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📘 Marktkapitalisierung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Marktkapitalisierung zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen laut Börse aktuell wert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft Unternehmen in Größenklassen (Large, Mid, Small Cap) einzuordnen und gibt Hinweise auf Marktmacht und Stabilität.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Große Unternehmen gelten als stabiler, zahlen oft Dividenden, wachsen aber langsamer.
- Kleine Firmen können stärker wachsen, sind aber schwankungsanfälliger.
- Die Marktkapitalisierung ist ein guter Indikator für Unternehmensgröße, aber kein Maß für Unter- oder Überbewertung.
📘 Enterprise Value (Unternehmenswert)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Enterprise Value (EV) zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich kostet, wenn man es komplett übernehmen würde – inklusive Schulden und abzüglich Cash.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
(= Marktkapitalisierung + Nettoverschuldung)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der EV ist eine realistischere Bewertungsbasis als die Marktkapitalisierung, da er die Kapitalstruktur berücksichtigt. Er ist Grundlage für Kennzahlen wie EV/FCF oder EV/Sales.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Der Enterprise Value zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich wert ist – unabhängig davon, wie es finanziert ist.
- Er ist besonders wichtig für professionelle Investoren, da er eine objektivere Grundlage für Bewertungsvergleiche bietet als die Marktkapitalisierung allein.
- Ein Unternehmen mit hoher Verschuldung erscheint im EV teurer, eines mit viel Cash günstiger – auch wenn sie an der Börse gleich viel wert sind.
📘 Nettoverschuldung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettoverschuldung zeigt, wie viele Schulden nach Abzug des verfügbaren Cashs tatsächlich verbleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen von Fremdkapital abhängig ist – und wie gut es in der Lage ist, seine Schulden kurzfristig zu bedienen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige oder negative Nettoverschuldung bedeutet hohe finanzielle Stabilität.
- Unternehmen mit viel Cash und geringer Verschuldung sind besser gerüstet für Krisen.
- Eine hohe Nettoverschuldung erhöht das Risiko – besonders bei steigenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
📘 Cash
📈 Was ist das?
Der Cashbestand zeigt, wie viele liquide Mittel einem Unternehmen sofort zur Verfügung stehen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Er gibt Auskunft über die finanzielle Flexibilität: Ein hoher Cashbestand ermöglicht Investitionen, Rückkäufe oder Krisenresistenz.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Cashbestand zeigt finanzielle Stärke und Handlungsspielraum.
- Cash kann für Investitionen, Schuldentilgung oder Aktienrückkäufe genutzt werden.
- Allerdings: Zu viel ungenutztes Kapital kann auch auf mangelnde Investitionsideen hinweisen.
📘 Anzahl ausstehender Aktien
📈 Was ist das?
Die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien gibt an, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell im Umlauf sind und von Investoren gehalten werden.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die Grundlage für viele Kennzahlen wie Gewinn je Aktie (EPS), Marktkapitalisierung oder KGV.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Je weniger Aktien im Umlauf sind, desto höher fällt z. B. der Gewinn je Aktie aus – wichtig für Bewertung und Dividendenrendite.
- Aktienrückkäufe verringern die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien – und steigern den Wert je Aktie.
- Kapitalerhöhungen haben den gegenteiligen Effekt: mehr Aktien → Verwässerung der bestehenden Anteile.
📘 Kurs-Gewinn-Verhältnis (KGV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KGV zeigt, wie oft der Gewinn pro Aktie im aktuellen Aktienkurs enthalten ist – also wie „teuer“ eine Aktie im Verhältnis zum Gewinn ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KGV gehört zu den bekanntesten Bewertungskennzahlen. Es hilft Anlegern einzuschätzen, ob eine Aktie im Vergleich zu ihrem Gewinn eher günstig oder teuer erscheint.
🧮 Berechnung
📊 KGV (TTM) = bezogen auf den Gewinn der letzten 12 Monate (Trailing Twelve Months):🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KGV kann auf eine günstige Bewertung hindeuten – oder auf Probleme im Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein hohes KGV kann Wachstumserwartungen widerspiegeln – oder eine überbewertete Aktie.
📘 Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis (KUV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KUV zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen – unabhängig vom Gewinn.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KUV ist besonders bei wachstumsstarken oder noch nicht profitablen Unternehmen hilfreich. Es zeigt, wie hoch der Umsatz an der Börse bewertet wird.
🧮 Berechnung
Marktkapitalisierung = 146,53 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 39,66 Mrd. $
Marktkapitalisierung = 146,53 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 39,79 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KUV kann auf Unterbewertung hindeuten – oder auf schwache Margen.
- Ein hohes KUV kann hohe Erwartungen widerspiegeln – oder übermäßigen Optimismus.
- Besonders sinnvoll bei Wachstumsunternehmen, bei denen der Gewinn oder Free Cashflow (noch) keine Aussagekraft hat.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Umsatz (EV/Sales)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/Sales zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen, wenn man auch Schulden und Cash berücksichtigt – es ist eine kapitalstrukturbereinigte Version des KUV.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl eignet sich besonders für den Vergleich von Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Verschuldung – sie zeigt, wie teuer ein Unternehmen tatsächlich im Verhältnis zum Umsatz ist.
🧮 Berechnung
Enterprise Value = 170,87 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 39,66 Mrd. $
Enterprise Value = 170,87 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 39,79 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EV/Sales ist neutral gegenüber der Kapitalstruktur und eignet sich gut für Unternehmensvergleiche.
- Ein niedriges Verhältnis kann auf eine günstig bewertete Aktie hindeuten – ein hohes Verhältnis auf hohe Erwartungen oder Überbewertung.
- Besonders nützlich bei wachstumsstarken, noch nicht profitablen Firmen.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Free Cashflow (EV/FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/FCF zeigt, wie viele Jahre es dauern würde, bis ein Unternehmen seinen Unternehmenswert durch freien Cashflow „zurückverdient”.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Unternehmen auf Basis ihrer tatsächlichen Cash-Erträge zu bewerten – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder buchhalterischem Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges EV/FCF deutet auf eine günstige Bewertung bei starker Cashgenerierung hin.
- Ein hohes EV/FCF kann entweder auf Optimismus oder auf temporär schwachen Cashflow hindeuten.
- Besonders hilfreich bei reifen, profitablen Unternehmen mit stabilen Cashflows.
📘 Kurs-Buchwert-Verhältnis (KBV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KBV zeigt, wie hoch der Marktwert eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zu seinem bilanziellen Eigenkapital ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KBV ist besonders bei Substanzwerten (z. B. Banken, Industrie) relevant. Es hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob ein Unternehmen unter oder über seinem buchhalterischen Vermögen bewertet ist.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein KBV unter 1 kann auf Unterbewertung oder schwache Rentabilität hindeuten.
- Ein KBV über 1 zeigt, dass der Markt dem Unternehmen Mehrwert über den Buchwert hinaus zuschreibt (z. B. Marken, Patente, Wachstum).
- Das KBV eignet sich besonders gut für Unternehmen mit stabilen, materiellen Vermögenswerten.
📘 Dividende je Aktie
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividende je Aktie zeigt, wie viel Geld ein Unternehmen pro Aktie an seine Aktionäre ausschüttet – typischerweise jährlich oder quartalsweise.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die absolute Größe der Auszahlung je Aktie – wichtig für alle, die regelmäßige Erträge suchen oder Dividendenstrategien verfolgen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile oder wachsende Dividende je Aktie ist oft ein Zeichen für ein solides Geschäftsmodell.
- Die Dividende je Aktie allein sagt aber nichts über die Rendite – dafür ist auch der Aktienkurs relevant (→ Dividendenrendite).
- Langfristig steigende Dividenden sind oft ein sehr gutes Merkmal (z. B. Dividenden-Aristokraten).
📘 Dividendenrendite
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividendenrendite zeigt, wie hoch die Dividende eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zum Aktienkurs ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft dabei, Dividendenaktien vergleichbar zu machen – unabhängig vom absoluten Auszahlungsbetrag.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile Dividendenrendite kann auf verlässliche Ausschüttungen hinweisen.
- Ein Vergleich der 1J- und 5J-Rendite hilft zu erkennen, ob das Dividendenwachstum mit dem Kurswachstum Schritt hält.
- Eine niedrige Rendite ist nicht zwingend negativ – sie kann auf starkes Kurswachstum hindeuten.
📘 Dividendenwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Dividendenwachstum zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen seine Dividende je Aktie über die Zeit gesteigert hat.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
5J: durchschnittliche jährliche Wachstumsrate (CAGR)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Stetig steigende Dividenden gelten als Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und Aktionärsorientierung – besonders interessant für langfristige Investoren.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein stabiles Dividendenwachstum ist ein Zeichen nachhaltiger Ertragskraft.
- Ein hohes Dividendenwachstum kann ein erheblicher Hebel deiner Rendite sein:
- Wenn ein Unternehmen z. B. 1 € Dividende zahlt und diese über 5 Jahre jährlich um 15 % erhöht, bekommst du im 5. Jahr bereits 2 € je Aktie – doppelt so viel wie zu Beginn!
📘 Ausschüttungsquote (Payout)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Ausschüttungsquote zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Unternehmensgewinns (pro Aktie) als Dividende an die Aktionäre ausgeschüttet wird.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Quote hilft einzuschätzen, ob eine Dividende auf Dauer tragfähig ist – besonders im Verhältnis zum erzielten Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige Ausschüttungsquote bedeutet: Das Unternehmen behält einen größeren Teil des Gewinns für Investitionen – typisch für Wachstumsunternehmen.
- Eine moderate Quote (z. B. 25–50 %) steht oft für ein gesundes Gleichgewicht zwischen Ausschüttung und Zukunftsinvestitionen.
- Hohe Ausschüttungsquoten können attraktiv wirken, sind aber riskanter, wenn die Gewinne schwanken oder sinken.
📘 Dividendensteigerungen in Folge (Erhöhungen)
📈 Was ist das?
Diese Kennzahl zeigt, wie viele Jahre in Folge ein Unternehmen seine Dividende pro Aktie erhöht hat – ohne Kürzung oder Aussetzung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein langer Track Record kontinuierlicher Erhöhungen spricht für Verlässlichkeit, solide Finanzen und aktionärsfreundliche Unternehmenspolitik.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein langer Zeitraum mit Dividendensteigerungen stärkt das Vertrauen – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Solche Unternehmen gelten als verlässlich und planbar für Einkommensinvestoren.
- Je länger die Serie, desto stärker das Commitment gegenüber den Aktionären.
📘 Umsatz
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen insgesamt mit seinen Produkten und Dienstleistungen verdient – also den Bruttoerlös vor Abzug von Kosten.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Umsatz ist eine der zentralen Kennzahlen zur Einschätzung der Unternehmensgröße, Marktstellung und Wachstumskraft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein wachsender Umsatz zeigt eine steigende Nachfrage und kann ein guter Frühindikator für Gewinnsteigerungen sein.
- Vergleiche von aktuellem und erwartetem Umsatz geben Hinweise auf das Marktumfeld und Analystenerwartungen.
- Wichtig: Starker Umsatz allein genügt nicht – auch Margen und Profitabilität zählen.
📘 EBITDA
📈 Was ist das?
EBITDA steht für „Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens, bereinigt um bilanztechnische und finanzierungsbedingte Effekte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBITDA ist eine verbreitete Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der operativen Leistungsfähigkeit – insbesondere bei kapitalintensiven Unternehmen oder im internationalen Vergleich.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes oder wachsendes EBITDA spricht für starke operative Erträge – unabhängig von Bilanzierung oder Steuerlast.
- EBITDA ist besonders nützlich, um Unternehmen branchenübergreifend zu vergleichen.
- Wichtig: EBITDA ist keine offizielle Gewinnkennzahl – Abschreibungen und Finanzierungskosten werden ausgeklammert.
📘 EBIT
📈 Was ist das?
EBIT steht für „Earnings Before Interest and Taxes“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen und Steuern. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Finanzierungs- und Steueraufwand.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBIT ist eine zentrale Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der Profitabilität aus dem Kerngeschäft – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder Steuersystem.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes EBIT deutet auf ein profitables Kerngeschäft hin – vor Zinslasten oder steuerlichen Effekten.
- Es erlaubt objektivere Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Finanzierung.
- Im Vergleich mit EBITDA zeigt EBIT bereits den Einfluss von Abschreibungen auf das operative Ergebnis.
📘 Nettogewinn
📈 Was ist das?
Der Nettogewinn ist der verbleibende Jahresüberschuss (oder -fehlbetrag) eines Unternehmens – nach Abzug aller Kosten, Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Nettogewinn ist die zentrale Erfolgskennzahl – er zeigt, wie profitabel ein Unternehmen nach allen Kosten tatsächlich arbeitet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein steigender Nettogewinn zeigt, dass das Unternehmen effizient wirtschaftet – trotz aller Kosten.
- Die Entwicklung des Gewinns beeinflusst z. B. direkt das KGV und weitere Kennzahlen.
- Im Zeitverlauf lässt sich ablesen, wie stabil und profitabel ein Geschäftsmodell wirklich ist.
📘 Free Cashflow (FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow gibt Aufschluss über die echte finanzielle Stärke eines Unternehmens – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln. Er zeigt, wie viel Spielraum für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldenabbau besteht.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
FCF reflects a company’s real financial strength – regardless of accounting profits. It shows how much flexibility a company has for dividends, share buybacks, or debt reduction.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow bedeutet, dass ein Unternehmen echte Finanzkraft besitzt – unabhängig vom bilanzierten Gewinn.
- Er ist oft die solideste Grundlage für nachhaltige Dividenden und Aktienrückkäufe.
- Sinkender FCF kann ein Warnsignal sein – auch wenn der Gewinn stabil aussieht.
📘 Umsatzwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Umsatzwachstum zeigt, wie stark sich die Erlöse eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert haben – tatsächlich (TTM) und auf Prognosebasis (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (Umsatz erwartet ÷ Umsatz Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein wachsender Umsatz ist ein zentrales Signal für steigende Nachfrage, Geschäftsausweitung und Marktanteilsgewinne – besonders bei Wachstumsunternehmen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachstum ist der Motor langfristiger Wertsteigerung – besonders bei Technologie- und Wachstumsaktien.
- Wichtig ist nicht nur das aktuelle Wachstum, sondern auch dessen Nachhaltigkeit.
- Prognosen zeigen, ob Analysten weiteres Potenzial erwarten – oder eine Verlangsamung.
📘 EBITDA-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBITDA-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBITDA ÷ EBITDA Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein steigendes EBITDA ist ein Zeichen für verbesserte operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Finanzierungsstruktur oder Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Starkes EBITDA-Wachstum signalisiert operative Effizienz und Skalierung – besonders relevant in Wachstumsphasen.
- EBITDA-Wachstum ist ein Frühindikator für Margen- und Gewinnentwicklung – sollte aber stets im Zusammenhang mit Umsatz und EBIT betrachtet werden.
📘 EBIT Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBIT-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens (nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern) im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gewachsen ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBIT ÷ EBIT Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein direkter Indikator für die wirtschaftliche Entwicklung des operativen Geschäfts – unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (Abschreibungen).
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Steigendes EBIT signalisiert wachsende operative Rentabilität – auch unter Berücksichtigung von Abschreibungen.
- Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein wichtiges Maß zur Beurteilung von Geschäftsmodellen mit hohen Investitionskosten.
- Im Zusammenspiel mit Umsatz- und EBITDA-Wachstum ergibt sich ein umfassendes Bild zur operativen Entwicklung.
📘 Nettogewinn-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Nettogewinn-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark der Jahresüberschuss eines Unternehmens gegenüber dem Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist – sowohl tatsächlich (TTM) als auch auf Basis von Prognosen (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwarteter Nettogewinn ÷ Nettogewinn Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Der erwartete Wert basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Gewinn ist die entscheidende Ergebnisgröße für ein Unternehmen. Ein wachsender Nettogewinn deutet auf steigende Effizienz, stabile Kostenkontrolle und nachhaltige Ertragskraft hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachsender Nettogewinn stärkt die Bewertung, Dividendenfähigkeit und Kursfantasie.
- Stagnierender oder rückläufiger Gewinn trotz Umsatzwachstum kann auf Margendruck hinweisen.
📘 Free Cashflow-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Free-Cashflow-Wachstum zeigt, wie sich der freie Mittelzufluss eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert hat – also der Betrag, der nach allen operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Free Cashflow ist der echte, verfügbare Geldzufluss. Wachstum in diesem Bereich ist ein Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und steigende Flexibilität bei Dividenden, Rückkäufen oder Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Sinkender Free Cashflow kann auf steigende Investitionen, höhere Kosten oder stagnierende operative Erträge hindeuten.
- Besonders bei Dividendenwerten ist das FCF-Wachstum wichtig – denn Dividenden werden letztlich aus dem verfügbaren Cash gezahlt.
- Ein negativer Trend sollte genauer analysiert werden – er ist nicht zwangsläufig schlecht, aber potenziell ein Warnsignal.
📘 Bruttomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Bruttomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellungskosten (Material, Produktion) als Bruttogewinn übrig bleibt – also der „Rohgewinn“ eines Unternehmens.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Auch: Bruttomarge = Bruttogewinn ÷ Umsatz × 100
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Bruttomarge gibt Aufschluss über die Profitabilität eines Produkts oder Geschäftsmodells vor Fixkosten, Steuern und Zinsen. Sie zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen produzieren oder einkaufen kann.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Bruttomarge deutet auf starke Preissetzungsmacht und effiziente Herstellung hin.
- Sinkende Bruttomargen können auf Kostensteigerungen oder Preisdruck hindeuten.
- Besonders im Vergleich zu Wettbewerbern liefert die Bruttomarge wertvolle Einblicke in die Geschäftsqualität.
📘 EBITDA-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBITDA-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz als operativer Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) übrig bleibt. Sie misst die operative Effizienz – ohne Verzerrungen durch Finanzierung oder Buchwerte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBITDA-Marge hilft zu verstehen, wie viel operativer Gewinn ein Unternehmen aus jedem Euro Umsatz erzielt – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder steuerlichem Umfeld.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBITDA-Marge zeigt starke operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Bilanzierungseffekten.
- Die Marge ermöglicht gute Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen und Branchen.
- Ein stabiler oder wachsender Wert kann auf effiziente Kostenkontrolle und Skalierbarkeit hindeuten.
📘 EBIT-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBIT-Marge zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Umsatzes als operativer Gewinn nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern übrig bleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBIT-Marge misst die operative Ertragskraft eines Unternehmens unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (z. B. Maschinen, Anlagen). Sie eignet sich gut zum Vergleich von Geschäftsmodellen mit unterschiedlich hohen Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBIT-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen auch nach Abschreibungen effizient arbeitet.
- Sie ist besonders relevant in kapitalintensiven Branchen.
- Langfristig stabile oder steigende Margen sind ein Zeichen wirtschaftlicher Stärke und Preissetzungsmacht.
📘 Nettomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz am Ende als „Reingewinn“ übrig bleibt – also nach Abzug aller Kosten, Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Nettomarge gibt an, wie effizient ein Unternehmen über alle Stufen hinweg wirtschaftet. Sie zeigt, wie viel Gewinn tatsächlich je Euro Umsatz übrig bleibt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Nettomarge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nicht nur operativ stark ist, sondern auch seine Finanzierung und Steuerbelastung im Griff hat.
- Vergleiche mit Wettbewerbern geben Einblicke in die wirtschaftliche Qualität.
- Sinkende Nettomargen trotz Umsatzwachstum können ein Warnsignal sein – etwa für steigende Kosten oder sinkende Effizienz.
📘 Free Cashflow Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug aller operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen tatsächlich als freier Mittelzufluss übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Marge misst die echte Liquidität, die ein Unternehmen erwirtschaftet – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder Abschreibungen. Sie ist besonders relevant für Dividenden, Rückkäufe und Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nachhaltig liquide Mittel erwirtschaftet.
- Sie ist ein starkes Signal für finanzielle Stabilität und Ausschüttungspotenzial.
- Wichtig ist der langfristige Trend – sinkende Werte können auf steigende Investitionen oder rückläufige operative Effizienz hindeuten.
📘 Eigenkapitalquote
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalquote zeigt, wie hoch der Anteil des Eigenkapitals an der Bilanzsumme eines Unternehmens ist – also wie stark es sich aus eigenen Mitteln finanziert.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote steht für finanzielle Stabilität, Krisenfestigkeit und gute Bonität. Sie ist besonders relevant bei der Beurteilung der Verschuldung.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote signalisiert finanzielle Stabilität – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf ein höheres Risiko oder eine aggressive Verschuldung hinweisen.
- Wichtig: Die Eigenkapitalquote sollte immer gemeinsam mit der Eigenkapitalrendite betrachtet werden. Nur so lässt sich beurteilen, ob ein Unternehmen nicht nur solide, sondern auch effizient wirtschaftet.
📘 Eigenkapitalrendite (ROE)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen mit dem Kapital seiner Aktionäre arbeitet – also wie viel Gewinn es pro Euro Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite ist eine zentrale Rentabilitätskennzahl. Sie hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob das Unternehmen eine attraktive Verzinsung auf das eingesetzte Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalrendite spricht für ein starkes, effizientes Geschäftsmodell.
- Besonders interessant ist sie bei kapitalintensiven Firmen oder solchen mit hoher Eigenkapitalquote.
- Wichtig: Ein sehr hoher ROE kann auch auf hohe Schulden hinweisen – daher sollte sie immer im Kontext mit der Eigenkapitalquote betrachtet werden.
📘 Return on Capital Employed (ROCE)
📈 Was ist das?
ROCE misst die Gesamtrentabilität eines Unternehmens – also wie effizient es das eingesetzte Kapital (Eigen- und Fremdkapital) zur Gewinnerzielung nutzt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Das eingesetzte Kapital ist das gesamte betriebsnotwendige Kapital, unabhängig von der Finanzierungsquelle.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROCE eignet sich besonders gut für den Vergleich unterschiedlich finanzierter Unternehmen. Es zeigt, wie effektiv ein Unternehmen Kapital investiert – unabhängig von der Kapitalstruktur.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROCE zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen sein Kapital effizient einsetzt – unabhängig davon, ob es durch Eigen- oder Fremdkapital finanziert ist.
- Je höher der ROCE im Vergleich zu ähnlichen Unternehmen, desto mehr Wert schafft das Unternehmen mit seinem investierten Kapital.
- Besonders wichtig ist der ROCE bei Firmen mit hohen Investitionen – z. B. in Industrie, Energie oder Infrastruktur.
📘 Return on Invested Capital (ROIC)
📈 Was ist das?
ROIC zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen das Kapital investiert, das langfristig im operativen Geschäft gebunden ist – unabhängig davon, ob es aus Eigen- oder Fremdkapital stammt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
- NOPAT = „Net Operating Profit After Taxes“
- Investiertes Kapital = operatives Vermögen abzüglich nicht-verzinster Schulden
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROIC ist eine der präzisesten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung der Kapitalrendite – besonders im Vergleich zur Eigenkapitalrendite, weil es Verzerrungen durch Schulden vermeidet. Er zeigt, ob ein Unternehmen Mehrwert für alle Kapitalgeber schafft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROIC zeigt, wie gut ein Unternehmen mit dem tatsächlich investierten (betriebsnotwendigen) Kapital wirtschaftet.
- Im Unterschied zu ROCE wird nur Kapital betrachtet, das wirklich zur Finanzierung operativer Aktivitäten dient – und verzinst werden muss.
- Besonders hilfreich, um die Kapitalrendite von Unternehmen mit viel „überschüssigem“ Kapital oder zinsfreien Verbindlichkeiten realistisch zu vergleichen.
📘 Verschuldungsgrad (Leverage Ratio)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Verschuldungsgrad zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen durch verzinsliche Schulden (z. B. Kredite und Anleihen) im Verhältnis zum Eigenkapital finanziert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Kennzahl hilft, das finanzielle Risiko und die Abhängigkeit von Fremdkapital zu beurteilen. Ein hoher Verschuldungsgrad kann die Eigenkapitalrendite steigern – birgt aber auch erhöhte Risiken bei Zinsanstiegen oder Liquiditätsengpässen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Verschuldungsgrad steht für finanzielle Stabilität und Unabhängigkeit.
- Ein hoher Wert kann auf erhöhte Risiken hinweisen – insbesondere bei schwankenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
- Wichtig: Immer im Kontext zur Branche und Kapitalintensität bewerten.
📘 Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS)
📈 Was ist das?
Das Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) zeigt, wie viel Gewinn auf eine einzelne Aktie entfällt – und ist eine der wichtigsten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung von Unternehmen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die verwässerte Aktienanzahl berücksichtigt auch potenzielle neue Aktien, etwa durch Optionen, Wandelanleihen oder andere Umtauschrechte.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EPS bildet die Basis für viele Bewertungskennzahlen wie KGV, PEG oder Payout Ratio. Es macht den Gewinn für Aktionäre vergleichbar – unabhängig von der Unternehmensgröße.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EPS hilft, die Profitabilität pro Aktie zu erfassen – und ist besonders wichtig im Zeitvergleich oder im Vergleich mit Analystenschätzungen.
- Steigendes EPS kann ein Zeichen für stabiles Wachstum oder Aktienrückkäufe sein.
- Wichtig: Verwende verwässertes EPS für realistische Bewertungen – besonders bei stark aktienbasierten Vergütungssystemen.
📘 Free Cashflow je Aktie (FCF je Aktie)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow je Aktie zeigt, wie viel freier Mittelzufluss einem Unternehmen pro Aktie zur Verfügung steht – nach Investitionen, aber vor Dividenden oder Schuldentilgung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der FCF je Aktie zeigt, wie viel liquide Mittel pro Aktie tatsächlich im Unternehmen verbleiben – wichtig für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldentilgung. Im Gegensatz zum Gewinn ist er schwerer manipulierbar und daher besonders aussagekräftig.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow je Aktie ist ein Zeichen für hohe finanzielle Flexibilität.
- Er zeigt, wie viel Kapital ein Unternehmen effektiv einsetzen oder ausschütten kann.
- Besonders relevant für dividendenstarke Unternehmen oder solche mit starker Kapitalrendite.
📘 Short Interest
📈 Was ist das?
Short Interest zeigt, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell leerverkauft wurden – also von Investoren geliehen und verkauft, in der Erwartung fallender Kurse.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Der Wert zeigt den Anteil der Aktien, der aktuell auf fallende Kurse spekuliert wird.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Short Interest dient als Stimmungsindikator: Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Skepsis oder negative Erwartungen gegenüber dem Unternehmen hin – kann aber auch zu einem „Short Squeeze“ führen, wenn der Kurs plötzlich steigt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Short Interest deutet auf Vertrauen in das Unternehmen hin.
- Ein hoher Wert kann ein Warnsignal sein – oder eine Chance, wenn sich die Stimmung dreht.
- Besonders spannend in volatilen Märkten oder vor wichtigen Quartalszahlen.
📘 Employees
📈 Was ist das?
Die Mitarbeiteranzahl zeigt, wie viele Personen ein Unternehmen weltweit beschäftigt – ein Indikator für Größe, Struktur und Geschäftsmodell.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft bei der Einschätzung von Skaleneffekten, Effizienz und Personalkosten. Zusammen mit Umsatz und Gewinn lassen sich Kennzahlen wie Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ableiten.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Viele Mitarbeiter bedeuten große operative Komplexität – aber auch hohes Umsatzpotenzial.
- Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ist ein wichtiger Indikator für Effizienz.
- Besonders spannend bei stark wachsenden Tech- oder Industrieunternehmen.
📘 Umsatz je Mitarbeiter
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz je Mitarbeiter zeigt, wie viel Erlös ein Unternehmen durchschnittlich pro Beschäftigtem erwirtschaftet – eine Kennzahl für Effizienz und Produktivität.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die Mitarbeiterzahl stammt in der Regel aus dem letzten verfügbaren Jahresbericht.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Geschäftsmodelle zu vergleichen – insbesondere zwischen arbeitsintensiven und technologiegetriebenen Unternehmen. Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Automatisierung, Effizienz oder hohen Wertschöpfungsanteil hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Umsatz je Mitarbeiter spricht für ein skalierbares und margenstarkes Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf arbeitsintensive Prozesse oder geringere Wertschöpfung hinweisen.
- Besonders hilfreich beim Vergleich von Tech- vs. Industrieunternehmen.
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Honeywell International — Analyst/Investor Day - Honeywell International Inc.
1. Management Discussion
Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell Technologies 2026 Investor Day.
This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website. From time to time, we post new information on this website that may be of interest or material to our investors.
Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and including those described in our recent SEC filings.
[Presentation]
Please welcome Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Mark Macaluso.
Well, good afternoon, and thank you, everyone, for coming. We finally made it and no one is more excited to be here than this team. So we have a packed agenda for you, a ton of great content plenty of time for Q&A sessions, and then we hope you all stay and join us for a reception at the end.
So a quick look at our agenda for today. We'll start with our Chairman and CEO of course, Vimal Kapur. And just a quick look at our presenters. It's going to be a great day. Thank you for sticking with us, the whole afternoon. And with that [indiscernible]
Good day, everyone. I've been privileged to work in Honeywell over the last 35-plus years across different sectors of automation, be it buildings, be it process industry, be it industrial sector. And each one of them I've been highly influenced by the customer voice who talk to us every day on making their business better and solving their complex problems. These customers are in refining. These are in hospitals. These are in data centers. These are in hotels. These are semiconductor fabs and then the list goes on. So I thought what an exciting start to the Investor Day to hear voices some of these customers, which are shaping the future of Honeywell. So here we go.
[Presentation]
Please welcome Honeywell Chairman and CEO, Vimal Kapur.
Good afternoon, everyone. And a warm welcome to everybody to join us on our Investor Day. I thought it's important to start with our customers because if we have to commit to you growth, if we have to commit to you our bright future, it's not without these people who shape our decisions every day. And I really take it very seriously to thinking about customer-first mindset.
So I'm going to walk through my story, and you will hear these messages. So I thought I will lay it out in the front, what you're going to hear from me in the next 35 to 40 minutes.
The first is about our transformation to a pure-play automation company, something which you have been following upon. But more importantly, focusing automation on mission-critical segment.
Automation is a very wide market. You can make a lot of choices. We are making a choice to operate in a segment where mission criticality matters, where uptime matters, customers want to use these systems 24/7. And making that choice is a critical decision we have been evolving upon over the last 2 years since we are reworking our portfolio.
But also the point number three, that we, as a company, are practicing a single business model, which is a bit novel because companies having a business model is not unique about it. Having a businesses following a practice is very standard. But we are going to follow at Honeywell level, a single business model that we build an installed base and we served our installed base through services and software at scale of the entire company.
Then moving along to AI, which is going to be a future opportunity for us. You will hear from me and subsequent speakers how our industry of automation will turn towards autonomy. It's real. Some of you had a chance to look at our demos. You can already see that we are pivoting towards our offering. But I believe that as a future optionality of revenue opportunities, it's going to create much bigger than what is in our numbers today. And then, of course, our operating system, which gives us an execution certainty and our team, which knows how to deliver.
So jumping on to it. So I'm going to tell my story to you in three parts. I'll first walk you through our portfolio transformation, then I'll move towards what's going to drive growth in Honeywell and finally, how we're going to execute it. So the three simple chapters.
So working on the portfolio transformation before that, I thought, let me go back to the last Investor Day of Honeywell, which was 11th of May 2023. So about 3 years and 1 month back. I was not a CEO at that time. So my chart said incoming CEO priorities, and I thought it just could go back and say, what did I say? And did I do what I said or I just wondered around and chose to do different things.
And if you'll see the list of things to what I said, we will accelerate top line growth, improve our say = do on that. We'll execute on Honeywell transformation. We will accelerate our new product machinery. We'll improve our operating system. We'll pivot towards more corporate responsibility even though priorities have changed there over the last 3 years, but we haven't lost a course on that. And we deploy capital strategically.
I won't say that we've done 100% precisely, but the direction of travel has been what I committed. There are some tweaks. The point being that I stay on course. I don't change my mind. If we are -- what we're going to present to you today, you can have a high amount of certainty that me and my team are going to deliver on these commitments in the times ahead.
If you look at our portfolio, many of these actions are known, but I thought it's good to summarize on a page what we have been able to accomplish since start of January '24 until about 2.5 years of journey. Two spins successfully executed the Advanced Material spins last year. Aerospace spin happening in about 2 weeks' time from now. We did seven acquisitions in the Automation portfolio. There were two additional we did in Aerospace, so I'm not counting those.
We've done three divestitures, one completed, two are under execution, should occur in the Q3 of this year. We also had significant balance sheet simplification so that our business is easier to understand.
And finally, we were able to accomplish the IPO of Quantinuum about a few days back.
Now imagine I started as a CEO in June of 2023, and I presented on this chart, I'm going to do this. You may think this is a crazy idea to do all this in such a short period of time. But we are able to accomplish this because we are mission-centric.
We really want to build a automation-centric portfolio. So when you work for a mission you get the energy and execution speed on which we have delivered on this. And this has really created the new Honeywell.
These are 2025 numbers, so they are backward looking. So $17 billion rough numbers is our revenue of the Honeywell Technologies, divided into three segments: buildings, industrial and process.
But 25% of the portfolio is refreshed with all the changes we made of divestitures and acquisitions, 1/4 of the revenue is going to come from the new revenue stream, generally speaking, from a higher growth opportunities and not only have we've been able to create a pure-play diversified end market portfolio, but also have positioned it well for the growth.
If you look at the distribution of the revenue, the center pie chart, if you pay attention to that, we really start really focusing upon this whole notion of growing installed base and mining installed base. 60% of our revenue come from solutions, 20% and 40% product. That's when we grow our installed base. We do it every day. That's when we ship a product, or we build a solution. So our installed base keeps growing.
But if our mindset is that we need to mine installed base, that's 40% of our revenue, 30% come from services, 10% come from software. And we like both. There's no question of that we need more of services and more of software. We want both of them, because both are equally profitable.
And that mindset allows us to really think about our future business model. So one of the things we are planning as part of this layout is we want our services and software revenue to grow to 45%. Because it makes our business more predictable, less cyclical but also more profitable because clearly, that revenue stream has a higher margin compared to the solution and product stream. And that's one of our strategic goals that we want to treat this business with this mindset of building and mining installed base.
If you look at our geographic distribution, as you would expect, businesses geographically very distributed, a little over 40% revenue from U.S. and 60% rest of the world. So we will benefit from -- as the global expansion occurs in different end markets will equally benefit from that.
Now if the question will obviously come in that automation is a big market, where exactly we play and why we made these choices. It's important question because that's a heart and center of the discussion. So I put a very simple illustration of automation on the left-hand side. Some of you are familiar is called Purdue model, so you started sensing and measuring something, then you define a control measure on what you want to do, and finally, you can optimize it using software. This is how the industry has evolved since mid-70s when this industry got created.
As I mentioned, we play in three end markets. building, process and discrete. We have made choice to play in the mission-critical part of these markets. And also you don't see some other parts of automation we have not representing because we believe it doesn't fit into the either mission criticality or our business model of building and mining installed base doesn't really fit in well. Because if that's our core principle, we need to be selling true to our principle.
So if you walk the stack here in buildings, we play through sensors, controls and software. So in building the sensors are smoke detectors, cameras, field devices, then we have significant position in the control domain, and we have significant position in the software domain.
But when you can do the process, we have significant position in the solutions side, both in the control and software. And on industrial automation, we have sensing and measurement play at this point.
We want to build a strong sensing and measurement business in the industrial automation. This is a space we believe in because the thesis is very simple. If the world is going to invest much more in AI, AI is built upon data. And in the physical world, data comes from sensors. You can't estimate temperature of a room or a condition in a building or any such asset based on estimate, it's some going to work. So physical sensing is the heart of it. It's a very fragmented industry. We have already built a strong product-based business in buildings, and we want to illustrate that reputation in Industrial Automation.
Discrete automation, in the control side, we don't represent today. And the question will be why we don't participate in this market. It's an attractive market with the U.S. onshoring occurring, there should be growth here. At this point, we don't have a participation in that because that's how our portfolio has evolved over the last many years. It doesn't mean we won't participate in the future. We understand these domains quite well, but today, our position is open at this point. So we're keeping our optionality open. And near term, we'll continue to focus on strengthening our sensing and measurement space. But moving forward, we'll keep ourselves a room to grow into discrete Automation on the control side.
So very wide portfolio, which jumps in nicely to the next chart, why do we like all this? Okay, why do you like this combination. First and foremost, we play in a market which is a little over $200 billion between building, industrial and process. And market grows somewhere around 3.5% in a given period. So 3% growth in industries and process and 4% growth in building. Now we want to grow 4% to 6%. So why would we grow higher than market? I mean if market grows about 3.5, what's our entitlement to grow higher than market. There are two fundamental reasons for that.
Before I get to those reasons, automation by itself is a secular growth market for several decades to come. In the critical segment, we operate, thinking about critical segment like hospitals, like data center, pharmaceutical facilities, refineries, semiconductor facility, utilities. Automation is like oxygen for these facilities. You cannot run these complex facilities without automation. So we are not in any fundamental shift, which is likely to occur for decades to come. It has 5 decades of proven history. So secular growth here is highly probable in the times to come. So that's a table stakes.
But the fundamentals of macros are strong, whether it's infrastructure built out the energy security, which has become a major challenge due to two wars. The labor scarcity and AI issue, which are interrelated, I'll talk to it and reshoring. I think these are the foundational growth vectors, which are occurring in Automation, which support us and support the entire peer group with whom we compete with every day.
So question comes in that why would we grow higher than the market? The thesis is built upon two fundamentals. The first is within these markets, there are verticals which are growing at a much higher rate. We are greater than 3.5%, like data centers like semiconductor fabs and many others like LNG. If we are able to participate in those markets and grow at a higher rate, we are able to change the rate of acceleration of our group.
So part is how do we make those choices because we can't be everywhere, how we carefully make the choices and grow those markets at a higher rate, while we maintain our share in the core. So that's the first change we want to make and I'll talk more about.
And the second, our installed base built over the last 50 to 75 years in some businesses is significant. You're talking here tens of thousands of plants, millions of buildings and assets which we own, how do we execute our aftermarket services strategy?
In this mission critical segment, where service is very important. Uptime is very important. Customers care about these assets to work all the time. So if we are able to execute our strategy on service and software flawlessly, that gives us an incremental growth opportunity. So it's fundamentally grow with the market with these two optionality of growing higher on the high-growth markets and mining our installed base better, makes the case for us not to grow 3% to 4%, but make a case to grow from 4% to 6%.
In addition to that, the market characteristic of fragmentation in buildings and industrial market, in particular, is very attractive for us, more from future growth and optionality to further do acquisitions. Because fragmentation allows us to make choices. The markets are big, as you can see, $200 billion, and we are shy of $20 billion. So we have a lot of runway organically, but equally importantly, inorganically. And we believe that there's an aggregation opportunity selectively where necessary possible in addition to that. So there's a lot to like in these markets for us to feel bullish about on how can we deliver in the years ahead.
All that really comes together in form of where our position is as a pure-play Automation leader, #1 player in building automation and #1 player in process technology. Now if I was standing here in 2019 and saying we are going to be #1 player in building automation, mostly most people will not believe that statement because the segment itself did not exist.
We have created a segment called Building Automation from scratch after spinning off our residential business in late 2018. And from scratch, we built a business, which was $5.3 billion, sub 20% margins, to a business which is trending towards $8 billion and high 20s margin. We know how to create pure-play. And we are going to repeat that formula in industrial and process automation, where we believe in honest admission, we are top 3, but our ambition is to stay also become #1.
It's going to take a while. I'm not saying it's happening next quarter. but that's part of our strategy that how we continue to execute and bring our position. Our foundational strengths is our installed base, our global scale and our operating system.
But our differentiation comes from three points. The first is domain experience. Now domain experience matters in mission-critical segments and our participation in these industries give us a deep understanding on how these sectors work.
And more importantly, if we have to mine our installed base, we have to understand the customer needs much more deeply than only at our product level.
As an example, if you take care of process industry, which is about 40% of our business, the domain experience there come from understanding the conversion of molecule. These domains really drive a convert a molecule from position A to position B. Not easy to understand domain, it is possessed by very few people who provide technology to asset builder to do that.
We own that business. We are #1 provider of process technology in the whole world. which makes us uniquely positioned to have deep domain knowledge to play in that segment.
And by the way, the same argument applies in industrial and buildings too. And that gives us a unique advantage as we are turning our focus more from automation to autonomy. Domain experience is going to be paramount to do that.
Number two, Honeywell Forge something we have been investing in since 2019. 7 years of journey, now this is a foundation of our business model. If we have to mine our installed base, we want to do through Honeywell Forge platform, which is an AI platform, which mines our installed base better and creates a higher value for our customers.
And pivots the path to autonomy. I will ask you to consider checking how many industrial companies announced a cloud strategy in 2019? And how many companies still have the cloud strategy in 2026. We are one of the few companies who stayed on course because we believed into it. And therefore, it has become a competitive difference for us after 7 or 8 years.
And then finally, our decision to play in innovation across critical control points, the mission criticality. It's a choice we have made. The whole company runs with a mindset of serving customers, which are mission-critical, which positions us differently from others, which want to serve all the segments. So that's where we believe at our starting point.
Now before I go away from my portfolio section, I want to spend a minute on our commitment on ESG. We have stayed on course on that, specifically after separation of Aerospace and our Specialty Chemicals business. We don't have any exposure to nuclear weapons. Some of the shareholders have that as criteria. That obviously was obstacle in our previous portfolio, not anymore. But more importantly, for me, 75% of our offerings are sustainability oriented. That number will only go up in terms of how we think about this business.
And finally, our own emissions have been reducing. We haven't changed our course just because it became less visible to the outside world. We have been executing on it. We will be carbon neutral by 2035. We'll be half of our emissions since we started measuring it by 2030. We do it every day. We do it every week, so we are going to stay on course on that.
So that was the first part of the story. We have transformed our portfolio we believe in every part of our portfolio we have, and we're in a good position. The question is now what do you do with that? Portfolio is just a good starting point. You need to execute and drive a growth based upon that.
So before I jump into our growth strategy, I just want to show back -- go back to this interesting chart for you. If you see the left-hand side, I started my first year was 2024. So I thought it's good to start from the year 1 of me being the CEO.
We had a, I would say, at best okay year or not so great year, whichever word you want to choose in. Our Industrial business, Automation business shrank about 4%. And Process and Building grew both around 2%. So not good performance out of the gate, but that's where we started laying out the strategy, which I'm going to share to you that how we are going to grow as a company from mid- to high single digit. There has to be a consistent way to do it. And that way is consistent across all the three segments.
You've seen how the Building Automation performance have changed from low single to consistent high single-digit growth we have delivered over the last 6 quarters. And I believe that we are well positioned to do that for rest of the year.
The question is, is that strategy replicable in industrial automation and process automation? The answer is yes, because we have a consistent and the same strategy. We don't have different ways to think about it. We are in a different stage of journey in terms of maturity of our strategy execution in our portfolio and have a very high confidence that what we are committing to you in terms of our growth of mid-single-digit growth for Industrial Automation and Process Automation technology and Building in from mid- to high single-digit growth is absolutely going to happen because of the consistency of the strategy.
So what's our growth strategy? It's built on this whole circle of shared value creation. We start with growing installed base, which is 60% of our revenue. We need to make careful choices on where we go, and I'll talk to that in a minute. And then we really start with the circle of monetizing installed base.
Now if you go back 10 years back, monetizing installed base was all around getting about some parts business, some break/fix services, some service contracts. That changed over the last few years since we started instrumenting our business with the cloud. Now we think about every asset need to get connected, harness the power of Honeywell Forge platform, which creates optimized outcome for the customer. And then as the customer asset gets older, 5 years, 10 years, we refresh it with our migration software offerings. And the cycle starts all over again.
That's a fundamental principle. If we think about it across all our businesses, it changes the mindset on what business you're in because you think your growth strategy around that.
So with that in mind, this is how we think about our growth strategy. It's a simple triangle. We grow our installed base by selling products and projects, that's 60% of our business. And then we mine that installed base using our Honeywell Forge platform through services and software. And to do 1 and 2, I need new products. If I need to participate in high-growth verticals, I need something to sell to them, which is differentiated. If I have to mine my installed base, I need to give them an offering by which customers are willing to pay for all that converts into 3. And if I do a good job on new products, that ensures my growth.
So simple way to think about Honeywell Technology is going to be in a typical year, how much growth came from new products, how much growth came from price. You add the two, substract from them, any market disruption or any churn which happens, that's going to be our growth numbers. Relatively simple to do and why it relates this way because that's linked to our strategy. So we want to make ourselves so easy to understand that we don't have to do a lot of thinking on how to think about Honeywell in the future.
Let me dig into each one of them, how we think about growing installed base, monetizing installed base and introducing products. So let's talk about growing installed base.
On the left-hand side, you see our current construct of revenue, 80% of our revenue come from what we call mature verticals where the growth happens at GDP rate, around 3% SAM growth, a typical year. So that's our businesses in end markets like commercial real estate, education, airport, refining chemicals, absolutely important business for us. We want to keep our share in these markets and gain some where we have an opportunity through our innovation, that's core part of our strategy.
But equally potent for us is that it's an "and" strategy that while we do that, we also make a choice of high-growth verticals, which is 20% of our revenue and growing them at a higher rate. At a double-digit growth rate. And when we do that well, consistently, that 20% becomes 25%.
The question will be, how do you choose where do you want to grow? If you randomly pick up what's occurring at this point? Or you want to be thoughtful on that. We're really putting bets on four things on the next 5- or 10-year horizon. The four things should not surprise you. The first is, we believe AI is here to stay for a long time. That's why the two end markets of data center and semiconductor are important for us. Number two, if AI is here to stay, you need more energy, Therefore, LNG and grid infrastructure is important. And those are two end markets we really want to focus upon.
Number three, aging population is here to stay for a long time, which means the world needs more life sciences, more drugs and also likely need more hospitals. So we're putting bets on those too. And then finally, hospitality, as world becomes more richer, consumption increases, people want to spend money on leisure and therefore, the hospitality industry grows.
So we are not putting random bets on what's in fashion. We are thoughtful on four big vectors of AI, energy, aging and consumption. If those two are true, which we believe they are based upon our analysis, that gives us a structured way to keep thinking about where to focus on high-growth verticals.
And we have proven it already. We have grown nicely in LNG through our inorganic acquisition. We have built a good position in data center from nowhere over the last 3 to 4 years. We built a good position in hospitality with a combination of our actions of organic and inorganic. So we're going to continue this journey. Some places, we have a lot more runway, some places we have lesser on this. So that's part of one of our strategy growing our installed base in a very thoughtful manner through our solution and our product.
Then once we have built our installed base, then we want to buy an installed base, which is the upper end of this bar. So 40% was -- 60% was at the bottom. Now we need to mine it. Now we are not selling, as I said, breakfast services. We are selling outcomes. That's the direction we are pivoting towards selling labor efficiency, selling asset uptime or operational efficiency, the offering which customers care about consistently across all the segments we operate. That's why the mission criticality matters. If you operate in mission-critical segment, customers care about uptime. They care about operational efficiency. They care about skilled labor. And therefore, our offerings remain highly repeatable because we can work on them across many sectors.
And if you see the middle chart of our installed base penetration, we have wired our entire installed base, which is a bit relatively unique feature. If you have time to walkthrough one of our demos in the room here, is we have visibility to our entire installed base of whole of Honeywell. Why it matters? Because If my business model is to my installed base, the obvious first question is, do you even know where it is. It looks very pedestrian question, but it's hard for industrial company, which has grown over multiple years through multiple acquisitions to instrument that.
Now we have that data. We know which customers are under contract. We know the life of the asset, which parts are obsolete, which are not obsolete, which needs renewal, and that gives us the penetration option. And you see some businesses are in mid-single digits like process technology, 3%. I see that as an opportunity of runway. We can grow from 3 to 10s and 20s. But every business have a runway to grow.
From a critical option if we have to get all the service business in theory in the planet from my installed base, the critical model or empirical model is roughly $20 billion, and our service business is just $7 billion. So that to me is an opportunity set.
How we should think about it, how to get from $7 billion to $7.5 billion to $8 billion, which gives me a confidence that we will get to 45% of revenue mix of services and software because the entitlement is very large and mission criticality drives us towards that.
Which nicely puts the whole story of Honeywell Forge, which is the center of our strategy to monetize our installed base. Forge, as I said, we've invested [indiscernible] in dollars since 2019 to really build this hardware-agnostic AI platform, which allow us to build our offerings to mine our installed base through services and software. Suresh will walk you through in his section, how the journey has evolved over the last few years?
But really started with connected services, connect our installed base and offer our customers a service contract through force platform. Why it matters? Because customers are able to get better uptime, they have better visibility of the assets, we're able to get better prices as a company and also have a lower cost to serve. That's how we started in 2019.
Then we pivoted toward new software applications, applications which were created with the power of data. You can create new software application to configure our products. You can create application to inspect our product. For a license fee, and they became a new revenue stream for us.
So revenue streams are growing to a point that today of approximately $1 billion of revenue is annual recurring revenue for us, only for software. Company like us used to have big software numbers. We have learned our lesson to keep it simple, just report ARR, which is what we invoice. And this should grow about 15%. We believe if we execute the strategy well. and that becomes a growth engine for monetizing our installed base.
Of course, as I said, total service or business is $7 billion. $1 billion of that is from software recurring ARR. So obviously, we will work towards growing that in the future.
Now the last box here of autonomous operation is equally important. As the word is growing as we are getting more and more data, we clearly see automation industry moving towards autonomy. So what does it mean?
If you go back to automation industry, when it was created in mid-'70s, the whole model was built upon the concept of rule-based system where human is in the loop. So you take an asset, take a hospital, take a semiconductor fab, take a refinery, you instrument it, you put control measure. There are exceptions which happened, exceptions are managed by humans. Humans will come in and take a control measure to deal with exception.
Now at the hindsight, after 50 years, you say, wow, there's a problem in that model. The problem in that model is that human, which was running that asset for 10 years, 20 years, acquired a lot of knowledge why this system fails, why it doesn't operate the way it operates it. So when that human leaves, the knowledge leaves with the human. And that's becoming a problem over the last 10 years as lesser and lesser skilled people were available -- are available, knowledge is becoming an issue.
AI solves the problem. So we are in a world today of Agentic systems where agents are helping human to augment the knowledge we are missing. So our customers are asking for more and more agents to run their facility, run their buildings, run their plants, run their process facilities, and eventually, we will find a pathway towards autonomy. But augmentation itself has a huge opportunity of transforming our industry from automation to working towards autonomy.
And if you look at it, how we are enabling it, look at some stats on the right-hand side of the chart, we have more than 300,000 customers connected. I would argue that some scale, 5 million assets which are connected. And every day, every day, we collect more than 1 trillion terabyte of data. That's the basis for us to build our autonomy. It's not going to happen just because I want it needs a foundational system, and we have created a foundation on which we're going to build an autonomous system on the future.
So future optionality. Only $1 billion of ARR revenue is in our revenue stream today, but I'll argue that there's a lot more runway to come.
Now all for us to do moving into verticals and serving our installed base requires new products. And one of the decisions I made as incoming CEO was to raise our R&D spend in 2025, if you observe our R&D spend went up by about 50 basis points. I think it was necessary, because if our thesis is all about growth through new products, we need to spend at median or above end of the market.
That's -- but we need to spend it smartly. So we have done that. I don't see a necessity for us to make any more correction. We are at the point we like it to be. Now we need to grow our revenue every year and earn that incremental revenue through our growth while keeping the percentages the same.
But what that has done is our vitality has been progressively growing to mid-40s. The typical industry leverage of vitality is about 20s. Vitality is defined as products you created over the last 3 years so that you can see the health of the business. You're not selling old stuff, you're selling the new stuff, so you're less disruptive to yourself.
And then all that is leading to our organic growth, what you can see on the right, we are slowly progressing from not growing based upon new products to more growing. And we do expect this number to keep going up as we make progress on this.
But it's less about spending more money. I wish that you can grow by just spending more R&D dollars. It's not that straightforward.
We have also invested heavily in refreshing our offering managers. We have 600 of them looking at their talent, making sure that we have the right people in the right jobs. That's an important part of our execution.
But also looking at underlying systems, do we have the right systems on how we look at our new product performance. How do we know which is working? What's not working? What's the basis of that? What's the definition of that?
And then our launch processes. It's because we launched hundreds of products in a year, that's a big opportunity. So all that really is a basis for us to think about high confidence in this.
I spend a lot of my personal time on this process. Question is why? Because all our growth is linked to new products. And if me and my colleagues, SBGs CEOs are not passionate about it, we will not be able to execute the growth we're really talking about.
All that really comes back to the story I started about. This whole cycle of shared value creation is in motion. This is not something we are thinking about. It's a strategy we're going to do it in the future. 5.2 million assets connected it will be 9 million conservatively by 2028, almost double, which is giving us a high confidence that using Forge will continue to propel our services and software revenue from 40% to 45% because we create outcome for our customers. And then we keep refreshing our installed base and go back to the whole cycle. So the cycle of value creation is a whole part of our growth strategy, which we want to get across.
So before we wrap up this section, I thought also spend a minute on our M&A. Our growth is heavily dependent on organic growth. I want to make it very clear. That's the majority of our growth. We did six acquisitions. And acquisitions were done more around some known growth vectors we strongly believe in, either in end markets, we believe there's a high growth. So we made three acquisitions in LNG space. Air Products LNG business, Sundyne business and CCC business. But we also made two acquisitions in the space of security. We believe the world isn't going to invest more in security, be it physical, be it cyber. So we are acquiring in the spaces, what we call bolt-on, the space is extremely well. So there's a lower risk and higher probability of execution. And Mike will share with you numbers of all these acquisitions, we want to be absolutely transparent on how we are doing against them.
But the good news there is we are beating our internal model across all of them, and they are based upon some tough numbers we are committed to ourselves. And we're going to stay on the same strategy. We're going to stay on the bolt-on strategy in the optimal size of $2 billion to $4 billion. With a clear path on commercial synergies, continue to operate in mission-critical segments. So we're not going to change our rubric what has been successful for us.
And we'll be very selective. We'll be very thoughtful because we are very focused at least in 2027 to wind down our debt and continue to make our commitments on that front.
I thought it's important to spend a minute also on Quantinuum, a good success story of completing IPO a few days back. The Quantinuum now becomes an optionality for us in the future. We own 47% of the company. So how do we monetize it with future optionality for us? But what excites me about Quantinuum is the quantum story and AI story it goes hand in hand. As AI is scaling, the compute power is not able to keep up with that. The compute power is running in differential to the compute power, which AI is demanding. And the best way to solve that is quantum.
And the areas like drug design, optimization, new material discovery, cybersecurity is where cyber demand where quantum demand is imminent. And we believe that at the right time, when these start scaling up, it will be the right time for us to monetize our stake. But we are in a much better position now because the company being public and will execute at the right part of time.
So moving to the last part of the story now, I'm spending my last 5 minutes on, okay, it's all great. How are you going to execute it? I mean anybody can say and it's good to tell the story, but do we have a muscle to execute all of that? I'll first point out to our Honeywell Accelerator, which is our operating system.
This has grown over 20 years. I am proud to say that my two predecessors did an excellent job to lay down a strong foundation of this operating system since 2005 when Dave Cote started really focused on functional excellence and manufacturing operating system. Under leadership of Darius, we really moved into new products and pricing and to some it to commercial excellence. And under my leadership, we focused on business models and customer obsession.
So the point being that this is an ever evolutionary operating system. This is how we make a choice to work by discipline and it makes our businesses better. It also gave us an assurance that we can execute with certainty versus execute with high variability across businesses. And you will hear from different business leaders, how they use operating system, not only for running their business. And if we did an acquisition, how we integrate those acquisitions flawlessly as part of our business.
Which nicely flows into the next point that accelerator is a big part for us to also drive our margin expansion. The margin expansion tools are going to be typical. It's going to be pricing, it's going to be productivity for sure. But rather than pricing on productivity through not a systemic manner, we use our tools, we have created over 15 to 20 years, to drive manufacturing excellence, to drive pricing execution, to drive commercial excellence, to ensure that we can deliver on our margin expansion.
But also use our tools to manage our fixed cost. Our fixed cost has come down by almost 600 basis points with all the work we have done. Now our job is to keep it at 31%. We have got it. And if possible, make it even lower to further expand our margin. And our operating system really drives us to understand what are the optionality and options for our fixed cost management.
And finally, as I mentioned before, our mix of -- revenue mix as it changes is certainly going to be margin accretive. So all that gives me high assurance that our margin expansion in rubric is very solid, because it's built on a back of operating system, which we use every day.
Now to do all that, we have a very capable leadership team. You're going to hear from six of them later today. From Mike, Suresh and 4 CEOs. I can tell you that this team is super charge up and highly excited about optionality it had in front of them.
We have executed, as I mentioned to you, flawlessly over the last 2 years. Delivered to you, hopefully, in surprisingly matter on executing our plans, flawlessly acquisition integration, but also continue to deliver our financial commitments. And this team is very capable to deliver to future commitments. We're really talking about ahead of us.
It's also interesting that many of the team players rejoined Honeywell, I thought it's an important feature to point out. Starting from Mark himself, who rejoined us, but also Anant, who rejoined us from Microsoft, Billal, who joined us and Pete, who also rejoined us. The question is why people are excited, not because they're a great friends. But because they believe in the strategy. They believe that we are on to something which creates a new opportunity, and we collectively are excited about that.
So it's also our Board. I'm proud to have three of our board members in the room today. Mike Lamach, who hopefully needs no introduction, CEO and Chair of Trane. Mike is going to be our Lead Director. We have Indra Nooyi, who as Chair and CEO of PepsiCo; and Stephen Williamson, who was CFO of Thermo Fisher. They represent our board here today, and I'm very proud to have a Board which is not only driving governance but driving us insight, helping us execute this strategy.
And like any other purpose-built company, you also get to build a purposeful board so that it's aligned to execution of your strategy. So the great team with the right Board gives me high confidence that we're going to execute on it in a flawless manner.
This chart is -- I wanted to leave this chart for you, which is a very interesting data point. If you see on the right-hand side, this is an attrition trend of Honeywell since 2019. And if you see the numbers like when the big resignation happened, our numbers went up like everybody else, and if you see the chart on the extremely right in end of 2025, our attrition is lowest in our history to our data we can ever find in the last 15 years. That sounds very counter-intuitive that a company which is going through such a big transformation, spinning stuff, selling companies, why people are not leaving because they believe in the future. We are creating a true growth culture.
look at some of the stats on the left-hand side. Our Voice of Employee Score is 74% above industry median. Our Glassdoor score is way higher than our peers because we are investing in people, in their training in customer co-creation, they can see the strategy. So I think if know the stat gives you confidence, I think this is all facts that this gives you confidence that we're on the right trajectory because the employees believe into it. they're insiders, they can see and feel it every day on how we are executing that.
So with that and wrap up, I will say that we as a company feel -- Mike will talk more about our financial rubric, but I, as a leader of the business, feel highly confident on delivering what we are committing to you today, 4% to 6% organic growth. We do have a contingency built into that. We are absolutely transparent about it. I do believe in today's uncertain time, you do need some contingency to deliver the commitment. So you can't build a plan and come back with you to excuse us to say, here is the reason we can't deliver that. I feel highly confident about our margin expansion and delivering 10% plus adjusted income growth.
So with that, I'm going to wrap up here, my section. I hope the story of building a pure-play automation leader is convincing the story of durable growth margin with our mission criticality focus and business model is convincing. And optionality of future are going from autonomy from automation to autonomy is real. And our operating system is going to be the backbone and our team. It's going to be the backbone, which I've executed.
So I look forward to the more conversation. I'm going to invite my friend, Billal on the stage to talk about his successful story of Building Automation.
Please welcome President and CEO of Building Automation, Billal Hammoud.
Thank you, Vimal, and welcome, everyone. Thank you for being here. In Building Automation, we have created an amazing business that's operating in an attractive space, $120 billion space are pure-play controls, growing at 4% annually with strong secular growth trends.
Our focus on Building Automations on the three primary operational control domains, fire-life safety, security & access and energy management. We do all of those while addressing the #1 problem facing our customers around the world which is this shortage of skilled labor.
In the next 20 minutes, you will see firsthand how we've transformed this business into one of the fastest-growing businesses in the industry. We've done that really we're focusing on three things: one customer centricity; two, on speed of innovation; and three, having the best empowered talent to do that.
On customer centricity, working along with our channel partners, we've really increased our focus on growth verticals, and we have made intentional decisions to reorganize our people as well as change our decision rights to allow highly talented, capable people in the regions, closest to the customers to make decisions. They understand the customer best, and they are able to move fastest to make the right decisions.
On innovation, multiple years of double-digit increase in our R&D sales, led by our focus on Forge Connected Building, which has become an important part of our overall growth algorithm.
So all in all, what this allowed us to do in 2025 is to grow our top line by 8% to $7.4 billion and expand our margins by 80 basis points to 26.5%. What you will see here is a well-balanced business with a lot of optionality for growth, both in terms of how we look at products and solutions as well as our strong geographic mix as well as our exposure to different verticals.
Specifically, when you look at these verticals in health care, hospitality and data centers, Vimal touched on them, we see those for Building Automation as three growth verticals globally. And especially when you think about data centers, which a couple of years ago was really a negligible part of our sales. And in 2025, it became 4% about sales. And as we sit here it's operating well above 5%. That's how it's trending. So we expect these to continue to grow in the years to come.
So how do we serve these verticals? It's not enough to show up with end-to-end business teams. But you have to have something worthwhile to sell. And specifically, what you can see here is how we position our technologies to deliver things in each vertical that, that vertical cares about. When I keep going on this, and the benefit we get with Honeywell Technologies as a pure-play automation company is now we are able to work across all the businesses in Honeywell to start to bring one Honeywell offerings.
Specifically, what you see on this chart highlighted in red, data centers, utilities and life sciences. These are the first verticals that we are tackling from a class Honeywell, where we believe we can bring on Honeywell offering that will be absolutely unmatched by any other competitor in the world. We're really excited about this.
Specifically for Building Automation, how we are serving these customers with these offerings you heard Jim will talk about the basic of our offering, which is very true for Building Automation. We have sensors, we have controls, we have software that lives on top of it. We sit at that critical intersection between the physical world and artificial intelligence. And we see a lot of value creation potential as we lead the buildings industry into true autonomous building operation.
But even within each one of those specific domains, there's a lot of opportunity to differentiate and create value. I'll share with you just one example from each.
If I start with fire, some of you may have seen how people walk around with literally with a stick that creates smoke. This is part of a -- in the U.S., that's a annual compliance test that has to be done. Typically, it takes two people wake takes one person walking around with the smoke. Sometimes it needs to help with the ladder. Another person standing next to in the back room, next to the fire panel. I just expose smoke. Do you see smoke? Yes or no. Well, all of that is gone now. We have smoke detectors that actually generate and test themselves. So you no longer need two people walking around doing the test.
And without connected life safety offering, what we are able to do now is do this test completely remotely and our connected life safety generates that report. It's a simple task, but it's 1 that takes a lot of time and one that you have to do to be in compliance. So not only have we saved the time, but we've done two important things. for our channel partners. This is a skilled labor that was not working on new projects that now is able to do that, and they are able to grow that business. And when they build the business, they grow our installed base with it.
For our end users think about the hospital and having to walk into different rooms with patients they have and having to disrupt that operation. So a lot of differentiation being created there with this capability.
If I think about security, our OnGuard platform is by far the most scalable platform and access solutions, we are able to serve customers that need to run global operations with hundreds of thousands of devices and users all off of one platform.
As we look into what we're doing next, we will -- we are taking this into a cloud native offering that is super scalable and creates a unified view for customers around the security and access operations.
And then building management, we are the very proud owner of Niagara framework. It is the most commonly spoken language in building controls that are more than independent developers around the world that use Niagara and any other thing in building management systems. And obviously, we'll continue to build on that as we take Niagara as a cloud native offering and we layer them Forge and bring in the AI capabilities to that.
Our services businesses, no surprise, will benefit greatly from our Forge and Connected Building Capabilities, as we are able to create more better outcomes for our customers, and we're able to do things on a more as-need basis as opposed to check the list.
And finally, in our Projects business, what we do there, we actually take our own products and we go install them for customers. Why do we do that? If you can think about some of our customers being global customers that operate in multiple countries around the world, they benefit from the ability for us to execute consistently around the world no matter where they are located.
And also, sometimes you have complex projects that involve multiple control domains, and this is where we do it ourselves. In our Projects business, it's about 15% of our business.
So if Projects, we're only installing 15% of our installed base who else is doing it. And this is where the very important and highly differentiated channel partner network that we have around the world comes into play.
Our channels represent over 60% of our sales. These tend to be highly capable, very nimble companies that know their customers very well. I'll work with them allows us to do two things, two things. Number one, they are able to take out innovation and scale it faster than Honeywell or any of our multinational competitors can. So they are able to drive more quickly than anybody -- bigger companies can. The other thing they do is they keep us on our toes. And they move fast. They expect us to move fast.
So as you've seen in the last few years, what we've done here in our major regions, we are serving over 80% of the needs of that region locally. And also since 2021, we've done tremendous, almost a 90% decrease in our lead times from the time the customer tells us they want something to the time we were able to ship it. And we did that while significantly improving our say = do for these partners. So great partnership works really well for us. It works really well for that for our partners and that allows us to focus on the high end of the value creation for pure-play controls.
We have a balanced portfolio mix with Fire and Security being over 2/3 of what we sell. The HVAC building management system controls is less than 1/3. So if you see that the overlap between us and the HVAC player is less. For one thing we're not doing equipment, we're just doing controls. And then obviously, the global nature of controls as opposed to when you're doing heavy equipment, lot of that for these players tends to be more focused on a regional basis.
And as you can see here, we have leading positions across the worlds in very different countries here. So, what does that do for our growth algorithm and multiple ways here for us to look at it? If I pointed that tension to the top right of the chart, when you look at other offerings, and then we'll show this as a overall Honeywell Accelerator growth algorithm. We have software growing high double digits. We have services growing in the high single digits, low double digits, and we have fabs and projects going in that mid-single-digit range. All of that gives us instrumentation to grow consistently in that high single-digit percentage.
Our vertical focus, something similar way with a different way to come at it. Our high-growth verticals growing in double digits. The established verticals growing in the mid-single digits, that gets us into that high single-digit space.
Similarly, on our regional focus between the high-growth regions and the established lesions. And last but not least, multiple years of double-digit increase in R&D investment meant that we are getting a lot more of our revenue now and the new product introduction is a real growth accelerator for us.
In fact, of the 8% that we delivered in 2025, 4.5% came from new product introduction. So clearly, those choices we are making on R&D investments are paying off and showing up in our financial performance.
So how will we continue to do this? We have the #1 position in the three critical building controlled domains, Fire and Safety, Security and Access and Energy management, and we will continue to build on that and create more differentiation.
For Connected Building has reached escape velocity, the flywheel turning. In fact, we connected more buildings in 2025 than we have since the inception of Forge several years ago and expect that to continue to accelerate and continue to grow very nicely for us.
New product introduction. New products have the blood lifeblood of an organization. You heard Vimal talk about it, that we don't delegate new product introduction. This is our responsibility as a Honeywell leadership team. In fact, 2 years ago, Suresh and I started this thing where we do every other week, we sit with our team for the good part of a full day and we review our new product work that our team is doing. And we're very proud of what the team has done in the last couple of years.
Our conversations have gone from 3 years ago where we will focus on execution. To now, our team has execution. We don't need to get involved in it. They do a very good job at it. And our conversations are more about road maps, a lot about thought leadership and all about the vision for the future. We allow individual contributive offering managers to come in and we sit there for the day and we problem solve with them. We talk about different scenarios. We're able to understand our competitive position, certainly not only from the established competitors, but also for any up-and-coming competitors. It's a great way to stay on top of the business, make sure that capital allocation is going to the right place. And it's also -- it's an amazing way to develop talent. And it's really nice to see how people pick up from these conversations and what they do with it.
And certainly, our business model is all about an installed base that we continue to monetize. And we will continue to do this. We cannot overemphasize the importance of our highly differentiated network of skilled third-party partners that help us to scale our business as we go.
Said another way, a virtuous circle of growth. We grow the installed base. We connect the assets. We leverage Forge. We deliver more outcomes, and we allow our customers to make the best utilization out of that asset. Buildings are inexpensive assets. Our customers expect us to help them get more out of that building each year.
Especially when you think about verticals where the building itself is key to the way the customer makes money, whether it's a data center or a hotel or the hospital. And Forge will play an outsized role as we move forward in connected building will be very prominent in how we help customers make better utilization and serve the customer better through the building -- what the building can do.
This is an example of that. This is -- in this case, this is Vanderbilt University. This is a project that we're working on with one of our channel partners. In fact, Vanderbilt University, one of the very few, but it just so happens that there are no Honeywell controls on that building. So we leverage our Niagara framework, and we leverage force connected building to come in and connect these buildings.
And when you see on here, clearly, the fact that we've gone from 2 weeks connected building to a few hours really helps with the return on investment. And it's not only about the energy savings and the labor savings but for Vanderbilt University, the mission is on education, and they continue to grow.
One of the obstacles for growth was how do they continue to service those buildings because they cannot find enough trained technicians. So now we take that off the table with Forge connected building, and we allow the customer to focus on that core mission, and we help with making sure that the building does not become an obstacle for that.
Another good example here in data centers. You all saw [indiscernible] talked about, she said literally helping them do things faster. If you think about how you serve the verticals, you show up with end-to-end empowered business teams, but you also have to get to a point where you truly understand what it takes for the customers in those verticals to succeed with their own customers.
And in the case of data centers, it's all about speed of scaling. And with Equinix, when you think about the commissioning of that data center, it typically takes 5 to 8 months, and this is where you find the surprises that you don't want to find. So we work with Equinix to reduce that commissioning stage by 33% and in the process, not only make it shorter, but make it more reliable and again, help Equinix focus on scaling and serving the customers they worry about commissioning a new building.
So what will this give us for the outlook? We have instrumented this business with the focus on verticals with talented empowered teams and our visions. The investments we're making on new product introduction and the acceleration we're getting from Forge connected building, we have instrumented this business to grow at high single digits. And we expect no matter what comes out from the world will be consistent in that mid single to high single-digit space.
Some of you in this on a couple of years ago, we had a lot of interesting discussions on margins and building automation. And why does building automation has the highest margins in the industry? And is that sustainable? Or we're going to have to trade-off between margins and growth.
I hope you see now that we can do both. Fundamentally, as you saw from what we just discussed, our margins and the differentiation of margins is because of our differentiated business model. The combination of us focusing on the pure-play controls. The combination of us innovating and having channel partners who can scale that innovation very quickly, and they worry about the most of the time, most of that labor content and we stay focused on the parts and smarts. That's the fundamental difference here that you see in our margins.
And the good news here, 26.5% in 2025. We see that going to 29% over the next 3 years. How is that going to happen? Well, as we are busy transforming the business and transforming good results in 2025 and 2026, we've also been investing in the business. Today, we can serve the volume growth that will come at us without having to build a single factory and in fact, without having to expand a single building. In fact, we don't even need to put any major capital investments in our factories. We've pulled up our factories to help us deliver the growth for the next 3 years.
Not only enough factories, but R&D investments, consecutive years of double-digit growth in R&D, we now have the scale we need to continue innovating effectively and quickly. And are being close to our customers, we've invested hundreds of resources in our regions and our verticals focus on demand generation. So the business is well instrumented to be able to continue to grow and benefit from the volume leverage.
I have Honeywell Accelerator framework, which is very proven, and we have a clearly proven formula that talks about pricing and productivity always exceeding inflation and investment. We did that last year, we were going to continue to do it. And that, but certainly not least, as we accelerate force connected building and our connected offering in our software recurring revenue, expect to see that margin mix continue to be favorable as we launch these products.
All in all, we have an amazing business. This is one-of-a-kind business that we'll continue to give as we invest in it. We are super excited about it, and we truly see sky is a limit for this business. Thank you.
And with that, I'll turn it over to Pete Lau, my good friend and colleague.
Please welcome President and CEO of Industrial Automation, Pete Lau.
Incredible job Billal, amazing stuff. Okay. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our Investor Day. It's good to see a few familiar faces out there. My name is Pete Lau, and I'm the President and CEO of Industrial Automation here at Honeywell. I'm excited to be here with Vimal and our colleagues today talking about Honeywell Technologies.
I am acutely aware that probably the least understood part of our portfolio is industrial automation. So I'm looking forward to explaining IA in more detail. We'll spend this time talking about our customers and our offerings, and I'll cover how IA has evolved, where we play, why we win and why we're a valuable part of Honeywell. But mostly, I'm looking forward to talking about why we're an essential part of our customers' workflows.
Okay. So it's been a bit of a journey for the businesses that make up IA today. These are product-led businesses with attractive and growing software and aftermarket offerings.
As Honeywell has evolved, these businesses have had multiple homes, a partial position in performance materials technology, a partial position in safety productivity solutions as a part of the previous $10 billion IA that I joined in October.
The opportunity here for these businesses is all about focus, focusing on these product-led businesses. Historically, IA was a part of larger entities that were dominated by project-led -- integrated project-led businesses. And trust me, those businesses take management's time. They take attention and they take an outsized portion of the investment. And the larger entities had critical mass in specific end markets like process and warehouse automation. And so the product businesses really just existed to further the interest of those entities, which means that the IA businesses did not invest enough in new products.
For solutions that are tailored to their technology in high-growth verticals. We've lacked a little bit of an identity. We've lacked an operational focus, and we've lacked rigor in these businesses. And as a result, these really good businesses have underperformed.
In the last 4 years, the pro forma for these businesses, revenue CAGR was minus 4%. NPI contribution to revenue was less than 0.5%. And gross R&D investment down 20%, our on time to delivery for our customers was 45%. As a result, we lost share.
But in the new focused portfolio that is IA with all the portfolio that work that we've done, that's going to stop. And it's already stopped. We've already started to turn the corner.
The new IA is a sensing and measurement business. And sensing and measurement forms the foundational technologies for the automation tech stack. And for the first time in over a decade, we'll be able to focus on these product-led businesses. We enable industrial automation through data collection, and we collect a lot of data across a variety of verticals in a lot of different industries and channel to markets. Our offerings are used in basically every single one of Honeywell's businesses.
Commonality for IA will be in the technologies and our operational excellence rather than in a singular end market. This setup will allow us to optimize the IA businesses in a way that we've never been able to do in the past and really drive world-class operational efficiency. This is an incredible set of businesses. IA's technologies are engineered for mission-critical environments. Precise accuracy and reliability are absolutely essential for our customers, and failure to meet those objectives carries material impact to human life, to safety, to customers' revenue, to their operations, to compliance. And we have really high barriers of entry because of those regulations. And so we have a lot of competitive differentiation.
Our offerings make up a small part of the bill of material for automation and so that implies a certain amount of price inelasticity. We built a well-deserved reputation for quality and reliability, and our installed base is substantial. So a lot of times, it's just too risky for our customers to substitute our solutions. And that creates the ability to expand our services and software offerings in a way that we've not been able to focus on the past.
With a highly focused organization and differentiated businesses in highly regulated markets, IA is primed to be a value creation engine for Honeywell over the next couple of years and beyond.
Okay. So here's -- this is a one-page overview of our businesses moving forward. And to be clear, this page really reflects Industrial Automation post the sales of Intelligrated and our PSS business.
So today, we're a $6 billion business. But after those divestitures will be about a $4 billion business and pro forma is about 20% segment margin.
As Vimal noted, we operate in a $35 billion space. And so there is a ton of opportunity for M&A. But I want to be really clear that the organic opportunity for these businesses is significant.
When I look at this page in this portfolio, I see nothing but opportunity, we're way underpenetrated in our solutions offerings. Our vertical mix is 85% skewed towards mature markets. And that's led to margin contraction.
But our new homogeneous business model will allow for focused NPI investments in higher growth verticals and higher-margin spaces, sustained focus on offerings and software offerings. And as a result, we expect to expand margins significantly.
There's meaningful white space for organic growth, either by expanding on our sensing use cases, so becoming more important to our existing customers or selectively moving up the tech stack and growing our position in instrumentation.
Today's IA is positioned to reach its full potential by allowing our businesses to flourish within their target high-growth verticals. And by pooling investments to drive world-class processes in these product-led business models.
Okay. So a little bit about where we play today, and I categorize our offering into three main areas: all directionally about the same size. And so the first is an industrial measurement.
Typically, we are measuring highly toxic gases in mission-critical environments related to human safety. They require reporting to regulatory bodies.
The second is in utility measurement. Think about the movement and measurement of resources and the mission criticality here is all about the measurement. We move billions of dollars of gas, water and electricity around our world then the third is in sensing. Sensing for the most mission-critical environments that demand the ultimate in reliability, failure is simply not an option here. Our sensors are designed into a lot of equipment, both OEM equipment and our own, and they cannot fail. And I'm going to give you an example of that in just a little bit.
The spaces we play in are all highly regulated with significant installed base, an installed base that's not fully mined to its potential and with the ability to expand our services and software offering set in a meaningful way.
About 18% of our revenue is solutions focused today. But just to give you a feel, we think entitlement is probably closer to 35%.
Understanding the technology stack is a really important part of understanding how we set up IA in the pure-play automation Honeywell. On the left-hand side of the page, I'm showing an overly simplified version of a tech stack for automation. But generally, to achieve automation, a customer first requires equipment at their site. Okay? And then that equipment generally has measurement or sensing technologies, either designed into that equipment or set in a stand-alone instrument. These are the technologies that collect data and then they deposit that data into a data link in our instance, Forge. And then the controls and the software consume that data to deliver automation.
The new IA is pretty much a slight departure from how we've generally set up the business groups in the past. Normally, in Honeywell, we moved vertically. We own the really valuable parts of the tech stack, and then we do critical mass to really drive differentiation, as Billal just described in buildings or what you'll hear from Ken and Jim in process. What's really cool about IA is that we're unique. We go horizontal. We own the sensing and measurement portion of the tech stack. We collect the data that enables automation. And this is a really fragmented but extremely valuable part of the tech stack. Especially when you play a highly regulated or highly specified use case -- specified use cases, and that's our core business. The horizontal setup will allow us to pursue meaningful white space both inorganically and organically.
Just a reminder, we're a $4 billion business and a $35 billion space. So with our new configured focus, we're free to invest in new products in high-growth end markets, in really attractive spaces with great cash flow margin and capitalize on our pooled investments that are applicable to these common business models.
Just to bring to life our solutions a little bit and where they show up across industries. As a sensing and measurement platform, we're designed into a lot of instruments and a lot of equipment. We tend to show up everywhere. Inherently, we cover a lot of geography. But I want to point out a couple of use cases or industries that will continue to focus our organic and inorganic efforts towards.
We make critical sensing technologies highly regulated industries, industries like aerospace, industries like utility, industries in life science, where I partner with Jim and PA to deliver a differentiated offering.
And then we make sensing and measurement technologies for highly regulated use cases in less regulated industries. Semiconductor is a great example. Industrial is a great example. Petrochemical, where we team up with Ken to deliver a differentiated solution is incredible.
These are just a few examples of how our product and solutions drive mission criticality in our markets and across the world.
So in summary, IA is an extremely differentiated businesses with many tangible proof points. 90% of our offerings are certified either to very tight specifications or to regulatory requirements. That makes us competitively advantaged.
Our solutions have a high cost of failure and are a small part of the overall bill of material for our customers, which makes our customers reluctant to change. And this enables deep domain expertise and customer intimacy that solidifies our relationships across a very vast and growing installed base. And that intimacy and that installed base serves as a launch point for more life cycle services and solutions.
So to give an example, one of the parts of our portfolio that's extremely differentiated is our sensing business. Most of the sensing portfolio is highly engineered solutions that are designed into products, whether they be OEM systems or so many Honeywell instruments. This makes the business extremely sticky and gives us multiyear visibility into revenue tied to our customers' product life cycles.
And so to bring that sensing to story of life a little bit, let's take a look at our ultra-high four sensitivity sensors, that our customers use to ensure reliable medication delivery for health care patients.
A good example is Fresenius. So Fresenius along with a lot of other medical device makers, sells millions of infusion and dialysis machines every year. These are regulated devices that are FDA certified. Health care facilities use these to really identify potential events that would block a fluid pathway of medication. The solution is mission critical for patient safety. HSS's sensors can simply touch a fluid delivery line and identify these events, enabling our customers to deliver really reliable solutions.
The sensor is mission-critical in the ultimate of high-risk environments, it can mean the difference between life and death for a patient. These customers have been trusting us to design these sensors into their equipment for many decades.
The risk of change for them is massive. If I'm on the other side, I'm not trusted anybody else but Honeywell to continue to design these sensors as we have for decades. Plus, these customers get the knowledge that the unique sensing elements are made and are owned and operated wafer fab in Richardson, Texas, which is a competitive advantage in this industry.
Last year, we made 200 million unique sensing elements alone in just that fab.
Okay. So here's another example of IA's highly differentiated capabilities this time in gas detection in the semiconductor fab.
So most of you know that semiconductors use a host of highly toxic flammable gases to create wafers, right? Monitoring for gas leaks is mission critical, not just for human safety. But the accuracy of that measurement is so important because uptime and fabs is worth $2 million of productivity an hour. Honeywell's comprehensive gas solution -- gas detection system is the standard for hazardous gas detection. We are the specification in every single semiconductor manufacturer across the world. And again, we benefit from having done this with these folks for multiple decades.
And that enables us to partner and offer life cycle solutions. So it's an OpEx and a CapEx solution. It's the gift that keeps on giving. But these are just a few examples of how our products and solutions support mission-critical applications across a wide range of industries.
And so before I hand it over to Jim and Ken, I want to leave you with a summary of what all this means for IA's future.
The opportunity for these businesses to finally be in a home with similar business models is massive. Over the next 3 years, the revenue of this business is going to grow mid-single digits and we'll reach 25% operating margin. And so to tie that back to earlier in the presentation, it's a drastic change in our revenue growth fortunes, but also 500 basis points of segment margin expansion in the next 3 years.
And it's not back-end loaded. I feel very bullish about the second half of 2026 and 2027. We're going to do this by focusing on three key revenue levers in the Honeywell growth algorithm that Vimal talked about.
First, we're going to increase our exposure to high-growth verticals through a combination of NPI, channel expansion and go-to-market. As I talked about earlier, only 15% of our business is exposed to high-growth verticals today. But as we shift our mix, we're going to stay true to our core and really expand in highly regulated environments where we have unique differentiation, which means the right to play and the right to win.
Second, we're doubling down our investment full stop. In the last 18 months, we've increased our R&D investment by 13%. And over the next 3 years, we're going to do another 15% to 20%. Like Billal has done with buildings, we are going to turn this business into new product introduction machines. We are going to relentlessly focus on building solutions that really drive customer value and give solutions to our customers that they want. We'll do this in our core, where we know we already have relationships with these customers, and we'll do this in close adjacencies to our core where our technology has an obvious fit.
And then third, as we grow that vast install base through #1 and #2, we're going to compound customer value by delivering more solutions and offering set. Look, as a part of these larger businesses, we did not focus enough on solutions. And we talked in our tech demo today about different solutions for aftermarket that we're going to be able to do. We highlighted Safety Suite, which is a software service that's based on CLSS. Some of you may not know, but I was the President of the Fire business in Buildings when we launched the CLSS that Billal was talking about. Billal of course, is supercharged it. But Safety Suite is based on that CLSS.
This is a core competency for Honeywell. One that we know how to do and one that we'll do really well. And then last, on the right-hand side of the page, we'll apply Honeywell Accelerator to all that we do. The operational excellence that's not been a focus in these businesses is absolutely fertile ground. We have a clear path to expanding margins through better pricing, productivity and then stranded cost reduction through all the portfolio moves that we've done in IA.
But we'll apply a milestone funding approach to this. We'll responsibly invest, but we'll do it in concert with growth. The productivity that's in these fertile grounds will allow us to not just expand margins, but also simultaneously invest heavily in the growth of this business.
And when we start growing, look out, the thing that I'm most excited about in this business is the leverage that exists in it. Look, these are extremely high variable contribution margin businesses. So as the revenue starts to turn, the operating leverage that exists in this business is incredible.
So the refocused IA as a sensing and measurement business is prime to reach its full potential. Into my 20,000 colleagues around the world that are sitting in watch parties right now in Shanghai, in Pune, in Dubai, in Mines, Raleigh, Charlotte, Muncie, Houston and Richardson, Texas, I can't wait to create value with you guys. So thanks so much for your time, and I'm going to hand it over to my dear friends, Jim and Ken to talk about PA&T.
Please welcome President and CEO of Process Automation, Jim Masso; and President and CEO of Process Technology, Ken West.
So to start, something we know a little bit different with this presentation. There's two of us on stage, Ken West, who leads our Process Technology Business; and myself, Jim Masso, who leads the Process Automation business.
Now in my almost 1 year with Honeywell, I know before coming in, how incredible the technology of this business was. And I was excited to be a part of the transformation.
But nothing has been more amazing to me than the transformation I've seen over the last almost 12 months.
At the intersection of the deep domain knowledge and intellectual property informed by 141 years of innovation in process technology paired with the unique and leading software and automation capabilities and process automation, where we're at the heart of every one of our customers' operations.
Now this was clearly illustrated to me earlier this week at the Honeywell Users Group in Phoenix that I just got here from. We had a little over 600 of our customers and a number of our partners, NVIDIA, Google, Cisco, all excited to partner with us and the enthusiasm was incredible. The value we're unlocking by bringing these capabilities together is amazing. The transformation is having a direct impact on our customers' operation every day.
And I can say, Jim, having been here at Honeywell over the last 7 years, I've been a part of that evolution as we've gone from Performance Materials and Technology, to energy and sustainability solutions and now to Process Automation and technology.
And you're absolutely right. It is different. It feels different today as we really unlock the value of the cross-sell opportunity through our combined offerings and we are driving differentiation through that distinct domain expertise.
Thanks, Ken. Now there's a lot of things I want you to take away today, but here's four to start. The first is this is an incredible market opportunity. And 30% of that market opportunity, we're in these high-growing verticals where we have deep domain expertise, in LNG, in life sciences, in low-carbon solutions and grid infrastructure. And we're systematically cross-selling across all of Honeywell technologies, enabling end-to-end life cycle value in a way that no other company can.
Our installed base is massive. And we're continuing to create value across over 28,000 assets and monetizing that even further with Honeywell's unique Forge infrastructure.
Furthermore, we're expanding margin through the Honeywell Operating System, both in operational excellence as well as adding additional service capabilities across the long tail of life on these assets.
Now let's talk about the business, the $6.4 billion business, with, again, end-to-end life cycle solutions across both physical and digital applications. we served last year over 4,197 customers, in 72 countries with, again, software and automation capabilities that are defining their operation with differentiated domain expertise in the critical verticals we play. Amplifying that value with connected solutions with AI and a platform enabling enterprise level impact across these critical verticals where we have these unique capabilities.
Jim, that's actually where the real power unlock comes in PA&T. It really comes from that deep domain expertise you mentioned at the beginning. And when I think about the other solutions that are out there in the marketplace, this is where we truly are unmatched. No one else in the industry can bring together the capabilities of truly physical twins, I mean, hundreds of pilot plants behind the scenes, getting true data merging that into our operating system.
Yes, Ken, I completely agree. Now let's talk about where we play. These are some of the markets we're in as PA&T. And one thing you should see immediately on this slide, these are critical industries. The risk of loss is massive. Customers have to look at safety resiliency and ensuring when they make these massive investments, they've got the right strategic partner to bring it through.
Our services and expertise is amplifying that value for every one of our customers. and then we're connecting it with digital solutions that further enable value. Not to mention, we have over 0.25 century of cybersecurity experience. And what we're able to do is take our unique Process knowledge and direct telemetry to do things in cybersecurity, no one else can, using AI and other advanced solutions to keep ahead of the curve and keep our customers' OT infrastructure safe.
Not to mention, and a lot of companies are talking about autonomous operations. We're already doing it, embedding critical intellectual property and years of data directly into our customers' control systems, allowing them to improve outcomes, improve yield and operate with a lot more certainty.
Now I'm going to pick two, although there's many where we're cross-selling across all of the reported segments in Honeywell. The first is life sciences. Now I'll talk a little bit more about this today, but our building automation, industrial automation and Process Automation businesses all play a critical role in this end market. Grid infrastructure is another one where we're seeing a lot of growth. And we're across the entire energy value chain of the grid from creating energy to our control systems being on over 50 gigawatts of installed base of power to our grid management capabilities with our smart meter business that sits in industrial automation.
Not to mention in Process Automation, we do behind and in front of the meter energy storage with energy management systems that enable microgrids as well as on grid automation.
Furthermore, we pair that capability with our building automation business, enabling virtual power plants, and more scale and impact to a number of these energy management solutions.
Now let's talk a little bit about the portfolio and what makes it up. The first intellectual property, unique domain expertise in our Process Technology Business, where we have unique knowledge of our customer system all the way from inception through the end of life. Not to mention a robust and durable services business and with catalysts and absorbents, constantly increasing our customers' profitability and yield. Not to mention aftermarket services that spans across the entire portfolio. Again, life cycle relationships with these customers constantly moving them to the upper quartile of operations.
And then our automation and control systems, again, extensive industry experience, unique software capabilities. And we take our domain knowledge and directly embedded into some of the most reliable solutions in the world.
Now you then pair that with digital and cybersecurity, where we maximize and elevate the customer value. These solutions allow us to unlock more incrementally. And just Process Automation alone, when you take our services and software, got around $1 billion of ARR, again, differentiated solutions that stick with our customers throughout the life cycle.
All right. Well, one of the exciting things in Process Automation and technology is truly how we go to market and what we deliver to the customer. So you heard a lot of great things about our domain expertise and why we go with customers. But what does that customer journey look like?
Many of you know the value of Honeywell UOP. This is a 112-year-old legacy of technology, engineering and expertise. This gets our foot in the door. Many times 2 to 3 years before a project, whether it's a refinery, a petrochemical plant, a new renewable fuels plant or an LNG plant is even starting with construction.
So once our foot is in the door, we have the start. And we bring on top of that right at the very beginning of the project, the capabilities of merging all of that data that we have, the analytics and the know-how behind the scenes, the domain expertise. We merged that with our automation capabilities. We commissioned the construction, sometimes in a modular basis in challenging countries around the world and then doesn't stop there.
Now we take that installed base. As Jim said, over 28,000 units around the world, and that installed base we monetize it for ARR, recurring revenue out into the future. We have the benefit of not only building these plants, but we provide consumables, things like catalysts and absorbents to the plants that are going to provide that life cycle.
This really feeds into and builds out the growth algorithm that Vimal spoke about in the beginning of the presentation and why this growth is so powerful.
And so just a few proof points of why -- how we win when we're out there. Well, today, about 70% of all of the fuels anywhere around the world in gasoline are actually produced on Honeywell UOP technology. We're, in fact, in more than 2/3 of LNG installations. So when you think about where -- why we did some of the acquisitions that we did, the Process technology business from Air Products or the Sundyne business that we brought together to build that end-to-end solution, we were already in 40% of LNG trains with our pretreatment technology. We added this together and we get into end solutions.
And not only that, all of these installed solutions around the world give us a capability to automate that installed base. We're automated in more than 700 of those customers. And in fact, that includes not just energy, but it also includes high-growth industries like life sciences when we're in 8 out of the top 10 med tech companies.
So how does the growth really come together? Well, when we take a look at it, this has been an industry that we recognize has been somewhat lower growth, low single digit and cyclical over the history.
When we bring together these new capabilities that are unlocked in PA&T, we are able -- we are moving into higher growth verticals, verticals like LNG, low-carbon energy and life sciences. We are going out and monetizing that installed base that we talked about. Providing an avenue for new connected solutions for driving recurring revenue as we go forward.
And the thing I'm most excited about is we're driving true cross-sell synergies. Now when we do this, these synergies allow us to be in at the beginning. We're not getting into a price war as we go down and we drive that application, and we broaden the scope later in the project.
Yes. One of the things I get really excited when I see this slide because I know the impact it's having on our customers, we're unlocking outsized margin for Honeywell, but major impact for our customers.
Absolutely. And there's no better place to think about that than within LNG. And as we've expanded our capabilities in LNG. We take a look at this broader offering. And the broader offering brings together, as I said, not only over 40 years of experience in UOP pretreatment and developing LNG capabilities. It also brings the acquisition we did of compressor controls in our automation business. It brings together the acquisition of the Air Products, liquefaction technology, and it brings together the Sundyne technology.
Now we have an integrated end-to-end solution that is turnkey. It takes away the risk of -- and mitigates the risk of budget. It takes away the risk of schedule. We can provide a one-stop shop for our customers to come in and do the project with us.
But I think what's important as you look at the verticals to the right is we remain focused in this business on a balanced approach and on the 70% that's core. When you take a look over to the focus on the left as well. So yes, we're going into high-growth verticals, yes, that's adding to our growth, but we're remaining focused on the core of the business. And I also think that separates us a little bit from where our competition has been because we have not moved up and down through the different cycles.
Yes. So another high-growth vertical where we're having a huge impact, where we've quietly become the largest life sciences business in the markets we serve at around $600 million of revenue.
And this one is really interesting. We're serving with biopharma and medical devices with over 1 million users just of our quality software alone. Now to kind of bring this to life, I was talking with one of our large biopharma customers last month. They have over 300 treatments they want to bring to market. Some of these treatments are life-saving with AI used in drug discovery and all of the advancements in research they're looking to bring these technologies to life.
Now challenge number one, speed matters, bringing these treatments to life in a predictable way is essential. And when you bring building automation, so looking at the facility, they're going to be manufactured in Process Automation enabling the actual process to run with industrial automation, actually measuring the process, you're able to bring these treatments to market faster, building a new facility in a way that no other company can enable.
Now quality. Two reasons why this is so important. First is we're talking about more challenging manufacturing operations. In biopharma, we're talking about culturing treatments in human cells. Small variations can have a major impact to the predictability of the operation. Not to mention the second, ensuring that when you make this large investment, and we're talking about almost $300 billion of on-shoring of life sciences manufacturing. In this country alone, over the next 5 years, these are big investments. And when you make them, they need to work.
So bringing environmental control together with Process Automation and then our quality software that ties this all together and allows continuous improvement, enables these offerings to have certainty on their operation. And enabling a quality that no other company can unlock with these combined solutions.
And then lastly, energy optimization. So I talked about grid infrastructure. These have an environmental footprint. They need energy. They need water. So looking at our building automation business and our Process Automation business as well as our ability to manage energy in and out of the facility with our Industrial Automation business, we're able to scale these operations in a sustainable way.
This isn't just changing one facility. This is fundamentally changing our customers' business model and enabling a revolution in life sciences.
Now we need to talk about our installed base, a massive installed base of over 28,000 systems. As I mentioned before, more than half of our business is in the aftermarket. We have a large services installed base, and that's growing. Now when I add that, we're also adding Connected, which is growing at a rapid rate. Now you'll see in Process Automation. Only 14% of our systems are connecting, but that is growing quick. Same thing in process technology around 13%. And what we're able to do as we connect what is an increasingly robust model, we're able to unlock incremental value.
The first I'll mention is resilience. So OT cybersecurity. These are critical assets Honeywell's OT cybersecurity solution is unique. Again, we're using proactive solutions to help monitor a scaling threat. Furthermore, we're enabling outcomes, unlocking enterprise insights that are critical to our customers' operations and then a critical thread at every single site workforce. Every scaling process facility is struggling to fill the talent gap. And these systems unlock incremental understanding and capability within each of these systems.
And then with process technology, directly embedding intellectual property with our connected plant offerings, engineering services, understanding catalysts, again, ensuring resilient operations, enabling our customers to do things better. This is a long-term impact.
Now let me hand it over to Ken to talk a little bit more about this.
Yes. Actually, Jim, just even on this slide, I'll say this. It's exciting to me, this is where this starts to get to be exponential growth. If you look at these numbers, that 1,075 of connected plants or process technology, just a couple of years ago, what would that have been, it would have been 0. We wouldn't have had any. And you see how many of those are getting recurring revenue contracts.
So this is where we've taken that investment that we've made within Honeywell Forge. We've unlocked that with our capabilities with Process Automation, and we've really built combined offerings. So when you ask what makes it different, that's what makes it different.
Now, I'll go into just maybe a brief story, we saw the customer testimonial is early because we can come up all day and say how much we have an offering that works together, but are the customers seeing it? And really are.
I had the opportunity about 18 months ago to meet Mr. Dangote, who you saw in the customer testimonial. And I mean in Italy for dinner, and we talked through some of the expansions that he was doing within his refinery.
And he knew Honeywell UOP very well, and we were a hook that got us in to help with the expansion of his refinery, one of the largest in the world. But what I can tell you is this, once we got through that conversation and he understood the data we were collecting on other facilities around the world. He understood the 100 process plants we had in our R&D centers that were literally mockups running 24/7 of almost every refinery in the world and the fact that we were bringing 3.5 billion data points a day off of these. He, all of a sudden, it clicked on him, the value was there, and he said, "Look, I really want to go with Honeywell". And not only that, he took contracts away from others for the automation side of the business and brought this as a combined offering. That's when it clicked for me and I realized, wow, we have something powerful here.
As we take a look at what this means for us as we go, we talked a lot about the growth levers here over the last few minutes between Jim and I. We're unlocking that incremental growth through high-growth verticals like LNG, in low-carbon energy, life sciences, we're monetizing this broader installed base. And we're also going and managing that cross-sell with folks just like Mr. Dangote at what we were able to do there. But what we really are driving more than that is a big leverage and margin improvement.
Our capabilities, when we go into these higher-growth industries, we have a differentiated position. Our position of coming together with an end-to-end solution, no one can match that provides us the lever to be able to drive the margin that's there. I can tell you firsthand, this is working as I stand in front of you. We shared in some of our public earnings releases a little bit about the order rates, particularly within process technology. We have very good line of sight into the future in the long-cycle business. We are seeing order rates that are there and predicting that they will drive future growth. We've been driving higher than 1.2 book to bills over the past few quarters, and this is going to drive a very good result and very good growth in this business in the second half of 2026 and beyond.
So I'm incredibly excited to be here. Thank you so much for a few minutes to listen. And with that, I am going to invite Mark and my other colleagues up to the stage to do our first Q&A session with all of us. Thank you.
Great. So we're going to spend the first 10 minutes or so addressing some key questions we get from investors in each of the segments, and I promise you we're going to open it up to Q&A as promised.
So Billal, maybe we'll start with you. Every investment meeting we have, one of the first questions we get on Building Automation is the how? How does this business grow 7%, 8%, 9% every quarter.
And the second question immediately goes to, is it sustainable? So maybe we'd start there.
Thanks, Mark. I mean you see a couple of years ago, Building Automation was not performing like this. And it's all about the transformation in the last couple of years around customer centricity. Speed and effectiveness of innovation and then having the absolute best talent empowered to do what they do best to get it done. And that has really allowed us to do this. And we've instrumented this business to continue to do that for the years to come.
Excellent. And then maybe sticking with Buildings, maybe you could just talk about the levers to grow margins, obviously, issued some pretty good targets for segment margin.
I mentioned a little bit about this. In fact, a couple of years ago, we walked into the fact of these and everybody was talking about, oh, we need to knock the wall down and expand if you're really going to be driving the growth and so on.
So we challenged our team and said, let's think about how we think about that, how we use the space. And in fact, a couple of weeks ago, I was visiting one of those factories. And it's helping us -- this is one of the factors that's driving the highest growth right now, close to double digits. And when you walk into that factory, you think that business is slow because they have taped off all these empty areas.
And I said, you challenged us to lean and continuous improvement and Kaizen projects to reduce our open we've done it, tell us come, keep growing this business. That's just one example. And then obviously, in the rest of the business and R&D and in demand generation capabilities, we've made all those investments. We are where we need to be to deliver our commitments for the next 3 years. So when the volume comes in, it's going to have a really great leverage for us, along with the acceleration of our force connected offerings and the margin favorability that those will bring.
Excellent Great. Pete, on IA, you've talked about being a bit of a turnaround story. So maybe as you step back, how could we help investors get comfortable that this business is going to sharply inflect to mid-single digit and obviously, strong margin expansion as well?
Yes. I think I wouldn't disagree with any skepticism because over the last couple of years, it has been a negative 4% CAGR story. But the portfolio moves that we made, the focus is really important.
And just if I was just going to go back to the basics for a second. Vimal talked about our markets growing at 3%. I told you that our on-time delivery was 45%. So when that happens, you don't participate in market growth.
And so just really fixing our operations. I truly believe the market is going to grow at 3%. We feel really good about that. I feel good about our ability to fix our operations and participate in the market growth.
And then when you do that, you can actually get a couple of points of price. And so that should be a flywheel, right, that we get a couple of points of price a year on top of that market growth. And that's before we even start talking about the growth algorithm that we talked about, the move to higher growth verticals, the investment in new products and the services and the software.
So I feel really confident about the growth. On the margin expansion of 500 basis points, I go as far as a guarantee, I feel really good about where we are, where we sit right now and the opportunity ahead for the businesses. And then the operational leverage, it's -- I feel really good about it.
Excellent. Great. Maybe quickly moving to Process for Jim and Ken. Obviously, Ken as you noted, you've spoken a lot about the orders and backlog growth in your business and that we expect a sharp inflection in the back half to sort of high single-digit growth for your business. So obviously, it's somewhat tough maybe for investors to underwrite that, especially what's going on in the Middle East. So maybe just take a minute, talk about what you're seeing and why the confidence in that growth inflection?
Well, first, just given the events even in the last few days, my thoughts are with all of our partners that are in the Middle East and operating in the Middle East every day. It's become a very, very challenging place. I will -- I've been over there over the last few weeks. I'll be back over there next week.
What I can say is this that the nice thing about energy is the demand profile behind it. And the fact the world needs more energy tomorrow than it has today. And when there's a disruption in one area, we see upticks in other areas around the world. And so that is absolutely occurring. We've seen refurbishments, catalyst reloads that may not have happened. So we're seeing a return to that activity.
And then very unfortunate, but there's many facilities across the Middle East that are our technology and our equipment that have been impacted, and we're going to be brought in to help do the refurbishment and rebuilds that's already getting started. We're already partnering with many of those. And so we see that as a tailwind for us.
Great. Okay. And then, Jim, starting with Vimal's presentation, we talked a lot about the enhanced focus on some of these higher growth verticals. So maybe just dive a little deeper for everyone into the life sciences as an example.
Yes. When you think about unlocking the power of focus and the partnerships we've been able to have across all the businesses here represented on stage, it's amazing, right?
I mean, you think about the problems our customers are trying to solve, right? They have to have absolute assurance when a facility is built. It's going to do what it was designed to do. And so that -- again, environmental control with the ability to directly measure the system. And then run that process with a quality thread with our track-wise quality, again, allowing this feedback loop to keep improving and scaling operations.
This is going to be one of the backbones that the life sciences industry is built on for decades to come. This cross-sell is doing something where we're all using a lot of the same tools. We're all on similar software, we're all connected into this forge platform.
Again, these businesses together are having a real impact on how our customers do business.
Excellent. And maybe just on the high-growth verticals, Billal. Maybe you can talk a bit about -- you mentioned data centers going from next to nothing to 4% to 5% of revenue. So what is it that BA does in that space?
It's about how you show up and you have to have end-to-end teams focus on it that understand that space. And then you have to make sure that you position your offering in a good way.
If I think about data centers, we have the #1 solution for advanced fire detection and data center, and we added Lion Tamer for Lithium-ion battery fire detection to that. In building management systems, we're leveraging Niagara to help our customers drive through the integration within the building domain console.
And then on the Access Control side, we have some of the most complex global networks of access control that OnGuard platform does. So showing up understanding what it takes for your customers to succeed and then making sure that we position our offerings to help them deliver what they need to deliver to their customers.
Excellent. Great. Before we open it up for Q&A with everyone, just maybe one last question. We often get asked, even after all the work we've done in why do these businesses still belong together?
And I think from our perspective, one of the things that binds them is the cross-sell opportunity. So maybe just in 30 seconds you need to -- one tangible example on the cross-sell opportunity in your business. Can we start at the end, Ken?
Sure. For me in process technology, it's domain expertise. What makes us differentiated is the fact that we truly have the technology, the models behind the scenes that are going to augment the pure-play automation of Honeywell technologies.
Yes, I look at the certainty we can provide. Again, the domain expertise of process technology coming in, it has been fantastic to work with customers, not to mention bringing our capabilities with the building automation business to data centers with Pete's business to semiconductor fab, right? These are just incredible impacts that no other company can do.
Yes, I'd just say in a word, everywhere. We're sensing and measurement business. We were embedded in all of these businesses. But if I had to pick one, I choose semiconductor since we become really intentional about showing up as one Honeywell, we -- our business leads in semiconductor because we are the specification for gas detection. And just last week, had a great conversation with a major semiconductor player who a lot of equipment runs on similar batteries in the fab and had a really great conversation about Lion Tamer, which is a gas detection and Billal's business. So there's a lot there.
Well, everything is a building. In fact, it's our building. So in the case of Ken's business and Process Technologies, what we do, in some cases, very hard for other people to do. So we leveraged that high differentiation to bring in building automation along what we do with Pete's technologies.
And data centers, as an example, liquid cooling requires a lot of new sensing capabilities. that did not exist. And Pete's team are developing some really compelling solutions there. So we're able to bring those.
And then in Jim's business, we're able to bring that high level control system of systems and bring that approach along with PLC controls into the data center space.
Excellent. Great. So let's move to a live Q&A, and I'll just ask that everyone to introduce themselves when they're hand to the mic. So maybe we can start with Julian Mitchell of Barclays.
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Julian Mitchell at Barclays. Maybe Pete, start with you. If you think about the operational side of things in IA, you mentioned the OTIF very bad. So maybe help us understand on some of those operating KPIs like what should we expect as the rate of improvement?
Also, you had that Page 52, which had some maroon boxes but masses of white space around it. When we look at that, is the assumption that the white space will be filled in through M&A coming up, and that block will be very kind of fully covered in a few years' time?
And then lastly, who are the main peers but we should think about comparing you with in the segment, whether aspirational or just who you fight with day-to-day?
Okay. Yes. Cool, I'll take those in order, Julian. Yes, I think the first one is really just about customer satisfaction. With Vimal leading Honeywell, he's made it and he said it at the outset, everything that we do and we talk about is customers and customer obsession is a real thing.
And so if that means putting in $20 million of extra inventory on a bet that we're going to make that up in second margin that flows to cash flow. That's what we're going to do. And we have the we have the latitude to make those sorts of decisions. And so the big things we'll look at is customer set, we'll look at delivery. We'll look at actually, time to resolve our quality cases is probably a bigger deal than our quality metric right now. So there's a lot of things that feed into that. But ultimately, we're going to judge ourselves on free cash flow margin, operating profit and revenue growth.
A second question, I forgot...
The white space.
The white space, yes. Look, we're going to do both. Organically and inorganically where we see an opportunity and together we make the decision to go inorganically. We're going to go inorganically.
Organically, we're probably going to stay a little closer to our core than we otherwise would become more important to our existing customers we've got still a lot of places that we can go in aerospace and in data centers, solutions that we don't have today that where the customer uses or we've got a spoon today, we're going to offer the fork in the knife. In the salad and fork too, right? We have that opportunity to do that. And that's a higher right to play and a right to win a higher probability win. So we'll probably do that.
And then, of course, we've got some work on paying down debt, reducing the interest expense. And once we get through that, and Mike and Vimal will say we're ready to go, we're working a list of high-value targets.
In terms of competition and peers, we're pretty broad space. We've got point competitors everywhere, but I think of us more as like -- if you think about a peer business and AMETEK, Teledyne and IDEXX. Those are the kind of quality of businesses that we have, the kind of the cash flow that I think that we can put off. Or the [ Ralliant ] business, for example, those are the kind of people that I would say the best way to look at us is think about it from a peer perspective and not competitive because there's no one company that we compete with in every place that we play.
Great. See it there. Go to Scott Davis right on the end.
Thank you, guys. Pete, to what extent will you integrate these assets, I mean there they're very different, but you also seem to have a lot of confidence that there's some synergies. So to what extent will you -- will they stay decentralized versus having some level of demand and control centralized?
Yes. I mean, we're going to do -- like we're going to follow the accelerator playbook, right? And so for me, world-class processes across engineering, where it makes sense. Operations, supply chain where it makes sense, productivity on variable costs and supplier negotiations.
To an extent, our pricing processes, right, we'll do that. Offering specific R&D, we want to be very close to the customers for those business units. So we won't touch that. It will be more in the operational processes, and that's how we're going to drive the margin expansion.
And I'm just curious, just each one of you can give a 10-second answer, so we can keep this flowing. But why is price so much easier to get today than 3 years ago? It can't just be new products. There has to be more to it than that.
I can start. The price is ultimately about the value that you deliver and the ease which you're able to do pricing as to how much value there levering. And far you live the new products is a big part of it. But how you do a job every single day when your customers ask your question, when you deliver something to a customer, the speed of innovation, all of those come into the value creation that you do for customers, specifically in building automation, that group of some of the other businesses.
What we sell into our channel is less than 20% of the cost of our channel to go do something. To the extent that we have that 80% is sitting in the labor and design and engineering, to the extent that we are able to go and tap into that 80% and help them make that 80% lower, that gives us a lot of opportunity to create value.
I could add maybe as well. We have different tools today than we have been -- so if I think about it 3 years ago, we were developing the tools we're using today. So we have some of the best tools I've seen in the industry in terms of real-time looks at what our raw materials are at a SKU level at a base raw material we saw very quickly we had built out a model as the impact of tariffs came on.
And these real-world models that we have skills, give us the tools behind the scenes, as we're running our pricing reviews to know exactly where we need to be. So I just think the speed of decision-making is increased with the tools we have behind the scenes.
This thing around mission-critical matters. I mean we are in really high-impact environments across all these businesses. And so when you think about sort of some of the lower end of the spectrum of automation. We're in these critical facilities where, again, everything we do has to work. It has to deliver an outcome.
And so when I look at what we've been able to do with price, I completely agree with what we said. I think we're all -- we talk a lot about our operating model, how we get effective scale. But the markets we're in, we're having a real impact. When we talk about this cross-selling, we really are doing things that others can't. And so that directly correlates to how we position in the market.
One on. I just wanted to just -- Scott, to your point on how much of commonalities in Industrial Automation businesses and will be -- what processes may come in. I want to draw a parallel to Building Automation business. While Billal's business serves same end market our channels in fire, security and BMS are unique, we don't share any channel partner. So Billal has unique offerings for each one and each channel, but back end is common, factory, pricing process, we are applicating the same model. It's exactly the copying the same model. The it appears everything is same, but in reality, it is not.
In fact, we do not share channel partners for the reason we'll appreciate. And that scale is highly replicable in industrial automation. So I want to clarify that this is not a new invention. We're basically copying what we always have been very successful.
Yes. Let's go to Deane Dray of RBC.
Thank you. Appreciate all the color here today and what you all did to put this together. I'd love to hear a bit more about the statistic that Vimal gave on new product vitality, the mid-40s is an extraordinarily high number for an organization. I'd love to hear just a bit from the team. How do you manage it within your business incentives and the concern about cannibalization as you maintain such a high level of new product introductions.
Why don't we start with Billal.
Yes. Sure. Then we'll touch on it, the importance about offering management, and we've put a lot into our offering management community. At Honeywell, when we think about innovation, we can engineer anything. I grew up at Honeywell. I first started annual 22 years ago. We never failed because we cannot come up engineer this solution. The trick for us and the challenge for us is to make sure that we are working on the right thing. And that's why we spend so much time without offering management team.
And to your question about the incentives and so on, they are planning to have many businesses within the larger ecosystem, and they're getting compensated just like a GM would on top line and bottom line free cash flow growth. So that allows us to -- that focus we've done the offering management in the last couple of years has really helped us to turn the corner on the effectiveness of our new product offerings.
And your question about cannibalization and so on, our core is very strong. So as we work on new exciting ideas like Forge connected building, which is completely new and some of the other things we talked about today, we make sure that we keep an eye on our core because that was so crucial to keep going. And this is how we make sure that the vitality and that's where the vitality comes in, that people will want to continue to buy these additional products as we lay in new solutions on top of them.
Yes. I would say on that one, too, we measure it not just in vitality, but in net new, right? So it's a net NPI number. And so vitality is always then going to be a little bit bigger because your core is shrinking and you're intentionally shrinking that core to get new products. So it's not just the one metric, but they work in concert with each other.
I think as well on the long life cycle businesses. We have put in a distinct investment in some of the longer cycle research as well as new product innovation that's going to come out in the 1 to 2 years. So we monitor our investment very closely, and we have a very strong feedback loop to say when is the project working and when is it not working so we can make fast decisions and be nimble with that spending. And we've seen that review even on a monthly basis at every level of our organization.
Excellent. Let's go to Jeffrey Sprague of Vertical Research.
Great. Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So we can all probably clearly understand that connected is good and connected with ARR is even better right? But as long as I've been doing this, Honeywell has been an installed base, harvesting installed base play, right? So we've had all this technology innovation. We've got Forge, et cetera, et cetera.
But we heard a lot of good stuff about the customer outcome the outcome to Honeywell is obviously embedded in the guide that you're sharing with us. But I'm wondering if you could give us some context on that, right? A piece of installed base that goes to something you're servicing regular way old way to now connected, now with ARR. Some way to think about the context around that, whether it's points of organic growth or something along those lines?
And then separately, just Ken or Jim, can you just give us a little bit more color on the energy cycle that might be unfolding in front of us and whether that gets you to promise land on your organic growth all alone without everything else you've talked about.
Both are good, Jeff, and I can give you a little bit on both. First off, I mean, a great example is one. I don't know if you happen to see it in our demonstration over here or not. But as we're connecting to each of these process units, we're learning a lot more about it. And one example where we're changing the customer outcome is on digital imaging of catalyst.
So as many of you know, Catalyst is something that a customer puts into a refinery every sometimes 1 or 2 years, sometimes 3 to 5 years depending on the product. And it's a very nice cycle for us because it provides a revenue stream.
And in the past, what customers had to do is they had to go pull a sample out of the bottom of that catalyst unit, send it to a lab, analyze it many times, by the time they realize the catalyst was bad. The refinery is already losing efficiency. It's already starting to go down and it has a problem. We're now through our connected solution able to do that every day, let the customer know exactly when they should change the catalyst or if they have a plug somewhere in the system and let them know they should be proactive.
We have another customer that's running a PDH unit. This is a unit that provides plastics from crude oil. And they were having all kinds of problems. In fact, both Vimal and I were down to meet with them. There's a big challenge with it. And we've been connected to that unit, put our engineers down there, been able to fix the problem and showing that we can bring that up. Those are the kind of examples that I can share with folks like Mr. Dangote to be able to drive this integrated growth. So that's kind of the first piece of where we're seeing the customer outcome.
And I'd say it is an exciting time to be in the energy industry right now. We're seeing really almost unprecedented growth in certain areas. The time that we put the investments in place to do LNG. We had done the strategic research ahead of time to understand it was an attractive play, but I don't even think we realized how attractive that was going to be with the need for more power and now particularly with the need to move power between continents. So that's going to continue to unlock that growth and provide better results here, second half and beyond.
Yes. And it's important to mention, a lot of businesses are being disrupted by a lot of the new software capabilities that are coming out, AI, right? So if you think about where we're unlocking this massive value, there's domain depth across all of these businesses. And very uniquely, are Cognite demos over there if you haven't seen it come to me after.
Where we're putting that domain depth directly into our control systems directly into our automation, whether it be building process facility, it doesn't matter. And so the impact we're able to have on our customers' operations, depending on the industry, it's a wide range, but we're often talking tens of millions of dollars of immediate incremental difference for some of our automation solutions that are augmented by this domain depth.
And again, because of that position, a lot of these new compute capabilities are really augmenting our capability. And actually allowing us to get into markets in a way that no one else can. And so it's kind of interesting in the cycle of disruption. And I knew this coming into Honeywell, but it's been pretty incredible to see it play out over the last 11 months. It's driving a lot of value direct to our customers, which is where we're focused.
Okay. Maybe we'll squeeze in two quick ones. We go with Nicole and then end with Kap.
Maybe Nicole DeBlase from Deutsche Bank. Maybe just following on from Jeff's question. You shared that within process automation and technology, the connected systems percentage is kind of around 14%. I think ARR was similar, 13%, 14%. That struck me as a little bit low versus what the potential could be. So could you talk about that opportunity?
And then same segment. Second question is just how often do you guys work together today when it comes to cross-selling with your customer base? And how often could you work together in the future?
I think I speak to Ken more than anybody in my family. My wife is probably watching in life it's constant. It is absolutely constant. And I think Ken can talk a little bit more about how quickly we've been driving these solutions across the business.
Yes, absolutely. I mean I think the nice thing here is, as Jim came on, we were really developing out this kind of joint offering, and it came right at the right time where we were getting the pull on the connected capabilities we were pulled in almost immediately with key customers, many times will travel to the customers together. At times that we'll kind of divide and conquer with the customers as we can kind of show both sides of that. So I do think from a customer point of view and a customer space, it's a single offering.
Now the backbone behind that are very different between the two businesses. And that's why both of us are up here. It's a little bit different how you develop molecules and process technologies versus how you develop the new automation systems. But I think we have the best of both worlds as we bring that together.
And then on that fair to say that mean the time spent together, the pipeline, but the real benefit is still on the come because you guys are working really well together right now, but the benefit is...
It is. And that really gets into the second -- or the first part of the question, which was you're right. That's really low. I mean we connected our 1,000th plant. I think it was on December 17. We're now at 1,075, as you saw. We're connecting plants almost every day. We're just starting to see that ARR ramp up. Customers are now starting to see that benefit.
This has very much changed. A couple of years ago, many customers didn't recognize what that was or what the value really was. They're starting to now. And I do believe this will be exponential.
As more and more customers start to see it, we're also playing into a couple of really important kind of macro trends across the industry. One is labor shortage. Many of our customers just don't have the experience control room operators to continue to run. And they're losing some of their engineering expertise and talent to retirement. We're coming in and helping augment that existing workforce with these capabilities.
So you're dead on. It's going to be a lot of opportunity in the future coming off of that low base, and we're going to be able to solve it together.
Okay. Great. Maybe we'll end with Andy Kaplowitz of Citi.
Got it. So Pete, you talked about 500 basis points of margin improvement in 3 years. As you know, that's not a lot of time. So do you need some of these bigger initiatives to kick in NPI sort of accelerating or focus on high-growth markets? Or can you just get it from operating leverage. So is it back-end loaded or not?
And then maybe just quickly for Billal, you talked about the high-growth regions, 25% of the business. It feels like you kind of talk about it like it's the 20 teens, but as you know, the world has changed a bit, right? So China may be not the growth driver than it was before, but it's doing well for you. So like -- have you shifted at all and what high-growth regions mean? Or is it still kind of the same?
Yes, I'll just start on the operating expansion. It's all within our control. And this is why I feel highly confident about it. I think we get there low single digits to almost no growth just on the self-help -- some of the self-help stuff and then growth will obviously supersize that or be a part of that or we would take some of that and reinvest it as we're growing, but we would -- I feel -- obviously, on the growth side, there's more that's out of your control. But I feel pretty in control on the margin expansion and feel like we could do that at low single-digit growth.
Yes. On the vision, the good news is with the new organization we have and regional focus, all of our regions are growing. China and Europe have long been slow. But for us, they're growing quite nicely. In fact, Europe is showing up in the mid-single digits, and we expect that to continue.
Your question about how things change I think the fact that we have capable teams empowered to make our own choices and the visions will help us to do that. If I take the example of our Middle East and Africa region. A couple of years ago, when we talked about growth in that vision, it was all about the investments happening in Asia. Well, last it was all about Saudi Arabia and more than Northwest Africa. Our teams anticipate the growth and they have the capability and the empowerment to go and make sure that they are the default when it happens. And we see that dynamism and how our team approaches it to across all of our regions and the customer centricity help them continue to deliver on that.
Excellent. Great. Let's leave it there. We take a quick 15-minute break. We'll get back here right about 3:35 to kick off with Suresh. Thanks.
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Please welcome Chief Technology Officer and President of Honeywell Connected Enterprise, Suresh Venkatarayalu.
Welcome back. And just to let you know, I've been with the company for 31 years. It's a great day and great beginning to rewrite the chapter of Honeywell along with Vimal and the leadership team. I really feel both excited and fortunate to really do so. I actually met many of you here back in CES and also in AHR along with Billal. So great to connect with some of you, and I would love to really spend more time this evening. Forge, why Forge matters. I'm sure the question you hear from Vimal, you hear from all the 4 segment CEOs. They talked a lot about Forge is enabling their services growth, software growth, how that's going to be the future and foundation for driving automation to autonomy.
For me, there are 3 or 4 things that really matters from a customer standpoint. #1, please imagine or reimagine the future buildings, plants, data centers, critical infrastructure are not going to be just connected. Maybe that's what all of us have done in the first 6, 7 years. It's going to be more intelligent, adaptive and increasingly autonomous. I think that's the future state our customers are going to demand in the name of outcomes that they demand. Second, if you really look at our history for a century, we have automated the physical world. And how did we do it? It's a combination of installed base asset with domain knowledge, and we brought Forge to really drive the outcome. Third, for me and for us, Forge is that intelligence layer. And it brings in this 2 interesting dynamic, which is deterministic model. I think many of you would actually really question what it is.
As a control system company for the last 140 years, the control system company have to have a control lot to deliver 99.9999 in person. That means those algorithms that model, a predictive input parameter from sensors and actuators has to deliver a predictable output all the time. Now with all of it, there are 4 things that we have done different that's very real in Forge. You see that frictionless connectivity. We saw our customer environments are fragmented. You actually walk into a customer site, data is fragmented, systems are fragmented. When you actually really see it, you would have seen an example. We connected our campus in India. When you walk into that building, you need to connect 14,000 assets, not easy. They are specialized protocols that requires certification. So when we sat on it 2 years ago, Vimal looked at it and said, how long does it take to connect any of those buildings, our industrial plant, we said close to 100, 150 days or 150 hours, sorry.
And it wasn't clicking because we were working with our system integrators and system integrators who lose interest and they don't have the technical skill. That's something that we really brought it down to less than a day. And not only that, in Billal's business, we have 14,000 system integrators. We have taken Forge Academy to train them, handholding them, supporting them across the region. That's clicking. Second, we use the word Ontology. It's not new for many of you. We hear it from all the software companies like Palantir and others. We thought -- we used -- how many times have we used the word domain knowledge. For us, it's codifying the domain knowledge that AI understands, and that's what we have been doing in the last year or so. Third, it's our control systems. It's built for the regulated and safety industry. We are proud about it. AI in itself needs a guardrail.
I think we speak a lot about the guardrail, which we believe that the control architecture and Experion, EBI, I think it's a control guardrail for us. The last one, I think with our cyber business, we believe that we will be the bridge between IT and OT world. I think 3 things that I would actually ask us to really remember, it's all about data. It's about domain knowledge, deterministic model together. I think it's going to be speed. I think we spoke a lot about the speed of innovation, and I'll give you a little bit more teaser about how we are retransforming our company. There's 2 chapters, Chapter 1, 2018 to 2024. We enabled the connectivity, brought the visibility, sold a lot of remote services to our customers. Customers believed in it. I think there are a lot of value additions that we brought in for them, for us, and I'll walk you through the evolution model. But there's one thing that it lacked.
I think if you look at the point #5, it lacked the contextual insights around our installed base because you're dealing with bits to Athens. That's the difference between the traditional AI to physical AI. And that's something that actually said, you could do more because that's where you can deliver outcome. And that's an area that we spent a lot of time. So that led into 2025 last year, we said physical AI was real to an extent. I'm sure if you've all been in CES last year, Jensen set the tone on physical AI as a new reality. It's going to be a near term. And we actually said we need to take the lead right there. And then in the last year or so, as you really look at it, it's not -- meaning I'll be happy to really walk you through a little later. It's not just on the compute box. We absolutely believe that it has a category to bring in a compute with controls and an ability to contextualize using ontology, it's the new beginning.
That's how we are actually starting to tease you with an opportunity to show how we drive autonomy in a building environment or a plant environment. So what have we done in terms of -- from 2025? We said, Billal said it nicely. The amount of connections we have had in the last 12 months was much larger than what we have done in the first probably 5, 6 years. One of the reasons was frictionless connectivity. Second, once we connected right there, the next thing was how do we move up your value chain, not just selling services upgrade or a software upgrade, it's an outcome. So for us, it's a real pivot point where physical AI was a reality, and I'll talk to you a little bit more about partnership and we'll also give you a teaser on how we are trying to do this. Now with that, Forge business model is evolving, evolving all the time.
Now there are 4 ways to really see this evolution. Look at 2020 to 2024. I think we focused on connectivity selling digital services on top of our installed base. I think it's there in that $1 billion ARR that Vimal talked about. We have grown our services portfolio. We brought in other assets like Sparta and 3DM. So there is a high focus around connectivity upselling services. That was our focus from the first 4, 5 years. Look at from '25 onwards, which points out to what Billal said, we had more connections from sites, customers and assets. That's an acceleration, which we really brought in. Then from there, our focus was all about selling software as a Forge Performance Plus, customers were asking us to run their operations better. So asset performance management, predictive maintenance, carbon energy management, you have cyber. So a lot of software evolved. And the final category is an automation economy.
We believe that it's a closed-loop operation. Customers are expecting us to really deliver on certain outcomes. I think it's an interesting pivot, and I'm sure that you're starting to see some of the demonstration later this evening and something that we're going to show, it's the beginning for the new reality. And that new realization is going to be a tremendous opportunity growth for us moving forward. There are 2 or 3 case studies that I want to really talk about before we jump into automation economy. Take a digital services. We built this business along on the process automation, traditional services portfolio. As you look at it, we had probably a traditional reactive support model, which over a period in time, we were able to connect to our installed base. Look at it 660 sites, 350 customers, 130,000 assets. Now what does it do? One, direct visibility to our installed base. Two, we were able to really upsell some of the new product portfolio, Digital Prime, Assurance 360, but it also helped us to improve our cost to serve.
Now the business is growing in spite of some of the core erosion, they were able to keep up with it. For me, this is important because it gives you a hook back to your installed base to really upsell more software and then a future possibility what Ken and Jim talked about, a connected plant cannot happen without hooks back into your installed base. And this is a replicatable one for Billal's buildings portfolio and also for the Industrial Automation in terms of really selling, upselling services on top of your installed base. A second case study, which is organically built CLSS. Billal talked about it. I think you heard Pete referring that CLSS. This is a connected life safety services business on top of Fire. Fire was working with this system integrator portfolio, selling panels and selling services and they were selling outcomes, which is compliant, which is manual-driven compliance outcomes they were selling.
What we were able to do in the last 8, 9 years is $130 million software portfolio with $40 million ARR that is growing at a rapid pace, move from remote operation, compliance response, human-driven to a Digital alarm transmission, AI assist with integration with Rapid SOS, that business is transforming. We believe that this is replicatable for our gas detection business and utility business moving forward because you actually deal with a similar system integrator dimensions right there. Now for me, case study 3, which is the automation to autonomy is an interesting one. I think autonomy, we speak about it, and we spoke about it as an industry for the last 2 to 3 years. Two things, process automation that our customers are working with us. For them, it is clear. Can you eliminate the variability in operator handling of abnormal solutions?
I think you can actually read it. It's in the public domain. I think we have a demo coming up with -- in a Middle East customer with Borouge. They've been very happy partnering with us, taking experient cognition. That's an important use case. On the building side, it's 10% to 15% operational efficiency, meaning when you double-click it, it's energy performance, operational performance because of all the nuisance alarm coming from multiple systems on top of it, cyber, on top of it, comfort performance. There are 4 or 5 KPIs. But directionally, they will tell you that 10% to 15% improvement that you needed. Now Interestingly, though, right here, there are 2 stories before I jump in and give you what I'm about to show. 2025, CES, and some of you were there and I was there where NVIDIA launched what they call a DGX and AGX, which is a supercompute at a price point was available for every automotive player.
And then we talk with them and we said, if that is available for every single car, can we bring that category into every single building. It could be a commercial building or industrial plant because I was looking for a brain behind a building similar to a brain behind a car to drive autonomy and action. 6 to 7 months in a row, I think we really built that both the compute and the AI engine as a full prototype. I think around September, we showcased it to our Board with an initial idea of our forge cognition with some few use cases and whatnot. But this CES, within a 12-month period, we actually sat down with NVIDIA leadership team. Vimal was there, and we've been talking about a future prospect of building autonomy in action. I think Jensen's leadership team pushed us back to say, we should have a lighthouse customer. And then Vimal being Vimal, he said, yes, we need to have a lighthouse customer. Why can't you be the Lighthouse customer? And I was a CTO sitting there not really knowing what are we committing for. But here we are.
We were able to really take -- I think to give a credit back to the NVIDIA team, they took their one of the campus, Wag headquarters. You see the picture. They hand over back to us on February 6. I, along with Rahul Patel and Greg Turner, technology leaders pitched in the vision and what we could do. It was not on our installed base. But OnGuard was our installed base. We were able to get cognition up and running. What it does is 3 things. That box is powered by Blackwell architecture from NVIDIA. It has Omniverse to simulate the entire campus. You can emulate and simulate the building connected to their assets, and I'll show you that very quickly. Third, it has the whole NVIDIA model, Nemotron and Cosmos reasoning and Gemini model and is autonomously running. So let me take you live to our Voyager campus, give you a view on what it does.
So as you really see, as we get into the real aspect on zooming into the NVIDIA campus, Santa Clara, it's a 750,000 square feet area. And close to 1,000 assets, a combination of building management, BMS assets and then some of the security access control. What you see as a virtual reality is Omniverse powered up. You would be able to pick any of those assets to see their real-time performances. I just want you to know, for me, it's a ChatGPT moment for the industrial world as a technologist. And from there, you have an opportunity to have an interaction directly with the building. So you're asking the question, how much electricity have you consumed? This is Voyager headquarters data point. It also highlights 30% of their energy spend every single month was during the peak load that to in California. In fact, I presented back to their GRE head 2 weeks ago. He is seriously looking at should they have a battery energy storage to optimize the spend, how should we do it? As you look at it, one of the biggest pain points that they have is the nuisance alarm all over the place.
You have an opportunity to really interact with your building to say, how much is the nuisance alarm coming from a security system? As you look at it for a week, close to 5,000. Remember, they have to have human beings, more operators inside an SoC who are clearing up every single false alarms, which they call a nuisance alarm. So we actually built an agent for them, which is a semiautonomous agent, which technically goes back and then looks at it, BMS system today for the past 1 month had 85% nuisance alarm. And then it's not just at this level, the agent goes back and gives them all those alarms so that the operator in building operations can go back and look at what those alarms are, what the fact stays, what are the insights and then there is a point in time we should be able to train the system to provide more recommendation. But end of the day, it also gives an operator opportunity like you post your e-mail by saying, these are pretty much junk e-mails or spam e-mail. You have an opportunity.
So if the operator trains this model 3, 5, 10x, then there'll be a confidence to give the control back to autonomy. And if you really look at the next big thing, which is their biggest ask when we started was security system. You look at 98% false alarm. And I can just tell you, in one of the buildings that we are not touching right now, 250,000 alarms per quarter. And they need 14 to 15 people clearing up every shift. This actually gives -- this is an interesting one. You're dealing with security means your camera inputs have to be fed in and with facts that SOC should be able to clear up to say is it false or not. So as you're really looking at it, you're interacting with the building and then you are actually dealing with an algorithm and you're reinforcing the model, either you're reinforcing the model or reinforcing the process side altogether. So this is a great use case where I just wanted to really give you a first instance perspective on how we are approaching this autonomy.
We have done -- we have showcased to some of you how we did Bangalore campus. That's how we took this idea back to NVIDIA. The head on GRE initially was not very sure what we could do. But having done this, and I presented it last week, they've given us 6 more weeks where if they can actually really go back and look at all the KPIs, if it hits it well, I hope that we can actually go and deploy across their entire campus, and we may have a PR release. But I want to really get to a point on partnerships. These things are not possible. I think there's an NVIDIA partnership. You have seen me in Dell World Congress or Technologies World last month. But Google's partnership started 2 years ago. We brought in Gemini 1.5, 2.5. We've rewired a number of things. But what you're going to see in our cognition is GDC, which is Google distributed cloud compute, which is like a GCP. So Thomas and his leadership team has been working with us for the last 2 years, and then we have asked him for a short video about his partnership and how he sees he can contribute to a physical AI transformation.
Hello, everyone. I want to start by thanking Vimal and the entire Honeywell team for inviting me to join you today. When we announced our AI partnership with Honeywell in 2024, it was centered on a mutual vision to realize and accelerate the path to autonomy for the industrial sector by combining Google Cloud's leading AI capabilities with Honeywell's industrial expertise and installed base. This means bringing AI into the physical world in a way that can help buildings, plants, utilities and other industrial environments move from traditional automation and static data to self-managing agentic systems.
For example, Honeywell Forge provides the industrial software foundation and operational data from buildings, plants and utilities, while Google Cloud and Gemini help process that information, identify patterns and support better, faster decisions. This enables organizations to move beyond automation to autonomous systems that can sense, reason and react in real time. Our partnership is critical to shaping the future of physical AI and supporting the infrastructure that businesses, communities and economies rely on every single day. At Google Cloud, we're fully committed to our strategic partnership with Honeywell, and we look forward to shaping the future of physical AI together. Thank you once again, Vimal, and the entire Honeywell team.
Just to sum it up, I think the whole piece that I want to say is Forge is here to stay for driving the physical AI transformation. And with a partnership in place, for me, automation to autonomy for future has 3 fundamentals. Assets need to work harder, People to work smarter and Processes work more efficiently. Those fundamentals are important to enable the future buildings, plant and industrial operation that can see, think and learn and act and which is the fundamental for autonomy. And I'm really, really happy to really take this evolution forward, and we'll be happy to really share more later this evening and connect with all of you back. So with that, I'm going to be inviting Mike Stepniak for the next session.
Please welcome Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak.
Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you again for being here today and your support. I realize it's been a long session, so I promise I'll be quick. But I think I understand why they always put the finance guys last in those sessions. Vimal and the team took you through our strategy, and I think they gave you a really good overview of the business and how we think about the future. In the next 20 minutes, I'll give you a little bit more insight into our financial framework. But before I do that, I just wanted to have a quick moment of reflection because I think days like that require that. I've been with Honeywell now for about 6 years. I've been the CFO of Honeywell for about 16 months. And I can tell you, I have never seen a team that is more committed and excited to deliver on our commitments and on the mission.
Vimal talked about our VOE scores and our attrition. It goes beyond that. We have people that left us over the last 5 years, knocking back on our doors. Wanting to be part of the story. So it's extremely exciting. And look, I'm not a very outwardly excited person. I realize that, especially if you put me in the room with Mark Macaluso. But I am extremely excited about our financial framework and about our strategy and what we are going to deliver for our shareholders and our customers over the next 3 years. So with that, let's just recap the day really quick. Vimal talked about our transform and simplified portfolio. This is going to deliver higher, more profitable growth. Our legal team, our business development team spent the last 18 months deleveraging our balance sheet, which is unlocking our cash flow and helping our G&A costs. We are rapidly eliminating stranded costs and going beyond that, and I'll talk about it, it's a significant driver of margin expansion for us over the next 3 years.
And all the presidents talked to you about refresh NPI, about better offering, being closer to the customers. Everything that we have done over the last 24 months makes me more than comfortable committing to delivering 10% plus EPS growth through 2029. Honeywell prides itself on execution. And before we talk about the financials, we just have to acknowledge and talk about how much the team has executed because I think that's been largely unnoticed, but a significant impact on our financials in a very good way going forward. So let's start with Industrial Automation. Industrial Automation, like Pete said, now it's pure sensing and measurement business. This business alone is going to deliver 100 bps of margin expansion for Honeywell over the next 12 months. More importantly, Pete can now keep the team focused and deliver not only the margin expansion, but deliver growth and think about expanding -- growing the business inorganically.
Solstice spin-off made us less CapEx intensive and less cyclical. By the way, Solstice is up 60% since the launch in October. What a great story for the team and the shareholders. Like I said, we divested over $2 billion of legacy liabilities over the last 18 months. It's a significant tailwind for our cash flow and our G&A. And the automation segment, there is a reason why Ken and Jim talked to you together today. Their teams this year alone will deliver over $100 million of commercial synergies just between these 2 businesses. And this is -- we're really just in early innings of the journey. And finally, Quantinuum is making just excellent commercial progress, and you'll hear about it in the second half and delivering on their strategy. And once again, I'd like to congratulate Raj, Nitesh and their teams on a very successful IPO last week.
By the way, that business, you'll see it in our second quarter financials, is going to sit on our books at $7 billion. So if you think about the optionality as far as cash flow and capital allocation, it's a big help for us going forward. So here we are. We are a pure-play automation company delivering mission-critical solutions in building automation, industrial and process automation industries. And the keyword here is mission-critical. The nature of our products and solutions allows us to have life cycle relationships with our customers. Most of our products, once again, have to be certified and have to be specified. More importantly, these products allow us greater pricing, more predictable revenue streams and getting closer to our customers. But this is just the beginning. So let's talk about where we go from here.
Our value creation engine has 3 pillars. And I realize this is kind of on par with the -- this is on par with our peers as far as the growth, top line growth, margin expansion. What's exciting to me and what's compelling that this growth is going to come early. And there is a very good chance for us to overdrive this framework. And I'll talk about each of the pillars in a minute. Both top line and margin expansion will be underpinned by a more meaningful shift towards services and software annual revenue, recurring revenue. More importantly, margin expansion, the 60 bps of annual margin expansion, that's just operational expansion. We have over 200 bps of margin expansion coming structurally from us removing stranded costs and driving the portfolio actions that we talked about in IS. So let's talk to each of the pillars. And I think this is the most consequential page of today's presentation. And I'm really excited about the growth framework because as Honeywell, we know we undergrew last few years, but that's changing significantly.
And let me just go through each of the pieces here. On volume, volume, we should grow 4% a year. And we talk about NPI, we talked about higher growth verticals. I'll talk a little bit about software annual recurring revenue. But I'm a data person to just give you some data points that I'm seeing. Billal is very humble human being. His business now delivered high single-digit growth 7 quarters in a row. His fire business last year launched over 30 NPIs. His orders quarter-to-date are high double digits. This business has momentum, not only in data centers, it has momentum in every vertical and every region that his business operating with. Pete has turned the corner on the business. It's really a story of self-help. The business is delivering better for the customers, starting to introduce NPI, team has focused and have mission.
And finally, Process Automation Technologies. We talked about it now for 3 or 4 quarters. This business has been building the backlog, projects backlog. This backlog is converting. We are mobilizing our teams and starting to deliver these projects. And this is a multiyear cycle. Majority of our projects take 3 years to deliver. Our LNG business is sold out for the next 3 years. And by the way, catalyst volumes coming back. Second half over first half, catalyst short-term demand is going to be up more than 20%. So I'm really excited about this setup because all of our businesses have momentum and it's a strong momentum. Price. Look, we learned a lot about the art and science of pricing over the last 3 years. And just like Ken said, our models are better. They're much more dynamic. We're closer to our customers where we can understand how to price.
And for better or worse, pricing now reports to me for the last 9 months. So I can give it the right level of visibility and drive the say do when needed. But I'm confident we'll deliver 3% plus pricing over the next few years.
And then M&A, I'll have a slide later on to talk about M&A. M&A will drive 1% incremental growth for our company. All of our M&A is accretive to our growth. So why are we not growing 6% to 8%? Well, it seems these days, we have a 100-year flood about every 6 months. So I am assuming a very healthy level of contingency to make sure we can withstand all the geopolitical uncertainty and issues that we face every year.
I have 2 more slides on top line growth that I want to touch on. One is on ARR and one is on M&A before we move to margin expansion. So let me start with services and software. Our services and software business is today about $7 billion or 40% of our business. Recurring revenue is about $2.3 billion, and software ARR is about $900 million. That's as of 2025. As the team said earlier today, we'll grow service and software from about 40% to 45% of overall revenue mix over the next 3 years. And software is going to grow at about 3x the rest of the business. We like this revenue model a lot. As we are maturing Forge and looking at connected and starting to analyze our installed base, we realize we have a massive opportunity here to lean in and drive incremental growth. This growth is also accretive to us and gives us a lot of leverage. Our incremental cost to scale this business is actually minimal. We're studied -- we're looking at our compute costs and for software. And on 15% revenue growth, our compute cost grows about 2%. So we're getting really good leverage on this growth.
So let's talk about M&A. Look, our M&A strategy, bolt-on M&A strategy is doing extremely well. And that's something that I think is core to our -- it's a core strength for us. And team has been doing an excellent job, one, identifying M&A targets, vetting them and then bringing them on board at the right multiples. And the teams in the businesses have been doing really good job integrating these businesses. All of our M&A that we've done since 2023 is accretive to our growth, is beating revenue synergies and delivering on return on invested capital. If you take just Air Products LNG as an example, this business next year is going to be $0.5 billion business and it's sold out for the next 3.5 years. We'll continue to do M&A in the future, but we'll be very selective and continue to strategically supplement our businesses where we think there is a close adjacency or a strong fit.
So let's move to margin expansion. I can guarantee you, Honeywell has not forgotten how to expand margins. We talked about this earlier this week, we'll deliver about 20% segment margin this year. We have a very clear path to expand about 200 bps over the next 12 months through structural actions. On top of that, organically, we'll expand another 60 bps a year. And that 60 bps a year has a ton of contingency and optionality in it. So if you start calculating this data, I think it becomes very clear that 24% is not only achievable, it's actually beatable and gives us a lot of optionality for M&A investments and obviously, contingencies. How we think about the 60 bps? Look, we have, I would say, plenty of optionality as far as how we expand the margins depending on the market. Like I said, price should be 3% to 4%. We're improving mix. We're doing more NPI. We're doing cross-sell. That's giving us a better leverage on our growth and expanding margins. But to me, the biggest opportunity is still in cost productivity. It's not only stranded costs. We're going much further beyond that.
I'll just give you an example of what we're doing. Today, Honeywell has still about 700 legal entities. We can operate at 300. Over the next 2 years, we'll eliminate 400 legal entities as a significant source of productivity for us and margin expansion. Today, we still have about 10 ERPs. Over the next 2 years, we're migrating to 2 and now a significant source of simplification and productivity. And finally, if you think -- start thinking about artificial intelligence productivity tools and how you're going to deploy them, you need to deploy them at scale.
So we are leveraging our shared services. Today, our shared services penetration is about 40%. Over the next 2 years, it will be over 70%. And that's where you get really payback on productivity on your AI investment. So we feel really good about this margin expansion. While we're also taking out stranded costs, and we get a lot of question on stranded costs. What is it? How much is it? When are you going to take it out, et cetera. So I'm pleased to say that today, our stranded cost is only $290 million. Just think about it, it's $290 million on over $20 billion of revenue.
More importantly, we'll be taking this cost out -- remaining cost out in the next 12 months. We already actioned about $200 million of that through repositioning and other actions. It just needs to show up in our run rate. And then we have about $85 million of cost left that we'll take out next year by simplifying our structure and taking out -- sorry, and getting better penetration in shared services. So our fixed cost is going down by about 500 to 600 bps from '25 to '27 while we reinvested and stepped up our investment in R&D. So I think a really good story on cost. So with that, let's talk about EPS. And look, to me, the $6 EPS in 2029 of 10% drop, this is table stakes. I really have -- I'm asking 2 questions to myself.
It's not whether we can hit it, but by how much can we beat it. And this EPS growth is coming in early years, meaning it's front loaded. So I'll be super disappointed in next year if we don't grow EPS by 12% plus. And to that point, the $4.05 for this year, there's still a lot of opportunity to beat that as well. So the teams are working really hard to deliver that. And I could assure you that, that growth is coming sooner versus later. You don't have to wait 3 years to see it, and it's operational. It's all through above-the-line items, volume, price, mix, productivity, everything we talked about today. So with that, let's maybe talk about -- a few minutes about cash and capital allocation because, obviously, those are extremely important to our future.
So on cash, we will be 80% 'free cash flow-converted this year. We will be 95-plus percent converter in the second half of the year. There's just a lot of things went on in the first half of the year that we had to manage. If you think about it, we're raising $16 billion of debt. We're in the process of retiring $21 billion of debt. We're separating 140-year-old company and creating hopefully 2 companies over $100 billion market cap over the next few years. Just a lot of complexity that we had to deal that manage through transitory interest costs, taxes and also the conflict in Middle East, we had some [ possibilities ] in the first quarter.
Now I am convinced we are 95% free cash flow converter going forward based on all the structural things we've done. We're paying out our debt, focusing on -- that's going to help our cash interest. Our tax rate going forward is about 19%. It used to be -- our ETR used to be 22%. That's a significant source of cash as well. And we have higher quality portfolio that is going to deliver better cash flow. And finally, look, as people -- our folks are coming off the separation work, including myself, we're getting more focused on cash. So I'll be focusing a lot on cash over the next 18 months. I can promise you that.
So what are we going to do with all this cash? So first, we're going to pay down debt. We're managing our debt and that leverage ratio to below 3, hopefully by year-end. In the midterm, we'll continue to invest in CapEx. Our CapEx should be about 3% of sales. It's lighter than it used to be. It used to be more like 4% -- 3.5% to 4%. And then medium term, we also -- obviously will focus on returning excess capital to shareholders. Our dividend payout ratio should be about 35%, which is on par with our peer set, and we'll focus on about 1% share count reduction. And then we'll continue to do bolt-on M&A. Ticket size will be for us, bolt-on is about $2 billion to $4 billion of the purchase price. But we'll be thoughtful and we'll be patient. There is no urgency, but we'll continue to add assets strategically, just like we did with Access Solutions, just like we did with LNG and Sundyne.
So with that, in closing, I just want to say we have created a very unique pure-play automation company. And from my vantage point, this company has a very, very good financial profile and financial framework for the next 3 years. And I'm confident that with the team you saw today, we're not only going to deliver this financial framework, we will beat that.
So with that, I would like to invite Vimal, Suresh and Mark back on the stage for the final Q&A. Thank you.
Let's start right in the middle, Mr. Sprague.
Somebody said white space earlier. I think it was Julian. But Vimal, you really started off very early with our interest with the comment on discrete. And then also in the process pitch, we didn't really hear a lot about M&A, but you got sort of big white space maybe in field instruments and some other places. So maybe just spend a little bit of time on like what your strategic priorities are now as you try to take the company up to the next level.
I mean I would say the 2 biggest priority. One is we need to strengthen our IA portfolio goes without saying, but it has to be done thoughtfully. We have built this portfolio with a lot of effort, sensing and measurement. So we're not going to excursions here and there and just again create unrelated portfolio, but we'll absolutely pay more attention to that. But if I move beyond it, because that's must do, the two things I focus on, one is a vertical-based offering M&A.
What we have learned hardware, it just takes 1 or 2 offerings just to give you a tremendous opportunity in a vertical. Look at LNG business. It was an Air Products business acquisition, which changed the whole profile of our business. And of course, we added on Sundyne subsequent to that. If you look at our hospitality segment, we have a big play in hotels. We always did the thermostat in the hotel INNCOM business we have for 10 or 15 years.
But when we acquired Access Solutions business, we got electronic locks, which have digital identity of all of us linked to those locks. So all of a sudden, we became so critical for the hotels. So the point being one acquisition can change your whole profile. And those 8 verticals we have identified, which I talked about, the semiconductor and data center and LNG, hospitality and so on, that's where I want to focus on how we bring more strength so that our story is going hand in hand.
We want to grow in those verticals. Can we find more space to inorganically to grow in that? And the last but not the least, I'm a big believer of frontier technology. Frontier technologies have an important role to play in our businesses. So think about we have made 2 acquisitions in cybersecurity in a very thoughtful manner. It's a frontier technology in our world. OT cybersecurity is still a nascent business. But if we continue to invest in frontier technology, we will be the leader in that space. We made 2 acquisitions in that. We made an acquisition in fire detection. We were the first company in 2017 to made a fire detection for data centers, a fact, which is not well known under Anne's leadership.
Now of course, it's benefiting us from today because nobody would have put a bet on early detection of fire in data center in 2017, but we did. And we made a detection of the lithium-ion battery, the off-gases 3 years back. That's frontier technology. We need to know about it because they are disruptive. You need to be staying ahead of the game, which means we need a deeper understanding of our segment. So I think that's fundamentally our playbook here. Strengthen our IA business, continue to have our vertical story building together and keep an eye on frontier technology. And as we generate more cash, we'll responsibly spend it and do it in a thoughtful manner.
We'll go to Nigel Coe of Wolfe Research.
You sound very confident on overdriving the plan. So I'd be curious if you maybe just like emphasize where you think the best opportunities are driving, I'm guessing is the margin expansion. And on the margin question, can you just talk about the drop-through and the incremental margins on the ARR and recurring services because I'm guessing that's going to be higher margin. And then on the process side, you only pointed to 25% margins by 2029 versus 24% in 2024 -- 2025, I should say. Why is there limited opportunity there?
So a lot of questions. Four questions. So I would say, I think the reason I feel so comfortable about the margin expansion is in -- in many ways, our margin expansion is not dependent on the strong top line growth. So with whatever we're guiding at 4% top line growth, we still can get majority of this margin expansion. And this is because of us taking out the stranded costs, but also, like I said, going beyond that. It's really, I would say, about our structural simplification across the company. And I think with now having a cleaner portfolio and more focused portfolio, we can drive a lot of that.
Second, pricing. Pricing discipline in Honeywell got much better over the last two years. Like I said, we learned a lot about pricing as far as how to be more into the markets. how to price regionally versus globally in one cookie approach. We're closer to our customers. Our offering is better, which allows us more pricing. So that's all helping us. So I think the margin expansion is largely derisked. It's really about can we get -- how far beyond 24% we can get there. As far as the incrementals on software are going to be really high. We invested $1 billion in Forge. We're not investing as much anymore. And that's why those incrementals that you're going to start seeing on the software revenue are higher than our product incrementals.
So with all that, we see a lot of opportunity there. And then in terms of the growth, like I said, we -- all 3 businesses have momentum, and it's really strong momentum. IA is different because it's all about self-help -- so Pete is going to grow for a while at this mid-single-digit rate without even having considering too much of the market itself. And process automation technology, if you follow this industry, the cycles are multiyear cycles, and they're on the cusp of it. And Billal just -- he's taking share across the world, and he regionalized the first in the -- in Honeywell, and he's been on this journey now for 3 years. So -- and it's really -- his growth is driven by offering.
The P&T segment, we have assumed the Johnson Matthey acquisition. It pulls our margins down. But the rate of change opportunity it provides is very large. So it's like a little bit of short term, the math works against us, but then the rate of change opportunity, that's why we acquired it. So that's why kind of '25 is a little bit -- if we take it out, the numbers look different. So that's more of a math.
Okay. Let's go to Andrew Obin, Bank of America.
Just a question on your installed base and getting better attachment rate. So who does the service and specifically building automation and industrial automation. So what kind of people perform the services right now? And what's the strategy for increasing your share of the wallet with your customers?
Yes. So Andrew, if you look at it, if I look -- let me start with building automation, then I'll go to industrial automation. Building automation, as Billal shared, 60% of our revenue comes through channels. And two years back, we said we have no entitlement for any service there. We ship the product and they should serve it. I mean that sounds like a logical answer. And then 40% installed base, we own because we sell projects, and that's -- we have a large service business on that.
So our first inning of Forge was to connect our installed base and make our service contact more digitized and Suresh talks about it. And then we said, who stopped us to ask service business from our channel partner? Whose thesis was that? It turns out nobody's thesis. It was self-imposed kind of a ban. Now our Forge is open to our channel partners. They can sell connected building to their installed base. When they sell it, they have to pay me a license fee. We have opened them an academy to train our channel partners on how to sell Forge. It's a big transformation for them.
Our classical system integrator grown up to sell fire system, security system, and HVAC system. We are selling go and sell this IoT platform, and they obviously said, that's hard. We will train you for that. But every time you sell it, you have to pay me a license fee. So a great example is we talked about Connected Life Safety Solutions business in Fire launched in 2019, more than $100 million revenue from the recurring revenue it generates, but that's the engine which grows the product business because our channel partners are so dependent on our software to configure their product, it's unlikely they can move to anybody else.
So I think how you -- the compounding effect of that is very high. Same is going to be now moving towards industrial automation. When we look at our installed base of gas detection, which is very similar to fire detection, the hazard to human. We are replicating the same model, building the tools by which our customers can remotely inspect these gas detectors, they can configure them, but it's in early innings, and we will repeat the same process. So it's a learning from one and transferring to other. And my confidence is that the ARR growth of 15% from a base of about $1 billion will require us to constantly innovate and generate that extra revenue.
And just a follow-up question. It sounds like pricing embedded in your medium-term forecast is 3 percentage points. Which sort of implies midpoint of volume growth is 2%. Am I correct? And it seems not much macro acceleration is embedded in that.
That's right. That is correct. And I think that's really where the opportunity is for us to overdrive.
I mean that's why we show the hedge of 2%, right? I mean, look, the inflation wants to just want to go up. The thing we can't do is we don't want to forecast next 4 year of price to say our prices will stay 3.5%, 3% to 4% range. But I and Mike know it is in that range for '26 and '27. It's in front of us. Can I say that Tony? I don't know. Maybe the inflation cools down and maybe it wants to become 2% or 1%, but we are then ready with higher NPI efficiency to still grow our revenue 4% to 6%.
So I think it's a one variable we control in our growth, which is new products. one variable in our top line growth we don't control, which is inflation, which drives our pricing. So we'll manage the 2% and deliver the 4% to 6%. Do we have a hedge in it? Yes, we do. But if we plan a strategy in which we don't plan any hedge, I think we are not being responsible to making our commitments.
Let's go to Jairam Nathan from Daiwa.
Thanks, Mark. So I had a question for Suresh and kind of in terms of Forge, what's the go-to-market strategy here? Do you have a separate sales force? Or is it connected with the different segments? And I would think that the skill set for a sales team would be different for selling Forge compared to the...
The last two years, we took a go-to-market sales offering management. It's under Billal, it's under Jim Masso and Ken. We believe that, that is a very important pivot as part of our connected enterprise redesign that we have gone through because central team will own the whole platform operation, innovation partnership. I think -- and to that point, Billal and Jim and others are completely rewiring the skill set that's required to sell software, new business model, and there's a mix that is happening on an ongoing basis. And I think I completely agree that's a new muscle that we are building.
That's a journey we have gone through. So your question is absolutely right. when we started Honeywell Connected Enterprise in first phase, we said we need a separate -- we need very smart people who can sell software. It turns out that thesis was wrong because it creates an internal conflict in one organization. So we made a decision in early '25, late '24, operational '25. All those salespeople have been moved to all 4 segment leaders. They are very smart people. They know how to sell. They need offering, which this guy makes. Do we need to upgrade our sales force? Absolutely. That's our future. We want to sell services and software. So let's solve the real problem to upgrade our sales force progressively versus putting a band-aid to say, I think you are not so smart. I'm going to hire some extra people. I don't think that really works.
We acknowledge our -- we created detour here and come to this core. And this is really working for us. Our confidence factor is high. The limiting factor for growth of ARR is innovation. Salespeople are smart. They'll always sell what sells in the market. if the offering is creating value for our customer, they want to sell it. So if we are innovating, if we have the right set of proposition and have a high confidence in Suresh's ability to think through innovation engine, and we are on the right trajectory there. It's hard, but we will do that.
And just as a quick follow-up. So to the earlier question, so would it be possible to kind of be a little more in the future, be more selective on the project side, given that it's slightly margin dilutive overall, if the channel partners' effort kind of succeeds?
I mean, look at our current mix of question, if I understood right, today mix of project business is 20%. It's very concentrated in process segment. You bring installed base through selling projects. That's how the market buys. So I don't think we want to walk back from that. We are not moving our process business to channel. There's no such strategy. Our channel business are industrial and buildings.
There again, we don't have any plans to go direct. So we're very clear on our business model. Two channel businesses, direct business. And as we sell more software and services, between product and solution, what will reduce? I mean, I'm not going to forecast a guess here. 60% is going to become 55%, there'll be probably some adjustment. But net-net, we are more focused to kind of maintain our overall mix to 55%-45% range.
And I would just add to it, in our process business, and that's where we're really owning the life cycle, product life cycle relationship with the customer. We, a lot of times design the chemical process and own the IP on it for our customers. So before we even build anything, the customers will come to us and ask us to essentially engineer the outcomes for them, chemical outcomes as far as their feed, et cetera. So it's really the channel model there wouldn't work.
Let's go to Scott Davis from Melius.
Mike, how do you cut 400 legal entities without having your tax rate go up?
Yes. So look, I mean, we obviously -- we're working through it. It's really -- we're changing and thinking through how we're going to operate in countries. We operate materially in about 70 countries. We have countries where we have 30 legal entities. So we just have massive proliferation of legal entities. Like Germany, we have 30 legal entities in Germany. I guarantee we don't need 30 entities in Germany. So we have some of the frictional tax coming our way as far as trying to simplify it, but that's already, I would say, calculated in the context of what we're trying to do and as far as our simplification.
The low-hanging fruit, Scott, is pretty large. I mean if you look at it, one thing we did not pay attention to is we made -- Honeywell has made a lot of acquisition over the last 15, 20 years period. We did not pay an attention to eliminating the legal entities. And what we are realizing is that you don't need those legal entities just for the basic transactions, and that number is large.
So low-hanging fruit out of the $400 million reduction is significant. And then comes a difficult portion of the tail where the fractional tax will come in and the team has to be thoughtful at how do we do that work here. The motivating factor for us is very clear. The motivating factor was we created Solstice and Aerospace from scratch. Aerospace has got 100 legal entities, and I can't stomach it. We need 300. There's no reason when we create a new entity, they have such a pristine business and then the RemainCo tends to carry the burden of the history. I think we can do it. It's just going to be a lot of effort, but I think structurally, we know how to execute that.
And a lot of this is also -- it's really simplification, not necessarily externally, but internally within Honeywell, we have a lot of intercompany transactions, et cetera. That's really eliminating this noise. That's where the leverage comes in, if you will, or the productivity.
That's helpful. And I just wanted to clarify, will there be some fine-tuning and tweaking to the incentive compensation program?
The compensation of the people?
Executive compensation.
We're working with our Board here. That's going to be one of our key topics coming right off as we become. The answer is absolutely yes. I think we need to make our compensation aligned to the strategy, which we are presenting to you. I haven't discussed with our Board of Directors. It's too premature for me what it will look like. But directionally, it will look like the things we talked about, our compensation should link to what we committed to you, should be directly proportional to that. So there's an opportunity here, and we're going to work with all our directors to make it happen.
Great. Okay. Let's go to Brett Linzey from Mizuho.
Just want to follow up on the 200,000 AI deployments. And specifically, what are the highest ROI opportunities at the segment level for the customers? And then as you guys look more inward and you gave a lot of customer examples, but more inward, is there more opportunity with physical AI in your own plants and footprint?
Let's take the inward example of AI. I think Mike talked about it. We as a company has been a productivity engine because we had an operating system for many years. So driving productivity 15, 20 years back was using Six Sigma and Kaizen and then you move forward, it became robotic process automation and so on. What we have realized is that for us to create opportunity of productivity at scale required us to build a centralized services model. And that realization came, we have centralized execution of R&D under Suresh's leadership, a common R&D team of almost 7,000 people.
They were the first one to use AI at scale to do software testing and gave us substantial productivity. That gave us a ring bell to say, if you want to use AI, you have to centralize your function. It's as simple as that. There's no way you can have a disparate function like in case of Mike, he has finance team in the center. He has an FP&A, then he has people in the businesses. There's no way you don't have any scale to do AI to make a meaningful P&L impact. which made us now to pivot towards a shared services model to say corporate will be light. We are a public company. Of course, we need a corporate function to behave like a public company. But everything else we do should be a shared service so that we can reimagine that service using AI.
So there should be Agentic versions in that when we do procurement, when we do finance, when we do other functions, customer service, that's our journey. So I would say that how much that number should be, it probably is going to be greater than what we all expect. But it's hard for us to put a number on the table to say it's going to be 30 basis points or 10% or nothing. But it absolutely is greater than 0%, and we are very bullish about that.
On the external customer side, I think the -- our innovation adoption has to match with the customer's ability to do change management. Because these offering we are launching of Agentic system, building an Agentic system for buildings, building an Agentic system for process industry or plants. When a customer adopts it, they have to make an organization structural change. They have to hire different type of people. So can they do it in two months? Unlikely. Can they do that in two years? Probably. So we are shifting our discussion not only limited to Agentic system.
When I talk to my peer group, they talk about it, how are you dealing with it? Are you making org changes? And they are really dealing with that issue because Agentic system means the skills are getting automated at the bottom of the pyramid. And the skills are moving in the middle of the pyramid. Suresh showed to you, he's going to eliminate all the nuisance alarms, okay? So there are a lot of people who are doing this punching the key to deal with nuisance alarm in different kind of system. But given they're eliminated, somebody needs to do something about it. Those people are different.
So who's going to make the org change to say, all these people are left and we need something in the middle. So our scaling is more dependent upon customer adoption of their own org change. And more quickly they do it, I think the rate of change here could be quite different in any new technology, and we're absolutely working with our customers on that.
Okay. Let's go back to Andy Kaplowitz in the center.
Vimal, like I think you've run all the businesses in the past. So I'm just curious, like what do you think the biggest unlock is? Because you talked in the beginning of the conversation about getting the other segments to look like BA. So what do you think the biggest unlock is? And if you think about something like process, for instance, it is bigger customers, it's different markets. So how do you sort of deal with the different businesses to get them to look like BA?
I think the biggest unlock is for us, the next innings for Honeywell Technologies is going to be building a vertical-oriented offerings. What industrial companies do well is to build businesses by product line, process automation, life safety, gas detection. But the people are trained to sell their product to a customer. But if you pivot the problem by end market to say we are serving life sciences, we are serving semiconductor, we are serving grid infrastructure. Those are -- you have not solved a problem, which will need to sell products from multiple businesses, that to me is the biggest unlock.
In today's revenue stream and all the numbers we presented to you, we don't have any meaningful number of cross-sell built in because we haven't proven anything. But if you ask me and all my SPG colleagues and Mike, that's what we are most excited about because this is a real scenario. And as we execute that, that to me is the biggest unlock because within the segments, I think each business leader is very capable to grow the strategy which we really presented. My job and Mike's job is really to imagine now how do we solve this vertical orientation because that's a relatively unique concept to build cross-sell of by each end market. In process, it's easy because both Jim and Ken, they sell to the same customer.
There's a high amount of interrelation. Now I do it beyond, it just makes it harder, and that to me is the biggest unlock we have to solve it. 200 basis point of growth in there is possible? Absolutely. That's my incoming thesis. Have we delivered on that? Answer is no, but that's an upside, which is not in our numbers right now.
And then you probably deserve a little vacation after June 29, and you've been pretty busy. But assuming you don't take one, like where do you reprioritize your time? Because you will have a little more time, right? So where are you going to focus?
I mean, if you -- it looks -- how we executed the separation, it's a bit interesting to spend a minute on that. I think the separation team was done as a separate team under Anne's leadership. And we separated -- created a separate separation management office to really drive execution of Solstice and Aero separation. My time actually spent was not as significant as it appears from outside. I had to make a few difficult decisions, how to hire leadership team for Solstice and for Aerospace and create Board of Directors, of course. But time required is less, implication of decision is very big. So I did not really went away from the core of spending about 1/3 of my time externally. That has been my principle.
It means be it with your salespeople and be it with your customer because that really gives you the insight on the businesses they are moving in. And -- but to your question, it's going to be a vertical thinking. The segments where we have a lesser penetration, I'm spending more time with life sciences customer. I'm spending more time with semiconductor customer, getting to know them, what are their pain points and what offerings we can make. It's interesting that I met with one of the large life sciences customer earlier this year or the largest company. And his comment was, I'm surprised I'm meeting a Honeywell CEO for the first time. But you're the biggest automation company, and I don't know why we don't have a relationship with you.
My takeaway was our brand value is so high in his mind, and we've not done a good job to create value for them. And then we talk about our cross-sell solution, they really get excited about it because they said, this is new. We haven't heard this before. So that's where the time will get spent more in terms of organic growth, creating more opportunities and of course, building pipeline for M&A. I see my job continues to be more growth coming from organic and inorganic actions, and that's where I should spend more -- a lot of my time.
But just to the point of how focused we are, tomorrow morning, we'll have all day of business review.
Business review.
To focus on the second quarter.
For quarter 2.
We're serious.
We need to deliver.
Okay. Let's go to Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
Just on the topic of M&A, does the $2 billion to $4 billion bolt-on range mean that large deals are completely off the table? And then a follow-up to Mike, you talked about the legal entities. You talked about the ERPs and you talked about shared services, but you didn't talk about facilities. Is that an opportunity? Or do you think that the size or the number of facilities that you have is right?
Do you want to answer M&A? I can talk about the facilities.
Yes. I mean -- look, our strategy is -- we have worked really well for us as a bolt-on acquisition. So what works well don't mess around with that. So I think fundamentally, we want to stay focused on that enterprise. And you never say no to everything. There's never say we won't do this and we won't do that. Things change. But principally speaking, we don't see any necessity to go away from our fundamental strategy of grow your installed base, mine your installed base, this strategy will work for us and do some meaningful addition in M&A where necessary, specifically to on what I mentioned, verticals and frontier technologies.
On your question on facilities, we are already 85% local for local, if you will, on region for region. We're optimizing things. Especially in IA. So you'll see more consolidation, but this is more just really to drive scale in our facilities. And that won't require any, I would say, incremental repositioning funds. I'm assuming about $70 million to $80 million of repositioning for Honeywell on a go-forward basis. But largely, we have a footprint that we want and we can grow on it.
Actually, Scott is here is our VP for ISC built a very clean strategy. We have about 80 factories, 80 facilities manufacturing as in Honeywell Technologies. He wants to build 25 facilities will produce 80% of our revenue, 80-20. We still need 80% because there are some nuances of localization, some of unique product line.
But if we turn our focus to 25, that's where you invest capital, that's where you build scale, that's build your Honeywell operating system. And I think really his strategy is really smart to execute it that way. And that's going to give us leverage like Billal talked about it. We don't think Honeywell needs any new factory with one exception, LNG. If somebody has more LNG capacity, give me a phone call. We have so much of business. We can't serve it because it is unexpected business which is coming our way. But outside that, I think we have a good capacity to serve the entire company and scaling a few factories is our strategy.
Okay. Let's go to Alex Virgo from Evercore.
I wondered if you could talk a little bit to the context of the decision to have a fixed date, i.e., 3-year targets as opposed to through cycle targets? And maybe talk a little bit about, I guess, the lift in the acceleration near term and the confidence that you clearly have on the next 3 years, I totally get that, but the transition to, I guess, building habit to be growing faster in the NPI, et cetera, et cetera.
I think the 3-year number is just to illustrate for everybody in this room to give something which is tangible. Our strategy is more longer term and new durable. We don't think we are going to come back to you in 2 or 3 years from time to say we don't think we're going to change our strategy. So fundamental strategy of having mission-critical segments, serving building, industrial and process, growing through new products, that's going to remain very robust. But as a public company, we need to give you some commitment you can hold ourselves accountable to. But then as Mike said very well, we think every day, how do we beat that $6 commitment we are making because that really is what will excite you and what will excite us.
We operate on the 3-year cycles in Honeywell. And if someone comes to me with a plan that has 10% CAGR like that, and it's linear, it's not believable. So really, I always discount the last year, but really focus on the first 2 years because if you can get that growth and the margin expansion in the first 2 years, you're pretty sure you get it on the back end. So it's really about next 18 months. And once we instrument the next 18 months, in 6 months increments, we can then talk about rolling forward the forecast. But that's our general, I would say, construct of financially, and we're quite convicted on what we're going to deliver here in the early cycle of that.
Let's squeeze 1 or 2 more questions, Mark, before we...
Yes. Let's go back to Julian for a final question.
Maybe one for Vimal, just because of your background in the process business. I remember you used to talk about positioning the portfolio differently there. But when we look at it now, it's still almost half petrochem and refining. So I guess when you -- how do you think about the growth profile of that piece of it? And kind of how -- in 5 years' time, let's say, how much of that segment should be petrochem and refining?
Yes. I mean, clearly, Julian, the actions we have taken on LNG was thoughtful to derisk our business, which is concerning refining petrochemicals. So I think that certainly has helped. And the outside growth in that is certainly going to change. And then we are equally focused to grow our business on the process side of the business in life sciences and in grid infrastructure.
On the core, we believe the biggest opportunity is OpEx leverage. There may not be a lot of capacity coming for refining petrochemicals, but nobody is shutting down any plant. So it means the money being spent on OpEx in terms of running these facilities better. That's why our mining installed base strategy is very critical. So I think that's going to enable our growth. A case in point is Ken's business never had any services. They licensed the technology and then sold the catalyst.
Now Ken believe he can create several hundred million dollars of services business from ground zero. He never had any. So all that for us is incremental growth. We're displacing somebody else who was providing those services, maybe small system integrators, small EPCs, maybe customers' in-house team. So getting the maximum share of demand in our core but pivoting towards some of these higher-growth markets like LNG, grid infrastructure and life sciences. That's why vertical strategy is important. We have called out life sciences and grid infrastructure as our priority verticals. We'll do organic growth. Nothing stops us to look at inorganic opportunities there to continue to build our business more diversity there. So more to come.
Great. We'll leave it there. A couple of points before we wrap up. Lucky for all of you. We have nice warm pullovers to put on, on your way out the door and great timing. And we're going to watch the second half of the customer video from before, and then Vimal will join us for closing remarks. So thank you again.
[Presentation]
Please welcome back Vimal Kapur.
All right. So again, I just wanted to thank everyone. I wanted to make sure that we start the day with the customer and end the day with the customer because I believe that customers drive our future. And you heard from several segment CEOs and how they're partnering with us every day to drive shape our future. I think this slide is a summary of where I started my day in the morning. Why own Honeywell Technologies, everybody has a lot of choices. But we have built a portfolio which is transformed as a pure-play global automation company.
And the portfolio mix and the business model really give us an optionality to have more than 10% earnings growth through cycle. And then AI is an optionality. I truly believe that this industry is going to transform itself. The timing is near term versus long term, and we are going to be leading that whole move of automation to autonomy. And finally, execution is in our DNA, whether it's our operating system or it's in our team.
So there's no -- this -- I've been in this segment, automation segment for 40 years. I just realized yesterday that I started working on 10th of June 1986. Today is 11th June. So I completed 40 years only in one segment. And I've never been excited about the future of automation industry, not because I'm CEO of the company, but the opportunities which is ahead of us. I'm really excited. I think this moment is a great moment for Honeywell Technologies. And I feel you all are excited in terms of future which falls ahead for us.
So thank you very much for being here. We have a great set of demos put together for you on the site. So do stop by for reception, and have a good rest of your day. Thank you very much.
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Honeywell International — Analyst/Investor Day - Honeywell International Inc.
Honeywell International — Analyst/Investor Day - Honeywell International Inc.
Investor Day: Honeywell legt Strategie für reines Automation‑Geschäft, Forge‑Plattform (Physical AI) und konkrete Finanzziele (Wachstum, Margen, ARR) dar.
Präsentationen, Demos und Q&A; Schwerpunkt auf Portfolio‑Bereinigung, Services/Software‑Mix, M&A‑Bolt‑ons und AI‑Partnerschaften (NVIDIA, Google).
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kern: Ziel ist ein reines, mission‑kritisches Automation‑Unternehmen mit Fokus auf Building, Industrial und Process Automation und einem Geschäftsmodell „build & mine“ (Installierte Basis verkaufen und dann per Services/Software monetarisieren).
- Plattform: Forge (Cloud + AI + Domänen‑Ontologie) soll verbundene Assets in wiederkehrende Umsatzströme und langfristig Agent‑/Autonomie‑Anwendungen verwandeln.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Portfolio: Seit 2024 mehrere Spins/Divestitures, gezielte Bolt‑on‑Akquisitionen (LNG, Security, etc.), Aerospace‑Spin steht unmittelbar bevor.
- Wachstumsfokus: Schwerpunkt auf vier vertikalen Treibern: AI/Data Centers/Semiconductor, Energie/LNG, Life Sciences, Hospitality; Ziel höhere Penetration in High‑Growth‑Vertikalen.
- Services: Ziel, Services & Software‑Anteil von ~40% auf ~45% zu erhöhen; Software‑ARR (~$1bn heute) soll ~15% p.a. wachsen.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Guidance: Management bestätigt organisches Ziel 4–6% und >10% adjusted income growth; EPS‑Ziel $6 bis 2029 (CFO: 10%+ CAGR).
- Finanzen: Verbleibende „stranded costs“ ~$290m; 200 bp strukturelle Margin‑Wirkung in 12 Monaten, +60 bp/a organisch erwartet.
- Partnerschaften: Demonstrationen mit NVIDIA und Google (Gemini) für Physical AI; Quantinuum‑IPO abgeschlossen (Honeywell hält ~47%).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- BA‑Nachhaltigkeit: Analysten hinterfragten, ob Building Automation Wachstum und Margen (26.5% → 29%) nachhaltig sind; Management zeigte konkrete Hebel (R&D, Channel, Forge) und Produktionshebel.
- IA‑Turnaround: Kritik an früheren OTIF/On‑time‑Delivery‑Problemen; Ziel ist Mid‑single‑digit Wachstum und +500 bp Segmentmarge in 3 Jahren, nach Operational‑Fixes und R&D‑Schub.
- Monetarisierung: Fragen zur Geschwindigkeit der Forge‑Adoption/ARR‑Ramp; Management nannte konkrete ARR‑ und Software‑Wachstumsziele, blieb aber vage zur Timing‑Skalierung von Autonomie‑Erlösen und Cross‑sell‑Upside.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Glaubwürdiger, operativ fundierter Plan: saubereres Portfolio, klarer Services/Software‑Hebel, kurzfristig sichtbare Margin‑Maßnahmen und konservative M&A‑Rubrik (Bolt‑ons $2–4bn). Wichtigste Upside‑Treiber sind Forge‑Adoption, vertikale Cross‑sell‑Szenarien und Quantinuum‑Optionen; Risiken bleiben Execution, Kunden‑Organisationswechsel für Autonomie und geopolitische Volatilität.
Honeywell International — Honeywell International Inc., 2026 Guidance/Update Call, Jun 08, 2026
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell 2026 Guidance Update Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark Macaluso, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's 2026 Guidance Update Conference Call. Joining me today are Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak; and Vice President of Financial Planning and Analysis, Rajiv Reddy.
This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website. From time to time, we post new information on this website that may be of interest or material to our investors.
Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including those described in our recent SEC filings.
This morning, we will review our guidance for 2026 ahead of our Investor Day later this week on Thursday, June 11. Last week, Honeywell Aerospace hosted their inaugural Investor Day and provided a pro forma financial outlook for 2026.
Today, we will provide a similar framework for the RemainCo entity, which will be named Honeywell Technologies. We'll provide a bridge for investors from our previous guidance to the RemainCo figures as well as provide additional color on the second half outlook post spin. As always, we'll leave time for your questions at the end with Mike, Rajiv and myself.
With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mike, who will begin on Slide 3.
Thank you, Mark, and good morning. We're nearing the end of Honeywell's multiyear transformation, and we're excited about what's ahead for Honeywell Technologies. To begin, today, we are reaffirming our prior full year outlook for Honeywell that we provided in our first quarter earnings call.
Importantly, the second quarter remains on track. Through May, demand remains strong, particularly in our building and process technology businesses, and we continue to see short-cycle recovery in Industrial Automation that began in the first quarter.
A few other points to highlight. We now expect the impact from the Middle East conflict to be roughly $50 million to $75 million of revenue, although we continue to monitor the situation closely for signs of further escalation. Segment margin is also trending in line with our guidance, and we continue to expect an acceleration in free cash flow in the second half after a slow start to the year.
As we plan for the spin-off of Aerospace on June 29, we are introducing a simpler reporting framework with three key changes. First, we removed the estimated implied results for Aerospace that were included in the former Honeywell's full-year outlook for revenue, earnings and free cash flow. We have also included the benefit of the Honeywell Aerospace framework license agreement, which will partially offset the temporary [ stranded ] cost impact.
Second, our guidance now removes financial estimates for Productivity Solutions and Services, and Warehouse and Workflow Solutions businesses beginning in the fourth quarter, which is the assumed closing date for both divestitures, while also adding estimates for the pending acquisition of Johnson Matthey Catalyst Technologies business, which is assumed to close in the third quarter.
Finally, we are removing the P&L impact of our overfunded pension and the full impact of our investment in Quantinuum from our adjusted results from prior and future periods to provide a clearer and more simple presentation of our performance.
I will talk more about each of these items in the coming pages. This outlook for Honeywell Technologies will also form the basis from which we will introduce new 3-year targets at our Investor Day on June 11.
Let's now turn to Slide 4 to discuss our latest outlook in our business segments. Here, we show a full year organic growth outlook for each segment and total Honeywell Technologies.
To start, Building Automation is continuing to outperform with strength in all regions across both products and solutions. As you will hear later this week from Bilal and team, the business is leading the charge with new innovative products that are driving share gains and continued growth above market.
We continue to expect PA&T sales to be roughly flat organically for the year, although we remain confident in a high single-digit growth outlook for this business in the second half due to the strength in orders and expected ramp in the conversion of backlog despite the transitory impact from the Middle East conflict. We're also starting to see stronger short-cycle catalyst demand.
We have raised our full year expectations for Industrial Automation from down low single digits to flat for the year as the short-cycle demand recovery continues, particularly in Europe and Asia, which we previously thought would be headwinds in 2026.
And last, strong pricing execution and discipline are meaningfully contributing to top line growth across the portfolio, more than offsetting rising inflation. Overall, we expect Honeywell Technologies to deliver 2% to 3% organic growth in 2026, with stronger growth expected in the second half.
Let me turn to Slide 5 to talk more about the details of Honeywell Technologies guidance. On this slide, we lay out the impact of each of the moving pieces that take us from our prior guidance for Honeywell to the Honeywell Technologies guide we are providing today.
First, the decision to exclude pension income from adjusted earnings removes $0.85 of EPS from prior guidance, which includes the impact from both Aerospace and Honeywell Technologies. We believe the separation is the right time to make the change and the exclusion of this nonoperational income from our adjusted earnings should reduce earnings volatility, increase visibility and improve free cash flow conversion.
While we are excluding pension income from our operational results, our roughly $5 billion overfunded pension represents real value to Honeywell shareholders. We're actively evaluating ways to monetize this surplus, and we will provide more details on our plans at a later date.
The next and most significant adjustment is the removal of Honeywell Aerospace, which represents approximately $5.50 of earnings. This includes roughly $19.2 billion of sales and $5 billion of segment profit at the midpoint of our prior expectations with roughly $3.3 billion of free cash flow prior to any stand-alone cost and cargo adjustments, but including a partial allocation for interest expense and below-the-line items.
Next, following Quantinuum initial public offering on June 4, we're removing the financial impact of our investment in business from earnings, a decision that aligns with our other efforts to simplify Honeywell Technologies results for investors. Notably, this removal improves our segment profit by approximately $300 million, which translates to roughly $0.19 of earnings and $100 million of free cash flow.
The teams and I also have been very focused on the elimination of stranded costs, and I recently shared that we have reduced our estimate of these costs on day 1 to less than $300 million, a roughly $0.38 impact to full year earnings. And I am pleased to share that roughly 75% of this total will be held by year-end, a sharp acceleration from where we began. I look forward to sharing more on this topic on Thursday.
Partially offsetting stranded costs is the benefit of the Aerospace trademark license, which amounts to $146 million to segment profit, a half year impact of $73 million in 2026 or $0.09 of EPS. The difference between the $225 million cash impact that Honeywell Aerospace cites in their Form 10 and Investor Day materials and the $146 million segment profit benefit you see here is due to the accounting treatment governing license expense on Aerospace books and license income on ours.
However, from a free cash flow perspective, the $91 million we show here represents a $225 million of cash prorated for half year and net of tax. Thus, our guidance now incorporates the expected exit of PSS and WWS from Industrial Automation and the Johnson Matthey Catalyst acquisition in PA&T.
We expect the dilution from these portfolio moves to be partially offset by a stronger-than-anticipated outlook in our Automation segment in the second half. All in, these items bring it to the midpoint of our initial Honeywell Technologies guidance for 2026.
Now let's turn to Slide 6. This page illustrates the walk of our 2026 guidance midpoint for Honeywell Technologies from the Honeywell guidance issued in April. One point to mention is that the basis point impact is calculated of the revised base after removing Aerospace sales and segment profit. The endpoint will be the starting point from which we issue our 3-year financial targets at our Investor Day on Thursday.
With all of these pieces in place, let's turn to Slide 7 for a summary of our full year and second half 2026 guidance for Honeywell Technologies. As previously mentioned, our 2026 Honeywell Technologies guidance excludes results from Honeywell Aerospace following the spin-off and subsequent reclassification of the business into discontinued ops.
Additionally, the guidance now assumes the divestiture of Productivity Solutions and Services, and Warehouse and Workflow Solutions businesses as of October 1 and assumes the acquisition of Johnson Matthey Catalyst Technologies as of July 1 for the purposes of your model.
And last, pension income and continuing results have been removed from our full year 2026 guidance entirely and in prior periods for comparison purposes.
Following these updates, Honeywell Technologies expects organic sales growth in the range of 2% to 3% for the year, including 3% to 5% in the second half. We expect full year segment margin expansion of 220 to 270 basis points, reflecting the prior year margin impact of stranded costs and our significant progress to date on the elimination of these costs as well as accretion related to the sale of PSS and WWS.
Importantly, we expect Honeywell Technologies will exit 2026 at approximately 22% segment margin. Full-year adjusted earnings per share should be $4.05 at the midpoint or up 22% to 28% versus prior year. Similar to segment margin, the strong year-over-year EPS growth reflects our rapid removal of Aerospace stranded costs.
Finally, we expect free cash flow of roughly $2 billion in 2026, with the majority of this coming in during the second half at an approximately 95% conversion rate. On a pro forma basis, we expect Honeywell Technologies to deliver 90%-plus conversion annually.
In the second half of the year, organic sales growth should increase to 3% to 5%, led by a sharp acceleration in Process Automation & Technology as our strong backlog begins to convert and demand for catalyst shipments materializes.
Margin dynamics should also improve in the second half, given the stranded cost and portfolio dynamics we discussed. And as a result, we expect second half segment margin of roughly 21.3% at the midpoint, up 350 basis points year-over-year.
Finally, earnings per share in the second half is expected to be in the range of $2.20 to $2.35, up 22% to 31%. Please note that our earnings per share guidance and 3-year targets to be issued on Thursday do not reflect the impact of the planned 1-for-2 reverse stock split, which was approved by our shareholders last week and is expected to take effect on June 29 at the time of the Aerospace spin.
We will provide more color on that final step closer to the effective date. You can also find details of the simplified below-the-line structure in the supplemental information section of our presentation, which includes estimates of our go-forward corporate and other below-the-line items, which will continue to decline in 2027.
Now let's move on to Slide 8 to wrap up. We hope you found the information presented in this call helpful in laying the foundation for Honeywell Technologies outlook ahead of our Investor Day. We believe the changes we are making today will provide a cleaner and more simple presentation of our performance going forward.
We are tracking ahead of schedule on our separation milestone with the Aerospace spin-off now expected to be completed on June 29, and I am very excited to see these 2 leading pure-play companies in option.
I also want to take a minute to congratulate Raj, [ Nitesh ] and the entire Quantinuum team on an incredibly successful IPO last week. We remain shareholders and supporters and look forward to partnering with Quantinuum on their continued success.
We also look forward to hosting everyone at our Investor Day on June 11 in New York City. This event will provide an excellent opportunity to share our strategy and long-term growth expectations.
With that, Mark, let's take the questions.
Mike, Rajiv and I are now available to answer your questions. We kindly ask that you please be mindful of others in the queue by asking one question and one related follow-up. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
2. Question Answer
This is really helpful. Just on the free cash flow conversion comments, Mike, I think the $2 billion represents about 80% of adjusted net income for this year. Just wondering, are there some one-timers in the free cash this year? And then going forward, the 90% plus, now that we've got pension income adjusted out, what are the barriers to getting towards 100% or close to 100%?
Nigel, I think if I just step from a first half to second half, first half for us was slower. A few reasons for it. Obviously, Middle East impacted us. Second half, we should be north of 95%. We have a lot of collections coming in. Demand is very strong.
And structurally, a few things are happening. Obviously, our tax rate is getting better going into the second half and the cash -- with that cash taxes, same for next year. And we're paying down debt aggressively. That's going to help us as well with better free cash flow conversion. And structurally, our portfolio is getting better.
So I wouldn't say 100% free cash flow conversion is not out of the realm of expectations for us, but something that we have to work our way through. And that's what I'm working for in the second half, but I cannot commit to it yet. Just a lot of moving pieces.
Okay. That's great. And then just a quick one on the net interest expense. You've got the dividend coming from Aerospace. Just wondering, what your plans are in terms of paying down debt? And what is the cash and debt balance driving that net interest?
Sure. So we -- in the short term, we're focusing on debt repayment, and we're targeting our leverage ratio below 3 by year-end. And from there, we'll see where we go. We obviously, like I said, expect much stronger free cash flow conversion in the second half. And our commitment is to get the debt lower this year and continue to do that next year.
Our next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays.
Maybe just wanted to start with the segment margin guidance. I just wanted to sort of check. I think previously, you talked about a flattish segment margin kind of year-on-year in the second quarter on the old basis. Just wondered if that was still on track.
And when we look at second half margins, is the way to think about it, it's sort of a 20% margin in the third quarter, 22% in the fourth quarter. Is that how you're thinking about the second half?
Julian, thank you for the question. Great question. So maybe first, I take us back to what we guided at the beginning of the year. So we guided 50 to 90 bps expansion operationally, then we had about 30 bps of [ Quantinuum drag ]. So if you take that out, we should be at 50 to 90. I would tell you that operationally, we'll probably expand north of 100 bps in this year.
And to your question on the second half then, I would expect third quarter to be around 21% and the fourth quarter about 22%. So really good story on margin expansion. I would say we're getting good mix, we're getting good volume leverage. We aggressively are taking out stranded costs. All of that is showing up in the margin rate.
That's great. And just one follow-up on the free cash point. Do you have -- maybe I missed it, but did you provide maybe what last year's number was on free cash flow for Honeywell Tech or the conversion rate? Just to give us some context to understand kind of how one-off the headwinds are this year on the free cash flow number.
I would say we were about 80% and moving to 90%. So I think that last year, we finished about 80%.
Our next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
I appreciate all the details. Maybe we start with what are your options for the overfunded pension plan? Just kind of set expectations here.
So look, I mean, there are multiple options. The pension is overfunded by about $2 billion. And we're obviously considering various options, and there are numerous ways you can structure the pension benefits on a go-forward basis. And it's an option for us.
Right now, in this year, we -- I don't have any significant or further plans on pension. That's something that we're definitely considering next year and look at it. But like I said, those are -- there are numerous ways to access this overfunding.
Great. And then can you just give us a sense of how the dollar amount on the Aero license was derived? Was this a negotiation? Just kind of how do you land on this number?
That's really -- it's really based on the fair market valuation, and we had a lot of advisers and third parties to help us with that. That's how we derive at the number. It's not really a point of negotiation. We wanted to leave Aerospace in the best possible shape go forward, and that's just how the fair market value played out for trademark.
Our next question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
Maybe just starting with the Middle East impact, the $50 million to $75 million in 2Q, I guess what's the level of conviction that, that kind of moves to zero in the back half of the year? And if you could give us a little bit of an update on what you're seeing with respect to impact to the Middle East today?
Sure. So I would say the very high level of conviction, obviously, for this quarter, assuming there is no significant re-escalation, if you will and the conflict continues to progress to deescalation and ramp up, we don't see any significant impact in terms of pressure for us in the Middle East. In fact, I would say we would see probably incremental demand showing up from Middle East.
Generally, I think with the conflict, what it generated is just a lot of demand globally as people are thinking through their own energy security. So our business is predominantly PA&T is seeing a lot more incremental demand outside of Middle East.
So I would say net for Honeywell and for our guide, I would say this is -- will end up being a tailwind or incremental volume that will have to contend with, as you know, in many of our places, we're already sold out in the business. So we're working our way through that.
So I would say that if the conflict kind of remains the way it is, we can absorb it in our guide for the rest of the year. I don't see any big red flags right now, assuming things continue to deescalate.
Okay. And then just a follow-up on stranded costs. You said you'd be kind of 75% of the way through that by year-end 2026, which is impressive progress. What about the remaining 25%? Is that something that can be fully eliminated in 2027?
Yes. So our goal is to fully eliminate in the first half of next year. The 75% of the $290 million that we're talking about, that cost is already actioned through repositioning programs, et cetera. And it just needs to show up in our run rate.
And then we are essentially resetting the bars for the teams, and that incremental cost that is going to be taken out by really in two areas. First, just a broader adoption of shared services, and we're simplifying beyond stranded costs. So there's some additional simplification we're pushing in the first half of next year. 100% confident we'll be able to eliminate that stranded cost and then some.
Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
Congratulations. Just a question on pricing. What kind of pricing is now embedded in the stand-alone Honeywell Technologies?
Yes. So I would say pricing is progressing well for us. We see -- first, maybe I'll start with that.
We have just -- see a lot of demand. Our orders are high. May quarter-to-date, our orders are in the range of about high single digits, potentially double digits for the quarter. So we feel really good about that. With that, what's happening, the pricing is falling. So I think we'll finish second quarter about 4% pricing and the second half should be around that range, so 3.5% to 4.5%.
Fantastic. And just maybe a little bit -- sort of Building Automation continues to be strong. Can you just sort of provide a little bit more visibility what's happening inside there? Maybe just looking building solutions, fire solutions, security and access, building management, power infrastructure; any color as to why this remains so good for so long?
Sure. So Bilal will talk about it on Thursday. And I think we have a great story on Building Automation. Building Automation has been introducing new products at a very high rate for the last 2 years. We have a lot of exciting offerings coming into the market. We feel like we're taking share. And globally, if you think about Europe, Asia, China, these regions are growing for us as well. So there's a multitude of factors that's helping us.
And I would say Forge is maturing. And you'll hear on Thursday a lot about Forge and our connected offering. And I think it's just outstanding story. So Building Automation orders this quarter, I've been with Honeywell for 6 years, I haven't seen orders that strong yet in the company. So we definitely are taking share. At least that's my view based on what we see in order rates, and this is driven by the number of offerings and solutions that we're providing into the market.
Our next question comes from the line of Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
I was intrigued by your comments on improving short-cycle catalyst demand. And as you know, catalyst has continued to be a bit of a drag or at least lumpy. So maybe you can talk about that. And then what are you seeing at Johnson Matthey as it comes into the fold?
Sure. So short cycle, I think your question was on Industrial Automation?
On catalyst demand.
On catalyst, I'm sorry. On catalyst, we -- so as you know, we talk about a lot over the last several quarters that there is still oversupply and not a lot of demand, et cetera. As crack spreads got better and our customers realize they have opportunity to really improve their yields and get that better price, we're starting to see a lot of orders on catalyst.
So net-net for the year, I think the catalyst sales will still be low single-digit growth, but we see a significant step-up in the second half, double-digit step-up in catalyst demand out there. So we really feel good about the progression. And with that also, we feel better, obviously, with about our cash flow position as this business is going to generate a lot of cash flow for us in the second half.
And Mike, maybe same question on IA. I mean, Europe and China getting better, which you did not expect. Are you seeing the same in the U.S. too, given the improvement here in PMI as well?
Yes. I think IA is a little bit different for us. There's another factor there, which is the self-help factor with [ Pete ] coming onboard, spend a lot of time just simplifying the business, focusing the business; that business now is really pure-play measurement and sensing.
We're doing much better on supply chain. That allows us to do better on pricing. We're driving volume. We simplified this business significantly structurally, which helps margin expansion.
And then there is -- with our end markets, there is some reshoring going on that's helping the business grow as well as China, we thought it was going to be a drag for us this year, and it isn't. So we just have a lot of tailwinds.
Generally, I would say, for the whole business, if you look at our three segments, all our three segments have momentum right now going into the second half. So I feel really, really good about the setup.
Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research Partners.
Just thinking about getting the model together, any chance you can tell us what Q1 '26 EPS is on this basis?
We can, but probably -- I don't have my notes on this right now with me. But I'll come back to you on this.
Okay. Great. And then can you just come back to PSS and WSS? We got obviously the net here with Johnson Matthey. But thinking about rolling this into '27, what is the actual kind of segment profit contribution or lack thereof in the guide separate and apart from Johnson Matthey?
To answer your first question, and then we can follow up after the call, but the 1Q actual should be $0.89. That's the 1Q EPS.
Can you just ask your second question again? Sorry, we were looking for...
Yes. I just wanted to get -- so we've got kind of the net effect in portfolio actions, right, between WWS, PSS and Johnson Matthey. Can we just isolate what the contribution for PSS and WWS are inside that number?
Yes. Jeff, for at least part of those, we haven't said. And obviously, it's the sum of those 3 plus an estimates for JM, which, again, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves seeing the deal hasn't closed yet. So I would just think of it as you have the two businesses coming out, a small addition for JM.
And then on top of that, you have the stronger outlook in the base business. So it's just a little bit splitting hair, [indiscernible] had said, some of that we just haven't disclosed for agreements with the sellers and buyers.
Our next question comes from the line of Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.
My first question, just to clarify, the stranded cost of $290 million, that's a full year number. So what does the split look like for stranded costs in the second half of the year?
$200 million, $290 million for the year, we'll give a little bit more color on Thursday. So you'll see it on Thursday when we talk. But like I said, majority of this cost is already actioned. It just needs to show in our run rate, meaning the restructuring actions, et cetera, were taken, the people that we had to take out those people already exited.
So it's just a matter of that showing up in our run rate. And like I said earlier, we should end first quarter about 21% segment margin. And in the fourth quarter, it will be about 22%.
Okay. All right. Great. And then just lastly, the Quantinuum exit, how are you guys thinking about monetizing your remaining stake? Any comments around that would be helpful.
So I would say, first, once again, I'd like to congratulate the team on the raise through the IPO. I think that the business now is extremely well positioned as far as having capital. We're making a lot of progress commercially as well as from a strategy execution standpoint, and we'll stay in the business for a while. But it is an optionality for us that we'll definitely consider down the road. But we don't have the urgency to get out, given that the business is such a good position commercially and where it's going.
And then look, we will have a book adjustment coming up, obviously, as part of the deconsolidation, et cetera, we'll update our valuation of the business and reflect on our books. So it's going to be $5 billion plus pickup in terms of the value of the business and that's reflected on the books. So you can from there infer how much potential cash -- incremental cash flow might come through any modernization down there.
Our next question comes from the line of Amit Mehrotra with UBS.
I guess when you guys were building the first half to back half plan, this acceleration or step-up in organic growth; maybe just help us bridge the confidence level there between backlog conversion, the order momentum that you're seeing, short-cycle recovery, comps, whatever.
Just curious in terms of the confidence level in that step-up and where is that coming from, is it already within the backlog? Or is it some extrapolation of the order trends you're seeing now?
Sure. So let me maybe just level set on where we are here for the quarter and how we're thinking about the second half. So May quarter-to-date, our orders across the board are high single digits. Building automation is closer to double digits. So we see strong orders, both on short cycle and long cycle.
Let me just maybe talk through various segments and start with PA&T. In PA&T, as you remember, we always talked about us having a record backlog and that backlog building. This quarter, this backlog is starting to convert. Why do I say that? I start seeing cash, customers are paying us advances, we're mobilizing our people to go work on these projects and start the engineering work.
We see significant pickup in the second half from that project work, and we are 100% confident in the volume coming. On top of that, you have the increased catalyst demand that's coming as well, and that's short cycle. And -- but I think that given where the oil prices are today and just the general demand, we will continue to see strong performance in PA&T.
On Building Automation, Building Automation now has been delivering 7 quarters high single-digit growth. We continue to guide them at mid-single-digit plus, and the orders are extremely strong. We're seeing a lot of volume from our products, but we also see volume in projects and services.
There is a little bit of pull in, if you will, from a second half to the first half, the customers are driving because we did announce price increases, so people want to lock in their pricing. That said, that gives me confidence this accelerated demand, it gives me confidence that the projects that people have in their pipeline are going.
And then finally, on the Industrial Automation, a lot of it has been self-help story. But the team is, again, starting to introduce NPI. Volume is better as far as demand. We're able to satisfy that demand. So the business is going to grow in the second half, low single digit. And based on everything I see, it should grow mid-single digit next year.
And then Pete is definitely taking advantage of reshoring happening and pivoting the business to being more focused. So across the board, like I said earlier, all three segments have momentum.
Great. That's very helpful. And then just a separate question on profit trends. So obviously, the back half guidance is helpful. There's a few moving pieces like the trademark license economics, I think, is helping maybe $145 or so million, and then you've got WWS and PSS leaving.
So on the trademark licenses, is that -- should we think about that as kind of sustainable as we exit this year? And then I assume PSS and WWS, there's obviously some margin and growth mix dynamic. Maybe you can talk about what those businesses exiting does from a mix perspective.
The trademark income is just helping us with stranding cost. And then obviously, it will subside over a period of time, but we're going to be continuing to simplify and drive margin expansion operationally. So over the next few years, this will offset.
What I said earlier, operationally versus the guide that we gave at the beginning of the year, so the 50 to 90 bps operationally, right now, we're more like 100 to 120 bps of margin expansion operationally on top of everything else that's happening structurally as far as the portfolio adjustments, et cetera.
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.
I know you talked about better Industrial Automation growth this year and now expecting flat because of maybe better performance in Asia and Europe, I believe. But can you just maybe talk about which categories or product verticals are driving that better-than-expected outlook?
I would prefer just Pete talk to it. He has a lot of material that he's going to share, and it's only a few days away. So I wouldn't do it justice, and I'd prefer Pete talk about it.
Appreciate that. Fair enough. And then maybe just, I guess, to follow up, it seems like Q4 is really the first quarter where we kind of have a real, I guess, pro forma for all the portfolio movement that's happened with some coming in, some going out.
So I guess, how do we think about that 22% margin rate in Q4 as we look into '27? It seems like there will still be some stranded cost out coming out of there. And anything else just to call out from that Q4 jumping off point?
So in fourth quarter, we still have about -- like we said, about $85 million of stranded costs that will take out in the first half of the year. We we will finish the year about 22% margin. And then we'll talk about 2027 when we get to the beginning of the year.
But we have implemented a multiyear margin expansion framework that is based on operational improvement. So it's price, it's mix, it's leverage on fixed cost. And structurally, we're continuing to simplify the business significantly, and I'll talk about it later this week.
Yes. And Chris, I would just add, don't forget, just to think about the seasonality too. Yes, we are exiting '22, but Q4 is always the strongest for this business. Obviously, we have a limited history of just this group of assets, but you shouldn't think of this as goes up into perpetuity. Obviously, Michal will say a lot more about the long-term targets in a couple of days. But just remember, Q4 is also historically the strongest quarter of the year.
Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Buscaglia with BNP Paribas.
I just wanted to check on -- you made the comment that you had some large orders in the Process segment. Do you mind adding some color to that? Like what's incremental that you're seeing this quarter? And I know last quarter, you cited some strength in LNG. Can you talk a little bit about that [ market ] specifically?
Sure. So it's the orders coming from two areas. A lot of the orders are coming from LNG. And we obviously, like I said, we have the tales orders, et cetera. You'll hear more about it here as we go through the quarter, make the announcements, but we have some orders in Africa, we have some orders in Middle East. So generally, we feel good about the backdrop here and our commercial pursuits and how they're starting to materialize in terms of firm orders.
Okay. Got it. And then in the call, you cited Q2 tracking in line. You did raise a little bit on your Industrial Automation front. So wondering, should we assume midpoint or maybe slightly better than the midpoint?
For the second quarter?
Just Q2, yes.
Yes. I should say it's in line. I mean it's rounding at this stage. I would say that everything indicates that the quarter is going to be good, but it's within our guide.
Our next question comes from the line of Jairam Nathan with Daiwa Capital Markets.
So just wanted to understand for Honeywell Technologies, the CapEx percentage of sales, R&D run rate, yes, that would be great.
Sure. So I would say -- from a CapEx standpoint, everything we've done with the portfolio makes us a bit CapEx lighter. Our CapEx over the next few years should be around 3% of revenue, and that's with investment in capacity, incremental investment in capacity in LNG. So feel good about CapEx.
And R&D, our R&D as a percentage of sales should be north of 4.5%, probably this year will be 4.8%. As if you remember, we stepped up our R&D spend last couple of years. And we feel that at 4.8% -- north of 4.5%, it's appropriate level of R&D spend. And it's not pressure to us for margin expansion. We continue to take out fixed costs down despite taking up our R&D investment.
And finally, in terms of -- you talked about on HPS, you talked about Middle East in terms of energy diversification. But is there -- are you seeing any reconstruction benefit? And -- or if not, what do you think the timing there would be?
Any -- sorry...
The reconstruction of facilities that have been damaged and things like that.
Yes, 100%. I mean we're actively talking to our customers. We're on the ground with our customers. Dan was there on the ground a couple of times, Bilal, Jim. So the whole leadership team has been in the Middle East since the conflict, and we're working through it. And over the next -- this quarter and quarter after, you should see some announcements on orders, but the reconstruction has already begun.
Our final question comes from the line of Chigusa Katoku with JPMorgan.
Just starting with IA, I was curious, so the fourth quarter is when you'll have the steady-state portfolio at IA. So I was curious your thoughts on what the fourth quarter exit rate for organic growth would be.
Yes. So look, I would tell you that it will be low single digits to mid-single digits. I have a high level of confidence that next year, the business is going to grow mid-single digits. We obviously right now, we are guiding low single digits, but the team is having momentum and mid-single digit in the fourth quarter is not out of realm of possibility, but we'll continue to be cautious.
Okay. Sounds good. And then similarly, for PA&T, do you expect Johnson Matthey to grow in line with the high single digit? And kind of what kind of exit rate do you expect there in the fourth quarter?
I would say, like I said earlier, we have a good momentum going to the second half in PA&T. And I'll just leave it at that for now. We'll have more to say when we report second quarter.
I would now like to turn the call back over to Mike Stepniak for any closing comments.
Thank you all for joining us today. We really appreciate your time and support, and we are looking forward to seeing many of you in New York later in the week. And I just want to say, have a great day.
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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Honeywell International — Honeywell International Inc., 2026 Guidance/Update Call, Jun 08, 2026
Honeywell International — Honeywell International Inc., 2026 Guidance/Update Call, Jun 08, 2026
Honeywell liefert ein separates 2026‑Leitbild für das verbleibende Unternehmen „Honeywell Technologies“ nach dem Aerospace‑Spin, mit klarer Guidance zu Wachstum, Margen und Cashflow.
Wesentliche Änderungen: Aerospace entfällt, PSS/WWS sollen verkauft werden, Johnson Matthey Catalyst wird akquiriert, Pensionseffekt und Quantinuum‑Effekt werden aus Adjusted‑Ergebnissen genommen.
📊 Kernbotschaft
- Fokus: Vorstellung einer sauberen, eigenständigen Guidance für Honeywell Technologies nach dem Aerospace‑Spin zum 29. Juni.
- Operative Lage: Nachfrage stark in Building Automation und Process Automation & Technology; kurzfristige Erholung in Industrial Automation.
- Ziel: Drei‑Jahres‑Ziele werden beim Investor Day (11. Juni) aus dieser Basis abgeleitet.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Portfolio: Aerospace wird ausgegliedert; Productivity Solutions & Services (PSS) und Warehouse & Workflow Solutions (WWS) sollen im Q4 verkauft werden; Johnson Matthey Catalyst soll zum 1. Juli hinzukommen.
- Kostensenkung: Stranded costs auf < $300M reduziert; ~75% Ausschleusung bis Jahresende, vollständige Eliminierung angestrebt Anfang 2027.
- Monetarisierung: Überfundierte Rente (~$2bn) bleibt potenzielle Wertquelle; Optionen werden geprüft.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Wachstum: Honeywell Technologies erwartet organisches Wachstum 2–3% für 2026, 3–5% im 2. Halbjahr.
- Profitabilität: Segmentmargen sollen um 220–270 Basispunkte steigen; Exit‑Marge ~22% in 4Q26.
- Ergebnis & Cash: Adjusted EPS $4.05 (Mitte) (+22–28% YoY) und freier Cashflow ~ $2,0 Mrd. mit starker Konzentration auf H2 (95% Conversion H2; proforma >90% jährlich).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Free Cash Flow: H2‑Stärke durch Sammlungen, bessere Steuer‑ und Zinslage; Management zielt auf starke Reduktion der Verschuldung (Leverage <3x).
- Stranded Costs & Lizenz: Details zur Berechnung und Timing (Aero‑Trademark liefert $146M Segmentprofit; Cashwirkung anders bilanziert); verbleibende ~25% der Stranded Costs sollen H1/27 eliminiert werden.
- Nachfrage‑Treiber: Building Automation mit starken Bestellungen/Marktanteilsgewinnen; Catalyst‑Nachfrage soll H2 deutlich anziehen; Industrial Automation durch Selbsthilfe und Besserung in Europa/Asien.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Relevanz: Die Guidance‑Anpassungen schaffen eine transparentere Basis für Honeywell Technologies: moderates Wachstum, deutlichere Margin‑Verbesserung und hoher Cashflow‑Fokus. Kurzfristige Risiken sind Middle‑East‑Effekte (Q2 ~ $50–75M) und Unsicherheiten beim Timing von Portfolio‑Transaktionen, aber die operative Dynamik (Building, PA&T, Pricing) stützt die Prognose und bietet Aktionären klarere Sicht auf künftiges EPS‑ und Free‑Cash‑Flow‑Potenzial.
Honeywell International — Wolfe Research 19th Annual Global Transportation & Industrials Conference
1. Question Answer
I think before we kick off the conference, I thought I'd make a few opening remarks. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Nigel Coe. I lead coverage of the U.S. industrial sector here at Wolfe Research. And it's my pleasure to welcome you to the -- first of all, on behalf of the Scott Group, Myles Walton, the sales team, corporate access teams and also our founder, Ed Wolfe. I do -- I want to give you a warm welcome to the 19th Annual Wolfe Industrials and Transports Conference.
I use the word warmly because today is going to be a warm one. Temperature outside today is going to be over 90 degrees. The first day in New York, over 90 degrees this year. So what a great day to be in this small confined room with 400 people. So, so far, the air conditioning is working. We've got some cold air coming through and long may that continue. So as you'd expect for a U.S. industrials conference, we're going to be running the AC really hard. We're going to have CEOs on the stage, and we've got AC come out of the vents. So we'll endeavor to keep you guys as cool and comfortable as possible.
We've got another really great lineup of corporates this year. We've got 106 corporates attending for one-on-ones and presentations. We've got 577 investors registered, and we're hosting 526 one-on-one meetings. So that's a really good lineup, new records for the conference. And I'd like to really thank all of you for both corporates and investors for supporting this conference. It's not easy to pull us off. So I do want to say a big thank you to our corporate access teams for really just the dedication and hard work of making sure all the logistics line up.
And finally, I do want to just remind you, we've got a cocktail event this evening, kicks off at 5:00 p.m. I would love to see as many of you there as possible, just to mingle and in a sort of very casual environment at 5:00 p.m., but we'll see if we can get the bar track to open a little bit earlier than that. So that's it for my prepared remarks. Once again, thank you for being here. And yes, okay, we're good to start. It's 8:00 a.m. So it's time to get into the conference.
And it's -- I've got 4 fireside chats to kick off the conference, and it's my great pleasure to welcome Honeywell. I can't think of a better way to start the conference than with Honeywell. And it's my pleasure to welcome Mike Stepniak, CFO and SVP of Honeywell, to the stage. So Mike, thank you for being here.
Thank you. Thank you for having us today. Really appreciate it. Good morning, everybody. Maybe before we get to Q&A, I'll just give you a quick update on what's going on in Honeywell, where we're at. But as we announced, separation will take place on June 29. That's the first day of the third quarter. And we are in the final stages of separating, I would say, all green lights as far as we go. Aero Analyst Day, just once again, it will be in Phoenix on June 3. There will be a couple of events on June 2 as a prelude to that. And the Analyst Day for RemainCo will be here in New York City on June 11. So obviously, everybody is welcome, and we have great events lined up. Operationally, things are going well. We'll talk about it today, but I would say, obviously, we're reconfirming our forecast for the year and the guide and a lot of, I would say, positivity in the markets generally.
Great. Thanks, Mike. We're going to spend today talking predominantly about Honeywell Automation, I think. But you mentioned all green lights for the spin. Any remaining hurdles to cross here? Or are you pretty much good to go at this point?
We're clear to go. We're obviously all the way to the end, there are some activities and post spin, you have some transitional services, TSAs, things like that. But operationally, we're ready. So I don't foresee any issues as far as the 29th.
Great. Sounds good to know. It hasn't exactly been a huge amount of time since you reported results, but we are 2 months into the quarter. Anything to comment in terms of moving pieces around the portfolio, particularly interested in this Middle East headwind that you're forecasting?
Sure. So maybe I'll address that first. Middle East is resilient, and it's -- I would actually say it's better than what we thought it was going to be. Customers are extremely active. We already sent our teams to the region, including all 3 of our general managers have been visiting customers. So works are underway as far as repairs, et cetera. Underlying demand is still there.
So I think we said $100 million to $150 million pressure in the second quarter. That's looking much better. It's going to be ways up $100 million. And customers from order activity, I see customers not only looking for repairs, but also thinking about the future expanding, et cetera. So really good demand, I would say, coming up in the midterm from the region.
Okay. And anything else to highlight across the portfolio?
Sure. So maybe I'll just go through all of our segments. Building Automation sees strength across the board. And as you know, they've been printing high single digits the last 6 quarters. We are guiding to mid-single-digit plus. Based on everything I see in the second quarter, they'll have another outstanding quarter. So that portfolio is performing extremely well. Industrial Automation for us has been a story of self-help. And with Pete Lau coming in and applying some of the knowledge transfer that he brought from Fire and some of his external pursuits, we're seeing a lot of improvement. And we also see green shoots in terms of underlying market.
So I feel like the business stopped losing share and starting to gain share and will be growing into the second half. So a lot of positivity there. And obviously, transformation of the portfolio is helping us a lot as well.
And then on process automation technology, that's a business that has been facing pretty hard dynamics. In the second quarter, they're lapping pretty tough comps from last year, but they're sitting on the record backlog, and they'll have another outstanding quarter from an order standpoint. And there is a significant inflection coming back into the second half that we talked about, and we have a strong visibility to that volume. And orders are extremely, I would say, are picking up both on the catalyst side now on the short cycle and from the projects. Our LNG business is sold out now for 3.5 years. So really good, I would say, tailwind going into the second half. Now I remind you, though, second quarter is a tough quarter for the business. So that's not changing, but we're seeing a lot of inflection in the second half.
Okay. And the backlog, does that give you confidence in that inflection? Do you have that visibility? Or is that more beyond this year?
It's the second half of next year. So it's a very high-quality backlog. What I mean by it, we see projects going to FID. When they go to FID, we start work. So the teams are starting work because they have financing. And then we're having a lot of discussions now with customers on catalyst. So that interest is going to lead to orders as well.
Okay. And we talk about projects. Obviously, LNG is what we have in our minds mostly. But what else beyond LNG, are you seeing that?
Look, I mean, U.S. doesn't talk about ESG a lot. We were just last week in Europe. ESG in Europe is quite alive. There are lots going on, a lot of interest. Same with Latin America and Asia. I think this disruption that happened here in Iran reminded people how fragile the whole ecosystem is that people are looking for energy security. And I'm confident these projects are starting to come back. We had a couple of projects go FID in the second quarter, predominantly in Latin America, but we see ESG coming back.
No, ESG is not quite dead yet.
I actually -- I think it's going to be resurrected.
Right, I think so. And then going back to Building Automation, you mentioned another -- I think the word was outstanding quarter from Building Automation. Maybe just take a step back, we're not seeing too many of your competitors growing at this level. Maybe just unpack what's driving that outgrowth.
We did several strategic shifts over the last couple of years in the Building Automation business. One, we moved many of our teams and the focus in region for region, where we can be more intimate with our customers. We revamped very early our NPI machine and R&D. We talked about it last year. We reinvested into, our R&D and R&D was about 50 bps of margin pressure for us last year. That's about $350 million across the company. Just last year alone, our Fire business had over 30 NPIs come to the market.
And Forge is a big deal for us as far as connected and driving the connected offering. And Bilal and Suresh talked about early in the year, but this is really taking off for us. So we see growth in our verticals, and we'll continue to pivot to high-growth verticals for us, which is for us, it's life sciences, it's hospitality, hospitals, data center as well, although data center is still fairly small for us, but we're seeing growth across the board.
If you had to rank order the NPI versus Forge as a driver of that growth, enabler of that growth, would you say one is more important than the other?
So really, NPI is all about just installing your -- creating installed base and growing your installed base. Where I see most Forge opportunities for us is moving really to autonomous operations, which for us, a lot of it is in the aftermarket. If you think about technicians retiring, not having people to come to service buildings or whatever facility you have. That's where really connected comes in. That's where Forge comes in. That's where cognition comes in, where you can run and operate facilities remotely with fewer people. And that's where we see the benefit of Forge coming in.
Okay. Now Forge has been around for quite some time, but I think it's now starting to reinflect. And I'm just wondering is AI starting to enable some tools that customers are now seeing real value.
Yes. So AI, I think, is alive, obviously. I can tell you in Honeywell, we are deploying AI on the cost side. For us, this is really a productivity tool. And you have to be able -- in order to be effective in it, you have to deploy it at scale. So you need really processes that are scalable and at scale in order to be applied those tools and be cost effective for you. And that's what we're doing from Honeywell standpoint inside the company, if you think about how we are creating NPI, how our engineers work, a lot of the spectrum processes use AI.
On the commercial side, for our line of work, it's a little bit different. You can't just come in and take AI from the street and apply it into a process plant that you have very strict, I would say, operating parameters and you have 40, 50 years of domain expertise in terms of how we design these. So where we're deploying right now, AI is really just for Forge and really focusing on our domain expertise and which is around controls and critical operations.
But in terms of Honeywell, the way you operate Honeywell, you're not seeing big displacement of traditional roles by AI at this point?
No, we don't.
No. Okay. Okay. Aerospace, I do want to just touch on -- maybe just going back to 1Q, the supply chain issues that you saw. Obviously, growth was well below what you expected. Maybe just bring us up to the speed. Well, maybe first of all, just maybe just run through where you're seeing the barriers on the supply chain, what you're doing to overcome those? And how are we tracking through the second quarter?
I would say, maybe first, to talk about the second quarter. So Jim guided mid-single digit to high single digit for the quarter. And I think I'll leave it at that. They'll have their Analyst Day in a couple of weeks. They can talk more about it. As you know, the quarters in that industry are very back-end loaded. So it's really the last month of the quarter where you get majority of your output. And I think that's what the team is instrumenting. Everything I understand, April was encouraging. So it's definitely will print better results than the first quarter, but they still have some work to do.
As far as the supply chain issues in Aerospace, specifically related to Honeywell, it's on the mechanical side. On the mechanical side, we -- I remind you that the business produced 14 quarters in a row, double-digit output growth from factories. First quarter, I think, was unusual, and the team got surprised with a few late-stage decommits from the suppliers. They're working through that. But the supply issues, I would say, continue. We've done a lot in terms of investing in our own supply chain. We've done a lot in terms of investing in our suppliers as far as tooling, testing, et cetera. But right now, the capacity of the supply for us, it's about 10% to 12% year-over-year growth, and we really need something like 15%.
Okay. It seems like it's a lot of the smaller links in the supply chain that's where the pressure points are.
That's right. And that really comes to the nature of the mechanical supply chain. It's more fragmented. It's smaller players. Some of them are not well capitalized, et cetera. So you either have to assist them or you have to in-source it, et cetera. So the team is kind of working through that.
Okay. And when you say mechanical, is it mainly on APUs and engines or is it?
It's more engines, more engine pronounced. It's forgings, castings, plates, things like that.
Okay. Nuts and bolts basically.
Exactly.
Yes. Okay. And maybe just before we move on to separation, some of the separation items to consider. Industrial Automation, maybe just bring us to speed in terms of the timing for the PSS and warehouse exits. And then maybe just remind us what's left in IA at this point. We know there's sensing, there's smart meters, anything else to think about there?
Sure. So the business will be post TLW exit, it will be about $3.5 billion, and it's pure-play now measurement and instrumentation business. Quite excited about it. We have a lot of domain expertise. We have good positions, much more focused and that's why I'm so confident in the inflection of the business, both from a top line standpoint, but also very important from a margin expansion standpoint. The business right now is quite dilutive to Honeywell. Over the next 2 years, it's going to lead the margin expansion for the company, and you'll see that at the Investor Day, and you'll see essentially impact immediately as we go through the second half. So I'm quite excited about the inflection of that business.
And any help you can give us in terms of once we extract those 2 businesses, how the margins look for the business?
I would say there -- the businesses are dilutive to overall Honeywell, obviously, but also to IA. I would just ask you to be a little bit more patient with us, and we'll have that information on the 11th.
Do you think that again, this is probably a question for back in June. But do you think these are low to mid-20% type margin businesses because that's obviously where Honeywell is?
The business we're exiting?
No, no. The remaining IA business.
Yes, the business -- look, I mean, it's -- for the business to earn its keep in Honeywell portfolio will have to be north of 20%. So that's what we're working for.
Okay. Okay. And obviously, $3.5 billion makes it a little less scale than the other 2 segments. Is the intention to build -- to refocus acquisition activity within IA?
Sure. So maybe I'll talk about it. And we have a discussion at the investor event about how our acquisitions are doing. But -- when you talk to Pete, what you'll see is that within Industrial Automation, we have a lot of white space and the industry itself is quite fragmented. So there is a lot of opportunity there as far as do M&A, but we obviously will be careful to make sure the assets that we add and when we add them, they continue to be accretive for us, and we see a strong technology fit. I would just leave it at this.
And if you look at our portfolio, process automation technologies are pretty well provisioned with acquisitions. They have a lot to work with as far as organic growth and margin expansion. So is Building Automation. The Access Solutions business is doing extremely well. We'll be looking at maybe some bolt-ons down the road there. And then the focus is really on Industrial Automation at this stage.
Yes. Okay. We do still get questions about the possibility of a big bang transformational acquisition within IA. It seems you've been indicating some a bit more maybe creative and maybe I don't know, tangential is the word, but where do we stand on that?
That's probably a better question for Vimal when we talk to him. But generally, I think where our head is we don't want to bet an enterprise on something big and transformative. We've seen companies that get in trouble with big acquisitions like that. What we find works for us the best is bolt-on, which for us, it's $2 billion to $4 billion ticket type assets. We tend to know how to absorb them quickly and realize commercial synergies in the best way.
Okay. I'll take 1 or 2 more questions, and then I'll throw the Q&A open to the audience. Maybe just think about the Aero separation. You mentioned on track, maybe some TSA agreements to dot i's and cross t's. Maybe just bring us up to speed on the stranded costs. You said $350 million to $400 million stranded costs. That's run to the low end of that range, I think, is what you said. But maybe just where do you expect to be on day 1?
Sure. So we thought stranded costs was going to be around $400 million when we looked at it in January. We obviously went after stranded costs for a while now before Solstice. And by the way, remind you, Solstice is up 70%. I just want to shout out to the team. They're doing extremely well. We will show up in June with probably less than $300 million stranded cost and majority of the stranded cost is already being addressed. So meaning it's related to repositioning, et cetera. And we've already provisioned for it as far as executing the stranded cost.
So by year-end, I'm assuming right now about $100 million of stranded costs. It's a really good story. Team really rallied around this. And given we're going through separation, but we're also trying to grow the business, et cetera, I think it's really strong focus from the team on getting the stranded costs in the box quickly.
Okay. So just to make sure I understand that. So less than $3 million of stranded costs on day 1 of the separation.
On June 29, that's correct.
Right. Okay. That's really impressive. Okay. And then the restructuring actions to accomplish that will be part of the acquisition onetimers, I think?
Most of it is onetime cost, correct.
Yes. Okay. And then pension. Can you talk about pension, any decisions on pension income?
So for people that don't follow our pension discussion is, I'll just remind you, our pension is 40-plus percent overfunded, more like 46% overfunded. We did and we're doing a natural split on the pension between Aerospace and Honeywell. What I mean by that is we're essentially dividing the pension base when employees were and overfunding goes proportionally with that. So Aerospace where we get about 55% of the pension assets, RemainCo will be left with the rest.
With that said, we're still having discussions with our Board on what's the best treatment for the pension. There are 2 schools of thought. One is obviously, you get implicit value for the pension because it is an asset. The second school of thought it's quite volatile. It affects your free cash flow metrics. It skews the quality of earnings, et cetera. So we're finalizing that discussion. Obviously, we'll have more to say on the 11th. Do you have a thought on it?
My free advice and it's free because it's worth is I do think that free cash flow is the key.
That's correct.
And I think the pension just adds noise personally. I'd get just going clean on earnings. Not to say it's not clean. But maybe just going back to the pension surplus. You've sort of referenced the possibility of monetizing the surplus. Any thoughts on that?
There are 2 different ways you can do it. And I don't want to take a lot of time today on that and people can read it. But if you look at what IBM did or what Kodak did or what Nokia is doing, I mean, those are several different options. You can structure it in a way where you open in your defined benefit plans, you can straight up exit it and sell it, which -- but it's very tax inefficient. And there was actually in the One Big Beautiful Bill, there was some legislation proposed where you could fund some of your employee benefits from the, I would say, from the overfunding that didn't pass, but nonetheless, it is being discussed. So maybe we'll see more about it in the future.
Okay. Great. Thanks, Mike. Enough pension. Otherwise, we'll send anyone asleep. Any questions from the audience? Any questions for hand up. Otherwise, I'll keep going. No, -- everyone likes to just listen to me talk and ask questions. So thinking about Quantinuum, I know there's an S-1 on Quantinuum. I know that you're strict in terms of what you can say, but maybe you tell us what can you say about the IPO?
I can't say a lot. I will leave it at that. But what I would say is that there will be a few announcements coming up soon as the team is working through various steps of its strategic journey as well as commercial journey. I'm extremely excited about the commercial progress the team has made on maturation of their technology, and they have a very strong pipeline as far as orders that's going to convert to revenue, which we're excited about. And I think right now it's the right time for them as they're maturing, growing, et cetera. It's a good time to stand up the company.
And you said publicly the $250 million of investment spend or losses that's right now in corporate expenses that deconsolidates. Is that still the case?
That's right. So right now, we're fully consolidated. At some point, we will not fully consolidate. And we will only, I would say, from an EPS standpoint, it won't change anything. But from a segment margin standpoint, it will be a tailwind for us because we will only put above the line the portion of the company that we own. It will be sub 50%. And today, it's 100%. So simple math, today, it's $250 million that goes above the line. Tomorrow, it's $125 million.
Okay. Got it. So it seems to me that when we think about the $250 million from Quantinuum going below the line, you got the $150 million of royalty income from Aero. You've got the $300 million coming in. It seems that net-net, corporate expenses come down on day 1. Is that right?
That's right. I mean, structurally, we have a lot of margin expansion. And look, the Aero trademark license is helping us with some of the inefficiencies we'll have as far as simplifying residual taxes, et cetera. And that's temporary, too, because that's -- I think that cash flow continues for about 5 years. But yes, generally, I think the corporate expenses will be much better. And more importantly, it will be cleaner. We're trying to have a cleaner income statement. And hopefully, you noticed we also removed our asbestos liabilities last year, which is a big drag for us and a tailwind going forward.
That's great. So my remaining questions are really -- you're probably going to tell me come back in June for the Investor Day. But you've got standing targets for 4% to 7% for Honeywell today. The RemainCo automation business, is that still a decent framework for organic growth going forward?
That's right. I would say it's mid-single digit. I think that's how I would position it. I think you'll see us growing more consistently on a go-forward basis. We've cleaned up the portfolio. We have diversified. We -- like I said, we restarted our NPI wheel machine, reinvesting into R&D, moving purposely into high-growth verticals. Software and services revenue is growing faster than the rest of the business. It gives us stability in the top line as well. I think what I'm most excited about is the margin expansion story for Honeywell over the next 2 years, and we'll talk about a lot during the Investor Day.
Okay. That's exciting, actually, margin expansion. So that would be the process margin normalization, IA.
IA is going to lead Process and it's going to get better mechanically, just where they are in their cycle. And then Building Automation continues to innovate and introduce really compelling NPI, which allows it to have better mix, better leverage on volume and obviously, stronger pricing.
Okay. I'm going to be keen to figure out that you're going to be pitching double-digit EPS growth for the next 2 or 3 years?
Look, you'll see on the 11th.
But I've got a question here and I need to ask these questions.
What I will say with this is that our growth will be front-loaded. I think that's kind of where the setup for us is. So I know people discount the year 3 usually. But what I'm excited about is we're instrumenting the company to perform this year and next year.
I think a really important part of the story is the way that you and Vimal have retooled the incentive structure to incentivize investment spending. Maybe just touch on that quickly because I think that's really important.
Yes. And Vimal is passionate in terms of linking pay to performance. And we're actually looking at our plans right now for 2027. He really wants to focus the team on customer obsession, and NPI. And NPI, obviously, is also a function of customer obsession. So we're working on KPIs which we will put into our performance plans for the management team that are focused on metrics that our customers care about and obviously, the Street cares about from a growth standpoint. So there's more to come to it.
But generally, in the past last few years, we pivoted as far as incentivizing more on revenue growth, and we incentivized certain teams within our engineering, offering, et cetera, around cross-sell, around NPIs they do, around offering. And we're taking a step further to put more of the organization under those plans.
And that wasn't the case before.
That wasn't the case, no.
Okay. I think one of the key changes on the Vimal has been much more M&A, much more, I don't know, progressive is the word, but certainly deploying more capital into M&A. The balance sheet for automation is in good shape with the dividend. Is that still the case going forward to be more acquisitive and maybe less buybacks?
I would say this, we'll have -- we'll continue to have a prudent capital allocation framework. And what I mean by it is that we obviously invest in growth CapEx, but generally, business is CapEx lighter, I would say, versus it used to be. Second is we'll maintain our dividend ratio, if you will, in line with our peers. We've talked about that. And then we'll maintain our, I would say, share count and offset dilution at a minimum if our free cash flow generation allows and we need to, I would like to get the outstanding shares lower, maybe 1%.
That said, all that said is, in the short term, we're focusing on debt repayment. And you will see us this year paying down a lot of debt and getting our leverage ratios down to about 3x on the gross leverage before -- at the year-end. As far as M&A, we'll continue to do M&A. Like I said, I think for us, better is bolt-on and tuck-in. And if you look at our cash profile, we should be able to comfortably do 1, maybe 2 M&As a year.
Okay. And of course, we've got the Catalyst acquisition still pending.
That's right. So that should hopefully close in the third quarter. We're quite excited about that business, has great market positioning with everything going on in the world. I think this technology has a lot of future. And this is -- we're quite excited about it.
You mentioned negotiating on the price as well, which is...
We did. I mean the business just wasn't worth what we thought the last year given where the market is. So we're able to renegotiate, and we're just waiting to close it.
It's always the case. Sometimes you buy a company and realize it's not quite worth what you thought. You don't get the low price, so that's actually well done. I think that covers it. I'm not going to touch on tariffs. I want to spend a little time talking about tariffs as possible. So Mike, I think we'll draw a line there unless there's any last questions from the audience.
We're around today, so I'm sure there'll be questions.
I'm sure there'll be. Any closing remarks, Mike?
No, thank you. Once again, thank you for coming today. We're really excited about Honeywell, both businesses, and we have some exciting news at the respective Investor Days coming up. And both companies have a really good setup, and I think are entering the second half from a position of strength.
Thanks, Mike, and good luck with the separation.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you.
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Honeywell International — Wolfe Research 19th Annual Global Transportation & Industrials Conference
Honeywell International — Wolfe Research 19th Annual Global Transportation & Industrials Conference
Honeywell bestätigt die Abspaltung zum 29. Juni; RemainCo (Automation) fokussiert auf organisches Wachstum, Margenverbesserung und gezielte Bolt‑on‑M&A.
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Spin am 29. Juni ist „grünes Licht“; Management sieht RemainCo als fokussierte Automation‑Plattform mit stabiler Nachfrage, sauberer Bilanz und klarer Margenorientierung.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Spin-Timing: Aero Analyst Day 3. Juni, RemainCo Investor Day 11. Juni; operative Trennung läuft, wenige TSAs (Transitional Services Agreements) bleiben.
- Build‑Automation: Starkes Momentum durch regionale Ausrichtung, hohe NPI‑Aktivitäten (New Product Introductions) und die vernetzte Plattform „Forge“ für Aftermarket und autonome Betriebsmodelle.
- Process & LNG: Process Automation hat rekordhohen Backlog; LNG‑Kapazitäten laut Management für ~3,5 Jahre ausgebucht, gute Sichtbarkeit für H2.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Stranded Costs: Erwartet < $300 Mio. am Day‑1, rund $100 Mio. bis Jahresende (einmalige Kosten, bereits geplant).
- Quantinuum & Kosten: Teilweise De‑Konsolidierung von Quantinuum reduziert Corporate‑Aufwand (Beispiel: $250M aktuell → künftig ~ $125M oberhalb der Linie).
- Ausblicksgläubigkeit: Management bestätigt Jahresguide und sieht positives Momentum, speziell für H2.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Mittlerer Osten: Analysten fragten zu Q2‑Headwind; Management sagt, die Region ist robuster als erwartet, Q2‑Effekt deutlich unter früherer Schätzung von $100–$150M.
- Aerospace‑Supply: Kritik an mechanischer Lieferkette (Forgings, Castings): Engpässe bei kleineren Zulieferern bremsen Engine‑Output, Recovery braucht Zeit.
- Pension & Kapital: Diskussion über Behandlung des Pensionsüberhangs (46% überfinanziert) und mögliche Monetarisierungsoptionen; konkrete Entscheidungen auf Investor Day verschoben.
📌 Bottom Line
- Relevanz: Abspaltung wirkt glaubwürdig und sollte RemainCo klarere Wachstums‑ und Margenhebel geben; Day‑1‑Bereinigung (geringere Corporate‑Kosten, reduzierte stranded costs) ist positiv für EPS‑Leistung. Risiken bleiben in Aerospace‑Lieferkette und kurzfristigen Q2‑Cyclicalities, wichtigste Near‑Term‑Katalysatoren sind die Investor Days (3./11. Juni) und der Abschluss der Catalyst‑Akquisition.
Honeywell International — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell First Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Mark Macaluso Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's First Quarter 2026 Earnings and Outlook Conference Call. On the call with me today are Honeywell Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Vimal Kapur; Honeywell Aerospace Technologies President and Chief Executive Officer, Jim Currier, and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak. This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website.
From time to time, we post new information on this website that may be of interest or material to our investors. Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world, and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including those described in our recent SEC filings. This morning, we will review our financial results for the first quarter of 2026, provide guidance for the second quarter and discuss our full year outlook. As always, we'll leave time for your questions at the end with Vimal, Mike and Jim.
With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Vimal, who will begin on Slide 3.
Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Honeywell delivered strong results in the first quarter, building on the momentum from 2025, despite a complex geopolitical backdrop and temporary mechanical supply chain constraints in Aerospace. Orders grew 7% organically on the strength of our Building and Industrial Automation segment as well as in petrochemical and refining verticals in Process segment. Including the orders growth in Aerospace, we drove backlog to over $38 billion with book-to-bill above 1.1. Sales growth was robust across Electronic Solutions and Aerospace, [indiscernible] aftermarket services in Building Automation and gas and LNG in Process Automation and Technology bolstered by our innovation and new product engine. We expanded margin 90 basis points to over 23%, driven by pricing discipline, productivity and accelerated stranded cost removal ahead of the Aerospace spin. All of this drove 11% adjusted earnings growth in the quarter, demonstrating the strength and agility of the Honeywell operating system. We also made tremendous progress on the portfolio transformation that began in 2023.
We announced the sale of our Productivity Solutions and Services and Warehouse and Workflow Solutions businesses, respectively, which we expect to close in the second half of 2026. We are also excited to announce that now we expect to complete the Honeywell Aerospace spinoff in the third quarter on June 29, marking the final step in our transformation. All of the acquisitions, divestitures, spin-off and simplification effort over the past 3 years have positioned both Aerospace and Automation for right future as independent leading industrial companies.
Despite the strong start to the year, we are taking a prudent approach to our guidance given the uncertainties surrounding the conflict in Middle East. We remain confident in our ability to drive accelerating growth in the second half as our backlog supports a pickup in growth in Process Automation and Technology. We will continue to closely monitor the situation and provide any further updates if the situation changes materially. Before we get into the details, I want to thank all our employees for their focus, commitment and dedication throughout our multiyear transformation. The future is bright as we set both businesses and gear to thrive with the right strategic focus, and capital allocation priorities that will drive value for our customers, employees and shareholders.
Let me turn to Slide 3 to discuss the progress on our portfolio transformation. As I mentioned, we are progressing on the final separation milestone with the Aerospace spinoff now expected to complete on June 29, just over 2-months away. The leadership team for both Honeywell and Honeywell Aerospace are in place and already executing for our customers today. In March, we successfully raised $20 billion of Aerospace spin financing while delivering strong investment-grade credit rating of A3, A- and BBB+ with a positive outlook from Moody's, Fitch and S&P, respectively.
Proceeds from the financing will be used primarily to redeem Honeywell debt, the majority of which has been completed as of quarter end and to fund a cash to the Aero balance sheet. Aerospace also announced a groundbreaking supplier framework agreement with the U.S. Department of War to rapidly increase the production of critical dense technology through a $500 million commitment. Honeywell was among the first tier 1 supplier to sign an agreement of its kind, and we are honored to support the U.S. and allied forces with these increased production capabilities. This agreement demonstrates the criticality of Honeywell Aerospace to national security interest and supports a multibillion-dollar revenue opportunity.
Turning to Automation. We amended an agreement to acquire Johnson Matthey'’s Catalyst Technologies business, which [ adjusts ] the total consideration and extends the date to close the deal to the end of July. We continue to believe the combination of the business with our capability in Process Technology will unlock future growth by broadening our portfolio, growing our installed base and creating a more integrated offering for our customers. As I mentioned, we announced -- we signed an agreement to sell Productivity Solutions and Services to Brady Corporation and Warehouse and Workflow business to American Industrial Partners, in two, all cash transactions. These businesses are well positioned to grow profitably under highly capable new leadership with deep industry experience. And for Honeywell, the sale allow us to further simplify our portfolio alongside the planned separation from Aerospace. Following these sales and spin, we will have a more cohesive portfolio focused on three principal end markets. [indiscernible] to share much more about our business with the investment community at our upcoming Investor Day for both Honeywell Aerospace and Automation business in June, both companies have exciting future ahead.
Before we get into the details, I want to discuss our outlook for Process Automation and Technology in light of the current Middle East conflict, let's turn to Slide 4. In quarter 1, the Middle East conflict drove a roughly 0.5% impact to revenue for all of Honeywell, most notably in Process Automation and Technology given the energy exposure and presence in the region. Clearly the situation in the Middle East is evolving rapidly, and we hope for fast resolution to the conflict. However, our guidance assumes the conflict persists through the end of the quarter and the resulting logistics and shipment delays cost a roughly 1% impact to revenue. We continue to effectively manage through this with the safety and well-being of our employee being the top priority.
Despite the conflict, demand continues to be strong for differentiated Process Technology on a global scale. We have secured over $2 billion in project wins over the past 3 quarters, including for LNG, refining and petrochemicals and sustainable aviation fuel across U.S., Brazil, Africa and Middle East. These wins include both rebuilding of the impacted facility with the key customers, including Qatar Energy LNG and new expansion projects helping further reinforce the growth outlook for PA&T, securing a long tail of high margin services and software opportunities.
Notably, in November last year, Dangote Petroleum Refinery and Petrochemicals selected Honeywell to supply advanced technology services, proprietary catalyst and equipment to help double production capacity at Africa's largest refinery in Nigeria. In addition, Dangote will license Honeywell's Oleflex Technology, which converts propane to propylene and Honeywell's Petrochemical Technology to produce linear alkylbenzene or LAB, a key ingredient in detergents for household needs. With this agreement, the customer will nearly double its production of polypropylene which supports the manufacturing of packaging materials, consumer goods and industrial products and once at full production will operate once of the world's largest LAB plants. As a follow-up of this award earlier in April, we announced that Dangote also selected Honeywell to provide Connected Services, Advanced Digital Performance Monitoring and Operator Training at the same refinery. This will help customers like Dangote improve operational performance, increase asset reliability and enhance their workforce ultimately unlocking greater value for their facility.
On LNG, we recently signed agreement to provide integrated liquified natural gas pretreatment and liquification solution for Commonwealth LNG planned export facility in Louisiana and next decade's Rio Grande LNG project in Texas through an agreement with Bechtel. We expect strength in our LNG vertical to continue given the additional projects we expect to be awarded in quarter 2. Longer term, we expect the favorable crack spreads in petrochemical and refining will generate incremental catalysts and services demand to maximize performance of our customers' plant in addition to needed repairs and modification related to rebuild. Once the conflict stabilizes, we expect the industry will benefit from pent-up demand and more stable feedstock supply, enabling better plant utilization rates.
Despite the near-term disruption Process Technology orders increased double digit, driving a 22% increase in PA&T backlog. We remain on track on expected second half ramp as LNG and large modular equipment deals convert to sales in the back half of the year, which will be followed by new catalyst demand in 2027. So while we acknowledge the challenges the business faced over the last few quarters, we are encouraged by the resiliency of orders growth and backlog, which will generate a strong runway as we progress through 2026 and into 2027. I look forward to sharing more with you during the June Investor Day.
Let me now turn to Slide 5 to talk more about Aerospace growth trajectory in 2026. We continue to see strong Aerospace demand across commercial OE, commercial aftermarket and defense space, which is driving sustained orders growth of 28% over the last 12-months, which drove roughly $19 billion Aerospace backlog, a 20% increase from the prior year and 1.1 book-to-bill in the first quarter. Against this backdrop, our mechanical supply chain over-delivered in the fourth quarter of 2025 enabling double-digit organic sales growth. However, certain critical suppliers experienced temporary constraints to start the year, which led to slowdown in January and February and lower output and sales growth. Output improved considerably in March, our highest revenue month for the quarter, making us confident that our supply chain efforts will produce better results moving forward. Given the significant amount of demand we see in Aerospace portfolio, Honeywell has invested more than $1 billion over the past 3-years into expanding the capacity and resiliency of our supply chain.
Our 2026 guidance incorporates the continuation of this elevated level of spending focused on [ on-boarding ] new suppliers, developing internal capabilities and assisting our supply partner with engineering and operation. The strategy drove double-digit output growth for 14 straight quarters prior to quarter 1, and we are confident on getting back to the trajectory in the near term. Given the progress exiting Q1, our history of recovering from supply chain constraints and continued positive demand trends, we are maintaining our Aerospace guidance of high single-digit organic sales growth for the year.
As you can see on this page, the outlook is consistent with historical linearity in the business, as we typically experience a sequential ramp throughout the year. To further support this ramp, Electronic Solution deliveries are meeting accelerating defense requirements, and we are investing in a new capacity necessary to ensure we can continue to do so. In the first quarter, Electronic Solutions sales grew double digit. With that, I will now turn the call to Mike to go through Honeywell's first quarter results and 2026 outlook in more detail on Slide 6.
Thank you, Vimal, and good morning. In the first quarter, we successfully navigated the difficult geopolitical and macroeconomic environment while exceeding expectations for both segment margin and adjusted EPS. Sales grew 2% organically, led by growth in Building Automation and Aerospace Technologies, and pricing and execution remains strong across the portfolio, fueled by new product introductions. On a segment basis, Building Automation surpassed our expectation once again in the first quarter with sales up 8% organically across both solutions and products. Sales growth was led by strong demand for new products and momentum across the high-growth data center and healthcare verticals.
On a regional basis, sales in the Middle East and India were both up double digits. Building Automation also delivered strong orders growth, up 9% with double-digit growth in projects, services and fire products. Aerospace sales grew 3% organically, with commercial demand and increasing global defense needs, supporting growth in commercial OE, commercial aftermarket and defense and space. Underlying demand remains robust. But as we discussed on the previous slide, 1Q results were adversely impacted by temporary supply chain headwinds in mechanical products. On profitability, Aerospace segment margin expanded 20 basis points from the prior year to 26.5% aided by pricing, productivity and favorable mix.
In Industrial Automation, sales were up 1% organically in the quarter. Solutions grew 7% led by robust Services demand in measurement and strong performance in Warehouse and Workload Solutions. Products declined slightly primarily in Productivity Solutions and Services, but was partially offset by continued strength in Sensing. Notably, Industrial Automation orders were up 10%, highlighted by strength in China and recovery in Europe.
Finally, Process Automation and Technology sales were down 6% organically in the first quarter. This was driven principally by timing delays in refining catalyst reloads and automation service upgrades, including impacts related to the conflict in the Middle East. Project sales were flat as elevated demand in LNG was offset by delays in process automation. However, the orders momentum continued in Process Automation and Technology with double-digit growth in Process Technology in the first quarter, following very strong order growth in the fourth quarter of 2025.
In total, Honeywell orders grew 7% organically with broad-based demand, resulting in book-to-bill above 1.1 and 15% increased backlog. On profitability, segment profit increased 6%, while segment margin expanded 90 basis points to 23.3% with margin expansion in all 4 segments. This was principally led by Industrial Automation, which expanded 260 basis points and Process Automation Technology, which expanded 200 basis points from pricing and productivity actions, a strong result in Process Automation and Technology despite the top line volatility. Adjusted earnings per share of $2.45 was up 11%, driven primarily by higher segment profit and lower share count. Foreign currency provided a modest benefit and below-the-line items were favorable primarily due to higher pension income. You'll find additional information on the first quarter adjusted EPS bridge in the appendix of our presentation.
Running out the results, we ended the quarter with nearly $100 million of free cash flow, down from $200 million last year. The benefit of higher operational income was offset by timing of collections in the Middle East and inventory headwinds in Aerospace, given the mechanical supply chain dynamics. Collections have improved meaningfully in April, and we remain confident in our full year outlook. On capital deployment, we returned $1.8 billion to shareholders through roughly $1 billion of share repurchases and $800 million of dividends while funding over $220 million in CapEx to drive future growth.
Let's now turn to Slide 7 to discuss our second quarter guidance. We anticipate second quarter organic sales growth of 2% to 4%. Aerospace should improve sequentially from first quarter, driven by ramping OE production rates and higher defense spend, supported by incremental improvements in the supply chain, while Process Automation Technology will be slightly weaker than first quarter due to incremental pressure stemming from the Middle East conflict. Both Building Automation and Industrial expect to be roughly in line with their full year outlook for these businesses. We expect segment margin to be in the range of 22.2% to 22.5%, down 10 to up 20 basis points, led by pricing and productivity actions that we expect will largely offset rising inflation and unfavorable mix in Process Automation and Technology due to timing of high-margin catalyst shipments and the impact from the Middle East.
We are also seeing an acceleration in the stranded cost takeout ahead of the Aerospace spin. On the segment level, we expect strongest margin expansion in Building Automation, while Aerospace margin will be roughly flat. Adjusted EPS is expected to be $2.40 at the midpoint, reflecting a higher effective tax rate in the quarter, amounting to about $0.16 headwind. On a normalized tax basis, EPS in the second quarter would be roughly $2.55 at the midpoint of our guidance, driven by higher segment profit and higher expected pension income.
Slide 8 provides a look at the second quarter dynamics, I just described. We expect growth from roughly $0.06 of higher segment profit, while lower below-the-line expenses will drive a similar benefit of $0.04 to $0.07 due to higher pension income, partially offset by increased repositioning costs. But the main item to note is the $0.16 headwind from a higher tax rate of approximately 21% versus 16% in the second quarter of 2025. Nevertheless, we still expect our full year tax rate to be approximately 19%. The impact from the share count reduction and foreign exchange translation will be roughly $0.01 each. Additional below-the-line details are available in the appendix of the presentation.
With that as the backdrop for the second quarter, let's turn to Slide 9 to discuss our full year outlook. We're maintaining our organic growth outlook of 3% to 6% despite the temporary headwinds we encountered in the first quarter. We expect strength to continue in Building Automation, while Industrial Automation will continue to recover in Europe and China. Process Automation Technology should be roughly flat for the year as order visibility and robust backlog levels delivered a strong second half. Finally, in Aerospace, as I mentioned earlier, our full year guide of high single-digit growth remains intact, driven by improvement in our supply chain observed in March. We expect to continue to deliver strong operational execution driven by pricing discipline, productivity actions and earlier-than-expected stranded cost takeout. In the first quarter, this allowed us to deliver strong margin performance while navigating near-term volatility related to material cost inflation, mechanical supply chain headwinds in Aerospace and impact from the Middle East conflict.
While we outperformed our expectations in the first quarter, the ongoing geopolitical situation warrants prudence. And we are, therefore, maintaining our full year segment margin guidance of 22.7% to 23.1%. Our guidance continues to include the results of PSS and WWS until the transaction close. It also assumes a continued ramp in Quantinuum investments. And while we expect to de-consolidate the results of Quantinuum in the second quarter, we are not adjusting our segment margin or adjusted EPS guidance at this time to reflect this. There is also no change to our free cash flow guidance for the year.
Let me now turn the call back over to Vimal to wrap up before Q&A.
Thanks, Mike. We are pleased with our first quarter results with segment margin and adjusted earnings per share exceeding expectations. Looking ahead, we are successfully navigating an uncertain geopolitical backdrop with the strength of our resilient business model approach and rigor of our Honeywell accelerator operating system. We are tracking ahead of schedule on our separation milestone with the Aerospace spin-off now expected to be completed on June 29. I'm very excited to be on the [indiscernible] of this formation of 2 leading pure-play public companies and witnessed a long runway of value creation both businesses will deliver. We look forward to hosting investors at our upcoming Honeywell Aerospace Investor Day on June 2 and 3 in Phoenix and our Honeywell Investor Day on June 11 in New York City. These events will provide an excellent opportunity to share our strategy and long-term growth expectation.
With that, Mark, let's take the questions.
Vimal, Mike and Jim are now available to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions]. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
2. Question Answer
[indiscernible], this is the last quarter of Honeywell as is. But I just wanted to just maybe just try and get a bit more information on the supply chain challenges, especially in such a low volume quarter. So just -- it's obviously a very popular inbound question we're getting from investors. So any more details on that? And kind of measures in place to try and solve this problem?
Nigel, this is Jim Courier. Just to give you a little bit of color and commentary around the supply chain challenges. Typical historical patterns are such that we normally have a slower start at the first of the year, particularly as we exited a very strong fourth quarter at 13% output growth for Aerospace. What I would tell you is that the start of the quarter, however, was more acute in terms of the decline versus what we had anticipated. And we recognize that this issue at the end of January and early February, and it was a very acute transitory issue specifically with some key suppliers in the mechanical space that adversely affected both our engines business and our Control Systems business.
And when I say acute, we can actually identify down to specific outlines within the portfolio that were impacted. The point being, however, is that we started to see the recovery as we deploy the resources accordingly and we started to see that recovery in the March time frame, and we're seeing that momentum carry itself over into April, which gives us the confidence in terms of our forecast that we have of mid- to high single-digit growth for the second quarter.
Okay. That's great. And then just on the 2Q margins, you're forecasting quite a step down Q-over-Q. And you talked about some of the productivity and obviously getting ahead on the stranded costs. Just wondering any more details on how to think about margins by quarter, why they'd be coming down Q-over-Q? And I think you called out Aerospace flat year-over-year. I just want to make sure that was the case.
Yes. Nigel, this is Mike. So our margin expansion framework for the year remains the same. So we talk about [ 20% to 60% ] for the year. 50 bps to 90 bps expansion operationally. We have 30 bps drag from Quantinuum. What's happening sequentially versus the first quarter, first, operationally, nothing is changing. We're doing extremely well on stranded cost takeout, that's ahead of plan. Pricing will be above 3% again. So feel good about what we're doing on pricing and the teams are progressing well.
What's happening in the second quarter sequentially, we have, I would say, a mix pressure from catalyst sales or lack of catalyst cells in the second quarter. And it also gives us a little bit of pressure year-over-year. But as you remember, last year, second quarter was our strongest quarter on catalyst sales in the year. So on total year, I don't see any pressure to what we guided. In fact, I feel more confident that we'll deliver that 20 bps to 60 bps. We just have to get through the second quarter. In Aerospace, we talked about roughly being for the year at 26%, and that's kind of where it's going to be for the year.
I'll also add that the loss of revenue we're having in Middle East is also high-margin revenue. So that just has associated margin pressure because of services software, which has impacted the most due to disruptions there. So that becomes the additional driver because it's kind of high dis-synergies associated with that.
Our next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays.
Just wanted to start off maybe with the PA&T organic sales ramp through the year. Help us understand kind of how we should be thinking about that? It sounds like you're still thinking sort of flattish for the year as a whole on organic sales, which is consistent with your prior guidance, but obviously a much tougher first half. So maybe sort of flesh out for us some of the main moving pieces and how that organic sales growth trends from here in the year? .
So essentially, I think the only change since we provided the guide has been the Middle East situation and we lost revenue, as we indicated, about 0.5% of Honeywell total revenue in Q1 and about 1% in Q2. What we feel very strongly about is our backlog in the business continues to grow. Not only we had a strong booking in Q3, Q4 of second half of last year, but also printed a very strong orders number in Q1 of this year, and trends remain very, very robust for Q2, which gives us a very high confidence of second half ramp of the revenue of high-single or PA&T segment. Therefore, it's just going to be first half is, as you've seen the actual results of Q1 and then forecast for Q2, they get offset by strong performance in the second half. So net-net, the overall year being flattish, we remain very confident on that. The backlog supports it, the historic linearity supports it. So there's not much out of the way assumptions we have made in this forecast.
And Julian, there is also just continues to be more pent-up demand for the second half. We're seeing a lot of requests from customers in the Middle East. So I'm confident this demand is coming and like Vimal said, from a backlog standpoint, we still have a lot of conversion happening sequentially that's going to happen in the second half. So quite excited about that opportunity.
And then just secondly, back to Aerospace. I just wondered if you could give us some update on what you're seeing kind of real time in the commercial aero aftermarket side of things and whether you have moderated your outlook at all for the second half or Q2 on things like flight hours or departures that type of thing? That would be helpful. And on the supply chain issue, just lastly on that, is there any help you can give us on kind of specific product types that were most affected by the supply chain issue?
Yes. So specifically, Julian, to the product type, I'm not going to provide specificity around the actual outlines themselves other than say that it was very acute and we could attribute it to a couple of outlines specifically within the Engines and Power Systems business. As it pertains to the commercial aftermarket and any implications on a full year basis, right now, we saw no impact in Q1 as a result of the conflicts, and we see negligible potential impact in Q2 that's going to be overcome-able. I think the point that I would highlight, however, is that the demand is exceptionally strong, and our growth is constrained by supply and not demand across the board, and any impacts that we see in terms of flight hours in the Commercial segment tend to have a trailing impact in the Aerospace business, as flight hours go down, we start to see as it works its way through the ecosystem, it's anywhere between a 3- to 6-month delay before we would see something within the Aerospace business.
Our next question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies.
Maybe just a follow-up on the last question. On the commercial aftermarket. Jim, any way you could delve into that a little bit more, talking about your Middle East commercial aftermarket exposure? How do we think about it on engine mix within business aviation, APUs on commercial, powered by the hour on that 3- to 6-month lag comment, where would you see the most volatility? And as a follow-up, on Aerospace margins, as we look at Q1 solid start, 26.5%. How much of an impact was the supply chain? And do we see any puts and takes from asset sales or mix in that Q1 figure?
Sheila, a couple of things I'll talk to you on the commercial side of the aftermarket, particularly out of the Middle East. Again, as I mentioned, our growth is limited by supply, and not about the demand. Now having said that, we are watching very closely fuel prices, the increase in fuel prices and how much longer they will persist across the board. But we're not seeing any related demand impacts. And power by the hour programs for us, there's a smaller revenue stream within the overall aftermarket portfolio, as compared to time and material and repair and overhaul portions of our business overall.
The one point I wanted to highlight, and you mentioned it about business aviation we've actually seen very strong resilient growth in business aviation flight activity, even in light of the higher fuel prices, and it actually grew much better than what we saw in the commercial air transport. And as you know, that is a part substantial part of our portfolio in terms of business aviation within the aftermarket and part of the overall revenue of our Honeywell Aerospace. The one thing I would also add is just on defense. So as we see the conflicts that are occurring, the two key words to remember are going to be around replenishment and sustainment, replenishment around the aspects of missiles and munitions, furthering increasing the magazine capacity that exists not only for the U.S. but for our allies abroad. And then with the usage of aircraft in theater and how we are positioned, we're continuing to see very strong demand in terms of sustainment and support of those operations.
Great. Can I just add the margin question. Can we just -- can you talk about the solid Q1 margins. How much of an impact was supply chain? Was it negative? And any positive onetime items in there?
As you know, our mechanical business, we actually -- our mix was much more favorable Electrical versus Mechanical and that produced a tailwind for us in Q1, even despite of our lower volume leverage in the quarter. Now as our output will increase throughout Q2 and be more of a mix around mechanical due to the recovery that we anticipate will occur, you'll start to see that fluctuate, and you'll start to see it being a little bit more normalized. But the focus area I would apply is full year. You do see fluctuations quarter-to-quarter, very mix dependent. But on a full year, we expect modest expansion for Honeywell Aerospace.
Our next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
Good morning, everyone. I just want to say at the outside here, I don't recall any other time in Honeywell's history where you've had more portfolio moves at one time that you've been orchestrating as well as navigating all the geopolitical issues. So the fact that you can reaffirm guidance here is impressive. I did want to understand -- I know it's early, and I appreciate that you've -- you're assuming the conflict last through the second quarter. Can you size for us what the Middle East rebuild opportunity is at this point? Maybe not just give us some dimensions and qualitative what areas you'd be active in?
Yes. First of all, Deane, thanks for your comments on portfolio transformation. I would say that with the announcement of the firm date of the Aero spin on 29th of June and completion of transactions for both businesses, which were held for sale, puts us in a position now, Honeywell will be a pure-play automation company, well positioned for its future. So I really feel good about what we have accomplished over the last 2 years.
To your question on Middle East, I would say that I see that coming up in three different phases. The first phase is obvious that the services required to get the plants up and running. That work has not yet started. The situation has normalized to a point that we are being requested for that. So there are a few facilities which got hit during this conflict. So they are still -- there's no real activity in those sites. Now after that phase is over, it probably will take -- typical plant start-ups can take 8 to 12 weeks then we really expect the refurbishment of some of the facilities, which have been impacted. The one where Honeywell equipment is there, specifically in Process Technology, we have some known issues. We are already working with the customer, and that can show us an incremental demand in second half of the year as the things become more normalized.
And finally, as the oil price remain elevated to now $100 or above, the forecast generally suggests that the supply side disruptions won't end so soon because the normalization is going to take likely much longer, which then bodes well for the overall spreads for the product for our customers, which will -- which should support the more demand for services and catalyst in the times ahead. So all in, I would say the best way to put it forward is that near-term headwinds are already reflected in our numbers. And long term, the trend suggests that it's going to be a favorable outcome for Honeywell and more broader for the process industry.
That's really helpful. And just as a follow-up on that last point on the impact of $100 oil to UOP, in particular, there's -- were pushouts of catalyst reloads. But you also said that the spreads remain favorable. So just what's the impact on UOP near term? And then as we see some normalization?
Yes. So as you saw, I just mentioned in our earlier conversation that we remain very, very convicted on the fact that we'll have PA&T Process Automation Technology, second half at high single digits. That's driven by the two facts. One is our backlog is very strong due to the 3 successive quarters of order booking and then [ Q2 ] was also looking very, very robust at this point. And then we do expect the catalyst demand favored by the favorable spreads. So all things being equal, we remain very confident of the second half performance for Process Automation Technology business due to a combination of backlog and catalyst demand coming ahead.
The only to just add that the margins will improve as well in the second half for the business, given better mix, more volume leverage and strong pricing.
Our next question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
I'm sorry to beat a dead horse on this Aerospace issue, but I just have one more follow-up on this. Like when we look across the 3 subsegments of commercial aftermarket, commercial OE and defense and space, which were impacted by the issue in the first quarter? And how should we think about the path to improvement within those 3 pieces into 2Q?
Nicole, this is Jim. It actually impacted all of 3 end market segments. When I talk about specific outlines within our Engines and Power Systems business, it was both commercial and again, very acute. It impacted both Commercial and it also impacted Defense Engine outlines. And then some of that, obviously, being that the supply base is the same for commercial and defense and that same supply base is supporting aftermarket and R&O repairs as well. Those same outlines then were affected from an R&O standpoint in terms of being able to deliver into the aftermarket, both from a defense standpoint as well as on a commercial. And again, it was highly acute and highly specific in the engines and Power Systems business. But again, the mechanicals also affected us slightly as well on our control systems business.
Got it. Okay. So the improvement into 2Q should be kind of broad-based across those 3 pieces?
That is precisely correct.
Okay. Understood. And then just on the order trends, Curious what you guys saw in the 7% organic growth if you were to kind of parse that out across your shorter cycle and longer cycle businesses? And any interesting trends throughout the quarter?
Yes. So order -- the overall orders reported are 7% growth. Orders growth was led by Industrial Automation, up 10%, which is a combination of both long and short cycle. Building Automation also had a strong quarter, 9% orders growth. Process and Automation Technology was up 3% and Aerospace was up 6%. So I would say across the board, it's broad-based strength in the orders.
On the short cycle, Nicole, I would say that specifically for Automation side, Building Automation performance remains exceptionally well. As you have seen that this is fifth or sixth successive quarter, we are printing high single-digit growth. Not only the demand remains robust. So it continues to perform well through our new product introduction and perform better than market. Industrial Automation also the demand is shaping up well. Initially, when the start of the year, we had expressed concern on demand of short cycle in China and Europe, that certainly is recovering, which is very positive for us. We'd also see short-cycle demand in U.S. I think that's where Industrial Automation business have some pockets where we have to do more recovery, but we are trending in a very right direction.
And as we have observed the Industry Automation results, I do expect that business to start performing more like low single-digit growth. Once we take out the 2 businesses which were held for sale out of our revenue forecast, I'm just saying the RemainCo business it's trending very nicely towards low single-digit [indiscernible] second half of the year. So short cycle, I would say, overall strength is favorable. On the Process market, I would say it's being clouded by the war and the disruptions, and it's just hard to separate the reality of the demand versus the disruption caused by oil prices, supply shortages, ability to do shipment. It's hard to kind of separate the facts versus reality and provide an absolute comment there.
Yes. I would just add that we're expecting short cycle to accelerate in the second quarter. It will be mid- to high single-digit growth. So we feel good about short-cycle right now.
Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
Just a question on Building Automation. Clearly, it has been one of the best businesses for you for a while. At the same time, some of your competitors, I think, seem to be sort of waking up a little bit. How do you view a competitive environment in this market in areas like fire? And how sustainable is your leader -- clearly at AHR. I mean your software presentation was fantastic. Sort of -- I understand why you feel confident that maybe just expand what is we're seeing on Building Automation? How is competitive environment developing, as I said, given that some of your competitors are waking up.
Thank you, Andrew. I mean, I would say that, look, we remain in our guide more conservative because we always [ cite ] Building Automation at mid-single-digit plus and we are performing high-single. And as I had mentioned during our Q1 earning call -- in earnings calls in earlier in the year, that we don't want to always assume we will keep taking share. but we have been constantly doing that, which is good news for Honeywell. I would say the competition by our business model is sell product through channels. We actually compete with large multinationals on a very limited basis because projects business in Building Automation is just about 15% of the overall segment. So what the headline base is, some of the peers, which are publicly reported companies, our overlap with them from a portfolio perspective is not very large.
Our competition is midsized companies, which vary by each region. We have set up companies we compete in fire and BMS and security in U.S. We have different set of people we compete in Europe, different set of people we compete in China, and that's the benefit in this business that we are benefiting from fragmentation of the market. We are going on the strength of our new products, and our common supply chain. And we believe that our organic growth engine, new product and innovation [indiscernible], including Forge is working extremely well. And the quarters are shaping quite well ahead. The near-term demand remains strong. So we do expect that the trend what you have observed over the last 4 to 5 quarters should remain intact in the times ahead.
And with the divestiture of the Warehouse Automation and Handheld Devices I mean, clearly, the Sensors business is becoming much more core and front and center. Could you just sort of parse out what you're seeing there? And what are the trends in key verticals there?
Yes, Andrew. So clearly, now Industrial Automation is positioned as a Sensing and Measurement business. I'm really pleased on finally, we found a very clear strategy in the business. I would say that our position there in three broad end market sensing, in aerospace, medical devices, industrial equipment, that's position 1. Position 2 is our metering business in utilities and position 3 is gas detection on all environments, be it oil and gas, be it semiconductor and more broader in industrial.
The end markets are strong in each one of these areas I mentioned. And our job is to benefit from these fragmented industrial automation market in Sensing and Measurement and build a better position as we did in Building Automation over the last 3 to 5 years. That's a task ahead of us. Our strategy is working. Our performance is improving every quarter progressively. And as I mentioned, that I do expect that second half gets slightly better, and we remain very optimistic on the performance for 2027.
Our next question comes from the line of Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
Yes. Vimal, can you give a little more color into the improvement you saw particularly in IA margin in Q1. The margin improvement was impressive. I know you've talked about a bigger focus on productivity and [indiscernible] ahead of separation in that segment, and in PA&T. But a bigger fixed cost take out in IA. So maybe you can update us on what you've been doing and or how much improved pricing versus cost is helping as well?
Sure, Mike, I'll start and I'll ask Vimal to add some color to it. I think IA is going to be a margin expansion driver for us for the next year or so. With the separation of the [indiscernible] businesses. We saw a lot of opportunities structurally just to simplify the business from a cost standpoint. And the team got after that cuase quite early. So you'll continue to see the benefit as we go through the year. Also pricing for us has improved. I think the team has done a really outstanding job in terms of understanding the inflation, working with the customers to manage it and improving pricing. So that's the second piece. And then finally, I would say NPI, the team has been on NPI for the last 18 months, and we're starting to see those NPI hitting the market, and that's helping us recover share where we lost share. So all around, a really good story on Industrial Automation and will continue to be a source of strength for us this year and next year.
Yes. I mean, I think the only thing I'll add would be the pricing story is very strong in Industrial Automation, but also more broad-based and across Honeywell. We signaled the pricing between 3% to 4%, and it's more trending towards upper end, more towards 4% versus 3% and how inflation is shaping up I expect that trend to persist, which is going to help us continue to expand margin expansion as we have guided. But I overall performance, I think I have nothing more to add to what Mike said.
And then, Vimal, maybe it's a little early for this question, but just focusing on some of your customer conversations as the Middle East conflict has played out here. And given your relatively big exposure now to LNG, do you sense a need for more energy security now or maybe more local-for-local investments. So maybe you have a more robust LNG cycle? Like what are your conversations like around that?
Very, very bullish on LNG cycle, I would say, Andy, the 2 businesses we acquired in the last 18 months Liquefaction business from [indiscernible] and Sundyne business, they're performing extremely well. The demand continues to remain strong by the fact we very correctly mentioned not only in U.S. there's more capacity being built to serve the known demand. There's additional capacity being asked now for diversification. [indiscernible] think about those demand being in places like Africa, which was not on the map of LNG business, but they have a lot of gas. So people are considering projects there. We have a lot of inbound requests from that part of the world. And clearly, the refurbishment will be required in Middle East to the damaged infrastructure, which will be the -- which was not a planned demand because this was not something we planned for.
So all in, the LNG Liquefaction business and our overall Honeywell LNG story in terms of automation story, our software capabilities is there, with the Sundyne having very specialized equipment for compressors and pumps for LNG, we have a very neat proposition, and it is going to remain a highlight of RemainCo Honeywell. It will remain for next few years a high-growth vertical based upon the demand I have seen over the last few months.
Our next question comes from the line of Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.
So I really like Slide 4. Obviously, it shows like how geographically diversified your project wins have been over the past year. I'm curious, as you kind of think about that high single-digit ramp in the Process side of the business. How do you -- how are you guys underwriting the potential risk to that second half implied guide?
Joe, these are very firm projects. There are -- sometimes the demand of these projects can get shifted due to FIDs happening and not happening. But in this case, the LNG backlog is very strong, in particular and some of the new demand, which have come from Africa for refining capacity, there's a natural case there to build more fuel infrastructure in Africa because it never had one, and there's a big refinery by Dangote, which is one of the largest refineries. So those are very, very firm demand, which makes us confident on a very, very limited uncertainty in our backlog. And that's why if you see our confidence factor on high single-digit growth for the overall Process segment is very high. We are not making any assumptions of unknown demand the linearity and supported by our backlog conversion is the basic fact on which we are forecasting this.
And Joe, we've been talking about it for almost a year now. We always had that backlog. The backlog improved. Those are all projects which went to FID, meaning they're invested, there is cash behind them and they're ready to go. So like Vimal said, this is a very solid backlog that's going to start converting in the third quarter.
Yes, that's great to hear. And then -- and then maybe just touching on the Building Automation business. I just came back from being a data center [indiscernible] the last couple of days. And clearly, that's a part of the business that I'm sure is growing significantly. I'm sure we're going to hear more about this in June, but maybe just help kind of highlight like how you're thinking about the potential opportunity for your business specifically as it sells into data centers?
Yes. So we continue to improve our share of demand in data centers every quarter progressively. And where we have done a great job is really moving into Tier 2 data center providers. I think there's always a lot of conversation of hyperscalers, but increasingly, Tier 2 providers are becoming very, very relevant, not only in U.S., but I'm also talking about Europe and Asia, and that's where our segment performance is very strong. So I expect that we continue to ramp up our volumes in building automation and data center, but interesting development is not Joe, that we are actively working on liquid cooling for our Sensors business because if liquid cooling trend is true, it requires more sophisticated controls compared to the traditional HVAC air-based control. And that's where Honeywell technology is going to be very, very relevant.
So our Sensing business is actively working with other liquid cooling providers, which names are well known. And we are also actively working for power generation for some of the data center, which are behind the meters. We have seen a trend where behind the meter power capacity is being set up and our traditional control and automation capability is very unique in that space, because think about it, we always did power plant within a refinery within a paper mill. That's not new for us. And now power plant happens to be in the data center, which is our natural capability. So I would say Honeywell penetration in data center now continues to improve, and we remain bullish on our revenue growth coming from the segment, not only in Building Automation, in the years ahead, it's going to help also Industrial Automation. And depending on some of the projects in the U.S., it may also help Process Automation business.
Our next question comes from the line of Amit Mehrotra with UBS.
I wanted to ask a question on on Aero. Just the cadence of growth intra-quarter. I think you mentioned it being acute in terms of challenges in January, February. But obviously, the full quarter closed out at, I think, 3%, 4% organic growth. It implies maybe the exit rate in March is back to where you expected in the second quarter. I just want to get a sense of that. If you can just give us a little bit of that intra-quarter cadence.
Yes. This is Jim. A couple of comments around that. The cadence within the quarter, I think it's important to note that 50% of the quarter is actually delivered in the third month. And therefore, the momentum that we saw and which you saw in March and carrying that momentum going forward into April, the point being is that our starting point in terms of the first month is substantially better than what we saw in the first month of the first quarter, i.e., January. So as that momentum continues and has laid itself over into April, we expect to see that continued progression throughout the quarter. And even though it's early in the quarter, and as I mentioned, 50% of the quarter is delivered in the third month, what we're seeing in terms of recovery gives us the confidence in terms of what we expect in year-over-year growth for the second quarter.
Okay. And then just on the Process Automation side, we noticed, obviously, the aftermarket was down 10% in the quarter. Projects have been relatively stable. Just wondering if you could just talk about Process Automation aftermarket trends. I assume -- I think you said that Middle East conflict, nothing really embedded in the back half. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you could talk about how that impacts the aftermarket of the Process Automation?
Yes. So most of our lost revenue was as a practical matter was aftermarket because this is where our ability to ship the product related to service migration project, lot of on-site services we provide, which are contractual, you can't just simply go there. So it got impacted incrementally by about $50 million round numbers in quarter 1, and we have forecasted about a 1% impact there. Overall, when we started the year, we had indicated the demand being very muted for services and catalyst in process thing got disrupted with a conflict, but the elevated oil price now supports strong demand on the other side of it. So we'll see how the business performs. But we think that the quarter 1 and quarter 2 were the bottom, and we should see more sequential improvement in the second half of the year in the business.
Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research Partners.
Just one question on the portfolio, but I guess, multi-part. Something wonky in your calendar you're calling June 29, Q3. I'm wondering on the PSS sale, if you could give us a little bit of color on whether or not there's tax leakage, on warehouse. I'm wondering if you could tell us what the 2025 EBITDA was? And then finally, I think you said Quantinuum would be consolidated in Q3. I guess that implies your selling a stake or there's a round that you won't participate in that will take you below 50%? Maybe you could give us a little color on that also.
There were four questions there. I'll try to see wrap up here. So I think on the tax leakage part, PSS, I'd like to let Mike talk about it.
Sure. So there won't be any tax leakage related to these two transactions. And obviously, we'll have more more to share on that as we progress and complete the transactions. But probably, you'll see it in the third quarter.
Both these transactions, Jeff, I want to look ahead and not look back. These are behind us. These businesses are in safe hand with the rightful owners, and I think we have gone through a public auction process and found the best buyers for both of them. I think that's what I can share. On Quantinuum, I'll let Mark...
Yes. I think, Jeff, not a great answer for you, but we're subject to rules restricting our ability to share really any further details beyond what you've seen in the release from Wednesday.
Okay. Understood. And then on the date, so 29 was technically the third quarter for us?
So the first day of the quarter 3, happens to be on June 29. I know I was equally surprised by [indiscernible]. Yes, I was confused for a couple of days, but now I've settled.
Our final question this morning comes from the line of Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.
Is the supply chain disruption that weighed on Aero growth in January and February, primarily a function of inability to ship because maybe some of your suppliers are struggling to keep up with the pace of demand? Or is it because your Aero customers overbuilt inventory towards the end of last year and they were effectively de-stocking early in the year?
Chris, this is Jim. It was absolutely not any de-stocking that is happening with our customer supply base. It was purely supplier-centric the lack of certain critical piece parts from high critical suppliers that did not achieve the volume outputs necessary to allow us to deliver the specific outlines within Engines and Power Systems and Control Systems portions of the business.
And then just a quick follow-up on Aero. Is there any color you could provide on back half margin expectation, just all the moving parts between the mix shift, obviously, some of the commercial OE price negotiations that you've talked about? And then maybe lastly, any sort of integration tailwinds from case just just kind of -- what do we expect there in the back half?
Yes. I mean, what I would say is, on an annualized basis, you will see us being modestly up on margin expansion. -- quarter-to-quarter, you do see variability largely driven by mix across the board and mix within the mix of what we are delivering. But on a full year basis, we'll be modestly up for Aero margins.
Okay. As always, I would like to thank all our shareholders, our customers and all the Honeywell future shapers around the world for the strong first quarter results you delivered. We remain confident in our path ahead, and we look forward to sharing more with everyone in the months to come. Thank you for joining us today, and we hope that you have a great rest of your day.
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📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatzorg.: +2% organisches Umsatzwachstum
- Orders: +7% organisch
- Backlog: > $38 Mrd. (Aerospace ~ $19 Mrd.)
- Segmentmarge: 23,3% (+90 Basispunkte YoY)
- Adjusted EPS: $2,45 (+11%)
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Portfolio: Abschluss der Aerospace-Spin-Off nun auf 29. Juni 2026 terminiert; PSS und Warehouse & Workflow Sales erwartet H2 2026
- Wachstumstreiber: Starke PA&T-Auftragslage (LNG, Raffinerie, Petrochemie) und mehr als $2 Mrd. Projektgewinne in 3 Quartalen
- Operation: >$1 Mrd. in Ausbau/Ablieferungsfähigkeit der Aerospace-Lieferkette; Pricing-, Produktivitäts- und Stranded‑Cost‑Maßnahmen
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Q2: organisches Umsatzwachstum 2–4%; Segmentmarge 22,2–22,5%; Adjusted EPS ~ $2,40 (Midpoint)
- Jahresblick: organisches Wachstum 3–6%; Aerospace bestätigt High‑single‑digit organisch; Full‑year Segmentmarge 22,7–23,1%
- Risiko: Mittlerer Osten belastete Q1 um ≈0,5% Umsatz und Q2 um ≈1% (Logistik/Shipments)
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Supply‑Chain: Ursache waren akute Engpässe bei Schlüssel‑Zulieferern (mechanische Teile); Erholung begann im März und setzte sich im April fort
- PA&T‑Risiko vs. Backlog: Analysten fragten nach Middle‑East‑Auswirkungen; Management betont solides, konvertierbares Backlog und erwartet starke zweite Jahreshälfte
- Margenpfad: Fragen zu Q‑to‑Q‑Schwankungen (Katalysatormix, Timing von Projekten); Management nennt Pricing, Produktivität und beschleunigten Stranded‑Cost‑Abbau als Treiber
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call bestätigt operative Stärke und Portfolio‑Bereinigung: Guidance bleibt erhalten trotz kurzfristiger Risiken (Middle East, temporäre Zulieferengpässe). Backlog, Margenmaßnahmen und anstehende Transaktionen schaffen Basis für beschleunigtes Wachstum und fokussierte Kapitalallokation in der zweiten Jahreshälfte.
Honeywell International — Brady Corporation, Honeywell International Inc. - M&A Call
1. Management Discussion
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Brady Corporation Acquisition Announcement Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Ann Thornton, CFO. Ma'am, please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, and thanks, everyone, for joining us. This morning, we would like to take the opportunity to explain an exciting moment for Brady, which is our announcement of our planned acquisition of Honeywell's Productivity Solutions and Services business. The slides for this morning's call are located on our website at www.bradycorp.com/investors.
Please note that during this call, we may make comments about forward-looking information. Words such as expect, will, may, believe, forecast and anticipate are just a few examples of words identifying a forward-looking statement. It's important to note that forward-looking information is subject to various risk factors and uncertainties, which could significantly impact expected results.
Risk factors were identified in our press release regarding the transaction issued today and in our investor deck, each of which are included on our website and in Brady's fiscal 2025 Form 10-K, which was filed with the SEC in September of 2025. Also, please note that this teleconference is copyrighted by Brady Corporation and may not be rebroadcast without the consent of Brady.
We will be recording this call and broadcasting it on the Internet. As such, your participation in the Q&A session will constitute your consent to being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to Brady's President and Chief Executive Officer, Russell Shaller, for some prepared remarks before opening up the floor to questions. Russell?
Thank you, Ann, and thank you all for joining us today. As you know, this morning, we announced an exciting transformative move to acquire Honeywell's Productivity Solutions and Services business or PSS. The transaction will significantly expand our portfolio with data capture and workforce solutions.
At its core, this transaction brings together 2 highly complementary organizations that are uniquely positioned to help our customers operate smarter, safer and more efficiently through our full suite of products from our highly engineered durable labels to the data powering an entire supply chain.
With the combined strengths of our business, we will be able to offer our customers a one-of-a-kind solution, a more comprehensive portfolio of hardware and software solutions across critical workflows for companies in a wide variety of industries and markets. This transaction is the culmination of our Board and management team's thoughtful and opportunistic approach to M&A that complements our existing businesses, advances our strategy and deliver significant value for our shareholders.
We remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation approach to capitalize on the highest return opportunities that fit squarely within our strategic and financial criteria. And we view this acquisition as a unique opportunity that fits within Brady incredibly well. PSS provides mobile computers, barcode scanners and printing solutions with nearly 3,000 employees globally and 2025 revenues of approximately $1.1 billion for the 12 months ending in December 31, 2025.
Importantly, PSS also shares our focus on talent with a particular expertise across R&D with deep technical knowledge and a strong record of product innovation. PSS serves some of the largest transportation, warehousing and logistics companies in the world. which expands the enterprise customer channel for Brady as well as our total addressable market with fast-growing verticals.
Geographically, approximately half of PSS' revenue is generated in the U.S. and Canada, about 1/4 from Europe and the remainder is equally split among the rest of the regions. By vertical, the largest end markets are retail, industrial, transportation and logistics with smaller positions in health care and other industries.
This is truly a fantastic complement to our existing base of business. PSS has a broad global manufacturing and distribution footprint across 40 facilities. Their global footprint unlocks cost-efficient scale while maintaining the ability to meet shifting global needs. With nearly 4,000 patents and almost 4 million service contracts, PSS is focused on the development of products and solutions that empower worker productivity for millions of frontline workers around the world in applications in which data accuracy is critical.
We believe that the addition of PSS gives the opportunity to drive incremental growth and earnings from actionable near-term investments with R&D focus and an active new customer pipeline. Nearly 70% of PSS' revenue was generated from products launched within the last 3 years, demonstrating the effectiveness of their R&D engine. This, combined with our operational efficiency, compelling secular tailwinds within the productivity solutions market and PSS' growth and margin outlook makes us confident in the value creation opportunity presented by this transaction.
I think our strategic rationale in four primary categories. First is the expansion of our portfolio into adjacent workflows to provide a more comprehensive offering for our customers. Second is the expansion of our customer base into enterprise accounts where we may not play a large role today. Third is our entry into much larger total addressable market. And fourth is creating a new platform, including high-margin recurring software revenue. When we put all this together, it translates into a compelling financial benefits that Ann will walk through in more detail.
Walking through this one by one, starting with the portfolio, we're proud of leading position in high durability, high-quality printers and our specialty adhesive materials designed to withstand the harshest environments and comply with stringent safety and regulatory standards. PSS brings mobile computing, barcode scanning, RFID and workflow software, which is an incredibly strong complement to our existing portfolio.
PSS' products and purpose built to perform reliability in high-volume operations where accuracy and uptime are critical. We'll be able to offer our customers something new and truly differentiated, a complete portfolio that takes them from printing and identification through to data capture, workflow execution and real-time operating intelligence.
Our second strategic pillar is customer expansion. PSS expands our customer base within enterprise customers. These customers provide an excellent opportunity to cultivate long-term partnerships that we fully intend to grow with an opportunity to expand wallet share as we fully integrate PSS. We're also greatly expanding our presence in new verticals through PSS' customer set, particularly retail, logistics and warehouse environments.
The third strategic pillar is our entry into much larger total addressable market. This transaction moves us into technology-enabled data capture and workflow solutions markets, which is a $9 billion productivity solutions market. The core verticals in which PSS has a strong foothold have extremely compelling secular tailwinds that we can benefit from. Think of automation, digitization and asset tracking.
Global organizations are constantly pushing for efficiencies. And in order to achieve this year in and year out, they need high-quality products that are easy to use and most importantly, that allow employees to do their jobs accurately. This is exactly where PSS products success. To take one example within retail, which is PSS' largest vertical, retailers have done dozens of touch points with a single customer from in-store assistance and checkout to inventory management, customer service, picking orders and packaging and shipping.
Large global retailers can require tens of thousands of devices to serve high volume of customers, improve customer service and increase dollars per transaction. The same concept applies to logistics applications, health care environments and many others. Our fourth strategic point, we're creating a new platform of high-margin recurring revenue and software service and voice penetration.
PSS generates over $200 million in recurring software service and voice revenue today, which is meaningful. PSS' installed base is significant with over 3 million devices with active service contracts and millions more deployed. Product has a 3- to 5-year refresh cycle, which drives repeat demand with an opportunity to add service contracts as well.
We see an opportunity to lever PSS life cycle service, software and voice opportunities across our existing platform of high-performance products. Overall, we see a compelling story that should immediately result in financial upside with increased recurring revenue. Now I'll hand it over to Ann to provide additional details on the financials. Ann?
Thanks, Russell. This exciting transaction represents an important next step to grow the earnings power of Brady and to provide attractive opportunities to grow revenue in the future. We expect the acquisition of PSS to be double-digit accretive to adjusted diluted EPS within the first year following close.
This will allow us to maintain balance sheet flexibility as well as our disciplined capital allocation approach, both of which are core to Brady's fundamentals. We expect to achieve a minimum of $25 million in annual run rate cost synergies within 3 years of closing the acquisition through primarily improved operational efficiency. Over time, we expect that these synergies and other scale benefits such as commercial execution and manufacturing efficiencies will ensure that our margin profile remains within our historical levels. While we will see a short-term dip in EBITDA margins upon closing, we fully expect to bring that back up to our historic levels within 2 years post close.
Operational excellence has been a priority for us for years, and you can see this in our financial results. We've improved our gross profit margin to above 50% despite the impact of incremental tariffs compared to last year. We've reduced SG&A as a percentage of sales while increasing our investment in research and development from just over 3% of sales several years ago to more than 5% of sales as of last year.
All of this in combination has resulted in 5 straight years of record adjusted diluted earnings per share starting in fiscal year 2021 through fiscal year 2025. And finally, we always focus on cash generation and cash-based decision-making. You can see this through our cash generation often being in excess of our net income, along with our incredibly strong balance sheet, all of which gives us the ability to capture opportunities like the acquisition of PSS.
In terms of transaction financing, it will be funded with cash on hand and new debt. This acquisition is expected to increase our net debt-to-EBITDA ratio to approximately 2.5x at close, and we expect that our pro forma revenues and cash flow will support rapid deleveraging to below 2x EBITDA within 2 years post close. While we will immediately prioritize debt reduction, we believe that we will have ample capital on our balance sheet to maintain our robust shareholder return programs, including the increase in our annual dividend and opportunistic share repurchases, while always investing in our organic business.
As we think about transaction next steps, we anticipate completing the transaction in the second half of calendar year 2026, subject to regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions. We believe the compelling deal economics of the transaction will result in long-term shareholder value and enable profitable growth into the future, and we're looking forward to bringing PSS into Brady. With that, we'd like to turn it over for Q&A. Operator, would you please provide instructions to our listeners?
[Operator Instructions] Our first question is going to come from the line of Keith Housum with Northcoast Research.
2. Question Answer
Ann, Russell, congratulations on a massive deal and it's definitely a game changer for you guys. Help me understand in terms of looking at Honeywell. Honeywell has actually been declining in market share and revenue over the past 5, maybe 10 years. What are your thoughts in terms of how you're going to be able to turn that around in this organization?
Yes. So we obviously spent a great deal of time looking at the business and looking at where they were strong and how it would best fit into Brady. So first, I would probably correct what you said. They haven't been declining for quite that long. And there are definitely some strong pockets and there's some weaker pockets. But if you look at their business, their mobile computer business is actually doing very well as are their enterprise and other customers. That traditionally is an area that Brady has no expertise. So the part of the business that is doing well will continue to do that -- will continue to perform.
The part where we think we are best able to help them is in the printers and some of the [indiscernible] areas, where we know we've got a very strong position, not necessarily all Honeywell's customers. But if you look at this and you look at their struggles with, I think the small and medium-sized businesses, which is actually a tremendous strength of Brady. I think putting the 2 businesses together makes a lot of sense and really will turn their trajectory with us.
And Russell, if I can ask a few more here. You hit the nail on the head. My understanding is their channel program efforts have been really lacking over the past several years. And I'm not sure how deep Brady is into the channel, but any thoughts -- and maybe it's premature, but any thoughts on how you guys are going to try to address some of the channel relationships that they have and how you can perhaps support them to grow more?
Well, I think -- I'm not going to get into details at this juncture because we don't actually own them. But I think we're going to bring a level of stability to their business that they probably haven't enjoyed in the past. As you're well aware, Brady has had very consistent and methodical performance for the last decade. And we're not the flavor of the month or whatever, but we can pretty much consistently expand market share and expand operating margins as we've done for year. We're looking to bring that same set of discipline to Honeywell.
In terms of their R&D efforts, is it anticipated that you're going to have to increase their spending on R&D? Or are you satisfied with the level they're currently at?
I'm satisfied with where they're going to be by the end of the year. So they went through a period of R&D reduction that was pretty significant. I think they even realized that, that was too big of a cut. And so they've been building back R&D over the last couple of years, still not quite where it needs to be. But again, this is where you're going to get the dovetail of Brady and Honeywell.
We have a pretty significant portfolio of RFID products, we've done some things in machine vision and optics that we believe will be complementary. And then, of course, our printers will build out their portfolio in better shape. So those things we think are additive and so we'll be able to redeploy some of the R&D resources into different areas. So I do think the combination of Brady's R&D team and Honeywell's R&D team, which will now be roughly a $200 million spend will get us where we want to go.
And then maybe if I can get one more. In terms of the cultures of the two companies, perhaps can you talk about how the cultures they are and any thoughts in terms of how you're going to merge those together?
Yes. I think, Brady, I would say one of our outside people called us scrapping. And I think that's a fair characterization. We're quick to make decisions. You don't have a lot of bureaucracy. We are definitely going to be bringing that to Honeywell. I think that will be a pleasant surprise to some. It will probably be confusing to others. But our ability to make decisions at very low levels, I think, is a tremendous strength to Brady and something that we expect to translate into Honeywell.
And then maybe if I get one for Ann. Ann, you think double-digit accretive to Brady's earnings. Can you give us a little bit more context? Are we thinking 12%, are we thinking 40%? I mean any idea that we can kind of conceptualize that?
Yes. I mean it partially does, it will depend on when we do actually close. And I fully recognize second half of the fiscal year is broad. It's -- we just would expect in the more likely kind of third calendar quarter, but we'll see how things go. But beyond that, with the multiple that we're buying the business at and financing it with all cash, the incremental number will depend on a number of factors. But we do expect it to be meaningful, double digit for sure. And we'll give more specifics as we get closer to closing. But I appreciate that question, Keith, but it will be immediately accretive.
Our next question will come from the line of Steve Ferazani with Sidoti.
I just want to follow up the last question, Ann, in terms of the double-digit accretive. What kind of assumptions are you building in for financing? It's a pretty large transaction. You're going to be over 2.5x. I'm assuming not as attractive financing as you're used to? Or what are you building in there?
Yes. We're building in -- basically, I mean, you can kind of follow our EBITDA multiple. We'll still be in that mid-2x range and expect financing, at least our initial indication to be still decently favorable to Brady, not at the low levels that we're currently enjoying with our minimal amount of borrowing. But we expect -- we still expect basically favorable outcome from our financing. I'll be able to share more once we actually do get to that point and get closer to close, we'll absolutely provide a lot more color on that.
The $25 million in synergies over 3 years, that seems kind of low for a deal this size. Can you talk about where you think you'll realize it and what you're not including in that number? Because I would imagine there's other opportunities.
Yes. I think there is, but we wanted to be conservative. There is not a tremendous amount of overlap between our organizations. And this deal stands on itself with minimal synergies. We think we can get far more. In fact, we have very little baked in, in terms of those synergies and cross-selling, which we know money is there. But as we get through this -- and remember, this is a carve-out of a very large parent. So there's a lot of moving pieces, and we didn't want to, I guess, stick our neck out too far in the first year or 2 of the transaction, which I think is consistent with Brady. We've been a very conservative company, and we try to achieve or exceed what we say we're going to do.
Can you talk about the competitive landscape you're entering here?
Yes. So obviously, Zebra, and to a lesser extent, Datalogic. If you look at the small Chinese competitors of which there are numerous ones, they don't really compete with Brady or Honeywell or Zebra at the larger level. If you're going to buy 2 readers or 2 scanners or a printer, yes, there's a lot of different options that you might have. But if you're going to buy something for a retail environment where you have dozens of stores that you need to worry about data security and a host of other support issues, it really comes down to the three of us. So it would be Honeywell, Zebra and Datalogic, which is definitely stronger in Europe than in the United States. And then once you get past that, there really is very little competition.
Got it. That's helpful. I know it's a little early for this question, but given this is -- you've been through a multiyear, transformative might be a little strong, but it's certainly coming close to being transformative where Brady is going. When you start looking at your overall business, clearly, this transaction is going to take a lot of your attention. Do you start looking at pruning some of your other businesses or product lines that are not growing or are lower margin? Does this precipitate that?
Yes, I think -- I think everything is potentially on the table. Some of those businesses, though, are very, very steady and actually have a great return on invested capital. So some of those businesses that I think people would look at and say, why are you doing that? You know, we're getting mid- high double digits return on invested capital because we invest very little in them for the amount of cash they generate. So while anything is possible, we definitely like the stability and the profile of the cash those businesses generate.
And over the last few years, we've deemphasized investments and actually have now got disposed of 2 underlying businesses. So at this point, everything in our portfolio makes money. It's not a management distraction. We have a very decentralized organization with individual general managers running a host of these businesses. So I'm going to say possible, but we're not looking to do that immediately. All of our focus right now is going to be on integrating Honeywell and making sure that we hit the ground running once they get to become part of Brady.
Last one for me. I guess based on the timing of this deal probably doesn't impact your fiscal year, but are you expecting any changes to your fiscal guidance? Are you still comfortable with it?
Yes, we're still comfortable with it. There is obviously a onetime fees associated with the deals that were -- that happened in the quarter, but it's -- they're onetimers and not big scheme of things.
And I'm showing no further questions at this time. And I would like to hand the conference back over to Russell Shaller for closing remarks.
Okay. I'd like to leave you all with a few closing remarks. This is an exciting time for Brady. PSS allows us to expand our portfolio into adjacent workflows, which provides a more comprehensive offering for our customers. It expands our customer base into both enterprise accounts and much larger total addressable market and it creates a new platform, which includes high-margin recurring software revenue.
I'm incredibly excited about this opportunity. The PSS business has an incredible product portfolio, a talented R&D team with deep technical expertise and critical sales and support functions who know their business extremely well. We're looking forward to bringing the PSS and Brady businesses together. We have a bright future ahead of us with a significant opportunity to drive long-term shareholder value. Thank you for your time this morning. Operator, you may disconnect the call.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
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Honeywell International — Brady Corporation, Honeywell International Inc. - M&A Call
Honeywell International — Brady Corporation, Honeywell International Inc. - M&A Call
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernbotschaft: Brady hat die geplante Übernahme von Honeywell's Productivity Solutions and Services (PSS) angekündigt – ein Portfolio‑Zukauf für Datenerfassung, mobile Computer, Scanner und Workflow‑Software. PSS: ~3.000 Mitarbeiter, ~$1,1 Mrd. Umsatz (12 Monate bis 31.12.2025) und >$200 Mio. wiederkehrende Software-/Service‑Umsätze. Transaktion soll im H2 2026 schließen; Brady erwartet sofortige zweistellige Bereinigung beim verwässerten EPS.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Produkt‑Fit: Kombination aus Bradys Hochleistungsdruckern und Spezialmaterialien mit PSS‑Mobilcomputern, Barcode‑Scannern, RFID und Workflow‑Software schafft komplettes Identification‑to‑data‑capture‑Portfolio.
- Kunden & Märkte: Starker Zugang zu Enterprise‑Accounts sowie Ausbau in Retail, Logistik und Lager; erhöhtes Total Addressable Market durch technologiegetriebene Lösungen.
- Recurring‑Plattform: >3 Mio. Geräte mit aktiven Serviceverträgen, 3–5‑Jahres‑Refresh‑Zyklus und signifikantes Upsell‑Potenzial in Services/Software.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Konkrete Zahlen: PSS betreibt ~40 Fertigungs-/Distributionsstandorte, fast 4.000 Patente; Brady plant mindestens $25 Mio. jährliche Run‑Rate‑Synergien innerhalb 3 Jahren; Net‑Debt/EBITDA wird bei Closing ~2,5x erwartet, Ziel: <2x binnen ~2 Jahren.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Integrations‑/Turnaround: Analysten fragten nach PSS' rückläufigen Bereichen und Channel‑Problemen; Management sieht Stabilitätspotenzial in Enterprise‑Segments und will Bradys Disziplin einbringen.
- Synergien & Finanzen: $25M Synergie‑Annäherung wirkt konservativ; Management bestätigt Upside, gibt aber aus Vorsicht nur begrenzte Anfangsbewertungen; Finanzierung über Barbestand + neues Fremdkapital.
- R&D & Kultur: Fragen zu F&E‑Spend und Kulturintegration; Brady will kombinierte R&D‑Kapazität (~$200M) nutzen und schnellere Entscheidungswege etablieren.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Beurteilung: Deal verwandelt Brady in einen breiter aufgestellten Hardware‑und‑Software‑Anbieter mit spürbarem recurring‑Revenue‑Anteil und Enterprise‑Zugang. Kurzfristig erhöht sich die Verschuldung und Margen können temporär leiden; mittelfristig erwartet Brady EPS‑Wachstum bei erfolgreicher Integration. Hauptrisiken: Ausführung, regulatorische Genehmigungen und Realisierung zusätzlicher Synergien.
Honeywell International — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
All right. We'll kick off the fireside chat session here with Mike Stepniak, CFO of Honeywell as well as Mark Macaluso, who's back and running Investor Relations.
So let's just maybe start with some opening comments on -- I know you guys have a bit of Middle East exposure, but what are you kind of seeing out there in this fluid environment in the near term with everything that's going on in the world? We'll start with that.
So Middle East is obviously very fluid, but maybe I'll just start with that and make a small clarification based on some comments and write-ups I saw earlier today. So our annual revenue, if you think about Honeywell's annual revenue, high single digit of our annual revenue comes from Middle East on average.
With that said, given what's happening in Iran, we do not see any impact to us right now for the quarter or for the year. So there are some shipment delays, et cetera, but they're are minimal, about $20 million to $30 million of top line revenue pressure for the quarter, and the team is going to figure out, obviously, we offset it within our overall cost structure and framework as we have contingencies, et cetera. So right now, we don't see any impact from Iran conflict and what's going on in the Middle East.
Could you just talk about the various angles of attack from this issue, whether it's what happens if oil price stays higher for longer, aero traffic, like just maybe the variables at play here that you guys are watching more closely with all the various, I mean, knock-on impacts?
Sure. So I would say if oil prices stay higher for longer, that means that there will be more investment. Our customers will have more money, more investment. I think you'll see more investment in refining, more investment in catalysts, et cetera, as the spreads getting better and the pricing gets better.
On the other hand, you have to watch inflation because inflation will rise, and that's really where you have to have good pricing discipline. As far as traffic and hours, et cetera, we don't see a slowdown right now in -- due to Middle East. And Jim is going to talk about it in a while. But right now, everything is still intact. So if this conflict doesn't last for much longer, I think we'll -- will be a good outcome overall for the industry.
And as far as the other businesses, I guess, heading into the beginning of the quarter pre what's happening over there, what are you guys seeing on the ground in the other businesses or just in general from a macro perspective?
Sure. So I would say a lot of moving parts. But net-net, things are the way we plan them to be. So I'll just talk maybe through our segments. Building Automation is performing extremely well. Orders are strong across the board. All our regions last year in Building Automation grew. That seems to be -- continue to be a trend this year as well.
Overall, our orders for total business while automation were about 5% quarter-to-date, and March tends to be strong for us. And I think the orders will be mid-single digits. PT will have another quarter with double-digit orders growth. I think there are a couple of big projects that we're working that will close out.
So they're continuing to be building backlog, and we're just waiting for the backlog to start converting, and we see line of sight to -- for that backlog to start converting in the second half of the year. So we'll see about $100 million of incremental revenue coming on the back of those orders they had in the fourth quarter and early this year.
So orders remain pretty strong in that kind of a positive aspect of second half of '25.
Quarter-to-date, orders grow 5% on the 3-month rolling, high single-digit growth.
So high single-digit growth on a 3-month rolling basis.
Yes, so which includes strong December. So we don't see any deceleration. Pricing is good. Demand is good. I heard -- I listened to Delta talking this morning, their demand is still very strong. So I think right now, our end markets and macros are holding pretty well.
And when you think about kind of how this year is going to play out, you talked about the second half -- or is this kind of a -- I know normal seasonality is tough to call these days given what's happened in the last several years. But is the trend from 2Q into the second half, is that a normal seasonal trend, putting Iran aside? Or is that what you were seeing and thinking about as far as the trajectory of the year?
So just remind everybody on our framework and the guide for the year. So we guided 3% to 6% top line for the year. We guided 20 to 60 bps margin expansion and 6% to 9% EPS growth. I'm extremely confident in us achieving that guide.
What's happening right now is Building Automation will continue to perform strong. Industrial Automation is starting to grow in the second half, I see them starting to grow. They're getting much more focused and PA machines starting to work. We talked about PT and PA. They're starting to have some backlog and the backlog is converting into second half.
So if you look about seasonality, we see much stronger, I would say, tailwinds in the second half for our automation business. And on Aerospace, Jim will talk about it, but I think they're extremely confident in their total year guide as well. But as you know, with our supply chain, things are -- things tend to be choppy, and it's hard to kind of hit everything quarter-to-quarter.
Okay. Just digging back into the BA side, the growth there has been pretty strong. Maybe you could talk about whether it's the technologies that you're bringing to bear or the verticals. It's obviously a much more global business than maybe some of the building business that we think about here in the U.S. with U.S. nonresi exposure. So maybe what's driving growth there and talk about the macros?
We're seeing strength in Building Automation across the board. So regionally, if you -- this is a business that's most, I would say, global for us. Last year, we saw growth in every geography, including China. The team spent a lot of effort over the last couple of years pivoting to higher growth verticals.
So if you think about data centers, hospitality, health care, these verticals are about 20% of our revenue, and they're growing at 2.5, 3x rest of the business. So that's helping to the growth. And then NPI. NPI is really a big differentiator for the team, which that includes Forge, Forge cognition, connected. Our fire business last year alone had over 30 NPIs. Most of them based on Forge platform. And we're seeing that annual recurring revenue, software services being a bigger part of the business.
So I think the team is doing something exceptional there. And you met with Suresh and Billal a few weeks ago. So I'm quite confident that we're something special here in this business will continue to grow this mid-single to high single-digit growth over the next few years.
Maybe talk about what you're doing there and how it's been so successful, how you're kind of leveraging the R&D and the innovation on the product side and how you're able to bring that globally because it is a global business, I believe that's the way it's structured.
That's right. So we -- it really started with channels, if you will. So our solutions are helping our channels deal with most common industry problems, predominantly lack of workforce, lack of skilled labor, et cetera. So our products focus on self-testing, self-diagnosis, faster commissioning, better predictable failure mode spotting, if you will.
So when our channel partners go to the site and there's a problem in the building, they can already diagnose it before they go to the site, use fewer people, get the first attempt fixed and 100% yield through.
And just geographically, where are you seeing -- where are you having the most success with this innovation?
North America is extremely strong. If you think about hospitality, people are asking where are the most hotels being built. We're actually in U.S. Middle East has been strong. Asia, Australia. And like we talked earlier over the last year, Europe is starting to come back for us as well. So we're seeing some tailwinds in Europe as well.
Maybe just talk about your data center exposure here. I know it's not huge, but what you guys are doing there. I'm sure that's a growth driver, albeit from a low base.
Sure. So our data center business was 3 years ago, it was about 0% of our revenue. Today, it's about 5% of our revenue in Building Automation, and it continues to scale. We spend a lot of time with hyperscalers on updating our offering, getting into really security, safety, energy storage, fire protection modes, et cetera. So this business will continue to grow for us really nicely. But like I said, it's only about 5% of our business right now.
Right. And then just lastly, Forge on the building front, we saw the AHR Expo, it's pretty impressive what you guys are doing there, the connected assets. Maybe just the business model is always tough for us to chew on. How are you looking at that as the driving actual revenue business? What's the outcome of Forge from a financial perspective?
It's really about first connecting the installed base. If you think about our Forge platform, last year alone, we connected more buildings than we connected for the last 5 years prior to 2025. And we're still only about 10% connected. So we're focusing on -- first on connections and Suresh and the team have a really good, I would say, playbook as far as getting these assets connected.
Once you get them connected, that's where you really start deploying your ontology, which essentially just understanding how the assets perform based on asset class. Obviously, hospital building behaves very different than a hotel or a school, et cetera. So we have over 300, I would say, ontology models, which we're deploying for our customers to help them run these buildings more efficiently, more secure, et cetera.
And then it really comes to pricing in terms of how you value price. And historical model for us was really pricing by connection. That's I think that's where how you start the business. But now we're moving into value sharing, taking -- participating in the productivity and really leveraging the decoupled growth. So it's a business model that's quite similar to Aerospace model and RMUs. It behaves very similarly, but it's all about getting that asset base connected and penetrated from a services and ARR standpoint.
And this is a lot of where AI is coming into play. Maybe talk about how you've leveraged what you've done in the last several years in building that capability. And then maybe a little bit on why -- how you see it as -- what the moat is relative to development challenges.
AI is really the applications are built on Forge. Forge is just a platform where all this comes together, but we're building applications where we're co-innovating with customers to build these models to help run the operations more efficiently. And that's really what AI is.
And these buildings you want them to be self-learning, if you will. So that's what we focus on. And moving -- I think if you think about AI, Building Automation is furthest ahead of us, furthest ahead from our portfolio standpoint as far as moving into full autonomy, moving away from automation to full autonomy and having buildings run autonomously. In Industrial Automation, in PT and PA, we still have a lot of work to do, but that's really what's exciting about the business.
And then just taking a step back, just to tie up the loop here. On the growth verticals, how big do you see those growth verticals? How big are those?
So the growth verticals are about 20% of our portfolio in Building Automation. We'd like them to be 25% to 30%, and that's what we're working on. We also are focusing on services and ARR. So right now, our services ARR is about 40% of our revenue, then we would like it to be 60%. And that's something that -- if you think about, and we'll talk about it during our Investor Day, that's something that we will move towards over the next few years.
So clearly, BA kind of leading the way on growth, mid- to high single-digit, $7 billion business, a pretty significant percentage of your portfolio. Maybe just moving to the other large business, PAT. You talked about some of the second half, the wins and the orders flowing through in the second half. Maybe what are you seeing on the verticals there, LNG and some of the other core businesses within HPS and UOP from an end market perspective?
Sure. So first, I would say we've been supplementing our current business model in UOP with diversifying to other aspects of energy stocks, specifically around LNG and then Sundyne, which is more for us an aftermarket play. Last year, in LNG, we booked about $700 million of orders, $500 million of those orders in the fourth quarter alone. So our LNG business now is essentially sold out for the next 2.5 years, and we have more demand. So we feel really good about the LNG business.
How big could that be at some point, LNG for you guys?
It could be...
On an annual basis.
It could be well over $1 billion. It's really just a matter of having capacity and building that capacity thoughtfully. You don't want to overbuild capacity and then in the event of a downturn, be stuck with a bunch of under absorption. So that's something that we're monitoring.
On UOP, I would say we're seeing a lot of orders also in the projects that we talked about. So the backlog is extremely strong. Now the question is when these projects start to convert into revenue. And we have a good line of sight to the second half of this year where we'll start generating revenue for our projects. I would say catalysts, there's still a lot of overcapacity in catalyst because of, one, the oil prices, feed prices and the spreads were not attractive. I think with everything that's going on in the world, those spreads are starting to become attractive and that overcapacity industry is -- I can -- I get a sense is burning off. So I...
Capacity at the end user not in the catalyst or in the catalyst industry.
In the petro...
Yes, yes, in the end user, yes.
End user side. Correct. So it's a really good setup for the business. And on PA side, I would say it's predominantly PA from us is predominantly OpEx. The projects business is growing in MMM, life sciences, utilities, also LNG, traditional core energy is, I would say, still depressed, but that business should be a mid-single-digit grower for us in the second half as well.
So mid-single-digit run rate for the segment in the second half heading into next year? Is that the way to look at it?
Look, I mean, we're being, I would say, prudent. We're not assuming in our guide a lot of improvement in P&T, but the orders would indicate, assuming no significant disruptions in geopolitics that the market is coming back.
So a little bit of upside potential for second half relative to guide?
Maybe I wouldn't want to commit to it yet because a lot of things can change, but the backlog is strong.
But I guess longer term, if we think about what the growth drivers are here, what is the long-term algo? I mean, obviously, we think about these downstream oil and gas end markets as being relatively low growth. Can this be a GDP business? Can you have enough technology here to be GDP plus?
So if you think about how we diversify the business and if you think about us getting into LNG, us picking up Johnson Matthey, us picking up Sundyne, which has a strong play in the aftermarket, we're diversifying the business. And our aim is for the business to be a mid-single-digit grower through the cycle and less volatile. Great portfolio, as you know, #1, #2 products in many of the markets. So we're actually quite excited about that business.
And I guess from a regional perspective, what should we be watching outside of obviously what's happening in the Middle East? What are the -- what are the big hotspots for?
So generally, what we've seen is Europe to be slow. Now that said, if you think about Latin America, if you think about Mexico, if you think about Brazil, so Pemex, Petrobras, huge opportunities for us. Customers are investing. Venezuela, we have over 400 assets in Venezuela. That's -- but short term, it's not going to grow, I don't think. It's really more of a 3-, 4-year type of cycle. And -- but we're cooperating and working with some of our customers like Chevron to assess the situation and be ready to invest in that market if the background allows it. Meta continues to be strong. We see a lot of activity in Africa as well. And China for us is doing a little bit better than it did last year. So we see a lot of growth and green shoots, if you will, but we just have to be patient.
I think there were some growth businesses here you guys had. There were some -- I don't know, like a $1 billion of orders or something you guys used to talk about. Is there still this pocket of growth businesses, whether it was like the plastics recycling or any kind of the new technologies that we're watching? Because I feel like we're back to now talking about the core of the traditional business.
Yes. So the new technologies are down right now. We'll continue to invest in R&D and NPI. We're quite confident that these markets will come back, but that's more for us a 2028 event based on everything we're seeing.
Okay. So a bit further out into the future.
What's offsetting it is really LNG right now.
Okay. If -- let's just pretend that the war in the Middle East ends pretty quickly. There is some supply coming from Venezuela, oil price goes down quite a bit. Is that a positive for you guys because you're going to see more -- a bit more activity and volume? Or is that a negative because that will have an impact on spreads? How do we kind of look at a normalization? What's the right price of oil for you guys, do you think that you're comfortable with for that business?
I would say $70 plus. Okay. So if the oil stays above $70, the spread should be good enough for our customers start investing in it again. And time is on our side because these short-cycle catalysts, et cetera, they have a shelf life and then deteriorate. So if demand -- generally, the industry demand improves, then customers will need to be load, and that's obviously good for us.
And then I know this is a little bit of an area where you have software. You guys were kind of a leader in software and HPS. How do you see that business? And any -- I kind of have to ask any threats from AI there? I mean I think it's very highly mission-critical and domain expertise driven, but anything on the software side there and HPS?
We're quite bullish about that business. So that business is about $900 million, approaching $1 billion. It's predominantly ARR, and it's growing at the high single to double-digit growth. So it's a great business. It's very CapEx light. And we have a tremendous installed base and tremendous products. And we're -- like I said earlier, we are moving away from traditional energy into MMM, life sciences, utilities, and that transition is working quite well for us.
And you guys have in HPS historically not had a strong position in field devices. Is that something that maybe is with a fresh look as a new company could be interesting? Or you kind of want to focus on the core in HPS?
Right now, we're focusing on the core. We think that what we have as far as our play on software and the software strategy, that's the way to grow and continue to penetrate our installed base. We still haven't penetrated our installed base as far as aftermarket and decoupled growth. So that's really the strategy. We're embarking on right now, similar to what we've done over the last few years in Building Automation.
Okay. And then one last one, just on Matthey. I know that acquisition, they had -- you guys kind of repriced that. Any -- what's kind of the financial update there? And what kind of impact will that have this year?
So I'm targeting August close, assuming we get for all the regulatory approvals, things are progressing well. That price adjustment you saw there just reflects the state of the catalyst business in general industry and how the business performed. But like I said earlier, we like this business for a strategic fit to Honeywell and to our PT business. And this is a long-term play, not something that we're expecting to get a return on day 1, given where the industry is right now. But great technologies, great team, and I look forward to having in the portfolio.
Okay. On IA, obviously, the smaller of the 3, I think roughly $4 billion. Maybe just talk about what's left in there and how you view the drivers going forward? Obviously, to me, this segment probably will evolve over the next couple of years perhaps.
It will. Actually, that's the business I'm most excited about as far as the margin expansion and how it's going to contribute to the portfolio. With TLW coming out, what you will have left is really mission-critical applications in measurement and sensing. And that's a business that we know extremely well. It's highly fragmented, critical products, very high cost of failure, customers who are willing to pay price for performance.
And we have a management team, specifically Pete Lau that joined us recently, who knows very well how to run this business. Pete ran fire business for us 2 years back, and we're deploying very similar play on that side. We'll -- probably if you look at the portfolio, that's one business where we would like to do some M&A, but we will be selective and we'll be patient.
We -- vis-a-vis our last 7 transactions, we feel bolt-ons and tuck-ins are the best approach for us. That allows us then to plug in businesses that are accretive to growth in the right verticals, if you will, accretive to underlying business margin. And we're looking for businesses that we can actually, from a strategy standpoint, absorb into the portfolio.
So you think about the strategy of creating installed base and mining installed base, that's something that we want to do. So we'll be patient, but definitely, that's the -- that we focus. I would just add that in the short term, I'm personally focused on paying down debt of the company and get our leverage ratio below 3 by the end of this year and then 2.5 on a longer-term basis.
That's on a -- on a gross basis. And just remind us where you're going to come out on day 1 of the RemainCo on gross and net?
Sure. On -- we'll come out somewhere around 3.7, 3.5 on gross. I think 2, 2.5 on net. And obviously, we'll take it down from there.
Right. Just stepping back to IA for a second. Just talk about how you look at the -- I think there's now maybe 3 pieces of the business left. I know your segment reporting is a little bit different than that, but I think you talked about it as sensing, maybe sensing and measurement, maybe those are the 2 -- how should we think about the 2?
Industrial measurements and control and smart energy. That's really in thermal solutions. So kind of that's the -- those are the big businesses. And what Pete is really focusing on is self-help story. So that business is for us in the short term, it's about better execution. So better pricing execution and say do as far as managing discounting, the business has a lot of channel go-to-market where we need to do better as far as pricing discipline.
Better supply chain execution. Post COVID, we just took our eye off that. So we're working on that. Strong NPI. We grew NPI investment in our business, this business last year, about 10%. We're adding about incremental 6% this year. So -- and we're starting to see the benefits of it. And then focus on growth verticals and migrating to growth verticals. So I will be quite disappointed if this business is not mid-single grower second half of next year.
Second half of next year?
Next year, you think about NPI, NPI cycle in this business is 18 months. It's one thing to engineer the product and get it to the market, but then you also need to get it certified. Majority of our products in this industry, just like in Building Automation, they have to be either specified or certified. Ultimately, that process takes 9 to 12 months for most of the NPI.
So it's really low singles. It can still grow in the near term, but low singles and then you kind of...
It will be flattish in the first half. We have some tough comps in the second quarter, both in IA and PT. But post that, it starts inflecting in the second half of this year. And like I said, everything we're doing should -- we should be mid-single-digit grower next year in the second half.
Okay. And again, just remind us of what's in there. So it's the metering business, it's the sensors.
Sensors, smart energy.
Smart energy. And so on that front, are there any platforms here that you're looking at versus others? Is there a kind of a diversity of opportunity that's outside these platforms? Or is this really where you want to -- this is what you want to build off of synergistically?
That's something that we want to build off of. And the reason for it is, we want to protect consistency of the model and go to market. It's extremely difficult to manage a business that $7 billion and you have 12 P&Ls in it and each of them operates differently. So we're trying to get consistency, have teams focused. That's the reason we actually are shedding TLW to get more consistency in our business model and in order to -- for the teams to be more focused and have a better schedule.
Is T&M kind of an offshoot here that like whether it's electronic test or -- I know it's a little bit outside of what you guys do. Is that an area that could be of interest? Emerson bought NATI, that type of portfolio?
We're not shutting down any, I would say, any targets right now and keeping the optionality for us. The key for us is to make sure that the businesses are in areas where the technology stack is quite high. So where you need to innovate, you need to get the product certified or you need to be specified where you have not only creating installed base, but this installed base as aftermarket. And in terms of M&A standpoint, we're looking for businesses that can be accretive to us on day 1, meaning they're in better end markets, better verticals, et cetera.
But I think the key point here is you guys talk about it is Industrial Automation. this is not meant to be, hey, look at the discrete systems automation players. We want to kind of replicate that type of business. This seems like it's a little more of a, for lack of a better term, niche market approach in a bit more fragmented.
Industrial Automation is extremely fragmented. And whether it's...
You need a PLC, do you need to go in that direction?
No, we do not. And for us, it doesn't really -- I would say, ultimately, it doesn't matter kind of which end market it is as long as it has those characteristics that fit our business model.
Okay. Any questions out there? I know it's early. Just moving to the bottom line on the margins. This year's margin expansion is fine, but not necessarily what we've known Honeywell for over the years. How should we think about the algo here going forward on an incremental margin or a year-over-year basis?
I feel really good about our margin story and how the business is going to evolve. And we spend a lot of 2025 setting this up, one, from a portfolio transformation; second, just from a company transformation inside out. So as we're separating Aerospace as we separate Solstice, we got ahead on our stranded cost takeout, which is going to be a significant driver of margin expansion over the next 12 months. We have better pricing discipline. Our NPIs are delivering better pricing as well. And M&A is accretive. So you'll see it on June 11, but I feel we have a very compelling story on the margin expansion.
And then just thinking about the moving parts, you guys have always had a pretty complex below-the-line dynamic.
That's right.
So just corporate for clarity there, maybe talk about what that number will be on day 1 and then what you're able to work out of that over a 12-month period. There's some moving parts there.
So our corporate number you see today is about $650 million. $400 million of that is net corporate costs $250 million is -- about $250 million is continue. So that's $650 million on day 1. On top of it, what you'll see on day 1, you'll see $350 million to $400 million of stranded costs. So essentially cost that we're assessing today to Aerospace that will come back to us. And then we'll work for 12 months to take this cost out. And we'll also be receiving from Aerospace and trademark, which is about $150 million a year. So that's going to be net down to the corporate cost.
And that will run into corporate. So we'll just see one line item that will start. This might go roughly $1 billion, whatever, and then $150 million -- $1 billion plus and then $150 million off of that.
That's right. I'm trying to keep it simple.
And then the $350 million, $400 million comes out over a 12-month time period?
12-month period. Yes. So we are talking about 12 to 18 months where we are today and based on how the teams have executed, I'm confident we'll take the cost out in 12 months.
Got it. And is there -- is that cost to take that cost out embedded in the onetime cost that you're thinking about in the deal? Or is this something you'll see in restructuring running through as well?
So it's both. It's because some of the restructuring we're doing are related to the separation, others are not. So you'll see from us probably going forward annual basis, $50 million to $150 million of restructuring costs. I would say this year, next year, those costs will be lower as we essentially took care a lot of the restructuring with the onetime costs.
And then lastly, just the pension elephant in the room has always been a big debate for you guys. How are you thinking about reporting the pension income going forward?
So maybe I'll start with this. Pension is overfunded. It's over 40% overfunded for Honeywell. The way we're handling pension, we'll split the pension between Aerospace and RemainCo based on essentially how employees fall out based on their service and the overfunding will proportion go with that.
So for file commission, we're discussing whether to keep the pension in our financials or keep it up. We're gathering feedback and we'll -- obviously, our Board needs to opine on it, but there are 2 schools of thought on it. But like I said, I'm trying to keep our financials very simple going forward and make sure that there is a very, very clear connection between earnings generated and free cash flow generated.
Maybe we can -- who thinks that Honeywell should remove the pension expense from the income statement despite it hitting earnings even though it's noncash?
So for those not in the room, it's about 80%.
Anyway, right.
Thank you for the feedback.
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks, Steve.
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Honeywell International — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
Honeywell International — JPMorgan Industrials Conference 2026
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Honeywell bestätigt das untere bis mittlere einstellige Umsatzziel und sieht Building Automation (BA) als Wachstums‑Treiber: starke Auftragseingänge, Forge‑Plattform und wachsendes ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) treiben mittelfristig höhere Margen und wiederkehrende Erlöse.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- BA‑Fokus: BA (~$7 Mrd.) wächst mid‑ bis high‑single‑digit; Datenzentren, Hospitality, Healthcare machen ~20% des BA‑Umsatzes und wachsen 2.5–3x schneller als Rest.
- Forge & AI: Forge verbindet installierte Basis (nur ~10% verbunden), NPI (New Product Introduction) und AI‑Anwendungen sollen von Verbindungs‑ zu Value‑Sharing‑Modellen führen.
- LNG & PT: UOP/LNG: letztes Jahr ~ $700M Bestellungen ($500M im Q4); LNG‑Kapazität für ~2,5 Jahre ausgebucht, Potenzial >$1 Mrd./Jahr bei Kapazitätsaufbau.
🔎 Neue Informationen
- Mittlerer Osten: Aktuell kein materialer Jahres‑Effekt; kurzfristig ~ $20–30M Umsatzdruck im Quartal durch Versandverzögerungen.
- Finanzen & Separation: Guidance bestätigt: Umsatz +3–6%, Margen +20–60 Basispunkte, EPS (Earnings per Share) +6–9%. RemainCo Hebel (Gross) ~3,5–3,7; Ziel: <3x bis Jahresende, langfristig ~2,5x.
- M&A & TLW: Fokus auf bolt‑ons/tuck‑ins; TLW‑Ausgliederung bereinigt Portfolio; Matthey‑Close angepeilt für August (regulatorisch abhängig).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Geopolitik: Auswirkungen Öl/Inflation und Airline‑Traffic; Management sieht bei anhaltend höheren Ölpreisen eher Investitionsanstieg, bei Rückgang Risiken für Margen.
- Monetarisierung Forge: Wie schnell von Verbindungen zu signifikantem ARR/Value‑Sharing? Management: Fokus auf Verbindungsrate zuerst, dann Ontologien und Preisgestaltung.
- Margen & Kostenabbau: Stranded costs $350–400M sollen in 12–18 Monaten rausgezogen werden; aktuelles Corporate ~ $650M, Trademark‑Zahlungen ~ $150M p.a.
⚡ Bottom Line
Fireside Chat liefert kein neues Richtungsbild, sondern konkrete Operationalisierung: BA‑Software/Forge plus LNG‑Backlog sind die wichtigsten Upside‑Treiber, während Separation, Stranded‑Cost‑Abbau und Leverage‑Reduktion die Marginstory untermauern. Kurzfristig geringe geopolitische Impact‑Risiken, mittelfristig klarer Pfad zu stabilerem, wiederkehrendem Wachstum.
Honeywell International — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
Well, good morning. I'm Andrew Obin. I'm Bank of America's multi-industrial analyst covering U.S. companies. Welcome to day 1 of Global Industrial Conference, our flagship event in London. It's a pleasure to have you here.
To kick things off, we have Chairman and CEO of Honeywell International, Vimal Kapur. Vimal, welcome to London. We've had Vimal here for many years, and I'm very excited that I get to keep cover the part of Honeywell that Vimal is going to be part of. So because it's always a pleasure. Thanks so much.
Thanks for having me. Good to be back here after, I think, 3 years.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay. So -- maybe we can start with some macro questions. I think your guide has been fairly conservative and probably by design. But just maybe give us the latest read on macro. You're seeing signs of macro improvement on the short cycle. And what I was referring to is that your organic growth is guided to go from 6% in the fourth quarter to 3% to 5% in Q1, even as PMI is getting better, maybe some of your competitors are sounding better. Maybe we can talk about that.
So typically, Andrew, when we go from Q4 to Q1, typically, seasonally, we do cycle down a little bit. So it's not abnormal. And this year, we have more backlog in the second half of the year, specifically for Process Technology. So it ramps up more in Q3, Q4. So just the year guide just plays out slightly differently this year. We're very confident in the guide we have given, which 3% to 6% for the year on the top line.
And quarter 1, I would say, is trending well. To your point on short cycle. I think the demand trends remain consistent of '26 versus '25, with only one variable being for the last 2 weeks, the war situation, what it will cause. But clearly, that's not going to have immediate impact on the short cycle in a 15 days period. But directly speaking, the demand in Aerospace remains strong.
All the short cycle in Building Automation, Industrial Automation business in the U.S. remains strong. So we don't see any signs of variability. I think only change over the last couple of weeks is how do we ship product in the Middle East. It's a high single digit of our revenue. It's again a tactical issue. It's not that we are losing volume, but it's just -- if I can't physically send things, it can have a transitionary impact. But otherwise, the quarter is trending as we have guided, and we think the year is also shaping up quite well.
And just maybe on the Middle East, the question we've been getting from folks just from a technical perspective, are there going to be -- should we expect any pushout on orders from Middle East? Talking to the company, it seems that the staff is there, people keep working. But just purely technical, should we expect any order delays or pushouts? How is that just going to work out from a technical standpoint?
So reality is, I mean, if you look at Honeywell as one data point, we have a large operation there. I would say one of the measure of presence is we have a large amount of people on site because of our service contract. So 95% of the people are still on customer sites, 5% sites are impacted, closed, partially closed or whatever.
So I would say we don't see any impact in our operation as far as serving our customer from a services perspective. But two things are being impacted, which are purely tactical. First, as I mentioned, our ability to ship product into the region. So there's definitely a disruption there. So that can cause some revenue moving from 1 month, just merely a matter of fact.
Large orders have been held up for closure in some places. But again, these are long cycle. The customers have been actually pulling forward long-cycle decision-making for the last 1 year, which is a new phenomena. So that doesn't bother me. I mean if something was due in March shows up in April or May. I don't want to change our guide for the year or for that matter next year. So fundamentally, I see this situation more like not impacting 2026, but can impact Q1 as things happen on a transitionary basis a little bit from a revenue top line.
Okay. So some minor impact in terms of revenue?
It's high single digit of our revenue. So if I can't ship some, so it can have obvious impact, it will be not prudent on my part to say, yes, there won't be...
But broad framework is still on time? The broad framework is the Middle East.
Absolutely. Broad framework is still in place. There will be always things in and out, but we remain confident for our guide for the year, and things are shaping up quite well.
And what's the impact over Iran because you do have a sizable Defense and Space -- Defense business. What's the impact on Defense and Space? And specifically, how should we think about how long would it take the revenue earnings impact on the positive side?
I mean, Jim Currier, who's President and CEO of Aerospace business, had an opportunity to meet President Trump about, I think, last week or a week before that. There is a ramp-up of the defense production. And clearly, we are one of the big serving defense production through our navigation systems in a big way, the CAES acquisition we made about 18 months back.
So all that will play out as there is a more backfill of ammunition being used. And if the demand is even greater than we had guided, that certainly will bring more upside. But it's hard to predict that at this point. I think when we'll go for the Q1 earnings, we should have a much better understanding of if the run rate production is even greater than what we -- when the year was started here. But net-net, I would say, defense side, likely more tailwinds. And on the flight hours, typically, the lag impact of higher oil price and commercial aerospace flight hours is an overarching business of Aerospace is a smaller portion because business jet is equally a big portion of our business.
So we don't believe that flight hours impact will be a meaningful impact on our business on a 2026 basis because we're also carrying $2.5 billion of past dues. So there are multiple variables at this point relative to the lagging effect of the flight hours, past dues we carry, defense production increasing lightly. my take is that net-net, the guide we have given will hold, should not have any net impact of the Iran situation on the Aerospace business.
And just maybe a little bit more on Defense and Space. Your exposure in Defense and Space is mostly Europe, Japan and Korea.
Outside the U.S., yes. I mean, outside the U.S. So our defense business is about 40% of the Aerospace business and 25% of that 40%. So it means about total 10% of the Aerospace business is international defense, which is highly weighted towards Europe, Japan and Australia and Korea. So that portion is growing extremely -- at an extremely high rate. We think that trend to persist for a long time, and that will continue to help the Aerospace business.
So there, the dominant theme should be sort of European reinvestment in defense rather than sort of supply -- ammunition depletion in the Middle East, right? Or would you benefit from that as well?
Definitely because ammunition depletion in Middle East causes us to supply more to Department of Defense, Department of War to backfill that. And the demand in Europe or other parts of the world is independent of that. There are different drivers. Yes, both positive.
And maybe just sort of before we go, sort of your guide in terms of incrementals. You were guiding incrementals low 20s in the first half of '26. At the same time, it seems that we are past a lot of price cost issues and Aerospace headwind. So just maybe expand a little bit why so conservative in the first half.
I mean, look, we've guided for the full year in terms of our margin expansion. So we are not going to be nitpicking what will happen in H1 or Q1 versus Q2. We're confident on the full year. I think specifically for Aero, a lot of margin depends upon what gets shipped in a quarter. And those dynamics depends upon what we produce, some of the customer demand.
The full year is highly deterministic. I think within a quarter, some variables will always exist. So as we close the quarter, you will see what earnings expansion will occur. So it depends on the overall mix and mix within the mix, which customers we are shipping the products.
We'll talk about more, but sort of part of it, is it fair to say that part of your incremental guidance or margin guidance for first half is just you being prudent?
Yes. We have to guide what we are confident of delivering as a minimum, and we always work to deliver on the upside, but we'll talk about it when we come for earnings guide in about 6 weeks' time from now.
So maybe you resegmented, so we'll just go down your new segments. So on Process Automation and Technologies, can we just talk a little bit more about UOP, clearly one of the crown jewels of the business. So totally get the comps issue, but there has been less visibility there over the past year or 2. And I know that orders are definitely getting better. But what would it take for UOP to gain momentum, to gain this footing and really start improving? Because as I said, it's been a bit wobbly over the past year or 2.
Yes. The Process Technology business has seen strong order momentum from Q3. We had strong orders in Q3, strong orders in Q4. The trend actually persists in Q1 also. We'll likely to see what we have seen observed in the first 2 months. These orders typically turn 18 months-ish on an average cycle time, 12 to 18 in that zone.
So therefore, second half of the year, our conviction that the Process Technology business will have a higher revenue growth is highly certain because we have a firm backlog. These are not estimated. These are not likely. These are firm commitments. So it's just a timing on how the backlog is converting.
I think the only variable remains that how the catalyst demand will shape up for petrochemicals, which has an overcapacity for a while. And that demand has been more flattish, which is part of our guide. That's why we guided Process segment to be more flattish for the year.
Now how the war and oil prices will change the demand of petrochemicals, that dynamics is yet to be played out. When we guided this situation, oil price was $60, now it's closer to $100. It's downward impact on the spreads and all that has to be observed. And we'll see if that changes our opinion about how business will perform for the rest of the year.
So a couple of questions. So generally, the spread widening is positive...
Positive thing because our customers make more money, more the spread, more money they make, it means they spend more money. So the markets have been tight on some of the downstream polypropylene market, for example, and customers have been paraxylene and they've been not spending money due to overcapacity because their margin rates are less.
So they are not under pressure to run their plants more intensely. Therefore, they don't need to push out the catalyst demand to a certain degree. So to me, it's more of a pushout, not a demand destruction. And as the higher oil price will go favorable, generally speaking, but it's too early to say how is the down impact of that on different petrochemical commodities. And will we see reversion of the volume back to us.
And then the second thing, I know that UOP -- you're not -- you actually do have a conservative forecast for UOP as part of your plan. So your comments on strength in orders in Q1, so even though the forecast is conservative, it sounds like that there's actually more visibility post what you've seen in the first 2 months in the guide, but better visibility now.
Better visibility now on the second half revenue ramp-up, which is part of our guide becomes even more strengthened because we're further building our backlog now. So I think we have to watch the short-cycle performance in that business, which is the catalyst demand. If that becomes stronger, certainly, there could be an upside, but that's not part of our guide. Our guide assumes things remain unchanged, '26 over '25. And if we see different facts, we'll share that.
And can we talk about separately what, I guess, used to be Elster and HPS, now it's really more of HPS, so core process business that would really comp with what Emerson does or Yokogawa does. What kind of trends are you seeing?
I think there -- the process trends are going to remain very similar to what we observed in Process Technology business. So continue to have wins in areas like LNG, et cetera. Life sciences is a business we have been focused on for the last couple of years. It's a small base, so we are growing that. Very strong demand for cybersecurity. That's an area.
The aftermarket services portion of the business is doing quite well. So I would say Process Automation segment is performing for rest of our peers, no substantial difference. And areas of strength are primarily LNG in particular and life sciences.
Okay. And maybe -- okay, and your peers sort of mid-single-digit growth, right? Is that...
I mean overall, Process segment, we guide now together, Process Automation and Technology. So I would say the combined guide is what you have seen. So there are obviously puts and takes within the 2 businesses.
But within, you sort of see that your business performs in line with what the public for your public peers.
That's right. It performs in line with the rest of the peers.
Can we sort of expand a little bit on biopharma reshoring because I know it has been a huge focus for you, a big focus for the company. Can you describe your -- because I think generally, people think of you as being more focused on downstream. Can you talk about your biopharma capabilities? And what are you seeing on biopharma reshoring in the U.S.? And what kind of traction are you getting?
I mean if you see our pharma business, our life sciences business is built on a very simple value proposition of managing the customer quality. Quality is so central to -- in life sciences business, poor quality means you have to throw away your product, batch, reputation risk. So we started this business by acquiring Sparta about 4 years back, which is a quality management system. Because we measure quality, we know the root causes of problem. And the root causes come from poor operational control, poor environmental controls.
So given that we are good in building controls, in environmental controls and process control, we are building this end-to-end quality control system. You measure and you control it. And that has been a slow momentum from something which was irrelevant for Honeywell a couple of years back is slowly making progress as a meaningful business.
And I'll admit we have to -- we are coming from behind. We have to compete with established players. But in this situation, we only have one way to go upside because we have no share to lose. We only have to gain share, and we are making slow progress. The early days of, I would say, reshoring in U.S., clearly, we are seeing projects being announced and some capacity getting expanded.
So certainly, that's a positive news. But these are long cycle demand. These are not going to show up into revenue in '26 or for that matter, even '27 because the cycle of this is longer. But clearly, the trajectory is in a positive direction. And this is one sector in U.S. certainly, we can see observed the facts of CapEx coming in.
Got you. Yes. Maybe we can talk about Building Automation. Clearly, business has been doing great. So maybe we can start Access Solutions acquisition. Can you talk about how it's being integrated? And what kind of growth have you seen since you've acquired it?
So if you see the Building Automation business have grown high single digit for 5 quarters in a row, and Access Solutions business is a big part of it. So it's growing at a similar rate, not much different. I think business has performed extremely well. Our thesis was that the world will require more and more solutions around security. Enterprise security, which is software-centric is a way to go, and that thesis out quite played well for us.
It's fully integrated into our business. We now treat Building Automation business into 3 pillars: fire, security and building management controls. And we -- our uniqueness of our business model is we sell product through channels.
Our direct business is 15% of the overall segment. Our projects business is much smaller. And our projects business is another channel to our own product business, right? So the whole business is a product business. Security is being part of it, fire and BMS control. And I think the whole driver we have in terms of generate growth through new product and sell through channel, that strategy is really working well for us.
Excellent. Maybe just to understand a little bit, and I actually will ask a question about BMS. But how do you think about data centers within Building Automation. Do data centers move the needle here? How big are data centers as part of Building Automation?
It's about just shy of about 5% of the revenue of the business. I mean if I was sitting here 3 years back, the number was 0. So we slowly worked our way through. Again, we serve data center with all those 3 systems. So our share is improving, but our spend percentage in data center is small. We are like 2% or less of the data center spend on the content which we provide. But it's meaningful. We provide fire protection system.
We provide security system. We provide environmental controls. And we're working with all Tier 1 and Tier 2 providers. We work with hyperscalers. We work with people like Equinix, [ Global Realty ]. We work with all the Tier 2 providers in Europe and in Asia. So slowly, the business is growing. While Building Automation is working on the controls portion of it, we also are actively working in our sensors business to develop new sensor for liquid cooling, which is going to be a thing of the future.
And if you have to control the liquid first, you need to sense it for the right temperature, right positioning, which is our core. So we are working on that. So our sensors business is actively looking at it. And we are also actively looking at it the impact of data center on on-site power generation. If that indeed becomes true and people invest on-site power generation, we do control of on-site power generation in core process industry forever, right?
That's our business. And that can become another extension of data center. So something which was nothing for us 3 years back. We have a good position in Building Automation. And we are improving our position in sensors. We are likely improve our position in Process. So just make me feel more and more bullish about Honeywell participation in data centers.
And maybe to expand on Building Automation, I think we were at AHR and you guys had sort of great presentation of software capabilities, BMS. And I don't know if people know, but you sort of provide the industry standard for software and control. Can you just talk about what's happening with your BMS business, how it's growing? Because clearly, when we talk to people who get the software from you. It's a big focus from them. They're experiencing good growth. Maybe you can talk about BMS businesses, how you're integrating? Clearly, it was fantastic to see a software offering, which clearly position as the leader in the market and very differentiated from your competitors offering. Maybe just talk about that software BMS and how you think about growth in that business, specifically BMS over the next several quarters.
So we -- Building Automation business is very nicely positioned in terms of having 1/3 play in -- 1/3 fire, 1/3 security, 1/3 BMS. It's kind of equally balanced all the 3 domains. BMS, we grew our business by providing Niagara, which is a control layer, which we provide, and that has been a core for our business for now 2 decades. What we have created over the last 3 years is the Forge platform, which is able to get data from multiple underlying BMS system regardless of Honeywell or anybody of our peer companies and able to build higher level of application capability on top of it for driving predictive maintenance, energy efficiency, emissions reporting.
And that segment of offering is growing quite very rapidly because it's a purpose-built offering. And we have worked really hard to build a solution, which is frictionless. It means you can get it started in a matter of hours when you connect it, it collects the data of the whole asset and customers get good visibility of their entire infrastructure, which was not possible earlier.
I mean if I have a 30, 40, 50 buildings, how do I get full visibility of my entire asset base? How do I know performance? How do I drive maintenance drivers? So that has been having a huge traction. And we are selling it through channels. So we are training our channels to sell software, and they're slowly now turning into a company, which was providing them hardware, also giving them a software tools to drive their mining their data installed base much better. So it's a very interesting change of our own business model that we grew a lot over the last many years by providing hardware solution, and we are adding software in addition to hardware, that remains because that's our core business to further grow our position in that segment.
And as we sort of go, I was going to ask about the strategic priorities, but you sort of alluded to power management, on-site power management, a lot of focus on behind the meter. When we go to industry shows, clearly, the data centers, battery storage, a huge thing. People definitely talking about just generally battery storage.
And I remember you have these large projects managing the control system for battery storage farms years ago. Can you just talk about that, how big a business it is today and how -- because it really seems something has changed in the market.
It has. I mean we started that Process Automation business developed this offering of doing control for battery storage in front of the meter. And we've done a few projects in large-scale, gigawatt hour scale. But what we realize is that opportunity set is greater behind the meter because there are so many assets in the world. Think of a hospital, stadium, a mall, which has 2-, 3-, 4-, 5-megawatt consumption.
And we really are working to turn the demand from front to the behind the meter. It means a solution which Process Automation developed a couple of years back, our Building Automation business is going to sell it, because advantage, Andrew, we have in buildings this we can also control the load dynamically.
So the system can perform to the demand of the grid, and we can do the the peak management more dynamically versus the front of the meter is just a static system. It's responding the frequency and providing the resilience it needs. But it's early days. If you ask me, rate of change of our business, which can change a lot is the energy storage if it shapes up. What I don't like about this business is batteries.
We don't make batteries. It's like 70% of the content. So it's like pass-through a lot of volume without much margin. But what I like about it is the control solution is very unique. That's what we do as a core. We connect with the grid. We can provide dynamic controls. But like any other segment, we just need to put our bets into multiple new things so that we keep our optionality open on where the world really wants to move in.
I do believe that as the U.S. and even in Europe, there's more and more grid demand, the demand side -- while the supply side is being created by having more power generation through gas or nuclear, the demand side also has to be managed by putting energy storage to reduce the peak consumption. And we work with multiple customers to get them excited, but it's early days of that business.
So as I think about priorities, we sort of talked -- we talked about data centers and we talked about BMS and Forge. We talked about battery storage. Anything else I missed in terms of growth priorities of the business?
I mean, in Building Automation, I would say, the core -- we are focusing our focus on 3 growth markets. We talked about data center. We're really excited about hotels. The world is building a lot of hotel rooms. We have purpose-built control for hotel rooms. The thermostat, which you all see a little there, it's Honeywell. We have a high share of demand in that product category. Electronic locks, if you use a Hilton or a Marriott app, the digital keys, which get issued is our product.
So we have a lot of content in hotels and then hospitals. So those are the 3 verticals. In U.S., actually, we also see a lot of demand for battery manufacturing plants, because they need sophisticated environmental controls. If you make battery out of and humidity is not controlled, you have to throw the batch. So focus on high-growth verticals to generate more installed base and mine your installed base through our Forge platform, that is the momentum we are carrying in that business.
We have been gaining share for the last 5 quarters. Our guide suggests mid- to high single digits. And if we continue to gain share, we'll be an upper end of the guide. We don't want to be prudent on our part to beat our chest to say we will gain share all the time. I think we have to be cautious to say, yes, there are other people working equally hard, and we have to just settle back and come to the more -- more towards mid-single. We'll see how it performs.
Any signs of life in just U.S. nonres market in general? Are you getting more optimistic about it or...
I mean the markets we serve, our business in the U.S. has moved much more towards institutional business. So think about university campuses and schools and hospital systems. So actually, there, the demand remains very stable year-on-year. Within the Building Automation business, actually, the U.S. is the highest growing market for us, and we don't see any change '26 over '25.
And maybe we can dig into Industrial Automation. And the only thing is sort of Industrial Automation makes sense. But how should we think about Industrial Automation as a platform for Honeywell going forward, right? There have been headlines about streamlining the portfolio, but we really have parts of what was inside Process Solutions and sensing at the heart of the business.
They sort of sound the same, but they're different businesses. And I know you and I have talked about sort of Industrial Automation, research versus development. What does 2 years out, 3 years out, what does Industrial Automation still look like as a segment?
We are building a business in which we want to be the leader on sensing and measurement in Industrial. What we realize is that after we complete the transaction of the 2 businesses, which are held for sale, the remaining business will be just shy of $4 billion, and it will be entirely sensing and measurement.
There's no category leader in critical sensing, critical measurement. So our business is all about sensors for medical devices and so for plane, gas detection for hazardous environment and semiconductor fab, oil and gas, critical metering for gas for homes and commercial buildings. We believe there is no real category leader in the industrial world of having critical sensing and measurement.
Now we have done -- created a category in Building Automation or building controls. There was no large building controls company in 2018 until we decided to create a category, and now we have a $7.5 billion business, right? So these products have the similar characteristics. They are all mission-critical. They are all sensing and therefore, they need a good product development process, which we are good at. They need a good manufacturing process. We know that how to do it. We need good channel management process. So it plays very well to our core and it's all automation.
So we are going to work very hard to run the business what we have well and add more to it through acquisition to the core, which we already possess. We are not going to go too far away. Critical sensing, critical measurement will remain the theme. So the way we look at new Honeywell's portfolio, Buildings, Process and Industrial. In Process, we are primarily a solutions company. In Industrial, we are primarily a sensing company. And in Building, we are a combination of the both. And it's all automation control and playing in different sense of the stack is our capability.
Great. Maybe finally, you do have an Aerospace business. Maybe we can talk about commercial OE. How should we think about the margin impact and timing of new contracts with Boeing in Aerospace?
So these contracts are long term and some of them are expiring. So we are negotiating some of the OE long-term contracts as we speak. And this negotiation process could be as long as 18 months. because we're not talking about future pricing for contracts, but also looking at volumes. We're looking at some things which are selectable moving single source, looking at commercial terms like liquidity damages. So as these contracts get renegotiated, that should act favorably for Aero margins '27 onwards because they really start really ramping up later part of this year.
So it's late, so we should be thinking impact late '26, but really...
'27. Yes. I think Aero has a great setup for '27 in terms of getting the headwinds going away because we have been absorbing inflation from these contracts for many years, tariffs through more headwinds for us for 2025. But as they all lap back now, that's become the new baseline and these contracts get renegotiated, that should position business quite well for 2027 from a margin standpoint.
And can you talk about just sort of commercial OE shipments recoupling with those schedules? Where are we?
It's mostly synchronized, I would say. Our guide this year is based upon that the commercial OE shipments and our total overall growth is quite synchronized now. We will see quarter-to-quarter, there could be some differences. But on a yearly basis, we think it's on a same rate basis.
Excellent. And the message on margin, as I said, still margin improvement second half weighted.
I think, yes, overall, for the year, the margins will improve. We have been bouncing around 26% margins for the last few quarters. We think we have a pathway now to get from there to the next step. Within [indiscernible] mentioned before, it's hard to predict within a quarter, but confidence for the full year is very strong.
And as we think post the spin, what's the right range for -- how should we -- right, because it's going to be a stand-alone company is going to look different. What's the right way of thinking about Aerospace margins on a stand-alone basis on its own company?
So right now, I'd say Aerospace margin is 26%. Subtract from that onetime corporate costs, which still stand up this company, so they come more towards 24% because 150 basis points in that range will be the setup cost for the company. And originally, we had said that margin rate can go up to 29% when it was part of Honeywell.
And there was a margin expansion, say, from current rate of 26% to 29%. As it rerates itself from 26% to say, 24%, that 300 basis margin point expansion run rate still exists. It's going to come through with the volume leverage as volume continues to grow. It comes through the point which you mentioned earlier, the inflation headwinds become less with the different pricing contracts.
And then the mix is normalizing now. I mean we, at one point, had extreme mix of OE that's synchronizing more and more. So it's all trending towards normalizing our margin expansion story for the business moving forward. So it's going to grow at a high single and margin expansion will also -- it's going to be a good story.
And the stranded cost impact on your business?
We will talk about it in our Investor Day coming up shortly in about what, 3 or 4 months, right? 11th of June. And look, we already are estimating it, and our goal is to eliminate all of it 18 months or less. Do I like 12 months versus 18? Absolutely. But we -- the challenge is we are one company until we are not separate Aerospace. So we can't eliminate any costs right now because we have to run this one big ship and do the separation in a perfect manner.
We can really have entitlement to do the cost reduction right after that. So we are making all the plans. But I do remain confident that this is a transitionary thing. It's not going to have any long-term impact on our P&L. Quicker we do. And I think we'll share the absolute numbers and its wind-down schedule during our June Investor Day.
Maybe you've done a whole bunch of recent acquisitions, just maybe pivot a little bit. Access Solutions, Civitanavi, Sundyne. How are they doing versus the plan?
So we took quite a different view to rebuild our portfolio while we're doing the separation so that we don't have to ask for another reason why we will not deliver strong performance post separation. So I would say our acquisitions are performing actually better than our own financial algorithm we had in terms of returns.
Access Solutions business is performing extremely well, above TBA. LNG business is performing extremely well. Sundyne business is performing extremely well. We also made a small acquisition in cybersecurity for -- in Process Automation that's performing well.
We acquired a business in BA on specialized sensing for battery sensing, Li-ion Tamer technology. So all acquisitions are performing above financial rubrics. We are adding sales synergies, and they are going to help us to bring our momentum of the top line growth because our strategy of having bolt-on acquisition is working.
We have never moved to any unknown space. We all -- know all these spaces. We play in these. We clearly know what gap exists in our offering and how much of momentum we can build in our growth and staying disciplined is name of the game, and we have stayed very, very disciplined on acquisitions we have made.
So what has been -- a, which one has done the best? And what are the key takeaways lessons as you're rebuilding because you deliberately went and you rebuild -- you have new Head of M&A, you're rebuilding your M&A muscle. So what are the key learnings, I guess, from -- as you're getting more in the groove of making these deals?
I would say bolt-on acquisitions is key. You should be more confident on what you want to acquire, how does it fit into your strategy and test really hard your ability to do sales synergies because cost synergies can be done by anybody. Honeywell doesn't have to buy an asset under sponsor can do it. They can actually do a better job of cost synergies than we can do.
Our value come to make the asset better with new products by scaling it globally and driving sales synergies. So that's our lesson learned. Stay disciplined. Stay bolt-on. Don't move too far away from your core and also stay disciplined. We are not going to overpay beyond a point, we don't feel comfortable and financial discipline is key for acquisition. There's no must-have acquisition. We love our portfolio. We're very happy with what we have. But we keep looking at optionality if something exists, which can grow us better. So we want to acquire more should it fit into our financial algorithm.
IA seems to be a big target.
IA, we will absolutely look at it because in our new construct, we are 40% Process, 40% Building, 20% IA. I like to balance it. And we have optionality to build a new set of portfolio of sensing measurement in Industrial. So we're excited about that option. But again, we'll see what comes across our way and if we can execute it.
And maybe the last question, sort of maybe you can talk about software. And I think software is tricky because you have OT integrated with your DCS offering. But I think you've also identified $1.8 billion of other more like -- which I think more like IT-like offerings. And my understanding, vast majority of it is ending up...
Yes. On RemainCo.
So how should we think about -- lots of discussion about threats and opportunities presented by AI to your sort of software business?
I would say, look, the segments which we serve in Honeywell are all mission-critical. We serve critical refineries, petrochemical, life sciences, data center, hospital, sensors for planes. If you just take the type of offerings we do, the financial return for using AI versus risk of replacement is very high. You can really create a big downside. So just by the segment we serve, we're heavily protected because we do deterministic controls in mission-critical segment.
So I don't see -- unlike some other segment where replacement can occur because risk is lower because of very nature where we play, I don't see any risk. In fact, as I mentioned to you, the Forge platform is all about taking capability of AI, connecting our installed base and building new offerings.
In fact, for me, that's an upside of taking our automation business towards autonomy, because what I always ask my team is if cars can be autonomous, why industrial plant is not autonomous. But autonomy in our world is going to be much more different. It's going to be giving tools to the people, making them more productive. It's less about replacement. It's more about driving customer throughput with better tools. So overarching story is we are quite protected for any AI-related replacement because of the very nature of our business, and we only see an upside possibility...
Probabilistic....
Probability-based systems don't work. I mean you want your plane to land, not almost land, right? So it could be dangerous.
That's why probability...
Yes, it's going to land. Maybe, may not be. We will see what happens.
With that, we're right on time, Vimal.
Thank you very much. Thanks, Andrew.
Thanks, Vimal.
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Honeywell International — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
Honeywell International — Bank of America Global Industrials Conference 2026
📊 Kernbotschaft
- Leitlinie: Management bestätigt das Jahreswachstum von 3–6% (organisch) und bezeichnet das Q1‑Setup als saisonal konservativ; volle Jahres‑Guidance bleibt unverändert.
- Nachfrage: Kurzzyklische Nachfrage in Building und Industrial robust; Aerospace‑Service/Defense als Tailwind.
- Risikofokus: Kurzfristige Liefer-/Versandstörungen in der Nahost‑Region können Q1 leicht verschieben (Hohe‑einstellige Umsatzerwartung dort).
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Process Technology: UOP‑Aufträge sind laut Management deutlich gestiegen, Backlog ist firm; Umsätze erwarten im 2. Halbjahr stärkere Umsetzung.
- Building Automation: Fokus auf Softwareplattform Forge und Building Management System (BMS) für Predictive Maintenance, Energiemanagement und Emissions‑Reporting; Vertrieb über Channel skaliert.
- Portfolio & M&A: Bolt‑on‑Zukäufe (z.B. Access Solutions, Sundyne) performen über Plan; Ziel: Ausbau von Sensing/Measurement im Industrial‑Bereich.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Mittlerer Osten: Logistische Einschränkungen beeinträchtigen temporär den Warenversand; Management schätzt betroffene Region auf hohen einstelligen Prozentanteil des Umsatzes.
- Investor Day: Management kündigt detaillierte Zahlen zu Stranded Costs und Trennungsplan für die Aerospace‑Spin‑off am 11. Juni an.
- Aerospace: Neuverhandlungen von OE‑Verträgen laufen; positive Margeneffekte erwartet vorrangig für 2027.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Konservativer Guide: Warum so vorsichtig in H1? Management nennt saisonale Effekte, Mix‑ und Timing‑Risiken sowie prudent gesetzte Mindestannahmen.
- UOP‑Visibility: Analysten haken nach Umsetzungszeitraum; Antwort: Orders wandern mit 12–18 Monaten Zyklus in H2 in Umsatz.
- Defense & Iran‑Thema: Nachfrage in Defense als potenzieller Upside; kurzfristige Unsicherheit bei Lieferketten/Shipping, aber kein erwarteter FY‑Einschnitt.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Präsentation bestätigt: Honeywell setzt auf Software‑aufbau in Buildings, backlog‑getriebenes H2 im Process‑Segment und Defence/Aero‑Tailwinds; kurzfristige regionale Versandrisiken bleiben, die Jahresprognose gilt weiterhin.
Honeywell International — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
1. Question Answer
Again, we're very excited to have Honeywell with us today. We've got Vimal Kapur, who is the Chairman and CEO of Honeywell. And Mike Stepniak in the audience, he's the SVP and CFO.
And Vimal I walk over, it's only been a couple of weeks since you reported earnings. We know that. But maybe give us an update. You do have a fair amount of shorter-cycle businesses. Obviously, Building Automation has been very strong. Aero has been very strong in your long-cycle businesses, and you've got a reasonably strong orders.
So take us through what's been happening in Q1, if anything, is different, new, anything like that?
I think fundamentally, the momentum what we saw in '25 continues in '26. If you ask me what's the change year-over-year, I think external markets remain very, very similar. Aero, very strong. Building Automation, we have a strong, both short and long cycle. Industrial Automation business actually is doing quite well in North America, but not that strong demand in Europe and China, which makes our guide more around what we guided there.
Essentially, the only market where we see more lack of demand is petrochemicals catalyst. And I think the world has enough capacity. We're talking about it probably for the last 2 or 3 earnings calls. And our guide assumes that the situation persists in 2026. But the opposite tail of that is the long cycle and process is very strong. Our orders have grown 2 quarters in a row. We even see Q1 shaping up quite well. So long cycle capacity build continues on LNG and refining, while short cycle catalyst demand remains, specifically on the petrochemical side, more dormant to flattish because of excess capacity. So we feel good about the guide we provided about 3 weeks back for the year and including for Q1, things are shaping as directed, and we'll work very hard to be on the upper end of our guidance.
Vimal, let me follow up on one of the things you just said, like just in terms of projects on the long cycle side. Like do you see customers in this environment actually like going forward with the projects. You're getting the orders, right? You've talked about projects actually going to revenue as you get later in the year. Do you see that happening more regularly? Or...
I think what has happened is, given the -- if you just see the cycle of industrial over the last 3 years, there are some segments which are heavy, very high demand. Aerospace, data centers, LNG. So what I have seen is that because of the high demand, customers are now also placing orders more ahead of the time compared -- due to capacity constraint.
Let's take example of our LNG business. We are booked till practically end of '27 already and actually early '28. So order booking keeps growing, but our capacity is limited to a certain volume. And aerospace is a similar example we've been talking about. Aerospace is booked for a long time, but we can only grow our volume by 12% to 14% every quarter. So I think these bookings are reflective of the long demand in some of these sectors, but the volume growth or revenue growth is constrained by capacity, which exists to actually physically deliver the volume what we have in our backlog. And we're raising our capacity across the board, where aerospace is investing more capital to increase its capacity. We are expanding our facility for LNG facility by 2x because that's the level of demand. But in spite of that, we are booked. So that kind of shows the demand profile there at this point.
We'll definitely dig in a little bit more on that, Vimal, later. But I want to ask you like, obviously, there's a big few months for you as you get closer to sort of separation. I think you tell me, but one of the main reasons to separate Honeywell was to improve focus across major businesses. And so I guess the way I want to ask you this is, have you seen any of those positive impacts already? You've already separated Advanced Materials, became Solstice. Maybe one of the biggest beneficiary if you look at a small or streamlined Honeywell in terms of the businesses?
I think across the board, I mean, as I spend more time on RemainCo, our ability to look at each segment and its growth potential is very different than what it was when I started as a CEO about 2.5, 3 years back. And I think fundamentally, if you see how decisions we made on Industrial Automation since we decided the spin to say these segments fit less. By separating them, we become a pure-play sensing and measurement in industrial is a new development we did over the last 6 to 9 months. So every segment, we are able to bring strategic clarity, but also how as one company, we are going to work as a much more effective automation player.
So there's a -- if you ask me when we made a decision to separate as 3 companies, which was October of '24, when we first announced Advanced Materials as Solstice. And today, 18 months, actually, my confidence is very higher because now we are living that life. In October '24, it was a hypothesis. We think it's going to be great. The charts look great. And our research showed this will make a lot of sense. Now we are living that life. Aero is living that life. They see more potential, more opportunities. Automation sees far more opportunities. We are also, timing-wise, spinning as an automation company at a time when AI is becoming much more a tailwind for us in terms of creating new offerings, and we'll talk about it. That's just a nice timing-wise, the convergence is happening at the right time. So fundamentally, I'm a firm believer, focus happens. Focus definitely benefits us. Simpler companies are easier to run and easier to execute, and that's the reason we did the split here.
The AI common is a good advertisement for everyone. So we'll stay tuned for that. But maybe I could ask you about new product intros because '25 was a good year for that. You mentioned 4% growth. But I think you've talked about it was weighted toward Building Automation. So maybe give color as to why NPI has been able to build out there faster and how it then would spread to the rest of the organization.
Look, our effort to make new product as a primary vehicle for growth is across the board, Honeywell. This is not a specific strategy limited to one segment. But we have seen more results there. We will see more results in Industrial Automation starting from second half of the year. Just cycle. It's the cycle of developing new product, specifically in case of Industrial Automation, a lot of our products are certified by customer. So I developing alone is just half the battle. And then somebody has to go through the cycle of approving. It's just -- Buildings have a lesser hurdle rate. Industrial has a slightly longer hurdle rate.
Now in the process market, the situation is a bit interesting, and we are not seeing the outcome of new products, primarily driven by the end market dynamics, less by our own innovation. So we invested a lot of dollars to create new offerings for biofuels, for example. And now the biofuel adoption has gone practically 0 for the last 12 to 18 months. So did we invest in the wrong place? I absolutely don't think so. I think the world needs it. But now adoption has gone kicked to the right.
And the solution businesses, the NPI cycle is more cyclical because of nature of the solutions because it's a projects business. BA, Building Automation and Industrial Automation are pure-play product businesses. It's pretty black and white. If they grow, Building Automation grew 7% last year, 4% was product, new products, 3% was price. And we think we can repeat the same logic much more easily in Industrial Automation. And the process is a solution business. It will always have an end market driver. If end markets are favorable, we'll grow there also at the same rate. So strategy is across the board. Our R&D is now above median. We spend a lot of offering on offering management, customer co-creation. So that's a central thesis of how Honeywell wants to live its future.
Got it. That's very helpful. And Vimal, I remember when you and I first talked, you're CEO for not that long, you talked about sort of Honeywell trying to improve data collection and information gathering because that would help you price. And so I thought it was really encouraging to see 4% price in '25. I think you're guiding to something similar in '26. So maybe talk about where you are in terms of maturation towards a full dynamic pricing? And what could that mean towards your incremental margin moving forward?
I mean, look, the pricing has become -- the inflation has become a, I would say, a new gating factor for industrial company like us. And inflation is persistent in that rate of 3% to 3.5%. And categories keep changing, but output doesn't change. It just remains in that range. So labor cost keeps increasing, which is a big category we buy. Electronics is more expensive. Capacity of semis. We all know about memory. We don't have much impact on that, but still overall indexation perspective, the cost is increasing. And commodities prices increasing. All commodities are expensive: copper, zinc, gold, platinum. We use a lot of precious metal for making catalysts.
So the input costs increasing, the first and foremost thing we are doing differently for the last 1 year is talk to customers about inflation in every meeting. I've been working for nearly 40 years. I did not grow up to talk about inflation. Our customers, you talk about new products and delivery and how things are going. But now we talk about inflation because we are conditioning market on what's coming ahead. So when we raise prices, they are not really surprised. So I think one thing we are doing differently is much higher communication.
Second is we are highly sensitive on elasticity and price volume. Last year, our price was 3%, volume was 3%. This year, guide is again 3% to 6% upper end. It means basically the same. If we have to get volume, we have to be sensitive that we can't throw price at people and assume they're going to absorb it all. And memories are long. And we just don't want to be seen as a irresponsible player who's just passing on all our problems with the customer. So productivity has to work equally so that I have some optionality not to pass on all prices. So price cost, if it's not neutral, if it is 10 or 20 basis point negative. But if I'm getting volume and volume leverage, it's still a good news because our margins are expanding. So I think we are putting far more effort on productivity execution apart from pricing.
And finally, I would say the thing which gives me most confidence to deliver pricing is through new products. Because if inflation is here to persist, if it's going to persist in '27 and '28, there's only so many years we can keep going and ask for 3%, 4% price increase. We are anticipating that will have a demand effect. However, if we can create a higher value capture for our customers through our channel partners, through our OE, then price becomes less of a debate, then the value becomes in the front of the discussion.
So overarching, I would say our playbook is very different compared to 2 years back, much higher level of customer communication, much higher level of sophistication on elasticity, much higher focus on new products. And all in all, we feel confident. I mean this year, pricing will be again 3% range, 3% to 4% range. We'll see how the year progresses. And I think it's going to be same in '27, too. I don't see -- I haven't read any news by which I believe that industrial inflation is going to go down based upon the commodities and the products and services we buy.
Right. And Vimal, you mentioned limited exposure to memory pricing. So like you're fine with that and you can stay ahead generally on price versus cost?
Yes, it's limited to just one business. We have the business of productivity solution. We make mobile computers and scanners. Those are like iPhone that has onboard memory. And that memory is something we have to work with the memory providers, which is Samsung and Micron. The good news is they are both our customers because they buy gas detection products from us. It just makes it easier. We know we have a deep relationship with them for many years.
So it has been helpful to understand what they want us to do to become a more trusted supplier, and they made it quite transparent to us. They essentially want us to migrate to more standard products. The volume which they are producing, they'll say, if you start buying this, you won't have any issue, but we have to redesign our product to migrate towards those memory, which is more of a transition thing. So I feel good about protecting our volumes this year. And longer term, we will manage it effectively. But the issue is narrowly into one business, not widely spread at this point.
Helpful, Vimal. So another initiative I think you spent a lot of time on is what I think you've called compounding business models. So you take the best-in-class business in Honeywell, you turn their ability to harvest their installed base and you kind of translate that to your other businesses. So sort of where are you in that process? Because again, it seems like it's worked very well in Building Automation. You tell me, and maybe it's still on the comm for other businesses.
Fundamentally, I think one of the things we had to take a call is as we become a pure-play automation company in 6 months or less, how do we define what automation segment we play? Because automation is a $500 billion, $600 billion TAM, and we're going to be just $20 billion.
So the line we have drawn is 2 ways. One, we want to be in the mission-critical automation segments where product or solution matters with the customer because that gives you a longevity of relationship, that gives you pricing power, that gives you aftermarket because the stuff matters to them. The second, we want to live with the business model of build and mine installed base. Now once we define those principles, it's easier than to say what you want to own and what you don't want to own because that does fit in this definition.
Now on a broadly speaking, at the exit, our total services and software aftermarket is about 40%. And having lived with aerospace, they're already at 50%. So a question we ask is, how many years will it take to get this mix of half and half. And I think it just derisks the business model. I'd say the maturity is medium across the board in Honeywell because we never emphasized the business model being the primary driver of our existence.
We have services business already. So that's not a novelty. All our competition has a services business. So there is no ingenuity in that. But when you say my business model is aftermarket services, you do things differently. I'll give you 2 examples. We put in a system in place starting, I would say, late of 2024 and entire '25 to record all our installed base in a single system of record in entire Honeywell. So I know all the installed base of all the businesses by number of assets, by customer name anywhere in the planet.
Now why it matters? Because we already know our penetration rates. So we can ask a business to say, why your penetration is low? What are you doing? I mean, why it's only 30%? Your colleagues have 60%. So you guys don't know what to sell, you don't have offerings. So we did not think of those kind of systems. Similar example, it will be all our effort on our Forge platform is essentially to mine installed base at the heart of it. We want to mine installed base in a structured manner using data science, versus a good old way of break, fix. Okay, something fixed, give me a call, I have a service contract. Yes, that's still in play. But the world is changing fast and people expectations are changing.
So the business model focus is making us behave differently. I can see people coming back to me with the new ideas and how can they generate new aftermarket service, which was not talked earlier. And I think that notion will play over a period of time. And we'll talk during Investor Day, when do we think we get from 40% to 45%. I mean it's a time-bound thing. It's not going to be immediately, but we do believe that mix change is a big favorable factor for us moving forward.
That's very interesting. And so I want to shift gears and talk about Quantinuum for a second. I think you gave a lot of good color on the earnings call, but it definitely seems like the momentum in that business picked up significantly. So was it that you reached an inflection point in the technology last year? How would you characterize the acceleration activity at Quantinuum?
I think the 2 things are helping us there. First of all, the hardware platform, we launched a hardware platform in November of 2025, which generates a 48 logical qubits at a 99% plus fidelity. So I know lot of jargons here, and that is intense. So let me demystify that, what exactly it means. When a quantum computer has to be taught in terms of its accuracy of its logical qubit. So physical qubits don't really matter if your error rate is 50%, it means everything you produce is wrong. So we have solved the fidelity. It means what we solve for is very accurate. So our -- for every 2 physical qubit, we can produce 1 logical qubit, that's a big deal in quantum.
Now in about a year's time from now, we will have a quantum computer with 100 logical qubits. That's happening with high certainty. At that point, it's more powerful than any other classical computer available in the world. That fact is now making customer more intrigued to what to do with it because it's coming in 12 months. It's not future. It's not somewhere out. And if I'm in a business where my business can get impacted, I need to do something about it. I can't be sitting on the sidelines. And the 2 most impacted -- 2 most interested end markets are banks and pharmaceutical.
So molecule discovery can happen faster. They can do multiple state discovery simultaneously versus experimentation. But certainly, those use cases have to be proven. So we'll be working with -- we are working with different pharmaceutical companies to develop use cases. Banks are looking at a different way to look at their encryption, which is a big deal for them because quantum provides a very higher degree of encryption capability, which doesn't exist in a normal way.
So the short version of the story is as we see traction of customers engaging with us and actually contracting with us even at a modest way, that gives us the confidence that this company is capable to be a stand-alone company, and Honeywell control is no more necessary. So the hardware platform has been accomplished. Business model has to be accomplished in next, I would say, 12 to 36 months and that's our window, earlier the better, because we don't want to keep ownership of that beyond a point of time.
The other thing which is helping us, apart from the hardware proving, I mentioned 2 factors that are helping us. Second is a word called AI because AI needs high compute. And one of the things we have been working with NVIDIA since last year is how to create a software environment in which workload is shared between GPU and quantum because if customers are doing an AI-based use case development and if compute power is a constraint, then we want to share the workload here. So that also generates customers' interest because they're already doing it. I mean we're not competing with anybody there. We kind of -- it's a coexistence. Like GPU exists along with CPU. It's not that when GPU came, CPU doesn't disappear. So when quantum come, it doesn't mean other things don't exist. It's a coexistent strategy, which we believe is going to happen there.
So I remain very optimistic. I think there's a lot of value capture for our share owners because Honeywell owns 52% of quantum. So at the exit, when we do it, it has a benefit of P&L pass-through, which is now $250 million of investment we make every year. So certainly, that gives us a relief. And on top of it, the cash it generates is certainly an upside for us, and we can create value for our shareowners.
It's very interesting, Vimal. So I want to open it up to the audience in a minute, but let me ask you, the other thing you did when you became CEO is you restarted the flywheel at Honeywell, as you know. And so one of the first big acquisitions you made was the Carrier Global Access Solutions business. So maybe it seems like it's doing really well inside Building Automation, but I'd be curious for you to update it and talk about what lessons you learned as this was your first big integration as CEO.
I mean I would say the fundamental lesson is that bolt-on acquisition is the best way for us to stay disciplined. We acquired in the spaces, which we know well. We already knew this asset for many, many years, and we were not dabbling into a new space. We exactly knew the space. We know the segment side. We know the customers. We know the cost synergies. We know the sales synergies. So our primary M&A strategy has been bolt-on. If you see the subsequent acquisitions we did like acquiring LNG business or Sundyne, these were bolt-on to UOP business, right? So required smaller tuck-ins of cybersecurity bolt-on to process automation business. So I think that has been our lesson learned that staying disciplined, both by strategy and by financial is the key.
I think other learning which has been very encouraging for us is that Carrier acquisition ended up being a carve-out. And we had to become a sponsor to basically take just the business without anything else. So that gave us a new capability to act like a sponsor. So LNG business we acquired were also a carve-out from Air Products. So we've generally become comfortable to do carve-outs of our bigger assets. And that gives us more optionality. I mean, it's not that's a strategy, but you don't have to acquire the whole business. You go after what you think really is required with that.
And final point I would say is that our ability to live with the business model for each of these acquisitions. They're all truly living to our spirit of mission criticality, build and mine installed base. So we are acquiring businesses which live to our -- what new Honeywell we want to build. And this is really helping us to reshape our portfolio. I mean, as a headline on exit, our net portfolio changes 30%. So 15% of the revenue has been exited and 15% of the revenue has been added. It's a pretty substantial shift. And we want to show that in Investor Day, one of the biggest goal I have is that people understand what's our portfolio now because I fully understand the change is significant. And probably everybody is tracking it one at a time, but we want to give a more holistic picture where we stand today.
Yes, that's interesting. Any questions from the audience? We have a question.
As AI data centers build scale, are you seeing architecture standardize across customers? Or are workloads driving more bespoke systems?
I mean the data center, our participation in data center is limited to our Building Automation business, right? And we think customers are talking much more of standardization of their build. And they want to make sure that they can copy and replicate that. So I would say that standardization is what we hear from all large builders. And the key thing they are making us do is to reduce the cycle time of execution. It turns out that we are the last guy or gal in into the commissioning. We are the last people to show up. So we are always behind because the project is behind.
So we have been working with hyperscalers and understand that how we reduce commissioning time of our system by 90% using the tools of self-commissioning. So while they are standardizing, it's helping us to design our system so that our commissioning cycle can dramatically be reduced. So rather than we're taking 3 weeks, we can do it in 2 days. So that 2 weeks uptime is a lot. And we are actually launching that as we speak with one of the large data center developers. So standardization is what I hear all the time. They want us to have standard products. They want us to have standard execution.
Honeywell's biggest value proposition actually for our customer is our global scale. Regardless of who you are, we exist everywhere. So it's a peace of mind. You can build a data center in Norway or in Indonesia or in Virginia, we can get it done for you with the same standard. If you have a standard, we are the company to go. If you do not have standard, you can shop around. So I think it works good for us from a value proposition perspective.
Any other questions?
Can I ask one more?
Yes.
On to quantum, from an industrial systems perspective, does quantum feel like a 3- to 5-year integration opportunity or more of a 10-year plus research arc?
I would argue it's more closer than far. I think we believe that quantum will have an impact into commercial world more in a 3-year window versus even in a 5-year window because the machine, which is capable of breaking the computational power will be available in approximately 12 months from now.
What is not available is the capability to use the machine. It's a pretty strange situation that you have a road, but you don't have any car. I mean we don't know how to make use of it. So that time, the use case development or economic value creation is a limiting factor. Will it take, as I said, 12 months, 24 months, 36 months. But the interest level from customers is very, very high. And therefore, I -- my personal belief is it's more 3 years versus -- it's definitely not 10. And also, it's a good solution to this compute power need of the world because quantum doesn't need big space and a lot of power. You can fit 2 quantum machines in this room, just to give you a perspective. So it doesn't -- it's a very different technology. So it also is helpful to scale the compute power, which the world needs without endless need for expanding a lot of data centers.
So maybe, Vimal, just digging into the segments a little bit more. We've talked about Building Automation a lot, but I just have one follow-up there. Like your solutions business has been outperforming your products business for a while. And I think you've told us before that products is much higher margin. So does '26 get more in balance, like how do you feel about that?
It's definitely more or less. I think last year, we grew solution at 8% and product at 7%. The solution, our aftermarket services grew actually at a very high rate. That's because our connected building solution is becoming more mature and all that revenue is being scored under the solutions bucket. So that certainly has been helpful. But product businesses are doing also extremely well. We think the trend will remain very similar in 2026. We have guided mid-single digit. And the question I'm most frequently asked is that we have 5 quarters in a row we have been growing 7% or 8%, why don't you guide the same? That guide will assume that we keep taking share all 4 quarters also in '26.
Can we do that? Answer is yes. But should we guide it? That will look a little lot of hubris that we think we can do it forever. So we're being more cautious. I think competition is smart. They are not waiting. So they will react to our share gain. But our efforts are not stopping. So we believe that we should maintain the same rate, and we'll report every quarter how we are performing there. But the solution product mix, we like 60-40 mix. 60% of our business is products, 40% of our business is solution. Within that 40%, 25% is services, 15% is projects. So our project business is actually very small. We are a pure-play products business. We sell products through channels. That's what our business model is. We have stayed honest to that business model for 6 years now, and it really works for us. So we don't want to change it.
Got it. So I already asked you about projects in the beginning. So when I look at process automation and technology, UOP is going to be a big portion of that. And I think you have good experience with UOP over the years. You've led that business back in the day. So why is it so lumpy these days? And you made a lot of acquisitions that are kind of around it, Johnson Matthey, Sundyne, Air Products. How can they help balance out the lumpiness, maybe?
So I think there are 2 parts of the story there. If you see the process technology business, the projects by default play out at this time of cycle of the project. So we have a good backlog, and we do expect good revenue from projects portion of that business in the second half of the year because we actually have the backlog. So we don't have to guesstimate anything there.
The lumpiness is primarily driven by the timing of the catalyst demand. Now catalyst demand is not linear. It depends upon the production rate of our customer. So if you are producing at a lesser rate, you need it later. And that drives lumpiness, and it's a very high-margin product. So in good time, we sold lots of it. So everybody is happy. And when there's overcapacity at this point, customers are running at a lower capacity, so they are moving the demand to the right. And that essentially is creating a certain level of lumpiness because it's not linear. It's not if you bought in January '23, you will buy in January '26. It could be July, it could be September, depending on your production rates.
We know about it. It's not a surprise factor for us. So I think a good thing always to look at process technology business as more linear on an annualized basis and not on a quarterly basis. It's just the nature of the business. There's nothing right or wrong about it. We know on an annualized basis, how will the business do. But within a quarter, you can have a lot of movement within 90 days period, but less movement within the 365 days window.
That's helpful. And then maybe focusing on your new Industrial Automation business. I mean you said in the beginning of this conversation, right, that what's left is basically sensing and measurement, right? So we understand that. But I think you can focus on improved execution, pricing, NPI within the portfolio there. So I think you said it's your biggest margin opportunity in '26. So maybe talk about that. And why would the business be down low single digit to flat if you have all these self-help initiatives that are going on?
So the business growth or the way we have guided flat to minus low single is more driven by end market drivers, primarily flattish Europe and lack of growth in China. The business is doing very well in North America, but that goodness gets offset by other factors.
What we are doing well in '26 is given that we know the end state of this business, now we have a firm position in Industrial Automation. We want to be sensing and measurement business in industrial. Given we have a clarity, we can do structural changes on our fixed cost, which we started doing in '26, which is becoming basis of margin expansion in Industrial Automation. And I think that will remain optionality for next couple of years because now we are rowing the boat in a certain direction. Earlier, our boat was more around trying to find our direction, but we know we want to go this direction. So our new product strategy is working very well, as I mentioned before.
There's no reason we can't do what we do in Building Automation and Industrial Automation. It's a very similar business model. We sell product through channels. It happens to be industrial products. There happens to be a building products. But fundamentally, it's a product which measures something. It has software. We understand the business model extremely well. And our confidence factor that business will perform well in 2027 is very high.
It's helpful, Vimal. So maybe just moving to aerospace for a minute, like if you could just break down your high single-digit growth a little bit more. I think you talked already about defense leading then commercially OE, then aftermarket. But aftermarket, as you know, has been strong for a while. So why can't it still be strong? And when I think about defense, are there multiple drivers for both the U.S. and international. So they're about even? Like how do you think about that?
So between the 3 segments, near term, the defense is the strongest growth. It will be high single to low double-digit growth in 2026. I think demand remains very strong, both in U.S. and international. Business jet, which is a big part of Honeywell portfolio is growing low to mid-single digit, too. So we do super midsize because within the BGA, there are multiple segments. So we primarily play in super midsize, which is working well for us. And then commercial aftermarket is growing mid- to high single. It's more getting synchronized with the overall growth.
So overall, when you do the math, defense is more favorable in '26 compared to other segments. And we do remain confident of delivering high single-digit growth this year. I think the only gating factor in such a high demand-driven end market is how much we can produce. And we have delivered 15 quarters in a row, double-digit volume growth. But for us to deliver our numbers, we have to do 15 more quarters the same. It just -- and the base keeps growing. If you produce 100, 100 became 110, then it became 120. 10% on 120, now it's 130. So supply chain has to keep producing more perpetually forever. So that's only one variable in this business if -- how we develop our supply base, overarching supply chain capabilities. And I think that's what the Aero team is singularly focused on all the time.
But Vimal, it does seem like the Aero team has begun to really get on top of the supply chain stuff. It's not done yet, obviously, but like it seems like it's -- because you've -- the sentiment from you guys has changed a bit from tariffs, I feel like, where you're now talking about margin expansion visibly in that business. So it feels like it's that. It's CAES getting higher margin. Anything else I'm missing like [indiscernible] change?
Essentially, the -- there were some -- '25 was a bit of a unique here because we were passing through an acquisition. So CAES acquisition had an integration-related cost. We also had a unique year of tariff showing up on April, and many Aero contracts do not allow tariffs pass-through. So we have to just deal with that. OE mix was still unfavorable to a certain degree.
So I think if you pass back to [ not '25 to road to '26 ], tariffs have become a new baseline. So we don't have to deal with that headwind anymore. CAES acquisition has largely been integrated. Supply chain-related investments have stabilized. So all factors are more favorable for margin expansion. The only variable actually for us, whether margin expansion will be the low end of our guide of 20% or high end of our guide 50%, is a mix of the shipments. What shipments go to which customer, which is driven by supply chain constraint. If we knew that finally, we can actually make it very, very precise. That variable is really the determining factor that whether it be the upper end of the guide or be on the lower end of the guide. But the fundamentals are very, very robust for us to drive margin expansion because the headwinds are behind us.
And just the commercial OE sort of customer agreements that you're sort of negotiating, can they be another opportunity for pricing and margin uplift?
Longer term, yes, not in 2026. I think these contracts are long-term contracts, and they will play out for aerospace margin expansion from '27 onward. They are -- this is not one contract. These are multiple. These are not commercial OE. There are some in business jets, too. And as these contracts due for renewal, that provides us an opportunity to mitigate some of the past cost of inflation, how do we recover that, pricing opportunities. So overarching basis, yes, that's an additional tailwind, which will start playing into the business from '27 onwards.
And just quickly on free cash flow. Like when you think about sort of 90% free cash flow conversion ex pension, 14% free cash flow margin, those are good metrics. But like as you become CEO of the RemainCo, do you think about -- is there anything stopping you from 100%?
I mean if you -- answer is no, but we have to remember that we have a noncash pension income as part of our earnings. We haven't really decided that it will be included or excluded. That's still in work in progress. But excluding pension income, I think high 90s will be the new baseline for RemainCo. There's no reason -- you're absolutely right. We are a light capital business. So pretty much all income flows into cash. The working capital investments are flattish. We maintain our inventory quite well. So yes, our conversion rate should be very robust moving forward.
Last question, Vimal. I ask you this every year. What are the top 2 or 3 innovations and structural changes affecting your company over the next 5 years? And are there any emerging industry trends that are perhaps overlooked in the current discourse?
I mean I think we talked about the structural changes to me are 3 from business I lead. First, we talked about inflation, so I don't have to. I think structural change. And what we need to think about is how does the industry deal with 3% inflation perpetually, right? It's going to be -- you have to be just not wash it over. We just need to be more thoughtful about it.
I think geopolitical circumstances are certainly something to be dealt by a global company. Our RemainCo has 60% non-U.S. revenue. So we certainly need to stand up in these and make sure that we are local for local in every part of the world. And the biggest opportunity upside for us is how automation business will become an autonomous build, more towards autonomy. And I really feel excited that the timing is very good because automation systems create a lot of data, but their data is used to solve a defined problem. It's a rule-based system. How do you make a rule-based system to a gold-based system is going to be autonomy. So every time I look at a Waymo car, it reminds me that if a car could be autonomous, a building can be autonomous, an industrial plant can be autonomous. They have really solved a very hard problem. So we can do the same thing for the sectors we serve, and that creates a big opportunity for the RemainCo to transform the sector we operate in and create opportunity for our shareholders.
Well, we're going to talk about that very soon, Vimal. So appreciate the time. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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Honeywell International — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
Honeywell International — Citi's Global Industrial Tech & Mobility Conference 2026
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzfassung: Momentum aus 2025 setzt sich 2026 fort; Management betont Fokus durch Spin-offs und ein schlankeres „RemainCo“ mit klarer Automation‑Strategie. Long‑cycle‑Nachfrage (Aero, LNG, Rechenzentren) stark, Petrochemie‑Katalysatoren bleiben schwach; Guidance soll erreichbar sein, Management strebt oberen Bereich an.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Fokus: Aufteilung in drei Einheiten schafft strategische Klarheit; RemainCo wird reines Automation‑Unternehmen mit stärkerer Service-/Aftermarket‑Orientierung.
- Kapazität: Backlog für LNG bis Ende 2027/Anfang 2028; Ausbau (z. B. LNG‑Werk 2x) und Aero‑Kapazitätserhöhungen laufen, Wachstum aber durch Kapazitätsgrenzen limitiert (≈12–14% q/q in Aero möglich).
- Produkt & Preis: NPI (New Product Introduction) als Wachstumstreiber, Pricing‑Leitplanke 3–4% (Inflation 3–3,5%), plus Productivity‑Programme und Installations‑Mining über Forge.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Quantinuum: Hardware‑Durchbruch: Plattform (Nov 2025) mit 48 logischen Qubits bei >99% Fidelity; Ziel ≈100 logische Qubits in ~12 Monaten — kommerzielles Momentum und intensivere Kundenverträge; Honeywell hält ~52% und investiert ca. $250 Mio/Jahr.
- Data Center: Standardisierungsdruck der Hyperscaler; neues Self‑Commissioning reduziert Inbetriebnahme von Wochen auf Tage (Pilot live).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Backlog‑Conversion: Kernfrage war, ob Aufträge in Umsatz übergehen — Antwort: ja, aber durch Kapazitätsgrenzen gestaffelt; Umsatzwachstum folgt Lieferkapazität.
- Pricing vs. Volumen: Analytiker fragten zu Preiselastizität und Dynamic Pricing; Management setzt auf höhere Kommunikation, Elastizitätsanalyse und Produktwert statt reiner Preiserhöhungen.
- Quantum‑Zeithorizont: Nachfrage/Use‑Case‑Entwicklung wird als 3‑Jahres‑Fenster dargestellt (nicht 10+ Jahre); Hardware ist da, Use‑Cases müssen validiert werden.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Bedeutung: Call bestätigt, dass Honeywell als fokussiertes Automation‑RemainCo strukturell robuster sein kann: Long‑cycle‑Backlog und NPI‑/Aftermarket‑Strategie stützen Wachstum und Margen, Quantinuum bietet signifikantes optionales Upside. Hauptrisiken bleiben Kapazitätsengpässe, endmarktseitige Schwäche (Europa/China) und Timing bei Catalyst‑Nachfrage bzw. Quantum‑Monetarisierung.
Honeywell International — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
1. Question Answer
Well, thanks, everyone, for being here. It's my pleasure to have up next, Vimal Kapur, Chairman and Chief Executive of Honeywell. Thanks very much for being here, Vimal.
Maybe we'll just start off with the broad demand backdrop. I think there's a lot of enthusiasm among investors about the prospects for industrial pickup in the U.S. Maybe any thoughts around what you're seeing on that front? And then on the sort of traditionally strong areas like aerospace demand, any thoughts around that?
I mean demand, I would say, in the U.S. from '25 to '26 as the calendar has turned, we have not observed any significant change. The aero demand remains very, very strong. So we expect another strong year for Aerospace in 2026. The demand for building automation remains, again, strong for us. Industrial Automation business also actually in North America is doing very well. Our challenge is the business has a higher mix of Europe and China content and there, the markets are not as favorable. So net-net, it becomes more flat to slightly negative. But North America is doing extremely well for Industrial Automation.
I think the only part of Honeywell portfolio, where we see less demand is in energy sector where the demand for short cycle is at best flat and the process markets, customers' willingness to invest due to various reasons, overcapacity and other drivers essentially that's how we guided the Process segment to be more flattish in 2026. So -- but I mean, if I take the larger picture, there are more positives, very limited negative and the negative being more flattish versus things shrinking.
Great. And as you said, Aerospace and Building seems in good shape. In the other areas, what's kind of the main gating factor you think holding back customer investment?
I think, as I said, in Industrial Automation, our business is now much more around sensing and measurement aircraft, different sectors. And it's much more short cycle business. So it's much more linked to local economy. And as I mentioned, we have an exposure to China, and that's probably not growing. And Europe is more flattish. And if your business has a large exposure to those two geographies, that's basically -- it's much more -- it's not that we have any other drivers apart from that.
I think the real change for us is the process market where, at one end, you have a high demand in LNG, on other end -- and also in refining, actually, people are putting more capacity in refining, not in the U.S., but in other parts of the world, but there's no -- there's excess capacity of petrochemicals that is driving lack of any investment and cautiousness across the board on willingness to invest even short cycle and that's putting more, I would say, flattish growth in the Process segment.
So to me, it's a cycle. How long will overcapacity remain? Our guide suggests it will remain for all of '26 and therefore, we have guided the way it is. But if things go better, clearly, we will have a better performance in the year ahead.
Perfect. And orders are something that Honeywell historically didn't talk too much about firm-wide. You started to mention it more on the last couple of earnings calls. The very strong orders you had second half of last year, I guess, to what degree do you think those are sustainable into this year? And are you seeing any kind of pattern towards, say, longer-dated orders, which a lot of other companies seem to have seen?
I think the orders trend was very robust in the second half of the year, as you mentioned correctly. And we expect, as I said, I haven't seen any change occurring in '26 so far. Those trends will change. Surprisingly enough, the Process Automation and Technology Process segment, where we are forecasting a flattish revenue, our backlog is up double digit. But the cycle time of those projects actually turn is 12, 18, 24 months. So the turn cycle remains longer and we will see more uplift in the orders there and the revenue there in the second half of the year. But even in Q1, we are expecting another strong quarter for Process Automation and Technology.
So the backlog keeps building, but it's more long cycle to your question, are people placing orders more ahead. Part of it is, in some segments, there is a more demand than the capacity. Like LNG, for example, we have booked for next 2 years, probably 2.5 years. So we'll -- it just -- if more demand comes, then we are booked for like 3 years, as we just keep pushing to the right. But the demand in Aero continues to be strong, demand in Building Automation continues to be strong.
So long-cycle demand remains very, very robust. It's a short cycle, which we talked earlier, has some bit of variability either by the end market or geography in particular, China.
Great. And if you look at kind of the cadence of sales growth through this year, first quarter starts a little bit lower than the balance of the year. I guess, what's the confidence that the sales growth picks up the next few quarters? How much of that is already in backlog and that type of thing.
So most of our -- I mean, I think typically second half tends to be slightly bigger than the first half. That's very traditional. So this year guide is not substantially different. I think the only difference is that in the Process segment, we have forecasted higher revenue in the second half versus first half. That's because we have a higher backlog. These are all firm projects. These are not wins. These are purchase orders and the timing of their execution is in Q3 and Q4 versus Q1 and Q2.
So I don't see in the guide. So I think the guide if you see 3% to 6%, the variability here will be how some of the short cycle will perform. And if short cycle remains stable, the way it was in '25, then we have a scenario here on being on the upper end of the guide. If things become change and different in some direction, then we will be in the lower end of the guide. Obviously, we are working hard to be in the upper end of the guide. We're not going to stop there. So repeating 2026 -- 2025 revenue growth is possible, and we have guided that. I mean we are not saying that's not possible. But 45 days into the year, probably too early to put your hands on to it and give a firm commitment.
Yes. And when we think about the cost and price environment, how easy is it to pass on higher costs to customers? Is there any kind of price fatigue that you're seeing in customers?
Look, one thing which probably will all have to internalize is that industrial economy has become high inflationary now. This is -- '26 will be the third year in a row in which we are talking of the price of the order of 3%, maybe even 3%, 4% range. We did that in 2025. We did that in 2024. So we will be doing in 2026, yes. I mean I don't see any concern. But my foundational concern is that longer term, industrial markets have become more inflationary. Honeywell buys 3 broad things: electronics, commodities and labor. Electronics cost is going up with a shortage of semiconductor, memory that obviously increases input costs. Commodity prices keep going up due to constraint while there's a lot of commentary on rare earth, but price of copper is going up, price of zinc is going up.
We use our precious metals in manufacturing of catalysts. Those prices have gone up by 75%, 100%, and the labor cost is going up. So what we really -- what I really think about it is that how you deal with that in a 3- to 5-year horizon versus 2026. 2026 will just pass through. But 2027 and '28 is ahead of us. So how should we think about it? So fundamentally, we're doing 3 things differently. First is making inflation and pricing as a constant dialogue with our customers and our channel partners.
I don't remember, I've been working for nearly 4 decades. We don't go and meet with a customer and start talking about inflation. That's not -- you talk about your business and your next product and opportunities. And now we talk about inflation as a standard. It helps to condition the whole system. And it allows us to have a step-based approach to pricing changes, so nobody is shocked. So that's certainly a change.
Second change is that how we manage our elasticity. It means that while inflation is a reality, productivity has to play and how we make sure that productivity offsets inflation so that we have optionality of pricing to maintain our volumes, because if you have to grow in the upper end of our 2026 guide to 6%, I need 3% volume, and that volume protection has to happen through elasticity analysis. So certainly, there's an element of that sophistication, which has entered into our operating model.
And last but not the least, which is very important, is how we create new products, which create more value. So the pricing is less of a dialogue because I'm creating more economic value, the outcome is creating more opportunities for my channel partners, my OE customers or my end customers, they're less debating on this is 5% expensive than the previous version because they are saving money, their revenue is increasing. So new product has to become a much more integral part of the equation.
So there is no real -- I think the operating model essentially has evolved compared to what it was. And I do believe that inflation is very, very sticky. It's very stubborn. I have no data point to tell you in '27, it won't be another 3% or 4%. It's just foundational elements are not going to change. Therefore, we have to be far more proactive to think about '27, '28 today versus thinking about it at the close of the year. And we're getting more sophisticated about that.
That's interesting. And on the point around new products is one way to push price and innovation. There's often a concern among investors, in the past, did Honeywell underinvest? Does it need to step up investments to get more new products and take share back? Kind of what are your thoughts around that in Aerospace and in the automation company?
No, I think that's something which is definitely a perception, which we have been trying to -- specifically for Aerospace since the Paris Air Show, we've been trying to showcase the data that our R&D spend is actually at a median or above median of the industry. And we did have some course corrections in 2025 on R&D spend. So we are much more levelized now. Honeywell is like close to 5% now, 4.8%, 4.9%. So we are already above median for automation and for aerospace. So we don't have to rerate ourselves to spend more money. However, we have to spend that money wisely, just because you have the right amount, it doesn't mean you will give the right results. But fundamentally, from a financial perspective, we are in a good spot. And you would not see any change in our margin rates in 2026 because now we're investing further more in R&D. I think that stabilization has occurred. If any, it will be a minor 10 basis point bouncing around here and there, but nothing material moving forward.
And when you think about the automation side of things in particular, you mentioned inflation pressures could be here for some years. Are there things you're doing differently on the cost base now as you think about the next few years? There will be stranded costs from the spin, but maybe some other measures as well.
I mean the stranded cost is the nature of any separation. So that's a reality. And our goal is that the stranded cost is taken out in about 12 to 18 months from the date of separation, which will happen in Q3. So this time next year, I should be reporting to you that stranded cost is almost done or will be done shortly. So I think we already have a plan, but we cannot execute the plan because we are still one company. So it's a little bit of a challenging task that you can't take people out just because you think there's a stranded cost ahead because you're still $140 billion business as it exists today.
More forward speaking, I would say that RemainCo Honeywell Automation, which I will lead, our corporate cost will not be any different as a percentage of revenue, what it is today. So we are working towards that stranded cost elimination, which will happen, I would say, 12 to 18 months of time. So I don't see that being a headwind or a tailwind either way. I think it's just going to be a transitionary period in which it will just get eliminated.
Longer term, cost has to play an important role in margin expansion. And we need to watch to make sure that the margin expansion levers, the cost the fixed cost leverage remains an important element. And certainly, using more and more tools like -- I think AI is a great tool to drive productivity and how we use more of that into our operating system, into our operating model and that productivity then helps us to keep our fixed costs flat, but also gives us leverage on pricing. That has to be an important element of it. So I'm a big believer of keeping fixed costs fixed and volume leverage should then show up in terms of the pricing gain or margin gains.
And when we think about that kind of margin expansion entitlement at the automation company, is it sort of similar to that 50 bps or so annually that Honeywell itself has often talked about?
Yes. I mean, look, our goal will be that as a RemainCo, we have to compete for shareholder retention with others. So we need to have an earnings growth, which is compelling. We cannot come and talk about an earnings growth, which is not first or second quartile. We -- I recognize the fact that we are not a singular factor linked company like we're not a data center linked company or a utility linked company, where you have much more broader secular trends. And therefore, we are happy to be second quartile versus being the first quartile, which means we have to be high single digit in a typical year through the cycle without dividend and without any M&A, I'm just saying organically, which defines then the basics of what we really have to do. We have to drive a revenue growth of mid-single. We have to drive margin expansion, something close to 30 to 50 basis points, which gives us a high single earnings growth in a typical year through the cycle. And that's what we are working towards.
I mean, if you ask my confidence factor is very high because fundamentally, this is how we are constructed. And -- but of course, there's work to be done as we proceed. And more to come in Investor Day, I'm not trying to set up a guide for what the new company will look like, but more thinking about -- if we do not have a goal, we don't know what we are working towards. So this is our goal. We are working towards this direction. We need to turn that into an actual performance through every quarter and every year.
And you mentioned just while on the subject, sort of the high single-digit organic profit growth aspiration for Automation Co. It will get a good amount of cash from Aerospace upon spin. Any early thoughts on sort of acquisition appetite? You've done a fair number of deals a lot more than in the previous few years since you became Chief Executive. What's the appetite to kind of keep going on M&A?
I mean near-term focus is for us to retire our debt so that we maintain our investment-grade rating. It's critical for us for -- we are A2-rated company, and I and Mike want us to be -- remain an investment grade because that's one of the feature of Honeywell, we want to absolutely protect. So '26 probably is going to be more dominant because we are focused on spin and protecting our credit rating on investment grade. But moving forward, absolutely, I think we'll like to build a great franchise of pure-play automation and create more bolt-on acquisition in each of the 3 end markets we serve, which is process, building and industrial.
There's an opportunity in each one of them on the bolt-ons. And we have proven already that all the acquisitions we have done, all of them are performing above economic rate of returns, what we had modeled for, which shows that we are doing acquisitions, which are by strategy. They are very targeted. We know how to operate in those markets. These are not random ideas while acquiring in things like LNG, made 2 acquisitions, made a lot of investment in security. We believe world will have more security threats, whether it's cyber or others. In case of aerospace, we made 2 acquisitions in defense.
So everything is looked to certain broad driver, which we believe in. And then we are investing into a property and bolt-on to one of our existing businesses. So I think that fundamental premise will remain. One area where I will do more work is industrial automation. At the exit once we complete separation of the 2 businesses, which are under transaction right now, will become a pure-play sensing and measurement business. And I truly believe that there's an opportunity to create a new category of sensing and measurement in industrials because there's no one large player who exist. It's a fragmented market, and we have already proven in building automation that we can create scale in fragmented market.
We want to create the same scale now in industrial automation. We're starting from a good base. We have a $4 billion of sensing and measurement business. That's not small. These are all products which are mission-critical. These are all regulated products. And we like that kind of high quality because it's high-margin business, high cash flow. Now can we add more to our current position in sensing and gas detection, in metering. We have a lot of good positions and leading positions. So that will be one of the focus area that we grow from our current position to go to the next level. But it doesn't mean we won't acquire or to consider opportunities in buildings or in process. But all things being equal, we will be more biased to grow our industrial automation space and make it more meaningful part of Honeywell.
Great. And on the buildings front, as you said, it's grown well above most peers in the sort of 18 months now. Do you think it can carry on growing at a decent rate, assuming no big macro changes?
Fundamentally, what we are doing there is in the business, two very foundational things. First is mixing the business towards end markets, which are growing faster. And the 4 end markets, which are our focus is, one, of course, is data centers. We started from a very modest position. Hospitality, you'll be surprised how many hotel rooms are coming in the world. They are staggering. They're never seen kind of numbers. So that's a big focus for us, hospitals. And then the fourth vertical we talk call is clean tech. It means you need manufacturing environment to make a control environment. So battery manufacturing, semiconductor, you need to maintain humidity and temperature to make the product.
So these 4, we're increasing our mix. So that's one -- these markets are growing at high single to low double. So that's strategy one. So more mix of our business increases here, more we will grow. Strategy two is do new products to keep share or gain share. And clearly, the new product strategy is working, and we are broadly gaining share for 5 quarters in a row. Now somebody questioned that if we have been growing high single for 5 quarters in a row, why you guide mid-single? Because you cannot be assuming you'll keep gaining share. So you want to act as a more pragmatic to say somebody will catch up with us and we'll get back to market. But we are putting every action to keep gaining share. And it's a model in which we compete with local players in every market. Building automation, our key players are geographic.
We have different competition in U.S. versus Europe versus China. And we have a scale position at a global level while we compete with local players. That model is really helping us to keep propelling our new products to compete effectively. And we'll see. I mean we have guided mid-single-digit plus. The indications are so far that our momentum is with us. And I haven't seen, as I said before, that things will change and -- but we'll see how we perform by end of the year.
Great. And then switching to Aerospace for a minute. I think there's questions around potential margin pressure as you get this ramp-up in commercial OE rates. Does that cause accelerated kind of retirements of existing very profitable aftermarket platforms? So maybe any thoughts around the margin pressure there, particularly as you sound more confident on Aero margin expansion now than a year ago?
Yes. So we have been bouncing around 26% margin rates for the last 2 years. I think this year, we believe that margins will move up in range with the Honeywell guide. And essentially, there are 4 things which are changing in the business now through the cycle. OE mix is [ more ] normalizing. We had outsized OE mix. So our OE mix is synchronizing with the growth rate. So still 9% or 10% growth even if you take high single digit, OE mix is not more 15% or 20% growth. So that's normalization of that. That's factor 1.
Factor 2 is just a mathematical. We did acquisition, large acquisition. It had a negative impact to the integration cost that's behind us. So that's simply a math. Third is supply chain cost has peaked out. And as volumes keep growing, now we will start slowly seeing the volume leverage, even though not substantially, but it's no more a headwind, which was a headwind for '23 and '24, even part of 2025.
And last but not the least, we had lagging effect of tariff in 2025. Aero industry has long-term contracts and OE contracts do not allow price pass-through that will become less of a factor in 2026 because of the renewal of the contracts and others. So I think as you start adding these factors together, things are -- the headwinds have become neutralized or slightly tailwinds. So we will see margin progression in '26. We'll see margin progression in '27.
So business is set up, I mean, for high single-digit growth and a small margin expansion every year for next several years ahead of us. So it's extremely well positioned.
And when you talk about the programs on the last point and the inability to pass through, so you wait for the program renewals, kind of how -- is it possible to scale how important that program renewal element is?
It is. I mean, we are negotiating as just a matter of natural course, our OE contracts both in commercial and business jets come for renewal. So we have several of those under works in 2026. But large impact of that will be observed from '27 onwards. There will be some favorable impact in '26, but larger impact from '27 onwards, which gives that was the point I'm making, while we will expand margins in '26, but '27 again. So the fundamentals are becoming more favorable. We had a unique position of a lot of headwinds coming together, and those headwinds are neutralized or becoming more of a tailwind now, this being a tailwind in this case.
And people often ask ahead of spins around kind of stand-up costs and that type of thing. How confident are you that Aerospace will be set up with stand-up costs that are sort of reasonably measured?
It will be in parity with the rest of the market. We have basically said 150 to 250 basis points in that range. Obviously, we want to do at the lower end versus higher end and that will be known when the spin is created. We do not see the stand-up costs creating any disadvantage for Aerospace. Fundamentally, it will be in line. And we have most -- we announced all the leadership team for Aerospace. So that's done.
We are actually doing this week, the larger Honeywell [ Org ] announcement of separation between Aerospace and rest of Honeywell because that work has to start, right? And it's a machine -- people have to be told what's your new role. So actually, we're doing it as we speak so that people are prepared for what's coming ahead of them. So yes, but we are confident that the cost basis will be in parity with the market. It will not be either a tailwind or a headwind.
Great. And then when we're thinking about a couple of other kind of spin-related elements, the apportionment of kind of a pension between the 2 sides. And then any differences around free cash flow conversion or free cash margin that you'd emphasize?
The pension will be -- Honeywell pension is overfunded by nearly 40%. So we are going to equally separate the pension. It's equitable distribution between the 2 entities. So it will evenly split. Net of pension income, which is noncash, both businesses are high 90% free cash flow conversion. I mean I'm very confident about Automation. It's a low CapEx intensity business. And we -- our investments are more organic in R&D, et cetera. But Aerospace is also very well positioned because the inventory cycle peaking.
'26 will be the first year when inventory actually will reduce after probably 4 or 5 years. Now our days of supplies have reduced because our revenue has increased, but absolute dollars inventory is also becoming favorable, which [ begs ] well for the free cash flow conversion. So I mean, short answer is both businesses are well positioned for 90% free cash flow conversion, 90% plus the noncash income of pension.
Fantastic. Well, unfortunately, I think we have to move now away from the Q&A towards audience response questions. So if we could bring up the first question, please, just on current ownership of Honeywell shares. So 80% no for the time being.
Second question is around general bias or attitude to Honeywell at present. So slightly positive starting point.
Next question, please. This is around kind of through cycle EPS growth. Is this for now for total company against broad industrial peers? So kind of in line with the peer set.
And very quickly, Vimal, on that point on, say, Aerospace growth, how do you think about organic growth there as the sort of medium term in type of...
High single-digit, I would say, through cycle. The demand is so high. It's constrained. It's -- I wish there is a business in which you're constrained by supply side and not by demand side. It's a massive challenge. We have been growing our volume by double digit for like 15 quarters in a row. But -- so that's a good news. The bad news is they have to do for 15 more quarters in a row, and it's just hard, just making so much products, physical products. These are large APUs and engines and avionics. These are not easy to make products. So -- but I think a very capable team, and they will deliver on that growth.
Perfect. And then next question, please. What should Honeywell do with excess cash? So this leans more towards the automation company post spin? Okay. So it's a bit of a mishmash. I suppose, debt paydown and internal investment.
And then I think the penultimate question is around the valuation. So the next question, please. Where should I guess, total Honeywell for now trade on this year's earnings? So around kind of 20x, it seems.
And the last question is kind of why -- what's the biggest factor holding back your view of why it doesn't deserve a higher multiple, let's say? So organic growth, the biggest question, presumably at RemainCo. Great. Well, with that, thanks very much, Vimal for being here.
Thank you. Julian.
Thank you. It's lovely to see you again.
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Honeywell International — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
Honeywell International — Barclays 43rd Annual Industrial Select Conference
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Vimal Kapur skizziert ein überwiegend positives Bild: Aerospace und Building bleiben Treiber, Industrial Automation stark in Nordamerika, das Process‑Segment bleibt 2026 flach wegen globaler Überkapazitäten. Prioritäten: Spin (Q3), aktive Preis‑ und Produktstrategie gegen anhaltende Input‑Inflation und Schutz der Investment‑Grade‑Bonität.
⚡ Strategische Highlights
- Preisstrategie: Inflation wird zur Standard‑Diskussion mit Kunden; stufenweise Preisanpassungen und Elastizitätsanalysen, um Volumen zu schützen.
- F&E‑Fokus: R&D stabilisiert sich bei ~4,8–4,9% des Umsatzes (oberes Median‑Segment); Investitionen sollen wertschöpfende Produkte priorisieren.
- Spin & M&A: Trennung Q3 geplant; kurzfristig Priorität auf Schuldenabbau und Investment‑Grade; später gezielte Bolt‑on‑Zukäufe, v.a. im Bereich Sensing & Measurement.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Guidance & Backlog: Unternehmensleitlinie 2026 mit ~3–6% Umsatzwachstum bestätigt; Process‑Backlog ist zweistellig gewachsen, viele Projekte mit 12–24 Monaten Laufzeit (Umsatzwirkung H2).
- Spin‑Timing: Trennung geplant für Q3; Stand‑up/stranded costs sollen in 12–18 Monaten abgebaut werden.
- Bilanz/CF: Pensionen überfinanziert (~40%); beide Einheiten peilen >90% Free‑Cash‑Flow‑Conversion an.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Orders: Nachfrageanstieg H2 2025 war stark; Management sieht bisher keine Verschlechterung 2026, nennt aber bei Short‑Cycle‑Geschäften geografische Risiken (China, Europa).
- Inflation & Preise: Analysten fragten nach Preisakzeptanz; Management erläuterte Preisdialog, Produktwert und Produktivität als Hebel, blieb aber vage zur kurzfristigen Volumenwirkung.
- Margins & Aero: Diskussion zu OE‑Mix, Vertrags‑Renewals und Stand‑up‑Kosten; Management erwartet moderate Margenverbesserungen, nannte aber keine detaillierten Quartals‑Breakdowns.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Solide, aber nicht risikofreie Story: Aerospace und Building treiben Wachstum; Process ist taktisches Risiko. Wichtige Beobachtungspunkte für Aktionäre: Backlog‑Konversion (H2), saubere Spin‑Execution (Q3), Free‑Cash‑Flow und Schuldenabbau. Kurzfristig begrenzter Upside‑Katalysator, langfristig value‑orientiertes Profil bei erfolgreicher Umsetzung.
Honeywell International — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's call is being recorded.
I would now like to hand the call over to Sean Meakim, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings and 2026 Outlook Conference Call. On the call with me today are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Vimal Kapur; and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak, as well as Mark Macaluso, who will be leading Investor Relations for Honeywell going forward.
This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website. From time to time, we post new information that may be of interest or material to our investors on this website. Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to risks and uncertainties including the ones described in our recent SEC filings.
This morning, we'll review our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2025 and discuss our guidance for the first quarter and full year 2026. As a reminder, we began reporting Advanced Materials as discontinued operations beginning in the fourth quarter of 2025, following the successful spin of Solstice Advanced Materials on October 30, 2025. The fourth quarter results we present today exclude Solstice. As always, we will leave time for your questions at the end.
With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Vimal, who will begin on Slide 3.
Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. Honeywell delivered a strong fourth quarter to close 2025, exceeding our expectations for both adjusted sales and adjusted EPS, with orders up 23%, driving our backlog to over $37 billion, this performance reinforces the strength of our end market positions and execution. We exited the year with a sales growth of 6%, excluding the impact of 2024 Bombardier agreement which demonstrates the outcome of our portfolio actions and our emerging focus on innovation stemming from continued investment in R&D. This gives us conviction in another year of meaningful top and bottom line growth of 2026.
Looking ahead, we expect to once again drive strong organic growth fueled by conversion of our record backlog, disciplined price execution and momentum in new product introductions. The strong organic growth, coupled with productivity and an aggressive reduction in stranded costs related to the spins, will enable us to deliver 6% to 9% earnings growth in 2026, along with accelerating cash generation.
It was about a year ago that we announced our intention to spin off Aerospace, which will result in creation of 3 leading pure-play independent public companies. We have made tremendous progress throughout the year with the Advanced Materials spin complete and we now expect to complete the Aerospace spin in the third quarter of 2026. Both Aerospace and Automation will host Investor Day in June, and I hope many of you can join us then. Our teams are working around the clock to ensure this gets done as quickly and judiciously as possible, and I want to thank all our employees for their commitment and dedication to this process. We also remain very excited about the progress at Quantinuum on key technological and commercial milestones that position the business to lead the way in quantum computing. I will talk more about Quantinuum and its progress in a few minutes.
2026 will be exciting year as we move forward the final stages of our portfolio simplification. This positions each business with the right strategic focus, organizational agility and tailored capital allocation strategies needed to grow faster and drive incremental value for our all stakeholders.
Let's now turn to Slide 3 to discuss the latest update on our portfolio transformation. As I mentioned, we are progressing faster than originally anticipated on our separation milestones. On October 30, Solstice began trading as an independent public company and we now expect the Aerospace to occur in quarter 3. To that end, we announced the Aerospace leadership team last week comprised of tenured aerospace veterans and made key Board appointments to bring extensive operating experience to our teams. Jim Currier, who was served as President and CEO of Honeywell Aerospace at the time of separation, will be joined by Josh Jepsen, who will serve as Chief Financial Officer. Additionally, we announced that Craig Arnold, the former Chairman and CEO of Eaton Corporation, will serve as non-executive Chair of Honeywell Aerospace Board of Directors. Craig brings more than 2 decades of experience in leadership roles at industrial and tech businesses where he delivered transformational results through operational excellence and disciplined capital allocation.
Together, Craig, Jim and Josh bring the right mix of industry, company and capital market experience to maximize the value for our customers, partners, employees and our shareowners. We're also excited to welcome Indra Nooyi, Former Chair and CEO of PepsiCo to Honeywell's Board of Directors, further strengthening our team with a prudent track record of leading diverse global businesses and accelerating long-term growth.
Beginning in 2026, we reorganized Honeywell segment into more simplified structure focused on cohesive, synergetic business model. Moving forward, we'll be reporting 4 segments: Aerospace Technologies, Building Automation, Process Automation and Technology and Industrial Automation, the 3 automation reporting segments will be organized into 6 strategic business units enable us to better solve customer challenges and deliver in-house outcomes with Honeywell Forge platform.
Finally, we concluded the strategic review of productivity solution and services and warehouse and workflow solutions and have announced that we intend to pursue a sale of both businesses in first half of 2026. All of these actions position both aerospace and automation for a strong beginning as new industry-leading public companies in 2026.
Let's turn to Slide 4 to discuss the recent advancements of Quantinuum. Following the recent raising in which Quantinuum raised approximately $840 million at a $10 billion pre-money valuation, the pace of both technological and commercial progress that Quantinuum is rapidly increasing. Close cabinet shareowners as Quanta -- such as Quanta, NVIDIA, JPMorgan, Amgen and Mitsui have led to new commercial partnership that are supporting the development of critical applications for improving drug recovery, cybersecurity and encryption for large financial institution.
In November, Quantinuum announced the launch of Helios, the world's most accurate commercial quantum computer, which nearly doubles the qubit count of its predecessor H2, and we believe sets a new standard for quantum computing performance with the highest futility for quantum computing qubits ever released in the market. Helios groundbreaking design and advanced software stack brings quantum programming closer to the ease and flexibility of classical computing, which we believe positions the company to accelerate Quantum's commercial adoption.
Quantinuum also announced a partnership to integrate Helios with NVIDIA's AI supercomputing technology to create powerful new architecture that can solve the world's most pressing challenges. This collaboration between Quantinuum and NVIDIA is creating a future where AI becomes more expansive through quantum computing and quantum computing becomes more powerful through AI. As Quantinuum achieve these important technological and commercial milestone, I am confident of the company's future, and the best is yet to come.
And before Mike talks about 4Q results, let's move to Slide 5 to discuss our recent growth acceleration. This chart demonstrates the recent acceleration in organic growth stemming from a combination of strong end market demand, our portfolio simplification and innovation, this drove a 300 to 400 basis point improvement in LTM average organic growth since the beginning of 2024. As I noted earlier, we see favorable end market dynamics across aerospace and defense, process and building automation. We are enabling this further with an intentional shift to higher-growth verticals.
Our performance simplification efforts are positioning the company towards less cyclical and less capital-intensive markets where we can build our installed base and leverage this to drive software and services growth. This is being compounded by recent acquisition Access solutions, LNG process technology, compressor controlled and defense technology. On innovation, we delivered 4% organic growth from our new product introduction in 2025, with majority coming from innovation in new markets offering as opposed to upgrade on existing core products. This is a direct result of our meaningful step-up in R&D investments in 2025, which continues at each level in 2026 as well as management's focus on growth through new products.
On the people side, we have made concerted effort to enhance our talent pool to drive growth. We added approximately 600 engineers to our workforce in 2025, which has greatly bolstered our R&D capacity and have also allocated the overwhelming majority of R&D to new product development. Additionally, our sales team incentives are now better aligned to our objective of prioritizing the commercialization of new products further reinforcing our plan to drive growth innovation while building stronger customer intimacy.
With that, I will now turn the call over to Mike to go through our fourth quarter results, starting on Slide 6.
Thank you, Vimal, and good morning. We ended the year with robust fourth quarter results. Sales grew 11% organically or 6%, excluding the impact of the 2024 Bombardier agreement, led by double-digit growth in Aerospace and high single-digit growth in Building Automation. We also continue to drive price across the portfolio, as Vimal noted, which contributed roughly 4 percentage points to the top line.
On a segment basis, Aerospace sales grew 11% organically, excluding Bombardier, led by continued strength in both commercial aftermarket and defense and space. Commercial OE growth accelerated as expected from the third quarter as shipments continue to recouple customers' bill rates. Robust demand across all end markets led the third consecutive quarter of strong double-digit order growth and book-to-bill of 1.2. Building Automation grew 8% organically, supported by growth of 9% in Solutions and 8% new products. Regionally, North America and Middle East led to overperformance, with Europe and up strong mid-single digits as well.
Orders increased both year-over-year and sequentially, driven by ongoing momentum across both building solutions and products and highlighted by strength in the projects and fire businesses. Industrial Automation grew for a second consecutive quarter with organic sales up 1% led by Warehouse and Workforce Solutions and Sensing as well as return to growth in productivity solutions and services.
Process Solutions sales were flat as strength in aftermarket services was offset by lower volumes in measurement and controls products. Finally, organic sales in Energy & Sustainability Solutions declined 7%, stemming from lower petrochemical catalyst shipments coming in slightly below our expectations due to continued project deferrals. However, orders momentum in UOP continued with over 40% orders growth in refining and petrochemicals projects, which supports our confidence in a gradual 2026 recovery.
In [ total ], Honeywell orders grew 23% organically after 22% growth in the third quarter, wins in long-cycle aerospace, energy and broad-based demand in building automation led the way, resulting in total book-to-bill above 1 and pushing backlog, up 15% to a new record.
On profitability, adjusted segment profit increased 23% or 2% excluding Bombardier, with segment margin of 22.8%, led by ongoing margin expansion in building automation, partially offset by the timing of high-margin catalyst shipments in ESS and a headwind from a step-up in R&D.
In Aerospace, adjusted segment margin expanded 30 basis points sequentially to 26.5% as we again delivered stronger volumes enabled by supply chain improvements, while in BA, margins expanded 20 basis points year-over-year to 27%, driven by commercial excellence and volume leverage. This was partially offset by declines in IA and ESS, driven principally by a favorable mix from lower catalyst volumes and cost inflation. As a reminder, ESS fourth quarter and full year 2025 results include only the UOP business unit following the fourth quarter reclassification of Advanced Materials to discontinued operations. And this will be the last quarter we present results for ESS.
Adjusted earnings per share of $2.59 was up 17% and down 3% excluding the impact of the Bombardier agreement driven primarily by higher segment profit and a lower share count, overcoming a $0.24 year-over-year headwind from the timing of taxes. You can find additional information on the fourth quarter adjusted EPS bridge in the appendix of our presentation.
Finally, free cash flow of $2.5 billion was up 48% or up 13%, excluding the impact of prior year Bombardier agreement. Growth in free cash flow was driven by higher operational income and collections offset by higher cash taxes and interest payments. On capital deployment, we returned $900 million to shareholders in the quarter through dividends and share repurchases, while funding $300 million in high-return capital projects. We also repaid $2 billion to $3 billion of debt in fourth quarter.
For the full year, sales increased 7% organically or 6% excluding the impact of the Bombardier agreement exceeding the high end of original full year guidance by 2 points. Adjusted segment profit grew 11% or 6% excluding Bombardier, with adjusted segment margin expansion of 40 basis points or contraction of 40 basis points, excluding Bombardier to 22.5%. Adjusted earnings per share was $9.78, up 12% year-over-year or up 7% excluding Bombardier.
Finally, free cash flow was $5.1 billion, up 20% or up 7%, excluding the impact of the Bombardier agreement, representing 14% margin. We put $10 billion to capital in 2025, including $3.8 billion to repurchase [ 18 ] million shares, $2.2 billion to acquisitions, $1 billion to capital expenditures and $3 billion to dividends. We also repaid $3.8 billion of debt to lower interest expense. All in all, a very strong performance to end the year with plenty of momentum heading into 2026.
With that, let's turn to Slide 8 to discuss our 2026 segment outlook. In Aerospace, we expect top line growth in the high single-digit range organically. We anticipate continued end market strength supported by resilient supply chain that continues to grow its output. Commercial OE growth should accelerate in 2026 as we move past customer destocking and ramp our shipments alongside increasing production rates, particularly in commercial air travel. The [ transitory ] space should maintain its momentum as higher global spending drives substantial orders growth and record backlog, steady increases in flight hours in air transport and business jet underpin ongoing commercial aftermarket stream though we expect modest normalization in growth rates from the prior year.
Segment margins should expand modestly as volume leverage, better pricing alignment with tariff costs and papering acquisition integration costs more than offset mix pressure from stronger growth in defense and space and commercial OE. For Building Automation, we expect full year sales growth above mid-single digits highlighted by strength in growing data center and health care end markets. We expect growth to be led by North America and acceleration in Europe on increased investments in health care and organization infrastructure buildup.
For the year, both products and solutions will grow at similar rates. We anticipate BA margin to expand over 50 basis points driven by volume leverage, pricing and productivity actions. Process Automation and technology sales are expected to be roughly flat organically year-over-year. Slower first half growth in petrochemicals and refining should be offset by robust demand in global projects, particularly in life sciences and cybersecurity solutions. We expect margin to be roughly flat with pricing and productivity offsetting material cost inflation.
And finally, in Industrial Automation, we expect sales to be down low single digits to roughly flat with stable growth in Industrial Solutions, offset by headwinds from a challenging prior year comparison in products. Within this framework, we are not assuming any rebound in underlying end market demand. We expect IA fleet margin expansion across all segments in 2026 through meaningful productivity actions and fixed cost reduction.
Let's now turn to Slide 9 to double click on Process Automation & Technology dynamics in 2026. During the second half of 2025, we saw 17% organic orders growth in the new PA&T segment, which led a corresponding 16% rise in the opening backlog. This continues to be a significant part of our long-cycle order strength, particularly in LNG and refining, both in the U.S. and internationally. The backlog growth gives us confidence in an expected second half ramp, especially when measured against our historical backlog conversion rates. When seeing LNG and a number of large module equipment deals are expected to convert to sales in the back half of the year. In addition, we're encouraged by our pipeline in PA&T, which grew high single digits year-over-year, signaling that the strength of long-cycle orders is expected to persist contingent on the base of final investment decisions from our customers.
We are diligently tracking the slower-than-expected aftermarket order rates for catalysts, particularly within petrochemicals, which has been influenced by overcapacity in the market. Catalyst shipments can be temporarily delayed in the short term, but are ultimately necessary for our customers to maintain yields and those can only be deferred for a period of time. While we acknowledge the challenges this business faced in 2025. We're encouraged by orders growth and backlog as well as pent-up catalyst demand that should eventually fuel strong growth as we progress through 2026 and into 2027.
Let's move to Slide 10 to talk further about our expected segment margin expansion for 2026. In 2026, we anticipate the demand for our differentiated, high-value solutions and continued pricing that is outpacing inflation will drive further margin expansion. On a segment basis, we expect improved volume leverage principally in our building automation aerospace technology businesses, which will drive solid incremental margins our PA&T margins will be roughly flat in 2026 due to the impact of stronger projects growth in the second half.
Our focus on productivity action and rigorous fixed cost management will continue in 2026. We're working diligently to rightsize our cost structure ahead of the planned aerospace spin and expect to eliminate the stranded costs in 12 to 18 months after the spin. We have already neutralized the impact of Solstice stranded costs in 2025 through productivity and fixed cost reduction in the rest of the business.
Finally, Quantinuum investments in R&D and technology will be a modest headwind to margin in 2026. As Vimal noted, Quantinuum is making significant commercial and R&D investment to maintain its leadership position in quantum computing.
With that as the backdrop, let's move to Slide 11 to go through the details of our full year 2026 guidance. Before we get into the specifics, I want to point out that our 2026 guidance includes full year outlook for Aerospace, Productivity Solutions and Services and Warehouse and Workflow solutions, and does not incorporate the pending acquisition of Johnson Matthey’s Catalyst Technologies business. We intend to update our outlook when these transactions are complete.
For the full year 2026, we anticipate sales of $38.8 billion to $39.8 billion, up 3% to 6% organically. We expect growth to be led by Aerospace on higher commercial demand and increased defense budgets and building automation driven by new product innovations. This will be partially offset by a slower start to the year in process automation technology, which turns to growth in the second half driven by order visibility and significantly easier comps and mix, regional and end market dynamics in industrial automation.
Segment margins are expected to be up 20 to 60 basis points to 22.7% to 23.1% as the benefits from price execution and productivity actions more than offset cost inflation and roughly 30 basis points headwind from increased investments in Quantinuum. Industrial Automation will lead for the year, driven by targeted fixed cost takeout, followed by Building Automation as higher volumes continue to drive margin expansion. Aerospace margins should expand modestly as volume leverage is partially dampened by mix pressures. Finally, we expect PA&T segment margins to be roughly flat year-over-year with pricing of productivity offsetting material cost inflation. We expect a combination of strong top line growth, coupled with productivity and fixed cost reduction will drive adjusted earnings per share of $10.35 to $10.65, up 6% to 9%.
Our guidance assumes a 1% reduction in share count stemming from share repurchases. As we have signaled, we intend to focus our cost deployment in 2026 on reducing debt ahead of the separation.
Moving to cash. We expect free cash flow of $5.3 billion to $5.6 billion, up 4% to 10%, which represents an approximately 14% free cash flow margin and 83% conversion at the high end or 90% excluding noncash pension income. Capital expenditures anticipated to increase by roughly $250 million to support growth investment attached to orders we already have in [indiscernible]. This increase in spending will be funded by improvements in working capital efficiency with a continued focus on aerospace inventory.
Let's move to Slide 12 to briefly review our full year 2026 EPS bridge. The main takeaway on this slide is that the overwhelming majority of our earnings growth in 2026 is expected to come from segment profit growth, adding approximately $0.64 at the midpoint. We expect to benefit from higher volumes, enhanced productivity and favorable price cost, offset by higher investment in Quantinuum, as I noted. As you can hopefully see, we have fairly clean, high-quality and straightforward path to our 2026 outlook.
A few other points to note. Below the line expenses should be roughly flat year-over-year as higher pension income of approximately $660 million is offset by increased repositioning expenses as we prepare for separation, while net interest expense remains in line with 2025 levels. We expect the tax rate to remain roughly 19% and average shares outstanding to decline approximately 1%, adding $0.08 to earnings per share. Additional below-the-line details are available in the appendix of the presentation.
Now let's turn to Slide 13 to talk briefly about 1Q guidance. We anticipate first quarter organic sales growth of 3% to 5% organically. By segment, we anticipate organic sales growth in aerospace, building automation and industrial automation to look very similar to our full year outlook for these businesses, while process automation technology will be more in line with 4Q '25 levels given the slow start, as mentioned earlier. In addition, we expect to see normal seasonal step down in revenue from 4Q to 1Q, similar to past years.
We expect segment margin to be in the range of 22.4% to 22.6%, flat to up 20 basis points, led by productivity actions in our automation businesses. We anticipate aerospace margins to be down slightly from the prior quarter on seasonally lower volumes. This will drive adjusted earnings per share growth in the first quarter of 2% to 6%. We expect a rough $70 million increase in below the line, driven by higher interest expense from recent acquisition and increased repositioning expense ahead of the separation. Additionally, as we announced last week, following a settlement of all flagship related matters, we made a onetime cash payment of $377 million in the first quarter, which is excluded from our full year free cash flow guidance.
I'll now hand the call back over to Vimal to wrap up before Q&A.
Thank you, Mike. We are pleased with our strong finish to 2025 with adjusted sales and adjusted earnings per share exceeding the high end of our guidance range. This performance underscores the resilience of our business model approach and highlights the growing demand for our innovative solution.
Looking ahead, our guidance for 2026 is underpinned by continued strength in our orders growth price execution and record beginning backlog. As always, our guidance serves as a prudent baseline for performance that we have a strong conviction we can achieve. Moreover, we continue to progress our separation milestone, which we are tracking ahead of plan, paving a clear path for both aerospace and automation to emerge as industry-leading companies in 2026.
We look forward sharing more about our strategy and long-term growth at the upcoming Honeywell Aerospace Investor Day on June 2 and 3 in Phoenix, followed by Honeywell Automation Investor Day on June 11 in New York City. These events will provide an excellent opportunity for us to engage with our investors and showcase the strength of our portfolio.
And before turning to Q&A, I want to take a moment to acknowledge our Head of Investor Relations, Sean Meakim, for all his contribution over the past 4 years. As you know, Sean will be moving to Aerospace with the spinoff to establish another world-class Investor Relations function as he did in Honeywell. He will be an incredible asset to Craig, Jim and Josh as the being their journey as a standalone entity. Sean effectively communicated the vision and value of Honeywell's strategy with credibility and conviction, laying the framework with investors for our emergence post separation. On behalf of the leadership team and shareholders, I want to thank Sean for your dedication and commitment and say that I could not be happier to have you lead the IR function at Honeywell Aerospace. Congratulations. And with that, Sean, let's take questions.
Thanks for the kind words, Vimal. I'm very grateful for the opportunity to lead IR to be part of this team. It's been a great learning experience, and I'm really excited about what's ahead for both Aerospace and Honeywell. Vimal and Mike are now available to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions] Operator, please open the line for Q&A. .
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays.
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Yes, I want to say thank you, Sean, for all the help. If we think about the margin progression, just to try and understand that a little bit more for the total company. So it's sort of flattish year-on-year in the first quarter, picks up steam over the balance of the year. Maybe help us understand how second half weighted that margin acceleration is? And are there any specific items on a segment level driving that, please?
Sure, Julian. Thank you for the question. So we -- on the headline numbers, we're expending 20 to 60. Operationally, we really are expanding margins about 50 to 90 basis points. And we have a little bit of a headwind, about 30 basis points this year from Quantinuum. That headwind is a little bit higher in the first quarter. In the first quarter, we also -- our taxes are the highest, and we're paying our interest expense for the year is the highest. So that's easing. So I think what you'll see from us, 20 bps in the first quarter and then sequentially improving, second half looks much better than the first half.
Julian, what I'll add is that the fundamental playbook which Honeywell always executed on margin expansion, which is price, volume, productivity, that will be in full play this year. We do expect, as Mike mentioned, our operational margins to expand 50 to 90 basis points and invest some money back in Quantinuum. But we are very well programmed to deliver margin expansion as we did in the past, like 2023, we have 100 basis point margin expansion. So we are very confident on delivering our margin expansion for 2026.
And I would just also maybe add that last year, we talked about it, we stepped up on engineering from a R&D standpoint. That's now normalized going into 2026. It's not a headwind for us. And last year, it was about, I think, 50 bps of headwind if you take 2025 as a whole.
That's helpful. And then just a quick follow-up on the Aerospace margins specifically. I think they're starting out the year maybe down a touch year-on-year and then up a few tens of basis points for the year in aggregate. Maybe clarify kind of how you see those mix impacts playing out through the year, and there's been some discussion on commercial OE contract renewal timing and so forth? Is that a factor this year affecting the aero margins at all?
Sure. So maybe I'll just start with the 2025 progression, but I think it's important as you think about 2026. So we entered 2025, and we said we'll finish about 26% for the year. That's exactly what we did and the team did well despite the liberation day having to contend with the tariffs. Largely tariffs are behind us. Going to 2026, price we better for aerospace, acquisition integration costs are abating, that's also a tailwind and supply chains continue to improve. So for 2026, really, to me, it's a margin expansion question is really just a question of how much. And that's a factor of mix and how is mix going to play out in the business as well as how we continue to unlock and scale the supply chain and how the trajectory progresses. But 2026, I fully expect margin expansion in aerospace.
And Julian, to your question on the OE contracts, we are indeed negotiating our contracts with multiple OEs as we peak, both on the commercial side and business jet side. Those are under progress right now. And what I can share you is that longer term, it will play board on quite well for Aerospace margin expansion. Nature of these are long term. So we remain very confident that this going to have a positive impact on our margin expansion story for the business in the times ahead.
And Julian, one last piece I would just add on. Just thinking about the first quarter reminder that Liberation Day was in April. So there's a little bit of lapping where we have that -- a little bit of lag on the pricing impact relative to the tariffs in Aerospace in the first quarter for the OE business. .
Our next question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
So a lot going on here, guys. Quantinuum, you announced, you filed a confidential S-1 earlier this month. Are you fully committed to an IPO at this point? Or is there an option to you bring in a strategic investor? And I just want to make sure we got the right numbers on the investment spending. It looks like is picking up by about $100 million year-over-year. So that would be, what, $250 million of total spend within corporate. I just want to make sure that's the number. And does the free cash flow or rather the cash burn kind of equate to that number as well? .
So I'll start and I'll let Vimal comment on the -- just on the commercial progress, et cetera. But you're exactly right. It's about $100 million year-over-year increase we fully consolidate Quantinuum right now. As you know, our raise was quite successful. So Quantinuum has plenty of cash, but it flows through for Honeywell's preferentials. But it's it's about $100 million year-over-year increase in terms of maturation and commercial efforts that the team is progressing.
And Nigel, you put it well. A lot going on in Honeywell. So we are absolutely working on the Quantinuum lag. What I can share with you is we're obviously seeing the legal restrictions on what we can share. But as a practical matter, the progression on platform continues to be very promising, which is the reason we are investing more R&D dollars to continue to progress to launch the next version of our Quantum machine, which is committed in 2027 time frame. So that's a driver.
And I actually spend a lot of time with the customers now to talk about leveraging Quantum for commercial applications. So think about banks thinks about pharmaceutical companies and think about large government, they're all very interested, given we are coming closer to time to value. And they are also building a leadership team of Quantinuum business, expanding its capability so that it could stand alone as an independent company at the right time. So that's what I can share. I think a lot of wheels in motion, and we continue to work very hard to make it a successful business.
That's very helpful. And then my follow-on is really just wanted to dig into the extraordinary strength in the process orders. Last time we checked in with you guys, you're talking about softness in large project activity that seems to have changed 180. So just -- just wondering what's changed and perhaps a bit more detail on where you're seeing the strength by geography or end market?
Nigel, there are 2 dynamics going on in the market. On the positive side, people are spending capital to build more capacity in LNG and refining that define that showing our orders are so substantially in backlog up by 15%. So that's positive. Those are long cycle and we, therefore, will show more revenue accretion from them in second half of 2026 because the cycle time is 12 to 18 months. So we started lapping up our bookings from quarter 3 of last year and build the backlog, which will convert now Q3 and Q4 of 2026.
On the -- also on the positive side, the LNG business continues to do quite well. Sundyne business we acquired is going to become baseline and organic growth, that's going to help in the second half of the year. On the other side of the ledger, we continue to see pressure on the catalyst demand on petrochemical side. Petrochemical has excess capacity in the world. So our customers are shying to buy more catalysts and also, I would say, in automation side, some of our migration offerings. So there's certainly a slowness there. Our guide doesn't factor any change in that in 2026, I'm not suggesting it won't change, but we are cautious on what we are guiding at this point. And that remains the low point in the business. So strength in long cycle in LNG and refining and weakness in short cycles, specifically in the petrochemical side.
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Davis with Melius Research.
Glad to see the funnel spin-off moving up here. But look, I wanted to talk a little bit about price because forever, Honeywell was kind of a 1% to 2% price company and now the last couple of years, you've been able to capture meaningfully more 4% now, which is still meaningfully more than the peer group average. But what -- can you guys walk through, there's kind of 2 angles here. I mean, one is kind of passing through tariff impacts, and that's not a structural price increase that's more of a pass-through. But can you talk about really how much of this price is kind of a change in pricing strategy, how you guys approach projects, contracts, obviously, new products help, I would imagine. And how much of that 4% is kind of just the run of the mill passing on tariffs.
Yes. Scott, it's a great question. And I think a lot about it on the dynamic. I think fundamentally, the inflation drivers have become more persistent in the markets we serve and I drive the insistent the inflation drivers into 3 buckets. Labor cost is increasing typically 3% to 4%. In a typical year, we have labor shortages. There is enough messaging around that. We also see cost increase in electronics prices. Memory is a new driver now. Of course, it's a small portion of what we buy, but it all starts compounding.
And then commodity prices keep going up. I mean there's a lot of news on gold, but then there's also other commodities, which keep ramping up. So when you put it all together, fundamentally, the inflationary trend in Industrial segment and segment specifically, Honeywell serve, they remain quite persistent. And our pricing strategy, therefore, have become more mature, really to look at as a long-term trend, work with our customers and align with them that what's being ahead and minimize the impact on their businesses to the extent we can and deploy pricing, which is also different by regions. It could be one in U.S., different in Europe, different in other parts of the world, also different for new products because we need to see where we have some leverage there based upon feature function, which are differentiated.
So a lot going on in the pricing front. And I would say 2026 is going to look very similar to 2025 in the same ZIP code. And we spend a lot of time to make sure that the price cost doesn't become a headwind for us, and we do maximum to preserve our volume, while we are preserving our margins.
That's very helpful.
I would just maybe just add that if you look at our portfolio, we've been migrating to high-growth verticals where we can afford better pricing. And we have a bigger step-up in terms of revenue that is generated by NPI and these products tend to be accretive and give us better pricing as well.
Yes. No. And then just the natural follow-up would just be, is there -- you -- when you talk about NPI and you talked about product launches but is there -- do you guys use a vitality index or anything internally in any kind of way to kind of compare that acceleration of NPI versus the past?
Yes, you saw one of the mention of that in our growth acceleration chart in the -- our prepared remarks. One thing we certainly start measuring is how much of revenue in a given year is coming from new products, net new growth coming from new products. And last year, it was approximately 4%. It means our R&D dollars are creating differentiated demand into our offerings, and we are able to either keep share or gain share or able to move to new verticals.
So we are measuring 2 key KPIs. One is vitality. We used to measure that Scott for many years. And what I learned is some of segments, high vitality is just right to play because the turnaround of the price is so fast and if your vitality is not 40s and 50s, you basically may start losing share. So incrementally, while you continue to measure vitality and RemainCo Honeywell will have vitality in high 40s, think about 45% or so. We also now measure every quarter, new product -- revenue coming from new products. And our internal target is like we did 4% last year, like to maintain that rate. That requires a lot of edition, working with the customers, having the right ideas and so on, but that's going to be the new playbook for Honeywell that we want to grow through new products and then whatever market allows us to pick up on price. So yes, that's how I would summarize that comment.
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Tusa with JPMorgan.
Just to clarify that answer. So you're expecting roughly 3% price this year? .
Price will be above 3%. I would say most likely 3.5%, depending on geography and the vertical, we're deploying 3% to 4% on average should be 3.5% and quarterly also, there will be a little bit of movement, but that's kind of the framework we're using for the year with the teams.
So at the low end of the range, the volume down 50 bps?
No, no. It really just depends on the -- we deployed price at level essentially. So it's depending on how fast if the product is growing at 1%, and market doesn't allow us to deploy more price. We won't do that.
I think low end, I would say, Steve, is volume growth in the low end of the guide, 3% to 6% is 0, high end, it is about 3%. So that's kind of how you want to look at the guide 3% to 6% price being somewhere around 3% to 3.5%, and the balance is volume.
Yes. It seems pretty conservative with your order growth rate, but I won't belabor that point. Just on the stranded costs, it seems like -- I would have maybe expected the advanced material stranded cost to come out a little bit quicker. Can you maybe just level set us on where those stranded costs lie today, especially on the aero side, what to expect? And how those should layer out of the numbers because that seems to be a relatively heavy burden that you're leaving in there, but should be a tailwind at some point in the next 18 months or so.
You're right, Steve. So we have already neutralized Advanced Materials stranded costs in 2026. So that's one of the walks we are showing in our margin expansion that it is net neutral. So the headwind of that is gone, which shows that we are looking ahead and executing it as simultaneously as we're working to spin.
Now specifically coming to the aerospace question, right now, I will admit that we are so heavily focused to make spend happen in Q3. We'll share the specifics of stranded costs, et cetera, during our Investor Day coming up in June, but we are absolutely confident and committed that we will eliminate stranded costs in 12 to 18 months' time. Earlier, the better, we absolutely get it. But that's the range we expect to take it out.
Okay. And then just one last one in Aero. Can you give us any kind of magnitude of margin improvement embedded in the guidance for Aero this year? Is it 25, 50 bps, like maybe just a little bit of color on directionally magnitude.
Yes. I would say modest, you think like low 30s incrementals.
Our next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
And congrats to the team on hitting these transformation milestones earlier and also best to Sean, and welcome back to Mark. Just a first question, just you've been now more specific about the portfolio cleanups for PSS and warehouse. What can you tell us about the sales process?
So I would say at this point, we have a lot of interest on both the businesses, and we expect to do a sign of the deals in quarter 2. On the specific within the quarter, it's hard to pinpoint a month here at this point, but we do expect that quarter 2, we'll be able to sign it and the close will be customary regulatory approvals, so that you can then estimate that the total time this business may not be part of Honeywell.
What it does is being interestingly, when we complete the transaction of warehouse automation business and [indiscernible] and Productivity Solutions business, it simplifies us into 3 market, process, buildings and industrial because this allows us to make a choice not to be in a transportation logistics and warehouse markets, not that these are bad markets, it's more a question of where we want to participate as a company. So it's a choice to be made.
And the second thing as is it makes industrial automation as a sensing and measurement business. We had one of the challenge of Industrial Automation being a complex business to understand with a lot of segments and a lot of drivers. So with this decision, we are able to narrow down the business to sensing and measurement, which gives us a platform on which we will build upon through organic growth and hopefully, we look at more inorganic actions in the future. So it plays out extremely well in our overarching strategy.
That's real helpful. And the second question, there was a reference about pockets of weakness in Europe and China. Maybe just give us a sense of when the geographies, what you're seeing at the margin.
I would say that those comments are specifically for Industrial Automation business. Industrial Automation business is seeing strength in North America and U.S., in particular. The segments are performing extremely well. But the segments of IA business in China and in Europe, the exposures we have in end markets we see pressure there, and that's the weakness in short cycle in Europe. Now that's not true for other parts of Honeywell. If you see building automation, they don't see pressure in Europe and China because they serve different markets, and they have different product lines.
So it's very specific to industrial automation at this point, and we'll observe how the year progresses. What we are doing is we are focused on launching much more new products so that we are able to generate more demand organically to offset some of these drivers and we'll observe how the year progresses with our actions to counter some of these market conditions.
Our next question comes from the line Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies.
I'll focus on Aerospace, if that's okay. All 3 end markets grew double digits in '25. Maybe if you could tell us the rank order of how you're thinking about 2026 end markets? And any changes around the medium-term growth trajectories as we prefer Investor Day in June?
Thanks, Sheila. Yes, I would say that we were really pleased with the progress the team made on supply chain, really big performance on volume, especially the end of the year. So great momentum, particularly with the order rates going into '26.
Looking at the growth rates by end market, we'd say defense and space is likely to lead. So high single digits, maybe creeping in a low double depending on supply chain progress. We then expect OE to be high single-digit growth and then still strong performance in aftermarket but continue on that path towards normalization, so call it mid- to high single-digit growth as the range. And all of that should blend to a high single-digit performance for 2026.
Got it. And then one on -- I know a lot has been asked on margins already, but just specifically around incremental investments as we see from the defense contractors, how are you thinking about incremental investments surrounding your portfolio within aerospace and R&D focus areas?
We have been investing -- if you look at the broader team of investments, we have been investing in supply chain. We have telegraphed that earlier more than $1 billion investment, and then we have delivered volume growth over 14 quarters now, double-digit volume growth, which results into our organic growth.
Now in 2025, 2026, overall Honeywell CapEx increases about $250 million. Aero is a large part of it. And it's a good news in my view because Aero needs more volumes, it needs to expand supply chain capacity. There are other parts of investment and other parts of automation business, but Aero has a large share of it.
So fundamentally speaking, we are able to deliver to Department of War needs for more volume. And in fact, we are close to PO and heartly with any past due, which shows that we have ability to meet their needs and the volume they are looking for. So we are very well positioned there. I think our volume capacity, our investments are always in order, and we'll continue to make more if it is necessary to grow the business.
Sheila, it's about about $150 million in CapEx increase next year, a majority of it is going to be funded through working capital improvement. No impact.
Our next question comes from the line of Amit Mehrotra with UBS. .
Vimal, the building automation growth has been good the last few quarters. And I think some of that is applicable to kind of the success you've had in plugging the assets into Forge. And I guess the question I have is, what is the -- how can you replicate that in the process and industrial businesses whereby maybe the most cyclical parts of the business, you can generate more recurring revenue by upselling some of the services by plugging into your platform. Can you just talk about that? Or are those just 2 different things?
Yes. No, the -- excellent question, Amit. We have been working very hard to change our business model to more recurring revenue and the basis of that is stronger linkage to our IoT platform Forge. Building started that first and process started that later. I would say the gap between that is about 9 to 12 months. And we can clearly see results in the building.
What we have been able to do is really build -- I'm going to use word ontology-based models. It means that we are able to -- when we connect the building, we are able to identify all assets and really build a reference data model for our customer, which allows us to then build different applications on top of it. And hopefully, when -- we are -- in Investor Day, we'll be able to show you agents on top of Forge, which are managing different operations, maintenance, energy management, so we are moving now to a genetic way of working on our customer base. And you're absolutely right, that kind of innovation is driving the growth pull-through of our products because it's a bond solution, it's not separated from other.
Now it is the same journey in the process. We are just about 9 months, 12 months behind, [ connected ] plant is our key offering. It takes our customer installed base, both on process technology and process automation, and again, ability to build this ontology-based model and then give a much more stronger capability to optimize their operations. So that's coming soon. And we do expect that to become an enabler for recurring revenue growth in the process segment in the near future. And then finally, in the industrial side, our business is far more becoming sensing and measurement. It's less about our controls. But we have to evolve that strategy there. But I remain very confident we are going to see the same pattern in process in the very near future.
And just sort of very much related to that, you're building automation revenue forecast is kind of mid-single-digit plus this year. It feels like that journey and connecting those 11,000 to 12,000 assets in the field is kind of 1/3 of the way through. And I think you guys have a goal of kind of accelerating that this year. So I'm just wondering, is it just conservatism? Because it seems like as you get to that journey of fully connected asset, you can actually drive sustainability in that kind of high single-digit organic growth.
Yes. I mean our penetration, Amit, actually is much lower, which gives us sort of runway and upside. We'll share those details during Investor Day, how much of installed base is penetrated from connected assets but also bear in mind that recurring revenue takes time to scale. So if I -- as our recurring revenue bank is building, it just compounds every year at a bigger scale. So we are at a low base at this point. But we do believe that we also will continue to ramp it up at a much higher rate in the times ahead as our ARR is growing there. And we expect to share 2 things during the Investor Day. Our offerings on Forge, both for buildings and process, industrial, some initial ideas. And then our ARR strategy, how much it is and how much we expect it to compound in the times ahead.
Our next question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
Just wanted to start on some of the order trends that you saw during the quarter. Can we talk to them about how short cycle order trends generally trended? And not just relative to 3Q, but also throughout the cadence of each month of the quarter?
Sure. So I would tell you that generally, if you have to look at it regionally. So U.S., Meta, India, short-cycle orders performed well throughout the year and in the fourth quarter as well. On the other hand, Europe and China, at least for where we participate specifically in industrial automation, we're just okay, great.
Going into the first quarter, we see that orders generally will be high single digits on the short side, probably mid-single digits for BA and aerospace. And then on IA and PA&T, we will continue to monitor. But as Vimal mentioned earlier, the catalyst and conversions are all bit slow.
Okay. Got it. Mike, that's helpful. And then maybe just a question on Industrial Automation margins. I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks that this is where you guys expect the greatest year-on-year margin expansion in 2026. Can you maybe elaborate a little bit on that with respect to the magnitude of potential margin expansion?
Yes. So vis-a-vis our guide of 20 to 60 and what are we driving operationally. We have industrial automation at close to 100 bps. And the reason for it, if you look at the margin trajectory and progression, we feel like industrial automation has the most opportunity both from a productivity operationally as well as pricing and leverage volume and demand. And so that's how we instrumented the year, and I have high confidence and the team will execute on that. .
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to follow up on some of the commercial OE contracting discussion. Just given the very long nature of these contracts, I imagine these negotiations are a lot more comprehensive than just pricing for some of the tariff pressure that's come through over the last year. So I don't know, maybe you don't want to kind of frame the magnitude of these conversations, but any color there would be helpful. Or if you could just maybe talk about like when was the last time the company did a big comprehensive commercial OE price reset?
So Chris, these contract negotiations don't span one particular OE, first of all. I mean this is more than one. Few are large, few are small that's just a matter of fact. And -- some of these are due for a long time, think about 5 years plus in some cases. So the impact of that, you're absolutely right because when you're renegotiating a contract after 5, 7, 8 years, not only are looking at the pricing changes, but other aspects of the contract. And that's why it takes a very long time to renegotiate a long-term contracts there.
And as I said before, these renegotiated contracts will be very well for Aerospace margin expansion in the future. So it will be a great setup because we lap all the previous long-term inflation we have been absorbing in some of these contracts, that won't be a headwind anymore.
Really appreciate that. Yes, certainly a lot of cost inflation over the last 5, 7 years. Maybe just a quick one. I think you guys mentioned that R&D was kind of at the full run rate, obviously, an increase in '25, so is that right, is R&D kind of at a full run rate level now? And I know Aero takes a long time to convert in sales. But I would imagine the industrial side of the business converts quicker. So can you just maybe talk about how you think some of the R&D spend converts to sales on industrial? And could there be any tailwinds from that over the next 12 months?
Yes. So like I said earlier, I think the R&D right now is at the level that we wanted. It's about 4.8% of sales that we feel is a sweet spot for us quarterly going from -- into the first quarter, that will continue to abate. And will be more normalized, and we're obviously getting revenue growth, which will be a talent from margin standpoint.
And the cycle time, Chris, varies from, I would say, 18 months, 15 to 18 months for the short cycle and for the long-cycle business like aerospace and some of our process technology could be 3 to 5 years. So these are long bets in some cases, and it's our job as leadership to put those bets so that we could not deliver even short-term growth but also position to compete well for the long-term growth.
And -- if you look at our corporate costs, I mean, it's really, for us, the 30 bps drag on Quantinuum, no impact from R&D, stranded costs, we addressed in the -- throughout last year. So we don't have a lot of stranded costs as far as Solstice. So we feel really good about the progression we're making on our structural cost.
Our final question comes from the line of Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
On the question on building automation. Just a follow-up. Can we just talk about how much growth is coming from Access Solutions cross-sell? And also, how much exposure do you have there to data centers just because you are the market leader in building automation, I would imagine that's a nice tailwind as well.
Yes. So Andrew, the Access Solutions acquisition is playing extremely well. And overall, the revenue in that segment is growing high single digit, in line with building automation, which is growing high single digits. So our thesis has played out quite well.
The second part of your question that sales synergies have been a big feature of it. That was one of the main drivers we thought this business will create our value, and that's been additive to the overall growth. And again, it's reflected in building automation numbers because that growth is not only coming in Access Solutions business, we're able to pull through a lot of Access Solutions suasion in our projects business in our solution side of the house here. So that certainly is becoming an important play.
And finally, data center overall position of Honeywell in building automation is becoming slowly material. We are inching towards that becoming greater than 5% of our revenue. Think about it, that number was 0 a couple of years back. So we are inching our way through across all the 3 solutions we provide in data center, the safety for fire, the environmental controls to building measurement system and security. So we continue to work our way through. And as that market is performing, that will continue to help the growth of building automation.
And another question, a follow-up question. After selling productivity solutions and warehouse and workflow solutions, do you anticipate further portfolio actions on industrial automation side or beyond that?
No. I mean we are very pleased with the end state. And as I mentioned, Andrew, that we have built now a business in Industrial Automation, which is heavily focused on sensing and measurement. So we have a common block sending in sensors for aerospace, sensors for medical devices, measurement system for gas detection in industrial, in semiconductor, measurement of gas and others. So we have a common team, which allows us to build a business around it. So we'll scale from here, so stay tuned and as we share our strategy for industrial automation during our Investor Day. .
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry, go ahead, sir.
No.
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Kapur for any final comments.
Thank you. So as always, I would like to thank our shareholders, our customers and all the Honeywell future shapers across the world for a strong finish to 2025, we remain confident in our path ahead, and we look forward to sharing more with everyone in the quarters to come. So thank you for all listening and please stay safe and healthy. .
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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Honeywell International — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
Honeywell International — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Organisches Wachstum +11% in Q4; +6% bereinigt um die Bombardier-Effekte.
- EPS (Gewinn je Aktie): Adjusted $2,59 in Q4 (+17% YoY; -3% ex-Bombardier).
- Aufträge & Backlog: Aufträge +23% YoY; Backlog > $37 Mrd., +15%.
- Segmentmarge: Adjusted Segment Profit +23% (Segmentmarge Q4: 22,8%).
- Free Cash Flow: $2,5 Mrd. in Q4 (+48% YoY; +13% ex-Bombardier).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Portfolio: Advanced Materials (Solstice) abgespaltet; Aerospace-Spin erwartet für Q3 2026; weitere Verkäufe (PSS, Warehouse) in H1 2026 geplant.
- Wachstumstreiber: Rekordbacklog, Preisdisziplin und NPI (New Product Introduction) treiben organisches Wachstum; R&D-Aufstockung und +600 Ingenieure 2025.
- Quantinuum: Starke externe Finanzierungsrunde (~$840M) und technischer Fortschritt (Helios); Quantinuum-Investitionen sollen kommerzielle Umsetzung beschleunigen.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Jahresziel 2026: Umsatz $38,8–39,8 Mrd. (organisch +3% bis +6%).
- EPS: Adjusted $10,35–10,65 (+6% bis +9%); 1% aktienreduzierung eingerechnet.
- Margen & FCF: Segmentmargen +20–60 Basispunkte auf 22,7–23,1%; Free Cash Flow $5,3–5,6 Mrd. (≈14% Marge).
- Risiken/Annahmen: ~30 bps Drag durch Quantinuum-Investitionen; Catalyst-Lieferungen in ESS schwächer, Erholung erwartet H2 2026; Guidance schließt bestimmte Übernahmen/Transaktionen noch nicht ein.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Margen-Timing: Analysten forderten Klarheit zur Zweithalbjahres-Weighting; Management sieht operative Expansion 50–90 bps, erste Hälfte schwächer, zweite besser.
- Quantinuum & Cash: Nachfrage nach IPO-/Finanzierungsplan; Firma investiert ~+$100M YoY, ist aber kapitalisiert; diese Investition drückt kurzfristig Margen/FCF leicht.
- Process Orders & Katalysatoren: Starke langfristige Projektaufträge (LNG, Refining) erhöhen Backlog; Kurzzykliker (Petrochemical catalysts) verzögern Umsätze kurzfristig.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Bewertung: Q4-Beat, Rekordbacklog und starker Cashflow stützen die 2026-Guidance; Erwartetes EPS-Wachstum 6–9% mit klarer Margin-Expansionsstrategie. Kurzfristige Risiken: Quantinuum-Investitionen (≈30 bps) und temporäre Verzögerungen bei Katalysatoren. Der beschleunigte Spin-Prozess (Aerospace Q3 2026) und laufende Portfolioverkäufe sind potenzielle Werttreiber für Aktionäre.
Honeywell International — Goldman Sachs Industrials and Materials Conference 2025
1. Question Answer
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Goldman Sachs Industrials and Materials Conference. My name is Joe Ritchie. I cover the multi-industry sector. I also help co-run the Industrials and Materials business unit. So thank you all for coming today.
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So with that, we are really excited to start and kick off the conference with Honeywell. We have Mike Stepniak, Honeywell's CFO. Mike, thanks so much for joining us today.
Thank you for having us.
So look, why don't we get into it? And why don't we revisit the last year. It's been about a year since you took over as CFO. A lot has been in the works. Just in terms of progress that you've made across the past year, maybe just point us to some things that you're really excited about. And then clearly, the focus for the upcoming year.
Sure. It's been a great year, I would say, very busy year for the company, for our employees. Going into the year and taking on this role, my big priority was to really make sure that investors have confidence in our guide. And going through the year, we were able to beat and raise 3 times in a row. So super happy with progress in terms of our cadence as far as being able to beat and raise and provide reliable forecast. Internally, as far as how we're focusing the teams, my goal is really -- has been to pivot the team to growth and pivot the team to grow through NPI.
So we spent this year, one, reinvesting in R&D where we needed to, and we have pockets of areas where we need to reinvest and then really making sure we have a better connectivity between our engineering teams, NPI teams, offering management and our product get to market faster. And we can see the fruits of that work already. You can see our step-up in revenue and organic growth. So I'm pleased with the progress here.
And then finally, the third thing is really utilizing or leveraging the separation to simplify the company. And you've seen a lot of work we've been doing behind the scenes on preparing for the separation, but also preparing for new Honeywell. And that's a lot of things we've done in terms of structurally simplifying Honeywell. We've done the asbestos liabilities recently. We're progressing on our Quantinuum work. We had just very successful raise recently. And I'm really focused just on taking out cost and preparing teams to operate as leaner and more focused companies.
With that said, I also just going into year-end, we had a really strong third quarter. Orders were up 22%. We're seeing good progress in the fourth quarter, nothing, I would say, alarming as far as the order rates, et cetera. So we're quite excited about 2026 as we finish up strong here.
Okay. Great. A bunch of different places to go from that initial statement. So let's just start with all of the stuff that's happening, right? You've got your spins, your divestitures, M&A, the capital raise, Quantinuum, a lot. What does Honeywell look like a year from now?
Very different. And I would say we obviously -- the hypothesis of separating into 3 companies is really to allow us to be more focused. So we've done -- so this, I would say, from a spin standpoint, successful Investor Day to start trading. They have a very good, I would say, prospects going to 2026, good positioning even in nuclear side, and we see nuclear coming back. So really excited about that business.
And the big one is obviously Aerospace and Automation. And what my takeaway is that looking -- whether you look at the sum of the parts and looking just at the business and how the business runs, those businesses will be much more focused, much more, I would say, we'll have much more flexibility as far as investment, much more focused to their end markets. I think they will operate better. And Automation will be much simpler. We're spending a lot of time on simplifying, like I said, structurally. We reorganized our segments recently. This is once again to help our investor base be able to analyze and unpack Honeywell and also for us to be able to operate more efficiently.
That makes sense. So let's pull on that thread a little bit. So Automation is going to be much simpler, right? If you take a look at those 3 businesses today. You have the portion that is under strategic review right now, which is the warehouse and productivity business. You have the process Automation side of the business and then you have your HBT business or your Building Automation business. When you think about those 3 together, is there any reason why those 3 need to be together? And then is there an opportunity to continue to simplify by making those 3 stand-alone?
I would say what emerges after Aero's separation is a pure-play premier automation company. It is as pure automation as you get. We chose to -- based on our history and how the business evolved, we chose to participate in buildings, in process and in industrial. But within those, they're pure play. As far as synergies or dis-synergies and the question whether the business have to be together, in order to be able to operate in the markets that we operate in, which is high barrier to entry, high technology, you have to be spec-ed in or you have to be certified.
In these markets, scale matters. And we leverage our scale predominantly around our engineering resources. We have over 10,000 engineers that we use across the world to support these 3 businesses. And we -- as the business and the market is shifting to outcome services, if you will, annual recurring revenue for software. That's where our platform -- Forge platform comes in. We spent the last 5 years investing in Forge, and we have really good outcomes as far as connected, being able to connect our installed base, being able to deliver to the customer insights that have very high ROI for them as far as productivity.
So I think there's something to be said about scale. And I think for the line of work we're in, that scale matters, and we need those businesses together in order to be able to get that scale and get that leverage.
Okay. Just on the portion that's in strategic review today, do you want to give an update on how that is progressing?
It's progressing well. I would say I don't have anything incremental to say today, but we will have an update at the end of January when we do our 2026 guide.
Okay. Sounds good. There's a lot of conversation just across the space around the pricing environment, particularly as it relates to tariffs, how much pricing is potentially going to carry over into 2026, if tariffs are repealed, what happens to pricing? Is there a way to kind of think about the pricing that you're getting in your business today and how to think about that as we head into next year?
Sure. I would say maybe just to set the background is we will finish probably year around 5% growth, 2% will be from volume vis-a-vis, I think we guided initially 0% to 1% and then we'll get about 3% of price. That 3% of price on, I would say, on a 12-month basis covers our tariff exposure. And how the year played out, I think our Building Automation business was very quick to get the price and the short-cycle businesses in general. Where we're behind was around Aerospace. We have a lot of OEM contracts, which are long term. They don't have provisions for tariffs, et cetera. So it took us a little bit longer to negotiate these tariffs, and the Aero team took them a little bit longer to get it. I would say going into next year, that's becoming a tailwind for Aerospace.
And then in ESS business, particularly in UOP, we've got really good price in Sundyne. We've really good price in the LNG business. On the other hand, if you think about the catalyst and there's just no demand right now. So the pricing is low as we're just destroying the demand by driving more price. So it's a mixed bag. But I would say, generally going to 2026, things are stabilizing, and I'm confident we'll be able to offset the price -- sorry, offset the tariffs with price and other options.
So can we talk about Aero for a second? It is by far like the #1 question I get after every call. Aero margins, are they bottoming? Where are we going from here? The comment around pricing in Aero lagging this year, as you think about '26, does that become margin accretive for the business? How well has that organization done at actually repricing those contracts to make sure that you guys are at least margin neutral, maybe margin accretive?
Sure. Aerospace is a long-cycle business. It takes a while to change things, adjust things, et cetera. Looking at 2025, I feel the business bottomed out in the second quarter as far as the margins, and the margins should continue to expand through next year. Going to next year, the team has many more tailwinds than headwinds, I would say. The first one, a case acquisition, which should be materially through integration. And that business should start accreting as far as the margins to our normal Defense and Space margins. So that's a tailwind.
Second, like I said, pricing, especially around the OEM contracts should get better. We have OEM contracts that are expiring or coming for renewal in 2027. But knowing how our OEMs work and how we partner with them, I assume some of the pricing should start coming through in 2026 or the second half of 2026. So the pricing will be a tailwind as well. And I think on the tariff side, like I said earlier, the team has figured out how to offset those.
And the third one, big one is really productivity. Our positive backlog is still extremely high, but the team has been able to output at double digits for the last 13 quarters in a row. And my guiding, I would say, principle in terms of health of the supply chain is really looking at days of supply that we have in inventory. And the team this year, this is the first year in 3 years, the team has been able to reduce days of supply. And the days of supply came -- will come probably 10 days better vis-a-vis the start of the year.
So it tells me that supply chain is getting healthier. We're starting to push through -- process more inventory through the system. And it's also consistent with our revenue growth. So the team has a lot of tailwinds and obviously, they're working through it. I'm confident they will expand margins next year vis-a-vis the framework of us getting to 29%. I 100% am a believer that, that's going to happen. But I think this is more of a discussion for '28, '29. And the team has to really get that full productivity out of the supply chain.
Got it. That's super helpful. The -- sticking with Aero for a second. When you talked about the supply chain issues, my understanding is a lot of that was happening in the defense space, maybe it was in the OE space as well. When you parse out your organic growth this quarter in Aero, low double-digit organic growth, Aftermarket was up almost 20%. Defense was up double digits. OE was up 2%. As you head into next year, mix is going to shift a little bit, right? So talk to us about like the mix dynamics. Is that an impact to margins at all next year? And also from a supply chain standpoint, was I right in thinking it was mostly in the defense side?
Yes. So I would say our supply chain issues, where they remain is on the mechanical side. So if you think about anything that is relating to castings, forgings, high precision machining, et cetera, that's the part of the supply chain that across the industry is still, I would say, behind and there's more recovery to do. Electronics, control systems, et cetera, we're already on PO and have been for many quarters. If you think about the progression of our OE business, commercial OE specifically, where I think we're down in the second quarter. Like you said, we're up 2% in the third quarter. We should be up high single digits in the fourth quarter. What it means for next year, I would say that these ratios as far as OE to Aftermarket should normalize and be more consistent. So all parts of the business should grow at high single digits.
Defense and Space, that's where we have a lot of our positive backlog. It really depends kind of on availability of parts, et cetera, in the business as far as how they go. But I think there we just gravitate around that high single-digit growth for a while.
So if all subsegments are growing around the same clip from a margin perspective, you don't expect to see much of a headwind?
I do not. There isn't -- OE obviously creates margin headwind. But you have to realize that when you look at the aerospace portfolio, it's very balanced. We have a lot of business in Business Aviation. We have a lot of business in Defense and Space, Aftermarket. Our commercial OE with the big OEMs is about only 15% of our business. So even that commercial OE side of the business is growing faster, putting pressure on margins. I don't think those pressures are quite pronounced. That said, though, it's a great problem to have. Obviously, we're installing base and that creates -- new installed base creates new opportunities for Aftermarket revenues.
Great. You mentioned earlier that your orders were strong this past quarter, up 22%. I think on the conference call as well, you expected the order momentum to continue into 4Q. I think you made a comment earlier that things have kind of played out as you've expected, but just any further comments?
I would say October was strong. We're just getting the data for November, and these orders look in line with our expectations. Well, I'm sure we'll talk a little bit about later, but looking at our UOP business, our UOP business is, I would say, is a mixed bag from a revenue standpoint, a margin standpoint as we don't have these catalyst sales and project delays. That said, though, the UOP business has the strongest, I would say, order book that they have seen in a very long time. So I'm really, I would say, excited about the prospect of the business, especially going into the next year and second half of next year as some of these big projects translate from orders to revenue.
That's helpful. So let's just talk about UOP, right? Because you've called it out in the quarter, right, that margins were going to be down pretty substantially, right? And the number I have in my head is like around 20%, maybe a little bit lower.
Yes, it's about 100 bps for the year.
Okay. So that seems like the -- on the margin, like it doesn't seem like things have gotten any worse this quarter? Or have things are better?
So I would say if you unpack our business, if you look at acquisition, first of all, let's start with acquisitions, it's performing extremely well. They're accretive to growth, they're accretive to their own performance, and they're accretive to margins. So both on LNG and Sundyne, the demand is extremely strong. That part of industry is performing very well, and we're doing extremely well. When it comes to kind of, call it, rest of UOP, where we don't see a lot of demand yet is on the petrochemical side.
There is just, I would say, oversupply, the macros are not great. We start seeing, like I said, just a lot of orders, and I would say, pipeline translating to orders, which is great. But this is a long-cycle business. So by the time you engineer, you sell licenses, you say catalyst, it's going to take a while. But we see strong demand. Business is working through restructuring, cost restructuring, et cetera, to position itself for that growth, but we'll feel some pain in the fourth and first quarter.
Okay. As you -- those orders that are coming in now, is it fair to assume that's outside of the petrochemical industry? So where -- like what end markets are going...
No, it is petrochemical. So those are big -- I mean those are usually investment for our customers in billions of dollars. And these contracts, they've been in the pipeline for a while and now start converting. The big one that was just in the press, it's Dangote in Nigeria, big petrochemical complex that come in, obviously, we want it. And there are a few more like this coming in.
Right. But these are multiyear projects...
Multiyear projects, et cetera.
Okay. Understood. That's helpful. I guess we started going down the path of the Aero segment, the Automation segment. Let's maybe talk a little bit more like broadly about like the 2026 framework and how you guys are thinking about it initially.
Yes. So we'll provide the guide here in about 1.5 months. But exiting 2025, I'm quite positive on 2026. Orders are great. Our backlogs in most of our businesses are the highest they've ever been. I'm doing a lot of work personally on cost out and structural cost to minimize and accelerate the stranded costs and stand-up costs for Aerospace. And the teams are performing extremely well there. We have really good, I would say, discipline on price and NPI. So a lot of things are pointing to a great 2026 for Honeywell.
Great. Let me ask one follow-up question to that, and then I'm also going to open it up to the audience and if the audience has any questions. So I'm listening to the trends ending the year from an order perspective, how you've executed throughout the year as I kind of put that in the context of your long-term framework of 4% to 7% organic, 40 to 60 basis points of margin expansion, it sounds like you feel, at least today, pretty comfortable that next year should be at least within those ranges.
Look, what I would say is that the framework that we set out is it holds for us. And I think 2025 for us was a low point. If you remember, we were separating the company. There are a lot of things going on, but we're working as fast as we can to position ourselves for a strong 2026 and even stronger 2027. And I know there are a lot of things going on right now. It's hard to, I would say, unpack everything. But every step we take is to really aim and putting together a stronger Honeywell post separation.
Okay. Great. I'll open up to questions from the audience. Anybody have any questions? Shy bunch at 8:00 in the morning, so I'll continue. So let's go to Building Automation, right? Look, it's been a great piece of the story all year, right? It accelerated to high single-digit organic growth in most recent quarters. Maybe just talk a little bit about the end markets that are driving this. And then as you think about Access Solutions, I know it's now embedded within the organization. Is that going to be accretive to growth in 2026?
Sure. So I would tell you, I'm really proud of what the Building Automation business and the team has done. I started my Honeywell career in Building Automation in 2020, just as COVID started. And at the time, a lot of questions were very similar to your question today, like why Building Automation should be in Honeywell, just sell the pieces, et cetera. Fast forward 5 years, it's crown jewel on the portfolio. And I think what the team has done there and what's really driving the performance is really focused on the NPI. It's focused on Forge and Connected and focus on Software. I think that team is within Honeywell is probably the most ahead on the journey as far as providing outcome-based services to our customers insight and leverage the connect and software to drive outcomes.
As far as where the industry is growing is obviously data center demand is extremely high and investment of AI, we participate in that as well. So that's probably our strongest growing end market, and we'll continue to build scale in there. After that is really not really commercial buildings, if you will, offices, but it's hospitality, hospitals, life sciences, places like that where there is, I would say, once again, the high level of specification and certification needed and that grows for us.
And Building Automation for us is the, I would say, the most global business that we have. And we see growth in Middle East. We see growth in Europe. We talked about earlier, Europe used to be, I would say, a drag for us. Now it's becoming a tailwind. Business start to grow very nicely there. And Asia is growing as well.
It's been great to see to be candid. You look at the margins in that business, I always start to get somewhat concerned when margins get close to 30%, segment margins here at 27%. How are you thinking about the levers outside of clearly like volume growth that you can get margins higher?
So one, Access Solutions is accretive. So it's accretive from the margins and the business has now been, I think, over a year in the portfolio. So you see that accretive growth and translation to margins that's showing up as organic growth and organic margin expansion. And like I said, Access Solutions, like most of our acquisitions is performing above pro forma. So we'll see a lot of tailwinds there.
Second is really just leverage on the top line growth. If you're growing at 5%, 7%, you get much better fixed cost leverage. And that's what the team is doing, and the team is not lazy, I would say. The team is really focused on making sure that they're productive and they invest in NPI, but also have a very strong say-do on new offerings.
Yes. I don't know that I'd ever describe anybody I've ever met at Honeywell's lazy, that part of the culture. Okay. Transitioning over to the Industrial Automation business. So we talked a little bit about -- hopefully get an update by the next time we hear from you guys in earnings on the strategic review. But let's talk about process for a second, right? That's been roughly flat the last 3 quarters. So maybe talk about like what are you seeing across the growth trends in that business going forward?
Sure. So maybe just -- before I go there, just talk a little bit on portfolio review, et cetera. I think once we are past the portfolio review on Intelligrated and PSS, materially, I would say, we're done with the portfolio review. I don't see any businesses in new Honeywell that do not belong there they're of material scale. We'll continue, though, to focus on continuing to build our pipeline from an M&A standpoint. And we, I think, have proven to ourselves that doing smart M&A as far as looking for assets or even carve-outs. We've done a lot of carve-outs, which not really belong to Honeywell as an owner, if you will, and fit in the portfolio well and accretive from a growth standpoint and a margin standpoint, those are good areas to focus. But obviously, we're conscious about how much we're spending on M&A and then what multiples. So we'll continue to be focused on that.
Back to your question, just on the process business, I would say HPS itself is -- has a very similar dynamic to ESS as far as part of the business growing extremely well, other parts, not so much. So I would say the big projects, we don't see as much volume there. Now on the other hand, we see a lot of demand and continued demand in the life cycle. So in the aftermarket, OpEx spend is there, et cetera. So we feel good about this business going into year-end and next year.
Sensing business is performing very well, and that will continue. We're actually building out capacity there for -- to stimulate demand and demand is really in life sciences and A&D. So we'll continue to invest there. And then I would say IGS and PSS, it's a mixed bag. IGS was slow in the first half. Now we see now post tariff settling, if you will, and the environment becoming more clear, we're start seeing more demand, more projects. And PSS is just a mixed bag.
So we're -- it's almost a little bit like back to the future with HPS being reunited again, with the UOP business. But like as you -- you know that you're resegmenting, how do we think about the right margins left over in the Industrial Automation business going forward?
As far as the size of the business...
Yes, like the size of the business, what the margin profile is, and then you're in the process of strategic review. I know that depending on what happens there, it can also change the profile. But like how do we think about this business going forward?
I would say this is a self-help story for us. This business feels to me a little bit like BA felt 5 years ago. We spend a lot of time this year focusing the business, unpacking our product life cycle journeys in the various businesses there. We reinvested in NPI, start seeing results there. We upgraded the leadership team as well. And I think that business is really a focus for us as far as, one, organic growth and then inorganic focus. But I think before we get into inorganic focus, we -- the team has to prove they can grow organically, and that's what we're focusing on.
So a lot of the restructuring that you're doing this year, is that going into this segment?
Most of it is in that segment and in UOP.
Okay. I want to talk about -- before we got on stage, I mentioned that I had to literally look at all the different deals that you guys have done over the last 2 to 3 years. It's been incredible. You've been very active. How are you thinking about the pipeline going forward? And then of the deals that you've done recently, maybe just give some color on how they're performing.
Sure. And I think we owe the investor community kind of an update on how those deals are doing. We'll do it, whether it's part of the Investor Day or maybe part of the earnings, but acquisitions are performing extremely well. So I think the team has done a really good job, one, just managing and pruning the pipeline and cultivating it and then having the right assumptions, if you will, in our pro formas and how it worked out. And then execution has been quite strong across the board. So we -- I think we've done 6 deals, material deals. And going forward, I think what you continue to see from us is really more bolt-on acquisitions.
We -- if I look at the portfolio, I feel like the Building Automation portfolio is well provisioned. We've done a lot in UOP and ESS. And we still have Johnson Matthey Catalysts technologies to finish, and that should happen in the first half of this year. And then from there, it's very clear that Industrial Automation and HPS probably are candidates for some bolt-ons then. But we'll be -- I would say we'll be thoughtful on it. Pricing matters to us. And like I said earlier, being accretive from a revenue standpoint, growth standpoint and being accretive from a margin standpoint also is important.
You've been active in Aero, but I didn't hear you say Aero when you were talking through...
So look, I would say Aero is tougher. The team has a lot of good prospects, but I think Aero is tougher to -- and we want to make sure we're thoughtful there. They've done Civitanavi, and they've done case, so they've done 2 deals. I think coming out of the gate, Aero will have capacity to do M&A as well as some portfolio trimming. I know -- knowing Jim, I know he will want to do some portfolio trimming there as well around the edges, we should give them more capacity to do M&A.
So I know I've waited until the end of the conversation to ask you if AI, that was purposeful. But I'm just curious, just as you kind of think about the opportunity, maybe threat across your businesses...
On AI?
On AI.
Yes. It's here, and it's just making sure how you make it -- you make sure how you get the ROI on it. I just had my CEO just send me yesterday an e-mail with essentially 3 agentic robots talking to some of our customers on managing past dues. It is incredible what we can do. And first, if you listen to the conversation, it feels like you're talking to a real person. And the second is in terms of being able to -- those robots being able to ascertain as far as what information we need, where we need it, how to ask the questions, et cetera. There's a ton of productivity there. And we're doing it across the company.
I think big productivity for us is in proposals. We've been doing -- using AI in proposals and estimates as far as being able to get through higher volume of transactions and RFPs. From a tax standpoint, we're using AI in terms of returns, et cetera. That's helpful, and that's all productivity for us. Engineering-wise as well, actually, that's probably the biggest area of productivity for us in terms of drawings and recreation, et cetera, and engineers love AI. So a ton of productivity there. It's just a question like I think everybody else is, as a CFO, how you quantify it, where do you see the productivity, where you see cost savings coming in from and make sure that you don't have redundancies.
Yes. Super helpful. Going back to Quantinuum for a second, can you just like the valuations of the Quantum stocks have rollercoastered, but they're certainly higher than they were 12 months ago. How are you thinking about the timing for that IPO?
So maybe if you step away just from the hype of Quantinuum and all these different companies running around, we're really pleased with our maturation of technology and the progress. And I'm extremely proud of what the team has been able to do on drumming up demand and having tangible outcomes with tangible customers as far as growing their orders pipeline, their revenue pipeline, et cetera. So the maturation and the commercialization of the product, I would say, is outstanding.
Now if you see the valuation and who came in on the valuation, players like NVIDIA, JPMorgan, et cetera. So this is really all aimed at having commercial applications in these technologies. And I feel like over the next 24 months, we'll be in a position to have some kind of high ROI monetization event in the business because I don't think we're a natural owner of the technology. But nonetheless, we're continue to fund it and stepping up funding to mature the products and develop the customer base. And I'm really excited about the prospects of Quantinuum.
So Mike, we're going to be bumping up on time. Just any parting thoughts for everybody. It's been a transition year. It seems like the light is at the end of the tunnel with reshaping the portfolio. Just any thoughts.
That's right. I think we're getting to the critical stages of separation. 2025 was bumpy as far as amount of work we're doing and everything that we're throwing at our investors and our internal teams, but we're trying to get as much done as possible before the separation. So we have cleaner, more focused businesses after the separation. I'm really proud of where we're finishing '25 and what the team has accomplished. And like I said, 2026 should be an even stronger year for us.
Great. Mike, great to see you. Thanks for coming.
Thank you very much. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
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Honeywell International — Goldman Sachs Industrials and Materials Conference 2025
Honeywell International — Goldman Sachs Industrials and Materials Conference 2025
📣 🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kernbotschaft: Honeywell positioniert sich vor der Aufspaltung als drei fokussierte Einheiten; CFO hebt dreimaliges "beat and raise", gezielte Reinvestitionen in Forschung & Entwicklung und schnellere New Product Introduction (NPI) sowie strukturelle Vereinfachung hervor. Orders und Backlogs sind hoch; Quantinuum reift; Management erwartet 2026 als deutlich stärkeres Jahr.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Investitionen & NPI: Reinvestitionen in F&E und engere Verzahnung von Engineering, NPI und Produktmanagement zur Beschleunigung von Time‑to‑Market und organischem Wachstum.
- Separation: Aufspaltung in drei fokussierte Gesellschaften soll Investitionsflexibilität und Bewertbarkeit erhöhen; strukturelle Bereinigungen (z. B. Asbest) laufen.
- Software & Service: Forge‑Plattform als Hebel für outcome‑basierte Services und wiederkehrende Umsätze; Software dient als Skalentreiber in Building und Automation.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Neue Infos: Keine neue quantitative Guidance im Talk. Management kündigt formelle 2026‑Prognose und Update zur strategischen Prüfung (Intelligrated/PSS) zum Zeitpunkt der Guidance an. Wichtig: starke UOP‑Orderbücher, anhaltend hohe Orders, Quantinuum‑Fortschritt, IPO‑Timing offen.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Aero‑Margen: Kernfrage, ob Margenboden erreicht ist; Management sieht Erholung durch Akquisitionsintegration, bessere OEM‑Preisverhandlungen und Produktivitätsgewinne.
- Tarife & Preise: Diskussion über Preisdurchsetzung; CFO nennt ~3% Preisbeitrag, der Tariferosion ausgleichen soll; Building Automation holte Preise schneller als Aero.
- UOP‑Pipeline: Starker Auftragsbestand (u.a. Großprojekte wie Dangote), aber kurzfristiger Margendruck; Erholung wird für 2. HJ 2026/folgende Jahre erwartet.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Honeywell zeigt aktives Re‑Shaping: operative Vereinfachung, NPI‑/Software‑Fokus und ein hoher Auftragseingang stützen die Erwartung für ein deutlich besseres 2026. Konkrete Zahlen fehlen noch — entscheidend sind die bevorstehende 2026‑Guidance und das Update zur strategischen Prüfung.
Honeywell International — Baird 55th Annual Global Industrial Conference
1. Question Answer
Good morning, everyone. My name is Peter Arment, I am senior aerospace defense analyst here at Baird. Thanks for joining us today. With us, we have Honeywell International. And with us from Honeywell, we have Jim Currier, President and CEO of Honeywell Aerospace.
Jim has served as President and CEO of Honeywell Aerospace Technologies since August '23, previously spent two decades in a ton of senior roles across the globe with Honeywell, President of the Electronic Solutions business, President with company's Aftermarket Organization across Europe, Middle East, Africa and India, Vice President of the Airlines, North America, and last week, Honeywell announced that he will lead the Aerospace -- Honeywell Aerospace as President and CEO following the planned spin-off as an independent publicly traded company in the second half of '26. So congrats on that. That's fantastic, and welcome, Jim.
Maybe we'll just start with that spin-off. You've announced that that's on track for the second half of '26. And it's going to be positioned as one of the largest pure-play aerospace suppliers out there, which is very exciting. Maybe can you share just kind of your vision, how you view it as a stand-alone company and any strategic advantage you expect to unlock post the spin-off?
Yes, absolutely. I think a couple of things I would say is, first and foremost, I truly feel Honeywell Aerospace is exceptionally well prepared for all the new opportunities that are going to be presented to us in a post spin state as a pure-play stand-alone. We have an exceptionally talented and experienced leadership team.
We're going to have an investment grade balance sheet as well that's going to afford us a lot of opportunities going forward. I think as well as the announcement that came out last week about me, we also announced that Craig Arnold is going to be our Chairman of Honeywell Aerospace, and there could not be a greater leader. He partnered up with me to be able to drive the business into the next decade and beyond going forward.
I think when I think about the benefits afforded to us by the separation, I think along two parallels. One, first and foremost is just being able to be exceptionally focused, laser-focused on just the business itself strategically and from a tactical perspective. We're going to be able to not to worry about any other activities occurring outside of aerospace as being a part of Honeywell.
Everything we do, every decision we make will be foundationally rooted in driving the aerospace business for Honeywell going forward. And then there's a second element, which is financial flexibility right? We'll have all the decisions around capital allocation, will reside within Honeywell Aerospace and the leadership team.
There'll be no more sort of competing for capital across the rest of Honeywell, whether that's capital for allocation purposes and factories, capacity expansion or that's capital for M&A activity as well. So again, all that flexibility driven by a complete element of being laser-focused on the business, I think, is a great benefit afforded to us by the separation and by the spin.
And that ultimately underlies the underpinnings that allows us to actually accelerate and become more amplified as a pure play and really driving the most technologically advanced innovative solutions for our industry, solving exceptionally complex problems that exist today, which is where we currently play. The investments that we make on new technologies, new products, and new services, again, all of that underpinned by the benefits afforded to us by the separation.
Got it. Yes. That's terrific. Well, maybe let's start with a little bit of a high level for the audience. Maybe describe how you view kind of the portfolio when you think about it, it's so diversified, whether it's by product or by market. And you've been able to -- and that has allowed you to really manage the cycle across, take advantage of some opportunities, maybe describe that for the audience, the portfolio.
It is a broader portfolio, to your point, as you mentioned, among products and end markets that we serve. So I'll touch on the end markets for a moment. Currently today, we provide products, technologies and solutions that support either commercial air transport, business aviation or defense aerospace. That ability to service multiple end markets typically provides currently today, all end markets [Audio Gap] we are essentially nose to tail on an aircraft.
We are divided out amongst three strategic business units, electronics solutions, digital power systems, radar control systems business and within each of those electronics solutions as an example you can think of so avionics, flight management systems, flight control systems, surveillance, radar systems, flight controls. Moving to the engine, and the power system business, you can have business jet engines, military engines, APUs across multiple end market segments, electric power distribution systems as well, electric power generation.
And then you move into the control systems portion of the portfolio, anything around environmental control, cabin pressurization, thermal control, friction control with our wheels and brake systems, fuel control systems on commercial engine aircraft going forward.
So again, when you think about the breadth of that portfolio, it is nose to tail. And again, it's multiple end markets that we serve as a result. And I think that provides a really interesting backdrop to enable us to be very resilient and also very to be able to drive the growth of this business.
Yes. So it is incredibly diversified and obviously, provides a lot of visibility too. I was also, I think, also considering kind of an industry-leading cost structure when we think about your portfolio. What are some of the key investments that have enabled this and how do you think about that?
I think the underpinning of our margin performance that we have seen over the years is really foundationally built upon our operating system that we have. It is a cohesive, fully integrated operating system, not only within the businesses, but within the functions as well, and that operating system is underpinned around productivity, efficiency, resilience and margin expansion.
So that has been an enabler for us to drive the margin performance that we've seen over the years. One point of clarification is we've done that not at the expense of under-investing in new products and new technologies. If you look at as a percent of revenue of what we invest in new products and new technologies, it is at or above where our peer set is today in the aerospace industry.
Now what I will tell you though is that over the last couple of years under my tenure here from the last 2-plus years or so, I have been very, very dedicated and diligent around investments to set the company up and sustain a 10-year-plus growth profile. So that could have been investments that we were making in the supply chain, that we're making in new products and new technologies that I mentioned a moment ago.
But that really is the setup for the complete 10-year sustained growth trajectory. And with that over the last couple of years, the margins have been a little bumpy as a result of those investments that I'm making. But I would tell you, I think we really kind of hit the floor in Q2 as a result of that. And now you saw from our performance in Q3, some margin expansion largely attributable to volume leverage that we're getting as well and through the investments that we've been able to make to drive the volume output of the factories.
But it's also going to be a tailwind for us going forward through these investments, right? We've got integration activities and costs that will be falling off the books going forward. The volume leverage that I described a moment ago as well, the continued efficiencies on the operating system that we have across Honeywell Aerospace.
And then also as you think midterm horizon, as we have a lot of our long-term agreements that we have in place, there will be pricing opportunities that will present themselves. So I think you'll continue to see this margin progression increasing throughout Q4 through 2026 and beyond.
Was there any structural cost takeouts kind of with COVID or anything along those lines that you kind of were able to address?
We did adjust the business as a result of the COVID impact that happened. We looked at areas whereby customer interactions, customer-facing, supply chain challenges that we had or supply chain enabling activity that was occurring. So there was some cost takeout that was made as a result of doing that. But we reinvested back into all of that ultimately to give us the supply chain resilience that we need going forward.
Okay. That's helpful. Let's switch and talk a little bit about the aircraft market. I think you guys again have a very good insight into both air transport and business aviation. What's your view of where we are? And I think we all kind of accept that maybe we should be entering a more normalized environment because we've had such a snapback post COVID. But how are you viewing the kind of the market?
So I look at it from two different end markets that we serve, business jet and then commercial and transport. If I focus on the business jet aspect just for a moment here. Clearly, coming out of COVID, there was a massive snapback in terms of flight hour growth in the business jet market. It got to a point where it was about 20% above what it was pre-pandemic levels. We saw a little bit of a regression to that, normalized going forward. And I think that's going to be steady state going forward, like low single digits in business jet going forward, again, consistently with what we've seen recently and consistently going forward.
But I'll tell you on the air transport market, I still think there's opportunities for continued growth there. I think it's stronger than what we're seeing in business jet as an example. The point there being is that in the U.S., we've largely recovered to pre-pandemic levels, but we are still considering to see a lot of growth in Europe, Middle East, India, the Asia Pacific region in air transport, and those will continue to be growth drivers for us as an enablement for our growth going forward.
But the one thing that I would say about flight hours and coupling flight hours to revenue, right? That's a direct almost a one-to-one correlation. The more you fly, the more you repair, the more you overhaul. And so you can see a growth calculation associated with that.
We've been very fortuitous in that we actually able to outgrow what the aftermarket is doing in terms of flight hours. And what we've done there is through a substantial amount of investment that we've made in what we call retrofit mods and upgrades. These are products and services where we are upgrading the aircraft with latest features, latest functions, latest capabilities, safety enhancements as an example. And that becomes what we call decoupled growth. It's not tied to the flight hours.
It's just providing value-added offerings, value that's perceived by operators of aircraft to drive this additional growth. And that's become a huge growth enabler for us that allows us to outgrow the aftermarket. The revenue associated with that is about 10% of the total portfolio. We've been on this trajectory for quite some time.
The growth that we've seen there over the last 3 years has been about 20%, 10% year-on-year is what we've been seeing going forward. So that is truly that enabler that you have your coupled growth that happens in the aftermarket tied to flight hours. And through our investments in new products and new technologies and value-added offerings, we are able to sell those products and create a decoupled revenue profile or a decoupled revenue stream that allows us then to outgrow the aftermarket.
When thinking about aftermarket, I remember years ago that you guys always kind of highlight how many software engineers that you have and how that allows you to kind of address there's additional services that can be done. Have you seen any pickup there regarding when you think about software and impacting your business?
We have. I mean we have roughly across our organization about 11,000 engineers. The majority of them are software engineers. That is really where a lot of the value-added offerings come, particularly when you think about integrated cockpits. So the thing to remember is that when you introduce a product for the first time onto a platform, that aircraft is going to fly for 20 to 30 years or more.
And it's constantly going to be evolving and needing new technologies, new safety standards, new mandates that are coming in. And having that footprint or that real estate on the aircraft with the breadth of the portfolio that we have nose to tail, 90% of the aircraft flying in the free world today have Honeywell content on board. It's a very fertile ground for these RMUs, and many of them are software upgrades to bring those features and functions into the cockpit driven by reliability, safety and other value-added features.
Yes. So I was going to ask about it later, but the supply chain is kind of a critical focus. So -- and it's related to this business because we've seen a lot of -- there's going to be a lot of pressure on the OE production ramp going forward just because of where both OEMs, Boeing and Airbus want to go. How are you thinking about the supply chain health and your ability to kind of support what's going on?
So when I look at the supply chain, given the breadth of the portfolio that we have, I tend to bifurcate it. I look at the electronics portion of the industrial supply base and the mechanical portion of the industrial supply base. And the reason why I do that is that the underlying issues that existed across our industry in terms of capacity or the lack thereof to supply or to support the demand that is necessary is very different between both of those industrial supply chain segments.
The electronics portion has recovered very well across our portfolio. I would indicate that it's fully recovered, to be honest with you. The mechanical side, although it has progressively gotten much better, there are still pockets of continued constraint that exists. And you can kind of think about forgings, castings, complex machining operations, outside special processing that's required of these parts for our aerospace industry.
And a big difference in the mechanical space is that it's a very fragmented industrial supply base. You have a lot of small family-owned businesses that are in that sector doing the machining that came under a lot of financial pressure during COVID and coming out of COVID.
So what we've done, so it's gotten much better. We've seen now 13 quarters for Honeywell Aerospace of double-digit volume output from our factories, and it's largely attributable to a lot of the investment that we've been making.
Since 2021, we've invested over $1 billion into the supply base. Now that could be from workforce needs and expansion required, capacity expansion, test equipment, capital equipment, in-sourcing to provide additional capacity, outsourcing or finding alternate sources, I should say, to find additional capacity to support the demand coming into the industry.
And a lot of that, quite frankly, was done directly into those fragmented suppliers. They didn't have the ability to buy capital. They didn't have the ability to buy the necessary test equipment or the equipment to manufacture parts at scale that is necessary. We went in and bought those on their behalf to be able to, again, drive capacity to be able to supply what we need in terms of the demand that's required.
Can you talk a little bit about your visibility into that supply base because it seems like you guys really have made a lot of -- stepped up and made a lot of investments there so you can see down into those levels. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Yes. I mean, so the visibility has greatly amplified over the last couple of years and largely as a result of the direct investments. The other part that I would say where we've invested is that we have embedded hundreds of people from our organization within Honeywell Aero into suppliers. And so you do get that direct visibility.
And one of the things that we had noticed as going through that process is that due to some of these smaller shops that have been a little cash strapped, they weren't placing orders for the material, right? And so they were managing their cash flow. Well, unless you had boots on ground in those factories, in those offices and with the leadership and owners of those factories, you would have had that visibility. So now we've had that.
And so we've been actually now driving cash, buying the castings, buying the forgings. And so that visibility has greatly increased for us across the board. But again, there's still some of those pockets, right? I mean there's still much in the way of opportunity for improvement going forward. But again, that's sort of a pan-aero industry-wide issue that I think collectively, we've all been addressing.
Got it. Yes, that's helpful because I mean, it's been -- I think that's been the -- we all kind of understand where the OEM volumes are going, but we -- it's been the supply chain hiccups that I think surprised people. Let's switch over to defense a little bit. It's a huge end market for you. Maybe you could talk about how you're viewing defense in the short and maybe medium term.
Yes. I mean so I mean, when we talked about the breadth of that portfolio, one thing I didn't mention was how our revenue is split between commercial and defense. So 60% of our business is commercial, 40% of our business is defense. And if you think about the defense portion of our portfolio, 75% of the revenue within defense itself in that end market segment is domestic defense and 25% of it is international defense.
And to clarify, because I get asked this question a lot. When I get asked about international defense, people assume that it's foreign military sales, FMS sales that we're doing. That is not the case that when I talk about Honeywell Aerospace's international defense business.
We treat FMS sales as a domestic sale because the end use of said product is unknown necessarily. So we treat that as a domestic sale. So when I think of 25% pure international as part of our defense portfolio, that is direct sales to governments, ministries of defense and international primes, right? And so that is -- and that is the high-growth area for us.
And so when you think about the domestic and the international market segments, you're seeing a lot of investment happening here with this administration and the opportunities that's going to present to us and where we're well positioned on the platforms where the investments are occurring.
Golden Dome would be one example amongst many. And the second element is internationally. You see continued emphasis and focus on increasing budgets within NATO, increasing budgets within the Indo-Pacific region as well, for which we're well positioned with our products and our technologies.
And so we will capitalize on that going forward for us, and we see that as a substantial growth driver for our business. And the thing that I would say is how we're capitalizing on, particularly in the international market segments where there's a substantial amount of investment that's coming forth through governments and through NATO and the like is out of those 11,000 engineers that I mentioned a moment ago, about 1,000 of them are based in Europe. And they're doing nothing but developing non-ITAR technologies to support the international defense industry and not just for Europe, is to be able to take those products internationally and abroad.
And we saw that shift that was happening years ago in the international defense market and domestic. And we've kind of shifted our strategy and our approach to make sure that we were developing non-ITAR technologies and capability in the region. And one of the underpinnings of what we did relative to that was an acquisition of a company called Civitanavi in Italy, provides inertial navigational units for us, high-performing, low-cost, non-ITAR, smaller company.
We provide them the scale to bring those products onto the international stage that is necessary as well as they have a manufacturing capability there in Italy as well. So no longer are we just designing products in Europe for European defense application, but now we're going to be manufacturing products as well in region to support the growth that's happening there.
Yes. You're seeing that the NATO uplift in spending or the planned uplift in spending, they're kind of looking for that indigenous capability and you guys seem like well positioned there.
Correct. Correct. We've been investing and focusing on that area for that indigenous capability.
You mentioned Golden Dome. Could you just highlight how you think about Golden Dome for Honeywell?
Golden Dome for me is just -- it's a constellation of products and technologies and services that all must interact with one another to provide the protections that are necessary and as dictated by the Golden Dome.
So you can think about missile technology and the like as being a part of that. Most of our navigational products that we provide, electromechanical actuation systems to steer many of these missile systems is where we have a strong, strong presence as a result of Golden Dome and the continued investments that are happening there and elsewhere around the world for that matter.
So most of these systems have our inertial navigational systems on board. Most of them have all the resilient navigation systems on board as well. If we think about another company that we acquired last year, which was CAES, they have tremendous technologies and capabilities in terms of electronic warfare, so anti-jamming of systems on board either our aircraft and/or onboard our missile systems.
So now you've got anti-jamming capabilities that we provide on the missile systems in support of Golden dome, our navigational products on these missile systems to support activities on Golden Dome and electromechanical actuation systems as well for steering capabilities on these systems.
So when we think about international, you mentioned the 25%. So is it -- we should think of that as more of a direct commercial sale versus kind of how we're thinking about kind of a margin opportunity?
Yes, exactly. And it's a good point that you bring that up. It is a direct commercial sale. And so with that, it brings margins that are very accretive compared to our typical defense portion of our portfolio. And again, that's part of what we also do even within our industrial needs here in the U.S.
We develop commercial and we sell commercial pricing as a result of developing on our own dime, and that helps us to drive additional margin capability within our Defense & Space business.
So you've mentioned the M&A that you did in the last year or so and that was new for a while. We hadn't seen Honeywell Aerospace kind of lean in on the M&A front. Maybe just can you talk about -- you mentioned the attractiveness of those businesses, but how the integration has gone? And then how you're thinking about M&A going forward?
Yes. I mean, so the integrations have gone exceptionally well. We've just passed the 1-year mark on both of those companies that we acquired. I could not be any more pleased with how the integration has progressed. And in fact, the performance out of those businesses as expected and through the synergies that we were bringing as part of combining those businesses within Honeywell Aerospace have actually exceeded our expectations from a TVA perspective.
So we're very pleased with how that has progressed. And you're right, we hadn't done much M&A, at least not to that scale historically over the years, and it kind of goes back to one of my earlier points that I made, which is, there's a lot of competition for capital within Honeywell International.
There's a lot of competition for dollars to do M&A activity as well, which now, as I mentioned, is one of the benefits of the separation that we can kind of control that. We're not competing in that regard. It is foundational to our growth strategy going forward, I will tell you.
I look at the business and I look at growing a business in 3 ways. You can do it organically, inorganically, partnerships or JVs. Those really are the 3 principles to be able to drive the growth of the organization. We've done an incredible job on the organic side.
We're now dipping our toe back into the water on the M&A side, and I think we've been able to prove that we have a right to acquire companies because that integration has gone well and the financial performance is exceeding expectations, and we've got a very deep pipeline of other properties that we're very interested in as we go forward. So it will be a critical third leg of the stool, so to speak, in terms of our growth strategy to continue doing and exercising the M&A muscle.
That's great. That's great to hear. Backlog, I think it's a massive backlog, $39 billion, I think, last time, and you had strong book-to-bill. How are you thinking about just kind of the overall -- the visibility, how that rolls off as we think about the kind of the environment with the backlog?
Yes. I mean -- so you're right. I mean the backlog is at an all-time high for us at Honeywell Aerospace, book-to-bill of about 1.2. We've had consecutive quarters of double-digit order growth as a result as well. So there's a very, very strong underpinning that's driving our growth going forward as long as we continue to unlock the supply chain to enable that to materialize and which we will continue to do and continue to invest because that is foundational things we're going to be doing.
What I will tell you is on the longer-term horizon, we have very good visibility in what's happening on the OEM front for commercial air transport. We also have tremendous visibility of what's happening in the business aviation side of the equation as well with the partners that we work with at the OEMs.
And we're getting that visibility much deeper through the funding that is occurring both domestically and internationally for our defense programs. So we will start to continue to see that. Now eventually, at some point in time, things do need to normalize, right? I mean like I mentioned earlier, we've never seen -- I've never seen in almost 3 decades in the aerospace industry, I've never seen where all 3 of the end markets that we serve have been doing so well and growing.
You're starting to see a little bit of a normalization on BGA. I think there's still tremendous opportunity in ATR in the air transport sector. And again, with the ongoing conflicts, the need to restockpile the munitions that have been used and/or have not been invested in over the last decade, I continue to see defense being a strong growth driver for us.
Yes. You guys are incredibly well positioned across the board. One last, just in the last minute or so, and it's not volume yet, but there's investment going on in air mobility and electrification and things are going on there. How are you seeing that evolve? Obviously, I think the -- we all know the critical hurdle is always certification and those always kind of move to the right, and particularly with the FAA today, there's obviously a go-slow approach, but how are you viewing -- how Honeywell is supporting that market?
Yes. So I think I have to start at the root of when we really got actively engaged in this a little bit because it will kind of explain where we see the industry today. So about 5 years ago, we stood up a stand-alone business within Honeywell Aerospace that was only focused on the advanced air mobility market segment.
We recognize that there are many nuances associated with that segment, nontraditional players, a lot of entrants, a lot of disruptors, a lot of entrepreneurial ideation going on and a need to move at speed. So we created this business, isolated. We called it a greenhouse, and all they did was focus on that aspect of the portfolio, and I think we've been highly successful in that regard.
We've secured many positions on multiple platforms, but we also knew very, very much in the onset that there's too many players. There will be a consolidation that will happen across the industry and some will rise to the top as a result of that. So we knew that.
But what we did is from an investment profile, we took advantage of the fact that there was so much investment that was occurring in that space that we actually ended up using a lot of those investment dollars that were coming in from customer funding to actually accelerate development of some of our franchise portfolio. Think about our Honeywell Anthem integrated cockpit, think about our Honeywell Assure electromechanical actuation systems and ATTUNE for vapor cycle cooling systems.
All of those large -- by and large, were funded coming out of that because what we do from an RD&E standpoint is we don't develop anything that is bespoke for a platform or for an end market. So even though we were tip of the spear in those developments with customer funding on those products that I mentioned a moment ago, we have secured positions with those products across traditional end market segments, whether it's commercial air transport, business and defense.
And so that has been a great enabler for us to maximize the efficiency of our RD&E dollars. Now going back to the market for a second. I mean that market will certify. Those products will certify. LA 2028 is sort of a stake in the ground that our administration has put in, in terms of wanting to demonstrate the capability on a global stage in terms of U.S. technology and the like around the specific end market segment. So it will happen.
These products will get certified, which is good, and I would say that the question really becomes the adoption, the ramp of said adoption, and we would expect that to happen sometime within the mid-2030s time frame where you start to see things at volume that then become meaningful to the business portfolio.
Terrific. Well, let's wrap there. We're out of time. Jim, thank you so much. Again, appreciate the support to the conference.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you. Thank you.
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Honeywell International — Baird 55th Annual Global Industrial Conference
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📣 Kernbotschaft
- Spin-off: Honeywell bestätigt die geplante Abspaltung von Honeywell Aerospace als eigenständiges börsennotiertes Unternehmen in der zweiten Hälfte 2026 (H2 2026); Jim Currier wird CEO, Craig Arnold Chairman.
- Strategie: Ziel ist ein fokussiertes, reines Luftfahrtunternehmen mit Investment‑Grade-Bilanz und damit größerer finanzieller Flexibilität für Kapitalallokation und M&A.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Portfolio: „Nose‑to‑tail“-Angebot über Commercial, Business Aviation und Defense; strukturelle Umsatzverteilung ca. 60% kommerziell / 40% Defense.
- Aftermarket: Retrofit‑Upgrades ≈10% des Portfolios, organisches Wachstum ~10% p.a.; decoupled‑Wachstum neben flight‑hours.
- Kompetenzen: ~11.000 Ingenieure (Mehrheit Software), ~1.000 in Europa für non‑ITAR‑Produkte; CAES und Civitanavi integriert, Integrationssynergien über Erwartungen.
- Supply‑Chain: Über $1 Mrd. seit 2021 in Zulieferer investiert, 13 Quartale mit zweistelligem Volumenwachstum in eigenen Werken; Elektronik voll erholt, mechanische Teile noch punktuelle Engpässe.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Timing & Leitung: Konkretisierung: H2 2026 als Ziel für Spin‑off; Führungsteam und Boardbesetzung stehen.
- Auftragslage: Allzeithoch im Backlog mit Book‑to‑Bill ≈1,2 und fortgesetztem zweistelligem Auftragseingang.
- Marge & Invest: Management sieht Margenbremse durch jüngste Investitionen als abgeflacht (Tief in Q2), erwartet Margenverbesserung in Q4 und 2026 durch Volumeneffekte und auslaufende Integrationskosten.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Für Aktionäre: Die Abspaltung soll operativen Fokus und Kapitalhoheit liefern; Wachstumstreiber sind Aftermarket‑Upgrades, internationale Defence‑Ausweitung und ein kräftiger Auftragsbestand. Kurzfristig bleiben Investitionen und Supply‑Chain‑Normalisierung marginalen Druckfaktoren; mittelfristig sollte die reine Aerospace‑Struktur Renditehebel und klarere M&A‑Optionen ermöglichen.
Honeywell International — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Sean Meakim, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. On the call with me today are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Vimal Kapur; and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak. This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website.
From time to time, we post new information that may be of interest or material to our investors on this website. Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to risks and uncertainties, including the ones described in our SEC filings. This morning, we will review our financial results for the third quarter, share our guidance for the fourth quarter and provide an update on full year 2025.
As always, we'll leave time for your questions at the end. I'll turn the call over to Chairman and CEO, Vimal Kapur.
Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. Honeywell continued its strong 2025 performance in third quarter. Growth in organic sales took another step up and finished ahead of expectations driven by our commitment to developing new solutions that solve our customers' most challenging problems. Better top line results translated into earnings well above our guided range, while strong orders across the portfolio demonstrate early results of our focus on innovation.
Our excellent third quarter performance is powering another increase in our full year guidance. We are raising our 2025 EPS guide for the third time this year even as we incorporate the impact of embedding spin-off of Solstice Advanced Materials. Barely 1 year since we announced our intent to separate Advanced Materials today, we are a week out from Solstice's first day of trading as an independent company. Our swift progress to this point demonstrate our ability to diligently execute carefully crafted work plans with speed and efficacy. We have the right resources in place to deliver on both our portfolio transformation and our businesses, financial and operational targets. We will carry the learnings and momentum from Solstice to next year's separation of Aerospace.
As we look to our future as 3 independent companies in 2026, we are proactively planning to realign the structure of our Automation business at the beginning of next year to reflect how we will operate going forward. This move is another significant step in our simplification of Honeywell, which will provide the strategic focus, organizational agility and tailored capital allocation to grow faster and drive value for all our stakeholders.
Please turn to Slide 3 for the latest update of our separation. A couple of weeks ago, Solstice held a well-attended Investor Day in New York, where David Swell and his new management team presented a compelling vision for the new Specialty Materials company and how its history and new independent strategy will unleash its growth potential and unlock long-term stakeholder value.
A week from today on October 30, Honeywell shareholders will receive new shares of Solstice, which will begin trading as a separate public company. I want to thank the team to achieve this important milestone well ahead of the original schedule to complete by early 2026. I'm extremely excited for the opportunities in front of Solstice, and I will be cheering on the success in the years ahead.
As our planned separation of Aerospace in the second half of 2026 approaches, our Board has been intently focused on assembling a Honeywell Aerospace leadership team with a right mix of industry, company and capital market experiences to maximize value for our customers partners, employees and our shareowners. [indiscernible] to make an aerospace leadership and headquarter announcement later this year. The separation of Aerospace brings the opportunity to further simplify Honeywell Automation. As a result, we have proactively designed a new, simpler structure aligned to the future of the business, which I will discuss in more detail in the next slide.
As we seek to better position the future independent Aerospace and Automation companies for success, we have opportunistically completed transaction to simplify the legacy liabilities left on our balance sheet. During the third quarter, we entered into an agreement to divest all our Bendix [indiscernible] liability on attractive terms for all parties. We also terminated an indemnification and reimbursement agreement with Resideo in exchange for $1.6 billion in cash. In combination, these transactions resulted in net cash inflow and to simplify and derisk balance sheet, providing the company with fewer administrative burdens and greater financial flexibility to focus on creating value for our core business.
On Slide 4, I will go over segment realignment in more details. We announced yesterday that we are planning to reorganize the Honeywell Automation segment into a simplified structure focused on cohesive synergetic business models. I'm pleased to take this next step in evolving Honeywell's streamline portfolio with the aim of unlocking incremental value and driving long-term growth and margin expansion. As such, effective beginning of first quarter of 2026, we plan to report 4 business segments. Aerospace Technologies, Building Automation, Process Automation and Technology and Industrial Automation. Ahead of upcoming Aerospace separation, this new structure serve as an elegant way to continue simplifying the RemainCo portfolio and align our external segment to the way we are increasingly driving our operations through consistent business models.
Our differentiated approach underscores our ability to grow our installed base in two ways. By selling mission-critical products through channels and by delivering strategic projects for our customers. We then mine this installed base by providing customers with high-value outcome-based solution with a combination of software and services. The three RemainCo reporting segment will be organized into 6 strategic business units with each of our businesses aligned to our unified automation strategy, enabling us to solve enterprise level challenges and help our customers achieve a new level of optimization with the Honeywell Forge platform.
Aerospace reporting is unchanged ahead of separation in the second half of the next year. The new structure will allow us to better prioritize R&D efforts, capital expenditure and go-to-market strategy with a growth mindset. Building Automation will continue to be a leading provider of Unified Building Automation Solution, delivering safer more sustainable, integrated buildings and infrastructure assets and [indiscernible] in its Products and Solutions business unit structure.
Process Automation and Technology is a combination of core Honeywell Process Solutions and UOP, the global leader in process technology. These businesses have developed powerful commercial synergies, enjoy a leading position in process market globally with vast installed base and share very similar business model characteristics. PA&T will report projects and aftermarket business units. Industrial Automations portfolio of products and Solutions businesses include mission-critical offering with proven reliability and tenured channel relationship positioning us to benefit from ongoing global re-shoring thematics.
With this realignment following the separation of Aerospace next year, Honeywell will be a premier pure-play automation company, leading the future of automation through high ROI outcome-based solution for customers, across a large addressable set of markets. And as we continue our journey of transforming the portfolio, I would like to highlight another lever of value creation with the recently announced Quantinuum capital raise on Slide 5.
Four years ago, we formed the world's most advanced full stack quantum computing company. It has rapidly progressed quantum technology along the path to universal for tolerant computing, a more than 2-decade pursuits than it is soon to be realized. Technological progress has driven fundraising momentum. Less than 2 years after completing an equity capital raise at a $5 billion pre-money valuation, the company announced in September a second raise at double the prior valuation. As important as the capital contributions will be to advancing the development of quantum computing at scale, the collaboration with new shareholders such as Quanta and NVIDIA in addition to others like JPMorgan, Amgen and Mitsui may prove even more critical. Quantinuum's fundraising efforts have led to new partnership that will support the development of critical applications for improving drug discovery, garment and military cyber security and encryption for large financial institutions.
While we are tremendously excited about the future of the business, we recognize we are not the best long-term owner, and it will eventually need its own capital structure to fully exploit its growth potential. As a result, Honeywell will seek to begin monetizing its stake in the company at the appropriate time in a manner that will create meaningful value for Honeywell shareowners. The most recent capital raise will sustain Quantinuum through that point in time.
I will now turn the call over to Mike to go through our third quarter results beginning on Slide 6.
Thank you, Vimal, and good morning. Honeywell delivered exceptional third quarter results, again, meeting the high end of organic growth and adjusted earnings per share [indiscernible] quarter this year. Organic sales accelerated to 6% year-over-year, led by return to double-digit growth in Aerospace and fourth straight quarter of high single-digit growth in Building Automation. Orders grew 22% organically from the previous year to $11.9 billion. While wins for long-cycle Aerospace and Energy projects led the way, the increase was broad-based with order growth accelerating each of our 4 segments and an overall book-to-bill above 1.
The results are encouraging and an early demonstration of our focus on growth through innovative new products and the impact of our increased R&D investments. This impressive commercial performance pushed our backlog up to yet another record which positions us well for future growth. Segment profit increased 5% from the prior year, with segment margin meeting the high end of our guidance range, led by ongoing margin expansion in Building Automation. Earnings per share in the third quarter was $2.86, up 32% from the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share was $2.82, up 9% year-over-year. As strong segment profit growth and lower effective tax rate more than offset higher interest expense.
You can find additional information on the year-over-year changes in the third quarter adjusted earnings per share in the appendix of our presentation. Third quarter free cash flow was $1.5 billion, down 16% from the prior year because of a capital expenditures timing and modestly higher working capital to support our sales growth. We maintain our disciplined capital allocation approach in the quarter, returning $800 million to shareholders while committing $400 million to high-return capital projects and completing 2 technology tuck-in acquisitions.
Now let's move to Slide 7 for a discussion of our third quarter segment performance. I will provide a brief overview of results with additional commentary included on the right-hand side of the slide. Aerospace Technologies grew 12% organically led by strength in both commercial aftermarket and defense space. Commercial OE returned to growth as expected as our sales recoupled to the delivery rates of our large customers. Orders momentum continued with strong double-digit orders growth across all three end markets, and book-to-bill of 1.2. On a year-over-year basis, segment margin decreased 160 basis points to 26.1% as commercial excellence and volume leverage were more than offset by cost inflation and acquisition-related headwinds.
However, sequentially, margin improved 60 basis points on strong quarter-over-quarter volumes supported by improved supply chain performance. Industrial Automation sales returned to growth in the third quarter, increasing 1% organically and exceeding our guidance range led by continued strength in our Sensing business. Segment margin in [indiscernible] Automation declined 150 basis points from the prior year, to 18.8% as commercial excellence and productivity benefits were more than offset by inflationary pressures. Building Automation again delivered high single-digit growth for the quarter. Organic sales increased 7% from the previous year, driven by strength in both building solutions and building products.
Regionally, North America and the Middle East led while Europe grew organically for a fourth consecutive quarter. Margin expanded 80 basis points year-over-year as we leverage our strong volume performance. Energy and Sustainability solutions performed in line with expectations in the third quarter, down 2% organically. Strong [indiscernible] performance Advanced Materials was offset by licensing and catalyst delivery delays in UOP. Segment margin was flat versus the prior year at 24.5% as one-time government reimbursement for past legal cost and the lift from margin-accretive acquisition [indiscernible] cost and volume headwinds. Let's turn now to Slide 8 to discuss our updated outlook for the year.
Our guidance for the year now incorporates the impact of Solstice separation from Honeywell at the end of October. The spin is expected to reduce 2025 sales by $700 million. Adjusted earnings per share by approximately $0.21 and free cash flow by $200 million. Even with this impact, we're again raising our 2025 organic sales and adjusted earnings per share guidance as we fully pass through our strong third quarter segment profit and net income growth into our improved outlook. On a like-for-like basis, our free cash flow expectations for the year remain unchanged.
Now I'll turn to Slide 9 to provide more deals on fourth quarter and full year guidance. We're taking up full year organic sales growth guidance by 150 basis points from the midpoint of our previous range. We now expect growth of approximately 6% for the year or 5% when excluding the prior year impact from the Bombardier agreement. This new outlook built upon our strong sales momentum in recent quarters, while maintaining a pragmatic approach in the face of elevated geopolitical tensions and macro uncertainty. Full year sales are now projected to be $40.7 billion to $40.9 billion. We anticipate a fourth quarter organic sales growth of 8% to 10% or 4% to 6%, excluding Bombardier, which translates to sales of $10.1 billion to $10.3 billion. For the full year, we now expect our [indiscernible] segment margin to be up 30 to 40 basis points or to be down 40 to 30 points, excluding Bombardier. We're anticipating modestly lower margins versus prior guidance, a result of reduced expectations for project licensing, Catalyst shipments and [indiscernible] short-cycle Industrial Automation products, which kept high incremental margins.
We are offsetting most of these headwinds by leveraging our strong volume growth and utilizing our accelerator operating model to implement productivity actions. In the fourth quarter, we expect segment margin to be in the range of 22.5% to 22.8%, up 160 to 190 basis points or down 120 to 90 basis points, excluding Bombardier. We now anticipate full year earnings per share of $10.60 to $10.70, up 7% to 8% or up 5% to 6%, excluding the impact of both the 2024 Bombardier agreement and the impending Solstice spin-off.
Earnings per share in the fourth quarter is expected to be $2.52 to $2.62, up 2% to 6% from the prior year or down 6% to 3%, excluding the effects of Bombardier and Solstice. I will give additional details on changes to the full year EPS guidance later in my prepared remarks. We expect cash flow between $5.2 billion and $5.6 billion, down 2% to up 5% excluding the effects of Bombardier and Solstice. We provide additional information on the changes in the year-over-year free cash flow in the appendix of the presentation.
For the first 3 quarters of the year, we have deployed $9 billion for share repurchases, acquisitions, dividends and capital projects. Going forward, we will continue to be opportunistic in allocating additional capital beyond that already committed to the highest return opportunities. Please turn to Slide 10 for details on our segment level outlook for the year.
In Aerospace Technologies, we are raising our expectation for full year sales growth to be low double-digit range, or high single digits when excluding the impact of the 2024 Bombardier agreement. We expect robust defense and space growth to continue as our supply chain is moving and our global demand is benefiting from ramping national defense budgets. Commercial aftermarket sale should expand at a healthy rate with [indiscernible] growth outpacing business aviation. We anticipate commercial OE sales growth to accelerate for the remainder of the year as our shipments progressively realign to build schedules. For the fourth quarter, we expect Aero organic sales to be up double digits or high single digits, excluding Bombardier, led by Defense and Space. Commercial aftermarket growth should moderate from third quarter levels towards the longer-term trend. Excluding the year-over-year impact of Bombardier, Commercial OE should grow faster than the prior quarter. We anticipate the second quarter marked the low point of Aerospace margins and fourth quarter margins will be comparable to deferred.
For the full year, margins are expected to be approximately 26% as volume leverage is more than offset by transitory integration headwinds from the case acquisition and cost inflation from tariff pressures temporarily outpacing pricing. In 2026 as pricing aligns with tariff costs. OE shipments of Electronic Solutions recoupled with build rates and integration costs from the Case acquisition subside, Aerospace margins are well positioned to increase from 2025 levels. For Industrial Automation, third quarter outperformance is compelling us to raise our full year top line expectations for a second consecutive quarter from down low to mid-single digits to down only low single digits. Positive order growth in the third quarter was encouraging. So it was uneven within both long- and short-cycle businesses, such that it would not yet be prudent to confirm a sustainable upward trend.
As a result of these mix dynamics and a more challenging prior year comparison, we expect fourth quarter sales to be down low single digits. Continued momentum in smart energy and steady performance in Sensing and Warehouse automation should offset modest demand headwinds in Productivity Solutions and Services and short-term project pushouts in core process solutions. We now expect to see margin contraction in Industrial Automation for the full year on increasingly unfavorable mix with similar margin performance in the fourth quarter.
In Building Automation, we continue to anticipate full year organic sales growth in the mid-single-digit to high single-digit range, supported by strength in the U.S., Middle East and India, and highlighted by robust demand in data centers, healthcare and hospitality. For the fourth quarter, we expect sales to be up mid-single digits with momentum from strong order across both products and solutions. Anticipate a fifth consecutive quarter of organic growth for products to be broad-based across 5 BMS and security. Solutions should continue to drive solid year-over-year growth in both projects and services. We expect margins for the full year and the fourth quarter to expand meaningfully as tailwinds from volume leverage and probability actions continue.
In Energy and Sustainability Solutions, we will limit our guidance commentary on Advanced Materials, given its pending separation as an independent company. We are maintaining our full year ESS sales growth guidance of flat to up slightly and anticipate fourth quarter sales to be down low single digits year-over-year. A difficult macro backdrop for Energy has weighed on our near-term guidance, but the long-term outlook remains strong. A third quarter increase in UOP orders of 9% is a signal of growing underlying demand from our customers, and we have good visibility into projects order strength continuing. On segment margin, we anticipate a meaningful fourth quarter contraction, resulting in a roughly 1 point reduction for the full year. Lower high-margin [indiscernible] in licensing sales are offsetting commercial excellence and uplift from the LNG and [indiscernible] acquisitions. While cost inflation market headwinds have presented a margin challenge in 2025, we're taking meaningful steps to address ESS cost structure and expect to return to margin expansion in 2026.
Let's move to Slide 11 to go through updates on our 2025 EPS walk. Our earnings growth attribution comment separate out the year-over-year impact of Solstice spin-off at the end of the month, which is anticipated to reduce adjusted earnings per share by $0.21. We now expect segment profit growth, both organic and contribution from acquisitions to add $0.63 to adjusted EPS for the full year. $ 0.10 better than our previous view as we fully flow through better-than-anticipated third quarter operating results. Third quarter out-performance versus the point of our guidance range benefited from a lower effective tax rate and reduced below-the-line expenses, which were also benefiting the full year. Fourth quarter segment profit contributions to earnings are in line with our prior expectations as better Aerospace growth offsets margin headwinds in Energy and Sustainability Solutions and Industrial Automation, as discussed earlier.
We anticipate reduced year-over-year below-the-line headwinds of $0.39 per share as repositioning will be at the low end of our prior range. Additional below-the-line details are available in the appendix of the presentation. We now expect our full year effective tax rate to be 19% compared to 20% previously, adding $0.30 to adjusted earnings per share.
To summarize, we anticipate 2025 adjusted EPS grew at a mid-single-digit rate when excluding the impact of the Solstice spin and Bombardier agreement. Now I'll hand the call over to Vimal to finish our prepared comments on Slide 12.
Thanks, Mike. Honeywell again exceeded its financial commitment in the third quarter as Aerospace execution returned that business to double-digit year-over-year growth, with orders increasing in each of our 4 segments, we are getting good returns from dedicating the right level of resources to creating new solutions to sell into our large global customer base. As just one example of our recent commercial success, Gulfstream recently announced that Honeywell's engines and avionics will power its new super midsized G300 business jet platform, which will offer superior range, efficiency and safety to [indiscernible] comparable aircraft. This win is a testament of our ability to stay at the forefront of leading-edge technologies that matter most to our customers. We are heading into the final quarter of 2025 from a position of strength with operating momentum leading us to raise our guidance for the third time this year, even as a shifting micro environment requires a high level of agility to deliver these results.
We are pleased by the performance of our acquisitions since 2023, which continue to help us shape our portfolio and deliver higher growth and margins. Our commercial and operational momentum are building into 2026, which will be a historic one for Honeywell. At the same time, we are operating with the same commitment to operational excellence that has defined Honeywell for decades.
While 2025 was affected by a number of headwinds, including heightened economic uncertainty, incremental tariffs and significant cost inflation, we have already begun taking action to position our Aerospace and Automation businesses to return to underlying margin expansion in 2026, as we prepare Aerospace to begin a journey as a leading independent company next year, we expect to begin 2026 operating under a new structure that aligns to how we will deliver the future of automation, giving us a running start post separation. Increasingly, customers across end markets faced similar structural challenges such as skilled labor shortages, aging infrastructure operational inefficiencies and elevated energy and maintenance as value creation shifts showers harnessing the part of data to solve enterprise scale challenges and achieve new level of [indiscernible], we are streamlining our business unit centered around cohesive business model for addressing these issues.
This segment realignment exemplifies our ability to simplify our whole organization to focus on actions that creates the highest value for our stakeholders, reducing distraction from legacy liabilities, reviewing strategic alternative for parts of our portfolio that do not fit our business model and acquiring complementary technology through bolt-on and tuck-in acquisitions all demonstrate our commitment to optimizing our business for future growth and value creation.
And finally, Quantinuum's recent capital raise and technological leap forward delivering the promise of quantum computing, which the company will demonstrate in coming weeks, move Honeywell closer to realizing the value of its pioneering investment in the space. With that, Sean, let's take questions.
Thank you, Vimal. Vimal and Mike are now available to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions]. Operator, please open the lines for Q&A.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
2. Question Answer
I just wanted to maybe kick off with the 4Q margin for ESS. And I'm just doing a [indiscernible], it implies 3 to 4 points of decline year-over-year. So I just want to make sure #1, that math is correct. And secondly, is the Advanced Materials Solstice spin losing 2 months of that. Does that have a material impact on that year-over-year?
So I would first highlight that within the ESS, we see LNG doing extremely well in that business. So that we see really good project activity, and that's progressing well. Orders are up. What do we see in the fourth quarter, we see a little bit of transitory, I would say, softness in margins, and that's predominantly driven by mix. So we see Catalyst pushouts to continue. It's affecting us in the fourth quarter. But generally, I would say that ESS will normalize as we progress through 2026, back to its historic margins. And then on Advanced Materials. Advanced Materials was a little bit, I would say, accretive to the overall portfolio, but we're working for that as we are setting up for 2026.
And Nigel, this is Sean. I'll just remind you that the ESS business in Europe, in particular, typically has a seasonal build and both volume and mix favorability from 1Q to 4Q. If you recall, we had an unusually strong second quarter, which we called out at the time. And so really that full year fourth quarter impact is not that severe. It's really just a timing factor of where things came in at second quarter versus traditionally being higher in 3 and 4Q. And so I emphasize just the timing is more of a factor than anything else.
Okay. That's actually my follow-up question. Number one, did we see these pressures in 3Q and this government service -- the government settlements maybe offset that? Just wonder if you can maybe quantify that. And then do you think that this -- we see that mix shift in the back in the first half of next year? Or do you have that visibility at this point?
So like I said, I think from the order activity standpoint, the order activity on big new projects is quite strong, and we'll continue to see that in the fourth quarter. From a revenue conversion standpoint, given these are big capital projects, they'll start converting to revenue probably in the second and second quarter and the second half. From a Catalyst standpoint, based on how customers order and ordering pattern, we see that improving next year as well, but don't see that volume in the fourth quarter. And like Sean said, we usually see a fourth quarter seasonal seasonality in the business, and we didn't see it this year because a lot of that volume came to us in the second quarter. So there will be a little bit of a gap in the fourth quarter as far as ESS margins.
But all things said, Nigel, we expect ESS margin to expand in 2026. It's a transitionary thing at the end of the day. We are positioning the business for growth. The LNG segment is doing extremely well. Sundyne is doing extremely well. The overall projects, as Mike mentioned, is performing at order rate of 8% growth in Q3. We expect solid Q4. So it's just really the transitionary effect on the catalyst volume. And we think that will adjust in 2026, and we should have a more -- year more on expected lines with expanding our margins in 2026.
Our next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays.
Just wanted to start with the IA segment. As it seems there's a lot of different moving parts inside it. You flipped to organic growth in Q3, I think for the first time in a couple of years, but it sounds like that will reverse in the fourth quarter. So just trying to understand, is that a function of something moving the wrong way, again in short cycle lower? Or is it more a function of the large project delays in the longer cycle business and trying to understand on margins. I think there was the comment on similar margin in Q4. So does that mean it's a 19%-ish margin? And are there any onetime kind of headwinds on that as we're thinking about next year?
Yes. So I would say, from my standpoint, the orders are looking, I would say, they were looking strong in 3Q. But as you know, we have a lot of timing variability as far as the larger orders, especially in our Warehouse Automation business. So we're monitoring that. But generally, I would say vis-a-vis where we started the year, we feel much better about the business and the progression. So from a margin standpoint, margins should grow sequentially in the fourth quarter for IA. There aren't really any one-timers, and the team is positioned to expand margins in 2026 as well. So we have good visibility to margin expansion in IA, going to 2026. Backlog is improving, that's giving us, I would say, good leverage from a fixed cost standpoint, and we have good visibility to pricing.
That's helpful. And then just my quick follow-up on the Aerospace division. Maybe give us some update on we stand on that de-stocking? Do you think it's largely behind you now on the Commercial Aero side? And should we assume that, that 26% margin rate, again, that's a good placeholder into next year, barring [indiscernible] in mix?
Sure. So super happy with how the Aero team performed in the third quarter. And I think you will see more good news from Aero team as we go to fourth quarter and next year. I would say, from a margin standpoint, 4Q '25 was probably the bottom. And you should continue to see sequential improvements on margins going to 2026. And on recoupling, I think that's largely behind us. I think Commercial, we will sequentially improve growth rates in the fourth quarter as well, and we should have a good print on Aero in 4Q and going to 2026, the set up looks really good. Orders again, were extremely high, high double digits, and our past backlog, even with us outputting at these rates continues to hang over $2 billion. So we still have a lot of work with going to 2026.
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Tusa with JPMorgan.
Can you guys just talk about the trend in the BA margin. Been really strong in the last couple of quarters, maybe a tad bit weaker this quarter than we were expecting. What's the -- what are the moving parts there? And how do you feel about that going into '26?
Steve, so super happy with the BA performance. And I think as we talked about it before, BA team still has a lot of runway. As far as the 3Q, it's really just a matter of mix between projects and products. Nothing, I would say, concerning there. And like I said, sequentially, BA will continue to expand margins. And in 2026, they have a really good I would say, really good setup and plan to continue to expand those margins. So no concerns on that business.
I was going to reinforce that the BA just reinforces the overarching Honeywell strategy on how we are pivoting our business through higher growth and margin expansion. So they are ahead of the curve on executing that, and I'm very confident in other businesses are going to demonstrate the same. So we do expect 2026 to follow the trend line observed in BA in 2025.
And then just lastly on the profile of the income statement. You guys made -- obviously, Solstice is coming out. You guys made these changes around the liabilities. Any thoughts around changing the pending accounting and how you're reflecting that in your income statement and is that something could happen before Aerospace goes or that kind of reevaluation of the [indiscernible] format?
So it's definitely one of our agenda items as we go over into 2026. We're actively discussing it. We understand your concern and your thoughts on pension treatment. I would say just based on what you see, we'll continue to simplify our balance sheet and how we report earnings to make sure you have a better visibility to cash flow conversion and EPS. So it's definitely on our agenda, but we're not ready to speak about it today.
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Davis with Melius Research.
I can't -- I know this is going to be a little bit lumpy, but I can't remember a quarter with 22% order growth. I know you gave some per-segment granularity, but was there any kind of discrete projects or anything big that generally move the needle there? Or was it across the board as kind of indicated in your slides?
It's more across the board, Scott. I mean, I think Aero continues to do extremely well, and they're maintaining their momentum of increase their win rates and backlog. We had a strong orders growth in building automation, which flows a lot of that in the revenue stream, which you have seen. ESS orders growth were very good and also in IA. So I would say that the order growth is across all segments, long cycle even stronger than short cycle, but short cycle is also growing. And I do expect the trend to continue in Q4. We don't expect any substantial change in the trajectory, and that's foundation of the growth-oriented Honeywell, we have been focusing on over the last 2 years, and the effort we have put in terms of our portfolio revitalization and focusing on R&D spend on the right set of projects. You can see the early effect of that, and I'm confident that things will get better as we go along into 2026.
That's helpful. And then switching gears slightly. You guys have done pretty meaningful deals in the last 2 years. And I think you previously said that was kind of 1% to 2% tailwind accretion in '25, I believe, somewhere in that ballpark. How does that flow through on '26 given what you're seeing in the deal models -- and it sounds like you're a little ahead of the deal models on that group of transactions overall.
Yes. So overall, Scott, I would say the -- the [indiscernible] are performing very well on an average or these are all the deals we did since I started at 12x multiple. And we are either on TBA or ahead of TBA in majority of them. And the foundational strategy we had that they will help us to grow our organic growth rates and margin expansion. They're really working very well for us. So I'm really encouraged. Maybe Mike, you want to add some specific feedback further on this?
Sure. So like Vimal said, I think majority of those deals starting actually fourth quarter and going to next year is becoming organic for us from a growth standpoint. And like Vimal said, there continue to be accretive and TBAs are ahead of plan, both on revenue synergies and on cost synergies. So we feel really good about these acquisitions and how they fit the portfolio, not only financially, but also from a from a technology complementary standpoint.
Our next question comes from the line of Amit Mehrotra with UBS.
Vimal, I wanted to ask if you can just talk about pricing strategy across the organization. You made a comment recently around pricing vis-a-vis wanting to preserve or protect volume. I forgot the exact wording, but it was something to that effect. And the question is really in the context if I look this year, revenue expectations are increasing margin expectations are coming down a little bit, fully understand there's mix, there's acquisition, there's [indiscernible]. But just wanted to understand if there's maybe a pricing opportunity in the future that is not being exploited today, either because of the R&D investments you're making or maybe just a more surgical focus on that post the spinoff of the businesses.
So thanks, Amit. I would say that fundamentally, our strategy has been that we want to preserve our margins while we keep our volumes to our expectations. So that has been the north star, we have been focusing on, and we have demonstrated that for the most part. I would say that if I look ahead in 2026, rising will become a good enabler for 2026 margin expansion. The only headwind we faced in pricing I'll call out in 2025 was just a lag effect. It's just the timing, we're learning something, and we can lack 30 days, 45 days. We are not going to face that event in 2026.
So overall, I do remain confident that our model of getting our margin expansion through pricing, while we're protecting our volume is really working. And some of the margin expansion we have seen in this year, the margins have been more flattish is primarily our focus has been growth. And there are some transitional issue items which have happened at this point, whether it is tariff-related cost hitting us in some pockets and M&A impact, et cetera. I'm very confident those are transitionary and you're going to see a strong impact in our margin expansion into 2026. Mike, anything to add?
That's exactly right. I mean we've been -- now with the team's focusing on 2026 pricing I think, for about 1.5 months. We have a really good plan and strategy laid out across our segments and regionally. And based on everything I see pricing will become stronger next year. And a lot of that is really driven just by tariffs stabilizing and that picture on inflation being much more clear the teams know what they need to deploy, et cetera. And then I would say, if you just look at segments. Aero was high on price this year. It's going to be a tailwind for them next year. And other than that, I think teams are generally caught up at this stage on pricing going to next year. So I'm really positive on price being better incrementally next year versus this year.
Okay. That's very encouraging. And just one follow-up related to that, just on margins. You're very clear about the trajectory for margin Aero next year. If I look at all the different pieces, they're all kind of converging, Industrial Automation kind of sticks out a little bit in terms of structurally lower margins in Building Automation and Aero. I think time, you've talked about maybe some self-help opportunity there, but maybe kind of talk about a little bit of the Industrial Automation margin opportunity from kind of the high teens where you see that maybe structurally the opportunity for that?
I mean, I look at Industrial Automation margin expansion, more than normal way. The areas we have seen our segment announcement last evening, we are going to focus in Industrial Automation on primarily the product businesses, by taking Process Automation out and reforming a segment of Process Automation and Technology. I think this really positions us extremely well. And on Industry Automation, that simplification now allows us to focus on how we have executed well on a classical product business model in Building Automation, really playing the playbook in Industrial Automation. So I do elect the pricing is going to play. We talked about it a few minutes back.
On the productivity side, we will see positive effect of both fixed cost and variable cost productivity. On the variable side, we feel confident on direct materials. And on the fixed side, base-lining the cost structure of the business aligned to the volumes we are seeing, we feel good about that where do we sit today. So overall the setup is good for IA. I think the -- what I'm really focusing upon is getting the business more to the higher growth momentum compared to what we are exhibiting right now. And at the right time, we also start looking at the M&A optionality, which we can bring to the business to further strengthen our portfolio.
Our next question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies.
Maybe first question on Aerospace. And I get some of it will follow on the next leadership team, which you'll announce later this year. How are you thinking about the biggest opportunities and the implications for margins as we think about '25 being a transitory year with some headwinds and just the evolution of OE mix next year.
Sheila, I would say the transition, which is occurring, we spoke about that in the last quarter 2. We definitely see the OE mix becoming less intense compared to how we started the year. So that certainly is a benefit to us. The tariff-related pressure which came into the cost under the margin rates of Aero would be let off a factor in 2026. And then the Case acquisition, which was adding as a headwind for our margins in 2025, would not be a factor. In fact, it will be a tailwind. So as I look ahead, all these factors, the confidence that we bottomed out in 25% margins in quarter 2, and then we are lapping towards 26% and higher that direction is very clear, and we are working hard to demonstrate towards that and better in '26 and beyond.
Great. And then maybe if I could follow up on the aftermarket, just nice acceleration there, and you called out, I think, some moderation in Q4. What kind of surprised to the upside in the quarter on the commercial aftermarket, whether Commercial Aviation, Business Aviation, was it recurring revenue if you just talk about that?
So I would say it was on the aftermarket, the growth is really broad-based. And a lot of that growth is -- demand has been very stable. A lot of the growth is also driven by us being able to unlock our supply chain, and I hope that continues. But from a demand standpoint going into fourth quarter, this business should grow high single digits on a normalized basis. So demand is still strong across the industry. And not really any particular drivers with the exception of supply chain performing much better than it did in the second quarter.
Our next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
First, I'd just like to say congrats to the team on getting Solstice to the finish line, or the starting line, depending on your perspective. We've seen multiple spins by companies, and we know all the work that goes into it. So congrats.
I appreciate the good words there, Dean, and the teams have worked really, really hard to get it done ahead of time. Our earlier estimate was Q1 '26, and we pulled it forward by at least 1 quarter.
Great. And then I missed the very beginning. Did you have any update on the process of looking at strategic alternatives for Productivity Solutions and Services and Warehouse Automation, any uptick on potential timing?
We kicked off the process of strategic review. I would say that in the Q1 in 2026, first quarter earnings call, we should be able to provide you much more definitive path forward. I think the work is in progress, but I do not have any additional details I can share with you right now. So we expect to -- when we are back in about 90 days, we should have more information for you.
Got it. And then on Industrial Automation and your comment that more of a product focus, it was interesting to see the call out about sensors, being in their fourth quarter of growth, and you called out healthcare sensors in particular. So we're now getting some additional insight into these businesses. Can you comment on the growth opportunity in the Sensor business?
Yes. If you look at our Industrial Automation look ahead, depending on what decision we make on our Scanning Mobility Business and Warehouse Automation business, the balance IA would be a product-oriented business where products are critical. These are related to compliance. These products are certified, and that's a fundamental model we're really working towards. And we also are conscious that IA would also become a pivot towards our U.S. on-shoring growth. So all those items are in play as we are thinking ahead about the IA portfolio moving forward.
Now Sensors is one of the biggest business there. We have positioned in 3 verticals in Sensors. Aerospace, Medical Devices and Industrial. And we have good run-up to this business in 2025. we expect to maintain that momentum in 2026, and we expect to provide now more segment-specific details in IA as we have simplified the segment. And as we have more conversations and discussions in the future, I look forward to providing you more details. But fundamentally, Sensors is one of the key part of the business, and we remain very optimistic on how this will perform in the times ahead.
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to follow up on the Industrial Automation portfolio. And specifically, I guess, the realignment slide from 15. I mean, I guess it seems like the only -- or I guess the only full business line being put into the new Industrial Automation segment, is that Sensing business, assuming Warehouse and PSS get divested. So I guess -- maybe any color on how much revenue is kind of being maybe pushed out of the process solutions bucket into that new Industrial Automation portfolio? And then more broadly, how do you feel about the scale of this Industrial Automation business? And is it an area where you could be looking to add assets?
Yes. So Chris, what we provided yesterday is more accumulation of our 2 years of work of simplification. We have been working on our portfolio, the spins work we have done, some of the strategic reviews, et cetera, I see the definition into three end markets, three verticals is an outcome of all of that. We are pleased, first of all, where we have landed ourselves, Buildings, Process and Industrial. Clearly, Buildings and Process have higher scale today compared to Industrial to your question. And -- but we are starting from a position from which we want to build upon in Industrial from a only product-oriented business, and we'll continue to see more opportunities on how we strengthen that. So more to come there. This is -- I first want to finish the unfinished task of the strategic review of Scanning and Mobility, Warehouse Automation. Yet to complete that work. We also want to focus on organic growth return of Industrial Automation to its baseline. And I'm confident that all that is going to take shape well in 2026.
And then we'll turn our focus into what else we need to add to this portfolio so that it becomes a meaningful part of Honeywell.
I really appreciate that. I guess maybe to follow up on Building Automation. And specifically, could you provide any color or comments on the data center exposure or opportunity there. I mean, our channel checks we're hearing more and more about controls needing to be more complex as the facilities get bigger and more complex. I historically, that has not been a big vertical for you guys, but it seems like you've done a better job breaking in there over the last years. So maybe talk about how you broke in and what is the opportunity?
Yes. So increasingly, Chris, data center is becoming a bigger part of our Building Automation business, certainly not contributing to the growth rate to a certain degree. We are -- I would say that our position in safety and security in data center is -- we are well positioned in that. Talking about more like 2% spend of data center is in the space. So [indiscernible] are small, but we have a good position in our Fire Safety Systems. We have a good position in our Security System. We are increasingly improving our position in the building management and we continue to work our way through to gain more share in that market. So certainly, a lot of hyperscalers, a lot of REITs are becoming our customer.
You may have seen a recent announcement also in our partnership with LS Electric on which we want to work more joint solution between Electrical System and Control System because we see a need for that by our customer. So we continue to improve our strategy, continue to improve our portfolio, and I remain confident that data center end market growth, which is occurring, will certainly help building automation business as additional -- as a vector to maintain their growth momentum. It's -- we were starting from a [indiscernible] position, but we are certainly gaining more and more momentum there.
Our next question comes from the line of Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.
So look, Vimal, you've done a lot from a portfolio perspective, a lot has been announced. I like this new structure, I think it very a least separates the different businesses. I guess the question is, as we head into the Aero spin in the second half of '26. Could you potentially see additional announcements on the portfolio?
I would say that, as we mentioned a few months back that based on the current portfolio assessment actions we have done, they are completed. But in the company of our size, you never say you're done, I think the portfolio revitalization is a continued activity. So I do expect us to do more additions which are bought down to our portfolio, which fits into the core of Building Process and Industrial. And I know if your question is, is there any more exit plan?
We feel good about the portfolio, what we have at the position we are today. These are all mission-critical parts of Automation. They drive very similar common outcomes like FT operational excellence, reliability, and they really help us to gain a lot of mining installed base through our Forge platform. So that commonality we have achieved with a lot of effort. And I don't see that there will be any material change we want to make on what we own, but certainly like to consider adding more on a bolt-on basis or maybe tuck-in sometimes as we finish our spins, and we'll continue to report to you if you make any progress on that.
Our next question comes from the line of Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
Maybe just back to the macro. Can you talk about the cadence of orders and revenue in Q3? Did you see any changes in your short-cycle businesses as the quarter shook out here into Q4. Are there any particular trends you're seeing by region? I think you mentioned some recovery is continuing in at least BA in Europe and China, but what are you seeing overall for Honeywell?
I mean I would say the biggest change, Andy, I saw was that we have growth across all parts of the world. That's not happened for a while. We have a solid growth in U.S. Europe is performing more like low single digit to mid-single depending on the business. So Europe is returning to an [indiscernible] growth. Middle East, India does always very well for Honeywell. And China is more flattish for Honeywell less Aero, but if you add Aero, we're in high singles. So it's -- I think that is a [indiscernible] part of what we are observing. I think it's the diversity of our portfolio and the end markets we serve are certainly helping us. And our focus on growth and creating new products, mining installed base, all those things are coming together. And I do expect, I mentioned earlier, a good Q4 also for the orders ahead. So it's not a onetime. We do expect to maintain this momentum for the rest of the year.
That's helpful. And I know you mentioned lower energy prices have continued to lead to some delays in HPS and UOP. But as you've said, improved orders -- give you more confidence that these businesses are going to turn higher in '26? And maybe what are your customers telling you about their CapEx expectations for '26?
I mean if you look at our ESS business, Andy, the positives are strong demand in LNG and gas. We certainly have a lot of demand and order strength in those. We also see investments made by our customers for more localization of refining and petrochemical capacity. So we see investments made across in India and parts of Africa, parts of Middle East. So those continue there. The only lack of momentum we have seen, which we discussed before, was catalyst demand. I think it's partly impacted by the oil price, partly impacted by some overcapacity. And we do expect things to settle as the year pluses in 2026. So long cycle demand is strong. That is evident in our orders rate of ESS. I think [indiscernible] demand is more flattish, but we do expect it to recover during the course of 2026.
Melissa we will take one last question.
Our final question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
I guess I'll just ask one since we're running over time. I'm curious how short cycle industrial trends kind of shape up throughout the quarter? Did things kind of remain stable versus how you exited 2Q? Or any notable trends that you would highlight?
I would say short-cycle trends are actually better in 3Q versus 4Q. And we do expect similar trends as you have seen in our guide, we are not expecting any substantial change quarter-on-quarter. But we always remain prudent in our guide. We don't know what we don't know. So -- but I think an overarching theme is very similar dynamics in the end markets, which Honeywell serves in between quarter 3 and quarter 4.
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Kapur for any final comments.
Thank you, operator. As always, I would like to express my gratitude to our shareholders, our customers and all the Honeywell future shapers across the world, driving our stellar results in the quarter, and our path ahead is [indiscernible], and we look forward to sharing more with everyone in the quarters to come. Thank you all for listening, and please stay safe and healthy.
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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Honeywell International — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
Honeywell International — Q3 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: Organisches Umsatzwachstum 6% YoY (ohne Währungs‑ und Portfolieeffekte).
- Orders: +22% organisch, $11,9 Mrd Bestellungen; Book‑to‑Bill >1.
- Adj. EPS: $2,82 (bereinigtes Ergebnis je Aktie, +9% YoY); GAAP EPS $2,86 (+32% YoY).
- Free Cash Flow: $1,5 Mrd (−16% YoY, CapEx‑Timing & Working Capital).
- Segmentprofit: +5% YoY; Aerospace‑Marge 26,1% (−160 Basispunkte YoY).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Guidance: Guidance zum dritten Mal 2025 erhöht trotz Solstice‑Spin; Management betont operative Stärke und Innovation.
- Portfolio‑Strategie: Solstice‑Spin am 30. Oktober 2025; Aerospace‑Spin geplant für H2 2026; Automation wird ab Q1 2026 in vier Segmente realigniert.
- Bilanz‑Bereinigung: Vereinbarungen reduziertet Alt‑Verbindlichkeiten (u.a. $1,6 Mrd mit Resideo) zur Entlastung der Bilanz.
- Quantinuum: Kapitalerhöhung beschleunigt Partnerschaften; Honeywell plant schrittweise Monetarisierung der Beteiligung.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Jahresziel: Erwartete organische Wachstumsrate ~6%; Umsatz $40,7–40,9 Mrd; Adj. EPS $10,60–$10,70.
- Q4: Organisches Wachstum 8–10% (oder 4–6% ex. Bombardier), Umsatz $10,1–10,3 Mrd; EPS Q4 $2,52–$2,62.
- Cash: FCF‑Leitplanke $5,2–$5,6 Mrd; Solstice‑Spin reduziert 2025 um ≈$700 Mio Umsatz, ≈$0,21 EPS, ≈$200 Mio FCF.
- Risiken: Kurzfristiger Margendruck in Energy & Sustainability (Mix, Catalyst‑Pushouts) und in Industrial Automation.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- ESS‑Margins: Analysten hinterfragten Mix‑Effekte und Catalyst‑Verschiebungen; Management sieht Übergangseffekt, Besserung 2026.
- Aerospace: De‑stocking/Recoupling offenbar weitgehend hinterlegt; Management nennt Q2/'25 als Margen‑Tief und erwartet Sequenziell‑Erholung.
- Industrial Automation: Volatilität in kurzzyklischen Aufträgen; strategische Prüfung von Warehouse und Productivity Solutions wird weitergeführt, mehr Klarheit in Q1 2026.
- Offene Punkte: Details zu Rechnungslegungs‑/Pensions‑Reporting und weiteren Portfolioentscheidungen blieben vage.
⚡ Bottom Line
Der Call signalisiert starke operative Dynamik: deutlich höhere Orders, beschleunigtes organisches Wachstum und erneute Guidance‑Anhebung trotz des Solstice‑Spins. Kurzfristig bleiben Margenüberhänge in ESS und IA sowie Spin‑Effekte zu beobachten. Wichtige Treiber für Anleger: Q4‑Margenentwicklung, Fortschritt bei der IA‑Strategie, Timeline für Aerospace‑Separation und Monetarisierung von Quantinuum. Honeywell bleibt kapitalrückführungs‑ und akquisitionsbereit.
Honeywell International — Morgan Stanley’s 13th Annual Laguna Conference
1. Question Answer
All right. Thank you, everybody. I'm Chris Snyder, U.S. multi-industry analyst here. No better way to kick off the conference than with Vimal Kapur, CEO and Chairman of Honeywell. Thank you for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
Just maybe starting off high level, can you update us on the separation journey? Has there been any surprises or unexpected challenges or anything that's just kind of maybe noteworthy that's come up in this process?
So first of all, thanks, Chris, for having me here, and welcome, everybody, and good morning. I would say the spin perspective, they're progressing on schedule. We'll have our Solstice business spun off in Q4 this year. The Investor Day is on October 8. So those interested definitely should attend. And then Aero spin will be second half of next year, about a year-ish time from today. So no major surprises there, I would say, from an execution standpoint.
The AM spin gave us a little bit of a warm-up of doing a spin and Aero is complexity is high. But we have a separate project team, which executes that. So there's a lot of work, I would say. But what surprised me to your question is the opportunity set as I've been more and more focusing on my new role as the CEO of RemainCo Automation. The opportunity set in automation with the confluence of cloud, data and AI is way bigger than I had hypothesized when we made a decision to separate. It was known that something will happen. And fundamentally, cloud is providing us ability to connect, which means that our ability to service our customer and our served, evolving market is going because friction to connect is basically 0. So if I was having -- not able to serve a market, so that's kind of a basic table stakes. So there's a benefit of able to serve my customers better, hopefully pick up more gross margins because cost to serve reduces, but I'm also able to connect enterprise versus a couple of plants, warehouses or building. That's a new dimension.
We were not able to do that 3 years back. If somebody says, give me visibility of 40 buildings, and we can just roll up our eyes because there was no technical solution to deliver. Now we can do that. But the big picture, which is emerging is not these 2, is really as we are connecting, Chris, we now have 20,000 customers connected. And the data which is coming and the data science behind it, which I'm also learning ontology, which cuts data across different sources and builds a new wide outcomes, it's a totally eye-opener. I was not a strong believer myself on the opportunities it will create. But what has happened over the last 6 months and the customer success we are getting has also made me an unconvert, which is making me exciting to your question, that's a fundamental shift on the confluence of cloud, data and AI, the opportunity it creates. It's going to transform automation industry in my view, and we'll see how we participate and take benefit of that.
And is that really the value that's created in the separation? You guys can now maybe better or more effectively identify opportunities, invest and capture that?
Absolutely. I mean the thesis is each company is on program for its own future. Its capital structuring is to enable it to execute its own strategy, whether it's Aerospace or Advanced Materials or Automation with its own management team, which is focused on that. So I think the thesis that separation brings more focus clearly is valid. I've been very conscious that we also maintain the scale while we are becoming thematic as an aerospace or automation in particular. We don't want to lose the scale and capability the scale brings. And I'm quite pleased on where we have accomplished that each entity, aerospace and automation will be about $20 billion revenue roughly, not precisely. And it positions us very well to go from that platform to create a higher scale and momentum.
Maybe last one on the separation. You guys have remained busy on the portfolio this year, both buying and selling. Is there anything big or material that we should be thinking about between now and the spin? And then with that, anything that you would talk about on Quantinuum?
Yes, sure. So I would say that one of the unique feature of Honeywell spin process is we are simultaneously also doing the portfolio work. which can sound a bit risky to say why we are onboarding more work while you already have this work. But my conviction is that we don't want to sit here a year from now and say, while we have done the spin, now we have to do portfolio work, right? So the portfolio we are building specifically for automation is built upon a promise that we are moving towards common outcomes. What we have observed is over the last few years, customers have moved around from hardware and products to common outcomes they want to drive energy efficiency, productivity, operational excellence, safety, cybersecurity and so on. So how do we have a portfolio which can drive common outcomes? We pick a few. We can't pick up like 25 outcomes. We prior to pick 5.
And then there's a commonality that this outcome applies in these verticals. So we have a higher amount of replication and more so with the power of data, the impact of that is going to be higher. So a lot of our portfolio work is -- was focused on that. I think where we sit today, after we complete the exit of personal protective equipment business and announced a strategic review of our productivity solution and warehouse automation, I think we're largely done on our current portfolio from any exits which were acquired. And on an onboarding perspective, we have made 6 acquisitions, 4 of them are in automation, 2 are in aerospace. I mean I won't say on additions, we are done. Obviously, there'll be more opportunities which may come in, but we are not predicated on that. Our earnings growth is not counting on some big acquisitions we are going to make. So I would say you can feel that we're going to be more stable on the platform -- on the portfolio work. And our goal is and when the spin occurs, our portfolio works, this innings is also completed, and we are able to then focus more on driving execution.
The last point you made on Quantum, I would say we did complete the Quantum fundraise. You should have seen the press release, $600 million, want to go up to $700 million or north of that. I think the good news is we are able to get many new investors. So that's what's unique about this round is money is fine. We, of course, need money to progress our cause. But a number of investors which have come in, that shows that interest in Quantum is going from modest to more people are wanting to participate in this. Now we really -- I really see the next step up for us is given that we got the funding we needed and we completed the Phase 1 of our journey on having a hardware platform, which we have prove on work. That's why people are putting money, is now onboard customers which can use Quantum to do applications, which classic compute can't do. This is that movement now.
And the 3 verticals our Quantum team is focused on is research and life sciences, how to discover molecules faster, banks and governments for cybersecurity on encryption. So each of these 3 customers in that sense, probably next 12 to 18 months, work with them on our platform and get that proof point to say, traditional compute can't do this, Quantum can do that. And that will become then the point which we are all waiting for. Then that's the point to say the business is ready for a new future, whether it's IP or other form of capital raise. But we think in the next inning of this. And earlier, the better for us as a Honeywell, we have been very committed. That's what we want to do. But we obviously do not want to run ourselves and get returns for our shareholders. I feel very pleased that we got $10 billion valuation. So goal, obviously, is we sustain this or we get to a higher level.
I appreciate that. Maybe moving to the businesses. You mentioned that you would be running RemainCo, the automation business. A lot of questions and interest on the Aero side. Can you just maybe talk about the process in identifying the management team there and maybe when we could expect some updates?
Yes. So I think one of the big decisions for obviously, for me and Honeywell Board is to now decide the management team of Aerospace. And we're really looking at a combination of 3 roles to satisfy 3 stakeholders because any decision we made that impact 3 stakeholders, of course, our shareholders, they want to know who is going to be the management team. The customers because they deal with the same people because it's a very narrow set of customer set. There are 10 OEMs and a couple of defense primes, right? This is not a very large universe. And then employees, there are 30,000-plus people. They want to know who's going to run the company. So we have to satisfy these 3 stakeholders. So there are 3 positions. We're looking at it to feed the interest of 3 diverse stakeholders. Nonexecutive Chairman. We think that this company will benefit from having an experienced nonexecutive chair for a period of time, the CEO and CFO.
And each of these roles, we are looking for options. All 3 internal, obviously, a bad idea, all 3 external, obviously a bad idea. So obviously, there will be a balance between the 2 approaches. And we do expect that we should be able to make announcement of this in the next 90 days. Which will be about a 9 months ahead of when we think spin will occur, give and take, right? You don't want to do it so early that it's irrelevant. You don't want to do it so late that people get -- don't feel comfortable not to know the management team. So we are in the process. That's what I can share. And when we are ready to announce all of these 3 roles or some of this, we'll communicate that.
I appreciate that. And maybe just kind of turning to the business itself, staying with Aero. Obviously, great growth the last 3 to 4 years. I guess how long do you think the industry can grow above trend or above normal? And how much visibility does Honeywell have into the Aero growth?
I mean this question, what you're asking, Chris, today, I asked that question to myself in late '23. And what we found at that time was the cycle is up for a long time and Aero business will become $30 billion in about less than 10 years, about 8, 9 year -- organically. I'm just not talking -- this is pure-play organic. So to answer your question, the growth is more longer term. And we believe that we do say mid-single -- mid- to high single. And the question raises when we are so convicted, why you put mid in front of it. I think that's really a question of supply chain constraints, which occasionally show up. It's nearly impossible in my view to show quarter after quarter double-digit growth perpetually.
So there's going to be some quarter in which you may not be able to do that given the complexity of supply chain, specifically on the mechanical side. But fundamentally, our belief that this business will perform on long term is very strong. And all the vectors, whether it's the OE growth is playing well. Defense has certainly become a new dimension of growth. Advanced Air Mobility is taking shape. It's a big -- we have a big amount of wins in our backlog in that. So all factors are progressing in the right direction for that business.
I appreciate that. Then on the margin side, the margins there have stagnated over the last 3 to 4 years, obviously, mix, acquisitions, tariffs. But you guys do have a -- I think, a 29% segment target out there. Maybe that changes post spin. But just in general, on that margin expansion, I guess, how do you see that trajectory? Kind of how do you see the cadence of margin expansion there?
So the margins for the business have been bouncing around between 25%, 26% this year. I think for -- I would divide the margin drivers in 2 buckets, what's more transitionary more in the near term and what are long term? There are 2 different drivers. The transitionary drivers are -- first is very simple, which will be over next year. We acquired CAES, a defense business. It has about 100 basis points of contraction on margin because of onboarding costs and all that. We've telegraphed that right in the earnings call. There's nothing new there. That's a known factor, which will go away next year. So that's an easy one.
The 2 additional ones, which are transitionary one is the OE mix continues to be unfavorable to the overall mix. And given the OE margins are lower than aftermarket, that obviously plays as a headwind. And then the last one, which was not there at the start of the year, which came in is tariffs. Now this business is able to pass along the pricing for aftermarket very effectively because either contracts are linked to some indices or if it's a spot price, you can obviously reprice it. But the OE contracts are long term. And the term of the contract will determine when will we get the price. It's an important point.
We are going to get the price, but timing may get delayed because contractually, it's not due till and hypothetically, for example, February of '26. So what should have been come in Q2 or Q3, it's not going to appear in '26. It's this outs of synchronization. It's not that business is not going to get it. It's an industry structure. And I jokingly tell to my team that somebody else's margin is inflated artificially and ours deflated artificially. So those 3 transitionary factors are occurring, which made the margins more closer to which was 27% to toggle around between 25% and 26%. We think that's going to remain stable. But there are 2 incremental points in addition to 3 transitionary points, which kind of makes the case for our 29%. First is our R&D spend is up.
Now let's say, why that's a long-term trend and why it matters. Our backlog is up to $70 billion. So if you have to deliver that backlog, I'll just take an example, the commitment we made to Bombardier last year of a $17 billion win. We have to do some engineering work. We don't have to invent any new product, but the engineering work has to be done to repurpose the product for that OE that requires money. That delivery or shipment may not happen until '28 or '29. But if I don't do the work today, that shipment wouldn't occur.
So in a way, the R&D cost going up is a positive signal for a business which is long cycle because this is not pie in the sky projects. These are contractually bound deliveries for which we have to spend money now because cycle is 3 years and stuff like that. And then the final point, which is long term, is the investments made by us in supply chain. They were necessary. They are necessary in the state we are in. We are getting the results of volume growth consistently, 10% for 12 quarters, 13 quarters now. But we have spent extra money from our pocket to get that volume, even though we are not bound to spend that money.
So at some point, the volume leverage of that will come in. So when you unpack it, it looks like all the things are coming together literally, and that does create some bit of anxiety is the margin story not there. But fundamentally, the foundation is very, very strong. It is just events coincidentally coming together, we just makes it -- margins look more static at this point. So near term, the earnings growth of Aero will be predicated by revenue -- top line growth. But longer term, it will become a combination of both top line and margin expansion.
Yes. So if I could maybe follow up on the tariff price cost. So it sounds like you guys are confident that you'll get the price. Obviously, the contract in nature means it comes through later. So maybe there'll remain some pressure there, but the rate of change is positive. You guys are kind of closing that gap.
Absolutely. I mean it's not a -- so if the gap keeps shrinking as you approach a particular milestone. So it's just a time lag issue. If the industry is structured that way, I wish we can change it. But I think every OE will go through the same -- every provider like us will basically will go through the same cycle.
Yes. And then just kind of staying with some of the more near-term Aero dynamics. The OEM destock caught the industry by surprise. A lot of companies were impacted by that. Production rates are going higher. So it doesn't feel like it will be long duration to that. But I guess how do you see that side of the business shaping up into the back half? And what kind of visibility do you guys have on that?
So I would say the -- what we mentioned during our earnings call, there was a synchronization between shipments we made to OEs, specifically in U.S. versus their shipments. So -- and it was specifically asked by these OEs not to stop our shipments even though when they were not shipping. So that created a synchronization. That's why the cycle looked a little out of sync. That's behind us after H1. So you would see the cycle converging in second half of the year.
And now from this point onward, there'll be much more similarity on the OE growth rate. It won't be exactly the same. So if OE growth, the curve will be similar shape, but we can be below the curve, we can be above the curve depending upon how many shipsets they already have from us. If they have less, we will be above the curve because they need more from us and if they have more. But the shape of the trajectory will be if somebody is growing 14% trajectory, you will expect from us similar rate moving forward. So that's definitely behind us. We are observing that as the quarter 3 is progressing. And we'll see as the results come in for Q3, we'll share the additional details.
I appreciate that. Maybe moving over to the automation business, which you will run. You guys have announced some -- a couple of big divestitures, warehouse, the scanners business, you sold safety a couple of months back. I guess how do you feel about the scale of that business as it becomes a stand-alone entity? And are there any areas in the portfolio where you see opportunity to add?
I mean, I would say the scale portion, obviously, as I mentioned, how do we find balance between the scale and thematic. And when we were going through this process, I talked to many of my peers who have gone through a similar process because many industries have gone through this. And I think one advice I got was we should not come to a point of thematic that we become irrelevant. So what is the finer point? And that's a balance we have been trying to do that have scale and commonality. So I would say in the state, we will basically serve 3 broader end markets, industrial, process and buildings. But what binds all of us together is the outcomes in these 3 are highly common. All customers are looking for operational excellence, looking for safety, they are looking for productivity. And we are focusing on commonality of outcome, which binds us together through our offerings.
And the things which did not fit well in those outcomes, we felt we are not the best owner, let somebody else own it. So our future portfolio will be actually driven by 2 drivers. One, can we strengthen an outcome? For example, we acquired Access Solutions. We were not strong in security outcome, which clearly feel more and more customers need that, so we should strengthen that, right? So it's more outcome-driven driver or a market participation, which is higher growth. And in these verticals, there are some higher growth end markets and some not so higher growth markets. So LNG acquisitions, both for -- from Air Products LNG liquefaction business, followed by Sundyne high-speed compressor and pumps are in our belief that gas is going to be a critical fuel of the future and LNG will be a big play. And therefore, those acquisitions add to our strength in those verticals while it sustain our business model. So I think fundamentally, that's essentially our mindset is towards that.
Our principle remains bolt-on. We are not looking for any transformational deals. We have worked very hard to simplify Honeywell. Now from this point, we do not want to divert and go into some different direction. So bolt-on will remain our primary theme. Some tuck-ins, too. Tuck-ins in my mind is more around an asset buy in which we did a couple in cybersecurity, a couple in fire detection, but those are more to improve the organic growth of our core portfolio. So that will primarily remain our themes around it.
Maybe following up on the building side, really good turnaround there over the last few year. It seems pretty Honeywell specific. We're not -- we haven't seen other companies in the space inflect like that. So I guess what's driven that? Is the Access Solutions, is that providing revenue synergies and just improving the overall business? And then what have you learned in that turnaround process that you think could be applied to the industrial side?
I think the buildings is an interesting story because we started working on it since 2019. We spun off our residential business in Q4 of 2018, and our history is instructive. So it's about 7 years back. Since then, we have been looking to transform the business, which is fundamentally the strategy of new Honeywell. We really believe in growth in 3 ways, 1 of the 3 ways. Either you pivot your business more and more to high-growth verticals so that you have natural participation in more activity, CapEx or OpEx or whatever the case may be. So that's lever one.
Lever 2 is how do we mine our installed base more and more through recurring services or software, more so software with the power of data and AI, which I talked before. And third, how we drive new products to participate in these verticals or participate in software, but also protect your core. Because if you can protect your core and take some share, you will grow even faster. So those are the 3 measurements we have, mix of high-growth verticals, mix of software and services and new products growth. Building automation is doing all of them well. And our participation in high-growth verticals there is definitely in data centers, which should not surprise anyone. We started late, but we have a good position in both safety and security in those -- in that business, but also participation in health care.
The world is building a lot of hospitals. It's not a well-known, well-advertised fact, but a lot of hospitals under construction and entertainment, hotels, casinos, people want to travel more. So there's a lot of consumption, so they are growing more. So their activity or participation in those 3 have increased a lot. They are far ahead in our connected strategy. That's a business which is leading the charge in Honeywell and connecting the installed base. And monetizing the data for new application. I'll give an example. We have more than 10,000 of our customers in fire business connected.
And our channel partners, in this case, can configure a fire system from their office. So why that does matter? I mean what's a big deal about it? Because they don't have to travel, they have extra hours to do more work. This is a small business with 20, 30 people for them, every hour is precious. And they really love this product. This capability we did not have 2 years back. So it not only gives us the recurring revenue to license that software, but it also buy more of my hardware. It's kind of a knock-on effect, right? So certainly, they are far ahead in that, just one example. There are many examples like that. And their new product performance is very impressive. So I think all that is coming together.
To your second question, the Access Solutions business, our thesis of sales synergies is playing out extremely well. Our direct channel, which we consider because the buildings whole business model is through channel, we have our own in-house channel. They are pulling a lot of Access Solutions business in the customers, specifically in data centers. So that certainly is becoming a big advantage for us. So sales synergies playing there are quite strong. But overall, the business is performing above our financial commitment already in first year of completion, primarily driven by sales synergies. Cost synergies, large company will execute well. That's kind of a table stakes.
But really ROI really returns come from that. But overall, I would say I just want to make a finer point on all the M&As we have done, the 6 acquisitions, the net multiples Honeywell have paid net of cost synergies is 12, without any sales synergies. And I have not approved any deal in which there is no sales synergy. We are not interested because you're not adding true value as a company. So net multiples will be obviously lower than that. So we are truly creating value for our shareholders in a very responsible manner versus running for an idea. So that's certainly quite playing well. And these acquisitions are accretive to our organic growth. Things like CAES acquisition we made in Aero growing high double digits, and it will stay there for a long time.
Access Solutions, we talked about very strong growth in LNG business, Sundyne business. So they all are really helping to propel the Honeywell organic growth rate. And 4 out of 6 are accretive to margins already. So it's a great story. I think the capability we are building, and we believe that will help us to shape our portfolio moving forward. And what we have done in buildings is the same strategy we are doing in process industrial, focus on high-growth verticals, focus on aftermarket services, both through services and software and then new products. That's going to be a story of new Honeywell. We are ahead in a few verticals, kind of work in progress in a few others. And as we come into 2026, I'm pretty excited on how our fundamentals are shaping up, and we are getting ready for the next year.
Appreciate that. And the industrial business and the building automation business, they both showed better organic growth in the first half of the year. I think you guys were the only company I covered to guide some of those shorter-cycle businesses actually softer in the back half of the year. It sounded like a lot of -- maybe some conservatism with whether macro uncertainty, maybe uncertainty around what's in the channel. So can you just maybe talk about what you're seeing on those businesses into the back half of the year? Was there some conservatism there?
Yes. Look, the business is performing on expected lines as we signaled during the second quarter earnings call. So we feel very confident on the revised guide we gave of $10.45 to $10.65. I believe we are going to deliver that. So just to reaffirm that point. I mean the short-cycle businesses are trending in the same way. But where we were cautious was the secondary effect of the current economic environment. As the tariffs get applied to countries specifically which are export-oriented, what happens to their domestic economy? I'm not an economist to figure that out. But clearly, something is going to go wrong or something is going to be negative. Similarly, the oil price hanging into $60 has a consequence of the spend of the energy company on the capital cycle.
So the secondary effect, I would say, were less clearer when we did the earnings call, and they were essentially saying, we don't know what we don't know. And therefore, we are kind of suggesting H1, H2 very similar but how things are progressing, and that's what factored in our guide. We are progressing well. And I think we'll learn more as the impacts of the tariffs really settle because they are really invoke for like 45 days or something like that, right? These are not deeply entrenched. So it's to be determined how this really impacts the different economies, which are in the receiving end of it because we cannot just look at it from the U.S. economy because Honeywell has 50% non-U.S. revenue. So we really have to look at it from the receiving side and how will they react to it.
Yes. No, I certainly share the same view on all those international markets. I guess maybe can you talk about the pricing environment? Tariffs, we saw the latest 232 go higher. Does that impact Honeywell's gross tariff expense? And just any commentary on the pricing environment? And do you think it's harder to get price today than maybe it was in the spring and maybe just excluding Aero on all that?
Yes. I mean, look, we've learned a lot during our pricing cycle of 2022 when inflation hit us on our face and we all kind of rushed through price raises. So I think this year, our approach has been how do we protect our margins while we protect our volume. And when the tariff discussion started coming, we basically went to our customers and said, what's your suggestion? Rather than saying we want to do price increase, and most people then agree, I think some price increase is necessary. So I think our approach to that has been -- we have been able to protect our volumes because what we have learned is that longer-term volume sustenance is more critical even there's a lag in pricing by 1 quarter or 2 quarter, like in Aero example. Yes, you can -- you may have some margin pressure for 90 days. But if you protected your volume, you will get the tailwinds eventually.
So fundamentally, I would say the market acceptance on tariffs is -- there is no real pushback, I would say, if you have the right set of conversation. But I mean, in our calculus, we are also factoring the productivity, which we are getting so that our margins are protected, right? So we are not kind of looking singularly as cost increase by tariff, you have to pass so much that you have to retain your margins. I also have to be conscious our productivity is strong. So I do have that lever. So maybe I need not pass all 100. I'm happy with 80 and that still meets my financial objectives because volume protection is the key here. So I think that strategy is working well.
My view is that the inflation -- the industrials typically thought about pricing as 1%, 1.5%, if you're lucky. It's more in the ZIP code of 2% to 3% or maybe 3% and a change because inflation is not only on the materials we say, but labor inflation continues to step up. And I have not seen any data which convinces me that labor inflation will come down. So that's going to remain stubborn, which means that's input to our product development, product cost, right? That's part of the cost, too. So it will remain in the similar zone in 2026. I have not seen anything which convinces me that the direction of travel will be changing. So I think our customers are appreciative. It's all about bringing transparency and being more accommodative when necessary.
Yes. I mean I agree with the point on labor inflation, and it does kind of reinforce what you were talking earlier about the value of efficiency and providing efficiency to a lot of these companies. When you kind of took over in the role, a big focus was to spend more on R&D as a true like organic growth engine for the company. Maybe on the automation side, where I would imagine that, that pays dividends quicker than on the Aero, how soon could we start seeing some payoff on the top line from the R&D?
It's in a way, if you see our organic growth rate was 5% in Q2 and 3 businesses grew at above that rate. So fundamentally, I would say the direction of travel has started. The cycle for us is typically from inception of a product to a commercial scaling is about 18 months. So it's not -- yes, it's not like Aero in which it's 5 years. So I do believe that you will observe the impact of that in different businesses across the board. One thing which I feel confident we have transformed in Honeywell is our ability to drive organic growth through new products. That made us make sure that fundamentals that we are not wasting any money. They are unproductive products. That's kind of table stakes. But really focusing on the right set of ideas, focusing on services and software, taking share in some categories. So I think all that momentum is really building. And we do believe that new product growth is going to be the signature of the new -- of this company.
And you kind of mentioned back to mid-single-digit growth, even with headwinds in Aero, we have some of the growth accretive M&A turning organic, R&D. I guess, what's your confidence that the company can maintain this mid-single-digit growth, maybe not every quarter, but over the medium term?
I mean my job is to create foundations. And I would say that fundamentally, how we are building Honeywell with the 3 drivers I talked about, vertical mix, mining installed base and new products, we are preparing every business to grow mid- to high single. The variable will remain the markets. If markets are normal or favorable, then of course, we'll deliver that. If markets are unfavorable in a cycle, then, of course, that becomes a variable. But fundamentally, the company we are building is towards that because we do believe for us to get attention of share owners, we need to be at least second quartile. And because we want to believe more in multiple secular trends versus just go after one for a long-term basis, and we are well positioned towards that, I believe it.
Well, we're up on time. Thank you so much, Vimal.
Thank you very much, Chris. I appreciate that. My pleasure. Thank you.
A lot of great stuff. I thought it was really encouraging...
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Honeywell International — Morgan Stanley’s 13th Annual Laguna Conference
Honeywell International — Morgan Stanley’s 13th Annual Laguna Conference
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Zentrale Botschaft: Honeywell treibt eine zweistufige Aufspaltung voran: Solstice (Q4 dieses Jahres) und Aerospace (zweite Hälfte 2027). RemainCo Automation soll als eigenständiges, auf Cloud‑, Daten‑ und KI‑gestütztes Geschäftsmodell agieren; Management sieht deutlich größere Chancen in vernetzten Services.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Spin‑Plan: Solstice‑Spin im Q4 2026, Investor Day am 8. Oktober; Aero‑Spin etwa ein Jahr später.
- Portfolio‑Fokus: Outcome‑getriebene Strategie (z.B. Energieeffizienz, Sicherheit, Produktivität) mit fünf prioritären Outcomes; Bolt‑on‑ und Tuck‑in‑Zukäufe bevorzugt.
- Automation‑Thesis: Cloud + Daten + KI erlauben Verknüpfung von Anlagen/Standorten; bereits ~20.000 vernetzte Kunden — neues Service‑/Margenpotenzial.
- Quantum: Fundraising abgeschlossen (~$600M, Ziel >$700M), Fokus auf Life Sciences, Forschung und Cyber/Regierung; Ziel: Kunden‑Proofpoints in 12–18 Monaten.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Akquisitionsstatus: Sechs Akquisitionen abgeschlossen (4 Automation, 2 Aerospace); keine Notwendigkeit für große Transaktionen vor Spin—Earnings‑Wachstum nicht von weiteren großen Deals abhängig.
- Aero‑Management: Board sucht Non‑Executive Chair, CEO und CFO; Bekanntgabe der Besetzungen innerhalb ~90 Tagen erwartet.
- Backlog & Invest: Backlog ~$70Mrd; höhere R&D‑ und Supply‑Chain‑Investitionen treiben mittelfristig Margenaufwärtspotenzial.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Separation & Timing: Analysten fragten nach Überraschungen im Spin; Kapur: Zeitplan eingehalten, Aero‑Spin komplex, eigenes Projektteam arbeitet daran.
- Margen‑Dynamik: Kritik an stagnierenden Aero‑Margen; Management nannte drei Übergangsfaktoren (CAES‑Onboarding ≈100bp, ungünstige OE‑(Original Equipment Manufacturer)‑Mix, zeitliche Verzögerung bei Preisweitergabe wegen Tarifen) und langfristige Hebel (R&D, Volumenhebel).
- Tarife & Pricing: Nachfrage zur Preisweitergabe; Antwort: größtenteils durchsetzbar, aber vertragliche Lags bedeuten kurzfristigen Druck — Strategie: Volumenschutz + selektive Weitergabe.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Das Event bestätigt einen klaren Fahrplan zur Aufspaltung und eine fokussierte, outcome‑orientierte Automation‑Strategie. Kurzfristig bleiben Margendruck und Timing‑Risiken (Tarife, OE‑Mix), mittelfristig bieten R&D, vernetzte Services und ein großes Backlog strukturelles Wachstum und Margenpotenzial — relevant für Anleger, die auf Strukturwandel und Software‑/Service‑Upside setzen.
Honeywell International — Jefferies Mining and Industrials Conference 2025
1. Question Answer
Good morning, everyone. My name is Sheila Kahyaoglu with the Jefferies Aerospace Defense and Airlines Equity Research team. Thank you so much for being here. We have Honeywell here. We have Mike Stepniak, who's CFO and Executive SVP. Thanks, Mike, for being here and always supporting our conference. First one is up, as always. So thank you, Sean Meakim, for allowing this to happen.
Mike, I think you have a few prepared remarks, and then we'll go into Q&A.
Sure. First of all, thank you for having us. Maybe before we get into Q&A, I'll just give you a quick business update and what's going on in Honeywell. Obviously, a lot going on. I'll start maybe just with the separations update. So Solstice will list on NASDAQ as SOLS, and that'll be before year-end, and we're hosting Investor Day on October 8 at NASDAQ as well. With aerospace separation, it's progressing well. We'll have more to say about it in the fourth quarter and as we go into next year. But I would like to say that the separations are progressing on time and per budget, if you will.
With the business itself, Vimal completed the assessment of the portfolio largely completed with our portfolio transformation with a couple of deals here announced Catalyst Technologies, which does very well to our ESS business. And then with a small tuck-in, in Lyon, which was essentially a technology buy that we thought was important for us. And as you know, we're looking through strategic options for our PSS business and Intelligrated.
And then from just organic standpoint, I'm really pleased with the team's performance in the first half vis-a-vis the beginning of the year and what we guided on organic sales, 2% to 5%, we're today standing at 4% to 5%. And from the EPS standpoint, $10.10 to $10.50, we're now at $10.45 to $10.65 So I would say the team has done a really nice job progressing for the year. I'm really pleased with the orders, how they're coming in, and I'm optimistic about the second half. And I think we'll have a good second half as well. So that's about it on the business.
I know Honeywell is the hardest working team out there. But with the spins, the deals you guys have a lot going on. So how do you think about resource allocation today and some of the major benefits post breakup?
Sure. So what I would say is, obviously, a lot going on, but the good thing about Honeywell team has a lot of capacity. And what we've done is given the experience with the prior spends, what we did was essentially took a group of people, about 200 people from the businesses and put them strictly on the separation -- on aero separation. Rest of the team is focused 100% on running the business, like nothing has happened.
And then from M&A, those M&As are aligned with specific segments. So each team reviews their capacity to absorb those M&As before we do them. And usually our process from M&A standpoint takes any given deal we might be looking at for 2, 3 years. So we're usually well prepared as far how to absorb them. So on whole, I feel like we're well resourced. We also brought in resources from outside. We obviously have advisers and help externally that helps us execute on these transactions.
You're spinning Solstice in Q4 and you have the Analyst Day October 8 and have announced potential strategic alternatives for productivity solutions and warehouse workflow solutions. How does this contribute to how you view the automation business going forward? And what does automation look like post the spin?
Sure. So I'm really excited about automation prospects and the outlook. I think the portfolio will be much cleaner, much easier to analyze and invest and unpack. So really happy about that. But ultimately, what we're striving to be is pure-play automation company and a global automation company. And that has a cohesive portfolio in terms of alignment in controls, process, software and really excited about that. The way we will be structured, we obviously have Building Automation, industrial automation and process technologies and automation. So three businesses, very, very clean, I think, way to run them.
Maybe if we could talk about the broader macro. It seems like a relatively slow summer, but we've seen some mixed reports since your Q2 and Honeywell's higher outlook for the year, but caution regarding lagging effect on business demand from tariff announcements, and I can't even keep up with some of them, to be quite honest. So where are areas you're seeing improvement, whether it's with orders? And where do you see some choppiness, given the potential program pushouts or tariff uncertainty?
So like I said, we're pleased with the first half performance from teams. Orders on the short cycle predominantly holding. We had a little bit of slow, I would say, July, which gave us a little bit of pause, but nothing concerning as far as our updated guide. If you look at the businesses and unpack them, the Building Automation has continued to perform on all cylinders. So it doesn't matter where you go globally. You look at, there's a lot of growth in Building Automation, both on the product side and both on the solutions side. So really pleased with that. Aerospace is sold out and continues to have very strong demand, and our backlog continues to grow and orders are coming in very strong.
I hear it's a good sector, by the way.
It's a great sector to be in these days, yes. And then from Industrial Automation and ESS, on the Industrial Automation, sensing is doing well. Thermal Solutions doing well. On the other hand, Intelligrated and PSS, the scanning business, they're saying a little bit of, I would say, slowdown as far as big project, and Europe continues to be so for us in PSS specifically.
And then for the ESS business, HBS business, we see a little bit of delays on the big deals, big orders, if you will. We don't see any cancellations, but where I can see the final investment decisions are getting pushed 3, 6 months, which obviously has impact for us in the second half from revenue. And on the short-cycle orders in ESS business on specifically around catalyst, we also see delays, but those delays are short term because these units will have to be refilled with a catalyst. And I think that 2026 is going to look much better as things tend to stabilize here on tariffs and our various issues that were going in terms of the macros.
Whether it's Intelligrated or the Catalyst business, any reason for those pushouts? Is it just tariff-related uncertainty that you're seeing that?
The feedback we're getting, it's predominantly just assessing the role post tariffs. And I think everybody is just absorbing at this stage the tariffs. Our customer is looking for, I would say, calmness in the macros to be able to invest. And all this swinging as far as tariffs and a few other things, it's causing them a pause as far as investing.
Maybe to touch upon UOP. It seems a lot of runway with the recent acquisition, along with broader sustainability trends and catalysts. The offset, as you called out, some large energy projects and Catalyst pushed out into '26, as you mentioned. How much visibility do you have into that demand? How does that uncertainty actually translate into orders and then actual revenues? And how do you think about next year shaping up?
So I would say the business is quite robust and will continue to grow. I think this year, we said low-single digits, flat to up. We'll continue to see that. And we're seeing a little bit of slowdown in, I would say, traditional UOP business. But on the other hand, our acquisitions are performing well, and they're being accretive to growth and continue to be accretive to grow. And as we lap the first year of integration, they are becoming organic growth for us. So I'm really, I would say, excited about what this business is going to do next year and 2027 as UOP starting to recover and those big orders starting to come in.
Is it possible you give us a quick update on how the acquisitions are being integrated and where you're seeing success?
Yes. So obviously, we're seeing success everywhere. All of our acquisitions vis-a-vis the TBA are performing better than one we anticipated on orders, on sales and synergies across the board. And whether you're looking at aerospace business or looking at ESS and are you looking in the access solutions in Building Automation, they're all performing well. So kudos to the team for executing those transactions well and integrating them well.
Maybe to talk again, going back to the Industrial Automation business, where is the outlook slightly better than you expected when you started the year and as you enter into the second half? And what verticals are tracking that?
So I would say sensing is doing better than what we thought. Thermal Solutions doing better as well. On the other hand, like I said, PSS and Intelligrate is going a little bit weaker than what we expected. Nothing that we know we'll not cover in our guide, but I think that's kind of where we're at right now.
Got it. So let's talk a little bit about Building Automation, I think another segment that's been exceeding your expectations. Can you talk about what the drivers have been? What's really driving that? Where are you seeing the most demand? And what you're seeing, whether it's from a vertical basis or regionally?
So for Building Automation, like I said, in terms of geographies, Europe stopped being a drag for us. It's a tailwind, and we started growing against. In Middle East, we have a lot of projects, and that's been growing the last couple of quarters double digits for us. And U.S. is holding up strong. And I would say, from a product portfolio, if you look at data warehouses, if you look at entertainment, hospitals, clean energy, all those verticals are doing quite well.
So I would say, for our business, there is growth across all verticals. And I also say that there's a lot of demand now for our Connected offering, given labor shortages, et cetera. So Connected is doing well, and we see a lot of growth in the aftermarket as well in our services portfolio.
Any new, I remember that Atlanta Analyst Day, any new products that you have within that -- sorry, I'm throwing a new one at you that are driving some of that growth since you mentioned, the Connected offering and the labor short and how that's coming through?
So a lot of our Connected -- within Connected, we have the most new offerings, and that's really obviously outcome-based services. And we're focusing essentially on our connection points and increasing them and providing value services there. As far as the big NPIs, we run anywhere from 200 to 300 different NPIs in any given year in the business. And a lot of that NPI dollars is spent essentially on improving current offerings, not necessarily new NPIs. Our customers too don't want us to introduce new things too fast because it causes a lot of disruptions in our end.
Actually, if I could ask about before I transition to aerospace and get really into it, how you think about across the entire portfolio R&D spend and how much you spend on maintenance R&D and obviously, aerospace will be very different versus new product R&D?
So I feel in pockets -- in Building Automation, I think we're well provisioned from a R&D standpoint. In Industrial Automation, there are pockets of R&D where we've been increasing investment. And we've been doing that now for about 18 months, and we're starting to see fruits of that labor. And that's why continue to see incremental growth on that business. So I feel vis-a-vis maybe peers and where we're at, we're quite well provisioned.
Maybe transitioning to aerospace. There's a lot to unpack and where at you're more comfortable anyway. So it's been leading in terms of orders sold out, you'll let me know how long you're sold out through. But can we talk about what you're seeing in the backlog in the order buffer aerospace? And will drill down on defense and space business a bit, but how do you think about the backlog coverage across the entire aerospace portfolio and the runway?
Yes. So backlog is the strongest backlog we've ever had and continues to grow. I would say we also have about $2.3 billion still of positive backlog. A lot of the backlog is on the -- positive backlog is on the mechanical side and in defense and space, but we're working our way through it. Aftermarket orders are holding for us as well. So we continue to see strength across the portfolio.
On the Mechanical 2.3 past due, how did it look like last quarter? And when it is Mechanical is at commercial aero or is that defense?
It's both commercial aero and defense. And we grew positive backlog, I think, last quarter by about $70 million. And we obviously had a hiccup there in terms of the growth that we were correcting that was driven by just our supply chain issues as far as unlocking some of those mechanical components that happened in June, but we'll work our way past through that.
Maybe if you could talk about the supply chain chokeholds there within mechanical, if it is commercial, what drags it? Is it still the bearings business? And how do you think about multiple sourcing items? Or is it something that you source?
I would tell you that we are fully recovered in electronics. So we're on PO essentially on electronics. On mechanical components side, we still have a little bit of, I would say, blockages in machine parts, forgings and castings. Since 2021, we invested about $1 billion to our supply chain vis-a-vis, obviously, incremental hiring, but also helping our suppliers as far as tooling, their hiring, et cetera. So we start seeing progress. Our supply chain is outputting now for, I think, 12 quarters in a row at 11-plus percent, but the recovery is not linear. It's a little bit choppy. So we'll continue to grow and ramp up. But quarter-to-quarter, sometimes we'll have a little bit of choppiness on the outlook.
Can we talk about maybe the supply chain recovering? Do you see that 11% across all your suppliers or is there regional chokeholds, too?
Not regional chokeholds. We predominantly produce in U.S. But I would say, yes, we might have suppliers where we're still single sourced or small mechanical suppliers that they essentially cannot keep up with a ramp of the issue with testing or tooling or people and essentially go backwards one quarter or another. So we continue to build the ramp. It's more predictable. I think you'll see good outcomes from us in the second half in aerospace, but we still have a little bit of work to do on the mechanical side.
And maybe if we could dig into the head count, $1 billion of additional investment in incremental hiring. How much of that is that Honeywell Aero itself versus your suppliers? And if you could talk about the help with the tooling you're providing in your supply chain.
I wouldn't specifically comment just on the allocation. It's really case by case. And obviously, we're trying to treat our suppliers strategically. And so it really depends on the suppliers, on their size and where they have issues and whether the consistent issues, new issues, et cetera.
Got it. Maybe going back to our backlog comment, you talked about aftermarket orders holding up well. What does that mean? How long is your aftermarket backlog? How do we think about somebody ordering an aftermarket part and you shipping it?
It's an interesting question. But essentially, you obviously -- your aftermarket backlog, you want it to be as small as possible because you want to output it in the quarter. So we usually like to keep -- when we're on PO, we have about 90 days of backlog in the aftermarket. As far as what's coming into the shops and how we transition, I would tell you that about 70% of our aftermarket is under a long-term service agreement. So we have a pretty good predictability when these aircraft will come in for service, et cetera.
Well, my comment on the backlog is that essentially, we see flight hours holding up, especially in business aviation, and we see continued demand both from an MSA standpoint in the service agreements as well as time and material.
So when you look at that aftermarket backlog, it's more of a parts comment rather than the 70% that's on long-term agreements, got it. And then on the commercial backlog, several years of commercial backlog, and how do you input the commercial aerospace orders into your backlog? Is it once you win?
It's once we win. So there is obviously a framework agreement. For example, if we take 737, we will put the whole skyline of 737 into backlog, we'll do it 1 year out.
Okay. And then last one, just to round it out on my backlog comments for defense and space. What are you seeing there, whether it's domestically or internationally? And how is that backlog trending?
It's trending extremely well, and it's been very strong for us. I think in second quarter, we grew sales again 13% and the sixth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth. About 25% of our defense and space business is international. So we'll see a lot of growth internationally. A lot of interest, specifically in Europe, so really encouraging there. And we have a good visibility to continue to grow defense and space at this elevated levels for the next couple of years.
Maybe let's stick to that, if you want. The 25% of the business that's international. Can you talk to us about what you do there?
Yes. So we do a lot of things, but predominantly, it's around precision navigation. We do a little bit of mechanical stuff as well. As you know, Leonardo is our big customer in Europe, for example. And we recently acquired Civitanavi, which is based in Europe. And purpose of us doing this acquisition is really trying to become local for local in the European market, and that's predominantly around electronics. We also have about 1,000 engineers in Europe, based in our engineering centers in Czech Republic, in Poland, which predominantly focus on development of new products for Europe and the Asian markets.
In terms of precision navigation, how do we think about that? Is that mainly missiles and munitions or should we think about that on fighters and aircraft?
It's both. So it's cockpit avionics as well as munitions.
Got it. And why has that been growing? I think, at the Analyst Day in Paris, it was 15% CAGR over the last decade and 15% projected. What's driving that growth? And how do you think about what country specifically outside of Poland and Czech?
So Poland and Czech is predominantly our engineering -- it's engineering, essentially engineering. But the growth is -- I think the cause for lower growth in Europe was the conflict in Ukraine. And if you look at European Union, they're obviously trying to rearm and up the defenses and a lot of growth is driven by that. Same in Asia and Australia. We have a lot of business in Australia, in Korea, in Japan. So I think just generally the world -- where the world is today, it drives a lot of need for deterrents, if you will.
Are you seeing incremental new countries come in as customers? We were with a company yesterday that mentioned order from Serbia that had never ordered from them before. So how do you think about some of the...
We get a lot of interest from various countries, but we're trying to focus on the materiality, if you will, which -- in the bigger defense budgets, which is, once again, Japan, it's Korea, it's Germany, it's Italy, U.K.
Maybe if you could talk about -- Sorry, one last one on international defense. Sorry, I'm digging into it, while I have you, I might as well. How do you sell internationally versus how you sell in the U.S.? Is there any change in fixed price programs? Is it through FMS? If you could talk about that?
So wherever we can, we try to apply commercial terms. We predominantly sell for U.S. government. But with the acquisition of Civitanavi, et cetera, that allows us to do direct sales as well.
And Civitanavi, which is hard to say, but how does that add to your portfolio? Do you think about it adding a footprint and a local sales force? Or do you think about adding content to additional programs?
So it's predominantly content and manufacturing in the region and a lot of, I would say, commercial synergies there.
Got it. And then domestically, what are you seeing? I've actually heard a lot of positive momentum over the past day on programs like Golden Dome and some of the other initiatives that Trump administration has. So how are you seeing the domestic environment shape up?
So the domestic orders are strong as well. We had several inquiries as far as increasing output, refreshing our commitment in terms of volume and even customers coming to us and asking about what it would take to us to increase significantly our output. So there is a lot of demand there.
And from Golden Dome, too, we're really excited about just possibility there. As far as depending on how the technology develops and which technologies win, we have a lot of great technologies in RF, in deterrent, especially in our EDS business. So quite excited about the opportunity there.
When we think about Golden Dome for Honeywell, I guess, where would the RF and deterrents play? So would you partner with somebody? Is that how you would bid on that?
Usually partner as a subcontractor.
Okay. And are you on any of the major missile programs that I might not be aware of? Or do we think about it more as like a software system that you would provide?
We are on missile programs as well.
Maybe if we could switch over to commercial and then we could come back to defense. Commercial OE, I think we've seen from a few folks in our coverage outside of Boeing, we saw some softness in commercial OE, but we do have production aligning to delivery rates going forward, at least for Boeing in the second half. So how do we think about the destocking for Honeywell specifically?
So it was, I would say, a first half issue for us. We will do better in the third quarter and vis-a-vis the first half, and we should be fully coupled in the fourth quarter as far as being in line with Boeing on production. So what happened with Boeing? We essentially overproduced and over-delivered last year as they were going through their complexities. And as they clear this year, we're aligning.
Would you say it was the same for mechanical parts, given the past due backlog or it was mostly on the electrical and avionics?
It's mostly on electric and avionics.
And on both the 37 and the 787? How do we think about that?
Yes.
Last one on the destocking. How do we think about the impact profitability, given you didn't have the same volume absorption, and I would assume your avionics business has higher profitability?
So it definitely shows up in the mix and you saw it in the rate. We'll continue to work our rate up, but mix will continue to be a drag for us for the foreseeable future as OE continues to lead the growth for Aero.
Maybe just taking a step back, can you remind folks of some of the good content you have on the commercial OE platforms for both Boeing and Airbus?
So I mean we have obviously very good content on APUs, very good content on controls and avionics, not any given platform bearing. If you look at ours, we're nose-to-tail provider. And if you look at our platforms, no platform is bigger for us than 6% of revenue.
Which one is that? And one of the questions that I get often from investors is, GE really worked post spin. So how do we think about Honeywell post spin, and it was a lot of your high market share on APUs and avionics, how do we think about that maintenance cycle. So I guess, how do you think about it internally?
So the way we model our business 10 years out. And if I model that business 10 years out, we're looking at what platforms are coming in and what platforms are coming out. I'm very confident about the Aero business becoming a $30 billion business. So with that happening, what Aero team needs to do is really think through how we structure our supply chain and how we enable that growth to the $30 billion business.
If you look at our portfolio, we're very diversified. So we're diversified around ATR, business aviation, defense and space. So none of the business is more than 40% of the overall portfolio. And I think that gives the aerospace business a lot of resiliency as far as not being just reliant on commercial. And I think that I'm really positive about the cycle. And then we've invested a lot of money over the last decade or so in eVTOL and electrification. And we'll see -- we see wins. And I think electrification is really a big play for us going forward.
Sticking to the commercial OE portfolio, how do we think about some of the growth drivers, whether it's commercial, Boeing or Airbus or the ATR and business aviation driving the growth to get to that $30 billion?
So obviously, it's based on the skyline and demand and the hours. We also have a big portfolio, 10% of our business is coming from RMUs, retrofits, mods and upgrades. And that's, I would say, a very good aftermarket business for us, which we've been nurturing for almost a decade now, continues to grow at double-digit and it's quicker to market and essentially focuses on mining our installed base and getting service and aftermarket revenue from the installed base by providing upgrades, better software solutions, productivity to our customers.
Can you talk about your aftermarket portfolio, maybe break it down for us and how you think about it, whether it's RMUs, mods, software. How you sell this as a service?
Like I said, any time we install the kit on the OE, we try to capture it into a long-term service agreement. That allows us, obviously, I would say, for better penetration, more predictable cash flow, if you will, in the revenue stream. And I think it's also a better option for the customer and it gives them predictive pricing and us as well.
And then the rest of the business is time and material. And then, like I said, about $1.5 billion of incremental growth in the aftermarket comes to us from RMUs, so what's driving for our aftermarket business to be about 50%, 60% of the overall business.
From what is it today?
It varies. Right now it's 50-50, I think.
Okay. And how do we think about the long-term agreements? What proportion of the business is on long-term contracts? And something we don't hear often from Honeywell is pricing complaints, pricing has generally been good. So how do you ensure that you get that inflation into the pricing accurately?
So like I said, about 70% of our aftermarket, we try to get into long-term service agreements. And within long-term service agreements, the pricing is much more predictable and based on the inflation indices. As far as OE pricing, we've been slow in getting the OE pricing just because we are under long-term contracts, and we'll get more price coming in, but that's really, I would say, for us, a 2027 event as some of these contracts are expiring, and we'll be renewing our contracts with OEMs.
Anything you would comment on business aviation, how you're seeing that business progress?
There's a lot of demand. We try to focus our business on super midsize, which we like, obviously, just giving our technology and the customer base there. And I would say on OE, demand is there and ours have been stable. Post-COVID, there was a peak in the flight hours, and we see them stabilizing. So I think low to mid-single-digit growth in hours foreseeing for the future.
Maybe just to close on aerospace, how do you think about profitability going forward? You have the CAS impacts with margins? Just how do you think about the margin trajectory and investments you need to make?
Sure. So CAS is going to lap here in the fourth quarter and will be less of a drag. The business is accretive from a growth standpoint to our Honeywell and obviously, aerospace and then it's dilutive from a margin standpoint. So the team will continue to improve the margins, but it will be largely by year-end completed with the integration.
And then from a margin standpoint, like I said, for us, it's really about, one, on the mix and second is about getting more productive out of supply chain. So as we stabilize our supply chain, you will see our margin rates growing again to that 27% and beyond that. I am confident the team will get to that beyond 27%.
I have no doubt that Honeywell hits margin targets. How do we think about overall margins across the remaining segments as we think about the tariff impacts, productivity?
Sure. So I would tell you from a tariff impact, we should be, by year-end, largely caught up on pricing across the automation portfolio. And that's been progressing quite well. From aerospace standpoint, there's still a little time. Like I said, I think that is going to recover more in 2027. From a productivity standpoint, we still see a lot of productivity in Honeywell, especially as we separate the businesses. We discover a lot of opportunity for us to capture on productivity. So I'm actually quite excited about what we'll be doing on the margin side from an automation, aero standpoint.
I want to ask 2 more questions and get off the hook. So maybe how do we think about -- you said no more deals, but that doesn't mean people can't invest in your business. So I think NVIDIA's venture capital arm is investing in Quantinuum, valuing the company's business at $10 billion. So how do you think about that? Can you elaborate on how that came about?
So there should be an announcement coming out in the press, I think, today on us on our race, and I'll let everybody read that, and we can talk about it as we go through for the day. But we obviously partner with the best companies out there. We have a really great technology in Quantinuum, which we are commercializing. And I think it just tells you the...
It just hit, so you could talk about it now.
Great. So we just completed the race. I think it's $600 million and NVIDIA and few others are part of that race. And we obviously are commercializing our product. We have a customer event here in the fall as well. And I'm excited about commercializing this business. And ultimately, I think this race gets us through IPO because our intent is to IPO this business.
Great. Well, thanks Mike so much, and thanks, everybody for joining.
Thank you very much.
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Honeywell International — Jefferies Mining and Industrials Conference 2025
Honeywell International — Jefferies Mining and Industrials Conference 2025
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Spin & Datum: Solstice soll noch vor Jahresende an der NASDAQ unter SOLS gelistet werden; Investor Day am 8. Oktober.
- Fokus: Honeywell positioniert sich als reines, globales Automationsunternehmen (Building, Industrial, Process Automation).
- Operative Lage: Management berichtet über solide Orders, erhöhtes Jahres-EPS-Range und organisches Umsatzwachstum.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Portfolio: Portfolio-Transformation läuft; jüngste Zukäufe (Catalyst Technologies, Lyon) stärken ESS/Automation.
- Trennung: Aero-Spin läuft termingerecht und im Budget; rund 200 Mitarbeitende für Separation abgestellt, externe Berater eingesetzt.
- M&A & Optionen: Strategische Optionen für Productivity Solutions (PSS) und Intelligrated werden geprüft.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Guidance: Organisches Umsatzwachstum jetzt bei 4–5% (vs. 2–5% vorher); EPS-Range auf $10,45–$10,65 angehoben (vorher $10,10–$10,50).
- Quantinuum: Finanzierungsrunde (~$600M) mit NVIDIA-Teilnahme; Ziel ist ein späterer Börsengang (IPO, Initial Public Offering).
- Timelines: Mehr Details zur Aero-Separation in Q4 und im kommenden Jahr angekündigt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Ressourcen: Wie verteilt Honeywell Personal auf Spins vs. laufendes Geschäft? Antwort: separate 200-köpfige Einheit für Aero; Rest operativ voll aktiv.
- Tarife & Nachfrage: Tariff-Unsicherheit führt zu 3–6‑monatigen Projektverschiebungen, besonders bei großen ESS- und Catalyst-Aufträgen.
- Aerospace-Engpässe: Backlog sehr stark, aber Restprobleme bei mechanischen Teilen (Forgings, Castings) verursachen zeitweise Volatilität; Elektronik sei größtenteils stabil.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Klarer strategischer Kurs mit Value-Realisation durch Spins und bereinigtem Automationsfokus; verbesserte Guidance stützt kurzfristig die Aktie, aber Tarif‑/Projektverzögerungen und mechanische Supply‑Chain‑Risiken können die kurzfristige Umsatzentwicklung dämpfen. Langfristig positiv, optionaler Upside durch Quantinuum‑IPO.
Honeywell International — Q2 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's call is being recorded.
I would now like to hand the call over to Sean Meakim, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. On the call with me today are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Vimal Kapur, and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak.
This webcast and the presentation materials, including non-GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website. From time to time, we post new information that may be of interest or material to our investors on this website. Our discussion today includes forward-looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to risks and uncertainties including the ones described in our SEC filings.
This morning, we will review our financial results for the second quarter, share our guidance for the third quarter and provide an update on full year 2025. As always, we'll leave time for your questions at the end.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Chairman and CEO, Vimal Kapur.
Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. Honeywell again delivered solid results in the second quarter meeting or exceeding all our financial commitments in a time of significant global economic change, our organic sales and orders growth both accelerated during this quarter as we are seeing the benefit of our consistent spending and execution on new product development across our businesses. Given the strong first half performance, we are raising sales and earnings guidance for the full year while incorporating into our outlook all currently known tariffs and the uncertain business conditions going forward.
Our proactive multipronged mitigation efforts, coordinating closely with suppliers and customers on productivity and pricing initiatives have been working as planned. And because of our systemic approach, we are in a position to deliver strong sales profit and cash flow growth in 2025. As our business [ users ] have been solely focused on meeting and exceeding our financial commitment, management and the Board have been fulfilling our promise to transform our portfolio ahead of our upcoming separation to best position each of the future independent company's success.
Throughout the comprehensive portfolio review, I initiated shortly after becoming CEO, we have diligently analyzed how to further simplify and optimize Honeywell. Earlier this month, we entered the final stage of this process, announcing our intention to pursue strategic alternatives for our productivity solutions and services, and Warehouse and Workflow Solutions businesses. The results of this pursuit, whatever they may be, will clarify the stand-alone automation company's go-forward strategy and value proposition with many changes in fly our dedicated separation management office have kept us right on track to execute our spin-off transaction, both on time and without commercial disruption.
Let's now turn to Slide 3 for a further update on our formation of 3 industry-leading public companies. We continue to make great progress along with the path to separate into 3 independent companies which we believe will maximize long-term value for all Honeywell stakeholders as independent entities with clear alignment and purpose, increased organization agility and customized capital allocation priorities each will be better positioned to accelerate future growth opportunities. Given the pace of our progress, we cannot narrow the timing for the spin-off of this advanced materials to Honeywell shareholders to the fourth quarter of this year [indiscernible] share will trade under the ticker SOLS on the NASDAQ Stock Exchange.
A few weeks prior to the spin, the SOLS' leadership team will host an Investor Day in New York, they will lay out in detail the powerful investment case for this innovative market leader in secularly growing our hospital market that will carry on Honeywell's legacy of operational excellence. We hope you will join CEO, David Sewell and his team at this event. We're also making great progress on aerospace spin, which is planned for the second half of next year. Last month, Aerospace President, Jim Career and I presented an investor reception ahead of Paris Air Show, Jim highlighted Aero's industry-leading position as a mission-critical supplier of systems across aerospace verticals and platforms.
In addition, he provided insights into drivers for our strong growth profile, underpinned by a broad aerospace and defense up cycle which we enhanced with a powerful decouple sales initiative, ongoing supply chain transformation effort and robust research and development investments over time. We look forward to providing you with more details on stand-alone Honeywell Aerospace in coming quarters. And yet we are not waiting for the separation to reshape our portfolio for future growth. We continue to selectively deploy capital towards acquisitions, announcing 2 new deals in the past couple of months, we are also looking to recycle capital, as I discussed earlier, by pursuing alternative for businesses that do not fit our future. In combination of these actions, will drive value creation as we await becoming separately publicly traded vehicles.
If you turn to Slide 4, I will discuss our recent portfolio announcement in more detail. In June, we agreed to GBP 1.8 billion bolt-on purchase of Johnson's Mathes Catalyst Technology business. We have long identified our UOP process technology business as a natural owner of this highly complementary business because it gives us additional capabilities in sustainable methanol sustainable aviation fuel, hydrogen and ammonia to better serve our extensive customer base. It also brings attractive sales from catalysts, which fit very well with our existing offerings. The transaction is expected to close in the first half of 2026 and will enhance our growth and margin profile over time, while providing a strong financial return. In early July, we also announced a technology tuck-in acquisition of [ Line Tamer ] that enhances our building automation capability in high-growth energy storage and data center end markets.
While such smaller deals do not often get much investor attention, in aggregate, they can accelerate our strategic road map and boost growth with a lower risk profile. We recently announced our intent to evaluate strategic automative for our PSS and warehouse automation businesses. Just as we want to acquire businesses such as Catalyst Technologies and Line Tamer where we believe we are a natural owner, we must also acknowledge when the time comes, they be better owner of parts of our portfolio. We're looking to create a pure-play automation company with a consistent business model and focus in our end markets in which we have durable competitive advantages, both PSS and Integrated have strong customer bases, long history of innovation and best-in-class operation and we will evaluate options for them from a position of strength to avoid interfering with a review process that will hold further updates until it's completed.
I will now turn it over to Mike to provide more details on our excellent second quarter results.
Thank you, Bimal, and good morning, everyone. Let's begin on Slide 5. In the second quarter, we built upon a strong start to the year as we again exceeded our guidance for organic sales growth and adjusted earnings per share. Our results demonstrate the resilience of our accelerated operating system to adapt to changes in the environment quickly and deliver on our financial commitments. At the same time, we remain committed not to compromise on our investment in growth initiatives as we are beginning to see evidence of our progress.
Second quarter sales grew 5% organically with 3 out of our 4 segments above this level. defense and space and UOP let grow up with double-digit performances. Segment profit expanded 8% from the prior year, in line with sales and segment margin finished nearly flat and within our guidance range. Margin expansion in building automation and industrial automation and lower corporate costs were slightly more than offset by margin pressure in Aerospace Technologies and Energy & Sustainability solutions, an increase in research and development expense, up 60 basis points as a percentage of sales from the previous year to 4.6% pushed down current period margin at the segment level but will enhance future period growth.
Earnings per share in the second quarter was $2.45 per share, up 4% from the prior year, while adjusted earnings per share was $2.75 per share, up 10% year-over-year. organic and inorganic segment profit growth as well as the lower tax rate more than offset headwinds from higher interest expense and lower pension income. You can find in bridge for adjusted earnings per share from 2Q '24 to 2Q '25 in the appendix of this presentation. Orders were $10.5 billion in the quarter, up 6% year-over-year excluding the effect of acquisitions and divestitures, led by strong double-digit increase in aerospace orders. Backlog grew 10% organically from the prior year to a new record of $36.6 billion.
Second quarter free cash flow was $1 billion, down roughly $100 million from the previous year as tariff-related cost inflation pushed up inventory levels and capital project spending expanded as planned. We continue to dynamically allocate our excess cash flow and balance sheet capacity based upon the best opportunities the market presents to us. During the second quarter, our capital deployment was well balanced with $2.2 billion used to complete the accretive acquisition of Sundyne and over $2.4 billion returned to shareholders, roughly $1.7 billion of share repurchases and $700 million of dividends. We also allocated $300 million for capital projects. Now let's turn to Slide 6 to discuss our second quarter performance by segment.
I will give a high-level view of results and with additional commentary provided on the right-hand side of the slide. In the second quarter, Aerospace Technologies grew 6% organically, highlighted by another strong quarter of our Defense & Space and commercial after-market businesses. Segment margin contracted 170 basis points to 25.5% as 11% output growth, commercial excellence and productivity actions were more than offset by higher cost inflation and the impact of case acquisition. In Industrial Automation, sales were above our guidance range, coming in flat on an organic basis. Segment margin expanded 20 basis points to 19.2%, driven by productivity actions and commercial excellence, which more than compensated for cost pressures.
In May, we completed the sale of the PPE business, which will be accretive to organic growth and margins in the second half of the year. Building Automation delivered another quarter that surpassed our expectations, with sales increasing 8% organically from the previous year. Second quarter margin expanded 90 basis points year-over-year, led by volume leverage and full quarter benefit from Access Solutions. Energy & Sustainability Solutions sales grew 6% organically in the second quarter, exceeding our expectations driven by double-digit growth in UOP. Segment margin contracted 110 basis points to 24.1% as volume leverage and benefit from the margin accretive LNG acquisitions were more than offset by impact from a customer settlement as well as cost inflation. Now I move to Slide 7 to discuss our third quarter and full year guidance.
Our first half outperformance has given us confidence to increase our outlook for the year, even as we remain cautious regarding the lagging effect on business demand from tariff announced in recent months. Despite this, our framework for the year remains largely unchanged. We are factoring in non tariffs as they are written, assuming any moratoria means a later revision to higher rates, net of all of our mitigation options. Keeping in close communication with our customers and suppliers, we remain committed to fully offsetting the effect of these tariffs with a combination of productivity, pricing and alternative sourcing as we balance protecting both margins and demand.
We are raising the lower end of our full year organic sales growth guidance range by 200 basis points. Factoring in our first half performance and recent short-cycle order trends, we now project growth of 4% to 5% for the year or 3% to 4% when excluding the prior year impact from the Bombardier agreement. Our year-to-date results have exceeded previous expectations while maintaining a pragmatic approach to the back half. We have increasingly seen large energy projects in Catalyst spend, which can carry attractive incremental margins in our Europe and Process Solutions business pushed out into 2026 because of macroonomic and legislative uncertainty.
Full year sales are now projected to $40.8 billion to $41.3 billion driven primarily higher by better organic growth, tailwinds from foreign currency translation and the additional revenue from the Sunday acquisition in June. We expect year-over-year organic sales improvement to be similar in both the third and fourth quarter when excluding the impact of the Bombardier agreement in the fourth quarter of last year. We anticipate third quarter organic sales growth of 2% to 4% which equates to $10 billion to $10.3 billion. For the full year, we now expect our overall segment margin to be up 40 to 60 basis points or be down 30 to 10 basis points [ ex Bombardier ], reduced margin expectations from the prior guidance stem from the high decrementals of delayed energy project work and the lagged effect of pricing relative to tariff-related cost pressures in our aerospace business.
In the third quarter, segment margin is anticipated to be in the range of 22.7% to 23.1%, down 90 basis points to down 50 basis points from the prior year with BA margins expanding margin roughly flat, higher margin contracting modestly and aero margins similar to its second quarter level. We now expect full year earnings per share of $10.45 to $10.65, up 6% to 8% or up 1% to 3%, excluding the 2024 impact of the Bombardier agreement. Earnings per share in the third quarter is anticipated to be $2.50 to $2.60, down to up 3% to 1% from the prior year. I will provide further details on changes to our full year EPS guidance later in the presentation.
We continue to expect free cash flow for the year between $5.4 billion to $5.8 billion, down 2% to up 5% ex Bombardier, which remains approximately in line with adjusted earnings per share growth. we give additional information on changes in free cash flow from the prior year in the appendix. Having deployed $7.8 billion in the first half of the year for share repurchases, acquisitions, dividends and couple of projects, we remain opportunistic in allocating additional capital beyond that already committed for the rest of the year.
To summarize, our strong execution in the first half has raised the bar for the year even as we prioritized setting further expectations in a highly dynamic environment. focusing on what we can control, our company remains poised for strong performance ahead of our pending separations. I'll now turn to Slide 8 to give a high-level overview of our outlook by segment with further details by business unit provided in the commentary portion of the slide.
In Aerospace Technologies, we continue to anticipate full year sales growth in the high single-digit range or mid-single digit to high single digit when excluding the impact of the 2024 Bombadier agreement. Supported by supply chain analog and elevated global demand amid geopolitical complex, our Defense and Space business should lead segment growth for the year. Commercial aftermarket growth remains consistent with Air transplant currently stronger than business aviation. We still expect commercial OE sales to recover and grow in the back half of the year as customers work down existing inventories, allowing our sales to better align OE build rates.
For the third quarter, organic sales are expected to be up mid-single digits to high single digits led by defense and space with continued solid growth in commercial aftermarket and commercial, we no longer address. Margins for the third quarter should be consistent with the prior quarter. For the full year, margins are expected to approach 26% as volume leverage is more than offset by the impact of acquisitions and the tariff-driven cost inflation temporarily outpaces pricing. In Industrial Automation, we are increasing our 2025 sales outlook to down low single digits to down mid-single digits given second quarter top line results and short-cycle orders holding up better to date than initially feared in April, though still down year-over-year.
Order declines are not contained to IEA short-cycle businesses given long-cycle pressures from delayed energy customer CapEx decisions. We expect full year IA margin to be roughly flat versus 2024. And as incremental tariff-related cost inflation and volume deleverage are offset by commercial excellence, improved productivity and second half accretion from the PPE sell. For the third quarter, we also anticipate a similar sales performance as full year as growth in sensing, thermal solutions and warehouse and workflow solutions is offset by muted demand in and project timing delays in core process solutions. Margins are expected to contract modestly from the previous year, but increased sequentially.
In building automation, we are raising our 2025 sales outlook for the second consecutive quarter as 2Q sales exceeded expectations and second half prospects have improved from our view in April given solid order trends. As a result, we now expect mid-single-digit to high single-digit organic sales growth. Products & Solutions should grow at similar rates through the second half driven by software-led new product introductions, momentum in the U.S. and high-growth regions and customer wins in focused verticals.
For the third quarter, we anticipate sales to be up mid-single digits as comps from the prior year become modestly more difficult in the back half. We expect building automation to expand margins meaningfully for the third quarter and for the year, supported by volume leverage and productivity actions. In Energy & Sustainability Solutions, we're slightly reducing our organic sales growth outlook to reflect a more cautious capital spending posture from EPs energy customers. We now expect full year sales to be flat to up slightly. Advanced materials should be growth in the second half on improving demand tailwinds and the uplift from easing priority comps in fluorine products.
We anticipate full year ESS margin to remain roughly flat as commercial excellence and uplift from the LNG acquisition are offset by less favorable mix from reduced high-margin project and [indiscernible] and cost inflation. In the third quarter, we expect ESS sales to decline low single digits with growth in Advanced Materials, offset by lower ERP projects and a headwind from the timing of catalyst shipments shifting forward into the second quarter. Just as for the full year, margin is anticipated to be around flat to 2024. Now let's move to Slide 9 to walk through our 2025 EPS bridge.
With the organic segment growth contributing an additional $0.13 per share for the full year, in line with our view in the prior quarter. while second quarter results finished above our guided range. The performance included a couple of cents of benefit above the line from the Sunday acquisition and a few extra weeks of owning PPE. It also included some UP catalyst shipments that were expected to occur later in the year. As a result, we are largely maintaining our outlook for the second half of the year with some pluses and minuses under the surface. Organic sales should be better, both in building automation and industrial automation, which we do not anticipate being down as much as contemplated in April.
However, segment margin will be pressured some in IA because of negative mix from reduced demand for energy projects and in aerospace because of pricing increases lagging behind tariff-related cost inflation. Acquisitions are now expected to add roughly $0.40 per share to 2025 EPS with some time being added into the mix. The impact of FX, quarterly tax rates and below-the-line items are fairly straightforward in the bridge. As the company focuses its transformational efforts on completing 2 spin-off transactions, repositioning projects have slowed. However, we anticipate more spending in the second half of the year and a return to a normalized level post separation. Additional details on these items are available in the appendix of this presentation.
I'll now hand the call back over to Vimal to conclude our prepared remarks.
Thank you, Mike. Honeywell performed admiringly in the first half of 2025 with back-to-back quarters that delivered earnings above the high end of our target ranges. Our investment in innovation is gaining traction, driving improved sales growth and yet another record quarter for our backlog. On the back of this operational momentum, we are raising our organic sales growth and adjusted earnings per share guide for the year while being mindful that we may not yet have felt the full impact of escalation of global tariff rates in recent months.
Business demand has remained resilient in more sectors and geographic region thus far but we are well prepared for potential changes ahead in the macro regulatory and geopolitical environment utilizing a playbook that has served us well over many cycles. As our businesses focus on delivering our financial targets, we have also made substantial progress in transforming our portfolio to maximize their value. Through separation, acquisition and divestitures we are simplifying Honeywell for investors, customers and our future shapers. All our transactions are proceeding according to plan. Even as the first chapter of my tenure as CEO comes closer to an end, with the conclusion of the comprehensive portfolio review, our dynamic approach to capital allocation and portfolio optimization remains ever green. We are confident that the combination of our accelerating growth and high return capital deployment will compound the value of Honeywell going forward.
With that, Sean, let's take questions.
Vimal and Mike are now available to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions] Operator, please open the line for Q&A.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays Bank.
2. Question Answer
Just maybe wanted to start off with aerospace to try and understand kind of the moving parts there. I suppose it sounded in Paris as if there was a bit more confidence around sort of supply chain issues and getting those resolved, and that might help the commercial top line, but it seems something sort of moved the other way. So just trying to understand is that BGA or large commercial, what's the pace at which commercial OE sales improve. And on the margin front, should we think about this sort of 25% to 26% margin being the new sort of baseline for the next 12 or 18 months?
So I would say, first, orders in aerospace, extremely strong, continue to be strong on all fronts, defense and space, commercial OE, et cetera. What we see in our commercial OE in the second quarter, it's really a transitory item. I would say we experienced some destocking with one of our OEMs, and we expect those our shipments to normalize to the OE build rates in the second half. So I feel very confident that you'll see better OE profile from us in the second half. But like I said, we feel quite bullish on aero performance for the year.
From a margin standpoint, as we talked earlier, we were integrating case and that's about 100 bps drag for us year-over-year. That's going to start to normalize in the next year. Case by the way, is growing revenue this year at high double digits. So it's ahead of our pro forma, really encouraged by that. And we also year-over-year are putting about $200 million of incremental R&D into the aerospace business. to help support our NPI growth and new revenue next year. So I think in the second half, margin profile for Aero will be better than what you've seen this quarter. And like I said, I'm quite confident about the high single-digit growth on revenue for the rest of the year.
The only thing Julian I'll add is everything what Mike said is all transitionary issue items. If you see the margin-related discussions we have, the OE mix as a transition because of the destocking. R&D is -- we evaluate it to a level we can perform for the future. So that's going to become new normal. And then case acquisition is only going to become a tailwind in the future. So these are not your other question, is that a new baseline? Answer is no, because these issues are transitionary, and we have very high confidence on the aero margin projections we have laid out.
Got it. And just following up on that, Vimal. So the sort of R&D hike, you think by the end of this year, kind of R&D to sales in Aero shouldn't be a headwind next year and then case margins start to improve over the next year or so.
Both statement are true and then the OED stocking issue also goes away because the rates will convert the normal baseline. That's why I mentioned these are all transitionary issues. By the way, on the R&D spend, the R&D spend rise is not only in aerospace. It's across all 4 segments of Honeywell. We feel continued confidence on our ability to accelerate organic growth through new products. We see part of that happening in building automation, pockets of industrial automation, aerospace, we talked about wins. But overall, we have a meaningful acceleration of R&D spend for the right projects. and this is going to set up a new baseline for Honeywell for the future. So this is again a transitionary for the overall company. We don't expect that to repeat in the year ahead at the same level.
Our next question is from Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
Can we just talk a little bit about UOP. And my question is very strong growth this quarter, but you're seemingly talking it down for the second half of the year. Can we just understand what verticals drove the upside? And what verticals are driving the downside if we could disaggregate it.
So I'll say, Andrew, for the quarter 2, we had 2 favorable items. We had a big licensing agreement with a customer, which gave us strong growth. And also catalyst sales were much stronger in Q2. So some of the catalysts got pulled through from second half to first half. So that's more of a cycle of this long-cycle business. To the second part of your question, the impact we see is energy project spend is moving more to the right. Part of it is, I would say, economic uncertainty with [indiscernible] settled in and some of the regulatory items which got clarified with OB3 regulations. So we do believe they will settle. But clearly, we saw pressure on that for rest of the year. which we have reflected in our guide for ESS business and to a certain degree, also in IF process automation.
And I would just add that just looking at the OB3 and the IRA, that's mostly preserved for us. So it's not really a headwind for us into next year.
I got you. And then on Industrial Automation, just to follow up. So HPS, similar dynamics. So is it fair to say that when you say weakened demand and price cost deleverage in the second half in the slide that it mostly relates to HPS, and that's what's driving sort of slightly lower margin outlook there? Is that the key driver?
Yes. Primarily, I would say in case of HPS, the same energy projects, the projects part of the business will see the similar pressure. The services side remains strong. Mike, anything you want to add on the...
I would just say, Vimal, I continue to be prudent about the second half. A lot of moving parts. I feel confident we'll be able to deliver on the guide that we put it from, but just continue to be prudent on the second half, especially around the short cycle orders.
But you don't have 1 specific industry vertical region to call out other than this big tariff uncertainty.
That's correct.
No, absolutely right. I mean, in fact, we see a much more balanced growth across the board. Now, of course, U.S. remains a leading growth, no doubt about it. But the headwinds we saw a couple of quarters last year, in particular on Europe and China have subsidies now. So the growth is more normalized across the globe with the U.S. being the leading growth.
Our next question is from Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
I just want to pick up on maybe the first couple of questions. Just on the energy project. timing, I guess. Is that mainly on the clean energy project? Or is it just large process projects in general? And then maybe just final point on Aero margins. It seems like tariff inflation should be better news today than it was back in April. So I'm just curious what additional inflationary pressures you see in Aero.
N-level energy project, just to kind of dig into a little detail you're asking for. I'll provide into a couple of buckets. LNG remain very strong. The business we acquired is performing extremely well, and we remain very bullish on LNG that's going to benefit ESS, that's going to benefit process auto mission because our two-in-a-box strategy. Sustainable fuels projects are the ones which are most impacted moving to the right. I think they were primarily policy around IRA, how will they fold out at OB3. Now things have got cleared up in last 10 days. So we do believe that should bring up the positive momentum.
On the traditional refining petrochemical side, I would say that we saw higher catalyst spend in Q2. In fact, a few got accelerated, which led to strong performance for Q2. But we do see some weakening demand there. I think customers are more cautious on making large catalyst spend in certain segments. But overall, I think the performance, we had a chance to attend OPEC meeting a couple of days back, and the outlook for Energy segment remains extremely bullish across the [ coal ] gas refining, biomass base products coming down in the future. So our outlook remains extremely bullish. I think we're just going through a typical cycle in the energy right now.
And then on the Aero question, what I would tell you is that if you look at tariffs, tariffs when we incur tariffs, we pay them in 10 days. it's easy to pass tariffs as far as timing on short-cycle businesses when it comes to aerospace and our OE contracts these matters take a longer time because you have to open the contract and these contracts usually are set for 10 years and prescribe Cerner frameworks. So the team is working through it, and it will take them a little bit longer to get that price aligned with the cost as we obviously keep in mind how we impact our customers.
And Mike, could you maybe just touch on the changes to the R&D tax expensing for tax purposes. You've got about $1 billion of deferred tax assets. new balance sheet. So just how does that unwind over the next couple of years?
Yes. So I would say it's obviously net positive for us. And we'll -- right now, we're just evaluating it with our tax team thinking through given we have all those things going on and the separation on how to unwind in the best way, -- it's -- I would say, it's a tailwind for us for '26 and '27. But we'll have more to say about it as we go into next year. But you are correct, this is a tailwind for us.
Our next question comes from Steve Tusa with JPMorgan.
Just trying to like get to the margin guide for the year. You guys given some good detail. I guess for -- I think, to get into the range, is building automation like close to [ 28 ] this year, is that roughly the right ballpark?
I would say, it really depends how you look at it and where you look at it. On the product side, obviously, the incrementals are extremely high for us right now, projects is a bit lower. But I would say incrementals are quite high.
Yes, Steve, this is Sean. I obviously thinking about the full year, that's probably a little bit aggressive in terms of is that business capable of delivering a number like that, it has the capability of doing so.
It's fair to say, Steve, that will be the highest margin business in our portfolio in '25. So that will be a fair statement.
Okay. And then just 1 follow-up just on the hedge. I guess the contingency you guys had put into place last quarter. What's the -- what's kind of the status of the contingency, obviously, a better visibility now, but just curious as to where that went.
Yes. So I would say we learned a lot over last 90 days, when we were talking last time we're evaluating tariffs live, I think if you look at the guide that we just gave, I feel a high level of confidence we can deliver that. Third quarter, obviously, is a very important quarter for us. Like we said earlier that some of the longer-cycle project milestones have moved out on us. And then we had some of the demand on capitalist softer to be softer. But on the other hand, building automation and IA short-cycle orders are better. So I think net-net, we're kind of in the very similar spot that we were last quarter.
Our next question comes from Scott Davis with Melius Research.
Can we talk a little bit about quantinium? I mean it looks like it's still bleeding a little bit of cash for you guys. But what are the hurdles? Specifically, what are you guys looking for to be able to get that to an IPO-ready situation?
Scott, I would say the -- in principle, we are committed to deconsolidate. So that plan is not changing. And then actually, as we speak, we are doing the fundraise so that we could capitalize the company between now and the IPO time. To your specific question, I think we are looking at more commercial evidence which can prove the revenue stream for it. We had a big win in Qatar when President was visiting there. There was a big announcement that Qatar is going to invest for Quantum infrastructure. So wins like that gives the investor confidence on the for revenue stream. And the way I see time line today is end of 2017 is, I would say, the outline at the most. Can we pull it forward by a couple of months or quarter, yes, that possibility always remains. So we're working with that kind of time line. And we do have a good visibility on commercial progress between now and then to execute that. We also expect Scott to unveil the plans of Quantinuum in the Q4 time frame. So we'll keep all our shareowners informed on some of the progress we are making, and we'll share that on a more broader basis.
Okay. That's helpful. Bill. And just to switch to the R&D, it's -- and we don't have to make a big deal out of this. But the timing, I don't think I've ever seen a company prior to a breakup increased R&D spend. So I'm just kind of curious, is that -- is that a message coming from the businesses that they felt like they were behind? Or is there just -- it just happened to be a little bit of just -- is what it is. I'll just stop there. I don't want to make...
This is part of the message I've been saying since last year that Honeywell organic growth with the strength of improving our fundamentals, so the 2 fundamentals we were focused on improving our processes, are we investing in the right spot? Do we have the right talent the basics. And then we made decision sometime in last year to accelerate R&D where we think we have opportunity to grow. And you can imagine hiring people in the domains we play like aerospace, energy is a very, very long cycle. So I can't make a decision in June and people show up in July. This is much, much longer than that. So principally, across the board, we're investing R&D escalation acceleration. It's higher than aero compared to others, but we are also growing R&D spend across the board. And my strong conviction is that it's really preparing Honeywell for the future for the better organic growth because we are putting bets in the right spots. Some evidences are already seen in some segment with our acceleration of our organic growth. but more to come as we go along. So it's really not linked to Spain, I would say. I treat those 2 as 2 separate event, but we are just getting better prepared as an organic growth driver company compared to what it was historically.
Scott, I say that is a good thing for us, given where we want to go from a top line growth standpoint, migration to higher growth verticals, is this investment is good for us and has a high ROI for us in 2026.
And it's actually put I mean in the should have mentioned to you, we are always at the median or R&D spend. So I think this is going to push us more towards upper quartile now as the year closes. And I'm sure as you observe the number will start transiting ourselves on the money we invest for growth.
Our next question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies Group.
If I could ask 2 aerospace questions, please. The first one on aftermarket. The 7% growth decelerating from 15% in Q1 and lagging some of the early reports from peers. How do we think about what weighed on that growth? Was it air transport, business aviation? And how are you thinking about the full year there?
I would say, Sheila, that -- the aftermarket is normalizing for us. And I think you should -- the range they receive in the second quarter, that's kind of the range we we're expecting in the second half. We see -- as we're catching up with demand, et cetera, we see this as a kind of more normal go-forward rate for us. As you see, the hours are fairly stable, both on ATR and business. And I think that's kind of a new normal for us going forward.
Okay. And then if I could maybe hone in on the aerospace OE decline once again, if that's possible. Why the destocking now and it seems like deliveries are actually increasing. Was it related to 1 specific platform? Or is it inventory across multiple platforms?
It's predominantly as the impact from North America platforms on reside. And if you think about last year, et cetera, we were shipping a lot into our OEs inventories. And now they're depleting these inventories, they have better visibility in terms of how much safety stock they need. So we're working ourselves for this blip -- and I think that's going -- at least based on everything I know today, it's going to normalize some in the third quarter, and then we should be back to normal in the fourth quarter.
And then, Sheila, I would just add the nuance is not everything is the same inside of OE. And so electromechanicals where we've had the supply chain challenges and continue to work towards making sequential improvement, whereas electronic solutions have been caught up for quite a while. And so you can see a little bit of a difference in terms of what those needs look like for customers between those 2 businesses.
Our next question comes from Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.
I wanted to ask about portfolio actions. Vimal, you guys have remained quite busy here in the first [ half of ] '25 after you announced the separation in Q4 of last year. So should we assume that everything of has been completed or announced at this point? And then just on some of the strategic reviews, I think I understand why PFS doesn't fit the aftermarket business. But warehouse is both automation and aftermarket driven. So it does fit the characteristics that Honeywell is looking for. Can you just talk about that 1 doesn't fit in the future portfolio?
Yes. Thanks, Chris. I'm going to say the first part of your question, yes, we are complete on the portfolio review what I started 2 years back. So from this point onward, we do not expect any major portfolio exits, if I can use the word normal way could we do things? I mean we are a large company, so there could be something is always happening. But fundamental, we have completed the process. The decision on Intelligrated and PSS was more of a sectorial decision. To look at the end markets we want to participate.
And one of the automation is a very large market. It's a $500 billion TAM. So we have a very large opportunity in those swim lanes of the 3 verticals we have now built for ourselves, industrial process and buildings. So within that, now, we are making choices. And we obviously want to bias towards verticals which are higher growth so that we could deliver high growth to our shareowners. And our belief playing in this segment of logistics and warehouse and transport, these are very good segments. But they also have demonstrated certain rates of growth and lumpiness, which we believe are less or fit to our portfolio in the future. So it's a choices to be made. We are making some additions, some substraction. The warehouse automation does bring very strong aftermarket but I think it's more of the end market participation choices we are making, and that was the driver of the decision.
I appreciate that. An then I just want to follow up on building automation. Just been a really impressive turnaround here over the last year. So can you -- and it seems like the global non-res backdrop has not been too accommodative. So can you just maybe talk to company-specific actions that drive the turnaround in growth? And are we seeing revenue synergies from the big security acquisition you guys did last year?
I think there are 3 strategies, which are, by the way, going to be the strategy for new Honeywell as we unveiled that in late 2026. First is how we make our mix towards higher growth verticals. So in case of buildings, we are focused on 3 or 4 markets, hospitals, hotels, data centers, airports and high-growth regions. So one is pivoting more towards that. That's action 1. Action 2 is mining installed base. We have a large installed base, how we mine it hire and deliver high single-digit growth in services. That's certainly working in building automation. And finally, the new product acceleration, the comment I mentioned to the Scott's question we have elevated R&D even in building automation, and they are the most ahead in delivering higher growth with new products.
So when you pull the three things together. We are participating in high-growth markets. We are mining our installed base better. We are turning more new products. That's becoming the driver for higher growth. The final point there is -- we had some pressure in some geographies like there was a drag in China, there's a drag in Europe in some pockets. Those have normalized now. So the building automation growth is double digit in North America, but like low single to mid-single in other different parts of the world. So that also helps because we don't have any pullbacks from some other geographies, which normalizes our results here.
Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
Can you give a little more color into what you're seeing in defense and space as it continues to accelerate here. I think the growth you've talked about in the past has been pretty balanced between the U.S. and international, but I think international defense [indiscernible] just starting to accelerate. So could you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing?
Yes. I think the defense and space growth is driven by both on the supply chain healing because it was last to heat, we have much more mechanical content in defense and space compared to commercial. So that's certainly seen as part of our results. And on the demand side, the orders remain very strong, both domestically and international defense, which is our strength, is growing double digit, and it will remain so for many years to come. We see strength in Europe. We see strength in parts of Asia like Korea, et cetera. So I think it's a combination of accelerated demand with the geopolitical circumstances in the world and the supply chain healing, which is giving us the performance in defense and space as we are demonstrating.
And then Vimal, I want to ask you about a couple of other initiatives you've been working on direct material productivity and harnessing AI you seem to mention quite a bit today cost inflation you're facing across the portfolio, but I imagine a lot of that should have been expected. So update us on your ability to offset that with your initiative here around direct material savings and then maybe how sticky have your price increases been that you've made here this year.
I think the pricing initiatives have been quite sticky. I think we have been very thoughtful to build a strategy now, which protects our earnings but also protects our volume. That is in a playbook we have been doing for 2025. And it's a tough balance because you don't want to raise the price to a point that you destroy demand. And we have been able to execute that with the minor exception of the Aerospace OE, which Mike mentioned earlier, because there's a lag on given the nature of the contract, but across Honeywell, we have been able to execute our pricing quite successfully.
What's also helping is productivity is very meaningful, which is also giving us more optionality or to what extent we want to go pricing in a certain segment and versus the margins we can drive margins through productivity. Value engineering, in particular, is performing extremely well. And that's where AI is playing a role. We have been deploying use of AI to self-determine design of the boards versus engineers taking months and months to figure out that they want to do this design or some other design. So that gains you time. So something which was used to take 2 or 3 months or take a week. So that accelerates the net savings we can drive in us in a given year. And what gives me and my confidence is that value engineering is becoming a meaningful lever for Honeywell now. We can count on it, we can financially plan it. and that can become a lever for us to think about price versus volume, not only for 2025, but in the years to come.
And Andy, from a financial framework, and we talked a little bit about it before in terms of looking at our quarters rolling forecast, et cetera. What I'm really focused with the team is on demonstrating growth over a longer period of time, consistent growth. And like Vimal said, really focusing on the top line growth and then on the bottom line growth. And then within that, whether it's price volume mix, teams have a little bit more view in terms of managing based on the verticals they're in, customers set, et cetera. So -- but really just setting the framework on delivering over a longer period of time on a consistent basis.
Our next question comes from Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
I was hoping to get some color on free cash flow. So you boosted the EPS guide, but cap free cash flow guidance the same. Just are there any puts and takes related to free cash flow for the second half you'd like to highlight?
Sure. So we have a pretty broad range on cash flow, the $5.4 billion to $5.8 billion. If you look at the moving pieces, I would say our inventory got a little bit worse just because of what we are facing right now in Aero. That hopefully will normalize in the second half. On the other hand, have a little bit of tailwind from stronger collections and higher sales and pricing. So net-net, we're the same. We're really focusing on moving towards that 90-plus percent conversion in 2026.
Great. And then just a related question. Anything in the second half on price cost that you particularly want to highlight here?
So I think, generally, if you think about our guide, our price probably vis-a-vis the last time we talked, we probably -- 100 bps better. So if thought about price of 1% to 2%, now it's 2% to 3%. Volume is probably going to be 1% to 2%. And then from a cost price standpoint, short-cycle businesses will offset. And then Aero, like I said earlier, is still working through their OE contracts, and that should normalize going towards year-end and early half of next year.
Our next question comes from Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.
I just want to make sure I understand the relationship between the tariffs and the demand contingency. And so it seems like the moratorium is -- you kind of kept the kind of tariff rates at a higher rate. And if the moratorium were to become permanent, I'd assume that maybe the demand contingency gets released to some degree. Just trying to make sure that I understand that correctly. And are there any specific segments that you could see benefiting in the second half of the year if, in fact, tariffs come in at lower rates permanently.
Sure. The way I look at the second half if you think about the short-cycle businesses, they're managing through it quite well. We haven't seen any prebuy or demand distraction there. So building automation is doing well. IA is doing better than what we thought it was going to do. It's really about our energy business. And these orders and how they convert into revenue because we're at the point now of the year where we get an order on an energy project. It takes a while to engineer it. So revenue might fall out of the year. So just managing that piece looking in the first half of next year and then also monitoring our catalyst orders, which have been a little bit softer from a forecast standpoint vis-a-vis what we expected. And that's really just a behavior that our customers can exhibit when they have sometimes a choice, they might delay those catalyst orders for a quarter or 2 and still operate their refineries and their facilities with adjusted lower output.
Got it, Mike. That's helpful. And then maybe just my quick follow- on the strategic alternative announcement on PSS and warehouse kind of looks like the demand environment there is getting a little bit worse again, so kind of bouncing along the bottom. I guess, Vimal, I know that we can't bank on any outcome here. But I guess, how are you thinking about the time line for a decision to be made on that piece of the business?
So we'll kick -- we kicked out the process, Joe, just last week now after we made the announcement. I think we get a better clarity by end of the year on the strategic options, which are available. As you can imagine, there are multiple choices. So we do expect to have the first part of it, that what choice we're going to execute it. So time is hard to put a time line here. If it was, then we would have stated an more certainty. That's why we are putting strategic options. But I would say, before end of the year, we should be able to provide more clarity on the specific time line. Now my desire list, if I want to talk, yes, we want to have as clean portfolio when the spin gets completed. That's one of the reason we initiated the strategic review now so that we could somehow converge the timing. But as you can imagine, these processes are -- you can't put a certainty of time lime around it at this point.
Our next question comes from Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank.
Maybe just starting with some of the order trends that you guys saw throughout the quarter. How would you say that orders progressed each month and then into July, it sounds like maybe energy was the only area where you saw a discernible difference. But if you talk a little bit about [ IABI ] more on the short cycle side through the quarter, that would be helpful.
Sure. So I would tell you, overall orders 6% up. Really pleased with that better orders than in the first quarter. aero led the orders grow for us, once again, very strong orders on both on Defense & Space and commercial. Building automation was low single digits, but it had tougher comps. So we didn't see anything there. And then for [ IAA ] and ESS, I would say we saw strong first 2 months and June was a little bit softer. Going into July. On the other hand, orders are continuing to be strong. So June might have been kind of a false positive in general, I feel like orders are sticking. And second quarter was better than the first quarter. And in terms of what the teams showed us for the third quarter and the forecast, we don't see a lot of concern in our order rate slowing down.
Okay. Got it. That's really helpful. And then there's a lot of discussion around what you guys are doing from a portfolio perspective, but I don't think -- we talked much about future M&A plans, and you guys have clearly been a lot more active recently. How does the M&A pipeline look today? And what is your appetite for doing more deals before the spin happens?
So Nicole, we absolutely are building our pipeline. We are going to be slightly slowing down given the activity we have on the spins in motion and some acquisition integration work we are doing. But we are not slowing down on building the pipeline. The pipeline remains strong. And we'll execute opportunities as they become available. I think what gives me more confidence is that we're getting much more comfortable not only doing the normal deal but also acting like a sponsor to do carve-out deals. We have demonstrated that capability repetitively now over the last 2 years. And that additional skill increases our optionality now because we are willing to go to other partner suggest an optionality for them to create value for both sides. And that gives me confidence that we can remain active in the portfolio side in the years ahead. So more to come. we'll continue to build our portfolio as a higher priority item under my leadership.
We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Vimal Kapur for closing remarks.
Thank you. I want to again once thanks my deep appreciation to our shareowners, our Honeybee team and our customers for their continued support during the transition time for the company, and we are excited for the future and look forward to sharing more of our progress as we deliver on our commitment. Before we close out today's call, I want to take a moment to remember our pivotal former leader of Honeywell that we lost this week, Larry Bossidy. Larry was the Chairman and CEO of [ Allied Signal ] and led the company's acquisition of Honeywell in 1999. He was a forefather of operational excellence that Honeywell is known for today and served as combined company's Chairman and CEO until his planned retirement in. He then came out of the retirement briefly to offer his leadership again as Chairman and CEO during a challenging period of our company; and under [ Zeri's ] deep , leadership, the Board hired [ Dave Cody ] new CEO, and setting up the company for the next 2 decades of tremendous value creation. He was a remarkable leader, a committed family man and our thoughts are with his family and friends at this point of time. So thank you again, everyone, for listening, and please stay safe and healthy.
This concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect from the conference. Thank you.
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Honeywell International — Q2 2025 Earnings Call
Honeywell International — Q2 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Organischer Umsatz: +5% im 2. Quartal (organisch: ohne Währungs- und Akquisitions-Effekte).
- Adjusted EPS: $2,75 (+10% YoY).
- Orders: $10,5 Mrd (+6% YoY).
- Backlog: $36,6 Mrd (+10% organisch) (Backlog = Auftragsbestand).
- Free Cash Flow: $1,0 Mrd, ~ $100 Mio unter Vorjahr (Einfluss: Tarife & Inventaraufbau).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Portfolio: Ziel: Aufspaltung in drei börsennotierte Einheiten; Advanced Materials (Ticker SOLS) soll im 4. Quartal an die NASDAQ.
- Strategische Optionen: Prüfung strategischer Alternativen für Productivity Solutions & Services und Warehouse & Workflow Solutions; Ergebnis offen, Updates bis Jahresende erwartet.
- Akquisitionen: Zukauf Catalyst‑Technologie (GBP 1,8 Mrd) und ein Tuck‑in für Gebäudeautomation zur Stärkung von UOP/Advanced Materials und Building Automation.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Jahreswachstum: Organisches Umsatzwachstum angehoben auf 4–5% (3–4% ex Bombardier‑Effekt).
- Umsatzprognose: $40,8–41,3 Mrd für 2025.
- EPS: $10,45–10,65 (+6–8% bzw. +1–3% ex Bombardier).
- Cashflow: Free Cash Flow $5,4–5,8 Mrd; Q3 organisch 2–4% ($10–10,3 Mrd).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Aero‑OE‑Nachfrage: Analysten hoben Destocking bei einem OEM hervor; Management sieht dies als vorübergehend, Normalisierung in H2 erwartet.
- Energy‑Projekte & Katalysatoren: Verschiebungen großer Energieprojekte drückten Teile von ESS/UOP; einige Katalysatorlieferungen wurden vorgezogen und entfallen teils in H2.
- R&D & Portfolio‑Timing: Erhöhter F&E‑Einsatz wurde bekräftigt; Zeitpläne für Quantinuum und strategische Verkäufe (PSS/Warehouse) bleiben vage, Management vermeidet verbindliche Deadlines.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikation: Solide Auslieferung und erhöhte Guidance bestätigen operative Stärke; Spin‑Pläne und gezielte M&A sollen Wert freisetzen. Risiken: Tarif‑Inflation, Timing großer Energieprojekte und offene Ergebnisse der strategischen Reviews.
Honeywell International — The 55th International Paris Air Show
1. Management Discussion
All right. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Honeywell Paris Air Show Investor Reception 2025. Great to have you all here, as well as those live on the webcast. I'm Sean Meakim, I lead Investor Relations for Honeywell. And we're looking forward to having a great discussion with you all today.
So first, as you all know, we're likely to make some forward-looking statements. The presentation today is available on our IR website for those who are looking to follow along with the presentation on the webcast, and all of our regular disclosures are easily found in a number of locations.
So with that, let's get on the presentation. So I'd like to welcome first up to the stage, Chairman and CEO of Honeywell, Vimal Kapur. Vimal?
So good morning, everyone, and good afternoon, and welcome to Paris Air Show Investor Event. For a 100-year-old company like Honeywell, 2 years is not a long period, but I was just remembering, 2 years back we did a similar event. And I was 5 days into the job, and Jim was not even started. And in 2 years, a lot has changed. Aerospace soon will be a stand-alone company in a year from now approximately. And I think here, we're going to talk about Honeywell Aerospace story for most part.
But before we go there, let's see how it works. No, wrong way. Just want to mention a few comments about Honeywell, and then I'll hand over it over to Jim to talk about the Aerospace. So this year is definitely a transformative year for Honeywell. And we are essentially focused on what I say, 3 priorities. The first is how we deliver 2025 flawlessly. It's been an interesting year since we started. We started Q1 relatively strong. The first 2 months of quarter 2 has gone on expected lines, and we expect the guide to hold our guide as the year progresses in 2025.
Now there have been unforeseen events like tariffs came in as the year started, and we've been all observing the geopolitical events and that uncertainty certainly plays its own role. But we remain confident that what we have projected, we are going to deliver that, on the strength of the business, what we have behind us. So that's our #1 priority. And most of our business leaders are focused on delivering the year.
Then the second priority has been that while we are focusing on delivering the year, how we focus on transformation of both Honeywell and Honeywell Aerospace. Both these entities have significant opportunity for portfolio transformation. And as you observed, we made 6 acquisitions over the last 2 years. Aerospace did 2 of them, and they are very strategic for the Aerospace portfolio. It's not about the size. It's about the capabilities which the business needed, and adding those capabilities for the CAS acquisition and Civitanavi have been very meaningful. At the same time, acquisitions in Honeywell on LNG business or Access Solutions business or Sundyne, and soon to happen JM Catalyst business, they are all to make our business more transformative. So that journey is continuing.
Now we are sensitive that we are going through the spins at this point of time and the integration of these acquisitions have to happen. So you can expect us a bit of a pause until we complete the spin work. But fundamentally, we continue to work on our pipeline and transformation of portfolio will remain our priority in the times ahead. So that's our second priority.
And the last but not the least is making the spins happen for Advanced Materials as well as for Aerospace. Now Advanced Materials spins, we announced last year October. We are far along the way. We do expect the process to complete by end of the year. There's a little probability it may spill over to 2026, but there's a high probability case that it will happen before end of the year. We have announced the CEOs. We announced the management team. We'll soon announce the Board. So we're going through the last miles of the process of spinning that business.
And at the same time, we started the work for Aerospace spin. And fundamentally, how we are running these spins is there is a separate separation management team which is running these 2 programs. So there's a -- think about a program manager for Advanced Materials spins, which gets supported by outside bankers and consulting companies like PwC and EY. And then there's a separate program office for separation of Aero spin. And these are a separate set of people who are not running the quarter day-to-day. So there's a concern that how we are doing this all simultaneously is that it's different people. Now the threats get common at my level and, of course, a few decisions I have to make. But for most part, teams are quite independent.
We also are standing up the third team apart from these 2, which is transformation of Honeywell for the future state, because we have to anticipate stranded cost as we get along, and we are not waiting for that event to occur. So we're already thinking ahead how the transformation of Honeywell has to occur. So all that work is happening in parallel. So a lot going on here, and we feel excited and we feel committed to meeting all these priorities.
So with that, I'm going to get Jim on the stage. As I mentioned, Jim started his role in August of '23, about 2 months after I started. We announced him at the Paris Air Show, and he has been leading the Aerospace team in its very difficult circumstances over the last 2 years, because the industry has gone through lots of ups and downs, which you all know. So I'll get Jim on the stage and let him tell his story. Jim, over to you.
Thank you, Vimal. It is an absolute pleasure and honor to be up here in front of you today. I'll talk a little bit about Honeywell Aerospace and what we've been doing with the business and what our plans are on a go-forward basis. And particularly of interest to be up here today to be able to talk to you about the backdrop of a couple of announcements that we're making here at the Air Show.
One of them was on the platform for Bell on the V-280, part of our defense portfolio, the selection of our auxiliary power unit and our ATTUNE micro -- I'm sorry, our ATTUNE compact vapor cycle cooling systems, the selection from Southwest Airlines to equip their entire fleet with our Smart X runway solutions provide enhanced safety and feature sets in the cockpit, both from a smart runway and a smart landing. And then also, we just recently announced as well the fact that we've taken the Leonardo AW139 and have flown it autonomously, first time that has ever happened, and with our technologies and that of our partners as well.
A couple of things I would say, something I would say here a little bit about Honeywell Aerospace and how I would characterize it a little bit. We really are a very unique and powerful franchise within the aerospace industry. We deliver highly complex systems in the most critical and most valuable portions of the airframe today. And that's for our manufacturers and our OEMs across a multitude of platforms and aircraft types. Second thing that I would say is we have an unrivaled diversified portfolio as well as an unrivaled and unmatched installed base from which we developed a lot of our technologies in the past and continue to develop for our future. Ultimately, all of this is underpinned by an operating system that is a best-in-class that allows the team to stay exceptionally focused and to drive profitability, to drive enhancements and to place us in those most valuable portions of the aircraft.
When I think about our heritage for a moment, what most people don't realize is that our heritage is built on over 100 years of operating in the aviation sector, delivering the most complicated systems and technologies, and we've been along that journey and have been a part of many first, and we've played a role in most of the major accomplishments on that journey. It started back in 1914 with the invention and creation of the first autopilot, followed by the invention and creation and deployment of the first auxiliary power units in the 1950s. We've been on every NASA crewed mission.
We've created the first integrated cockpits in the 1990s. At the turn of the century, we launched our workhorse HTF7000 engine, which is currently installed on every super midsized aircraft and has logged over 2 million hours to date. We strategically acquired 2 companies in 2024 between CAS and Civitanavi. And most recently, where we're focusing many of our attention, particularly in our Electronic Solutions business, is around air traffic control, air traffic management, deploying systems, capabilities, features and functions to enhance the safety in an aircraft, provide situational awareness to the pilots in the aircraft of any potential pending incidents that could occur, particularly in congested airspace in and around airports today.
I would say another way to characterize Honeywell is that we are at scale a mission-critical system supplier. We are across every single aircraft platform, end market segment, the breadth of the portfolio, the diversification of our end market segments. What I will tell you is about 60% of our business is commercial, 40% of our business is defense with a very well-balanced view and mix across those portfolios. We are on over 500 aircraft platforms today, and we service every single day over 10,000 customers. It is because of that scale, it is because of our technology, it's because of where we position in the most critical systems on an aircraft platform that we have a seat at the table with regulators and policymakers every single day.
When you think about our best-in-class Honeywell operating system, Honeywell Accelerator, it really allows us to create a culture within the organization and within the business. It is a culture that is continuously striving for improvement, a culture that is continuously looking at standardization of business processes, and a culture that is continuously looking at focusing the organization on the right objectives, the right goals, to drive the best outcome for the business. All of this is an enablement. It's an enablement to drive our future growth, drive profitability, drive cash flow and allow us to propel ourselves for the future.
When I think about the way we operate the business today, we fundamentally have 3 strategic business units within the portfolio. Every single one of them supporting multiple end market segments, multiple aircraft platforms and that are supported by the over 80 manufacturing and engineering facilities we have around the world and the 30,000 employees that support our business around the world. When I think about the 3 independent businesses, we break them down into Electronic Solutions, you can think of that in terms of integrated cockpits, flight management systems, communications, navigation, surveillance, basically solving the most difficult problems around automating, safety, reliability, efficiency and enhancements.
The second portion of our business is Engines and Power Systems, where we designed gas turbine-powered engines for business jets, military aircraft, military helicopters, as well as distribute auxiliary power as well throughout the aircraft. Again, founded upon maximizing performance of the aircraft, maximizing efficiency in a safe and reliable manner. The third portion of our business is our Control Systems business, precise management of cabin pressurization, air and thermal management, engine fuel controls, lighting, wheels and brakes, and electrification of those platforms and solving the most complex thermal management issues that exist on airframes today.
The one thing that you will note on the chart is that the balance of the portfolio is not overly indexed to any one portion of the business from a revenue perspective. We're very well balanced between 40% of our revenue in Electronic Solutions, 30% in Engines, and 30% in Control Solutions. It's the breadth of that portfolio that allows us to produce integrated systems that maximize the performance of an aircraft, the efficiency of an aircraft and simplicity for our customers.
As illustrated on this chart, one of the things I would make mention of again is how we have an unmatched diversification of the portfolio within the aerospace ecosystem. We are virtually on every single aircraft platform, business jets, air transport, helicopters, space, unmanned aerial vehicles, essentially leveraging our technology across those platforms. The other thing I would mention that's a little bit different for us is our exposure in the commercial portions of our portfolio. We are not over-indexed into commercial air transport. We have a very good balance for commercial OE, where half of our business comes from business jets, the other half from commercial air transport. And if you think about the aftermarket portion of our commercial portfolio, 1/3 of it comes from business aviation, 2/3 from commercial air transport.
As I made mention, we're on over 500 aircraft platforms around the world today. Not a single one of them represents more than mid-single-digit revenue as a percent overall for our business. But there's no better way to truly illustrate where we are in the ecosystem of the aerospace industry than this particular chart, which is one of my favorites that we have. It depicts commercial air transport, defense, business jets. It depicts by the colors of the circles, anything that you see in red is part of our Electronic Solutions business. Anything you see in gray, it's part of our Engines and Power Systems business. Anything you see in black is part of our Control Systems business. This does not leave much space on these platforms for other content. But I would tell you, it's just not about the content on the aircraft, but the type of content that you have on the aircraft. These are all mission-critical systems that are solving the most complex issues to maintain safe and reliable aircraft, and they are of the highest value on every single one of these systems.
Another thing that I would point out on this chart is how these products and parcels of the portfolio appear on multiple platforms and in multiple crossover end market segments. You'll see flight management systems, flight controls, flight decks across multiple end market segments. You'll see APUs across each individual market segment on this chart. You'll also see precision navigation in commercial air transport, business aviation and defense. There's a reason why that is the case, and it's how we leverage our technology and leverage our investment dollars.
The one thing I would say is that we are truly operating in a very, very high momentum industry and market segment with very strong tailwinds associated with it, which bodes well for our business, bodes well for our portfolio, again, when you think about the breadth of the portfolio in all 3 end market segments that we are serving. That setup provides us a long-term sales CAGR of being in the mid-single-digit to high single-digit range for the aerospace portfolio. And it's largely driven, if you break that down, into OE and aftermarket. We are operating in an environment of historic OE backlogs of aircraft, not only in the air transport space, but also in business aviation, where as I mentioned before, half of our commercial OE business comes from business aviation.
We are also continuing to operate in a very resilient air travel demand environment, as indicated by flight hours that are occurring around the world. And we continue to see high utilization of business jets through fractionals and shared services as well. And not to leave out the Defense and Space. The continued and ongoing geopolitical issues that are happening around the world, the conflicts that are happening around the world, the amount of investment that is being made around the world, both in support of the U.S. and our allies, positions us very well for continued growth in the mid-single-digit range relative to that on a go-forward basis.
But what I described to you a moment ago is really driven around something that we call coupled growth. This is the growth that is attributable to the number of flight hours that you are flying, the number of missions that our military is performing, the production rates of OE aircraft. That is all coupled growth. It's very simple. Number of flight hours translate to the number of maintenance, repair and overhaul events. The number of production aircraft that are being delivered, depending upon shipset content, translates into how much revenue you have. That's all very coupled to the market.
We embarked upon an additional growth algorithm in Honeywell Aerospace that we started about 20 years ago. It precisely started in 2014. And about 5 to 6 years after we started that, we started realizing the benefits of those investments that we were making. And it's what we call retrofits, mods and upgrades, or affectionately, within Honeywell Aerospace, RMUs. And this is capitalizing on our installed base that we have today, that unrivaled installed base that I mentioned earlier, whereby these aircraft are flying for 15, 20 and 30 years with our equipment.
They need to be upgraded. They need to have the latest performance enhancements. They need safety features added to them as well. That falls under the realm of these value offerings of retrofits, mods and upgrades that is not coupled to what is occurring in the market segment itself. Hence, why we call it decoupled growth. And on that journey that we've been on, we've been able to grow this business into about $1.5 billion in 2024, at double-digit CAGR growth. It represents about 10% of overall Honeywell Aerospace revenues. And as you can imagine, a lot of these are software upgrades, which brings along with them high-margin opportunities to capitalize on that with the installed base.
The other area that I would focus in on a little bit about Honeywell Aerospace that makes us a little bit unique is the amount of business that we do in the international market. And I'm not referring to this market segment for us as foreign military sales. These are direct sales that we make to international defense OEMs and/or MODs around the world. Over the last few years, we spent a significant amount of attention and focus in this space, recognizing the opportunity that it created. We have a tremendous amount of commercially developed product that has direct applicability into defense applications in the international market segment, where we're able to sell direct commercially to these customers, these international OEMs and MOD governments as well, therefore, driving double-digit growth as noted.
You can see with that attention and focus being applied in about the 2022 time frame really has translated itself into the growth algorithm and trajectory change, the slope change that we started to see in 2023, '24, '25, and will continue to be on that trajectory on a go-forward basis for us.
Our Defense business today, about 75% of it is domestic U.S. defense work. 25% of that business is international and growing again at double-digit rates for us, largely driven, again, conflicts, geopolitical concerns and the desire for countries to continue to increase their budgets, as noted on the lower right-hand side, to continue to be a little bit more self-autonomous in terms of how they want to defend themselves. And this creates unique opportunities for us as well and it's part of our international defense growth strategy, recognizing the desire for countries to be more self-reliant, autonomous in their defense needs, particularly here in the EU and establishing that capability to grow that business by looking, acting and operating as part of Honeywell Aerospace in the EU as an EU company.
We have over 1,000 engineers sitting here throughout the EU. located in Brno in the Czech Republic and in Krakow, Poland, that are focused heavily on designing and developing technologies and with an emphasis on designing and developing those technologies for use in defense applications here. Think of it as a local-for-local capability. And we recognize the criticality of doing that as well through the acquisition that we did last year of Civitanavi, an inertials company based in Italy, designing low-cost, high-performing inertials for applicability and usage in the military defense market and a manufacturing footprint in Italy, absolutely critical. It's not just about the technology, but it's establishing a manufacturing footprint. And that's provided us an anchor point from which we can grow and develop the EU market from an international defense standpoint.
But everything that I've described, the demand, the opportunities, the technology, the innovation, the products, none of it comes to be without a robust and resilient supply base. We have won, over the last 3 years, over $70 billion of lifetime contract wins in the Honeywell Aerospace business. Those are products that need to be developed, they are products that need to be manufactured, and they are products that need to be delivered to our customers. Over the last couple of years, we've spent north of $1 billion in our supply base through adding resources in touch labor, non-touch labor, in-sourcing, dual-sourcing, multi-sourcing, such that we've been able to realize 11 consecutive quarters of double-digit output growth from our factories as a direct result of those investments that we're making.
But it doesn't stop there. As you think about the future, we will continue to invest into the supply base like I've described. But to get to the next level of output, we're going to have to look at other areas of investment as well and are part of our plans going forward. That's capacity expansion for new products that we are introducing into the market. It's the incorporation of AI tools across the portfolio where now we are digitally connected within the business and down to our suppliers from a planning and procurement perspective. And it's creating smart factories, automating where we can automate within our factories. All of that through the work that we've done over the last couple of years and what we need to do for the future is going to be an enablement for us to be able to double the size of our business in the 2030s time frame.
I'll spend a little bit of time here to talk about RD&E investment in the portfolio. Due to our sheer size and scale of our business, we're able to continually invest in helping our customers solve, again, those most complex issues that they deal with day in and day out. And we are a trusted partner and have been for decades with our customers to innovate and solve these issues for them. When you look at this chart, our overall spend is actually quite favorable when you comp it against the majority of our peers across the board. But what I would highlight is that is a one metric to evaluate when you look at RD&E investment.
One of the ones that I spend most time focusing on is how did you invest? How efficient were you in that investment? How far were you able to stretch that dollar across the portfolio? And what do I mean by that is that when I talk about the development of products and I talk about core products that we are developing, we develop them for multiple applications, multiple aircraft, multiple end market segments. You saw that on the earlier chart when I was showing where we are positioned across all 3 of those end market segments. Why is that important? That's stretching your investment dollar to the max to be able to capitalize on the capability you have, the technology and driving that into other aircraft platforms.
And there's 3 examples of that on this chart, 3 recent examples that I would point to. 3 new products, 3 breakthrough initiatives around Honeywell Anthem, around ASSURE and around ATTUNE, whereby on Honeywell Anthem, that integrated flight deck has now been selected on 5 aircraft platforms crossing multiple end market segments. The ASSURE electromechanical actuation system has now been selected on 6 aircraft platforms across multiple end market segments. And our Honeywell ATTUNE, the compact vapor cycle cooling system has now been selected on 5 different aircraft platforms and again, across multiple end market segments. That's how you recognize and maximize your ROI on every single dollar that you spend.
But those are the recent examples. This is not new. It's not novel. We've been doing this for decades within Honeywell Aerospace. The other examples that I would give as you think about some of our product franchises that we have across the board, precision navigational systems, ring laser gyros, again, across commercial, bizjet, defense. Auxiliary power units, the emergency and essential backup power source on your aircraft, again, across commercial, defense, and bizjet, and our fuel control systems, precise fuel flow across reliable and ensuring reliable engine performance, again, across commercial, bizjet, and defense platforms. So again, this is not new and novel. This is what we've been doing for decades to maximize the ROI investments. And not only does that strategy and approach provide you benefit to maximize that, you're able to now efficiently determine how you invest your dollars, where you invest your dollars, manufacturing footprints, how do you maximize your supply chain to drive that and enable that to go forward.
But as in any industry, there are trends that you must consider as to what's happening. And we look at that, historically speaking, from an advanced technology standpoint. Over 10% of our current investments today are looking at advanced technologies for development 10 years from now, 15 years from now, 20 years from now. So some of these trends that I've highlighted on this page, these 6 key trends across the top, we were already looking at those 10 years ago, 15 years ago as part of our advanced technology group. You think about the path to autonomy, efficient engine operation, electrification, increased safety, next-gen defense and unmanned vehicles.
All of these trends are driven to solve certain critical issues that are happening in the aerospace ecosystem. You can think of pilot shortages. You can think of how can you address that from autonomous operations. You can think of safe and reliable operations in the aircraft. How do you reduce crew interactions with the aircraft? How do you reduce those interfaces with the pilot, make them automated such that the pilot can focus on those things that really matter, those things that are of critical importance during flight, during takeoff, during landings and the like?
The electrification that is happening across the fleet, it's not about tech and differentiation. Thermal management is a critical element that's crept into our industry that requires novel and innovative solutions that we are developing. I mentioned earlier some of our technology around Smart X, runway safety and the like, and our surface Alert technology, which we will certify next year. Again, bringing pilot situational awareness data back into the cockpit, so that the pilot can make real-time decisions in a much more expeditious manner and drive enhanced safety across the industry. And then lastly, in the defense space, a very dynamic environment, rapidly changing as we are witnessing across the world and technologies and the like, ensuring that we've got the proper technologies, the proper systems around electromagnetic warfare, anti-jamming solutions, precision navigation, GPS resilient navigations across the board.
I could go on and on talking about what our technologists do, our scientists do, our engineers do, what our people do as being an integral fabric of the aerospace ecosystem. But foundationally, who we are? We solve complex problems across all forms of aircraft, the most complex problems that drive the highest value across the organization with an eye and a focus on key industry trends, electrification, autonomy as an example. Our business is well balanced across the market, not just in terms of the breadth of the portfolio, but our exposure in commercial air transport, bizjet and defense. And we have the most mature operating model across the industry today, again, driving simplification, focus, attention and driving margins that are best-in-class across our industry.
So thank you again for your time. It's been an honor to be able to talk to you about Honeywell Aerospace. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Sean for the rest of the program.
Thank you, Jim; thank you, Vimal, for that presentation. We're going to end the webcast here. So thanks, everyone, for joining on the webcast. For the folks in the audience here, we're are going to move to a quick video, and then we're going to open the floor to Q&A. Thank you.
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Honeywell International — The 55th International Paris Air Show
Honeywell International — The 55th International Paris Air Show
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Honeywell priorisiert fehlerfreie Ausführung für 2025, gleichzeitig laufen Portfoliotransformation und zwei geplante Abspaltungen (Advanced Materials, Aerospace). Aerospace wird als eigenständiges, wachstumsstarkes Geschäft positioniert, gestützt durch Retrofit‑/Upgrade‑Momentum, internationale Verteidigungschancen und gezielte Supply‑Chain‑Investitionen.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Spin‑Plan: Aerospace soll in etwa einem Jahr eigenständig werden; Advanced Materials ist für Ende 2025 geplant, mit geringer Wahrscheinlichkeit einer Verschiebung ins Jahr 2026. Trennungsteams und externe Berater (PwC, EY) sollen das Tagesgeschäft schützen.
- Produkt‑ und Kundenwins: Auswahl von APU und ATTUNE‑Kühlung für Bell V‑280, Southwest wählt Smart X Runway für Flotten‑Rollout, autonome Flugdemonstration der Leonardo AW139 — konkrete Marktreferenzen.
- Wachstumshebel: Retrofits/Mods/Upgrades (RMU) ~ $1,5 Mrd in 2024 mit double‑digit CAGR; internationales Verteidigungswachstum und $70 Mrd an Lifetime‑Wins stützen mittelfristiges Wachstum.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Neu: Konkretisierte Spin‑Timings (Aero ≈ 1 Jahr; Advanced Materials Ende 2025 ±), Air Show‑Ankündigungen (Bell, Southwest, autonome AW139), Supply‑Investitionen > $1 Mrd, 11 Quartale mit double‑digit Output‑Wachstum und Ziel, Aerospace in den 2030er Jahren deutlich zu skalieren.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Implikationen: Parallel laufende Spins und Integrationen erhöhen kurzfristig Ausführungsrisiken, schaffen aber mittelfristig signifikantes Wertpotenzial, falls Timings, RMU‑Momentum und Lieferketteninvestitionen halten. Anleger sollten Spin‑Zeitplan, RMU‑Wachstum, Großaufträge und bevorstehende Zertifizierungen genau beobachten.
Honeywell International — 3rd Annual Jefferies eVTOL / AAM Summit
1. Question Answer
Good morning, everyone. My name is Sheila Kahyaoglu with the Jefferies Aerospace, Defense and Airlines Equity Research team. Thank you so much for joining us for our third Annual eVTOL AAM Summit. Today, we're lucky to have Sean Meakim here, who's VP of Investor Relations; as well as David Shilliday, who's VP and General Manager of Honeywell's Aerospace Advanced Air Mobility Business, who will be discussing how Honeywell is enabling the eVTOL market.
In case you haven't heard from David at an event recently, he's VP and General Manager, as I mentioned, of the UAM organization. He's been with Honeywell for over 19 years and most recently, prior to his current role, was in the Power Systems business with Engines and Power Systems. He's based out of Phoenix, I believe, right, David?
Correct.
Although you're currently not there and you're at a rather neat facility of sorts. So with that intro, David, thank you so much for joining us.
Maybe you could talk to us about how Honeywell plays into the advanced air mobility market?
Yes. And thank you for the opportunity to speak with you, Sheila. I always look forward to these discussions. About 5 years ago, Honeywell created a dedicated business unit for advanced air mobility, and that was based on the belief that this nascent market was going to need a different set of solutions and a different model for support of these early-stage customers.
So we needed a group that could move at the pace of the Archer's and the Vertical's and the Electra's that had a start-up mentality and a very disruptive MOS. So we needed to be adaptable enough to work with legacy players and entrants from the automotive space at the same time. So we led the charge, we won some early programs with these early players, knowing not all of them would ultimately see high-volume production, but it would improve our core technology through collaboration with them.
And now 5 years of that collaboration later, our technology stack has matured. It's allowed us to create some new offerings, things like inceptors, which we've announced recently, while at the same time, supporting flight testing on that first wave of customers. Some of those first customers are moving closer to certification and production, and we're right there alongside of them.
The other cool thing that's been great to witness over this 5 years is some of these solutions that we developed in that sandbox with our AAM customers have now found homes in more traditional end markets. You've seen Anthem, which was developed in cooperation with a lot of early AAM players, now announcements with folks like Bombardier and Boom, things like our two cooling systems. We've now seen those announced on programs like the Bell Valor as well as flight controls in areas like helo and defense. And so those are other big end markets for us. So it's a great signal of how we're able to innovate here in this space and ultimately, how it fits with our broader road map and helps us achieve scale when these AAM customers go into production.
Maybe Honeywell is great at giving forecast, and so Sean is on the phone to keep up and check. But I think you've previously talked about a $31 billion addressable market for Honeywell for AAM, including air taxi of $20 billion, middle mile cargo of $10 billion and local light parcel of $1 billion by 2030. Can you maybe walk us through some of these? Should we be updating them? How do you think about the mix of opportunities?
Yes. I guess the biggest shift has been in what those early missions are going to be. We continue to believe in this end market. Some of the early forecasts were probably a bit optimistic for some of the commercial applications. But as we've seen the shift towards things like emergency services or things like DoD special missions, we've seen the vehicles pivot towards those special missions.
And so just starting with that as sort of the top-level analysis. What -- the other thing that we've seen is that geographically, it's going to be an uneven road, right? Today, we're seeing a lot of players in the East lead the way relative to rulemaking and early activities. I think we're going to start to see some special missions in the rest of the world really start to pick up. But if the question is when do we think this is material to Honeywell Aerospace? We still feel confident that the AAM end market is material to Honeywell Aerospace in the 2030s. And while we continue to expect that there's going to be a shift in mission and there's going to be shift in who's at the front of the race, we continue to believe in the end market as well as what we're learning along the way.
Maybe if we could talk about your products you'll supply to the AAM market. How do we think about that? I think starting foremost with Anthem, that opportunity. Of course, it will be eVTOLs, but you'll supply that into commercial transport and business aviation, whether it's new build or retrofits. If you could talk to us about Anthem for a minute?
Yes, a lot going on in the world of Anthem. And a lot of the feedback we got from those early players like Vertical and Supernal helped improve the architecture and the pilot experience for Anthem. And so now you've seen announcements for things like a multi-platform partnership with Bombardier. We've got another announced Bizav win as well as a retrofit campaign that we'll be announcing soon.
And then you have things like Boom, which is a pretty disruptive aircraft where they've announced they're using the Anthem cockpit as well. And so that's exactly what we want to see is our co-innovation with these customers, making it a better solution for the next customer and the next customer, including the next AAM customer, right, who's going to get the benefits of all of the development that we've done along the way.
Maybe step back because folks might not know what Anthem is. So can you talk about Anthem avionics? How it's different than the prior system Epic? And what should we expect the first application to be? Is it eVTOL and when would it enter service?
That's a great question. So in terms of what Anthem is, Anthem is our integrated cockpit. And the big places that's differentiated from systems like Epic are, one, it's highly scalable; two, larger air transport aircraft all the way down to GA aircraft, and it allows you to host other applications on the Anthem cockpit, which gives you unique capabilities and unique co-innovation opportunities with other software systems you might want to integrate there.
The other thing is that these systems, it is designed to be connected all the time, which is really what the future is going to look like as well as it's designed for a future where reduced crew operations up to 0 crew operations are going to be evolving. And so Anthem is future-proofed for all of those developments along the way. So modular open system allows us to integrate with other systems or host other systems.
And when would the first application come into place? Would it be new build on eVTOL? And when would you expect that to enter service?
Well, we've publicly announced that it's the cockpit. It's the integrated cockpit on the Vertical aircraft, which will -- is targeting EIS in 2030. I think that will be a bit of a foot race between it and some of the other unannounced applications for Anthem. So I'm -- I would say it's 50-50 that it's either an AAM application or a more traditional end market where you'll see Anthem first.
You mentioned Bombardier new products, and thank goodness, Sean is on, so I don't get in trouble again. But how do we think about other applications in addition to potentially eVTOL? And would -- could it be retrofitted on to existing platforms? What sort of FAA certification would it involve?
Keeping myself out of trouble with both Sean and my boss, I'm going to keep my powder dry on that one, except to say we have a big retrofit campaign for what we would consider to be a more traditional end market with Anthem that we'll be announcing soon.
And -- could you retrofit it? Did this aircraft have to get recertified?
Yes.
Okay. I think you've talked about the pipeline of UAM being about $10 billion. What are you seeing in winning the largest opportunities across the portfolio?
Yes, there's been a bit of a shift. Early on, our pipeline was really about Anthem, the integrated cockpit as well as our flight controls, our compact fly-by-wire were really the big drivers for that pipeline. And while we continue to have demand for those, we've seen increased interest and wins for our Attune, our micro vapor cycle system, folks like Archer and Bell Valor have taken on that system, the [ Asure ] electromechanical actuation, a number of wins there, including Archer and Electra who are using that electromechanical actuation system.
And we see demand across all vehicle types and missions for our navigation systems, right, where we have a long legacy. And probably the things we haven't been talking about since the last time we were here with you is new technologies like our inceptor, our side stick, which we originally developed for the Orion spacecraft, but we found that it is a unique benefit to AAM customers. So Vertical has recently announced that they'll be using our side stick on their VX4 vehicle.
And so this is exactly what we want to be doing is either developing new technologies that fit an unmet need with our customers or adapting existing technology to meet that unmet need. So it's a bit like puzzle pieces, right? The more we can understand these customer needs as they go through their development and certification process, we add more pieces into the mix to help them solve that. And we think a year from now, when we're talking to you, there will be even more of that.
So when we think about the AAM portfolio, like where should we think about the biggest value add? Is it avionics, fly-by-wire? Is it propulsion?
So they have different business models. I guess if you think about our avionics systems or fly-by-wires, there's constantly going to be updates and improvements to the control laws for updates and improvements to the software that goes into that integrated cockpit. By contrast, you can imagine things like electromechanical actuation or things like cooling systems where those controls are learning over time, how to operate more efficiently, how to predict wear-out modes.
And so the business models are very different, right, whether you're talking software upgrade or whether you're talking replacement and repair. So the biggest value add when we sell to the OEM may be something like the cockpit or like the flight controls, over the life of the vehicle, it could end up being something more mechanical, right, that's going to need repair and replace something like the electromechanical actuation or a big cooling system.
And how do you think about the investment involved in UAM? How do you -- how much of it is products you've developed for your existing portfolio that you could transfer into UAM? How does Honeywell think about that in developing new technologies with industry partners?
Yes. So the vast majority of technologies we're offering in this space were invested as part of an aerospace road map. They are not bespoke in any way for AAM. So if you think of the development of a cockpit of the future in Anthem, that was a long-term strategy for Bizav, for defense, for air transport. So the early adopters of that and some of the early iterations went through AAM, but that was always a core investment for us. Similarly, electromechanical actuation, flight controls, cooling systems, again, core road maps where we were able to evolve and improve those products with our AAM customers.
The number of unique AAM offerings, that's a relatively modest investment, things like our ground control station that allows you to operate uncrewed vehicles in a controlled air space is something that we invested in specifically for this product in a relatively modest way and in coordination with a number of the regulators and a number of cooperative partners there.
Another one that I would say sort of straddles the line between core investment and AAM investment is something like the work we do on autonomy. So we've announced some investments with a company called Near Earth Autonomy, where we're flying Black Hawks remotely. And part of that is how we advance the Anthem cockpit for more simplified vehicle operations or reduced crew operations. That's something that is on our long-term road map, but will likely be adopted first by AAM customers.
So maybe the three buckets to put it into, Sheila, where we can take an existing certified product and drop it into an AAM vehicle, we do that. So think our navigation systems, think our sensors. If we can adapt it, something like Anthem or our flight controls where the core product is developed, but specific software development or control laws need to be adapted for that vehicle. That's sort of the second bucket. And then the third bucket would be something we developed specifically for the AAM market, and that would be something like our ground control station. Hopefully, I'm still there, Sheila.
Sorry, I was muting it as I was writing. How do we think about target markets and revenue generation of Honeywell's AAM business?
Yes. The geography is highly dynamic. So sort of which geography is going to go first for which mission is -- I spend a lot of my day following that. And maybe the only noncontroversial statement would be that the Eastern Hemisphere is going to have the early adoption. The rulemaking landscape there has set the pace. And the good news is that has been and will be a catalyst for progress in the West, right? They published the rules. They've certified a couple of early vehicles for operation.
And then we see folks in between like the UAE moving really aggressively to find a path to incorporate these vehicles into the airspace. And I don't want to downplay the U.S. announced AAM as a strategic priority on inauguration day. And while Secretary Duffy has a lot on his plate relative to modernizing the airspace, he's really been -- he's really leaned forward in terms of making this a priority.
And one of your other speakers, I love what Archer has done relative to their commitment to LA 2028 as sort of a forcing function to move regulators and adoption forward. It increases the pressure for folks like us who are supporting Archer with critical systems, but we'll gladly take that to see the market move forward and learn what the next need and what the next challenge is going to be so that we reveal those and get busy solving them.
Maybe if we could talk about just the content. Honeywell's, I think given this content or we might have guessed it, $200,000 to $1.5 million on a typical UAM, $2 million to $5 million vehicle price. So I think -- I don't know if we backed into that. And then $100,000 to $1.5 million on an autonomous cargo and then $5,000 to $60,000 of content on a delivery drone. So how do you think about -- are those figures, right? Have they changed at all? What do you think is the first to enter service? How do you think about the allocation of your resources?
Yes, that's a lot. But maybe I'll start with just the first part in terms of the value per vehicle. Our specialty is always going to be the most complex safety-critical vehicles. And so things like Anthem and flight controls and some of the electromechanical systems I described that puts them probably towards the higher end of that range that you've described per vehicle. Autonomous cargo is going to need fewer of those systems. Certainly, it doesn't need a lot of the pilot interface, right, if they're going to be remotely piloting or autonomously operating those vehicles. So that value comes down a little.
And then as you move towards something like delivery drones, that's not going to be our sweet spot. We do things like ground control stations to really figure out how we're going to manage the airspace in the future. But that is not the most safety-critical big vehicle operation. So we're going to tend to focus our precious resources, as you described, on those larger vehicles who really need higher safety requirements and more complex systems.
Any thoughts on like how you work with the regulators to certify the aircraft? Or just does Honeywell take sort of a direction from the OEM on that?
A little bit of both. So we're certainly arm in arm with our customers when they're talking with the regulators because certainly, we need an Anthem architecture or a flight controls architecture that we are confident will be certified under the most stringent rules.
And so we typically go arm in arm with our OEM partners so that we understand the feedback they're getting from the regulators in a space that has not been solved before, right? These are new questions being asked in a lot of spaces that we're going to have to navigate for the first time.
And so at the vehicle level, they're going to be responsible for that ultimately. But for all those pieces along the way that we provide that allow them to meet those criteria to meet those vehicle level safety requirements, we try to join with them. And we also try to help educate regulators on some of the unique things with these vehicles and some of the design trades to solve it.
When we think about Honeywell and UAM and the content there, is it similar to general transportation and commercial transportation when we think about the percentage Honeywell can have on an aircraft? Or is it more of an opportunity for Honeywell?
I think it's more of an opportunity. One of the things I haven't really touched on is because of the breadth of our portfolio. Think of everything from when the pilot touches the side stick, which then sends a signal to the flight controls, which then translates that into an action for an electromechanical actuator and then the cockpit provides the feedback on what that has done to the orientation of the vehicle. We can provide all of those systems, and we can also integrate those systems in a way that reduces the size, weight and power requirements of it.
And so I think there's enormous opportunity for us to sort of redefine what those buckets of product offering are and merge them together in a way that reduces the cost of integration, creates simplicity, allows these vehicles to be certified and operate more efficiently. So I think the traditional silos of the products we provide are going to get merged together in new and unique ways. And I think it's going to be to the benefit of our customers as well as to the people who get to fly on these aircraft.
With that said, like how do we think about the revenue ramp and profit opportunity for Honeywell, if that's possible at all? Sean is wiping down his face, so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask that because that wasn't in the original set of questions.
I think the one thing we can say for sure is that it's going to be lumpy. It's not going to be a straight line. And I expect that we're going to see some missions that we hadn't predicted suddenly ramp up, which will drive production of vehicles that maybe we thought would be second wave entrants. And we'll -- I think we'll see some folks that we thought would be at the front end potentially struggle. And we're bullish on the end market. And so we're willing to continue to advance our road map, find other homes for it while this market matures.
Maybe one more in terms of just the safety, the public acceptance of eVTOL. How do you think about some of the restrictions versus, say, commercial aircraft have? How could we make eVTOL like wider -- more widely accepted?
So two thoughts there. One is the more conspicuous we can make the airspace, everything in the airspace, the more it will drive the opportunity for new vehicles to be part of that air space. So conspicuity all the way down to small drones to GA aircraft to large air transport aircraft and awareness of the airspace will create an opportunity where we're less concerned about a new and novel entrant coming into that airspace. So that sounds like motherhood and apple pie. But I do think it's worth saying again and again, as we think about modernizing the airspace that, that's critical not only for the vehicles that operate today, but for the vehicles that are coming around along the way.
The second is we keep very close tabs on sort of new and novel applications to see what the challenges with public adoption are. And I'll just give two examples from where I live in Arizona. One is Waymo, where early on, that felt like a novelty and now it is absolutely an indelible part of the landscape. People love Waymos. You see them all over our highways and our surface roads in Phoenix.
It went from -- I would never do that to suddenly it's an indelible part of people's lives there. The other one on the west side of Phoenix is where we see drone delivery. Again, fairly small applications, fairly limited range, but we're listening to what the public feedback is on that because we think it's a potential indicator of either the challenges or the positive feedback we might see when UAM/UAS vehicles become more seen and heard in the landscape.
Maybe two more and we're done. I think we have 20 companies in total presenting today. Given Honeywell is a supplier, how many of them have you officially partnered with? And is this something that we should sort of look forward to as we think over the next few years, more announcements and more partnerships and more products?
The answer is yes. There's plenty more that we are actively developing with that we have not announced. Being completely transparent, we are choosy. We have to be. We want to make sure we're deploying our precious resources, primarily engineering resources on those programs and those vehicles that we feel have the highest chance of success. And so there are a lot of programs that have not been made public that I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you hear our name attached to. But I don't think you'll see a list so long that you would be concerned about that Honeywell has spread themselves too thin.
Got it. Well, and then one last one for you. What -- 1 or 2 things you're most excited for the next year looking ahead for Honeywell?
Well, first and foremost, in this space, I'd be remiss if I didn't say I want to fly on one of these, wherever the early opportunities are, whether it's a demo, tourism flight or some early opportunities to be with one of our customers as they do demonstration activity, I'm going to get on one of these aircraft sooner rather than later.
The other is seeing business applications that were not originally envisioned, right? It's like the early days of the Internet where we didn't know what we do with high-speed Internet until we had it. I can't wait to see when these really start to show up at scale, the great ideas that people have and the economies that get opened up as a result of these new and disruptive vehicles.
Awesome. Well, we'll look forward to that, too. And I'm yet to try that Waymo car. I've only seen it as I passed by Phoenix. So -- and I think, but we'll look forward to adoption of all things new and innovative. So thank you so much, David, for doing this, and thank you, Sean, as well for involving Honeywell. And that concludes our webcast, everyone.
Thank you, Sheila.
Thank you, Sheila.
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Honeywell International — 3rd Annual Jefferies eVTOL / AAM Summit
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🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Geschäftsmodell: Honeywell betreibt seit ~5 Jahren eine dedizierte Advanced Air Mobility (AAM)-Einheit, um mit Startups und OEMs ko‑innovativ Systeme zu entwickeln.
- Marktgröße: Management nennt ein adressierbares Marktvolumen von ~$31 Mrd bis 2030 (u.a. $20bn Air Taxi, $10bn Middle‑mile Cargo).
- Zeithorizont: Honeywell sieht AAM als materiell für Aerospace in den 2030er Jahren; kurzfristig bleibt Adoption geographisch und missionsabhängig ungleich.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- Anthem: Integriertes, skalierbares Cockpit (multi‑platform, always‑connected, vorbereitet für reduzierte Crew/0‑Crew); angekündigte Partnerschaften mit Bombardier und Boom.
- Produktmix: Drei Angebots‑Buckets: (1) zertifizierte Drop‑ins (Navigation, Sensoren), (2) adaptierte Kernprodukte (Anthem, Fly‑by‑wire), (3) AAM‑spezifische Lösungen (Ground Control Station).
- Technologien: Neue Hard‑/Software‑Teile wie Inceptor (Side‑stick), Attune (Micro‑Vapor Cooling), electromechanical actuation; Kundenbeispiele: Archer, Vertical, Electra, Bell Valor.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Reifegrad: Management betont, dass der Technologie‑Stack in 5 Jahren deutlich gereift ist und mehrere Komponenten nun in traditionellen Märkten genutzt werden.
- Konkrete Wins: Multi‑platform‑Ankündigungen (Bombardier, Boom), Retrofit‑Campaign für Anthem in Vorbereitung; Kooperationen mit Near Earth Autonomy (Autonomie/Remote‑Flüge).
- Timing Anthem: Erste EIS‑Aussage für Vertical zielt auf 2030; Management sieht ~50:50 Chance, ob Anthem zuerst in AAM oder traditionellen Märkten einsetzt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Zertifizierung: Wie erfolgt FAA/Regulator‑Abstimmung? Management arbeitet „arm‑in‑arm“ mit OEMs, blieb aber zu spezifischen Zulassungswegen und Zertifizierungsdetails vage.
- Revenues & Content: Diskussion über Content‑Range pro Vehicle ($200k–$1.5M für UAM, $2–$5M Fahrzeugpreis); Management erwartet einen „lumpy“ Ramp‑Up, keine near‑term Umsatzprognose.
- Risiken & Partnerschaften: Wie viele Partnerschaften sind öffentlich? Honeywell sagt, mehr ungenannte Kooperationen laufen; man bleibt selektiv, um Ressourcen zu fokussieren.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call bestätigt, dass Honeywell AAM als langfristige Option betrachtet und technologisch gut positioniert ist (Anthem, Actuators, Cooling, Autonomie). Kurzfristig bleiben Umsätze volatil und abhängig von Zulassungen und welche OEMs durchstarten; Risiko von Kunden‑Ausfällen wird durch Übertragbarkeit der Technologie auf traditionelle Märkte gemildert.
Finanzdaten von Honeywell International
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EBITDA
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der EBIT-Marge.
Nettogewinn
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Nettogewinn einfach erklärtaktien.guide Basis
| Mär '26 |
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%
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| Umsatz | 39.661 39.661 |
4 %
4 %
100 %
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| - Direkte Kosten | 25.082 25.082 |
6 %
6 %
63 %
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| Bruttoertrag | 14.579 14.579 |
0 %
0 %
37 %
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| - Vertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten | 5.491 5.491 |
0 %
0 %
14 %
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| - Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten | 1.935 1.935 |
21 %
21 %
5 %
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| EBITDA | 8.956 8.956 |
6 %
6 %
23 %
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| - Abschreibungen | 1.371 1.371 |
3 %
3 %
3 %
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| EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis) EBIT | 7.585 7.585 |
6 %
6 %
19 %
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| Nettogewinn | 4.511 4.511 |
21 %
21 %
11 %
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Angaben in Millionen USD.
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Honeywell International, Inc. ist ein Software-Industrieunternehmen, das branchenspezifische Lösungen für Produkte und Dienstleistungen in den Bereichen Luft- und Raumfahrt sowie Automobil anbietet. Es ist spezialisiert auf Steuer-, Mess- und Sicherheitstechnologien für Turbolader in Gebäuden und Wohnungen, Spezialchemikalien, elektronische und fortschrittliche Materialien, Prozesstechnologie für Raffinerien und Petrochemikalien sowie energieeffiziente Produkte und Lösungen für Haushalte, Unternehmen und Transport. Sie ist in den folgenden Segmenten tätig: Luft- und Raumfahrt; Haus- und Gebäudetechnologien; Hochleistungsmaterialien und -technologien sowie Sicherheits- und Produktivitätslösungen. Das Segment Luft- und Raumfahrt bietet Flugzeugtriebwerke, integrierte Avionik, System- und Servicelösungen und damit verbundene Produkte und Dienstleistungen für Flugzeughersteller, Turbolader zur Verbesserung der Leistung und Effizienz von Personen- und Nutzfahrzeugen sowie Ersatzteile, Reparatur-, Überholungs- und Wartungsdienste wie Hilfsturbinen, Antriebsmotoren und Umweltkontrollsysteme, drahtlose Konnektivitätsdienste, elektrische Antriebssysteme, Motorsteuerung, Flugsicherheit, Kommunikation, Navigationshardware und -software, Radar- und Überwachungssysteme, Flugzeugbeleuchtung, Management- und technische Dienste, fortgeschrittene Systeme und Instrumente, Satelliten- und Raumfahrtkomponenten, Flugzeugräder und -bremsen, Reparatur- und Überholungsdienste, Turbolader und thermische Systeme. Das Segment Haus- und Gebäudetechnik bietet Produkte, Software, Lösungen und Technologien, die Hausbesitzern helfen, in Verbindung zu bleiben und ihren Komfort, ihre Sicherheit und ihren Energieverbrauch zu kontrollieren, wie z.B. Steuerungen und Anzeigen für Heizung, Kühlung, Raumluftqualität, Belüftung, Befeuchtungsverbrennung, Beleuchtung und Hausautomatisierung; fortschrittliche Softwareanwendungen für die Gebäudesteuerung und -optimierung; Sensoren, Schalter, Steuersysteme und Instrumente für die Messung von Druck, Luftstrom, Temperatur und elektrischem Strom; Produkte, Dienstleistungen und Lösungen für die Messung, Regelung, Steuerung und Messung von Gasen und Elektrizität; Mess- und Kommunikationssysteme für Wasserversorgungsunternehmen und die Industrie; Zugangskontrolle, Videoüberwachung, Feuerwehrprodukte, Patientenfernüberwachungssysteme sowie Installation, Wartung und Aufrüstung von Systemen. Das Segment Performance Materials and Technologies entwickelt und produziert Materialien, Prozesstechnologien und Automatisierungslösungen. Es bietet Prozesslösungen in den Bereichen Automatisierungssteuerung, Instrumentierung, fortschrittliche Software und damit verbundene Dienstleistungen für die Öl- und Gas-, Raffinerie-, Zellstoff- und Papierindustrie, industrielle Stromerzeugung, Chemie und Petrochemie, Biokraftstoffe, Biowissenschaften sowie die Metall-, Mineralien- und Bergbauindustrie. Das Segment Sicherheits- und Produktivitätslösungen bietet Produkte, Software und damit verbundene Lösungen, die persönliche Schutzausrüstung und Schuhe für Arbeit, Spiel und Outdoor-Aktivitäten umfassen. Darüber hinaus bietet es Gasdetektionstechnologie, mobile Geräte und Software für die Datenverarbeitung, Datenerfassung und den Thermodruck, Geräte, Software und Lösungen für die Lieferketten- und Lagerautomatisierung, kundenspezifische Sensoren, Schalter und Steuerungen für Sensor- und Produktivitätslösungen sowie softwarebasierte Produktivitätslösungen für das Daten- und Anlagenmanagement. Das Unternehmen wurde 1885 von Albert M. Butz gegründet und hat seinen Hauptsitz in Charlotte, NC.
aktien.guide Basis
| Hauptsitz | USA |
| CEO | Mr. Kapur |
| Mitarbeiter | 101.000 |
| Gegründet | 1906 |
| Webseite | www.honeywell.com |


