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Thank you, and good morning, and welcome to the Computershare FY '26 Results Conference Call. Nick Oldfield, our CFO, is with me, along with Michael Brown from our IR team. Our presentation pack was released last night, and I'm going to take you through the highlights, and Nick will take you through the financials in more detail, then we'll get to Q&A.

So Computershare had a good year. Our long-term simplification strategy is really paying dividends. Continuing investments in technologies are helping drive margins and structural growth trends are intact. Above all, our earnings growth remains remarkably consistent and predictable and is set to continue.

But let me start with the results highlights on Slide 2. Management EPS is up 7% at $1.45 per share. And our earnings trajectory accelerated as the year progressed and results came in slightly ahead of the guidance we upgraded in February. Headline revenue is up 3%. But if you exclude the impact of disposals, it was actually up over 5%. Our key businesses are also performing well. Issuer Services revenue was up 4%, Corporate Trust was up 6% and employee share plans was up 10%. Margin income was down 1.6% at $749 million, but that did exceed our expectations and the upgrade in MI guidance we announced in May. And as we've called out before, increased activity drove higher balances, which really muted the impact of several rate cuts in our major markets. EBIT ex MI was up over 8% and EBIT ex MI margins continued to expand, up 70 basis points to 18.2%. And ROIC came in at 36.5%, reflecting our capital-light business model.

Now our balance sheet continues to be a highlight. Leverage came down to 0.1x, and this continues to provide optionality for acquisitions. And we've got a pretty good pipeline, but I will remind you that we will remain very patient and selective. But with our earnings momentum and strong balance sheet, we can step up the dividend again. The final dividend is AUD 0.65 per share, a rise of 35% on last year's final dividend, and that makes $1.20 per share for the full year.

I think reflecting on the past 12 months, I've been particularly impressed by the team's ability to stay focused and execute despite everything going on around the globe. We delivered acquisition synergies ahead of schedule, continue to embrace and work on new technologies and supported many of our clients through a number of complex global transactions. And I think that discipline has been a real strength of the business this year.

Now let's jump to Slide 4, and we'll talk about each of these business lines. Now every business delivered revenue growth. So let's start with Issuer Services. Registered maintenance revenues were up 3% year-on-year. Corporate action volumes were broadly in line with FY '25. But a notable exception to this was really the key U.S. market where FY '26 deal volume was up 3% versus PCP, but activity increased as the year went on. And in fact, in 2H '26, it was up 8% versus PCP. And then pending deal count, that's announced but not closed at 30th of June was actually up 8% on the prior year. And I think that's a good indicator for more activity to come.

The Hong Kong IPO market was also a standout. In FY '26, there were 96% more IPOs, and it was really strong retail participation, which helped drive fees up. So it was not just the number of IPOs. It was really that strong retail appetite for them that drove the increase. Entity Solutions, which we previously referred to as Governance Services, continues its robust growth profile, driven by CoSec services and growth in the number of entities under management. That said, EBIT and margin were down in Issuer Services in FY '26. Now this largely reflects lower margin income as well as continued investment in new technologies and fledgling businesses that we're incubating for future growth.

Moving to our Corporate Trust business. Client activity increased across all major product lines. Structured products, which make up the majority of our book, grew strongly. With more volume, Trust fee revenues were up 9%. Client balances are also increasing with the growing issuance. And it's also pleasing to confirm that the GBP 80 million synergy target set out for the Wells Fargo acquisition has been delivered a year ahead of schedule, helping our EBIT margins in this division expand to over 17%. Corporate Trust remains an attractive market and a priority for capital deployment, and we do see many years of growth runway ahead. Now employee share plans reported another impressive result. Revenues grew by 10% and EBIT increased by 24%. The volume and value of assets under administration continued to climb, helping drive higher transaction fees, which were up over 18%.

Now the business sailed through the volatility observed in equity markets around the world this year, and we saw the benefit of the diversification strength of our client book. Energy & Resources clients, for example, outperformed during the second half. But whilst there has been record trading, we ended the year with AUA up 8% and the number of units up 5%. Now this business has really come a long way after our initial investment in Equatex and the significant and complex project to deploy the technology globally. Looking forward, given the growth in the book and as long as equity markets remain broadly consistent, we do expect trading revenues to be higher again in FY '27. So overall, our key business lines are growing and performing well.

Now on to FY '27 outlook over on Page 5. Looking forward, we expect FY '27 to be another year of earnings growth. The momentum in our business line underpins our positive outlook and our initial guidance for FY '27 management EPS is to grow by around 6% to $1.54 per share. Based on the interest rate curves this week, MI has passed the low point and should be higher in FY '27. Our initial guidance is $770 million for the year. Now as we have always done, we take the exit rate on balances as the basis for guidance in the new year. And I do think that exposed yields should be a little higher in FY '27. As for the guidance, we also have the usual detailed assumptions and disclaimers in the back of the deck just in case we ever need them.

So with that, Nick, over to you to go through the detail.

Thank you, Stuart, and good morning, everyone. So as you've heard, we've had a good FY '26. So let me try and unpack that earnings growth of 7% versus the PCP. I'll start on Slide 7. Firstly, revenue. Excluding MI, revenue was up 4.4%. Adjusting for the in-year disposals of U.K. mortgage servicing and our German Print & Mail business, revenue ex MI was up 7.5%. Total revenue was up 5.2%. This was driven by growth across client fees, which were up 3.8%, largely driven by growth in issuance in Corporate Trust, where fee and money market fund revenues were up 9.4% and in Transactional & Event revenues, which were up 15.4%, reflecting growth in trading activity and plans, both price and volume increases across shareholder paid fees in registry and greater corporate actions activity, especially in the U.S. and in Hong Kong IPOs.

On the cost side, we saw increases over and above expectations. BAU OpEx was up 4.5% for the year and over 6% in the second half due to some one-offs. We also invested an additional $39.7 million in new products, technologies and capabilities. This included around $6 million of annualization of OpEx costs in respect of FY '25 acquisitions. Notwithstanding these higher costs, we were still able to improve operating leverage with the EBIT ex MI margin increasing 70 basis points. So what drove the BAU OpEx increase? Well, first of all, we had general salary increases. We awarded merit rises of 2% in October '25, around $18 million, whilst on costs rose disproportionately by $25 million, largely due to step-ups in U.S. health care and U.K. payroll taxes. These costs will level out in FY '27. There will not be any further step-ups of this nature.

We also saw an 8.7% increase in other direct expenses and a 4.6% increase in computer costs. These increases reflected a combination of BAU third-party vendor inflation and investments in some of our key projects. For example, the integration of our investment -- investor engagement businesses, $5 million, product enhancements in both plans and Corporate Trust, including foundational work for our EMEA business, social contributions for the Deposit Protectio -- service and work to develop our AI investment program.

I expect OpEx inflation to slow to be below 3% in FY '27. EBIT increased 2%, whilst the EBIT margin dropped 40 basis points to 37.2%. This was driven by a 1.6% reduction in MI. I will come to this shortly. Interest expense fell $34 million, driven by lower rates and lower drawn debt levels. The ETR also fell 30 basis points to 24.6%. Whilst pleasing, it was also a little higher than anticipated as we repatriated more funds from Canada, incurring higher levels of withholding tax. NPAT was 6% better than the PCP, while management EPS was $0.10 per share and over 7% ahead of the PCP.

Looking through the EPS lens, buyback accretion contributed $0.02 per share of the increase. Organic business growth and cost out was worth $0.059 per share. Lower interest expense was worth a further $0.059 per share. Margin income declines offset these increases by $0.022 per share. And tax expense was higher due to greater profitability. This impacted by $0.017 per share. All up, this took us to $1.452 per share in management EPS for FY '26. Below-the-line costs were also lower by 34%, slightly better than what I said in February. This is really related to the timing of redundancy expense. We continue to target the elimination of our below-the-line cash expenses by FY '28. In the meantime, we expect below-the-line cash costs will be 50% lower in FY '27 at around $47 million before tax. This is all shown on Slide 10.

Now you might ask, what makes me confident we'll deliver this target? Well, simply, this is about programs of work coming to an end. We have line of sight to the work that needs to be done, what that work involves and what it will cost us. This isn't cost that simply rolls on. It's project management costs, consulting costs, redundancy costs. Once we finish the project, the cost is eliminated.

Let me now touch on margin income, which was 1.6% lower in FY '26. In the context of 3 U.S. rate reductions in the first half, this was a good result. Balances rose 6%, whilst we also increased our recapture rate, our hedge book and hedge yield, all of which helped us limit the yield impact to 19 basis points. You can see this on Slide 8.

In FY '27, we expect to generate around $770 million in MI, an increase of $14 million compared with FY '26. You can see this on Slide 9. This is based on average balances of $32.8 billion, an increase of $800 million or 2.5% on FY '26 and in line with exit balances at the end of June.

Now the sharp eyed amongst you may note that this is actually lower than average 2H FY '26 balances. But this is simply due to us managing some particularly large low-yielding balances in 2H FY '26 that will not repeat. We expect a yield of 2.35% based on the assumption of rate rise in the U.S. in January, 1 rate rise in Canada in March and 2 rate rises in the U.K. in November and March. This is based on curves as at the 10th of August. FY '27 outlook also assumes an increase in the percentage of exposed balances that are hedged from around 50% to 60%. This is at the top of our target range, but reflects a conscious decision to increase hedging based on attractive longer-term rates. The weighted life of the hedge book is broadly unchanged at around 5 years.

Finally, let me turn to the balance sheet and capital management on Slide 11. Cash conversion is broadly flat at 65%, impacted by prepayments of certain long-term technology contracts. I expect this to trend to 70% over the coming years. CapEx fell a little, over $7 million down on the PCP. This is more timing related. I expect it to increase to around $65 million in FY '27 due to planned investments in some of our facilities, our IT infrastructure and AI. Leverage, as you've heard, is now 0.11x. This puts us in a great position, extremely well protected in the event of any potential shocks, extremely well positioned for when our preferred M&A opportunities arise. I now expect us to be close to net cash by the end of the calendar year. We're delighted to increase our final dividend to $0.65 per share, 35% up on last year's final, with the overall FY '26 dividend 29% higher than FY '25. The average payout ratio is now 55%, giving us further room to grow within our target range.

And finally, for those of you who would like to see us use our balance sheet strength to buy back more of our stock, I would remind you that this remains inefficient for us under the currently prohibitive Australian tax legislation. I'll now hand back to Stuart.

Thanks, Nick. So in summary, we had a pretty decent year. Computershare has once again proven to be consistent and predictable. We gave initial guidance last August for management EPS of $1.40 per share, upgraded to $1.44 in February and today delivered $1.45. All our businesses have momentum with growth in clients and fees. And there's definitely a buzz around the group as we work with new tech and also on market structure projects. And we put a lot of time into understanding potential changes to digital market structures, and I'm sure we'll discuss that in the coming days. I do think we're well placed to benefit from these and see new revenue pools opening up for us where we've been restricted or indeed not played in before.

MI is now a tailwind rather than a headwind. And with our technology and AI investments, we're becoming increasingly efficient. As Nick said, our balance sheet provides us with optionality to invest in our businesses, make acquisitions and reward shareholders, and it is satisfying to be able to announce a final dividend up 35%. But as Nick said, there's room to grow. And going forward, we expect our growth track record to continue. We raised our ambitions earlier this year for our EBIT ex MI target to continue to grow beyond 20% as well as long-term ROIC target of 35%. The operating businesses are performing consistently and predictably, which gives me the confidence for the full year and beyond.

So with that, now let's move to questions.

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Nigel Pittaway from Citi.

Just first of all, just within the sort of guidance for next year, the 3.5% projected growth in EBIT ex MI, what would that be if you actually ignored the disposal of U.K. mortgage servicing?

It would be -- so the step-up in margin, Nigel, would be a little bit lower than the 70-odd basis points that we've talked about or the 80 basis points that we've talked about. So if you take out the U.K. mortgage servicing and the German Print & Mail business, EBIT ex MI margins in '26 would be around 18.8%. So the step-up in margin isn't quite as pronounced as it looks on headlines, but there is a particular piece of business that we -- that won't repeat from FY '26 that is impacting those margins.

If I take it -- if I just look at EBIT ex MI growth at a headline level or on a pro forma level, it's going up 7%, so it's twice as much if I take out, but there's just a bit of noise between the margins and the absolute number.

Okay. That makes sense. That seems consistent. Okay. Just next, I mean, you did sort of touch a little bit on this as you went through. But obviously, there has been quite a lot of investment in Corporate Trust such that EBIT ex MI margin in the second half is back down to where it was on 1H '25 despite sort of you enunciating early delivery of the Wells Fargo synergies. So can you just expand a little bit more on precisely what's happening in terms of the investment in that cost line within Corporate Trust?

Yes. So there's 2 pieces, Nigel. I'll let Stuart talk about the investments. But just to deal with the margin in the second half, that was in particularly diluted by some of the one-off costs that we talked about, in particular, staff on-cost U.S. health care. And so the margin in the first half '26 is a better guide of where that sort of the underlying margin really is now in that business. So I'd probably ignore the lower margin in the second half.

Yes. And look, we do have some investments there. I mean, as you know, when we acquired that business and we acquired some of the technology that came from Wells Fargo, our goal was to improve on some of that technology set and also get us into markets where perhaps the business haven't been as competitive as before. We've been investing in a lot of work with our collateralized loan obligation portal. That was fairly reasonably sized IT project, for example. And we're already beginning to see the benefits of that in terms of attracting new customers with the real-time data that we're able to provide our issuers, which really helps them with the pricing. So it's always a balance about how much you invest and cutting. And we've always said that we would always invest into these businesses to help them grow. And that's a great example of where we did invest, and we are seeing growth in new customers coming in.

Okay. And maybe just finally -- just on the FY '27 outlook slide, I mean, obviously, the organic business improvement of $0.03 per share. I mean, what do you see as the main positive delta potential for that line? And how much of that do you see as being driven by cost reduction in '27?

Look, this is around $22 million of cost reduction in there, Nigel. Overall, I think, as I said, we think cost inflation will be sub-3% going into FY '27. Where the major growth -- where you're going to see the major growth is going to be in Corporate Trust and in employee share plans, where we see both of those businesses continuing the momentum that we saw in FY '26. Issuer Services, there's a little bit of a business mix change. As we sort of said, there's a particular high-margin piece of business that won't repeat into FY '27. That will be replaced by some lower-margin businesses. So the margin story in issuer is a little bit more nuanced. So the absolute growth is coming largely out of Corporate Trust and Employee share plans.

And would debt issuance be the big swing factor there that could drive it further higher? Would that be because I mean, with corporate actions, the delta is relatively sort of $30 million.

I think so. That's a fair assumption, absolutely.

Your next question comes from Siddharth Parameswaran from JPMorgan.

A few questions, if I can. Just firstly, just on the margin income. I just want to understand if there is any conservatism or not in some of the components of the guidance you've given for FY '27. In particular, it seems like the proportion of nonexposed balances that you're assuming in FY '27 seems to be materially higher than second half '26 as a portion of the overall balances. I just wanted to understand why that is. And obviously, that has a lower yield on it. But also just the conversion efficiency that increased in the second half to 99%. And I think you're guiding to around 96% for FY '27. Maybe you could just comment on how you see that conversion efficiency likely to play out?

Yes. Thanks, Siddharth. So in terms of the foundational assumption for our guidance, we assume balances for FY '27 to be consistent with our exit balances. And so we've seen in the past that, that has proven a little bit conservative. But also there's always a little bit of nuance between rates and balances and how it all plays out. I think -- but we just try to be absolutely consistent with how we've done in previous years. And that plays into the point on nonexposed balances.

So our exit nonexposed balances are higher than what they have been. What we've actually seen there is one particular corporate trust client where we've been growing the relationship and growing the balances with them. But those particular balances are all nonexposed and they are low yielding for us. And so that is impacting our, one, the quantum of nonexposed balances, but two, the yield on the nonexposed book. Now as we've said on many occasions, we don't look at the individual client relationships through the lens of balances or fees. We look at it in the round. And we're very comfortable having low-yielding nonexposed balances from clients if that means that as long as the broader commercial relationship meets all of our target thresholds, which in this case, it does. So that is really why the nonexposed balances have gone up and why the yield looks like it's coming down.

And the conversion efficiency?

Sorry, Siddharth, the conversion efficiency. So yes, look, there's no doubt we had a very good second half from a conversion efficiency perspective. We were able to get some really good rates from certain banks who are hungry for U.S. dollars on sort of on some 3-month and 6-month arrangements. We are not certain that they will repeat through FY '27, which is why we're guiding at 96%. I still think relative to history, 96% is a great result, but we will obviously be striving to get that higher.

Okay. No problems. I might just ask another question just around tokenization then. Just if you could just help us understand your partnership with Securitize, what that means for your costs, what the demand is from clients, what your expectation is of the take-up of this either for yourselves or for some of your competitors over the next 12 months, 24 months, some of these a different form of ledger to what's being used currently.

And just related to that, there's a lot of change that seems to be happening in the industry at the moment, reviews into transfer agents. Obviously, tokenization, just do we have clarity that a, you won't go the way that Equiniti went in seeking to seek corporate solution to any changes that are occurring and also your commitment that I suppose management are actually keen to stay and see this through for the next couple of years. Can you just answer that, please?

Yes. There's a lot in that to unpack. Look, I think from a Computershare perspective is we expect sort of capital market structures to continue to evolve both with sort of planned infrastructure updates and also tokenization initiatives. And as we've seen through sort of many years of market change, Computershare remains deeply engaged with our issuers, stakeholders and regulators really to create opportunities for the group. And our strategy really is to continue to act as that trusted bridge across traditional and digital markets for issuers and their shareholders. We will leverage our experience of connecting issuers, investors and infrastructures across multiple jurisdictions as we sort of navigate that sort of market change.

Now what's been very, very clear is post-trade registration of an asset is a critical role even in a tokenized world and very much recognized by, in this case, the U.S. regulator, the SEC. And we'll continue to sort of work and lead with the industry to provide additional sort of complementary services to our clients and markets stakeholders because we can provide clients with the ability to issue digital tokens as well as maintain their traditional issued capital. So look, it all sounds great and it all sounds exciting, a little bit like when everyone said Bitcoin was going to replace all the banks, right? But from my perspective, we really see issuers, which are our customers in an education phase at the moment. They're really trying to understand how these developments will drive value. Will it change liquidity pools? What benefits will we get from it? And that education phase will probably take a while, while others, including Computershare sort of contemplate or build new infrastructure.

And I guess it's that sort of the contemplation and the building of the new infrastructure where we are most engaged. And we expect traditional markets and digital markets to run alongside one another for a considerable period, likely many, many years to come. You asked a couple of questions in terms of what's our view. At the moment, we have the capability to issue, which is mint and burn digital tokens and work alongside the existing one. We have a relationship with Securitize, which is sort of built on APIs using their platform. It's not exclusive. We could do something else if we wanted to. As I said, there's not a lot of demand sort of happening there. The interesting place is really about what's happening with the clearing and settlement and then also the exchanges and what they're doing, and we're in dialogue with all of them.

Look, I think Computershare's approach has been pretty conservative as far as rushing out to spend and build and they might come. We've got a relationship. We're testing the water. We're dealing with regulators. We've got options. There's not a lot of demand at this stage, but that will continue to evolve like we saw financial markets for many, many years. And remember, it was Computershare that sort of put forward the issuer sponsored token design, and we're very, very active in it. So anyway, that's kind of a quick summary on tokenization. And I think from my perspective, it's actually going to create some new revenue opportunities potentially as there will be areas where we couldn't play in before or we're out of as there's more sort of direct registration as a result of using tokens. So -- but that's a long way off. I'm not waving that flag now.

Your next question comes from Julian Braganza from Goldman Sachs.

Just first one on Issuer -- ex MI, the revenue growth there for the second half a little bit softer 4.3%. And one thing more, how we should be thinking about that number and any drivers that are impacting that in the half? And also just a second question just around -- I guess we can see a similar thematic there with Corporate Trust, a little bit softer in terms of second half revenue growth. Just any commentary around that.

Yes. So look, I mean, from a -- I'll deal with Corporate Trust first. Look, I think from an overall market perspective, debt issuance generally was pretty strong. We saw fee revenue growth of up 9.5%. If you look at the market, asset-backed security growth was around about 20%. CLOs were up around about sort of mid-30%, et cetera. And a lot of it's timing and whether it's your customers and products, et cetera. We did see CLOs sort of taper off just from a general market perspective in the second half. But I think, I mean, overall, we continue to see debt issuance increase, especially through structured products. I think on the conventional side, it was a little bit quieter, no doubt about it. When I sort break into our business, I look at new deal revenues, I can see that new deal revenues increased sort of 23% over what we saw in '26, et cetera.

So, look, the business has always been very, very stable in terms of what it does it. You get some stronger halves than others. But I think that it's a business that is -- that maintains very stable market share across the structured product categories. I think that you'll see debt issuance continue to be pretty consistent in terms of issuances because there is a little bit of recovery when rates were sort of popping around a couple of years back, but that's really the story in Corporate Trust. You had another question around Issuer. I just missed that at the start. Can you repeat that?

Yes, sure. So some thematic in terms of Issuer Services where second half is a bit softer, about 4.3% and that's despite the typical tailwinds around corporate actions. Just want to understand just the drivers of that growth in the second half.

Yes. Look, I don't think there was any specific one item that I would call out first half to second half or quieter. I mean, I think that looking through sort of registry, I certainly sort of if you look at overall public markets and the timing of some of these transactions, I really saw '26 as a little bit of a turning point, especially in U.S. listings like client numbers within the registry business generally have remained fairly stable. We saw market share sort of modestly increase in a number of our marketplaces. And then outside of the listed company addressable market, we also saw a number of things, especially in the first half around ETFs and some REITs, some of the services that we actually provide there that perhaps from a timing perspective, weren't really in the second half.

And then you look at the transactional volumes outside of just client numbers and Issuer transactional revenue is probably a little bit more diverse than the plans revenue. It's not just sort of trading. There's a whole bunch of stuff, everything from sort of loss certificates to DRS fees, to IPO fees to DRIP, et cetera. Again, that was fairly consistent. But sometimes you can get a first half, second half bias. So -- but nothing I would really call out in terms of weaknesses in the second half.

Got it. And maybe just a follow-up on employee share plans, transaction revenues doing obviously very well in that second half '26 period. I just want to understand what gives you comfort around your guidance comment that they should continue to do better. So help us understand what gives you comfort around the growth here. And I look at the revenue and transaction revenues is a very meaningful proportion of total revenue. I just want to get comfortable with that trajectory.

Well, I think that we've always said in employee share plans that there's this structural growth trend of what we call the equitization of remuneration, which is a little bit of a mouthful, which is really about corporates using more and more equity to attract, retain and reward employees, right? And we have -- you have to remember that quite often, there is an award and then there's generally a lag period, like a vesting period, could be 12 months, 24 months, 36 months, it varies, but there's always a little bit of a lag.

And what we're seeing in the data is that despite very high trading volumes, the book continues to be replenished. So the number of units being issued by organizations continue to increase. Now one of the things that is interesting for me is a little bit of a behavior's thing. I have seen more employees choosing to do sell-all transactions and sell partial transactions. And I think you see that in a little bit of an uncertain world. And so I think as far as confidence in the guidance, one, we have the replenishment of the book. More and more -- you look at some stats, like 15 of our top 20 clients, it's like 8% more employees are getting equity, right, on average, right? And I think with some of that uncertainty, you'll still see a little bit more of the sell-all transactions.

So that really kind of gives us the confidence that we -- this is not just a cyclical business that there is an underlying structural growth trend. Now of course, if equity markets correct themselves, of course, there may well be a correction, but it's probably a lot more stable than people realize.

Got it. And last question for me just on Issuer Services margins and the cost story investments being made there. I mean just look at the benefits from Corporate Actions and the margin profile, it looks like there's very, very meaningful investments being made in Issuer Services over FY '26 and adjusting for margin income. I just want to get comfort here. If you're looking at FY '27, you talked about cost out opportunity $22 million. You talked about 3% underlying OpEx growth. But if I think about Issuer Services stand-alone, the margin trajectory for '27 and the view on these investments, how should we be thinking about that?

So in terms of '27 for Issuer Services, Julian, I think that -- the way to think about it is that we should see an increase in EBIT, right? So we expect EBIT to grow a little bit. We expect EBIT ex MI to grow a little bit, but there is going to be a change in the mix of the business. And so we have -- that we had a particularly profitable piece of business in '26 that will not repeat in '27. And that piece of that contract or that piece of business is being replaced by growth of other revenue lines across Entity Solutions and Investor Engagement as an example. And they are just at lower margins than what it is replacing.

So we're going to see some revenue growth, and we'll see some EBIT growth. Margin income will be broadly flat, I would expect. So it's all on the -- it's on revenue ex MI. But as I say, you will probably see a little bit of margin compression.

Your next question comes from Kieren Chidgey from UBS.

My questions have been -- just wanted to confirm a couple of items. Firstly, on costs. Nick, when you talk about sub-3% for '27, is that sort of an all-in number? Is it sort of preadjusting for disposals? Just wanted to confirm whether or not that is sort of bottom line OpEx growth expectation.

Yes. So that is all-in, Kieren. So if you -- if we adjusted for the disposals, it would be less than -- it would be probably around 1%, so 1%.

Okay. And secondly, on margin income, the discussion earlier around the nonexposed balances coming from a sort of big corporate trust client and they're coming at lower sort of, I guess, yields given they're nonexposed. How should you -- or how should we think about that over the medium term? Do you expect sort of the nonexposed mix to continue rising within your overall sort of margin income balances over time?

Yes. Look, it's a difficult question to answer because it's obviously inextricably linked to the broader development of that business and all of these margin income outcomes are individually negotiated. So a lot of it will come down to individual client negotiations. What I would say is that as issuance continues to rise, we should see continued growth in both fee revenue and in balances in corporate trust. And I think that whilst I would anticipate that as the business grows, we'll see growth in nonexposed balances, it should be fairly consistent with growth in the exposed side as well because there are certain products within corporate trust, which have to be exposed, which the underlying trust documents would say that this has to be held in an account of this nature bla, bla, bla. So my expectation is that exposed and nonexposed will grow at the same pace.

Right. And then finally, just on, I guess, capital management and the div payout up nicely in the final div quite strongly year-on-year. As you said, you'd probably go net cash by the end of this calendar year. How should we and how are you thinking about the dividend payout policy moving forward over the medium term?

Yes. I mean, clearly, discussed it with the Board. We have room to continue increasing the dividend. As Nick alluded to, we'd love to be in a position to balance M&A, buyback and dividend, right? We have one of these where we're restricted from a buyback perspective. So that's why you're seeing more coming in on the dividend. So look, I think we'll -- we've got capability to go up towards the very top end of what our range is down the track for shareholders, and the Board will discuss it. So, yes.

Okay. And Stuart, just quickly on the same subject, current sort of vendor sort of interest or potential, particularly around the corporate trust market? Any update there?

Just -- I mean, general M&A type stuff, yes, in that space. Look, our corp dev teams have been pretty busy over the last 6 to 9 months. There has been a range of assets in the Corporate Trust space, not just U.S., but in Europe that have come up as well as opportunities within Issuer Services and elsewhere that we've looked in and done pretty reasonable due diligence, et cetera. But for a number of reasons, not just price, everything from contract structures to culture, we've kind of not gone there, trying to maintain sort of that sort of strength and discipline in terms of what we're doing there.

So look, we are seeing certain assets around. There are opportunities and there's a pipeline of things coming up over the next 12 months that we'll continue to engage in. But we don't want to just do it for the sake of doing it. It's got to be the right asset at the right price with the right synergies, with the right cultural integration, to create that value for shareholders. So that's really top of mind.

Your next question comes from Blake Dowsett from Jarden Group.

Congratulations on a good result. Just a couple of questions from me. Just on the cost at the slide on 38, the slight upgrade to Stage 5 for 2027. Can you just outline what's driving that change? And then also playing that forward, that obviously plays into the EBIT margin guide of 19%. I know back in February, we were kind of talking about a 20%-ish target by '28. So just what your thoughts are to '28, that's kind of going forward where we can think about that margin heading to?

Yes. Thanks, Blake. Yes. So as you can see on 38, we've increased the expectations on Stage 5 by $3.5 million. That's really about -- as we've evolved the analysis and the planning on those initiatives through the year, we've firmed up where the level of savings that we think that we can get out, and we're just more confident now that there's an extra $3.5 million to come. As you can also see on that slide, that rolls into the $22 million of savings that we're calling out for FY '27. Now that $22 million of cost savings in '27, it's not all going to be delivered on the 1st of July or it hasn't all been delivered on the 1st of July. So that will roll some of the annualization -- that will be $22 million in '27, but the annualization of that amount will be greater and will roll into '28.

So that will help create some momentum towards the 20% target for EBIT ex MI margin in '28. That 20% has been our medium-term target for the last few years. So we've always said that's where we want to be in '28. But we've also been pretty clear. That's not the end game. That was a sort of medium-term staging post. And so we'll get to '28 and then we'll see where we can go beyond that.

I appreciate that. Just one other. I know you talked about this a couple of calls with Nigel, but can you just go through again the drivers of the mix shift in Issuer Services. Obviously, I understand the recent acquisition being lower margin, but high-margin business and potential loss of business there. I just need to understand what's driving that.

Yes. Just one particular contract that won't repeat. It was high margin. It was lucrative, but it won't repeat. It's come to its end. We're replacing that revenue, albeit the revenue that we're replacing it with is at lower margin. So it's just a normal change in business mix. We see this from time to time. It will just change the margin profile.

Your next question comes from Ed Henning from CLSA.

I'll try to be quick. Just following on the questions on Corporate Trust and the client that's growing the nonexposed balances. If you look at the pipeline going forward for Corporate Trust, where you're winning mandates or winning clients, can that skew it a little bit more towards nonexposed balances where you've got an advantage there? And how should we think about the pipeline that you've got for Corporate Trust and how you're seeing that on balances that is?

Yes. So from a Corporate Trust perspective, our balance sheets, right, and if you include MMS as well, are probably at historic highs, right, since we acquired the business. So -- and so that sort of bodes well. As you know, different products place the balances into different buckets, right? So on the nonexposed stuff, it's really all about sort of some of the residential mortgage-backed securities, CMBS, et cetera. And I look at sort of not -- because when you do a deal, you've got multiyears of revenue with that deal. But so I look at some of the new deal count and I'm doing a comparison year-on-year, we're doing okay, right?

And I think that, I mean, just in one single reporting period, you might have a stack that comes in and it moves it to nonexposed rather than exposed. But look, I think that we can see in the fee revenue growth of just short of 10%. We're seeing increase in deals. We're seeing an increase in average revenue per deal. The EBIT ex MI target on this business has continued to climb, which is always a goal of ours post the acquisition. So I think that the nature of the market will drive where some of these balances go. And sometimes we don't have control over what's going to pop, what's not going to pop. I mean the most important is Corporate Trust being a very sort of stable and reliable underlying sort of structural growth as far as debt issuance is concerned. And our goal is to make sure that we maintain and grow our market share and look at how we can drive additional fee revenues rather than just margin income revenues. And I think the team have done a good job on that.

Okay. And just one last question. You talked before about potential acquisitions and obviously remaining disciplined. If we think about the current environment, is it more likely to see the next 12 months or even 24 months bolt-on acquisitions to larger ones that you're looking at? Or there is a potential opportunity for a large one in the near term if it does come through?

Yes. So I mentioned the teams have been busy. I think we've looked at businesses that had enterprise value from $100 million to $800 million over the last 6 months projecting forward on the assumption that some of these things come to market, there's assets with rough enterprise value of sort of $1 billion to $1.5 billion, right, and everything in between.

So that's -- so there are reasonable opportunities out there. And as I said, the teams have been pretty busy looking at some of these things. And -- but prices are still a little bit high. Some of these assets that we've looked at have been sitting within private equity vehicles. So we're always a little bit nervy around that in terms of looking at the growth profiles, et cetera, et cetera. So, I think to answer your question, there's some sizable things out there, and there's also bolt-on things out there, and we'll continue to look at them and see whether they can add value to the group.

Your next question comes from Andrew Buncombe from Macquarie.

Just one from me. Just interested in a bit of an update on where you are at with getting your licenses in Europe for Corporate Trust.

Yes. So 2 areas. One is the U.K., which is the FCA and then also the Dutch regulator. The Dutch regulator always takes a little bit longer. I think we're sort of 8-plus months away from that. From a U.K. perspective, I probably expect to hear within the coming weeks. I think I mentioned before, FCA have been pretty good to deal with. The case officer is sort of green-lighted, put it up the chain. There's a little -- some formalities that need to be done. But I expect that, as I say, within sort of days or weeks rather than a protracted process. We're not expecting any particular issues. So from my perspective, positive.

And then just for context, when you get those licenses, how long should we expect before you start to write or sign up new contracts? What's the lag there?

Yes. Well, we have existing clients that are in our U.S. books that want to do things in that marketplace. So that's where we'll start. So there'll be some modest organic beginnings of these businesses, and then we'll look to supplement that with inorganic opportunities.

That does conclude our time for questions. I'll now hand back to Mr. Irving for closing remarks.

Yes. Well, first of all, thanks, everyone, for dialing in and also for your questions and your interest in Computershare. And me and the team really look forward to meeting with many of you over the coming days. Thanks very much.

Good morning, and thanks for joining us for Computershare's 1H '26 Results Conference Call. As usual, Nick Oldfield, our CFO, is with me, along with Michael Brown from our IR team.

We've released the presentation pack on our website, and I'll take you through the highlights on this call. Nick will then take you through the financials in more detail, then we'll open the lines for Q&A.

And just to remind you, we will be talking in U.S. dollars constant currency and comparing to 1H FY '25 unless we state otherwise.

Now there is a lot of detail on the results pack, but let me take you straight away to the key features of the result that matter on Slide 2. Business performance. EBIT ex MI, which really talks to the underlying business results was up 12%. And Nick will talk you through all the moving parts, but our BAU OpEx costs were contained below the rate of inflation. And excluding margin income, our margins expanded to 16%. And I think we're well on our way to the 20% EBIT ex MI margin target that we have called out.

Now the margin income result, I thought was a standout. We knew that margin income was a headwind going into this year with the prospect of rate cuts, which actually came quicker than the curves predicted last August. And I know that U.S. cash rates have been a focus for many investors, and they did fall sharply in the half. U.S. cash rates were down over 17% compared to the PCP. However, Computershare's margin income was only down 5%. So there's clearly more to this than cash rates alone, and Computershare's natural hedge worked, and I'll explain that a bit later.

Event and transactional revenues were also a highlight, up almost 13%. And we are seeing increased corporate action activity in some areas, although not firing on all cylinders across all regions yet. Employee share plan transaction volumes continue to grow, which is really a reflection of the continuing growth in the use of equity and remuneration and is really underpinned by increased issuance by companies. And finally, from a key points perspective, with a solid first half under our belts, stronger business performance and improved outlook for margin income, we are upgrading full year earnings guidance to $1.44 per share, and that's growth of 6% over the PCP.

So these are the key points to start with, but let's move to Page 3, which is really a summary of the results. Management EPS was up 3.9%, and we have delivered earnings growth and consistently high returns in a lower interest rate environment. ROIC was over 36%, and our debt leverage reduced to 0.3x. And you may remember that future buybacks are tax inefficient for Computershare at the moment. So the Board has stepped up the interim dividend to the top half of the payout ratio range. AUD 0.55 per share is a 22% increase in the interim dividend, and Nick has kindly tipped in a few of his franking credits for this one as well.

Now let's move to Slide 4. This new chart shows the long-term track record for each of our 3 key business lines and their 7-year CAGRs. The key point is that through organic growth and complementary acquisitions, all of our businesses have delivered solid revenue and EBIT growth over time. Now we've come a long way, and there are some impressive growth rates here. Employee share plans has delivered almost 10% revenue CAGR, underpinned by the issuance tailwind that we have spoken about.

Issuer Services has been a consistent high-quality performer as we leverage our strength and build out complementary product lines. Corporate Trust has delivered the fastest EBIT growth over the period, including that step-up from the Wells Fargo acquisition. And we expect to continue to deliver long-term growth across all our businesses. We will continue to strengthen our competitive positions, widen our competitive moats and deploy new technologies to enhance customer value and, of course, efficiencies.

Now just going into a little bit more detail on each of the business lines for the half. Issuer Services delivered the fastest rate of revenue growth across the group with contributions from all business lines. Registered maintenance revenues improved by over 4%, supported by new client wins across all our major markets. Corporate Actions revenues are recovering with revenue growth of over 12%. And while activity levels are still about 25% below peak 2021 levels, we have seen some strong improvement in some product lines since around November.

IPOs in Hong Kong are a highlight. There's a sharp increase in completed deals, and we have increased our market share of new listings. But here is a good example of the flow-on effect in our business. In Hong Kong, we have seen north of a 400% increase in retail participation and applications for these IPOs. These applicants become shareholders.

Now of course, we earn a corporate actions fee for the listing, but then we end up earning recurring fees for maintaining the register going forward. M&A volumes, on the other hand, are yet to fully recover, as I mentioned earlier on. The number of completed deals was down across all markets apart from Australia. But based on the deal pipelines, the outlook is a little bit more positive, but it is hard to predict which half year period it will actually land in.

Elsewhere in Issuer Services, in January '25, we completed 2 small investor-related acquisitions, which were not in the PCP. Now these businesses are small and the margins are lower as we build out scale and capability. We also touched on tokenization within Issuer Services at our AGM. Since then, we have continued to actively engage with regulators and market participants to help shape the structure of digital markets, and we see this as a long-term positive for us.

Computershare has always, at its heart, been a technology company whose key role is to support and advise issuers. We have applied our deep understanding of the rationale and benefits of existing market structures to design a tokenization model, which we call issuer-sponsored tokens or ISTs. We have been engaging with the digital task force at the SEC on this proposal. And I think it's really encouraging to see that our pro-issuer stance is being reflected in the latest communications from the task force, and we really see that as an opportunity going forward.

I mean, our goal is really to replicate the trust, compliance and protections of traditional registered ownership while enabling the benefits of digital transferability, interoperability and, of course, approaching 24/7 accessibility.

Now moving to Corporate Trust. The business is performing well. Fee revenue up over 12%. We are benefiting from increased issuance volumes across most product categories with strong volume growth in key structured products, RMBS, ABS and CMBS. As expected, higher activity levels are generating higher client balances, and we continue to strengthen our platform and capabilities as we patiently pursue acquisition targets. Employee share plans delivered another set of strong results. Revenues increased by 5%. Client wins across all markets drove higher fee revenues and transactional revenues grew. The plans book continues to grow with the increasing use of equity and employee remuneration.

In Europe, for example, issuance of units increased by over 20%. Recognizing the business has an element of sensitivity to equity markets, I do think we've built an impressive portfolio of multinational clients across diversified industry sectors. And it's really the size of that book that fuels the growth, and we see the number of units being administered increasing over time.

Now let's move to Slide 5, where we talk a little bit about Computershare's natural interest rate hedge. I do think that it's a very important part of Computershare's model. But it allows us to really unwrap why margin income is so resilient at down 5% when the U.S. cash rates for the period was down some 17%. And there are really several parts to this hedge.

First of all, and we've been saying this for a while, lower rates stimulate more activity across our business lines. And as you will see, client balances are up and higher balances can mitigate lower yields. And as a reminder, only about 1/3 of our balances are fully exposed to short-term rate movements. And there's also another part to this hedge with lower interest costs on group debt.

Now there are 2 drivers there, lower interest costs and reduced debt. All our debt is deliberately at floating rates. So we are also benefiting from the lower rates to the tune of some $14 million. Therefore, including interest rate savings, the net impact on lower rates of Computershare overall in the first half was only $8 million. That's only about 1.5% of PBT. So when we combine higher balances, the benefit of our hedge book and lower interest rate costs on a strengthening balance sheet, you can see that looking at lower cash rates alone sometimes misses the bigger picture.

Let me now turn to the outlook on Page 8. In August, we provided initial guidance for management EPS for FY '26 to be up by around 4% to $1.40 per share. This assumed a full year profit contribution from U.K. Mortgage Services, which we successfully divested and closed last week. Even without this additional contribution for the last 5 months of the year, we now expect to deliver management EPS of around $1.44 per share, up 6%. We do have momentum across our key business lines, lower interest costs and of course, the benefit of the share buyback we completed last year. But we will maintain our focus on executing our strategic plans to deliver higher quality Computershare that generates consistent results and enduring returns for shareholders.

Nick, now over to you to go through some of the numbers in more detail.

Thank you, Stuart, and good morning, everyone. So as you've heard, we delivered $0.679 per share of management EPS in the first half of FY '26. Now there's been some noise on costs overnight, so I want to start by clearing this up.

First of all, BAU OpEx was up 2.6%. We have said consistently, our objective is to manage BAU OpEx at or below inflation. This result is firmly in that target range. So what was the noise? Well, we calculate BAU OpEx as general cost increases less the cost-out benefits delivered around the group. Total cost-out benefits totaled $16.5 million. This was $6.2 million in operating synergies from Corporate Trust, whilst our ongoing Stage 5 cost-out program delivered $10.3 million in savings. The next component of cost is investment spend. This is really about the next stage of growth at Computershare. This added $25.7 million of cost. It includes $5 million for 6 months of new ownership of Ingage, CMi2i and BNY Corporate Trust Canada.

The remainder was investment in both technology and people to support ongoing product innovation and revenue growth, particularly in Issuer Services, investments to establish our corporate trust capabilities in Europe and the launch of a social value fund in our U.K. deposit protection service. This does, of course, cut both ways. In the second half FY '26, you will see the benefit of lower cost from the divestment of U.K. mortgage services.

Around 800 people have left the business as a result of that transaction. The third point is a slight delay in the benefits arising from our Stage 5 program. Estimated savings for FY '26 have been reduced by about $6 million. $3.3 million of this reflects a slight delay in the timing of benefits. The other $3 million is simply the fact that we sold the U.K. mortgage services at the end of January before the savings could flow through. More details on the cost-out programs are included on Slide 38.

And today, we announced that these cost-out benefits will also extend to FY '27. We now expect pretax cost savings from Stage 5 and corporate trust programs of $23.2 million in FY '27 and the EBIT ex MI margin will be higher again. I'd now like to touch on stranded cost. As you may recall, in August, I said that there was $40 million of stranded clark costs included in the FY '25 cost base in the Technology Services and Operations segment and that these were to be reallocated out to the business lines in FY '26. In 1H FY '26, around $19 million has been allocated, and the remainder will be allocated in the second half of FY '26.

To be clear, these costs existed in FY '25 and they exist today. They're not an increase. They are stranded simply as they represent costs we have to pay to support the business, and we've just reallocated them out to the divisions. To manage overall costs, therefore, we focus on cost savings elsewhere. And so the $16.5 million of cost out I mentioned earlier offsets these stranded costs almost one for one. Below-the-line costs were also lower. I said in August, they'd be 40% lower in FY '26, higher than FY '27 and disappear by FY '28.

I now expect them to be 30% lower in FY '26. This is what we achieved in the first half and second half of FY '26 will be similarly reduced. Not quite the 40% I expected, but this is largely due to timing of some redundancy expense in the second half. I expect a 55% reduction in FY '27 and still elimination by the first half of FY '28. To reiterate, FY '27 will be the last year of these below-the-line costs. This is all shown on Slide 12. So let me now touch on MI and guidance before we move to questions. In FY '26, we expect to generate around $730 million in MI, an upgrade of $10 million compared with the expectation of $720 million back in August.

You can see this on Slide 9. This is based on average balances of $30.8 billion, in line with exit balances at the end of December. We expect a yield of 2.37% based on the assumption of one rate cut in the U.S. in March and one rate cut in the U.K. in May. This is based on curves as at the 9th of February. Moving forward, I expect MI to continue to be resilient. The hedged yield should increase further to over 3.5% in FY '27. And as we've demonstrated in 1H '26, if rates do fall further and each 50 basis points in global rates is worth around $48 million in margin income, any negative impact can be materially constrained by growth in balances, lower cost of debt and increases in hedged yields.

Turning to guidance. Slide 13 shows the second half bridge. Relative to 2H FY '25, there's $0.03 per share of organic business growth and cost out. This continues the momentum of the first half. Yes, EBIT ex MI growth in absolute terms is a bit lower, but that's because the second half is always bigger and because we're dealing with the sale of U.K. mortgage services. That would have contributed $0.01 per share in the second half had we not sold it, around 2% of EBIT ex MI.

Margin income is down $0.02 per share versus the PCP. Interest expense is down $0.04 per share. This is the natural hedging action powered by a full 6 months of benefit of paying off the USPP in November 2025. Tax is broadly neutral, and there's $0.01 per share of buyback accretion. We expect this to deliver us $0.76 per share of earnings in 2H FY '26. This would be a record half for Computershare. I'll now hand back to Stuart.

Thank you, Nick. I think we are really looking forward to some of the questions. So why don't we move straight to that.

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Kieren Chidgey with UBS.

I might start with a sort of follow-up question on costs. Thanks for the additional detail you provided, Nick. I just wanted to circle back on some of your comments. So the investment number you called out in first half '26, I think, around $25 million, you're saying $5 million was acquisition-related, $20-odd sort of tech investment in the business.

I'm just wondering if you can sort of talk to that tech investment around how one-off you kind of see that or whether or not truly it is sort of ongoing investments you need to make more broadly on a go-forward basis? And also around sort of the additional benefit you flagged in '27, which I think you said $23 million, whether or not sort of that's the full scope of, I guess, what you see left post Stage 5 of your cost programs and whether or not we should think about or be prepared for any stranded costs out of your U.K. mortgage services sale as well?

Okay. Thanks, Kieren. So let's try and -- I think there's probably 3 questions in there. So the first one, the $20 million of non-M&A investment in the first half, yes, look, a large part of that is really one-off. So it's a one-off sort of step-up. I don't anticipate it being a recurring $20 million. There will be a little bit -- there will be a similar investment perhaps in the second half, but it will level out. And then you shouldn't see that recur going through to FY '27. The second piece was...

Just around the '27 sort of cost...

Yes. So the $23.2 million of cost savings in '27, that should be the -- it's largely the end of the -- by the end of '27, we'll have delivered the programs. So they will all be finished, but there will probably be a little bit of flow-through of benefits into FY '28, partly because of the timing of when that $23.2 million will hit in FY '27. So if you think about our EBIT ex MI margin, I'd anticipate it being sort of 19-ish percent in FY '27 and 20% in '28, if that makes sense.

And Nick, is there any sort of -- is that a gross or a net number? Is there sort of any stranded costs out of the...

Sorry, and the stranded costs on U.K. mortgage services. There is a small amount of stranded costs. But we have -- and that's really the cost of supporting the TSA over the next 12 months. We anticipate that through the course of the 12 months, as we wind down the TSA, we'll be able to eliminate that cost. So we're not anticipating a legacy sort of stranded cost issue in the business. We anticipate...

Definitely it's different from U.S. mortgage services because the U.K. business, as you'll be aware, was up for sale for a long time. So that has actually given us time to strip out some of these traditional stranded costs and have it pretty much run along as a sort of separate entity, so to speak. So the stranded cost issue in U.K. mortgage services is a very different picture.

Okay. My second question was broadly around tokenized equities. Obviously, it's a big subject matter, so I don't expect to unpack it in full today. But Stuart, I guess the question was more going to if you do see an opportunity here, what additional investment you need to make across the organization, either organic or inorganic to get the tech blockchain solutions that you might require? How you're thinking about sort of that investment slate -- and sort of at the same time, I guess you've still got the interest in building corporate trust through inorganic growth if that pipeline does open up. So how are you sort of lining up those 2 opportunities?

Yes. So if we start about sort of tokenization of digitized securities, et cetera. And I think that in the U.S., where really the discussion on tokenization is the most advanced, I think that the regulator is all about been ensuring the same level of investor protections and transparency for tokens and view them as very much regulated securities. And issuers will still require a regulated third party or a transfer agent to really sort of maintain what we call the master security file and administer corporate actions and force transfer restrictions, et cetera.

So we have been speaking with a number of market participants and regulators and also third parties about how we could structure it. We proposed something called an issuer-sponsored token, which is really designed to replicate that trust compliance and protections. And you would have seen perhaps some of the disclosures by the regulator that they fully expect that an IST model can work, but it will work alongside the current business that we have just now.

So what does that mean? Well, it just means that we have to integrate into whatever distributed ledger or blockchain-type technology there is. As you would have seen, you've got NASDAQ thinking about doing something. You've got NYSE thinking about doing something. You've got DTCC thinking about doing something. You've got other third parties. Now they're all talking about doing things which are nothing to do with the transfer agency component, right? That's got to be very, very clear, especially because of the model in the U.S. all the brokerage positions, custodian positions, et cetera, they're all held at DTCC anyway, right?

We never see them, right? We just have one account that covers their position. We look after registered sort of mom-and-pop type shareholders. So -- but we would need to integrate. Now part of that is just APIs into whatever technology solution may well be part of that. It may well mean that we'll either develop, acquire or partner to do certain blockchain components of that. I think my view is this is going to take a long time to play out. I do not see it as a negative. In fact, the independence of the transfer position or a transfer agent is still being maintained at Computershare.

And whatever technology comes, we'll integrate it, we'll own it, et cetera. I don't think it's going to be a huge cost element into Computershare. But what we want to do is we just want to make sure that issuers are protected and issuers are in charge of doing their own token. And look, we're not seeing a lot of demand for it at all apart from a couple of noisy companies whose business is around crypto. But just rest assured, Computershare is at the forefront of it. But it is a big topic, and I look forward to sort of further dialogue over the coming days on it.

The next question comes from Nigel Pittaway with Citi.

I was just wondering, first of all, if it's possible to get a bit of divisional color about this sort of EBIT ex MI margin improvement that you're targeting and flagging. Obviously, previously, you had a target for CCT to reach a 20% margin. So is that incorporated in that sort of guidance? And how should we think about it sort of happening across the various divisions?

Yes. So what we've said is EBIT ex MI, we have a target of around about 20% margins. That's really what we are targeting from a growth perspective. Now in CCT, which is our Corporate Trust business, as you'll remember, Nigel, quite often, there's the fee structure there means it's a lot -- it used to be a lot of margin income and less fees. And we're gradually sort of changing some of that sort of model into sort of more fee income, which helps improve the EBIT ex MI line.

But I think it's really going to be a contributor from all the divisions. Issuer is more of the mature business, and it's got some, shall we say, sort of start-up early growth businesses in it around investor engagement and other bits and pieces, which compresses a little bit of the margins on that front. But if you look at the EBIT ex MI performance over the last few years, we have been making step changes and improvements as we head towards that target. So I think it will be, as I said, across more of the business lines, CCT plans and Issuer probably in that order.

Okay. And I mean, is there any reason why plans margins have been relatively static given you've sort of had quite a lot of transactional improvement there? I mean is that just some investment going in, in the first half or...

Yes. Yes. I mean FY sort of '26 is really the first year where the major platform integration components of that business have been completed. So it's kind of -- it's got over the large-scale global complex technology integrations and migrations, et cetera, sort of running through. I think that it's a pretty good margin business as it stands.

I think that whenever we talk about EBIT ex MI margin businesses, I think the future capability for Computershare to use new technology that's getting deployed, and I'm not going to jump on an AI bandwagon here, but the ability to reduce some of our back-office reconciliation costs in these highly regulated business, et cetera, will lead to sort of future margin expansion because the cost to run some of these businesses there. Of course, the trick is not to sort of have that competed away these benefits, and we'll work hard on that.

But I think with -- now that the bulk of that tech integration is over, we can then sort of focus on more efficiencies and deploying some of these new technologies over the next few years that are coming through, which should help us expand the margins.

And then maybe just quickly on the footnote to Slide 38, this initial FY '27 target of $46.1 million growth. Just to be clear, is that the cost-out target? And how does that relate to -- I think it was -- did you say 23.2 earlier?

The $46.1 million is the cost to achieve, Nigel.

Right. Okay. Yes. So it's below the line.

So it ties to the -- it should tie to the chart on Slide 12.

Yes. Okay. Fair enough. And then finally, could you just maybe give us sort of some idea of the assumptions over the key drivers that are in guidance, so things such as what you're sort of allowing for corporate actions, corporate debt, share plans volumes, et cetera?

Yes. No, absolutely. I think that's important. I mean, on the corporate actions front, as I mentioned earlier, the first sort of 4 or 5 months, generally was pretty flat year-on-year, notwithstanding Hong Kong IPO. But what we have seen certainly is a momentum coming through late November, December and into January on corporate actions. I mean, M&A volume, for example, was down across all regions in this half with the exception of Australia, but we see that now picking up. There's always a lag between announced and completed M&A, of course.

So we think at this sort of early stage of the second half with a bit of momentum, we should see improved corporate actions performance. Employee share plans, I know that there's certainly a view that it's tied to where equity markets are going to be. But I think the fundamental is the number of units and the size of that book is really going to be the driver of that sort of trading revenues. The AUA on that book sort of increased 25% in 1H '26 versus 1H '25.

The number of units are up some 20% in some regions, so -- and the big regions. So that will continue to be sort of a driver so fairly consistent sort of coming through from a performance perspective. And then we touched on -- I mean, corporate trust debt issuance has been picking up and recovering. So all 3 of the businesses have some elements of momentum in them to the second half. That will offset, obviously, sort of lower margin income, but then we get the benefit of the lower debt costs as well. So that's really how we see that sort of flowing through at this early stage of the second half.

The next question comes from Andrew Buncombe with Macquarie.

Just 3 relatively simple ones, please. The first one, I think the buyback thesis is well understood now. So you've obviously increased your dividend payout ratio this half. How should we think about the dividend payout ratio in second half '26 and then again into FY '27, please?

Look, I think we've tipped into sort of the higher point of our range. Sort of I think the payout ratio is like 52% or whatever. We've got a little bit room to go there. It's good to see that step up just in terms of returns for shareholders. Even with this step-up, net debt should continue to actually drop. I think that's a really important factor there. So there's headroom there. And there's always a balance in terms of what to do. I mean, obviously, I mean, personally, I'm a little bit frustrated about the whole buyback situation as well.

I think that's a generally pretty good mechanism in terms of returns for shareholders. But once we flow through to the second half, the Board will look at that sort of payout ratio and probably look at that in the sort of low to mid-50s range. That's what you would probably expect to see. And then as for '27, that will depend on what other capital we may deploy elsewhere, et cetera. So hard to give you a full prediction on that.

Yes, that's fair. The second one was just in relation to the 20% target for EBIT ex MI margins. Can you just remind us when you were targeting to actually achieve that at a group level?

Yes. Well, when we first thought it would sort of take us 2 to 3 years to get there, Andrew. And I think that's still sort of relevant. So it's going to be sort of FY '28.

Yes. And then the final one was just on the tax rate. You're at the lower end of the full year guide in the first half on a management accounting basis. Is there anything unusual that's going to cause that number to step up in the second half? Or should we assume that, that effective tax rate guidance for FY '26 is pretty conservative?

Look, I think it's reasonable. I wouldn't say it was necessarily conservative. Based on how we're seeing the business, how we're seeing the first half, I think the guidance is reasonably accurate. There's nothing out there that I think that could materially change things.

The next question comes from Siddharth Parameswaran with JPMorgan.

A couple of questions, if I can, please. First is just on just the transactional revenues. And maybe if you could just make some comments on where you think we are in the cycle on Issuer Services and also share plans? And also just how -- what you're assuming when you target this 20% EBIT ex MI margin target in FY '28, just whether you're expecting those transactional-related revenues to normalize lower or continue at these levels?

Yes. So if you look at the transactional elements across the different business lines, so you start off with Issuer Services. The transactional sort of fees within that really are corporate actions and a little bit of SRM and shareholder paid fees. In terms of where we're at the cycle, as I mentioned before, corporate actions are, I would say, below cycle. They are improving, as I said, but I think there's more to go there.

There's always a bit of a lag between that component. The SRM component, which is stakeholder relationship management, that's kind of big large proxy jobs. It's a little bit harder to predict where we are. It's not really a cyclical component on that perspective. As far as plans are concerned, you'd say that the transactional revenues would be above market cycle if the book was the same size as what it was 2 years ago. But the thing is the book is considerably larger, the number of units being issued that are larger.

So I would not say that we're at the top of the cycle with there. I mean, clearly, there's equity markets in most sectors are sort of doing okay. But it's a larger size of the book that will actually continue to drive that. So we're pretty optimistic on sort of maintaining and, in fact, growing some of that. And it's also a very diversified book. We're not -- it's not just all tech stocks or all health stocks or all resource stocks. It's very diverse, both from a sector perspective, geography perspective.

So I think I wouldn't say that we're at a high from a sort of cyclical perspective there. And then finally, although it's technically not a transactional issue, but just to go on to the theme of the cycles, I think that debt issuance is recovering. We were below cycle on a number of these structured products, and you can see that sort of increasing. And part of what we did in one of the earlier slides in terms of showing that sort of 7-year track record is through these cycles, right, on the track record and the CAGR growth. But anyway, so a little bit of a mixed bag sit there, but that's my perspective at the moment.

And sorry, just for the FY '28 targets, just what you're assuming versus where we are today?

I'm not assuming any significant change to these transactional volumes to be able to meet targets for '28.

Yes, similar point in the cycle is your assumption. Yes. Got it. Okay. Just one other question then just around the margin income side. So you've pushed your banks hard again. It seems like for the last while, we've had the hedged yield continue to surprise on the upside. The recapture rate has now improved on the non-hedged side.

Just wondering if you could comment on whether you feel that this is the new steady state, whether there's more you can do in terms of either lengthening tenure, extracting more yield on the hedge book. And also on the recapture rate, whether that's the 95% odd that we're at now is the go-forward level, whether there's more you can do there?

Yes. So look, Sid, in terms of the recapture rate, 95% is probably as good as it's going to get. There is a -- we get a better -- a lot of it will come down to the geographic mix. And so we get a better recapture rate in the U.S. versus, say, Canada and the U.K. And so if we saw more swing towards the U.S. versus the U.K. and Canada, then we might see the recapture rate increase further again.

But I think that in reality, it's not -- I don't anticipate the U.S. becoming more heavier in the sort of -- in the portfolio than it is currently. In terms of the hedge rate, that's really going to trend broadly in line with the 5-year swap rate. That's about 3.5% at the moment. I don't think -- because of the nature of the book, it's going to tip over sort of 3.5% in FY '27. I think it perhaps peaks around 3.6% given where the current swap rate is. And then it will sort of stabilize in that sort of 3.4% to 3.6% range for the next 4 to 5 years.

The weighted average life of the book is -- was 5 years at the end of December. It's tipped up a little bit in January because of some trades that we've done. But we target a weighted average life between 5 and 6 years. So we're not really looking to put any more tenure in at this point.

The next question comes from Ed Henning with CLSA.

Just the first one, can you highlight where you've seen and where you can see in the future average fee increases either by rolling out additional products and seeing some more uptake there or increasing pricing to improve margins going forward?

Yes. So look, I think improving margins is going to be about fees and then also about cost to serve. We are in a competitive marketplace. But I think if you look at Issuer Services, for example, some of the things that we're trying to build out that sort of one-stop shop around entity management and Investor Relations beneficial shareholders and then shareholder advisory, putting that all together, which will be quite a unique offering into the marketplace and drive sort of the fee structures from that more sort of digitization of some of the interactions will lower the cost to serve, et cetera.

So the margin expansion is going to come from clearly sort of the top line fee elements where we can and also back-office efficiencies. So we look at that across the board. And we track the average fees per client, the average fees per either shareholder or employee, the per deal fee, all that type of stuff. We track it quite heavily and continue to try and sort of push the boundaries on that, notwithstanding the competitive markets we're in.

And then just the second one, maybe just touch on the balance sheet and acquisitions. Look, I understand you've talked about being patient. But can you just run through at the moment, what are the hurdles to deploy capital? Is it just the price for assets? Is rates falling in the U.S. helping at all? And are there any areas that are looking more promising at the moment or just still kind of scratching around?

Yes. Look, it's a good point, Ed. I think one of the things, if you look at from a Corp Trust perspective, it's really about making sure that we've got the appropriate regulatory approvals to put us in the best possible position to actually pursue these acquisitions. So that takes some time to go through that. We've got our applications in for various jurisdictions around the world, and that really makes us a strong counterparty. So you've got to be patient for that. But it is ironic that sometimes when there is -- if there's a market correction and prices are lower, they are the best times to buy businesses. And I think I look at lots of other businesses around the world.

I look at Computershare in history as well. And I've seen that sort of pressure come down and go out and buy at high price. That's how you're going to destroy shareholder value. So patience is key here. And we remain committed to the disciplined framework for M&A. And that really is where we will get the confidence to drive long-term shareholder value on that patience. But a number of things come across. Prices are still high for certain types of assets. And so again, patience. That's the key.

No, that's great. And just to clarify on the approvals that you're seeking, is there any time lines for the European and stuff approvals to come through. Or is it a bit uncertain?

Look, I think that we have a main EU application in, which has been done through the Netherlands and also our applications in with the FCA in the U.K. They generally take 6 to 12 months to go through that process. So look, I would be a little bit disappointed/frustrated if that's not there by the end of this calendar year.

The next question comes from Julian Braganza with Goldman Sachs.

Just the first one. In terms of the cost-out programs coming to an end, just more broadly, how are you thinking about medium-term BAU cost growth? And also just secondly, any thoughts on implications and further cost-out benefits that could come through from embedding AI within the organization?

Yes. So look, I mean, just on the cost-out programs, these were sort of large-scale announced trackable product projects. And it doesn't mean that they come to an end. We're not going to be doing anything, I can assure you, right? But just in terms of how we'll structure it internally, it will be a bit different. And I do think that implementation of new technologies will help us reduce costs. There's no doubt about it. I mean you mentioned AI. It's certainly a technology that will provide various degrees of efficiencies across the group. Like lots of companies are sort of talking about it.

We have projects in place. The length of time it takes developers to build something in an AI model is coming down, and that means that your time to market new products gets there or you require sort of less sort of on the tech side. You've got the other products and tools that you can put in, which will also drive that. So at the moment, there is some certainly challenges in terms of getting a return on your investment on some of that big AI stuff. Some of the tech costs that we are is us investigating these.

We have multiple projects vying for attention, and it's sort of my job and Nick's job to sort of assess these from an investment perspective. And these are both revenue-generating and cost reduction opportunities. But we're not sort of flying the flag, but I certainly think these technologies will allow us to improve margins going forward as well. So yes, we'll certainly be a deployer of these techs.

Okay. Great. And then secondly, it looks like part of the cost saves are also coming through in the form of revenue synergies. Can you maybe just talk a little bit about that. And also just any revenue synergies that should come through in FY '27 and which divisions that's being floated up into?

Yes. The revenue synergies, Julian, you'll see on sort of Slide 38 that we called out that some of the benefits from the CCT or the Corporate Trust program are coming through in the form of revenue synergies. That's really in new product offerings that we've been able to kind of develop through the synergy and integration program that we've been running. And so when we called out $80 million of overall program benefits from that acquisition that we included in that $80 million target some revenue synergies and benefits. And you can see in FY '26 first half is about $5 million or so of revenue benefits, and you probably sort of see something similar in the second half.

Got it. And then lastly, just in terms of margin income and specifically balances, can you maybe just talk to medium-term upside to balances? I know previously, you were flagging about $3 billion to $5 billion over the next couple of years. Is that still your view given where we're at? We're starting to see green shoots of recovery in corporate activity? Is the improvement in balances matching up to expectations. Or is there a bit more runway relative to that previous guidance that you given the market?

Yes. Look, I mean, I think if you look over the last 3 or 4 halves, you'll have seen that balance has steadily inched up every single half as rates have dropped down. So there's certainly a bit of a trend there. If you go back and look over history, then you only have to go back to sort of FY '21, and you'll see that overall balances were about $3 billion to $4 billion higher than they are today. So certainly, we are at least 10% off the peak.

I think as Stuart already talked about earlier, corporate actions volumes were pretty subdued really from our perspective in the first half. And so both a pickup in corporate actions activity and ongoing growth recovery in debt issuance should drive those balances higher over the medium term.

The next question comes from Andrei Stadnik with Morgan Stanley.

Can I ask my first question around the Corporate Trust? So you noted stronger mandates, particularly in the higher-margin structured products in the half. How do you view that unfolding over the rest of the year?

Look, I think that there's definitely been sort of momentum across these ones here. Just in terms of the market, RMBS issuance up 35% commercial mortgage-backed security, up 5% in the market, so probably a little bit more room there. CLO issuance up 10%, asset-backed securities up over 35%. So there has been some pretty good U.S. debt issuance volume come back. So -- but that was recovery, right, because it came to -- it dropped for a while.

So there's nothing that I can see in the short term that won't sort of change that in terms of as we move through into the second half. I mean there's still a lot of sort of debt being issued. And it's always part of the underlying sort of structural growth of our Corporate Trust businesses. There's no doubt about it that it's elevated, but it's elevated because it's doing catch-up. So I think that it should continue through to the second half.

Including that favorable mix to structured products?

Yes, I think so, yes.

And look, my second question, just one slide earlier on Issuer Services on Slide 20. You showed some very strong Registered Agent units under administration growth about 10%. Can you talk a little bit about what's driving that? And then maybe also just what are the differences for the trends in direct versus partnerships?

Yes. So Registered Agent business, I mean, it's fundamentally the registering legal entities across all the various states in the U.S. And some of that customers do directly through us. Some of them do it through large-scale accountancy firms, et cetera, where we have relationships with, which is kind of like an indirect.

So look, it continues to grow in terms of number of entities. I mean in the background on that business, we've been building out new technology capability because it is a lower-margin business than core registry. And we're working on the integration of that -- some of these systems -- newer systems to lower the cost to serve. And our real focus there, not only is just growing entities, it's really actually improving the margins in that business and scaling it. So it has a track record of continuing to grow, but it's got somewhere to go there. And I also think there's some inorganic opportunities that will come down the road on that particular business as well that will help us with some of that scale. But that's really sort of entity management.

I'll now hand the call back over to Mr. Irving for any closing remarks.

Yes. Well, listen, thanks so much for joining us. I think in summary, good start to the year. Businesses have momentum into the second half, and it is encouraging to see some of the recovery in some of that more market-sensitive activities. But I do think there's more to go. We did give a modest upgrade to the full year guidance and a nice step-up in the dividend for our shareholders. But I think importantly for me, the operating businesses are performing consistently and predictably, which really gives me that confidence for the full year and beyond.

We talked about the pursuit of attractive acquisitions. As I mentioned, answering the question, patience is key. We remain committed to our sort of frameworks and confidence we'll be able to drive long-term shareholder value with these in the future. But I can assure you that in the meantime, we're going to focus on driving organic earnings growth and consistent high returns regardless of the interest rate market. But anyway, thanks so much for joining the call, and I really look forward to meeting with many of you over the coming days.

Well, good morning, everyone. Glad to see the sun has come out today for Computershare's Annual General Meeting. I am Paul Reynolds, I'm the Chair of Computershare, and I welcome you to our 2025 meeting. We're delighted to offer our shareholders and proxy holders the choice of participating in today's meeting in person here at our offices in Yara Falls or via the hybrid meeting platform. The AGM is an opportunity for shareholders, whether attending here in person or through the online platform to hear from us and to put questions to the Board and to the external auditor.

There is a quorum present, and I therefore now declare the meeting open. Let me commence our business with some introductions. Next to me here. First in the line there is Computershare's President and CEO, Stuart Irving. Then we have the nonexecutive Directors present today, Tiffany Fuller; John Nendick; Abi Cleland; and last but not least, Joe Velli at the end there. Unfortunately, not able to be with us today is Gerrard Schmid, our Canadian base Director who is undergoing a medical procedure.

I also want to welcome to the meeting, our Group CFO, Nick Oldfield, he's up front here. Group General Counsel and Company Secretary, Dominic Horsley, the side here. and upfront Marcus Laithwaite from PricewaterhouseCoopers, our external auditor. And Marcus is available to answer any questions you have about the conduct of the audit of Computershare's financial statements, the preparation of the content of the auditor's report, the accounting policies adopted by Computershare in the preparation of the financial statements and the independence of the auditor in relation to the conduct of the audit.

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So the business. Computershare delivered a strong performance in financial year 2025. We've made good progress executing our strategies to deliver a higher quality, more straightforward Computershare, which is able to deliver stronger levels of earnings and return on invested capital through the ups and downs of the business cycle. Now as you may remember, we report our results in and is seen here in U.S. dollars and in constant currency.

Highlighting the results. Earnings this year were slightly ahead of guidance. Management earnings per share increased by 15% to around $1.35 per share. Across our business, we saw an increase in client fees which are recurring. We also some -- we also saw some emerging recovery in our more market-sensitive events and transaction revenues which we have anticipated from the somewhat lower interest rate environment that we've seen.

Margin income was also resilient, down 3% in the moderating interest rate environment. But I think that demonstrates our limited exposure to short-term interest rate movements. So these things, combined with disciplined cost controls, we're able to drive operating leverage and expand EBIT margins across the group when we converted those earnings into over $700 million -- $780 million of free cash flow. And this cash flow enables us to invest in products and technology, enables us to balance -- strengthen our balance sheet and increase rewards to shareholders. On that point, the total dividend per share for financial year 2025 was a new high of AUD 0.93 per share, an increase of 13% over the prior year.

Look, I'm very pleased to say that this performance, the strong performance by Computershare is a direct result of our strategy that we've talked about over the past few years to simplify and focus our efforts on the core businesses of Issuer Services of Corporate Trust and of employee share plans. We've progressively disposed of noncore businesses. We've invested in technologies and deployed our capital very carefully, and we've kept our continued focus on managing our costs. And all of that gives us the returns and the balance sheet capacity to supplement organic growth with selective acquisitions that can bolster those returns.

The strategy is consistent, and that's the Computershare way. But of course, although having a clear strategy is very important, the really tough thing is delivering against the strategy, delivering consistently. And the Board has been really pleased to witness Computershare's consistent ability to deliver its goals, whether there be new product introductions, efficiency plans, new acquisitions or integrations, we tend to hit the plan, and that's the key thing. Our strong results really are founded on the determination, the hard work and the professionalism of Computershare's people right across the globe.

Now in our annual report, we lay out because we see here what ESG means for Computershare. Put simply, we understand and we really respect our social obligations. We aim as a company to do the right thing and support our employees, our clients and the communities in which we operate, and we're committed to using less carbon, to having greater diversity across our organization and contributing to communities. And we regularly assess our work against externally measured metrics.

And I'd like today to highlight one partnership where we think we are making a difference. The World Youth International School in Nepal, we supported this project for several years and with the aim of delivering improved education standards for 750 children each year. We've built a boarding houses to facilitate attendance. We've provided new school buses to transport students to school and supply computer and network infrastructure for the school. And next year, we're opening an IT college that will enable 50 students to enroll in a bachelor of IT program, which will fund the school's operating costs going forward. We also support several local charities across the communities in which Computershare is active in. So we're proud of that progress. We're proud of the commitments we make and the participation of our people. But as always, there is more we can do here.

So finally, let me close by reiterating how proud we are of this special company. And I'd like to thank Stuart Irving for his leadership, my Board and the fellow directors. the management team and colleagues right across the group for your hard work and commitment. Thank you for your contribution to Computershare's culture and performance. And thank you, our customers, our shareholders for your trust and your support.

And on that, I'll hand over to Stuart.

Thank you, Paul. It's always a great day to be here at our AGM. And I'd like to add my welcome to all our shareholders and guests. And as I said, it's always a very special day in the calendar for me. Now we do have some shareholders who are unable to attend today, but they've sent a couple of nice notes in. So please indulge me and I'll read one out. Now this one is from Mr. Chris Morris from Templestowe, now Gold Coast. It reads, "Keep going Irv, p.s. work harder, bigger dividends, please." Nice. And then we have another one here from Mr. Simon Jones from Elwood. "Miss you guys. Do you think the proxy advisers would classify me as independent now?" I'm not sure about that one. Anyway, lovely notes and appreciate it. Thank you.

Now as Paul touched on, FY '25 was another impressive year of growth and profitability for Computershare. After a sustained period of performance and the execution of our key strategies, let me talk a little bit about Computershare as it is today. Now Computershare today is really focused, high-quality capital-light business anchored around 3 core divisions: Issuer Services, Corporate Trust and Employee Share Plans. Now these businesses enjoy long-term customer engagements. They generate high-quality recurring fee revenues and are underpinned by positive industry growth trends. Now these are the majority of Computershare's revenues. Now some of our businesses also have event and transaction-based revenues such as corporate actions and whilst less predictable, they occur on a regular basis and enhance our earnings.

Now margin income, which is really the bank interest we receive as we distribute or hold client cash, also increases our revenues and is a consistent feature of our business model. And margin income also gives us that important flexibility in how we can price a service that better suits the client and delivers our required returns, and almost all of our businesses have some form of margin income element. Now importantly, these businesses can deliver strong returns through multiple economic cycles. They are built to endure. They are built on the same foundations, which is our world-class capabilities as a trusted, market-leading, technology-driven servicer of financial assets, and they are built to scale across major global markets.

Now this page -- moving on to really outlines what I would say is our key long-term value creation strategies at Computershare. Now our goal is really to deliver earnings growth through the cycles. Now many have commented on whether we can grow earnings in a declining interest rate environment. FY '25 was proof that we can do that and FY '26 will be more of the same. The growth in recurring fees as well as our transactional revenues and balanced hedging strategy really underpin that growth despite the reductions in interest rates.

Now another key strategy is really to improve the quality of our business, therefore, the consistency of earnings. Now one of the things that I really love is that there is a portfolio effect in Computershare, having many clients in many sectors and many markets provides an element of protection in a fast-moving and at times, uncertain business climate. Now we are also deepening our moats at Computershare. We're investing in new technologies and innovations to drive both growth and efficiencies across all parts of our businesses.

Now as you would know, we are and will remain a technology-focused company at heart. Another key value driver is our world-class capability in executing large and complex integrations and technology projects. Now that skill will continue to be critical going forward. Now these teams are really the unsung heroes of the group, and I really want to thank them for their long hours and commitment to completing these projects as planned.

Now we have a very enviable track record in that area. and that execution strength has really become a key competency across Computershare. And I think that it gives the Board great confidence as we consider new acquisitions and growth opportunities. Now our capital strength is also an advantage. We have a capital-light model. We have strong cash generation and we will maintain a robust balance sheet to support our business strength, but also to reward shareholders. So in conclusion, we have a clear plan to drive long-term value creation at Computershare.

Now moving on, let's just turn to the performance of the 3 core businesses: Issuer Services, Corporate Trust and Employee Share Plans. Now as Paul said earlier, pleasingly, each delivered revenue growth and higher earnings in FY '25. Now Issuer Services and -- Fiona Chalmers, who runs our issuer services globally is in the room here today. Now registered maintenance, which is one of our largest business within Issuer Services grew revenue by over 3%. EBIT increased over $450 million, and EBIT margins were broadly stable at 36%. We also saw increased activity across both issuer and shareholder paid fees. Corporate action revenues also increased nicely with higher average fees per deal, and that really helped drive the growth.

And at Computershare, we are starting to see the green shoots of increased IPO activity, particularly in Hong Kong, which has always been an important and attractive market for us as far as IPOs are concerned.

Now moving to corporate trust. I think that business really continues to strengthen. Last year, revenues increased by over 4%. EBIT was up over 7% and margins expanded by 140 basis points to almost 53%. Now we see a 10-year plus growth runway here. And whilst we remain patient for acquisition opportunities, we continue to make great progress building out our credentials and expanding our regulatory footprint to be ready for when the time arises.

And then Employee Share Plans, that delivered another impressive result. And Francis Catterall, who runs our Employee Share Plans business globally is also sitting. Nice to see you sitting next to Issuer Services and having the love in there. Fantastic. Now our employee share plans business, as I said, impressive results, 9% growth in revenues, 15% growth in EBIT and 25% growth in EBIT ex MI, it's a real success story when I reflect on that business. The success of the business is much more to do with our ability to execute the plan that Francis and I put in place 5, 6 years ago. And that's nothing to do with current equity market levels. We set out to enhance our technology, improve our customer offering and build scale and our initial plans were actually to deliver over $100 million of EBIT. I'm delighted to say that we've outperformed on every measure.

So where from here? Now we see long-term growth in equity being used in remuneration. We have some of the best tech in the market. Our assets under management are increasing, and we're winning market share. And I think they are great lead indicators of future growth.

Now moving on to the [indiscernible] slide. Let's see how our FY '25 and our performance really translates into shareholders' returns. Now over the past 3 years, Computershare has generated over $2 billion of cash flow, and that's U.S. dollars, not Aussie dollars. Now the capital expenditure costs to maintain our IT, hardware and office fits out are exceptionally low, particularly for a group of our size. Now it is important to differentiate our CapEx spend from our technology investments and our innovation. Now these technology investments are serious commitments at Computershare. Now we have close to 1,700 IT colleagues in the team. Now just quietly, we're one of the larger technology companies in Australia. And at Computershare, we've always respected the importance of dividends as well for our shareholders.

Now 2 years ago, in FY '23, we distributed some $244 million to shareholders. In FY '24, that number increased to $312 million. Now including the buyback, we returned $523 million to shareholders in FY '24. And in FY '25, the dividend increased to $334 million, and total returns, including the buyback were $613 million, a rise of 17% on the PCP.

Now our AUD 750 million buyback program to enhance returns is also now complete. And I would just say that under current Australian tax legislation, any future share buyback programs would not be a tax-efficient way to reward shareholders and therefore, unlikely in the short term. So as a result, the Board will review our dividend payout as we prepare for the February half year results.

But let's move now to this new financial year FY '26. It'd be fair to say that we've had a pleasing start to the new financial year. We're affirming full year earnings guidance. Back in August we said that management earnings per share is expected to be around $1.40 per share for the year, a lift of around 4% versus the PCP despite the lower interest rate environment. With 4 months trading under our belts, we have increased confidence in this guidance. We expect around 47% of earnings in the first half and the remainder in the second half. Now to date, what we are seeing is revenue ex MI is slightly up against our initial expectations. Corporate action activity is beginning to strengthen. Debt issuance volumes and corporate trust are improving and employee share plan trading is holding up.

Now importantly, the increase in activity levels is generating higher cash balances. Our average cash balances have increased to $30.6 billion, with most of that increase taking place in corporate trust. And although interest rates and therefore, yields are lower than we anticipated due to the timing of interest rate cuts, our guidance on margin income is still intact at around about $720 million. So there's a lot of detail on yields and balances in the slide pack that we put out today. We'll not go through it here in the room. But I will also remind you that it's very early in the financial year, and Nick and I will be providing further updates in February at our half year results.

But let's move beyond short-term earnings guidance and really focus on some of the topics that will shape Computershare's next chapter of growth. Now these are topics that we are evaluating and considering as we put in place foundations for enduring performance through cycles. I'm pleased to share this longer-term perspective. Now recently, we have been working with the crypto task force within the SEC securities regulator in the U.S. Now this regulator has been charged with the mandate to provide practical policies and clear rules of the road for the issuance of custody and trading of crypto assets and also continuing to discourage some of the bad actors from violating the laws in this space. Now as a market leader in the security space in the U.S., Computershare does have a seat at that table when discussing important issues such as the tokenization of equity.

Computershare supports these promising advancements. But we prioritize the need to protect the corporate issuer stability, preserve investor choice and most importantly, maintain the integrity, confidence, trust and predictability in U.S. financial markets. And working on behalf of our issuer clients, we do support issuer sponsored tokens as a secure form of ownership for shareholders. Now these tokens would have complete rights and benefits of registered ownerships. And we would like to see tokenized derivative securities issued by third parties over a custody holding and the listed issuers of securities really be distinguished from the listed issuer of themselves and their securities with clearly different ISEs and stock codes and include very specific disclosures for investors against the nature of their ownership rights and also security terms.

But as you can see, we are deeply involved in policy shaping and we believe that there will be long-term positive opportunities here for Computershare. But there is a super long way to go on this. and these issues are complex because financial markets are complex. But as of our Computershare intend to stay at the forefront of this innovation. Another area of focus for the group is around quality of earnings.

As we near the end of our acquisition integrations and large-scale cost-out programs, you will see that group management adjustments to earnings will decline sharply. These adjustments should drop in FY '26 versus the PCP and reduce again the year after. And they will be largely eliminated by the end of FY '27. So just as we focus on growth and the consistency of our earnings, shareholders will begin to see the quality will continue to improve, too.

Now a question I get asked quite a lot, let's discuss your acquisition pipeline. Now at Computershare, we have a clear list of the assets that we would like to acquire, and we're proactively in dialogue with vendors, but I will promise you that as a company, we will remain disciplined to make sure we buy the right assets at the right price. Any other course of action is likely to destroy shareholder value. Now at Computershare, we have a very strong track record of acquisitions, and we take that commitment very, very seriously. So I say to all shareholders, please be patient and good things will come.

Now last year, on the 30th anniversary of our listings on the ASX, I talked about the next 30 years of growth and the opportunity for our group. Now that's not just idle talk. Within the group, we are reviewing our technologies, we're looking at our regulatory approvals and structures as well as our organizational capabilities from the top down to really deliver the next chapter of growth at Computershare. But what does that actually include?

Well, it's going to be the safe deployment of AI across the organization and a refresh of back office platforms to drive scale and efficiencies. We're establishing new regulated entities across multiple jurisdictions to improve our positioning as an acquirer of assets in these locations. And we're also assessing our capabilities and our capacity across the group to deliver that next chapter of growth. Now they truly, truly are exciting times here at Computershare.

So in conclusion, we will continue to build a high-quality computer share that endures. As I said, a business that can perform and deliver superior returns across multiple cycles, a business built on trust, technology, long-standing client relationships and execution capability. But how do we measure this? Well, through the cycle, this capital-light Computershare should be able to deliver 30% EBIT margins and 25% return on invested capital, excluding M&A. We generate positive cash flow and we'll maintain a strong balance sheet, and we'll continue to invest in our businesses and reward shareholders. Now it just remains for me to say a huge thank you to all the Computershare team for all their contributions and also to our customers and our shareholders for your trust and your support.

And with that, I'll hand back to Paul. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Stuart. It's a great run through. Look, I said at the start of the meeting, we'll answer all questions at some time -- at the same time, once all of the items of business and proxy positions have been presented. And we'll be starting those questions shortly. So let's now run through the formal items of business. The first item of business relates to the tabling of the company's financial reports for the year ended 30th of June 2025. If you have any questions concerning the financial statements of the company or have a question for the company's auditor, we will address them during the Q&A session, which will commence shortly.

So I'll now proceed with the resolutions to be considered. Any undirected proxy votes given to the Chairman on Resolutions 3 and 4 will be voted in favor of the relevant resolutions. Voting will remain open, as I said, during the resolutions and I'll provide you with a notice when the polls are about to close. We'll move to consider the second item of business, now being the reelection of our Director, Tiffany Fuller. Tiffany is due to retire from office and being eligible presents herself for reelection. The Board, in the absence of Tiffany Fuller unanimously supports her reelection. And before we move this resolution, Tiffany will say a few words in support of her election. Tiffany.

Thank you, Chairman, and good morning, everyone. It's been a privilege to serve as the Director of Computershare and I seek your reelection today. I bring over a decade of top 50 public and private board experience across financial services, technology and transformation, funds management, property and consumer underpinned by deep financial stewardship, strategy, governance and risk management expertise. I've chaired the audit and audit risk committees on all boards. This background has enabled me to contribute a disciplined analytical and independent perspective to board discussion. I've had a multidisciplinary executive career across -- with developed skills across accounting and corporate finance banking and treasury, M&A, consulting and investment disciplines.

I'm a qualified chartered accountant and a fellow of the Institute of Company Directors. As many of you will know, I recently chaired the Group Risk and Audit Committee for a number of years, which has given me broad and deep insight into the global business through a period of material change and growth. This role is now in the very capable hands of John Nendick as part of orderly Board succession planning. As Irv said, Computershare is emerging from a high-change agenda, driven by a number of material acquisitions in plans and corporate finance and major transformation programs across technology, finance and treasury, which I have been close to through my committee role. With a strong balance sheet and strategic optionality together with opportunities for advancement in product and operational efficiency, the company has a positive outlook for ongoing growth, which I believe my deep corporate knowledge and skills can continue to contribute to.

I remain deeply passionate about Computershare as an outstanding Australian success story and one that has delivered over the long term for shareholders by staying disciplined about strategy and expertly leveraging its core competencies and technology capabilities globally. I will continue to bring my experience, integrity and energy in supporting what is an extremely high-quality management team and a company with an enviable corporate culture, one I'm proud to be associated with. Thank you for your time today.

Thanks, Tiffany. So I now move the reelection of Tiffany Fuller as a Director of the company. The resolution and a summary of the votes received before the meeting now appears on the screen.

The next resolution relates to the adoption of the company's remuneration report. The Corporations Act requires a resolution to adopt the remuneration report is put to the vote at the AGM. The vote is advisory only and will not bind the company or the directors. The report sets out the policy for the remuneration of the directors, the CEO and other designated senior executives. It includes information on how remuneration is structured as well as the quantum for the period ended 30th of June 2025.

Noting that each director has a personal interest in their own remuneration from the company, the directors recommend that shareholders vote in favor of adopting the remuneration and report. So I move the adoption of the remuneration report. The resolution and a summary of the votes received before the meeting now appears on the screen.

Okay. The next resolution is to approve a grant of performance rights to the CEO, Stuart Irving, under the terms of the company's long-term incentive plan. Approval is requested from shareholders under the ASX Listing Rules to authorize the company to grant equity securities to the CEO under an employee incentive scheme and details of the terms of issue of the equity securities are set out in the notice of the meeting. The Board, in the absence of Stuart Irving, unanimously supports the grant of performance rights to the CEO. I now move the grant of performance rights to the CEO. The resolution and a summary of the votes received before the meeting now appears on the screen.

Okay. That concludes. Now I have tabled all the items of business to be considered at the meeting. We'll open the meeting up to questions. I think Dominic will receive some questions from shareholders in advance of the meeting, which I'll address first.

That's correct. The first question we received was from shareholders, William and Robin Moxie. They said, "I am a New Zealand shareholder and note you have a New Zealand subsidiary. Why do you not pass on New Zealand imputation credits to dividends paid to New Zealand shareholders. New Zealand imputation credits are similar to franking credits in Australia."

Yes. So thanks for the question, William and Robin. We do indeed have a New Zealand subsidiary, and we do have the capacity to accumulate New Zealand imputation credits. That is, however, a really small part of our global footprint. So our credit balance is negligible at this stage when considered against our shareholder register. However, we will continue to monitor this, and if we accumulate sufficient credits, we'll take a further look.

Thank you. We've then got 2 questions from shareholder, Natasha Lee. The first of these is, first, I would like to congratulate the Board and the team for outstanding results. While the business is highly reliant on the U.S. operations, which generates 56% of revenues and 50% -- 57% of EBITDA, the outlook is dependent on U.S. interest rate cuts that first happened in October. Apart from interest rate cuts, the political situation in the U.S. is becoming increasingly concerning. How is the company managing these risks and to what extent has this been factored into the outlook?

Thanks, Natasha. I mean, firstly, thanks for the congratulations. I mean, the Board clearly agrees with you on the performance that we've set out today. But your question is about looking forward. And Stuart set out the outlook, and we've reaffirmed our guidance for our financial year '26 of management EPS of around $1.40 per share. And that guidance takes into account the interest rate cuts that we've already seen as well as further cuts that we anticipate and have been forecast over the rest of the year. So we anticipate those cuts as we make the plan and make the guidance. So already taken into account.

And as for the broader outlook, the U.S. is a major market for us, obviously, and we pay an awful lot of attention. But the good news, again, Stuart talked about it, is that corporate activity is beginning to strengthen in the States. Debt issuance and corporate trust is improving, and that's all helping contribute to a positive outlook. So guidance affirmed -- question noted, guidance affirmed, we take into account, we're very, very careful about all the market signals that we can bank on and factoring those into our forecast.

Thank you. The next question from Natasha Lee is with only 2 female nonexecutive directors, this represents around 28% of the Board, which is below best practice of 40%. Will the Board commit to achieving at least 40% female representation. And in addition, the Board lacks diversity in other areas, and I ask the Board to commit to improving other forms of diversity on the Board.

Look, it's a good question, Natasha. Thank you. You may have spotted that one of our directors Lisa Gay unexpectedly resigned for personal reasons earlier this year. And when that happens, your ratios go up and down just overnight. So we moved our female representation from just under 40% to just under 30%. Our stated board commitment is to have female representation of at least 30% as we confirmed in our corporate governance statement, and we certainly expect to be back in excess of that point by the end of this financial year.

And diversity more broadly, we aim to recruit the very best from all the talent pools available, the widest talent pool possible. And we utilize our recruitment process, that's structured to provide a level playing field from whatever gender, sex, race is present. So we think we have a very fair approach to doing the right thing in recruitment and getting the right balance. Dom, any more?

That's it from questions before the meeting. We have had a few online.

Well, should we do that or in the room first?

We can do the room first.

Anyone attending here in person who wishes to ask a question. Stuart?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With the sale of the U.K. mortgage services business, do you -- does this mean that Computershare will completely remove themselves from that area? Or are there some other business components in that sphere that need to be addressed?

Okay. Well, I think maybe we should hear from Stuart, the other Stuart. Do you want to answer that one?

Thanks for the question. Yes, we sold our U.S. mortgage services business last year, and we recently announced the sale of our U.K. mortgage business. That hasn't closed yet. I anticipate that to close sometime in the first half of 2026, subject to regulatory approval. And at that stage, as far as mortgage servicing is concerned, we're completely out of it. So not a core business, and it's gone.

Any other questions in the room? Well, you've got the microphone?

Yes, I have. [indiscernible] So I can't see without my glasses on. Can you please comment on the role of communication services and utilities operations will play into the future? Or is it seen as an overall business unit for growth? Or is it seen as a service type industry?

It's probably good to know a little bit about the history of Computershare Communication Services and a big part of that history is sitting 2 seats along to you on the left with Mr. Dick Kirby, who is -- Computershare bought the business that Dick was CFO in the '90s. And the reason being is Computershare obviously distributes a lot of shareholder communications. And we were using third-party companies to do the mailing and the distribution of that. And we were having quality issues. And so in the '90s, we acquired a portion of a business called Chelsea Images and Dick worked there along with another couple of partners. And we subsequently acquired all of that, and that became essentially our print mail and digital communication platform for Computershare all around the world.

So as Computershare expanded around the world, the communication services operation did. It's one of the businesses that I love because it still has sort of big factories and warehouses with complicated machinery and envelope insertion thing. That's fantastic. It's worth a visit. But it's core because 50% of the revenues roughly is work that it does for the rest of the Computershare group, but we also provide services to commercial customers. So we run it as its own business unit internally, but it doesn't have its own segment reporting due to the size compared to Issuer Services, Corporate Trust.

But it is -- I've always been a big supporter because it gives us a significant competitive advantage because shareholder employee data does not leave Computershare to a third party. It's all maintained securely within there. And another [indiscernible] Mark McDougall is sitting at the back of the room, one of my technologists, actually runs entire division. So after the meeting, if you want to know more about that business, go and noise up, Mark.

My question is I presume that your risk analysis has factored in the implications of artificial intelligence on the future actions of the company. Can you give shareholders an idea of the future of AI and Computershare?

Stuart again.

Yes. Look, I touched on AI a little bit in the opening preamble for the meeting there. And it's a very interesting technology. It's -- I think there's brilliant marketing people behind it because that's all you read about. And -- but like many other technologies that have come, it will present an opportunity to build new products, enhance services for our customers, reduce the cost to serve, automate things. But again, it has to be rolled out and -- because there's lots of fear around AI and lots of sort of misunderstood things around AI.

But Computershare, we've always been a fast adopter of technology. We'll do it in a very measured approach across the entire group and look for ways to use the tech to become sort of more efficient, but just as importantly to drive revenues and create new products. So look, I don't think you'll find 50% of the heads are out because AI has come in, like you might read about in the press, but it will certainly be a very useful tool for our business leads to create new products, drive new revenues as well as do things more efficiently. So that's how we view AI. Obviously, there's concerns around the governance and data, et cetera, and we take that governance of our clients' data very, very seriously as well. So we'll not be shooting that all out into the wonderful world of the cloud and allowing everyone to access to it, I'm going to assure you. But yes, it's a very interesting tech. We've already got some AI deployments in Computershare live, and we'll continue to do so over the coming years as it progresses.

Any more questions, Stuart? Any more questions in the room? Anybody? Dom, online?

We've got 4 questions from shareholders, Stephen Mayne. I'll start with the first one. When I buy a range of Computershare managed companies in quick succession to attend AGMs, you send me a separate welcome to the company notice in the snail mail for each company. When the same thing happens with Atomic managed companies, they often send a single envelope with welcome forms from multiple companies. From an environmental efficiency and client cost point of view, shouldn't we be doing what Atomic does or do our systems not allow for aggregated mailed communications across multiple companies?

That's one for you, Stuart.

Great question, Stephen. I hope you're listening online. At Computershare, we have a number of clients who are very, very engaged with their retail shareholders, and they want to sell and customize deliveries out when people become new shareholders. So they don't want just a generic welcome to update your e-mail across multiple companies. They want to create a very personalized experience for that particular issuer.

So as a result, we tend to keep them separate because these packs, it's not a Computershare-driven thing. It's basically at the behest of the client about what they want to do. Look, I take your point. I mean, obviously, less mailings would be better, although our communications division might argue about that, Mark McDougall at the back there. But look, I take your point about those that are doing the generic one, but that's how typically and historically why it's been a little bit separated out at Computershare.

Thank you. The next question from Stephen Mayne is I used to enjoy the videos getting stuck into Broadridge, which fellow Templestow Boy turned letter writer, Chris Morris played at Computershare AGMs more than a decade ago. These days, Broadridge is a public company valued at USD 25.9 billion, and we're doing fabulously well with a market cap of $20.3 billion. Is it right that we are the 2 biggest gorillas in the broader global securities transfer and management market? What regulatory protections do Broadridge still have, which we regard as unfair and who has the power to fix this?

Broadridge and Computershare do very, very different things. If you had a Venn diagram, there's a little bit of overlap as far as U.S. transfer agency services. Look, Broadridge is an incredibly impressive organization. They provide a lot of back-office technology to the brokerage and custodian community, an area or a business line that we're just not in at all. But one of the things that they still do and have a strong market share is the structure of shareholder ownership in the U.S. means what they call the street names. So individuals who hold shares at brokerage firms, so to speak, and Broadridge provide meeting services for these shareholders where we don't. We only provide meeting services for the registered shareholders or voting services.

So yes, we've kind of popped up against them over time because they have a very sort of a strong market share in that street name there. I think with new regulations and technologies, and I was seeing -- just watching CNBC when I woke up this morning and arguments about transparency and voting and proxy advisers and all that type of stuff. But look, they're a strong competitor. As far as legislation that would have to change. There's something very technical about objecting beneficial owners, which means the companies can't see who the underlying shareholders are, it's all sort of deeply embedded in U.S. market structure. But you never know, maybe some of this tokenization of equities will shake some of that out.

The next question is, thank you for disclosing the proxy position earlier to the ASX, along with the formal addresses allowing for a more fully informed AGM debate. The only material protest vote was 9.6% against the reelection of Tiffany Fuller. Was this driven by a proxy adviser against recommendation? And if so, what was the issue? Also, will you continue with the excellent practice you adopted after last year's AGM and disclose the headcount data with the poll results so that retail voter shareholder sentiment is made public and we can better understand how much retail participation has fallen since the move away from paper after COVID. These best practices -- best practice AGM disclosures are really helpful in terms of driving this practice across the market. So well done, and thank you for that.

So was that a question...

I mean I can answer the second one. We'll be disclosing the head count results after the meeting. So we will continue with that practice. The first question was around the proxy adviser positions against the reelection of Tiffany Fuller.

Look, what just relates to Tiffany, we got a qualification from one of the advisers due to Tiffany servicing more than 9 years on the Board, along with the same CEO. And from a Computershare perspective, Paul and the rest of the Board assessed Tiffany's independence and are very satisfied with her independence. So that was really why there was that qualification. I don't think there's anything to worry about from that regard. It's just a qualification. I would agree that Tiffany is very much an independent and one of our hardest working Board members, and you got to have a view about whether you agree with all this tenure stuff. But I think Tiffany has been a fabulous Director for Computershare over the years. Observation.

That's certainly the view of the Board emphatically, Tiffany's fabulous director, continues to deliver. and always. And I think anyone who's listening to that CV couldn't help but be impressed. Thanks, Tiffany. Dom anymore?

One final question from Stephen. Our all Scottish leadership team at Computershare has been in place for the past 3 years, and Stuart Irving has been CEO since 2014. Well done for once again serving up a well-structured LTI grant for Stuart that has been supported by more than 98% of the directed proxy votes. I'm just curious as to which of our Scottish leaders is likely to exit first. And whether the LTI structure makes it very expensive for Stuart to retire. Not that there is any rush for either Stuart or Paul to exit given the company is performing so well and is genuinely one of the 5 best Australian companies in terms of carving out a successful global business that the country can be proud of.

Well, thank you, Stephen. I think a complimentary and mischievous question, all in one. But yes, we have worked well together. Stuart and I are Scotsman for a few years now. Hopefully, the results of the business as we announced today speak for themselves. But we do very honestly engage in Board evolution planning, and we have been over this week. And in due course, we all move on. But no immediate plans there, but we certainly take the subject and the planning there of very seriously indeed. Dom, any more?

That concludes, I think, 4 questions. Yes.

Okay. Well, as there are no further questions, that concludes the questions section of the meeting. I would like to advise that voting on all resolutions will close shortly. And I'll provide you with a few moments to allow you to finish voting. We see some cards being filled in, in the room, Let's wait for all the cards to be collected. Okay. If you're in the room, these are going to be collected and now done. Thank you. Can we move on, please? Voting is now closed. The final results will be advised to the ASX and also made available on Computershare's website after the meeting. Thanks all for your attendance. As the business of the meeting is now completed, I declare the meeting closed. Thank you very much.