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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for the Q3 2026 Investor and Analyst Q&A session following the speeches this morning. My name is Stefan Richmann, and I'm Senior Vice President, Group Treasury and Investor Relations. With me are our Chief Executive Officer, Milan Nedeljkovic, as well as our Chief Financial Officer, Walter Mertl. We are happy to take your questions.

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[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Tim Rokossa at Deutsche Bank.

I have 2 questions, please. The first one is on the portfolio element of the additional measures that you announced last night. I don't think that's something that anyone really expected from our side. Can you help us understand the financial effect of this a bit better? Theoretically, I would assume that it makes the Gen 5 models that you're still selling a little bit more profitable? And Gen 6 is obviously more accretive anyway, should be supportive for your margin. Is that helping you on the EBIT margin next year, Walter? Is that an effect that you feel? Or is it too small to actually be worthwhile to quantify for us?

And secondly, I guess to you, Milan, can we come back to something that you mentioned at the CMD and that was also asked about on the press call. I don't want to ask you again what exactly the business opportunity is on AI that you have in mind. But in your mind, is this something that can be as important as rivaling the car business for you guys in terms of revenues or profit? Or is this more like something that we should think about as an additional smaller segment/revenue opportunity?

Thank you very much for your questions. The first question, where you focused on the topics of Gen 5 and Gen 6, I will pass it on to Walter and then following up with Milan on the business opportunity on AI. Walter, please.

Pleased to meet all of you again after the Capital Market Day, where we explained our journey towards the next few months. And yesterday was just 1 milestone again. So we discussed further opportunities, further possibilities to enhance our business going forward, especially the profitability going forward. And as a lot of these structural measures we implemented have been working really good and fast, we just decided yesterday to do the second step again. Earlier is better than later, as we discussed at the Capital Market Day. So everything is contributed to better positive profitability in the future. How much is a question of the topic. But in principle, everything helps. And that's how we dealt with. And we are not detailing all these differentiations of this further 1.25 EBIT points, which we are utilizing for, should this question come later.

And, Tim, you're referencing to the Capital Market Day when we did talk about AI and the opportunities of AI. And as mentioned before, BMW has significant competence in AI. And we can see that especially focusing on industrial AI, we have developed skills which are remarkable. So based on these facts and the fact that we are intensifying cooperations in multiple fields, there are options, opportunities for the future where we can see some leveraging of our competencies which are beyond the classic car business. But not to raise expectations too much, we are not talking of the second element, which would be that significant to somehow neglect the car business. So we are just focusing on our competencies, and we are looking for synergies. And let's see how they will develop.

That's quite clear. Can I just follow up then on, Walter, your answer? You were quoted on Bloomberg saying that the accelerated restructuring and additional measures suggest that the 3% to 5% 2028 target could be achieved earlier. Is that the right quotation that you want us to leave this call with? Or did you just say that the cost cuts are obviously accelerating and we will have to see whatever that means, just to make sure that we get the right message?

Thanks for asking again. I didn't -- I don't think that I mentioned it like that, just confirmed our 3% to 5% in 2028 auto EBIT margin. And I mentioned all these measures are supportive to achieve that. That's it. And going forward, everything which we can do faster and quicker to execute is good for the future. That's what I mentioned. That's what -- at least I mentioned that in Germany.

The next question is from José Asumendi at JPMorgan.

Two questions, please. Walter, can you comment, please, on the expected restructuring cash outflows in 2026 and 2027 as well as any of the P&L benefits we should expect in '27 or some of the estimates you could share? I know this is an ongoing process, obviously.

And Milan, can you talk a little bit about, please, the Chinese market, latest developments you're seeing in the last months and whether you are happy with the existing capacity and the production run rates? Or do you think you need to do further adjustments down to get ready for '27?

Good morning to London, José, and thank you for your questions. And indeed, as you proposed, first one going to Walter with regards to cash outflows '26, '27 and potential P&L benefits. And the second one then with regard to China, that will go to Milan. Walter, please.

José, well, I'm not talking so much about '27, of course, not. But this year, we confirmed our EUR 2.5 billion free cash flow. And I just would like to stress at this position that because some of you recognize we also adjusted our volume guidance. By adjusting this volume guidance, we wouldn't have had to go ad hoc. We confirmed with this ad hoc, a, that we have an operational EBIT margin of more than 2%, and we confirmed our free cash flow for '26 of more than EUR 2.5 billion. That's, first of all, the statement. We only went ad hoc because of the special measures of this intensification and this expansion of our portfolio and structural measures. That's first of all.

So that means this year, we will have 2.5 EBIT points of this restructuring processes. Of course, that means in the quarter, more or less 10%, right? So 2.5% for the full year is more or less 10% in the quarter. We shouldn't forget this. And, of course, that should have positive effects into '27. And that's a clear message. And all about the effects in '27, we will elaborate in March. Thank you.

And José, thanks for the question for the Chinese market. As you know, the Chinese market is dynamic and volatile. And this year, we have been surprised by the dip in the second quarter, which led to the first change of our guidance. And the dip at that time was primarily for the ICEs, which was nearly up to 40% in 1 month comparing it to the previous year and also comparing it to the month before.

So we expected this year to be more consistent on ICEs. What we see is the ICE dipped significantly. The whole market is going down by more than 20%, and we are affected as well. However, the last months, we could maintain a good level, and we are now gaining market shares in the ICE segment, which, at the end of the day, is a good message looking on to our brand strength.

At the same time, it shows the necessity for electrification and the ramp-up of the Gen 6. The first market launch we had now with the iX3 and i3 presentations there do show significant positive impact. And we gained very positive feedback from customers, but also from journalists. And they see our tech stack to be highly competitive, and we are surprising the Chinese market with the technologies we are offering. So we see a good momentum now to add to our ICE portfolio, the Gen 6 products and with that to stabilize our volume for the next year.

The next question is from Henning Cosman at Barclays.

The first one, Stefan, I'll let you allocate it, but it's probably for Walter. On the underlying margin in Q4, excluding the one-offs, right, at the midpoint, it implies about a 0% exit rate or so. So I appreciate the calculation of the underlying on the full year being still above 5%, but I'm just above 2%. But I'm just wondering what the difference is to the Q4 -- implied Q4 exit margin. Is that all seasonality? Or is there anything else in there? Or what's really the underlying rate we should assume despite the implied 0% in Q4 at the midpoint? That's the first question. I hope that's clear.

And then on China, again, sorry to come back to that. Could you just remind us again of your absolute volume assumption now, the normalized volume assumption you're budgeting with for the midterm plan? Because Mercedes obviously just announced basically another Capital Market Day to reset the China assumptions again in the context of the further deterioration they've seen over the last few months. So if you could just explicitly confirm that you stand by your basically stable assumptions. But for those who might disagree with that assessment, could you just talk a bit about the sensitivity of your EBIT and free cash flow to these China volumes if they were lower? Could you just give us some comfort that the sensitivity to those China volumes isn't actually very high even if they were to come in below your assessment?

Henning, thanks very much for your 2 questions. I will give the first one, indeed, as you assumed, to Walter with regard to the underlying margin in Q4 to run us through the individual steps in that calculation. And then afterwards, if it's fine with you, I will answer your second question on the volume assumption regarding China.

Henning, well, the underlying margin, you saw if you take out this one-off effect in Q3, for example, with our supplier, which everyone knows about, it would have been 2.1% in Q3. And you know also that it was 2.3% in Q2. Forget about Q1 because there was also a slight different situation with the sales mix.

Now moving into Q4. Of course, we have, from a seasonality point of view, always a slightly better margin in Q1 and a slightly lower margin in Q4. That is the usual seasonality in our business. Some of that is with stock management and the other element is fixed cost seasonality. These ones are always rather weighing on our Q4 EBIT margins, and you see that. So -- but that means usually, it will be something around 0 or 1 because we run on a range and not on a dot, but it will be again low in Q4. We could assume that.

And of course, don't forget the extra 1.25% margin, which we will utilize for our portfolio and structural measures. But that is a number on the full year. So that means more or less 5% weigh in the quarter 4 on top of the other more or less 5%, which we mentioned already beforehand. That's why I mentioned to Jose that we will have with this 2.5 EBIT points full year effect, more or less 10% EBIT hit in the quarter 4. And the underlying business is more or less in this area plus what you statistically calculated.

And picking up on the China question, Henning, I would like to come back to the conversation that we had during our Capital Market Day on the 29th of September with regards to volume assumptions in China. We've clearly stated back then that we will not make any similar volume assumptions on China as we have done in the year 2025. Of course, I'm happy to refer to actual figures, where it's obvious that we are in the 30s on a monthly volume run rate going up and down, but in the corridor in the 30s for the last couple of months.

But all of that is before the launch of the iX3 at the end of this month. And as we pointed out also earlier in the media call, for us, that is an opportunity to enter into a segment where we have not been present for the last couple of months. But we will not make any statement with regards to volume assumptions. And with that position, I would also say we are part of the vast majority of the automotive industry, not making any statements on future volume assumptions in China right now. It is simply too volatile.

And maybe on a last note, with regards to sensitivity, it is well stressed in the media call, and I think you also mentioned just before, we would not have gone ad hoc based on our statement on the volume guidance for this year. I think that clearly shows that in some ways, sensitivity is also limited.

The next question is from Stuart Pearson at Oxcap Analytics.

Yes, 2 question areas. So just firstly, on the downgrade, I obviously appreciate the incremental restructuring. But just on the underlying side, obviously, on the volumes, a slight downgrade on the margins. As much as it's maybe not huge depending on, I guess, the starting point, I mean, something does seem to have got worse in the last 5 weeks since the CMD or at least that's what I see, not just looking at what you're saying, but what we've heard from other companies and even companies like Polestar delaying their results for us last night. So perhaps you can reassure us that the industry isn't deteriorating much quicker than we thought. And I don't just mean in China, I mean U.S. and Europe as well. So it just feels like something has changed here that perhaps we're not focusing enough attention on. So maybe just a comment on that.

And then, on the free cash flow side, the guidance, just -- I mean, how much of the, I guess, the EUR 1.8 billion plus you expect to get in Q4 is dependent on this tariff collection from the U.S.? I think that was a high 3-digit amount. What's your confidence on collecting that? And then I guess, looking into 2027, I know you probably can't quantify it, but just the various tailwinds and headwinds we might want to think about free cash flow next year. I guess R&D is still down a significant amount, what you do on the product probably doesn't change that, but there will be some cash out for restructuring. So just any puts and takes on next year's free cash flow as well.

Stuart, thank you very much for your questions. On the third one, I would say we will indeed not quantify anything. Obviously, we'll be doing that mid of March of next year when we talk about the 2027 guidance. Qualitatively, I'll leave it up to Walter, whether he wants to address it. I think it's much more relevant with regards to the first 2 questions. I will hand both to Walter. First one, I have to admit, if we understood it correctly, you're wondering whether anything significant has changed in our assumptions with regards to the different regions in the world since the CMD in September. And then the second one was about free cash flow impact and how confident we are on the tariff reimbursement and whether it plays a relevant role in free cash flow. Walter?

Well, it has not changed dramatically or significantly on our operational side. That's why we also mentioned in the ad hoc, which is usually unusual, that we are not just guiding a new EBIT margin range, but we also stress our operation business. And our operational EBIT margin, we said is better than 2% in conjunction with the EUR 2.5 billion free cash flow, which is unchanged to June's guidance. So we cannot see that we have further deteriorations on the margins, let's say.

And with respect to free cash flow, dedicated to the free cash flow, of course, there is, as we always mentioned, a tariff included, a tariff reimbursement included. We filed all these relevant topics by end of September. And usually, we have 90 days of payment terms with the state, and we would assume that they are sticking to the payment terms. Usually, we'd rather get it within 50. And that is a part of this total, of course, as always stated. Many thanks.

The next question is from Patrick Hummel at UBS.

Both probably to Walter. The first one is with regards to the dividend. If I interpret what you said correctly, there is some willingness on your end to look through those one-offs when it comes to determining the dividend for this year. So is it fair to say that there could be a situation in which based on the reported EPS that you're going to have for the full year, the payout ratio might even be slightly above 40%? That's a very simple question.

And the second one, which is maybe a little bit more complex to answer with all the moving parts on the cost front, commodities, et cetera. But now that you say you're bringing forward or expanding the fixed cost saves from your German overhead exercise, are you confident that going into next year, those savings will be larger than the inflationary pressures you're going to see on the input cost side so that basically the entire cost block would become a positive bridge item next year?

Patrick, thank you very much for your questions. First one on dividends. Indeed, you're right, Walter. And the second one, I think the general question of whether the expansion of our measures will lead to fixed cost savings that overcompensate any potential inflationary pressure, obviously, also going to Walter, please.

Patrick, yes, you heard it correctly on the dividend side that we are considering this extra impact of our portfolio and structural measures. And we think about -- and we can't, of course, mention anything whether we have a different payout ratio or whatever because that will be decided in February, but we have a clear understanding that we take it, of course, serious and we have a dedicated thought about these one-offs, if you may say so, definitely.

And with respect to expanding fixed cost savings, we have our clear plan how to reduce our fixed cost going forward. And this is extra measures that should also pay into account that we have this further chance to realize fixed cost savings. All that together should support our profit ambition of 3% to 5% in '28 and whatever helps in '27 helps in '27 and which numbers we give for '27 is March. Many thanks, Patrick.

The next question is from Michael Tyndall at HSBC.

I guess there's a couple. Can you help me a little bit to understand? You seem very reticent to talk about the details of these actions in terms of magnitude, the split between 1 side and the other. Could you just help us understand why that reticence? And then within that, I mean, is there any impact on suppliers with regards to the portfolio adjustment? Have you already had those negotiations?

And then the second one is on the cash flow and the cash flow walk. There's a very big item under the umbrella of other, which was said to be reversals of the positives in Q2. I wonder if you can help us understand what happens to those in Q4? Do we get another reversal? I mean, or are we done? It's just a timing issue, what happened in Q2 reversed in Q3, and we're back to a more even progress.

Mike, thank you very much for your questions. I will hand both to Walter with regards to the magnitude and also the level of information that we're disclosing on the content of what we're doing. And then second, on the cash flow walk, understandably some more information asked with regards to Q2 compared to Q3. Walter, please go ahead.

Mike, well, you know how we deal at BMW with details of actions. We rather deal with internally, discuss with our partners rather than explaining something externally straight away. And we are in the discussion phase internally. And once we have finalized everything, we will disclose. So -- and currently, it's not the time to speak about externally.

And with respect to the cash flow, yes, in Q3, there was this happening what I mentioned already in Q2. In Q2, we had this other extraordinary positive effect. That's all about timing topics. And I mentioned that in Q2 already that this will reverse in Q3, and it did reverse in Q3. And that means also in Q4, as I mentioned in my speech, we rather have a working capital element, which is changing. And of course, the tariffs, which also was questioned before from Stuart. So these elements are the big ones in Q4.

And the others, I wouldn't assume big differences as you saw in Q3 as well as in Q2. And these are definitely timing differentiations, especially if you speak about what is happening on the production side and what is happening on the sales side. And there was a differentiation, especially in Q2 and Q3, which ended up in this big changes on the cash flow rather not seen on the EBIT side. So that's the whole story short. And we are not focusing on the few quarters, as you do know, but we focus on a full year free cash flow position. I hope that helps, Mike. Thank you.

The next question is from Horst Schneider at Bank of America.

The first one is for Milan. It's a more strategic question. Milan, when I was at the Paris Auto Show, I'm still impressed by the Chinese premium offer. And I think the focus in Paris was on premium vehicles from the Chinese OEMs. In that context, I know that you are not yet offering LFP vehicles under the BMW brand in Europe. But every carmaker keeps stressing that the LFP battery vehicles are more profitable. So when I look at China, you offer the LFP version RMB 30,000 below basically the NMC battery version.

Wouldn't that also be an option for Europe to offer maybe LFP battery versions under the BMW brand in order to make the product even more affordable, but at the same time, you can maybe also increase your profit per vehicle? So maybe a more strategic comment on that would be appreciated.

Maybe more question for Walter, that is on -- and simple question is basically on residual values. Audi has brought that up that the ICE residual values, they start weakening. It's a risk going forward to say that they need to depreciate something. I think you were more confident at the CMD about that item. Has anything changed? That's a simple question.

Horst, thank you for the 2 questions. Definitely the right allocation with regards to China or your impression of Chinese premium offers in Paris and the question on LFP. I will hand that to Milan first. And then afterwards, Walter will make a statement on our position on RVs right now. Milan, please?

Horst, concerning your question towards the battery technologies we are using. Well, as you know, with Neue Klasse, we are starting with the NMC technology and the cylindrical batteries. And this technology is now superior in the market. We see that our range we can offer with the iX3 and the i3 are deeply impressing also in China, and that's why we start on that level.

At the same time, and you're right, the LFP technology offers a different cost structure, but also different range. So we will add the LFP technology in our vehicles, but we will be very specific in which vehicle and for which purpose. And so it will come, but it will not be a generic exchange or generic offer in all segments.

Horst, yes, that's right. We also see a slight deterioration on the ICE residual values, but we expect that to happen. We always mentioned also at the CMD that this will come down and we will have less positive results than in previous years. That is crystal clear.

On the other side, we shouldn't forget that on the EV side, the returners have also a better performance than 6 months ago. So since February, we recognize that the EV residual value position is performing better. And this is also contributing then, of course. And of course, everything is depending on the region. So even in the U.S., we see a positive used car price trend across ICE and EVs, and you have different ones in the U.K. as well as in Germany. But in principle, in the world, yes, ICE is coming slightly down and EV is stabilizing and in some markets, even elevating positively.

The next question is from Philippe Houchois at Jefferies International. [Operator Instructions] We will move on to Harald Hendrikse at Citi.

Two quick questions really. One on China -- back to China, I'm sorry. But can we just talk a little bit more about the profitability of the iX3 in China? Clearly, you've priced it incredibly competitively. Obviously, that significantly improved the chances for the stabilization of the China business, which is what you're talking about. But we haven't really talked so much about the profitability, both of the iX3 in China relative to the position in Europe. And secondly, you're not replacing old generation BEVs in China. So what does the iX3 do to the profitability of the China business overall? Is it dilutive over there as it has been in the past in Europe?

And then second question, firstly, congratulations on the acceleration. Certainly, my takeaway from the CMD was that I would have liked you to have been more ambitious in terms of some of the restructuring and stuff like that. So I'm very happy to see what you did yesterday. But in terms of ICE, considering the very, very fast take-up now of BEV in Europe, do we need to think about what your overall capacity is in Europe for ICE? ICE demand in Europe is going to come down pretty sharply now over the next couple of years, assuming BEV continues its current growth path. And doesn't that mean that the whole industry, including BMW, will have to think again about European and maybe specifically very expensive German ICE capacity?

Harald, two questions. Thank you very much. First one with regards to profitability of the iX3 in China. I will pass that to Walter. And then Milan will round it up with a statement on your question on ICE with regards to capacity in European plants. Walter, please.

Harald, many thanks for the credits we received for our action yesterday as we started in the discussion at the Capital Market Day that things are coming soon. So 6 weeks later, should we still categorize as soon? And, as I mentioned in the beginning, this is one milestone. And I think that is a good milestone on our journey.

With respect to model profitabilities, we never disclosed those ones. And we should just think about in China as you started with the iX3, which is going to be launched and sold from in 10 days, more or less. We are not just coming with the iX3. In January, we present already our i3. We present then in April, I think, in Q2, early Q2, our iX5. The feedback we received is still very positive even in the media, the social media side is also good.

And with respect to the ICE in Europe, to move on, or do you want to give some hints, Milan? So we are positive in China. That's the key message. And thanks again for the credits, which we have taken. Thank you.

Thank you, Walter, and thanks, Harald, for the question. Concerning the ICE, I mean, as you know, we are sticking to our technology open approach. And, looking on to the last 1 or 2 years, you can see that this strategy is very robust. The U.S. is still dominant on the ICEs and the BEV development is slower than expected. In China, we see a faster development. And in Europe, it's not one market. In Europe, we have a very diverse regional markets, and we see right now that the BEV increase is surprisingly good.

We have prepared ourselves with our technologies and our plants. Each of our plants in Europe can run both technologies, ICEs and fully electric cars. And that's why we will follow the market. We don't have the need to change anything on our capacities of our plants. We are very flexible on that one. And with the new plant in Debrecen, we are coming now with the Neue Klasse, which, again, as I said, is on 3 shifts. So a very robust setup we have here. And that's why we don't see any need for any changes on that side.

We will now go back to Philippe Houchois from Jefferies International. [Operator Instructions] The final question is from Anthony Dick at ODDO BHF.

Can you hear me?

I can hear you well, Anthony.

I had two. The first one is on the cash flow side. So I understand you don't want to give too many details about 2027, but then maybe we can talk about '26 and specifically relating to the realignment and restructuring. Could you tell us what part of that is actually cash? So for the first realignment of -- I think it's about EUR 1.3 billion, EUR 1.4 billion. I'm assuming that's all cash. But for the second realignment that you've just announced, what part of that extra EUR 1.3 billion, EUR 1.4 billion is actually cash? And when is that being cashed out? Is that all in '27? Or is that going to be spread out over a couple of years? That's the first question.

The second question is on the iX3 in China. You talked a little bit about the positive momentum you're seeing there. We saw also some press reports a couple of months ago about some initial encouraging momentum. Could you tell us a bit more about how that initial order momentum on the soft orders is translating into -- converting into actual firm orders? And if you could talk about the order figure in general for the iX3 in China, which is something a lot of Chinese OEMs do. So just wondering if you could provide a bit more color into that.

Thank you very much for your questions, Anthony. The first one with regards to cash flow. I will hand that to Walter. Let me allow to briefly elaborate on your second question. I presume it was about the iX3. Yes, we've announced an i3 also for China, but the iX3. We have chosen not to comment on the positive media reports that have been out there. The only statement that we've made is that, obviously, orders in China or reservations, I think, is a better word in China, do not have the same level in the sense of how strict they are and meaning a mandatory payment obligation as an order has in Europe.

So please accept that we will still not comment. But as Milan earlier mentioned in the media call, we are very much looking forward to the launch of the iX3 at the end of this month. So we're quite positive, and we've also seen this reassuring news on the car. And, with that, over to you, Walter, with regards to cash flow in 2026.

Anthony, with respect to the cash flow 2026, the key element is working capital reversal and the tariffs, that is the key focus. And all these extra elements on our restructuring, this further 1.25, ending up with around 2.5 points for the full year. This one, I'm not splitting down. Some of those ones, of course, will be rather an EBIT action. Hardly anything will be a cash action this year. And, about the effects for the cash reflected in 2027, there we have time in March to speak about which impacts we utilize in the free cash flow 2027 based on our original restructuring program or by our second package, then there is the right time to speak about it.

And now, I've just received the information directly from Philippe, who for whatever reason, was not able technically to answer -- to ask -- not to answer this question, to ask his question on the stream here. So Philippe's question read out by me now is we saw positive surprises across the industry in FinCo returns, BMW just in line. Any nonrecurring issue we should consider now and in 2027 besides ICE residuals, which you had already anticipated? Walter, this goes to you from -- with many greetings from Philippe.

Yes. Many thanks, Philippe. Sorry that you had technical issues. But if we have a look for our competitors, which I shouldn't have so much speak about, but maybe we have a look on the previous years, how their performance have been whilst they are returning step-by-step back into the right level, they should have been in the past, we are contributing to the right levels. And of course, everyone is speaking about interest elevations. But I think some are catching up rather than we are not stabilizing. We are stable. We have a good performance with our ecosystem as we present and maybe others just catching up. I would say that is my understanding of the competition at Financial Services. Many thanks. All the best.

Thank you very much, Walter. We are now at the end of our Q&A session. Thank you to all of you out there for your questions and for making the time to participate and also especially my thanks to you, Milan and Walter, for sharing your insights. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to our friendly Investor Relations team. This concludes the call. We wish you a great remainder of the day. All the best from Munich.

Dear colleagues, welcome back to the second part of our earnings call. We are going to continue in German, but there is translation. Now we are looking forward to your questions. As always, we will give you some housekeeping remarks, and then we will hear the first question.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now start with the Q&A.

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Rachel More with Thomson Reuters.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you. Please ask your question.

First question. The effect of the structural measures was expanded to 2.5% from 1.25%. What is expected for the future? And will it go beyond Q4, so also into the next year?

And then a question about the midterm. What does this mean for the strategy, the political developments? Do you expect tariffs to be reduced? Anything else? What does it mean for BMW?

Thank you very much for the first question. Walter, you have the floor.

Thank you. Now as we announced yesterday, we decided to have structuring measures and portfolio measures in the focus and to steer them in Q4. You asked about next year. So beyond Q4, that's March 2027, well, we're using the momentum that we have now, and we will bring everything along into our future.

Just one remark coming from me about the midterms. Let's wait for the final results. It's a highly interesting result and BMW Group has been working at 30 sites in 12 states for over 50 years. We have the largest plant in Spartanburg in South Carolina. Now in the past 50 years, we worked with the governments of both political parties. We always had a good cooperation, and we will have this in the future as well.

Next question, please. Felix Stippler from the Handelsblatt.

I have 2 questions concerning the e-portfolio. So you talked about portfolio measures in comparison to Gen5. Could you give us more details? What models are we talking about and what period, particularly concerning the phasing out?

And then second question, the Neue Klasse and the corresponding ICEs. What about the margin? In Europe, in some markets you already reached your goals we heard. Could you give us an update? How many markets do you talk about?

And then the China -- the market in China in iX3, Neue Klasse, what about that?

Thank you very much, Mr. Stippler. Mr. Nedeljkovic, you have the floor.

Mr. Stippler, please bear with me. We are not going to discuss individual derivatives concerning Gen5. What we see right now is a high demand for the Gen6 derivatives. Also concerning profitability of the derivatives, it makes sense for us to ramp them up early. The customers expect quick deliveries. So we focus on ramping up the Gen6 derivatives.

As you heard, we have new derivatives per quarter, and we are going to launch them all until the end of next year. This gives us momentum, and we are able to withdraw in some segments, the Gen5 technology. This is our aim. And now the comparability of the margins, I hand over to Walter.

Yes, thank you. In Europe, in the core markets, we have the same for the iX3, and we are on a good course for the new models, whether it's -- it is X5 or the X3, they are on a good track outside of Europe, in the United States because of the tariffs and in China because of the competitive competition, well, our statement stays the same.

Next question, please. Our next question comes from Frank Volk from Automobilwoche.

Mr. Nedeljkovic and Mr. Mertl, you underlined that the decision was taken yesterday to have this remarkable turn or how shall I put it, to have this new orientation. Could you give us more details? How was this taken? What are the core elements? As you said, well, 2026 -- well, we are going to advance the measures. We are also going to see the expenditures. So the move shows that you trust the Neue Klasse very much. Could you give us an update about the incoming orders?

And then one short question about Shenyang. In the Chinese media, there are reports about layoffs in Shenyang. So is that already part of the current program? Or is this an additional measure?

Thank you very much, Mr. Volk. Milan Nedeljkovic will give you an answer to the first 2 questions. Milan, you have the floor.

Mr. Volk, thank you very much for the question, particularly concerning the reasons for the decision. Well, we stated that there are 2 key elements. First, we have -- and started a restructuring process, which we announced at the Capital Market Day. It will significantly change our structures. In parallel, we have an HR program, a restructuring program. Employees can get a severance payment and leave the company. Now there is very high demand for the restructuring program. This gives us possibilities. We can accelerate our transformation process this way. This momentum should not get lost.

We see enormous potential which can be harvested in a very short amount of time. We can transform the company fast. And this was planned for the next year, but we will probably have implemented it by the middle of next year. So this was our reason to take further steps and to implement those steps this year in terms of the transformation. Then the momentum of the Neue Klasse.

The Neue Klasse had received positive feedback in Europe. We had more than 100,000 orders for iX3 until December, and we launched derivatives. The customers like them very much. And in China, we also launched the Neue Klasse. The interest in the United States is very high. So we have very good tailwind in this respect. Hence, the second consideration to do more. This is why we did increase the production in the new plant in Debrecen. We now have the third shift in place, and we are preparing to also start with the production in Mexico. So we make progress step by step, and it's a very good momentum that we have right now.

Thank you, Milan. Walter, you will answer the third question concerning China.

Yes. Of course, we focus on the HR program in Germany, as we announced in June. This is the core of everything. Of course, we have to adjust the capacities worldwide for this year, of course, but also for the next -- the upcoming occasions. So it's a usual review progress. As I said, we focus on Germany, but it's for the entire world.

Next question please. The next question comes from Joachim Herr with Boersen Zeitung.

I have 3 questions. Mr. Nedeljkovic, you said that you would like to reorganize the company. In May, you assumed your position as CEO, then you lowered the guidance in June. Now again, you are lowering the guidance. Now would you say you wrongly analyzed the developments in the sector when you started? And then Mr. Mertl, you talk about portfolio and structural measures you would like to expand them. So there is additional burden earlier. And you're saying it's concluded until mid-2027. So for the second half of 2027, do you expect a better margin than before?

And last question, severance program. Well, you concluded faster than expected. Could you give us some figures? 8,000 positions? Is that still the figure we are talking about?

Let's start with the first question. Milan Nedeljkovic, you have the floor.

Mr. Herr, you talked about the decision that was taken in June when we corrected the guidance. Well, at this point in time, we stated that we, as a group, were surprised of the speed with which the ICEs were reduced in China. In June, we had an impact of almost 40%, a decline of almost 40% of the ICEs on the market, not BMW, but on the market in China. Now this forced us in order -- this forced us to adjust the guidance because we couldn't maintain it.

Now we look back at the year and our China remains -- our volume remains stable in China. At the point in time, it was clear that we would have to adjust our structures and processes. In the Board of Management, we decided to adjust the strategy concerning our own setup, and to be more agile and to be more efficient, in particular, concerning our purchasing processes and development processes to walk down new roads. This was the core of our strategic adjustment. And of course, this leads to the reduction of personnel and the adjustment of the structure, all goes hand in hand.

Now we didn't mention a figure at the time. We are not going to mention it today either. It's an ongoing process. And of course, the structural adjustment and the HR adjustment, they go hand in hand. And we will see what makes sense. We will really take the decisions step by step, and the implementation has been very successful.

Thank you very much. So we will walk down that road. So this gave an answer to question 1 and 3. Now what about question number two, the better margins. So the measures were taken earlier, and then there was a question about the margin for the second half of 2027. Walter, you have the floor.

Thank you very much. Now we can do things faster. Hence, we use our momentum that we have right now. And of course, this will lead to a faster return, the faster we act even if we have to provide more input in some periods. This is why we announced it yesterday night, we are going to use the momentum. We can implement more structural measures. The faster we act, and we didn't see this 6 months ago. The faster we implement it, the faster we have the return, the faster the measure supports us in the profitability for the future. So to be fast, to be profitable in a shorter amount of time is a good thing.

Next question please. Next question comes from Christof Ruhrmair from DPA.

Some of my colleagues already asked my questions. So please bear with me. If I come back to the severance program, the restructuring program. I'm not 100% sure. Did you expand this? So will more jobs get lost in the very end? You don't want to give us a figure, but maybe you could talk about it? Or did you just implement it faster because you saw that it's easier? So will the overall figure increase because there is such high demand?

Milan, you have the floor.

Mr. Ruhrmair, thank you very much for your question. Now the HR restructuring program, we provided a budget. And hence, we can group the employees. This was the target, and we fulfilled it. So the correct groups got involved in the program. This way the restructuring can be implemented fast. So this enables us to do it faster, to do it at earlier points in time, but also to have an expansion and expansion from plan. So both aspects play a role.

Next question, please. The next question comes from Kana Inagaki with Financial Times.

And I'm sorry to ask in English. I had 2 questions on China. You mentioned about how the downgrade in June was prompted by the collapse in ICE sales. Are you anticipating now the death of ICE vehicles in China?

And the second question is obviously, you're planning the launch of new EVs in China, and that will create new momentum for sales. But I was wondering maybe this is not just for BMW, but maybe for the broader foreign car industry. What is the risk that Chinese consumers have really shifted to loyalty to the domestic brands and that it will be actually difficult even if new models are launched to actually revive that kind of the sales momentum. How much of that risk are you anticipating now in China?

Thank you very much. We're going to continue in German, but there is translation. Walter Mertl, you have the floor. Please give an answer to the first question. China downgrade collapse, ICE sales, let's start with that question. And then the launch of new BEVs. Well, we just talked about it, but of course, we can give you an answer to that question as well.

Well, the Chinese market is per September at a decline of 22%. And BMW also saw a decline of 22%. So it's in line with the market. Even in the third quarter, the overall market has a decline of 24.6% and BMW, a decline of 24.8%. So it's in line with the market as well. The ICE market has a further, a heavier decline. For us, it's 31% and the BEV is -- has a decline of 13%. You know that BMW has 95% in the ICE market because with the current products, we are not represented in the BEV market. So we are looking forward to the Neue Klasse. We have competitive program -- products with Neue Klasse, and we will now be able to serve the BEV market more than RMB 150,000.

Now you also asked whether the ICE market is dead. We don't think so. We think the ICE market will be alive in specific price segments. It will continue to do so up to the next decade. We are convinced of this. But of course, with the Neue Klasse, we serve the BEV market and the BEV market will increase proportionately or overproportionately. And we are firmly convinced that we will be there very successful. And then to conclude, you asked about the Chinese customers and their loyalties, is that a risk? Well, of course, it's about appealing product for us. That's the first step. And if you have appealing products, there will be demand. And Bao Ma is still a very successful product in the market. Otherwise, we'd lose more than the market, and this is not the case.

We are in line with the market. And hence, we assume that we are well positioned. By the way, the Neue Klasse technology is for fully electric vehicles in China and also for ICEs as it is in the entire world. This will give us a very good setup.

Thank you very much. If I remember correctly, this year in China, it's the year of the Horse. Just a small remark on the side. It's an indirect translation of Bao Ma, as Mr. Mertl just said. Next question, please.

Next question, Tim Loh from Bloomberg News.

I have a few questions concerning updates. Mr. Nedeljkovic, in September, you told us that BMW would like to exploit new business fields outside of vehicle production with AI. The BMW is the brain. That's the idea. Now what has happened specifically since then? Do you already have customers outside of the vehicle business? If not, when do you expect the first customers to come? And how would you like to make money with BMW in this field?

Second question, it's a similar question. So the Senior Vice President level, and the reorganization. I was just wondering what has already happened specifically. What functions or structures do you think can be abolished? And what type of work could be assumed by AI in the future at this level?

Thank you very much, Tim. All right. The CEO will give an answer to both questions. First, AI, new fields of business. And then second, changes on the Senior Vice President level. Mr. Nedeljkovic, you have the floor.

Mr. Loh, thank you very much. You asked about AI. Now AI has been an important topic within the company for a decade. And in our processes and also in our products, we install and integrate more and more AI applications. So AI penetrates the company, as you can see, consistently, and we have a high skillfulness in terms of AI. We can use AI and complement processes and products with AI. So in the future, we will think about this more. We have skills. We would like to cooperate with other companies. How can we make use of the skills? So please be patient for a bit more. We don't -- it's not the right occasion to talk about this today, but there is potential on the market concerning AI, and we can use AI for more than just our internal processes.

Now the Senior Vice President, the identification. Now those are the levels of the Senior Vice Presidents. It's not so much about the individuals. It's about the units within the organization. And of course, when you go down the hierarchy, you have interfaces to other segments. So there is a restructuring in this -- on this level. And hence, we reduced the number of individual segments this way, and we can bundle interfaces. So at the end, we have a very process-oriented, customer-oriented organizational structure. We have fewer interfaces in the future. That's the background of this agility and the efficiency. That's the main -- those are the main targets. So please understand, I can't give you specific examples of those organizational changes, but we would like to have more entrepreneurial responsibility in the processes.

We would like to focus more on the customer and create more value.

Next question, please. Next question comes from Max Hagler from Die Zeit.

I have a simple question. U.K., Europe and commerce and then the phasing out of this trade deal. So do you think we are in for a good end, is it going to conclude well? Or is it going to be difficult in 2027? Now the severance program. We have to talk about it. Now on the positive side, the program went better than expected, but it has also -- there's also a critical aspect to it. It says something about the market if so many people leave so fast, what are the reasons for this? That's the first point.

And then second, what about the team that is left behind? How do they motivate them? And then third point, the Senior Vice Presidents, maybe they might leave and say, "Well, I would like to stay, but you don't want me here, so I'm just going to go." It's a difficult situation for the company, particularly in terms of the motivation.

Thank you very much, Max Hagler. Now I would like to talk about the U.K., Europe, the trade and the trade deal. Mr. Hagler, it's way too early to say anything about the future in this respect. We received positive signals from the EU in this regard. But can we tell you anything else? No. That's also part of the IAA. So it's an overall package that is being negotiated. We have to wait and see. Please understand that we can't tell you right now how it's going to end. Of course, the U.K. is a very important site for us, but we just have to wait and see.

Now the other 2 questions, severance program, as also, you mentioned a critical aspect, and then how do we deal with the leaving Senior Vice Presidents, Mr. Nedeljkovic.

Mr. Hagler, thank you very much. The BMW Group has highly motivated teams, committed teams, and we are very connected to our products and the company. We -- this is the feedback that we got from surveys. So it's not a question of motivation. It's rather about us achieving to implement the change program to have it run in parallel to the severance program. And the severance program offers very appealing things. So the structures changed. And of course, there is a need for change for individuals. Well, the individuals have to decide, will I leave? Will I go along with this? Of course, we focused on specific elements in the transformation. And yes, our plan worked. And the plan works, not because of a negative impact, but many employees use the opportunity. The package that is offered is adequate within the sector, and it's also a very good package. It's a good offer.

So the Senior Vice Presidents, as I said, we are talking about the segments, not the individuals. And of course, we have possibilities in terms of the age structure, we can have changes on the inside, and we see possibilities. We use the possibilities early, and we prepared early for this. So if you see it together, it gives us momentum. And I'm really proud of it because the executives are highly motivated. They are highly willing to implement the change. It's fascinating. I'm thrilled by this. I can tell you, it's a momentum. And BMW can be very proud of this, proud of how we tackle this very important issue.

Next question, please. The next question comes from Christina Amann with Thomson Reuters.

I didn't really understand. Maybe you explained it. There is additional burden. And how much is because of the depreciation, the vehicles that run out are phased out? How many vehicles are we talking about? And how much of the burden is attributed to the HR measures? Maybe you could also talk about the future. Now you lowered the guidances, both for the return and also for the sales, what is the forecast for the sales for the upcoming years? And now the return, do you uphold the medium-term prognosis of 10% and to 13%? Or can you maybe accelerate this more?

Thank you, Mrs. Amann. It's good to have the CFO here. He will give you an answer to the 2 questions.

All right. Let's start with the additional burden. Concerning the vehicles and how much is attributed to HR? How much is attributed to the vehicles and then the sales in the upcoming years, profitability, et cetera.

Mrs. Amann, thank you very much. Now we are not going to discuss the split here today. But as we said before, we are now taking the second step. We can take it earlier than expected, as we said before. It's a correct combination from individual measures from all elements. Now the guidance, the sales and the return, it's great that you mentioned it. Now the guidance, the volume. We confirm that we have an EBIT margin of more than 2% in connection with what I said about the EUR 2.5 billion. This is very important. And now concerning the return going forward. Now exactly, we are doing this. We announced it yesterday. We have one more piece of the puzzle. We can be faster, and we can go to the 3% to 5% of the EBIT margin in 2028. What can be accelerated, what cannot be accelerated, we will see. When we met 3 years ago, the EBIT margins were totally different. What happened in the meantime, it's a long list. A lot happened in the meantime.

Now I can be very optimistic. We have a new product portfolio, the Neue Klasse. A lot will happen in 2027. The portfolio is updated. We are very appealing on the market. The feedback confirms this. We are going to support it also with the measures which we announced yesterday. And we will talk about the rest at the later stage.

Next question, please. Next question comes from Christoph Kapalschinski from Die Welt.

I would like to have more details on the following. What does it mean for the customers if you say that you're going to phase out Gen5 faster than expected? Now do they have to hurry if they want to get a specific vehicle, which models are affected? What does it mean for the customers? Some of your competitors in Europe, I think, given the high demand of BEVs, deliberately try to reduce the BEV offer in order to sell more ICEs for better margins. Are you doing the same?

And maybe you could also describe why the effect of the earnings from the faster phaseout of Gen5 is mentioned now for the first time, even though Gen6 has a stronger margin. And then one last question on China. You talked about a low share of NEV. Are you optimistic? Do you think that this could have a negative impact on the start of the Neue Klasse because in this area, your footprint is pretty small.

Thank you very much. We start with Mr. Nedeljkovic concerning Gen5 phasing out and then competitors in Europe.

Mr. Kapalschinski, the statement then Gen6 is ramped up. This is what we do together with the customers. The customers are demanding our vehicles. And the market is really trying to get this new technology. There's also a high demand for all of the derivatives, which were launched with Gen6. So we have high demand and people are thrilled. So we are happy about this. And this is why our forecast is positive concerning the product momentum. At the same time, the Gen5 models can be reduced to smaller volumes and to withdraw them. So it's not a negative impact on the customers. On the contrary, the customers are very happy that the new generation is available earlier.

Now competitors in Europe that they reduced the BEV offer deliberately. Well, our competitors know what they're doing, and we know what we are doing. We have a good product portfolio. So I would like to talk about the Q3 value again. So we -- the BEV share grew. We have a high volume of BEV share at 47% with the hybrids or almost 50%, as I said in my presentation. So this speaks for our products, I'd say.

Now the question concerning the improvement of the result, phaseout of discontinuation of Gen5. I would like to underline all of the measures help us for the future in order to achieve our earnings targets. And if we talk about C1 and BEV, just one remark concerning the CO2 values.

Now still, we are on target. We have a better focus. This year, we will reach the target again and achieve all of the EU targets. And we can do this very well. And then China, as I said before, with the Neue Klasse, we are competitive. We have done many test drives in China. We get very good positive feedback. We will start at the end of next week with the sale of iX3, and then we will launch one product after the other in China. And this makes us very optimistic. We will have and consolidate our footprint.

Next question please. Next question comes from Andreas Hob from den Munchner Merkur.

I have one question concerning the HR program. Sorry, I have to come back to it. Just to make it clear. So it's definitely concluded, is that correct? That's question number one.

And then you said you allocated a specific budget for it. I think you talked about EUR 1 billion of provisions. Is that the budget? Or is it higher? Could you give us a figure? And it affects Munich. Here, we have the FIZ. Here, we have the headquarter, with the tower. How much percent of people using the severance come from Munich? And now the models of the Neue Klasse, which will be launched a bit earlier and other models which are discontinued. Does it also mean that the portfolio gets a bit streamlined? Or it's just the Gen5 replaced by Gen6 models?

Thank you. Let's start with Milan Nedeljkovic.

Mr. Hob, concerning the question about the severance program. Yes, we concluded the severance program because we allocated the budget to it. And within 3 weeks, we had high demand, and we were able to conclude it and just some contracts remain on the table. They have to be signed. But as for the rest, the demand was higher than we had planned for in the budget. So we concluded, and we are going to focus on other structural measures. We try to implement other structural changes in other areas. So the company has a new focus. So HR, of course, will be on the table still, but not within the context of that program.

And you asked about the number of people from Munich. Now you're talking about the headquarter in Munich, well, I'd say the majority comes from Munich. I am not aware of the exact figures, but I'd say more than 90% come from Munich, and that was also the target of this program because in the plants themselves, we made the offer, but we didn't focus on the plants so much. We have great capacity. All of the German plants have a very good capacity. We have up to 3 shifts in the plant. So we focus more on the indirect areas and segments, as I said, steering and development and purchasing and planning. That was the focus of the program.

Milan, could you please talk about the Neue Klasse? Will we have the new models earlier? Or what about the replacement of Gen5 models?

Well, Neue Klasse, this year, we see a remarkable increase of the production capacities. Primarily, there is high demand for the current models. So we try to increase the volume for each derivative. In some cases, we anticipated models in some regions, we have it earlier by some months, but it's about the volume. That's the key focus.

And then one more thing, whether you allocated a specific figure as provision for the severance program. We didn't announce any figure, of course. And I would like to see this confirmed by Mr. Mertl.

Well, we never announced a figure. You mentioned the figure. We never said this. As I said, 0.25%. And now we are talking about everything, whether it's the structural measures, the portfolio, whatever structural measures is. To me, this is more than HR. So now we talk about 2.5 EBIT points auto car. So this is what we're talking about. We are not talking about the split, we're not talking about a specific figure.

Thank you, Walter Mertl. If my information is correct, then this is the last question.

The last question of the day comes from Louis van Boxel-Woolf with AFP.

I have a question on China, Shenyang. Now you mentioned the export from Shenyang to Asia Pacific. Why Asia Pacific? Could you imagine to export also to other regions of the world?

And second question, general question about synergies. Are there processes, parts, a specific know-how that you developed in China and which is used in other regions of the world or could be used in other regions of the world?

Thank you very much. I hand over to Milan Nedeljkovic for the 2 questions.

Mr. Boxel-Woolf, thank you very much for your questions. Now the exports, as you said, the BMW brands, the focus is on Asia Pacific. We have MINIs being exported to Europe, but actually, the strategy is local for local. Now with -- whenever it's about global resilience, we try to have supply chains and production in the regions of the world where we have the sale. Asia Pacific is a good choice because we have an economic community, and we can have trade between the countries, which makes sense and export is enabled. Of course, we have a long wheelbase version of our vehicles in China. Hence, the product strategy is a bit different from the one in Europe or from the one in the United States. So we are not planning to export it to other regions in the world.

Now the know-how and the technologies, there is an exchange with the sites in China and an intense exchange. We learn, both sides learn, we transfer technologies within the legal framework. Now in China, there are cooperations with Momenta, the ADAS stack was developed there. So we gained our own experiences, which are now being transferred to Europe. But always coming from our own structures. So we learn from one another. Nevertheless, we try to keep the tech stack for each region in that region of the world.

Thank you very much, Milan and Walter Mertl. Thank you, dear colleagues. This brings us to the end of our call. I would like to thank you for your participation. All the best to you. Goodbye.

[Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]

Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the telephone conference of the BMW Group for the third quarter. Today, we have here Milan Nedeljkovic, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG; and our CFO, Walter Mertl.

We will start with Milan, briefly putting yesterday's announcement into context. He is followed by Walter, who will take you through our financial results. Milan will then give you a general business update for the BMW Group.

After a short break, we will have time for our Q&A sessions. Milan, please go ahead.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to begin with a few general remarks. After the first 9 months of the year, we achieved an operational performance of 3.5% EBIT margin in the Automotive segment. Despite the difficult business environment, we reached group earnings of EUR 2 billion in Q3. At the same time, we are driving the structural transformation of the company forward across all levels.

We are making good progress, and we want to take the opportunity this year to pick up the pace even further. Therefore, we proactively decided to expand our portfolio and structure measures to accelerate the necessary change. Accordingly, we adjusted our guidance for 2026.

I will hand over to Walter to run us through the Q3 figures and outline the financial impact of yesterday's decision. After that, I will provide a strategic update.

Thank you very much, Milan. Walter, please go ahead.

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. The BMW Group continues to operate in a challenging global market environment in the third quarter with significant differences across regions. Volume growth in Europe and the U.S. partially offset the decline in China and Asia Pacific. In this environment, we remain focused on the factors that we can directly influence. So we continued discipline on costs and operational performance. Against this backdrop, our third quarter financial performance was in line with expectations.

Let me start with an overview of our group performance in the third quarter. Group revenues amounted to more than EUR 30 billion in the quarter and almost EUR 93 billion after 9 months. Our diversified business model once again supported our group results. Group earnings before tax totaled EUR 2.1 billion in Q3, benefiting from both our Financial Services business, and the positive development of interest rate derivatives. After 9 months, group EBT amounted to EUR 6.1 billion. Accordingly, the group EBT margin stood at 6.8% in the third quarter and 6.6% year-to-date.

In the Automotive segment, EBIT amounted to EUR 901 million in the third quarter, corresponding to a reported EBIT margin of 3.4%. The margin benefited from the settlement reached with our supplier in connection with the IBS brake system warranty case.

At the same time, the margin also included 2 familiar items. First, elevated tariffs had an impact of around 1.25 percentage points. And second, depreciation from the BBA purchase price allocation, BBA reduced the margin by 1.2 percentage points. The expenses related to our workforce restructuring program will be recognized in the P&L in the fourth quarter. They will impact the full year EBIT margin by around 1.25 percentage points. After 9 months, Automotive EBIT amounted to around EUR 2.9 billion, with an EBIT margin of 3.5%.

Let me now provide more detail on the performance of the Automotive segment. In the third quarter, the BMW Group delivered around 551,000 BMW, MINI, and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers, 6.3% less than in the same quarter last year. Automotive segment revenues declined by 6.5% to EUR 26.7 billion, largely reflecting lower vehicle deliveries and the continued competitive intensity in several markets. While overall deliveries and revenues were below the prior year level, our BEV retail sales gained further momentum in the third quarter as demand remained strong across key markets.

With over 110,000 deliveries, an increase of 7.2% year-on-year, our all electric models accounted for 1 in 5 units sold worldwide, including plug-in hybrids, sales of electrified vehicles amounted to more than 150,000 units, which corresponds to an electrified vehicle share of 27.4%.

Let's now take a closer look at our sales performance across the major regions. In Europe, our largest sales region, retail sales increased by 2.6% year-on-year. Europe also remains the main BEV growth driver. Here, more than 1 in 3 vehicles sold were all electric, including plug-in hybrid. The European electrification ratio came close to 50%. In the U.S., retail sales grew by 2.5% in the third quarter and 3.5% after 9 months, outperforming a declining overall market.

In China, weak consumer demand continued to weigh on large parts of the automotive market, particularly in the non-electrified vehicle segment. In this environment, BMW Group retail sales declined by 24.8% in the third quarter. This was in line with the overall market, which was down 24.6%. We continue to focus on balancing volumes, pricing and profitability in this highly competitive market. And at the same time, we are preparing for the market launch of the long wheel-based BMW iX3 in November in China, followed by further Neue Klasse models throughout 2027.

In our sales region, Asia Pacific, Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, retail sales declined by around 8,000 units or 10.9% year-on-year. Several markets in the region were affected by weaker consumer sentiment resulting from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East as well as increasing competitive pressure linked to spillover effects from China.

Let's now take a closer look at the year-on-year development of automotive EBIT on the following slide. Changes in currencies reduced EBIT by around EUR 100 million year-over-year, while raw material positions were broadly neutral. As expected, the year-over-year currency headwind was significantly lower in Q3 than in the first 2 quarters of the year.

The net effect of volume, model mix, and pricing had a negative impact of around EUR 600 million compared to the third quarter of 2025. This mainly reflects lower volumes in China and continued pricing pressure in several markets.

Total group R&D expenditure remained below the prior year level at EUR 1.8 billion, decreasing by 6.8% year-on-year. But research and development expenses recognized in the P&L, however, increased by around EUR 200 million, mainly due to higher depreciation on capitalized development costs from previous years.

The R&D ratio according to the German Commercial Code came in at 5.9% for both the third quarter and the first 9 months. We continue to make progress in reducing our operating cost base. As a result, selling and administrative expenses decreased by around EUR 100 million year-on-year in the third quarter. Other cost changes had a positive EBIT impact of EUR 400 million, mainly reflecting the settlement reached with our supplier in connection with the IBS brake system warranty case. As a result, Automotive EBIT amounted to EUR 901 million in the third quarter and EUR 2.9 billion after 9 months.

Let's switch to free cash flow in the Automotive segment, starting with earnings before tax of around EUR 900 million. The net change in working capital contributed around EUR 600 million, mainly reflecting lower inventories as we have adjusted production schedules in line with market demand.

The net effect of capital expenditure and depreciation contributed positively by around EUR 600 million as depreciation continued to exceed capital expenditure. We expect depreciation to remain above capital expenditure for the full year 2026 and beyond. The CapEx ratio was 3.9% for the first 9 months.

The change in provisions reduced free cash flow by around EUR 900 million in Q3, mainly reflecting the consumption of provisions for warranties and bonus payments. Other items reduced free cash flow by EUR 1.8 billion. This mainly reflects timing effects as some of the accruals have supported free cash flow in the second quarter reversed in the third quarter.

In total, Automotive free cash flow amounted to minus EUR 566 million in the third quarter, and after 9 months, it stood at EUR 724 million. And as you know, the BMW Group is steering Automotive free cash flow on an annual basis. For the full year, we continue to target more than EUR 2.5 billion of Automotive free cash flow. In the fourth quarter, we expect significant positive cash contributions from further working capital reduction and tariff refunds.

Ladies and gentlemen, the BMW Group remains committed to its shareholder return strategy, combining attractive dividend payments with share buybacks. The third and final tranche of our current third share buyback program is expected to be completed in November. With this, we will have completed the entire EUR 2 billion program, 5 months ahead of the original schedule. This reflects our disciplined approach to capital allocation and our focus on creating value for our shareholders. Under the current program, we will have returned around EUR 1.25 billion to shareholders through share buybacks in 2026.

News on share buyback program 4 will follow in due course. As stated at our Capital Market Day at the end of September, we are currently reviewing our shareholder return framework.

In our Financial Services segment, new business remained at a high level. During the first 9 months, we concluded around 1.3 million new contracts with retail customers, a slight increase of 1.3% year-on-year. Adjusted for FX effects, total new business volume grew by 3.3% to around EUR 49.4 billion. At the same time, the penetration rate for lease and loan products increased to 53.7%. This development was supported by a more favorable competitive environment in China since mid-2025.

Our Financial Services balance sheet volume reached EUR 159 billion at the end of September. This represents an increase of more than 5% year-on-year, driven by retail financing and leasing contracts. Quarterly earnings were stable year-on-year with segment earnings before tax amounting to EUR 639 million. And for the first 9 months, segment earnings totaled EUR 1.65 billion, down 10.3% year-on-year. This decline results from an addition to an existing provision in the first quarter, which was related to a consumer compensation program in the U.K.

Overall, the segment continued to grow and made an important contribution to group earnings. The credit loss ratio across the entire credit portfolio increased to 0.35% at the end of September. This reflects the sale of non-performing loans in the third quarter.

In the Motorcycles segment, deliveries declined by 12.5% year-on-year to 46,600 units. Segment EBIT for the third quarter totaled EUR 33 million, resulting in an EBIT margin of 4.8%.

Ladies and gentlemen, building on our solid Q3 results that I just outlined, we took the decision yesterday to expand and intensify our portfolio and structural measures in the financial year 2026. As we successfully ramp up the Neue Klasse, we will gradually phase out previous vehicle and technology generations earlier. In addition, we are further accelerating the organizational realignment of the company.

Considering these measures, we have changed our outlook for the financial year 2026 for the following KPIs. In the Automotive segment, we now expect the EBIT margin to come in within a range of minus 0.5% to plus 0.5%. I would like to reiterate that this full year Auto EBIT margin includes our portfolio and structural measures. Their impact on the margin was originally expected to be 1.25 percentage points. But after our decision to expand these measures, we now anticipate a total burden of around 2.5 percentage points. That means that without these measures, the Auto EBIT margin is still expected to be above 2%.

Accordingly, the return on capital employed in the Automotive segment is expected in a corridor between minus 1% and plus 1%. Given the changes to our 2026 outlook, we will consider the impact of our portfolio and structural measures in total when determining the level of shareholder returns for the 2026 financial year in February.

Ladies and gentlemen, our diversified global business model enables us to manage diverging developments across regions and support the overall performance of the group. On this basis, the BMW Group achieved earnings before tax of more than EUR 6 billion in the first 9 months of 2026. For the full year 2026, we continue to expect an Automotive EBIT margin above 2% before portfolio and structural measures, and an Automotive free cash flow of more than EUR 2.5 billion. At the same time, we are seeing positive momentum from the initiatives we launched in 2026.

We are now moving into the next phase of our transformation. Rolling out the technologies of Neue Klasse across our portfolio, simplifying structures and processes and further reducing complexity across the company. Artificial intelligence will play an increasingly important role in driving these changes.

Going forward, we will further reduce operational costs as well as R&D and capital expenditure to improve our long-term profitability. For the full year 2026, we expect both R&D and CapEx to be below prior year levels. In 2027, we will be heading back towards our strategic corridors, which are 4% to 5% for R&D and less than 5% for CapEx.

As outlined at our Capital Market Day, we are targeting an Automotive EBIT margin of 3% to 5% in 2028, and aim to return to our strategic target range of 8% to 10% at the beginning of the next decade. The decision that we took yesterday is an important step towards achieving these targets. On that basis, we will create sustained value for all our stakeholders. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Walter. Coming back to our CEO, Milan, please go ahead.

Ladies and gentlemen, at the end of September, we presented our strategic outlook at our Capital Market Day. We outlined where we stand and how we are positioning our company for the future. We also confirmed our long-term target range, 8% to 10% EBIT margin in the Automotive segment. We aim to achieve this target at the beginning of the next decade. And as you know, we have set an interim target of 3% to 5% EBIT margin in 2028. To improve our profitability and to reach these targets, significant measures are needed. As we presented at the end of September, we are tackling all major business processes.

In sales, we are preparing the rollout of our direct sales model for the BMW brand in Europe, which will start next year. We are also taking measures to expand our offering at the high end of our product portfolio. We are, therefore, looking at introducing additional offering above the current top end model, the BMW X7 tailor-made for the U.S. market.

In Engineering, we want to reduce the development cycle significantly. At the same time, we are reviewing the number of variants across our entire portfolio and will reduce complexity. In purchasing, we are reorienting our sourcing strategy and leveraging strategic partnerships, industry best offer, and AI applications. In parallel, we are streamlining our organizational structures across all divisions of the BMW AG to become more agile and efficient.

Today, I'd like to focus on our progress since the Capital Market Day regarding the transformation of our company and the successful rollout of the Neue Klasse. After that, I will give you an outlook on the months ahead.

Ladies and gentlemen, in the last few weeks, we have launched many initiatives across the whole company, and we have already made significant progress. For example, we're accelerating the streamlining of our organizational structures, including the announced 20% reduction of the Senior Vice President roles. As an important enabler of our transformation, we started a voluntary severance program. The program focused on all indirect employees of the BMW AG in Germany. Due to strong interest, we will be able to complete the program in a short amount of time. This highly positive response to the program opens up more significant potential to faster streamline our structures.

We have deliberately decided to take advantage of the opportunity this year to extend our wide range of structural measures to further accelerate the transformation. Based on this decision, we aim to finalize most of our company's organizational transformation by the middle of next year. This will enable us to significantly improve our agility and the profitability of our organization.

In addition, we are rolling out Neue Klasse product at remarkable pace across the portfolio and all powertrains. After the success of the BMW iX3, many other models have followed, including the updated 7 Series, the 3 Series with BEV and ICE variants, the X5 with multiple drivetrain options, as well as the iX4.

Neue Klasse production is up and running in Debrecen, Munich, Dingolfing, Spartanburg, and Shenyang. In Debrecen, we have already expanded operations to 3 shifts to meet demand. There, the iX4 will be produced alongside the iX3. We will further enhance our leading position in the BEV premium segment. All BEV variants of the Neue Klasse are powered by our new sixth-generation high-voltage batteries.

At the beginning of October, we opened our new plant in Irlbach-Strabkirchen, which will supply our German plants. Just 3 weeks ago, I joined the opening of our Gen 6 facility in Shenyang. Series production in Woodruff in South Carolina will begin before the end of this year with San Luis Potosi in Mexico following next year.

In line with this growing production capacity and demand, we have significantly increased the ramp-up of the Gen 6 models this year. This will allow us to phase out some Gen 5 BEVs sooner than planned, with an additional impact on 2026 earnings.

Looking ahead, the better margins of the Gen 6 products will help drive the transformation of our portfolio and increase profitability. The speed of our structural transformation and the ramp-up of the Gen 6 technology, both reflect our confidence in our path forward.

This brings me to our priorities for the next month. With our global market strategy, we are increasing our regional setup to tailor our offerings to the different needs of the markets. In Europe, this means strengthening our presence in the high-volume entry premium segment by introducing another fully electric BMW model in 2028. In the U.S., we continue to deliver on the strong customer demand for SAVs with our plant in Spartanburg that is running at full capacity.

China remains a key focus for us. The rollout of the Neue Klasse begins this month with the market launch of the iX3 in China. Feedback from the pre-drives of the new iX3 and i3 has been extremely positive. In particular, our ADAS with the unique BMW Symbiotic driving has been very highly rated.

Going forward, we will further strengthen the local R&D and sourcing functions to be even more focused on Chinese customer needs and to address them at a faster pace. We are also looking to leverage our production network in Shenyang more broadly by considering exports of vehicles manufactured in China to markets in Asia Pacific.

All in all, we are taking steps in all our major regions to develop our local footprints further and to localize our supply chains. This is the basis for a more resilient and profitable global setup.

Ladies and gentlemen, as mentioned, we are committed to our long-term profitability targets. For this, we are driving the transformation of our processes and structures forward. And with the Neue Klasse, we are rolling out an extensive product portfolio. We are seeing high demand for Neue Klasse models, and we have made very positive progress with the workforce restructuring program. Therefore, we have now actively decided to expand the portfolio and structural measures, while focusing on the successful rollout of the Neue Klasse.

By doing this, we are laying the foundation starting next year for reaching our next milestone in 2028 and therefore, staying firmly on course towards our long-term ambitions. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Milan. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now have a short break before we move on to the Q&A session. See you in 5 minutes.

Thank you for joining us for the Q2 2026 Investor and Analyst Q&A session, following the speeches this morning. My name is Stefan Richmann, and I'm Senior Vice President, Group Treasury and Investor Relations. With me are our CEO, Milan Nedeljkovic as well as our CFO, Walter Mertl, and we're happy to take your questions. [Operator Instructions]

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Patrick Hummel at UBS.

It's Patrick from UBS. I would like to start with one -- more strategic one for Milan, please. You're starting the CEO job with a big restructuring task. I guess they're nicer ways to begin, but nonetheless, what needs to be done needs to be done. I'm curious, can you elaborate a little bit on the other key priorities, key issues you've identified in the last couple of months since you took over and maybe the ones that matter the most in terms of the earnings impact, the strategic action you're planning to take?

And if I may, more specifically also on China. We hear a lot from OEMs trying to fix China with new product. That's kind of the normal narrative, but the reality shows that you can't really fix China just with new product, everybody tries to do that. So I'm curious what else you're thinking needs to be done in China to stabilize the business over there?

And my second question goes to Walter, please. In terms of the restructuring announced the 8,000 head count cuts, it sounds like mostly overhead or white-collar jobs. Can you give us a rough idea about the magnitude of the savings you expect on a run rate basis? Is it fair to say it's going to be a mid or high 3-digit million euro amount once fully implemented. And also the time line will we see all of that in 2028 already materializing fully in the bottom line?

Patrick, and thank you very much for your questions. I would indeed follow exactly how you suggested in handing the first one to Milan about restructuring. You asked whether there were any additional strategic directions taken apart from what was also communicated yesterday. And then the second one, I would hand to Walter afterwards with regards to the magnitude of savings. And Milan, please you go ahead with the first question.

Patrick, thanks for your questions. Concerning the restructuring, I mean, first of all, I would like to emphasize that the basic strategic direction of the BMW Group is not fundamentally changing. We have the open technology approach to our powertrains, which is one of our strengths and which brings us also into the future. We have a global footprint and a very strong product momentum with the Neue Klasse and all that is the backwind we have for the next years.

On top of that, of course, and that's the issue we are talking is the cost structure of our company, which we need to improve. And it's not only our company in itself. I mean, of course, we will get some benefits through the restructuring, through reducing people numbers in our own organization, but the significant saving comes through the way of developing and purchasing parts and the overall way we approach the market on the sales side. And that's why the restructuring program is based on 4 pillars, starting with the customer level and the sales organization with direct sales, we see a very good opportunity for us to stabilize our pricing in the market and improve our earnings on that side.

The organizational bids will primarily focus on reducing complexity inside our own organization and reducing the time we need to -- time to market for our products. On the purchasing side, we want to work more on partnership levels with our suppliers and by creating long-term contracts also leveraging some potentials on the value creation worldwide, the global footprint we have on that side.

And last but not least, the way we develop our products must be changed more towards industrial standards, not meaning that we are giving up any performance of BMWs or any specifications we usually have in BMWs. But we have to realize that the supplier offer has increased over time. And there are industrial standards on the market, which are convincing, and it would be wrong not to use them. And based on these 4 pillars, the whole restructuring is set up. It's more about the way we work than about specific savings in specific activities.

Patrick, so with respect to all these topics Milan mentioned, it is a process to be adjusted, the attitude, how we work together and what we do, of course, also utilizing all digital aspects is taken into account. So this program we agreed quite quick and fast and in silence with our working council, especially in Germany, that is one building block of all the measures. So -- and of course, all measures and all building blocks will end up on our way back to 8% to 10% of the EBIT margin, our strategic target, which we also referred to in our speech.

So I think that is the most relevant thing. And of course, linking to our message we have given at the talk session on June 16, we assume, of course, whatever happens, a return, which is faster than 2 years. And based that we have agreed to start our discussions with people from Q4 onwards, we could assume, as we also mentioned already at the talk in June, that we will have hardly any cash out in this year '26, but rather in '27.

And the run rate of savings would then be in the high 3-digit million range from '28 onwards. Is that a fair assumption?

Well, that is an assumption, but we won't commit to that -- to this assumption, and maybe you get more clarity at the CMD end of September.

The next question is from Jose Asumendi at JPMorgan.

Two questions, please. The first one relates to improving the competitive footprint in Germany. So which measures are you implementing in Germany across your German plants to make the footprint more competitive? And second, how do you plan to balance this production footprint between higher labor cost countries and lower labor cost countries in Europe?

A second question on China. Should we expect another capacity cut in China? Or is the current capacity that you have in China adequate for the current sales development?

Thank you for your 2 questions. I would actually hand both of them to Milan. Your first, you asked about the competitive footprint, whether we would be improving that, especially with regards to plants? Second one then, you addressed capacity overall in China with your question, whether it is adequate and Milan also having run production, I think it's appropriate to hand this question -- these 2 questions to you.

Well, concerning the improvement of the competitive footprint, as I mentioned, with the program we are tackling different directions starting from sales with production, purchasing and the way we develop parts. The biggest contribution in Europe will, of course, be the supplier network and how we integrate the competence of the supplier into our own organization, how do we localize more parts close to our new plant in Debrecen. And how do we gain benefits from a long-term contract, which gives more stability to us and to supplier. Based on that 3 approaches, we do see significant potentials which will improve our cost position in Europe.

The production footprint is in our case quite balanced and well loaded, especially looking on to Europe. So our plant in Europe and the U.S. are well balanced, also in South Africa. So the only market which gave us a surprise was China. And as you know, we did implement a new plant in China a couple of years ago, which we did not ramp up yet to full capacity. So even we have installed capacity, we don't have a surplus of people in the amount which would hit our business, and we have high flexibility in the contracts we have.

So for us, the volume we have now in China is adequate to the number of associates we have there, and it gives us the potential to grow, but we don't see a need to reduce installed facilities.

Jose, maybe I add another aspect on the cost side, right? So we installed Kreton and have buildings, but it is not fully established with the capacity possible. Hence, there is no cost. And even on the buildings, you also are fully aware of that the cost position is a total different one than outside China. Hence, depreciation is also a total different level than outside China. And we mentioned already that we have taken already actions last year and further this year with respect to all cost elements in China. So we are reducing these ones already that is contributing, but not compensating anything on the contribution margin side, which we achieved in China, of course.

The next question is from Tim Rokossa at Deutsche Bank.

I have 2 questions, but can I clarify something first that you just said Walter before I start with my 2. And that is the strategic margin target of 8% to 10%. That's still intact, right, regardless of what we're going to hear new at the CMD? And then my 2 questions is, obviously, there's quite a few things that you're kicking off at the same time. There's the efficiency program new ways to run the business. What should we expect from the CMD perhaps, Milan to you? Is this where you're going to reveal the master plan, so to say? Or is this more of a longer process that we need to adapt to and learn about?

And then secondly, on China, Mercedes has obviously taken the write-down. I get that you are de-risking your case through the PPA consistently, but given how different the business is developing versus your own expectations. Can you help us understand why you have not to take more strategic actions there, thinking about writing off some of the stake and so on and so forth?

Good morning, Tim. Good morning to Frankfurt. I would -- first, before we come to your 2 questions, briefly, I hand the word to Walter with regards to your -- let's call it, the pre-question, with regard to the strategic target corridor 8% to 10%. Walter, would you like to make a brief statement on that topic first.

Yes, brief and clear. Tim, as we mentioned already, we intensify and speed up our structure and efficiency measures to end up with our strategic corridor of 8% to 10%. That's confirmed. And of course, with respect of the current situation, we have to do more than maybe we expected 12 months ago and we are just in the middle of doing so. With all these elements Milan mentioned before, they should all help. Step by step we are becoming better, and you will see our execution.

And now coming back to your questions. The first one is with regards to expectations for the CMD. I would hand that to Milan in just a minute. The second one, you commented on Mercedes-Benz having written down assets. We will, of course, not comment on what our friendly competitors in Stuttgart have done, but you were asking us why we're not taking more strategic actions there? Walter, I would kindly ask you to answer the second question. But first to you, Milan.

Tim, thanks a lot for your question to the CMD since, as you know, we are putting a lot of emphasis on that meeting and reason is we are doing now a very intensive work on setting up a detailed presentation for you for that meeting. I mean the core element of it is, of course, our transformational program, which I did explain in rough right now. But on top of that, of course, we also do -- we'll have some discussion about technologies and products and derivatives and furthermore.

However, the core orientation of our strategy as a group is not changing. We still stick to our global footprint. We still stick to our technology openness. We will come with the Neue Klasse and the technologies. All this remains, and it's a robust base for the future orientation. However, in detail, we will have some changes, and that's why it will be quite interesting for you, I think.

Yes. And then with respect to impairment, we have to do impairment tests quarterly and we have to check our assets. And of course, maybe some assets are differently measured if you have an at equity consolidation or a full consolidation. Now with respect to us, we do have a full consolidation aspect of our joint venture in China. What is that meaning that we have the whole balance sheet in our group balance sheet integrated and not just one element of financial assets. That's the first difference. But you know that.

The second one, of course, is that with the takeover of the further 25%, we have to add value on our asset risk based on all the balance sheet side. And on this immaterial element, we are depreciating the purchase price allocation, and this will end mid '28. There is the second element of the goodwill, which we can't depreciate over time, and that is stated and disclosed of roughly EUR 1 billion, and that one, of course, also has to do always this impairment test, and we don't fail the impairment test. And hence, there is no write-off but just ordinary depreciation, not a write-off, it's an ordinary depreciation of our purchase price allocation since February '22, and this is ending May '28. That's the different situation between these ones having to check out at equities or we having done the full consolidation. Hope that helps.

The next question is from Stephen Reitman at Bernstein. We will move on to Michael Tyndall at HSBC.

Hopefully, you can hear me. Couple of questions, if I may. Just the first one, sorry to stick on China, but can we talk a little bit about cost flexibility because I guess this is a key difference between China and the rest of the world. And I'm curious, given the volume decline you saw in Q2, did China stay profitable, did the joint venture stay profitable in Q2? And if so, can you tell us how you manage that? How flexible is that versus North America versus Germany?

And then the second question, I noticed in the other, in the walk, that there was a more favorable positioning on warranty, which has been a bit of a trend. I'm just wondering whether or not with the increase in recall rate that we've seen in the U.S. Is that warranty tailwind likely to continue or potentially reverse in the second half?

Good morning, Mike. And yes, we were able to hear you. Thank you. Both questions will be going to Walter. Your first, with regards to available flexibility in China. You asked how we were actually managing that and whether we remain profitable in China itself. And the question then one item under others, warranty whether there was any correlation between the improvements we see there and also recall rates in the U.S. So Walter, please, if you don't mind.

While China flexibility is all based on costs, first of all, and that we started our homework already the year before last year. So we have positive effects year-on-year on the cost side for the production like we just mentioned beforehand. And with respect to the joint venture profitability, we are still profitable in the joint venture. It's positive, not as positive as it was a year ago, but it's still positive, contributing to our group profit. I think that is a fundamental message.

And with respect to the warranty side, we are running worldwide our warranty costs. And even you see increased recall rates in the U.S., it's obviously a question one recall is not costing the same. So we are still recognizing that we have a good run rate, a positive fund compared year-on-year. So I can't see any reverse actions in the second half year you're asking for.

We will now go back to Stephen Reitman at Bernstein.

Stephen Reitman from Bernstein. I think the technologies are working now. I have 2 questions, please. First of all, Milan, about using changes in the supply structures and how that's moved on in terms of the offering technology solutions. Obviously, we think about particularly in China -- in terms of China. But we also talk about the potential also in your other European operations as well?

And secondly, again, looking at your European footprint, are you happy with the mix of high-cost and low-cost locations? I'm also saying that in the context of your competitor that's recently doubled its capacity in Hungary, obvious plant. Obviously, you have your Debrecen plant, which I believe is capacitized by 150,000 units.

Good morning, Stephen. And yes, this time around, we were able to hear you, and we took note of both questions. I will actually hand both of them to Milan due to his most recent responsibility within the company before becoming our CEO. With regard to the changes in buyer structures, you were wondering whether there are any potentials in other European operations beyond specific China supply chains. And the second one then whether we were happy with our mix within regionally in the European region. So Milan, please?

So Stefan, thank you very much for these questions. Concerning the supplier structures, it's not only the structuring of the supply base. It's about the way we work together. So in general, there are 2 core aspects if we talk about supply chain. One is, how do we create the contracts with them. And if the contracts are more based on long-term partnerships, there is high potential for finding common standards, which allow us to optimize for both of the partners, the manufacturing costs of these components, and the basis would allow us to significantly reduce the cost level irrespective where the supplier is located.

The second, of course, inside Europe, we have different price level in different countries. And since we have a new plant in Debrecen, our approach will, of course, be to localize more suppliers in that area and to optimize the cost base of these new settlements. And that, again, would allow us to get a good supply also for the European and the German plants out of that location. So these are the core elements of the idea, and it doesn't change the complete structure of the supply chain, but it does change the significant elements, which give us a high potential for cost saving.

If we come to the European footprint, yes, I mean this element I just said is one of the elements where we want to utilize in a better way, the different low-cost locations of Europe. But looking on to our own manufacturing network and our plants in Germany, our approach is in the last decade already, to highly optimize, optimize and improve the efficiency of our plants. That's why, for instance, in Regensburg and Dingolfing, we did reduce the cost per unit by 25% over the last 5 years. That's a significant improvement, which again shows how much potential we have in getting it right in Germany. So we don't plan to change our footprint dramatically. Our way forward is more to utilize the equipment we have in a better way.

And when you say reducing cost per unit, are you talking about the factor cost per unit?

We are -- the cost per unit in our case is the complete expenditure we have or expense we have for one plant. It's including the cost of people, the cost of energy, the cost of supplies, depreciation all in. So costs for a plant divided through volume produced in the plant and that's the basis. So it's all in.

The next question is from Christian Frenes at Goldman Sachs.

Yes. Can you hear me?

We can hear you well, Christian.

Perfect. I've got 2 questions. One on restructuring and stabilization of the P&L and the second on China. My first question, if I understood the media call this morning correctly, your full year restructuring is expected to be about 125 basis points of auto sales. So that -- I don't think there was anything in Q2. I assume it implies roughly 250 basis points of restructuring activity in H2. And using company compiled consensus that would imply an underlying automotive operating margin of 3.4%, which is somewhat close to the 3.6% reported in H1. I'm just wondering 2 things. Is the 250 restructuring basis points correct in H2? Is that assumption correct? And would you -- as you look into 2027, expect a stabilization of the P&L? Is that something that we could assume?

And then my second question, very briefly on China, obviously, we've seen the Chinese ICE market collapse post Iran conflict. And I'm just curious what your thoughts are on the Chinese ICE market as we move into '27? And what proportion of your China offering will actually be BEV or EV based in '27?

Thank you, Christian, for your questions. I would hand both to Walter. However, with the caveat, Christian, since we are talking half year 2026, we would like to focus on 2026. So your question about balance sheet and P&L in 2027, we would not answer at this moment in time. Also what are our specific thoughts on China in 2027 since we will come to guidance at a later point in time. But obviously, the first question you had with the overall amount for 2026 and how that plays into our expectation for the second half of 2026, Walter will be answering that.

Christian, so just to clarify, our disclosure, we did on Note 22. We have an EBIT impact of up to 1.25%. And this is a year's number, but most likely only at the end of the second half year. That one for the clarification and our guidance, which we confirmed based on our June message and their talk is 1% to 3%, and this includes 1.25 EBIT points for our restructuring program.

And the second one, you've got the base feedback for '27 already from Stefan. And with that, I think we'll go to the next question.

I would like to add though, Christian, obviously, that we put a lot of high hopes into the iX3 starting in China at the end of Q4, so that will surely have an effect in 2027, as we've mentioned a couple of times already.

The next question is from Stuart Pearson at Oxcap Analytics.

So a couple -- one more strategic, I guess, to start with. And just the capital intensity of the new strategic plan when we get to it and how we should think about that. Just listening to you just talk a little bit about, I guess, the improved supplier offer, reducing complexity. I mean, historically, premium carmakers seem to have slightly higher R&D spend to a certain degree, CapEx. I mean, is that something that could change going forward, perhaps we could see even more outsourcing from BMW and obviously, your R&D and CapEx has eased a little bit in recent years, but can that continue? Or in fact, could be a plan where we need to see some more investments, just how to think about capital intensity?

And then the second question, just quick on residual values, how do you flag some issues there. I wonder if you're seeing anything on residual values that's weaker anywhere that's worth flagging? And also, how you think about the residual values that you're offering in leases for the new Neue Klasse EV range, wherever you're taking more conservative starts there until we get some more visibility in the market.

Good morning, Stuart, and thank you very much for your 2 questions, which I will both hand to Walter. The first one was whether we were fundamentally changing approaches that premium car manufacturers have been doing or have been doing so far with regards to capital intensity, even you mentioned outsourcing potentially at some point. Walter will be handling that.

And the second one, you asked about residual values, also specifically there, whether with regards to the Neue Klasse and the iX3 that is on the market already -- ready, whether we were taking a more conservative approach to residual values. Walter, please.

Stuart, while with respect to the CapEx intensity you asked for the R&D, we are having long range, still the same what we mentioned in July. We will come into our strategic corridors, and that means on both elements, less than 5%. We are heading into the strategic corridors, and we will hit that. There is no intention to elevate this 5% again as we had to do during the course of the Neue Klasse implementation on CapEx as well as on R&D. So we are still sticking to our strategic corridor. And that means between 4% and 5% for the R&D side and less than 5% on the CapEx side. So that is clear.

On the residual value side, you also recognize that we mentioned permanently less positive than previous year, and that is still the case. So month-on-month, we can see that it's less positive. But the trend is different in all regions. Let's take a look on the U.S., for example. We assumed EV cars will deteriorate, but you recognize for the last 4 months that the deterioration is not happening, not in the way we expected. So it is positive from that perspective with respect to our expectation. U.K. market is totally different because the U.K. has a different scenery. You know the ZEV mandates, they are elevating permanently. So there's more pressure on the new cars on ICE. And of course, every OEM has to organize its BEV share. Otherwise, we pay GBP 15,000 penalty per car, which we are not achieving.

So hence, there is an effect on the used car market. And that, of course, is not so positive. But under the line, we see that it is less positive than previously. And with respect to the way we are starting our contracts, maybe there might be some differences in having contracts on the balance sheet, but we always have a base understanding for the year, when we receive the car back. So let's say, usually, we have 36 months. So we assume permanently which car has to be evaluated for in 36 months to return and which market rate we assume there.

So -- and of course, quarterly, we revaluate the total portfolio ending up with plus or minus or have to adjust further provisions. And based on our disclosures, it's around EUR 2.25 billion on extra provisions for. All the rest is running on an ordinary depreciation from key zero to key end of contract. So I think we are utilizing that not differently across the models, but we evaluate every model independently anyway. I hope that helps and is not confusing.

The next question is from Daniel Schwarz at Metzler.

First would be on cash flow to Walter, the other cash flow line that was a large part of the free cash flow. You mentioned, I think, earlier that interest received was one factor. Could you maybe provide more details? Is that a factor that could swing negative in the second half? And the other one is a follow-up on China. You mentioned JV was profitable in Q2. Including part component sales and imported vehicles, is it fair to assume that profitability in China is still clearly above the average for the rest of the group?

Good morning, Daniel, and thank you very much for your questions. Both obviously will go to Walter. First one on cash flow. You asked about a specific part of the others bucket, Walter will be elaborating on that. And the second one, then you extended the previous question with regards to the joint venture in China asking about all the other items that we have with regards to our business in China. And Walter, please go ahead.

So with respect to the free cash flow, you're right. Other bucket with interest and expense accrued could be also a calendarization effect that is positive and negative. So it could be different in the second half year. On the other side, we shouldn't forget and underestimate that we are going to unwind our working capital burden, which we see in Q2. So that will be unwind based on the direction of start-of-year levels. There is a potential, and we shouldn't forget that also CapEx will be lower than the depreciation also in Q3 and also in Q4. So these are positive effects on the free cash flow.

With respect to the China joint venture, parts and imported vehicles. Imported vehicles are not done by the joint venture, but by our national sales company, which is owned 100%. And I can also confirm that on parts and import vehicles, we are also positive and profitable in China, also on group level.

And our final question is from Horst Schneider at Bank of America.

I hope you can hear me. It's Horst from Bank of America. I have got 2 questions. One is a follow-up to Walter, it's a follow-up basically to Christian Frenes' question. I tried from a different perspective. Could you maybe explain Walter, what is changing in H2 versus H1? When we see all these bridges, there's always a year-on-year effect, and I sometimes struggle with the base because the base is also changing. So therefore, could you maybe outline what is changing sequentially? So it can be on volumes, on price mix, on raw mats, on FX, on other cost changes, that would be helpful for doing the forecast.

The number 2 is a question to Milan. Milan, we discussed with your predecessor, Oliver Zipse, always this growth aspect. And Oliver always said, growth is most important for BMW. And I would agree for car company what matters most is how many cars you sell, but what are your thoughts on scale? Is it still important for an auto company to have a certain level of scale? You think BMW needs to increase the scale or rather reduce the scale because if you look, for example, at your brands, it looks to me that MINI is loss-making. So is that a brand really that BMW needs long term?

Good morning, Horst, and thank you very much for your questions today, bringing up the rear of our call. Let me phrase your first question. It sounds like a controlling question to me actually that you were asking whether we could build another bridge just for you, a sequential one, H1 to H2. I think Walter will obviously elaborate on that. And then the second question, more about growth in general. And just on a personal note, your last comment there about MINI that surely hurt me personally.

I know, Stefan.

Having owned the MINI brand for a while.

I know, Stefan. I apologize. I know you're a big MINI fan.

Yes. You will have to make up at some point.

And my wife drives a MINI, I can say that. My wife drives a MINI. The family is a MINI fan.

Please get her a new one. Okay. Walter, please you go ahead.

Hello, Horst. So it's quite interesting. You're asking for this extra bridge for the second half year, which I'm not presenting to you. But I give you, of course, an assumption. So we always mentioned -- but on FX and commodities, we still see a headwind in the second half year versus the previous year's second half year, right? But we also mentioned less on FX, but if you remember in our ad-hoc messages, rather on commodities.

So the commodity was hardly any impact first half year versus previous year. But based on all the situation and elevated prices on the commodity side, not everything is hedgeable as you know, and we do do commodity hedging wherever possible, but there's still a headwind in the second half year based on that. So first of all, on this and the volume and the mix and the price, I will tell you that in November.

And coming to your question of growth, I mean growth is important. It's a natural thing. The growing organism is something which is biologically a good thing. However, for us, growth is not a target in itself. It's a result of the business. And that's why our target is more to offer a good product range, which is convincing to our customers. And with the upcoming [indiscernible] derivatives in the market, we do see potential for growth.

Of course, we are aware of the headwinds we are facing in the different regions and especially in China. But nevertheless, for us, we do see growth also in future as a core element, but not as a stand-alone target or the core target of our company.

Thank you very much, Milan. I think it was a very suitable question to end our Q&A session. We are at the end of the Q&A session. Thank you to all of you out there for making the time to participate and also especially my thanks to Milan and Walter for sharing your insights. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to our friendly Investor Relations team. We wish you a great remainder of the day, all the best from Munich.

Dear colleagues. Welcome back to the second part of our earnings call, we are going to continue in German, but there is English translation. We are looking forward to hearing your questions. As always, we will give you some technical remarks, and then we will have the first question answered.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now start with the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Now we would like to have the first question.

Our first question comes from Christina Amann from Reuters.

Good morning to Munich. Welcome, Mr. Nedeljkovic. Great to hear your speech. Yesterday, you announced that jobs will be cut, and you said you're going to dive deeper into the topic. Now you mentioned a measure yesterday. Can you put a figure to it? What do we expect and as of when?

And then what number are we talking about, number of jobs. Yesterday, in Germany, we heard 8,000. Could you please confirm? And what about worldwide and China?

Now you pointed out that the entire company will be reorganized the business model, the structures, you would like to have a more stable setup, could you give us some details. Now you're talking about technology models that will be revised why are you going to focus on? What processes could just be omitted? Where do you see the possibilities of partnerships. And the main thing is -- the main topic, the other one is also China. BMW has difficulties in China just like others right now. So what are you doing in order to improve the situation? How long will it take and when will we see results?

Mrs. Amann. Thank you very much for your questions. I hand over to Milan Nedeljkovic. You asked a lot of questions, and to answer all of them will take too long. We will keep it brief because we have a lot of colleagues in the call, and please ask a maximum of 2 questions because we would like to hear all of you and all of your questions. So Milan, over to you.

Mrs. Amann. Thank you very much for your greetings to Munich. Thank you. Now your questions. Concerning the figures, we are not going to confirm anything. The mentioned figures are not the ones that we issued. Now we are a bit hesitant because it's not just a simple program. And we don't have overhang in the workforce and can derive how many jobs can be cut. The reduction program, it goes hand in hand with a reformation program in the company. And in this program, we analyze the core processes, sales processes, procurement, purchase development, technology.

So in the context of this transformation, we analyze possibilities. So where can the processes get leaner? How can we use digital means? And in principle, we have to reanalyze the setup of the processes. They have to be redefined. So we see the need for restructuring internally. There will be new qualifications and organizational units will be bundled. So all of this is a comprehensive program, and it's accompanied by the severance program, which we are going to launch. So one goes hand in hand with the other. We are on good and constructive path with our social partner.

We are going to initiate this process. Hence, we cannot give you any specific figure. Now the lever is we see a lot of potential. It's not just about cutting jobs. This is one element to be faster and more effective. But the potentials as seen in our setup and how we design the product and in the processes with purchasing and our own production.

Now you had a question on China. Well, this year and last year, we changed the substance of our products and our products themselves. The content was reevaluated. We increased the value. We also changed the dealers network and we found the bottom line, so to speak, which has been persistent for the past months. However, in the second quarter, we had the downturn and it's not just a downturn that we see only with us.

Now it's just the market development of the ICEs in China. Now, of course, 39% in June in comparison to the previous year months, this, of course, was a heavy impact. Now market share, our matters are relatively well accompanied and welcomed, and we are now on the market with Neue Klasse. The Neue Klasse will get the ramp up in China at the end of the year. So it's a possibility for us to position ourselves on the market.

Okay. There was one more question. When will we see results, our first results, I hand over to Walter Mertl to give an answer -- principal answer to this question.

Mr. Amann, I'm sure you're aware of our guidance for the year is 1% to 3% of the EBIT margin and 1.25% is contained for the variance programs. And we can explain it later on or maybe in March for 2027 when we set the guidance for 2027.

We are looking forward to the next question. The next question comes from Sebastien Ash from the Financial Times.

Good morning also from my side. Now you talked about a change in the organizational structure, Mr. Nedeljkovic, could you please give us some details? You said that you're going to use AI more and more, you said this in your presentation. So what functions shall be replaced by AI. In this context, I would be interested to know more about consulting services, you are commissioning consulting services. Now the restructuring reorganization processes in comparison to the past years. Have you used less of those services? And is the savings potential maybe also by using AI in this regard?

Milan?

Well, the organizational change does not target one single unit. It's about restructuring our processes and the way we work. Just one example to show you into what direction we are heading. Well, we have a high degree of specialization in many departments. Hence, we have a lot of sharing the work. Now to resolve this is very difficult because each department has a very high competence. Now here, we can use AI. We can use AI agents, we can use supporting AI tools. This way, we can provide more information to individual employees. This way, they can better bundle their functions and their responsibilities, and this makes the decision process faster.

Now if the organization has many small details, of course, then we can have smaller teams to fulfill comprehensive tasks. This makes us faster and more cost effective. Now this is our principle, and this principle applies to all of the processes in the company. So we would like to implement this one by one. We have very good approaches. And you are saying consulting services. Well, of course, we're going to be supported by experts. We get benchmarks. We try to learn from other industries and the overall package from all of this enables us to harvest potentials.

Okay. Next question comes from Christof Rührmair from DPA.

Mr. Amann asked a lot of questions that I actually was planning to ask. Thank you. Now I would like to talk about the details of the severance program. So as far as I know, it's a nonspecific one. So there is the possibility, some call it an open program. As a result, the best ones will usually go because they will find a new job soon.

Why did you pick this variant? So you are going to focus on local for local. Does that mean that from Europe, from Germany, you will go out in the upcoming years -- go out more? Or am I interpreting this too much? Then one minor details. The FX effects that you mentioned, Mr. Mertl, does this apply just to the dollar? Or does this also apply to other currencies as well?

First, Mr. Nedeljkovic and then Mr. Mertl. Milan, you have the floor.

Good morning, Mr. Rührmair. Now you mentioned the severance program. Well, we agreed with our social partner to have or to offer an open program. So it applies to the indirect functions within BMW AG. The employees receive an offer in the form of a piece of information. They will be informed what the value is, if they decide to leave the company. However, there's also an agreement that some key functions are not included in this offer. However, it's going to be very broad and offers the possibility to accept this to every employee.

Now the employees are also flexible in their decisions to change within the company. It's also part of the agreement because if an employee leaves a role, but this role is still necessary, then a colleague will resume this role, and they are going to further develop into that role. So this is our common understanding that we agreed on, and this flexibility matches the BMW flexibility. It's one of our strengths.

So local for local, this is one element which we -- well, in China, we intensify the local dealers, and we harvest their potential more. So we focus on the local production in China. In Europe -- we stay in Europe. We don't want to deliver into other areas from Europe. We stay in Europe, and we are going to further enhance our footprint here.

There was a question to Walter.

Well, you talked about the FX effects. They have an effect not just concerning the dollar, but also for the Korean rand and the yen. And the renminbi. Please don't forget, we have a full consolidation of our joint venture. Hence, the renminbi in the loss and profit and in the balance sheet, it has an effect, whether it's about translation or conversion or at the effective date, there's a fundamental difference to others which might do equity consolidation. So for us, it's more than just the dollar.

The next question comes from Stephen Wilmot from the Wall Street Journal.

I have 2 questions. First, please tell me more about the development of the BMW business model because there are going to be market changes. And you talked about those changes during the last months. And then second, you just talked about local for local, and you mentioned Europe and China. Now could you please also tell us what that means for North America? So are you planning to localize the production in the United States a bit more? So in the United States and Mexico, I should say.

Milan Nedeljkovic, you have the floor.

Mr. Wilmot, let me start with your second question because before I already talked about local for local. Now we have a strong footprint in all of the regions. We have the largest plant in the United States with the production of the iX, and we also enhanced our footprint there. We have a very good dealer network and right now -- and supplier network, and we are not planning any changes of our footprint in that region.

Now with the new [ XMF ] generation, so X generation that we have in Woodruff, we set up a new site for the high-voltage storage assembly. And with this assembly plant, we further developed our footprint in the United States. Now the business model. Whenever we say business model, we focus on our processes. And one thing is going to change, namely our sales concept with the direct sales, which we set up for the MINI and which is very successful in the market. So we're going to plan it for BMW step by step. So direct sales is one of the major changes in our business activities. And this, yes, for me is one part within the EU. Now just to complement this, this applies to Europe.

Next question comes from Felix Stippler from Handelsblatt.

I have one question concerning the effect from the tariff reimbursements, which started in Q2. This is what you see in your annual report, financial report. What is the amount of the effect? Then 2 questions on China. Yesterday, the GLA was presented, but it shall not be offered in China. What is the future of compact models from BMW? Will they exist in the future in China?

And then just briefly, a figure. Now what is your planned sales volume in that region?

Sales model in China, what do you mean exactly? Mr. Stippler?

Sorry, I was on mute. Yes. China, yes. What is the level of sales after the downturn now that you would like to see again?

Okay. sales level. Yes. Okay. So tariff reimbursement, Walter Mertl.

Well, in the course of May until the beginning of June, there was an agreement about the procedures with the tariff authorities for Section 232 with how we deal with the credits going forward when we -- and then also the EPA reimbursement. The first payment were already made in the immaterial sector. And in the second half of the year in the fourth quarter, not so much of the third quarter, there will be more payments. Now in March, we already pointed out that the cash is balanced, which we already booked in the profit and loss, and we have a debt in our balance sheet.

Okay. China, the future of contact models in China and the sales prognosis, Milan, you have the floor.

Mr. Stippler, well, I talked about China just before, I already said that with Neue Klasse, we have very good momentum. And we have the iX3 and other models in China, and the feedback from the customers is highly positive. In social media and also in other media, we see a lot of good feedback. Our dealers are also highly interested. And the sale is about to start.

So we can't really give you a prognosis. We can't really say how it's going to develop, but we are highly optimistic concerning the Neue Klasse. We think that we are going to be very successful with this in China.

Okay. Next question, please. The next question comes from Martin Hesse from Der Spiegel.

I have one question concerning China coming from the other direction. The Chinese competitors will be competitors in your segment in Europe. The market share has increased clearly, the market share of Chinese competitors in your segment, what do you expect in this regard? And now restructuring measures, in what type of scenario would you have to discuss the production and maybe savings in production. Other manufacturers can also change working times, higher flexibility or maybe going to 40 hours per week, what do you think?

Milan, you have the floor.

Good morning, Mr. Hesse. Let me give you an answer to your questions. Competitors from China and Europe. Of course, we see that the Chinese competitors have increasing sales figures for Europe. Right now, this does not yet have a direct impact on our figures. So we are not directly affected not yet by this development. Of course, we have to keep an eye on the development of the market, and we are preparing for this. We are staying competitive in terms of the content in our portfolio.

Now restructuring, as I said, it concerns the indirect functions, and we have a very flexible management for the plant. This is one of our traditional strengths. And right now, we have 3 shifts in some plants in Germany. So this is a differentiating factor from our competitors. And this will be driven by the product momentum by the Neue Klasse for the upcoming years. We will have 40 new models within the next 2 years, which are going to be rolled out. So I'm not really concerned about the capacity of our production plants. They are well set up.

Working times, 40 hours per week. Well, we have a very high flexibility of our working time models in the central areas and also at the other side. We have a very broad working times account and this provides a high flexibility. Also, if the need changes, the need for volumes, we can react to changes in the market in a flexible manner. So there is no need for a change in this regard, not for now.

Walter?

Let me add something I would like to underline, we are growing in Europe with more than 7%, and we are growing in the Americas also with more than 9%, so this underlines our competitiveness, even though other Chinese competitors have growth in the 2 digits or 3 digits, it doesn't matter. We are growing as well. I would like to underline this.

Next question, please. Next question comes from Tim Loh from Bloomberg News.

You already talked about the feedback in China, feedback concerning Neue Klasse. Could you tell us something about the price strategy. Of course, there is an intense competition in China. Some people say it's a race for customers driven by the price. So my question is, is BMW even able to make profits given all of this. So how -- by how much would you lower the price in China? And then second question, so would you also accept losses in China just to gain the customers.

I hand over to Walter Mertl. Walter, You have the floor.

Good morning, Mr. Loh. The first feedback concerning the Neue Klasse and the iX3 in the long version, long wheelbase extremely -- is extremely positive, the feedback. And the version that will be sold will get tested very soon. Now of course, we are not going to mention any prices. They're going to be officially announced and we will announce the price as close to the start of sales as possible. That's how we normally do it.

Good. Thank you. Next question. The next question comes from Andreas Höß, Munchner Merkur.

Two questions. First, the job program does not apply to the ones in production. The FIZ has 25,000 employees more or less, the FIZ in Munich, and they are not working in production. They are designers, software developers, et cetera, et cetera. Now this job program, what will the effect be on F-I-Z, the FIZ? Now second question. The other competitors are reducing the model portfolio to have savings in the production and to also reduce the price, the individualization options are cut or reduced. Is that an option for you as well?

Milan, you have the floor.

So I already talked about the program, the severance program. I talked about the principles. It's not about identifying individual areas where there are going to be cuts. It's about the principal reorganization of the way we work. This applies to the F-I-Z or the FIZ as well. It applies to administration. It applies to indirect workforce. And the result of this new process enables us to make savings to harvest potentials. So it's a developing process. We are going to focus on it in the next 12 to 18 months, and we're going to harvest the potentials.

Now the model portfolio, of course, we are a premium manufacturer. So there is a high variance for the customers and the products are highly individual. This characterizes us. We're not planning to make any reductions of the portfolio or to cut the individual offers. Nevertheless, it's about profitability of the derivatives on a global level. That is what we also focus on. We also look at the drivetrain variants and the product models in individual market forces will be reanalyzed.

Next question comes from [ Christoph Kapczynski ] from Die Welt.

One question. You said you're going to assess drivetrain variance on a global level. Does this apply just to individual variants? Or could you maybe not offer BEVs in the United States or no longer have ICEs in Europe? What does that exactly mean?

Milan, you have the floor.

Well, this statement does not apply to entire drivetrain concepts or product portfolios. It applies specifically to the market, to countries, to sales regions. We check whether a drivetrain variance, the content of the vehicle or individual derivatives, which do not match the market whether those can be withdrawn from the market. But it's not persistent. It doesn't mean that we are not going to offer an entire drivetrain. Now you're challenging the BEVs as a whole. This is not what I meant.

We will accept 3 more questions. Okay. Next question. Next question comes from Stefan Radomski from [indiscernible].

Can you all hear me?

Yes, we can hear you. Just continue with your question.

Okay. Two questions. Mr. Nedeljkovic, before you said that you're going to analyze things because of this restructuring, which were not analyzed before. What are you specifically referring to? What's was inconceivable to analyze or to touch in the past and what you're going to do now? And then second question, yesterday, we heard a report which said that the managers, because of the austerity program, are going to have just 30 hours per week, and this will also reduce their wage. Now could you confirm this?

And could you tell us how many employees will be affected and what the expected savings volume is?

Milan, you have the floor.

Now something that could not be touched. Well, that was my statement. Everything can be reanalyzed and touched. Now let me just give you an example to explain. Every company has a certain culture. And of course, we have a high product fidelity. So we focus on every component. And we focus on the development. Some things, you don't have to develop yourself. It's about standardization. So things that you like and love and that you love doing can be omitted and then just purchased. So that's one example, which I meant by what I said.

Now of course, there is also a potential for change in our processes and in our content. We can redefine those. Now you mentioned the managers, the executives, while the executives and managers are not directly affected by this because they don't have working times. They are very sovereign when it comes -- and flexible when it comes to their working times, but they are still part of the severance program.

Next question comes from Frank Volk from Automobilwoche.

Mr. Mertl, you said before that we are growing in Europe and in the United States. That's dynamic. But it has turned out, but you are not -- that you can't grow as fast as you are losing business in China. Now my question concerns the production. We talk a lot about the dealers' network and a new focus. However, the plant capacity in the joint venture plant in China is at a very low level. So what is planned? Will there be adjustments in the production network in China as well, just to be very direct.

And then one follow-up question, just a small one. You mentioned in your speech. What did you say, the entire value chain was analyzed in order to find the potentials to be more efficient. Now this analysis, in what time period was it done?

Okay. We start with Walter Mertl. You have the floor.

Mr. Volk, now the Chinese production structure, I can only say that the cost structures are fundamentally different from the rest of the world. This has to be accepted in the first step. Of course, we have already made adjustments already last year, and again, this year, we react to the market situation. And hence, we can deal with this in a flexible manner. So we make adjustments step by step.

Milan, what about the value creation chain?

Well, before I said that the processes -- that the analysis of the processes in the next 12 to -- well last for the next 12 to 18 months. So pretty fast, we will have the first approaches. We are already in the implementation stage, and now we take a process by process until the end of next year, the transformation process should be implemented.

Last question. The last question comes from [indiscernible].

It's not just about the cost for me but also the earnings. Now to which extent is BMW willing to enter the fight for prices in China because the competitors are also in Europe. Are you going to adjust the prices of the models, can we expect a lowering of the prices?

Greetings to [indiscernible], and I hand over to Walter Mertl.

Good morning. So in the past 18 months, we worked on our products. We broadened the products. We also changed the list -- reduce the list prices and the transaction prices were kept. First, it was large discounts then less, but the transaction prices, this is key for the dealers, where independent dealers were kept. And we are still on the price level of the first quarter of last year. That's also positive news.

As for the rest, it principally applies that prices and profit has to be in balance. And the profit doesn't just come from the BMW Group, but also from the dealers. This has to be taken into account. Otherwise, the entire business model doesn't work. We are partners. So in this system, we are well set up.

Yes, that's a good concluding remark. I would like to thank Walter Mertl. Dear colleagues, this brings us to the end of our call. Thank you for your participation. I wish you a good rest of the day, and have a great summer, great holidays, and we will be back soon. All the best from Munich.

[Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]

Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the telephone conference of the BMW Group. Today, we have here Milan Nedeljkovic, Chairman of the Board of Management and our CFO, Walter Mertl. First, Walter will take you through our financial results. Milan will then give you a general business update for the BMW Group. After a short break, we will then have time for our Q&A sessions. And now, Walter, please go ahead.

Thank you, Max. Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Our second quarter results reflect the challenging market conditions. The BMW Group is currently facing, as outlined in our ad-hoc communication on June 16. During the quarter, both Chinese automotive markets and BMW Group retail sales in China continued to decline. At the same time, higher export volumes from China increased competitive intensity in other markets with a particular impact on our business in the Asia Pacific region.

Together with the effects of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, these developments weighed on both our sales and financial performance. While BMW Group deliveries increased by 7.6% in Europe, and 11.9% in the U.S., this was not sufficient to offset the decline in China and Asia Pacific.

The group revenues amounted to EUR 31.3 billion in the second quarter and EUR 62.3 billion in the first 6 months. Group earnings before tax totaled EUR 1.7 billion, a decline of 35% compared to the second quarter of last year. Year-to-date through June, Group earnings before tax declined by 29.4% year-on-year to around EUR 4 billion. This resulted in a group EBITDA margin of 5.4% in the second quarter and 6.5% for the first half of the year.

In the Automotive segment, EBIT amounted to EUR 629 million in the second quarter, corresponding to a reported EBIT margin of 2.3%. This reported margin includes a burden from elevated tariffs of 1.25 percentage points in the second quarter. It also includes the depreciation from the BBA purchase price allocation, which reduced the EBIT margin by 1.2 percentage points. After 6 months, Automotive EBIT amounted to around EUR 2 billion with an EBIT margin of 3.6%.

Let me now provide more detail on the performance of Automotive segment. In the second quarter, the BMW Group delivered around 591,000 BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers, 4.9% less than in the same quarter last year. Looking at the development by brands. BMW delivered around 509,000 vehicles in the second quarter, down 7.7% year-on-year, but the MINI brand continued to perform well. Deliveries were up 17.1% compared to the prior year quarter, supported by strong demand for our all-electric MINI models.

This brings me to our BEV retail sales. Between April and June, the BMW Group delivered around 117,000 all-electric vehicles to customers worldwide, including plug-in hybrids, sales of electrified vehicles amounted to around 163,000 units. This corresponds to a BEV share of 19.8% and an electrified vehicle share of 27.6% of total Group deliveries in the second quarter.

Europe remains the main growth driver for our all-electric vehicle sales. Supported by the start of customer deliveries of the all-new BMW iX3, BEV sales in Europe increased by 38% year-on-year to more than 81,000 units. Almost 1 in 3 vehicles sold in Europe was all-electric. This BEV performance in Europe supports our expectation that we will once again meet our CO2 emission targets in the EU in 2026.

Automotive segment revenues declined by 7.7% to EUR 27.2 billion in the second quarter. The decrease was primarily driven by lower sales volumes and also reflects the highly competitive market environment.

Let's now take a closer look at our sales performance across the major regions. In Europe, our largest sales region, retail sales increased by 7.6% year-on-year. In the Americas, retail sales increased by 9.4% year-on-year, driven primarily by the U.S., where deliveries grew significantly by 11.9%. In the U.S., the BMW brand once again outperformed the overall market in the second quarter. Higher deliveries of vehicles with internal combustion engines more than offset lower BEV sales.

In China, a downturn in the automotive market accelerated further during the second quarter, predominantly in the non-electrified vehicle segment. In this highly competitive environment, BMW Group retail sales declined by 30.2% between April and June. For the first 6 months, retail sales in China were down 20.4%, in line with the overall market decline of 20.2%.

Against this backdrop, our focus remains on achieving the right balance between sales volumes, transaction prices and profitability for both the BMW Group and our dealer partners. In our sales region Asia-Pacific, Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, deliveries declined by around 9,000 vehicles or 10.9% year-on-year. Several markets in the region were affected by spillover effects from China as well as weaker consumer sentiment resulting from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

Let's now take a closer look at the year-on-year development of automotive EBIT on the following slide. Changes in currencies had a negative impact of around EUR 400 million on EBIT, while raw material positions were broadly neutral compared to the prior year quarter. The adverse FX developments seen in the first quarter continued into Q2 as expected. We expect FX headwinds also in the second half of the year, although at a lower level than in the first 6 months.

The net effect of volume, model mix and pricing resulted in a negative impact of around EUR 1.8 billion compared to Q2 2025. A large share of this impact was related to China, which was also the main driver behind our guidance update in June. Besides lower sales volumes, the decline in this position mainly reflects the highly competitive market environment, across a number of regions, as well as weaker consumer sentiment in selected markets. Since we fully consolidate BBA, the current headwinds from our business in China are fully reflected in Automotive EBIT.

Research and development expenses recognized in the P&L increased by around EUR 100 million year-on-year. This was mainly due to an increase in depreciation of around EUR 150 million related to capitalized development costs from previous years. As in the first quarter, group R&D expenditure remained below the prior year level in Q2. Total R&D expenditure amounted to less than EUR 2 billion, a decrease of 3.8% year-on-year. This is in line with the trend of R&D and capital expenditure reduction that will continue for the remainder of the year. The R&D ratio according to the German Commercial Code came in at 6.3% for the second quarter and 6.0% for the first half of the year.

Reducing our operating cost base remains an important priority. Accordingly, selling and administrative expenses decreased by around EUR 200 million year-on-year in Q2. Other cost changes provided a positive effect of around EUR 1.2 billion, compared to the second quarter of 2025. This reflects a number of factors, including lower warranty and manufacturing costs as well as tariff-related effects.

Overall, we reduced expenditure by EUR 400 million in the second quarter and EUR 900 million year-to-date through June. So Automotive EBIT for the second quarter amounted to around EUR 629 million. And after 6 months, it totaled EUR 2 billion.

The free cash flow in the Automotive segment amounted to around EUR 500 million in the second quarter of 2026. The net change in working capital reduced free cash flow by around EUR 1.3 billion. This was due to an inventory buildup during the quarter as production exceeded sales volumes. We have already made the necessary adjustments to our production planning, with the objective of bringing inventories back towards the prior year level by year-end.

The net effect of capital expenditure and depreciation contributed around EUR 600 million to free cash flow. As in the first quarter, depreciation exceeded declining capital expenditure in Q2, providing a positive contribution to free cash flow. Throughout the year 2026, depreciation will remain above capital expenditure. The CapEx ratio was 4.1% for the second quarter and 3.1% for the first 6 months.

In the first half of the year, we have reduced CapEx by more than 30%. The change in provisions reduced free cash flow by EUR 500 million in Q2. This includes the consumption of warranty provisions. Other items increased free cash flow by EUR 1.1 billion. This position covers multiple topics, including accrued expenses and interest received. So in the first 6 months, free cash flow amounted to EUR 1.3 billion. And for the full year, the BMW Group is targeting an Automotive free cash flow above EUR 2.5 billion.

Ladies and gentlemen, the BMW Group remains committed to its shareholder return strategy, which includes both dividend payments and share buybacks. We completed the second tranche of our third share buyback program on June 26, 2 months ahead of the original schedule. The third and final tranche started on July 1 and is expected to be completed no later than November 30, 5 months earlier than originally scheduled. Once completed, third share buyback will have reached its full volume of EUR 2 billion.

For 2026, this represents a capital return of EUR 1.25 billion to our shareholders under the current share buyback program. And this acceleration of the third tranche underlines our focused approach to capital allocation.

At the BMW Group, we take a long-term perspective to create sustained value for all our stakeholders. For us, financial performance and responsible business management go hand-in-hand. Alongside our environmental commitments, this also means maintaining high social and ethical standards across our operations and supply chains worldwide. In an evolving competitive landscape, we believe that customers worldwide will increasingly value these standards as an important differentiating factor.

Let's now turn to our Financial Services segment. In the first half of the year, a number of new contracts concluded with retail customers increased by 5% to 866,000 contracts as the penetration rate for lease and loan products increased to 52.9% in the first 6 months. This development was supported by changes in the competitive environment in China since mid-2025, local banks have significantly reduced commissions related to the brokering of financing and insurance products for end customers.

Adjusted for FX effects, total new business volume grew by 6.1% to about EUR 33 billion. Segment earnings for the first half of the year amounted to around EUR 1 billion, down 15.4% year-on-year. This decline was mainly driven by an addition to an existing provision for a consumer compensation program in the U.K. in the first quarter. In the second quarter, Financial Services earnings increased by 15.7% year-on-year, supported by this larger portfolio volume. In the first half of the year, the credit loss ratio across the entire credit portfolio remained low at 0.27%.

In the Motorcycles segment, deliveries declined slightly by 1.9% year-on-year and segment EBIT increased to EUR 141 million, resulting in an EBIT margin of 15.2%.

Ladies and gentlemen, based on the results for the first half of the year, we confirm our updated full year guidance communicated in June. So group earnings before tax are expected to decrease significantly. In the Automotive segment, we expect deliveries to decrease slightly and the EBIT margin to come in within a range of 1% to 3%. This includes a burden of up to 1.25 percentage points for the workforce restructuring program agreed with the Works Council. The EBIT margin in the Motorcycles segment is expected to be between 4% and 6%. And in the Financial Services segment, we expect a return on equity in the range of 13% to 16%.

Ladies and gentlemen, our second quarter results reflect the challenging market environment we outlined in our guidance update in June. We continue to address the short-term challenges with targeted operational measures and disciplined management of costs, R&D spending and capital expenditure. At the same time, we are intensifying our structural efforts to make the BMW group faster, leaner and more efficient in the years ahead.

With our strong product pipeline coming to market and with the expertise and commitment of our employees, the BMW Group has a solid foundation for the years ahead. This is especially important as our competitive landscape is changing at a rapid pace. In this environment, our focus is clear: to manage the current headwinds with discipline, to strengthen the resilience of our business, and to lay the foundation for sustained long-term value for all our stakeholders. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Walter. Now over to our CEO, Milan Nedeljkovic.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Over the past several weeks, we have seen how quickly our business environment can change. As Walter outlined, the Q2 results reflect our adjusted guidance. However, the figures in the first and second quarter are not satisfactory. The rapid deterioration of the market in China was the main trigger that forced us to adjust our guidance in June. In addition, new competitors are also expanding into several markets across Asia-Pacific, Latin America and Europe.

These market dynamics, however, are just one aspect of the fundamental changes in our industry. In a little over a year, several other factors have converged and have had a significant impact on our business environment, including headwinds from tariffs, trade barriers and currency exchange rates, increasing requirements in regulations, especially in Europe, and the impact of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. To address these challenges, we are taking immediate decisive action to drive the necessary change. This will ensure that we remain competitive and will return us to better results for the short, medium and longer term.

In the short term, we are taking steps to accelerate ongoing cost reduction initiatives, focusing on structural and efficiency measures. These will deliver a sustained reduction of our overall fixed cost. The impact will be visible from 2027 onwards and will provide a new baseline for our strategic and operational measures going forward.

One important aspect is the dimension of the organization, which we will make leaner to increase speed and efficiency. We have made very quick progress with the General Works Council to reach an agreement on the workforce restructuring program. This includes a voluntary severance program in indirect functions in Germany. Now we will move forward with the implementation of the agreed measures in order to realize the benefits in the near term.

As our industry continues to transform, we need to be prepared for the road ahead, by tackling both our structures and our processes. To ensure that we are fit to deliver the necessary changes in the midterm, we are closely examining the entire value chain and have begun to take action on 4 key areas internally: customer journey, our organizational structures, delivery and purchasing, and engineering.

To give you an idea of what we are looking at: on the customer side, our focus is on the continued implementation of a new sales model in Europe, which requires a shift in mindset from wholesalers to retail. At the same time, we are optimizing every touch point in our customers' ecosystem and leveraging the data we have to generate additional business opportunities.

On the organizational side: this means making greater use of AI to further automate processes and increase speed as well as accelerating decision-making throughout the organization.

On delivery and purchasing: we are looking at how value creation is distributed globally and identifying opportunities to expand our local-for-local approach.

And on engineering: our focus is on increasing the speed of development through further standardization and commonality in engineering solutions and components.

Across all these areas, we will fundamentally transform the company.

On the long-term perspective, we are consistently looking at the broader strategic picture, covering technologies, products, markets and brands. In all of these areas, we are taking significant steps and picking up the pace. For example, we are reevaluating which technologies, model variants and drivetrains we will need in the future. We are also further tailoring our approach to individual markets and their specific product and drivetrain requirements. And we are evaluating where we can pursue new partnerships where it makes economic and technological sense.

While we face a lot of headwinds at the moment, we also have a solid foundation to leverage. In Q2, we saw a strong performance in Europe and the U.S., which could partly counterbalance the development in China and Asia-Pacific. And our performance in China to date in 2026 was at least in line with the overall market development.

We will also build on key changes that we have made in the last years, in particular, the significant investment in Neue Klasse. But this also includes the consolidation of the dealer network in China and [ not least ] the cost savings of EUR 2.5 billion that we made in 2025.

As we look ahead, our strong portfolio of premium products and technologies, our drivetrain approach and our global footprint provide us with the strategic direction as we navigate the current market environment.

First, our products and technologies. The rollout of the Neue Klasse is now well underway. The BMW iX3 continues to see strong momentum. We are on track to reach the next major milestone of 100,000 orders. To support this incredible demand, we introduced a second shift at Plant Debrecen ahead of schedule. Since the start of series production, the plant has already produced 50,000 BMW iX3, the fastest ramp-up of a new BMW Group plant.

We have also seen strong demand for the BMW i3 launch edition with initial orders, which we started earlier than planned in June. Regular ordering will open at the end of September. Just a few weeks ago, we also celebrated the world premiere of the new, fifth-generation BMW X5. The new X5 shows the full potential of our technology-open approach, the second pillar of our strategic foundation.

Customer needs and expectations vary widely from market to market and even within individual markets. Our Q2 sales also reflect this reality and the strength of our technology-open approach.

In Europe, sales were supported by BEV growth, which jumped by over 1/3 in Q2. In the U.S., sales of ICE vehicles drove growth to double digits in second quarter as BEV demand in the overall market fell. The positive response to the BMW iX3, i3, new 7 Series and X5 shows that we have made the right investments to bring the right product momentum to the markets. And there is much more to come as our product ramp-up remains firmly on track.

By the end of next year, we will have launched 40 new and updated models. This includes the first Neue Klasse models in China, the BMW iX3 and i3 long-wheelbase. Produced at our manufacturing base in Shenyang, they have been developed specifically for Chinese customer preferences and incorporate technologies from local tech players.

This illustrates the third key pillar of our strategy. our global footprint with a local-for-local approach. In major markets, it allows us to better address individual market needs while serving demand through local production and supply chains. Particularly in challenging times, this setup offers a significant resilience and flexibility as developments vary from market to market.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are opening -- operating in a dynamic and challenging environment. We are taking a critical look at how we work, including revisiting core processes and structures that previously were considered untouchable.

We know we have hard work to do on the road ahead. My responsibility is to ensure that we pick up the pace and increase the impact. We know we can put the company back on a solid, enduring path to the premium profitability that the company is capable of generating.

We remain ambitious and intend to return to our strategic EBIT margin corridor of 8% to 10% by the beginning of the next decade. In the interim, we will look our way back to this target step-by-step. Ultimately, it's about ensuring the long-term success in the company and creating value for our customers, our partners and our investors. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Milan. Ladies and gentlemen, we now have a short break before we move to the Q&A session. See you in 5 minutes. Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to our quarterly earnings call. Oliver Zipse and Walter Mertl are also back in the room with me. The line will be open shortly for your questions. The operator will give you some technical instructions now.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Patrick Hummel from UBS.

Of course, since I'm the first questioner here, I'd like to thank Oliver and say, over the past 10 years, I think you and your team had plenty of potential opportunities to take wrong decisions in a very volatile and rapidly evolving environment with a lot of surprises, obviously. And probably that includes some potential distractions from the daily mood of financial markets, which can flip to the extremes very quickly, but you kept the ship on course. And I think the result today is BMW stands here as a very robust, as a very flexible company and I think that is your legacy. So thank you very much for all the great dialogue and the challenges in our discussions over the last 7 years and all the best.

Oliver, if I just may start with you. I think if I understood correctly and the translation was maybe not exactly clear, you said in the media call early on that you expect the U.S. to look at export credits, which, of course, could be quite beneficiary to BMW. So I'm wondering, is your optimism in this regard based on the discussions you have locally with Governor -- on Governor level, let's say, or are there any signs also from Washington that this is the way forward? Because I think that's a pretty bold statement. We're not hearing that from anybody else. So I'm keen to understand better. And also what it potentially means for your industrial footprint decisions thinking here and scenarios.

And my second question goes to Walter. Walter, you now chose a slightly more cautious wording on the China outlook. And frankly, to many in the financial community, that didn't really come as a surprise. We've always been a bit more cautious than you've been. I'm just wondering, you kept the guidance for the group, obviously unchanged. Is there any offset to the softer China view in your guide? Or are we just gravitating towards the lower end? And more specifically, you also alluded to positive momentum building in the coming quarters in the media call. Can you just remind us what the biggest EBT drivers that would sequentially get better will be? Is it Neue Klasse volumes? Is it further cost downs? Or what else is it?

Good. Thank you very much. Walter, we start with Oliver.

Patrick, thank you for your kind words. I always enjoyed discussing. And if there is a little time lag between recognizing what is right and what we do, that's okay with us. To your questions, export credits, we tried to explain on governmental level, but also on governance level in the United States, the industrial logic, why it's good for the United States. Because in our industry, the volumes per unit are too small to build every car in every country at the specific volumes. So this sharing of volumes and distributing it around the world helps the United States and it helps Europe. If you don't do that, volumes will shrink and not grow. And if you look at the United States, their main political movement is growth and the second political movement is jobs in the United States.

And this export credit program helps the United States and Europe to do both. And we explained that logic and they followed us. So it's not the question whether this is helpful for governments. It's more a matter how do I put it in, how do we execute it? So for me, it's only a matter of execution, and then it's a matter of timing. The most important ingredient is the first step in Brussels to implement the term battery deal, and then we can do that second step. And we are not the only company. There are other -- in other industry, other competitors who also importers and exporters at the same time. And I think to put export on the focus is the next logical step in the United States. And therefore, I think there's a very good chance to implement it.

Thank you very much, Oliver. Walter, please.

Patrick, yes, the wording was also explicitly chosen in March already, as we discussed. And so it is now in Q1. And I think we outperformed the market. We presented that one. Now with respect to EBT drivers in the Q2, Q3, Q4, well, there is, of course, a, space in corridors; b, we are still moving on with our cost measures as usual, with our programs. Don't forget that the R&D and the CapEx ratios are heading towards the strategic corridors, less than 5%. So we mentioned that already in March. I just want to underpin this topic. And of course, versus the actuals, our Neue Klasse is coming into place. Don't forget, in a lot of European countries, we have margin parity already apple with apple compared. And that, of course, contributes too. So I think there is still room for improvements.

Our next question is from Jose Asumendi from JPMorgan.

Jose from JPMorgan. Oliver, my very best wishes for the years ahead. Congratulations on the work done, setting the base for a very robust BMW. Thank you for all the collaboration in the past years.

Two questions, please. Oliver, you were at the Beijing show. You met many of your competitors. Can you maybe share your overall impressions of how BMW is set up to compete in China? And from your extensive discussions, was there anything that stood out for you in terms of partnership, collaboration, supplier competitiveness, et cetera, where you think this could be an opportunity for the firm for the coming years?

Question two. Walter, also great to see you as well. And just maybe can you help us map a little bit the headwinds and tailwinds in terms of fixed cost headwinds and maybe cost opportunities, which you mentioned in your speech and how that evolves between Q2 and Q4 of this year?

Thank you very much. We start again with Oliver.

Jose, when you walked over the Beijing Auto Show and compared what the BMW Group was representing and what the rest of the show was representing by and large, there was a very focused presentation of most of the players in that industry. The majority was electric. The majority was the same segment of cars, very few sedans, a lot of SAVs of larger size, focus on autonomous driving, it's all the same. It was almost a monoculture. And of course, markets worldwide, they are not monolithic. They are widespread. They are differentiated by drivetrains. They are differentiated by size. They're differentiated by price segments.

And then you looked at the BMW Group stand. There was a large portion of MINI with all drivetrains available. Then you look at the BMW stand, you saw individualization. You saw all drivetrains. You saw V8s. You saw, of course, the Neue Klasse, fully electric. You saw smaller cars. You saw the new 7 Series. You saw our focus on hydrogen. So the full breadth of a premium player, you saw that. And that differentiates BMW. The variety, which represents the variety of market segments. And you don't have to look on a global scale. You see that in China as well. The markets are much more wider than you would see on that fair. And that is a worrying thing. If the whole industry thinks they can concentrate only on one segment, larger cars, SAVs, electric, then something is wrong. On the other hand, this makes us more resilient, antifragile to offer the whole breadth.

Let's just look at the first 3 months. EV sales in China were plummeting, not only decreasing, they were plummeting. And what happened, our ICE sales went up at the same minute. So especially China shows what it means to be a full segmenter, to be technology open and at the end, also to be a global industry. That was proof that our strategy is right.

Thank you very much, Oliver. And now, Walter.

Jose, the headwinds we had in quarter 1 year-on-year, I think I mentioned, majority is about exchange rate and commodities headwind, which we mentioned already in Q3 last year and also in March. And the majority will be in the first half year of an impact of a high 3 million-digit number. And you saw already the first EUR 400 million, roughly EUR 400 million. And you will also see an impact in this direction in Q2 and then slowing down in Q3, Q4. That is clear based on the exchange rate development you saw last year already lasting now this year in the first half year.

With respect to the tariffs, now of course, Q1, there was not the extra U.S. tariff happening. So that was the hit now. Now if you remember rightly, Q2 to Q4, we had higher numbers on the tariff burden than now in Q1, which is 1.25%, it was 2% and 1.75% levels. So we are assuming, as you saw in our guidance of 1.25 percentage burden. That is less than full year burden of 1.5% last year. So that should be rather positive.

And not to forget, on the R&D side, I also mentioned, expenses have been down by 12%, whilst depreciation has been up as well as our capitalization ratio came down from 34% to 31%, which we also announced already in March. So that is, of course, also under IFRS a burden. And we compensated that in Q1. So we are still moving on, having, of course, more depreciation to come with every new start of production to come. Of course, that will be going forward, this discussion.

But with respect to tailwind, as we mentioned, 60% more order income on BEVs, especially with the iX3, which is high order income levels. That will be positive in the quarters to come whenever we deliver these cars. And these are not preorders. These have been orders booked and in some cases, this is already with some money on top of that. So that is positive. And with respect to this, as you know, we are not giving quarterly guidance. But with that in mind, we confirmed the guidance we have given in March. Thank you, Jose.

Our next question is from Tim Rokossa from Deutsche Bank.

Before I come to my questions, a lot of people on the call here asked me to say a few words to you, Oliver, other than just thank you. And I think obviously very, very happy to do that.

During the last earnings call, you said, 'Tim, I can't remember a single call without you. It almost feels like you're part of the BMW inventory by now.' Now obviously, I had to smile and I thought that I'm hopefully the good type of inventory, the Neue Klasse one and not something that sits for too long on your lot. But if we leave those jokes aside, I think that line captures pretty well something that's very real, like the consistency and the trust that we now built over so many years. And clearly, no one can say that you didn't pick a very interesting time to be the CEO of BMW. You've been on a very, very long journey with us together. We had COVID. We had the semi crisis. We had a big industry transformation. We have China, we have tariffs and now you leave with the Neue Klasse. And throughout all of this, we had big strategic debates. It's fair to say that we didn't always agree on everything. There were plenty of tough questions from all of us, but you were always very direct, was always very constructive and very respectful. And by the way, I can also only return this about always being present. It's absolutely not a given for a CEO to be on every single earnings call quarter after quarter, showing up, engaging, taking the questions heads on, and you did that very consistently, and that really sets an industry standard, Oliver.

And you generally always look very actively for this dialogue. At the very beginning of your time as CEO, you invited me to your headquarters. You showed me around. Back then, you were still with Nicolas. We already debated the very big themes. And I also remember this VDA automotive supplier conference 2 years ago where we were on stage back to back. And that captures something that's very consistent throughout your role as CEO. You always sought the dialogue with all sorts of stakeholders, not only when there was a concrete discussion on the table that had to be clarified, but also on the bigger questions, the strategic vision for the sector, the direction of this industry that is so enormously important for Germany and Europe. And what really set you apart in all of these discussions, Oliver, that's pretty clear is you never felt like you had to swim the mainstream. You focused always on what you believe was right, and you did have the conviction to stick with this.

And a very concrete example that I obviously remember from a capital market perspective is especially dedicated EV architecture. Many of us, including myself also for a while, argued that, that is inevitable. You were very clear that you saw that differently and the slogan flexibility is key, pretty much became associated with you among all of us. It was for you about protecting options, adapting customers, not really telling them what they are supposed to do, but giving them what they want to buy. And on behalf of the entire investor community, therefore, I would really like to thank you, Oliver, for this great discussion that we had over so many years, and we obviously wish you all the very best for whatever comes next.

And then I have two questions. The first one is...

Tim, can I respond shortly. You are one of the few, but there are some more who are still on the calls in the last 7 years, and you have been around for more than a decade, I think. So what you just said is very interesting because you are a follower of this industry, this complete developments, architecture, technologies, players, new players, old players. And that is very interesting that someone who has been observing the industry tries to summarize what's happening in this industry. And that's quite interesting because normally, you only look at a quarterly thing.

So I would like to thank you for following us and learning together. We had to sharpen our arguments to withstand your questions. So this was also very helpful for us, a good learning experience. And I would like to return the thank you. That was superbly interesting, not only in the calls, but also when you were visiting us, when we were discussing outside of the official events. So thank you for your support and your understanding. Now you can ask your questions. Tim?

Sorry, the host muted me again. I have two questions. Oliver, the first one is then for you. Now that you leave the seat, you hand it over, you accomplished a lot of things. Out of all the issues that this industry is still battling with, which one do you think from a capital market perspective, we should really focus on and really worry about and which one is perhaps really overdone and overplayed?

And then secondly, Walter to you, a bit in the direction that some of my fellow peers were already trying to get to. I know you don't guide on a quarter, but look, we have no Chinese New Year in Q2. You might book the IEEPA refund. We have more selling days in general. Is it fair to arrive at the conclusion that Q2 should generally be stronger than Q1, bar any major external events?

Thank you very much, Tim. We start with Oliver and then Walter. Oliver, please.

Thank you for your question. If you would look in the years or 5 years from now, in the year 2035, you would look back. I still think there's too much focus from the media, but also from the capital markets on individual players, individual technologies, singular events. In 5 years' time, the players who will still survive, they have the competence to system integrate, to bring all technologies into a car, who build cars who have a long-term quality, who are not falling apart after 1 or 2 years, who will still in service after 5 years. It's a completely different game which is happening there, and who are able to differentiate between a singular hype and an overall business model.

If you watch the industry today, actually, there are too much bets going on, too much bets on a singular technology that might happen, but this cannot be endured. So much money is lost in this industry on bets. So system integrators who are able to follow regulation and at the end, have still a business model on high-quality products, that's the key of everything. And in 5 years from now, to follow CO2 regulations specifically and remain a profitable business will be more or less the key to everything.

Thank you very much, Oliver. Walter, please.

Tim, yes, I'm not guiding quarters, but just for years. But of course, you have been absolutely right. There should be a potential once we finally clarified everything with the customs authorities that we book the IEEPA. Otherwise, of course, not. And the impact is, as we stated in March, not the biggest one. But tariffs was higher in Q2 last year. That's also a fact. But who knows what's going on, right? We have a clear understanding what we expect as we described in our guidance already. And don't forget the seasonality, of course. Usually, we have higher fixed costs after Q1. So that's the ordinary bit. So don't overstress this. But of course, we are working on, as you know us, we execute. Thank you, Tim.

Our next question is from Stephen Reitman from Bernstein.

And also, again, I want to add also just to wish all the best to Oliver. Again, I've got even longer perspective on BMW than even Tim. And BMW has always stand for integrity, which I think has been very much we've seen under Oliver Zipse -- under your stewardship. And I think in particular, one other element that was not discussed was during the whole crisis, the German auto industry faced in 2015 with Dieselgate and beyond, how well BMW actually fared in all of that with actually really avoiding that basically with -- they have actually had a technology that actually was completely compliant. And I think it shows something about the BMW and then what goes on in this company.

On to my questions, I think particularly as you leave the company and with Neue Klasse now really on its big rollout phase, just sort of what's your assessment or what is the assessment you're finding from your Chinese dealers and what you're hearing as well about how they feel about Neue Klasse in the China market? We've seen, obviously, the -- we know that BMW still stands for quality. It's a very aspirational brand. But until now, obviously, the problem for legacy carmakers has been not being able to keep pace with some of the technology changes that have come from the Chinese brands. How is the feeling now to which extent that Neue Klasse has bridged that gap and is a missing part of the puzzle?

Thank you very much. Walter, please .

Hello, Stephen. Well, we also had in China a brand summit and brand night together with the dealers, and that was received very, very well, especially that they see and feel that we are on eye level with the Chinese OEM locally, and that's the positive outlook. They have been also already very, very positively surprised by the 3 Series, which we also presented in China, and that makes everything positive. Not to forget that we help the dealer network in performing better. That is more or less finished. Our dealer rightsizing exercise, of course, this is moving on always. But all these things together, how you treat the dealer network, how we organize ourselves, plus the products to come is a positive spirit on their side, what we feel. So that makes it positive for us. Thank you.

Our next question is from Philippe Houchois from Jefferies. .

And of course, Oliver, thank you very much for your leadership and your availability over the years.

I've got two questions. The first one is, I think you've been, as a group, very steadfast in saying 8% to 10% margin long term. And those targets were given at the time when China was an excess profit market, there were no tariffs. And I guess I'm just trying to understand what new levers you've been able to identify to actually compensate for that and stick to that 8%, 10% margin corridor.

And specifically, I think at some point, there was a discussion that Neue Klasse production might lead to 10% to 15% production cost per unit. And I was just wondering if that's what you already observed already in Debrecen where you started producing the Neue Klasse.

And my second question is on this FCA provision that you've taken up on the U.K. I think at some point, Walter, you may have mentioned that you thought the basis of that investigation a bit flawed and that you would fight it. At the same time, today, you're giving in. Do you still think that there's a road map where this is a wrong investigation when we'll potentially see a reversal of that provision?

Thank you very much, Philippe. Walter?

Philippe, well, the 8% to 10% is not unreachable. Don't forget that it is 3 x 1 EBT point we have to achieve. One is on the performance side. We love our BMW ecosystem, and we can do even better. Not to forget Alpina to come, which is also positive for the contribution side. Not to forget that the Gen 6 Neue Klasse has a much better contribution margin than the Gen 5, as we all know for a while. So that's the performance 1 EBT point.

Second one is, of course, we are doing our homework, working on the material cost side, on the manufacturing cost side, on the warranty cost side. If you have a better quality, you have to provision less warranty costs, which is also contributable to the EBT margin, not to forget and of course, also logistic costs, et cetera, to be optimized with our global footprint. So that's the second EBT point.

The third EBT point is also homework, is our fixed cost levels, which we are also going -- coming down, as we mentioned already, step by step in '26 and '27 and also in '28. Not to forget one choker, I would call it, which we never forget to mention. This is the PPA, purchase price allocation depreciation, which is always accounted for 1.1, 1.2 EBT points. This is only lasting until mid- '28. So you will have already a half year effect in '28 and a full effect in '29. So with these elements to come, there is a chance to come back to 8% to 10%.

Of course, we are not naive. There is always something coming around the next corner, whether there are tariffs or other crisis points, and we mitigate as they come along. And we have plans already to do so. So I think that's for your first question. And the production cost comes along with it, right? So we use new technique and the latest procedures. And of course, that is also contributing, too.

Now your second question on the FCA provision, you hit a nerve on my side, honestly, because we and I personally had intense work together with this authority with FCA. We did a lot of really many, many amendment proposals we made between October, the draft version and our submission then in December. We contributed to, in my eyes, positively to come to a proper and proportionate solution for all parties. But I'm really disappointed that this was not reflected. Some bits and bobs have been reflected, but hardly anything. And that is really disappointing.

So I continue to regard the scheme as unfair and disproportionate. And was there legal grounds for challenge, I have to say, without the participation of a meaningful cohort of other U.K. lenders, especially all banks, and I have also an understanding about their situation, such an undertaking by the group of BMW would not be in the best interest of its shareholders, I think, particularly considering the level of ongoing uncertainty pursuing a legal challenge would create. And I think we have to consider that, and that's the reason why we're not challenging it because we can't do that without the banks and without more than just ourselves. That is my position on FCA.

Our next question is from Stuart Pearson from Oxcap Analytics.

So one detailed one and one just on China. Just maybe for, Walter, on the bridge, the other positive EUR 400 million. I just wonder if you can just shed a little bit more color what the moving parts were in there. In particular, I think you mentioned warranties being a tailwind there, but I can see, obviously, there's an outflow there, I guess, adjusting for that on the cash flow side. So just wonder what's going on warranties, whether that is -- I heard you mentioned it on the longer-term outlook as well, whether that's a source of potential tailwinds that can continue in the next couple of years. Generally, it's been a headwind for the industry. So I just wonder what's going on there.

And then the second question, I mean, going back to China, and Oliver, I want to hear what you're saying in terms of the breadth of product offer that BMW has in China. But in some ways, I guess, having to maintain that breadth of product range for the global market might be costing BMW and the European peers in China and that it's not been focused on the pure EV segment. And I just wonder, particularly, you mentioned those large SUVs that dominated in China, the Chinese moving to the premium segment. And I guess that is going to be a monumental challenge for a segment where it probably is a disproportionate part of your profitability in China. So how confident are you, I guess, of the X5 and above, that footprint in China in the next couple of years as we see the Chinese move into that. And of course, Mercedes localizes the GLE as well.

Okay. Thank you very much, Stuart. Walter, please.

Stuart, well, let's start with the first question to my bridge on other positions of this EUR 400 million. So my manufacturing cost side is a low 3-digit positive element. My warranty side is also a low 3-digit positive element. Don't forget, we didn't have to add any extra provisions for than previous years, maybe. But of course, the tariff burden is also in this other section. And we had last year only EU, China burden with our MINI electric cars, but nothing on the U.S. side, whilst now I'm having it. So now I'm experiencing 1.25% hit, whilst last year was lower. So this is a negative position on it.

But with respect to the Neue Klasse in China, coming to your next question, and the footprint, we are bringing this confidently into the market. As I mentioned beforehand, we had this brand summit and the brand night, the spirit of the dealers is very positive. They see our tech levels coming with the Neue Klasse on high level. So the product is on the point. And with respect to your question on the X5 footprint, if you have a look, even now in Q1, we sold more X5 with a better transaction price this year than in Q1 '25, not to forget. So we did a lot of product enhancements, but also could achieve a better transaction price level.

Now also a new X5 is coming in China in '27. And also that one, we have presented already to the dealers, the dealer network. And they also confirm this is on the point because it also has all techniques of the Neue Klasse, also the Momenta's tech. And not to forget, different than others, we also provide the X5 with all powertrains in China. So we have the offer, which is relevant. And all the other ones, I don't think that we just have to compare ourselves with. As you ask for GLE, it's about all Chinese OEMs. And I think we don't have to hide for. That's also what we got as a feedback from all dealers. And that makes me confidently looking into the future also for China.

Our next question is from Horst Schneider from Bank of America.

It's Horst here. I have got a few left. The first one is related to your volume/price/mix line in Q1. So we have seen BEV sales, minus 20% in Q1. I could imagine that triggered positive mix while it seems that the price turned down quite a bit in Q1. Is that now a general trend that the pricing gets tougher in the premium market? And what happens if the BEV sales start to increase again with the ramp-up of the Neue Klasse? I know there are a lot of moving parts because, as you said, you also launched the Alpina and you launched the X5 and there are a lot of new models coming in H2, which compensate maybe higher BEV mix. But what should we think about this equation, price versus product mix going forward?

Then a follow-up to this midterm target question from Philippe, a question that I also always ask myself. I think a general problem in the premium market is that the volumes do not really grow anymore for the established players. You do well, you take even market share by having flat sales, but nevertheless, the top line is not growing. So therefore, my question is, if you want to achieve these midterm targets, this requires the assumption that the volume growth picks up again and that the price/mix impact gets less negative than it is right now. So that's question number two.

And then the last small question that I have is, when we look at the high oil price, in Europe, we see this BEV increase, which might be related to that. In the U.S., it seems we do not have any impact. But beyond BEVs, you see in the U.S. already that we have got a higher PHEV demand or that the people switch from large engines to small engines. So what's the role of fuel efficiency in the purchase decision?

Good. Thank you very much, Horst Schneider. The question will be answered by Oliver.

Yes. Thank you, Horst, for your question. I would like to have a twofold answer. The first one is very concrete. If you look a little bit deeper on our BEV global sales, then 2 things happen at the same time. They're going down in the United States and China quite rapidly, but they're almost fully compensated by higher ICE sales. Europe is exactly the other way. They're going up. They're above previous year level, and that is even before the ramp-up of the Neue Klasse. So you have to look a little bit deeper. It's all happening exactly at the same time.

In China, it's mainly caused by the reduction of the subsidies for BEV cars. And that puts also a different view on what is happening in China because only roughly 30% of the whole market is BEV. The rest is NEVs. It's not BEVs. So it's cars with plug-in hybrids, it's cars with range extenders and that will be a continuing trend. And what worries us that Europe thinks they can overhaul or accelerate on the BEV sales while China is putting the brakes on it. So that is a question mark where we think. But of course, our strategy to be flexible on the technology will help us there.

More on the strategic side, what is premium in the future? Premium of the future is product quality, specifically long-term product quality. It does not make sense to push cars in the market who lose their resale value after 2 or 3 years' time. This is not premium. So it's not feature count in a new car, it's what is the residual value after 1, 2, 3 or even 5 years. I'm not even talking about historic cars of 15 or 20 years. That is premium.

The second thing is premium system integration. It's not feature count. We discussed what we saw in Beijing, again, feature count over future count. That's not the point. How does that all play together? How does it fit? And is it for someone who drives the car, not while it's standing, but while it's driving, does it fulfill the function they are supposed to?

And the third one is safety. And I think that becomes one of the foremost criteria for premium of the future, safety, no casualties, no risks. Absolute promises to a brand who promises to be premium means no casualties, no risk in driving the car. And I think that will define premium of the future, and I think we are well underway to fulfill that promise. Thank you.

Our next question is from Christian Frenes from Goldman Sachs. .

And Oliver, I'd like to also extend my congratulations and best wishes for your tenure. I think the decision-making has been superb with hindsight and your focus on flexibility as well as profitability has been appreciated by everyone.

I have two questions. First of all, maybe zooming in on China, specifically the Neue Klasse ramp. My question would be, how are you thinking about pricing for the Neue Klasse in China? And to what extent can you comment on that? And also when do you anticipate setting that?

And my second question is just on the FinCo. Just I noticed that penetration rate jumped to 51.6% from 43%. So I'm just wondering, Walter, if you could give us some more color on maybe geographically, some of the dynamics we're seeing there that have caused that.

Thank you very much, Christian. Walter, please. .

Christian, well, on the Neue Klasse ramp-up, I think you know that we are going to start the iX3 in Q4. And then in '27, we are going to move on with the 3 Series, et cetera. As we mentioned also in February, the pricing will be always determined just before the start of sales, not when we present things. And I think that is most relevant as we all are aware of the market dynamics in China. So we will let you know. And believe me, we do know what we want to do.

On the FinCo side, the penetration ratio uplift, of course, we shouldn't forget about that in the first half year, China had hardly any penetration ratio because of these commissions paid by other banks. Now end of June, as we remember, the commission structure has changed as the party has reminded some banks. And hence, the commissions came down to the right level, which we also always fought for. And with that, our penetration ratio in the second half year of '25 elevated. And now we are just running on the same level again. And that, in combination, ends up with this 51% in Q1.

And the young used car is also included in our new cars, not to forget. You find a note also that we changed this definition because young used cars on our side is also classified as new. It is not an effect on the total business because it was always a total business, whether we have new, young used cars or used cars, BMW, MINIs, et cetera. So that is included always. It's just about the percentage ratio, and that is accounting for 2.5% to 3%, more or less that level.

Our final question is from Henning Cosman from Barclays.

So a couple of clarifications and maybe one first to Walter again on this other cost savings. Thanks for telling us already what was in there in Q1. I'm a little bit more interested in what that's going to look like going forward. I appreciate you don't want to guide on quarters, but if you could perhaps say if we're talking about EUR 1 billion or so in cost savings for the year as a whole. You obviously had an excess of EUR 2 billion last year, and it's quite a big swing factor. So would be great to understand what sort of ballpark you're managing towards for the full year.

To the clarifications, can I just clarify that -- Oliver, really interesting, your comments about the offset mechanism with respect to U.S. tariffs. But can I just clarify that, that's not included in your unchanged 125 basis points full year tariff assumption?

And then finally, Walter, I think all your statements sound really constructive. Could I perhaps get you to say that if I paraphrase and put this all together, you're kind of telling us you're going to be in the top half of the Automotive EBT margin guidance range for the full year. Oliver, all the best.

Thank you very much. So the question will be answered fully by Walter.

Henning, so with respect to other costs, I'm clearly not giving quarterly definitions, and we always have to have in mind the year-on-year position. We clearly stated already in March that we still move on, on the cost savings side on all the elements you can see. And you see that nominal in my reports, and you will also see that going forward. But I'm not giving you any indication about the amount.

With respect to your tariff question, offset mechanism is not included in my 1.25%. Clearly not. And with respect of your direction of my corridor, I think the corridor is still a corridor, and that is between 4% and 6%. And we concluded the quarter 1 with 5.0% and all the rest is to come. We confirmed our guidance of 4% to 6%. I think there is nothing more to say. Thank you, Henning.

Thank you very much for your last words. So ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. Thank you for joining us. Bye-bye and [Foreign Language] from Munich.

Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the second part of our group quarterly call. We will now continue in German. So we took a short break. And now we are very happy to answer your questions. As always, we will give you some technical advice and then we start with the first question.

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Here's our first question. It comes from Christina Amann from Thomson Reuters.

First of all, I would like to thank you for taking your time, and I wish you all the best for your time after BMW. Today, I'm interested in tariffs. Trump announced to have 25% for imports of cars. Are you optimistic that this will not be implemented. And if yes, why?

Second question, the Middle East, two things. You pointed out that it has an effect on sales. Can you put a figure to it? And then the second aspect. What does the war in Iran mean for spare parts deliveries. Is there a risk?

Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Amann. First, Mr. Zipse and then Walter Mertl. Oliver, you have the floor.

Good morning, Mr. Amann. Thank you very much for being here today as also in the past years. Tariffs. You know how this has to be read. It's not yet an executive order. For now, it's just a threat. And it doesn't come unexpectedly because the [ turn very ] wheel from last summer. So it was agreed to say we reduce the import duties from 27.5% to 15%. And in return, the European Union will reduce the tariffs from 10% to 0%. Now the American side implemented this for the past 8 months, not the European Union. Now they pointed out that it might take some time because it's the process in parliament, but it takes quite some time. Now for us, this is not surprising. This threat is not surprising. But I would like to point out, it hasn't yet been implemented. I'd say the probability is high that the accelerated implementation and introduction of the original tariff is just a matter of days or weeks. This is not just our hope but I think anything else would damage both sides.

Now we are very optimistic. We still think it's just a threat in order to implement the deal.

Thank you, Oliver. Walter, you have the floor concerning Middle East.

Mr. Amann. Now your questions, impact on the volume. While, it's limited, as I said in my presentation. As for the rest, just as predicted in our forecast, we think it's temporary. And we will have a solution soon. It affects not just us, but the entire world economy. So we assume there will soon be a solution and you partly can see an effect in Q1.

Next question comes from Christoph [indiscernible] from the DPA.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to wish you all the best as well. My question is relatively simple. Now if I do the math, then 1.25 percentage points, this is EUR 300 million in Q1. Is that correct? Is my calculation correct? Or did I make a mistake?

Thank you very much for this mathematical question. I have to hand over to the CFO because he's perfect in mathematics. Walter Mertl?

Thank you very much. Well, your calculation is correct. We only give quarter points, not specific figures, but always in quarter points, it's around EUR 300 million. This is sales in the automotive industry, that's correct.

The next question comes from Felix Stippler from Handelsblatt.

Yes, Mr. Zipse also from me all the best for the future. I have a question concerning the business model. The margins with you and with other premium manufacturers are low, sales are more or less stable. For how long can this go on in the industry or how do you manage the turnaround?

Thank you very much, Mr. Stippler, Mr. Zipse, you have the floor.

Good morning, Mr. Stippler. Thank you for your question. I would like to make two comprehensive remarks. Our business model is not -- does not come overnight. We have to see it in its entirety. BMW has a specific setup. The demands of a worldwide stable individual mobile market is fulfilled. It's stable. It has even grown since the pandemic. It's now stable, but as such, it's very dynamic in changes. But all in all, it's very stable. It's one of the most stable industries worldwide. So if there is demand for vehicles, what can we do if the individual components are also very dynamic. Well, you know us, we have a very resilient -- we even call it anti-fragile strategy. We are open to technologies. All of the powertrains are implemented everywhere at any point in time. We don't know exactly what the sales will be in a year x in the future. And it's easy to understand because in order to do this, you have to have a lot of capabilities, and we are capable. We also benefit from it strongly.

Here are 4 examples where we see an acute effect. First, the Chinese market, as you know, is decreasing slightly. We think that it will stabilize again in the course of the year. But in Europe, it goes up. We have a global approach to counterbalance this. If you are not working globally, you always depend on regions. We don't.

Second example, since the tariffs were risen to 15% last summer in the United States, we had the x5 increase by 10,000 units, almost all of those ICEs. At the same time, the purchases in Europe increased. So we were able to react right away because we did have an increase in one powertrain, one vehicle, one market.

Third example. Now right now, the outcome is open concerning Iran, but we have an increase in gas prices and in Europe, more demand for e-vehicles, we have the NEUE KLASSE. We increased the production volume. We can react right away. So the reaction in the United States is different from the one in Europe. This, to us, is to be open to technology. And of course, the demand is due to the tariffs, but also the political situation because power is used for other things than for e-vehicles in the United States. So we have highly efficient ICEs, which is good. So it has an effect, a perfect effect. And in the short run, you cannot install something like this.

Then third, we are strong in all of the brands. Mr. Mertl talked about MINI. It has good growth. Rolls-Royce on the other side of the portfolio is also just as stable, so it is not down to the profitability of individual vehicles, but we work in all of the market segments. That's the third pillar of the strategy. MINI, Rolls-Royce and in between, we have more than 40 BMW models. This is why we can work in an anti-fragile manner.

What does the future hold? What is the future of this business model? That was your question. Well, I still think that the hyper optimistic perspective, which still persists, individual technologies does not -- is not future viable because the success depends on 3 pillars: it's long-term quality. Now it's of no use if the vehicle is of no value after 2 years because you use technologies which are no longer provided or which are just not robust than system integration. What does a car feel in its entirety. This is much more important then the very overheated fast and predominant implementation in vehicles. You see it everywhere in the world. This is not robust. How does it feel to drive the car, drive the NEUE KLASSE Symbiotic Drive. This is much more important than the individual technology and then ramp up capabilities. We didn't have to postpone any ramp-up, not even by one day. This is much more important than to say, "I have a show car, I have an announcement and then I have to delay it for 3, 4, 5 years." So the success stories are the system integration, ramp-up stability and the open technology, anti-fragile.

So we also have to see how innovative the vehicles are. So sometimes the media also focus on individual technologies, but this is not key to the success of the manufacturers, BMW, and this is totally independent of whether it's Mr. Zipse or Mr. Nedeljkovic who is the CEO. BMW is very well set up, we believe, in a strong future of BMW.

Now if we have higher profitability also due to fewer tariffs, then of course, we would welcome this.

The next question comes from Sebastien Ash from FT.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Mr. Zipse, Mr. Mertl, thank you very much for taking your time this morning to talk to us. Mr. Mertl, my first question is, you talked about additionally providing the -- for the FCA risk scheme. What was the amount in the first quarter? And could you please tell us or remind us what the first provision was from this quarter?

And then second question, if I may, concerning the tariffs. This is to Mr. Zipse, I think. Now in the past months, you showed us a lot of optimism. You talked about positive expectations concerning the solution of this problem with the tariffs. Last summer, for example, I remember a possible deal with the administration. And you said that you are optimistic that this still will be implemented swiftly. Now why is this going to change? Or let me put it differently, how optimistic are you that this will find a solution in the next weeks or months?

Thank you very much, Sebastien. Let's start with Walter Mertl.

Good morning. FCA, you asked about FCA and what our provisions are. Well, we had a slight to medium 3-digit amount to the 31st of December 2025, we had to top it up, unfortunately, to a medium to a high 3-digit number in the millions. Now do you see it in the operating cost and in the financial services, the lost and profit accounts. Now as I said, we tried to find a better and more correct solution for the suggestion of October. In December, we filed it. Unfortunately, it was the effect that nothing of this was really assumed. Now usually, you can challenge this because in my eyes, it's disproportionate and still unfair. However, what is it all about without the participation of the banks and the main countries in the U.K., it doesn't really make sense to file an opposition. So at the end of the day, we had to top up the provisions.

Thank you very much, Walter. This brings us to the second part of the question, tariffs and BMW's optimism. Mr. Zipse, you have the floor.

Well Karl Popper said that optimism is an obligation for entrepreneurs. If you're not optimistic, if you're pessimistic, it's of no use to anyone. So we fulfill this obligation. Now that's just what the philosopher said. I remain optimistic because the pressure on the EU is mounting. The answer is not that easy. The answer cannot just be we're not doing anything because that would be a very bad answer for the EU. So I stay optimistic. There is increased pressure now and I'm sure that we will have a solution soon.

In the past weeks -- so in the past weeks, we continue talking to the administration in Washington. We said after the deal, we will continue. I'm sure that we will have an offset deal until the end of the year. We'll have an agreement and it will foresee that for importers, which are at the same time, exporters, there will be an offset. So for each exported vehicle, you're allowed to import one. We get a lot of support, but only if the first part of the deal is carried out. That's the European Union. So I reflect the discussion which we are having in parallel with the American administration, the export model, which is done by BMW is supported by them strongly.

Now our next question comes from Martin Hesse from Der Spiegel.

Good morning, Mr. Zipse. Now I would like to wish you all the best. I have one political question. You are leaving BMW after 7 years, and the government has been in power for one year. What is your opinion on the work of the German government, particularly concerning mobility and the automotive industry? It's still open what the European regulation for the automotive industry will look like in the future.

Thank you very much. Mr. Zipse, you have the floor.

Mr. Hesse, Politics is a difficult business. We see it's very hard to reach a consensus in a democratic environment. We always have an open [indiscernible] for all of the topics. But of course, the other parties should be open as well. Not all of our wishes are heard in particularly concerning the revision of the CO2 regulation, it shall be implemented during the course of the year. We cannot get be content with this just to say, we are open for technologies because we decreased the demand of 100% to 90%. And then in the small print, it is described what the 10% shall look like. And then they introduced a new vehicle category for small vehicles. Well, it goes into the right direction, okay, but it won't be enough in order to boost or to maintain even the economic power of the European automotive industry.

Now e-mobility, well, in Europe, to credibly say that we are faster than China in China itself. Well, you need to challenge this. You need to challenge whether we are still on the right track, whether we still do the right thing for the economy. We firmly believe, as you know, in a long-term business model, this is why we further promote e-mobility. Still, we believe when we look at 2030 to 2035, well the VAT code in Europe will be 15% that -- well, this is still exaggerated. But yes, we know that politics is a difficult business. We remain open for discussions, and we are happy to contribute whenever we can.

The next question comes from Frank Volk from Automobilwoche.

I have two questions concerning the NEUE KLASSE. You both underlined that you have a very high order bank and order volume. What about the production? How is the production going? Are you able to fulfill this increased demand? How is the production rollout? Did you increase production again or will you increase the production volume again? That's the first question.

And then second question on tariffs which was discussed before. Mr. Zipse, did I understand you correctly? Did you say that you understand that the U.S. government now has a stricter approach to the EU?

Thank you very much, Mr. Volk. Mr. Zipse, you have the floor.

Mr. Volk, we are very happy with the incoming orders for the iX3. And we also see it for the i3, which is not yet on the market. Still, we have orders coming in. And of course, we are able to fulfill the demand. The question is just when. So the waiting times are a bit too long still, but it's a positive sign. They are not infinitely long. But yes, we have new shifts and the same will happen in Munich once the i3 is in production. Every third full electric vehicle order in Europe is an iX3, and those are real preorders with advanced payments. It's not just increased interest. So the plant is doing well and it corresponds also to our expectations. With the iX3 we are very happy that we have a very high penetration rate. So it's not just owners who buys a new one, but we do conquer a lot of people from the competition. That's great. If you would like to order an iX3, you will get one, of course, Mr. Volk.

Second question, do I have understanding for this call up? I'm not calling it a threat, but this call up to really implement the great deal. Yes, I understood that they issued the remainder of the call up, and I'm sure it will lead to a result.

Next question comes from Stephen Wilmot from the Wall Street Journal.

First one, the Chinese market is obviously changing rapidly, as we all know. Can you just summarize what changes you're seeing and the nature of the premium car buyer in China and how those are affecting BMW?

And secondly, just a couple of clarifications of things that you've previously said. You implied that you'd seen an increase in EV demand as a result of the rising oil price. Can you just confirm us what you're saying? There have been some issue with the translation or something. I just wanted to make sure I understood that correctly.

And secondly, I wasn't totally sure when you talk about this system of import in terms of the U.S. tariffs here, the -- you've been arguing for credits for your exports from Spartanburg. Are you saying that the U.S. administration is open to that model and they're just waiting for the EU to fulfill its side of the deal? Is that what I understood correctly? Just if you could just clarify what's actually happening there and what you expect to happen.

Thank you very much, Stephen. So let's start with the Chinese market and the offset logic with the U.S. administration. This is Mr. Zipse and then Walter Mertl on the effect of what's happening in Iran.

Good morning, Stephen. So if you're in New York, I'd say good night and not good morning. Let me answer questions one to three, and then I hand over to my colleague. Of course, in the Chinese market, a lot is changing, a high impact has that the subsidies for pure e-mobility is withdrawn. This comes from the administration. It's not just driven by the market. It had huge effect on the Chinese manufacturers, particularly in the first quarter, you need to understand this when you look at the market, then BMW, China is still our biggest market and it's a central technology driver. We showed this also at the trade show. We don't have to go into detail. Now we showed that we have a very close cooperation and we have the empowerment of the production sites. And of course, in 2026, we had 625,000 vehicles. It's the largest individual market. And in Q1, we -- so you always have to look at it in relative terms. I think that's highly important. We have the NEUE KLASSE. It's similar to Europe. And it's very popular the NEUE KLASSE, and we think that it will be welcomed there as well with open arms.

Of course, the market normalizes because in a normal market, which is so big, Chinese manufacturers, both on the delivery side and also on the market side are dominant. It's just like in Europe and the United States, they adjust and they become the dominant players. So it's not that surprising what we see in China. They are highly innovative. I think that's clear but we still firmly believe that China will remain our biggest market also in the future.

Now I can just confirm what I said before. I think that for the United States, a good business model is to have export-oriented companies to focus on them to promote their activities and not just local for local. So where we have the business model, we are heard. So in order to answer your questions, yes, I do believe that in the past weeks and months, this will be heard and will also be implemented.

Thank you very much, Oliver. Now concerning Iran, and BEV demand. Walter, you have the floor.

Thank you very much. The BEV demand depends on the region. And in Europe, we said that we have more than 60% increase than Q1 2025, whether this is due to Iran or because of our fantastic iX3, we can discuss this, of course. Both will have an effect probably. In other regions, in China, in the United States, we just mentioned it before in the United States because there is this withdrawal of subsidies. The demand is no longer that strong in the entire market and in China. And also here, as Mr. Zipse said, as before, look at the price segments where we feel the withdrawal of subsidies with vehicles up to $120,000. And if you look at the overall decrease of volume in the Chinese market, then you see 2/3 from the price spend up to $20,000 and the rest from the price spend up to $40,000. So you see that we have a different impact at BMW than with others.

Next question comes from Leonard [indiscernible] from POLITICO EU.

Staying with the Chinese market, I have two questions. One of them sort of doubling down on what Stephen asked. I understand that you expect the Chinese market to stabilize in the rest of the year. And I also understand that you aim to remain a significant player in the market. But I would be interested in how exactly you're planning on doing that. So I'm wondering, will this be a pricing strategy? Will you work on technologies that will convince the Chinese market? So I'm looking to better understand the avenue to which you become or remain a dominant player in China.

And then secondly, regarding the status quo, I understand the market is down in China right now overall and you're less affected by that than some other players. Although I would be also interested to get a better understanding of what is your sense of why that is the case right now? Again, is this a pricing problem? Or is it possibly also a technology gap specifically? Could this be automated driving technologies where perhaps other players are more advanced and which becomes an increasingly important technology for Chinese customers?

Good. Thank you, and I hand over to Walter Mertl.

Good morning, Mr. [ Rus ]. You know that the Q1 overall market was decreased by 17.5% and the CPCA has an annual forecast, which was corrected minus 7.6% is the forecast now. And of this week or next week, it might even be down to 8%. Now there's one factor why we are still important, namely our openness to technology, our vehicles. We are known as Baoma. So the purchase force, we shouldn't forget this stands for a value in itself. We have very good cars. Otherwise, we would see a massive decline in the volume as well. This is not given. You know that we've done a lot of things for 1.5 years. We did [ white sites ], the dealers. We closed dealers. We also opened up dealer in other sites, then we boosted the dealer performance by training. This is one large element. We also carried out product measures in the past months. So as a result, we also declined list prices. We lowered them. And those dealers are independent, the transaction prices done by the dealers is not on our list prices.

Now in combination with the product measures, the result was that the list prices were lower. The transaction prices increased slightly in the first quarter. This is positive. The vehicles are still appealing. Now concerning the forecast in China, well, with the NEUE KLASSE and the Momenta stack. So we will be on eye level with the Chinese offering parties, many clients, and we showed it in China at the trade fair, we also showed the positive demand of the i7, the iX3, i3, everyone wants to have this car, and we can expect in Q4 to offer the cars. So pricing is okay.

Well, the next question comes from Stefan [ Radomski ] from [indiscernible].

Mr. Zipse as a farewell, I have a fundamental question for you. Now we heard in the past several times, there are rumors really that Chinese manufacturers might enter the factories in Europe or Germany with their Chinese cars and then produce their cars here. Now it's very hard to comment on what others are doing, but it's just a fundamental question. Is that a risk? Do you think might this open up a door which you'll be unable to shut? Or do you think that's positive because the plants can be maintained because if the Chinese don't come in, then they would have to be reduced in size?

Thank you, Oliver Zipse, you have the floor.

Mr. [ Radomski ], good morning. Thank you very much for your question. It's not that easy to understand what happens in the industry. 2025, BMW sold -- or built more than 1 million cars in Germany as much as never before. And 25% of the entire car production comes from BMW. So not the large manufacturers produce most, but BMW, it's actually a small manufacturer, but BMW is there at the forefront. Now in the eyes of BMW, we don't have to reduce capacity at all. Look at Regensburg 2025. It's the strongest plant and we have full capacity utilization. Leipzig is the only plant in Germany where BMW and MINI are run on one belt. And then in Munich, we have the preparations for BMW i3. We invested into that. So a plant in Munich will be like the one in Debrecen.

So we will have several shifts there as well. And this will start off in August. Dingolfing will have the rollout of the new 7 and from NEUE KLASSE, it will produce the ICE model. Maybe you heard that the NEUE KLASSE is not just an e-car, but there is an ICE on its own platform. This will then be produced in Dingolfing. Spartanburg has an all-time high of 430,000 units. Debrecen will produce for the high demand of the iX3. So this question is not relevant for us. The production doesn't just mean that cars are assembled by some people. Now it's about system integration of highly complex products. It's much more than just an assembly plant. And of course, this is indispensable for the success of our company.

Thank you very much. This brings us to the last three questions. First question, please?

Yes, the next question comes from Timothy Lowe from Bloomberg News.

I just wanted to ask real quick, given the full landscape of things with the tariffs and with China and the disruption in the Middle East, in March, we had the impression that maybe you thought that the first half of this year is going to be a trough, maybe even first quarter and that things would maybe accelerate later in the year. I'm just curious, do you still believe that now, given what you've alluded to in the report as like the auto industry is -- generally has been sort of like expectations are actually down. Do you still believe that early in the year is the trough, and it will get better for BMW later in the year?

Good. Thank you. Walter Mertl, you have the floor.

Thank you. Yes, we think that. We work on it every day. In Q1, we showed good performance, just as announced, in March and in Q3, we said that we have a high burden from the tariffs and also because of the currencies, we reported it as such. In the second quarter, the currencies will still be an extra burden as we saw in Q1. We already announced this, and the discussion of the tariffs was already explained. And for the second half, the good momentum is that we roll out the NEUE KLASSE more and more. This is why we are optimistic.

Next question comes from Joachim Herr from Boersen Zeitung.

Good morning. I have a follow-up question concerning the Middle East, probably to Mr. Mertl. Now how much of your overall sales can be found in that region, comes from that region? And you are highly optimistic that the conflict will be solved soon. But I guess -- or that's the question. Can you picture a scenario if this won't happen that you then have to take corresponding measures?

Second question, it seems that because of the high gas prices, the demand for e-vehicles increases, particularly in Europe, do you think that this trend is going to continue, even if the prices are lowered even if the conflict is resolved? Do you think this will continue?

Thank you very much, Joachim. Walter Mertl, you have the floor.

Mr. Herr, good morning. The volume share of the Middle East is less than 1.5%. You are asking about scenarios. You know that BMW is always prepared for mitigations. And of course, we're doing this now as well. And the BEV demand within the EU, as I said, whether this is due to gas prices, whether this is due to something else or because of the wonderful product i3 and iX3, we can discuss this, of course, as we already told your colleague. Of course, all of the factors will play a role. I focus on our very good product and I'm sure this is why the demand increased by more than 60% for BEV in the past year.

Okay. Last question?

Yes. Last question comes from Regina Ehm-Klier from Passauer Neue Presse.

Good morning. Thank you for handing me the floor. Mr. Zipse, first of all, all the best for you. I have one question concerning the costs, which Mr. Mertl mentioned. Cost in Munich, 10%, how can this be implemented? Does that mean that this will only be solved through HR costs or costs for staff?

Thank You very much. Mr. Mertl, you have the floor.

Ms. Ehm-Klier. It's about the overall setup. We have a new product, and we have more efficiency and more productivity in the plants as with every new product. So we install the new technologies in our plant. And this is why we have better technologies, better working processes, and this allows us to reduce the costs. We are just more efficient.

Thank you very much. Mr. Mertl. This brings us to the end of the call. I have some personal remarks, Oliver. We all know that this was your last call after 35 years at BMW and more than 10 years at the Board of Management. You assumed the responsibility in a very dynamic, volatile time, which -- and it was very hard to make plans with the NEUE KLASSE you initiated, one of the most important projects in the company history. And technology neutrality you showed us is the right path. On the 30th of May, you will be there for the shareholders at the annual conference and in name of the analysts, journalists and shareholders, we say thank you for 20 quarterly calls and 7 annual conferences and annual assemblies. Thank you very much. Thank you for everything.

So thank you very much from Munich. We will speak soon.

[Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call].

Colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the telephone conference of the BMW Group for the first quarter. Today, we have here Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management; and our CFO, Walter Mertl. First, Walter will take you through our financial results. Oliver will then give you a general business update for the BMW Group. After a short break, we will then have time for our Q&A session. Walter, please go ahead.

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. The year 2026 started off with sound financial results for the BMW Group, in line with our expectations. In the first quarter, group revenues totaled EUR 31 billion. Group earnings before tax amounted to EUR 2.35 billion, approximately 25% lower than in Q1 2025. With this result, we generated a group EBT margin of 7.6% on the level of the 2025 as well as 2024 full year. The operating profit in the Automotive segment was EUR 1.345 billion. The EBIT margin in the Automotive segment stood at 5% in the middle of our full year guidance corridor of 4% to 6%. As you know, we consistently focus on our reported figures. Accordingly, the 5% represents our reported EBIT margin without any adjustments.

The Q1 extra tariff burden of 1.25 percentage points is accounted for in this margin. In addition, the EBIT margin includes the depreciation from the BBA purchase price allocation of 1.2 percentage points.

Let me now provide more details on the Automotive segment's performance across key metrics. In the first quarter, the BMW Group delivered around 566,000 BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers. This represents a slight decrease of 3.5% compared to the same period last year, driven by the sales decline of all electric vehicles in the U.S. and China. The BMW brand saw a decline of 4.6% year-on-year. This was driven by shifts in regional and powertrain sales. The MINI brand continued its growth following the successful renewal of its model portfolio, achieving a solid sales increase of 6%.

Let's take a closer look at our sales performance across regions. Starting this year, we have slightly adjusted our regional sales reporting to reflect our sales organization structure rather than geographical continents. In our largest sales region, Europe, deliveries increased slightly by 3%. We saw growth across all powertrains, combustion engine vehicles, all electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids. The BMW brand's order intake in Europe showed strong growth across the entire product portfolio in Q1 with an order bank reaching well into the second half of the year.

In our sales region Asia Pacific, Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, deliveries declined by around 6,700 units or 8.3% year-on-year. This development was influenced by multiple factors, predominantly the macroeconomic environment and the diverse competitive landscape throughout the region, while the conflict in the Middle East had a limited regional sales impact in Q1.

In the Americas region, retail sales decreased by 4% year-on-year, primarily due to the U.S. Here, sales of all electric vehicles dropped significantly following the discontinuation of IRA support in the fourth quarter of last year. Our product portfolio enabled us to largely offset this decline and fulfill customer demand with our attractive combustion engine vehicles. When comparing U.S. sales to previous year, we must also remember that Q1 2025, meaning last year, was positively influenced by strong customer demand, driven by expectations of custom duty increases starting in April 2025. Overall, we performed better than the total U.S. market, which declined by 6.6% in the first quarter.

In China, the overall market declined sharply by over 17% in Q1, driven by reductions of government subsidies and changes of regulations. By comparison, BMW Group sales decreased by 10% and therefore, outperformed the overall market in Q1.

Switching gears to BEV retail sales. In the first 3 months, the BMW Group delivered over 87,000 all-electric vehicles to customers worldwide. Sales of electrified vehicles, including both BEVs and plug-in hybrids amounted to approximately 133,000 vehicles. This represents a BEV share of total sales of 15.5% and an electrified vehicle share of 23.4%.

In Europe, BEV sales continued to grow and order intake increased by more than 60% year-on-year, especially due to strong demand for our all-new iX3 and the iX1. In China and the U.S., the removal of incentives and the reduction of subsidies for electrified vehicles had a noticeable impact on BEV sales year-on-year, reflecting the country-specific market dynamics. Automotive segment revenues declined moderately by 7% to EUR 27.2 billion in the first quarter. Adjusted for currency translation, mainly from the U.S. dollar and the Chinese renminbi, the decrease was 2.9%. It was driven by lower sales volumes and intense global competition.

Let's now take a closer look at the year-on-year changes in the operational results on the following slide. In the first 3 months, changes in currency and raw material positions accounted for a negative impact of around EUR 400 million. As anticipated, the adverse FX development from the second half of 2025 continued into the first quarter of 2026. The net effect of volume, model mix and pricing resulted in a negative impact of around EUR 700 million compared to Q1 2025. In addition to the impact from lower sales volumes, this decline was driven by intense competitive pressure across all major markets.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are continuing cost reductions across the company to tackle the overall headwinds. In the first quarter of 2026, we have further reduced both R&D and capital expenditure, thanks to early investments in the Neue Klasse. As of March, group R&D expenditure totaled around EUR 1.8 billion, a significant decrease of around 12% compared to the previous year.

The R&D ratio according to the German Commercial Code came in at 5.7%. Despite this significant reduction, research and development expenses in the P&L under IFRS increased by EUR 100 million due to 2 factors included: an increase of EUR 200 million in depreciation resulting from capitalized development costs in prior years and a lower R&D capitalization ratio compared to Q1 2025, which decreased by 4.3 percentage points to 31.4%.

Our ongoing commitment to reducing operating costs is further visible by the development of selling and administrative expenses, which decreased by around EUR 100 million year-on-year. Other cost changes provided a tailwind of around EUR 400 million compared to the first quarter of 2025. This includes various factors, most notably manufacturing costs and warranty expenses as well as a year-on-year tariff burden.

Overall, automotive EBIT amounted to EUR 1.3 billion in the first quarter, a decline of approximately EUR 700 million compared to Q1 2025 was driven by headwinds from FX, tariffs and depreciation. Coming to free cash flow in the Automotive segment, which amounted to around EUR 800 million in the first quarter of 2026. The net change in working capital reduced free cash flow by around EUR 500 million as expected.

This mainly reflects the typical Q1 inventory buildup with production exceeding sales volume. The impact of higher inventories was partly compensated by an increase in trade payables, which rose in line with production levels. The net effect of capital expenditure and depreciation contributed about EUR 600 million to free cash flow. Depreciation exceeded capital expenditure in the first quarter, positively impacting free cash flow.

We expected this position to flip versus previous years as we continue to reduce CapEx and see depreciation from earlier investments take effect. This trend will continue throughout 2026. The CapEx ratio for Q1 was 2.0%, reflecting the typically low level seen in the first quarter of the year. The change in provisions reduced free cash flow in the first quarter by EUR 300 million, primarily due to the consumption of warranty provisions.

A change in the position other reduced free cash flow by EUR 300 million, mainly due to regular tax payments. For the full year, the BMW Group is targeting a free cash flow in the Automotive segment above EUR 4.5 billion.

Ladies and gentlemen, the BMW Group remains firmly committed to its shareholder return strategy, which includes both dividend payments and share buybacks. The second tranche of our third share buyback program with a volume of EUR 625 million is currently underway and is scheduled for completion by the end of August at the latest. The third tranche is planned to follow thereafter.

Let's now turn to our Financial Services segment. In the first quarter, the number of new contracts concluded with retail customers increased slightly by 4.3% year-on-year, reaching 420,000 contracts. The penetration rate for lease and loan offerings increased to 51.6% in the first quarter. This development was supported by changes in the competitive environment in China. Mid-2025, local banks significantly reduced commissions related to brokering financing and insurance products for end customers.

Adjusted for FX effects, new business volume grew by 4.1% to about EUR 16 billion. Segment earnings for the first quarter amounted to EUR 381 million, a decrease of EUR 269 million compared to Q1 2025. This decline results from an addition to an already existing risk provision in the U.K. At the end of March, the Financial Conduct Authority, FCA, issued its final cross-sector compensation program for customers who were sold automotive financing products under certain commission models since 2007.

Unfortunately, the published program reflects only a few of the many amendment proposals made to the initial draft by both the U.K. Finance and Leasing Association and the BMW Group. As a result, the compensation payment volume will likely exceed previous estimations. Additionally, income from the resale of end-of-lease vehicles was lower year-on-year as expected. The credit loss ratio across the entire credit portfolio remained low at 0.27%.

In the Motorcycle segment, first quarter deliveries declined slightly by 4.2% year-on-year. The segment EBIT for the first 3 months rose to EUR 89 million with an EBIT margin of 11.4%. Finally, one remark on the other entities result, which increased by around EUR 300 million. This was driven by positive valuation effects from interest rate derivatives resulting from the sharp rise in long-term interest rates in March.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me now turn to our outlook for 2026 and briefly outline some of our current assumptions. The situation in the Middle East currently remains highly uncertain. Our outlook assumes that the ongoing conflict is temporary. The expected tariff impact on our 2026 results can still only be estimated based on our existing assumptions. We expect import duties from the EU to the U.S. to remain at their current levels.

Following the recent positive vote in the European Parliament, we anticipate that tariffs on imports from the U.S. to the EU will drop to 0% effective in the second half of the year. Similarly, tariff reductions for imports into the U.S. from Mexico and Canada are also expected to take effect in the second half of the year.

We continue to anticipate a full year negative impact of around 1.25 percentage points on the auto EBIT margin from the increased tariffs instead of 1.5 percentage points in 2025. In China, we are making good progress with our set of measures to support market performance. The overall vehicle market in China declined more sharply than anticipated throughout the first quarter, already prompting several revisions of official market forecast for the year by the CPCA.

In light of this trend, our focus will remain on achieving the right balance between sales volume, transaction prices and dealer profitability. Based on our assumptions, our full year guidance parameters remain unchanged. Group earnings before tax are expected to be moderately lower than in 2025. In the Automotive segment, we forecast global deliveries to be at last year's level. The automotive EBIT margin is expected to be within a corridor between 4% and 6%. The EBIT margin in the Motorcycle segment should also come in at between 4% and 6%. In the Financial Services segment, we are targeting a return on equity in the range of 13% to 16% for the full year.

Ladies and gentlemen, the year 2026 started off with sound financials for the BMW Group with an auto EBIT margin in the middle of our full year guidance corridor. Within our global business model, we continue to leverage flexibility across powertrains and regions as we ramp up our Neue Klasse. This flexibility enables us to effectively mitigate risks as they arise.

The prudent management of R&D, CapEx and operating costs is clearly reflected in our Q1 results, underscoring our strong commitment to financial discipline. With that, the BMW Group remains on track to meet its operational targets as we advance our strategic plan. And as we roll out the Neue Klasse technologies across the entire portfolio, we at BMW Group and all of our stakeholders have plenty to look forward to. Many thanks.

Thank you very much, Walter. Now over to Oliver Zipse. Oliver, please go ahead.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Before I'm talking about the quarter figures, I would like to address a tragic loss that has deeply touched many BMW fans around the world. On May 1, race driver, long-time BMW works driver and company ambassador, Alessandro Zanardi passed away unexpectedly. Alex, as everyone called him, was an impressive personality, an unwavering optimist and an inspiration to many people worldwide. He demonstrated what is possible in light with dedication, will power and ambition. The BMW Group has lost a fascinating humanitarian representative and BMW M Motorsport has lost an ambitious and successful works driver.

Ladies and gentlemen, Walter Mertl has taken you through the results after the first 3 months of 2026. As we outlined in March at our annual conference, we knew that there would be several headwinds we would face throughout this year. For us, it is about minimizing their impact while consistently leveraging opportunities that arise. At the same time, we remain firmly on course with our long-term strategy, a strategy that has provided clear direction and enabled us to navigate an increasingly unpredictable global business environment over recent years.

Three characteristics in particular, define the BMW way. First, our strategy of technological neutrality; second, the BMW Group's global footprint; and third, inspiring brands and fascinating products. Since 2021, the BMW Group's long-term product and technology orientation has focused on the Neue Klasse. Building on an exceptionally strong foundation of products and successful technologies delivered to customers over many years through to today, we are now making a huge leap forward in nearly every area of technology with the Neue Klasse.

This will pay off as we roll these technologies out rapidly across the whole product portfolio. Remember, last year in September, here in Munich at the IAA Mobility, we represented the BMW iX3, the first vehicle of the Neue Klasse. With this all-new vehicle generation, BMW is now entering into a new era.

The launch of the iX3 has been extremely successful. Just a few weeks ago, in March, we handed over the first BMW iX3 vehicles to customers across Europe. Over the past weeks, the model has also reached showrooms throughout the region. Preorders in Europe now exceeds 50,000 units, underscoring the strong interest in this vehicle. The iX3 also continues to win notable major international awards.

Most recently, it won 2 awards at the renowned World Car Awards. An international jury of 98 automotive journalists presented the BMW iX3 two prestigious titles, the 2026 World Car of the Year, being out competitors across all powertrain categories as well as 2026 World Electric Vehicle of the Year accolade. With the first Neue Klasse model, BMW has delivered a clear step forward in technology and design, one that is resonating strongly with experts, journalists and customers alike.

Now given the very high market demand, we already pulled forward the second shift of BMW iX3 production at our Debrecen plant in February and further rollout across the U.S. and Asian markets is planned for the coming months. And the iX3 was just the beginning. A lot has happened since our annual conference. The Neue Klasse is gradually making its mark across the entire BMW portfolio.

In March, we unveiled the next step with the world premiere of the new BMW i3 at BMW Park here in Munich. Since 1975, the 3 series has inspired dreams. At the core of the brand, each of the eight generations embodies progress and innovation. And with the BMW i3, we are building our future on this rich legacy.

This event provided a unique opportunity to celebrate this milestone not only with media and other key stakeholders, but especially and perhaps most importantly, with our associates. More than 30,000 employees joined the celebrations over days, underscoring the strong bond our team feels with the brand and their pride in this incredible moment, both for the company and for their achievements in bringing this vehicle to life.

As the second model of the Neue Klasse, the BMW i3 perfectly symbolizes the journey BMW has taken over the last years. It is, of course, a completely new vehicle with a reimagined design and seamless integration of advanced technologies. And at the same time, the BMW i3 represents the progress of the BMW Group itself from the systematic modernization of our production facilities through new ways of working that enable efficiency, scalability and our long-term competitiveness.

The i3 will be produced at our main plant in Munich with an investment of around EUR 650 million. The facility has been completely remodeled following the principles of BMW iFactory - lean, green and digital. Production of up to 1,000 vehicles a day continued uninterrupted during the shop floor adaptations over many months.

And now beginning in 2027, the plant will exclusively produce electric vehicles. The plant also continues to make great progress in realizing cost efficiencies. When the i3 rolls off the line for customers, we will have reduced overall production costs at the Munich plant by an additional 10%. These improvements are driven by optimized production processes, targeted automation and digitalization as well as the vehicle design improvements enabled by Neue Klasse technologies.

Series production of the BMW i3 begins in August, followed by the market launch in Europe a few weeks later. Several additional Neue Klasse models will soon be manufactured in Munich, including the all-new BMW i3 Touring. The BMW i3 leverages all the technologies developed for the Neue Klasse from driving dynamics to powertrain, from battery technology to operate concept and, of course, the digital user experience. And you can choose between different drive variants because, as you know, we remain technology open.

Each element is perfectly attuned to the characteristics of the 3 Series, creating a whole new dimension of sheer driving pleasure. This is also confirmed by initial reviews and feedback from customers and journalists, which have been exclusively very positive. This was also evident just 2 weeks ago at Auto China in Beijing, the world's largest automotive trade fair. We presented not 1, not 2, but 3 new models, the BMW iX3 and the BMW i3 Long Wheelbase for the Chinese market as well as the world premier of the BMW 7 Series model update with Neue Klasse technologies and design elements.

The China-specific Neue Klasse vehicles have been developed in close collaboration with our local R&D teams and local partners in China think global, but act local. This enables us to leverage the know-how of leading Chinese tech players and integrate local digital ecosystems and technologies to meet the specific needs of our Chinese customer needs.

For example, in voice assistant features and automated driving solutions. This momentum generated by the Neue Klasse in China will provide a powerful impact for our portfolio and marks the beginning of the next chapter in BMW's tailored innovation and technology leadership in this key market. In 2027 (sic) [ 2026 ] the seven millionth BMW vehicle will roll off designs at our Shenyang production base.

This remarkable milestone underscores our long-term commitment to China, and we are constantly strengthening our local footprint to underpin this momentum. Through deeper localization across the value chain and expanded China-based decision-making, we are faster, more robust and even more synchronized with local customer expectations and market dynamics. The new BMW 7 Series we unveiled in Beijing will kick off the rollout of Neue Klasse technologies across all powertrains and into other product lines and segments.

Coming in the middle of its life cycle, it is the most extensive model revision in BMW's history and will take the 7 Series to a whole new level. The technology-open driver -- drive offer -- sorry, technology-open drive offer covers all customer needs. The updated BMW i7 with new round battery cells features up to over 700 kilometers of range according to the WLTP cycle, meaning an Increase of 100 kilometers from the current version. Start of production will begin in our plant at Dingolfing in July.

The new 7 Series exemplifies BMW's ability to industrialize the latest technologies at speed, integrating them into serious vehicles and making them available directly to our customers. This summer, we will also unveil the next generation of our BMW X5. It will be the first BMW model to be offered with 5 different drivetrain variants, highly efficient conventional powertrains, plug-in hybrids, battery electric and from 2028 on, also hydrogen. In this way, we are laying the foundation to successfully meet the diverse needs of our customers around the world, both today and in the future.

Ladies and gentlemen, our products continue to enjoy strong demand globally. We are well positioned to meet the needs of customers across different regions and markets. In the first quarter, we leveraged the strength of our current portfolio in a shifting environment, supported by a brand offering across brands, segments, drivetrain technologies and geographies. And consistent with our balanced global approach to sales, the performance in Europe helped to partially offset weaker dynamics in other markets. Sales were particularly robust in Germany, where group registrations increased by more than 10% year-on-year.

In China and the United States, the BMW Group performed better than the overall declining markets. BEV orders in Europe were up by around 62% with European sales of fully electric vehicles exceeding the previous year's very high level. And for the fifth consecutive quarter, the MINI brand delivered global growth with sales increasing by 6%.

As we roll out the Neue Klasse, we can look ahead with confidence. Its technologies and design language will provide fresh momentum into our already strong BMW products, offering individual mobility solutions tailored to the needs of customers across markets worldwide. And at the same time, the company is prepared to weather different dynamics in the global markets and to seize opportunities at the same time. That combination is what sets the BMW Group apart. We have stayed on course, consistently implementing our long-term strategy and are now ideally positioned to reap the rewards.

This is very much part of our DNA. Time and again, the BMW Group has proven resilient from the pandemic through supply chain interruptions and semiconductor shortages and the energy crisis. Throughout, we have remained true to our technology open approach, which has proven its strength as global automotive markets continue to transition and deliver stronger results in new technologies.

As this will be my final quarter call as CEO of the BMW Group, I want to extend my sincere thanks to the media and capital market communities who have accompanied me throughout my tenure since 2019. I have always valued our dialogue at times challenging, but consistently constructive, and I am grateful for the professionalism and engagement you have brought to these exchanges.

I hope you will extend the same openness and a warm welcome to my successor, Milan Nedeljkovic. I wish you all the best and look forward to answering your questions one last time. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Oliver. Ladies and gentlemen, we now have a short break before we move on to the Q&A session. See you in 5 minutes.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2026 BMW Group Annual Conference Analyst and Investor Call. My name is Stefan Richmann. I'm the Head of Treasury and Investor Relations at the BMW Group. It is my pleasure to host today's investor and analyst Q&A with Oliver and Walter.

As Oliver mentioned earlier, we continue to leverage our global business model and the advantages of our technology neutral strategy, meeting demand for both combustion engine vehicles and electrified vehicles. With the successful rollout of the NEUE KLASSE iX3, we have kicked off a major product offensive that will provide the BMW brand with crucial momentum for the future.

Walter has shared with you how we have navigated 2025 and delivered on major KPIs in our operational business despite the tariff impacts, developments on currency markets and the intense market situation in China. Disciplined and consistent cost reduction underpinned our performance. We have also provided comprehensive and reliable guidance for 2026, factoring in all known and decided aspects against an uncertain geopolitical backdrop and tariffs.

With that, I will turn the floor over to you, and we are happy to take your questions.

Our first caller will be Patrick Hummel from UBS. Patrick, I can see you on the screen. Welcome this morning. And please, the stage is yours.

So Oliver, first of all, your tenure is coming to an end soon. And you've not been shy to be anti-consensual on many of the key topics that we have discussed with you over the years. But your way of doing things or the BMW way of doing things has worked out pretty well compared to competition. So I'm curious when you soon hand over to Milan, what's actually your high-level advice to him? And what have been your key learnings over your tenure that you think are going to be most valuable for your successor and the entire company in the future?

And the second one for Walter. I have to dive a little bit deeper into the 2026 guidance, if you don't mind. You take certain assumptions for tariffs that some people this morning call quite optimistic, such as the EU lowering the tariff to 0 later in the year, also some sort of USMCA agreement that would improve the current situation. So to better understand and quantify what you've baked in versus the status quo, can you just give us the 105 basis points of tariff impact alternatively? What would be the right number in a no-deal scenario? Would it be 175 basis points, 150, whatever, that would be helpful.

And if you don't mind elaborating a little bit on the other key building blocks in the EBIT bridge for 2026, the usual volume/price mix, costs, G&A, all of these.

Thank you very much, Patrick, for your questions and also for being so kind to directly allocating them to Oliver and Walter that, of course, makes my job easier. So first, the question to Oliver from your side with regards to his tenure as it comes to an end after more than 3 decades with the BMW Group and regarding high-level advice for Milan, over to you, Oliver.

Patrick, I regard being anti-consensual as a compliment. We are living in a competitive environment. And to be consensual is probably the first mistake you're about to do if you want to compete in a pretty high-level competition in our industry. You know what drives us, if I give one word to what we -- it's not me, it's we, including Milan, of course, what we have been doing for the past years is to become anti-fragile, if I might use that word. And anti-fragile means you are profiting from a highly volatile world. And there are 3 components to it, and we built on that competitive strength for the past 10 years.

To be a global company helps you. Like you have seen, we have been shrinking in China, but we have overcompensated with growth in Europe and rest of the world and the United States. To be technology neutral or technology open, however you want to phrase that, helps you to quickly respond to market needs and requirements and you have very fast growing electrifying countries and you have countries who hit the brakes. And to assume that would never be the case is the first mistake you do. This is a highly fluctuating world. And under the assumption, which every year holds true, the number of cars being sold in the world as new cars is increasing, not decreasing. So the world market is there.

And the third component is, of course, that you are -- that you offer cars in all segments with all drivetrains. So it starts with a MINI, then goes over to the lower segments at BMW, all the way up to 7 Series and now very soon, ALPINA plus Rolls-Royce, of course. So all these 3 elements built an anti-fragile environment. And then all you have to do, you have to train your muscle to react quickly. And that is what we have done through all supply chain crisis we might have had. Corona crisis, energy, whatever you call crisis, it helps you to train that muscle of maximum flexibility.

In Milan, you won't even -- probably you won't even feel that there is a change in top leadership because he has been with us all along. There's good reason that he becomes my successor. So individual people do not make a big difference in our strategy because our strategy is built up of a close negotiation and devising a strategy with top leadership and top leadership at BMW is 65 Vice Presidents and 7 Board members. It's not -- and it's not -- therefore, not a top-down issue. So there will be some very, very stable elements in our strategy.

Thank you very much, Oliver. And now turning to your second question, Patrick. It was about the 2026 guidance and providing some additional detail, specifically on tariff assumptions and you were asking about individual building blocks within the EBIT bridge. And for that, of course, I would like to hand over to you, Walter.

Patrick. So first, I thank you with respect to the tariffs assumption. Why is that? Because everyone is raising this question, of course. So eventually, we start with 2025, first of all, to have a base. In 2025, we had a lot of ups and downs. You remember, in Q1, we had more or less 3/4 of an EBIT margin hit because of China cars coming into Europe, and we started with the U.S. then in Q2, and we had 2.0% in Q2, and 1.75 percentage EBIT hits in Q3 as well as in Q4. And you do know, I'm not specifying it, whether it is 1.4%, and I would still speak about 1.5% or whether it's 1.6%. I would also classify this 1.5%. So there is a variance in already.

Now going forward, we assume and we wrote about it on Page 263, for everyone in this call, it's Page 263 on the tariffs. It's about -- in the second half year, we assume that we are -- we will see changes to the better. We assume EU and the U.S. will come to the final agreement and we still assume it is nil from the second half year onwards, meaning July, whatever July really means then. And ultimately, we also assume that there will be a better negotiation between the U.S., with Mexico and Canada and some other countries.

And with that, we assume that we are not having a 1.75% burden in the first half year, but lower. And overall in the year '26, we shall see 1 and 1 quarter, 1.25 EBIT points earned in the EBIT margin. It's not on top. It is instead of the 1.5% EBIT burden in 2025. So instead, not on top. I think that's the key element, number one.

And then you asked for some further details, which we wrote on Page 264, for everyone. I'm happy to highlight these once again. So we are working on all cost elements. Whether we speak about CapEx, we will reduce CapEx. We will reduce also R&D further on the German commercial law side. And we will reduce also the fixed costs. That means sales and general costs, SG&A., so on all elements. But we shouldn't forget about the depreciation, which we see based on the start of the NEUE KLASSE. You saw some already in Q4, but just a bit. And with the restart of production, we see, of course, the depreciation starting across the year. And with that, there is a burden.

And on top of that, with the start of the NEUE KLASSE, you remember that our activation on development costs is finished 6 months after start of production. And we focused heavily on all elements of the NEUE KLASSE. All our tech clusters are getting activated and 6 months after start, not anymore. Hence, our activation ratio is going down in the second half year latest, but you shall see already some elements in the first half year.

Ending, before the next question is coming, that we assume an activation ratio -- a capitalization ratio of R&D costs of around 30%. You saw that in '25, we had 41% capitalization ratio of R&D, and we assume it is around 30%. That gives you also a burden on top of that. And of course, we also wrote about the product measures we described and discussed even in China. On the other side, I have to say, currently, in the first 2 months, we see transaction price stabilization even to the better. So that works out. All these product measures we did starting in November and now 1 month after the other, we are shifting something behind. And also the dealer network is stabilizing themselves. So that should help a bit at least.

Now if you take all these elements together, still the headwind is bigger than the tailwind, which we're working on. And that ended up in the assumption that we'd rather guide for the segment automobile 4% to 6% instead of 5% to 7% last year. And with that burden, we come also to the conclusion for the group that we have a moderate decline. A moderate decline is between 10% and 15% minus the previous years, which I think I would like to underpin last year was a very good group profit of the year as guided, and we are better than EUR 10 billion profit. So that is a very high position to start with in this current environment, especially if I look around some others. Hope that helps, Patrick.

Thank you, Walter, and all the best. Oliver.

Thank you very much, Walter, for this detailed explanation. We have the next caller up. And I hope we will see him on screen in just a second. That will be right here, we've seen José Asumendi from JPMorgan. The stage is all yours for your questions. Thank you.

Two questions, please. Oliver, I would love to hear your thoughts, please, when you look at the Chinese market over the next, let's say, 3 years, what do you think are the biggest challenges BMW will have to confront in the region? And then looking back then at the work you've done in the last 3, 5 years, how are you leaving the group in terms of the manufacturing and the product offensive to be able to compete and obviously take further market share?

And then Walter, I'd love to also get some thoughts, please. What drives the lower end and the upper end of the margin range? You provided already very detailed reply to this, but a bit more thoughts as to the lower end and the upper end of the margin range for the Automotive division and whether we should expect some -- potentially some pricing relief in 2026 in China as hopefully, you will have to support less the dealers in China in '26 in comparison to '25?

Thank you very much for your 3 questions, José. And the first 2, I will then hand on to Oliver. The third one obviously, to Walter. First question being from your side, what is our expectation on the Chinese market over the next 3 years, whether we see any big challenges and what are those? Oliver, please go ahead.

When you look at the Chinese market, then the first thing you must recognize this is by far the largest car market in the world. And all along, it was clear, the largest car market in the world will be highly competitive, highly innovative and, of course, dominated by the largest local players. So what happened and is still happening in this market is not a surprise. It's normalizing. So when you say normalizing, that means there is competition in a saturated market, like we have in Europe and in the United States. To survive in such an environment of saturated market, of course, you have to safeguard your profitability. And you cannot expect that you have higher profitability as somewhere else in the world, which is not a big disaster and not a surprise.

Now with the NEUE KLASSE coming up, and we already received very high resonance from the NEUE KLASSE, the iX3, which will also be available very soon in the Chinese market in the long version. The feedbacks we get are as positive as we have them here in Europe. There is no difference, underlining that we are highly competitive. Why are we highly competitive? The car in China is very much made in China for China. We are collaborating, of course, with local supply chains. We are collaborating with leading China tech players like Alibaba, Huawei, Momenta. We have a local production at the Shenyang blend and we will present the car at the Beijing Auto Show next month. So this car is underlining exactly what the next 3 years -- and that is your question, what is important in China? High local content, super innovative and highly competitive. And all 3 elements is inside the iX3 for the Chinese market.

So there is a very positive outlook. And as we said before, this is not a car. This is a technology platform with technology clusters. And all cars, which are being launched after that, for example, the local X5 will bear all these technologies. So we have a positive outlook into that market, especially with the launch of the car. And the main fundament, if you want to compete in the Chinese market in the future, the Chinese content will be ever higher, and that's exactly what we do.

Thank you, Oliver, for this look into the future regarding the Chinese market and following up with José's second question, what have we done in the last 3 to 5 years, specifically with regards to manufacturing and our product offensive?

I mean what you see in our production and product, that always comes together kind of -- production comes from product. And what we see with all these technology clusters, which you will see in more than 40 cars until end of 2027, you will see exactly the same thing in the production areas. And you will see that in productivity, the throughput with AI applications are as high in the manufacturing area as it's in the product area and which help will increase productivity as well as the quality and the output of the cars.

So new technologies are at the forefront of BMW, and this process of optimization will never end. There's never an end. We -- every year, we have pretty tough targets for productivity improvement. So every year, this production system becomes more expensive. And there's a good reason why Milan becomes my successor because he has done that very, very successfully in the manufacturing area. And of course, you will see that at the end, you will see bottom line.

And the production is well on track worldwide. The Munich's -- plant here in Munich will start very soon with the i3. It has been completely rebuilt in Spartanburg, the new X5 starts very soon and next year, the new X7. In Leipzig and Regensburg, they're both working 3 shifts because of the high demand for the cars in these factories, and the new plant in Debrecen also works well. So our plants are full speed ahead for the product offensive we are undertaking now.

Thank you very much, Oliver. And now moving to José's third question, I would like to pass that on to Walter. And I think it goes pretty well hand-in-hand with Patrick's question on guidance 2026. So José is asking how the lower and the upper end of the margin corridor in the auto segment could be driven. Walter, over to you.

Yes. Well, the corridor is a corridor, right? So that's the reason why it's 4% to 6%. And of course, as we are in the beginning of this year, anything could happen. As we remember in '25, 12 months ago, over the course of following 8 to 9 months, also a lot of things have changed on the cost side, on the pricing side, across the geopolitics and the regions. So luckily, we are a global player. And hence, in '25, we have been able to shift margins also between China with the success, especially in Europe and the U.S. And you can only do that as a global player, and we are happy to do that.

Other than that, of course, it's about pricing, it's about cost targets, how we achieve them. And I think in '25, we saw that we executed very good in my eyes. And of course, it's about the tariffs that our assumptions are right or not. On the other side, there is always risk and there's always a chance. And we try to organize them from a portfolio aspect. And we manage that one in the same year this year as we did it last year. And usually, you see that driving cost down is always a good thing because that is in our own hand. All the rest, we have to organize flexibly with the markets on the pricing side. But so far, I think 4% to 6% is a very good prediction and guidance.

Thank you very much, Walter, for this answer. And we will now move on to the next caller. We should be seeing Tim Rokossa from Deutsche Bank, and we see him right here already on screen. Good morning, Tim. The stage is yours. Please go ahead with your questions. Tim, we are not hearing you, and I'm wondering whether there's technically on our side or whether it is on yours.

Yes, sorry, I was not unmuted by the host yet.

I can't believe how happy I am that it was unmuted on your side.

So thank you, Stefan, Oliver and Walter. I have 2.5 questions, please. The first one goes to you, Oliver. When we think about the support from the EU, it feels like the regulator has finally understood how important this industry is and wants to help. But whatever they come out with seems oddly complex and difficult and probably beyond the point. I wrote Oliver Blume yesterday. And obviously, there was also a lot of investor questions about what he thinks the industry -- the EU should do for the industry, some very specific points about EU-made BEVs, for example, getting support for them. Do you feel like the EU has finally understood that they need to help this industry and want to help them? And what would be your view of what they should do to do that?

And then secondly, Stefan, I'm allocating the questions here as well. But obviously, please feel free to reallocate them. When we think about China, maybe Walter here, what do you say to people that just feel like they have a bit of a deja vu moment at this point in time compared to last year, where you also were very optimistic on the Chinese development. You also guided for some improvements from what we see right now. I understand the transaction prices have stabilized, but it still really feels like something that might be a bit awakening in the summer.

And the final point, probably also to you, Walter, why do you decide to bake in the tariff easing in the rest of the year? When we look at someone like Daimler Truck this morning, for example, they don't. I think there's reasons to believe that you should rather show what is the reality today, rather than taking a view on when this would be signed.

Thank you very much for your questions, Tim. First one will be going to Oliver, the other 2, then obviously to Walter. And the first one with regards to the EU, support from the EU has the regulator really understood. Oliver, over to you. And since the question already came up this morning in media, maybe the concise brief version are on that question.

I'll try to make it brief. Tim, it's great that you're participating. You seem to be part of the inventory of this meeting. I cannot remember the last year that you have not been here. So good morning to you specifically. I will try to make it very short. Very clearly, the EU is making things not complicated. Complicated is not the problem. We can control complexity. That's not the problem. But they're working against the industry. In the news proposal, which came out in December, they tried to put even more topics in where markets are restrained from developing themselves. One portion is, yes, they go from 100% to 90% CO2. But how to achieve that in the small print, it actually works against technology openness.

The second element, and that was not in the legislation before they tried to put European content in such a way that export models and the German car industry is very much export orientated is neglected. So all the European content, which comes out of export is simply not taken into account, which is a very dangerous thing, I think, because this creates a lot of job and a lot of value. And to only favor smaller cars, which are 4 meters, 20 and longer, you can do that. We don't mind giving incentives. But how it's written, it creates 2 classes of cars. And that, of course, reduces the competitiveness of the whole industry. So the small print behind it is still very much technology unopen, too much focus on electric only and not enough focus on real CO2 reduction.

And I'll end with a question, what happens to a regulation where the markets will -- in the electric arena, also with our products grows to 50% market share, and then it stalls. If that regulation is implemented and that is happening in the market, you will shrink this industry. And I think this is a dangerous path to go to. And with that, I stop. I was supposed to be short.

Thank you very much, Oliver, but I think the message came across. Second question, over to you, Walter, was with regards to the guidance 2026. Our provision on the Chinese market, its development, whether it might be too optimistic. Please, over to you.

Too optimistic. We rather like risks to incorporate them as Chairmans, don't we? No, we do not. We have to see chances and risks. And with respect to China, if you really compare the last 6 months and you see month after month or you eventually rather quarter-by-quarter, you will see that the dealer network and all these measures we have taken in place are starting to get more grasp and starting to be more effective and stabilizing the dealer network. That's the first of all, because in the Chinese environment on all dealers, not just BMW, the whole industry, there is still a lot of irritation, let's say, with all these new rules also come in place, right? The price has to be finally over costs, which I really appreciate from SAMR, the new rules, which they also double check. So I'm really highly appreciating those. So that's already a positive sign with respect to the transaction price. And we see that in December, in January, in February, and they are stabilizing and even raising. So they are becoming better -- positive for us.

Second, we also did a lot of product measures. In November, we started the first tranche in February, the second one and the next one will come. So we are enhancing product attractivity and increasing transaction prices for those products and it works. And the third one, which is, well, take it optimistic or realistic whatever, if you see the run rate of our sales in China, if it moves on like that, we can achieve previous year. Of course, if everything is crushing, then we have a different scenario, but our run rate is stable.

And don't mix up the Chinese New Year, there's always a difference between January and February that has always to be a year-to-date February number. Otherwise, you would fail yourself. So taking all this into consideration, we see the chance and we wrote in our guideline -- guidance that we can achieve previous year. We didn't say that we want to achieve the previous year. Of course, we also aim for profitable growth and stabilization, always the thing. But given all the facts and given what we did in the network, we can achieve previous year, even if you compare the numbers year-to-date February, once you saw them already from CAAM. You see that we are still on a very good track compared with all other competitors, whether they are Chinese or traditional ones. From that perspective, I still think what we wrote is absolutely spot on and correct.

And with respect to the tariffs why I am baking them in already. Well, I think we have to mention that one, what our assumption is plus 1/4 of an EBIT margin, yes, that is also a lot of money. But we will also find some assumptions and some measures in order to compensate should we fail in our assumption. And you saw that last year. 12 months ago, we've been the only ones mentioning that we bake in 1% extra costs for tariffs and ultimately, they have become 1.5%. And we found measures to try to compensate this 0.5% point. So now we speak about a difference of 0.25%, and we still have 1.5 months to go. On the other side, we really hope that tariffs will be lowered across the world because free trade would be best for everyone. So that is also a communication from us to everyone. Hope that helps.

Great. Thank you very much, Walter, for your answers. Thank you, Tim. We now have next up in line Horst Schneider from Bank of America, and there he is. Horst, good morning to you, and please, the stage is yours.

Very good morning also to Munich and to the Board. I have got 2, 3 questions, please. The first one is regarding cost versus volumes. What I have got to say is what is really outstanding. Oliver also what you have achieved over your tenure is basically this level of cost cutting without announcing big major programs and layoffs. Also for 2026, my impression is that a large part of the stability you aim for come from lower cost. That, of course, then raises for me the question, what comes after 2026. And here, I refer more to the midterm guidance.

Is now the cost-cutting potential -- basically exploited after 2026 and needs the margin growth from 2027 onwards to come more from volume growth? And with that, the question would be do you expect the premium market to grow again? Or you expect to gain market share? You said today in the media call, Oliver, that you expect not to lose market share to the Chinese OEMs in Europe. I share that view. But you aim to take market share from Chinese OEMs in China or you take more market share from legacy OEMs from your traditional peers as of '27. So what is the trade-off between volume and cost regarding the midterm guidance?

The second question that I have is regarding EVs, I was surprised about this great contribution and reconciliation in Q4. So Walter, may be a question for you since now, I think BEV leases in U.S. is structurally lower in '26. We're going to see this tailwind throughout '26 that this is a major part, basically for the group earnings. And maybe you can remind us how you treat EV residual values in your portfolio. You constantly write-down or you write down basically at the end of the contract period. What is now the share of EVs in your leasing portfolio?

Thank you very much for your questions, Horst. And of course, it needs to be pointed out. I didn't notice that as first that you're wearing the right apparel for this call. That's very much appreciated. Thank you for that. And first question then obviously goes to Oliver. You asked about the trade-off between cost and volumes. First of all, the price, how we've handled that in the recent past, but also a midterm guidance and how do we expect the premium market to grow and whether we intend to gain market share also in the Chinese marketplace, specifically in Europe from Chinese competitors. Oliver, over to you, please.

On the fixed cost side, not on the market, we made substantial progress last year. And we are of the opinion, this is a continuous management task. And you see that -- if you look at our figures, you can see that. We are against programs. We are against publicly announced programs because that kind of reduces the responsibility of management to take that task very seriously. So we don't talk about it. We try to really do it whenever it's necessary. And of course, these things come in waves. There are years where it's easier, where years, but we every year become more efficient all the way -- also started last year already with the help of AI.

On the market side, the question is wrongly asked, cost versus volume. I know that people love to have that orientation to say, which way should they go. But it's the wrong question because good contribution margin is the sum of both. And flexibility is the most important thing if an opportunity arises to create positives or a super positive contribution margin, you quickly have to react. So flexibility to quickly, that it's 10x more important than to say we push volume or we only concentrate on the upper segment, it's the completely wrong question, because that is a result and not a target.

So I will never let people ask you what do we want to say, we want good contribution margins. And then, of course, these opportunities with quickly changing markets. The core question is, how quickly can we get into all these little niches where opportunity rises. And the good thing is the opportunities change currently very much. That means it's not important that you have a strategy to be in that market that you have the flexibility to react very quickly. And that is what we call anti-fragile, that we have in all segments, all drivetrains, we can always very swiftly react and we are after contribution margin and not after cost or after volume in the first place. Thank you.

Thank you, Oliver. Horst, your second question was on EVs, specifically BEV leasing situation in the U.S. and whether it constitutes a tailwind for 2026, then also the handling of leasing contracts with regards to depreciation and the share of EVs in our leasing portfolio overall and all of these topics at once, I would like to hand over to you, Walter.

All in one. Well, let me start with that. In different markets, we have different penetration ratios. And the U.S. has one of the highest leasing penetration ratios, not to forget the loan, there is also a loan business there.

With respect to BEV leasing, because of IRA and the subsidies more or less coming from the government, leasing was the one and only for BEVs because on loan, you wouldn't have received anything. And BEV was a very high share. Now with the stop of IRA subsidies from October 1 onwards, that had an impact in the U.S., of course, on BEV sales. And on top of that, into our leasing portfolio. So in Q4, leasing penetration came down in the U.S. And with that, you have, of course, effects on the elimination part, which I guess you also raised coincidentally the question. Hence, there was a different impact in our segment consolidation because that is always the contra of the auto business. You do know elimination is mainly for financial services business. So auto sold the car and in the group, nothing happened. So I have to take it out, means minus. If there's less financial services business, there is less minus, and it could appear as positive amount, right? That happened in Q4 dedicatedly.

Now you also raised the question with respect to how we treat residual values. Well, we always treated length at the start of the contract, thinking about where is the residual value in 36 months if it is a 36-month contract. Of course, also 48, 30, you name it. But always, once the customer is signing it, we see every quarter, of course, we are doing our total portfolio revaluation. And we do know which prices we have been capable to achieve for the off-lease cars. So that's our prediction model. It's not that easy explained. It's a bit more complex, a lot of math. But that means if you depreciate a car already higher or lower, during the course of the contract is already the first topic, right, how big is the depreciation during the contract time.

Second, on top of that, with the revaluation, we double check whether we have to adjust across the portfolio. That's what we also do. And that is a permanent approach. Every quarter, we are doing that. And this is ending up in our balance sheet. If you have a look for our residual value provisions, that's the second part. The first part, you can't see because it's our leased-out products. You just depreciate, you don't know whether we depreciate it on a straight high level or on a low level. Sorry, I'm not sharing this information.

But you see this on top provision. And that is how we deal with that. And that is how we organized with shrinking used car prices since we had the top prices in '22 and '23. That's why we speak about lower residual value profits than we had previous years because we see that it comes down gradually step by step. But it's still positive, but less positive than previous year. And even this effect, you see in 3 segments, you see it in auto, you see it in financial services and you see as a contra in consolidation. That's how we deal with the financial services lease business, especially. Hope that helps.

Reconciliation is going to be a positive contribution in 2026, significant positive contribution, right?

Whatever you classify as significant, but we can assume if we have less BEV leases in the U.S., you will have less negative consolidations that way around. But of course, don't forget, we are not just dealing with leases in the U.S. We have it across the world. U.K. is getting the iX3, for example, now in Europe already. Leases are going there. So there might be contras, might be different. But yes, you're right.

Thank you very much, Walter. Maybe just a quick statement on how we are proceeding so far. We have obviously quite some interest in our figures in the guidance 2026. For the next callers coming up, and we still have several in line, I kindly ask you to limit yourselves to one question each. We have already answered quite a significant amount of topics, and we surely have covered a lot of issues already. So therefore, please limit yourself to one question.

Next one up, and we should see him on screen rather soon. There he is, Mike Tyndall from HSBC. Mike, the stage is yours. Mike, please do me the favor and check whether it works on your side.

I'm hoping you can hear me now.

Now we can hear you. Yes. Thank you.

Fantastic. I will stick to one question then. Just one for Walter, please. If I look at the profits from BBAC, we were at around EUR 270 million in '25, down from about EUR 1.4 billion in the prior year. When you talk about China achieving the same sort of number for this year, can you just unpick the difference there? How much of that was one-off? And therefore, how much of a recovery is likely in that profitability of BBAC in 2026?

Good. Question goes to you, Walter, regarding profit from BBA in 2025 and an outlook for 2026 with regards to potential one-off effects in 2025 that may have an effect in 2026. Over to you.

Right. Mike, so I hope you have a look for the right disclosure in our 432 pager. You see 2 elements where you can see BBA numbers. One is the group consolidated one. There you end, obviously, with EUR 227 million, but that is after BBA after OCIs. So that is a rather consolidated view. In the disclosure where we present all the shares we have on every legal entities, you see the legal entity view. And there you see more than just EUR 227 million, rather EUR 1.2 billion. So I hope you see it the right disclosure.

Now with respect to '25 versus '26, all measures in place, we did already a lot of fixed cost cuts in '25 to stabilize the situation. And we have given also a lot of cost targets on the manufacturing cost side, on fixed cost side, which they are driving forward positively. So we assume that we are running more or less stable year-on-year '25, '26 with our assumption that they hit the cost targets and they've organized also the price targets they have. And I'm so far positive at least the 2 first months I saw.

Good. Thank you very much, Walter. And we have the next one in line, and we will probably not see him, but only hear him if I understand that correctly. So via not there we see you, Stephen, very good. So Stephen Reitman from Bernstein. Stephen, please go ahead with your question.

First of all, again, congratulations, Oliver. I mean it's been obviously an incredible environment you've had to deal with since 2019, and which you've done gracefully, and I think it's a great effect for BMW. My question actually is for Walter, and it's about the cash flow. At the Q3 stage, part of the reason for the reduction in the cash flow guidance last year was this timing -- the timing mismatch that the refund you were expecting were not going to occur on tariffs in 2025, so it's going to come in '26. So my question really is about the guidance on the cash flow for 2026. How much of that includes the expected refunds you're getting from the U.S. Treasury for the tariffs -- for the refunds on tariffs? And can you just generally talk about where you see sort of the refunds from tariffs going forward really?

Thank you very much, Stephen, for your question concerning cash flow and focusing on cash flow only. Question being, coming out of the Q3 statement that we made, we had a clear statement there that a reduction of our cash flow expectation for 2025 came out of the postponed tariff refund and whether that now and to what extent it has an impact on the 2026 guidance. And with that, I hand it over to you, Walter. Please go ahead.

Stephen, well, we had to reassess our receivables expected in November as, for example, Europe didn't come in place, and I can't put receivables against the EU at the current stage based on which contracts. So I had to reduce that one first of all. And hence, I would rather speak about receivables of a mid-3-digit million number rather than this high level. And secondly, also with respect to the U.S. authorities, we have to say that we see in terms of our volumes, in terms of process complexities and also sometimes also effects as a result of shutdowns, numbers came up and down. But ultimately, we are running on.

I can say that with respect to the 3.75% discount, we handed into the authorities our claim for April '25 to March '26,already. That is not finally confirmed yet by the authorities, but we handed the claims in already. With respect to this procedure, we assume that we are not getting cash back, but we rather can run more or less our tariffs to be paid as a discount of that one. That's more or less the assumption so that we just pay net rather than getting a gross number to us and the other one is paid by us. That is our current assumption and understanding with the U.S. authorities with respect to going forward. Hope that helps.

Thank you very much, Walter. And also thank you to you, Stephen, to sticking to one question only. We have run over the official time already, but we will continue with just one question each. I believe we still have 3 callers in line. First one already on the screen right now, Christian, Christian Frenes from Goldman Sachs. Christian, the stage is yours for your question. Thank you.

And also from my part, Oliver, thank you and congratulations on your stewardship of the BMW through what has been a really volatile environment from 2019 to 2026. I think the execution has been really impressive and underlines your flexibility strategy. My question is really on T&R, the new retail strategy. And my question for you, Oliver, would be what are your thoughts on the strategic importance of shifting to T&R? Why is it so important? And perhaps as part of the same question, just the financial impact of shifting the BMW brand in 2026 to T&R, should there be any financial impact that we should expect? Maybe the last one is a little bit for Walter.

Thank you very much, Christian, for your question concerning T&R. I will just briefly say the abbreviation stands for the new retail, which is in Europe, our sales model change to direct sales. And you were asking with regards to its strategic importance for the BMW Group and also financial impact. I would indeed give the question on strategic importance and relevance to you, Oliver. And then an expectation with regards to when BMW will be shifting to T&R and the potential financial impact. Walter, I will be handing that to you. So Oliver, please start.

T&R, the new retail is based on 3 assumptions. First of all, we are in the business of individual mobility. That means each car we sell is owned by an individual with very specific needs. That's the first assumption. And I think you would not -- you would agree that this is a valid assumption.

The second assumption is the future of understanding our customers is largely based on AI competence, to know what he has owned in the past, what his lifestyle is, what his expectations are. To make him very individual offers for other products is a central function.

And the third one is, we already have down the road because we installed T&R in our European operation of MINI and our learning experiences are quite positive. We're not in a rush to implement that. But we are almost 80% through with the preparation of the IT systems. So it doesn't come at one single point. I think there is no way back. We believe we will introduce that step-by-step because individual mobility will be closely linked to understanding the customer individually. And that is something you can only do as a retailer and not as a wholesaler. Does that mean that we don't need partners? No, it's exactly the other way around.

We need dealers, partners, entrepreneurs just as we before, but we need central intelligence of understanding the customer. So strategically, we are unwavering. Are we in a rush? No. We do it step by step, just like we have done it with MINI. We introduced it in the first countries in 2022. We're now in 2026. So we will take our time, but there is no way back.

Thank you, Oliver, and Walter, over to you with regards to financial implication.

Well, with respect to the financial implication, it's a positive aspect because we create price stability online and offline. There is no haggling around the pricing from dealer A to dealer B to dealer C and the customer is just playing this game. So there is stability for everyone. And not to forget, people are starting to change their habits, not running on Google Search machines anymore and on our homepages. They run ChatGPTs and Cloud, whatever. And that will search for pricing. Currently, under MSRP under our wholesale system, we can advise MSRPs. But ultimately, we deal with independent dealers and the independent dealer is setting their price.

Now we have a mixture of offers by different OEMs. Some are already on direct sales. So they have the transaction price on the list, and others like us on BMW side, we are running in wholesale, meaning on our homepage is the MSRP and not the transaction price. Now if ChatGPT or Cloud or whatever machine is searching for the best price and best offer, surely, the one who is organizing and presenting the real transaction price is better off than the other. So that is why Oliver Zipse also mentioned we will run into this direction automatically because that will be the advantage and to get the same price in the country rather than different ones.

And from our point of view, we also have done a better chance for upsell procedures online and offline because we can present the products rather than having the discussion at the dealer side about the pure price. It's about the products and all features in it.

And finally, the last positive topic on financial impact is stock management because we can do it centrally, like Oliver mentioned, rather than having a dealer individual stock management. And usually, in total, you will have always too much stock in the pipeline and that creates price pressure again. So once we do it on a central stock management, we do know in which areas and regions we run which cars and sell which cars, we can optimize that one as well and that saves, again, further costs. That is our position. So we are looking forward to implement that also for BMW in Europe.

Thank you, Walter, and thank you, Christian, for this very important question. We're now coming to the second to last in line and we have him on screen already. Stuart Pearson, Oxcap Analytics. Stuart, please your question.

Just quickly, Walter, just to clarify, did I hear correctly, apologies if I missed it, but based on what you're seeing year-to-date in China, do you think profitability there could be flat this year? I wasn't sure if that's what you were trying to say or if you just meant more on volume terms. But my main question was just on mix because you're coming out of a period, I guess, it's been relatively strong in that respect. Obviously, you have the X5 changeover this year, which in previous incarnations would have created some volatility. I think it was down 20% volume-wise in 2018. But it sounds like -- I think you said you're running 3 shifts there already. It sounds like maybe this time there will be minimal disruption from there. So I wonder what you expect from mix for the full year, but also in Q1? And is it right to assume that with some mix disruption, I think you mentioned FX would be tougher in Q1 and tariffs as well that Q1 would be one of the weaker quarters of the year.

Thank you, Stuart. And if you don't mind, I would briefly comment on the first question since we do not guide individually per region. I will leave that up to Walter, whether he wants to start guiding on regions now, but that would be my answer, at least. And the second one then was regarding to mix, especially with X5 changeover, Walter, I hand that over to you.

Stuart, so absolutely right. We are not doing country-specific guidance. But the discussion you're referring to was with respect to the legal entity BBA, where I helped Mike to find the right number in our disclosure. So that was the number. And further on, I elaborated that they also have the fixed cost targets and material cost targets and price targets and that was the story.

Now with respect to the effects expectations on full year Q1, the expectation on full year is that we are ending up with 4% to 6% in this corridor with segment Automobile, of course. And yes, we also mentioned already in Q3 that we are facing an FX headwind in the first half year and especially in Q1. And why is that? Exchange rates deteriorated, especially end of Q2 '25. That's why we had this big exchange rate effect in the second half year of '25. If everything stays stable, that will move over into the first half year of '26 with an exchange rate burden. And I said, rather in Q1, why is that? Because in Q2, the deterioration started already.

Now coming to your strong X5 changeover. We have a good mix. Don't forget that the NEUE KLASSE starts to kick in, in the second half year. And X5 is still on a very good sale mode and it's not stopping in whenever during this year. So that's quite positive.

Thank you, Walter. And we're just about to end, but we still have Henning Cosman from Barclays joining us, so he should be coming up on stage on screen in just a second. It is via audio only, sorry about that Henning. But then please go ahead and ask your question. We can hear you indeed.

Okay. Perfect. I'll try and be brief. So I'll save my congratulations to Oliver for the Q1 call. My question is on total shareholder return. I'm surprised it hasn't come up yet. It's probably to Walter. So as a combination of dividend and share buyback, of course, would you say it's fair to assume that the moderate decline to your group EBT guidance as a proxy to net profit and ultimately, dividend payment as well and draw conclusions to the dividend component of TSR.

And then on the share buyback, I suppose if you were to conclude the remainder of the existing envelope that could be up to EUR 1.3 billion or so. But between the two, would imply below EUR 4 billion. And separately, I think unlike last year, you also haven't said explicitly at least that the shareholder return could exceed the Automotive free cash flow. So I was just wondering if you could help us a little bit with the potential magnitude of TSR? Could it exceed the Automotive free cash flow this year? Again, are you prepared to comment on that at this stage? Any more color would be great, I think.

Thank you for your question, Henning. Concerning total shareholder return, some assumptions on your side, whether our current guidance gives an indication with regards to net profit and potentially dividend payments for the year 2026. And also, as we already stated for the year 2025, whether we would be willing to exceed the available Automotive cash flow in order to follow-up with shareholder return payments. And I would hand that question, of course, over to you, Walter, with regards to 2026.

Henning, so in principle, our framework hasn't changed, right? Our framework is 30% to 40% and share buyback. And usually, we also limit that with free cash flow. And as an exception, last year in '25, we said exclusive to free cash flow situation. And that's what we did. So ultimately, in '25, you shall see with our proposed dividend, which has to run through the Annual General Meeting, of course, plus share buyback, we would have achieved EUR 4 billion cash out and we have achieved an auto free cash flow of EUR 3.2 billion. So we can do statements that we are overrunning the Automotive free cash flow. Usually, I would see that as an exception. But between 30% and 40%, there's a lot of room for maneuver.

The suggestion we do to the Annual General Meeting is 36.6% payout. So there is still room for 40%, whatever we discuss. And I think that is a discussion for in 11 months rather than now. We just can highlight that we're sticking to our rules and the share buyback. We are running currently. The second tranche is going to be ending by August. And we also mentioned that we earmarked already the third tranche. So share buybacks are moving on. I think that is all I can say to this topic currently.

Thank you very much, Walter. Ladies and gentlemen, this brings us to the end of our Q&A for the 2026 BMW Group Annual Conference Analyst and Investor Call. Thank you all for making the time to join us here today, and we wish you a great rest of your day. Thank you.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2026 BMW Group Annual Conference Analyst and Investor Call. My name is Stefan Richmann. I'm the Head of Treasury and Investor Relations at the BMW Group. It is my pleasure to host today's Investor and Analyst Q&A with Oliver and Walter.

As Oliver mentioned earlier, we continue to leverage our global business model and the advantages of our technology-neutral strategy, meeting demand for both combustion engine vehicles and electrified vehicles. With the successful rollout of the Neue Klasse iX3, we have kicked off a major product offensive that will provide the BMW brand with crucial momentum for the future.

Walter has shared with you how we have navigated 2025 and delivered on major KPIs in our operational business despite the tariff impacts, developments on currency markets and the intense market situation in China. Disciplined and consistent cost reduction underpinned our performance. We have also provided comprehensive and reliable guidance for 2026, factoring in all known and decided aspects against an uncertain geopolitical backdrop and tariffs.

With that, I will turn the floor over to you, and we are happy to take your questions.

Our first caller will be Patrick Hummel from UBS. Patrick, I can see you on the screen. Welcome this morning, and please, the stage is yours.

So Oliver, first of all, your tenure is coming to an end soon. And you've not been shy to be anti-consensual on many of the key topics that we have discussed with you over the years. But your way of doing things or the BMW way of doing things has worked out pretty well compared to competition. So I'm curious when you soon hand over to Milan, what's actually your high-level advice to him? And what have been your key learnings over your tenure that you think are going to be most valuable for your successor and the entire company in the future?

And the second one for Walter. I have to dive a little bit deeper into the 2026 guidance, if you don't mind. You take certain assumptions for tariffs that some people this morning called quite optimistic, such as the EU lowering the tariff to 0 later in the year, also some sort of USMCA agreement that would improve the current situation. So to better understand and quantify what you've baked in versus the status quo, can you just give us the 105 basis points of tariff impact alternatively, what would be the right number in a no-deal scenario? Would it be 175 basis points, 150, whatever, that would be helpful. And if you don't mind elaborating a little bit on the other key building blocks in the EBIT bridge for 2026, the usual volume, price mix, costs, D&A, all of these?

Thank you very much, Patrick, for your questions and also for being so kind to directly allocating them to Oliver and Walter. That, of course, makes my job easier. So first, the question to Oliver from your side with regards to his tenure as it comes to an end after more than 3 decades with the BMW Group and regarding high-level advice for Milan. Over to you, Oliver.

Patrick, I regard being anti-consensual as a complement. We are living in a competitive environment and to be consensual is probably the first mistake you're about to do if you want to compete in a pretty high-level competition in our industry. What drives us, if I give one word to what we -- it's not me, it's we, including Milan, of course, what we have been doing for the past years is to become anti-fragile, if I might use that word. And anti-fragile means we are profiting from a highly volatile world. And there are 3 components to it, and we built on that competitive strength for the past 10 years.

To be a global company helps you. Like you have seen, we have been shrinking in China, but we have overcompensated with growth in Europe and rest of the world and the United States. To be technology neutral or technology open, however you want to phrase that, helps you to quickly respond to market needs and requirements. And you have very fast-growing electrifying countries and you have countries who hit the brakes. And to assume that would never be the case is the first mistake you do. This is a highly fluctuating world. And under the assumption, which every year holds true, the number of cars being sold in the world as new cars is increasing, not decreasing. So the world market is there.

And the third component is, of course, that you are -- that you offer cars in all segments with all drivetrains. So it starts with the MINI, then goes over to the lower segments at BMW all the way up to 7 Series and now very soon ALPINA plus Rolls-Royce, of course.

So all these 3 elements built an entire fragile environment. And then all you have to do, you have to train your muscle to react quickly. And that is what we have done through all supply chain crisis. We might have had corona crisis, energy, whatever you call crisis, it helps you to train that muscle of maximum flexibility.

In Milan, you won't even -- probably you won't even feel that there is a change in top leadership because he has been with us all along, and there's good reason that he becomes my successor. So individual people do not make a big difference in our strategy because our strategy is built up of a close negotiation and devising a strategy with top leadership and top leadership at BMW is 65 vice presidents and 7 Board members. It's not -- and it's not -- therefore, not a top-down issue. So there will be some very, very stable elements in our strategy.

Thank you very much, Oliver. And now turning to your second question, Patrick. It was about the 2026 guidance and providing some additional detail, specifically on tariff assumptions, and you were asking about individual building blocks within the EBIT bridge. And for that, of course, I would like to hand over to you, Walter.

Patrick. So first, I thank you with respect to the tariffs assumption. Why is that? Because everyone is raising this question, of course. So eventually, we start with 2025, first of all, to have a base. In 2025, we had a lot of ups and downs. You remember, in Q1, we had more or less 3/4 of an EBIT margin hit because of China cars coming into Europe, and we started with the U.S. then in Q2, then we had 2.0% in Q2 and 1.75 percentage EBIT hit in Q3 as well as in Q4. And you do know, I'm not specifying it, whether it is 1.4%, and I will still speak about 1.5% or whether it's 1.6%, I would also classify it as 1.5%. So there is a variance in already.

Now going forward, we assume and we wrote about it on Page 263 for everyone in this call, it's Page 263 on the tariffs. It's about in the second half year, we assume that we are -- we will see changes to the better. We assume EU and the U.S. will come to the final agreement, and we still assume it is nil from the second half year onwards, meaning July, whatever July really means then. And ultimately, we also assume that there will be a better negotiation between the U.S. with Mexico and Canada and some other countries. And with that, we assume that we are not having a 1 [indiscernible] quarter burden in the first half year, but lower. And overall, in the year '26, we shall see [ 1 in 1 ] quarter, 1.25 EBIT points burden in the EBIT margin. It's not on top. It is instead of the 1.5% EBIT burden in 2025. So instead, not on top. I think that's the key element number one.

And then you asked for some further details, which we wrote on Page 264 for everyone. I'm happy to highlight these once again. So we are working on all cost elements. Whether we speak about CapEx, we will reduce CapEx. We will reduce also R&D further on the German commercial law side. And we will reduce also the fixed cost, that means sales and general cost, SG&A. So on all elements. But we shouldn't forget about the depreciation, which we see based on the start of the Neue Klasse. You saw some already in Q4, but just a bit. And with the restart of production, we see, of course, the depreciation starting across the year. And with that, there's a burden.

And on top of that, with the start of the Neue Klasse, you remember that our activation on development costs is finished 6 months after start of production. And we focused heavily on all elements of the Neue Klasse, all our tech clusters are getting activated and 6 months after start, not anymore. Hence, our activation ratio is going down in the second half year latest, but you shall see already some elements in the first half year.

Ending before the next question is coming, that we assume an activation ratio, a capitalization ratio of R&D costs of around 30%. You saw that in '25, we had 41% capitalization ratio of R&D, and we assume it is around 30%. That gives you also a burden on top of that. And of course, we also wrote about the product measures we described and discussed even in China. On the other side, I have to say, currently, in the first 2 months, we see transaction price stabilization even to the better. So that works out all these product measures we did starting in November and now one month after the other, we are shifting something behind. And also the dealer network is stabilizing themselves. So that should help a bit at least.

Now if you take all these elements together, still the headwind is bigger than the tailwind, which we're working on. And that ended up in the assumption that we'd rather guide for the segment Automobile 4% to 6% instead of 5% to 7% last year. And with that burden, we come also to the conclusion for the group that we have a moderate decline. A moderate decline is between 10% and 15% minus the previous years, which I think I would like to underpin last year was a very good group profit of the year as guided, and we are better than EUR 10 billion profit. So that is a very high position to start with in this current environment, especially if I look around some others. Hope that helps, Patrick.

Thank you very much, Walter, for this detailed explanation. We have the next caller up, and I hope we will see him on screen in just a second. That will be right here we see, Jose Asumendi from JPMorgan.

Two questions, please. Oliver, I would love to hear your thoughts, please. When you look at the Chinese market over the next, let's say, 3 years, what do you think are the biggest challenges BMW will have to confront in the region? And then looking back then at the work you've done in the last 3, 5 years, how are you leaving the group in terms of the manufacturing and the product offensive to be able to compete and obviously take further market share?

And then Walter, I'd love to also get some thoughts, please. What drives the lower end and the upper end of the margin range? You provided already a very detailed reply to this, but a bit more thoughts as to the lower end and the upper end of the margin range for the Automotive division and whether we should expect some -- potentially some pricing relief in 2026 in China as, hopefully, you will have to support less the dealers in China in '26 in comparison to 2025.

Thank you very much for your three questions, Jose. And the first two, I will then hand on to Oliver. The third one, obviously, to Walter. First question being from your side, what is our expectation on the Chinese market over the next 3 years, whether we see any big challenges and what are those? Oliver, please go ahead.

When you look at the Chinese market, then the first thing you must recognize, this is by far the largest car market in the world. And all along, it was clear the largest car market in the world will be highly competitive, highly innovative and of course, dominated by the largest local players. So what happened and is still happening in this market is not a surprise. It's normalizing. So when you say normalizing, that means there is competition in a saturated market like we have in Europe and the United States.

To survive in such an environment of saturated market, of course, you have to safeguard your profitability. And you cannot expect that you have higher profitability as somewhere else in the world, which is not a big disaster and not a surprise. Now with the Neue Klasse coming up, and we already received very high resonance from the Neue Klasse, the iX3, which will also be available very soon in the Chinese market in the long version. The feedbacks we get are as positive as we have them here in Europe. There is no difference, underlining that we are highly competitive.

Why are we highly competitive? The car in China is very much made in China for China. We are collaborating, of course, with local supply chains. We are collaborating with leading China tech players like Alibaba, Huawei, Momenta. We have a local production at the Shenyang plant, and we will present the car at the Beijing Auto Show next month.

So this car is underlining exactly what the next 3 years, and that is your question, what is important in China? High local content, super innovative and highly competitive. And all 3 elements is inside the iX3 for the Chinese market. So there is a very positive outlook. And as we said before, this is not a car, this is a technology platform with technology clusters. And all cars which are being launched after that, for example, the local X5 will bear all these technologies. So we have a positive outlook into that market, especially with the launch of the car. And the main fundament, if you want to compete in the Chinese market in the future, the Chinese content will be ever higher, and that's exactly what we do.

Thank you, Oliver, for this look into the future regarding the Chinese market. And following up with Jose's second question, what have we done in the last 3 to 5 years, specifically with regards to manufacturing and our product offensive?

I mean what you see in our production and product, that always comes together kind of -- production comes from product. And what we see with all these technology clusters, which you will see in more than 40 cars until end of 2027, you will see exactly the same thing in the production areas. And you will see that in productivity, the throughput with AI applications, as high in the manufacturing area as it's in the product area and which help -- will increase productivity as well as the quality and the output of the cars.

So new technologies are at the forefront of BMW. And this process of optimization will never end. There's never an end. Every year, we have pretty tough targets for productivity improvement. So every year, this production system becomes more expensive. And there's a good reason why Milan becomes my successor because he has done that very, very successfully in the manufacturing area. And of course, you will see that at the end, you will see it bottom line. And production is well on track worldwide. The Munich plant here in Munich will start very soon with the i3. It has been completely rebuilt.

In Spartanburg, the new X5 starts very soon and next year, the new X7. In Leipzig and Regensburg, they're both working 3 shifts because of the high demand for the cars in these factories. And the new plant in Debrecen also works well. So all plants are full speed ahead for the product offensive we are undertaking now.

Thank you very much, Oliver. And now moving to Jose's third question. I would like to pass that on to Walter. And I think it goes pretty well hand-in-hand with Patrick's question on guidance 2026. So Jose is asking how the lower and the upper end of the margin corridor in the Auto segment could be driven. Walter, over to you.

Yes. Well, a corridor is a corridor, right? So that's the reason why it's 4% to 6%. And of course, as we are in the beginning of this year, everything could happen. As we remember in '25, 12 months ago, over the course of following 8 to 9 months, also a lot of things have changed on the cost side, on the pricing side, across the geopolitics and the regions. So luckily, we are a global player. And hence, in '25, we have been able to shift margins also between China with the success, especially in Europe and the U.S. And you can only do that as a global player, and we're happy to do that.

Other than that, of course, it's about pricing, it's about cost targets, how we achieve them. And I think in '25, we saw that we executed very good in my eyes. And of course, it's about the tariffs, whether our assumptions are right or not. On the other side, there's always risk and there's always a chance. And we try to organize them from a portfolio aspect and we managed that one in the same year this year as we did it last year.

And usually, you see that driving cost down is always a good thing because that is in our own hand. All the rest, we have to organize flexibly with the markets on the pricing side. But so far, I think 4% to 6% is a very good prediction and guidance.

Thank you very much, Walter, for this answer. And we will now move on to the next caller. We should be seeing Tim Rokossa from Deutsche Bank, and we see him right here already on screen. Tim, the stage is yours. Please go ahead with your questions. Tim, we are not hearing you, and I'm wondering whether there's technically on our side or whether it is on yours.

Sorry, I was not unmuted by the host yet.

I can't believe how happy I am that it was on your side.

I have 2.5 questions, please. The first one goes to you, Oliver. When we think about the support from the EU, it feels like the regulator has finally understood how important this industry is and wants to help, but whatever they come out with seems oddly complex and difficult and probably beyond the point. I wrote for Oliver Blume yesterday, and obviously, there was also a lot of investor questions about what he thinks the industry or the EU should do for the industry, some very specific points about EU made BEVs, for example, getting support for them. Do you feel like the EU has finally understood that they need to help this industry and want to help them? And what would be your view of what they should do to do that?

And then secondly, Stefan, I'm allocating the questions here as well, but obviously, please feel free to reallocate them. When we think about China, maybe Walter here, what do you say to people that just feel like they have a bit of a deja vu moment at this point in time compared to last year, where you also were very optimistic on the Chinese development. You also guided for some improvements from what we see right now. I understand that transaction prices have stabilized, but it still really feels like something that might be a bit awakening in the summer.

And the final point probably also to you, Walter, why do you decide to bake in the tariff easing in the rest of the year? When we look at someone like Daimler Truck this morning, for example, they don't. I think there's reasons to believe that you should rather show what is the reality today rather than taking a view on when this would be signed.

Thank you very much for your questions, Tim. The first one will be going to Oliver, the other two then obviously, to Walter. And the first one with regards to the EU, support from the EU, has the regulator really understood. Oliver, over to you. And since the question already came up this morning in media, maybe the concise brief version on that question.

I try to make it brief. Tim, it's great that you're participating. You seem to be part of the inventory of this meeting. I cannot remember the last year that you have not been here. So good morning to you specifically. I will try to make it very short. Very clearly, the EU is making things not complicated. Complicated is not the problem. We can control complexity. That's not the problem. But they're working against the industry. In the news proposal, which came out in December, they tried to put even more topics in where markets are restrained from developing themselves.

One portion is, yes, they go from 100% to 90% CO2. But how to achieve that? In the small print, it actually works against technology openness. The second element, and that was not in the legislation before, they try to put European content in such a way that export models and the German car industry is very much export orientated is neglected. So all the European content, which comes out of export is simply not taken into account, which is a very dangerous thing, I think, because this creates a lot of job and a lot of value. And to only favor smaller cars, which are [ 4.20 meters ] longer, you can do that. We don't mind giving incentives. But how it's written, it creates 2 classes of cars. And that, of course, reduces the competitiveness of the whole industry.

So the small print behind it is still very much technology unopen, too much focus on electric-only and not enough focus on real CO2 reduction. And I end with the question, what happens to a regulation where the markets will -- in the electric arena also with our products grows to 50% market share and then it stalls. If that regulation is implemented and that is happening in the market, you will shrink this industry. And I think this is a dangerous path to go to. And with that, I stop. I was supposed to be short. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Oliver, but I think the message came across. A second question over to you, Walter, was with regards to the guidance 2026, our provision on the Chinese market, its development, whether it might be too optimistic. Please, over to you.

Too optimistic. We rather like risks to incorporate them as Chairman, don't we? No, we do not. We have to see chances and risks. And with respect to China, if you really compare the last 6 months and you see month after month or you eventually rather quarter-by-quarter, you will see that the dealer network and all these measures we have taken in place are starting to get more grasp and starting to be more effective and stabilizing the dealer network. That's the first of all, because in the Chinese environment on all dealers, not just BMW, the whole industry, there's still a lot of irritation, let's say, with all these new rules also come in place, right? That price has to be finally over cost, which I really appreciate from SAMR, the new rules, which they also double check. So I'm really highly appreciating those.

So that's already a positive sign with respect to the transaction price. And we see that in December, in January, in February, and they are stabilizing and even rising. So they are becoming better, positive for us. Second, we also did a lot of product measures. In November, we started the first tranche. In February, the second one and the next one will come. So we are enhancing product attractivity and increasing transaction prices for those products, and it works.

And the third one, which is, well, take it optimistic or realistic, whatever, if you see the run rate of our sales in China, if it moves on like that, we can achieve previous year. Of course, if everything is crashing, then we have a different scenario, but our run rate is stable. And don't mix up the Chinese New Year. There's always a difference between January and February that has always to be a year-to-date February number. Otherwise, you would fail yourself.

So taking all this into consideration, we see the chance and we wrote in our guideline -- guidance that we can achieve previous year. We didn't say that we want to achieve the previous year. Of course, we also aim for profitable growth and stabilization, always the thing. But given all the facts and given what we did in the network, we can achieve previous year. Even if you compare the numbers year-to-date February, once you saw them already from CAAM, you see that we are still on a very good track compared with all other competitors, whether they are Chinese or traditional ones.

From that perspective, I still think what we wrote is absolutely spot on and correct. And with respect to the tariffs, why I am baking them in already. Well, I think we have to mention that, one, what our assumption is, plus 1/4 of an EBIT margin, yes, that is also a lot of money, but we will also find some assumptions and some measures in order to compensate should we fail in our assumption. And you saw that last year. 12 months ago, we've been the only ones mentioning that we bake in 1% extra cost for tariffs. And ultimately, they have become 1.5%. And we found measures to try to compensate this 0.5% point. So now we speak about a difference of 0.25%, and we still have 9.5 months to go. On the other side, we really hope that tariffs will be lowered across the world because free trade would be best for everyone. So that is also a communication from us to everyone. I hope that helps.

Great. Thank you very much, Walter, for your answers. Thank you, Tim. We now have next up in line Horst Schneider from Bank of America.

I have got 2, 3 questions, please. The first one is regarding cost versus volumes. What I have got to say is what is really outstanding, Oliver also, what you have achieved over your tenure is basically the level of cost cutting without announcing big major programs and layoffs. Also for 2026, my impression is that a large part of the stability you aim for come from lower costs. That, of course, then raises for me the question, what comes after 2026? And here, I refer more to the midterm guidance. Is now the cost-cutting potential basically exploited after 2026 and needs the margin growth from 2027 onwards to come more from volume growth. And with that, the question would be, do you expect the premium market to grow again? Or do you expect to gain market share?

You said today in the media call, Oliver, that you expect not to lose market share to the Chinese OEMs in Europe, I share with you, but you aim to take market share from Chinese OEMs in China or you take more market share from legacy OEMs from your traditional peers as of '27. So what is the trade-off between volume and cost regarding the midterm guidance?

The second question that I have is regarding EVs. I was surprised about this great contribution and reconciliation in Q4. So Walter, maybe a question for you since now I think BEV leasing in the U.S. is structurally lower in '26. We're going to see this tailwind throughout '26 that this is a major part basically for the group earnings. And maybe you can remind us how you treat EV residual values in your portfolio? You constantly write down or you write down basically at the end of the contract period, what is now the share of EVs in your leasing portfolio?

Thank you very much for your questions, Horst. And of course, it needs to be pointed out. I didn't notice that as first that you're wearing the right apparel for this call. That's very much appreciated. Thank you for that. And first question then obviously goes to Oliver. You asked about the trade-off between cost and volumes. First of all, the price, how we've handled that in the recent past, but also a midterm guidance and how do we expect the premium market to grow and whether we intend to gain market share also in the Chinese market, but specifically in Europe from Chinese competitors? Oliver, over to you, please.

On the fixed cost side, not on the market, we made substantial progress last year. And we are of the opinion, this is a continuous management task. And you see that -- if you look at our figures, you can see that. We are against programs. We are against publicly announced programs because that kind of reduces the responsibility of management to take that task very seriously. So we don't talk about it. We try to really do it whenever it's necessary. And of course, these things come in waves. There are years where it's easier, where yes, but we every year become more efficient all the way also started last year already with the help of AI.

On the market side, the question is wrongly asked, cost versus volume. I know that people love to have that orientation to say, which way should they go. But it's the wrong question because good contribution margin is the sum of both. And flexibility is the most important thing. If an opportunity arises to create positive or super positive contribution margin, you quickly have to react. So flexibility to quickly add is 10x more important than to say we push volume or we only concentrate on the upper segment. It's the completely wrong question because that is a result and not a target.

So I will never let people ask you what do we want that, we want good contribution margins. And then, of course, these opportunities with quickly changing markets. The core question is how quickly can we get into all these little niches where opportunity arises. And the good thing is the opportunities change currently very much. That means it's not important that you have a strategy to be in that market that you have the flexibility to react very quickly, and that is what we call anti-fragile that we have in all segments, all drivetrains, we can always very swiftly react, and we are after contribution margin and not after cost or after volume in the first place. Thank you.

Thank you, Oliver. Horst, your second question was on EVs, specifically BEV leasing situation in the U.S. and whether it constitutes a tailwind for 2026 and also the handling of leasing contracts with regards to depreciation and the share of EVs in our leasing portfolio overall and all of these topics at once, I would like to hand over to you, Walter.

All in one. Well, let me start with [ BEV ]. In different markets, we have different penetration ratios. And the U.S. has one of the highest leasing penetration ratios, not to forget alone, there is also a loan business there. With respect to BEV leasing, because of IRA and the subsidies more or less coming from the government, leasing was the one and only for BEVs because on loan, you wouldn't have received anything. And that was a very high share. Now with the stop of IRA subsidies from October 1 onwards, that had an impact in the U.S., of course, on BEV sales and on top of that, into our leasing portfolio. So in Q4, leasing penetration came down in the U.S. And with that, you have, of course, effects on the elimination part, which I guess you also raised coincidentally the question. Hence, there was a different impact in our segment consolidation because that is always the contra of the auto business.

You do know elimination is mainly for financial services business. So auto sold the car and in the group, nothing happened. So I have to take it out, means minus. If there is less financial services business, there is less minus, and it could appear as positive amount, right? That happened in Q4 dedicatedly. Now you also raised the question with respect to how we treat residual values. Well, we always treat it linked at the start of the contract, thinking about where is the residual value in 36 months if it is a 36-month contract, of course, also 48, 30, you name it. But always once the customer is signing it, we see every quarter, of course, we are doing our total portfolio revaluation, and we do know which prices we have been capable to achieve for the off-lease cars.

So that's our prediction model. It's not that easy explained. It's a bit more complex, a lot of math. But that means if you depreciate a car already higher or lower during the course of the contract is already the first topic, right? How big is the depreciation during the contract time. Second, on top of that, with the revaluation, we double check whether we have to adjust across the portfolio. That's what we also do. And that is a permanent approach. Every quarter, we are doing that. And this is ending up in our balance sheet. If you have a look for our residual value provisions, that's the second part.

The first part, you can't see because that's our leased out products, you just depreciate. You don't know whether we depreciate it on a straight high level or on a low level. Sorry, I'm not sharing this information. But you see this on top provision. And that is how we deal with that. And that is how we organized with shrinking used car prices since we had this top prices in '22 and '23. That's why we speak about lower residual value profits than we had previous years because we see that it comes down gradually step by step. But it's still positive, but less positive than previous year. And even this effect, you see in 3 segments, you see it in Auto, you see it in Financial Services and you see as a contra in consolidation. That's how we deal with the Financial Services lease business, especially.

I hope that helps.

Reconciliation is going to be a positive contribution in 2026, significant positive contribution, right?

Whatever you classify as significant, but we can assume if we have less leases in the U.S., you will have less negative consolidations that way around. But of course, don't forget, we are not just dealing with leases in the U.S., we have it across the world. U.K. is getting the iX3, for example, now in Europe already. Leases are going there. So there might be contrast might be different. But yes, you're right.

Thank you very much, Walter. Maybe just a quick statement on how we are proceeding so far. We have obviously quite some interest in our figures and the guidance 2026. For the next callers coming up, and we still have several in line, I kindly ask you to limit yourselves to one question each. We have already answered quite a significant amount of topics, and we surely have covered a lot of issues already. So therefore, please limit yourself to one question.

Next one up, and we should see him on screen rather soon. There he is Mike Tyndall from HSBC.

I'll stick to one question then. Just one for Walter, please. If I look at the profits from BBAC, we were at around EUR 270 million in '25, down from about EUR 1.4 billion in the prior year. When you talk about China achieving the same sort of number for this year, can you just unpick the difference there? How much of that was one-off? And therefore, how much of a recovery is likely in that profitability of BBAC in 2026?

Question goes to you, Walter, regarding profit from BBA in 2025 and an outlook for 2026 with regards to potential one-off effect in 2025 that may have an effect in 2026. Over to you.

Right. Mike. So I hope you have a look for the right disclosure in our 432 page. You see 2 elements where you can see BBA numbers. One is the group consolidated one. There you end up with EUR 227 million, but that is after BBA, after OCIs. So that is a rather consolidated view. In the disclosure where we present all the shares we have on every legal entity, you see the legal entity view. And there, you see more than just EUR 227 million, rather EUR 1.2 billion. So I hope you see the right disclosure.

Now with respect to '25 versus '26, all measures in place. We did already a lot of fixed cost cuts in '25 to stabilize the situation. And we have given also a lot of cost targets on the manufacturing cost side, on fixed cost side, which they are driving forward positively. So we assume that we are running more or less stable year-on-year '25, '26 with our assumption that they hit the cost targets and they've organized also the price targets they have. And I'm so far positive, at least with the 2 first months I saw.

Good. Thank you very much, Walter. And we have the next one in line, and we will probably not see him, but only hear him if I understand that correctly. So there we see you, Stephen, very good. So Stephen Reitman from Bernstein.

First of all, again, congratulations, Oliver. I mean, it's been obviously an incredible environment you had to deal with since 2019 and which you've done gracefully, and I think to great effect for BMW. My question actually is for Walter and it's about the cash flow. At the Q3 stage, part of the reason for the reduction in the cash flow guidance last year was the timing mismatch that the refund you were expecting were not going to occur on tariffs in 2025, so it's going to come in '26. So my question really is about the guidance on the cash flow for 2026. How much of that includes the expected refunds you're getting from the U.S. Treasury for the tariff -- for the refunds on tariffs? And can you just generally talk about where you see sort of the refunds from tariffs going forward really?

Thank you very much, Stephen, for your question. Concerning cash flow and focusing on cash flow only. Question being, coming out of the Q3 statement that we made, we had a clear statement there that a reduction of our cash flow expectation for 2025 came out of a postponed tariff refund and whether that now and to what extent it has an impact on the 2026 guidance. And with that, I hand it over to you, Walter. Please go ahead.

Stephen, well, we had to reassess our receivables expected in November as, for example, Europe didn't come in place, and I can't put receivables against the EU at the current stage based on which contracts. So I had to reduce that one, first of all. And hence, I would rather speak about receivables of a mid-3-digit million number rather than this high level. And secondly, also with respect to the U.S. authorities, we have to say that we see in terms of our volumes, in terms of process complexities and also sometimes also effects as a result of shutdowns, numbers came up and down. But ultimately, we are running on.

I can say that with respect to the 3.75% discount, we handed into the authorities our claim for April '25 to March '26 already. That is not finally confirmed yet by the authorities, but we handed the claims in already. With respect to this procedure, we assume that we are not getting cash back, but we rather can run more or less our tariffs to be paid as a discount of that one. That's more or less the assumption so that we just pay net rather than getting a gross number to us and the other ones paid by us. That is our current assumption and understanding with the U.S. authorities with respect to going forward. I hope that helps.

Thank you very much, Walter. We have run over the official time already, but we will continue with just one question each. I believe we still have 3 callers in line. First one already on the screen right now, Christian, Christian Frenes from Goldman Sachs.

Also for my part, Oliver, thank you and congratulations on your stewardship of the BMW through what has been a really volatile environment from 2019 to 2026. I think the execution has been really impressive and underlines your flexibility strategy. My question is really on TNR, The New Retail strategy. And my question for you, Oliver, would be, what are your thoughts on the strategic importance of shifting to TNR? Why is it so important? And perhaps as part of the same question, just the financial impact of shifting the BMW brand in 2026 to TNR, should there be any financial impact that we should expect? Maybe the last one is a little bit for Walter, but...

Thank you very much, Christian, for your question. Concerning TNR. I will just briefly say the abbreviation stands for The New Retail, which is in Europe, our sales model change to direct sales. And you were asking with regards to its strategic importance for the BMW Group and also financial impact, I would indeed give the question on strategic importance and relevance to you, Oliver, and then an expectation with regards to when BMW will be shifting to TNR and the potential financial impact, Walter will be handing that to you. So Oliver, please start.

TNR, The New Retail, is based on 3 assumptions. First of all, we are in the business of individual mobility. That means each car we sell is owned by an individual with very specific needs. That's the first assumption. And I think you would not -- you would agree that this is a valid assumption. The second assumption is the future of understanding our customers is largely based on AI competence. To know what he has owned in the past, what his lifestyle is, what his expectations are, to make him very individual offers for other products is a central function. And the third one is we are already half down the road because we installed TNR in our European operation of MINI and our learning experiences are quite positive.

We're not in a rush to implement that, but we are almost 80% through with the preparation of the IT systems. So it doesn't come at one single point. I think there is no way back. We will introduce that step by step because individual mobility will be closely linked to understanding the customer individually. And that is something you can only do as a retailer and not as a wholesaler. Does that mean that we don't need partners? No, it's exactly the other way around. We need dealers, partners, entrepreneurs just as before, but we need central intelligence of understanding the customer. So strategically, we are unwavering. Are we in a rush? No, we do it step by step just like we have done it with MINI. We introduced it in the first countries in 2022. We're now in 2026. So we will take our time, but there is no way back.

Thank you, Oliver. And Walter, over to you with regards to financial implication.

Well, with respect to the financial implication, it's a positive aspect because we create price stability online and offline. There is no haggling around the pricing from dealer A to dealer B to dealer C and the customer is just playing the game. So there is stability for everyone. And not to forget, people are starting to change their habits, not running on Google search machines anymore and on our homepages. They run ChatGPTs and cloud, whatever. And that will search for pricing.

Currently, under MSRP under wholesale system, we [ cannot ] advise MSRPs. But ultimately, we deal with independent dealers and the independent dealer is setting their price. Now we have a mixture of offers by different OEMs. Some are already on direct sales. So they have the transaction price on the list. And others like us on BMW side, we are running in wholesale, meaning on our homepage is the MSRP and not the transaction price.

Now if ChatGPT or cloud or whatever machine is searching for the best price and best offer, surely, the one who is organizing and presenting the real transaction price is better off than the other. So that is why Oliver Zipse also mentioned, we will run into this direction automatically because that will be the advantage and to get the same price in the country rather than different ones. And from our point of view, we also have done a better chance for upsell procedures online and offline because we can present the products rather than having the discussion at the dealer side about the pure price. It's about the products and all features in it.

And finally, the last positive topic on financial impact is stock management because we can do it centrally, like Oliver mentioned, rather than having a dealer individual stock management. And usually, in total, you will have always too much stock in the pipeline, and that creates price pressure again. So once we do it on a central stock management, we do know in which areas and regions we run which cars and sell which cars, we can optimize that one as well, and that saves again further costs. That is our position. So we are looking forward to implement that also for BMW in Europe.

Thank you, Walter, and thank you, Christian, for this very important question. We're now coming to the second to last in line, and we have him on screen already. Stuart Pearson, Oxcap Analytics.

Just quickly, Walter, just to clarify, did I hear correctly, apologies if I missed it, but based on what you're seeing year-to-date in China, you think profitability there could be flat this year. I wasn't sure if that's what you were trying to say or if you just meant more on volume terms. But my main question was just on mix because you're coming out of a period, I guess, that's been relatively strong in that respect. Obviously, you have the X5 changeover this year, which in previous incarnations would have created some volatility.

I think it was down 20% volume-wise in 2018. But it sounds like -- I think you said you're running 3 shifts there already. It sounds like maybe this time there will be minimal disruption from there. So I wonder what you expect from mix for the full year, but also in Q1? And is it right to assume that with some mix disruption, I think you mentioned FX would be tougher in Q1 and tariffs as well that Q1 would be one of the weaker quarters of the year.

Thank you, Stuart. And if you don't mind, I would briefly comment on the first question since we do not guide individually per region. I will leave that up to Walter whether he wants to start guiding on regions now, but that would be my answer at least. And the second one then with regarding to mix, especially with the X5 changeover, Walter, I hand that over to you.

Yes. Stuart, so absolutely right. We are not doing country-specific guidance. But the discussion you're referring to was with respect to the legal entity BBA, where I helped Mike to find the right number in our disclosure. So that was the number. And further on, I elaborated that they also have their fixed cost targets and material cost targets and price targets, and that was the [ story long ].

Now with respect to the effects expectations on full year Q1, the expectation on full year is that we are ending up with 4% to 6% in this corridor with segment Automobile, of course. And yes, we also mentioned already in Q3 that we are facing an FX headwind in the first half year and especially in Q1. And why is that? Exchange rates deteriorated, especially end of Q2 '25. That's why we had this big exchange rate effect in the second half year of '25. If everything stays stable, that will move over into the first half year of '26 with an exchange rate burden. And I said rather in Q1. Why is that? Because in Q2, the deterioration started already.

Now coming to your strong X5 changeover. We have a good mix. Don't forget that the Neue Klasse starts to kick in, in the second half year, and X5 is still on a very good sale mode and it's not stopping in whenever during this year. So that's quite positive.

Thank you, Walter. And we're just about to end, but we still have Henning Cosman from Barclays joining us.

I'll try and be brief. So I'll save my congratulations to Oliver for the Q1 call. My question is on total shareholder return. I'm surprised it hasn't come up yet. So it's probably to Walter. So as a combination of dividend and share buyback, of course, would you say it's fair to assume the moderate decline to your group EBT guidance as a proxy to net profit and ultimately dividend payment as well and draw conclusions to the dividend component of TSR. And then on the share buyback, I suppose if you were to conclude the remainder of the existing envelope, that could be up to EUR 1.3 billion or so. But between the two would imply below EUR 4 billion.

And separately, I think unlike last year, you also haven't said explicitly at least that the shareholder return could exceed the Automotive free cash flow. So I was just wondering if you could help us a little bit with the potential magnitude of TSR. Could it exceed the Automotive free cash flow this year? Again, are you prepared to comment on that at this stage? Any more color would be great, I think.

Thank you for your question, Henning. Concerning total shareholder return, some assumptions on your side, whether our current guidance gives an indication with regards to net profit and potentially dividend payments for the year 2026. And also as we already stated for the year 2025, whether we would be willing to exceed the available Automotive cash flow in order to follow up with shareholder return payments. And I would hand that question, of course, over to you, Walter, with regards to 2026.

Henning, so in principle, our framework hasn't changed, right? Our framework is 30% to 40% and share buyback. And usually, we also limit that with free cash flow. And as an exception, last year in '25, we said exclusive to free cash flow situation. And that's what we did. So ultimately, in '25, you shall see with our proposed dividend, which has to run through the Annual General Meeting, of course, plus share buyback, we would have achieved EUR 4 billion cash out, and we have achieved an out of free cash flow of EUR 3.2 billion. So we can do statements that we are overrunning the Automotive free cash flow.

Usually, I would see that as an exception. But between 30% and 40%, there's a lot of room for maneuver. The suggestion we do to the Annual General Meeting is 36.6% payout. So there is still room for 40% whatever we discuss. And I think that is a discussion for in 11 months rather than now. We just can highlight that we're sticking to our rules and the share buyback we are running currently. The second tranche is going to be ending by August. And we also mentioned that we earmarked already the third tranche. So share buybacks are moving on. I think that is all I can say to this topic currently.

Thank you very much, Walter. Ladies and gentlemen, this brings us to the end of our Q&A for the 2026 BMW Group Annual Conference, Analyst and Investor Call. Thank you all for making the time to join us here today, and we wish you a great rest of your day. Thank you.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 2025 was, in many ways, a remarkable year for the BMW Group and above all, one that set our course for the future. First, we achieved a solid financial result with group earnings of more than EUR 10 billion. Walter Mertl will provide more detail in just a moment.

Second, we grew in 2025, selling more vehicles than the previous year and expanding our leadership of the global premium segment. And third, our technology open strategy continued to demonstrate its strength. Demand for cars with combustion engines remained stable, while sales of our all-electric and electrified vehicles continue to grow.

And fourth, once again, through our own efforts, we significantly outperformed the EU's CO2 fleet targets for 2025. And finally, we successfully began the rollout of our NEUE KLASSE with the BMW iX3, giving the BMW brand and the entire company crucial momentum for the future. And all of this shows we deliver consistently and continuously. We have set the right course in recent years and do not need to change our strategic direction. In this way, we can keep the company on track for long-term success.

Standing here beside me is the new BMW iX3. This vehicle marks a pivotal moment in the BMW Group's recent history, the serious launch of our NEUE KLASSE. Production of the iX3 has successfully ramped up at our new plant in Debrecen in Hungary.

First customers have already received the vehicles. And since last week, the iX3 has been in European showrooms. Demand for the iX3 is significantly exceeding our expectations with strong orders from both private and fleet customers. And we are also attracting many new customers who have never driven a BMW before.

Our order books for the iX3 are full and reach well into this year. We are exploiting the flexibility of our production and supplier network and increasing capacity in line with demand. The NEUE KLASSE represents a huge investment. Only a company that enjoys long-term economic success like the BMW Group can invest in its future on such a massive scale. This success is built on 3 important parameters. I'd like to call this the BMW Group's strategic triangle.

First, our balanced global positioning in sales and production; second, our attractive product lineup across all brands serving the entire premium segment; and third, our consistent strategic focus on technology openness. I will talk about the last 2 points in the second part of my remarks after Walter Mertl has spoken.

In 2025, we delivered around 2.46 million vehicles to customers worldwide, representing sales growth of 0.5% compared to the previous year. And this shows that our business model is robust and resilient. In Europe, we increased our sales by more than 7%, delivering more than 1 million vehicles to customers in Europe for the first time since before COVID.

We also made significant gains in the United States of America with growth of 5% even in a saturated market. In our markets outside the main sales regions of Europe, the United States and China, we also posted growth despite the overall downward trend with an increase of 3.4% over the previous year.

China remains our largest single market. However, due to the intense competitive market environment, our sales development fell short of our expectations for the year. And thanks to the strong overall performance in 3 of our 4 sales regions, we nevertheless achieved growth worldwide. And this confirms the strength of our global footprint.

Our worldwide presence is a decisive competitive advantage. And all BMW Group brands contributed to this result. Electrified models across all brands as well as the models from BMW M were the main growth drivers. The BMW brand once again maintained its position as the global #1 in its segment.

Demand was particularly strong for core models like the X1, the X3 and the X5 as well as our 3 Series and 5 Series models. BMW M continued its success story in impressive style in 2025, increasing its sales for the 14th consecutive year with more than 213,000 vehicles delivered to customers M reached a historic all-time high.

The BMW M5 and M5 Touring and the X3 M50 were the main drivers of this success. This provides compelling proof of the enduring appeal and growing demand for top-level performance in the premium segment. MINI achieved significant growth, thanks to its new model family. Sales increased by nearly 18% compared to the previous year.

The main growth driver was the most versatile model in the line of the MINI Countryman, accounting for over 32% of the brand's total volume. MINI and electromobility are a perfect fit, and our customers clearly agree. This is underscored by an impressive achievement in 2025. For the first time, the brand delivered more than 100,000 all-electric models to customers in a single year.

That is more than 1 in every 3 MINI delivered. And in this way, MINI is making a major contribution to the electrification of the BMW Group. At our ultra-luxury Rolls-Royce brand, the number of handbuilt motorcars delivered to clients remained on the high level of the previous year. The value and number of requests for highly individualized Bespoke continued to increase. And the home of Rolls-Royce at Goodwood is currently being modernized and expanded to provide more space for both Bespoke and the marque's pinnacle Coachbuild products.

BMW Motorrad confirmed its strong market position in the premium segment in the financial year of 2025. Despite a global decline in the total market for motorcycles above 500 cc, the brand delivered more than 200,000 vehicles for the fourth year in a row. And most notably, the R 1300 GS and F 900 GS played a key role in BMW's Motorrad's market success in 2025.

Ladies and gentlemen, all of this shows that our multi-brand premium approach enables stability and growth. Another major strength of our business model is our ability to meet diverse customer preferences, different regional requirements and technological developments in parallel. Our electrified vehicles provide the clearest proof of this. In 2025, we delivered more than 640,000 electrified vehicles to customers worldwide. And that means they accounted for about 26% of our total sales with all electric vehicles making up around 18%.

Europe stands out, in particular, with electrified vehicles representing over 40% of sales. Plug-in hybrids were also in strong demand in 2025. And all of these factors make the BMW Group one of the leading providers of electromobility in the premium segment.

Thanks to our balanced mix of efficient drive technologies and growth in electrified vehicles, we once again outperformed the legal CO2 requirements in the European Union. Based on our preliminary internal calculations, we achieved fleet emissions of 90 grams of CO2 per kilometer in Europe in 2025.

That once again places us well below the legal target entirely through our own efforts. We do not need to rely on pooling with other manufacturers or even averaging over several years. This provides clear evidence that technology openness and effective climate protection are not mutually exclusive, but go hand in hand. The BMW Group remains fully committed to the goals of the Paris Climate Agreement while setting our own ambitious targets.

For example, by 2035, we aim to reduce our CO2 emissions by at least 60 million tonnes compared to 2019 levels, and we intend to hold ourselves accountable to this target. We're charting our own course, something that is more important now than ever before. On the one hand, we see that regulatory frameworks in individual markets can be extremely volatile.

And on the other, we are convinced that the European Union experiment of mandating electrification will not deliver the desired results to the contrary. For this reason, we continue to pursue a long-term holistic decarbonization strategy. We are committed to providing solutions not only for new vehicles, but also for the existing fleet on the roads based on technology openness across the entire life cycle of our vehicles.

And for this reason, we also integrate fuels such as HVO100 and [ advocate ] for 100% credit in CO2 calculations. And in addition, recognizing and crediting green steel would strengthen the European steel industry and safeguard jobs in Europe. Using more recycled materials in new cars reduces our climate footprint as demonstrated by our NEUE KLASSE.

A holistic approach strengthens European value chains and keeps the industry competitive. And at the same time, it enables effective climate protection and real CO2 reductions. Companies should be free to provide solutions geared towards customer needs while also investing in appropriate new technologies to meet the European Union's climate goals.

As a global player, we stand for free trade and global collaboration. We do not believe in protectionism, but rather in the power of innovation to compete on the global stage.

However, with the Industrial Accelerator Act, the EU Commission is continuing its protectionist course while not addressing homemade challenges like high energy prices. And one thing is clear. Without international value chains, the ramp-up of electromobility and the development of powerful battery technologies are not feasible.

Labels such as Made in the European Union or Union origin disadvantage European companies with global value chains if they do not recognize that each euro spent in Europe counts the same for prosperity and jobs. No matter if the car stays in Europe or is exported.

Instead, the development of expertise and production for battery cell technologies in the EU should be promoted and effectively incentivized as fast as possible. This year, together with policymakers, we must find realistic solutions that allow us to achieve our climate goals and to strengthen our economy and competitiveness.

Ladies and gentlemen, 2025 was shaped by very different development, strong growth in Europe and the United States, a much more challenging situation in China, rising competitive pressure and additional headwinds from tariffs. But nevertheless, the BMW Group continues to deliver a stable performance because we acted early. We adjusted our internal cost structures and maintained our strategic direction.

This combination of strong operating performance today and a clear long-term perspective is a crucial success factor for our company. And that brings me back to the vehicle standing next to me. The iX3 and the technology of the NEUE KLASSE testify to our innovation and performance.

And it underlines that we are already ahead. Walter Mertl will explain in more detail how our strong operating performance is reflected in our financial figures. We will then take a look at 2026 with more new products on the way.

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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. For the BMW Group, 2025 was marked by fully leveraging our operating model to deliver solid results in the face of the challenging environment. The year was heavily impacted by tariffs, developments on currency markets, especially in the second half of the year as well as the intense market situation in China.

In the face of these headwinds, we executed consistently on our strategy and took advantage of our flexible global structures. We balanced sales across our regions and our brands. We reduced R&D and CapEx, thanks to early investments in NEUE KLASSE, and we drove further cost reductions across the entire company.

With this, we were able to deliver on major KPIs in our operational business, a Stable Group EBT margin of 7.7%, the same as 2024 with Group earnings of more than EUR 10 billion. Volume growth to 2.46 million Group vehicles. The continuation of our electrification story with an increase in BEV share to almost 18% and xEV share to over 26% of total sales.

A electrified share in Europe of over 40%, a CO2 fleet emissions figure in the European Union of 90 gram per kilometer, 2.9 gram below the relevant target. An Automotive EBIT margin within our guided corridor, over EUR 3 billion free cash flow and solid capital returns.

As I promised at the annual conference 1 year ago, we have addressed all aspects of costs, R&D, SG&A, manufacturing and material costs to secure a consistent year-over-year reduction in every quarter. This amounted to an overall Auto EBIT tailwind of approximately EUR 2.5 billion for the year.

With our diligent management of the business, we have been able to offset a large share of the challenges we faced. Without the full year tariff burden of approximately 1.5 percentage points of EBIT margin, both our Group earnings as well as our Auto EBIT would have been above the previous year.

Let me now take you through our financial figures in detail. For the full year, group revenues totaled EUR 133 billion. Earnings before tax at Group level amounted to over EUR 10 billion as anticipated at Q3. This represents a single-digit percentage decline of 6.7%. The resulting Group EBT margin remained stable at 7.7% for the year, and earnings per share even rose slightly year-on-year.

If we look at the breakdown of the group performance by segment, the Automotive Segment delivered EUR 6.3 billion in earnings with an EBIT margin of 5.3%. Motorrad EBIT reached EUR 178 million with a margin of 5.7%. Financial Services generated EUR 2.4 billion in earnings before tax and a return on equity of 14.3%.

All 3 operational segments were, therefore, within their respective guidance corridors. Other entities improved to just over EUR 1 billion in EBT. The positive trend after 9 months continued into Q4. And finally, eliminations amounted to an EBT of EUR 629 million. This reflects the positive development in Q4 as anticipated.

Let's look at how the Automotive Segment performed across key metrics. Over the course of 2025, the BMW Group sold over 2.46 million BMW MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers worldwide, an increase of 0.5% over 2024. Looking at the regions, we see our global model at play as we steer effectively across geographies. As Oliver Zipse highlighted before, sales in Europe and the United States outperformed the market, delivering an increased market share and overcompensating the development in China.

We delivered a stable monthly run rate for the BMW brand of around 50,000 vehicles throughout the entire year in China despite the intense market environment. During the course of the year, we have taken actions to consolidate dealer structures and address pricing, which will underpin the stability in the market.

Excluding this Chinese market, global group sales in 2025 grew by 5.9%. Electrified vehicles are both a foundational pillar in our strategy and also a key growth driver, thanks to our expanding portfolio of attractive products. Oliver Zipse has already taken you through the figures in detail, but the highlights were a total of 642,000 electrified vehicles delivered in 2025, representing solid growth of 8.2% and an overall xEV share of over 26% and deliveries of all electric vehicles of 442,000 units for a share of almost 18%.

Revenues in the Automotive Segment came in at nearly EUR 118 billion, 5.9% below 2024. Approximately half of this decrease is due to negative currency effects. The remainder results mainly from global pricing pressure. Let's look at the year-on-year automotive EBIT result in detail coming from our previous year's earnings.

The net balance of currency and raw material positions resulted in a headwind of EUR 600 million. Negative trends in FX outweighed the slight positive effects from raw materials, particularly in the second half of the year. This adverse FX development is expected to carry into the first half of the current year, mainly in Q1.

Compared to 2024, the Net Effect of volume, model mix and pricing weighed on Automotive EBIT by a total of EUR 1.8 billion.

The overall mix effect was positive, driven notably by a strong share from the mid-class, including 5 Series growth as well as a record M performance. For the full year, pricing was a significant headwind of EUR 2 billion. In line with our planning, we continued to decrease operating costs in 2025.

As planned, we reduced R&D expenses following the peak in 2024 with a nearly EUR 800 million reduction year-on-year. SG&A savings represented EUR 900 million, continuing the trend from the first 9 months. Other cost changes amounted to a headwind of EUR 800 million. This development resulted from a few areas.

On the one hand, tariffs had a negative impact of approximately 1.5 percentage points on the auto EBIT margin. In addition, a softening market on residual values weighed on earnings. They remain positive but lower than the previous year.

On the other hand, warranty expenses were significantly lower year-on-year, as outlined at Q3. An additional positive effect came from a high 3-digit million saving in manufacturing costs and material costs. Overall, we reduced costs by EUR 2.5 billion for the full year through our active steering of R&D, SG&A and manufacturing costs and material costs.

Through this, we were able to offset all headwinds, except a portion of the approximately 1.5 percentage point tariff burden, resulting in a net year-on-year decrease of 1 percentage point in EBIT. In total, segment earnings in 2025 reached EUR 6.3 billion.

The automotive EBIT margin came in at 5.3%. Excluding the EUR 1.3 billion depreciation resulting from the PPA of BMW Brilliance Automotive, the EBIT margin reached 6.4% for the year. And that still includes the headwind of approximately 1.5 percentage points from tariffs. As you know, our focus is consistently on our reported figures.

Due to different approaches in the industry, however, consideration of PPA and tariff burden ensures better comparability of operational performance. Looking at R&D and capital expenditure in detail. We made early investments to implement our strategy, which we see as we look at R&D and CapEx development in 2025.

Group expenditure for research and development according to German Commercial Code for the year amounted to EUR 8.3 billion. This is a decrease of nearly EUR 800 million or 8% below the peak of EUR 9.1 billion in 2024. This translates to an R&D ratio of 6.2%.

Given the lower revenue, the ratio only declined slightly year-on-year. Group capital expenditure totaled EUR 7.2 billion, a year-on-year decrease of over EUR 1.8 billion from the peak of EUR 9.1 billion in 2024 or a 20% reduction. This resulted in a ratio of 5.4%.

The CapEx ratio, excluding right-of-use assets, came in at 4.9%. As promised, R&D and capital expenditure have already significantly decreased from the peak in financial year 2024. Despite the rollout of models of the NEUE KLASSE, we will maintain this trend going forward. This means in both absolute and relative terms, we are heading back towards our strategic corridors, which are 4% to 5% for R&D and less than 5% for CapEx by 2027. Moving to free cash flow. Total segment earnings before tax amounted to EUR 5.9 billion for the year.

Working capital contributed positively with EUR 900 million, mainly due to strict management of inventories. The net effect from capital expenditure and depreciation reduced free cash flow by EUR 2.3 billion. Changes to provisions had a negative impact of EUR 1.3 billion, mainly due to the utilization of warranty provisions.

Following the EUR 2.7 billion figure communicated at Q3, free cash flow developed positively in Q4 and reached EUR 3.2 billion at year-end. This was in line with our expectations of above EUR 2.5 billion for the year. Our financial strength is further underscored by our automotive net financial assets. At year-end, this came in at over EUR 44 billion.

Let's now turn to our Financial Services segment. As a key component of our BMW ecosystem, the segment consistently contributes to group profitability. In 2025, new business developed positively throughout the year with nearly 1.73 million new financing and leasing contracts concluded. This represents growth of almost 2% year-on-year.

The increase is due in particular to the positive business development in Europe as well as the changed competitive environment in China in the second half of the year. Since the end of June, the market situation has been influenced by the significant reduction in commissions from the local Chinese banks in connection with the brokering of financial and insurance products for end customers.

Penetration rates for lease and loan offerings increased by 4 percentage points to 46.6%. Overall, new business volume at Financial Services reached an all-time high, growing by 2% to EUR 65.8 billion despite negative currency effects.

Segment earnings before tax reached EUR 2.4 billion. The moderate decrease compared to 2024 is due to lower income from the resale of end-of-lease vehicles as well as tax payments related to changed assessments of operating taxes from previous years. Residual value remained positive but lower than the previous year. The credit loss ratio of 0.28% was within our expectation.

Return on equity for the full year reached 14.3% and therefore, within the guided target corridor of 13% to 16%. Ladies and gentlemen, in 2025, the BMW Group achieved Group earnings before tax of EUR 10.24 billion, thanks to a stable year-on-year profit attributable to shareholders of BMW AG amounting to EUR 7.29 billion, the Board of Management and the Supervisory Board will propose to the Annual General Meeting a total dividend payment of EUR 2.6 billion.

The proposed dividend represents a payout ratio of 36.6%, which is consistent year-over-year and in the upper half of our strategic target range of 30% to 40%. This amounts to a dividend of EUR 4.40 per share of ordinary stock and EUR 4.42 per share of preferred stock.

Additionally, we completed the second share buyback program in early 2025 before starting the third program after the AGM in May. The total from both programs amounted to a payout of EUR 1.25 billion in 2025. Our third share buyback program will run until April 2027. We are currently running the second tranche of this program with a volume of EUR 625 million for ordinary shares. That will be completed by August 31st, 2026, at the latest.

The third tranche is earmarked for after that. For the financial year 2025, the total shareholder return of close to EUR 4 billion, comprising the proposed dividend and share buybacks exceeds free cash flow in the Automotive segment. This further underscores our commitment to capital returns. That brings me to our outlook for the current financial year.

What are our expectations for 2026? In Europe and the U.S.A., we see some growth potential. In China, we have responded to the market environment by taking a number of steps to stabilize transaction prices. Average sales figures over the past few months indicate that sales in China could reach last year's level. Consequently, we forecast global deliveries of BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to be at previous year's level. Due to model cycle effects as well as shifting regulatory and market dynamics, we also expect the share of fully electric vehicles to be at the same level as the previous year.

Turning to Auto EV development. We continue to work diligently on reducing costs and we will see tailwinds from reduced investments, lower manufacturing and material costs, declining R&D expenditure as well as reduced SG&A in the 2026 financial year.

We anticipate a negative impact of approximately 1.25 percentage points from tariffs on the auto EBIT margin compared to the 1.5% in 2025. Given the significant investments made into NEUE KLASSE in preceding years, we will see a material increase in depreciation and amortization from both CapEx and capitalized R&D.

While we will continue to make significant reduction in R&D expenditure, the additional depreciation and a lower capitalization ratio, which is expected in the 30% area, will result in a significant P&L burden. Other headwinds in 2026 include FX and raw materials, the measures taken in China to stabilize transaction prices and finally, lower income from used car remarketing.

The reductions we will achieve on the cost side will not fully offset these headwinds. We, therefore, expect an auto EBIT margin in the corridor of 4% to 6% in 2026. The corresponding ROCE in the Automotive Segment is forecast to be between 6% and 10%.

In the Financial Services segment, we again anticipate a return on equity of 13% to 16%. Putting this all together, we expect group earnings before tax to be moderately lower than the strong result in 2025. The full 2026 outlook for all key performance indicators is available in the BMW Group report.

In addition, we expect the free cash flow in the Automotive segment at the year-end over EUR 4.5 billion. Ladies and gentlemen, for 2026, we will continue to systematically implement our strategic course, particularly with the launch of NEUE KLASSE product offensive, and the rollout of its technologies across the portfolio. We will leverage flexibility in our global business model to tackle the challenging and dynamic operating environment.

At the same time, we will manage our operational business with continued focus on cost discipline. This will enable us to deliver financial results in line with our guidance and generate strong return to shareholders. Ladies and gentlemen, let me pick up on Oliver Zipse's comments regarding sustainability and CO2 emissions before I hand back over to him.

For the BMW Group, we view sustainability holistically and as a competitive advantage. That is why we, in our annual reporting, disclose our sustainability performance fully to our investors and customers. In line with our strategy and our commitment to the Paris Climate Agreement, the BMW Group considers the CO2 emissions of vehicles, both for the new and existing fleet over the entire life cycle from raw material extraction and parts production to the manufacture of vehicles and across the use phase to the vehicles end of life. We address all stages of the value chain with ambitious targets.

However, European CO2 fleet emissions regulations focus only on the use phase and do not recognize the full reduction potential along the entire value chain. When it comes to reporting, emissions shown in sustainability statements do not always correlate to the actual generation of emissions of all vehicles on roads.

For the 2025 financial year, the BMW Group reporting includes all vehicles sold in the year across the life cycle, including the CO2 emissions from the supply chain for vehicles produced in the reporting year from BMW Group production, from the assumed use phase of 200,000 kilometers for vehicles delivered in the reporting year based on the consumption mix of the reporting year and from end-of-life disposal for vehicles produced in the reporting year.

However, the use phase emissions reported in line with European frameworks in 2025 do not consider all existing BMW Group vehicles still in use, but rather only those vehicles sold in the reported year. This means that the European reporting frameworks neglect the reduction potential of the existing vehicle fleet.

Here, there is significant leverage to quickly contribute to CO2 reductions through use of e-fuels and carbon-neutral fuels such as HVO100. Immediate credit should be given starting, for example, in 2027 for the CO2 reductions achieved using sustainable fuels, which should not be subject to limitations, such as caps on specific gram per kilometer values.

The European regulatory framework should reflect this holistic approach towards reducing overall emissions in the here and now in both the new and existing vehicle fleet because ultimately, every gram of CO2 saved counts. That is what we at the BMW Group believe and what makes a true societal impact.

I'll now hand back over to Oliver Zipse to provide additional strategic insights for 2026 and beyond.

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Ladies and gentlemen, looking ahead to this year and beyond, 3 key factors will be decisive. First, for our 2026 targets, the product lineup is currently available, which we have built up gradually over the past few years. And second, for this year and the years to come, the rollout of additional NEUE KLASSE models and integration of its technologies across the entire product range.

And third, the tech clusters of the NEUE KLASSE, which enable rapid advances and collaboration with leading tech players worldwide. Let's start with the first item. The company's current product portfolio across our BMW, MINI, Rolls-Royce and BMW Motorrad brands offers a range of premium options in all key segments from MINI in the urban compact car segment to Rolls-Royce in the ultra-luxury class.

At the beginning of this year, we added another highly exclusive dimension to our brand portfolio, BMW ALPINA. The long-established BMW ALPINA brand embodies a maximum performance and exceptional driving comfort combined with unique options for individualization. This makes it an ideal addition to our existing product range in the segment for individual, highly customized vehicles.

In this way, we are tapping into a highly profitable segment with great growth potential positioned above the BMW brand's top models and below our Rolls-Royce luxury brand. Overall, the BMW Group offers one of the industry most comprehensive and diverse premium portfolios.

A core strength of this lineup is our consistent focus on technology openness. We committed early to a market-driven mix of different drive technologies. With this approach, the BMW Group continues to chart its own course, enabling us to systematically respond to the diverse requirements of markets and customers well into the future. Because we choose this path early, making the necessary investments at the right time, we can now fully realize the market potential of our products. Today, we offer battery electric vehicles in all relevant segments. And by the end of the year, we will have a total of 20 BEVs across all brands.

This will further strengthen our competitive position. And at the same time, plug-in hybrids also remain important. And this is not just a bridging technology. For many people in all regions of the world, they are the only way to integrate electric locally emission-free mobility into their everyday lives.

Together with our range of highly efficient combustion engine, this approach provides maximum flexibility, ensuring that regional market opportunities can be consistently exploited. And this strong lineup lays the core foundation for the company's business success in 2026 and beyond.

At the same time, and that brings me to my second point. We are systematically building on our current advantage with the NEUE KLASSE. With the release of the BMW iX3, the market launch of the NEUE KLASSE has just begun. And this is only the start. Additional all-electric models with the new design and the innovations of the NEUE KLASSE will follow.

Another notable highlight will be unveiled next week when we present the BMW i3, the first variant of the next generation of the BMW 3 Series. The new i3 brings our NEUE KLASSE right into the heart of the BMW brand, prepared to be amazed by what the technologies of the NEUE KLASSE can do in a vehicle like the 3 Series.

I think it is fair to say that they take sheer driving pleasure to a whole new level. And here's a sneak preview of what we will be unveiling next week.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I am looking forward to presenting this incredible car to our BMW fans worldwide next week. And after that, we will meet again at Auto China in Beijing to introduce the Chinese version of the iX3 as the next NEUE KLASSE model.

We developed this vehicle exclusively for China together with our local R&D team in the market, ensuring that the product meets the specific wishes and needs of our Chinese customers. The result, the most Chinese car we've ever built.

Initial feedback from the local media has been overwhelmingly positive with Braze in particular, for its driving characteristics. The China-specific digital features have also been very well received. And then in 2027, BMW M will usher in a new era in the high-performance segment with the first all-electric M vehicle with racetrack capabilities based on the NEUE KLASSE.

Alongside development of the NEUE KLASSE, we've also created the essential conditions for rapid ramp-up with our supplier and production network. Production of the iX3 has successfully begun at our new plant in Debrecen. We will start production of the new BMW i3 at our main plant here in Munich in the second half of the year. To do so, we have completely modernized the plant during ongoing operations. And from late 2027, we will build only electric vehicles in Munich.

Production of high-voltage batteries will also begin at our new plant in Irlbach Strasskirchen in the second half of the year. And this facility will supply our plants in Germany with the sixth-generation high-voltage batteries.

Our plant cluster in Shenyang in China is also ready to build the NEUE KLASSE in China for China. And at our largest plant in Spartanburg in the United States, we are systematically modernizing the production system for the technologies of the NEUE KLASSE.

This also includes the new high-voltage battery assembly facility in nearby Woodruff. And across all plants in our production network, we are creating the necessary conditions to implement the technologies of the NEUE KLASSE as quickly as possible in all BMW models. Between now and 2027 alone, we will bring more than 40 new or updated models to the market. Each of them will benefit from the technologies of the NEUE KLASSE, always tailored to concept requirements and independent of the drive technology.

The best example of this is the next generation of our BMW X5. This summer, we will officially unveil the successor to our current model and the X5 will be the first BMW model to be offered with 5 different drivetrain variants with highly efficient conventional drives as a plug-in hybrid, battery electric and from 2028 onwards, also powered by hydrogen.

In this way, we are laying the foundation to successfully meet the diverse requirements and customer needs around the world, both today and in the future. And shortly before that, at the Beijing Show, we will be showcasing the first model update to feature technologies from the NEUE KLASSE the BMW 7 Series.

The result is an almost completely new vehicle. We're taking full advantage of the new possibilities from NEUE KLASSE technologies and raising our luxury sedan to a whole new level in terms of both appearance and technology. And this brings me to my third point, the technology clusters of the NEUE KLASSE and their potential.

With the technology clusters developed specifically for the NEUE KLASSE and our modular approach to technology, we can integrate market-specific functionalities and content into our vehicles. At the same time, we are strengthening our R&D capabilities to enable us to respond more quickly and flexibly to local customer needs and provide appropriate solutions.

In our key sales regions, we have already implemented numerous features in collaboration with leading local partners. For example, in the Chinese market, we are working with Alibaba, Banma to establish the next generation of intuitive in-car voice control.

In China, the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant is also being expanded to include deep sea functionality. In most markets, including Europe, we will be integrating Alexa+ as the centerpiece of our BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant. Thanks to the advanced large language model technology of Amazon Alexa+, our customers now benefit from an even smarter, more connected and highly personalized voice assistant.

With our driver assistance systems, we continue delivering the best possible customer experience in each region tailored to local requirements. And to achieve this, we work closely with selected partners. And our guiding principle remains the same. We always strive for smart, symbiotic and safe solutions.

Last summer, we launched a new cooperation in China with Momenta, a leading local provider of ADAS technology. And outside China, we are collaborating with the American company, Qualcomm. Both collaborations focus on the co-development and integration of software that adapts to different road conditions, traffic scenarios and user needs, relying on state-of-the-art AI algorithms and data-driven methods. These examples highlight the extraordinary flexibility and scalability of our tech clusters. With a software-defined NEUE KLASSE, we maintain control over all systems and can deploy them simultaneously worldwide. And we are also able to rapidly integrate local technology stacks, giving our customers access to their preferred innovations and features.

Continuous over-the-air updates ensure that our vehicle software is always up to date. All functionalities are improved on an ongoing basis to permanently enhance the customer experience. Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, the BMW Group remains successful and highly innovative. Our current product range is one of the broadest and most attractive lineups in the premium segment worldwide.

With the NEUE KLASSE and its technologies, we have secured a significant competitive advantage, and we will leverage these strengths to drive our economic success. However, it is also clear that our world remains unstable and numerous risks will persist in the current financial year.

We meet these challenges with strategic consistency and with market and opportunity-driven vision. Our global footprint in sales, research and development and production provides us with a foundation to mitigate uncertainties and respond flexibly to unforeseen events. And we will continue to build on these strengths in 2026 and of course, in the years to come.

Thank you very much.

So ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to our quarterly earnings call. Oliver Zipse and Walter Mertl are also back in the room with me. The line will be open shortly for your questions. The operator will first give you some technical instructions.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from José Asumendi from JPMorgan.

Oliver and Walter, I wanted to ask just a few questions, please, and they mainly revolve around China. And obviously, too early to give '26 guidance. But I was wondering with the upcoming product launches that you have and particularly Neue Klasse, do you think you can stabilize the business model and deliveries in China sequentially or even deliver higher sales growth in '26 versus '25?

Second, can you give us an update, please, where you stand on dealer restructuring in China? How far in the process are you in terms of, yes, reducing the number of dealerships and consolidating the dealer network?

Thank you, José. We start about China with Oliver and then Walter. Oliver?

José, this is Oliver speaking. Regarding China, I think what we see in China is a continued intense competition, and that has been influencing our sales volume also in 2025. But now we -- I think since September, we're kind of stabilizing on the current volume. It's about 50,000 units per month that is stabilizing. Also prices are stabilizing. But we see continued intense competition, of course, there. I think Walter will talk in a minute about the dealer restructuring.

But overall, I think the Neue Klasse will stabilize the business there. It will not come to the market early the year. It will be rather at the end of the year. So we will see next year about the volume of 2025. But looking at the product portfolio we have there from MINI over all segments of BMW and then Rolls-Royce, I think that will give us some form of resilience. And of course, the Neue Klasse, we will have a car there, which is adapted to Chinese needs. It's a longer version.

There's a lot of Chinese for China content in there. So I think we are ready to give good responses to a continued dynamic market. And -- but we will not see rapid growth in China next year, no, not in 2026; and 2027, we will have to see there. What is important that we are entering into targeted collaboration with Chinese partners. And I mentioned a couple of them. It's Alibaba, it's DeepSeek integration. It's Huawei, it's Tencent, it's Momenta. So what we see there that you will see specifically on the digital side, a lot more cooperation with our Chinese partners in China.

Thank you, Oliver. And Walter?

José, yes, as we mentioned, we stabilize on this roughly 50,000 units a month in China and the dealer restructuring network is part of it because we have to stabilize that one first, and we are well on track. We are more than halfway through. We will finish this restructuring by mid next year. And with every dealer restructured, we come in a more stable phase on the dealer profitability side, which is supporting and straight away our sales performance in the market. We have even established new locations with the dealers. We closed some of those.

We switched some from sales and service to service-only in order to maintain even our service setup and footprint. So I think we are doing everything in order to stabilize China. And like Oliver mentioned, we wouldn't expect growth next year and then the rest is coming then with the Neue Klasse from '27 onwards, and we shall see that one about the market dynamics.

Our next question is from Patrick Hummel from UBS.

I hope you can hear me. It's Patrick from UBS. A couple of questions. First of all, Oliver, I think you ended up with your prepared remarks saying you're looking into the future with optimism. And I'd like to pick up on that in terms of what that means for next year. We currently have a run rate in the auto EBIT margin in the second half of, let's say, around 5%, I guess, Q4, maybe even a little bit below.

If you think qualitatively about the key puts and takes going into next year, I appreciate today is not guidance day, but can you just elaborate a little bit where that optimism comes from and whether that's also optimism as far as the EBIT margin expansion year-over-year is concerned? Because I think we do have some headwinds year-over-year. Obviously, China had weakened during this year. We have some further tariff headwinds, I would assume we have some FX headwinds.

So just to better understand where that optimism comes from. And the second question is more capital allocation-related one. Your free cash flow guide for the year is now more than EUR 2.5 billion because of that almost EUR 1 billion of delayed refund of the overpaid tariff. I'm just wondering how that affects your thinking about future share buyback activity?

Are you just going to smoothen and sort of allocate the EUR 1 billion that's missing this year to this year so that you can still continue your share buyback with EUR 1 billion plus next year? How do you think about that timing difference we have because of the overpaid tariff this year in the context of share buyback in the future?

Good. Yes, we understand. Thank you, Patrick. We start with Oliver.

Patrick, I would like to start philosophically a little bit. Karl Popper once said, optimism is an entrepreneurial duty. Just imagine you are not optimistic about the future of your company. What would that mean? I leave that -- the answer of that question to you. But for BMW now, that optimism is not naive optimism. It's the result of a year-long strategy process, which gives us a lot of resilience. First of all, there's, of course, the Neue Klasse where we have all technology clusters on benchmark level. And the investment for that is mainly already behind us.

So that is what we have already done. And now we talk about the rollout of many new cars based on these technology clusters. If we wouldn't be optimistic after these high investments, which are already behind us, we would have done something completely wrong. Then, of course, on the cost side, we are continuously improving. We are below the 2024 levels already now substantially.

So we take advantage of application of AI in all processes, becoming more efficient at the same time, having efficiency as a core element of our entrepreneurial duty on top of technological competence. So that gives us all optimism. And don't forget, let's look at 2025. Europe was growing by more than 8%, United States by more than 9%, the Rest of the World by more than 10%. And if you only look at crisis or more difficult markets like China or supply chain issues, then this is not the whole story.

The whole story is -- we have a global footprint. We have a technology-neutral approach. We have a premium multi-brand strategy across all relevant customer segments. And we play the global market, which is growing, by the way, also all forecasts for the next 5 years, and you can read whatever source you want, there is a growing worldwide market on individual mobility. And that is where we think we are resilient for the future. And that gives us, of course, also some realistic optimism into the future.

Yes, Patrick, I can understand your arguments. And of course, China second half year was different than in the first half year, but we are still running and doing efficiencies against it. There will be a first half year impact and straight away, of course, I can understand this one. The same is with FX. It's also the impact in the second half year. Translation is different in the second half year than in the first half year. You know that all across the companies.

On the other side, tariff will be different as well in the first half year compared with the first half year of last year. And efficiencies, we just elaborated today that we also did a good work on that on all cost categories, having positive impacts between '25 and '24. So year-to-date, I even mentioned today around EUR 2 billion cost efficiencies across all cost elements, not just some fixed costs, but across everything, material costs, logistic costs, fixed costs in any kind. So these ones are also running positively on the other side.

And with respect to your free cash flow, of course, I can understand the discussions and your points with respect to CapEx and depreciation, this will be, of course, directionally positive. As we just stated, our CapEx is down. Depreciation will grow next year with the start of the production of our Neue Klasse, of course, depreciation is kicking in. On the other side, don't forget the efficiencies. But that will be also then, of course, positively for the free cash flow, not to forget, you mentioned refund of tariffs next year.

But this is a time gap between EBIT and cash. And of course, there is sometimes an effect positively as you just have provisions for, but at one stage, as we see on the warranty side on us, there is a cash out. So in principle, that is okay. On the other side, with regards to capital allocation, of course, we can't mention anything with respect to the capital allocation at this stage. So we will provide you, of course, with the annual conference and update.

But more importantly, I think, we stress that we have a strong balance sheet, and this gives us the ability to honor our capital allocation commitments in this dynamic year '25. And I think we underpinned that we said for this year '25, free cash flow automobile is not a cap, but we took this cap away, and we stressed in the ad hoc as well as in the speech today that we still stick to the 30% to 40% dividend rule we have. Even we are not having a policy, but we stick to our own rules. Thank you, Patrick.

Our next question is from Tim Rokossa from Deutsche Bank.

Max, Oliver and Walter. I'd like to follow up very quickly to that, Walter. So if I take the EUR 2.7 billion or so starting point this year, you have the U.S. tariff repayments, you have less IBS cash out, you have CapEx down. We are in the vicinity of something like EUR 4 billion to EUR 5 billion for next year, just knowing the building blocks that we know today. Maybe there's something you want to say on that.

And then to my 2 questions, please. On China, I think what was most surprising with the latest profit warning is actually how profitable you are still in China. So, so much about that validated optimism, Oliver. I fully agree with that. You have to be optimistic on that market. Some would say that your assumption about a flat '26 market is now again too optimistic. How can you give us some reassurance that we don't stand here and post the summer break '26 and have the same revelation that we had over the last 2 years, i.e., you still being too optimistic, assuming a flat market when in reality, it was probably trending down.

Is there anything you changed with respect to your quarterly assessments, monthly assessments, anything else, adjusting capacity and so on and so forth? And thirdly, probably to you, Oliver, as well or maybe Walter, we all talk about the German OEMs all the time. Every newspaper seems to sell better saying BMW has a problem. Mercedes has a problem, BMW is terrible and so on and so forth. When in reality, you guys have very globally diversified business models, you make money from all sorts of things.

And the real issue is on the supplier side in Europe and Germany, arguably. That also means more support from you guys for these suppliers. Is that something that we should preemptively put in our models every year now? Is there something that you see, Oliver, in your discussions with politicians is actually understood? How urgent the situation there is? Or is this just being totally ignored and everyone just focuses on the OEMs?

Thank you very much, Tim, for your question. I think we start with the first and the second one with Walter and then about the German OEMs, the answer will come from Oliver. Walter, please.

Tim, yes, I can see all the points, which I tried to elaborate with Patrick's answers on the free cash flow statement, yes. But of course, I can't give you any numbers. That is not the time to do so. But the topics, of course, I think I elaborated already answering Patrick's question. With respect to China and profitability thing and optimism, well, we do our homework. We differentiate our tasks and measures on the production side, but also on the sales side.

And I think we stressed it already today. We mentioned on the production side that we are utilizing our capacity flexibility -- flexible in all aspects. I can just underpin that the cost metric is a total different one in China than outside China. I mentioned that also permanent. And on the sales side, we are just in the middle of the consolidation, the restructuring and resizing these things. As I mentioned, we closed some locations. We opened even new locations. We downgraded some fully fledged dealerships to service-only in order to cover the customer support fields.

So we are doing all that stuff. And we are more than halfway through already now, and we will finish it by midyear '26. And with every dealership set up freshly and restructured, we will contribute to the profitability of dealers and hence, also to make it more attractive to sell fantastic BMW Group cars. So with that respect, I think we are still on a good track. You do know that we have been performing well in the first half year. And at the Capital Market Day, we had the discussion about groups, which impact is it all about with this commission statement changed.

But we shall see that even we have to consider some subsidies, which are differently now since October than in previous quarters coming from provinces and cities, and that will also come into effect one way or the other. So we're observing the whole market, and we cope with the dynamics with all instruments we have. And I think that should underpin our optimism. Thank you.

Thank you, Walter. Oliver?

Tim, I think, the industry -- and I don't like, as you know, the word crisis, but we are on the crossroads of something. And the crossroads means that the rules for competitiveness for OEMs as for suppliers alike are very similar. First rule is you have to have a global approach to be able to profit from technological advance from global supply chains and also from global markets. I'm adamant that this is one of the secrets of the future of suppliers and OEMs. The second is that you have to have some form of technology-neutral capability.

That means you have to be able to manage complexity to stay efficient despite the complexities, efficient in all your processes. And that means you have to be very close to your markets, which are super diverse. There is no one size fits all in market demand. So technology-neutral means you have to embrace complexity and at the same time, stay efficiently. And the third one is -- and that is very much linked to the global approach, you have to be on the verge of technological and innovation development.

And a lot of technology, they are not born inside Germany or inside Europe, they're born in a global context. Look at batteries, look at AI applications, look at digital capabilities like assistant or autonomous driving. And if you don't have a global approach to have connectivity into these technologies, you might run into competitive problems. And that -- to see that and discover that resilience means that you have to stay globally connected despite the fact that you might have disruptions in your global supply chain. And you have to read it correctly. If you think you become resilient to cut your global supply chains, I think, you're on the wrong path.

Our next question is for Stephen Reitman from Bernstein.

Yes. My question is also about China. You mentioned that, obviously, the cost base you have in China is very, very different from what you have in Europe, and I guess, even in your German plants and even in Hungary, I guess. What I was thinking what that means implications for pricing in China of your new products. We've seen your German neighbor Mercedes price their CLA based on their new electric platform at a very aggressive level at RMB 259,000, so very much like-for-like with the Tesla Model 3 Long Range.

Obviously, it's not a vehicle that directly correlates to the iX3 or the i3, but it maybe is a signal that there is a realization that one has to price at these kind of levels, which are quite different from where we've seen historically in the German autos price their cars. Do you have any kind of observations on that without necessarily revealing what your pricing strategy is in absolute detail is going to be?

Thank you very much, Stephen. Walter?

Stephen, well, we always have to differentiate the price and the volume, not just per se, but also which price we are talking about. We have MSRPs and we have transaction prices of the market. And the transaction prices are usually with the dealers because they're independent. And we have our net sales revenue, ultimately, how we are selling our cars and products to the dealers. And with respect to the transaction price deterioration since '23, especially since '24, Q2, we have given here and there more support to them in order to adjust the profitability. That's crystal clear.

And the whole transaction prices collapsed, in fact, in '24 for the whole industry, everyone across all segments, whether we have high pay or low pay cars. But still, the dominant growth in the market comes from cars up to RMB 150,000, that is the dominant growth year-on-year. Now with respect to our competitors' pricing, of course, we are having a look on which transaction price levels our cars are priced transactional price-wise currently. And we have our understanding how we utilize this one for us, how we set our MSRP or recommended price.

And you can see that also if you compare the predecessor of the current X3 in China and the successor, the current X3. So you see transaction prices slightly elevated, but not much. And I think based on that one, we consider all the dynamics, even our competitors trying to utilize whatever best. We learn from all of that, once we set the prices properly. And parallel, of course, with respect to our profitability, we are working very hard on all the cost levers with respect to material costs, but also with respect to production costs.

And don't forget, we fully consolidate our joint venture, BBA, whilst other competitors don't have this fully consolidated effects like we do. So we have a different revenue base. We have different costs in our balance sheet and P&L. So we can't compare straight away the P&L effects between us consolidating fully our joint venture partner in China and others just having them like they have shares in other companies and getting that as financial result. That is, of course, also to be considered. Thank you, Stephen.

Our next question is from Philippe Houchois from Jefferies.

I've got 2 questions, if possible. And I'll take your point, Oliver, about optimism and looking into 2026. I look at all the changes we've seen on tariff. And more recently, we've had no new proclamation from Trump on the 3.75. We're going to get tariff from the U.S. into the EU to 0. The CO2 pullback in the U.S. is a mix opportunity for you, I assume. And I'm just wondering, is there a reason why if we look at Western world, U.S., Europe, if there should be any incremental negative in 2026 versus '25 or if those changes kind of balance out into a more optimistic outlook?

And then my second question, then I'll be a pessimist. And it seems like the 10th of December is when we're going to hear from the EU about adapting their strategy. I look at this industry and everybody has a different view, a different agenda on CO2, on local content, et cetera, and -- rather than a unified approach that might give the industry a bit more weight in discussing with Brussels. So I'm just wondering, do you think that on the 10, we get a changed auto policy and then everyone will have to adapt or there will be a little bit of everything for everyone? So do we have a piecemeal approach, you'll be happy and -- or do we have a view that will favor you or the French or the Germans, the usual dividing in the industry?

Thank you very much, Philippe. Oliver?

Philippe, thank you for your question. On the tariff side, I would like to underline what we have said before. If you have a global business model, that is kind of a natural hedge you have. Take the example of BMW. Just for the sake of the argument, just assume that we're importing and exporting into the United States and into Europe about the same amount of cars. So from Germany into United States and from Spartanburg into Europe. Just for the sake of the argument, if that would be -- and that is about the case, it's the equal value of cars.

Then of course, before we paid the sum of 12.5%, 10% into Europe and 2.5% into the United States. Now after the conclusion of the deal with the United States, with 15%. So it's an increase of 12.5% to 15%. This does not destroy any business model. And this effect that it almost doesn't change despite the fact that locally, we have different taxes means that a global business model kind of protects you against these changes. And that is even more true when both markets grow.

As I said before, Europe grows by more than 8% in the first 9 months and the United States grew by more than 9% in the first 9 months. So it's kind of even a stabilizing element. But I think what is even more important that a global business model and international corporation is at the core of everything industry must do. And they must do everything to get also political support for global trade and to tell what the guiding principles of this trade is. And we have to reduce trade barriers instead of increasing them.

And if you look, for example, at what we see in the semiconductor industry, at the core of it is not an industrial problem. It's the inability to talk to each other on an eye-hide level. And that is why we said we have to reduce trade barriers, not increase them. I come to your second question. What we really fight for is a new regime in the CO2 regime for 2030 and 2035, away from tailpipe only all the way to life cycle assessment that we take all CO2 effects we see in our industry into account. And that we are confident that we also achieve currently the 2025.

And I can also tell you '26 and '27 will not be different that we will achieve our targets despite the fact that they are more strict now in 2025. And I think technological neutrality is very crucial. And I think a piecemeal approach is exactly the wrong way. As long as you stay tailpipe only, it doesn't help you if you allow some e-fuels in it and also allow plug-in hybrids. That is not enough.

That is not enough to give an industrial valid proposal for CO2 reduction, which keeps the industry in its size, which doesn't shrink markets. I think it's very important. And all we achieved so far gives us credibility in our position. And we think we have to get away from tail-pipe only measurements. This is the most important request we have from policymakers. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Philippe. Now we know Oliver is responsible for optimism. So thank you.

Our next question is from Horst Schneider from Bank of America.

Yes. And I hope you can hear me. On this optimism, just I remember to one of the BMW meetings that was, I think it was 10 years ago. There was a joke made. What does a German who sees light at the end of the tunnel, he extends the tunnel. But that is not my question. And I think you have got clearly a different stance, Oliver. My questions are more related to Europe, a region where you performed strong, which is a good region for you at the moment. Maybe you can talk a little bit about the order trends and price trends that you are seeing.

The background of my question, as I said, we see at the moment that one of your peers is running this significant model launch of [indiscernible] and, of course, tries to take market share. That's also what the company targets suggest of this peer. So I want to know if there's any impact that you see in the market from that, which could hurt you.

And then the second question also related to that is you said that iX3 got off to a very good start in terms of orders. Do you see some cannibalization that people switch, let's say, from the iX1 to the iX3. In general, do you see that competitors also react to your very competitive pricing that you have said, the pricing that you can afford because of the Neue Klasse concept. But do you feel also in that context that maybe in 2026, there's very strong competition in the European EV market just because every peer tries to sell the model at the same time?

Thank you very much, Horst. Oliver?

Horst, it's not new in the last 10 years that there's competition and everyone tries to fetch market share from the other competitors. This is -- I mean, this is the essence of this industry for many, many years. And as I said, in Europe, we grow in Europe together with BMW and many faster than the market. So we are one of the peers who are taking market share. And by the way, I don't have any problem if the iX3 cannibalizes the iX1, it's okay. It's completely okay. I mean, it's a more expensive product. And if that is happening, it's fine.

And the iX1 is currently completely sold out. It's produced in our Regensburg plant. The Regensburg plant operates absolute on its limits on a 6-day week, 3 shifts per day. It's completely sold out. So I wouldn't have any problem with that kind of cannibalization when a higher-value product cannibalize the lower value product. That's okay with me. And of course, there's a very strong competition in the EU market, EV market. We know exactly the point where we stay in the market and when we leave the competition. We know exactly the point where we do that.

And of course, you can adjust your prices, but you must know in what kind of business model we are working on. And if you look at our results, especially on the group side, I think we do that in that competitive market quite well. And at the end of the day, we still have a very, very solid business model. And I think with our full lineup of combustion engines, plug-in hybrids, BEVs and diesels, we are perfectly set up for the European market also for 2026.

And that means that you expect an increase of sales, especially on EVs clearly in 2026 also in Europe. You made the statement on China, but for Europe, clearly, you should aim for an increase and higher than the market growth, right?

You hear me silent because we are not at the time of the year to make any prognosis.

Yes, that's fair.

But I remain optimistic, yes. Yes. Yes. Overall, yes, I do remain optimistic.

So optimism is the word of the day. Yes.

Our next question is Anthony Dick from ODDO BHF.

Yes. My question was around the costs. So firstly, regarding the comment you made about costs being lower in Q4. I was just wondering if that should affect the usual seasonality we usually see with Q4 being a weaker quarter from a margin perspective. And then -- so we've seen some important labor force reduction programs at your peers, especially in Germany. So I know this is not really usually the BMW way, but I was just wondering if you were also considering such measures in light of the circumstances. And just more generally, also, could you elaborate a little bit in terms of what you're doing on the cost side of things and how that will carry through 2026?

Good. Thank you very much, Anthony. We start with Walter about the costs in Q4.

Anthony, it's about the costs. I didn't mention anything about Q4. So of course, not. But I elaborated on in the quarter and year-to-date and optimistically, as this is the time for, we cut our costs in the quarter year-on-year by more or less EUR 1 billion. And year-to-date, I mentioned more or less EUR 2 billion. So year-on-year, Q4 will be also lower. That is a lower aspect year-on-year.

But in the quarter 4, there is usually seasonality that the highest fixed cost we have in the quarter 4, but not year-on-year, that is still the lower aspect. I hope that makes it more clear. So seasonality is still there. The labor force reduction, I thought we explicitly mentioned that. So we have this impact that we reduce it in total, but I have to stress again, we utilize the flexibility also in China where we have fixed-term contracts in our joint venture.

And once they expired, they haven't been renewed. And that brought it down to a slightly below previous year. If we have a look outside China, we would still guide this previous year's level. But we are just utilizing the flexibility all over the place. And as we had to adjust with our prediction, the Chinese numbers, that's automatically the consequence.

And with respect to costs, I'm happy to repeat myself thousand times. We just utilize our costs and organize that they are coming down, whether we speak about material costs, CapEx or any of these fixed costs, but we have no program. We have no cost program like other ones mentioning. At one stage, I mentioned even should you need a program, eventually, you need external help. And we are not utilizing external help because we just do our homework on all cost elements. Thank you.

Our next question is from Stuart Pearson, Oxcap Analytics.

Just a couple left. I mean just noticing your, I guess, silence or reluctance to answer Horst on the xEV mix in Europe next year. I just wonder, given your -- I mean, you're not just on track to meet your CO2 targets this year, you actually might beat them a little bit. Do you really need to increase xEV mix in the next couple of years? You're already around 40% year-to-date in Europe, market is around 30%.

So I wonder, is that really a goal to keep pushing that mix higher? Or could we see you rather take the benefit of fresh EV product pricing and margin? And conversely, if you were to increase your xEV mix and hence improve your CO2 significantly in the next couple of years, could we even see you think about selling your services in a pool to another carmaker and monetizing it that way? So just a question on xEV in Europe.

And the second one is also xEV, but over in the U.S., where xEVs were around 25% of your Q3 sales. I wonder if you can share what proportion of those were benefiting from the subsidy via the leasing loophole that's now being removed and how you see the U.S. market post that? And Mercedes was talking about U.S. still being a growth market. Obviously, it was tough in October on the overhang -- but so -- hangover, but I just wonder how you expect to see that in the coming months and into next year.

Okay. Thank you very much, Stuart. We start about the xEV in Europe with Oliver and then the U.S. with Walter. Oliver?

Stuart, we have this very strange regulation in Europe that you only have a stepping function every 5 years. So between 2025 and 2029, the targets remain the same. So our mix in 2025, where we increased the BEV sales by more than 10%, almost automatically gives us the leeway to reach the CO2 targets. And now with the new product lineup, also the Neue Klasse, the ramp-up of MINI and so we will almost automatically reach our targets in 2026 because the target stays the same as in 2025.

And by the way, that's also part of our proposal to the European Union to do a continuous improvement process that the CO2 targets are [ adapted ] every year and not only every 5 years. So we are kind of quite relaxed about the 2026 targets on the BEV side. Will it increase? The market will show, Stuart. I don't make any prognosis on the BEV market in 2026. We follow the markets. We look for market share. And if that is with EVs, we follow it. It's very simple.

Thank you, Oliver. Walter?

Stuart, with respect to the -- yes, we have a lower EV share than we utilized in Europe, and we all understand why. But we're still running on roughly 14%, 1-4. So the other way around in Europe xEV. With respect to the benefit of the support up to end of September, we utilized the IRA aspect in all relevant numbers.

And with this respect, we see also if you have a look for auto data, for example, that even incentives came down. Don't forget Auto-Data includes the IRA impact like tactically support despite the fact the government paid for in the past up to end of September. And our share was always higher than traditional competitors of us.

So it automatically, you see incentives coming down even month-on-month or quarter-on-quarter. You can see that in Auto-Data. And with respect to the coming months, well, we saw that in the month of October, the whole BEV market was a bit lower than previous months, especially September, where the run on off was more or less coming in.

And then we shall see. I guess it's too early to speak about trends or whatever, that will be seen in November and December, but we are still selling good EVs in the U.S. Thank you.

So we come to our last question.

Our last question is from Michael Tyndall from HSBC.

Mike from HSBC. Just a couple, if I can. Walter, can you help me with a little bit of math here? So if I look at your EBIT walk, the other bucket was EUR 1.2 billion. I think you said that tariff was in there, so that's roughly EUR 500 million. So we've got other at EUR 1.7 billion. If I'm not wrong, IBS cost about EUR 800 million last year. So we've got the reversal of that. And there were some other issues in 2023, again, if I'm not wrong, on airbags and such. How much was warranty of that EUR 1.7 billion? Because I'm trying to understand when I think about Q4, how much of that continues on into Q4?

And then the second question for Oliver. You've very kindly done a lot of work explaining Neue Klasse to all of us. And I just wonder how does that translate to consumer awareness? Very strong orders for the iX3. Are customers aware of what a big change this is? Or are they buying it because they like the way it looks, the way it drives? I guess the answer is all of those things. But I'm curious to know how you can actually raise consumer awareness about this big change that you're making?

Good. Thank you very much. Walter?

Michael. Well, I hoped that my speech was quite clear. But again, happy to speak about. It was not about '23, it was about '24, first of all. And in '24, in the quarter 3, we had a high 3-digit million provision for the warranty cases, a high 3-digit million. Then with respect to this 1 and 3 quarter EBIT hit year-on-year based on additional tariffs, that is a mid-digit level.

So that altogether, that's what I mentioned on the one hand and on the other side, that is still positive. But the majority of our improvements were then running on material costs and manufacturing costs and direct costs like logistics, for example. So altogether in the quarter that all came in. That was this EUR 1.2 billion bucket.

Michael, concerning the Neue Klasse, I think during the IAA here in Munich, we created a huge media awareness of the car, what it is, how it looks, how it's used, what the innovative features are in it. And on top of that, in the coming days, journalists and other key opinion leaders will experience and test the series vehicle. And I think the core of the car is how it drives.

And we -- whoever drove the car said, well, I've never experienced anything like how it drives, how synergetic the assistant functions of the car, interact with the driver and the physical properties of the car. I think that is new. And of course, we're going to pinpoint it. And at the end of the day, people buy on design. And we think with the new design language we created for BMW, we hit it right on spot that people love what they see. It's a new, sleek, very modern language we have here, and that will attract more customers.

Thank you, Oliver. Ladies and gentlemen, now we have reached the end of the telephone conference. Thank you for your optimism to us and for your questions. All the best to you. Bye-bye and [Foreign Language] from Munich.

[Interpreted] Colleagues, we shall now turn to the second part of our quarterly conference, and we'll continue this in German with interpretation. As always, you get some technical information before we take the first question.

[Interpreted] Ladies and gentlemen, we're now beginning the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Christina Amann, Thomson Reuters.

[Interpreted] I have a couple of questions. I'd like to start with Nexperia. I bet that's the question most will ask. What's the supply situation with semiconductors? What are the perspectives for production? What are the perspectives in the short, mid- and long term? What is BMW doing in order to solve that situation?

Second question. Regarding investments, Mr. Mertl, you said that investments will be reduced according to plan, both for development and for production facilities and similar. So could you explain that a little more?

Since in that context, now I look into the U.S., tariffs are an issue for BMW. Is repayments outstanding a reason for your lower forecast? What are the steps BMW had taken in order to improve the situation? Are you planning to relocate more production into the U.S.? And now a first glance into the year 2026, what are the prospects for that year?

[Interpreted] Thank you, Ms. Amann. I guess that covered pretty much everything that we need to answer today. Let's start with Nexperia, Mr. Zipse.

[Interpreted] The question is not entirely unexpected. But let me answer strategically. In global -- being at home in global supply chains, I mean, that's something we've practiced twice, once during corona and then during the semiconductor crisis 2.5 years ago. So it doesn't really hit us as a surprise.

To get back to this particular case, all I can say is that we are in close contact with our direct and indirect suppliers, the ones further down in the supply chain. And we continue to assess the situation.

So we do this several times a day in order to identify potential supply risks early and if necessary, to then take required or appropriate measures. Currently, production in the market is going well. But it is a volatile situation, and this is why we are making use of all possible measures to keep up our production as good as possible.

What is important, Nexperia is not a direct business partner of the BMW Group, but it supplies our direct suppliers and we support them in validating and activating alternative supply opportunities. Thank you for the question.

[Interpreted] Then part two, investment. Walter, please.

[Interpreted] Our long-term plan had been planned early. So from -- we were able to talk about that investing in 2020. And a peak is a peak and it's not our level. So it's always been clear that in 2025 and '26 and '27, we would gradually reduce that back to our strategic corridor. And that's reflected in our actual figures. We've done our homework. We've had to invest in CapEx and R&D, and we carried that out.

Now regarding the tariffs, the requests or the applications for refunds have already been filed. Otherwise, we continue to optimize the way that we had announced in the last 2 quarters as well, and we're doing everything we can in order to reduce costs for 2026. Well, we'll talk about that next year, March, at the balance sheet press conference. Thank you.

[Interpreted] Okay. Let's take the next question.

[Interpreted] Next question, [ Christoph Meyer ] from dpa.

[Interpreted] I can take it from there, the refunds. The applications you filed, what are the quantities we're talking about? How much will you be refunded? Then another question relating to figures. The support for dealerships in China, can you give us a dimension here, an idea? How much did that cost you?

[Interpreted] Thank you, Mr. Meyer. Walter Mertl, please.

[Interpreted] Well, the application for tariff refund, we filed it. We do it once a quarter. We file that retrospectively for August and September. Since end of September, the most recent tariff applies 50% in the U.S. and the other refunds for production support at 3.75%, we can also file an application for a refund of that. And as you know from our ad hoc guidance, we're assuming it's a high 3-digit million amount, if you add up all of them, be it refunds or payback of over-payments.

And then you asked about support for dealerships. That's a low 3-digit million amount to clarify this and profitability and liquidity as well as operations can this way be maintained in China.

[Interpreted] Thank you. Next question, please.

[Interpreted] Next question, Stephen Wilmot from The Wall Street Journal.

Firstly, just a quick yes or no one on the Nexperia situation. Are you seeing an easing of a situation now or not? And then secondly, just wondering if you can give a bit more guidance on the outlook for tariffs going forward. So 175 basis points in the quarter, 150 for the full year. Do you -- I mean, is the 175 the new normal? Or do you expect the impact to come down as you head into 2026? So yes, those were the two questions.

[Interpreted] Well, Stephen, as we already said earlier, we're in close contact with our suppliers. And we are really continuously assessing the situation in order to early identify potential supply risks and then to take suitable measures. So this is something that's happening on a basis of several times a day.

But what's also important to us, and this is what we already talked about earlier. And to add to this, we are welcoming the positive signals coming from politics. So we're explicitly welcoming those. I think it is very important that all stakeholders in the economy and politics are aware of the fact that these are global supply chains.

And they will remain global even if you take hedging measures, you will, especially in the semiconductor industry or the battery industry, no matter how you position yourselves, if you've got several suppliers, I mean, there will always be some remaining dependency and this is why we welcome it very much if politics recognize that, especially here in Germany, we do have these global dependencies and they also have a lot of benefits.

[Interpreted] Thank you. Maybe Walter, the outlook regarding the tariffs.

[Interpreted] Well, as I've said in my presentation, we're assuming 1.75 percentage points impact for the entire year. And of course, we're expecting that everything has been translated into laws that's been announced. So we're assuming also in terms of from the EU, we're expecting that the 0% import tariffs from the U.S. into the EU will then be ratified and confirmed by the parliament. That's what we're assuming is going to happen.

[Interpreted] Thank you. next question, please.

[Interpreted] Next question is from Joachim Herr from Boersen Zeitung.

[Interpreted] I have two questions. Mr. Zipse, again, on Nexperia, you said in earlier cases, you were able to practice in Corona and also during the semiconductor crisis or where we have these bottlenecks. Can you briefly explain what you've learned from that? Or how you are able to better handle the situation this time?

And the second question on China. Sales in China, minus 11% in the first 9 months. So that's below your expectations. How do you react to that? Are you going to lower the capacities? Are you reducing headcount as well? So how do you deal with that in terms of production?

[Interpreted] Thank you. Let's begin with Nexperia, Oliver Zipse and Walter Mertl.