half to come down versus fiscal Q2, but that's what the guide is implying. Is this all just this sort of inflation from memory and so forth? Anything else in there, maybe mix is assumed to reverse or something like that? I think mix was a decent tailwind in the first half.
Yes. Maybe I'll start with that one and Blake can jump in. But first of all, to confirm the -- historically, we've talked about a total segment operating margin percentage target for medium term, that's in the 23.5%. Now that we're talking about enterprise operating margin, you're right, the math is about 22% is what that target is. And we are -- we just did a number that's slightly above that. As we talk about and think about the second half of the year, and I said this in my prepared comments, we do have some inflationary pressures that are coming into play, specifically around memory, but also on raw commodities and other supplier inflation.
So we also have some additional spending coming through in the second half. And I think it's just as important to note that Q2 was a really strong outperform. We had a number of things that converged all quite nicely for us, and that's everything from the volume increase that we had sequentially that the factories performed really well on that. The spending level was kept in check. We were able to get really good price realization in the quarter. So it all converged quite nicely. And when you look at the incrementals that we had from Q1 to Q2, that flowed through really well.
So to be able to try to hold on to that and keep that total enterprise operating margin flat sequentially from Q2 to Q3. And then again, when we think about the full year numbers, we will have a little bit of mix shift that happens in the fourth quarter, which is normal for us that will be somewhat detrimental to our margins sequentially from Q3 to Q4. So overall, we feel comfortable with how this rolled together.
Yes, just the only other thing to add to that are that mix shift in the fourth quarter, that's the typical seasonal higher deliveries of Lifecycle Services and engineered lineups that we typically see in the fourth quarter. We're taking a prudent approach to this. The other comment that Christian made about cost is really associated with the accelerated pace of new product introduction that is really across all of our businesses, but especially in Software & Control and Intelligent Devices, we're going to see a lot of new products at automation fair this year and into next year. And so that's what the majority of that spend is associated with.
That's helpful. And then my second question, just on the demand front. I guess, first off, was there any kind of surge in orders in recent weeks? There were some other kind of industrial companies or shorter cycle industrial companies who saw very, very high orders growth in the March quarter, multiples of their organic revenue growth. I just wondered on the extent of the orders increase that you've seen? And any particular color on the Logix platform within that, please?
Sure. Julian, we continue to look very carefully at the buying patterns at our distributors. We look at their inventory levels and we continue to regularly survey our machine builders so that we make sure we understand and can ensure that the demand is natural. And that was the case in the quarter. We did not see any pull forwards or advance orders in the quarter. So we're encouraged by that.
Logix itself grew over 20% in the quarter. We continue to see strong gains in Logix. We're introducing new products. We're seeing conversions in data center. So that business is doing quite well with some very exciting additional introductions planned over the coming year.
Our next question comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to follow up on the demand commentary. I think if I heard correct that you said the book-to-bill was above the normal range. So if you could just confirm that and like just maybe confirm what the normal range is, if I heard that correct? And then just, I guess, more broadly, have customer conversations changed? It felt like over the last year, the messaging was that there's a lot of interest in relocating production into the U.S. but companies were just not pulling the trigger yet. Do you think that has flipped, and if so, why?
Sure. So Chris, I'll start with some comments and Christian might add to that. Look, we've talked about a normal corridor for book-to-bill orders over shipments as being between 0.95 and 1.1. In the quarter, it was a little bit above that. For the first half, it was within that corridor, and we expect the full year to be within that corridor. So there was good demand, good conversion in the quarter of orders received, but we just saw orders particularly strong, especially in products in the quarter.
From an overall customer demand standpoint, the sentiment is still positive. There's excitement, I would say, about the focus on manufacturing in America, our home market, and while we have seen the uncertainty around tariffs and geopolitical and some inflation delay capital in a few of the markets I mentioned, like consumer packaged goods and automotive, in these other industries, including a couple that we started talking about this quarter that we haven't talked about in the past, capital is being spent.
And so I'd say the general mood is positive. But undeniably, there is still some uncertainty and volatility in the areas that I mentioned.
Maybe just a quick follow-up on the book-to-bill number that Blake mentioned. So the book-to-bill in that range we talked about the 0.95 to 1.1, for us, that is the range for Q1 to Q3. Q4 for us, it's very common for us to have a book-to-bill that's below 1. We don't call that out typically, just because of the fact that, again, Q4 tends to be a higher shipment quarter for us. So we build up a little bit on the backlog during the course of the year and Q4, it comes back down to a more normalized level.
But again, I can't overemphasize just slightly above that corridor in the second quarter and for the first half inside that corridor.
I appreciate that. If I could follow up on margins, and I understand there's a lot of moving parts with inflation changing quickly and mix. But I wanted to ask about the structural self-help margin opportunity for the company. At the Investor Day, you guys talked about a lot of opportunity. Clearly, a lot of that has been realized if we look at the margin expansion over the last couple of years. And I guess you guys are running ahead of that 23.5% medium-term target already. So I guess, like where are we in the self-help journey? When you guys look into '27 and '28, do you still see more opportunity on that front? Or from here, is it more about driving volumes to get the margins higher?
Yes. Thanks, Chris. For sure, we never shy away from volume. Volume is extremely important. And of course, we want that. But from the productivity in the self-help side, I am -- and we talked about this at Investor Day as well, I think we're quite happy with how things are progressing with the organization and the number of projects we have that are underpinning our productivity program and that productivity program is alive and well. It did not conclude. We are, in fact, adding to it. We have more projects under that today than what we did a year ago and more projects a year ago than what we had 2 years ago.
So we continue to build on that base. Yes, the projects probably have a little bit smaller overall number or average size, but we continue to execute against that. And importantly, as I'm on the road and going out and visiting our facilities and going into our operations, it's really exciting to have the operations team. They want to show all the different productivity projects they're working on. They are being very creative. We're doing everything from starting to build our own automated final assembly stations. There's in-sourcing projects that are happening. I heard a project last week around saving on labels that were costing us less than $0.01 already, and they were able to save a whole bunch of costs on that.
We're streamlining our builds. That's all -- those are all great. And that's exactly what the operations should be doing in a continuous improvement environment, but it's beyond that also. The selling organization, the marketing team, the overall office staff inside the corporate office, yes, AI is enabling a portion of this. but it's also unlocking a lot more around what we can do as an organization. And so yes, we are excited about the future. We do think there's really good productivity opportunities for us for quite some time. The '27 pipeline is being built right now for us to go execute against, and we feel really good about our ability to finish out '26 well too.
Yes, absolutely. And I think additional comment about where are we in this journey? We've had good success, especially the back half of fiscal '24 as we set a new base, '25 and now '26, and we're operationalizing this. So this becomes a part of the total company's operating rhythm as enshrined in the Rockwell operating model. And so additional work to make this just a fundamental part of what we do going forward, that's not relying on individual heroics. It's a part of our processes, I think, is the exciting part of the journey that we're in now.
Our next question comes from Quinn Fredrickson from Baird.
Just wonder if you could unpack a bit more of your expectations around discrete for the back half, just given the really strong start, you're off to in first half and the sequential acceleration you saw this quarter? Full year guide would seem to imply some deceleration in the back half. Is that just a function of comps get tougher or some conservatism embedded around CapEx or any other factors to call out?
So I'll start with -- I can start with some comments about Discrete. For the full year, we're looking at Discrete being up low double digits. We continue to expect automotive for the year to be up mid-single digits. Semiconductor, which we talked about a little bit on this call, up around 10%. And then e-commerce and warehouse automation up around 20%. So Discrete is a good industry end market force. We're seeing growth in hybrid and process as well as we've talked about. But I'd say, Discrete with the e-commerce and warehouse automation, data center, that's strong for us right now.
And the -- just to build off of that, we are still looking at modest sequential growth in Discrete as we go through the remainder of the year. Yes, indeed, the comps get harder as we go through the second half of the year. And that's not just in Discrete that's also in the overall organization.
Sure. Okay. And then specifically within automotive, just wonder if you could unpack a little bit more the strength you did see relative to the fact that CapEx still is weaker. Is that being driven mostly by ARR or just healthy brownfields share gains? Just any color there? And then any visibility on when the CapEx side might start to turn based on your customer discussions?
Sure. In automotive, we've seen the brand owners balance their approach. So internal combustion engines where we have such a large installed base, is still a very important part of their portfolios. They're making investments in hybrid, and there's some in battery electric, but I'd say, hybrid has been a more recent source of focus. We've got that installed base across our hardware portfolio, but also some of the new ways to win that we've added. So Plex with tier suppliers, fixed or maintenance, autonomous mobile robots. Automotive is the single largest vertical for AMRs, and we saw some great wins recently there.
So I think that characterizes it. Now in terms of when we could see an upturn in more wholesale capital spending in automotive, I think the tariffs are a big part of that. Everybody is watching USMCA as those negotiations begin, and it's especially important for the automotive companies.
Our next question comes from Amit Mehrotra from UBS.
I wanted to just double-click on warehouse automation growth. Obviously, that's been very robust. I just wanted to ask a little bit more color. Is that a few large customers restarting spending? Or are you seeing demand broadening out? And then just related to that, could you talk about how margins compare in that vertical versus maybe the company average?
Yes. So I'll talk about 4 main aspects of e-commerce and warehouse automation. First is the data center component. The second is new fulfillment centers with e-commerce. Third is production logistics, which is where companies, in many cases, consumer packaged goods companies are seeing dramatic increases in efficiency by improving the flow of components and material to the production line and then finished goods taken to the loading dock or into the warehouse, and then parcel handling companies as well. So it's fairly broad-based.
There's some different customers and each one of those let's say, subsegments, but they're all robust. And when we look at the profile of what's being provided there, it's really more weighted towards hardware. And it's just the standard products, it's Logix, it's motion control for conveyors and diverters, it's sensors from our industrial components business. So it's products that we've been known for, for a long time in a vertical that's experiencing a very high sustained level of multiyear investment.
Regarding the margin profile, these are -- keep in mind, for Rockwell, our offerings are horizontal. That is, we were able to use the same products and solutions for lots of different applications. The end result is that is a similar margin profile by offering. Now depends on what exactly the -- is being given in the warehouse automation space. So really the difference in profitability in warehouse automation for us has to do the products versus solutions and the mix of those that we see. And that really depends on customer and application. But overall, the margin profile is similar to other offerings.
Got it. Great. And then just as a follow-up, one thing I noticed is obviously more balanced growth between North America, EMEA, AsiaPac. Can you just talk about if you're seeing the international market catch-up? It's primarily been kind of a North American let story, and that's your biggest growth region, but I'm curious if you're seeing EMEA and Asia Pac kind of accelerate as well?
Sure. So as you noted, it's good balanced growth in the quarter. We do expect for the full year that North America will be highest but when we look at what is contributing to the growth in Europe, it's largely the strength of machine builders. We saw high single-digit growth in Germany. We saw a low double-digit growth in Italy, two of the more machine builder intensive countries for us. And that's certainly for machinery that's bound for the U.S. but also other parts of the world because our portfolio is becoming more and more competitive for applications where the U.S. is not part of the mix.
In Asia, we saw growth in China in the quarter, led largely by semiconductor in Taiwan. We've got some very large customers there, and we talked about semiconductor more generally, but that was a particularly strong spot there and then -- and growth in other countries in Asia as well. I would characterize the growth in Asia as systems integrators, engineering firms, users and machine builders. In Europe probably a little bit more concentrated on machine builders.
From a comparable perspective, I just want to point out that Q2 last year Asia Pacific and EMEA were down year-over-year. North America was flat year-over-year. So our comps were a little bit easier in the EMEA and AP regions last year.
Julianne, we will take one more question.
Our next question comes from Andrew Buscaglia from BNP Paribas.
A similar line of question on the end markets and regions. I think intra quarter, you see the geopolitics, heightened energy prices up a lot. And I think there's a lot of concerns around what that means for your process business, both near and long term. Can you talk about how process took out intra quarter? It sounded fine. But what are your thoughts long term in that segment?
Yes. Look, we're excited to bring back the oil and gas-focused process automation business from Sensia into full control under Rockwell. And that business, specifically is about 10% of our total energy if you include other forms of energy is about 15%. And we specifically called that out as you said, a good contributor in the quarter. People are going to be concerned about efficiency. They're taking a very disciplined approach to capital. And particularly where we're most exposed upstream, there's still a lot of opportunity to increase the efficiency of those operations, either in process control, with Logix, power control, with our variable speed drives, digitization, so providing digital twins of those processes to debottleneck.
All the things that we've talked about in other industries are opportunities there. We talked about a nice FPSO win in Brazil in the quarter. LNG, although it's a relatively small part of our total exposure in oil and gas, is obviously doing very well and participating in some compressor trains there. So look, there's a strong correlation between energy abundance and the standard of living around the world, and we expect to be able to continue to participate in that we're all very concerned about the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
We see that on our business as having paused certain projects. But in general, we don't expect a material impact on our business results for the year.
Yes, okay. That's helpful. And I wanted to check on one other thing within Software & Control. So the second -- second quarter in a row of great results. And that margin of close to 35%, I know you're signaling near-term that's going to be down. But what were the biggest factors driving that performance in Q2? And is that a high water mark we likely don't see for a long time? Or is that kind of where you think that margin can shake out over the medium term?
Yes. So I'll make some comments and then Christian may have some additional thoughts on it. Look, we're very proud of the way Logix is trending. We've talked about a 31% to 34% margin corridor in our midterm targets. We're happy to have performed above that in this quarter. Volume certainly helps. Productivity is helping there. Software, in Software & Control, very profitable Plex business, for instance, certainly helps that. And as we said, ARR for software was up high single digits in the quarter.
So we're proud of that. We're looking to sustain high levels of margin performance in that business, of course, but we indicated some of the factors in the second half of the year.
Yes. And I think we're just -- we want to make sure we're being prudent about how we think about that performance. Blake just highlighted a bunch of things of all converge on what really went well for us in the second quarter. When we think about third quarter and second half overall, though we do have those inflationary impacts that are definitely coming into play. The memory side, it is real. We also have some additional engineering and development spend and other project spend. And importantly, Q2, the disciplined spending was outstanding, and that was great.
But I think, again, to be prudent, we're expecting that there's going to be some spending that comes back in the second half for us. So really strong quarter for Software & Control. Really happy for that -- for all of us in that group. But again, trying to make sure we're balanced as we think about the full year.
That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us today.
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Rockwell Automation — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
Rockwell Automation — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
Rockwell lieferte ein starkes Q2: Umsatz, Marge und EPS über den Erwartungen; Guidance angehoben, aber zweite Jahreshälfte bleibt von Kosten- und Geopolitikrisiken geprägt.
Q2-Fortschritt treibt Guidance hoch, Wachstum breit gefächert (Data Center, E‑Commerce, Semicon, Energie); Sensia-Auflösung reduziert Reporting, ist EPS-neutral.
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Reported Sales +12% YoY; organisch +9% YoY (Währung +3 Pp.).
- Enterprise-Marge: 22,5% (neu: "enterprise operating margin" schließt Konzern-/andere Kosten ein), +350 Basispunkte YoY.
- Adjusted EPS: $3,30 (+>30% YoY).
- ARR: Annual Recurring Revenue +>6% (Software: high-single-digits).
- Free Cash Flow: $275 Mio. in Q2 (+$104 Mio. vs Vorjahr).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Produkt & Tech: Massive Investitionen in cloud‑native Software, moderne Entwicklungstools und schnelle Integration von KI‑Fähigkeiten zur Beschleunigung neuer Angebote.
- Marktexpansion: Breiter Nachfrageanstieg — Data Center, E‑Commerce/Warehouse, Semiconductor, Energie; autonome Mobile Robots (OTTO) gewinnen stark an Adoption.
- Portfolio & Struktur: Sensia‑JV aufgelöst (wirkt sich auf Umsatz aus, ist jedoch EPS‑neutral); Fokus auf Produktivitätsprogramme und Preis‑/Mix‑Verbesserungen.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Umsatzziele: Reported & organisches Wachstum jetzt 5–9% (Mittelpunkt ~7%); neuer Reported‑Guide rund $8.9 Mrd (Pro‑forma Anpassungen wegen Sensia).
- Profitabilität: Enterprise operating margin erwartet ~21.5% (erhöht), Adjusted EPS Guidance $12.50–$13.10 (Mittelpunkt $12.80); Incrementals für FY‑26 >50%.
- Cash & Kapital: Free Cash Flow Conversion ~100% für FY‑26; Buybacks ~ $850 Mio. geplant; CapEx ~3% des Umsatzes.
- Risiken: Memory‑Kosten (doppeltstelliger Mio.-$‑Headwind H2), mögliche Section‑301/232/122 Tariff‑Unsicherheiten, geopolitische Verzögerungen; Pricing‑maßnahmen sollen Tariff‑Effekte kompensieren.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Data Center TAM: Management bestätigt starkes Wachstum (Logix >20% Q2) und mehrere Einsatzfälle (Leistung, Industrial PLCs, HVAC), liefert aber keine konkrete TAM‑Zahl und plant genauere Zählung Jahresende.
- Nachfrageprofil: Analysten fragten nach Pull‑forwards vs. normaler Nachfrage; Management sagte, Book‑to‑bill leicht über dem historischen Korridor (0,95–1,10) und keine Anzeichen für kurzfristige Pull‑forwards.
- Margen‑Nachhaltigkeit: Kritische Nachfragen zu Self‑help/Produktivität beantwortet: Produktivitätsprogramme laufen weiter, Management erwartet weitere Chancen, sieht aber H2‑Aufwände (Komponenten, Einführung neuer Produkte).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Bedeutung: Starkes operatives Ergebnis und erhöhte Guidance stützen positives kurzfristiges Momentum; Aktionäre profitieren von Margenhebeln, hohem FCF und aktiven Rückkäufen. Beobachten: H2‑Inflationsrisiken (Speicher, Transporte), Auswirkungen der Sensia‑Auflösung auf Umsatz‑Sichtbarkeit und mögliche Tarif‑Entwicklungen.
Rockwell Automation — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
Good morning. My name is Andrew Obin. I'm BofA's U.S. Multi-Industrial Analyst. And our next presenter is the management team from Rockwell. We have Christian Rothe, Senior Vice President and CFO; Matt Fordenwalt, Senior Vice President of Lifecycle Services; and Aijana Zellner, VP, Investor Relations and Market Strategy. And Christian is going to start out with some prepared remarks and slides, and then we're going to go to a fireside chat. Thank you so much for being here.
Thanks, Andrew, and thanks for having us. Good morning, everyone. Let's see if the clicker works for me. All right. So normal safe harbor statement. A couple of quick comments on Rockwell overall. So last year, a little bit over $8 billion in sales. We're headquartered in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in the United States. You can see that we have a pretty good exposure around the globe, but in particular, we are more concentrated in North America. North America is a good spot to be right now because that is where a lot of the volume growth is happening and that is going to be our fastest growing market in 2026 as well.
We have 3 reportable segments. The Lifecycle Services segment, which is represented by Matt Fordenwalt here today, he runs that business for us. Intelligent Devices is our largest segment, $3.7 billion. And our Software & Control segment at $2.4 billion, 26,000 employees for Rockwell around the globe.
In November of 2023, we initiated a long-term growth algorithm as well as some segment margin targets. I'll talk about the segment margin targets in a moment. But this long-term growth algorithm is made up of multiple components. The first is faster secular growth. So think of this as GDP plus because we have exposure to a number of end markets that are growing faster than that. And so we have a really strong exposure to those markets. I'll hit that on the next slide.
The next part, and that we look at 3% to 5% for that share growth and expanded markets. That is we're looking to, of course, gain share but we also have more ways to win, and we've done that via acquisition over the last several years. And then ARR, annual recurring revenue. It's about 10% of our business today, growing at a faster clip than the overall business. This year, our guide is for high single-digit growth for ARR. So we expect that, that is going to add 1 point of growth to our overall growth algorithm, that 5% to 8% organic.
Now our guide for this year, the midpoint of the guide is 4%. The range that we have in place for the guide is 2% to 6%. We initiated that at the end of our fourth quarter. And we just recently -- or 1.5 months ago, we reported our first quarter. We typically do not update our guide after the end of the first quarter just because, obviously, it's 1 quarter in. There are lots of unknowns. But know that with that range, that 2% to 6% range that is in our guide, of course, that we -- at the high end of that, if things develop nicely, and we did have a really good first quarter, double-digit top line growth. But if we get to that 6%, of course, that takes us into that range for our long-term growth algorithm.
And then on top of that, we have acquisitions. We've been on pause on acquisitions for the last couple of years as we digest transactions that we've done in the past before that. That has come together really nicely for us. We are now starting to build the pipeline on M&A.
On the faster secular growth, that 3% to 5%, I mentioned this earlier. But this is a new slide for us that we brought out at our Investor Day last November. And so it shows kind of Rockwell's share. Of course, these are all management estimates and then what we think the CAGR is going to be for these markets that we serve over the next 5 years. So you can see that we have really good exposure to a lot of different market segments, which is outstanding, areas where we have really strong market share and a really good historical base, things like consumer packaged goods. Those are a little bit slower growing, but they're a lot more predictable as well. And other areas that are a lot faster growing, we have opportunities to continue to gain share.
And then from a margin expansion perspective, we, again, we put these in place in November of 2023, and we've been working towards that goal. We expanded our operating margins overall for the company by 110 basis points last year. Our expectation is we're going to be able to do that again in that ballpark again this year, and that's what's in our guide.
Lifecycle Services, which Matt runs is actually already inside the corridor that we put for a target, that 13% to 15%. Software & Control has touched it during certain quarters in the recent past. But it's not -- it hasn't put together a full year yet, but getting closer. And then Intelligent Devices, that 22% to 24%, that's the one that's farthest away. We've got opportunities to continue to go after with things like operational excellence programs. Overall, for the company, that target is 23.5% for the total company. This year, our guide is at 21.5%. So we're a couple of points away from that target number right now.
And part of what we're doing right now is also we're thinking about the future and going beyond that 23.5%. And we're doing that by making investments today that is going to have a yield for us over the long term. And so part of those investments that we're making is we're transitioning as an organization from what historically has been an asset-light organization to have a little bit more asset intensity, investing in ourselves, doing a lot more things for ourselves. So this is capital, it's digital transformation for our organization, it's investment in talent as well. We announced -- last year, we announced a $2 billion investment cycle for us over the next 5 years. So it's a really exciting time to be at Rockwell.
So with that, we can start the chat.
Thanks so much. So look, I think if you -- if we take a look at the materials from your Analyst Day last fall and what you've been presenting, Rockwell is clearly executing on a broad transformative operational agenda. But strategically, when you go to the Board, what are the couple of top priorities for this management team, right? Like as you go down the list because as I said, if you dig in, it's a very broad and deep list. But what's at the very top?
Yes. I mean at the very top, obviously, as an organization, we want growth. Top line growth is really important for us. So it is about trying to make sure that we have a really strong new product development pipeline that we're continuing to invest in the markets that we want to go after. I obviously hit on a few of those there. And so we want to make sure that we are driving that top line as well as getting profitable growth. That is we're also driving the bottom line. We're doing it through operational excellence.
So we do -- when we're talking to the Board, when we're having discussions even as a management team, a lot of those discussions are focused on how we're going to continue to use that Rockwell operating model, which is taking that faster growth and combining with operational excellence in order to get margin expansion. So it's -- you put those all together, and that's really -- that's where the emphasis is as a leadership team and also with the Board.
No, I would agree, profitable growth is the #1 objective. I think product development cycles are speeding up for us and the investment in the business in terms of driving productivity, doing things more efficiently, the combination of that expanded portfolio, the market exposure we have and doing things internally better will drive that.
And maybe as clearly faster secular growth is #1 on your list as well. Can we just -- can you give us an update on macro? What are you seeing? I think as we sort of dig into your model, your outlook doesn't really have much second half acceleration built in. How do you feel about that?
That's a conservative outlook.
You want to start on the macro, Aijana? And then if I can jump in on the second half.
Sure. I mean we talked about, there is certainly some good indicators out there in terms of ISM, what we are hearing from our customers, our engagements with them. I mean Christian just spent some time with our Italian customers a few weeks ago. Matt just actually flew in from France, meeting with some of our global end users, a lot of activity with our customers. So that's positive, definitely.
We continue to look at unemployment, and it has continued to stay relatively low, but we follow that as well. But there are a lot of different things that inform our forecast and our outlook. The biggest one is really our close engagement with our customers and the orders they put in on us. And as we mentioned on our Q1 earnings call, we did see some great orders and some great wins, some greenfields, a lot of brownfield, a lot of productivity. But we're not seeing -- at the time, we didn't see that broad-based kind of uptake.
But overall, from a macro standpoint, uncertainty is still there. And we talked about the need for more stability on the trade front, on the geopolitical front so that these customers across many industries can actually start with those capital outlays.
And with regard to the second half, yes, as I said, we started out the year really well in the first quarter, double-digit top line growth, and that's against our guide that the midpoint is at 4%. Since we didn't and did not -- so traditionally, we don't update the guide, that outperformed in the first quarter, makes it look like that the second half is going to be a little bit more muted. Let's see, right? Let's see how it all develops, and we will be doing an update to our guide after the end of the second quarter. So it's a -- it was a good way to start the year.
Importantly, Andrew, it's not a deceleration in terms of sequentially. Nothing is getting worse, right? We expect moderate sequential improvement as the year progresses. But from a year-over-year standpoint, certainly, if we look at the math, the first half looks like it's a higher year-over-year growth from the second one.
So a strong start to the year model is what it is, stay tuned.
Yes.
Maybe just jumping around a little bit. Clearly, recently, AI and software has been at the top of the investor minds. Maybe I think when we talk to people about Rockwell, there seems to be a bit of confusion as to what it is you do and what your software capabilities really are. Can you just maybe spend some time talking about both your OT and IT software capabilities, where within the factory automation control pyramid you are? And then when I look at what's happening, I actually see opportunities. And what opportunities does agentic AI create for Rockwell given your dominant position in the machine control layer? Maybe that's where we can start.
Sure. I'll start. So when you think about Rockwell's technologies, we're really at Level 2 and Level 3. So our ability to design and operate machine control, the control system within the plant floor, the majority of our software is intimately connected to our hardware and the firmware that runs the machines in the plant.
But the hardware would be Level 1, Level 2, right?
Level 1, Level 2, mostly Level 2. So it is part and parcel of creating value for where we are applying AI is how you design the system, how you actually maintain the system. But in terms of the actual value creation, we're talking really at that machine level, how it's integrated.
So for us, we see AI as a tremendous opportunity to continue to build intelligent machines that sense, that perceive, that act. So for us, at that level where the action is really happening, it's truly a differentiator compared to, I'll say, cloud-based AI. Now, we do have MES. But really straddles between Level 3 and Level 4. But our MES tends to be tightly integrated with the control on the floor using data from the plant floor itself. So when I think about our software portfolio and I think about sort of the hype in the market today, I think it's a huge opportunity for us to continue to elevate our portfolio as well as create more value for our customers.
If you look at what we do, just to add to that, we look at our customers in the production environment, and we help them across the entire life cycle. From designing the system, designing the whole plant, how the production is going to run to really production. That's the biggest part of their life cycle. And so running something without any unplanned downtime with a lot more AI-enabled process optimization, better quality, better throughput.
And so this is what agentic AI is, and you're closing the loop, you're looking at, as Matt said, there is something that's sensing, we're making a decision. And it's the most valuable data that's flowing through our controllers, valuable data that's flowing through our MES. And so when you hear about some of that potential threat, this data is not available in the public domain, the most valuable data that's flowing through our hardware and through our software, the billions of transactions, this is proprietary. And we are using the data to continue to train our models and our agents throughout that.
And so we absolutely view it as an enabler all the way from designing something and using natural language instructions and helping our customers get to production faster, right, accelerating time to market. We help them during the production phase across many different levels. We do have, of course, our intelligent devices, our autonomous mobile robots, we have sensors, of course, our PLC and then software throughout. And so -- and then of course, Matt's business, services is helping customers all the way from consulting and using AI to help them figure out the best use cases, what's the biggest bang for their buck, what's the best ROI, all the way through the process to upgrade, how do you do it seamlessly, how do you do it in prescriptive way.
And Matt, maybe what other ARR trends and if you can sort of break it down because, right, there is software ARR and then there's services ARR. You don't really disclose the difference between them. Can you just talk about maybe between the 2 because there is concern about slowing software ARR. What are you seeing there?
Our ARR is very balanced. So it's not materially different between software and service. Specifically on services, our services are to support our customers. So my project side of my business, our ecosystem or SIs create a large vast installed base. And with the labor shortage or skilled labor shortage out there, many customers do not have the talent and skills in-house to continuously maintain and get -- and optimize their investment in automation. So we have tens of thousands of contracts with customers across the globe where we are applying domain expertise remotely or through our AI investments to ensure that those systems are supported and they're optimized across the entire tech stack that we sell.
So those contracts are highly valuable in terms of recurring revenue, the profitability is also very attractive. But most importantly, it's really about how we meet our customers where they're at, how we ensure that they're getting the most out of their automation investment, and we're taking them to the next level of performance through those contracts.
From a growth standpoint, you're right. I mean the last few quarters, we did see a slightly slower growth rate in ARR broadly, especially in services and the digital services part. We talked about in this kind CapEx environment that with a lot of delays, customers are being more watchful and they are deferring, delaying some of the services that are viewed more discretionary, meaning they're important services, but they're not urgent, right? And so we did see some of that.
Now software ARR actually is growing above the overall ARR growth rate of high single-digit growth. But we do think it's temporary, but it's very much aligned with what we've seen broadly.
And Matt, as long as we sort of -- as long as we sort of talk about Lifecycle Services, maybe we can pivot. If we look at the slide, your business has a nice green checkmark next to margins. It has been a great margin story. Given sort of Christian's drive for margins, what are you...
You noticed that?
Just a little bit. So what are you doing differently? And how much runway do you have, right? Because you've clearly been ahead of everybody else in terms of margins. What has driven the improvement? And as I said, how much run rate do you have?
And maybe as part of the answer, Matt, you can give a little bit more context, even going backwards to kind of where we started.
Sure. So we've successfully doubled the margins in my segment over the last several years.
Well, that's what the company is doing, right?
That's what the company is going to do.
You're the best. It's great being up here with you.
So specifically on Lifecycle Services, I think we are a little bit ahead of the rest of the company in terms of our focus on productivity and efficiency. So we've embraced technology. So a large part of our productivity has been driven by modernizing our systems, our business processes and enabling our workforce to do things more efficiently. So that's one part of that story. We've also focused on our joint venture, Sensia, and improving the profit margin there. Now we have announced that we will be dissolving Sensia, which will be somewhat accretive to my segment's margins and the company's margins.
And last, we've also focused on our labor pyramid, the levels and skills that we have across the globe, and we are truly a global organization in terms of how we deliver projects and services to our customers. So we've really done a nice job, I think, of combating rising wage as well as rising material costs in the environment. So we're pricing much more efficiently, much more effectively. And I think what I'm most proud of is our ability to execute. We have done an extremely diligent job in mitigating technical or commercial risk. And, at the same time, delighting our customers to create installed base for Rockwell. So it's been a great story, and I look forward to seeing what the future will hold, which I think will be a lot more driven by the technology advancement that I have in my segment and become more and more focused on how we deliver a global scale across our capability centers that we've really invested in over the last several years.
And just talking about margin and just sort of going back to the corporate. How much of what happened in the Lifecycle Services are applicable to the rest of the company? Particularly Christian, when we talk, you really have this laser focus on that pricing for the company. How much of what has happened in this segment can be sort of expanded to broader Rockwell?
Yes, I think there's definitely some great learnings. And Matt has built maybe one of the items that you kind of talked about, but I'll hit on a little bit more. Matt has built a really good team that is laser focused, not on the pricing side of it, but also trying to make sure that they really understand the entire scope of the project, the time lines of the project and how exactly we're going to execute it. And doing that well in advance even before they get to a quotation on those projects.
So they've kind of done it from a very holistic perspective, but they do it with a level of detail that is really important for that business. And so we may have had some of your folks go into the other parts of our business. So we're definitely taking some of that knowledge, and we're certainly transferring it elsewhere.
The pricing side of it for Rockwell, yes, we have a renewed energy around pricing, pricing discipline and price realization was strong last year. It's going to come down slightly this year, but again, still really good opportunities to get price for us as an organization. And I think when you take that and you combine it with what we're doing on operational excellence, and I'm sure we'll talk about that more here in a moment. But when you combine getting price realization with operational excellence, that's where you get really strong margin expansion.
Yes. No, in all seriousness. Clearly, you have stated margin targets. But just talking about long-term margin opportunity for Rockwell. What are the biggest levers that you have operationally going forward? In the context here, you have achieved $110 million in savings in fiscal '24, $325 million in '25. You do have a comprehensive list of initiatives driving the margins. What have been the biggest drivers so far, i.e., what are couple of KPIs that have had a disproportionate impact and what's going to drive margins over the next 12 to 24 months?
Yes. So any time you start down the road on a larger productivity program like the one that Rockwell has been going down, you have to have kind of short-term, medium-term and long-term objectives because the longer-term ones, they take time to execute, right? And so you need to have the ability to be able to get good yield, good savings and productivity in the early days, while also working on the things that are going to take longer to give that yield to it.
And so the way we phase this program, we definitely had that, good, bad or otherwise, I mean, the early part of our savings and obviously, the larger part of the savings early for us was in head count reduction. So we went from 30,000 heads as an organization down to the 26,000 neighborhood, right? So there's real savings there. Then at the same time we were doing that, we were also doing a lot more around productivity. So that was, again, multilayered. Direct material negotiation and getting savings from our suppliers, that can happen really fast, and it did happen really fast for us.
When you're going further down in things like in-sourcing and doing more things for ourselves. Well, that takes time to put it in place where you have to buy machinery, you have to buy -- you have to do some training. You have things -- put things in place. Sometimes you have to deplete the inventory of what you're buying from suppliers. So those are longer-term objectives. And so we're staging that such that we're going to continue to get a yield well into the future. That program, more than $400 million over an 18-month window, and that's structural cost savings. Those costs are now coming back into the organization. We're not done.
So it did transition. It transitioned from what we call a -- what we were calling cost savings and margin expansion to now it's just productivity and it's actually built into our overall Rockwell operating model. So we're not spiking it out anymore. For sure, from an investor perspective, I understand that there was -- they like the visibility around what we're getting on yield on that every quarter. At the same time, I think we all can agree that organizations that constantly have a target around productivity every quarter that they're talking about. I'm sure in this conference or other discussions, you'd be saying, "Geez, it seems like Rockwell is always restructuring. They're always -- you always have these cost out things you're doing, what's going on there?" And the reality is continuous improvement, right? We want it to be part of our culture, part of everything, what we do every day.
And so the result of that is that we're not going to be giving that level of visibility anymore, but know that it's definitely happening. We had really good yield in the first quarter. We're tracking very nicely for the second quarter, and we got a great plan for the second half of this year. And right now, we're building the funnel for 2027.
But generally, if and when volumes accelerate, you should have nice operating leverage given what you're doing?
We should. Yes, it will flow through nicely. And especially with our business, we've got -- gross margins are good for us. So we do have the ability to get some nice leverage when the volume starts flowing.
And the other thing, as you sort of -- what's interesting, you sort of talked about and you have these 2 metrics you're highlighting, cost to produce and ROI investment model. Can you expand on that? Because that's something new, a couple of years in. Can you just -- why these metrics and what does it mean operationally?
Yes. So this is -- again, we have a really strong culture at Rockwell. And so we want to continue to build off of that culture. One of the things that as we transition from a more asset-light organization to a more asset intensity organization, we had to give the right tools to the team so that they knew that there were bigger changes that were happening. So you can't go to more asset intensity and more investment in ourselves without really giving a really strong model for us to use across the organization. So that's how we developed a new ROI model, not to say that we weren't doing ROI models before. We were, but it was different. So Matt's business had ROI models. They were using, which was different than other segments, which was different than what was happening in our manufacturing side of our business. We now have the exact same model that's being used throughout the organization, which allows all of us to be in a position to be able to compare the returns on each of these investments.
Now that's one aspect of it. And then you brought up the cost to produce. The cost to produce is we are a manufacturer. We have cost accounting like all manufacturers do, but cost accounting doesn't actually fully bring in all the cost that it takes to manufacture the product. That's really what we're doing is we're bringing in a much more holistic measure on everything it cost for us to produce that product. So think of it like cost accounting plus plus.
And the most important part is that we wanted to put it in a rightsized way so that organizationally, our manufacturing team can -- the objective is, is that year-over-year, if we're making the exact same things as last year in the exact same quantities, we should be able to make it at the same cost or less. And so we had to have a model in place in order to actually be able to do that comparison. So we have it in place now broadly by each factory. The next objective is to continue to take it down further and further into the organization so you can do it at the cellular level and then down to product families. I don't know if we're going to be able to get to SKUs, but that will be the holy grail if we can get there.
You've clearly alluded sort of reinvesting in your manufacturing. So how is your manufacturing footprint evolving with more focused on production capabilities and high CapEx spending, right? You have new greenfield facility, you're sort of highlighting what's happening in Twinsburg and Singapore. And you do have this $2 billion investment framework that you've highlighted on the slide. Can you just bring it together for us?
Yes, absolutely. So this is -- again, what we do as an organization is automation. And we have the capability and the opportunity to actually bring a lot more automation into our own operations. It started in Singapore. Singapore was -- it's one of our locations that has a narrower SKU profile. I think compared to a lot of other companies, it still has a lot of SKUs. And so we're continuing to work on that. But it has a narrower SKU profile, which allows them to have more volume in each of those SKUs. The result is that, that's some of the easiest areas to at least go after automation first.
So we did that in Singapore first. Think of that as a pilot. We took those learnings. We're now doing that in our Twinsburg, Ohio facility. And so we're starting to scale that up. Twinsburg is a much larger facility, has a lot more breadth of SKUs, and continue to learn from that. That will inform and continues to inform us as we think about our next opportunity, which is a greenfield facility that we announced in New Berlin, Wisconsin. That's going to be about a 1 million square foot facility that is going to be purpose-built for Rockwell and it is going to be purpose-built, not thinking automation only, but actually autonomy. We are trying to take our operations in Singapore, Twinsburg and then in New Berlin all the way to autonomous operations.
Now are we going to be able to fully get there? That'd be great, but it's a journey for us. And some of the parts that I'm most excited about, I'm excited about, obviously, what it can do for us for the P&L and what it does for us for our employees. But I'm also really excited about what it does for us with our customers, taking our customers along on that journey and being able to show them that in higher cost locations. I didn't -- Singapore, Ohio, Wisconsin, these are not low-cost locations. And so that allows us to show folks that you can have world-class manufacturing in a higher cost and higher labor cost location and be able to do it efficiently and get a great margin for the organization.
And what's pricing like today? What's the pricing environment? How do you think about inflation?
So we have an annual price increase that's going through next month, and that is a little bit later than what we did last year. So we had actually pulled forward our pricing last year. It was done in February of 2025. We're doing it in April of 2026. And then our normal cadence before all this was actually in June. We'll probably get back to that cadence. So we're going to go through a couple of month trough here without any price change, but it will be fine, we're good because we have the ability to get good price realization.
So we do have the ability to get price. We've been obviously getting tariff-based price ever since the tariff environment came into play. There are inflationary costs that are coming in that's built into our price change that we've got for April.
Excellent. And maybe just shifting a little bit to end market and growth vectors. Can we talk about your exposure to life sciences. I think it was one of the bubbles you sort of highlighted. What do you do there? What are you seeing in the market, lots to talk about potential reshoring in the U.S. We actually estimate it can be as big or bigger than semis, and you do have a lot more exposure on life sciences than you do in semis. What are you seeing just maybe even beyond GLP-1? You have some very large customers in the U.S. Maybe you can talk about that.
Yes. Life sciences is one of the growth verticals for us longer term, and we are well positioned there on many fronts. And actually, it's the one end market where we have the most concentration of software and services.
If you look at where we play, it's really across the value chain. So you mentioned GLP-1 and beyond that, GLP-1 is a great growth driver for us right now with our customers. So you have the end users, you have the SIs, the contract manufacturers that support them that's trying and helping build out that and accelerate time to market to have that supply. We're working with med devices also that are very tightly coupled with that.
We also support other parts, other growth factors. For example, CGT, cell and gene therapy, ATMP, a lot more personalized medicine, personalized therapies, which is really necessitating a lot more flexible, much more modular kind of manufacturing, which is perfect for our technology, including our Logix, our control platform.
Our software, whether it's digital engineering, digital twin, MES, Manufacturing Execution Systems, quality, regulatory compliance. I mean that is what we excel at. And so digital is a big part of what we offer. Cybersecurity is key. It's an important part of every conversation with our customers. And we're working really with the global companies. It's a global pursuit. Now in Q1 for us, we did see some delays that were just more transitory on some projects, but we do -- we are very bullish on life sciences.
So those delays should get there in Q2, those come back?
Correct. We have not changed our guidance.
And maybe just jumping into e-commerce and warehouse automation. Those are relatively small but a big driver for your discrete business, right, I think, up 60% in the first quarter. Can you just tell us what's going on here? What products do we have here? And why is it up 60%?
Sure. I mean some of it is comps. We are guiding to 10% for the full year. So it's a great growth rate above company average.
The guide in the data center business is 10%, too. But yes.
Data center is a piece of that end market. And so we have e-commerce and warehouse automation, and then there's a portion of our data center business that also is in that bucket. And we're seeing growth across different types of customer segments. Clearly, the e-commerce players, and there is continued investment in automating those fulfillment centers, it's continuing. You see traditional retailers who have a lot of older warehouses that need to be updated, labor shortage and labor cost. It's a big impediment, it's a big challenge for our customers. And so they're looking at more autonomous ways to manage their facilities.
Parcel companies, we had some of them at our Investor Day. They're reimagining the network of their sorting facilities. So again, what they're using is our software, Emulate3D, digital twin. They're using our core automation, our largest controllers, our drives, our HMIs. So it's really the full...
So it's basically, effectively, it's the comeback of fulfillment centers for e-commerce, which was on pause post-COVID and data center control center?
Data center as well as -- so what we see, the portion of our data center business that resides there is really that Cubic, our power distribution, think of module and motor control centers that help with that faster data center build out.
We do think that a durable broader overall growth drivers is really just fulfillment. The flexibility, consumer needs for that, a lot more of that investment and scale to it.
And speaking about sort of warehouses. Can you just talk about progress on Clearpath and OTTO Motors acquisition, what are the key KPIs that you're focusing on?
Yes. So the Clearpath business has grown nicely. It's been a double-digit grower ever since we bought it. Our expectation is it's going to grow double digits again this year. Clearly, for us, from a KPI, that top line growth is really important. We're expecting that it's going to stick in that double digits for quite some time. We do think it's a really nice spot to be in.
Another key KPI for us is also profitability. So this business, we were always -- from the day we acquired it, we knew that it was going to be a loss maker as we were focusing on growth and integrating it in our business until 2026. We're still planning on -- so we're staying in the same plan as we always had, which is that we're going to turn to profitability in the second half of this year.
But the growth has been in line with your plan?
Yes.
Okay. And maybe just sort of going back rather on the same thing on the control systems. I think battery, EV battery, that was a big focus. And then EVs didn't happen. But then what is happening is a lot of battery energy storage system. And I think when we're at PACK Expo like 6 months ago, the message was, "Hey, this EV battery business is holding up way better than we would have thought because there is this path to battery energy storage systems behind the meter." You talked about having control systems there. You benefit from, A, you have control system, I think, for the BESS and then you benefit from actually making the batteries. Can we talk about that? How big is that for you? What are you seeing? Are we back from the growth path there? Just expand there.
Sure. First of all, there's still investment in EV. Now it's not happening at the same clip that, of course, that it used to, but there's still investments. So we talked about Hyundai, Rivian and Lucid. What we're seeing with automotive with our brand owners is really investment in multi-energy powertrain, traditional ICE, hybrid and EV. Battery in terms of BESS, it's not really kind of a stand-alone project request that's coming in from our automotive customers, it's really more part of the broader story of energy management overall. And that's what we do in terms of what our software provides, our hardware, our solutions. It's integrated energy management, right?
And so it's making sure that whether it's from the grid, it's on-site generation with other sources and making sure that there is a plant level of resilience and sustainability. And so for us, it's an additional driver. It's the same set of technologies. We don't need something additional to be able to serve that. So it's part of our overall proposition story. But right now, with what our customers are looking for is really more of a broader level.
But is it fair to say that there has been this handoff in the industry from the EV story to behind the meter energy storage system or it's just not enough?
It's some of that, but it's a lot less focused on just a standalone utility of storage and it's more how can you have a broader energy management and managing your cost volatility.
Excellent. We're right on time. Thanks so much. It's been great.
All right. Thank you. Thank you for having us.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Rockwell Automation — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
Rockwell Automation — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Strategie: Rockwell betont Wachstum plus Profitabilität: organisches Wachstum (CAGR-Ziel durch Markt-Exposure), ARR-Ausbau und Margin-Expansion durch Operational Excellence.
- Kapitalallokation: Übergang zu gezielteren CapEx-Investitionen und mehr Asset-Intensity (geplante $2 Mrd. Investition über 5 Jahre) zur Automatisierung und Skalierung eigener Fertigung.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Wachstumsmodell: Langfristiger Algorithmus = schnellere Endmarkt-CAGRs + 3–5% Marktanteilsgewinn + ARR-Wachstum; Guide-Mittelwert für 2026: 4% (Range 2–6%).
- Margenziele: Ziel Konzern-EBIT-Marge 23,5%; Leitlinie 2026 bei ~21,5%; Lifecycle Services bereits im Zielkorridor, Intelligent Devices noch am weitesten entfernt.
- Technologie & AI: Fokus auf OT/Level‑2‑3-Kontrolle und enge Hardware‑Software‑Integration; Agentic/On‑prem‑AI als Differenzierer für Anlagensteuerung, MES‑Integration und Predictive Maintenance.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- M&A‑Pipeline: Nach Pause arbeitet Management wieder aktiv an Aufbau von Akquisitionsmöglichkeiten — kein Close‑Datum genannt.
- Fertigung: Automatisierungspilot in Singapur, Scale‑Up in Twinsburg (OH) und geplantes 1 Mio. sqft Greenfield in New Berlin (WI) mit Ziel autonome Produktion.
- ARR‑Trends: ARR ≈10% des Geschäfts; Software‑ARR wächst überdurchschnittlich, Services‑ARR kurzfristig gebremst durch verschobene, eher diskretionäre Projekte.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Prioritäten: Management nennt Topline‑Wachstum und profitable Skalierung (Produktentwicklung + operative Exzellenz) als Board‑Fokus.
- Makro & Guidance: Starkes Q1 (double‑digit Umsatzwachstum) — Guide bleibt konservativ; Update nach Q2 geplant; Management erwartet moderate sequentielle Verbesserung.
- Margenhebel: Diskutiert wurden Einsparungen (>$400M innerhalb 18 Monaten), Pricing‑Disziplin, Materialverhandlungen, In‑sourcing und ROI‑Modell sowie Übertragbarkeit von Lifecycle‑Best‑Practices auf andere Segmente.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Kernauswirkung: Rockwell präsentiert einen klaren Fahrplan: organisches Wachstum plus wiederkehrende Erlöse und strukturelle Produktivitätsprogramme sollen Margen und langfristiges Wachstum stützen. Kurzfristig bleibt Wachstumslayout konservativ, aber operative Investitionen (Fabriken, Automation, AI) und eine wiederbelebte M&A‑Pipeline erhöhen die optionale Upside für Aktionäre.
Rockwell Automation — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
All right. We're moving right along here with Christian and Aijana from Rockwell. Thanks for joining us.
Thanks for having us. Yes, morning.
Absolutely. Maybe you just want to kick off with a few comments on -- I think your CEO was down at competitor conferences, made a comment about organic growth potentially this year being within the long-term range of 5% to 8% your guide is 2% to 6% or whatever it is right now. So maybe clarify whatever need to do on those comments and also we'll get into bid in orders, and we'll go from there.
Sure. Absolutely. So thanks for having us. I appreciate this. It's a good conference. Good to be in D.C. This is actually the first time for me doing an investor conference in D.C. So this is a good venue. So -- yes, we started off the year well for Rockwell. So we're -- we completed our first quarter at the end of the last calendar year. And our top line growth, double digits, really strong profitability.
So we beat our own expectations from both the top line and the bottom line. So it was a really good start to the year. At the same time, as an organization, we typically do not change our guide after the first quarter. We did have an interesting benefit. It was a onetime benefit that we had from a perspective that helped us to the tune of about $0.10 in the first quarter. So we did update our guide, reflecting just that one change.
So the midpoint of our guide went up by $0.10 from the initial guide at the end of Q4 to the end of Q1 guide that we gave. Now that being said, we did have an outperform on the top line. I think Blake was responding to a question. I wasn't actually at the conference, so I have plausible deniability here. But I think Blake was responding to a question around the fact that, well, you guys started off a little bit higher than what you had expected.
The midpoint of your guide on the organic side is 4%, 5% if you include FX. And the question was around, do you see a scenario where you could get into that kind of more longer-term range, which for us, the organic growth range that we talk about, the CAGR mid-cycle to mid-cycle is a 5% to 8% organic. And so -- yes, potentially because that is, of course, covered within the band because the band on our guide for the full year was and continues to be 2% to 6% with 4% at the midpoint. So yes, if we edge higher, then it could take us into that 5% to 8% range.
Yes. And I'll just add that customer conversations are positive. Customer quoting consistent to be very strong, continues to be strong. ISM indicators are constructive. On the flip side, you continue to see trade uncertainty and heightened geopolitical volatility. And so there are puts and takes. But in general, we feel good about our ability to win. And once we see that broad-based order intake across a much broader set of end markets for us, that's what we'll be able to increase our guidance.
And when you think about the drivers and ISM, what end markets are you guys watching that could be swing factors on this front? And we're asking everybody, obviously, any early thoughts on what's happening globally? And how that's impacting sentiment or sales near term? There are some companies with a higher sales in Middle East.
Sure. I can start. I mean if you look at what's embedded in our guide, 4% organic growth, right, top line growth, mid-single-digit growth across discrete 'and hybrid and low single-digit growth in process. We have some outliers, some standout performers. E-com and warehouse supposed to grow 10%. And we have some that are flattish, like semiconductor.
So if you look at what could actually improve to drive us to get to a higher end of our range, an improvement in automotive, even higher growth in some of the bigger end markets for us like food and beverage, more investment in process. So it's really around those. But in terms of where we're right now, we think those are good assumptions to have.
Yes. And then regarding the Middle East and what's been going on there for us, the Middle East is a relatively low exposure, I think low single digit -- very low single digits. And obviously, it's early days to really know what the exact impact for us and the follow-on impact. I think generally, themes around uncertainty and what that does to the broader macro environment, whether you're talking about that region or a broader part of the world, anything that brings uncertainty is something that is problematic. But at the same time, for us, the direct exposure is relatively limited.
How close do you guys have been talking about this kind of project pipeline and a decent amount of your revenue is CapEx related. It's not all new projects, of course, probably much smaller percentage of greenfield stuff. But the brownfield stuff still is a -- not an MRO, it's a CapEx type project. How close -- everybody talking about these pipelines, do you see all this news? How close are we to seeing some of that stuff really move in mass?
Well, certainly not close enough for us to change our guide, right? But certainly, we did see areas where there's investment. And it's not just brownfield upgrades and big migrations and new capacity, but also greenfields. And we talk about them on our earnings calls. It's data center, it's semiconductor, it's life sciences, it's parts of food and beverage.
E-commerce and warehouse automation is not necessarily viewed as that kind of a big greenfield or mega project, but that's really good business for us. And there's a lot of modernization there, and it's continuing to be a driver of growth for us. So we do see it. We see it in parts of process that are tied to data center, right, power. The AI constraints are driving a lot of investment there by hyperscalers and colocation companies.
So we see that, and we talked about these big projects growing strong double digits year-over-year. It's part of our guide. To the extent it becomes more a broader investment, more in mass, as you said, we'll be able to talk more about it and have higher growth.
And just taking a step back, there's been a bit of debate, I guess, around the order rates or the book-to-bill in the first quarter. Maybe you want to clarify, I know the Life Sciences book-to-bill seasonally was pretty solid. And I think the takeaway from the call was that book-to-bill in total was around 1, which would imply that the products book-to-bill is below 1, just definitionally. Maybe you want to clarify that right into.
I'll take a swing at that and Aijana, you can jump in if I miss any aspect around it. So Rockwell historically, if you go back pre-supply chain crisis, pre-COVID, organizationally, we've always had a book-to-bill that's in the neighborhood of 1. And when I say in the neighborhood of 1, it's a band, right? It's -- and especially for us, seasonality is important.
So the first 3 quarters of the year tend to be a book-to-bill that's a little bit above 1. And the fourth quarter of the year, just because we completed a lot of project activity, it tends to be just below 1. But overall, for us, when we say about 1, that's really what we're talking about. That is a book-to-bill could be slightly above 1, and we'll still say that it's about 1.
And so if you look at the -- sorry, so during the supply chain crisis, especially as we went through the destock time horizon, we were giving detail to the Street around what our incoming orders were, and we did that in order to make sure that there was really good visibility on what was specifically happening in the destock cycle. Once that settled in and we had gotten past that moment and that book-to-bill had gotten back to being right on top of each other at about 1, we decided that it was time to take that data point away because -- and we always intended that the data point was going to go away.
We put it in there for that window of time. And so we did that, what, 5 quarters ago, I think now. And the reality is that if -- and we've got our own internal process in place that says, hey, if it goes outside this corridor, we're going to tell folks. We're going to give that visibility again, and it hasn't gone outside that corridor. So it's been right around that 1 number. So you certainly shouldn't look at the Q1 performance because I mean, when we say about 1, and we have Lifecycle Services that was a 1.16, which is one segment of our business, we do actually give book-to-bill for that segment because it is more of a project and solutions-related business.
So we give that visibility. But just because that one was 1.16, you should definitely not take it to being that we are below 1 on the rest of the business because that is -- that wouldn't -- that would be the wrong conclusion to come to.
So within the corridor doesn't necessarily mean at 1, it could be above 1 within that corridor which classified, and that's makes more sense.
The ISM has -- obviously, people look at that as an indication, but I think it's obviously decoupled in certain periods of time. Are we kind of back to -- are we in a normal enough environment now where the ISM is more useful than it's been through the whole supply chain period?
I think it's more useful, but it's not -- it's one of many data points we look at, right? So ISM being constructive is a positive, it's not the only thing. We look at other areas. We talk about unemployment, we look at consumer health. We look at what are we hearing from our customers. Ultimately, they vote their wallets. And so that's what we talk about order intake across industries. That's what drives our guide and our confidence in getting there.
Yes. And honestly, there's lots of different data points for sure, there's nothing more important for us than what we had for orders in the most recent period, whatever that period is we're looking at. And I think Steve actually do a really good job of pulling apart the data points that make up the ISM. And I think not every ISM is equal as far as those data points go. So some of those are also really important for us as we those as well. And ultimately, how that translates to industrial production is also super important.
Like you're talking within the ISM, like new orders, inventory index or something like that.
Right. Exactly.
Yes. Yes. And the last ISM was a little bit punky with the prices paid and inventories. On the secular aspects of the story, maybe talk about what you're seeing on the whole onshoring theme and maybe which verticals are you seeing the most activity around.
Yes. Steve, it's really tied to the early discussion we had. We look kind of lump whether it's shoring, new capacity expansion, mega projects, all into this one bucket because it's really the same set of technologies we provide across those different types of projects and across different types of industries because we are largely horizontal from a technology standpoint.
So we track and we talked about if it's a greenfield activity, a lot of it is data center, data center, semiconductor, life sciences, a lot of big brownfield expansions and projects we see in food and beverage, parts of personal care. warehouse automation is a big one. We talked about it, whether it's partial companies, whether it's e-commerce players, traditional retailers, there's a lot of need for automation there.
So we see that. So process. So critical infrastructure, especially in the U.S., is aging. It needs to be upgraded. And whether it's more power that's needed to fuel AI needs, whether it's more resilience and energy management on the traditional oil and gas, whether it's chemicals and water and industrial water, again, to serve the needs, increasing needs of data center, there's opportunity to upgrade and provide that automation and digital and software and services to drive that upgrade. So we're feeling good about it. It's across different industries. But as I mentioned earlier, it just -- it hasn't happened where it's happening across a broader set of industries for us yet.
Auto is not a huge market for you guys anymore, but it still seems to be like a bit of a swing factor and obviously a good indication of an economically sensitive part of the economy where there's investments. What's the complexion of auto investments these days? And whether it's EVs or ICE and what types of projects are you seeing on the auto side?
Yes. What we're seeing there is a lot more focus now on traditional ICE and hybrid. Certainly, EV is still an area of investment, and we talk about Hyundai, we talk about Rivian and Lucid in terms of their investments in EV as well. But what our customers, the brand owners and the tier suppliers who support them, what they're doing is looking at what the consumer wants, right?
They're looking at the consumer adoption and they want to be lockstep with their needs. And a lot of it is, okay, it's a combination of traditional internal combustion engine vehicles and hybrid. And our technology is very well positioned to serve those needs. Clearly, automotive customers have been challenged. First, they have to deal with the evolving consumer needs. And then, of course, we have this trade uncertainty, tariffs, geopolitical volatility. And they have to decide what their road maps going forward.
They have a much better clarity on what they want to do, where they want to invest. Right now, what we see is a lot of investments in AI and MES and modernization and productivity. Once there's more stability, we do expect CapEx to pick up. We're not counting on it in our guide, but there's a lot of optimism there, of course.
And to your point, it's a little more I guess, software specific? Or are you seeing -- is it Logix rich? Is there upgrading the hardware as well?
Oh, yes. When we talk about whether it's productivity, modernization, it's a combination of hardware, software and services. You have Logix, you have our HMI, you have our drives, you have our software, a lot of -- there's a lot of opportunity to increase throughput, increase quality even in a very automated industry like automotive with software. That's where our manufacturing execution system software comes in. AI, process optimization. And so -- yes.
I don't think we can forget the -- don't forget the AMRs.
Absolutely. Autonomous mobile robots, they have been a game changer, especially with the labor force, scarce labor force and the cost going up. And so we see that in automotive, but also broadening across other industries as well.
And your AMR exposure, what's the revenue base now, and that's growing, I would assume, pretty fast.
We haven't shared the exact number, but we have shared it when we first acquired it. So it's not a big part of our Intelligent Devices revenue today, but it's been growing double digits, and it's slated to continue to grow in double digits. And importantly, we expect it to turn profitable later this year.
And maybe just talk about the applications there, just a bit of back up a little bit, explain the strategic rationale of the deal and then what you're seeing, what new applications you're seeing here that are driving growth?
Absolutely. And if you look at what this acquisition provided was really an ability to serve a white space. Production logistics is basically moving material from one assembly line to another assembly line or to the finished goods line in the production facility. So it's not necessarily in a warehouse or somewhere else, it's more in a manufacturing environment, which is what our customers do across many different industries.
And so they might have very automated manufacturing cells, production lines, but you still have a person pushing a carton from one side to another or someone driving a manual forklift. So the opportunity was to see how can we make that movement more autonomous, more safe, AI optimized and also feeding all that information into our FactoryTalk platform.
So at all times, we know what's happening, where are the opportunities for further improvement in productivity, would there be some safety issues? How can you continue to optimize real time? And that opportunity to integrate mobile automation, the mobile robot with our fixed automation, with our controllers, with the MES, right, with our FactoryTalk, that's something that no one else has. And it's a business that's slated to continue growing strong double digits. And so it's an opportunity for us to differentiate and none of our competitors have that.
And I think it's like born out of the warehouse environment, but you said you're applying it in auto. Is it something that can be really across the food and beverage...
Yes. Food and beverage. So we have wins in food and beverage, home and personal care, life sciences. We have some pilots in semiconductor. We even have some actual use cases in warehouse, it's just not the primary focus. But if you think about some of the irregular payloads that are needed there in the fulfillment. But it's really across the board. Anywhere you need to move things around.
Okay. From a hardware perspective, also just Logix, where are we in kind of the Logix growth cycle? You guys went down a lot. I think you're up a lot. Where are we in that continuum?
Yes. Logix has recovered really nicely from where we were. There was -- certainly, when we talk about destock, Logix was definitely part of that destock cycle. That's definitely behind us. When we look at the volume of Logix, that is when you adjust for pricing changes that have happened, we believe that this year, we're going to be back at kind of around the 2019 level and that implied in that is that we're going to have some good growth the remainder of this year. It has been a good grower for us over the last several quarters as well. So Logix has been a really good story that's been part of the broader Rockwell good story that's happened over the last 4 or 5 quarters.
And from a mix perspective, I know it's accretive to the company average. Is it also accretive to the segment average from a mix perspective? You got a lot of software in there as well.
Yes, there's a lot of software in there as well. So they're both highly profitable, and we'll -- we're happy with the volume that comes, whether it comes in software or in Logix.
Is there a new innovation in Logix that could emerge in the next several years? Or is that refresh happened? And what kind of technology road map in Logix for the next 3 to 5 years?
Absolutely. We continue to innovate. In fact, we just launched our L9 controller that has even more performance features in a lot of different applications. We are talking about software-defined automation, and that's also slated to launch soon. We continue to innovate. And the important part is that innovation cycle continues to accelerate. What maybe took several years, if not more, to develop from a hardware standpoint for the next launch.
Now it could be every year, every few years with a lot more features. And then, of course, on the software side and services side, we launched in a much more agile way, right, very frequent releases. Importantly, what we're doing is it's embedding AI across that whole stack, and it's not just controllers. It's not just the Logix AI, but it's Guardant AI. It's AI in our intelligent devices. It's AI in our control, AI in our software, including Plex and Fix and in our services as well.
Maybe we can just talk about that aspect where I think there was some chatter, I guess, I'd call it a couple of weeks ago about the threats from AI disruption in manufacturing from some venture capital funded things. Maybe your message about how defendable your software is and then obviously, how defendable your position is on the plant floor from disruption that has to do with the emergence of AI.
Sure. Just to level set, software, stand-alone software is less than 10% of our total revenue. We certainly have a lot of embedded software that's in our hardware that makes it very valuable and smart. We also have annual recurring revenue. It's a metric that measures recurring software and recurring services. That's in that 10% of revenue range as well.
So if you look at the composition of our software, of our stand-alone software, it's a combination of our design and automation software, which is what our customers buy and use to digitally simulate to emulate, to design the automation systems and then to interact with them throughout the cycle. They are tightly integrated. Yes, they are sold separately, but they're tightly integrated with the embedded hardware systems that are on the plant floor.
So very strong moat there and decades of expertise, domain expertise there. And we continue to innovate there using AI, for example, with Gen AI, how we help the productivity in terms of software development and how much quicker you can do that using natural language instructions, for example. So that's one aspect. The other part of it is really executing production orders on a plant floor.
It's telling which part of the car to show up to which manufacturing cell at the right time to optimize the process to increase the throughput, right? So manufacturing execution system software, it's mission-critical. It's interacting with the processes that are moving in microseconds, right? Just think about high-speed packaging or processes on a plant floor that have people around them. So very strong moat there as well.
I mean you don't have the luxury of having an AI hallucinate something or -- and deviate from the process because you can lose millions of dollars if something is not actually performing the way it should be. And also in worse, you can have a lot of safety issues with people that are interacting with the processes. So we have a very strong moat. The way we look at AI, whether it's software or hardware, is really as an enabler.
It is -- as I mentioned earlier, we're looking at it from a very practical standpoint. Our customers already have a lot of our offerings, our controllers, our drives, our sensors, our software. We are working with them to figure out and to help them embed AI within that, right? So we have Logix AI, Guardant AI, Vision AI, [ Cote ] AI, so they can actually drive benefits. They can see that with what they have. Now of course, at some point, they will have to upgrade some of that hardware or if they're using our hardware from previous generations, they will need to have something newer to be able to handle the compute power, the cybersecurity needs, the safety needs that are inherent in the process. But we are looking at it in terms of what's the best ROI for customers, the best sequence of how to do it.
And we have our digital consulting group to help them. That's what they do all day long. They work with our customers, the C-suite to figure out, okay, what's the best way to tackle it? What's the business case? Does it make sense? And importantly, we do it for ourselves. So we talked about how we do rock on rock. We use AI in our own facilities, in our plants. We use our AMRs in our facilities. We use our digital twin offering in our facilities to drive productivity. And we are an automation leader. We -- our plants are automated, but there's still a lot of opportunity to drive even more productivity and margin expansion.
Right. I mean that's what's been interesting about this kind of software debate is the indiscriminate nature of how they're looking at mission-critical [indiscernible] software?
Yes. One more thing I'll just add on the AI front really quickly. AI thrives on having a lot of data to be able to train the agents and the models. The data that's flowing through our PLC and the data that's flowing through our MES software, billions of transactions that are happening daily, its proprietary -- it's not available in the public domain. So we are using that data to train our models to be even more robust and effective, but it's not available for anyone else to train.
Right. And so while the customer has the data for their specific recipe of how they make Pepsi or Coke or something like that, the data that's coming off the equipment that relates to productivity, machine uptime, all this kind of stuff, you actually see that data and you can leverage that data into your development process.
Absolutely. We aggregate data and anonymize it, and we can drive a lot of great outcomes for customers across many different industries. Absolutely.
Yes. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. Just lastly, it's a big market for you guys on process. I know you touched a bit on what's growing there, but what's kind of the outlook for process? And it's a big market for you guys. What are you seeing there?
Yes. I mean we're not guiding to anything heroic. What's embedded in our guidance is low single-digit growth for the entire process segment. Within that, of course, we have some differences. You have energy, you have -- which includes for us, oil and gas, renewables and traditional power. You have chemicals, mining, pulp and paper, water and some of the other ones. And a lot of what we see really is focused on capital discipline and productivity. We haven't seen a lot of big CapEx investments yet.
At the same time, we have seen investments to drive power for data center needs. And that is touching traditional power, that's touching energy, that's touching other areas of process. So we have a good opportunity. We also look at gaining share, and we look at competitive conversions, and we think we're well positioned. But we'll have to see what the CapEx environment is. As we mentioned before, it has been pretty tepid.
So just moving to the bottom line. I know that's been a big focus on the margin front and the productivity and the SKU rationalization that you guys have talked about some really strong strides here early on. Maybe talk about your confidence and timing on the 23.5% margin. And then how much opportunity do we go do we have?
Yes, absolutely. So highly confident that we're going to be able to drive towards that 23.5% segment operating margin for the total company. I haven't given a time frame on that. We did actually change -- this started off that target when we originally put it in place, we call it a long-term target. We changed it last November at our Investor Day to a medium-term target.
So I guess we did pull that time frame in a bit. So we're still a couple of hundred basis points out from -- based off of our guide for fiscal '26 to where we need to go for that 23.5%, trajectory has been good. There's a lot of activity that's going on inside the organization. You hit on a number of them, and I think they're all important. Volume certainly drives that. We've got a really good pricing discipline and good pricing motion right now that's helping with that.
We've got activities that are happening from an operational excellence perspective. So we have done some SKU rationalization. We probably dropped the number of SKUs by upwards of 10% over the last 18 months, give or take. There's more work that's happening there. I would say that the low-hanging fruit is behind us, but we are working on demand shaping because that demand shaping is super important for us to think about getting good flow through the factories and getting good productivity.
And then we have the continuation of what originally was our cost reduction and margin expansion program to now a longer-term productivity and operational excellence program. That is we're not putting targets out there anymore for the public domain. We certainly have targets and they're very well known inside of our operations, but we're not talking about it publicly because this is a way of life for us now. Continuous improvement is never going to end at Rockwell. We're making it part of our livelihood. We want to make sure that we're doing that in every which way.
So the number of projects, this is the most interesting part for me is that as you get into these programs and you go from transition from a moment in time to a way of life, you certainly can take your eye off the ball. The good news is that we've got a really good muscle memory that we've built. And so the number of projects that we have in our system right now are more today than what they were 12 months ago, 18 months ago. Now the average size of those projects, they're smaller.
That's not necessarily surprising because, again, we've taken some of that early action where you're going after the bigger opportunities. Now they're smaller opportunities, but this is how you do it. This is how you build really strong margin profiles, both on the gross margin and the operating margin side, and you do it for the long term and you're not doing with little blips, you're instead doing it the hard way, you're getting it the hard way, and that's the way it becomes sticky.
When you look at the different buckets of opportunity, where are you seeing the most success where you're ahead of plan? And where are you seeing maybe ones that are a little bit more of a heavy lift? Clearly, you're -- I think you're outperforming what I would have expected. So on net, it's better. But where are you -- where are the easy wins and where are the tough ones?
Yes. I mean the hardest one just from a difficult leadership perspective, but the one that, of course, is probably the easiest and the best yield possible is on headcount reduction. That's -- for the most part, that's behind us. So we did that very early on in the process. And the good news about what we're doing is that we actually have it staged out.
So there are things that have kind of in-year, 4-year benefits, but then there's also longer-term benefits. So material cost, negotiating with -- on the direct material side, doing things with indirect spend, that all happened fairly early on, too. Now we've got a really good activity around trying to make sure those costs don't eke back into the business. So that part is good.
On the medium-term side, we are doing some more in-sourcing. We're doing more things for ourselves. We're trying to take people out of our profit pool. So that's not just on the manufacturing side, that's actually happening in the SG&A side as well. And then the longer-term stuff, we're really looking at kind of reimagining our manufacturing footprint, reimagining how we actually build our own product.
And that is really -- it's taking -- that one is more around a transition of mindset, going from an asset-light organization to one that's more asset-intensive and going back to pick up areas of the profit pool that have been left for others to take because we were outsourcing a lot of things. So that allows us to rethink of our manufacturing footprint while at the same time, bring more things in-house.
That one is hard. It takes a long time to do it, but Rockwell's got great tools for that. Emulate3D is a big help, the digital twin technology that we're using in our factories. So it's a heavier lift. It's going to be a longer time frame. But again, these are the kind of things that give us the ability to be able to do this for a long time into the future.
So should we think about assuming you get to 23.5%? When you look beyond that, do we have another kind of like hard target? Or do you think about it more as the algorithm? And just remind us of what your algorithm is today from an incremental margin perspective?
Yes. So these are all -- they all kind of go part and parcel together. So it starts with our growth algorithm, which is a 5% to 8% organic growth, which is made up of secular growth, market share gains as well as ARR driving the top line. And then the incremental margins that we're going to get from that growth is in the 35% range. And that's what we're signed up for as an organization.
And ultimately, that drives us to that 23.5% total company. We have that broken out by segment. You can certainly see that in our investor slides. And we have that in hand today. We know how we're going to get to that 23.5%. And we've got -- so we've got really good plans in place. When we do get to that point, when we achieve that and we come out with new targets, there will be tangible targets.
There's going to be tangible targets around what the margin profile is that we're looking for by segment, again, we -- and so we'll give a corridor for each segment. We'll give a total company average number that we're targeting. We'll also talk about the incrementals and what we expect that to be. And while we're doing that, we will also look at the top line growth algorithm. I'm not sure we're going to change it, but we're going to look at it, and we'll have that conversation when we get there.
Okay. So that's -- and that would be obviously -- we'd be able to kind of figure out a time frame using an incremental margin, you can kind of back into what time frame, I guess, that would be.
Yes, you would have to obviously come and put your own view on what the top line is going to be by period to period, but yes.
On pricing, where do we stand? There's a little bit of inflation, not so much where you guys? What you guys buy. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Are we kind of in a more normal pricing cadence? I think you're doing April?
Yes. So we're doing an April price increase that's known to our channel partners right now. We've given some visibility around that. We have 2 aspects of price that are happening. So that's our annual price increase, which is -- last year, we did our annual price increase early. We did it in February. This year, it's in April.
So we are going through a window of time just for a couple of months where we don't have an annual price increase against our comparable, but not super worried about that. So that's one aspect of what we do on price. There's another aspect, of course, that we're doing on pricing related to what happens with tariffs.
So if we can't avoid tariffs and ways using supply chain, we will go and we'll make adjustments to price in order to recover for that on both -- on the bottom line. And the objective around tariff-based pricing is we're looking for earnings neutrality. So that's in place right now. But overall, the pricing environment is still fine for us. If we enter into an inflationary period and we have to make other adjustments, we're in a position to respond to that.
Any questions? Okay. We're out of time. Thanks a lot, Chris.
Okay. Thanks.
Thank you.
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Rockwell Automation — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
Rockwell Automation — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Takeaway: Rockwell startet das Jahr stärker als erwartet (Q1: zweistelliges Umsatzwachstum, Profitabilitätsbeat) und hob die Guidance‑Mitte um $0,10 an. Die Firma bleibt vorsichtig: Guidance weiterhin 2–6% organisches Wachstum (Mitte 4%), mittelfristiges organisches Ziel 5–8%. Prognoseänderung nur punktuell; Makro- und geopolitische Risiken bleiben.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Margin‑Ziel: Ziel 23,5% Segment‑Betriebsmarge als Medium‑Term‑Ziel; Incremental‑Margen‑Erwartung ~35% aus Wachstum.
- Produkt & AI: Logix‑Plattform mit neuem L9‑Controller, „software‑defined automation“ und breite Einbettung von KI (z.B. Logix AI, Guardant AI) zur Produktivitätssteigerung.
- AMR‑Strategie: Integration von Autonomous Mobile Robots (AMR) mit FactoryTalk zur Unterscheidung vom Wettbewerb; erwartet zweistelliges Wachstum und Profitabilität später im Jahr.
- Operative Maßnahmen: SKU‑Rationalisierung (~10% Reduktion), Preisdisziplin (jährliche Erhöhung, April) und kontinuierliches Operational Excellence‑Programm.
🔍 Neue Informationen
- Guidance‑Update: Nur eine einmalige Verbesserung von $0,10 am Midpoint; keine breite Anhebung der Jahresprognose.
- AMR‑Outlook: AMR‑Geschäft wächst zweistellig und soll später im Jahr profitabel werden; konkrete Umsatzzahlen wurden nicht genannt.
- Produkte: L9‑Controller gelauncht; „software‑defined automation“ angekündigt — kein neuer quantitativer Guidance‑Punkt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Book‑to‑Bill: Management betont historisches „~1“ Corridor; Lifecycle Services lag bei 1,16, Rückschluss auf Restgeschäft wäre falsch.
- Endmarkt‑Risiken: Fokus auf Automotive, Food & Beverage, Data Center/Semiconductor und Process als mögliche Treiber für Upside; Middle‑East‑Exposition gering (sehr niedriger einstelliger Prozentsatz).
- Offene Punkte: Keine konkrete Zeithorizontangabe für Erreichen der 23,5%; keine exakten AMR‑Umsatzzahlen; Detailfragen zu Book‑to‑Bill und Kapex‑Timing blieben teilweise unbeantwortet.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Bewertung: Solider Konferenzauftritt: operatives Momentum und klare Margin‑Roadmap geben Zuversicht, jedoch ist der Jahresausblick nur marginal angepasst. Entscheidend für Aktie: Breite Auftragseingänge (Book‑to‑Bill), Beschleunigung von CapEx‑Projekten in Data Center/Automotive/Process sowie erfolgreiche Kommerzialisierung und Profitabilität der AMR‑Sparte.
Rockwell Automation — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
1. Question Answer
Great. Well, thanks, everyone, for being here. It's my pleasure to have up next, Rockwell Automation. We've got Blake Moret, Chairman and CEO; and also as Matheus Bulho, SVP of the Software & Control segment. So obviously, a very topical point of discussion around software right now.
So I appreciate you both being here. And Blake, I think you had a couple of prepared remarks for us.
Yes. Great. Thanks, Julian. So I know a lot of you have followed the name for a long time. I appreciate the interest this morning. I wanted to make a couple of comments to kind of frame the questions and answers.
So to start with, Rockwell has become a considerably more resilient company here in the last few years. If you look at the distribution verticals that we serve, you may be surprised to see that process is actually the single largest served vertical, and that certainly helps with value through the cycle. We've also added annual recurring revenue, a mix of software and high-value services, continues to grow well. It's profitable for the overall company and a little greater than 10%, that combination of the software and the services.
And then finally, really a redoubling of the focus on operational excellence. And you've seen that manifest itself certainly in terms of continual expanding margins here over the last year or so, and we have every intention of continuing that.
We have a great mix of offerings for verticals across discrete, hybrid and process end markets. And what we're aiming for is to be able to provide the best solutions in the production environment. And in fact, today, we are the most used technology in American manufacturing.
We introduced this growth algorithm in November of 2023 to reflect the strong secular attraction of automation and digital transformation, our confidence that we can gain share and add new served market as well as the contributions from annual recurring revenue and a modest contribution from acquisitions as well. We're taking a prudent approach to our guide this year, but there's a very good chance that we're going to be able to get into that 5% to 8% organic growth range as we move through the year.
We take an intentional approach to the end markets that we serve. Some of the areas that we're proud of our growth in that weren't traditional Rockwell strongholds would include things like data center, still small but fast-growing served market for us that I'm sure we'll talk about in a minute; other aspects of e-commerce and warehouse automation; life sciences as people, I think, are going to continue to want to live longer, healthier lives, and we have a very good offering in that area of high investment as well.
We have some important enabling technologies, software-defined automation, the pervasive use of artificial intelligence as well as integrating robotics into a complete automation system and, obviously, all guided by the domain expertise. The understanding of manufacturing in these specific applications still matters even with all the new tools.
We also introduced margin expectations by segment and we're making good progress there. We're already in the corridor for Lifecycle Services. We've seen that point reached with Software & Control, Matheus' business. We still have a little bit of ways to go in Intelligent Devices, but with some very specific plans to continue that journey in all of these businesses. And you should certainly not look at the upper end of those corridors of margin performance as an absolute ceiling. We have plans to go to and through these figures.
And we're going on offense. We've announced that we're going to be spending at a little higher level. I think it still keeps us in the asset-light category. But deploying capital in the service of increased market share and expanding margins, we believe, is a good bet to make. The primary areas are plants, talent and digital infrastructure. We're happy to talk a little bit more about that. But that's already started with our existing facilities, modernizing them, applying the same technologies that we sell to customers. And it's yielded some pretty impressive results of our own factories so far.
And then just to recap our full year outlook. Guide currently sits at 4% organic growth at the midpoint. But as I just said, I think there's a good chance that there can be some upward pressure on that. Mid-single-digit top line growth, double-digit growth in earnings, and we are intentionally focused on both.
So with that, we can get into the Q&A.
Fantastic. Thanks very much, Blake, for that. And maybe just to follow up on where you led off and concluded there. So you have the 2% to 6% organic sales growth guide for this year. You have that 5% to 8% medium-term goal, which you said there's a good chance of hitting this year. So maybe help us understand what explains that confidence at the upper end of that growth guide for this year looks more likely.
Sure. So the sentiment on the part of our customers is positive. What we are looking to see is that sentiment turn into actual orders across a little broader swath of our served verticals. So we certainly see it in some areas, e-commerce warehouse automation. We saw it in chemical actually in the first quarter. Our traditional markets were in growth, which is good, automotive, food and beverage, oil and gas.
But a lot of that activity still is in modernizations of existing facilities. Customers are still holding off on some of their larger capital projects. And while we're working closely with them on those quotations, looking at the impact of new technology to, in some cases, add to the original scope of supply, I'd like to see that show up in the orders a little bit more.
So that's kind of what we're looking at. Obviously, we have home field advantage, where so much of this investment is taking place in the U.S. with, by far, the largest installed base, the deepest relationships, the best channel and so on.
And if you focus on the U.S. in particular, I think a lot of investors are wondering, kind of U.S. short cycle industrial recovery, is it happening now after a lot of anticipation for 2-plus years? Sort of what's your perspective on that? How are you seeing CapEx intentions among your U.S. customer base?
So as we've talked about the last couple of investor days in November, there's a lot of CapEx that's been announced. And it's a nice split between some of the industries that are a little bit newer to us, like data center, and also traditional industries that we have a long history of serving in the U.S., food and beverage, energy, pharmaceutical and so on.
So I think it's a little bit early to sound the starting gun and say, it's here, the dam has burst. But our first quarter demonstrated that we are seeing a higher amount of orders for new capacity in the U.S. than we saw last year, for instance. It contributed to North America having the highest year-over-year growth. We do expect strong double digits for orders in that new capacity for the full year, but it was against high expectations as well.
Got it. And when you think about those customer sort of appetite on the double-digit new capacity growth, is that fairly broad-based, that double-digit orders growth? Or it's concentrated in a couple of industries?
I think it's fairly broad-based, what we've seen.
And then if we think about away from the product side, on Lifecycle Services, the backlog has been under some pressure, on and off in recent quarters. How do you see the demand outlook there?
Yes. So Lifecycle Services, actually, we see the comparables get easier through the year. We did start out with a strong book-to-bill ratio of 1.16 in Lifecycle Services. But that's where you see my earlier comment about customers are still holding back on some of that capital.
Now I should hasten to add, you shouldn't equate new capacity as just orders in Lifecycle Services. A lot of that new capacity will manifest itself in terms of Matheus shipping more Logix processors to a machinery builder who's serving one of the big end users, or an EPC, an engineering firm that is going to be sourcing that equipment and then supplying it to a system integrator.
So the margin profile of that new capacity business is actually pretty good. Don't assume that it's all in the lower-margin Lifecycle Services. Although, obviously, we've made some nice strides in increasing Lifecycle Services margins here in the last few years as well.
Great. And maybe, Matheus, sort of flesh out where we are in that PLC, the more sort of control side of your segment. There was a big restock then a destock then a restock again in PLCs. Where do you think we are in that product category versus kind of trend growth if we try and zoom out from the de- and restock ups and downs?
Yes. So you saw in our first quarter, we had a fairly good quarter for Logix, 20-plus percent year-over-year growth globally, in particular, North America, even higher, 25-plus percent year-over-year. We expect Logix to continue to improve. We're looking at second quarter sequentially low single digits and, for the full year, very much in line with the segment.
To your question on destocking, I think as you saw us comment on that during the call, that's behind us. We have very strong visibility into distributor inventory. We know what distributor shipments are and we can compute the turns fairly easy, and it's been quite stable there. So I think that's a nonevent at this point.
Got it. And what do you think the sort of growth entitlement is for Logix from here and medium term? And should this year's growth rate kind of line up with that medium-term trend expectation?
Yes. So we have enough indication to conclude that we've been able to manage through this cycle from prepandemic to now and achieve share gains across the globe, frankly. We're continuing to invest in R&D. At a company level, we allocate around 8%. But as you would expect for Software & Control, it's higher.
We have a good start point with new product introductions being adopted. This year, in particular, Logix has a new platform that's off to a great start, even though it's smaller numbers at the early stages. And a fairly healthy pipeline of innovations, as we discussed at Automation Fair in Investor Day. So we'll see additions to the Logix portfolio not just last year, but this year and the year after that. So we're bullish about what Logix can continue to do for us.
Got it. So even though we've had that restock behind us now, the growth outlook still looks pretty good for Logix and the Software & Control segment.
Yes. The comparables get harder throughout the balance of the year, just like most of the company, but prudent optimism.
Yes. And this is value across the served verticals, so certainly in our traditional served verticals like automobile manufacturing, food and beverage, pharmaceutical, but in the newer verticals like data center.
One of the real engines of our growth there is the conversion from traditional direct digital control in the building management systems to Logix, where people like the high availability, the safety, the ability to standardize on a single control platform for multiple applications. So that's been a strong growth for us. And obviously, where a lot of the investment in data centers are is in the U.S., where we have, by far, the largest share.
Great. And is there a way to sort of size, I don't know, the orders you've seen in the data center vertical or what proportion of revenue or orders data center could be exiting this fiscal year?
I'm not going to pin a specific time on it. We've talked about low single digits. But data center continues to invest. It's not unrealistic to think of data centers as 5% of our business in a not-too-distant future.
Yes. And I think that you had extraordinary growth in the first fiscal quarter in some areas like food and beverage and home and personal care that people might normally think of as being steadier industries, at least the revenue growth of the customers. Why is their spending, why did it have that bounce in the first quarter? Any sort of specific comp tailwinds that helped? Or they should be set for pretty good growth for the year?
Yes. So food and beverage is our largest served vertical. A lot of that activity is still in modernizations. And quite frankly, it's applying areas of new value that we've acquired or built in the last half dozen years in installations that may already have our control, our traditional sources of value. So cybersecurity rollouts and contracts there, being able to add supervisory control that's tightly aligned with the hardware where, again, we have the knowledge and the intimacy of those actual applications.
Home and personal care, you think about tissue and diapers and things like that. Actually, that was against a fairly difficult comp because home and personal care was growing last year, but we have a great readiness to serve. And again, there, some of the big orders we've received recently had large amounts of product from the so-called production logistics area, so a large amount of mobile robots, for instance.
Whereas the project in the past would have been PLCs and drives and motion. And that's all great. And we love it, we do. But being able to add the new value from mobile robots as those customers also share that vision of being able to integrate these multiple parts of modern manufacturing together in a single architecture.
Great. And then maybe away from the cycle, a lot of questions around the pure, let's say, software business at Rockwell that's not embedded in hardware but sold straight to customers. Maybe kind of size that business and, yes, where to begin, broad thoughts on...
Is it resilient?
Yes.
Sure. So look, our annual recurring revenue is a little bit over 10% of Rockwell's total revenue, and that's roughly split between software and high-value services, things like cybersecurity contracts and so on. Our total software business, just software, is less than 10% of our business even when you add in the part of software that's sold as a perpetual license.
We see no indication whatsoever that, that's at risk. And in fact, we see opportunities for us to be a winner by incorporating artificial intelligence in that software. And there's a few reasons for that, I'll mention some and then Matheus can add some additional detail to it. But first of all, the software that we provide is closely integrated with the hardware in a runtime system.
Second, you look at the importance of that software in mission-critical applications, often in highly regulated environments where it has to be performed, the logic has to be solved in exactly the same way over and over, which is a little bit different than the way an AI-only system would be based. It's highly deterministic. You're closing a control loop in milliseconds of time.
We continue to test our assumptions there. But when you look at our ability to continue to expand our software and even grow the value through pricing and upselling and so on, we feel very comfortable with net dollar retention rates of over 100% for large parts of that business.
Yes. I think it was quite good there. I mean, there's strong network effects beyond what's embedded, computer software. There is a tremendous amount of criticality to the execution. And these are runtime systems. These are not seats on design environments. And there is a fair amount of context that's specific to the industry that creates, I think, fairly strong moats for us.
I would only say that the cost of software is well beyond the development of the product. It has a lot more to do with managing it through the life cycle and operating the software, which is where we add a lot of value and domain knowledge.
Yes. Domain expertise still counts for a lot in these sorts of applications. And that's what we have always said, is that it's the combination of the technology with the expertise that sets Rockwell apart and creates that moat.
And in terms of the type of software product, is it fair to say manufacturing execution systems, or MES, that's the lion's share of the pure software revenue?
Well, I think that's a big piece of it. But you also have the programming tools as well that are closely aligned with the specific runtime of Logix in particular, where you're actually considering Logix to be able to interpret inputs from a wide variety of very specific devices as well as change the state of the outputs of these other specific devices. So that integration with the hardware is not just the compute surface, but it's also the very diverse universe of I/O that, that system has to be programmed to interact with as well.
That's helpful. And I think maybe switching tack towards kind of the cost side of things. And you're one of the more semiconductor-intensive companies at this event in terms of, well, selling into the industry but also purchasing chips.
And Matheus, your segment, probably the lion's share of that buy across Rockwell. How comfortable do you feel about kind of chip availability in volume and then also the cost side of it and managing that?
Yes. We haven't seen an issue. We learned a lot, obviously, during the supply chain crisis back a few years ago. Memory is getting a lot of attention now. In some cases, we've actually increased our inventory of those memory chips.
Yes. Yes, absolutely. We have a lot of learnings from the recent supply chain set of concerns. Specific to memory, our usage is primarily on DDR3, not the DDR4, DDR5. But regardless, we're interested in improving our inventory position so we can service the customer. By far, our priority is ensuring service levels there.
Great. And the cost of a lot of things, you mentioned memory chip prices going up. How is Rockwell's pricing strategy playing out? I know that's been a big kind of renewed push the last 18 months or so. What kind of pricing are you pushing through on the hardware side? And do you need to go and do another round of it just because of inflation of things like chip costs at present?
Yes. We do expect that we'll be able to continue to get high realization on price. Two broad categories of the annual price increases to cover things like general inflation and just to capture the value of our products.
When we talk about 1 point of price, 2 points of price, we're typically referring to what we're getting on the hardware part of our business. We're getting price as well in the engineered solutions. We're getting price and software. But we're not talking about that in the same way as the products. And so there's that piece.
And then there's the tariff-related pricing. We've chosen an approach to make sure that we remain EPS neutral in terms of whatever tariffs are thrown at us and our customers and to be able to manage that with a high degree of transparency with our channel, with our customers. So if a tariff was removed, we would be able to do that and still have the same conversation with our customers as we're having with investors to say, that's coming out. But whether it's us going in or coming out, it's EPS neutral for us.
And so I feel good about that. We continue to look for opportunities to increase the amount of annual price that we can get on products with a more surgical approach. We made a lot of strides, I'd say, 7 or 8 years ago with more analytics. But there's still plenty more to be done. It's a great data set, very rich data from around the world by customer, by region and so on. And we expect to continue to focus there as well.
And on the margin front, company-wide, you mentioned the kind of to and through view to get kind of to that low mid-20s, 23%, 24% operating margin and then push through it. When you roll together the sort of price initiatives, a pretty good volume growth outlook, what kind of incremental margins should we be expecting in the medium term?
Yes. I mean, this year, we talked about 40%. We still haven't changed the kind of medium range guide of you should expect 35%. That was up from 30% to 35% not too many years ago. I'd kind of like to have a little more wholesale changes in what you should expect midterm rather than dribbling out margin a little bit higher in this business segment versus another incremental is a little higher and so on.
But we continue to look at that, and I want to make sure that we have a firm line of sight and achieve the current set of goals. And in due time, we'll talk about the next set of goals. We're not done by any stretch of imagination. I'd say we're a lot closer to just getting started, really.
And then lastly, maybe there has been more interest in kind of humanoid robots on the plant floor, and there's a broad debate around the use case for that. But wondered sort of your perspective, how is Rockwell positioned for that if we really see an uptake in that approach?
Well, I'm happy that we got into the robot business directly with the acquisition of Clearpath and auto motors, AMRs. There's also a Clearpath research, which does some of the more, let's say, exotic forms of robots. I don't see a near-term pervasive use of humanoids. I think there's some good technical reasons for that.
One is you just don't need that many degrees of freedom for a lot of the tasks in manufacturing. AMRs are seeing widespread adoption. You're also seeing the technique of mounting an arm on top of an AMR as a mobile manipulator. And as complex as that equipment is, it's still far less complex than figuring out the individual finger dexterity of a humanoid.
And wheels in many manufacturing environments are actually a pretty efficient way of moving things around as opposed to a humanoid, which you have to worry about stability and arrest state, battery life. There are just some other things that -- I don't want to say never, of course. And I think humanoids will have application in other aspects of our everyday life, but I don't see it as a near-term threat in manufacturing.
Great. And with that, we'll turn to the audience response survey, please. So the first question is around sort of current ownership of Rockwell.
[Voting]
So about 3/4 are not yet. Second question is kind of general attitude to the stock today.
[Voting]
So pretty balanced. Third question is around earnings growth for Rockwell versus the sort of multi-industry average.
[Voting]
So in the middle of the pack. Next question is on uses of excess cash.
[Voting]
So buybacks are the biggest portion there. Next question is on valuation multiple, just sort of year 1 PE.
[Voting]
So around kind of 20-ish times. And last question. Kind of what's the biggest anchor on the valuation or reason not to own shares right now?
[Voting]
So organic growth, the biggest question. So we'll see. Well, with that, thanks so much, Blake, and also, Matheus, for being here. Thank you.
Yes.
Good seeing you.
Thanks a lot, Matheus.
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Rockwell Automation — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
Rockwell Automation — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzfassung: Rockwell präsentiert sich als resilienter Automationsanbieter mit wachsendem Anteil an Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR >10%), klarer Margin‑Fokussierung und einem Wachstumsalgorithmus (Nov 2023). Management sieht Upside in Data Center, E‑Commerce/Warehouse und Life Sciences; Jahresguide ist vorsichtig, Upside möglich.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Wachstumsmodell: Fokus auf organisches Marktwachstum (Medium‑Term‑Ziel 5–8% organisch) plus moderater Beitrag aus Akquisitionen; Jahresguide 2–6% (Midpoint ~4%), Management sieht Chance, oberes Ende zu erreichen.
- Margin‑Walk: Segment‑Margenkorridore eingeführt; Lifecycle Services und Software & Control bereits in Zielkorridoren, Intelligent Devices noch auf dem Weg; Ziel operativer Marge im niedrigen bis mittleren 20%‑Bereich (z. B. ~23–24%).
- Kapitalallokation: Erhöhte, aber asset‑leichte Investitionen in Anlagen, Talent und digitale Infrastruktur, um Marktanteile zu gewinnen und Margen zu erweitern.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Konkretes: ARR liegt knapp über 10% des Umsatzes; reine Software (inkl. Perpetual) bleibt unter 10% des Umsatzes. Data Center wurde als schneller Wachstumsbereich genannt und könnte mittelfristig ~5% des Geschäfts erreichen; kein konkreter Zeitpunkt genannt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- US‑CapEx: Management sieht steigende Bestellungen für neue Kapazität in Nordamerika; spricht von breit gestützten, zweistelligen Order‑Wachstumsannahmen für neue Kapazität, nennt aber keine zeitliche Exaktheit.
- Logix/PLC: Restocking‑Cycle scheint vorbei; Logix zeigte >20% YoY (NA >25%) und Management erwartet weiteres Wachstum, unterstützt durch neue Plattformeinführungen.
- Software & Risiken: ARR resilient, Net‑Dollar‑Retention >100% in großen Teilen; Management vermeidet detaillierte Near‑term‑Prognosen für reines Softwarewachstum. Ebenfalls angesprochen: Chipverfügbarkeit (DDR3) aktuell gut; Preisrealisation (1–2 Punkte auf Produkte) und Tarifanpassungen sollen EPS‑neutral gesteuert werden.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Für Aktionäre bedeutet der Auftritt ein defensiv ausgerichtetes, aber wachstumsorientiertes Profil: moderates, potentiell aufwärts gerichtetes Umsatzwachstum, klarer Fokus auf Margensteigerung und Priorisierung von ARR/Software, Data Center und Logix als wichtigste Upside‑Treiber. Hauptrisiko bleibt die Umwandlung positiver Nachfrageindikatoren in breit getragene, nachhaltige Order‑Realisationen.
Rockwell Automation — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
I think we're on. We're very excited for you all to be here. Welcome to Citi's 2026 Global Industrial Tech and Mobility Conference. I think we've got a great slate for you that over 160 companies this year. I'm Andy Kaplowitz, Citi Group's multi-industry and E&C analyst. We are very excited to have Rockwell Automation with us. Rockwell has been a mainstay of the conference. Rockwell starting now today is awesome.
Thank you, Blake. So we have Blake Moret, who's our Chairman and CEO; and Matheus Bulho, who is Rockwell's SVP of Software and Control. So I'm going to turn it over to you, Blake. I know you have some opening comments, and then we will go into Q&A.
Well, good morning, everyone. As Andy said, I'm Blake Moret, Chairman and CEO of Rockwell. I'm going to start with just a few framing comments and then looking forward to the fireside chat. So many of you have followed Rockwell for some time. I'd like to make the point that Rockwell has considerably increased our resilience in the past few years, more exposure across a wider variety of verticals, a discrete hybrid and process. Process actually makes up 40% of our total business. We've added considerable, profitable, annual recurring revenue. It's over 10% of our business, a mixture of software as well as high-value services and we've redoubled our focus on operational excellence. So that's certainly provided benefits throughout our supply chain.
We have a good blend of hardware, software and services to provide solutions. And in fact, today, Rockwell is the most used technology in American manufacturing. We introduced this growth algorithm a few years ago, 5% to 8% organic growth, a mixture of good secular trends, our ability to gain share, the impact of good growth in annual recurring revenue and then a modest amount of growth due to acquisitions. For this year, we're taking a prudent approach, but I think there's a very good chance that we are in this organic growth range this year. We take an intentional focus to the industries that we pursue, looking at growth, Rockwell's ability to win. And so as you can see, it's a good mix of traditional verticals that we've served for a long time as well as growing presence in new verticals, of course, including data center, e-commerce, warehouse automation and the like.
Enabling technologies include a software-defined automation, including good usage of artificial intelligence at all levels of the control stack. Robotics, both in terms of the equipment that we acquired from Clearpath mobile robots as well as good partnerships with the manufacturers of robot arms to be able to simplify the whole process of integrating automation systems that include the fixed automation that we're known for, but simplifying the integration with robotics, which are becoming more and more a factor in every vertical that we serve. We've also talked a lot in the last couple of years about expanding margins. We gave an overall company goal as well as corridors that we expected to achieve within our 3 business units. I'm happy with the progress that we've made, but we're far from done. And our approach spans multiple areas of productivity. It includes control of commercial expenses, direct material, indirect manufacturing efficiency, and of course, in all businesses and functions, the adoption of artificial intelligence to be able to simplify workflows as well.
And we're on offense. We talked a couple of quarters about spending, investing $2 billion over the coming years in plants, talent and digital infrastructure in the service of expanding market share and expanding margins. This really should be thought of as that kind of next tier of margin expansion activities, deploying capital in the service of greater efficiencies and greater operating margins. And just to recap our full year outlook, mid-single-digit growth on the top line, double-digit growth in earnings. And so with that, I'll take a seat, and we will take Andy's questions.
Thank you, Blake. So Blake, while you get settled, maybe just a big picture question, like thoughts overall on what's going on in terms of the global automation cycle. I think at your Investor Day, you had -- you showed a slide that showed significant investments in new capacity in North America. And we've talked about shoring gaining some momentum. We're hearing about a growing emphasis on physical AI. So you interact with a lot of manufacturers around the globe. Can you comment on the broader environment? Is the automation cycle beginning to get, I think you showed the slide with faster secular growth, 3% to 5% as part of your 5 days and maybe talk about that.
Yes. There's a lot of positive sentiment out there. It's manifesting itself currently primarily in the area of product sales. And of course, Matheus represents software and control which is a product-focused business products and software, they had a strong first quarter, actually a little bit ahead of our expectations. But where we're seeing customers still waiting for a little more certainty is in the major CapEx across a broad swath of the verticals.
Of course, enormous amounts of capital being deployed in areas like data center. Pharmaceutical continues to deploy capital with new capacity for GLP-1 and things like that. But across other verticals, a lot of the activity today is focused on products, modernizations, additional efficiency projects in existing plant versus building new.
Got it. And I think you want to be conservative, you have a guidance of 2% to 6%, as you know, in terms of organic for this year. But you've talked about -- and that's versus the 5% to 8% that you talked about for long term, but you've talked about this extra 1% to 2% share that Rockwell can deliver every year. So maybe talk about some of the initiatives you're working on sort of get to 1% to 2% share. Are you getting that better than market 1% to 2% share now?
Yes. So the 1% to 2% in that algorithm, first, just for context, 3% to 5% market growth, 1% to 2% in terms of share gains as well as expanding our served market then 1% from annual recurring revenue and then the additional 1% on average for acquisitions. The 1% to 2% share gains, given that we have the highest share in North America, and that's where a lot of the investment is. The math works in our favor. And we think we're doing a really nice job of not only touching base with the U.S.-based decision-makers, but also working with the machinery builders, the engineering firms around the world to make sure that they're comfortable using us when their end users do have a preference for Rockwell.
And so I think the share gains, particularly in Matheus' segment with controllers over the last few years, certainly a lot of volatility, but we do think that we're taking modest share. I think you all know in this space, share is a slow thing. Installed base matters a lot. We've got, obviously, a great home field advantage in North America. We're not complacent for a second, but we don't look at share and make a big deal over what's happening in a month or every quarter, but we're very focused on making sure that it's going in the right direction over time. The other piece of that 1% to 2% is expanding our served market and probably the best recent example of that is the entry into the mobile robots.
We had this notion that customers would like to simplify the whole business of designing and commissioning, and operating autonomous operations or semi-autonomous operations that span the fixed automation, the conveyors and the equipment, and the mixers and the extruders and the ovens that we've controlled for a long time, along with the mobility as people are going to more intelligent ways to move material around saving cost. That's expanded market, maybe $4 billion or $5 billion of expanded market that really none of our traditional competitors have. And so there's this opportunity to bring those together, to integrate the hardware and the software that was exciting for us and seems to have captured the imagination of a lot of our customers.
I definitely want to get to share a little bit with Matheus. So I'll get there. But I just wanted to talk about your comments on sort of these large CapEx investments a little bit more, Blake. Like -- because when I look at the one place where you report book-to-bill nowadays in life cycle services, you booked pretty solid, I thought, 1.16x. So are you actually seeing some modest improvement in customer decision-making? And then any sort of update on Q2? Like, obviously, you just reported a couple of weeks ago. But anything -- I think you said on the call that your bookings so far support your outlook, but is that still the case in the middle of February?
Yes. So sentiment is probably slightly better than we have talked about certainly a quarter ago. I think in terms of the new capacity, we're going to book more new capacity business this year than last year by a fair bit. And I think you see that manifest itself in a healthy book-to-bill number in Lifecycle services, 1.16. I want to hasten to add that when we get an order that ultimately adds to a customer's capacity in the U.S., it's spread pretty evenly across our business units.
So don't assume that that's people-intensive, relatively low-margin business. Lifecycle services certainly benefits from there, but a lot of that is Logix coming out of Matheus' shop that's going to a machinery builder is being specified by an engineering firm there. So we like the blend and whether we produce the solution at the end of the day or whether it's one of our partners, that's just fine for us. I would also say that the increase in new capacity orders manifest itself in the growth numbers in North America, which was strongest in the first quarter, and we do expect North America to be our strongest region for the year. So there's some good news there. But as we said on the call, we're looking to see orders across a broader spectrum of verticals and lot of good sentiment. We want to see customers to vote with their wallets and start placing those orders.
I think that's fair, Blake. And it's a good time to get Matheus involved then. Because some of the feedback I've got as well the Q2 guidance sequentially kind of more flattish, a little bit stagnant. But we know Logix has done well over the last few quarters. So is there anything you're seeing, Matheus, in cellphone control that would suggest to the environment is stagnant? Or is it maybe is Logix continuing to improve? Like how is the environment in your world?
Yes. No, there's nothing that suggests that it's stagnant. You saw we had a strong first quarter globally with over 20% year-over-year growth for Logix and in particular, North America with over 25% year-over-year growth. Importantly, we also saw growth in very important markets like Germany and Italy, machine builder markets that are important to the health of the business.
Sequentially, we expect Logix to continue to improve. We are expecting low single digits from Q1 to Q2 and for the full year in the mid-single-digit range in line with software and control. We have a very good start of adoption of new product introductions, including quite a few in Logix, a whole new Logix controller with the L9 that's off to a great start and a healthy pipeline of innovation that continues to come.
Matheus , just one follow-up there. Look, one of your competitors also talked about machine builders getting better. They just take their inventories down too much, like now they sort of have to come back? Like what are you seeing from those guys?
Yes, I think as we talked in the earnings call, I think the whole destocking, we're beyond that. So we don't see that as any nonevent at this point.
Yes. So Blake, we know you're extremely focused on building out ARR, right? And so that grew 7% year-over-year. We expect ARR to grow high single digits in '26. But it's below your double-digit aspirations and what you've done in the past, I think you mentioned that Plex is growing above average rates. So maybe you could talk about Plex and if you could highlight other software businesses that are growing a little bit more slowly or ultimately, when does ARR get back to double digits?
So -- and I'll make a couple of comments, but since Plex and Fiix and the software is also software and control, Matheus, I'm sure, will have some comments because he's been busy there. So the annual recurring revenue that grew 7% in the quarter is a mix of software and high-value services. Some of those services are things like cybersecurity contracts, others are tech support so that people who use our products and our software can call or chat or use self-help to make sure their systems are well supported.
The software in the first quarter actually grew higher than that average. So there were some delays in service contracts, renewals and things like that, that took that number down a little bit, but the software piece, including and importantly, Plex was actually higher than that figure. And I think in addition to some of the continued technology development for Plex. We're also seeing some, let's say, tweaks in the go-to-market that are bearing some early fruit. And Matheus has worked closely with our sales leadership to make sure that we're doing a really good job of representing that, looking for opportunities to build on customers that have a traditional base of Rockwell hardware and controllers, but also because Plex works just fine, even when there's a competitive system underneath it to build that motion as well.
And that's a really important part of the overall approach, the philosophy behind the acquisition of Plex in the first place is to recognize there's a big wide world out there. And while we like being able to have a landing spot for the data that's born on our devices, we also like having a way in the door to customers that might use competitive control systems but are either already using Plex or are interested in Plex because our competitors don't have an answer for it, and so it's another way to win.
Absolutely. Plex had a very strong first quarter. It was our highest quarter in terms of new bookings on record. We are very focused on new bookings, meaning new logos and expansion bookings in existing accounts. Plex is a platform that is exposed to an amount of data that no other company has the benefit of extracting from. So there are literally billions of transactions that flow through Plex every day, trillions across the spectrum of a year across thousands of plants and that creates a moat that is very difficult to replicate by others. It gives us a very strong advantage.
So -- and in terms of the go-to-market, we are looking for ways to amplify, including the development of partners that not only deploy the system but also help us sell the system domestic and internationally as well.
So Matheus, I'm going to tell you, we're very lucky to have you because over the last couple of weeks, obviously, there's been a little bit more questions on software, as you know, and so maybe you can talk about that, right? The potential for AI models to disrupt your business, like let's just ask it, right? Rock, as you know, has a very strong hardware product, you integrate most of your software into the hardware. We just talked about Plex it can sit by itself, right? So first, have you experienced, have you seen anybody new AI players out there? And how do you position -- I mean you talked about mode already, but how do you position because like the market is saying, oh, there might be disruption. So maybe we can just hit that head on.
Yes. So first, I would start, Andy, by saying that we're always evaluating. And we will always be evaluating what can potentially impact our business. It's part of our planning process, and it's forever journey. So there's never a dull moment. But specifically to the point you make on AI, I think there's a few things we would offer. So first, when you look at our software business, a good amount of that business is deeply integrated with physical systems with the embedded systems. And there are many reasons for that, including things like cybersecurity, how we control and how we manage what runs in these devices. So a good example of that is software that's used to commission a Logix system or a software that's used to commission operator interfaces.
So for those we have -- because of the relationship with these systems and the proprietary nature of these systems, we have fairly strong grounds there. Then if you think about, another point I would make is a lot of the software that we have, it's actually running production. It's mission-critical software, deterministic transactions where you're looking for consistency. You're not looking for probabilistic outcomes and the majority of what the software is doing. So software that's used to in life sciences. Software that's used in food and beverage, in regulated industries where compliance matters. So a lot of that does require the execution because it's mission-critical, and it cannot live in a probabilistic environment.
And then the third piece that I would offer is if you think about it, if your software is just data and a presentation or our user interface layer, you're very likely to be disrupted. What happens is a lot of our software has a very rich context that's not available in the public domain for all of these models to be trained on. So you see things like, for example, Anthropic focusing on coding or you see OpenAI focusing on creativity, you see Google focusing on large context and multi-motor interactions, it's very unlikely that we'll see that being prioritized, given the complexity of the market and frankly, the size of that market there. But we'll continue to work through all of these and adjust as needed.
Yes. If I can add, as Matheus started, we're always looking to challenge our hypothesis. What are the things that we knew to be true a few years ago and has anything changed to change our position on that in the day. There is a point where looking at applications in the cloud was something that we looked at and we'll continue to test this, but something that gives me encouragement is the amount of domain expertise that we have internally, people familiar, of course, with Rockwell's mission to look for efficiency from whatever means, including AI, but who also have history applying our technology at end customers.
Our Chief Information Officer, deployed dozens of MES systems at large customers around the world. He's also currently in charge of looking at expanding our AI effort for internal productivity. And so we talk closely with him just makes sense. Are there still things, as Matheus described, about a unique value from these applications that will incorporate AI within it but still have a unique value, and it's a very affirmative answer in that respect.
The only maybe a point I would also add is, if you think about automation is about to benefit from AI. And the demand for automation is bound to increase and largely because AI simplifies what it takes to consume automation technology and frankly, allows us to automate things that were not previously practical, to be automated. So we expect the demand for automation to continue to expand as more and more AI is used in production system.
That's helpful, Matheus. So we're going to open it up to the audience in a second. Let me ask one more question, but just preparing in case anybody wants to ask a question. So let me just ask on pricing, Blake. I think maybe pricing is a little misunderstood for you guys because you only report half the product-based business in terms of pricing. So when you say 1% really 2% on products. But with all that being said, I think you've come a long way in your pricing evolution over the last few years. So maybe you can talk about that. And do you -- my understanding is in the past, maybe you offered some discounts to your large good customers? Are you kind of closing those loopholes? Like how do you think about pricing sort of moving forward?
Sure. So we had a system that yielded good price for many, many years. But we found particularly during the supply chain shortages back 2021, '22, that for significant step-change disruptions, we needed to make some changes in our processes. In the past, when we had 10 years ago when we had price changes, we'd have to wait for the contracts, the annual contracts with our customers to expire. And so you weren't able to get price into the market as fast as you needed to in the face of those major changes.
We've changed that process so that you get more or less immediate price realization when you introduce those prices, working closely, of course, with our channel partners. And then also in the special case, which is becoming maybe a little bit more of the general case with respect to tariffs, again, processes that allow us to have a very transparent approach to increasing pricing. As you said, we report the price that's attributable to our products, which is still a little bit more than half of our total business, we're getting price in our software renewals and in our engineered to order or configured order offerings from life cycle services or from that portion of intelligent devices, but that's just a natural part of the quotation process. So there's price that's coming out there, but you're correct in that the pricing that we talk about, if you just look at the percentage of our products is a little bit higher than we say. I think there's a discipline of that.
There's also other aspects of pricing. So we've talked a lot over the last year or so about the long tail of our SKUs and the opportunity for some surgical pricing there items that are, let's say, more receptive to that. And so that's additional price as part of our comprehensive productivity programs. I think the overall organization recognizes that for a company that's differentiated like us, that's growing, that pricing is a vibrant part of the overall effort to continue to grow top line, of course, but also to be able to appropriately expand our margins.
That's helpful. Any questions from the audience? Anyone?
Thanks for making the time. I just had a quick one. So I think back at the end of 2024, you announced a partnership with NVIDIA on your Emulate3D to integrate Omniverse for a digital twin. We saw this year at CES, Siemens took the stage they announced what seemed like a much deeper collaboration to develop what they call the AI software for industrial automation. I just wanted to understand like how does your offering differ to their accelerator offering? Why is it that the collaboration seems to be much deeper with Siemens did NVIDIA pick them over you? Or yes, I just wanted to understand the positioning there.
No, we continue to work well with NVIDIA. I think our partners ecosystem, whether it's NVIDIA or Microsoft or the really hundreds of other technology partners is second to none. Siemens focus is a little bit more on the product design. So when you look at PLM, EDA applications, compute-intensive and I think that's why NVIDIA is particularly interested there because these are large requirements for compute in the product design. Obviously, we compete with Siemens and others in the factory design, but our Emulate3D product, which, as you said, uses an API to be able to have photorealistic images rendered in Omniverse.
We're doing that with a lot of customers. It's a growing motion directly versus the competitors like Siemens and winning in an impressive number of cases. Maybe talk a little bit more about Emulate3D and how it fits into that overall vision of a software-defined architecture.
Yes. Emulate3D is a very important component of a software-defined system because it's where you train the system and a lot of the future workflows on how systems are commissioned in the future rely on the digital twin model and the validations through that. Our partnerships with Emulate3D, are strong with NVIDIA, but they go well beyond NVIDIA. We partner with people like ANSYS, for example, for very specific capabilities that are needed in fluid dynamics and so on. Our relationship with NVIDIA is also beyond Omniverse.
As you probably heard us in our Investor Day, we have been collaborating strongly on the deployment of small language models as part of runtime systems for optimization of some production problems. And because our stack is in the cloud, and we have access to compute and services, we've been able to kind of go to market fairly quickly with capabilities like that.
Any other questions?
Sorry, could I just follow up on that? Over in Europe, like there's been a bit of a cuff in the market because one of the elevator company, Schindler said that they had made their own digital twin of an elevator because Dassault Systemes, their previous digital twin partner for 8 years was unable to do so. This seems a bit like hyperbole, like I don't know about you, elevator doesn't seem like that complicated of a product. I'm sure Dassault could probably do a digital win.
I just wanted to understand like, is this at all something that you've heard or that you think -- are customers pushing back against you saying like we're paying for per seat pricing. Do you think that that's necessarily fair, like you guys should see your costs come down of developing software because you can now use AI to do so? How do those conversations work? What does the pricing look like? Is it still going to be a per seat model in the future if it is? And yes, I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.
So I'm not sure I caught all of that. But if the question is about adoption of digital twins.
Yes, let me just clarify it. Basically, Dassault got dropped as a digital twin partner and Schindler, the Lyft company said they're making their own. They literally said they're [ vibe ] coding their own digital twin. Could a customer come to you and say that? Probably not because you guys do complicate work for them. But I imagine the pricing conversation has a little bit more flex these days because you should be seeing software development costs come down if you use AI in a reasonable way. How does that look? Is it still going to be a per-seat pricing model in the future?
Yes. So I'll make a couple of comments, and hopefully, this gets at the heart of it. I mean we are seeing significant interest across almost every vertical that we serve in creating digital twins of their operations. In a lot of cases, that was used to accelerate and shorten the commissioning process. It really got a booster and COVID when you couldn't have people physically from the machine builder and the customer and the technology supplier all physically in the same place, but it's moving beyond just the commissioning event so that customers can get benefit by continuing to debottleneck their processes to test or gamify different configurations whether it's elevators or its bottling facilities to be able to do that.
And we've taken an open approach to this. When we made the acquisition that really got us big time into this area, first with Emulate3D as the technology and then Calypso followed by Knowledge lens with people who were data scientists, who can have those conversations with customers, we recognized it wasn't always going to be applied into shops that had just Rockwell hardware. So we've got those abilities to create digital twins when there's [indiscernible] robots and Siemens controllers and so on Schneider in that because we recognize it is a multi-vendor world. But to be able to come in and to be able to compete head-to-head with those solutions providers as well as the consultants, because it still requires the -- not only the technology tools, but the domain expertise. We were told over and over by customers that the technologies we talk about, software-defined automation, including AI, integrated robotics they still have to be directed by somebody who knows what you're actually trying to produce and how manufacturing works, and that's Rockwell's differentiator.
So yes, with competition that software pricing will come down, the key piece, the part that's going to save the money and make -- give you the ROI is having an adequate tool but somebody who knows what they're doing with it and can work well not only with the corporate engineering resource, but also where it gets deployed in the field. And I think that's our special place.
Any other questions? All right. Well, we're quickly running out of time, Blake. So let me just ask you a couple more questions about the market. Like, maybe just let's go to growth by region because what's interesting is you've talked about North America being strong, but you've seen EMEA and Asia Pacific turn positive over the last few quarters. So does that continue? And then you usually are strong in Latin America, but it's been a little weak lately. So I mean, is that mining related and come back or something that? Any comments?
So Asia after North America in terms of growth, good growth. India, Southeast Asia, Taiwan, obviously, with all the chip activity, we have some very strong customers there. Latin America, a little weaker, primarily due to Mexico, Brazil, comparatively stronger. They also had a tough comp and that a year ago first quarter, they were the one region that had growth.
Got it. And then Matheus, like one of the keys, I think, for margin for Rockwell is your segment. It is the highest margin segment, right? So you got this question on pricing, but it seems like you've been focused on execution. Margins have come back up again here. Logix is doing well. So what gets you to sort of that 34% margin versus the concerns out there that all of a sudden, you're going to lose pricing and margin? Like how do you think about that?
Yes. As you know, it's a combination of volume as well as productivity remains a priority for our segment and for our company. So on the volume piece, this segment has strong incrementals, and we see a strong pipeline of innovation that will continue to help us propel that on the productivity side, all the things that Blake talked about, they are as applicable to the company as they are to the very specific segment of software control. So things like what we're doing to improve our cost to produce use Rockwell on Rockwell to continue to improve what it takes to make it, logistics, indirect, direct material -- all of the work we're engaged in right now with insourcing, those are real opportunities for software and control that we'll continue to expand on and help us drive improvement.
We talked about in Singapore, which is primarily a software and controlled plant, 30% improvement in labor efficiency there. We're applying a lot of the same things, the rock on rock concept in Twinsburg, well ahead of when we have the new plant up and running that we announced in Southeastern Wisconsin.
Would you guys say you're like kind of halfway through third inning, seventh inning, like in terms of if we're improving productivity at something like software?
This is a game that never ends. And I'd say we're still early innings. We came out to a good start to hundreds of millions of dollars over the last couple of years in productivity. We're driving it into a repeatable process as part of our Rockwell operating model, but it never ends and to be able to offset inflation plus some is an expectation every year.
And I just want to ask you specifically about discrete markets real quickly in the sense that auto is doing fine for you now, I think, like mid-single-digit growth overall. Can you continue to broaden out? You bought Cubic for data centers, you continue to broaden out that business to drive more discrete growth? Because people think of you use auto, but they are so much more than that.
Yes. Well, also in discrete e-commerce, warehouse automation, which includes a little bit of data center, a 60%, 70% growth. So that's helping discrete as well, specifically within data centers, the main areas of our business are the power distribution, largely due to the Cubic acquisition made a couple of years ago and the growing trend of people moving to industrial logic equipment like logic from their traditional distributed digital control, the DDC control that was used for a long time there, and we're seeing wider adoption by the month in using Logix there. So those are probably the primary applications and use of DDC moving to Logic in the building management systems primarily.
Yes. Hybrid market is pretty solid. Food and beverage, it's more your sort of total solutions that's sort of driven business, right?
Yes. Again, modernizations going into existing facilities that may or may not already have Rockwell control systems, adding software, adding fixed, predictive maintenance systems, adding cybersecurity contracts those are large projects, adding AMRs. We're seeing some projects. There's a recent one in Home and Personal Care, where over $20 million total project with 2/3 of that coming initially from the mobile robots. So it's having -- it's making an impact.
Just last quick question. I have asked you this for the last 5 years, so it's a good time,sir. So what are the top 2 or 3 innovations and structural changes affecting your company over the next 5 years? Are there any emerging industry trends that are perhaps being overlooked in the current disclose?
So I'll give you 2 that we've talked about a little more recently and then one that hasn't changed. So software-defined automation and Matheus is really spearheading that integrated robotics simplifying the overall automation project. And then something that I talked about, not 5 years ago, but almost 10 years ago, when I came into this role about the combination of understanding a customer's problems.
The domain expertise still matters, combining the technology and its traditional sources of technology, along with new ways to win and simplification of a customer's automation project, the design, the commissioning, the operation. And I really think that simplification is going to sort out the winners and the losers over the next 10 years. I talked about that over 9 years ago, and I think it's still as relevant today as it was then.
Thanks, Blake and Matheus.
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Rockwell Automation — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
Rockwell Automation — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Rockwell präsentiert sich als widerstandsfähig und diversifiziertes Automationsunternehmen: 40% Process, >10% Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR). Fokus auf software-defined automation, KI-Integration und integrierte Robotik. Management bestätigt mittelfristige Wachstums-„Algorithmus“ (5–8% organisch) und betont operative Effizienz.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Investitionen: Geplante Investition von rund $2 Mrd. in Werke, Personal und digitale Infrastruktur zur Marktanteils- und Margenausweitung.
- Software & Produkte: Plex meldet Rekord‑Bookings; neue Logix L9‑Controller stark gestartet; Emulate3D (Digital Twin) wird mit NVIDIA und weiteren Partnern ausgerollt.
- Markterweiterung: Eintritt in mobile Robots erweitert das adressierbare Marktvolumen (geschätzt $4–5 Mrd.) und unterstützt die 1–2% jährlichen Share‑Gains.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Guidance‑Update: Management bestätigt Jahresausblick: mittlere einstellige Organikwachstumsrate und zweistelliger Gewinnanstieg; Buchungs‑Momentum sichtbar (Lifecycle Services Book‑to‑Bill 1,16) und mehr neue Kapazitäts‑Aufträge als im Vorjahr erwartet.
- Kurzfristig: Logix: starkes Q1 (>20% YoY) und erwartet niedrige einstellige Verbesserung Q1→Q2; ARR soll 2026 in den hohen einstelligen Bereich wachsen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- AI‑Risiko: Management sieht AI eher als Enabler; viele Software‑Bausteine sind eingebettet, deterministisch und durch Branchenkontext/Compliance geschützt — daher geringeres Disruptionsrisiko.
- Pricing: Neue Prozesse ermöglichen schnellere Preisdurchsetzung; zusätzliches Potenzial in „Long‑tail“ SKUs und konfigurierten Angeboten.
- Digital Twin & Wettbewerb: Offener, Multi‑Vendor‑Ansatz (Emulate3D + Partner) und Betonung von Domänenwissen als Differenzierer gegenüber Siemens/Dassault‑Artigen Konkurrenten.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Rockwell bestätigt strategischen Kurs: mehr Software/Services, gezielte Investitionen und operative Produktivitätsprogramme. Kurzfristig konservative Guidance, mittelfristig Wachstumspotenzial durch ARR, Robotik‑Markterweiterung und Margenhebel. Wichtige KPIs zum Beobachten: ARR‑Beschleunigung, Bookings‑Momentum und Margenrealisierung.
Rockwell Automation — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for holding, and welcome to Rockwell Automation's quarterly conference call. I need to remind everyone that today's conference call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions].
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Aijana Zellner, Head of Investor Relations and Market Strategy. Ms. Aijana, please go ahead.
Thank you, Julianne. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's First Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Release Conference Call. With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Christian Rothe, our CFO. .
Our results were released earlier this morning, and the press recent charts are available on our website. These materials as well as our remarks today will reference non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures are included in both the press recent charts. A replay of today's webcast and a transcript of our prepared remarks will be available on our website at the conclusion of today's call. Before we begin, please note that our comments today include forward-looking statements regarding the expected future results of our company. Our actual results may differ materially due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties described in our earnings release and SEC filings.
So with that, I'll hand it over to Blake.
Thanks, Aijana, and good morning, everyone. Before we get into the specific results, I'll start with a few opening comments. We entered fiscal 2026 with a focus on delivering solid top line performance while continuing to increase productivity and expand margins. This quarter reflects additional progress on these fundamental objectives with sales, margin and earnings all exceeding our expectations. .
Demand across our core offerings and verticals remained healthy in the first quarter, and our teams executed well. We had double-digit sales growth and sustained momentum in our key product and software businesses. At the same time, we continue to advance structural productivity actions. These efforts span projects and commercial spend, direct material and supply chain efficiency with broad adoption of AI providing additional opportunities, we are well positioned to expand margins as the year progresses.
The macro environment remains fluid, with heightened geopolitical uncertainty around trade, regional conflict and supply chain risk. While these factors add complexity, they reinforce the importance of the disciplined execution focused mindset our teams bring every day. And the long-term trends driving automation and digital transformation remains strong. Rockwell is well positioned to lead as customers accelerate their factory of the future initiatives and move towards more autonomous operations. The strong growth of orders related specifically to projects adding new U.S. production capacity gives us confidence that the combination of our traditional sources of value with digital services, edge computing and cloud-native software is differentiated. We are the most used technology in American manufacturing.
Let's now turn to our first quarter results on Slide 3. Our Q1 sales came in slightly better than expected, with double-digit year-over-year growth in both reported and organic sales. While large CapEx investments are still on hold for many customers Demand for our products portfolio remains strong, particularly in logic and motion. Customers continue to modernize their operations even as they look from a stable market signals. Annual recurring revenue grew 7% in the quarter and was in line with our expectations with strong performance in our recurring software across automotive, life sciences and energy verticals. Plex delivered its strongest quarter yet with several significant customer wins.
One notable win was with RH Shepherd, a U.S.-based Tier 1 commercial vehicle supplier who will use our cloud-native Plex platform to drive greater operational control, continuous process improvement and scalable future expansion. Another standout win in our recurring services was with Hindalco Industries, a global leader in aluminum and copper production, and [indiscernible] has chosen to partner with Rockwell to implement OT cybersecurity across 6 plants in India.
Moving to our business segment performance for the quarter. Intelligent Devices delivered another solid quarter with organic sales up 16% year-over-year and in line with our expectations. Growth was broad-based with especially strong performance in drives and Motion. Within Motion, we secured several strategic wins across food and beverage, CPG and entertainment. A standout Q1 win here was with PFM Group, a leading Italian packaging OEM and supporting a large food and beverage customers CapEx expansion. The customer selected our independent car technology to deliver high-speed flexible production at scale across multiple key facilities. Another example of our differentiated production logistics offering is our win with ATS.
This customer is deploying our auto AMRs to deliver an autonomous material movement solution for an end user in the U.S. Margins also continued to improve year-over-year in the Intelligent Devices segment. In Software & Control, organic sales grew 17% versus prior year, ahead of our expectations. Logix continued its strong momentum with North American sales up over 25% year-over-year. Our new L9 controller is off to a great start with early adopters seeing clear benefits from higher performance, simplified architecture and faster data throughput. Beyond hardware, we are seeing growing adoption of our next-generation software offerings customers continue to expand their use of emulate 3D to create digital twins and we are seeing building momentum with the copilot functionality of our FactoryTalk design studio. This quarter, Thermo Fisher selected Rockwell to deliver an AI-enabled troubleshooting agent to accelerate issue resolution and reduce downtime, a great proof point of how our AI strategy is delivering real customer value. You heard directly at Investor Day in November about how Rockwell is broadly contributing to this important customer's success.
Life Cycle Services organic sales declined 6% versus prior year, largely in line with expectations. Book-to-bill in this segment was 1.16. As in prior quarters, customers continued to delay and narrow the scope of larger projects until there is more clarity on potential trade policy impacts. Our plans to end the [indiscernible] joint venture are on track for an April 1 close with the return of the profitable process automation business to full Rockwell control. We continue to work well with SLB through this transition, and we look forward to updating you once the transaction is complete. Total company segment margin was 20.7% and and adjusted EPS was $2.75.
These both exceeded our expectations and were driven by higher volume, favorable mix and strong productivity. Tariffs did not have a meaningful impact on our total company earnings in Q1. Christian will talk more about TRPs and the fiscal '26 impact in a few moments. Turning to Slide 4 for key highlights of our Q1 industry performance. Our discrete sales were up low double digits year-over-year, led by continued strength in e-commerce and warehouse automation. Within discrete, automotive sales grew mid-single digits, consistent with our outlook. Although the CapEx environment remains subdued, brand owners and Tier 1s are continuing to advance MES digital twin and AI-enabled modernization across their global manufacturing footprints.
E-commerce and warehouse automation sales grew over 60% in the quarter. led by strong year-over-year growth in North America. Customer investment continues to be driven by labor shortages, network modernization needs and increasing focus on sustainability and cybersecurity. Business related to data centers, again contributed strong double-digit growth in the quarter. AI-driven power constraints are accelerating hyperscaler and colo adoption of gas-powered micro grids, driving increased demand for our industrial grade controls in power and advanced cooling.
This is deepening our engagement with leading power and process OEMs and driving continued momentum in this end market. Moving to hybrid. Sales in this industry segment were up high single digits, led by double-digit growth in food and beverage and home and personal care. Consistent with what we saw last quarter, customers in food and beverage and the broader CPG sector continue to focus on operational efficiency. While the majority of our business here is driven by brownfield modernizations and productivity, we did see some greenfield projects across the U.S., Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia and India. One example of orders resulting from new capacity being built in the U.S. is our Q1 win with [ Cama ], an Italian packaging OEM at selected Rockwell's advanced motion platform to run complex high-speed operations with emerging sustainable materials.
This gives Comma a clear advantage in throughput reliability and flexible changeovers as the industry accelerated its shift to a sustainable and highly robotized packaging. Sales in Life Sciences declined low single digits year-over-year driven by several project delays in North America. Despite these temporary pushouts, our pipeline continues to expand across strategic areas, including GLP-1, radio pharma and med devices. We continue to expect growth in Life Sciences for the full year. Turning to Process Industries. Sales in this segment were up 10% versus prior year, with strong growth in chemicals, water and energy. Our chemicals business is in the specialty chemicals sector, which remains relatively resilient. We also continue to gain share at key customers with our plant PAX control platform.
This quarter, Corteva Agriscience completed the modernization of its iPark infrastructure, using our process control and networking capabilities to improve operator visibility and reduce downtime across critical chemical utilities. Within energy, we saw good activity in oil and gas, power and renewables supported by an important greenfield win with FS Bioenergia, a leading Brazilian corn ethanol producer with strategic emphasis on carbon capture and decarbonization.
The customer will be deploying our full suite of automation offerings to build their next facility in Brazil and for their carbon capture and storage project. Let's move to Slide 5 and our Q1 organic regional sales. As expected, North America remains our strongest region. At our Automation Fair in November, we announced plans for our new manufacturing facility in Southeastern Wisconsin, and I'm pleased to share that this factory of the future will be located in New Berlin. Additionally, as we have completed the purchase of our Mequon, Wisconsin facility, which we previously leased. These 2 projects are aligned with our announced investments in our plants, talent and digital infrastructure and underscore our commitment to and confidence in the U.S. market. Let's move to Slide 6 to review our fiscal 2026 outlook.
We are maintaining our organic sales growth outlook of 2% to 6%, with the midpoint assuming a gradual sequential improvement through the year. We will need to see some additional evidence of accelerating capital spend across additional verticals to move higher in our full year outlook. Additional recurring revenue remains on track for high single-digit growth. We continue to expect full year segment margin expansion of over 100 basis points. Given some discrete tax benefits in Q1, we're increasing the midpoint of our adjusted EPS to $11.80. Christian will cover this in more detail in a few moments. Free cash flow conversion is still expected to be approximately 100%.
And I'll now turn it over to Christian for more detail on our Q1 results and our fiscal 2016 outlook. Christian?
Thank you, Blake, and good morning, everyone. Turning to our financial results. Let's go to Slide 7, first quarter key financial information. First quarter reported sales were up 12% versus prior year, about 2 points of growth came from currency. Three points of organic growth came from price with about half coming from underlying price realization and half from tariff-based pricing. Some of the details I'll reference are not shown on this slide and can be found on Page 9 of our press release. .
Gross margins expanded year-over-year, driven by positive price cost and productivity and favorable mix. SG&A spend was flat year-over-year in the first quarter, reflecting strong cost discipline and productivity across our global teams. Engineering and development spend, a new metric we started sharing last quarter was up 10% year-over-year and in line with our organic sales growth, keeping our innovation spend at about 8% of sales.
Our gross margin expansion and SG&A leverage drove solid flow-through, resulting in 360 basis points of segment margin expansion. As Blake mentioned earlier, the impact of tariffs on our first quarter earnings was neutral, but it was a drag of about 30 basis points on segment margins year-over-year. While this quarter represents our easiest comparable of the year, I'm pleased with the strong performance up and down the P&L and across our segments. Q1 adjusted EPS of $2.75 was above our expectations.
As Blake mentioned, we also got some help from our tax rate in the quarter. The adjusted effective tax rate for the first quarter was about 17% and slightly lower than last year. The first quarter tax rate was lower than the 20% we expected due to discrete tax items, primarily the tax benefit of stock option exercises. This contributed to about $0.09 of our adjusted EPS compared to our Q1 guide. With the tax rate coming in lower than expected in Q1, we now anticipate an ETR of about 19.5% for the full year, better than our prior guide of 20%. Free cash flow in Q1 of $170 million was generally in line with our expectations. It was $123 million lower than the prior year, primarily due to changes in working capital and incentive comp payments in Q1 of fiscal 2026. We had 0 incentive comp payments last year. Slide 8 provides the sales and margin performance overview of our 3 operating segments. Intelligent Devices margin of 17.3% increased by 240 basis points year-over-year due to higher sales and price cost and productivity with a slight offset from FX and compensation, resulting in incrementals in the low 30s. Software and control margin of 31.2% was up 610 basis points versus prior year and higher than our expectations, driven by strong sales volume, particularly in Logix, partially offset by compensation. This segment saw year-over-year incrementals in the low 60s. Life cycle services margin of 14.1% and was up 160 basis points year-over-year, better than our expectations as the team executed well against their projects and continue to drive productivity. This was despite a revenue decline year-over-year.
Overall, for Rockwell, the incremental margin on the year-over-year sales growth was about 50% in Q1, a solid start to the year. A couple of other data points regarding Q1. First, our balance sheet as of December 31 does reflect some Sensia dissolution items. We have now classified certain Sensia assets and liabilities as held for sale. These are assets and liabilities that will go to SLB in the final closing. There's also a tax gain on the GAAP P&L related to the Sensia dissolution, stemming from a recapture of tax losses that will be usable to Rockwell post dissolution. Like all nonoperating adjustments related to the dissolution of Sensia, these are removed from our adjusted ES for reporting purposes.
Second, Blake mentioned that we purchased our facility in Mequon, Wisconsin. That transaction closed in the second quarter at a value of about $60 million. Because it is recorded on our December balance sheet as a finance lease, the transaction will be accounted for in finance and cash flows and is excluded from our operating CapEx. Let's move to the next slide, 9, for the adjusted EPS walk from Q1 fiscal 2025 to Q1 fiscal 2026. This is a more streamlined waterfall than what we have shown in the past as we transition our cost reduction and margin expansion actions into our ongoing productivity now embedded within core. Year-over-year, core performance had a $1 impact on Q1. Volume drove about half of that impact with intelligent devices and software and control sales up mid- to high teens year-over-year.
Productivity was the next largest driver. Price and mix were also solid contributors, but we did see some inflationary costs partially offset these benefits. Our strong Q1 performance resulted in $0.10 of year-over-year increase in compensation spend. All other items had a neutral impact on adjusted EPS. Moving on to the next slide, 10, to discuss our guidance for the full year. Blake mentioned ongoing uncertainties in the broader environment. Between that and being only 1 quarter into the year, we aren't seeing enough to change our sales and margin guide right now. We are updating our adjusted EPS guidance by raising the lower end of the range to $11.40, which increases the midpoint by $0.10 to $11.80. This reflects discrete tax benefits that came in better than expected in Q1 and and we are rolling that outperformance into our full year adjusted EPS. As a reminder, our guidance does not include the impact from the anticipated Sensia dissolution, which we expect to close on April 1. We still expect no significant impact on adjusted EPS, an annualized reduction in sales of approximately $250 million and an annualized improvement of approximately 50 basis points for total company segment margin. We will provide an update once the transaction closes. We continue to expect 2 points of total price for fiscal 2026 with 1 point coming from underlying price and 1 point from tariff-based price. We continue to expect our full year 2026 incremental margins to be about 40%, inclusive of tariff-based pricing. And for your models, CapEx for 2026 remains targeted at about 3% of sales. Now let me share some additional color on our outlook for the second quarter. In Q2, we expect overall company sales to be slightly up sequentially. From a total segment operating margin perspective, we are also looking for modest sequential improvement each quarter this year. Given the solid start to the year, that sequential margin expansion is going to be in the tens of basis points, not the hundreds of basis points. On a year-over-year basis, this implies mid-single-digit sales growth in the second quarter with margin expansion of less than 100 basis points.
At the total company level, we expect second quarter adjusted EPS to grow low single digits sequentially. That outlook includes about $0.10 of sequential headwind from the tax rate as we move from about 17% in Q1 to approximately 20% in Q2. Our outlook by segment included in our full year guide for fiscal 2026 remains unchanged. A few additional comments on the fiscal 2026 guidance for your models. Corporate and other expense is expected to be about $105 million. Net interest expense for fiscal 2026 and is expected to be about $115 million. We're assuming average diluted shares outstanding of about 112.7 million shares, and we are targeting approximately $500 million of shares repurchased during the year. With that, I'll turn it back to Blake for some closing remarks before we start Q&A. Blake?
Thanks, Christian. As we've said, trade volatility and geopolitical tensions continue to suppress some capital spending. I've been very proud of Team Rockwell's resilience and agility as we navigate this environment, including the efforts of our employees and partners around the world. It's a little work on the part of thousands of people but the success of our efforts was on full display at our automation fair in November. I've been to a lot of these, but the breadth of our portfolio and the enthusiasm of our people has never been more vibrant. We're building on this strength to grow share and expand margins near term and for years to come. Aijana will now begin the Q&A session. .
Thanks, Blake. [Operator Instructions]
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research.
2. Question Answer
Blake, I just wanted to kind of reconcile your kind of more cautious comments with perhaps what we're seeing across the S&P is CapEx budgets being inched a little higher, not lower, but you're a little closer to the customer. So like just maybe a little bit more detail. Are -- do you think people will underspend their budgets? Or are they just pushing back to the back half of the year? I mean kind of -- just a little -- take more color there would be helpful.
Sure, Scott. I think the overarching term would be prudent here. We are seeing some optimism in different areas, including the ones that contributed to a really good performance in Q1 as well as good discussions and discussion about plans, including CapEx plans in other verticals that are important to us. But we haven't seen that turn into the broad-based release of orders that we need to see before we start centering more on the higher end of that guide. So there's optimism out there. Certainly, there's some short-term indicators. We're very aware of PMI, industrial production, which we're most highly correlated to. We look at our own behavior in terms of our own investment in automation. But we just need to see a little bit more given that it's the first quarter of the year.
Understood. And how do you -- what about your distributors? I mean, I assume you're talking about the actual customer that's spending the money, not the distributor, but are distributors still a little bit cautious and not restocking yet?
So stock levels are really back to normal. So the dialogue that was front and center in 2024 and into the beginning of 2025. we're done. The inventory levels around the world are back to normal levels at distribution and at the machine builders Distributors are optimistic. When we've gone out and we've talked to them, obviously, we spent lots of time with them at Automation Fair in person. But even in the couple of months since then, there is optimism, but we're all taking a proven approach.
Our next question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays.
Maybe I just wondered if you could flesh out a little bit how you see the margin drivers playing out across the segments for that second quarter commentary. As you said, you're trying to sort of keep a lid on people's expectations of the sequential margin development. Maybe help us understand kind of mix impacts and anything you see with price cost from here with memory chips?
Sure. Absolutely. The -- I'll deal with the memory chip item glass. But when we're talking about the progression from Q1 to Q2 for the segments, we are, again, looking for a slight sequential improvement on the sales side. That's across all the segments. From the margin expansion side, we're looking for some modest margin expansion both for intelligent devices and software and control. When we're talking about the life cycle services business, life cycle had a better Q1 than what we were expecting.
As you know, this is a lumpy business, project execution and productivity is really important. And so keeping that at that 14% or just around 14%. [indiscernible] we're able to hold at that level, I feel pretty good about that. I think we'd all feel pretty good about that. Importantly, we do have merit that comes into play in the second quarter, so that is going to be a factor that -- when you think about those sequentials, we have to take into account. Importantly, when we talk about that year-over-year, and I mean this in my prepared comments, we are talking about mid-single-digit growth year-over-year.
On the top line, we're talking about 100 basis points or a little less than 100 basis points in segment margin expansion year-over-year for the total company. And that's a flow-through in the neighborhood of the the 35% that we've always talked about and we signed up for as an organization, keeping in mind, we just did a 50% in Q1. So all in, we're talking about a Q2 number that's in the neighborhood of about $2.85 on Again, you'll have your own modeling around that, but that's what we're targeting. When you bring up the chips factory, yes, there are some inflationary costs that come into play.
Ships are one of those factors. The organization, the supply chain team has done a really good job in positioning around that. That has impacted our inventory levels a little bit. There's some cost inflation there. We're talking single-digit millions of dollars though, in both regards. So it's not a huge impact for us. Again, the team is navigating it well. I feel really strongly that they've been right on top of these issues.
That's helpful. And maybe just clarify for us on logic kind of where you see a standing on the volume cycle perspective. How much of a decent recovery you think is left on the Logix front. And maybe tied to that, you had exceptional growth in process -- sorry, in hybrid industries in first quarter. Do you see some of that persisting through the balance of the year?
Sure. So in terms of Logix, Logix continues to be a great part of our product line. It is benefiting from good demand for existing offerings, but we also have a really robust new product introduction that's having an impact as well. both in the I-O, especially in Process IO as well as the new L9 processor, where we're seeing great adoption around the world for that.
And even some of the elements of the software-defined automation, things like Emulate3D, FactoryTalk design studio that we highlighted with Thermo Fisher. Those have been great for us in traditional verticals as well as some that you haven't thought about Rockwell as closely in association with like data centers, as more customers, hyperscalers and colo owners are looking at industrial logic i.e., Ligix to replace their traditional direct digital control systems, their DDC control systems. So we're seeing Logix, we saw really good growth in the first quarter, and we expect that to continue to be a nice spot for us top line as well as, of course, the financial benefits of that. In terms of volume, so we expect for the full year to be at or slightly above the units that we saw pre-pandemic.
Obviously, with the compounded price increases that we've seen over the last half dozen years, the volume level in dollars is considerably higher, but we do expect units to get back to for the full year, the units that we saw pre-pandemic. The other question that you had was regarding hybrid. And of course, food and beverage, double-digit growth in the first quarter, it's our biggest vertical. And so good things happen when you see double-digit growth. And food and beverage.
It's a mix of traditional offerings, the logic, the input devices, the drives, the motion, a lot of that is packaging, and we saw good development at the European packaging and material handling OEMs, including those in Germany and Italy. Life Sciences was down a little bit in the quarter, but we expect that to improve through the course of the year. We're having great success at the biggest life science customers that you know, and it's across the line. It's the hardware, it's the software, it's the high-value services. So I think we'll see continued benefit for food and beverage, life sciences, Home and Personal Care as well. We saw some really nice orders in the first quarter in Home and Personal Care. And importantly, across all of those, we're seeing a lot of interest in those auto autonomous mobile robots. So that whole idea of production and logistics that we've talked about is really capturing the imagination of customers as we integrate those technologies, AMRs, independent car technology along with the fixed automation that Rockwell has been known for, for a long time.
Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz from Citigroup.
So obviously, we know it's early in the year, as you said, but you did say that Q1 incrementals were up over 50%. And I think it was better than you expected. You reiterated the greater than 40%. But if logic does stay strong, as Blake kind of mentioned it was pretty strong could incrementals creep up for the year? And maybe you can update us on some of your programs like [indiscernible] and Rock and how you're dealing with dynamic pricing.?
Sure. So when -- obviously, Logix does have some really good flow-through profitability. If that changes in the mix from where we were -- where we started the year and planned for in the guide, of course, that can change the flow-through there's no doubt. But we have a number of other product categories that also have really strong flow-through as well.
Importantly, we don't -- we're not just going to rely on this kind of goes to the second part of your question. We're not just going to rely on the volume side of it. in certain product lines, right? We want to have a really broad base. We want to build a really broad-based around the business. And we also want to make sure that we're doing the right things inside of our own organization to ensure that we get great flow-through profitability, which goes to the productivity side of it. And yes, the team continues to perform well on our productivity initiatives, which we previously discussed is cost reduction and margin expansion went into a fair bit of detail during automation fair in our Investor Day around those initiatives. But again, direct material costs and really driving out some of those costs and keeping inflation in check in the COGS area specifically.
I can't underscore enough that we had good expansion on the gross margin line in Q4. We had good gross margin expansion again in Q1. I mean that's really where you're seeing -- you see it up and down the P&L. But when we're talking about what's going on in the factories, what's happening with supply chain, you're seeing it in gross margin, which is outstanding. So feel good about that. Again, we can certainly go into a lot of detail around the different initiatives. We've done that before, and I'm happy to do that. But just know that this organization has built a really good muscle strength around this. We're leaning into that muscle memory as we go through this year and we go on and operationalize the work that we've done over the last 21 months.
And just to add, you asked about rock on rock. I mean, we talked at Investor Day in November about what we're seeing in terms of benefits labor efficiency, time to competency, reduced energy usage at our Singapore facility. And we're actively taking those learnings and best practices and rolling those into other existing facilities around the world, especially [indiscernible], which is a pretty important plan for us. So while a lot has been made of the new greenfield that we're building here in Southeastern Wisconsin. We're working already to make the investments in talent and digital infrastructure, technology in our existing facilities to be able to take advantage of those efficiencies that will come out of those improved workflows. And that's really the essence of that rock on rock. Yes, there's going to be a lot of Rockwell technology in there, but it's about our partners, it's about the overall ecosystem contributing to the benefits that we've already seen in Singapore.
That's helpful. And then you spoke about hybrid and answering a previous question, but maybe on discrete, semiconductors were still down in Q1, but does seem like a good cross industrial semiconductors are getting better. So maybe update us on your opportunities there? And then in general, you guys have been focusing on sort of bigger solutions for customers. Can that sort of help you in addition to improved product environment in the discrete market going growth?
Sure. So start specifically with semi. Let me start by saying Q1 had a tough comp. We had a unusually strong quarter a year ago. And so that was a little bit of what contributed to the down in the quarter. As kind of a refresher, we participate in semiconductor with some of the key tooling providers, the equipment manufacturers also wafer transport is a relatively new application that we address with independent car technology, and that continues to be a good source of benefit for us. software and implementing artificial intelligence as part of solutions to help with energy management is an application that we highlighted at Automation Fair amid some pretty tough competition.
We stood out there. Cybersecurity would be another area. And then the traditional strengths of providing the environmental controls for building management for the clean room. A lot of the CapEx right now in semiconductors is concentrated on the people who are participating in the AI build-out. So I wouldn't say that it's up and down the cast of players in semiconductor to be sure, around the world I think of Taiwan, for instance. So we see some very strong investment there, as you would expect, and we're winning. But it's still a volatile environment for semiconductor, as you know, and hence our outlook for the full year.
Our next question comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley. .
I wanted to ask about market demand trends. Are you still seeing -- continuing to see positive momentum on more of the shorter cycle kind of product business that you talked to in the back half '25. And it sounds like the bigger project business remains soft. But I believe at the Investor Day, you guys talked to strong double-digit '26 order expectations for the new capacity ads piece of the business. So just are you starting to see those orders come through and they just deliver at a slower rate because they're so long cycle? Or do you kind of still think that big project order ramps on the horizon?
Sure, Chris. And this will allow me to pick up a little bit of Andy's question just previously as well. We do continue to see good demand for modernizations and investment in brownfields that are probably heavier on the product side. And you see that in our results, really strong growth for our product-centric businesses and a little more subdued on the life cycle side.
In the first quarter, we did see good development and very good year-over-year growth in new capacity. What I would hasten to mention is that, that new capacity business is relatively evenly split across all of the business units. So we think of new capacity as big engineered solutions coming out of life cycle. And while there's some of that, there's also a lot of product business, a lot of logic, a lot of drives, a lot of motion that's going to engineering firms or integrators or machine builders that's still contributing to the build-out of new capacity in the U.S. So that obviously has good implications for profitability of that business and the development across all of the business areas. We're seeing it in certain verticals.
So we're seeing it in e-commerce and warehouse automation, of course. We've talked about a few greenfields here and there in some of the hybrid areas. We do expect that the build down of life sciences to contribute to positive growth for the year. But we haven't seen people letting those orders at the speed and at the breadth that would cause us to raise the organic guide for the full year. A lot of positive signals we just need to see it come through in orders.
I really appreciate that. And then maybe for 1 to Christian on margins. I guess obviously, the company has done an incredible job taking out costs and driving margins higher over the last year plus. When I look at the rest of the year guide, does it include any incremental cost-out opportunity? It did seem like there was still more room to run there from the Investor Day. And I just asked because it seems like the rest of the year is calling for even at the high end, maybe like a 35% kind of incremental, which a good number, but that feels like more normalized and not maybe seeing some of the benefits of incremental cost out.
Yes. Thanks, Chris. I appreciate that. For sure, productivity remains right in the center of our plans. We've got a lot of activity that's happening around that. As I mentioned, we saw a really good performance in Q1 on the productivity side of it, which came through in that core number. Yes, volume was the biggest driver of that core, but the second place item was productivity, and that is absolutely in our plans through the remainder of this year. Regarding the flow-through incremental, it's important to note, I mean, we're still talking about a -- we're getting a lot of tariff-based price, tariff-based cost comes through that, of course, when you're looking at incrementals year-over-year, that is going to dampen down that number. We're still -- for the full year, we're looking at a 40% number even with that headwind in there. .
So I think we feel pretty good about that. And ultimately, we're talking about a guide at this point unless -- and we're 1 quarter in, it's a really good way to start. We want to make sure we're prudent, and we're being rational about how this is going to perform through the remainder of the year. Let's get another quarter under our belts and let's see where we're sitting after that.
Our next question comes from Steve Tusa from JPMorgan.
Can we get a little bit of a bridge on this SNC margin pretty strong. What was the trend in like the software-related business there in that context?
Yes. Actually, in software control, it was pretty broad-based, and that it was not just -- I know we'd like to talk about Logix and Logix is important, but we actually saw it kind of throughout all the all the categories of the business, the software side had really good performance as well. Also, which is the product side of the business had really strong performance year-over-year.
The network side came through nicely too. So Blake, I don't know if you want to add any more commentary around that?
Well, just -- I don't know that we mentioned it before, but we talked about a 7% overall ARR for the company, split between software and then related services. The software ARR, particularly with Plex was actually higher than the average. And -- so we saw good growth, and that's, of course, a good profitable business for us. And as Christian said, it complements nicely the hardware portions of software and control. [indiscernible] is the open compute platforms. It's also factor back optics. So we have very competitive hardware and software offerings from that acquisition, and we're expecting a good year from them.
Okay. And then just a follow-up. Can you just reconcile the pretty strong earnings growth and margin expansion with the cash, which was down year-over-year. Is there like some noncash license earnings or something like that?
Yes. I mean, from a cash flow conversion perspective, we were always expecting free cash flow conversion to be at about this number in Q1. Two primary factors, 1 that was absolutely known was the incentive payouts from fiscal '25 performance happens in the first quarter of the following year. So that happened in this quarter. So it's an outsized number on that. which is a good thing. The other portion is that when we look at the year-over-year, in particular, working capital was a source of cash in the first quarter of '25, in the first quarter '26. Working capital was a slight use of cash both from the payables and the inventory perspective. So that drove a portion of the delta there. But all in all, we feel like we're tracking just fine there.
Just a follow-up on that. We did not have any incentive payouts that happened in the first quarter of last year. So that's why the delta year-over-year, again, in such the payout happened this year, but last year, there was nothing. So that goes into that year-over-year delta. Sorry about that. .
Our next question comes from Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research.
So we've talked about hybrids, talk about the screen. Let's complete the loop with process. But you are looking for, I think, low single-digit growth in process markets for the full year, or 10% in the quarter, I think plussing chemicals. And we have heard stronger project orders from LNG, power gen, et cetera. So just curious, do you see enough we bias to that outlook for process, number one. And then secondly, chemical strength, where are you seeing it and how do you feel that plays out?
Yes. So process performed nicely for us in the first quarter. As you mentioned, energy, is the single biggest part of that. Oil and gas remains important to us. About 10% of our business even after the dissolution of the Sensia joint venture. In this quarter, we actually saw a meaningful contribution of midstream.
So pipeline type of activity that we participate in, not just with the control systems but also the services, network monitoring is a good application for us. And then the power, which is a differentiator versus some of our competitors there as well. You certainly see contribution from Chemical, a really strong quarter and a little bit contrary to general dialogue around chemical. But our exposure is primarily in specialty chemical, which has been a bit more resilient than the bulk side of things. We also had, in the quarter, a nice set of competitive conversions. We've got a good combination of the technology as well as the expertise, and we're taking some business there. We talked about a win with Corteva in the chemical side.
And it is more of a project business, so it's a bit lumpy, but it was a good start, and we're looking forward to continuing that momentum. On the opposite side, of course, oil prices are still fairly low and so people are being ever mindful of being good stewards of their capital. And so they're paying a lot of attention to capital in the oil and gas side there. We've got some exposure to LNG but probably not as much as in the actual loan liquid side with [indiscernible].
Right. Yes. My follow-on, you made a bit clear that you've seen encouraging signs out there that you want to remain cautious, which is obviously the right MO. I'm just wondering, though, have you seen any change in behavior Obviously, we don't necessarily flip the calendar and everything is different. But it does feel like we're seeing good momentum in IP, [indiscernible] good orders, I had a big month in January. I'm just curious, if you think about your sort of macro barometer Blake, is it ticking higher here relative to the last time we spoke. And I guess my question is, are we seeing any sort of signs of infection in orders?
Yes. I think sentiment is similar to maybe slightly up. We're most correlated over a longer period of time with industrial production. So while the purchasing managers index going up, PMI is encouraging, we don't bank on that. There's still a lot of volatility out there. There's new headlines every day that can affect us. Tariffs remain still not as stable as I think we would like them to be. So IP is generally constructive, but it's a little bit of a longer-term metric. We know that in the rearview mirror that won't be the exact number that's being forecast now. So I think there's good sentiment. But again, we'd like to see the orders as more objective proof before we would move higher on the guide.
Okay. So it sounds like [indiscernible] are very stable.
Yes. I guess the one additional point is that the start to the second quarter is aligned with the guidance that we provided. .
Our next question comes from Andrew Buscaglia from BNP Pariba.
So kind of one of the great ironies this quarter as you guys had a big beat on the software side, whereas the rest of the software, is getting sort of crushed by AI concerns. So my question is twofold. Are you I know you get this question quite a bit, but it seems as if AI is kind of at our doorstep a little bit sooner than some people anticipated. Maybe -- are your customers -- or are you hearing anything regarding new competition from AI creeping in? And secondly, like some of these AI features you're introducing, sounds exciting. I think you talked about 1 in process. I potentially more impactful to your numbers then later than maybe you would have thought 6 months ago.
Yes. Great question. Look, we have artificial intelligence implemented at all levels of our architecture. We've had -- we've helped customers get value from machine learning for quite some time. And while a lot of the discussion of recent is copilots, generative AI, agenticAI, which we're using for internal productivity already in our own operations.
Our focus is on the impact and the efficiency and the simplification that we can provide to customers. So we're not looking at a general language model that is a sandbox for customers to play with. We want to be able to apply it for specific applications with specific productivity in mind or ways that we can simplify their workflows. And so you see it with the implementations of Vision AI to help enable pattern recognition and high-speed packaging, for instance, we see it with logic AI, that's a complement to the traditional control loop of interpreting inputs and changing the state of outputs to give more efficiency with AI so that the systems actually become more performant over time. And then we see it embedded in [indiscernible], for instance, in the demand planning module to give more accurate insight.
So we're not looking to create these large nebulous models rather than to take LLM and SLM to be able to provide real value for real-world problems at customers where the application understanding is still really important. And we are seeing some benefits already with that. We certainly see it in our own operations in Twinsburg, in Singapore, for instance, and we're helping to apply these things for customers as well.
I don't see a huge uplift in brand-new offerings being the most significant part of the benefit to Rockwell from successfully applying this in the production environment. I see the simplification of automation and digital transformation on the plant floor being the real prize that's going to help us grow share. And really importantly, we're not going in and saying, "Hey, rip everything that you have currently making your products out and put something new in it fortifies and complements the existing system. So it's much less disruptive, much less risky to be able to add this new capability, but with familiar products and familiar workflows.
Yes, very interesting. Okay. And maybe just 1 other one. Food and beverage, doing quite well, one of your biggest markets, same with automotive. I'm wondering, you're not really seeing the same trends with other companies talking about those markets, I mean, it's very mixed. Are we talking about just easy comps for you guys? Or are you guys this an early indicator of improvement in those markets? What are you seeing that maybe some other companies are in those 2 markets?
Yes. Traditionally, our participation and our strength in auto is historically, kind of at the leading inch of the cycle. Food and beverage has elements of that in the packaging side. It also has elements of process on the upstream side, that's typically a little bit later cycle historically. .
I think there was some help from comps in the first quarter, to be sure. As we've said, greenfields and automotive, still a little bit suppressed as they're taking the temperature of their customers to understand what's the optimal mix of EV versus hybrid versus internal combustion engines. And they're also really importantly, trying to get a good fix on their cost base for projects based on tariffs. But all that being said, we do have differentiated technology our major competitors don't have mobile robots, and they don't have the ability, even the competitors that have mobile robots don't have this huge capabilities in fixed automation and to bring that together has really impacted the imagination of those customers, both the the brand owners as well as the tier suppliers.
And then our software tools, Emulate3D Logix Echo, FactoryTalk Design Studio are second to none in terms of being able to help these customers bring together the worlds of traditional automation with digital transformation. And that's true for both automotive as well as food and beverage. So yes, I think those tend to be a little bit earlier cycle for us. But we've got differentiated offerings there and we're winning.
Our last question will come from Tommy Moll from Stephens. .
I wanted to follow up on auto. Just 1 data point to reference. GM made some pretty bullish comments a week or so ago on their near-term spending plans in North America and granted, that's just 1 of many data points, but specifically in North America, does it feel like anything has maybe ticked a little bit higher. I'm not talking about orders even just conversations or the level of visibility? I mean, last quarter, you were talking about it, it stabilized at a low level. Has anything changed since?
Look, I mean, I'm happy to see a positive number in the first quarter for automotive and an outlook for the full year positive in auto because we went through a period of time where that wasn't the case. .
We've talked about some of the nice wins that we've had over the last couple of years that are continuing to perform for us. We talked about Hyundai, for instance, and a number of others. But there's still quite concerned about the tariff environment. They've made some commitments to increase North America. They are investing in modernization for their lines. So we're winning some nice EV work. We talked about Lucid in November. But tariffs are still jumping around a little bit. And I think I would just like to see again, that positive sentiment turn into actual orders before we know it's there.
Thank you. That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us today. .
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Rockwell Automation — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
Rockwell Automation — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Berichtete Verkäufe +12% YoY; Management spricht außerdem von doppeltstelliger organischer Umsatzsteigerung.
- ARR: Annual Recurring Revenue +7% YoY, im Rahmen der Erwartungen.
- Margen: Gesamte Segmentmarge 20,7%; Segmentmargen-Expansion +360 Basispunkte YoY.
- Ergebnis: Adjusted EPS $2,75 (über den Erwartungen).
- Cashflow: Free Cash Flow Q1 $170M, -$123M YoY (Arbeitskapital und Incentive-Auszahlungen).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Produktivität: Fokus auf strukturelle Produktivitätsmaßnahmen (Material, Supply Chain, kommerzielle Ausgaben) zur Margenausweitung; KI wird als Hebel genannt.
- Software & Produkte: Starkes Momentum in Software/Control (Logix, neues L9-Controller, Plex‑Wins, Emulate3D, Copilot‑Funktionen) als Differenzierer.
- Investitionen & Portfolio: Engagement in US‑Produktion (Neues Werk in New Berlin; Kauf Mequon) und Rückführung des Sensia‑Prozessgeschäfts zu Rockwell.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Umsatzprognose: Organisches Wachstum beibehalten bei 2–6% für FY26, Midpoint setzt auf sukzessive Verbesserung.
- Profitabilität: Erwartete Segmentmargen‑Erweiterung >100 bps für das Jahr; Full‑Year Incrementals ~40% (Q1 war ~50%).
- EPS & Steuern: Adjusted EPS‑Midpoint angehoben auf $11,80; untere Range auf $11,40; erwartete effektive Steuerquote ~19,5% (vorher 20%).
- Weitere Kennzahlen: Free cash flow Conversion ~100%, CapEx ~3% des Umsatzes, geplante Rückkäufe ~$500M. Sensia‑Auflösung (erwartet 1. April): annualisierte Umsatzreduktion ≈ $250M und ~50 bps Margenverbesserung, nicht in Guide enthalten.
- Q2‑Ausblick: Leicht sequenzieller Umsatzanstieg, mittlere einstellige YoY‑Wachstumsrate, moderate Margenverbesserung (<100 bps); Q2 EPS‑Ziel ~ $2,85 (inkl. ~ $0,10 Steuerschritte).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- CapEx‑Timing: Analysten fragten nach Sichtbarkeit; Management sieht Optimismus, verlangt aber mehr Aufträge als Bestätigung, bevor höhere Ziele gerechtfertigt sind.
- Margentreiber: Diskussion über Flow‑through: Q1‑Incrementals stark (~50%); Management bestätigt Produktivität als dauerhaften Hebel, Tarif‑basierte Preiswirkung dämpft jedoch Incrementals.
- KI & Wettbewerb: Fragen zu AI‑Risiken beantwortet mit klarer Position: gezielte, anwendungsorientierte AI‑Features (z.B. Thermo Fisher Proof‑Point), kein generischer LLM‑Sandbox‑Ansatz.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Solider Q1‑Beat mit starker Marginentwicklung und klarer Strategie ‑ Software, Produktivität und KI als Treiber. Guidance bleibt konservativ; Entscheidend bleiben eingehende Bestellungen und die Umsetzung der Sensia‑Rückführung. Für Aktionäre: positives Momentum, aber Risiko liegt in der Auftragseingangs‑Visibility und geopolitischen/tarifären Unsicherheiten.
Rockwell Automation — Analyst/Investor Day - Rockwell Automation, Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Welcome to Rockwell Automation Investor Day 2025. Please give a round of applause for your Event MC, Aijana Zellner, Vice President, Investor Relations and Market Strategy.
Welcome everyone, and thank you for joining us for the webcast portion of our Annual Investor Day. We began the day with a customer presentation from Brian Snyder, who shared how Rockwell is helping ThermoFisher accelerate their vision for the Factory of the Future. A great example of how our technology and partnership deliver results. In a world full of AI potential, Rockwell is implementing AI in ways that actually drive productivity. And as the world's largest pure play in industrial automation and digital transformation, our portfolio is unmatched. Today, you'll hear from more customers who are transforming their operations with Rockwell as their partner.
During today's presentation, we'll walk through the 4 pillars of our Rockwell operating model: high-performance culture, accelerated top line growth, margin expansion and operational excellence. We'll start with an update from our Chairman and CEO, Blake Moret, on our strategic growth framework and how our operating model continues to drive focus. Then our business segment leaders will share how Rockwell is driving innovation for our customers. You'll hear from Matheus Bulho, our SVP of Software and Control, on how we are differentiating through technology; Tessa Myers, SVP of Intelligent Devices, on how Rockwell is leading this shift from automation to autonomy; and Matt Fordenwalt, SVP of Lifecycle Services with real-world examples of customer transformation.
Our CFO, Christian Rothe, will share our progress on our margin expansion strategy and how we're continuing to execute with discipline. We'll wrap up with our Chief Supply Chain Officer, Bob Buttermore, who will share how we're using our own technology to modernize our operations and bring the factory of the future to life right here at Rockwell. Lastly, we'll open up the floor for a live Q&A session. So with that, please join me in welcoming Blake Moret to the stage.
Okay. Thanks, and welcome again. I'd like to take just a minute to double down on the importance and the significance of this event. I've been coming to these as many of you have for a long time and to see the power of Rockwell and our ecosystem on full display at an automation fair is something I think is worth noting. We'll have over 15,000 people here either employees, customers, suppliers, channel partners, all here because they're a part of the Rockwell story.
And when you see our partners and our shared objectives with them, with the trust that's built over decades, that's meaningful. And it's an integral part really of our culture that we create, and it adds value along our journey. And we've been on a journey to combine more ways to win with traditional sources of value, expertise with technology. Over the last few years, we've had to add resilience to our model with more urgency than ever before. But where we are today, I wouldn't trade places with anyone. And quite simply, we are the most used technology in American industry, but with a draw and an interest that's growing around the world.
So just a couple of comments on culture as kind of the first pillar of that operating model. Culture drives performance. And I think that a culture is really defined most centrally by the behavior of current employees and partners, but it's shaped by expectations that persist for many years. We accentuate the positive, and we strengthen what is especially important at different points in our journey. And we'll talk about some of the things that are particularly important at this point in our journey over the next little while.
The principles of our culture are the same ones that I talked to the Board about before I came into this role, and I think they're still as vibrant today. It's about integrity and inclusion and continuing to demonstrate in everything we do a commitment to that. It's about willing to compare ourselves -- being willing to compare ourselves against all of the choices that a stakeholder has, whether that stakeholder is a customer, an employee, obviously, an investor, a partner and to think about that every day. Incremental improvements on what we are already doing is important, but we have to make sure that there's not a better mousetrap out there. And if there is, that we're willing to consider that. And I think that's been an important part of the evolution of Rockwell over the years.
It's about increased speed of decision-making, and it's about a steady stream of new ideas, both from people who have grown up in the company as well as new perspectives. And so just to take an extra minute on that, on the talent in the organization, it really does demonstrate our commitment to this idea of hearing a steady stream of new ideas from all voices that can contribute to the best outcome. You think about what we've added in the last few years to complement our traditional expertise, data science from Kalypso and Knowledge Lens. We've built a control-level cloud from the ground up. We thought that we needed to do that our and you see that manifested in things like FactoryTalk DesignStudio.
At the information level with acquisitions like Plex and Fiix and ASEM. Partners helping to provide us with customer intimacy to complement our own. And at the leadership level, and of course, we'll have leadership on full display over the next hour or so, it's seasoned leadership who understands the automation market and our customers, both the lifers like me who have grown up in Rockwell as well as people demonstrating new perspectives. I think we collectively are comfortable with the opportunities and the challenges of technologies like artificial intelligence. We're making sure our organizations embrace that and think about using that, harnessing those capabilities for maximum. And we're very well positioned as we move forward, and we manifest ourselves as a learning organization. Just like the technologies increasingly are about learning, the organization needs to continue to be a learning organization as well. So that's culture.
Let's move on to the next pillar of the operating model, and that's accelerated top line growth. That growth framework that we released in November of 2023 is still intact, and I feel good about the progress we've made in each of these levels. We are fundamentally an organic growth story. We're in an attractive market with a lot of secular drivers as people around the world are recognizing the importance of manufacturing. But specifically here in our home market, where we're seeing the highest growth, we obviously have a special place.
Globally, we expect about 5% CAGR in the market that we serve over the next 5 years. That includes price, and that's obviously an important part of it. But there are some fundamental drivers as companies are looking to add resilience and agility and sustainability to their operations. They're also recognizing that there's no way that countries with relatively high labor costs like the U.S. can reindustrialize without complementing that labor with the technologies such as we offer. And then when it comes to price, we've dramatically the percentage realization and the speed with which we can implement price changes since 2022.
Many of you remember the discussions at that time where we were lagging a little bit in our ability to implement and realize price, we made changes, and those are serving us in very good stead now as we see the increased volatility of tariffs, but we expect going forward as well, whether tariffs are an issue or not to be able to get regular price increases implemented quickly. And you'll hear Christian talk a lot more about that here in a little bit.
This is a graphic that you haven't seen before that talks about Rockwell's key served markets. First, I'll state the obvious. We have great market access and really good balance between discrete, hybrid and process end markets. Process is fully 40% of our total business now with good capabilities in control, in services, in power control, and we expect that to only improve in the years to come. We had hundreds of people at our process users group earlier this week, and they're very interested in new Logix capabilities, Software Defined Automation that Matheus is going to talk about is especially interesting to those customers as they look to free themselves of bespoke hardware that they're captive to in some ways for many, many years, and we have some opportunities to disrupt in that respect, new power control offerings, digital services because simulation is important in process as it is in discrete as well.
And overall, we're growing as a faster ratio than historically to industrial production. And it's due to this good balance and this proactive selection of target verticals as well as the new ways to win that we've introduced.
Automotive remains important to us. It's all forms of propulsion. So right now, one of the key activities is people who were on a headlong rush to EVs are kind of rebalancing and coming back to more hybrid and even ICE engines. And we have great readiness to serve in all those areas. E-commerce and Warehouse Automation, the single fastest-growing vertical that we have. And there's multiple subsegments there that are contributing to that growth. Obviously, Data Center with what we're doing with the CUBIC acquisition for power distribution, but also an increasing number of data center operators are finding that it's very attractive to switch in the building management systems from the DDC, the distributed control that they've been using to industrial control systems like Logix. And we see that as a strong contributor to continuing double-digit growth into next year and beyond.
We also see within that e-Commerce segment, obviously, new fulfillment centers, parcel handling, and you'll hear from Joel Stenson in just a little bit as he and I talk about what we're doing for UPS, as well as a lot of the consumer packaged goods companies who are recognizing that this concept of Production Logistics, bringing material to the make line and then taking finished product away to the loading dock and to the warehouse is a really important part of their efficiency plans. There's still a lot of forklifts whizzing around. There's a lot of people pushing carts with packaging material as a line sits idle waiting to be resupplied and our Production Logistics capabilities are fueling a lot of that growth.
CPG, people continuing to modernize, making their facilities more resilient. Life Sciences as an aging population wants to live longer, healthier lives, and we certainly heard from Ryan about that from ThermoFisher's point of view. And then energy, the world is still using 100 million barrels plus of oil a day and getting that pumped out of the ground and distributed efficiently is still high on their priority list.
The next level in our growth algorithm is the ability to expand our served market and to take share. One of the things that we have in our advantage is home field advantage in the U.S. We have the largest share by a lot in the U.S. And so the additional investment in the U.S. naturally accrues at a greater rate to Rockwell. We have the largest installed base. We have the best partners. We have the highest share and the deepest relationships. And I like that list of advantages. And we have the ability to go into customers that are already standardized on the basic automation from Rockwell and to be able to add more ways to win in terms of software, services, mobile robots.
And then obviously, the ability to take existing products and to be able to infuse them with artificial intelligence to give those workers superpowers at all levels of the tech stack, whether it be at the Intelligent Device level, things like Vision AI, Logix AI, the use of artificial intelligence in mobile robots and then in scheduling applications. We're doing it today, and we're doing it in a less disruptive way by infusing it into existing products and workflows to reduce the risk of being able to get the benefits for these customers. You see more great examples of the things that we're doing here at different levels, right? I've talked about our Production Logistics portfolio. Software and Control, the ability to help customers create Digital Twins to implement model predictive control and lifecycle services, the digital services, which, by the way, allow us to engage with our customers at a higher level than we ever did as Rockwell in their organizations.
So the next section is going to focus on our technology differentiation as a key enabler to create autonomous operations at our customers. And we'll also talk about the progress and our expectations for capacity expansion at our customers, both globally and in the U.S. because it is a global game. So the business leaders that you're going to hear from next have all taken different paths through Rockwell. They've come up through the technology route. They've had exposure to commercial positions, IT, services, international assignments, but the sum total of that creates what I think is a really impressive synergy as they collaborate together to bring our objectives to life.
And so with that, I'm going to introduce Matheus Bulho to talk a little bit about our technology. Matheus has driven the modernization of our Control and Software Technology. And that's a pretty broad statement, but I think it's warranted. And it took a respected insider to be able to move the center of gravity in the organization. So with that, I'd like to welcome Matheus to the stage.
Okay. Good morning. Thanks for being here with us. Blake talked a little bit about this future, future of autonomy. And for that to become reality, we need technology. And in particular, there are 3 that I would like to talk to you about today, 3 that we believe are essential: Software Defined Automation, Artificial Intelligence, and Robotics. So I will be walking you through some of the progress that we have made and continue to make across every single one of them today. So let's get going. Let's get started with Software Defined Automation.
Our plan for Software Defined Automation is quite simple. We have been working to make the entire production system stack software defined. If you listen to this market and what is talked about in this industry, much of what you hear is very narrowly focused on one dimension of this opportunity, typically Software Defined Control. And here at Rockwell, we have been doing that and applying Software Defined Automation concepts across every other layer of the stack. I'm going to give you a few examples right now.
So take, for example, Design. Blake talked a little bit about that. FactoryTalk DesignStudio, one system-wide application, logically defined, object-oriented, modern way of constructing systems completely, completely abstracted from hardware, entirely software-defined. Once these systems are designed, they can then be simulated. They can be tested entirely, not just the automation system, but the entire production line, all in the virtual space with things like FactoryTalk Echo, Emulate 3D. And then when you talk about the next layer, when you are running your system, visualization and plant information systems, things like FactoryTalk Optix that you will see an abundance in our show floor. One, One Software Defined runtime that scales from simple operator interface all the way up to complex plant-wide information systems. It runs in our hardware or anybody's hardware entirely, entirely software-defined.
And when it comes to control, I would submit to you that just plain and simple, no one, no one in this industry has done more to contribute towards Software Defined Control as we have. That journey began with Logix. Logix did many, many things for this industry. But one thing it did that had the largest contribution to Software Defined Control is that it took all of the additional needs of control that surrounded the PLC, things that were employed in dedicated hardware, things like functional safety, hardware for general motion control, hardware for robotics, hardware for the DCS, the process and many more, most recently, process safety, and it turned all of that hardware into Software Defined capabilities, native, integrated into the Logix environment. And that alone, that alone not only had the largest contribution to Software Defined Control, but it's also what has made and continues to make Logix the most trusted and the most valuable control system run time in the world to date. But we haven't stopped innovating.
When you think about the next wave of evolution, we have what we call Logix SDA. Logix SDA is different. It's unique. It's different than the traditional approach to virtual control. It's different than the approach that people have applied towards soft control. And the reason it's different is because if we're honest, soft control, the idea of virtual control, it's not new. We ourselves have had it for decades. And the reality is in this market, it has largely failed to gain any meaningful adoption. And that's exactly why Logix SDA is different. We understand why soft control needs to be done differently. And there are quite a few things, but I'll point to 2 right now for you.
First, our approach to Logix SDA brings forward all of these disciplines of control that I just talked about: safety, motion, robotics and so on, brings them forward because it makes no sense for people to talk about virtual control for one piece of the system and it still need dedicated hardware for everything else. So Logix SDA solves for that, which is one of the main reasons why soft control hasn't gained any meaningful adoption.
The second thing that Logix SDA does differently, and again, there are many more. It solves for the complex lifecycle management that's involved in deploying real-time control on open platforms. Things like what it takes to provision real-time control, so it can perform. Things like what it takes to manage the dependencies, the operating system, the things that will be running alongside on the same compute surface so that when they crash or compromised, control remains resilient, remain intact. Not to mention what it takes to secure, secure open platforms that are running control. Logix SDA solves for all of that. And just like Logix redefined the idea of the PLC, Logix SDA, it's going to change virtual control in a way that allows it to truly scale.
So we're very excited. I hope you had a chance to see it because it's in the show floor. Our first variant is what we call Logix Edge. It's exactly what it sounds. It's Logix running on edge compute. But Logix SDA is there in the show floor in many other forms included in our AMRs. So I'm very excited about what we're about to do again in this industry and continue to change what it takes to consume Automation in a Software Defined manner.
But Software Defined alone does not yield autonomy. It creates the conditions for your system to be agile, for software to move freely in the compute that's available across your enterprise. But for you to get to autonomy, you need intelligence. And just like SDA, and as Blake mentioned, we have been applying artificial intelligence across the entire stack. You see it here, and we talked about it last year, and we've continued to evolve all the way from end devices, scaling all the way up to plant information solutions.
But we know that the real question is not whether we have AI. You're going to see many other automation players with AI in their stack. The real question is how, how AI is being used. And here at Rockwell, we are focused on where we believe AI adds the most value. Now I'm going to point to 3 today. The first is AI that's used to power production system design. Second is once these systems are designed, how we use AI, so the system can continuously optimize. The system can learn, it can get better. It can do more over time because it runs for a very long operational lifecycle. And then third is how we're using AI to transform plant information systems with agentic technology.
And our differentiation across all 3 of this, it's quite strong. Take, for example, with Design. By being the first to cloud with a truly cloud-native production system design environment. We have been able to introduce capabilities, AI capabilities to our customers much earlier. Last year, we talked about all of the generative AI capabilities that are embedded in FactoryTalk DesignStudio, and we've continued to evolve that, AI that help people do their work better, help people be more productive. And this year, what you saw in the show floor is the next wave of transformation. We're not only just helping people do work, we're using AI to do the work for people with new agents, agents that take inputs, drawings, specifications, code libraries, you name it. And then we'll reason through that and do the bulk of the work for the entire system because FactoryTalk DesignStudio deals with the entire system.
So AI-powering Design does a lot for our customers, and we're going to be leading what it takes to reduce the cost of Design system as much as practical. And for us, AI applied to Design also opens up a whole new set of opportunities because it dramatically simplifies what it takes to consume automation. So automation can be more broadly used across many more use cases. So we're very, very excited about that degree of differentiation there.
When it comes to AI that's used for process optimization, the most valuable data that informs optimization of control systems and processes, they live in the automation controller. They live in Logix. And when you have such large share, especially in North America, where most of this technology is being consumed, you have the assets to deliver the most value to your customers, and that's exactly where we're at. And then when you think about agentic plant information systems, it's a broad spectrum of solutions we have from maintenance with Fiix, visualization systems with Optix, MES with Plex, quality management with Plex and many more.
Think about this. Just take Plex as an example. Plex is exposed to over 10 billion transactions every single day, not every week, not every month, trillions over the spectrum of a year. And that's happening across thousands of plants. When you have such rich data set, you can create the AI capability agents that will transform MES. Plex is going to be leading the next wave of agentic MES transformation. It's going to be changing MES from pure systems of interaction to systems of autonomy, and we couldn't be more proud of how that's continued to progress across the organization.
So you take Software Defined Automation and you take AI and you get autonomy. You get a good amount of autonomy, but you can get even more autonomy if your system is actually free from physical constraints, from mechanical constraints because a lot of the -- what the intelligence is doing is actually causing change to happen throughout the system and the system needs to adapt. And that's why we have been investing in robotic solutions in this market. And we have a very comprehensive set of robotic solutions, all the way from very strong partnerships where we simplify what it takes to integrate a robot control system with the rest of the automation that's already available in the rest of the production line and reduce the risk of integrating disparate technologies, all the way to further simplifying that by moving the robot controller function as a Software Defined capability natively into Logix, providing people a significant degree of simplification in that process, all the way to the integration of the entire stack, including the mechanics, including robotics where we have the opportunity to add the most value. And they also happen to be the geometries, the types of robotics that are fastest growing in this market. So we're very excited about what we've continued to build with respect to the most comprehensive set of robotic solutions that's out there.
And I trust that as I walked you through Software Defined Automation, Artificial Intelligence and Robotics that you could get a sense for how complete our software portfolio is across the entire stack. It's software that's focused on production. We're dedicated to powering production systems. That's what we do. That's what we live for. Not only it's a very complete software stack, it's one of the most modern stacks in this industry, and we're very, very proud of it. But you don't need to take this only from me.
What I'd like to do today is invite one of our good customers, Lucid Motors, so they can share a little bit with you a little more about how we've been able to create value together. So please join me and welcome Gaetano Cantalupo from Lucid.
Gaetano, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here with us. It's an honor and a pleasure. So I have a few questions for you. So I know that Lucid has just gone through a pretty substantial upgrade for your execution for the MES layer. Can you talk a little bit about how that's impacted your operations?
Yes. I really like this question. We already discussed with other colleagues around this on the upgrade we just did. And I like to describe this as a nonevent in a very positive way. So the point is the team came to me a few months ago and say, "Oh, we need to upgrade the MES system." MES is the backbone for our factory. And they showed me the plan, and the plan was absolutely overlapped with our plan to scale up the production. We are in scaling up also the production of the new vehicle. So we have a new vehicle in the plant.
And then I say, "Wow, upgrade is not matching with normal production." Anyway, I approved the plan. We move forward and I forgot. And a couple of months later, I call them and say, "Oh, where are we with the MES upgrade?" And they say, "Oh, it's done." I say, "Okay, thank you." So the point is -- and we start to see the new feature. We start to see how powerful is this new MES system. So thank you for what you're doing.
That's great to hear. That's -- we're very, very happy that it continues to progress well with you. And we know that Lucid is scaling globally. And how important is for Lucid to have a strong digital foundation as you continue to build more?
Yes. It's -- I mean, consistency is absolutely critical. We are on a very fast pace. We are building -- I want to -- I'd like to say the most advanced vehicle. And to do this, you really need to push the boundary of the innovation to the limit. And not only, we are doing in a very high speed. If you see our milestone, we started in 2019 with the construction of the greenfield plant. 2021, we had the SOP of the car. At the same time, 2 years later, we started the construction of a factory in Saudi in KAEC. And a few years later from the SOP of the Arizona plant, we quadruple, we multiplied by 4 our footprint. So we moved from 800,000 square feet to close to 4 million.
Now -- and the point is now we are continuing with this space. We are introducing new model. We are introducing the new midsized platform, a more affordable vehicle. Now all of this can be done only if you really unify your backbone, you unify your digital backbone. And this is helping us to efficiently scaling up, for sure, reducing the risk and for sure, to maintain the quality of what we do across all the different regions. So again, the fact -- the point is and the key is to create a complete connected ecosystem that is operating our processes.
That's great. That's great to hear and count on us to continue to work together on that. I know that Lucid is thinking about even more innovation. And I know that you're considering autonomous mobile robots as part of your operations. Can you talk a little about why and the benefits you were expecting?
Yes. We are reimagining -- we have redesigned how we deliver the material to line side. This is a key factor because I mean, building a car means thousands and thousands of parts that has to go together in time and in sequence. So we really need to have a system that is absolutely robust. Now this AMR system like the OTTO are really helping us on redesign or reimagine. Now the point is it's not only an help on the efficiency, to have the efficiency or to have the system that is running smoothly and so on, but it's also addressing several issues that -- for example, the safety.
So having more AMR running in the plant, you eliminate forklift, you eliminate trolley stuff like this from the plant and you are increasing dramatically the safety of your environment. Not only, this AMR system is really helping us to manage criticality because they are real time -- they are taking the cheese on using real-time data and they autonomously manage eventually bottleneck or congestion of the flow, creating different route, rerouting or whatever it is, way faster than you can do by yourself.
That's great. It's great when you have one solution that can solve for multiple opportunities. That's great. So what's next? What's next for Lucid? And how do you see our collaboration and working together?
The next is already today. The point is we are continuing with this path. We are continuing with the Lucid way of doing stuff. We cut from legacy constraint or traditional technology. We really embraced the innovation. And again, you talk a lot about the software design. Actually, we also changed the product. Our vehicle, our car, I mean, is different. It's a really Software Defined product. Now to build this, you need to software-define your manufacturing process. And this is what we are doing.
So system like Emulate 3D, we invest very heavily on simulating and to create a Digital Twin or as you want to call, to be sure that in the moment that I start to install the first machine on the line side, this machine has been fully tested; fully, let's say, stressed, let's say, in this way, in the digital world. And I'm not talking about the single machine. I'm talking about the complete ecosystem. Now I say before, Autonomous is not make the automation of a machine, is to build a complete ecosystem that is connecting all the dots from logistics to production, to the machine, to the process.
100%. Well, Gaetano, thank you very much for being here with us. It's incredible, and we're honored to be part of your journey. So thank you for taking the time very much.
Thank you.
Okay. So you heard me talk about these technology pillars that enable Autonomy. What I'd like to do now is to invite my colleague, Tessa Myers, to the stage, so she can tell you how we've been helping people combine them to transform operations and move towards this future of Autonomy. So please join me and welcome Tessa.
Okay. Good morning. As Matheus said, I'm going to take the opportunity to share with you how we bring all of this together, all of the new technologies that you just heard about and hopefully saw on the expo floor yesterday. When we combine artificial intelligence, Software Defined Automation and Robotics with our core automation capabilities and our domain expertise, we're able to unlock the potential of Autonomous operations with our customers.
Imagine a factory where machines anticipate needs before they arise, where material moves seamlessly without human intervention and production lines adjust in real time to changes in demand or disruptions. Yesterday's factories reacted. Tomorrow's factories will anticipate. With -- a great example of bringing this all together is an area we call Production Logistics, which is really about the orchestration of the Digital, the data in a manufacturing operation and the physical, the resources, the material movement throughout the manufacturing process.
Production Logistics brings together advanced material handling solutions, things like AMRs and independent cart technology. It brings together fleet management and operation software to plan, schedule and then execute work orders on the manufacturing floor. And it brings together our consulting and our domain expertise to help customers understand where their biggest opportunities to drive efficiency in their logistics and help them implement in their manufacturing environment.
It's not though just about what we do, the technology that we deliver to our customers. A real differentiator for Rockwell is how we work with them and how we help them identify the best opportunities for them to improve. We connect our innovation with practical implementation, helping our customers understand what are their best opportunities for productivity and improvement in their operations and bringing the combination of expertise and technology to them.
We find customers at all different stages of maturity in their journeys to Autonomous Operations. While many have started down the path, we see enterprise customers who are moving more quickly, acting a little more boldly as they drive their autonomous operation strategies, and we see small and medium-sized customers really getting started. But what's important is we meet them, as Blake said, where they're at. And we help them understand what are the best opportunities and next steps that they can take to move forward. And we're pretty early in the adoption cycle. So we've got a long runway ahead of us and opportunity in collaborating with our customers.
Importantly, this journey from digital silos to a connected, efficient operations really applies across the industries that we serve from high mix discrete manufacturing to continuous process. And we've dramatically improved our ability to serve across that wide range of industries over the last few years. And we've expanded our capabilities with all of our new technologies and new capabilities that we've built organically and through acquisition, we've significantly increased the amount of value and opportunity that we can work with our customers on.
I think the best way to demonstrate this to you is with a customer example. And so I'm going to take us on a little tour of a virtual factory. We have great partnerships with customers all around the world. A significant industry for us is the global food and beverage industry. And I want to share with you the work that we're doing with a Fortune 100 global food and beverage manufacturer, helping them drive towards a more autonomous operations. They've invested heavily in smart factories, leveraging core automation technology, sensors, control architecture, intelligent devices that are really helping them automate tasks like package sorting, product packaging, helping them drive efficiency in their operations.
They're deploying Digital Twins in their operations, both in manufacturing to understand design changes and improvements that they can make, but as well in their warehousing operations so that they can see how to make more efficient the logistics across their plant network. Artificial intelligence is a central part of their strategy. They're leveraging the combination of AI and automation for improving quality outcomes, quality control, predictive maintenance, optimizing the ingredients that are used in their plants. So they're using AI and automation to adjust the temperature and texture of products in real time, they're using AI and sensors to monitor machine conditions and predict when potential failures might occur, and they're using AI-powered vision systems to assess the raw materials that are coming into their process so that they can tune that process to create the perfect product every time.
They've deployed intelligent material movement, so the combination of independent cart and AMRs in their manufacturing facility so that they can seamlessly deliver materials to their production lines, making the overall plant flow more efficient and safer for their operators and workers across the plant. And all of this is built on a connected IT/OT infrastructure to help them optimize the deployment of these technologies in their operations and allowing them to harness the valuable data that's being produced by all of the equipment and processes across their plants. All of these new capabilities are helping them be more energy efficient, more sustainable and more productive across their plant operations. Autonomous operations aren't a distant dream. They are one next era of growth, and we're making progress with our customers, one plant, one process, one partner at a time.
So with that, I will invite Blake to join me on the stage. Thank you.
Thanks, Tessa. There's really nothing better than to talk about a specific customer that is bringing all of these disciplines together and getting value and picked us over strong competition from around the world. Tessa has been involved with a lot of these customers directly as we've looked at bringing these different pieces together, both from her organization and from others. She was also involved in a lot of the early acquisition integration activities, bringing those new technologies, those new people into the organization. And I'm very happy with our progress there.
We talked about an end user, but obviously, the machine builders are an important part of this as well. So let's hear from GEA, which is a great customer of ours. They're investing heavily in the U.S., but they're working with us to win around the world.
Thank you, Blake. It's a real pleasure to join you and your investors today. At GEA, we are a team of more than 18,000 people worldwide. We build high-tech industrial machines and process lines for the food, beverage and pharmaceutical industries. Our technologies are part of everyday life, every second liter of beer, every fourth package of pasta, every second tablet to treat cancer, they all rely on GEA engineering.
North America is a key growth market for us. We generate over EUR 1 billion in revenue here, and we invest strongly in this region because we believe in its economic potential. Let me give you a concrete example. In Janesville, Wisconsin, we invested $20 million in a state-of-the-art facility for the manufacturing and maintenance of our machines, including logistics and training. But we didn't stop there. Right next door, we invested another $20 million in our new food application and technology center. This is where we help our customers develop future foods like egg alternatives, cultivated meat or cultivated seafood.
Why are we doing this? Because the demand is real. We are already working with companies like Believer Meats. They have built the world's largest cultivated chicken production facility in North Carolina with GEA technology. This is not a distant vision. It is happening now, and North America is leading the way. Everything we do is guided by our purpose, engineering for a better world, and that starts with sustainability.
For example, our Janesville facility runs on renewable energy. It is designed for low water use and waste reduction. We also help our customers produce more sustainably. Our eco-friendly family of Add Better Solutions is significantly more resource efficient than earlier models, by up to 50% in many cases. This is independently validated, that's good for the planet and good for the business. To deliver advanced sustainable solutions at scale, we rely on strong partners. And that's where Rockwell Automation comes in.
Rockwell is a strategic partner for us. Our collaboration spans our entire business. We combine GEA's deep process and engineering expertise with Rockwell's leadership in automation and digital technology. Together, we build the solutions that help our customers operate more efficiently and sustainably. For our customers, this partnership delivers real value, better performance, greater reliability and technology they can trust. It shows what's possible when 2 industry leaders join forces. Our ambition is clear, to be the key partner for our customers in North America and working with a leader like Rockwell is crucial to making that happen. Thank you so much.
So we really appreciate the partnership with Stefan and GEA and the rest of his organization. He talked about expansion in the U.S. and to go a little bit deeper on the topic of investment in capital projects, especially here in our home market in the U.S., I'd like to invite Matt Fordenwalt to the stage. Matt leads our Lifecycle Services business and Lifecycle Services as a business segment is instrumental in a lot of these new capacity builds. Matt has brought profitable scale to new offerings like Cybersecurity Services, Digital Twin creation and Other Recurring Services revenue. So Matt, please join.
It's great to be here. Great to see everyone.
We've done a great job, I think, of diversifying our market exposure. We talk about our good access into discrete and hybrid and process markets. And when we look at some of the specific capital investments, we see that they're split relatively evenly between areas that we have relatively lower share in like data center and semiconductor with traditional strongholds of Rockwell and that we see here like pharma, water treatment and things like that.
Process, as I mentioned before, is now our largest segment. It's 40% of our total business. And we also have core strength in areas like food and beverage within Hybrid, Life Sciences, Automotive and Discrete, of course, and they're yielding great opportunities over the coming years. We also have those emerging growth areas with new ways to win into e-commerce, warehouse automation and, of course, data centers.
Matt, your Lifecycle Services business has really been a central part of this. It's been a door opener and a significant source of value in a lot of these opportunities.
Yes. Thank you, Blake. One of the things as a company that we worked on really, really hard is diversifying our capabilities, creating those new ways to win. It's been a major driver of profitable growth for Rockwell Automation, and the Lifecycle Services segment is a dramatically different business than it was 10 years ago. We now have Cyber. We have Digital Services, AI-driven Solutions, and we're reaching much earlier into partnerships that engage customers long before they ever break ground. This has made us a true end-to-end strategic adviser for our customers' journey towards autonomy.
We've had good orders for new capacity in fiscal year '25. They were higher than they were in '24, and we expect new capacity orders to grow strong double digits in fiscal year '26. Matt, your team has been involved with a lot of these wins. And maybe let's talk about how you and our partner ecosystem are winning these roles and delivering on.
Yes. So we've expanded our partnerships dramatically. We're engaging engineering firms, OEMs, system integrators, and we're engaging customers much earlier and much higher than we've ever done before. So I'll give you 2 quick examples of how that's coming to life.
In both cases, our team was engaged very early on, consulting well before an automation decision was made. Helping our customers deliver new capacity faster with higher quality and better predictability. These are the projects where Rockwell's technology that Matheus talked about earlier and our expertise are at the heart of that transformation.
Electrolit is investing $400 million in a 640,000 square foot state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in Texas. This plant blends liquids, producing over 1 million bottles a day across 26 flavors, operating 24/7 on 4 lines. So to accelerate and ensure the success of this project, our Kalypso consulting team is delivering a comprehensive digital transformation package. This means working across multiple OEMs to create a Digital Twin that contextualizes each line and then digitizes the full plant. This is going to save both the end customer and the OEM tremendous time in deploying it because they have a virtual replica of each line. Emulate 3D technology enables that virtual commissioning by simulating every single aspect of the line, how it comes together before a machine ever reaches the site.
Another aspect of our secure digital operations architecture is our industrial data center, which provides plant-wide computing that powers both our energy management solution and our batch performance analytics solution so that they're going to have direct visibility into the energy consumed by each batch as well as the quality level. So these batches are also going to be AI-driven motion-tracking document workflow throughout the entire facility, working seamlessly. In addition, predictive maintenance through Guardian AI is embedded directly into the line. So these new ways of win -- the new ways to win with Secure Digital Operations expands our traditional automation scope in these types of greenfield facilities while reducing risk and the time line for the end customer.
One of the things that we've talked about before is the importance of making these digital capabilities an intrinsic part of the project time lines. If you go through and you try to do just the basics and then decide at the end that you want to insert some of these capabilities you've just talked about, it really is -- it's more trouble.
And it's all about investing some of the time upfront to go fast at the end. And that generates so much more productivity on the back end through the life cycle of the asset.
I'm going to share another example in our partner-friendly approach that benefits both the customer and the broader Rockwell ecosystem, reducing that time to market, decreasing risk in the project time line, strengthening the resilience overall. While -- at the same time, we're deploying the latest technologies that Matheus mentioned earlier today. This example is a major greenfield for Irving Consumer Products. They're adding a new tissue production line and a fully automated warehouse, supporting their production of household paper products for top American retailers. This project involves a large global OEM papermaking machine as well as converting lines with several different OEMs. It's a great example of how we deliver traditional automation in conjunction with new ways to win.
We engage really deeply with the EPC upfront as well as the OEM to deliver a robust power package that's at the heart of production. We probably invited all of the details associated with the coordinated drive system, the motor control centers that bring that machine to life while our consortium partners, part of our broader ecosystem, supply the switchgear, the motors that complement our portfolio. This is going to save time, ensure that tight alignment from the EPC to the OEM as production is coming together.
To further reduce complexity, Rockwell's cyber, networking, compute capabilities are being utilized to securely connect the entire facility. Our ability to simplify that connectivity with a managed service agreement will allow Irving to have a modern digital backbone, connecting their traditional automation and their IT assets from day 1. This allows every asset in the facility to be actively managed.
Listen, our ecosystem is second to none. Our strong partnerships across the value chain from early days with an EPC to an OEM, to local systems integrators, to our consortium partners that round out the portfolio, enable tremendous value by reducing project time lines, reducing risk and really securing that new capacity in North America.
Yes. Matt, thanks so much. Really appreciate a little bit of that deep dive into a couple of these projects.
We're going to switch to the next lever of our top line growth, annual recurring revenue. When I got into this role in 2016, we had about $200 million of ARR. It's now over 10% of our revenue, and it's actually more profitable than the Rockwell average. We continue to expect a point of growth from ARR with Software as a Service and Recurring Services as the major components. Think of Plex, Fiix, FactoryTalk DesignStudio, FactoryTalk Optix, FactoryTalk DataMosaix, Verve for cybersecurity, Kalypso and there's others. But you see that we've built that both organically and inorganically. We expect high single digits profitable growth in fiscal year '26.
With that, we'll move to the final element of our growth algorithm, and that's acquisitions. We took a pause over the last couple of years, and I think it was the right thing to do to focus on bringing all our new capabilities together as a pure play, but also to help expand the margins. And I'm pleased with our progress on both fronts. We're updating our acquisition priorities going forward, starting with industrial AI applications. These are applications for impact in production environments, software and services targets with recurring revenue streams -- profitable recurring revenue streams.
Second is expansion into Europe and Asia, being able to expand our presence and grow our share in those markets. And I should mention that these priorities are not mutually exclusive. The very best of them often combine multiple elements of our priorities. And finally, Product Portfolio expansion. And so to frame this, think of very profitable hardware that has a mature channel in Europe and/or Asia that our North American distributors would love to sell through their best-in-class systems. So that gives you an idea of the kind of targets that we're considering there.
So with that, I'd like to introduce Joel Stenson of UPS. He's the Senior Vice President of Operations Technology and bring Joel to the stage to have some discussion.
Hi Blake.
Joel.
How are you?
I'm doing great. How are you doing?
I'm doing wonderful.
Really appreciate you joining us.
Thanks a lot. Thanks for the invite.
Yes, for sure. Maybe just start, talk a little bit about UPS' mission, kind of some of the priorities right now.
I think the priority that I would share with everybody is our mission is to move the world forward by delivering what matters. And what we're really focusing on and focusing our investment and our resources on is the health care industry. It is small and medium businesses. It is international, which includes that cross-border, transborder movements as well as modernizing our network. That is the priority right now.
And so you mentioned network, and I know you have a very ambitious network of the future project. Maybe talk a little bit about some of what you're trying to accomplish there.
Absolutely. So what we decided we wanted to do is we wanted to take a clean sheet look at our entire network. That network was built over the last 118 years, if my math is right. And what we said is when a building came to exist, it came to exist because that is where the center population was in that particular area. And then as population grew and the suburbs grew, buildings follow that population growth. And now if you look at that 118 years later, you kind of ask yourself 3 questions is, if we had to do this all over again, will we still have the same number of buildings? Would those buildings be in the same locations and would they have the same technology?
And the answer to all 3 of those questions was no. It is we would have buildings that have volume more concentrated because that concentrated volume allows us to have the ROI required to be able to automate. So now we would have a faster network. We would have safer facilities, and we would have more precision in how we move packages.
Yes. So you mentioned automation, of course, the magic word. And so maybe talk for a little bit about how Rockwell is playing a role in those objectives.
Yes. I think what we did here is when we came into what we call InnoWave, network of the future, is we knew that we needed a partner in a different way from what we have in the past is we've been partners with Rockwell for a very long time. When I first joined the organization 31 years ago, I was introduced to PLC to the PLC-5. One of my first programming was done on a SLC500. So we've been together for a very long time, but it was really transactional. It was -- we put out an RFP, we competitively bid, we award a contract, we execute a project and we move on.
And what we knew is going into this, where we were going to have to drive automation to 400 facilities, it was going to result in us closing 200 facilities. And we had to do that all within a certain period. And when you have to do -- when you have to run a multibillion-dollar project, you don't need a vendor. You need a partner. So that is where that relationship with Rockwell really deepened for us, for us to come together and say, we need somebody that we can depend on to partner with us to roll this program out in a way that Rockwell really stood out compared to the rest of the competition.
Yes. If we're honest, at the beginning of the discussion, because we had not worked together as closely in the past. I think one of the things we had to demonstrate to you was that Rockwell understood the sense of urgency. It wasn't just having the right technology, but it was also the urgency and the agility to work with you on what was -- what is a big complex multiyear project.
Yes. And I will say a lot of companies want to work with very large organizations. I'm sure you see the same thing, but what they don't always realize is scale. And one of your other speakers talked about a little earlier today, is that scale for what we need to have done requires a resiliency. It requires a reliability. It requires the ability to manufacture. So you and I toured some of your manufacturing facilities as we were really kicking off this program to ensure that Rockwell had the manufacturing capacity, the warehousing capacity, the technical skills to be able to partner with us to make this a reality.
Yes. And some of that scale requires ongoing work with standardization because you've got technology and installed base and varying levels of expertise that have built up over decades. And so to be able to move at the speed you and your customers need, that standardization, I think, is important.
Yes. And I would say when we look at the -- it's also product. So a standardization, we had to be able to standardize. And that is really what made us make this decision is we wanted to do what we had never done before. We wanted to single source this program. And that is what we decided to do partnering with Rockwell on this program, and it's because we needed standardization.
To move with speed, we were going to need to have solutions that were as repeatable as possible within a network of facilities that have an age range that varies greatly. So we were going to need an infrastructure that was repeatable. And Rockwell brought that infrastructure and the devices, the details matter.
So when we start to talk about what can we do with Emulate 3D. We were working with Emulate 3D to enable us to be able to speed up the commissioning process. And how do -- what does Armor Flex allow us to do. So when we think about the Armor Flex VFDs, that allows us to speed up the installation because we have to have a VFD inside of a panel and conduit run to that VFD, that slows everything down. So as we partnered with Rockwell across the different platforms: Logix, Emulate 3D, Armor Flex, those things all unlocked a value chain that made it very unique.
Yes. With all that automation that's being installed, there's a little bit of data that's being created. Maybe talk about how much data and where it's going to be useful to you.
Absolutely. So we have about 70 petabytes of data within UPS. And just to kind of give you an understanding of what that means is the library of congresses, digital storage is about 1/3 of that. So the data that we have is immense. So being able to partner with somebody that can help us leverage AI to get insights from that data. And what we're doing now is really trying to push the envelope there to get to that predictive prescriptive model of how can we support our facilities and our systems to understand better how can we balance spare parts around the network because of the new predictability that we will have on what we need where versus simply overspending on spare parts that can collect dust in a facility if you never need to use them.
Yes. It sounds like there's plenty of things to work on today and tomorrow.
Absolutely.
And the next year. So look, Joel, very much appreciate the partnership, and thanks for sharing some of the journey with us as well.
Thank you, Blake.
Yes, thank you, Joe.
Alight, have a good day.
All right. So with that, we're going to wrap the top line growth segment, and I'm going to invite Christian in a minute up on stage. When we talk about the importance of impactful new perspectives, there's probably no better example than what Christian has brought to Rockwell. Our collaboration between he and I started in early 2024 on a weekend chat and then followed by kind of a clandestine visit to Twinsburg because he wanted to see our operations. And I think we're all pretty happy with the results of his first full year at Rockwell. So with that, I'll invite Christian to the stage to talk a little bit about expanding our margins.
Good morning, Blake. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you very much for the kind words. That was outstanding.
This is an exciting time to be at Rockwell, and I'm thrilled to be here. My first 15 months were a ton easier just because of the partnership, the partnership with Blake, the rest of the leadership team with our employees around the world. I'm here to talk about margin expansion, the next pillar in our Rockwell operating model. You heard about the accelerated top line growth and margin expansion certainly is a lot easier when you're getting growth on the top line. At the same time, not all of our actions are going to require top line growth in order to expand our margins.
In fact, in fiscal '24, we grew 1% on the top line, yet we were able to expand margins by 110 basis points. A couple of weeks ago on our Q4 earnings call, we talked about our guide for fiscal '26, mid-single-digit top line growth, another 100 basis points in margin expansion. We want to go into a little bit more detail here over the next few visuals to talk about what are the actions that we're taking in order to execute and expand those margins.
The first part is price discipline. Blake talked about this earlier this morning. In fiscal '25, as an organization, we hit a new level of performance on price discipline. We had 3 points of total price realization for the year that consisted of 2 points of underlying price, which is the equivalent of 4 points of price realization on the product side of our business. And you add to that 60 basis points of tariff-based price realization. That tariff-based price realization was put in place in order to offset our tariff costs so that we could have a neutralized effect on the EPS line.
As we look at fiscal '26, included in our guide is 2 points of price realization, 1 point from underlying price, which again equates to about 2 points related to our products and then another point of tariff-based price. When you combine this with our other initiatives, these are key drivers to margin expansion. It also creates great optionality for us as an organization. It gives us the opportunity to have strategic pricing when we need to do it for key wins, but it also allows us to reinvest in our business. We're going to talk about reinvestment here in a moment.
Another key activity that we're doing to expand margins is structural cost reduction. This visual is very familiar to our investors. We first initiated this about 18 months ago, and we had a very large target that was in place, $350 million of structural cost savings over an 18-month window. We actually hit that $350 million cost savings number in 15 months, not 18 months.
In our fourth quarter, which created that 18-month window, we added another $75 million of cost savings. We achieved $435 million of structural cost savings over an 18-month time frame. That's outstanding. Again, structural cost savings, huge help for us in fiscal '25, but it also positions us really well as we're thinking about transitioning and as we are transitioning that program from an event, a moment, to a way of life. We're going to talk about that more in a moment.
We're going to take that momentum. We're going to continue to take that disciplined execution that we built on, and it's going to lead to even greater margin expansion as we reinvest in the business. Capital deployment is another portion of that.
Our long-term capital deployment framework remains intact with one update. Capital expenditures previously, we would have talked about as 2% to 2.5% of our sales. We're now changing that. We've updated it for at least the short to medium term that it's going to be at 2.5% to 4% of sales. On the low end of that range, that 2.5%, that is a heightened level of investment in our equipment and our digital infrastructure. The high end of that range, the 4% is when we're making larger investments in brick-and-mortar. Our guide for fiscal '26 is 3% of sales.
Continuing down this slide and talking about the capital framework, we remain committed to 100% free cash flow conversion. Blake just gave an update on our priorities around acquisitions. We continue to be committed to doing acquisitions over the long term. But we're only talking about 1% growth on the top line in our growth algorithm. So we're not talking about a huge amount of use of capital for acquisitions, which will allow us to continue to have a really strong balance sheet, hold on to that A rating and allow us to return value to shareholders. We just announced a 5% increase in our dividend that's effective in December, and our guide for fiscal '26 is $0.5 billion in share buybacks. So we are continuing to return value to our shareholders.
We're also committed to continuing to reinvest in ourselves through innovation spending. In the fourth quarter, we gave a new metric to folks. It is our new engineering and development line item. It's in our statement of operations. Historically, if you recall, we always talked about research and development. Research and development for Rockwell has typically been around 6% of sales. That was always in our cost of goods sold. That underrepresented the innovation spending that we had as an organization. Our innovation spending actually has always been around 8% of sales. You take the R&D at 6%. You add to a continuation engineering spending that's always been around 2%. So 8% is the number you should be thinking about.
We've removed that from the cost of goods sold line item. We've created this new line item in operating expenses, engineering and development. That gives our investors better visibility into what we're reinvesting in the business for innovation, while at the same time, is giving us a lot better comparability with our industrial peers on our gross profit. So really, really good simplification move.
That 8% number, we're very comfortable with it. Walk the floor at the Automation Fair. You saw this yesterday when you were out there touring. There is a lot of innovation happening at Rockwell. That 8% is fueling that fire. We'll continue to spend that. I'm excited about -- and you heard about it earlier today with my colleagues.
When we talk about it from a segment perspective. Software and Control, high teens investment in engineering and development; Intelligent Devices, high single digits investment in engineering and development. Finance person, I want to make sure that you all know we are committed that, that investment dollars -- of those investment dollars, we are going to get an ROI on those, and we continue to measure that.
And this actually goes hand-in-hand with long-term margin expansion. We've had these targets in place for the last couple of years. 23.5% is our composite number for the corporation that we're targeting. In fiscal '25, our segment operating margins were 20.4%, and we expanded 100 basis points in fiscal '25 -- 110 basis points. In fiscal '26, our guide is at 21.5%. So we've got a couple of hundred basis points left to go from where we are today or where we're expecting to be in fiscal '26 to where we're targeting for our medium-term range, that 23.5%.
From a segment perspective, Lifecycle Services has checked the box. They're in their corridor on segment margins. They were last year and -- sorry, they were in '24, they were in '25 as well. Software & Control is getting closer. Historically, this business has performed within this corridor. In the last few quarters, they've gotten close to being within that corridor. We haven't put together 12 quarters yet. So we haven't checked the box, but we're getting closer.
Intelligent Devices has a little farther to go. In our guide this year, we're talking about 150 to 200 basis points of margin expansion. That would take Intelligent Devices to the high teens, potentially even 20%. So we're getting closer there, but we have some more work to do. Importantly, that 23.5%, that is not a ceiling for us. We're doing things today to focus on not just getting to 23.5%, but getting through 23.5% in order to hit that higher level of performance that I think all of our investors are looking for and a long-term runway to continue to expand margins.
In order to do that, we have to reinvest. But we also have to add more tools to the toolkit. We have to give our organization more data points and understand what exactly the running rules are going to be going forward. We've added a couple of them or at least I want to highlight a couple of the many tools that we've added here today.
The first one is the Cost To Produce. Last year, when we first introduced the Rockwell operating model, we were talking about margin expansion. One of the items that we highlighted was that we needed to have precision in product and project costing. The tool that we've added for this is a Cost To Produce metric. That Cost to Produce metric is a very holistic. Think of it as standard costing, accounting standard costing plus plus. We want to give complete visibility to all the cost of production for our manufacturing operations, give them a really good understanding of the levers to pull, how they're going to be tracked and give them the opportunity to develop plans to be able to hit their cost metrics for many years to come. So they have the ability to plan for that, which is outstanding.
That has been rolled out in our manufacturing operations. We're going to continue to refine that. We're going to continue to push that farther and farther down, so it gets all the way down to line level leaders so they can see what the Cost To Produce is for their line.
The next part is a new ROI model. ROI models are not unique to Rockwell. They're not new to Rockwell. But as I came into the organization and evaluated the way we were looking at our investments, investment decisions weren't wrong or bad. They were being made using different models throughout the organization. That created an opportunity for us to harmonize. And as we transition from an asset-light organization to one with a little bit more intensity on our investment level, it allows us to transition away from a very payback focus to one that's more ROI focused.
So historically, Intelligent Devices R&D would use their own investment model. CapEx spending out of the integrated supply chain had an investment model. The acquisition model was different. We actually have One model now. That One model allows us to look at all of our investment opportunities under the same set of metrics, and we can prioritize and come to determinations around where we're best spending our money. And it also allows us to continue to drive greater accountability for the organization because what's built into the model are real accountability metrics.
We're taking that model, and that model is important because we are investing at a higher level. We need that discipline. We need that system in place because at the end of Q3 in our earnings call, we talked about a higher level of investment with $2 billion that we're going to be spending over the next 5 years. Blake, do you want to give us some more information around that?
We talked about the investments being primarily centered around plants, talent and digital infrastructure. We expect the outcomes of those investments really are to add efficiency and resiliency and profitability, which take us well beyond those medium-range margin targets. Think technology added to existing plants to drive efficiency, new capacity and agility to take share and AI-first business systems to increase customer service, which will translate to share as well as visibility. The $2 billion includes a little bit more than 80% of CapEx and less than 20% of OpEx, much of which is already in the run rate.
And so with the next section, I think it's appropriate that we talk about operational excellence, and we'll focus on the plant and the operations side of this investment. We've made significant progress in making our operations more resilient and agile through COVID, supply chain challenges. And these investments that were started during those times are serving us well in the current environment. Who knew that adding capabilities to build our high-value products in multiple plants to add to resiliency would help us minimize the impacts from tariffs, but they are, and they'll give us additional flexibility going forward.
To do this, I've been very happy with the teaming between various groups in the organizations, between our integrated supply chain organization, the business units and finance. And it really took everybody working together to drive that culture of operational excellence as well as continuous improvement. And I'd like to ask our Chief Supply Chain Officer, Bob Buttermore, to join the conversation. Bob's experience around the world in commercial and product-specific roles before this role has really accelerated that teaming to be able to bring together the various organizations and the people to move faster.
So let's hear Bob and Christian talk about how in our own organizations, we're advancing the future of industrial operations. Bob?
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[Audio Gap] sourcing, reengineering the network, autonomous operations. But before we move off of this slide, let's hit on a couple of other examples. So under logistics, last year, in fiscal '25, we generated millions of annualized savings from the air to ocean mode shift, which is fantastic, great work. So Bob, when we think about as we go forward, is there more room to run on the mode shift?
There is. We do have more room to run. We converted about 10 lanes last year, but we're converting more lanes now from air to ocean, and we've got a disciplined process to just continue to do this over time. Additionally, we're implementing a TMS, a transportation management system. That will allow us to have real-time trade-offs for transportation, that will enhance our ability to really extract more productivity in the logistics space from consolidation, from more mode optimization, reducing the amount of expedites and optimizing our lanes.
And TMS is another tool that we've added to the toolkit, which is fantastic. Let's stay in that logistics column and talk about in region for region. Resiliency is outstanding. The duplication, it has real cost to it. It can be suboptimal for overall spending. So can we talk a little bit more about how we're balancing that resiliency need while also working to expand margins.
As you said, we've started building this redundancy, building the same product in multiple regions to help us recover from the crisis. And then we continue to do this to help us mitigate the tariff costs that we've experienced over this year. As we continue to expand this in-region for-region strategy, this will enable further productivity in transportation costs, it will actually reduce our lead times, and it will reduce our carbon footprint. One of the impacts that I'm most excited about is that this will actually help us improve customer experience over time also.
Christian, I want to talk about one of your favorite subjects, and that's in-sourcing and vertical integration.
Absolutely. And I brought props.
All right.
Here we go. In-sourcing is a favorite subject of mine. And again, to reiterate, Rockwell has historically been an asset-light organization. That creates complications when you think about new product development and when you're taking those products to market, when the manufacturing organization gets those products and they have to take them and build them up to scale from a production perspective, if the capital equipment and the resources are limited, then the only option you have is to go on the outside.
So what I have in my hand is the 100C, which is a motor contactor. A lot of you have probably been to our Milwaukee headquarters. You've been on the eighth floor. You've seen our contactor production line. It's a highly automated line. And if you look at it, you probably think to yourself, wow, Rockwell has taken a ton of the manufacturing cost out of that process. It'd be hard to think of other ways we can take the cost out. But the integrated supply chain team has done an outstanding job of looking at -- continuing to look at ways where we can take costs out. So the 100C is a really good example. This product on the outside, we've been making the housing. So this plastic housing consists of 5 parts that make up the 100C.
My favorite part is this one. I probably can't even see it. So this part is an injection molded plastic part. We were doing it on the outside. It cost us $0.04 a copy. We're now making it inside out of our Ladysmith, Wisconsin facility, and we're doing it for $0.03 a copy, $0.01 -- we're saving $0.01. But you multiply that times the volume that we have in fiscal '26, this one part is going to save us $30,000. All told, the 5 parts that make up the housing for the 100C product line, this is going to save us nearly $1 million in fiscal '26. So really good job taking costs out of something that already felt like and looked like it was optimized.
And of course, this actually has a 50% ROI on the activity that we've had. We took out 40% of cost that we were spending on the outside. I'm going to approve these kind of projects all day long, Bob.
Another great example is implementing ROK on ROK technology in Twinsburg on a previously manual line. So using an ecosystem OEM partner of ours, we automated the ControlLogix manufacturing final assembly cell. We have ControlLogix controllers, manufacturing ControlLogix controllers with our integrated robotics, our visualization, our industrial control safety and sensing products also.
Good return on investment here, 50% improvement in labor efficiency, 49% reduction in process time, translating into lower Cost to Produce and increased capacity for growth. The next step is to move to autonomy with AMRs bringing material to the line and the way from the line to shipping.
And I love this project, too. So it's a low-risk investment, ROK on ROK technology. We're using a known process. And we're also working with a partner that has been a customer of ours for years. Now they're a supplier of ours. It's great to be able to work with them on that, again, takes that risk -- that risk level down a lot. And at a 20% ROI, really excited about doing those kind of projects all day long, too. But Bob, you gave a lot of numbers there, and I liked every one of them. But one of the numbers that you didn't talk about was footprint reduction. So why didn't we talk about using less square footage in Twinsburg with this project?
Yes. If you recall, the first pillar that we showed on advancing the Factory of the Future slide talked about optimizing end-to-end processes or optimizing existing processes. We optimized the Twinsburg footprint on a previous continuous improvement project. So we already got the footprint savings prior to this project. Let's talk about a larger investment in reengineering the network.
Yes. I'm excited to be the one up here on stage talking about this one. So yesterday, at Automation Fair, you saw the press release as well, we announced a brand-new brick-and-mortar investment, a greenfield facility for Rockwell that's going to be located in Southeastern Wisconsin. We're starting with a bare piece of ground, more than 100 acres. It's going to be a purpose-built facility for Rockwell, and it's going to meet multiple objectives.
First, the facility will be designed and programmed in the Omniverse. We're going to use ROK on ROK technology in order to optimize that facility. And we're going to make sure we have the highest quality and highest efficiency, and we're going to do it before we ever actually put a shovel in the ground.
Second, it's going to be a showcase for our customers. I was talking to some of our sales folks yesterday. They're really excited about taking customers, their customers to this site and showing them the factory of the future and the way Rockwell envisions it. Third, we're going to be able to optimize our overall Cost to Produce, driving costs out while also building in quality. And fourth, we're going to show that all of this is possible to do it in a U.S. manufacturing location.
There's an added benefit for us, too, which is it's a bonus for our employees. We are going to have 3 significant primary locations that are all within a half hour of each other, our Milwaukee headquarters; our Mequon, Wisconsin facility; and this new facility in Southeastern Wisconsin. That allows great sharing of best practices between all of our employees at those locations. It allows a really good career path for those people, and they can do it without ever actually moving or relocating. And by the way, it's got an ROI. Low double-digit ROI on this project, which is -- again, when you talk about brick-and-mortar, a low double-digit ROI is something that I'm pretty excited about.
Bob, I think what you're probably most excited about, though, outside of all those because those are all great, but bringing truly autonomous operations to our headquarters market is pretty exciting. But we've done it elsewhere. So why don't we talk a little bit about the Singapore story.
Picture of Singapore. For those of you that have been there, what do you remember? A lot of office buildings. Our manufacturing facility is on the fourth and fifth floor of an office building, not our traditional manufacturing setup. Singapore was already a world-class facility before we went and did this. If you look at externally published metrics for quality for OEE and scrap, Singapore was already in a world-class position. Also, the plant was already highly automated and highly efficient.
The bottom of this visual is outstanding, 33% increase in labor efficiency. And for our factory staff, a 60% improvement in time to competency, which means a brand-new employee in the training process, they're actually able to be productive 60% faster. All of that while improving quality and reducing our Cost to Produce. And that's being done in a high-cost market with an ROI north of 20% and a payback of less than 3 years, it's pretty compelling. So Bob, what were some of the big takeaways for us on that?
The journey from automation to autonomy in Singapore has been accelerated by Software Defined Automation, Integrated Robotics and Production Logistics and Software and AI. And I'll give you a couple of examples of that. We moved to a digital design process with a digital twin using our Emulate 3D to lay out the facility and the workflow. This saved us considerable time, and we found issues with our original design by working in this digital design environment. Additionally, we automated material movement from inbound to outbound, lights out warehouse, and we automated with AMRs, all our material movement inside of the manufacturing environment.
Great examples, Bob. On that last one, where do the savings come from with all this automated material movement?
Yes. For all manufacturers and us, indirect labor is a significant portion of our labor costs in our plants. Think of it as maybe 30% for us. We were able to really put this solution in place, and it significantly improves our indirect labor efficiency.
Great. It's a really good start on creating a showcase of the Factory of the Future and the benefits we can achieve in a facility that was already highly automated. The end result is margin expansion while also enabling capacity to grow. Just as importantly is what a great showcase that location is in Asia Pacific for our customers and how to create the Factory of the Future. But this is a pilot use case for us. We can call it pilot use case #1. But how do we take that pilot and how do we scale it?
Pilot and scale, pilot and scale resonates with everything Christian and I have discussed today. Twinsburg is a great example of pilot and scale for us. Twinsburg is similar to Singapore, but it has higher complexity and higher mix. The reason we picked Twinsburg next is it is one of our highest revenue plants.
Yes, it's a really good point. Singapore is, in the Rockwell world, is a high-volume, low-mix facility. Twinsburg is a lot more complex. So what's different in Twinsburg, Bob? And how are we going to go farther than what we did in Singapore?
We're integrating everything that we did in Singapore in Twinsburg. But let me talk about a couple of examples of how we're expanding when we did in our Singapore Factory of the Future. We're building a digital twin model with agentic AI agents that will not only help in the design phase, but it will live real time in our control room to allow us to continually optimize and debottleneck the line when we're in an operate and maintain portion of the facility. We're also implementing advanced AMR capabilities with articulated arm robot attachments on top of the auto AMR and our auto fleet management software integrated with our FactoryTalk Production Center, MES.
So really good examples of how we're going to expand that vision. So I know the answer to this. Our investors probably know the answer to this, but I just want to underscore it because this is going to happen a lot as we take customers to these new showcases. What's the first question that we get when you bring a customer through and you show them this Factory of the Future, you show them ROK on ROK technology. What are they asking you first?
It never fails. The first question from a customer is, what is the return on investment for implementing this technology? So we relentlessly talk about ROK on ROK with an ROI. ROK on ROK is cool, it's fun, but it has to have an ROI.
And I don't think you're ashamed at all to stand up in front of a customer and talk about a 20% ROI. That's for sure.
In conclusion, Christian and I have shown how we've begun a journey in operationalizing our operating model that will drive a continuous stream of margin expansion. That will make us more profitable, more resilient and more competitive. Our organization is ready and energized to drive us to becoming the showcase for building factories of the future and helping our customers do the same.
With that, let's have Blake come back up and join us.
Great. Thanks, guys. I hope that you're getting a sense of purpose and urgency that's really permeating the organization as we work together to bring these things to life. For kind of the final way to bring this together, as with us, so with our customers, bringing these capabilities together to drive greater efficiency as they grow.
Ferrero is a good customer of ours. They're making U.S. investments such as the recent acquisition of Kellogg, but they're also using Rockwell products around the world. And now we'll hear from Giuseppe Del Duca, who's the Head of Ferrero Engineering about their goals and our partnership.
Dear Blake, Dear Rockwell team, I'm truly sorry I couldn't be with you in person today. I want to sincerely thank you for your kind invitation and for the opportunity to share this short video message. It's always a pleasure to connect with you. As you know, Ferrero continues to grow year after year, both organically and through strategic acquisitions with a particular focus on the U.S. and North American market.
As the CEO of Ferrero Technical Services and Head of Engineering for the Ferrero Group, I feel deeply grateful to have a partner like Rockwell supporting us through this exciting and challenging journey. Over the past few years, our partnership has strengthened significantly, overcoming major global challenges such as the shortage of electronic components after COVID-19. In many ways, these difficulties have brought us closer together. Throughout it all, we have remained ambitious and committed to our plans, confident in the support and dedication of our partners.
Over the past 2 years, the entire Ferrero organization started with our CEO with procurement playing a key role, has had the pleasure of working closely with you to strengthen our partnership and jointly shape our business plan across key areas such as Cybersecurity, Lifecycle Services, Robotics, AMR innovation and overall modernization. This journey has been guided by mutual clarity, transparency and a shared commitment to excellence, values that continue to drive our success. Looking ahead, we know more challenges await from geopolitical tensions to evolving regulations, but I'm confident that together, we'll continue to navigate them with resilience and innovation.
In closing, I'd like once again to thank the entire Rockwell team from Blake and Bob Buttermore to the global account team for your continued support, expertise and really collaborative spirit. The road ahead is full of challenges, but I'm confident that together, we will keep building strong and innovative solutions to support Ferrero's global growth. So thank you again for this opportunity and for being such an important part of our journey.
Yes. I think it's -- there's no more eloquent way to put on display the way that we're bringing all of this together to add value to customers than to hearing one themselves who has choices around the world who's picked us and how we're helping them.
To bring together a few of the things that I'd like to leave you with. We have returned to top line growth, and we're putting that together with expanding margins to create what I think is a more complete, very attractive result. We remain laser-focused on execution as we make these investments for the future with purpose and urgency. And in the end, there is nobody who's better positioned than Rockwell. So I thank you for your attention.
And with that, we'll bring the rest of the presenters on stage to answer some of your questions.
2. Question Answer
Andrew Kaplowitz from Citi. So Christian, you came from an 80/20 background. And today, you and Bob talked about operationalizing margin expansion. So why not just formalize the program as some sort of new enterprise strategy? One of your industrial peers does that. Is it too early to do that? And if you don't want to do that, where are the biggest savings going to come from over the next couple of years, whether it's procurement or manufacturing footprint or this Cost to Produce you talked about?
So it definitely is becoming part of our normal organizational fabric. The difference around how we believe we want to do it is we don't necessarily -- if we put an annual target out there and we continue to treat it like it's an event, it's going to feel to the organization. It's going to feel probably to our investors like we are in a perpetual cycle around events as opposed to institutionalizing it, driving that operational excellence into the organization to the deepest levels and then continue to do that as part of our core, just part of what we do every day.
Yes. We -- I mentioned to a couple of you, we added a company-wide coordinator within Bob's organization to work with all the businesses and the functional areas, just as Christian said, to be able to make this an absolutely intrinsic part of what we do every day. And in fact, it has its own quadrant in the Rockwell operating model, but you see elements of that in all of these pieces. And so I want it to be an everyday part of what we're doing.
And one of the things that I think is compelling to the organization, they say, well, this cost savings is great, but is it in opposition to top line growth. And I had a general manager years ago who said, "No, cost savings are actually a revenue-getting opportunity because they give you the flexibility to be able to go out and when you have to get aggressive on pricing, then you can do that." But that mind shift, I think, is helpful, and that's exactly what we're going for is for people to understand what their role is as well as the why we're doing those things.
And then, Blake, I think you said new capacity orders expected to grow strong double digits in '26. So maybe give us more color on how much of that statement is just cyclical commentary versus the unlocking of what Matt and Matheus talked about in terms of delivering full autonomous solutions and/or comprehensive digital packaging?
Yes. So the projects that we're tracking represent, I would say, new capacity with a U.S. component of it. And as I mentioned, it's around the world. There's a great mix on those projects. And of course, Matt talked a little bit about Electrolit and Irving as examples where there's a certain amount of traditional capabilities, it's Logix, it's big drives, it's motor control centers, support, but it's also these other things. It's simulating the operation of these plants. It's going in and adding more software than we ever would have been able to before with a certain element of annual recurring revenue.
So it shows up in all parts of the organization. It's probably weighted a little more heavily towards the configure-to-order portions of Tessa's business as well as Lifecycle Services in Matt's, but there's plenty of Logix processors that are going out there as well, either as part of those systems or going to engineering firms where they're doing the final integration. We're not breaking out the growth contribution from those projects versus other flow business, but we are seeing the percentage of business that's due to that is a little bit higher in that respect.
Importantly, as we talked about on the earnings call, we're not counting on some big inflection up. We're seeing some of it. It's going through a fairly high level of scrutiny within our customers. But as things come in, we're ready for it, and we do expect that more and more of these projects are going to go through because there is pent-up demand. Now we've got a few questions.
Julian Mitchell at Barclays. Maybe, Blake, just following up on the top line discussion. You talked about the kind of CapEx trajectory. Maybe home in, in a bit more detail what you're seeing in the Logix platform on demand? And secondly, on the top line, you had that very interesting scatter chart showing market share versus market CAGR. Maybe help us understand some of the higher growth markets where your share is lower, what you're doing to push?
Yes. So I'll start, and then I'm going to ask Matheus to talk some -- about the specific Logix profile, what we're seeing -- with respect to what we're seeing there. That chart was something we developed to portray our end markets and where we are, where to play, how to win kind of things. And obviously, some of those verticals have waxed and waned a little bit over the last 10 years. But in areas like data center, big potential market, of course, we don't serve all aspects of electrification and automation in data center, but we see really good progression of profitable business there, as I mentioned, through the acquisition that's in Tessa's shop now, power distribution for data centers, a really good solution there.
And then the replacement of direct digital control in the control space for the building management systems with Logix, and we're seeing that there. Some of those customers are also asking us to do the panel build in that respect. And so adding value add because we've talked a lot today about standardization and speed. And in no place is that more important than the Data Center business.
Life Sciences, some of us remember a time when we didn't really talk about pharmaceutical and life sciences, but that's been a gift that's kept giving great growth. It is a strong contributor to the company's growth and profitability and really interesting because most of our business in life sciences is not boxed product. We do sell lots of drives and controllers and so on. But the majority of the business, more than half of it is the services and the software. And as we add to our capabilities there, then it's only fueling that growth.
So that's a couple of examples of that. I don't want to play someone else's game. I don't want to be late to the party. And so we have a certain amount of discipline in terms of not rushing off to try to buy something to jump into a space and finding that we're not going to be able to get the profit that we expect because we're not differentiated or we didn't really understand it. So we're careful about these things. But even within certain of these end markets, I think there's lots of room to run.
And so with that, I'll turn it over to Matheus.
Yes. I think just one point on this. The Data Center business with the building management systems is actually something that's not new to us. We've done quite a bit in semiconductor for decades. So it's been building on that capability and that technology.
Blake, I think we mentioned that throughout fiscal '25, we've touched quarterly averages that were pre-pandemic levels, but we're still below. So there's room to continue to expand on a unit basis. And then the only other point I would make is on Process Control. Logix continues to expand and grow. We've added significant capability around process safety. But really, if you think about Logix in Process, there's many reasons why it's changing the game. I'll give you 3 right now.
For example, a lot of the Process business relies on the understanding of the Process, the domain, the know-how. And we partner better than anybody else because a lot of the delivery of large Process systems from our competitors is done by themselves. So you see a lot of these partners looking at them as competition when they look at us as partners to grow and amplify.
The second is really we come from -- we've been the best in the world in large control system for a very long time, and that's continued to gain even more capabilities. So we come from the cost basis of a large control system that's much more attractive than the traditional heavy DCS type of solution.
And then third, when you take segments like in verticals like life sciences and CPG, we're really one of the only people on earth that can tell you we have a same consistent platform from what we call the wet end of the plant all the way to the dry end of the plant and the packaging and so on. So you combine these 3, and you have a pretty robust set of differentiation that's kind of hard to replicate if you're just pure process player.
That's great. Just one quick follow-up. The financial goals, some of them, I think, the segment margin and the segment operating leverage and the ROIC. I'm not sure maybe I missed them in this one, but you had the sort of 35% and the over 20%. Are they sort of still around any sort of fleshing out of those?
Yes. No changes around those objectives. So still ROIC remains a key metric for us. The incremental margins at 35% kind of through cycle on the average. As you all know or as many of you know, we did guide to a little bit higher than that when we talk about fiscal '26 at a 40% clip. But generally, we're still in that same ballpark. And so yes, the rest of the objectives are still in place.
Jeff Sprague at Vertical. I wanted to dig a little bit further into the vertical integration opportunity, actually, no pun intended. Can you give us a sense of maybe what percent of your COGS would be sort of value-added sourcing of some sort that would then be a candidate for evaluation for vertical integration? And is the example that you gave us roughly kind of a 25% savings on that particular part. Is that sort of a decent rule of thumb on what the opportunity is?
Yes. Maybe I'll talk a little bit about the detail. And Bob, if you want to jump in with some more around the kind of the broader opportunity. And actually, that one part, yes, that was a 25% savings. It all depends on where it's coming from, though. So from an experience level, plastic injection molding, normally, that's a 30% to 35% savings that you can get. This one happens to be with those 5 components all in. We're getting about a 40% savings. So that is a really good area of opportunity for us.
When we're talking about other things that are done on the outside, there are many of them that are in the 20s, some that are even in the 40s. So it all depends on what those opportunities are. And honestly, there are some that are 10% to 15%. Those are ones that we eliminate pretty quickly saying, "Look, we got other opportunities. Let's go get those first," before we go after something that is that narrow of a margin opportunity, especially when you think about it from the perspective. Again, we have better opportunities. And on top of that, we have the risk that comes with having to do a lot of those things in-house for that kind of yield, that's not quite there.
So Bob, on the overall opportunity that we have as an organization and what we're spending on the outside with parties that we have the opportunity to bring in, I don't think we've ever actually sized that number. But do you -- I think what we've talked about a lot is that every facility, we've had the factory managers in, we've talked to all of them. Every facility sees really good opportunities to be able to bring those in. And that all depends on what they're doing in that factory, whether it's injection molded parts from housings like we used as an example, but there are harnesses that are being done on the outside. We're also able to do some things around trying to integrate our operations with doing some wire cutting and fitting that happens on site using automation technology.
I would say there's a nice opportunity in our direct spend, and it's kind of a 2-way approach, right? There's a commodity down approach, exactly what Christian was just talking about, where we're saying, "Hey, injection molding, we're saying cable assemblies, we're saying subassemblies, metal fab," things that really align with our capabilities, and we know we can get that return on investment. Then there's the bottoms-up where we really have everyone in our organization focused on where are their in-sourcing opportunities.
So the plants are coming up with ideas because they see it every single day and opportunities all the way through additive manufacturing, where we buy something today on the outside, but we're able to actually do that internally through additive manufacturing. So it's a top-down, bottoms-up approach by commodity and then just what the plant sees. And there's a nice opportunity for us in the direct space as we go forward.
You don't want to give us kind of bigger than a bread box, though. You told us indirect costs are 30% of the total. Why don't we like chop up rest of COGS, if we can?
Yes. So the -- I mean, you're in the right ballpark from that perspective. Again, we're not necessarily -- it's not a -- it's truly a bottoms-up, tops-down approach. We are, for sure, going after the opportunity. We have not sized yet exactly what we're going after.
Some of this started back in '24 when we embarked on a cost savings program looking at direct material. To be able to effectively negotiate with your existing suppliers, you have to create a credible threat to their longevity in your supply base. And that's whether you're looking at an alternate supplier, you have to do a certain amount of engineering and feasibility work or looking at in-sourcing. And so some of those things, we kind of opened that up. And so we know what it takes to do certain of these things, and I think that's going to serve us well. And that's an evergreen process, right? It really started primarily in the Intelligent Devices segment because Tessa has got such a proliferate -- so many SKUs in that organization. It's a pretty target-rich environment.
Just a quick one. The Cost to Produce metric. Were you able to do any kind of look back on that? Is that a source of historical spillage and margins and returns and the like and there's a real kind of measurable improvement that you expect to get just looking at sort of a before and after sort of approach?
We haven't done a full deep dive into the past history around it. We really are taking this as a fresh start and a movement forward. We're more focused on the organization trying to take that tool and develop their own plans on how to continue to improve it. Obviously, we have a lot of the key data points in the standard costing system that allows us to see a lot of that in the history, but we do not have a lot of history around the Cost to Produce.
Chris Snyder, Morgan Stanley. You guys provided a lot of really good ROI metrics on your internal investments. I imagine customers can achieve somewhat similar ROI by employing these solutions. So I guess the question is, when the ROI is in this 20% plus kind of range, why does the customer say no? And then any way to think about the opportunity within just the installed base, like what percent of U.S. factories are using all of the automation solutions that they could?
Yes. I'll make a couple of comments and then -- because Matt is so involved in some of these capacity decisions, ask him for some comments. I got asked the same question when I was talking to the Board about this job. Why in automation and Rockwell growing faster? And it's about the risk. So intellectually, you can look at an ROI that looks very compelling way over your WACC and so on.
But if you lose 2 months of start-up because you didn't take all the factors about interfacing it with existing systems in your plant and you lost some production there, it blew your ROI out of the water. And so that's why I talk so much about simplification so that you can get something that approaches more IT levels of adoption of that technology because when something is running, it's running, you're producing your products at the other end. And so that simplification aids with risk reduction, and that's why they sometimes say no.
Now today, in the environment we're in, people are also a little bit skittish about making investments at the pace that they would like to because they want to make sure that the costs in their business case are still valid and tariffs have certainly thrown some uncertainty into that as well as making sure in areas like the chemical industry, is their demand going to remain intact, fundamental parts of their own equations. So there's a little bit of volatility now. We think that, that will level out, but that's still casting a little bit of a damper on some of those spends.
Yes, I would agree that CapEx is somewhat constrained based upon the cost of capital, the decision-making. I see across greenfields, people are going all in. They're looking at every aspect of how they can automate. A very large CPG company that I'm an executive sponsor for made the decision to move away from AGVs to our AMRs, to really consistently reduce indirect labor, but also given the flexibility. Instead of having laying a track down, it's a fixed asset, they're really thinking about the mobility that they need, the flexibility that they need. And I would also say the people part of the equation, it's a balance between the technology and the people.
And to Blake's point, when there's risk involved, there's a huge opportunity in brownfields across the U.S. There is an aging installed base. There is a dwindling workforce that can support that installed base. So people are really starting to look hard at their asset base, how do they modernize, how do they take advantage of it. Everything that Bob talked about, our customers are talking about. If we could see a little bit more stability in terms of the project cost rates between real estate, the trades, once we get to a little bit more stability there, there's a lot of room to grow.
And then I just want to follow up on the slide that said new capacity orders could grow strong double digits in fiscal '26. So I guess, is that -- in your guys' view, is that just the natural evolution? Right now, we're seeing paybacks and efficiency and then capacity expansion comes after that? Or are your customer conversations indicating that this could happen? And I know this is not all of your orders, but the company has kind of gotten out of forecasting orders. So I just kind of wonder what gave you the confidence to put that in the slide?
Yes. It's very specific projects with bills of material that we're tracking in each of those industries. So I'm happy with the way that, that project tracking has matured. It's in our CRM system. There's worldwide visibility. We have the team that's sole purpose is to coordinate among our various organizations around the world. It's deep, obviously, within sales, but also with a strong collaboration with the individual business. And we showed the CapEx that's being invested with some U.S. content, that's not the full worldwide picture, but we have really good line of sight to what's in there.
And that's why when we talk about these projects, some of them are being delayed, but not canceled, we know that with very granular views. When I made the comment about cost and demand causing some of these projects to be delayed, that's talking directly with the people who are on the pursuit teams with those projects as we review those funnels in those areas.
It's Andrew Buscaglia with BNP Paribas. So Christian, so far, so good under your watch. You've had over a year now to kind of like really dig into the portfolio. You came out with a lot of great details today. I'm wondering, I go back and forth where the bigger margin opportunity is segment-wise? Like software, you got these past acquisitions that are maturing and you catch a cycle here that could be pretty powerful. And you're kind of bumping into those targets, whereas Intelligent Devices maybe have a little more work to do to get towards those goals. In your mind -- I guess, you gave a lot of details, where do a lot of these fall under where you see like a big, maybe more near-term expansion?
So from my side, importantly, we all have opportunity. So the Software and Control business has shown really good leverage as they're getting back to a growth mode. The Intelligent Devices business, as you think about what we've done over the last couple of years from a cost reduction and margin expansion, a lot of the examples that we talked about with areas that we're going to -- as we're operationalizing that program, a lot of that is going to be -- Intelligent Devices is going to be the primary beneficiary of that. From a pricing perspective, we talked about the product side of it, Intelligent Devices, again, is the largest beneficiary of that. But there is not a single segment within Rockwell that doesn't have runway and doesn't have an opportunity for us to continue to expand margins over the long term.
Yes. Maybe Tessa, just a few examples of what's at the top of your list as we continue on that journey.
Yes, I think there's a couple of things for the segment that are going to be important. I think we have good line of sight of what we need to execute, continuing to drive the top line and new products that we're introducing, driving both expansion in existing customers and winning new customers and new logos around the world. We have a number of acquisitions in Intelligent Devices that are growing fast and adding a lot of value to customers, but continuing to grow those, drive operational performance and kind of the integration synergy that we expected from going to be important.
I think we've elevated our IQ around portfolio optimization, pricing. So really pressure testing the range of products and SKUs that we have available and making strategic decisions around what does it make sense to be a part of our portfolio, so eliminating underperforming SKUs or really leveraging price as a strategic lever for us to address either low-performing, low-margin parts of the portfolio.
And then I think lastly and very importantly, we've got a great relationship with our supply chain. Bob has done a great job leading in that organization. We've made a lot of progress over the last 12 to 18 months in terms of the operational efficiency. And what you saw today will have a direct impact. So looking at product cost reductions, looking at efficiency in manufacturing, looking at the indirect cost, logistics and others, will have a positive impact for the segment. So I feel good about the fact that we've executed well over the last 12 to 18 months. We've got good line of sight to the priorities that we have ahead of us.
Yes. So I really appreciate everybody's attention, great questions during Rockwell's Investor Day. That concludes our prepared remarks and the Q&A section. And so thank you all for joining in, both in person and on the webcast. Thank you.
Thank you, guys. We have lunch for you in the back. We'll have a member of our leadership team at each of the tables, and we'll conclude at 1:00 p.m. Thank you.
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Rockwell Automation — Analyst/Investor Day - Rockwell Automation, Inc.
Rockwell Automation — Analyst/Investor Day - Rockwell Automation, Inc.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Strategie: Rockwell betont Autonomie als Investment-These: Software‑Defined Automation (Logix SDA), KI und Robotik als kombinierte Differenzierer für industrielle Kunden.
- Operating Model: Vier Säulen (Kultur, Wachstum, Margen, Operational Excellence) treiben gleichzeitig Umsatzwachstum und Strukturkostenabbau.
- Kunden‑Momentum: Konkrete Referenzen (UPS, Lucid, ThermoFisher, GEA, Ferrero) zeigen Pipeline und Nachfrage für große Greenfield‑Projekte.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Technologie: Logix SDA, FactoryTalk DesignStudio (cloud‑native) und agentische KI sollen Design, Betrieb und MES (Plex, Fiix) autonomer machen.
- Wachstum: Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR, Annual Recurring Revenue) >10% des Umsatzes; Fokus auf Software, Services und Production Logistics (AMR/Flottenmanagement).
- Kapitalallokation: 5‑Jahres‑Plan $2 Mrd. (≈80% CapEx), FY26 CapEx‑Guide ~3% des Umsatzes, $0.5 Mrd. Aktienrückkäufe, Dividende +5%.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Operatives Tooling: Einführung des Cost‑to‑Produce‑Metrics und eines einheitlichen ROI‑Modells zur präziseren Produkt‑/Projektkostensteuerung.
- Reporting: Neuer Posten "Engineering & Development" (≈8% des Umsatzes) für bessere Transparenz von Innovationsausgaben.
- Großprojekte: Neues Greenfield‑Werk in Südost‑Wisconsin (>100 acres) als Showcase; Prioritäten für M&A: industrielle KI, Europa/Asien, portfoliologische Hardware‑Assets.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Margenprogramm: Diskutiert wurde, ob Margin‑Initiativen ein wiederkehrendes Programm werden; Management will Operational Excellence institutionalisiert, nicht als einmaliges Event.
- Auftrags‑Pipeline: Nachfrage für neue Kapazitäten (FY26) mit "strong double‑digit" Wachstumserwartung — Management zeigt detaillierte Projekt‑Visibility, aber Timing bleibt kundenseitig.
- In‑Sourcing: Analysten fragten nach Hebeln zur Kostensenkung (Vertical Integration, Teilefertigung); Beispiele zeigen zweistellige ROI‑Verbesserungen, aber keine firmeneigene Gesamtquantifizierung yet.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Investor Day bestätigt Übergang zu einem stärker software‑ und servicegetriebenen Geschäftsmodell mit klaren Margin‑Hebeln (Preisdisziplin, strukturelle Einsparungen, Cost‑to‑Produce) und ausgewiesenem CapEx‑Plan. Chancen: skalierbare ARR, industrielle KI und große Greenfield‑Pipelines. Risiken: Projekt‑Timing, Tarif‑/Makro‑Volatilität und Integrationsrisiken bei Technologien/Partnerschaften.
Rockwell Automation — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for holding, and welcome to Rockwell Automation's quarterly conference call. I need to remind everyone that today's conference call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Aijana Zellner, Head of Investor Relations and Market Strategy. Ms. Zellner, please go ahead.
Thank you, Julianne. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Christian Rothe, our CFO.
Our results were released earlier this morning and the press losing charts have been posted to our website. Both the press release and charts [ includes and ] our call today will reference non-GAAP measures. Both the press release and charts include reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures.
A webcast of this call will be available on our website for replay for the next 30 days. For your convenience, a transcript of our prepared remarks will also be available on our website at the conclusion of today's call. Before we get started, I need to remind you that our comments will include statements related to the expected future results of our company and are therefore forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties that are described in our earnings release and detailed in all our SEC filings. And with that, I'll hand it over to Blake.
Thanks, Aijana, and good morning, everyone. I'll make a couple of initial comments before we turn to our fourth quarter results. When we introduce guidance for fiscal year 2025 last November amid a mixed set of headwinds and tailwinds for growth, much of the discussion centered on additional detail around the cost reduction and margin expansion actions we initiated in 2024. With the top line guidance range that included limited growth, we knew it would be a challenge to both absorb higher costs and expand margins.
So with the very busy 12 months of fiscal year '25 in the books, I'm proud of the team's execution as we have returned to top line growth and continue to reduce costs. Rockwell is well positioned for sustained market-leading growth and profitability as we build on this success for fiscal '26 and beyond.
We closed the year with another strong quarter of outperformance versus our expectations, including double-digit year-over-year growth in both sales and operating earnings. Our differentiated portfolio price discipline and continued focus on productivity all contributed to this great finish to the year. Free cash flow was also very good in the quarter and for the year. As we will discuss, we're taking further steps to streamline the organization and increase efficiency in the service of customer value and expanded margins.
Uncertainty remains but it's clear that countries around the world are more aware than ever of the strategic importance of investing in advanced manufacturing capabilities and capacity. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the U.S., our home market.
Let's now turn to our fourth quarter results on Slide 3. Both reported and organic Q4 sales were up double digits versus prior year. While we did have favorable comps from a year-over-year standpoint, Q4 sales grew high single digits sequentially, which was better than we expected. Organic year-over-year sales growth of 13% was led by continued strength in our product businesses. Similar to the last 2 quarters, CapEx activity and longer cycle businesses remain muted with customers holding off on larger investments.
On our last earnings call, we flagged the potential for Q4 pull-ins into Q3. Based on our analysis of daily orders and sales trends, inventory levels in our channel and machine builder surveys, pull-in orders were less than expected in Q3 and not evident in Q4. Annual recurring revenue was up 8% in the quarter. While some customers continue to delay discretionary services spending, we did have a number of large software and services wins around the world in Q4.
One notable win was with Stanley Electric, a Japanese Tier 1 automotive supplier, who will deploy our cloud-native Plex platform across 25 global sites. We also secured a key cybersecurity win in life sciences with GSK selecting our Verve platform as their new standard for asset vulnerability management to be deployed across 33 sites over the next 5 years.
In our Intelligent Devices segment, organic sales were up 14% and versus prior year and up low double digits sequentially. Strong sequential growth in the quarter was driven by our power control business, where a combination of our existing business and our Cubic acquisition is helping us win competitive projects around the world. A good example of this was our win with [indiscernible] Systems, a Spanish system integrator, who will be providing a flexible and compact motor control system for Africa's largest desalination plant. I'll share some additional power control wins later on the call.
We also had a good quarter in our Clearpath business with double-digit year-over-year growth in our auto-autonomous mobile robot business. I'm pleased with how this acquisition continues to add new ways to win and expand our customer base. Our AMR business grew double digits in fiscal '25 and we are optimistic about fiscal '26 as we plan for Clearpath to turn profitable in the year.
Software & Control organic sales in the quarter grew 30% year-over-year, led by continued momentum in our Logix business, both versus prior year and sequentially. On the software front, Plex and Fiix continue to add new logos as we augment our existing sales force with new go-to-market partners. One of our Plex software wins in Q4 was with THG, a U.K.-based global e-commerce leader in beauty and nutrition as customer chose our cloud native MES and quality management solution to eliminate manual processes and drive further operational efficiency.
Organic sales in Lifecycle Services were down 4% versus prior year, slightly below our expectations. Book-to-bill and this segment was 0.9%, consistent with our historical Q4 seasonality. We continue to see project delays across both our core business and Sensia, as customers wait for more clarity and stability around the impact of trade and policy on their operations.
Regarding our Sensia joint venture with SLB. Following a strategic review, both paired companies have decided to pursue an orderly dissolution Rockwell will assume 100% ownership of the process automation business that we initially contributed to the joint venture, and SLB will again fully own the parts that they contributed. After the expected close of the transaction in the first half of this year, fiscal '26, Rockwell will realize lower revenue but higher operating margin going forward due to the deconsolidation. Rockwell's resulting sales into the oil and gas vertical will be about 10%, but with a simplified go-to-market motion. That go-to-market approach continues to include SLB as an important partner with deeper relationships [ than ] the 2 companies had 6 years ago.
I want to be clear that Sensia did not meet our long-term expectations. That is why SLB and Rockwell have jointly agreed to make this change. However, the changes we are making demonstrate our continued commitment to the oil and gas market, and we are well positioned to grow in this space. Our portfolio has expanded since the JV was launched with new process IO and process safety capabilities from Logix, an industry-leading portfolio of cloud-native software applications and deeper domain expertise. Importantly, we have taken this step in order to grow in this vertical with improved profitability going forward. Christian will add more detail on the financial impact in the quarter and the benefits going forward later on the call.
Turning back to our fourth quarter. Rockwell's overall segment margin of 22.5% and adjusted EPS of $3.34 were well above our expectations, driven by higher volume and strong productivity. We ended this fiscal year with over $325 million of structural productivity savings, exceeding our original target of $250 million. Similar to last quarter, tariffs did not have a meaningful impact on our results in Q4. Christian will talk more about tariffs and the expected fiscal '26 impact in a few moments.
Moving to Slide 4 to review key highlights of our Q4 industry performance. Sales in [ discrete ] were up 20% year-over-year with strong growth in e-commerce and warehouse automation and good performance in automotive. Automotive sales exceeded our expectations in the quarter, with low double-digit growth versus prior year. The industry continues to shift from an EV focus to a mix of traditional ICE, hybrid and electric vehicle offerings. Rockwell has good technical solutions and expertise for all of these types of vehicles.
E-commerce and warehouse automation delivered another standout quarter with sales growing over 70% year-over-year. This quarter, Rockwell secured a significant European win with another global logistics and parcel handling company. The customer selected our FactoryTalk Optix platform and digital services to digitize and expand operations across 28 sorting facilities. While our data center business is still relatively small, we continue to see strong double-digit growth with multiple wins across the globe. This quarter, Rockwell won a project with Alternative Heat Ltd., to supply modular cooling panels for large data centers in Europe. The rise of AI data centers is driving demand for faster deployment, advanced cooling solutions and secure industrial grade control platforms, our Logix control platform and modular power distribution technology are well positioned to meet these needs. We'll share more about our differentiation and growth in the data center space at our Investor Day later this month.
Turning to our hybrid industries. We saw double-digit growth across food and beverage, home and personal care and life sciences. In food and beverage, our customers are prioritizing productivity and operational efficiency in existing facilities. The industry is going through a period of consolidation restructuring and evolving consumer preferences. While this dynamic might delay some of the larger CapEx investments near term, we continue to build a strong pipeline of new capacity projects both globally and in the U.S.
In the quarter, Electrolit Manufacturing selected Rockwell as a key automation and digital partner for their state-of-the-art beverage blending and bottling facility in Waco, Texas. This is Electorlit's first greenfield in the U.S. Sales growth in our life sciences vertical was also strong in Q4, and exceeded our expectations. We continue to see growth in our software and cybersecurity services across the product life cycle. We're also seeing increased automation adoption in the medical device segment. One of the important wins here this quarter was with [ Howard Miller ], where our Independent Cart Technology is helping accelerate and optimize production of a high-speed auto injector line for the obesity drug market. [ During ] the process, sales in this segment grew 10% with year-over-year growth across all industries.
Similar to last quarter, process customers are focusing on driving efficiency and profitability in their existing facilities as they continue to grapple with weaker demand and low commodity prices. Rockwell's technology is well suited for both greenfield and brownfield investments as demonstrated by several large wins in the quarter in energy, mining and metals. A good example of this was our win with Vale Base Metals, where Arc-resistant power control systems are modernizing their Sudbury mill to significantly enhance safety and operational efficiency. This win positions Rockwell as a key automation partner in one of Canada's most critical mining operations.
Turning to Slide 5 [ on Q4 ] organic regional sales. North America had a strong finish to the year and was once again our best-performing region in the quarter. We expect North America to continue to be our strongest region in fiscal '26. Last quarter, we announced a $2 billion investment over the next 5 years to modernize infrastructure grow talent and enhance digital capabilities. These initiatives are now underway and will unlock future growth and margin expansion with the U.S. as the primary beneficiary. We'll share more in the months ahead.
Let's move to Slide 6 for key highlights of full year fiscal 2025. Our reported and organic sales were up about 1% versus prior year. Total ARR grew 8% with solid performance in our Software as a Service business. We ended the year with segment margin of 20.4% and adjusted EPS of $10.53. The improvement of over 100 basis points in year-over-year segment margin was driven by our cost reduction and margin expansion actions and strong price discipline. Free cash flow conversion of 114% exceeded our expectations for the year. I'm proud of our execution to get back above 100% free cash flow conversion, which remains an important part of our financial framework.
Let's now move to Slide 7 to review our fiscal 2026 outlook. As we look to fiscal '26, we are confident in our ability to gain share and expand margins. We are less certain about the overall macro and geopolitical environment as well as the timing of the CapEx investment recovery in our key verticals. Increased stability and trade policy will help unlock additional capital spending. We expect our reported sales growth for the year to be in the 3% to 7% range. The midpoint of our guide assumes a sequential sales decline in Q1, which is typical followed by gradual sequential improvement in the subsequent quarters. Christian will provide more detail on this and the expected impact from price and tariffs in this section.
Annual recurring revenue is slated to grow high single digits next year. We expect our segment margin to expand by over 100 basis points, and our adjusted EPS is projected to be $11.70 at the midpoint. We expect free cash flow conversion of 100% in fiscal year '26.
Before I turn it over to Christian, I want to reiterate how proud I am of the execution of the team in the quarter and throughout the year. To be sure, there remain plenty of opportunities for continued improvement, and we are taking action to further our progress throughout the coming year and beyond. As we'll discuss in less than 2 weeks at Investor Day, keys to execution includes strengthening a high-performance culture, accelerating top line growth, expanding margin and continuing our progress in operational excellence. And these are the elements of the Rockwell operating model.
And with that, I'll turn it over to Christian.
Thank you, Blake. Good morning, everyone. Before I get into our strong fourth quarter results, I want to spend a few minutes highlighting some of our onetime items unique to Q4, so you understand how they flow through the P&L and where adjustments were made.
At a high level, all these changes are outlined on Slide 8. For additional financial details, please also refer to Slides 21 and 22. First, starting in Q4, we're introducing a new engineering and development expense line in our statement of operations. This aligns with the SEC's expanded segment disclosure rules and enhances visibility into key metrics that inform management decisions. particularly total innovation spend. Engineering and development includes what you typically think of as R&D, which has been about 6% of sales historically. And our sustaining engineering spend, which maintains existing technology and has been about 2% of sales. Reclassifying these costs from cost of sales to operating expenses increases gross margin by about 8 points with no impact to the total P&L. This change was applied consistently across historical periods, as shown in the Q4 earnings slide deck appendix, Page 21.
Importantly, this move improves visibility into Rockwell's total development spend, aligns our reporting with industrial [ intact ] peers and provides a more meaningful view of gross margin performance. Second, we're making a change to how we treat certain costs related to our legacy asbestos exposure, which is unrelated to our ongoing operations. Historically, we expensed the defense cost for these claims as they were incurred. In Q4, we changed our accounting policy to a full horizon accrual for defense costs, consistent with how we account for indemnity. All told, inclusive of the indemnity and the defense cost accrual update, the result was a onetime pretax charge of $136 million or $0.91 per share in the fourth quarter. This is the accrual portion of the changes.
Because these costs are not tied to current operations, we are also updating our definition of adjusted income and adjusted EPS to exclude legacy asbestos and environmental charges. In Q4, this change excluded $141 million in pretax charges or $0.94 per share from adjusted earnings. That includes the $136 million accrual as well as $5 million of normal asbestos and environmental spend we incurred in the fourth quarter. The EPS impact is $0.91 from the accrual and $0.03 from the normal spend, both now excluded.
For full year fiscal 2025, the definition change increased adjusted EPS by $1.03, with $0.91 from the Q4 accrual update and $0.12 from -- excluding legacy asbestos and environmental costs that we incurred for the full year. Without the definition change to adjusted EPS and excluding other onetime items in the quarter, Q4 adjusted earnings would have grown 34% compared to the 32% under the new definition. For the full year, EPS growth was unchanged under the new definition. When compared to our previous guide, the Q4 change, excluding onetimes, was a net benefit of $0.03. For the full year, the net benefit was $0.12.
Moving to the third item on the slide, we recorded an impairment in our Sensia business following the decision to dissolve the JV, which Blake discussed. The net result is a noncash impairment charge of $110 million or $0.97 per share net of tax and the NCI adjustment. For reference, the approximate annualized impact from the planned dissolution will be a $250 million revenue reduction and virtually no impact on operating earnings. The approximate margin benefit to Rockwell on an annualized basis will be an increase of about 50 basis points.
And finally, in Q4, we made a voluntary $70 million contribution to our U.S. pension plan. As Blake mentioned earlier, we delivered 114% and free cash flow conversion for the year, inclusive of that contribution. Excluding the contribution, our conversion was 119%, with free cash flow reaching a record $1.4 billion and reflective of strong operational execution and solid performance across the P&L. All financials reported in our earnings release, conference call presentation and in our 10-K, which will be filed next week, reflect these changes.
Turning to our financial results. Let's go on to Slide 9, fourth quarter key financial information. Fourth quarter reported sales were up 14% versus prior year, exceeding our expectations and closing 2025 on a strong note. About 1 point of growth came from currency. About 4 points of our organic growth came from price with about 1 point of that coming from tariff-based pricing. Price/cost was favorable in the quarter. Company gross margins under our new reporting methodology expanded 290 basis points year-over-year and segment operating margin increased 240 basis points. While tariffs had a neutral impact on EPS, they did cause a slight margin dilution in the quarter. Adjusted EPS of $3.34 was above our expectations, primarily due to outperformance on revenue better segment mix and favorable price. The adjusted effective tax rate for the fourth quarter was about 18%, up from about 15% last year, driven by higher discrete benefits in the prior year. For the full year, fiscal 2025, our adjusted EPR was 17%. Free cash flow in Q4 was $405 million and was $38 million higher than the prior year.
Slide 10 provides the sales and margin performance overview of our 3 operating segments. Intelligent Devices margin of 19.8% decreased 90 basis points year-over-year due to a tough comparison with last year's Clearpath earnout reversal and higher compensation this year, resulting in the incremental in the teens. Excluding the earnout reversal, incrementals would have been about 30%. Software & Control margin of 31.2% was up 880 basis points versus prior year, driven by outstanding 30% organic sales growth and good price realization. The segment saw year-over-year incrementals in the high 50s.
Life cycle services margin of 17.5% was up 30 basis points year-over-year, a mid-single-digit organic sales decline and higher comp would normally have driven segment margin lower year-over-year. However, the team continued to deliver strong project execution and higher productivity. Overall, for Rockwell, the incremental margin on the year-over-year sales growth was about 40% in Q4.
I want to take a moment to point out the sequential movement we saw in each of our segments. Intelligent Devices had sequential incrementals in the high 20s on low double-digit sales growth, reflecting seasonal shipments of [ configure to order ], which created a sequential negative mix. Software & Control sequential incrementals were in the low 20s with modest sequential sales growth after a very strong Q3. Lifecycle services saw similar sequential dollar growth in both sales and segment earnings, yielding 100% conversion on strong project execution. Overall, for Rockwell, the incremental margin on the sequential sales growth was in the high 30s.
Let's move to the next Slide 11 for the adjusted EPS walk from Q4 fiscal 2024 to Q4 of fiscal 2025. Year-over-year, core performance had a $1.45 impact in Q4. Software & Control is the primary driver of both sales and earnings growth in the quarter. The largest driver in our core was volume, followed by structural productivity and price. Compensation had a $0.45 impact in Q4 compared to our prior expectation of about $0.30 of impact driven by our outperformance in the quarter. Full year compensation expense, which includes merit and bonus ended the year at $255 million. As I mentioned earlier, we are lapping the prior year benefit from a Clearpath earnout reversal this quarter. With some other onetime items, this resulted in a $0.15 headwind.
Slide 12 provides full year 2025 key financial information. Reported and organic sales increased 1% to $8.3 billion, 200 basis points better than our original guidance midpoint for the year. Currency was neutral. Full year segment margin of 20.4% increased 110 basis points from last year and [ was up ] 140 basis points better than our original [ guide ]. The increase was due to our margin expansion and cost reduction actions, price and favorable mix. This was partially offset by higher compensation and unfavorable net currency. Adjusted EPS of $10.53 was up 7% and well over $1 better than the midpoint of our initial guide for the year. For the year, we deployed about $1 billion of capital towards dividends and share repurchases, while we continue to pause on our inorganic revenue. Our capital structure and liquidity remains strong.
Moving on to the next slide, 13, to discuss our guidance for the full year. Our organic sales growth guidance is 2% to 6% or 4% at the midpoint. We expect about 100 basis points of currency benefit, so reported revenue growth is expected to be 5% at the midpoint. Our guidance does not include the anticipated impact from the Sensia dissolution. Once the JV is dissolved, we'll update our FY '26 guide for the remainder of the year. As we mentioned, this will reduce reported revenue and increased margin percentage but have no significant impact on EPS.
Our segment operating margin guidance is 21.5%, more than 100 basis points higher than -- higher year-over-year. Our adjusted EPS guidance is a range of $11.20 to $12.20, or $11.60 at the midpoint. We expect a couple of points of price for fiscal 2026, 1% on underlying price and 1% from tariff price. From this growth, we expect our FY '26 incremental margin to exceed 40%, inclusive of tariff-based pricing.
Looking ahead to 2026 capital expenditures, we plan to increase investments in plant and digital infrastructure with targeted CapEx spending of about 3% of sales. In terms of the calendarization, as Blake mentioned, we expect a sequential decline in Q1, followed by a gradual sequential improvement in subsequent quarters. This is true for both sales and margins as we progress through the year.
Now let me share some additional color on our first quarter. In Q1, we expect overall company sales to be down low double digits sequentially, given normal seasonality and the continued uncertainty and slower CapEx activity. With that said, we do expect good year-over-year growth in both sales and margins with total company segment margins in the high teens range. This translates to more than 25% year-over-year growth for adjusted EPS. From a business segment standpoint, Intelligent Devices sales in Q1 are expected to be down low double digits sequentially due to ongoing softness in our configure-to-order shipments. As a result, we expect Intelligent Devices segment margins to be in the mid- to high teens. Software & Control margin is expected to be in the high 20s in the first quarter on sequential sales declines in the high single digits. Lifecycle services sales are expected to be down high single digits sequentially, driven by a combination of both normal seasonality and continued CapEx project delays. We expect segment margin for Lifecycle services in the low double digits.
For the full year, we expect segment sales and margin as follows: Intelligent Devices reported sales growth is expected to be in the mid- to high single digits. We expect margins in the high teens to low 20s or 150 to 200 basis points higher year-over-year, driven by continued progress on productivity. Software & Control reported sales growth is expected to be mid-single digits. We expect margins in the low 30s, up slightly year-over-year and driven by better volume and price. Lifecycle Services reported sales growth is expected to be flattish. We expect margins in the low teens, lower than last year. Let's turn to Slide 14 for our adjusted EPS walk for the full year. Our core is expected to be $1.40 for the year. Included in our core is productivity, which is the term we are using for operationalizing our ongoing focus on cost reduction and margin expansion. FX is expected to be a $0.20 tailwind. We expect our adjusted effective tax rate this year to be 20%, reflecting the implementation of BEPS Pillar Two. The resulting EPS headwind from tax is $0.40. A few additional comments on fiscal 2026 guidance for your models. Corporate and other expense is expected to be around $100 million. Since we are no longer including legacy asbestos and environmental costs and other income, corporate and other expense is about $18 million lower than it was -- than it otherwise would have been for the year. Net interest expense for fiscal 2026 is expected to be about $120 million. We're assuming average diluted shares outstanding of about 112.7 million shares, and we are targeting approximately $500 million worth of share repurchases during the year.
I'd like to thank the global Rockwell team for outstanding execution that allowed us to exceed our cost reduction and margin expansion targets and company guidance for fiscal '25. This organization is ready to build on this momentum and deliver another strong year.
With that, I'll turn it back to Blake for some closing remarks before we start Q&A.
Thanks, Christian. This year's Automation Fair and Investor Day at McCormick Place in Chicago, is the best venue to see what's special about Rockwell. We're looking forward to showcasing the best solutions and partner network in the business including software-defined automation and AI-enabled technology from sensor to software, integrated intelligent devices, robotics and digital services. You will hear from customers about our differentiated value and for management as we review progress on our goals, details of our internal investments and inorganic priorities.
I'm looking forward to seeing you there. Aijana will now begin the Q&A session.
Thanks, Blake. [Operator Instructions] Julianne, let's take our first question.
Our first question comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research.
2. Question Answer
Lots of questions. I'm sure you're going to get lots of questions on the guide, but I just would want to start with Sensia. And just what's the postmortem like? It just doesn't feel like that ever really got traction the way you guys expected it to, even though I think there was a fair amount of support for it at the highest levels in both companies. But what was kind of the postmortem of why it didn't work out?
Yes. Scott, I think for starters, standing up a new entity a few months before COVID kind of descended on the world had a particular impact in energy markets for that period of time. So that created a challenging starting point. I think from an operations standpoint, the scope that Sensia had laid out was broad, which added cost. And while we worked it into a position of operational profitability, we jointly decided that it wasn't going to meet our long-term goals to justify the continued, let's say, complexity of a JV. And so returning the originally contributed businesses added simplification. And I would also say that we're different companies than we were in 2019. We've added considerable technology capabilities, both in terms of the control architecture as well as software and digital twins, simulation, which is useful in a lot of these applications. And so we felt it was the right time to simplify and obviously, the increased profitability reflected on the overall company as attractive as well.
So it just sounds like just since there's not a lot of earnings impact of the adjustment that it wasn't very profitable JV overall, but is getting processed up to discrete margin something that is more a function of volumes? Or is there a cost or a product issue and scale? I mean, just a little color there, and then I'll pass it on.
Yes, sure. So first of all, just due to the nature of process applications typically requiring more engineering content, order-specific engineering content, you have more people involved and so that's going to put some suppression on margins as opposed to just providing raw product into an application. That being said, the work that life cycle services has done over the last couple of years to really dramatically increase their margins reflects the proof that those margins can be improved even in a people-intensive business. And obviously, the further incorporation of artificial intelligence and the software-defined automation that we've been talking about helps as well as you make greater use of libraries and reduced integration costs through digital twins.
So I think the work that we're doing on the products, the work we're doing in life cycle services, specifically the rigor with which they select projects to pursue, which was part of the reason for the good performance in Q4. All of those things that bode well for us to be able to continue to grow in process, specifically in energy and oil and gas more profitably going forward.
I'll see you guys in Chicago.
Our next question comes from Andrew Obin from Bank of America.
Impressive growth numbers in Software & Control, could you give us a sense, and I know you don't give an exact number, but can you give us a sense where the Logix volumes are relative to where we were pre-COVID?
Sure. So Andrew, in the back half of the year, we touched pre-COVID unit volumes for Logix for the full year fiscal '25, we were still below pre-COVID. And so if there's room to run just with the math of that is obviously the market is expanding. And then, of course, we benefited from good price over that period of time. So in fiscal '26, we do expect Logix unit volumes to get back to those precoded levels and then obviously continue on from there with market growth as well as market share.
Excellent. And I may be wrong on the timing, but I believe in '26, you're going to start rolling out new Logix products. And I'm sure you will talk about it at the Analyst Day, but does that impact sort of margin patterns, seasonality in the year because I think there is a big product upgrade ahead of you over the next couple of years.
Yes. Andrew, you're right. And actually, we've already started. So we released new Logix L9 processor ahead of schedule. We're already taking orders for it. It provides a higher performance than any other Logix processes that we've had. And that's just one example. [ Process IO ] is off to a good start when we've released a new family of [ Process IO ]. And then what we've been talking about a lot is software defined. Automation, which includes Logix [ in ] software form and you'll be able to see that in a couple of weeks when you're in Chicago. So a lot of vitality in that business, with more to come. In terms of the impact, we don't typically see a big swell of orders when we release a new product, it's more of a contribution to the steady sequential growth of the product family. But I would tell you that orders are off to an impressive start for those new products.
Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz from Citigroup.
I think you said previously that book-to-bill is now running close to 1x. So I assume that was the case in Q4. And would you expect that to continue to be the case moving forward? And then I know today, you said your CapEx projects are still getting delayed. Are you any more confident that you'll see some of these larger orders move forward in '26 or can you sustain a book-to-bill [ one time without ] a big improvement in these projects?
Sure. So in general, the product business, orders and shipments are really right on top of each other, and we continue to expect that. So the orders that distributors are saying are translating into orders on asset, normal rates, deliveries are fine. And so we don't expect that to change in the year. and we'll continue to provide the book-to-bill and life cycle services where you do have some offset due to the longer lead times in projects in that business. In terms of CapEx in the year, it does continue -- we do continue to see projects being delayed. And as we've characterized it before we see typically those projects [ that ] our customers subject to a higher level of approval, delegation of authority requirement in their organization. So there are projects coming through. We certainly talked about a few of those a few minutes ago. And we expect gradual sequential improvement through the year. The guide does not contemplate some big improvement in the capital environment. So that would be a factor that would push us more to the higher end of the guide if we did see a release of capital at a greater rate through the year.
And then just looking at your segment margin forecast, as you said you're forecasting over 40% incremental margin, which [indiscernible] described as [indiscernible] described as a more normal year for Rockwell where you're layering -- restructuring savings of productivity. And I think the incentive comp is more normalized as well versus FY '25. I think, Christian, you mentioned you're still absorbing some [ tariff ] tailwind. So does that mean that, that's the kind of incremental margin we can count on from Rockwell moving forward? Maybe just a little bit more on the puts and takes would be helpful.
Sure. Andy, Christian will have some more to say on this. But at a higher level, while we are proud of incremental conversion expected in the year due to all the factors that you said, including normalized run rate for compensation, continuing aggressive productivity and so on. We're not ready to change our guidance lower incremental for a long-term framework.
Yes. And so just to build off of that, the long-term framework has a 35% incremental number, again, that's kind of through the cycle, mid-cycle to mid-cycle. You're going to see some variability from quarter-to-quarter, obviously and also from year-to-year periodically. So as we're looking at the momentum we're taking into fiscal '26 that 40% felt like an appropriate number. It's not a heroic change from the 35%, but we are seeing just a little bit better opportunity in this coming year.
Our next question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays.
I wanted to start on the top line guidance. So just finishing the year with very strong growth. You're guiding for sort of mid-single digits at the midpoint for the year ahead. And starting off, I suppose, with high single digit year-on-year in the first quarter. So I just wanted to try and understand when we're thinking about that revenue guide for the balance of the year, was it sort of constructed with a view around sort of normal seasonality or just a very tough comps in the second half? And anything happening to price year-on-year as we move through fiscal '26?
Yes. So a couple of comments. And again, I think Christian will have more detail. As we look across the end markets, in general, we're looking at mid-single-digit growth for discrete and hybrid low single-digit growth or process. We had some outliers, they are semiconductor flattish and discrete warehouse e-commerce up around 10%. And then in hybrid good results expected from the part of the business, food and beverage, life sciences and so on. But CapEx continues to be suppressed in terms of spending. And so that influences the low single-digit expectation in process.
Yes. And so as we kind of shape that year out, Julian, you're right, we implied in that guide and the way we think about the first quarter and when we shaped the first quarter, yes, we're looking at high single digit growth year-over-year in the first quarter and then the comps get more difficult as the year goes on. We are looking for sequential revenue improvement from Q1 to Q2 and then through the remainder of the year. But if you're looking at year-over-year rates during the course of the year, then yes, those are going to be at a declining level from -- again, more due to the difficult comps.
And just on that pricing, I think it was 4 points in the fourth quarter, does that sort of assume to be de minimis tailwind exiting this new fiscal year?
Yes. So the way we talked about pricing for fiscal '26 is that we're looking at 1 point of underlying price and 1 point of tariff-based price is what's included in our guide. As you're aware of, price is not something that you can just universally make changes around their market dynamics or competitive dynamics. So part of what we're working on is -- we want to make sure we have a balanced approach. Tariff-based pricing is, of course, absolutely critical for us to ensure that, that EPS neutrality is kept intact. At the same time, we also want to make sure we get underlying price. Tariffs have helped us on price realization broadly. You saw that kind of throughout fiscal '25, which is a great thing.
As we turn the corner, we go into fiscal '26, again, we want that balanced approach, ensuring that we can get that tariff-based price is absolutely critical. When we think about the 1% underlying price, again, we feel really good about our ability to realize that hopefully, we can continue to try to execute at a higher [ clip ].
And then just a quick follow-up on margins. So you had 110 bps of margin expansion the year just finished off volumes that were down slightly in the year. and a big comp headwind. The year ahead, volumes are up low single digit in the guide, [ bit ] comp headwind and the same margin expansion. Is your point there that you're just using that sort of placeholder for now of 40% that there isn't some big hike in specific investment spend or something like that.
Yes. So there is no really big hike in investment spend. That's for sure. I don't know if I'd call it a placeholder necessarily. We had really good progress in fiscal '25 on cost reduction and margin expansion. Blake highlighted it. That $325 million is a very significant number for this organization. We have additional opportunities as we go into fiscal '26. We're going to talk about that a little bit more when we get into Investor Day as well. So there is a portion of that that's definitely built into our guide. At the same time, we want to make sure that we are continuing to have great profitability growth and that 40% number seems, again, it seems like we can go [indiscernible].
Our next question comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley.
It certainly seems like demand is getting better. If you look at the order rates [ in the ] above [ $2 billion ] the last 2, 3 quarters last year, they were below [ $2 billion ]. Do you think that this is a cycle momentum? Do you think this is a reshoring tailwind investment coming through? Do you think you guys are just gaining share versus the market because when you look broadly at the industrial economy or even your competitors in discrete, [ we're ] not really seeing this level of acceleration or momentum broadly.
Sure. Chris, I think there's pieces of each of the factors that you mentioned. First of all, the U.S. is probably the healthiest market around the world, and that's a home field for us, with high share. So we're going to get a lot of that benefit from investment. And we'll talk more about this in a couple of weeks at Investor Day, but we did see higher orders due to capacity expansion in the U.S. this year than last year, and we expect to see higher orders from that activity in fiscal year '26. The demand, particularly for the product side of the business, which is still more than half of our business is good. Optimization of brownfields, adding software into facilities that have a base level of automation and looking for more efficiency with information management software. We have a portfolio that's second to none. We do think that we're taking share there. So I think it's all those pieces that put us in a favorable position.
And then I wanted to follow up around the medium-term margin target, which you guys have out there of 23.5%. You just did a 22.5% and I know Q4 is the seasonal peak, but the quarter did have headwinds from FX and tariffs. I imagine there's more cost-out opportunity next year given that you guys exited pretty strong on that front. And then another 50 bps, I guess, of margin uplift from Sensia JV going away. It just feels like we're getting awfully close to that 23.5% target. I guess in that context, are you rethinking that? And do you think there's meaningful upside to that prior target?
Chris and I are both smiling because it is something that we're proud of is that progress. But we are laser-focused on attaining the current targets that we've set out there. As we've talked about, we've got plans already underway to get us to and through that number, but we're focused on hitting it first.
Yes. And it's absolutely -- we want to continue to make progress against that. And Blake's response and saying to and through that is top of mind for us. We are really spending a lot of time and energy to make sure that we have a lot of runway to continue to go through that as we move forward. At the same time, we're not ready to put a new target in place. Let's go achieve this one first.
Our next question comes from Steve Tusa from JPMorgan.
Congrats on execution.
Thanks, Steve.
Just on inflation, what level of inflation did you guys see in the quarter?
Inflation was relatively modest. Keep in mind, we have a lot of cost reduction and margin expansion actions that are underway inside the organization. So it's a good countermeasure we've been taking all year along, we expect that to continue to be an opportunity for us to work to offset inflation as we go into '26.
Okay. And then the 1% tariff that you got, you said that was offset in the quarter or that was -- or you were ahead of the tariffs in the quarter?
Yes. On the EPS line, it was neutral for us in the quarter. That is the tariff-based price that we achieved in the tariff-based price that we achieved in the fourth quarter was simply to offset the tariff-based cost.
Okay. That makes sense. And going forward for next year, do you still expect inflation to be kind of minimal and then maybe a little bit ahead on the tariff stuff?
Yes. So we do expect the inflation to be relatively minimal. We're not seeing anything out there that we're ready to call out from the tariff-based price and cost perspective, again, our expectation is to keep that EPS neutral. It's a really important factor for us. That is we are not using tariffs as an opportunity for us to expand margins. We're not using tariffs as an opportunity for us to grab some profit. We truly are -- importantly for our customers, we are using tariff-based pricing to [ offset ] the costs that we're incurring.
Okay. One last quick one. Just you guys didn't mention orders this quarter. You said last quarter, it was -- the book-to-bill was around 1 there's some seasonality here. Where was the -- where did the book-to-bill land this quarter?
Yes, book-to-bill still within that range of around 1 that we have been talking about with product orders right on top of shipments.
Your next question comes from Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research.
Christian, I just want another crack at the incremental margin [ of 40% ]. I think comp came in at [ 2.60% ] this year. I think you've mentioned in the past that [ 2.25% ] is the right run rate. So just wondering if that's still the case. And there should be some wraparound on cost from 2025 to '26. We [ sized that ] at [ $50 million, $75 million similar ] to that. Again, is that the right math there?
Yes. So on the incremental side and specifically around compensation, the number of it that I gave in my prepared comments was [ 2.55% ]. So you're right in that ballpark. The way to think about comp for us as we turn the page and look at '26 is that generally, things normalize. So you shouldn't expect us to actually to see comp as a specific bar chart in our waterfalls as we talked through, it's going to be part of our core as is the productivity and the ongoing cost reduction and margin expansion. So again, that part has generally normalized. We've got really good motions in place to continue to work on margin expansion broadly using all the levers inside the organization, whether you're talking about price, cost reduction and margin expansion, again, or just continued leverage on the business. So again, feel very comfortable around trying to drive towards that 40%.
And is the math on the cost wraparounds in the right [ term ] as well?
I think that that's correct. But...
I get it. I get it. And then, Mike, maybe on some of the -- 2 of the end markets. Auto growing low double digits and warehouse e-com up 70, is the warehouse really being driven by -- you called out, I think, Clearpath's up 25%. So just wondering if that's the big driver of warehouse and if that continues into 2026. And then on auto, we are seeing a lot of brownfield expansion plans in the U.S. So just wondering if you have this plan, whether you're expecting auto to be maintaining in the double-digit zone.
We're expecting auto to the mid-single digits in the -- well, in fiscal year '26. It stabilized in a lot of ways. We are seeing some projects. But as they're retooling to ICE and hybrid again, but we're not placing a lot of bets on CapEx all springing back there. with respect to e-commerce and warehouse automation, it is really a shared contribution across the company in both traditional sources of value like logic and variable speed drives and motion control, along with some of the newer things that do include the auto as well as software throughout that.
So it's an industry. And as we've talked about it, it's multifaceted, to be sure, there's some data center in there but there's also parcel handling. There's CPG companies that have their own warehousing as well. And we have great readiness to serve in that area, which many of these customers have identified as kind of a hidden opportunity for major productivity in your operations.
Julianne, we'll take one more question.
Our last question will come from Jeff Sprague from Vertical Research.
Christian, I just want to come back to sort of understanding sort of the Sensia accounting and sort of like in my simple mind, right? I think if you and Schlumberger are picking up your ball and going home, there shouldn't be a charge, but I understand you build an organization, and therefore, you need to take a charge around dismantling it. But if you're dismantling overhead as you take it apart, why isn't there some earnings benefit going forward from the dissolution of those costs? Hopefully, that makes sense. That's what I'm a little confused by.
Yes, it makes -- it does make sense. So there's a couple of factors to go with this. Obviously, when we established the joint venture, we did have to put it onto our balance sheet. That had a value to it. So when we took the decision to dissolve it, there was an impairment that occurred. So we had to recognize that, which was what we did in the fourth quarter. As we pull apart those pieces, there are parts that come back to Rockwell, there are parts that go to SLB and there is a P&L that's attached to both of those as well as assets that go with them, employees and whatnot. And so there's a bunch of mathematics that go with it. There are some other transaction -- minor transactional costs that will occur as we get closer to the closing date.
So generally, that's how it all [ pulls ] together. And when we think about what the future state is going to be, again, as Blake mentioned, we do expect it to be somewhat beneficial to our overall company margins as well as that for the life cycle services.
Understood. And then corporate looks low even kind of making the adjustment for the asbestos-related accounting. Is this where some of the overhead and restructuring and kind of cost actions that you've talked about are really bearing fruit? Or is there some kind of change in allocation between corp and the segments going on? And is that 100-ish a pretty good run rate going forward, maybe it grows with inflation going forward, but is that a pretty good baseline?
Yes, [ that number ] is a pretty good baseline. The delta -- you're right, there's a couple of deltas that are happening there. One is the removal of the asbestos [ and ] environmental. The other part is the driver of that next step of the reduction. [ It's ] related to implementation costs on our cost reduction and margin expansion activities that we incurred in fiscal '25. A lot of that's built into our base right now, and it's being driven more within the various aspects in the segments. So that's where that's going, but it's -- also a lot of those costs, those execution costs are also going to be going away.
Great. That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us today.
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Rockwell Automation — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
Rockwell Automation — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatzwachstum: Q4 reported +14% YoY; organisch +13% (Produktstärke treibt Wachstum).
- Adjusted EPS: $3,34 in Q4; FY2025 $10,53.
- Segmentmarge: Q4 22,5%; FY-Marge 20,4% (Verbesserung durch Produktivität).
- Free Cash Flow: Q4 $405M; FY FCF $1,4Mrd mit 114% Conversion (inkl. $70M Pensionszahlung).
- Produktivität: $325M strukturelle Einsparungen erreicht (Ziel übertroffen).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Sensia-Entscheidung: Auflösung des JV; Rockwell übernimmt Prozess-Aktivitäten, SLB übernimmt seine Teile — vereinfachte Go-to-Market-Struktur.
- Strategischer Fokus: Ausbau Software & Control (Logix, Plex, Fiix), Produktpreisdisziplin und weitere Produkt- (Logix L9, Process IO) sowie Clearpath‑Synergien.
- Investitionen: $2 Mrd. US-Investitionsprogramm über 5 Jahre; Schwerpunkt Nordamerika, Talent und digitale Infrastruktur.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Umsatzguide FY26: Organisch 2–6% (Mittel 4%); berichtete Wachstumsrange ~3–7% (Währungsplus ~1 Punkt bei Mittelfeld).
- Profitabilität: Segmentmarge ~21,5% (>100 bp YoY); FY26 adjusted EPS $11,20–$12,20 (Mid ≈ $11,60); FCF‑Conversion ~100%.
- Sensia-Effekt: ~ $250M jährlicher Umsatzrückgang nach Auflösung, aber ~+50 bp Marginwirkung; Q1 erwartet saisonaler sequentieller Rückgang (low‑double‑digit).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Sensia-Postmortem: Management nennt COVID‑Timing, breite Scope und Komplexität; Impairment anerkannt, zukünftige Margenvorteile betont.
- Produkt-/Volumenfragen: Logix‑Volumen nahe Pre‑COVID in H2; neue Produkte (L9, Process IO) bereits im Markt, kein einmaliger Bestellboom erwartet.
- Nachfrage & Margen: Book‑to‑bill ~1; CapEx‑Projekte verzögert — Guidance konservativ; inkrementelle Marge FY26 ~40% (langfristiges Ziel 35% über den Zyklus).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Starke Ausführung: Umsatzrotation zu Software/Produkten, deutlich höhere Margen und starker Cashflow. Sensia‑Auflösung reduziert Umsatz, verbessert aber Profitabilität. Kurzfristiger Risiko‑Fokus bleibt auf makro / CapEx‑Timing; Aktie profitiert, falls Rockwell die erwarteten Margen- und Share‑Gains bestätigt.
Rockwell Automation — Morgan Stanley’s 13th Annual Laguna Conference
1. Question Answer
All right. Thank you, everybody. I'm Chris Snyder, a U.S. multi-industry analyst at Morgan Stanley, super excited to be up here with Rockwell Automation. We have CEO and Chairman, Blake Moret; and Bob Buttermore, Chief Supply Chain Officer. Before we get into the Q&A, Blake's going to make some opening remarks.
Great. Well, thanks for the interest this morning. Looking forward to sharing some of the journey that we're on with you. We've been on a journey to add as Rockwell more ways to win to our sources of traditional value, so complementing our programmable controllers and our factory floor devices with software with high-value consulting services and with additional hardware solutions like mobile robots, independent cart technology and industrial PCs. Along the way, based on the volatility in the environment, we've had to add considerable redundancy to our operations, whether it's the speed with which we can implement price changes with the redundancy that we've built in our manufacturing footprint.
And with a lot of these actions over the last few years, we've paused to integrate what we built and bought into a cohesive solution. And I think that's important for customers to have a simplified solution that integrates all these pieces together, for employees to be able to refresh that culture that Rockwell is famous for and for investors and by laying off new acquisitions for a period of time to be able to help expand the margins. And of course, that's been a big focus of our initiatives over the last year or 2. So it puts us in what I think is a unique position as an American manufacturing pure play.
We have home field advantage for a lot of the activity that's going on here. But we're seeing a lot of success with our current position around the world. And I'll just finish with an observation that we are the most used technology in American manufacturing, and that's a place that I'm proud to be. And so with that, we'll turn it over to some questions.
Well, thank you for that. Maybe starting off at a high level, have customer conversations changed at all post election? Obviously, it's a huge focus of the administration to reindustrialize the country. There's a lot of policy that they're pushing through that is trying to support that. What are you seeing on the ground?
We're definitely seeing optimism about the importance of manufacturing in our biggest market. And that's encouraging. I would hasten to say that it is a worldwide game. It's not just American companies, right? There's lots of machine builders that participate in this around the world, engineering firms. And so it's giving us not only an opportunity to work closely and at a higher level with our traditional customers, but also to engage others in this value chain. And while certainly, Rockwell doesn't enjoy the same share uniformly around the world, we think that we're gaining share -- gaining modest share due in part to this increased focus on manufacturing in the U.S.
Appreciate that. I guess when you have conversations with customers, are there any verticals that stand out as maybe having stronger intentions there?
Sure. Just working through kind of our construct of discrete, hybrid and process markets. Automotive, there's, I think, a lot of pent-up demand, but I'm not ready to call an inflection point in automotive. They've got unique, specific situations that they're dealing with, determining what is the right positioning vis-a-vis electric vehicles and battery. Obviously, the tariffs impact domestic production quite a bit.
But as we talked about in our last earnings call, we're seeing some great wins in this space, including with some companies that are not headquartered in the U.S. It's probably our oldest served vertical. And while, again, we're not seeing unfettered CapEx spend at this point, we are seeing a significant contribution.
Also in the discrete space is e-commerce, warehouse automation, and I include in that as well parcel handling. And that's probably our single strongest vertical right now. And while it's not shoring or reshoring activities, they're seeing the need to build capacity and modernize existing capacity, and we have a great readiness to serve there with both our traditional offerings as well as some of our newer offerings like mobile robots.
In the hybrid space, pharmaceutical is a bright spot, obviously, in part due to the rapid increase of GLP-1 sales. But in general, people want to live longer, healthier lives. These are well-funded companies, and we have a good readiness to serve both in terms of our traditional hardware, more on the packaging side, but also in terms of the software, the MES that's so important in a validated industry, and we've had a very strong solution there for a long time.
And then consumer packaged goods, including food and beverage, home and personal care. Again, it's not so much about new capacity but modernizing, securing those facilities when we get a big cybersecurity contract for a multi-plant rollout in one of these areas, it's a big project for us. It's a multimillion dollar project that typically is heavy with annual recurring revenue.
On a little bit of the more suppressed side in general is process due in large part to uncertain demand as well as volatile commodity prices, oil and gas, chemical, they're dealing with oversupply coming out of China. And so right now, the spending is not quite as great in those areas.
Yes. You kind of said it, obviously, you guys have the best share in the U.S. So when companies are thinking of where am I going to build my next factory, obviously, tariffs raise the cost of imports. But beyond that, we're also seeing policy come through to provide domestic incentives, the One Big Beautiful bill, accelerated depreciation in that. Can you maybe talk about any of the incentives that are coming through? What stands out to you? And when do you think those could start having a positive impact on the market?
Yes. To be sure, having a certain statutory rate for corporations is helpful. I think when we were originally looking at making provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act from the first Trump administration permanent, we saw that as a net positive. With the tariff uncertainty, we're seeing it more as roughly an offset to the volatility of tariffs.
But having a dependable corporate rate is for sure helpful. Particularly for small and medium-sized companies, the immediate depreciation is helping. And we think that, that can spur some additional investment as well. And a big part of our business is small and medium-sized manufacturers. It makes up a large part of the employment, a significant part of the output and it's one of the areas that we're somewhat uniquely positioned to be able to address with our market access through our distributors.
Remember, the vast majority of our business in North America goes through distribution and for every 1 Rockwell salesperson, there's 4 or 5 distributor salespeople with steadily increasing capabilities that can get to those classes of customers that our foreign competitors just don't have the resources to get to.
Appreciate that. One of the things that I think is interesting when I look at the landscape of U.S. manufacturing is that it feels like a lot of the CapEx and future capacity growth is different from the production base today. The biggest production base in the U.S. is food and beverage. Semi is relatively small, but we're seeing a lot of capacity come through there.
When we look at Rockwell, your biggest end market is food and beverage. But I guess my question is, is that just a reflection of the U.S. production base? Or is it that no, Rockwell just has the products and the capabilities to do best in that market.
Yes. So a couple of parts to that. First of all, I think our focus on industries is due to a deliberate review of what are the industries that are big enough to be meaningful that have strong future growth potential and where Rockwell has the opportunity to differentiate. So it's no coincidence that some of our most highly penetrated vertical markets are in that hybrid space where you can use our single control platform to address all aspects of the production environment from the blending and the batching side, upstream at the wet end through the packaging requirements at the downstream side of the dry end with the same control platform.
And that's a huge benefit to customers. And it's why verticals like food and beverage, home and personal care and pharma are some of our best producing areas. When you look at the other part of that, the investment in the U.S., while a lot of the initial investments have been in data center and in semiconductor, we're not strangers to that space. And I would say when we look at the overall potential of new capacity in the U.S. that we're tracking, it's split roughly evenly between those areas where Rockwell has a little bit lower share with the areas like automotive, food and beverage, pharma where we have higher share. And so it's a nice split between the 2, and we're seeing that play out in terms of orders in new capacity in the U.S. that were higher in '25 than they were in '24, and we expect them to be still higher next year as well.
When I say that we're not strangers to some of those other areas of things like data centers and semiconductor, data center, we got great access through our Cubic acquisition where that's the single biggest served market when Bob was in his business role before -- business unit role before becoming Chief Supply Chain Officer, he championed that acquisition and that is by far the biggest served market for Cubic. But we're also doing work in data centers through building management systems, including activities that our distributors are participating in. And then again, in semiconductor, while it hasn't traditionally been the biggest market here domestically, in Asia, when you were in Asia, it was one of your very biggest markets.
Yes, it was one of our largest markets.
Maybe following up on data center because I think many people would not even think of that as a Rockwell end market because nothing is being produced. Can you maybe just expand on what you're doing in that market? Did it -- did you guys go out and try to get exposure there? Or did the market just kind of come to you with where the controls are going?
Yes. Let me position this appropriately to start with. Data center is low single digits of Rockwell's total growth. It's fast growing, of course, like data centers everywhere are, but I want to set it in the right context. We did when we looked at the Cubic acquisition, the Danish company we bought a couple of years ago, we were excited about the opportunity to get that existing data center exposure with a unique value proposition in the area of power distribution.
I didn't want to go out and play someone else's game by going and purchasing transformers or traditional switch gear. I think that's a crowded field right now. But with the Cubic offering, it gave us that access and the ability to participate profitably in that fast-growing business. But the other area -- the other application is in the building management system. So the qualified building management systems for data centers, managing the environment, the safety systems, fire suppression, things like that is our applications that we understand well and have done similar things in, in the past in semiconductor, in the clean room environment.
And we've seen a steady growth and an interest by the data center supply chain in the kind of redundancy and safety that we can offer in our industrial systems compared to what they've used in the past through some of the traditional building automation-focused systems.
I appreciate that. A year ago at this conference, the big concern or even I would say almost consistent view I was hearing was concern around Rockwell market share. I guess those concerns have calmed. Obviously, we've seen your growth kind of inflect above peers. Can you talk about competitive positioning, I guess, in the U.S. market specifically? And is there any impact from the policy -- the tariff policy given that your international competition base?
Well, let me start with the growth algorithm that Rockwell has introduced to investors a few years ago. We said that we're going to grow above the market. And the way that we're going to grow is -- has several components. The first is 3% to 5% growth from the market growth itself, we think automation is a -- has some good secular tailwinds because particularly as people seek to manufacture more in high labor cost locations like the U.S., the only way you can do that competitively is to complement labor with the thoughtful use of technology.
And we think that makes sense around the world whether you're in Asia or Europe or in the U.S. I can't think of anybody who's saying, yes, I don't need that technology. I can just do these things with pure manual labor, says nobody right now. We think we can get 1 to 2 points of growth through market share as well as expanding our served markets. So think of mobile robots, which we really didn't have an offering for and now we're in that, and that adds a few billion dollars of existing market growing at 40% a year and so there's that.
There is the growth just due to the wonderful compounding effect of annual recurring revenue. So annual recurring revenue, software and associated services is about 10% of our total business today from a very low base just a few years ago. And if it's growing around 10%, then the math of that yields about a point of growth and then another point of growth from acquisitions. So to your question, are any of the policies that focus on manufacturing in the U.S., helping that, I think they are and that's reflected in that 1% to 2% share growth in new served market because when the places where automation is being invested in are in your higher share growth area -- your higher share position areas like the U.S., then the math is in your favor.
Now in terms of our competitors, a lot of them are having to deal with the volatility and relatively weaker business conditions in China. China is about 4% of our revenue today. And while China is and will continue to be the world's largest manufacturing economy, and we continue to expect to have a presence in China, not having huge current exposure at risk in China is something that I feel pretty good about right now and then opportunities in other places, while some of our competitors are playing defense there, maybe with a little bit of a lackluster machine builder market in Europe in places like Germany, I like the hand that we're holding right now and we have every intention of going on offense, not only in North America but around the world.
Your comment that the math is in your favor. That's effectively been my positive view on U.S. industrials is that activity is shifting to the home market, benefits, I think, to group broadly. I think you guys would be at the top of the list on that. Is there any -- can you provide any data or color on what your market share is in the U.S. versus international markets?
Well, strong double digits overall, in particular, in PLCs, which is kind of the heart of the control system. The PLC is the brain in U.S. manufacturing -- or in manufacturing, it takes inputs, runs it through an algorithm, either a set program or aided increasingly by artificial intelligence and then changes the state of outputs. That's kind of at a very high level the control system. And we have 10x the market share in North America of our next closest competitor in programmable controllers. So it's strong. We think we can continue to grow that. But obviously, to achieve our full potential, it's going to involve growing outside of North America as well.
Yes. No, I appreciate that. Maybe moving over to margins. It's been a really incredible turnaround over the last 12 months in a market that is still sluggish, I would say. If we -- you guys last quarter, there were some FX headwinds, incentive comp. But when we kind of look through the numbers, it doesn't seem like the company is all that far away from its 23.5% target. Can you kind of talk about the margin opportunity and kind of the progression forward from here?
Yes. So as you said, I've been very happy with the way that the team has responded. And quite frankly, Bob's organization has done a lot of the heavy lifting because that's where a lot of the cost base is and the make part of our enterprise, and I'll ask him to make a couple of comments in a minute. But we do feel like we're well on our way towards hitting those margin targets that we announced.
We gave specific corridors of expectation by each of the business units, but it's a total company sport, right? So we can talk about getting to 22% to 24% margin in Intelligent Devices and 31% to 34% in Software & Control and 13% to 15% in Lifecycle Services, but that also involves the control of your SG&A, which is largely sitting in a unified central sales and marketing organization and making sure that we're making prudent investments but also controlling our current costs in our operations.
And so where -- the margin initiatives were kind of catalyzed by a very difficult 2024 where a lot of the cost out was characterized by workforce reductions we're past those big layoffs. And now we're making sure that we're managing our headcount, but also working on the blocking and tackling, if you will, of things like reducing the cost of direct material and changing indirect cost to the most efficient and looking at supplier changes, refootprinting our manufacturing, things like that.
Yes, I'll make a couple of comments. Blake highlighted that well. Over 18 months ago, we really flipped to really reenergizing, reestablishing our continuous improvement and productivity initiatives across the enterprise. And we reestablished, expanded our continuous improvement team, put metrics and governance in place to help us drive this kind of the continuous engine of opportunities for us. And Blake highlighted some of the great ones. It started with headcount and SG&A and indirect spend. .
But then it moved into areas where we have low-hanging fruit that we could go after with materials, with manufacturing with logistics. Now we're moving into those next phases of things that take a little bit longer, like product cost reductions and changing out parts to different forms and modes of transportation and our logistics, more automation, integrating more in-sourcing into our facilities. So we've started the journey, and it's just how do we continue this journey with things that have more meaningful impact over time.
I appreciate that. Just kind of given all the margin improvement we've seen, obviously, a new CFO joined about a year ago, a lot of opportunity. I don't want to like front run the '25 automation fair, but should we expect an update on those margin targets?
No, we want to finish the swing. Look, we're happy with the progress, but to use a baseball analogy, we want to look at into the glove and continue the progress we've made, while at the same time making the investments that will unlock the next phase of the journey because there will be a next phase of that journey with some longer lead time investments like the kind that we announced and that Bob's organization will be heavily really in the center of looking at the things that we're doing today that get us to what will be a blended overall corporate margin of above 23%.
But then what comes next? Well, some of the things of what come next don't happen immediately. And so we're making the investments now, we're feathering them in to make sure that we first do no harm and don't elongate the path to the current set of objectives but that we're ready to go when we get there to be able to go to and through those numbers on a continuing journey. And obviously as we put that together with the return to growth, we think that the more complete result is going to be pretty exciting.
Appreciate that. We've obviously seen a very nice pickup in order rates over the last year. I guess, is that just simply -- we moved past the destock, things are starting to normalize. Is there early signs of maybe some interest in building activity in the U.S. You called out or said there could be potential, at least in last quarter, maybe a little bit of a pull forward in the numbers. Just kind of what's the update there?
Yes. I think we're in a decent spot with respect to the products that go into brownfield operations, part of maintenance and repair orders, line extensions. I think some of that is what I would characterize as healthy underlying demand, certainly getting past the effects of destock. With respect to potential for pull forwards, we took a prudent approach with the experience of 2024 pretty fresh on our minds, and said, while we haven't seen any specific examples of pull-forward orders and when we do, we cancel those orders, and we did that in a couple of cases, we want to take a really prudent approach and to say, there could have been, and we'll continue to look at that.
We haven't seen explicit evidence of it, but we wanted to take a prudent, cautious approach in that respect. That's on the product side. On the CapEx side, the Engineered Systems, we have seen a weaker environment due to the uncertainty with tariffs. And as soon as we can clear that up and get past the period of as volatile of adding tariffs, taking them away, adding them back, that is suppressing some CapEx spend, and I think there is pent-up demand that while we're seeing some projects come through, in general, CapEx right now is due to -- is subject to a higher level of scrutiny at our customers.
Again, some of it's getting through. We're testament to that with our announcements that we are going to make these expenditures. But in general, the faster we can reduce that uncertainty coupling more stability in tariffs with the tax bill, I think that's a pretty fertile ground for new investment and with unemployment staying at objectively low levels, that's another, I think, very important KPI that we keep our eye on.
Yes. Your commentary there that there's a lot of optimism and maybe positive sentiment about the larger greenfield projects. We're not necessarily or not seeing a convert yet to orders or revenue. I guess, what do you think could kind of help unlock that and kind of allow these to drive orders?
I think the single biggest thing is just laying off volatile new announcements with respect to trade and tariffs, not -- well, working on improving but not blowing up USMCA, for instance, making sure that we're not making more public announcements about what would be very big changes in terms of already announced tariffs, I think, is the single best thing that we can do to reduce that uncertainty and unlock some of that additional spend.
Yes. You mentioned earlier about the $2 billion spending plan that the company announced. Can you kind of maybe unpack that for us? Where is the investment going? And ultimately, how does that spend actually unlock that next leg of Rockwell margin expansion?
So a lot of the detail will come from our Investor Day in November in Chicago, the week of November 17. But broadly, we said we're making additional investments in plant, talent and digital infrastructure, digital infrastructure, our internal business systems as well as our ability to sell our digitization capabilities to companies that themselves are on their digital transformation journey, making sure that we have the right people for the most in-demand skills today in an age of AI, making sure internally, we have people who are comfortable with those technologies and as that continues to be a greater and greater part of what we're selling externally can represent those benefits and then plants which impacts the brownfield existing plants that we have as well as the potential for some new brick and mortar.
Yes, there's probably 4 areas that I would highlight in the manufacturing or the supply chain area that we're focused on investments. And one is facilities and expanding those, some new brick-and-mortar, including owning those facilities where the lease expense, the equation is good with our interest expense and our depreciation that would be one area. Second area would be around our manufacturing facilities, more automation, moving from automation to autonomy in places like Singapore and Twinsburg, Ohio and Mequon, Wisconsin.
And I'll give you an example of that. We're integrated -- we've done that in Singapore where we went -- Singapore was already a world-class facility for us. We went and invested in a project there with CapEx and some OpEx over -- about 18 months ago. We implemented that 9 months ago, and it's really transformed that facility with automated mobile robots moving material from the inbound docks to the outbound docks, to integrating more automation and AI in our facilities. We'll talk more about that as we get to Investor Day.
Some other areas that we'll be investing in is systems, systems outside of the enterprise systems that Blake was talking about like transportation management systems, advanced planning systems, global trade management systems that will help us drive productivity over the next horizon for us. And then lastly, continuous improvement in general, just creating that continuous funnel of opportunities. Some things we'll be doing there are like in-sourcing, in-sourcing as an opportunity for us to more vertically integrate and capture some of that margin that we've been giving away over time.
Yes. And just -- if I can add, each of these projects have to pass their own ROI hurdle, and we ourselves have the ability to feather these things in. So I mentioned earlier to make sure that we first do no harm to the current trajectory we're on, but set us up for that next phase of productivity.
No, I appreciate that. I wanted to follow up on Bob's point about in-sourcing. I think it's I guess very clear that if you in source maybe you could get some more margin from somebody else, more fixed assets, maybe better incrementals. But does it -- is there an impact on innovation? Could the company innovate at a faster rate with more vertical integration? Is that part of the thought process?
I think there is some of that in terms of the ability for continuous improvement; integration [ withhold ], when you think about that, if you have somebody who's a contract manufacturer for us, they don't really care that much about integrating with other disparate products or software elsewhere in the organization.
But if you're part of, let's say, the Software & Control business unit, where within your own business, you've also got the cloud-native software, you're thinking a little bit more about how could I get data from this I/O card that maybe we were previously outsourcing and to be able to get that all the way up in a clever way into a cloud-based information management system. So I think certainly, theoretically, there's some of that.
And then practically, with products like GuardianAI, where you're taking data from our dry products which we've been making for many years and bringing those up into our fixed maintenance management system that's probably a tangible example of innovation that if we had outsourced a lot of that then we might have walked by it.
Yes. I think there's some exciting things, too, in the manufacturing realm that will help us innovate there, additive manufacturing and the opportunity not just in plastic but in metals that will allow us to innovate in our products and be able to serve our customers more quickly when they have certain special things they want.
No, absolutely. Just last couple of minutes here, maybe I wanted to hit on some important end markets. Auto has been a big end market for U.S. industrial production, big end market for Rockwell, big focus for the administration. It's an end market that's been depressed, but the growth did pick up for you guys pretty nicely in Q3. I guess what are you seeing there? Do you think the momentum there can be sustained?
Yes, we were encouraged by a relatively better performance in Q3. We had some easy comps that were helping us out in that area. We did see some projects that we talked about that were good, including from some non-U.S.-based OEMs. And so automotive is a big industry for us, about 10% of our business and there's a substantial amount of maintenance of just the existing facilities. We have such a large installed base. That's a good part of the total business.
Model changes continue to drive the spend there and whether it's in the most extreme case moving from internal combustion engines to electric vehicles but even within traditional vehicles when there's a change made that drives a lot of automation spend. And we continue to have just a great offering in terms of products, in terms of software as well as kind of intrinsic ambient expertise in the company that allow us to address that. Again, I'm not ready to call an inflection point in automotive. But as we see the reduction in uncertainty due to tariffs that's probably the industry that will most benefit from that consistency.
Well, we are up on time. I could ask questions all day, but I appreciate the conversation. Thank you, guys.
Thanks, Chris. Thank you.
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Rockwell Automation — Morgan Stanley’s 13th Annual Laguna Conference
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🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Rockwell kombiniert klassische SPS- und Fabrik‑Hardware mit wachsendem Software‑/Service‑Geschäft und neuen Hardwarelinien (Mobile Robots, Cubic). Ziel: Margenausbau durch Integration, operative Redundanz und Re‑Footprinting; US‑Markt und Distributor‑Netzwerk bleiben Hebel, Tariff‑Unsicherheit hemmt größere CapEx‑Entscheidungen.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Produktmix: Ausbau in Mobile Robots und unabhängigen Transportlösungen ergänzt Kernprodukte (SPS = speicherprogrammierbare Steuerung) und erweitert adressierbaren Markt.
- Akquisition/Data Center: Cubic liefert Zugang zu Power‑Distribution und Building‑Management‑Anwendungen in Rechenzentren; Datenaufkommen liefert zusätzlichen Wachstumshebel, bleibt aktuell ein kleiner, schnell wachsender Bereich.
- Operative Maßnahmen: $2 Mrd Investitionsplan in Anlagen, Talent und digitale Infrastruktur; Fokus auf In‑Sourcing, Automatisierung und kontinuierliche Produktkostenreduktion zur Margenverbesserung.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Guidance‑Update: Management gab keine Aktualisierung der offiziellen Margenziele; will „die aktuelle Wende fertigstellen“ bevor Targets neu kartiert werden.
- Investitionsfokus: Details zum $2 Mrd Plan: Plants, Automatisierung (Beispiele: Singapore, Twinsburg), Systeme (APS/TMS) und kontinuierliche Verbesserung; ROI‑Hürden gelten.
- Ordersignal: Management berichtet höhere U.S.‑Bestellungen 2025 vs. 2024 und erwartet Fortsetzung, sieht aber keine klaren Belege für systematische Pull‑forwards.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Politik & Tarife: Analysten fragten nach Effekten von US‑Incentives und Tarifen; Management sieht Stimuluswirkung, nennt aber Tarif‑Volatilität als zentrales Hemmnis für Greenfield‑CapEx.
- Endmärkte: Vertikale Prioritäten: stärkste Dynamik in E‑Commerce/Warehouse und Pharma; Automotive zeigt Verbesserung, bleibt aber noch nicht als nachhaltige Inflektion bestätigt.
- Margen & Execution: Fragen zu Weg zur >23% Unternehmensmarge; Management betont laufende Kostenprogramme, Re‑Footprinting und In‑Sourcing, verweigerte aber konkrete Target‑Updates vor Abschluss laufender Maßnahmen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Präsentation unterstreicht Übergang zu höherwertigen Erlösquellen (Software/Services, neue Hardware) bei gleichzeitigem Fokus auf operative Hebel und kontrollierte Investitionen. Positiv für mittelfristiges EPS/Margenprofil, kurzfristig abhängig von Tarif‑klarheit und erfolgreicher Umsetzung der $2 Mrd‑Initiative.
Rockwell Automation — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for holding, and welcome to Rockwell Automation's quarterly conference call. I need to remind everybody that today's conference call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions].
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Aijana Zellner, Head of Investor Relations and Market Strategy. Ms. Zellner, please go ahead.
Thank you, Julianne. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's Third Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Christian Rothe, our CFO. Our results were released earlier this morning and the press releasing charts have been posted to our website. Both the press release and charts include, and our call today will reference non-GAAP measures. Both the press and charts include reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures.
A webcast of this call will be available on our website for replay for the next 30 days. For your convenience, a transcript of our prepared remarks will also be available on our website at the conclusion of today's call.
Before we get started, I need to remind you that our comments will include statements related to the expected future results of our company and are, therefore, forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties that are described in our earnings release and detailed in all of our SEC filings.
So with that, I'll hand it over to Blake.
Thanks, Aijana, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Before we turn to our third quarter results on Slide 3, I'll make a couple of initial comments. Rockwell had another good quarter as we returned to year-over-year sales growth. We had a diverse set of strategic wins in the quarter across discrete, hybrid and process industry segments. I'll highlight some of these in a few minutes.
We're also making good progress on our journey to the segment margin goals we introduced at our November 2023 Investor Day. This is large due to very good progress on our enterprise-wide productivity programs even as more of the year-over-year savings shifts from the initial G&A reductions to direct material costs and indirect services cost savings and operational efficiencies. We have already achieved our full year goal of $250 million in year-over-year productivity a quarter earlier than we anticipated, and I'm proud of how our organization has operationalized our ambitious productivity and continuing improving targets.
Price cost also remains favorable including the net impact from tariffs, which was minimal in the quarter. Importantly, we intend to take bold steps to continue our progress. Over the next 5 years, we will invest over $2 billion in plants, digital infrastructure and talent to grow share, build resilience and expand margins. The United States will be the largest beneficiary of these investments, which are primarily CapEx. These investments will complement our robust productivity programs to drive our global growth and margin expansion goals. We'll go into more detail on the scope and milestones tied to these investments in November, but it will include thoughtful implementation of automation to drive plant efficiency talent to fuel our highest return offerings and an AI-first business system to provide unmatched employee, partner and customer experiences.
This is right in the wheelhouse of expertise, and we'll be taking you and customers along with us on this journey. It's an exciting time to be a part of the Rockwell Automation story.
Turning to our third quarter results on Slide 3. While most customers continue to prioritize their spending on the productivity and efficiency of existing capacity, some are advancing their strategic plans for larger CapEx projects, including greenfields. Similar to last quarter, our total company book-to-bill was about 1.0 with year-over-year orders growth in the Americas, EMEA and Asia. Q3 sales were above our expectations. Reported sales were up 5%, and our organic sales were up over 4% year-over-year, with currency contributing less than 1 point of growth in the quarter. Similar to last quarter, product sales were better than some of the longer-cycle businesses, which tend to be more capital intensive. It's likely there were some customer pull-ins in the quarter, and we'll talk more about that in a minute.
Annual recurring revenue grew 7% in the quarter, below our expectations. Double-digit growth in our cloud native software business was offset by relative weakness in recurring services, mainly driven by delays in cybersecurity investments. From a business segment standpoint, our Intelligent Devices organic sales were up 1% versus prior year, with double-digit growth in products more than offsetting the year-over-year decline in our longer cycle configure to order business. We leveraged our differentiated intelligent devices portfolio to secure some new capacity wins both in greenfield and brownfield applications.
One of these wins was with Freshpet, a leading pet food manufacturer who is looking to expand their fresh food production capacity with a new processing plant in Ennis, Texas. Freshpet chose Rockwell for our standardized designs, product interoperability and a differentiated motor control center offering to help accelerate time to market at this greenfield. Another strategic MCC win in the quarter was also in the food and beverage space with Incobrasa Industries, a Brazilian soybean processing and biodiesel manufacturing company that is expanding in the United States. Rockwell was selected as Incobrasa's official automation partner for their new state-of-the-art facility in Central Illinois.
Clearpath sales were up double digits, but continue to be affected by CapEx delays in automotive. We're making good progress in integrating the auto AMR platform with our overall road map for autonomous operations and improve profitability even in a period of subdued customer CapEx investment. Software & Control organic sales grew 22% year-over-year, driven by strong growth in our hardware business. Logic sales were up over 30% versus prior year and up low double digits sequentially. Our SaaS business grew 10% year-over-year with strategic wins across FLEX and FIX.
One of our important software wins in Q3 was with Beam Therapeutics, a leader in manufacturing of cell and gene therapies. FactoryTalk, PharmaSuite, MES software will help this customer automate their production process and ensure quality control as they continue to expand their commercial operations in this fast-growing vertical. Another competitive win in the quarter was with Hancock Iron Ore. We are excited to be partnering with HIO as they take the next step in their digital journey. Working closely with our Kalypso team, this customer is adopting our advanced AI-driven predictive maintenance solutions like GuardianAI and data mosaics to enhance reliability and performance across their operations.
This engagement is a testament to the strength of the ongoing relationship and our mutual focus on building the future of mining together through co-innovation. Lifecycle Services organic sales declined 6% versus prior year, but were largely in line with our expectations given the difficult year-over-year comparison. Book-to-bill in this segment was 1.06 and was above 1.0 across all the contributing businesses. As we expected, customers continued to delay larger capital projects in Q3, waiting for more clarity and certainty around the impact of trade and policy on their input cost and volume.
Rockwell's segment margin of 21.2% and adjusted EPS of $2.82 were both above our expectations, mainly due to higher volume and strong execution on our cost reduction and margin expansion actions. Let's move to Slide 4 to review key highlights of our Q3 industry performance. Our discrete sales grew 10% versus prior year, driven by growth in automotive and e-commerce and warehouse automation. While most of our automotive covers continue to delay their capital investments, we had a large number of wins in the quarter. One of these brownfield projects in Q3 was to help Hyundai Motor Group expand their hybrid electric vehicle production in Georgia as they transition from EV only to a multi-energy production model, which addresses evolving consumer demand.
Another important automotive win this quarter was with Lucid Motors who chose our FactoryTalk MES for their state-of-the-art greenfield facility in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. E-commerce and warehouse automation sales were up 30% year-over-year with continued strength across all customer segments. In addition to our core automation offering, we're seeing more interest in autonomous material movement as our customers realize the benefits of our auto platform. Whether it is basic station to station movement or handling complex payloads, Rockwell is uniquely positioned to help scale AMR fleets to the operational needs of our customers and integrate with the rest of their automation.
Moving to our hybrid industries. Sales in this segment increased high single digits versus prior year with good growth across Food & Beverage, Home & Personal Care and Life Sciences. I already talked about some of our strategic wins in food and bev earlier on the call. We continue to see strong year and sequential growth at our packaging OEMs as they continue to invest in their next-generation machines for both food and beverage and HPC end users.
Sales in our Life Sciences vertical were up high single digits in Q3. While tariff uncertainty has caused a number of end-user project delays. We continue to build a strong pipeline of projects with both machine builders and end users. Our strong software and digital services capabilities continue to differentiate us in the fast-growing GLP-1 space. This quarter, Rockwell was selected by Thermo Fisher to help accelerate production of GLP-1 injectables for new capacity expansion by cutting their MES implementation time line in half.
Turning to Process Industries. Our sales in this segment were down low single digits. From a broader process standpoint, energy, chemicals, mining and metals are all facing pressure from weak global demand and volatile commodity prices, which is hampering their ability to invest. With that said, each end market is selectively redirecting capital to their high strategic priorities including mirror sustainability and modernization goals. In energy, we do have both the technical portfolio and market access to participate in an all-of-the-above strategy to meet accelerating capacity needs. And we had examples of both traditional fossil fuel and renewables wins in the quarter.
One of these wins was with a global energy technology company where our plant PAX process control solution was chosen for their hydroelectric project in India as part of the country's push for energy security through reliable and renewable electricity. We also secured an important oil and gas win with the leading Middle Eastern national oil company who chose our Sensia joint venture for the region's most strategic automation and cybersecurity upgrade project with significant recurring revenue potential.
Moving to Slide 5 and our Q3 organic regional sales. Once again, North America was our best-performing region in the quarter, and we expect it to be our strongest region for the full fiscal year 2025.
Let's now turn to Slide 6 to review our fiscal 2025 outlook. To be sure, we continue to operate in a volatile environment. It's good to have the U.S. tax bill in place, continued low unemployment and to see some progress on tariff negotiations. However, U.S. trade policy with some important countries remains uncertain and geopolitical risk remains elevated. Accordingly, our top line outlook for the second half of this fiscal year is largely unchanged with a slight increase to our prior guide due to tariff-related price increases and favorable currency. We do see a modest shift forward in the calendarization of our sales between our fiscal third and fourth quarters.
Given the continued trade uncertainty, we think some customers have pulled forward orders from Q4 to Q3 in order to mitigate risk and secure critical components. We now expect our reported and organic sales growth for the year to be in the positive 1% to negative 2% range. The midpoint of our guide assumes low single-digit sequential sales growth in Q4. We expect our annual recurring revenue to grow high single digits this year. We continue to expect our full year segment margin to be about 20% and we are increasing our adjusted EPS outlook to be $10 at the midpoint. We continue to expect free cash flow conversion of 100% in fiscal '25.
I'll now turn it over to Christian to give more detail on our Q3 and financial outlook for fiscal '25. Christian?
Thank you, Blake, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on Slide 7, third quarter key financial information. Third quarter reported sales were up 5% versus prior year, with minimal impact from currency. About 3 points of our organic growth came from price. While price cost was favorable, about 1 point of our price realization was from tariff-based pricing, which was neutral to EPS, benefits from cost reduction and margin expansion actions and price realization more than offset higher compensation.
Adjusted EPS of $2.82 was above our expectations, primarily due to the beat on the sales line as well as segment operating margin. The adjusted effective tax rate for the third quarter was 15.2%, above the prior year rate of 13.3%, primarily due to lower discrete tax benefits. We continue to expect a 17% ETR for fiscal 2025. Free cash flow of $489 million was $251 million higher than the prior year versus 153% in the third quarter.
Slide 8 provides the sales and margin performance overview of our 3 operating segments. While sales and Lifecycle Services came in as expected, performance in Intelligent Devices and software and control exceeded expectations with product growth more than offsetting the decline in our configure-to-order businesses. All segments executed well on our cost reduction and margin expansion targets, helping absorb the year-over-year increase in compensation expense. As a reminder, we did not have any incentive compensation costs in the same quarter of last year. Intelligent Devices margin of 18.8% decreased by 140 basis points year-over-year. against one of their most difficult comps of the prior year, primarily due to the higher compensation expense I just mentioned.
Given the small year-over-year dollar change in sales in this segment, decrementals are not as meaningful this quarter. We continue to see good price realization in this segment. Software & Control margin of 31.6% was up 800 basis points versus prior year, driven by double-digit volume growth and strong price realization. The segment saw year-over-year incrementals in the high [ 60s ]. Lifecycle services margin of 13.3% was down 600 basis points year-over-year. A mid-single-digit sales decline against record segment margins that had no incentive expense in the prior year, drove the decrementals in the quarter.
I want to take a moment to point out the sequential movement we saw in each of our segments. Intelligent Devices had incrementals that were in the 30s from Q2 to Q3, reflecting revenue improvement, cost reduction and margin expansion execution and strong price realization, partially offset by tariff costs, compensation and FX. Software and control sequential incrementals were in the mid-40s, with strong volume, partially offset by higher compensation. Lifecycle Services saw a small sequential dollar changes in both sales and segment earnings with higher compensation being the driver of lower margins.
Overall, for Rockwell, the incremental margin on the sequential sales growth was in the low 30s. This rises to the mid-30s if you exclude tariff-based pricing and cost, which again was EPS neutral. The next Slide, 9, provides the adjusted EPS walk from Q3 fiscal 2024 to Q3 fiscal 2025. Year-over-year, core conversion was close to 60% and contributed $0.35 to our EPS on the 4% organic sales increase. Software & control was the primary driver of both sales and earnings growth in the quarter, where we saw margin expansion on continued improvement in logic sales. Pricing was strong for the company, and we continue to fund new product development with company R&D at 6% of total revenue.
We saw excellent execution on our cost reduction and margin expansion actions, which were above our expectations, resulting in a $0.60 tailwind. You'll see a $0.60 impact from compensation. Our Q3 outperformance and higher guidance for the year brings with it increased incentive expense. As I said earlier, we had no annual bonus expense last year. We expect about $0.30 of compensation costs in Q4. Full year compensation expense, which includes merit and bonus is expected to be about $230 million. Currency with a $0.15 EPS headwind as the timing and movement of exchange rates, particularly in some of our foreign production locations such as Mexico and Poland, created transactional headwinds. All other items resulted in a $0.09 net headwind.
Moving on to the next slide, 10, to discuss our updated guidance for the full year. We narrowed our sales guidance range this quarter, raising the midpoint of our reported sales guidance to a negative [ 15% ] sales decline year-over-year. This reflects a slight increase from our prior organic sales guide, 0.5 point, driven by tariff-based price increases in the second half. The other portion of our sales midpoint guidance increase comes from currency as we now expect the full year FX impact to be neutral to sales and a $0.10 headwind to EPS. Our segment operating margin guidance of about 20% is unchanged.
Last quarter, we talked about low single-digit sequential sales growth in Q3 and high single-digit sequential growth in Q4. With our updated guidance, we expect Q4 will be up low single digits sequentially after a high single-digit sequential increase in Q3. Segment operating margins exceeded expectations for Q3. For Q4, we expect margins to be similar to Q3 on slightly higher revenue with unfavorable mix offsetting the sequential volume leverage. We are updating our adjusted EPS guidance to a range of $9.80 to $10.20 or $10 at the midpoint. The EPS guidance increase reflects our strong operating performance and continued progress on our cost reduction and margin expansion [indiscernible].
Additional comments on fiscal 2025 guidance for your models. Corporate and other expense is expected to be around $155 million. Net interest expense for fiscal 2025 is expected to be about $140 million, and we're assuming average diluted shares outstanding of about 113 million shares. Our share buybacks in Q3 were approximately 500,000 shares in the quarter at a cost of $123 million. As of June 30, approximately $1 billion remains available under our existing share repurchase authorization.
Moving on, I want to expand on a few topics. First, let's talk about tariffs and our assessment of possible pull-in activity. We continue to expect the EPS impact of tariffs for fiscal '25 to be mitigated through resiliency actions and price increases. The EPS impact in the third quarter was close to 0, while about 1 point of our sales growth in Q3 was attributable to tariff-based pricing. With regard to [ Poland ], as Blake mentioned, we are not seeing a notable inflection in underlying customer demand. We have a strong process to identify and address obvious attempts to buy ahead of announced tariff-based price increases and we have canceled some orders as a result. That being said, we think it's possible that pull-ins accounted for at most 2 to 3 points of our growth in the third quarter.
Our thesis for the second half remains intact and we believe any pull-ins that may have happened were largely just Q3, Q4 timing differences. Second, our cost reduction and margin expansion initiative reached a major milestone this past order. This program was initiated midway through our last fiscal year with some very ambitious goals, $100 million of cost savings in the second half of fiscal 2024 and another $250 million of savings in fiscal '25. We exceeded our goal and delivered $110 million of savings in fiscal '24. This year, we [ achieved ] our full year target of $250 million of savings in only 3 quarters. All told, that is $360 million in structural cost savings achieved over 5 quarters. Our team has performed extremely well for the past 1.5 years, and we are all grateful for their efforts. Well done.
At our last Investor Day, we shared our Rockwell operating model. One objective is to operationalize the excellent work of our cost reduction and margin expansion teams. This bridges the gap to take the program from an event and turn it into a way of life. The team is prepared. Now that we have achieved our targets, we are going to transition the tracking of our cost reduction and margin expansion program into core in our reporting structure because by operationalizing this work into our day to day, it is now becoming part of our core.
Finally, let's talk about the next few years and the art of the possible as well as some of the areas where we have developing programs. As Blake shared earlier, we intend to invest $2 billion over the next 5 years. This is inclusive of OpEx and CapEx for plants, digital infrastructure and talent. To be clear, a portion of this will include brick-and-mortar. We will share additional information on our Investor Day in November, but know that each element of this program will have a clear ROI aimed at enhancing competitiveness, expanding margins, and positioning Rockwell for long-term growth. We believe in the power of industrial automation and digital transformation. That's true for our customers. It's also true for us. This investment reflects our conviction.
With our progress on price, productivity and strong operating performance, we are in a good path to reach the segment margin targets we introduced in 2023. We are now focusing on long lead time actions that will help us define and drive the next phase of our operating margin expansion. That's this program, investing today to help expand margins in the future and to help us achieve the next set of goals. Some other items for your long-term model. CapEx as a percentage of sales, which has historically hovered around 2%, could range between 2.5% to 4% in any given year as we make ROI-based decisions on brick-and-mortar, digital infrastructure and capital equipment. R&D spending as a percentage of sales will remain targeted at around 6%. We believe this is important to support our growth engine.
A couple of notes on upcoming tax changes. First, as we have mentioned in the past, we will become subject to Best Pillar 2 in fiscal '26. Current framework could cause our effective tax rate to increase 2 to 3 percentage points in fiscal '26, resulting in an EPS headwind. Second, as it relates to the new U.S. tax bill, we don't expect it to provide significant savings to Rockwell, primarily due to our international structure and minimum tax laws. We do believe, however, that accelerated depreciation can drive investment by our small and medium-sized customers. This is a sweet spot for Rockwell, particularly with the help of our partners.
We delivered 3 solid quarters so far in fiscal '25. That doesn't happen without great execution throughout our organization, great customer relationships and a strong partner network. Those efforts are truly appreciated. Let's have a solid finish to the year.
With that, I'll turn it back to Blake for some closing remarks before we start Q&A.
Thanks, Christian. We're happy to see a return to year-over-year growth, including an improving outlook and some of our largest discrete and hybrid verticals. The leverage from this growth will complement our continued focus on cost discipline, execution, margin expansion. I'm excited to supercharge these efforts by further capturing the benefits of automation and digital transformation within our own operations. It's hard to believe that this year's Automation Fair and Investor Day are only 3 months away, we returned to McCormick Place in Chicago, the week of November 17, with Investor Day activities on November 18 and 19. We're looking forward to showcasing the best solutions and partner network in the business, including software-defined automation an AI-enabled technology from sensor to software, integrated intelligent devices, robotics and digital services. You will hear from customers on our differentiated value and for management as we review progress on our goals, details of our internal investments and inorganic priorities. I'm looking forward to seeing you there.
Aijana will now begin the Q&A session.
Thanks, Blake. [Operator Instructions] Julianne, let's take our first question.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research.
2. Question Answer
It's been a long earnings period. Can we talk about the CapEx stuff because that's a big number for you guys. Historically, you haven't spent a lot of capital. What -- kind of why now? You could -- one side of it might be you could say, are you behind the investment curve as you have to catch up. The other is, are you playing off then. So how do you guys look at it?
Scott, let me start by saying this is solidly on offense. So we are very encouraged by the progress on our productivity programs over the last 1.5 years. And while we continue to be focused near term on getting to those margin goals for each business segment and overall for the company, you've asked us in the past, so what's next? What else can we do to continue to drive this? And we're taking decisive moves to be able to address just that in ways to, of course, address our ongoing capacity needs, but to continue that push to expand margins.
And Christian has talked about the willingness to invest capital in the service of expanding margins, and that's really how you should think about this. And we've talked about our plans, our talent and our digital infrastructure. I want to also make it clear that we're not beginning from a standing start. We've already done this in a number of our operations, but this is accelerating that. And we're encouraged by what we've already seen in some of the places within our plants that we've done these things that we've digitized. We've added additional automation. We've used our own simulation tools to improve layout.
And typically, we see the results show up in labor productivity, being able to do more with a finite amount of human resources. We see it in energy consumption. We see it in faster time to confidence. There's a number of benefits that we've seen in our plants. We certainly are talking about this every day with customers. and now we're doing it at scale. And I could go through the other benefits in each of these areas. We're going to spend some time on this in November at Investor Day. But now is the time because these things have a certain ramp time, and we want you to understand how, as you hear about individual investments, how they fit together as part of this cohesive program.
Maybe a couple of items that I'll add to that. Not all of this $2 billion is incremental. That is -- a portion of that is what's already built in our run rate and our current spending levels that we have on CapEx, for example. And so don't look at it all as incremental. We're including some of the run rate in that. The second part is that these programs, as I mentioned, are all going to be ROI based and that our hurdle rate for these programs is in the double digits. But obviously, those are risk-adjusted based on the program and the project.
But for sure, we are looking for each of these to be giving us an ROI and hopefully, over time, also helping us to expand our margins. The last part actually is around the margins. And just to underscore what Blake said, we do see a path already to getting to the 23.5% target that we have in place from November 2023 at our Investor Day that we put in place and the corridors for each of the segments. This is really about the next horizon. It's about thinking about where can we go over the long term with the business of Rockwell. And as we think about when we're going to achieve that 23.5%, what's that next target going to look like, and we have to create some more runway. And this is a great opportunity for us to do that.
Yes. I think about this as the current programs that we talk about each call give us to that 23.5% operating margin -- these are programs that get us through that -- those margin corridors.
Our next question comes from Andrew Obin from Bank of America.
I know that you're going to talk about at the Analyst Day, but you did sort of highlight some investment headwinds, some tax headwinds. How do you think about just generally about growth into next year? And this recovery basically an operating leverage Trump this? Or does that mean structurally lower growth for the next couple of years?
Yes. Certainly, the top line growth that we'll be prepared to talk about in November is a really important piece of the equation. I'll say we're happy to have returned to year-over-year growth in Q3, and we intend to do everything that we can to continue that. We're encouraged as we talked about with some of the improvement in some of the key verticals within particularly discrete and hybrid, which are areas that are important to us. And we are committed to continue to make progress towards those margin expansion targets regardless of what top line does, and we've certainly contemplated the potential for the headwind that Christian talked about, as we say that.
So we're continuing to forge through and we feel like we're holding some good cards in terms of momentum that allow us to mitigate the impact of some of these other things.
Yes. And just to build off that a little bit more, we do expect we're going to get price next year, the cost reduction and margin expansion programs that we've been working on, while they are going into our core as we operationalize them, we still continue to expect that those programs are going to be giving us a yield. Obviously, the comps get more and more difficult as we continue to build out these programs. And that's okay, but we are expecting that we're going to get margin expansion next year as well. And we'll give you more detail as we get into next quarter on the earnings call.
Yes. And I guess just one last point on that, Andrew, is the tariffs that have been announced, including the more recent ones, we feel like we have strong mitigation plans as we did this year for those tariffs as we go into next year.
And just taking a step back and looking at your broader restructuring program, right, I think you sort of indicated that there is going to be a greater emphasis on continuous improvement versus large restructuring programs, but we did finish quarter early. If you take a step back, has the progress -- where do you find the progress, the easiest if you look at direct material spend sort of supply chain, SKU rationalization, rationalization of transport cost? And where do you feel you've sort of discovered you can push a lot harder? Once again, I appreciate that I was sort of asking you for an Analyst Day preview, but at the same time, you did end up sort of much more efficient on cost cuts than I think were expected.
Yes. I think part of -- and I'm sure Christian will have some additional comment on this. I think part of the feature of the program that allows to get there even quicker than we expected was the breadth of the surface that we went after in terms of cost savings. We certainly had initial savings coming from largely SG&A cost reductions. But we moved pretty quickly into other structural savings, and I'm happy with the way that we saw reductions in what we pay for direct material. That will only improve as volume continues to amplify the per unit savings from that indirect services and manufacturing efficiencies, I would say, to your question, where do we think we can get more manufacturing efficiencies are a big opportunity, and that's why it's an important feature of the program that we introduced today.
Yes. And I think to answer the question and essentially just to build off, but head count reductions are always, frankly, they're hard choices to make, but those can happen faster. And so the point this program developed is not unlike what you would expect. But first of all, starting in SG&A with some head count reductions, and then it expanded into indirect spend, which takes a little bit longer to go after, but we went after that then you start going after things that take a little bit longer lead time and not too bad as far as things like the mode shift and thinking about how we're moving materials around, then we get into product redesigns and working on sourcing.
And then we've now transitioned into more operational excellence in the factories. We're doing a lot more around things like warehouse automation. Things that, again, take a little bit longer lead time. And so all those are outstanding. And I think our experience is that, as Blake said, it's really about doing all of the things and continue to do them well. And importantly in this program as we operationalize it, I think we all are well aware that costs can creep into an organization if you are not vigilant. And so the team really needs to -- we all need to continue to make sure we're vigilant around making sure those costs don't creep back in, and we continue to make good progress.
Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz from Citigroup.
Christian, you reported book-to-bill of 1x, which suggest you'd continue to see slow sequential improvement in bookings as you guided earlier this year. But you did mention the 2% to 3% of pull-ins in Q3. So is the current environment still supportive of underlying bookings continue to slowly improve from here? And then you mentioned a little more greenfield activity, Blake, from your customers and logic sales are obviously up a lot. So do you think that evidence of more reassuring activity or maybe more CapEx-related activity despite delays. How would you -- any more color would be helpful.
Yes. Let me start by saying the projects that we're attracting, we're seeing delays, but not cancellations. People are still looking at these as opportunities to increase their resilience, to make market share moves in general, among our customers, they're just being subject to a higher level of scrutiny. People are looking again and again at the business case to make sure they have a good handle on their cost what the demand picture is and so on.
That being said, when projects do pass that hurdle rate they are being green lit and we've seen greenfields and brownfields. Overall, we expect to see a higher intake of orders related to U.S. capacity in fiscal year '25, and we expect that number to go up again in fiscal year '26. We're tracking it. We're having a good success rate as we look at these and coordinate our coverage around the world. So I'm encouraged by that. And as I mentioned, we saw some nice development in particular, discrete and hybrid verticals, which, of course, is our strength. We've been in automotive for a long time, and we had some nice wins in both basic control as well as in software there.
Food and beverage, our single biggest vertical. Over half of that business is really concentrated through machine builders, especially packaging machine builders and some of our new products are helping us win new business there. So we saw some good results in the quarter. We didn't show it on the slide, but Home & Personal Care we're also seeing some spend there. So we think we're in a good spot, and we're looking forward to as hopefully additional certainty frees up some of that CapEx spend, but we're not waiting. We're continuing to be on offense both in terms of winning every order that is available out there as well as continuing to expand our margins.
On the book-to-bill question, yes, we've been running around one in the last couple of quarters, which is what we were expecting it was going to do as we got into a more normalized environment. So you can read that to be that the backlog is generally flattish. And as we get into Q4, we do have a little bit more seasonal shipments that happen in our project business, especially in the life cycle. So we do give that visibility around book-to-bill and life cycle. It wouldn't be surprising if their book-to-bill went a little bit below 1. But generally, the demand environment and what we're seeing from orders is keeping on with that piece, what we're seeing on the shipment side.
Appreciate that. And then you sound arguably a little more positive about getting to your medium target -- medium-term target of that 23% margin. But maybe if we could just focus on your largest segment for a second of intelligent devices. How do you think about the margin potential in intelligent devices. The segment still in the high teens, but as you guys know, it's delivered low 20s on lower revenue in the past. So what would it take to improve the margin there? Is it kind of what you guys talked about more factory work, SKU reduction. Christian, maybe any thoughts there? Can you turn the corner in that segment as early as FY '26 towards significantly higher margin?
Look, we are absolutely committed to the overall margin target as well as the 22% to 24% corridor that we've talked about specifically for intelligent devices. We're encouraged that the last couple of quarters have seen sequential improvement in margin percentage, but we certainly have lots more work there. And we've identified specific areas. And I'll just -- I'll mention a few and Christian will have some others.
First of all, I mentioned that we saw overall good progress in reducing the cost of what we pay for direct material. And that's especially important for intelligent devices because it is a big business with by far, the largest SKU count. So as we increase unit volume, it's amplified across a broad range of all of those products. The pricing on the long tail of SKUs that we've talked about over the last year is especially important for intelligent devices, again, because they have such a diversity of SKUs in that offering. Project recovery, so the configure-to-order business is particularly leverage to any uptick in CapEx spend, and we'll see some improvement there. And then specifically, Clearpath. I mentioned it in my prepared remarks, we're seeing double-digit growth. We're making progress on profitability, but there's more work to be done there.
Yes. I think, Blake, you covered really a lot of the same items I would have talked about. I mean in the end, it's really -- it's about hitting the individual aspects of this while at the same time, continue to do operational excellence really well. So there's definitely a pathway to it. We definitely have a longer-term plan that we've gone through with the team that shows that we do have the ability to get leverage in this business.
Our next question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays.
Maybe I just wanted to start with the revenue. I'm sorry if it's a bit of a hodgepodge of a question, but I understand, Blake, you mentioned the 2% to 3% pull forward of sales into Q3, but you also referenced a handful of times project delays. And then if I look at Slide 13, you've got 9 markets laid out there, and I think the outlook is lower for 6 of them versus April. So I'm just sort of trying to understand how significant, let's say, were the pull forwards in Q3 versus the project delays effect. And again, the sort of weighting of the market updates on Slide 13 looks perhaps more negative than your overall tone?
Right. So let me break that down just a little bit further. So the potential pull forwards that we highlighted are really in the product side. So if people are going to make a pull-forward purchase, they're going to do that in the product area. And we thought that, while, again, we have good processes to avoid taking orders that are obviously opportunistic, let's say, to avoid a price increase. We think it's prudent to give allowance for the possibility that we did see some pull forward in our product orders. The delays are more on the project side. And you see that primarily in the configure-to-order portion of intelligent devices as well as in life cycle services. So that would be the distribution.
Now as you go through the different verticals, Automotive had a good Q3. We returned to good year-over-year growth. Again, I would look at that as a little bit of that prudence that we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves and saying this is the beginning of a trend. But there was definitely some nice wins within automotive. There's a huge installed base that has to be serviced to be able to continue to keep production running at a good rate. The other vertical that isn't shown in the exhibit is Home & Personal Care that had strong growth year-over-year in the quarter. So you look at that, and I'd say it's a largely balanced view.
And as Christian said, we think that the demand picture hasn't changed too much, but that's somewhat constructive on the product side and again, with continued delays on the projects.
That's very helpful. And then I just wanted to return to the topic of operating margins. Just to understand the confidence in the sort of 23.5% medium-term aspiration. But just trying to understand, say, the next 12 months or into next fiscal year, with the -- your puts and takes or the main tailwind might be aside from volumes, incentive comp. It looks like that's like $1.90 headwind to EPS this year, I think, maybe just confirm that. And then perhaps there's a headwind to margins from some of these higher investments. So when we roll all that together, does that sort of 35% plus operating leverage placeholder. Is that intact largely the next 12 months? Or does it get sort of pushed around by investments or incentive comp flipping around?
Yes. Maybe I'll start, and then Blake can jump into to add any additional color. But we remain committed to the 35% incremental margin flow through. We still believe that we can make these incremental investments, if there are going to be anything that's going to show up incrementally again. We still believe that we can do within the context of the rubric a 35% flow through. When we talk about -- you brought up the incentive comp side, just know that bar chart in the way we reconcile it. That is total comp. So that includes merit as well as incentives. So your -- the number that you're thinking about is probably a little bit high.
I would say that generally, right now, where we are is a fairly normalized number. And so when we think about next year and if we're at a normalized number this year, that we're not expecting that it's going to be too much of a delta for us to deal with as we go into our planning for '26.
Yes. And I would say additionally, Julian, the project spend, CapEx and OpEx, we're in control of that. And so we have the ability to meet around what we're spending in CapEx and OpEx so that we make sure we don't get in the way of those the previously announced targets, and we continue to make good progress towards that. I would also say that the majority of the incremental spend is in CapEx. So in OpEx, a lot of that is reprioritizing dollars that are already in a run rate to the areas that we talked about.
Our next question comes from Chris Snyder from Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to follow up on the pull forward commentary. It seems like from the opening remarks that this was more of a revenue pull forward and not an order pull forward. So if you could just speak to that. And then just any color you could share on the visibility or kind of methodology as to how you arrived at this? I think intuitively, it makes a lot of sense that customers would try to get ahead of price increases. But we really haven't heard this across the rest of our coverage.
Yes. Sure. Chris, we want to be prudent about this. And as we said, there aren't specific examples of orders that we could point to, to say that is a pull forward. As I mentioned, this is mainly in the product area. So with orders and shipments being pretty much on top of each other, book-to-bill across the company of about 1. They're close to the same. What we're not seeing is customers that have longer lead time projects already in-house in our backlog, saying, "hey, we want it quicker or that we want to delay it. So I should make that distinction as well.
And we talk about this because we're not seeing specific indicators. We look at our distributor inventories, and there's nothing unusual going on there. they're placing orders pretty close to a factor of one based on what their orders are that they're receiving and the orders are placing on us, which is healthy. We continue to pull our machine builders and we're not seeing any evidence that they're building up inventories of product. We look at our own behavior. So there's no specific indicators that there's significant pull forward we just want to be prudent as we navigate through a volatile time.
Our next question comes from Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research.
We've got a couple of other grounds. Just want to clarify, Christian, your comments about comp next year because I think I've always thought about no more comps like 1 25, and I think we're going to be at 2 60 this year. So it looks like there could be a nice tailwind for next year. I mean I just want to make sure that's the right thinking. And -- but my real question is really around the $2 billion of investment. Number one, that's not incremental investment. That's total investments. I just want to clarify that. And it seems like probably 2/3 CapEx, 1/3 OpEx would be -- it seems like that's the right split. I just want to verify that? And maybe just touch on what it gives you. It seems like it's more U.S. capacity, more capacity in general, but anything else that these investments will provide.
Sure. I'll start with the comp one and then around the OpEx CapEx portion. So on the compensation side, Nigel, just to -- again, to underscore this. That compensation number that you see in there, and again, we gave a view for the full year at about $230 million. That full year view includes both merit and incentive comp. And so you gave a historical number that -- I think it's in the ballpark, that might have been a little bit high on the number that you gave. But that is -- that would have been more purely incentive comp and not including the merit side. So again, if you just -- if you were to separate those out, we feel like the incentive portion is normalized at the moment.
Yes. And I would say, look, we are proud of having gone through a year with, let's say, flattish overall growth and have returned to a more normal overall spend on compensation. That was something that was important for us to get to this year. And I think it does set us up well as we go into next year.
In terms of the $2 billion, yes, we're going to get into more detail, but I think directionally, you're in the ballpark of that split. And as I said, the majority of the incremental spend is going to be on that CapEx side, in the service of margin expansion. To be sure, there is some additional capacity that this helps with. We do believe that we're able to do these things with a net number of rooftops staying relatively flat. I think that's an important concept that we're not going out and building a lot of incremental rooftops without retiring others.
So we think we have lots of opportunity for additional efficiency in our existing facilities as well as some greenfield investment as well. But the majority of the OpEx spend in these areas is really more about reprioritizing to the areas of highest return.
Julianne, we'll take one more question.
Certainly. Our last question will come from Steve Tusa from JPMorgan.
It sounds like you guys are super busy no vacation this summer. So you've earned the IC bump for sure. Lots going on. good execution. Just a quick question on kind of the updated pricing outlook for what you booked this quarter and then what you expect for the fourth quarter and how that will trend into next year?
Yes. So on the pricing side, we would have started the year, I think we did in the Q4, Q1 call talking about we expected price realization to be around our historical number about 1%. Obviously, the last couple of quarters, we've had price realization more in the 3% range. I think last quarter, I would have talked about 1% to 2% for the full year. Now I think it's very comfortable saying that we're going to be a 2% plus for the fully year this year, which would include a decent portion that happens in the fourth quarter. Keeping in mind that part of that bump is happening from tariff-based price realization, which is not really high-value price realization because it's simply there to offset some costs.
And then for next year?
For next year, I'm not ready to actually give a full update on that. I will tell you that I think the -- outside of the tariff-based price realization, which is going to be whatever it is that generally, we're feeling pretty good about our ability to continue to realize price and that the organization is continuing to find areas and opportunities for us to continue to go after it, not necessarily just from lift to list, but also finding other ways to enhance realization on prior pricing actions.
Okay. And then sorry, just one last one on this U.S. investments you were talking about. You said you booked a few of these in '25. You think they're going to -- there's a few in '26. How kind of close are we to some of these things shaking loose? Like is it as simple as just getting like the headlines more come around tariffs? Or like you guys seem just a little bit more cautious around like the timing of some of this stuff hitting. I think every company is talking about these big pipelines and opportunities. Could this be a first half of next year thing? Or if it comes, it's really going to be more of a second half of next year thing from an orders perspective?
We have a big funnel, and we think that the orders we receive will be significantly larger related to capacity next year than this year. we haven't calendarized first half versus second half. But in general, what people are doing is they're looking at getting to a certain level of cost certainty with respect to the inputs and obviously, tariffs are a portion of that. So think about the automotive. They're thinking about what does their demand look like? And think about, for instance, the chemical industry and oil and gas more commodity-oriented metals, what's their demand looking like. They're also looking at general risk.
And so with machine builders wanting to go to their suppliers and get certainty on pricing as they themselves are putting out quotes that need to be firm to their end users for a period of time. So those are kind of one click below the general uncertainty that people are looking for getting additional confidence in, and we're seeing some of those projects coming out. We booked some big ones across multiple industries. We talked about a few of them, and we expect that to continue in Q4 and into next year.
And hopefully, things settled down with respect to tariffs. We've got a tax bill in place, and that helps. That's going to provide some benefits, particularly for small and medium-sized manufacturers as they see things like bonus depreciation helping them. But some of these other areas with tariffs, I think, will accelerate the release of some of these big capacity orders.
And that is just on a percentage of your business, correct? The new capacity percentage, it's like 15% to 20%. That's kind of how you describe that kind of size of that mix when you talk about big new capacity orders?
Yes. I mean -- we haven't talked about a specific percentage of capacity. But it's a little bit more than it would have been in the past. And some of that is with the new offerings that we have, Things like production, logistics and AMRs are largely tied to CapEx. So it's a little bit more than it was in the past. But we're still largely a flow company.
And I guess the other thing I would say is that whereas a lot of the new capacity initially with in areas like semiconductor and data centers, now we're seeing many more of those orders across areas that Rockwell has higher share in. So think about life sciences and food and beverage and so on.
Great. That concludes today's call. Thank you for joining.
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Rockwell Automation — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
Rockwell Automation — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Reported sales +5% YoY; organisches Wachstum >4% YoY; Währung <1 Prozentpunkt Beitrag.
- Annual Recurring Revenue: ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) +7% YoY, unter den internen Erwartungen.
- Segmentmarge: 21,2% in Q3, über den Erwartungen.
- Adj. EPS: $2,82, Ergebnis beat gegenüber Konsens.
- Free Cash Flow: $489M, +$251M YoY; FCF‑Conversion in Q3 deutlich erhöht.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- $2 Mrd.-Plan: Investition von über $2 Mrd. über 5 Jahre in Werke, digitale Infrastruktur und Talent; Mehrheit CapEx, Schwerpunkt USA, Ziel: Marktanteil und Margenausbau.
- Produktivität: Produktivitätsprogramm erreichte das Ziel von $250M YoY‑Einsparungen ein Quartal früher; Übergang von einmaligen Maßnahmen in "Core"‑Reporting.
- Technologie & AI: Fokus auf Automatisierung in eigenen Anlagen, "AI‑first" Geschäftsprozess und Integration von Software/AMR zur Differenzierung.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Umsatz‑range: Erwartetes full‑year reported und organisch: +1% bis −2% (leichte Erhöhung des Midpoints).
- Margenziel: Full‑year Segmentmarge ~20%; mittelfristiges Ziel: 23,5% operativ (Investor Day Roadmap weiter auszuführen).
- EPS & FCF: Adjusted EPS Guidance $9,80–$10,20 (Mid $10); Free Cash Flow Conversion ~100% für FY25.
- Weitere Annahmen: Erwartete ETR ~17% für FY25; R&D ~6% des Umsatzes; CapEx als % Umsatz kann 2,5–4% variieren; Pillar‑2 könnte ETR in FY26 um 2–3 pp erhöhen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Investitions‑rahmen: Warum jetzt $2 Mrd.? Management: offensiver, ROI‑basiert (Hürden in Doppel‑stelligen); ein Teil ist Run‑Rate, Details im November beim Investor Day.
- Pull‑ins & Nachfrage: Book‑to‑bill ~1, Management sieht mögliche Pull‑ins von 2–3 pp in Q3 (hauptsächlich Produktbestellungen); Projektseite weiterhin Verzögerungen.
- Marginhebel Intelligent Devices: Fokus auf Materialkosten, SKU‑/Produktdesign, Fertigungs‑ und operative Effizienz; Clearpath‑Integration und Pricing als Treiber, aber weitere Arbeit nötig.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Solides Quartal: Umsatz‑ und EPS‑Beat, starke Kostenreduktion und deutlich verbesserte Cash‑Generierung. Management setzt auf beschleunigte CapEx‑Investitionen zur Margenausweitung; kurzfristig steigt Investitions‑ und Timing‑Unsicherheit (Tarife, Steuerreform, Projektverzögerungen). Für Aktionäre: positiv für Margentrend, Wachstum bleibt jedoch vorsichtig und kalenderisiert; wichtige Details folgen beim Investor Day im November.
Rockwell Automation — Wells Fargo Industrials & Materials Conference 2025
1. Question Answer
All right. Good morning, everyone. I'm Joe O'Dea. Really happy to kick off day 3 with Rockwell Automation and Christian Rothe, CFO and Aijana Zellner, who runs IR and market strategy. Thank you so much for being with us this morning.
Thanks for having us. Good morning.
Good to be here.
Good morning. Day 3, right?
Day 3.
Let's start on the demand side and in terms of what seems like resilience on customer spending patterns despite what we're seeing on elevated uncertainty. And so the question is really why? Why have we seen -- it's not the acceleration that maybe we were hoping for, but it's also not necessarily a deterioration that we might have been fearing. So what you're hearing from customers out there on that resilience?
Yes. Maybe I'll split it up in a couple of different pieces. So the first part is that the product side of the business is, it's coming together nicely, and we are definitely seeing an uptick in the demand side for the product portion of our business. And really, those are some of the fundamentals that you would see maybe at the early point of the cycle, right? It's -- we have labor availability issues, labor cost issues, people continue to try to drive efficiency in their operations, especially in the light of uncertainty.
The other portion of it though, that, again, we would hope is going to come together better, but it's not yet is really the capital equipment demand side, the more capital-intensive projects for our customers that uncertainty that I mentioned that is maybe helping a little bit for folks investing, trying to continue to keep their operations running but without larger projects. It's hurting us on larger projects.
And so we're seeing that come through in life cycle services portion of our business as well as the configure-to-order portion of our Intelligent Devices business. So that portion, we still got some runway there. We need to see maybe some of that uncertainty fall away.
And just to dig in on that a little bit more and the demand patterns you've seen in life cycle and the configure to order as we started this year, things were getting a little bit better, right? And we saw it within the PMI trends. And so where are you seeing momentum build in some of the more CapEx-intensive heavier-spend areas and then that paused?
Yes. And let's -- just to frame it, when we talk about the demand side, when we're talking about sort of activity, it's really not the bookings side of it. It's really the quotation side of it. That is whether we're doing a budgetary quote for a customer or we're actually getting farther into a project. That activity level was pretty good as we exited last year and came into this year. And frankly, there's still a bunch of it that's in the works. And so when we talk about a delay in customer delays, it's really delaying them from taking a quotation to an actual booking for us.
So it's not -- so it's definitely showing up in our orders don't have a mistake about that. But it's really about getting them over the finish line. Now at the same time, those customers and in fact, I just was having a conversation this week with some of our leaders, those customers are not abandoning their projects. They're not canceling the projects. There's obviously some modifications that they're doing. They're working hard. Those customers are working hard to try to make sure that there's a great ROI for them, which is exactly what, frankly, you would expect them to do in this moment of uncertainty.
Yes. And I'll just add that the project delays we saw in Q2, a lot of them were centered around automotive and energy. And energy, the life cycle services being a little bit more invest towards process industries, that's where you see that impact on projects and capital intensive projects.
Got it. And then I wanted to talk about revenue mix a little bit and the MRO side versus brownfield, greenfield side and just what the mix is and then what you've seen in those different sleeves?
Sure.
Want to take that one?
Yes, sure. So historically, we've had about 2/3 of our business driven by CapEx and about a 1/3 of it by MRO, right? And within CapEx historically, it's been a lot of brownfield, the brownfield upgrades, expansions. Now more recently, we're seeing more and more greenfield in terms of the projects going forward. But in general, the majority of our business is driven by these big CapEx projects that historically been brownfield. So that's kind of the breakdown what you see with MRO, as Christian mentioned, that's where we saw some good progress in Q2, good flow.
Now there are still projects going on. It's just some of the bigger CapEx projects that are being delayed -- uncertainty. And it really depends on each industry and what's driving the behavior there. Some of it is tariff costs and uncertainty and customers trying to figure out what happens to their global supply chain footprint. Some of it is consumer driven and what's the adoption of certain things? And what's the preference and the macro situation. Some of it is policy, right? If you look at energy and renewables. So some of it is low commodity pricing.
And so there are different drivers for spending and they are different drivers for some of the delay and customers triggering that bigger spend, but we still see very good demand for productivity, efficiency, we talked about it. Even these customers that are in the industries are challenged, automotive or energy. They are spending. They're spending on our autonomous mobile robots. They're spending on our software, they're spending on our cybersecurity services. So they're effectively trying to increase their production capacity by increasing their throughput, reducing quality issues and being more efficient.
And on the greenfield side of things, and where you're seeing a little bit of activity there, just in terms of the verticals, I mean, I know you've raised the outlook for things like warehouse and e-commerce, but just where those verticals are that are seeing some of the greenfield activity?
Yes, you're right. So we increased our outlook for several industries in our fiscal Q2. E-commerce and warehouse automation is doing -- is continuing to be a very strong vertical for us. It is a combination of e-commerce as an industry and also warehouse automation as an application across many industries.
And we see a combination of greenfield and brownfield investments in that bucket. E-commerce, we do see after a period of digestion in fiscal '24, we see more build out of new fulfillment centers, so it's a greenfield. When you look at warehouse automation broadly and a lot of companies, whether it's parcel companies, whether it's traditional retailers that are trying to upgrade their existing warehouses, modernize them. They want to either catch up with their competitors or leapfrog them, that's a lot of brownfield. There's a lot of -- and there's a lot of core automation we provide there. So our logic controllers, our drives, our software. So we are seeing both of those firing on all cylinders right now.
And in addition to that, we see some business with data centers. It's not a big part of our revenue, but we do have some exposure to the power distribution side of the data center business through our acquisition of Cubic and that's growing strong double digits, and we expect that to be a durable demand. So that bucket is a combination of greenfield and brownfield.
Life science is another industry where we saw a good performance better than we expected in the quarter, and we increased our outlook for the full year. And that's where we see also a combination of greenfield and brownfield investments. And then there are some parts of process industries where a lot of it is -- it's not necessarily a greenfield investment, but a lot of upgrades, a lot of aging equipment, aging infrastructure that needs to be updated, that you have to have efficiency, you have to have ability to tender more data and security. So we see kind of across the board.
If you take your own spend plans as an example, are there a number of projects that you'd like to move forward on, but given a little bit of uncertainty out there, you're trying to choose the right timing. And so just to get a sense of customers are spending, like you said, but we're trying to think about the wave of spend that could be held back right now and moving forward? And do you kind of have that playbook?
Yes. I mean there's definitely a number of factors when you're looking at projects inside an organization that you look at. And absolutely, there are changing dynamics, the things that are in your control and things that are outside of your control. The things that are outside your control are the frustrating ones. And so yes, there's -- obviously, we have resiliency in our organization. We are using some of that resiliency to try to avoid some of these costs that are coming in. But there's other things that we potentially can make some investment in to try to avoid some of those costs, which is fine. But are you doing it for a temporary purpose or a long-term purpose? And how do you think about it from the perspective of whether or not that's a large investment. And can we really dig deep roots with that? Or are we doing it for a really transitory reason.
And so that absolutely goes into the decision-making process. And the honest truth is that if it feels like it's a temporary thing, we go back and we do our work another time through or 3x through or 5x through just to make sure that we are going to get the ROI on our investment and that usually ends up with some modifications to the project. But underlying the whole thing, the notion, the underlying reason why we wanted to do it to begin with. It's not just typically driven by those outside forces. It's driven by something on the inside that we really are driving towards. So whether it be new market growth or going after assisting some of our new product development launches, those kind of things. And so it starts at its core with good strategy.
But then again, some of these other factors can be really influential to it which is really where you were going with the question, which is, well, is that happening with your customers? And I think absolutely, that's happening with our customers.
And when you talk about the pent-up nature of demand that's out there and you talk about aging equipment and replacing it, like are they just getting to a point where you can't push it out anymore. Are you experiencing any of that?
Yes, I think that's part of what -- again, what we would do in our own organization, which is, hey, we really were interested in doing this. And maybe we're not going to be in a position where we want to invest millions of dollars because of all these other uncertainty factors. But you do get a little bit hooked on, okay, but this was a great opportunity for us. Are you sure there's not something else we can do -- to turn and so you modify it and either downsize it or you change it in a different way to try to ensure that you can still go after the original objective.
Then shifting to the tariff discussion. Just walk us through kind of the sizing of those costs, how that's developed over the course of the last couple of months in addition to what we're seeing on steel and aluminum in the latest there?
Yes. So the -- at our Q2 call, I would have given an update around what our second half costs were for fiscal '25, that number at that moment in time with the data points that were available at that moment in time was $125 million of headwind, and we were in a position to recover on that from an EPS perspective via supply chain works, workarounds as well as pricing recovery.
That since then has changed, obviously, with some of the China tariffs moving around a little bit. So that number went from $125 million down to $70 million, maybe to put it in context around what drives that $70 million. It's about $20 million that is from Canada and Mexico that is non-U.S. MCA compliant. There's a little bit of work that we can do there to try to help that -- some of it is -- it's going to be hard to be able to make it compliant.
There's about $20 million that is related to China, both -- going both directions and then $15 million that is related to recently acquired businesses that are different impacts from an organizational perspective, right? Those customers tend to be a little more focused in certain verticals. So we're working through some of those and then $15 million through a variety of other factors, a portion of which is steel and aluminum tariffs. It's still a relatively small number for us.
So now your next question is, okay, that $70 million, that was the number that we were given, I don't know, 3, 4 weeks ago. So after the China matters, but before the changes on the steel and aluminum tariff that we recently saw. So again, relatively minor. We're not giving out exactly what that number is, partially because it wasn't just taking that tariff number up, but there were a couple of other subsections in there that requires some -- a little bit more analytics on our side. But again, it's not a huge number for us. It's definitely -- in the grand scheme, even that $70 million, it's relatively immaterial.
And then when we see headline figures like 145% tariffs, we think about what kind of price impact does that mean customers are going to have to absorb, but is also kind of spreading at a -- any perspective on some of the largest price increases that you've had to put in place in response to tariffs?
Yes. So the approach that we're taking on tariffs is that we are when we're recovering with price, we're trying to be fairly surgical in our approach to it. That is we have just under 1,000 product family codes that we use inside the organization for our 300,000-plus SKUs. In -- with various tariffs when we're making changes, we might impact price on 75 to 150 different product families just again, depending on where the product is coming from and all the shipping methods that we're using.
And so that is, again, a fairly narrow group and we try to be, again, strategic around what we're doing with regional pricing even. So generally, I would say that most of our price changes related to tariffs have been in the kind of low single digit, mid-single-digit range. There are a few that are higher than that. And the ones that are higher than that are areas where we look things like non-US MCA compliant that have a margin profile that are -- that is not as favorable as some of our base business. So if you have a higher cost, obviously, and it's tariffed, then you have a bigger lift on the price recovery, but those are fairly minimal in the grand scheme of things for us. And I would think of it more like configure-to-order type of product, where it's more project related. And so we can build that in relatively easily.
And anything on rare earth elements in terms of exposure, and it seems like maybe we're seeing a little bit better environment in the latest stuff. But just your exposure there, any supply chain considerations for you?
Yes. I mean rare earths are -- I don't think you're having any industrial at this conference that would tell you that we have no rare earth, right? It's there. We all have it. And so if rare earth never come out of China ever again, then we're all in trouble for a variety of reasons. And so it's probably just as much of a concern for us around our customer base and what it means for our customers than it is for us in our own business. .
That being said, our team -- our supply chain team did a pretty good job trying to get ahead of things. And so we've got some buffer there. But again, if we never get any rare earth ever again, we'll have a problem just as will our customers. So there -- it's not a huge portion of the spend, but it can be critical on certain components and products.
And then I wanted to shift to cycle and with the amount of pricing that was required over the last number of years, trying to think about the volume side of the cycle. And so when we look at, let's say, '24 versus 2019 and think about kind of ITD and think about software and control, anywhere from kind of 10% to 17% growth between those 2 segments, if you look over that entire period of time. I would imagine a pretty significant amount of that is price related. And so where are we on the volume side when we think about the cycle? And where are we strong on the volume side and conversely, a little bit softer?
Yes. So maybe I'll start, and Aijana can jump in. First of all, I appreciate talking about over a 5-year window. So often, folks get focused on year-over-year. For me, I'm a big believer in CAGRs. I believe that when you think about evaluating performance for us as an organization, frankly, for salespeople, for distributor partners for all sorts of things. It's really about the multiyear stack, and it's about the CAGRs that you get over a longer period of time, right? Anybody can have an easy comp from the prior year and post a big number. But having a really solid number over a longer period of time, that's really how I tend to think. So I appreciate the way you're thinking about it.
So that being said, when you talk about intelligent devices and software and control, I think the math you did was a 10% growth. Again, that's not a CAGR, right? 10% growth for intelligent devices kind of from '19 to '24, '17 was for software and control. And you're absolutely right. Most of that is pricing. And so the end answer is that we are down in volume in both of those businesses compared to 2019. And we did talk about on our Q2 call, that the Logix business and our Logix product category, which is upwards of half of the software and control business, it is still below 2019 levels as well. So when you think about the runway then that we have in those businesses, both of them have a fair bit of runway on the volume side, which is good. Now I think you asked about mix as well in there from...
Let's go to mix. Yes.
Yes. So the mix side on software control has adjusted somewhat over time just because we've done a number of transaction acquisitions that have added more software to our portfolio, which is a good thing. It's given us a little bit better growth rate. That growth rate is part of the reason why you have that 17% versus the 10% for intelligent devices. So software and control is -- has a mix that is, again, a pretty good mix between the software portion and what is Logix and the product side.
When you talk about intelligent devices, we've been talking about even this morning around how the capital equipment environment is a more difficult one with the uncertainty that's uncertainty overhang. And so that is impacting the CTO business configure-to-order. And so while the product portion of Intelligent Devices volumes are down from 2019, the configure-to-order portion is even a bigger drag.
That's helpful. If you have a question, just raise your hand and I'll get to you. Let's talk about margins. We'll do it segment by segment. So I ITD, I think you're on pace, like back half of this year, it looks like it would be tracking. We'll do the 5-year thing again a little bit below like '18, '19 level. Talk about, again, like the mix side of things, the acquisitions that have come into the portfolio as well as just the cost burden of an inflationary environment as we think about where you are today on margins versus then?
Probably I could talk about this one for a while. But -- so intelligent devices, you're right. We -- the momentum is good, right? We've got some margin expansion that's happened over the last a couple of quarters, which is great and optimism for the remainder of the year. But even for the full year, we're going to be down on the volume side year-over-year -- sorry, down on sales year-over-year, which obviously is also translating to volume. And so the -- that definitely is a pressure point for us. When you put it against that 2019 time frame, to put it in context, if I were to think about 2025 sales dollars and where we're tracking, you just take some numbers and annualize them, we're going to be ahead of 2019 from a sales dollar perspective.
But that gap up is really acquisition-related. So in particular, the ClearPath and Cubic transactions. Both of those are dilutive to margins. And so that would be the biggest driver around what's happening with the margin profile from intelligent devices from kind of that '19 to '24, '25 time frame. To put it a different way, yes, we've gotten price that is essentially offsetting the volume. And so then there's the -- and there's definitely been an inflationary environment. Price cost has not necessarily been the best during that time frame. That's part of the reason why we are in the midst of a margin expansion and cost reduction activity right now. Intelligent Devices being one of the largest beneficiaries of that.
There's a good opportunity there. We have a corridor that we're targeting of 22% to 24% segment operating margin for that business. That is a -- that is a 2 and through kind of number. That is -- it's not a ceiling. So when we want to run after it and achieve it and then after we do, we'll talk about the next step.
When you think about that 22% to 24% or software and control 31% to 34%, the path there, any kind of dimensioning of how much of that is self-help? How much of that is volume dependent?
Yes. Definitely, volume dependency is there, right? I don't think we can do it without volume coming back even to the 2019 or better kind of levels. But the self-help program is a good one. And it's today, where we are right now where we've taken a bunch of costs out, and I'm sure we'll probably talk about this in more detail. It started with more SG&A-related expenses.
But now we're really digging into things that are more cost of goods sold related. And that really, again, that happens in waves. The first couple of waves have been more focused on logistics costs, direct material costs. But I think as we continue to mature the program, you're going to see us do things more around operational efficiency, which is outstanding.
Shifting to channel inventory and some of the distortions we saw in '23 and '24. And I'm sure it's not a perfect science in terms of sizing. But any perspective as you've evaluated that on what you saw from the magnitude of channel inventory stocking contribution to growth and in particular, in '24, what that contribution was to the organic declines?
Yes. So I think the story actually goes back to '22. And obviously, I wasn't at Rockwell at the time, but I certainly have been studying kind of some of what happened. And I think that's important to know that history. So as we think about forecasting, we think about trying to make sure that we don't have some of these matters happen to us again that we should be really cognizant of how it came together and what levers we would pull, having perfect information in hindsight.
And so it really -- it started back in '22 supply chain crisis. Their demand levels had increased dramatically. And so there was already a ramp that was happening then. That was driving a larger backlog. And of course, as we all know, the supply chain crisis happened and things started self-perpetuating, right? And so you can't deliver or lead times go up, people have to order more because they don't want to get stuck, blah, blah, blah. And so that really developed. It started in '22, built late '22 and then developed during the course of '23.
And '23 is kind of where we peaked out on our incoming orders. And then started to crater on the incoming orders as we exited '23 and went into '24, but we were shipping off of a heck of a lot of backlog all the way through, frankly, the first 1.5 quarters, maybe 2 quarters of fiscal '24. So there was a lot of backlog reduction that happened even in, let's say, 15, 18 months ago.
So the -- and then, of course, then generated the high inventory levels in our channel. And so the high inventory levels in our channel then had to work their way down. That really was the second half let's say, Q2 to Q4 event for fiscal '24. So there was a lot of movement that occurred during that time frame. And this is my really long answer of not giving you an answer.
So dimensionalizing is -- I have views around the dimensions around it just because I can see -- I have visibility to what the actual distributor inventory levels were. It was definitely material. And it was -- it really did move things around a fair bit. So -- and we did go back and do some analytic work around, okay, if they hadn't had the overstock, what would demand have actually looked like for us based on what their demand was. The good news is, is that they did not have -- while it may have looked like we went through a serious trough period around a lack of demand. The demand on them actually was relatively good during that time frame.
Well, the good news now is we're largely done with this destocking. And so now we don't have to worry about that buffer, right, that suppressing that underlying demand.
Switching to the software side. I think there's a fair amount of focus on required investments in software and more on competitive positioning. So just talk about your approach to software and in particular, your competitive positioning there?
Do you want to do that?
Sure. We have been investing intentionally with speed and urgency in our software portfolio. We are -- really, we have built out a leading portfolio of scalable and flexible software, both on-prem and cloud native over the years. And in the space where we play in, the space of production design and production automation, we think our portfolio is second to none.
And if you look at how we approach it, we look at the customer investment life cycle. So from the design of their systems and plants to operating them and run time and then maintaining them and then upgrading them and throughout the entire life cycle we have a leading portfolio of both on-prem and cloud native software offerings. So we can meet customers where they are. And depending on what their use cases, which plant they're trying to optimize or what they're trying to do, we have leading offerings.
So we've invested in R&D. We've developed on the design side, industry first cloud-native design environment, which certainly gives us a leg up in terms of how we develop, how we optimize and also helps us with our generative AI offerings and capabilities as well. We look at operating and maintenance fees, as I mentioned, we bought companies like Plex and Fiix, leading cloud-native companies that actually have these offerings at scale. So that's helping us really penetrate and help customers drive more productivity, even more yield, even across industries that are already pretty automated today.
So if you look at acquisitions, this is where we buy these companies in that space. Some of our competition is investing quite a bit in other areas of software from a technology stack standpoint in areas like product life cycle management or computer-aided design or EDA. These are not the areas that we play. And so while it may seem like there's a lot of activity in the software acquisition space, that's not the area that we view as strategic to our growth momentum.
Got it. And I should have asked this earlier, but related to the acquisitions comment when you talk about something like ClearPath and Cubic and you think about the margins getting better. What kind of margin trajectory do they have in front of them for how long might that be a drag on segment margin?
Yes. So ClearPath is an interesting one from -- when we bought that business, we were very clear that, that was a loss-making business when we bought it, and that the target is for it to be breakeven in fiscal '20 -- to be profitable in fiscal '26. And so next year is a big year for them. So I do love moments where you go from a negative earnings number to a positive earnings number because it actually does -- you get a little bit of a double up benefit.
So the expectation is that they do go into profitability and they continue to drive their profitability much higher. That's really a revenue gain, right? It's got to be driven by leverage on the P&L because we have a great infrastructure in place. The infrastructure is oversized for the volume of the business that we have today, which is fine because the growth rate is great. It's a double-digit grower. And that's the reason why we bought it, and we believe that it's a great solution for our customers.
On the Cubic side, Cubic is a business that because it is capturing a lot of growth opportunities right now. We need to continue to invest more heavily in that business, and that's brick-and-mortar as well as OpEx for the business. And so we're committed to it. We like the runway in that business. And as long as we can continue to drive that growth, I think we're going to be willing to continue to invest.
Now a lot of the CapEx investment is mostly behind us. it's really now about trying to get it to be fully optimized. And so that does have an opportunity to bring a better margin profile in the near term than maybe ClearPath does because, again, ClearPath coming from a lower position in that.
And then on acquisitions, you've talked about a pause. How long do you think about a pause being in place?
Obviously, our balance sheet is in a good spot. So it's not necessarily a pause from a capital deployment perspective. It's more of a pause with regard to -- we wanted to make sure that we did a really good job integrating these businesses. And when you think about integrating the businesses, don't think about it like, hey, we've got them on our back office systems. We've got them -- so they're the functional areas are reporting to the right folks and that we've harmonized benefits, all that kind of stuff but those are relatively easy. The opportunity for these businesses is instead to put them into the broader Rockwell portfolio to put it under that umbrella of the assistance for and the expertise around the production environment and bringing this whole host of solutions, the ways to win to those customers.
And that's what we're talking about when we're talking about putting the entirety of this together and integrating these businesses. And that's -- it's a great opportunity for us. The team has done a really good job. We've got a little bit more work to do.
Now if the right transaction came around today, we'd be looking at it. We've got an active pipeline that we're working this moment, it happened to be timing-wise good for us, we were taking a pause because, frankly, not a lot of deals were getting done over the last 12 months anyways for a lot of other reasons. So that -- the uncertainty in the market also created a lot of uncertainty in the M&A market. So it hasn't really hurt us all that much. But I think we're going to see more and more transactions start to come through just in the broader industrial universe, and Rockwell is open to participating again with the discipline around, we want to be focused on that production environment.
And then you've talked about on the CapEx side and willingness to invest a little bit more and talk about an asset-light model, expand on that a little bit? And then what that would mean from a spend dollar? What it would mean for the percent of COGS that's sourced versus made just in terms of understanding the magnitude of this kind of change?
Sure. So yes, historically, Rockwell has been an asset-light organization. And I'm not saying anything that is a big surprise to folks. If you looked at Rockwell for quite some time, you would notice that their CapEx spend is relatively modest. But on top of that, if you look at our balance sheet, there's a -- we don't have a ton of assets on our balance sheet. So the -- and that's a philosophy that works for a number of organizations. At the same time, we are still at our core, we're an industrial company that manufactures a lot of stuff. And what we do as a business and how we actually sell to our customers is we sell to people that make things in a lot of cases. So there's no reason why we shouldn't also be investing in ourselves to make our things.
And so there's a shift inside the organization that's happening right now, where we are looking to be a little bit more asset intensive. And to put that in context, okay, historically, we've been about a 2% sales CapEx spender. Does that number go up to 3%? Potentially. But it's again -- it's really driven by the ROI that we get on those investments. And the opportunities coming out of the cost reduction and margin expansion work that we've done, where we have really gone heavier after our spend, our direct material spend. And that's okay because when you're asset-light, you've got a larger direct material spend because you're actually spending with outside parties that are doing a number of things for you. But the more we look at it, the more we see opportunities to bring things in-house that is, do the buy-to-make analysis and start to do some of those things for ourselves.
Essentially, spending some CapEx dollars, maybe a little bit of OpEx dollars, but we're doing it to get a yield by removing other people from our profit pool. And so we want to bring them in, bring those things in and push those other parties out and hopefully use that to expand margins over time. And that's just one aspect of it.
Again, asset-light, you're probably not going to invest as much as you would in your facilities. Even though we are an automation company, we have still a pretty good runway on doing more automation, even again, we're more of a light assembly kind of operator today. And those assembly operations continue to be automated, which is great.
Great discussion. Thank you very much for being here. Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you all. Appreciate it.
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Rockwell Automation — Wells Fargo Industrials & Materials Conference 2025
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🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzfassung: Rockwell sieht Nachfrage-Resilienz: Produktgeschäft und MRO laufen besser, größere CapEx‑Projekte (Kapitalausgaben, CapEx) bleiben wegen Unsicherheit verzögert; Kanal-Destocking größtenteils abgeschlossen.
- Auswirkung: Umsatzmix verschiebt sich kurzfrstig zugunsten produktnaher Verkäufe und Services, während größere Projekte weiter Zeit brauchen.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Produkt & Service: Zunehmende Nachfragemomentum bei Standardprodukten, Autonomous Mobile Robots, Software und Cybersicherheit; Life‑Cycle‑Services stabil.
- Software‑Fokus: Investitionen in Cloud‑native Design‑Umgebung, Generative‑AI‑Funktionalität und R&D; Zukäufe (z.B. Plex/Fiix) stärken Run‑time/ Maintenance-Angebot.
- M&A & Integration: Integration von ClearPath (Break‑even‑Ziel FY26) und Cubic; temporäre "Pause" für weitere Käufe, aber aktive Pipeline und Disziplin bleibt.
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- Tarif‑Headwind: Aktualisierte Schätzung: etwa $125M → rund $70M Headwind (Aufschlüsselung: ~ $20M Kanada/Mexiko, ~ $20M China, ~ $15M Akquisitionen, Rest u.a. Stahl/Alu).
- Margen‑Ziel: Intelligent Devices: korridor 22–24% Segment‑Operative Marge; Software & Control: 31–34%.
- CapEx‑Politik: Leicht verschobene Haltung: historisch ~2% des Umsatzes, mittelfristig Spielraum Richtung ~3% bei klarem ROI.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Nachfragemuster: Kritische Nachfrage zu Unterschieden zwischen Angebots‑ (Quotes) und Auftragslage; Management: viele Zitate bleiben offen, Kunden verschieben Abschluss, nicht stornieren.
- Tarife & Preise: Nachfrage zu Preisweitergaben; Antwort: gezielte Preisanpassungen auf Produktfamilien, meist low‑ bis mid‑single‑digit.
- Channel & Volumen: Diskussion über Kanal‑Overstock aus 2022/23; Management: Destocking größtenteils abgeschlossen, Volumen‑Runway vorhanden, CTO (configure‑to‑order) stärker belastet.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Investment‑Takeaway: Kurzfristig defensive Umsatzdynamik (Produkt/Service > große CapEx‑Projekte). Strukturmaßnahmen, Software‑Investitionen und Integration von Zukäufen liefern mittelfristig Hebel für Margen und Wachstum; makro‑/tarif‑Risiken bleiben taktische Unsicherheitsfaktoren.
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der EBIT-Marge.
Nettogewinn
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| Mär '26 |
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%
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| Umsatz | 8.804 8.804 |
10 %
10 %
100 %
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| - Direkte Kosten | 4.179 4.179 |
14 %
14 %
47 %
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| Bruttoertrag | 4.625 4.625 |
49 %
49 %
53 %
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| - Vertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten | 1.925 1.925 |
0 %
0 %
22 %
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| - Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten | 1.031 1.031 |
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12 %
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| EBITDA | 1.644 1.644 |
1 %
1 %
19 %
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| - Abschreibungen | 324 324 |
25 %
25 %
4 %
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| EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis) EBIT | 1.320 1.320 |
10 %
10 %
15 %
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| Nettogewinn | 1.086 1.086 |
20 %
20 %
12 %
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Angaben in Millionen USD.
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Rockwell Automation, Inc. ist im Bereich der industriellen Automatisierung und Informationsdienste tätig. Das Unternehmen ist in den folgenden Segmenten tätig: Architektur und Software sowie Steuerungsprodukte und -lösungen . Das Segment Architektur und Software enthält Hardware-, Software- und Kommunikationskomponenten seiner integrierten Steuerungs- und Informationsarchitektur, die in der Lage sind, die industriellen Prozesse des Kunden zu steuern und eine Verbindung mit seinem Unternehmen herzustellen. Das Segment Steuerungsprodukte und -lösungen kombiniert ein Portfolio intelligenter Motorsteuerungs- und Industriesteuerungsprodukte, Anwendungsexpertise und Projektmanagementfähigkeiten. Das Unternehmen wurde 1928 gegründet und hat seinen Hauptsitz in Milwaukee, WI.
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| Hauptsitz | USA |
| CEO | Mr. Moret |
| Mitarbeiter | 26.000 |
| Gegründet | 1903 |
| Webseite | www.rockwellautomation.com |


