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Good morning, and welcome to Elliptic Labs Q1 Results Call. My name is Ola Sandstad, the CEO; and together with Mathias Norderud, our CFO, I'll present the results for the first quarter. We'll walk through the developments during the quarter, which for those who have followed us over time, have largely been shaped by the strategic review we conducted and presented earlier this year. We'll recap the changes we communicated at that time, the measures we've implemented and how we have executed on our strategy.

In the second part of the presentation, Mathias will take you through the financial results. Along the way, we will also discuss how the current transition phase is beginning to materialize operationally. As usual, we'll conclude the presentation with a Q&A session. Then let's look at the key highlights from the quarter.

We've implemented targeted cost measures according to plan, including organizational changes, resulting in a leaner cost structure. We also successfully completed a private placement, leaving us fully funded and financially well positioned to deliver on our strategic priorities. We remain focused on operational execution in laptop and smartphone markets, building on the strong foundation we have established in these segments. Laptop shipment growth momentum stands out as a key highlight this quarter.

Strategically, we are working to productize our platform to enable frictionless development and deployment of AI on embedded devices. During the quarter, we saw encouraging validation of this direction. Lastly, we have seen early but positive traction in strategic initiatives within adjacent verticals, including smart TVs, smart glasses and other wearables. These opportunities build on our existing technology platform and partner footprint, allowing us to selectively expand into adjacent device categories.

Capturing the opportunities created by our renewed strategic direction requires the right organization, leadership and operational focus. During the first quarter, we implemented important organizational changes to better align the company with our long-term growth ambitions.

This included restructuring larger parts of the organization to increase focus, accountability and execution in line with our strategy. As part of this, I have strengthened the leadership team through the appointment of Tobias Boren as Chief Technology Officer; Oystein Grimstad as Chief Product Officer; and Brian Daly as Chief Commercial Officer. These promotions reflect my strong focus on empowerment, clear accountability and execution as we accelerate product development, operational excellence and expansion into new growth areas. In February, we presented the outcome of the strategic review initiated in Q3, including targeted cost measures and a sharper commercial focus. While continuing to build on our strong position in laptop and smartphones, we're also leveraging our platform and AI capabilities to expand into new verticals.

Turning to the key financial highlights for the first quarter. Total revenue came in at NOK 17 million. Revenue development during the quarter was impacted by milestone recognition and lower incremental volume revenue as a larger share of shipment volumes remain within commitment agreements. In the laptop segment, we saw a particularly strong momentum with quarterly laptop shipments increasing by 41% year-over-year.

This reflects continued adoption of our technology and a broader product rollout by our customers. We also saw a solid number of model launches featuring Elliptic Labs technology across both smartphone and laptops. As of the end of April, the combined number of launch models increased 23% year-over-year. The continued model expansion across both premium and high-volume devices reflects the strength of our technology and platform capabilities. During the quarter, we also implemented cost measures, resulting in an approximately 15% reduction in the operating cost base. Elliptic Labs has been present in the market for more than a decade, during which we built a strong foundation through our technology, broad customer adoption and deep ecosystem integration. At the core of this foundation is our proprietary tech stack, strengthened by patents.

During this quarter, five new patents were granted, further strengthening our IP position. Our close collaboration with ecosystem and hardware partners have been critical in scaling our technology across global device platform. This integration work combined with strong relations across the value chain, position us well both within our existing market and as we expand into new adjacent verticals.

During the quarter, we saw -- we continue to see strong operational momentum in our established laptop business, delivering 41% year-over-year growth in laptop shipments in Q1. This reflects continued customer rollouts and increasing adoption of our technology across existing programs. In smartphones, shipments were broadly in line with Q1 last year. The smartphone segment continues to be impacted by memory and cost constraints, which are affecting OEM model planning cycles. At the same time, our diversified smartphone customer portfolio helped maintain stable shipments activity across the segments. The continued expansion across both premium and high-volume devices reflects the strength of our technology and platform capabilities. Q1 marked an all-time high in quarterly model launches for Elliptic Labs with 17 laptop models and 22 smartphone models introduced during the quarter.

Notably, four of the Lenovo IdeaPad models are among the first laptops in the market to ship on Intel's newly released Series 3 processors, highlighting Elliptic Labs' continued alignment with leading ecosystem players and next-generation platforms. We also saw adoption of more advanced feature operations within laptops. In March alone, six out of nine laptop launches included dual sensor configurations combining AI Virtual Human Presence Sensor and AI Virtual Tap Sensor. This continued expansion across devices and feature sets creates a solid foundation for the future shipment momentum and revenue growth.

As part of the outcome of our strategic review, we outlined the market opportunity emerging within Edge AI. We see how Edge AI development for embedded and edge devices remains highly fragmented and resource-intensive, creating long development cycles, difficult deployment process and slow iteration across device platforms. We believe this creates a significant structural opportunity for Elliptic Labs. Our software-based platform and embedded AI capabilities are designed to address key bottlenecks related to scalability, deployment efficiency, time to market and cost. So far this year, validation is progressing with potential partners with ongoing demonstrations on partner hardware and active dialogue across prospective customers and chipset vendors.

The ongoing validation keeps the first commercial contract to be within reach during the second half of this year. Our ongoing discussions with partners continue to reinforce our view that software-defined sensing and contextual intelligence will become increasingly important across connected devices, validating both the relevance of our platform and the long-term growth opportunity ahead. Across our strategic initiatives within adjacent verticals, particularly smart glasses, smart TVs and smart watches, we saw early but encouraging traction during this quarter. These opportunities build on our existing technology platform and partner footprint. By leveraging hardware already present in these devices, we can enable new contextual and privacy aware AI features without requiring additional hardware sensors. During the quarter, we took several steps that may lead to tangible commercial progress. Let me highlight a few examples.

Within smart glasses, we are engaged in active presales dialogues with Chinese smart glasses companies that are among the most advanced players in the consumer segments. Within smart TVs, we are moving from lab development into evaluation in customer environments, representing an important step towards commercial validation. And in smart watches, we are exploring AI-enabled features by leveraging existing ecosystem integration and collaboration within chipset vendors. Focusing more closely on smart glasses, market research projects the global smart glasses market to reach over 100 million annual shipments and $40 billion in market value by 2030.

We see a large and fast-moving opportunity where Elliptic Labs is naturally well positioned. The market is evolving across multiple categories from AI-enabled smart glasses to more advanced video capable glasses, all requiring contextual intelligence, lower power consumption and seamless user interaction. This aligns closely with the strength of Elliptic Labs platform. By leveraging our -- or replacing actually existing hardware in the devices, we can enable additional functionality while reducing bill of material, improving user experience and supporting privacy-first on-device AI. Combined with our proven ability to scale technology across adjacent consumer device categories, we see strong potential to capture market share as adoption accelerates.

And with that, I will hand it over to Mathias for a closer look at the financials. Over to you, Mathias.

Thank you, Ola, and good morning, everyone. Let's dive into the Q1 financial results. Revenue in Q1 2026 came in below the recent quarterly run rate, primarily reflecting the timing of renewal of a larger smartphone agreement being pushed out and lower incremental volume revenue contribution compared to the corresponding quarter last year. At the same time, laptop revenue increased year-over-year, primarily driven by milestone revenue related to the new laptop agreement signed with an existing customer during this quarter. Laptop shipment activity remained solid during the quarter with volumes increasing 41% year-over-year.

Despite this, a larger share of shipment volumes remained within minimum commitment thresholds compared to the same period last year, limiting incremental volume revenue contribution even as shipments continued to grow. Turning to the P&L. Revenues from contracts with customers came in at NOK 16.9 million, down 37% year-over-year, reflecting the revenue dynamics discussed on the previous slide. Employee benefit expenses increased to NOK 23.6 million from NOK 22 million in Q1 last year, primarily reflecting approximately NOK 4.5 million in one-off restructuring and severance-related costs recognized during the quarter.

As a result, EBITDA for the quarter was negative NOK 12.5 million compared to negative NOK 1.6 million in the corresponding quarter last year. Net financial items were negative NOK 3.5 million in the quarter, primarily driven by unrealized foreign exchange effects on trade receivables and other balance sheet items. Going forward, we expect to benefit from a leaner and more scalable operating cost base with a full cash effect from the implemented cost measures expected from the second half of 2026.

Looking at cash. Cash flow from operating activities was negative NOK 17.6 million in Q1, impacted by current profitability levels as well as restructuring-related cash effects. Cash from investing activities was negative NOK 4.8 million, primarily reflecting continued capitalized development investments related to the company's core AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform as well as ongoing R&D investments within new strategic initiatives and adjacent verticals. The cost reduction measures implemented in Q1 are expected to improve the company's cash flow profile over time, with the full cash effect of this initiative expected from the second half of 2026.

During the quarter, we completed a NOK 60 million rights issue, strengthening both our liquidity position and financial flexibility going forward. Overall, we remain focused on improving operational efficiency, maintaining capital discipline and operating with a leaner and more scalable cost base following the restructuring measures. Moving to trade receivables, where we ended the quarter at NOK 82 million compared to NOK 81 million at the year-end 2025, with no major structural changes during the quarter. Trade receivables continue to be primarily influenced by contract-specific payment terms and IFRS 15 revenue timing effects. As a result, quarterly fluctuations should be expected depending on the mix between milestone revenues, shipment-linked revenues and underlying contract structures.

Days sales outstanding came in at 326 days in Q1 compared to 304 days in Q4 2025. We have not seen any material changes in underlying customer payment behavior or customer quality, and we remain focused on receivables and cash collection as part of our working capital management efforts. Turning to the balance sheet. The most significant development during the quarter was the completed rights issue, which strengthened our cash position and overall equity base.

The healthy balance sheet supports our ongoing operations, customer commitments and continued strategic execution. Current assets remain primarily driven by cash balances and trade receivables, while receivables continue to reflect timing effects related to IFRS 15 revenue recognition and contract structures. On the liability side, we have no financial debt exposure, and our equity ratio supports operational and commercial flexibility going forward. Let me turn to revenue dynamics and ambitions going forward. As we have seen, revenue growth in the quarter does not fully reflect the growth in shipments volumes. This is primarily a near-term dynamic that we expect to gradually improve through 2026 and into 2027. The reason relates to the milestone heavy contract structures established in the previous years, which we have described earlier.

Looking specifically at 2026, incremental volume-based revenue is expected to end below 2025 levels. This is driven by a combination of the previously mentioned contract structures together with shipment volumes on certain models launched during 2025, developing somewhat below initial expectations year-to-date, thereby delaying the timing of incremental revenue contributions. That said, we anticipate higher incremental volume revenue in the second half of 2026 compared to the first half.

Looking further ahead into 2027, we expect revenue growth to be supported by continued growth in shipment volumes, while incremental volume-based revenues are expected to become a larger contributor over time as shipments increasingly exceed minimum commitment thresholds. In addition, we expect strategic initiatives within Edge AI and adjacent verticals to begin contributing to revenue from 2027 onwards. Overall, these developments support our expectation of improving revenue growth dynamics over time.

With that, I will hand it back to Ola for the outlook and concluding remarks.

Thank you, Mathias. To summarize, Q1 was a quarter of solid operational progress across our strategic priorities. We continue to grow our footprint in both laptops and smartphones, saw encouraging validation within Edge AI and achieved positive early traction in adjacent verticals. At the same time, we implemented targeted cost measures and successfully completed the rights issue, resulting in a leaner organization and a strengthened balance sheet. Overall, we believe Elliptic Labs is well positioned to execute on our business plan and capture the opportunities ahead. Turning to the outlook. 2026 remains a transition year for Elliptic Labs with a strong focus on execution across both our established business and new strategic initiatives. We will continue to maintain cost discipline and reiterate our target of reducing the annualized operating cost base by approximately 15% with the full cash effect expected from the second half of 2026. Within smartphones and laptops, we expect continued momentum driven by new launches and increasing shipment volumes.

While revenue development in the first half is impacted by contract phasing and conversion timing, we expect gradual improvement through the second half of the year. At the same time, we continue to make progress within Edge AI and adjacent verticals with validation activities and customer dialogues progressing according to plan. Our ambition is to reach initial commercial execution during the second half of '26 with revenue contributions expected from '27.

With that, I would like to thank you for joining today's presentation. We will now take a short moment before moving into the Q&A session, and we look forward to taking your questions.

So then we're ready for the Q&A session after this quarterly report. We received a bunch of questions. We're looking through them a bit now, trying to organize and structure them a bit.

So one of the first questions is, so your headline today is that you're growing from a strengthened position. yet your revenue is down almost 40% year-over-year. To what extent are you actually growing?

So what I'd like to touch upon that is basically looking at the shipment numbers, as you saw in the earlier graphs, the underlying shipments are indeed growing. We've launched all-time high number of models during the quarter. Our shipment numbers are at an all-time high. And basically, that's the underlying factor in our business model. shipments drive our revenue. So how do I then explain the 40%, almost 40%. Well, basically, the contract structures that we have, as we've also gone through several times before and also this presentation is based on the milestone revenue where we have a minimum commitment from the customer. This is something we do to make sure that we have visibility on our business going into the next -- the couple of next years.

What we need to do based on that is that we need to recognize that revenue at the point of contract signing because we deliver the value to the customer during that period. And then Mathias you can touch a bit on that later, how the accounting rules kicks in for us then to do the revenue recognition early. So even though we're shipping now, unless we've passed the threshold of the minimum commitment, you're not seeing the incremental volume revenue. However, the underlying shipment is there and just a matter of time then before we break through that threshold. I see we also have another follow-up question on that, which is kind of the same, which you can take current receivables in Q1 versus the revenue.

Yes. So we received a couple of questions on the revenue side and also on the trade receivables. that's good questions. And you touched upon some of the details already. So I'm just going to elaborate on some of them. So we are following the accounting rules of IFRS 15. And as Ola mentioned, there's some milestone revenue that we initially recognize in our books, depending on contract signing and delivery of the initial software. And then we have revenue recognized when those thresholds in those contracts are reached, right? So typically, for Q1 now, we see that there are some active contracts with a lot of volumes that do not bring in that much revenue this quarter, and that's basically the dynamics that you can see in our P&L at this point. But we -- as we said in this presentation today, we anticipate that this will become better going forward, especially from the second half of the year and into '27 as well. So.

Good. Let's scroll down further. Some of the -- so we have a question here. The private placement in March strengthened the balance sheet. How do you plan to use that capital? And how are you thinking about the cost base from here?

So as we presented, Elliptic Labs is currently in a transition year, where there is mainly two tracks we're following. And the capital that we raised to strengthen the balance sheet is indeed to support those and drive those. So it is, of course, to continue to strengthen our existing business within smartphones and laptops. That means delivering the products that we already have and have successfully deployed in millions and millions into the market for several years.

That's absolutely a key -- a core component of our business going forward. And what's happening there is that we are in the dialogue with the customers. We're sitting by the table specifically of the [ Novo ] and having discussions about the innovative features that they want to focus on moving forward and where we bring value. So that's a key factor still in our operations, building with more features and taking our AI capabilities to the next step. It's also important to mention that our existing customers are also going into adjacent, let's say, verticals or feature set or ecosystem thinking, which broadens them from a one type of a device manufacturer to something wider. So there's some interesting dynamics within our existing customer base as well.

So that's the main track together with the smartphone where we're doing some of the same. We're seeing that primarily the laptop type of customer who is extending into smartphones more than smartphone vendors and extending into laptop or other devices. But there is a mix. The smartphone vendors, they're moving into smart glasses, for instance. So that's an interesting development where we already have our strong footprint. In addition to that, that's the one track. In addition to that, we are following up and trying now new initiatives where we've seen a great potential for our technology and our company, both with our current partners, our relationships, our deep integration into the ecosystem, where we're specifically going after smart glasses, smart TVs and smart watches. And all of them fit perfectly handling glove with the Elliptic Labs technology. The thing that we've been doing for the last 10 years, basically using our capability to take kind of any signal and make an assessment of it, what's happening around the device.

So bringing that contextual intelligence. which for one device can be used for how we interact with it. For another device, it can be used to understand more about what's happening in the room or around in the proximity of the device and then acting based on that with some type of feature. We also do have a question on Edge AI. Maybe you want to read that up. I think it was further down.

Please elaborate on what Edge AI is.

Yes. So it's a fairly broad term. Focus of Elliptic Labs within that Edge AI space is taking kind of the underlying platform that we've developed over these years and bringing that into that space without necessarily pitching a specific feature. So meaning that it's not about us selling presence sensing or proximity sensing or tap detection, these type of things into the environment, but it's us bringing the platform that's been used to bring those features to the market already to other customers and partners so that they themselves can have a speedy AI development, going from lab to production in a very short amount of time. And this is not about us Elliptic Labs cannibalizing our own business. This is basically extending -- extracting the value of all that has been built in this company and into that market.

So what's that market? It's basically any -- a lot of -- basically, it's any type of device that has a need to do on-device processing of some information quickly locally. So not going to the cloud to get AI processing of the signals or what's happening, but actually doing it on device, responding within milliseconds, not seconds. And to do that, you need to have really efficient implementation of AI. The models need to be really snappy and actually implementing that is not straightforward. And that's what we're trying now to bring to the market. We're getting good reaction from the customers and the partners that we're talking about that there's a need for this. It's actually a quote from one of our customers, there's a really need for this. And through that, we plan to go into a wider market than currently smartphones and laptops. Whether that's health or defense or drones or whatever type of device, the future will show us, but it's a really interesting opportunity within that space.

Yes. We also received some questions regarding the cost base going forward. Specifically, we had one question which stated, does renewed cost structure mean that we can expect to see total quarterly OpEx of less than NOK 25 million?

I'll answer that myself. So we don't guide specifically on each quarter in terms of OpEx. But what I can say and what we have already put in our outlook as well is that we initiated this cost cut program in Q1. And the cost base is anticipated to be reduced by 15% on an annualized basis going forward compared to the cost base or benchmark from Q3 last year, 12 months. So we anticipate those kind of levels on average, but we do not specifically guide on each quarter because there's fluctuations in between quarters, right? So -- but yes, the cost base is going down. That's the message.

Good. We do have some questions also more specifically on laptop, knowing the fact that currently, we're in the market with Lenovo.

So I'd like to comment on that. So, what we are in the market with Lenovo, and we're seeing a great increase in the shipment numbers. For those of you who follow our customers directly, you'll see that the market share of Lenovo is bigger than ever, and they have great success with their current laptop lineup and other PC lineup.

So if there was one laptop customer to deliver to and have as a customer, I would definitely choose Lenovo and hope luckily, that's the position that we have. On top of that, we are also working with other customers or pitching them and then looking at what they want to achieve, what type of strategy they have for the devices going forward. whether that's doing something beyond human presence detection or TAP, whether that's mixing some of our existing products into a new user interface, whether that's -- there's a lot of new form factors also in this space and not a lot of new types of using the devices, where suddenly a feature that has not had focus maybe two months or two years ago, suddenly becomes really interesting.

So there are discussions and there are activities related to that. We're not a Lenovo only company on the laptop side. But of course, we don't announce or give information about these type of things until it's actually signed and sealed and ready to be delivered. So the news will come through a potential stock exchange notice. if something happens on that. Have you seen any other questions?

We received some questions regarding the cash position and the cash situation going forward.

So I can comment on that as well. So what we've done, as I already mentioned, we've done the cost cut program, and that's reducing the cash burn significantly going forward. And we're also seeing good underlying volumes, as I already stated, and we anticipate that those will grow, especially in the laptop segment going forward as well. And with those numbers together, we anticipate that the cash position is better going forward, but we're not guiding specifically on when we're going positive in terms of cash. So we'll have to get back to that in the future.

I see we have a question here. Please quantify shipments of smartphone and mobile phones.

So we're not in a position to reveal the numbers, the shipment numbers of our customers and take the laptop example, if we were to reveal that, we're basically giving you the Lenovo numbers. So we're not allowed to do that. We have provided in the presentations an indexed graph that shows the development, which is growing. But other than that, we can't give you more specific numbers.

There's also questions on -- a question on contract structures, whether they're different now compared to previously. And maybe you can say a bit about how the people with these questions what they should expect from, let's say, our new initiatives, thinking about IFRS 15, et cetera, how will we do revenue recognition on potential new contracts within new adjacent verticals?

I would say we haven't signed any contracts yet. So it's too early to basically comment on how it will impact the revenue structure in the future. But what we have said is that for '26, we don't anticipate that the new contracts from new customers and new adjacent verticals will impact the top line.

Significantly.

Significantly, right. So that's what I can say at this point. So we'll have to get back to that question when we have specific contracts to discuss, I guess.

Good.

I think we cover most of the questions that we've received. We received a lot of questions this time, but I think we'll come through them anyway. Most of them at least. Yes.

Perfect. Good. Then we thank you for joining us this Thursday morning. I look forward to bringing you more information and updates also between the quarterly presentations on the development of Elliptic Labs and our new market focus. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Welcome to Elliptic Labs Fourth Quarter 2025 Results Presentation. My name is Ola Sandstad, Interim CEO of Elliptic Labs. And with me is Mathias Norderud, our Interim CFO. After taking on the role as CEO last November, I have initiated a series of initiatives to further develop our company from the strong position we already had. It's been a busy few months, and we look forward to share with you the results of the fourth quarter and the outcome of our strategic review, including some color on the road ahead.

Let's jump in. Starting off with the highlights and outlook. Revenue for the full year 2025 ended at NOK 102.7 million, down from the previous year and also lower than we indicated on the Q3 presentation. The main reason for this is a revision of milestone revenues that were recognized in Q3, a decision that was made following the audit process of the 2025 financial statements and made us restate our Q3 2025 revenue accordingly. The milestone revenues for the laptop contracts are now being evenly distributed between 2025, '26 and '27, starting with NOK 16 million in Q4 and then approximately equal amounts in the third or fourth quarter of '26 and '27. This does not affect the execution of the contracts or the cash flows. The audit process has also led to removal of deferred tax assets from the balance sheet, which Mathias will come back to. Revenue for the fourth quarter ended at NOK 42 million with EBITDA at NOK 1.4 million in a quarter with high one-off costs, which Mathias will also detail further.

Looking at our underlying portfolio, we continue to see positive momentum with both laptop and smartphone verticals demonstrating positive shipment volumes and entering of new contracts. Our focus forward is clear, leveraging our existing portfolio and broadening our scope to enable and secure profitable growth. Our announced strategic review concluded on a few takeaways to that end. We will continue to drive growth in laptops and smartphones. We have implemented targeted cost measures and resource allocation to further improve profitability. We have set in motion a plan to expand into new verticals, and we are working to productize parts of our platform to empower the landscape of embedded devices. I look forward to providing you with more insight about this later in the presentation.

Moving to the volumes of sensors shipped across our portfolio. We're seeing a positive and increasing trend for both laptops and smartphones. This is a key indicator of performance as our business is ultimately linked to the shipment numbers from our customer portfolio. The figures are indexed to Q3 '23, a 2-year horizon since we started reporting on these metrics last quarter. Compared to Q4 last year, ship volumes ended with just under 40% increase for laptops and a clearly rising trend. The smartphone volumes were approximately on par with the same quarter last year, but aggregated growth was about 25% for '25 compared to '24. For those who follow us closely, you'll note that the smartphone volumes have changed since the presentation last quarter. This is because we have now also included shipments from fixed price contracts. These contracts stipulate volumes for the full year, and we have, therefore, distributed annual shipment figures across quarters based on historical seasonality patterns to give a better view of our full smartphone portfolio.

Another important indicator for our business is the number of models launched with Elliptic Labs AI virtual smart sensors. This chart shows the cumulative number of smartphone and laptop models brought to the market with our technology since 2016. What stands out is the acceleration over the past few years. In 2025, 25 laptop models were launched containing a total of 34 of our AI virtual smart sensors compared to 15 models with 16 sensors in 2024. To date, this totals 58 laptop models. We have also signed a new contract with a current laptop customer this month for a minimum of 11 upcoming models in the consumer market scheduled to begin shipping in 2027. For smartphones, 65 models and sensors were launched in 2025 with another 5 models launched so far in 2026, totaling 232 models in aggregate to date.

Our ability to deploy our technology stems from a position as a trusted partner to globally leading technology players. We are fully embedded with leading global OEMs, ODMs and chipset partners, positioning Elliptic Labs at the center of the device ecosystem. Our technology is commercially deployed and proved at scale with repeated launches and expansions validating performance and relevance. Deep integration into customer software stacks and chipset platforms lowers deployment barriers and strengthens long-term road map alignment. In sum, this position is a strong enabler of continued deployment growth in laptops and smartphones as well as our ability to branch into new verticals and productize our platform to empower edge AI on embedded devices.

As already mentioned, our smartphone position has been built as a trusted partner to leading global OEMs, driving sensor deployment and shipments to the market. This has led to smartphone revenues growing meaningfully over the previous years, reaching NOK 78 million in 2024 and NOK 60 million in '25. 2024 was a very strong revenue year in the smartphone vertical with high launch pace and high milestone revenue levels with a mix of existing and new contracts falling into the financial year of 2024. The portfolio growth is what provided the foundation for the strong shipment volumes seen in 2025. For the contracts announced in 2025, milestone revenues were comparably lower than in '24, partly due to timing of contracts as well as lower minimum committed volumes across models.

Looking at the laptop vertical, I'd like to put our progress with our current customer into perspective. We are growing with the customer. Being the largest laptop OEM in the world, they've grown a number of units shipped by 20% over the last 2 years to 71 million units in 2025. During the same period, our deployment share has risen from 4% in '23 to 9% in 2025. And the share is set to grow further from on launch models under contract. This shows their commitment to our technology. There's undoubtedly a clear potential for further growth within the customer as a meaningful portion of the portfolio remains untapped, and we continue to work closely with the customer to expand our footprint.

Before we move into the laptop revenues, I want to remind you how we convert our laptop portfolio to revenue and cash. The chart we are looking at shows actual revenue and cash generation for the laptop contract we announced in the third quarter of 2022, which is now end of life. There are normally 3 main stages involved in the process and our communication, contract announcement, market launch and shipments. The latter 2 are sometimes combined, but where shipping represents the start of the cash generation. When the shipping volumes exceeds the minimum committed in the milestone revenue, incremental revenue will be recognized in our books. Incremental volume revenue has previously been referred to as pay-as-you-go revenue, but we are replacing that terminology.

You can see the cash generation reflected in the light gray cumulative cash curve. Cash build steadily as devices ship regardless of whether those units are above or below the minimum commitment. Our sensor launches shipment volumes and revenues have increased significantly over the last years. I would like you to view this development from left to right. Number of sensor launches on model drives the volumes of sensors being shipped to the market as the OEM ramps up its unit sales. It's clear to see that shipments in 2025 are meaningfully higher than in 2024. Of these volumes, only models launched from 2022 to '24 have exceeded minimum commitments, meaning that they have started to generate incremental volume revenues as can be seen in dark green on the chart. These models alone have doubled the incremental revenue from NOK 6 million in '24 to NOK 12 million in 2025 and continue to generate revenue into 2026.

The models launched in 2025 contain 34 sensors have yet to reach minimum committed volumes and can generate incremental revenue later in the model life cycle. This is, of course, also goes for on-launch models from recently signed contracts. With restated laptop contracts from second half of '25, milestone revenues for the full year ended at NOK 29 million, not including the milestone revenue backlog of about NOK 32 million. Going into 2026, the year started on a strong note with an additional contract for minimum 11 models to be shipped in '27, which with attached milestone revenue expected to be recognized in Q1 of 2026.

Let's go deeper into the financial numbers. Mathias, the floor is yours.

Thank you, Ola. As Ola told you, we are reporting revenues from contracts with customers of NOK 101 million for the full year, which is NOK 31 million below 2024. On the other hand, we end the year with an order backlog for the first time of NOK 32 million relating to the contracts that will be recognized in 2026 and 2027. For 2026, we expect NOK 16 out of the total NOK 32 million to be recognized as revenue in the second half of the year. Splitting revenue into verticals, you can see smartphones declining to NOK 60 million from a very strong year in 2024, whereas reported revenue from laptops declined to NOK 41 million. This was partly due to timing of contracts as well as lower minimum committed volumes across models.

Looking closer at the fourth quarter, we had revenues from contracts with customers of NOK 42 million, including NOK 16 million milestone revenue from the 2 major contracts we announced in August. This was down from NOK 47 million in the fourth quarter last year. Operating costs increased by approximately NOK 10 million to NOK 41 million in the quarter. However, all of that increase reflects special items in the quarter, close to NOK 8 million in losses on trade receivables from customer deliveries dating back to 2022 and 2023 and close to NOK 4 million related to management changes in the quarter. Underlying operating costs were hence actually somewhat lower than in the fourth quarter last year. EBITDA ended at a positive NOK 1.4 million despite the high costs in the quarter with an operating loss of NOK 6 million and a loss before tax of NOK 5 million for the quarter.

Then moving toward the bottom of the P&L. We have reassessed the recoverability of our deferred tax assets in accordance with IAS 12 at the end of the year. The viewpoint of IAS 12 is backward-looking and purely based on contracted revenue and not on any potential upsides from expanded deployments or any new revenue not yet contractually secured. On this basis, we have recognized the tax assets in full in the balance sheet, although the underlying tax losses remain available indefinitely and may be recognized later if the criteria are met. This is a noncash accounting adjustment that does not affect our cash position or operational performance. However, it results in a net loss after tax of minus NOK 95.1 million for the fourth quarter and minus NOK 138.2 million for the full year 2025.

So moving on to cash. We had a negative operating cash flow of NOK 3 million in the quarter, mainly due to the losses in the period. Cash flow from investments amounted to another NOK 7 million, mainly related to capitalized development costs and financing added a cash outflow of NOK 2 million. All in all, the cash position declined by close to NOK 12 million in the quarter. Going forward, note that we have implemented cost measures and reductions in development costs in Q1 2026, aimed at lowering employee and other operating expenses by around 15% combined and capitalized development costs down by around 12%, which all other equal, will reduce the cash burn.

Looking deeper into our net working capital and specifically trade receivables. Our receivables are dependent on the contract mix in any given quarter. The majority of trade receivables represents milestone revenues recognized but not yet received as cash. These are billed as volumes are shipped by OEMs to the market. Following the restatement of Q3 revenues, accounts receivables in the third quarter were reduced from NOK 104 million to NOK 70 million, and days sales outstanding increased from 260 days to 314 days. In the fourth quarter, receivables increased by NOK 10.8 million, but days sales outstanding were reduced to 304 days, driven by revenues in the quarter. The incremental volumes revenue previously pay-as-you-go revenue that were recognized in Q4 '25 will be received as cash in Q1 '26.

And ending off before leaving back to Ola, we ended the year with an equity ratio of 86% of a total balance of NOK 190 million after the recognition of deferred tax assets. We have limited liabilities and a cash position of NOK 43 million. With that, I hand over to Ola to guide you on the road ahead. Thank you.

Thank you, Mathias. Now that we have looked at the figures for Q4 and the full year 2025, let's move on to what lies ahead. I'm sure many have been waiting for the outcome of the strategic review announced in conjunction with Q3, and I would like to start off by summarizing the key takeaways. As I said in the introduction, our focus forward is clear, leveraging our existing portfolio and broadening our scope to enable and secure profitable growth. We have implemented targeted cost measures, strengthen operational efficiency and improved resource allocation. We have started the work to expand into new adjacent verticals, leveraging our solidified position in the AI ecosystem. The review reinforces our strategy to scale within smartphones and laptops while increasing multi-sensor penetration. At the same time, we are productizing our platform to empower edge AI on embedded devices, addressing aspects of great importance and value to our future customers.

Let's start off with our strategy within existing verticals, laptops and smartphones. We'll continue to increase value per device through multi-sensor deployments, leveraging our existing platform at a limited incremental cost. Signing new contracts on existing products is a key enabler in ensuring a well-positioned seat at the table when our customers work out the strategy for their upcoming devices. At the same time, we are working to expand our footprint across both existing and new customers, building on our position as a trusted supplier to globally leading OEMs and a strong partner ecosystem we are a part of. This includes working with main chipset partners, but also other component providers part of the device architecture. The growth will be achieved through a combination of deploying proven products to new customers and through development of high-value use cases. There's a vastly growing demand for context aware AI-capable devices, providing tailwinds that support broader and deeper deployment across smartphones, PCs and adjacent categories.

An important growth lever going forward will be to increase the exploitation of our technology and leverage our existing platform and customer relationships to expand into adjacent device categories. Utilizing the same core technology as in laptops and smartphones, we can enable contextual privacy aware intelligence across new form factors, prioritizing adjacent verticals where we have identified clear value propositions. Two such verticals are smart glasses and enablement of targeted content and advertising models for smart TVs, where our technology can drive capabilities such as user intent, contextual intelligence and high-value functionalities.

But we will also think differently about how we commercialize our platform. As part of a new strategic direction, we are in the process of productizing our AI platform to enable frictionless development and deployment of edge AI on embedded devices, a new and potentially high-margin revenue stream. This introduces a new [indiscernible] path beyond sensors, allowing partners to build and scale their own products directly on our platform. The offering will leverage our validated technology and existing partner base while expanding our addressable markets. The outcome and value proposition towards customers and key stakeholders is strong, faster time to market, lowered engineering cost, scalable production AI and empowering every edge device to become AI capable.

It builds on the insight of what challenges Elliptic Labs have met and overcome during the journey of delivering our AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform and seeing how this can be a clear value to other companies trying to enter and succeed in the embedded AI space. It's important to underline that our existing product portfolio consists of several layers of innovation and expertise. This is not a matter of cannibalizing our current offering, but expanding into the endless potential of AI-driven features. To put it in so many words, Elliptic Labs isn't just building AI features, but providing a solution that makes deploying embedded edge AI frictionless.

Enabling edge AI on embedded devices represent a vast and structural opportunity. The global edge AI market is expected to grow more than 10x towards 2034, driven by billions of connected devices and demand for real-time private intelligence. However, development friction remains a key bottleneck with complex handovers between AI and embedded teams slowing deployment and increasing costs. Elliptic Labs is positioned to remove this friction by productizing a proven edge AI platform that moves AI from lab demos into scalable production.

In summary, we are excited about the road ahead and our opportunity to utilize our market-leading technology and position to drive growth in existing and new verticals and rethinking how we can approach and expand the opportunities ahead. Our platform and organization is highly scalable, rigged to deliver profitable growth as we move ahead. With that, we will open the floor to questions from the audience. Thank you.

So then we've gathered the questions from our Q&A platform. trying to structure them a bit here. We have a laptop in front of us that will start taking questions one by one.

So one of the first questions is whether there's a defined time limit which minimum volumes need to be shipped and what happens if they are not?

So during our negotiations with our customers when we define the contracts, we always try to land on a minimum commit that makes sense, both for Elliptic for visibility, but also lies within the forecast of the customer on the safe side. This is, of course, to try to avoid getting in a situation where there is -- you are on the limit and you need to have these tough discussions on whether to push for it or not. So far, this has not been a topic at all for Elliptic Labs. We have always exceeded the minimum commits on all of our contracts. So that's not a topic of concern for us.

Yes. One more question here to you, Ola. Can you present a similar path for smartphones as you have done for laptops?

Yes. So the laptops, they have a, let's say, a yearly cycle and next generation always comes in a yearly cycle. And we do see somewhat of the same for smartphones. However, the smartphones have a much higher frequency. There's more models being shipped or launched throughout the year. So when we write a contract and agreement with a smartphone customer, it's normally for a year, for the next year. And they've done their initial product planning. And I'll touch a bit also on the topic of that product planning, how that process actually is executed.

But when they plan, let's say, in the 5 or 10 models for that year, then they start to execute. From contract signing until the first launch, you could see 3 to 6 months as a typical number. So -- and that's the first model they put to market. And then there are consecutive launches, let's say, every third month or something like that for our customers.

When it comes to some of the financial questions that have arrived, so there's one for you here for you there, Mathias. What drives the relatively large quarterly fluctuations in the net financials?

Yes. So that's a good question. We do have all our revenues in the USD. So basically, depending on the exchange rate between USD and NOK, the financials will fluctuate. So as you know, in 2025, the NOK to USD exchange rate has declined. So that's the reason why we have a downturn there in '25 basically.

Good. Let's scroll a bit further down here. So there's one which is, can you elaborate more on the deal with Intel?

So last year, we announced, we did some PR regarding an agreement with Intel, which is on the strategic partner side of things. So what we'll do moving forward now is try to be even more crisp on what represents a launch, what represents a new commercial contract, what is indeed a more strategic partner agreement, which is key in this market. You could have the best products in the world, but if there's no one backing you in this fairly complex ecosystem, you're not in the best position. So the thing that the Intel deal actually represents is we are working with them. They are backing us.

When we have discussions with the customers, they can easily state that, yes, they've been working with Elliptic Labs. There is a solid relationship underneath it. So we're a trusted partner that can deploy globally in mass market. So it's more on the strategic side. We'll make sure moving forward to be even more crisp on that communication so that you, our stakeholders, understand whether this is a direct commercial agreement or not. But of course, having this type of relationship with Intel or AMD or Realtek or Cirrus or all of these vendors that we work closely with is key for actually being able to deploy our product the way we do. So that's good.

Okay. One more question for you, Ola. Could the tight market increase adoption of your solutions?

I would say, yes. So this is a big topic nowadays, the cost of memory for all types of devices. We are seeing -- and this goes into some of the product planning topics that I touched earlier. We are seeing some delays and some more extensive processes at our customers when it comes to planning for 2026 and the memory situation has indeed been a delaying factor. So take the example of one contract that we normally receive in November, December time frame, did arrive this year in January instead. This was primarily due to that type of factor. They used a bit longer time on their product planning compared to earlier.

When it comes to what that represents for us, is it a threat or is it an opportunity? It's absolutely on the opportunity side when it comes to what we provide as a software company. And we are executing within the already existing hardware, including the memory that they decide to put in. So the incremental cost of our software is not affected by the direct increase on memory prices.

Yes. Good, good. Okay. One more question for you as well. How are you working to convince additional OEMs the need for E-labs technology going forward?

Yes. Of course, it's a mix of pitching our groundbreaking IDs and the things we've been cooking in our lab that we think can make sense for their customers and their value proposition to the markets. But it's also having these close conversations on what their strategy is. So we, as a Norwegian software company, global software company can, of course, and will also pitch IDs to them, but getting into those close conversations where we understand what they want to achieve and how our innovative software can mix into that to actually enable that even further. That's the type of way we are working with our sales teams. So it's both on the high executive level and more -- both from a top-down and from a bottom-up sales approach. Also after having worked over several years now with the main players in these markets. So take the ODMs or take the partners that are part of these devices today, really working through there to make sure that people understand how smooth and beautiful right it is to work with Elliptic labs.

Okay. One more question for you, Ola, as well. Are you expecting a new mobile contract soon? It seems one is missing compared to last year.

Yes. So it goes back to what I just mentioned when it come to planning. So for those of you who have been following Elliptic Labs for some time, there is a cycle to contracts. And whether there is a new contract around the corner is, of course, not something I can state right now. But we are continuously working with our existing and potential new customers on contracts.

Okay. I think that concludes the overall. We just do a final scroll here, whether there's anything more that's not touched.

Covered most of the questions here. Well done.

So thank you for spending time and looking into our presentation for the fourth quarter results. Really looking forward to start sharing also even more updates from our company moving forward. Thank you.

Thank you.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Welcome to Elliptic Labs Third Quarter 2025 Results Presentation. My name is Ola Sandstad, CEO of Elliptic Labs. And with me is Mathias Norderud, our CFO. And it's our pleasure to present the quarterly results for the first time.

With that, let's dive right in. Looking at the highlights from the quarter. We see that revenue from customers increased by 50% year-over-year to NOK 42.3 million. The main driver was milestone revenue from the 2 major laptop contracts we announced in Q3. Around 65% of the minimum commitments under those agreements were recognized in Q3.

Pay-as-you-go revenues were softer. This reflects our contract mix, where most of the units shipping today are still counted toward minimum committed volumes. However, we see high shipment volumes across both smartphones and laptops. And once the minimum commitments have been fulfilled, these volumes will start generating pay-as-you-go revenue.

Moving to profitability. EBITDA came in at NOK 12.7 million, up from NOK 0.5 million last year, reflecting the higher revenue contribution and a relatively stable cost base. Our cash position ended the quarter at NOK 54.8 million, and cash flow was supported by high shipment volumes.

Looking ahead, achieving double-digit revenue growth for the full year will depend on shipment volumes in the fourth quarter and the outcome and timing of ongoing contract discussions.

Finally, we are initiating a broader strategic review of our commercial opportunities and priorities as part of the leadership transition. During this process, we will also reassess our midterm revenue targets, and we look forward to sharing an updated assessment once this work is complete.

Before we move into our own smartphone activity, it's useful to look at the broader market backdrop. On the left, we show the global smartphone shipments over the last 12 months. The market has continued its gradual recovery, with shipments up just over 2% year-on-year. While the growth is modest, it is the continuation of a positive trend we've seen over the past few quarters.

On the right, we've broken out the year-on-year shipment developments for the top 5 OEMs. Within this group, our customer OEMs continue to perform well and combined, recorded a year-on-year volume increase of just above 5%. So overall, the smartphone market is showing steady improvement and the OEMs we work with most closely with are performing well within that environment.

Looking at the volume shipping to the market containing Elliptic Labs AI Virtual Smart Sensors, we also see a clearly positive development. These charts show customer shipments indexed Q3, 2 years ago. So using that baseline, we can clearly see how volumes have developed over time. While quarterly fluctuations are natural, the overall trajectories are steadily moving upward. If we compare Q3 this year with Q3 last year, customer shipments for both laptops and smartphones with our sensors have grown very meaningfully, reflecting that a larger number of models in the market feature our technology.

These shipped volumes are important because they form the basis for future pay-as-you-go revenue, once minimum commitments are fulfilled. And they show that adoption rates continue to build. It's also important to note that several of these laptop models on the left-hand side include 2 products, that is 2 AI Virtual Smart Sensors, which drive up the price point per model.

We've shown versions of this before to try to help you understand the relationship between milestone revenue for minimum committed volume and pay-as-you-go revenue. And now we've also added the cash flow profile.

The chart we're looking at is showing actual revenue and cash generation for the laptop contract we announced in the third quarter of 2022, which is now nearing end of life. What this illustration show is that even with high initial shipment activity, units shipped within the minimum committed volumes do not generate pay-as-you-go revenue.

At the same time, these shipped units were invoiced on a running basis. So you can see this reflected in the light blue cumulative cash curve. Cash build steadily as devices ship regardless of whether those units are above or below the minimum commitment. Applying the key takeaway on this, the majority of the volume shipping in Q3 '25 are still below minimum committed volumes and have therefore, not yet started generating pay-as-you-go revenues.

Another important indicator for our business is the number of models launched with Elliptic Labs AI Virtual Smart Sensors. This chart shows the cumulative number of smartphone and laptop models brought to market with our technology since 2016, stands out is the acceleration over the past few years. So far in 2025, 25 models have launched containing a total of 34 of our AI Virtual Smart Sensors. For comparison, the year -- the last year, we had 15 laptop models with 16 sensors for the full year. So the level of activity in laptop has clearly increased.

On the smartphone side, 58 models have already launched this year. Coincidentally, the same number has accumulated a number of laptops so far. The key takeaway is that every model launch expands our installed base in the market. This growing footprint is a key driver of long-term revenue potential.

Since 2016, a total of 220 smartphone models has launched with Elliptic Labs AI Virtual Smart Sensors, driven by long-term relationships with repeated launches as well as new customers such as TCL, which was recently announced.

The examples on the right illustrate the breadth of devices we support from flagship models to high-volume mid-range devices across global OEMs. Our position in the market -- smartphone market remains strong, because our performance is proven through many generations of devices, existing customers can adopt new models quickly without additional proof-of-concept testing.

Overall, this level of deployment highlights the depth of our footprint in smartphones and the continued trust from the leading OEMs as they roll out their portfolios.

Now I'm pleased to hand the word over to Mathias for some financial perspectives.

Thank you for that, Ola. Good morning. As I step into the CFO role, my focus today is to give you a clear and transparent view of our financial performance this quarter.

Let me start by putting some color on our revenue development. As Ola said, we report revenue of NOK 42.3 million for the third quarter isolated, up 50% from the third quarter last year. The graph on the left-hand side shows the accumulated revenue for the first 9 months of NOK 93 million, up from NOK 84 million in the same period last year.

As we have already touched upon, this reflects a mix of recognized milestone revenues and pay-as-you-go revenues. We only split revenue by verticals on an annual basis. And as you can see on the right-hand side, both smartphones and laptops have grown over the years with the 2024 revenue of NOK 132 million split between close to 60% smartphones and a little over 40% laptops.

This slide looks at our performance on the last 12 months basis. Total revenue for the last 12 months amounted to NOK 142 million, which is also up 50% year-on-year from NOK 95 million in the 12 months leading up to Q3 2024. At the same time, our operating expenses increased only by 8.6% over the same period. This means we have maintained cost control while scaling the business, which supports profitability and gives us operating leverage as volumes build. That continues to be a key focus going forward as well.

So turning to the quarterly P&L. Revenue from contracts with customers came in at NOK 42.3 million, which, as mentioned, represents 50% year-on-year growth. This was mainly driven by milestone revenue from laptop contracts announced in Q3, supported by pay-as-you-go revenue from smartphones and laptops on volumes that exceeded the minimum commitments in those contracts.

Total operating expenses ended at NOK 29.9 million, broadly in line with the third quarter last year. Employee benefits expenses were stable at NOK 23.1 million and other operating expenses were NOK 6.8 million. The increase here is mainly related to a NOK 1.5 million increase in the expected credit loss provision on trade receivables.

EBITDA from the quarter was NOK 12.7 million, up from NOK 0.5 million last year, reflecting both the revenue uplift and stable cost base.

Moving to the cash flow. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of NOK 54.8 million compared to NOK 57 million at the end of Q2. Operating cash flow was positive at NOK 6.5 million, mainly driven by NOK 5.5 million in profit before tax and a positive NOK 5.5 million impact from changes in other current assets and liabilities, including a NOK 4.8 million SkatteFUNN tax credit refund. This again was offset by a NOK 10.7 million increase in receivables related to milestone revenues recognized in this quarter.

Investing cash flow was minus NOK 6.5 million, reflecting stable R&D investments into our AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform. Financing cash flow was minus NOK 2.1 million, reflecting lease repayments and interest payments on those lease liabilities. Note that all current borrowings have now been repaid.

Overall, the cash position was relatively stable through the quarter. And lastly, we continue to remind you that our cash flow is exposed to exchange rate fluctuation.

Okay. Let me spend a moment on receivables because this is an area where our contract structure plays a significant role. Trade receivables increased to NOK 104 million in Q3. The main increase from the previous quarter is latter contracts announced in Q3. When the contract includes milestone revenue, we recognize that committed revenue upfront at the point in time, but the cash is collected gradually as units are shipped. That means receivables naturally increase at the point of contract signature. Because of this, the contract mix in any given quarter impacts our receivables.

As volumes start to ship, and we are seeing strong shipment activity now, those milestone-related receivables are reduced and converted into cash. So the high -- the same high volumes that currently fall within minimum commitments, as Ola described earlier, are also what support cash generation.

You can also see from the graph here the impact of contract mix in our days sales outstanding or DSO. DSO fluctuates from quarter-to-quarter, but this is not a reflection of slower payments or changes in customer behavior. It is simply driven by the timing of contracts. As such, the composition of receivables reflects our contract structure. Majority is represented by milestone revenues. pay-as-you-go revenues recognized in the quarter will be received as cash in Q4. And we also have a smaller share of fixed price contracts, which follow agreed payment schedules.

Finally, let's take a look at the balance sheet. As previously mentioned, cash ended at NOK 54.8 million, slightly down from Q2. Current assets increased by NOK 5.4 million, mainly due to a NOK 10.7 million increase in trade receivables and a NOK 5.3 million decrease in other receivables, which relates to the SkatteFUNN tax credit refund mentioned on the previous slide.

Current liabilities decreased by NOK 3.6 million, mainly from the lower trade payables and lease liabilities. Our equity ratio improved to 92%, up from 91%, reflecting a strong balance sheet.

I now give the word back to you, Ola, for the road ahead and closing remarks.

Thank you, Mathias. Let me turn to the road ahead and outline our priorities for the coming period. Let's move into our outlook. As mentioned, achieving double-digit revenue growth for the full year will depend on shipment volumes in the fourth quarter and the outcome and timing of ongoing contract discussions.

Revenues in Q4 will be driven by 3 elements: milestone revenues from the laptop contracts we announced in Q3; pay-as-you-go revenues; and revenue recognition of anticipated new agreements. Further, I have initiated a strategic review. We will explore, develop and validate our commercial opportunities across new and existing customers. As part of this process, we're also going to reassess our midterm revenue targets.

Our priorities remain on fully monetizing existing contracts, expanding with current customers, launching more models across more verticals and increasing the number of AI Virtual Smart Sensors per device. At the same time, we are exploring new opportunities such as smart glasses, where our platform can add meaningful value.

As we look ahead, it's important to step back and consider the broader opportunity our technology is positioned to address. Our AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform represents a strong value proposition towards a number of use cases. And our focus remains on continuing to execute along the 3 areas where Elliptic Labs already has a strong and proven value.

First, replacing hardware sensors with software, an area where we build a solid commercial footprint through our AI virtual proximity and human presence sensors. This offering continues to be a core driver of adoption because it reduces costs, saves power and simplifies device design. Second, enabling device interoperability. Features like Tap to Connect are successfully deployed in the market, and we see continued interest from OEMs for solutions that strengthen ease of use and help to build a secure device ecosystem.

And third, developing contextual aware AI-driven features. This includes Tap to Transfer and other custom sensor agents that adopt a real-world environment and user behavior. This is an area where we see significant potential, particularly as devices become more intelligent. These 3 verticals form the foundation of the company today, and they will remain our primary areas of execution and growth near term.

At the same time, we continue to innovate and evaluate new opportunities where our platform can add value. One example is smart glasses, where our combination of AI and sensor fusion can bring clear value and enable completely new user experiences. This is still an emerging space, but it's one we're actively exploring. So the opportunity in front of us is broad, but our approach is disciplined, continue delivering in the areas where we are strong today while evaluating new avenues that can expand the reach of our platform over time.

We'll now move over to the Q&A. We'll take a couple of minutes and review the questions, and then we'll kick things off. Thank you.

We're ready, back for some Q&A. So we've received a lot of questions now. We have them in front of us. I will try to walk you through most of them and try to come back in a bit.

Yes. Thank you for all the questions.

Absolutely.

That's great.

We really value the commitment and engagement from our shareholders. And also moving forward, we really want to emphasize the importance of having an open dialogue between us and the markets. So let's start off. Working capital is a topic that is part of the questions. So Mathias.

Yes. We received a question on working capital. It's still 70% of revenues. How will we get that down is one question here?

Yes, that's a good question. Working capital is something that we have very much focused on in the past and also something that we will keep focusing on going forward. As we've touched upon already in this presentation, the contract mix plays a big role in determining the actual size of the account receivables each quarter. But we will focus on trying to build and agree upon good contracts that will help us reducing the working capital over time. And that's something that we will also get more into in our strategic review for the end of the year.

So the -- how the flow is on this is, of course, built up by the contracts, the milestone revenues, the recurring revenues, new projects, redelivery of existing products. So the continuous mix of that is going to develop. And then this topic is something we are indeed talking with our customers about how we structure this, when we do deliveries for the smartphone and the laptop markets. And as pointed out, it's a key topic in our strategic review, which is -- which I have started now.

Let's move on. When it comes to Q4 and quantifying and clarifying what Q4 will involve.

So in terms of splitting what types of revenue is pay-as-you-go, what is milestone, that's something we don't detail in these reports. When it comes to smartphone versus laptop, normally, we have gone through that on a yearly basis, knowing that there are fluctuations through the quarters, and avoiding that the market is reading too much into each quarter, that's something we present on the full year basis. And that's currently the process, and we'll continue doing that.

Yes. I'll give you another question, Ola. On the agreements going forward and contracts. One question here from investor. Since there are no agreements announced over the summer, no other new contracts have been disclosed so far in H2. Can you comment on the current contract pipeline, both for smartphones and laptops?

Okay. It's a good question, and it's a very relevant question. So for those of you who have been following Elliptic Labs for some time now, you kind of learn the rhythm of the smartphone market and the laptop market, how their cycles are. And the only thing I can comment on that is basically that the health and the operation of Elliptic Labs is fully intact when it comes to our relationship to our customers and how we go from contract, into contract renewal. There's nothing really that has changed on that.

And based on that, you could be able to estimate roughly what's ahead. We don't talk about contracts until we actually announce them due to, of course, NDAs and whatnot with our customer base. But looking into Q4, it's a quarter we're now in the midst of and really focused on closing in a nice way as well.

Let's say, so we're looking at a question regarding smartphone model launches. And the question, how this impacts year-on-year revenue growth and that apparently, it appears weaker in '25 versus '24.

And so looking at that, it's important, again, that we went through in the presentation to look at the minimum commitments that we get when we sign contract with customers and the corresponding pay-as-you-go. So the distance between when the pay-as-you-go starts versus the size of the minimum commit is always going to be some variation in that.

The underlying shipping volumes that we see and that we deliver on are increasing as we showed in the presentation. And that's kind of the main thing to focus on. How the underlying business is in terms of our deliveries and our contracts, which involves customers, models and how many products we are delivering to each of those models.

Just to add to that, Ola. So as we also touched upon in the presentation, there will be variations and fluctuations in the royalty revenues from quarter-to-quarter depending on the contract mix and so on. Ola has touched upon already in the presentation. And that's also the reason why we -- some of the reasons why we tend to get back to the allocation or between the verticals at the end of the year because we need to have a bit of a longer view on the figures.

On the quarter-by-quarter is too much noise fluctuation in those numbers, you could say. So it's a better way of tracking and really measuring the performance over time. So we will get back to those figures at the end of the year in Q4.

Good. There's a mix of questions that ties into the calculation of what Q3 contains, and kind of the underlying run rate, et cetera.

I just want to remind people that we are also in a mix of USD versus NOKs. There are timing aspects here. So doing the final math on the final numbers, keep that in mind when you do this, right? Some of these factors are outside our control. But in general, this quarter and the upcoming quarters will carry on roughly with the same type of mix.

I can take this one for you as well. You announced a strategic review of product and customer road maps. What specific areas are under review? And does this process include revisiting the current business model, cost structure or contract terms with key customers?

That's good. So it's a wide question. I think the answer to that could be half an hour in itself. So what's the strategic review? Well, basically, what we are looking at -- have started looking at and we'll continue focusing on for the remainder of this year, at least, is, as pointed out, the products that we sell to the current customers and the business structure.

We touched upon things like working capital. We touched upon things like we're a software company delivering AI virtual smart sensors to, let's say, the hardware business, hardware-driven market, the laptop and the smartphones. So a lot of the things we're deploying today, today follow, let's say, the rules of the cycles of a device that's being manufactured.

Being an innovative smart software company, we really want to try to help our customers move into more of a software thinking in terms of giving their customers an incentive to add more features even after the product has been deployed. That type of discussions are really interesting to have with the customers and also looking at, for instance, ways to get products to market even after it's been shipped.

Take the example of Nespresso when they sold coffee capsules. That was really nothing new, but it was an innovative business model to sell the machine at low cost and then sell the pods at a recurring high volume. So these are the type of things that we also are looking at. It's not just about technology innovation, but really also about business model innovation. So the full team in Elliptic Labs is a part of this.

Strategic review also, of course, means the typical standard account management going through and getting the real numbers out on what we believe in and where we will put our effort moving forward. Continuing a bit on that, I did touch upon in the presentation, for instance, smart glasses. So we are in the market where we are delivering our technology and our features to smartphone vendors.

And if you do your research, you'll see that a lot of these vendors are now stepping in or have already stepped into other verticals or other device categories, smart glasses being one of them. So it's a really exciting position for us, knowing that Elliptic Labs is fully integrated with the likes of Qualcomm, MediaTek, Intel, AMD and NVIDIA, these type of companies that form the basis of the devices that go to market.

And that position, a Norwegian tech company living inside the inner parts of these chipsets is a great position to do even more innovation. And I'm really happy to -- looking into the future on the things we'll talk about on the capabilities in -- with our existing customers, but maybe new products. So let's see.

So going further down the line, we found a question?

Yes, we have more questions regarding the Q4 and the revenue mix. I think we already touched upon that one. So that's okay. I had one question regarding the ESL in the other operating expenses. We did a provision on ESL on trade receivables, and that's only a calculative calculation relating to like IFRS standards that we do. So we need to calculate based on set of inputs and metrics. So it's no contract -- not related to any specific contract. It's only like a calculation and adjustments to the baseline.

Yes. We also have some questions, of course, about the recent changes in the organization, especially on the leadership side.

The thing I want to really focus on there is that the team of Elliptic Labs consists of people in a lot of different time zones. It's a one team effort, even though we have spanned the full -- the global locations. And what we are doing now is continuing delivering as we have been doing up till now.

I've been a part of this company since 2021. So Lars Holmoy, our former CFO, and I started 1 week apart. I'll let you ask him who started first. But we were working together on this journey that we've had now, the growth journey that we had and fully established on the topics of the products, the markets, the commercial aspects, the leadership and the teams, having hired a lot of really skilled people during the last 4 or 5 years as well. So it's a really interesting journey that we're going to continue on.

And the underlying operational business, the activities, they remain fully intact. There are no changes to that whatsoever. And that's what we're going to build on that moving forward. Having also employed people, let's say, 3 years ago that are now -- they came in with a lot of energy and a lot of fresh thinking, and we immediately saw the fruits of that and being able then to take those aspects into products, into the market is something that really makes this job and this position an interesting one and an energizing one.

And in addition to these type of quarterly reports that we, of course, do, we will start looking into doing more market activities. So you also get information between the quarterly reports in such a way that it's -- you're a part of this innovative journey that we're on.

Yes. I think we're -- we covered most of the questions now, actually. There's some questions regarding the share price as well. And of course, we can't comment on that. It's not up to us to comment on that. So we'll leave it at that. Any other questions you would like to raise before we...

No, I think we've more or less covered -- some of them came in...

During the talk.

During the talk as well. And when it comes to what are the biggest obstacles in securing new deliveries and new product launches. I would say that the markets that we operate in have been impacted by different aspects.

You can go all the way back to COVID and how things are changing. We've seen a positive development as we've shown in the smartphone shipment numbers. That's a good thing. It does something with the mindset also of our customers. That also applies to the laptop type of customers, right? Their willingness and their need to do investments in innovation, they're in a critical phase now on that. And that's the type of conversations we have with our customers.

And again, going back to this hardware versus software, getting them on board on the benefit of deploying a software solution, which is much more quicker and more efficient way instead of implementing on the PCB and the hardware design. But more about that later.

Good. We're done? Again, we are doing an assessment, a strategic review. We will come back with, let's say, metrics and things that we want to put in front of you so you're able to follow the development of Elliptic Labs. That's absolutely something we want. We want to be even more transparent in terms of our development, the wins and also the losses so that we get closer and can help each other move this forward to a successful journey also in 2026. Yes. Good. Well, I think we'll leave it at that then.

Perfect.

And thank you so much for all the questions and taking the time to look at our presentation, and we'll see you soon.

Thank you.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. I'm Laila Danielsen, the CEO of Elliptic Labs. And joining me as well today is our CFO, Lars Holmoy. We're excited to share with you Elliptic Lab results for the second quarter of 2025. Let's start off with the highlights. We are proud to share with you the solid commercial progress we have achieved in the first half of 2025 and the milestones we have reached so far this year. Before the summer, we announced a groundbreaking agreement to deliver our AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform directly into an existing laptop customer's proprietary software stack to enable seamless multi-device connectivity across their device portfolio. This agreement marked a solid commitment from a global leading PC laptop player, enabling wider and broader deployment of our technology. As part of the new agreement, certain revenues were pushed from Q2 to Q3 and some into Q4 due to a shift in licensing structure. This is only a onetime effect. The agreement significantly strengthened the outlook long term we have with this partnership.

And while we didn't specify any specific laptop models, it enables a more seamless deployment going forward. In fact, earlier this week and as well as yesterday, we announced 2 new contracts with a customer covering a series of laptop models in the commercial and consumer segment, also including PC accessories. These new contracts give a combined minimum commitment of NOK 55 million, and majority which will be recognized in Q3 in 2025 and contribute towards a significant uptick in the year-on-year growth in the next quarter. This represents our largest revenue contracts to date, and we're excited to share with the continued progress with this customer going forward.

Due to the deferral of income, the revenue from contracts with customer was muted in Q2 and ended just under NOK 25 million. This is, however, just a matter of timing. And with basis from our existing and new contracts makes us confident that we are on track for double-digit revenue growth for the full year 2025.

Okay. So next, our mission stays the same. It is to build the leading AI software platform for all user experience, making every device smarter, interoperable and more human and environmentally friendly. We are building the future of AI sensing, making devices smarter, seamlessly connected and intuitive with advanced AI, sensor fusion. And as we are moving up the software stack, we are not just improving technology, we're redefining how it interacts with the world today. Over 0.5 billion devices are using our AI platform to make them greener, smarter and more user-friendly.

All right. So looking at the smartphone vertical, we are maintaining the strong deployment momentum from the first quarter of the year. We have launched 204 smartphone models to date with 42 smartphone launches announced so far in 2025. 26 of these models were launched during the first 6 months of 2025 and 6 additional models so far in the third quarter. This compares to 66 models for the full year in 2024, and we are well on our way to deliver meaningful growth in deployment. The continued high number of launches demonstrates the strength of our strategic partnerships with leading global OEMs, including Xiaomi, Vivo, Honor and Transsion. To the right of the screen, you can see some examples of the innovative launches made in 2025.

All right. So as explained in the highlights, I want to dive a little bit more into these various contracts. We signed an agreement for a multi-device connectivity solution with the world's largest PC and laptop player just before the summer. So this is Lenovo. And I want to give some color on what this entails. Firstly, the customer previously used a third-party software integration app to deliver interconnectivity solution. The customer now has integrated this functionality directly into their own software stack. So that integration of new model devices and accessory can be deployed with ease across their entire device portfolio. Again, this specific contract did not include any laptop models for future launch, but enables a strong fundament for more seamless deployment going forward. This functionality would not be possible without Elliptic Labs' AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform, the key driver of this new true interoperability connectivity solution between devices.

Our team has worked tirelessly with the customer to deliver this groundbreaking feature, and I am extremely proud of what we have accomplished together. With our technology at the core of their internal connectivity solution, we are confident in the strength of our partnership and the potential for a high pace of device rollouts going forward. So this new interconnectivity setup has cemented our position as an essential technology provider for the laptop customer. Earlier this week, as I mentioned, we signed 2 new multiyear laptop contracts with this laptop customer covering both commercial and consumer laptops as well as PC accessory to be included in both contracts. The contracts contain a mix of AI Virtual Seamless Sensor as well as a second sensor, the AI Virtual Human Presence Sensor. These agreements have a combined minimum commitment of value for approximately NOK 55 million.

The majority of the revenue from these contracts will be mainly recognized in Q3 with some falling into Q4. For those who follow us closely, you will note that we normally don't disclose contract sizes due to confidentiality obligation. In this particular instance, the customer has allowed us to report a minimum commitment due to the change in the license structures and the impact this had on revenue in this Q2 quarter. In other words, just to underscore, we will not be going on reporting minimum commitments amount for contracts in the future as a general statement.

All right. So summing up, we are maintaining significant commercial momentum, both in terms of pace of model launches and new contracts signed. So far in 2025, we have launched on 25 laptop models and 43 smartphone models. Of the top -- of the 25 laptop models, 9 models have been deployed dual sensor configuration, meaning both the AI Virtual Human Presence Sensor and the AI Virtual Seamless Sensor. And we continue to see increased demand for both sensors. As such, we have launched 34 virtual sensor year-to-date across 25 laptop models compared to 16 virtual sensor for the full year in 2024. So the number of sensor is important as we charge a license fee per device we ship to the end customer. And this is also charged per product, so per virtual sensor. With our current launch pace and outlook going forward, we have set a solid foundation for revenue growth for the full year 2025 and onwards.

With that, I will leave the word to Lars to take you through the financials.

Thank you, Laila. Now let's move into the financial review for Q2 2025. As we continue to building a solid foundation for a durable profitable growth, our goal is to ensure sustainable profitability by combining growth in top line revenue with disciplined cost control. I will walk you through the numbers and trend shaping our financial performance this quarter and the broader outlook for Elliptic Labs. So in Q2 2025, revenue from customer came in at NOK 24.6 million, making the first 6 months of the year to just over NOK 51 million. It's down about 9% from the same period of 2024. As Laila mentioned, the decline in the quarter was driven by deferred laptop revenues from the new laptop license structures from Q2 '25 into H2 or second half of '25. We continue to remind you that revenues tend to fluctuate from quarter-to-quarter due to the timing of these revenues or contracts and new product launches and shipments into the market.

With announced laptop contracts containing a minimum commitment of NOK 55 million, majority of which will be recognized in the third quarter, we are already positioned to deliver strong year-on-year growth in the third quarter from these contracts alone. This is before taking the smartphone business and other laptop contracts into the consideration. With that in mind, we are confident in our ability to continue delivering on growth and the company is well positioned to generate meaningful year-on-year growth for the second half of 2025.

Despite the muted revenue in the quarter, we are maintaining a profitable business on a running 12-month basis. Total revenues increased just over 44%, trailing the 12 months to Q2 '25, a period in which total operating expenses only increased by 9.5%. We maintained a positive EBITDA in the second quarter and with a relatively stable cost base, the company is set to generate a solid profitability during the second half of the year. Looking more thoroughly at Q2 '25, we generated revenue from contracted customers of NOK 24.6 million, down 27% from last year. Smartphone contracts are mainly pay-as-you-go above minimum committed volume. With the contribution from other operating income, the quarter ended with a total of revenues of NOK 25 million. Operating costs totaled at NOK 23.9 million, comprised of employee benefit expenses at NOK 18.3 million, up from NOK 17.1 million last year, reflecting an additional 3 FTEs year-on-year. It should be noted that employee expenses are typically lower in the second quarter of the year due to holiday pay adjustments in Norway specifically.

Other operating expenses remained largely stable at NOK 5.6 million, slightly down from NOK 5.7 million in Q2 '24. In sum, EBITDA remained positive at NOK 1.1 million despite the top line affected by revenue deferral. As always, we remain focused on balancing investment in growth with cost management.

Turning to the cash flow. We delivered a negative operating cash flow of NOK 9.3 million in the quarter compared to a positive cash flow of NOK 12.1 million in Q1 '25. Key contributors were a loss of NOK 10.1 million before tax, NOK 2.2 million increase in receivables from new contracts and NOK 8 million decrease in payables, including payout of holiday pay and Board remuneration. In comparison, we generated NOK 18.5 million from outstanding contracts in the first quarter of the year.

Investments remain relatively stable and are primarily reflecting R&D supporting our AI Virtual Smart Sensor platform. The financing cash flow reflected repayment of NOK 1.6 million for lease liability and the final repayment for Innovation Norway of NOK 1 million for short-term debt and NOK 0.4 million of interest payments. All of our revenue is invoiced in USD. So exchange rate fluctuation can affect cash flow. In this quarter, exchange rate had an adverse effect of about NOK 0.5 million.

Our balance sheet remains robust despite a reduced cash position to NOK 57 million at the end of the quarter. As I just mentioned, Other current assets increased by some NOK 5 million due to increased receivables from new contracts, while noncurrent assets remained relatively flat. We continue to work with our customers to better our payment cycles related to the milestone revenue. Liabilities are down in the quarter, mainly from payout of holiday pay, but also the repayment of Innovation Norway. And so other equity ratio is -- our equity ratio is slightly up to 91%. With our current cash position and the outlook from our contract base, we remain well funded to execute on our growth plans with the financial flexibility required to invest in innovation and new customer deployments.

With that, I will hand the final words back to Laila.

Thank you, Lars. All right. So before we round off, I want to remind you of the direction we are working towards as a company. We have spent a decade building a solid platform. We have developed deep expertise in AI, software, operating system, sensor, application, large language model, yes. So basically the whole full software stack. As I've said earlier, we separate our journey into 3 phases, each building on top of the previous phase. We started out our journey in Phase 1, replacing hardware sensors with AI Virtual Smart Sensor and building a foundation with our customers. We continue to do so and to expand our position with our customers. And we're currently in the second phase focusing on device interoperability where we're moving further up the software stack and deliver true device-device interoperability. Going forward, we will continue to work our way into the third phase together with our partners and customers to deliver through contextual intelligence on the edge.

Finally, let's revisit our assumption to drive future success. We are focused on maximizing our contract base, strengthening customer relationships, expanding partnerships and increasing AI Virtual Smart Sensor adoption. Our AI Virtual Smart Sensor technology is rapidly expanding across industry, improving device intelligence and user experience. We are working closely with OEMs to integrate AI Virtual Smart Sensor into more devices, including laptops and smartphone. Our focus is clear: optimize contracts, increase adoption and scale product deployments per device. From our existing contract base and recent announcement, we can say and we can say that we are confident on achieving a double-digit growth rate for 2025.

Thank you. Now we will take a quick break to review the questions, and we'll be right back. Thank you.

[Break]

Welcome back. First, just thank you to the investor gentlemen that sent -- gathered a lot of questions and sent it in beforehand. So I appreciate that. So we'll -- we have lots of questions.

Lots of questions. Jump right in.

We'll jump right in.

Yes.

So I'll just start.

You please start.

Start and then we can start off. Lots of questions around the contracts, that's understandable. Do the new contract from 11th of July replace all existing contracts with the customer, HPD, et cetera, et cetera.

And the answer to that is no. This is a restructuring of the frame agreement. So all contracts will continue as before, and they are not changed. And so all the contracts that are following the announcement of 11th of July for the internal software comes under the new framework. And these contracts actually also follow the same revenue pattern. So basically upfront minimum commit and then sort of pay as you go because it's a minimum. And then when it succeed, we get, of course, we will keep giving more revenue.

So the July, just to sort of shed maybe a little bit more light here on the call because as I mentioned before, when we send out a press release, we have more restriction on what we can share and not share due to the customer. This is obviously, Lenovo that we are talking about. And so the contract that for July 11 was basically us helping them migrating from a third-party software application to their own internal software. So at least we can share that here today, but it's not something we can broadly share in the Business Wire and sort of over OSE.

All right. So shall I...

Just please continue. There's quite a few questions.

Yes. So there was -- with a new contract, 11th of July, will it be rolled out in all new laptops for that customer.

So it's not on every -- we haven't signed, to be clear, the 2 contracts we have signed is.

This week.

This week is the beginning. So that this is not covering the whole portfolio. I can say that at least. So -- but this will -- us helping them to migrate over to the internal, I would say, app system or app ecosystem that they have. And also, this will support -- they're now deciding to also support and want to roll out an accessories. We can't talk about the timing on that, but that's the purpose of the contract. So basically going from an external application to their own internal. So that is the major difference.

Okay. Which quarters will be affected by the new structure?

So the revenue was pushed from Q2 to majority of it in Q3. I think we also addressed this in the presentation, but obviously, these questions came before we presented. So majority will be in Q3 and the remainder in Q4. And the timing of new potential contracts will not be affected at all by the new structure.

So just you want to?

No, I can just add that this was, yes, a onetime thing, as you mentioned, the migration part like and then, of course, contracts coming after. So it is a onetime thing. And new contract will -- potential new contracts will not be affected by this.

Yes. Yes. No. So will the new license structure push the midterm revenue target closer or further in the future?

It would not really have an impact. This was a short-term effect.

Okay. Are you still -- are you in dialogue with other PC OEMs? When will you sign those contracts?

Yes, we are working with other PC OEMs. We cannot comment any further on when contracts and any potential rollout will occur. But of course, as soon as we have any specifics that we're able to share, we will do so.

Yes. So how big do you see the political market risk to and then specifically Chinese customers?

And we addressed this in the report, but we continue to monitor the situation and thus far, so far. We are not directly impacted by it, but of course, we're monitoring it. Yes.

Yes. Okay. So take another one. Do you pursue a long-term partnership with other major chip manufacturers than Intel that was announced in May 2025? And do you see such partnership as critical for Elliptic to gain new customers such as other PC OEMs?

Okay. So Intel is the largest for now.

By far the largest. They are still.

By far the largest that work with the PC OEMs. Also AMD, we work with AMD. We have already also in the past, launched with laptops that are running the AMD platform as well as Qualcomm has a small portion. We work with Qualcomm. Of course, we've been working with them for a decade in the smartphone market, and it's basically the same processor. So we work with them. It's not a problem. It's the same. And I also can bring up NVIDIA. NVIDIA has also -- as public information, they have also been talking about potentially a processor platform for the PC as well. And we talk to them as well. So yes, so we work with the other -- and this is -- you have to sort of work with all the chipset manufacturing to make sure -- and this is also like it's -- let's face it, it's -- the customers are pushing the PC -- I'm sorry, the chipset manufacturer to work with us as well. So this is something we have to do to make sure that we can deliver.

I can ask this now?

Yes.

Is the current cash position sufficient?

Yes, it is.

Okay.

There's a question about expenditures or cost base, and I think I addressed it quite clear in the presentation, but the cost base has stayed relatively flat over the years, past 1 or 2 years, 9.5% growth the last 12 months. So we do not need to add that many people to do the growth we foresee now. We will add -- we have addressed it, I think every quarter, we address it. We will add some people, but not on a high level. And as we sell more licenses, we do not add cost. One license or 100 million licenses, it's the same cost base for us. So it is very scalable in that respect. And that's also why we can keeping the cost base flat.

Yes. I also get a question here about competing technologies. And this is very, very broad. Can you elaborate on competing technologies and companies?

Please do.

Yes. So I'm just going to focus sort of for the interoperability and this device-device connection. So we have -- what we see in the market right now to have a software solution. So just to shed a little bit more light as a reminder and also for people that are new, what we are doing with some of this device-device connection is basically we -- let's say, if you have a Lenovo laptop with a simple tap on the side of the device with either an Apple or an Android phone, you can connect the 2 devices and start moving application pictures, et cetera, between the devices very easily or if you're on a Teams call on the phone and you want to like easily put that over to a laptop, you can do so by just tapping on the side of the display and then move that conversation over.

Also in regards to, for example, if you want to attach any type of accessories, you can just simply tap your headset or your mouse, et cetera, and then you will very seamlessly connect between the devices. So...

Can I just -- just a point on...

I was just going to say that this is -- we are the only one in the market that doing software. We also have a strong patent around that as well.

Yes, that's great. And just because it's on the tail end of another question that we have addressed already. But the move like we did a strategic move now, does it carry any operational risk when we move from the external third-party app to the internal?

It's actually better, I would say, because we get a greater stickiness with the customer when we go in and look at their own technology solution. They will also -- what I sharing too much information. We know also that we are talking to them and other customers about supporting other type of sort of general standard applications out in the market. But all laptop providers have their own sort of internal proprietary software. And to get in the middle of that and get -- and really have a close integration, that creates a very good stickiness because they get very dependent on us for this broader rollout when they're going to deploy this -- their -- I call it, like smart share or an easy way to seamless create device-device interoperability. So this is -- I would say this -- I'm very pleased that they moved away from that third app. I would say that was from Intel, the Unison. I'm very happy that they moved over to their own internal that they did that. So we're happy.

I think we have covered most of the questions. All right.

Yes. Thank you.

So thank you very much, and have a good day.