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📘 Marktkapitalisierung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Marktkapitalisierung zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen laut Börse aktuell wert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft Unternehmen in Größenklassen (Large, Mid, Small Cap) einzuordnen und gibt Hinweise auf Marktmacht und Stabilität.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Große Unternehmen gelten als stabiler, zahlen oft Dividenden, wachsen aber langsamer.
- Kleine Firmen können stärker wachsen, sind aber schwankungsanfälliger.
- Die Marktkapitalisierung ist ein guter Indikator für Unternehmensgröße, aber kein Maß für Unter- oder Überbewertung.
📘 Enterprise Value (Unternehmenswert)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Enterprise Value (EV) zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich kostet, wenn man es komplett übernehmen würde – inklusive Schulden und abzüglich Cash.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
(= Marktkapitalisierung + Nettoverschuldung)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der EV ist eine realistischere Bewertungsbasis als die Marktkapitalisierung, da er die Kapitalstruktur berücksichtigt. Er ist Grundlage für Kennzahlen wie EV/FCF oder EV/Sales.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Der Enterprise Value zeigt, was ein Unternehmen tatsächlich wert ist – unabhängig davon, wie es finanziert ist.
- Er ist besonders wichtig für professionelle Investoren, da er eine objektivere Grundlage für Bewertungsvergleiche bietet als die Marktkapitalisierung allein.
- Ein Unternehmen mit hoher Verschuldung erscheint im EV teurer, eines mit viel Cash günstiger – auch wenn sie an der Börse gleich viel wert sind.
📘 Nettoverschuldung
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettoverschuldung zeigt, wie viele Schulden nach Abzug des verfügbaren Cashs tatsächlich verbleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen von Fremdkapital abhängig ist – und wie gut es in der Lage ist, seine Schulden kurzfristig zu bedienen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige oder negative Nettoverschuldung bedeutet hohe finanzielle Stabilität.
- Unternehmen mit viel Cash und geringer Verschuldung sind besser gerüstet für Krisen.
- Eine hohe Nettoverschuldung erhöht das Risiko – besonders bei steigenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
📘 Cash
📈 Was ist das?
Der Cashbestand zeigt, wie viele liquide Mittel einem Unternehmen sofort zur Verfügung stehen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Er gibt Auskunft über die finanzielle Flexibilität: Ein hoher Cashbestand ermöglicht Investitionen, Rückkäufe oder Krisenresistenz.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Cashbestand zeigt finanzielle Stärke und Handlungsspielraum.
- Cash kann für Investitionen, Schuldentilgung oder Aktienrückkäufe genutzt werden.
- Allerdings: Zu viel ungenutztes Kapital kann auch auf mangelnde Investitionsideen hinweisen.
📘 Anzahl ausstehender Aktien
📈 Was ist das?
Die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien gibt an, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell im Umlauf sind und von Investoren gehalten werden.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die Grundlage für viele Kennzahlen wie Gewinn je Aktie (EPS), Marktkapitalisierung oder KGV.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Je weniger Aktien im Umlauf sind, desto höher fällt z. B. der Gewinn je Aktie aus – wichtig für Bewertung und Dividendenrendite.
- Aktienrückkäufe verringern die Anzahl ausstehender Aktien – und steigern den Wert je Aktie.
- Kapitalerhöhungen haben den gegenteiligen Effekt: mehr Aktien → Verwässerung der bestehenden Anteile.
📘 Kurs-Gewinn-Verhältnis (KGV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KGV zeigt, wie oft der Gewinn pro Aktie im aktuellen Aktienkurs enthalten ist – also wie „teuer“ eine Aktie im Verhältnis zum Gewinn ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KGV gehört zu den bekanntesten Bewertungskennzahlen. Es hilft Anlegern einzuschätzen, ob eine Aktie im Vergleich zu ihrem Gewinn eher günstig oder teuer erscheint.
🧮 Berechnung
📊 KGV (TTM) = bezogen auf den Gewinn der letzten 12 Monate (Trailing Twelve Months):🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KGV kann auf eine günstige Bewertung hindeuten – oder auf Probleme im Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein hohes KGV kann Wachstumserwartungen widerspiegeln – oder eine überbewertete Aktie.
📘 Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis (KUV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KUV zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen – unabhängig vom Gewinn.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KUV ist besonders bei wachstumsstarken oder noch nicht profitablen Unternehmen hilfreich. Es zeigt, wie hoch der Umsatz an der Börse bewertet wird.
🧮 Berechnung
Marktkapitalisierung = 404,04 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 67,36 Mrd. $
Marktkapitalisierung = 404,04 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 90,69 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges KUV kann auf Unterbewertung hindeuten – oder auf schwache Margen.
- Ein hohes KUV kann hohe Erwartungen widerspiegeln – oder übermäßigen Optimismus.
- Besonders sinnvoll bei Wachstumsunternehmen, bei denen der Gewinn oder Free Cashflow (noch) keine Aussagekraft hat.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Umsatz (EV/Sales)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/Sales zeigt, wie viel Anleger für 1 € Umsatz eines Unternehmens zahlen, wenn man auch Schulden und Cash berücksichtigt – es ist eine kapitalstrukturbereinigte Version des KUV.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl eignet sich besonders für den Vergleich von Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Verschuldung – sie zeigt, wie teuer ein Unternehmen tatsächlich im Verhältnis zum Umsatz ist.
🧮 Berechnung
Enterprise Value = 501,69 Mrd. $ | Umsatz (TTM) = 67,36 Mrd. $
Enterprise Value = 501,69 Mrd. $ | Umsatz erwartet = 90,69 Mrd. $
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EV/Sales ist neutral gegenüber der Kapitalstruktur und eignet sich gut für Unternehmensvergleiche.
- Ein niedriges Verhältnis kann auf eine günstig bewertete Aktie hindeuten – ein hohes Verhältnis auf hohe Erwartungen oder Überbewertung.
- Besonders nützlich bei wachstumsstarken, noch nicht profitablen Firmen.
📘 Unternehmenswert zu Free Cashflow (EV/FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
EV/FCF zeigt, wie viele Jahre es dauern würde, bis ein Unternehmen seinen Unternehmenswert durch freien Cashflow „zurückverdient”.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Unternehmen auf Basis ihrer tatsächlichen Cash-Erträge zu bewerten – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder buchhalterischem Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriges EV/FCF deutet auf eine günstige Bewertung bei starker Cashgenerierung hin.
- Ein hohes EV/FCF kann entweder auf Optimismus oder auf temporär schwachen Cashflow hindeuten.
- Besonders hilfreich bei reifen, profitablen Unternehmen mit stabilen Cashflows.
📘 Kurs-Buchwert-Verhältnis (KBV)
📈 Was ist das?
Das KBV zeigt, wie hoch der Marktwert eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zu seinem bilanziellen Eigenkapital ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das KBV ist besonders bei Substanzwerten (z. B. Banken, Industrie) relevant. Es hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob ein Unternehmen unter oder über seinem buchhalterischen Vermögen bewertet ist.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein KBV unter 1 kann auf Unterbewertung oder schwache Rentabilität hindeuten.
- Ein KBV über 1 zeigt, dass der Markt dem Unternehmen Mehrwert über den Buchwert hinaus zuschreibt (z. B. Marken, Patente, Wachstum).
- Das KBV eignet sich besonders gut für Unternehmen mit stabilen, materiellen Vermögenswerten.
📘 Dividende je Aktie
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividende je Aktie zeigt, wie viel Geld ein Unternehmen pro Aktie an seine Aktionäre ausschüttet – typischerweise jährlich oder quartalsweise.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie ist die absolute Größe der Auszahlung je Aktie – wichtig für alle, die regelmäßige Erträge suchen oder Dividendenstrategien verfolgen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile oder wachsende Dividende je Aktie ist oft ein Zeichen für ein solides Geschäftsmodell.
- Die Dividende je Aktie allein sagt aber nichts über die Rendite – dafür ist auch der Aktienkurs relevant (→ Dividendenrendite).
- Langfristig steigende Dividenden sind oft ein sehr gutes Merkmal (z. B. Dividenden-Aristokraten).
📘 Dividendenrendite
📈 Was ist das?
Die Dividendenrendite zeigt, wie hoch die Dividende eines Unternehmens im Verhältnis zum Aktienkurs ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft dabei, Dividendenaktien vergleichbar zu machen – unabhängig vom absoluten Auszahlungsbetrag.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine stabile Dividendenrendite kann auf verlässliche Ausschüttungen hinweisen.
- Ein Vergleich der 1J- und 5J-Rendite hilft zu erkennen, ob das Dividendenwachstum mit dem Kurswachstum Schritt hält.
- Eine niedrige Rendite ist nicht zwingend negativ – sie kann auf starkes Kurswachstum hindeuten.
📘 Dividendenwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Dividendenwachstum zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen seine Dividende je Aktie über die Zeit gesteigert hat.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
5J: durchschnittliche jährliche Wachstumsrate (CAGR)
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Stetig steigende Dividenden gelten als Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und Aktionärsorientierung – besonders interessant für langfristige Investoren.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein stabiles Dividendenwachstum ist ein Zeichen nachhaltiger Ertragskraft.
- Ein hohes Dividendenwachstum kann ein erheblicher Hebel deiner Rendite sein:
- Wenn ein Unternehmen z. B. 1 € Dividende zahlt und diese über 5 Jahre jährlich um 15 % erhöht, bekommst du im 5. Jahr bereits 2 € je Aktie – doppelt so viel wie zu Beginn!
📘 Ausschüttungsquote (Payout)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Ausschüttungsquote zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Unternehmensgewinns (pro Aktie) als Dividende an die Aktionäre ausgeschüttet wird.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Quote hilft einzuschätzen, ob eine Dividende auf Dauer tragfähig ist – besonders im Verhältnis zum erzielten Gewinn.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine niedrige Ausschüttungsquote bedeutet: Das Unternehmen behält einen größeren Teil des Gewinns für Investitionen – typisch für Wachstumsunternehmen.
- Eine moderate Quote (z. B. 25–50 %) steht oft für ein gesundes Gleichgewicht zwischen Ausschüttung und Zukunftsinvestitionen.
- Hohe Ausschüttungsquoten können attraktiv wirken, sind aber riskanter, wenn die Gewinne schwanken oder sinken.
📘 Dividendensteigerungen in Folge (Erhöhungen)
📈 Was ist das?
Diese Kennzahl zeigt, wie viele Jahre in Folge ein Unternehmen seine Dividende pro Aktie erhöht hat – ohne Kürzung oder Aussetzung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein langer Track Record kontinuierlicher Erhöhungen spricht für Verlässlichkeit, solide Finanzen und aktionärsfreundliche Unternehmenspolitik.
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein langer Zeitraum mit Dividendensteigerungen stärkt das Vertrauen – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Solche Unternehmen gelten als verlässlich und planbar für Einkommensinvestoren.
- Je länger die Serie, desto stärker das Commitment gegenüber den Aktionären.
📘 Umsatz
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz zeigt, wie viel ein Unternehmen insgesamt mit seinen Produkten und Dienstleistungen verdient – also den Bruttoerlös vor Abzug von Kosten.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Umsatz ist eine der zentralen Kennzahlen zur Einschätzung der Unternehmensgröße, Marktstellung und Wachstumskraft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein wachsender Umsatz zeigt eine steigende Nachfrage und kann ein guter Frühindikator für Gewinnsteigerungen sein.
- Vergleiche von aktuellem und erwartetem Umsatz geben Hinweise auf das Marktumfeld und Analystenerwartungen.
- Wichtig: Starker Umsatz allein genügt nicht – auch Margen und Profitabilität zählen.
📘 EBITDA
📈 Was ist das?
EBITDA steht für „Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens, bereinigt um bilanztechnische und finanzierungsbedingte Effekte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBITDA ist eine verbreitete Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der operativen Leistungsfähigkeit – insbesondere bei kapitalintensiven Unternehmen oder im internationalen Vergleich.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes oder wachsendes EBITDA spricht für starke operative Erträge – unabhängig von Bilanzierung oder Steuerlast.
- EBITDA ist besonders nützlich, um Unternehmen branchenübergreifend zu vergleichen.
- Wichtig: EBITDA ist keine offizielle Gewinnkennzahl – Abschreibungen und Finanzierungskosten werden ausgeklammert.
📘 EBIT
📈 Was ist das?
EBIT steht für „Earnings Before Interest and Taxes“ – also Gewinn vor Zinsen und Steuern. Es zeigt das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Finanzierungs- und Steueraufwand.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EBIT ist eine zentrale Kennzahl zur Beurteilung der Profitabilität aus dem Kerngeschäft – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder Steuersystem.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hohes EBIT deutet auf ein profitables Kerngeschäft hin – vor Zinslasten oder steuerlichen Effekten.
- Es erlaubt objektivere Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen mit unterschiedlicher Finanzierung.
- Im Vergleich mit EBITDA zeigt EBIT bereits den Einfluss von Abschreibungen auf das operative Ergebnis.
📘 Nettogewinn
📈 Was ist das?
Der Nettogewinn ist der verbleibende Jahresüberschuss (oder -fehlbetrag) eines Unternehmens – nach Abzug aller Kosten, Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Nettogewinn ist die zentrale Erfolgskennzahl – er zeigt, wie profitabel ein Unternehmen nach allen Kosten tatsächlich arbeitet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein steigender Nettogewinn zeigt, dass das Unternehmen effizient wirtschaftet – trotz aller Kosten.
- Die Entwicklung des Gewinns beeinflusst z. B. direkt das KGV und weitere Kennzahlen.
- Im Zeitverlauf lässt sich ablesen, wie stabil und profitabel ein Geschäftsmodell wirklich ist.
📘 Free Cashflow (FCF)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow gibt Aufschluss über die echte finanzielle Stärke eines Unternehmens – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln. Er zeigt, wie viel Spielraum für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldenabbau besteht.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
FCF reflects a company’s real financial strength – regardless of accounting profits. It shows how much flexibility a company has for dividends, share buybacks, or debt reduction.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow bedeutet, dass ein Unternehmen echte Finanzkraft besitzt – unabhängig vom bilanzierten Gewinn.
- Er ist oft die solideste Grundlage für nachhaltige Dividenden und Aktienrückkäufe.
- Sinkender FCF kann ein Warnsignal sein – auch wenn der Gewinn stabil aussieht.
📘 Umsatzwachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Umsatzwachstum zeigt, wie stark sich die Erlöse eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert haben – tatsächlich (TTM) und auf Prognosebasis (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (Umsatz erwartet ÷ Umsatz Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein wachsender Umsatz ist ein zentrales Signal für steigende Nachfrage, Geschäftsausweitung und Marktanteilsgewinne – besonders bei Wachstumsunternehmen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachstum ist der Motor langfristiger Wertsteigerung – besonders bei Technologie- und Wachstumsaktien.
- Wichtig ist nicht nur das aktuelle Wachstum, sondern auch dessen Nachhaltigkeit.
- Prognosen zeigen, ob Analysten weiteres Potenzial erwarten – oder eine Verlangsamung.
📘 EBITDA-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBITDA-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBITDA ÷ EBITDA Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Ein steigendes EBITDA ist ein Zeichen für verbesserte operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Finanzierungsstruktur oder Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Starkes EBITDA-Wachstum signalisiert operative Effizienz und Skalierung – besonders relevant in Wachstumsphasen.
- EBITDA-Wachstum ist ein Frühindikator für Margen- und Gewinnentwicklung – sollte aber stets im Zusammenhang mit Umsatz und EBIT betrachtet werden.
📘 EBIT Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das EBIT-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark das operative Ergebnis eines Unternehmens (nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern) im Vergleich zum Vorjahr gewachsen ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwartetes EBIT ÷ EBIT Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Erwartetes Wachstum basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein direkter Indikator für die wirtschaftliche Entwicklung des operativen Geschäfts – unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (Abschreibungen).
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Steigendes EBIT signalisiert wachsende operative Rentabilität – auch unter Berücksichtigung von Abschreibungen.
- Das EBIT-Wachstum ist ein wichtiges Maß zur Beurteilung von Geschäftsmodellen mit hohen Investitionskosten.
- Im Zusammenspiel mit Umsatz- und EBITDA-Wachstum ergibt sich ein umfassendes Bild zur operativen Entwicklung.
📘 Nettogewinn-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Nettogewinn-Wachstum zeigt, wie stark der Jahresüberschuss eines Unternehmens gegenüber dem Vorjahr gestiegen oder gesunken ist – sowohl tatsächlich (TTM) als auch auf Basis von Prognosen (erwartet).
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Erwartet = (erwarteter Nettogewinn ÷ Nettogewinn Vorjahr − 1) × 100
Der erwartete Wert basiert auf Analystenschätzungen für das laufende Geschäftsjahr.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der Gewinn ist die entscheidende Ergebnisgröße für ein Unternehmen. Ein wachsender Nettogewinn deutet auf steigende Effizienz, stabile Kostenkontrolle und nachhaltige Ertragskraft hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Wachsender Nettogewinn stärkt die Bewertung, Dividendenfähigkeit und Kursfantasie.
- Stagnierender oder rückläufiger Gewinn trotz Umsatzwachstum kann auf Margendruck hinweisen.
📘 Free Cashflow-Wachstum
📈 Was ist das?
Das Free-Cashflow-Wachstum zeigt, wie sich der freie Mittelzufluss eines Unternehmens im Vergleich zum Vorjahr verändert hat – also der Betrag, der nach allen operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Free Cashflow ist der echte, verfügbare Geldzufluss. Wachstum in diesem Bereich ist ein Zeichen für finanzielle Stärke und steigende Flexibilität bei Dividenden, Rückkäufen oder Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Sinkender Free Cashflow kann auf steigende Investitionen, höhere Kosten oder stagnierende operative Erträge hindeuten.
- Besonders bei Dividendenwerten ist das FCF-Wachstum wichtig – denn Dividenden werden letztlich aus dem verfügbaren Cash gezahlt.
- Ein negativer Trend sollte genauer analysiert werden – er ist nicht zwangsläufig schlecht, aber potenziell ein Warnsignal.
📘 Bruttomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Bruttomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug der direkten Herstellungskosten (Material, Produktion) als Bruttogewinn übrig bleibt – also der „Rohgewinn“ eines Unternehmens.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Auch: Bruttomarge = Bruttogewinn ÷ Umsatz × 100
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Bruttomarge gibt Aufschluss über die Profitabilität eines Produkts oder Geschäftsmodells vor Fixkosten, Steuern und Zinsen. Sie zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen produzieren oder einkaufen kann.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Bruttomarge deutet auf starke Preissetzungsmacht und effiziente Herstellung hin.
- Sinkende Bruttomargen können auf Kostensteigerungen oder Preisdruck hindeuten.
- Besonders im Vergleich zu Wettbewerbern liefert die Bruttomarge wertvolle Einblicke in die Geschäftsqualität.
📘 EBITDA-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBITDA-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz als operativer Gewinn vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) übrig bleibt. Sie misst die operative Effizienz – ohne Verzerrungen durch Finanzierung oder Buchwerte.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBITDA-Marge hilft zu verstehen, wie viel operativer Gewinn ein Unternehmen aus jedem Euro Umsatz erzielt – unabhängig von Kapitalstruktur oder steuerlichem Umfeld.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBITDA-Marge zeigt starke operative Ertragskraft – unabhängig von Bilanzierungseffekten.
- Die Marge ermöglicht gute Vergleiche zwischen Unternehmen und Branchen.
- Ein stabiler oder wachsender Wert kann auf effiziente Kostenkontrolle und Skalierbarkeit hindeuten.
📘 EBIT-Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die EBIT-Marge zeigt, wie viel Prozent des Umsatzes als operativer Gewinn nach Abschreibungen, aber vor Zinsen und Steuern übrig bleiben.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die EBIT-Marge misst die operative Ertragskraft eines Unternehmens unter Berücksichtigung der Kapitalintensität (z. B. Maschinen, Anlagen). Sie eignet sich gut zum Vergleich von Geschäftsmodellen mit unterschiedlich hohen Abschreibungen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe EBIT-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen auch nach Abschreibungen effizient arbeitet.
- Sie ist besonders relevant in kapitalintensiven Branchen.
- Langfristig stabile oder steigende Margen sind ein Zeichen wirtschaftlicher Stärke und Preissetzungsmacht.
📘 Nettomarge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Nettomarge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz am Ende als „Reingewinn“ übrig bleibt – also nach Abzug aller Kosten, Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Nettomarge gibt an, wie effizient ein Unternehmen über alle Stufen hinweg wirtschaftet. Sie zeigt, wie viel Gewinn tatsächlich je Euro Umsatz übrig bleibt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Nettomarge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nicht nur operativ stark ist, sondern auch seine Finanzierung und Steuerbelastung im Griff hat.
- Vergleiche mit Wettbewerbern geben Einblicke in die wirtschaftliche Qualität.
- Sinkende Nettomargen trotz Umsatzwachstum können ein Warnsignal sein – etwa für steigende Kosten oder sinkende Effizienz.
📘 Free Cashflow Marge
📈 Was ist das?
Die Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, wie viel vom Umsatz nach Abzug aller operativen Ausgaben und Investitionen tatsächlich als freier Mittelzufluss übrig bleibt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Marge misst die echte Liquidität, die ein Unternehmen erwirtschaftet – unabhängig von Bilanzierungsregeln oder Abschreibungen. Sie ist besonders relevant für Dividenden, Rückkäufe und Investitionen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Free-Cashflow-Marge zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen nachhaltig liquide Mittel erwirtschaftet.
- Sie ist ein starkes Signal für finanzielle Stabilität und Ausschüttungspotenzial.
- Wichtig ist der langfristige Trend – sinkende Werte können auf steigende Investitionen oder rückläufige operative Effizienz hindeuten.
📘 Eigenkapitalquote
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalquote zeigt, wie hoch der Anteil des Eigenkapitals an der Bilanzsumme eines Unternehmens ist – also wie stark es sich aus eigenen Mitteln finanziert.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote steht für finanzielle Stabilität, Krisenfestigkeit und gute Bonität. Sie ist besonders relevant bei der Beurteilung der Verschuldung.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalquote signalisiert finanzielle Stabilität – besonders in Krisenzeiten.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf ein höheres Risiko oder eine aggressive Verschuldung hinweisen.
- Wichtig: Die Eigenkapitalquote sollte immer gemeinsam mit der Eigenkapitalrendite betrachtet werden. Nur so lässt sich beurteilen, ob ein Unternehmen nicht nur solide, sondern auch effizient wirtschaftet.
📘 Eigenkapitalrendite (ROE)
📈 Was ist das?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen mit dem Kapital seiner Aktionäre arbeitet – also wie viel Gewinn es pro Euro Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Eigenkapitalrendite ist eine zentrale Rentabilitätskennzahl. Sie hilft Anlegern zu erkennen, ob das Unternehmen eine attraktive Verzinsung auf das eingesetzte Eigenkapital erwirtschaftet.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Eine hohe Eigenkapitalrendite spricht für ein starkes, effizientes Geschäftsmodell.
- Besonders interessant ist sie bei kapitalintensiven Firmen oder solchen mit hoher Eigenkapitalquote.
- Wichtig: Ein sehr hoher ROE kann auch auf hohe Schulden hinweisen – daher sollte sie immer im Kontext mit der Eigenkapitalquote betrachtet werden.
📘 Return on Capital Employed (ROCE)
📈 Was ist das?
ROCE misst die Gesamtrentabilität eines Unternehmens – also wie effizient es das eingesetzte Kapital (Eigen- und Fremdkapital) zur Gewinnerzielung nutzt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Das eingesetzte Kapital ist das gesamte betriebsnotwendige Kapital, unabhängig von der Finanzierungsquelle.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROCE eignet sich besonders gut für den Vergleich unterschiedlich finanzierter Unternehmen. Es zeigt, wie effektiv ein Unternehmen Kapital investiert – unabhängig von der Kapitalstruktur.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROCE zeigt, dass ein Unternehmen sein Kapital effizient einsetzt – unabhängig davon, ob es durch Eigen- oder Fremdkapital finanziert ist.
- Je höher der ROCE im Vergleich zu ähnlichen Unternehmen, desto mehr Wert schafft das Unternehmen mit seinem investierten Kapital.
- Besonders wichtig ist der ROCE bei Firmen mit hohen Investitionen – z. B. in Industrie, Energie oder Infrastruktur.
📘 Return on Invested Capital (ROIC)
📈 Was ist das?
ROIC zeigt, wie effizient ein Unternehmen das Kapital investiert, das langfristig im operativen Geschäft gebunden ist – unabhängig davon, ob es aus Eigen- oder Fremdkapital stammt.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
- NOPAT = „Net Operating Profit After Taxes“
- Investiertes Kapital = operatives Vermögen abzüglich nicht-verzinster Schulden
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
ROIC ist eine der präzisesten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung der Kapitalrendite – besonders im Vergleich zur Eigenkapitalrendite, weil es Verzerrungen durch Schulden vermeidet. Er zeigt, ob ein Unternehmen Mehrwert für alle Kapitalgeber schafft.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher ROIC zeigt, wie gut ein Unternehmen mit dem tatsächlich investierten (betriebsnotwendigen) Kapital wirtschaftet.
- Im Unterschied zu ROCE wird nur Kapital betrachtet, das wirklich zur Finanzierung operativer Aktivitäten dient – und verzinst werden muss.
- Besonders hilfreich, um die Kapitalrendite von Unternehmen mit viel „überschüssigem“ Kapital oder zinsfreien Verbindlichkeiten realistisch zu vergleichen.
📘 Verschuldungsgrad (Leverage Ratio)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Verschuldungsgrad zeigt, wie stark ein Unternehmen durch verzinsliche Schulden (z. B. Kredite und Anleihen) im Verhältnis zum Eigenkapital finanziert ist.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Die Kennzahl hilft, das finanzielle Risiko und die Abhängigkeit von Fremdkapital zu beurteilen. Ein hoher Verschuldungsgrad kann die Eigenkapitalrendite steigern – birgt aber auch erhöhte Risiken bei Zinsanstiegen oder Liquiditätsengpässen.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Verschuldungsgrad steht für finanzielle Stabilität und Unabhängigkeit.
- Ein hoher Wert kann auf erhöhte Risiken hinweisen – insbesondere bei schwankenden Zinsen oder konjunkturellen Schwächen.
- Wichtig: Immer im Kontext zur Branche und Kapitalintensität bewerten.
📘 Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS)
📈 Was ist das?
Das Ergebnis je Aktie (EPS) zeigt, wie viel Gewinn auf eine einzelne Aktie entfällt – und ist eine der wichtigsten Kennzahlen zur Bewertung von Unternehmen.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die verwässerte Aktienanzahl berücksichtigt auch potenzielle neue Aktien, etwa durch Optionen, Wandelanleihen oder andere Umtauschrechte.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
EPS bildet die Basis für viele Bewertungskennzahlen wie KGV, PEG oder Payout Ratio. Es macht den Gewinn für Aktionäre vergleichbar – unabhängig von der Unternehmensgröße.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- EPS hilft, die Profitabilität pro Aktie zu erfassen – und ist besonders wichtig im Zeitvergleich oder im Vergleich mit Analystenschätzungen.
- Steigendes EPS kann ein Zeichen für stabiles Wachstum oder Aktienrückkäufe sein.
- Wichtig: Verwende verwässertes EPS für realistische Bewertungen – besonders bei stark aktienbasierten Vergütungssystemen.
📘 Free Cashflow je Aktie (FCF je Aktie)
📈 Was ist das?
Der Free Cashflow je Aktie zeigt, wie viel freier Mittelzufluss einem Unternehmen pro Aktie zur Verfügung steht – nach Investitionen, aber vor Dividenden oder Schuldentilgung.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Der FCF je Aktie zeigt, wie viel liquide Mittel pro Aktie tatsächlich im Unternehmen verbleiben – wichtig für Dividenden, Aktienrückkäufe oder Schuldentilgung. Im Gegensatz zum Gewinn ist er schwerer manipulierbar und daher besonders aussagekräftig.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Free Cashflow je Aktie ist ein Zeichen für hohe finanzielle Flexibilität.
- Er zeigt, wie viel Kapital ein Unternehmen effektiv einsetzen oder ausschütten kann.
- Besonders relevant für dividendenstarke Unternehmen oder solche mit starker Kapitalrendite.
📘 Short Interest
📈 Was ist das?
Short Interest zeigt, wie viele Aktien eines Unternehmens aktuell leerverkauft wurden – also von Investoren geliehen und verkauft, in der Erwartung fallender Kurse.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Der Wert zeigt den Anteil der Aktien, der aktuell auf fallende Kurse spekuliert wird.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Short Interest dient als Stimmungsindikator: Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Skepsis oder negative Erwartungen gegenüber dem Unternehmen hin – kann aber auch zu einem „Short Squeeze“ führen, wenn der Kurs plötzlich steigt.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein niedriger Short Interest deutet auf Vertrauen in das Unternehmen hin.
- Ein hoher Wert kann ein Warnsignal sein – oder eine Chance, wenn sich die Stimmung dreht.
- Besonders spannend in volatilen Märkten oder vor wichtigen Quartalszahlen.
📘 Employees
📈 Was ist das?
Die Mitarbeiteranzahl zeigt, wie viele Personen ein Unternehmen weltweit beschäftigt – ein Indikator für Größe, Struktur und Geschäftsmodell.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Sie hilft bei der Einschätzung von Skaleneffekten, Effizienz und Personalkosten. Zusammen mit Umsatz und Gewinn lassen sich Kennzahlen wie Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ableiten.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Viele Mitarbeiter bedeuten große operative Komplexität – aber auch hohes Umsatzpotenzial.
- Produktivität je Mitarbeiter ist ein wichtiger Indikator für Effizienz.
- Besonders spannend bei stark wachsenden Tech- oder Industrieunternehmen.
📘 Umsatz je Mitarbeiter
📈 Was ist das?
Der Umsatz je Mitarbeiter zeigt, wie viel Erlös ein Unternehmen durchschnittlich pro Beschäftigtem erwirtschaftet – eine Kennzahl für Effizienz und Produktivität.
🧮 Wie wird es berechnet?
Die Mitarbeiterzahl stammt in der Regel aus dem letzten verfügbaren Jahresbericht.
🏛️ Wofür ist es wichtig?
Diese Kennzahl hilft, Geschäftsmodelle zu vergleichen – insbesondere zwischen arbeitsintensiven und technologiegetriebenen Unternehmen. Ein hoher Wert deutet auf Automatisierung, Effizienz oder hohen Wertschöpfungsanteil hin.
🧮 Berechnung
🎯 Was bedeutet das für Anleger?
- Ein hoher Umsatz je Mitarbeiter spricht für ein skalierbares und margenstarkes Geschäftsmodell.
- Ein niedriger Wert kann auf arbeitsintensive Prozesse oder geringere Wertschöpfung hinweisen.
- Besonders hilfreich beim Vergleich von Tech- vs. Industrieunternehmen.
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1. Management Discussion
Well, good day, everyone, and welcome to the Oracle Corporation Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Ken Bond. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, Lisa, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Oracle's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are our Chief Executive Officer, Mike Sicilia; Chief Executive Officer, Clay Magouyrk, and Chief Financial Officer, Hilary Maxson.
A copy of the press release, including financial results, tables, supplemental financial metrics and guidance are now available from the Investor Relations website. Also is a slide deck being introduced this quarter, which you'll see momentarily, a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation, other supplemental financial information and list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently. These items will be available after today's call.
As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, and we will make some important comments around factors relating to our business. These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments. And finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events.
Before taking any questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks. And with that, I'll turn the call to Hilary.
Thanks, Ken, everyone. Great to be here with you today. And as a CFO, I thought I'd start with a few thoughts on why I'm so excited to join Oracle at this time. I said my career all around the world by companies that use technology and data to drive transformation, both internally and for customers. And I believe that the most valuable transformational change fits as a just deposition of the physical and virtual worlds across business models, from infrastructure and enterprise software. Also understands that intersection and is now uniquely positioned for one of the most significant technology transitions we've seen in decades. Various 2 companies can help customers across the entire technology stack from the cloud infrastructure that powers AI workloads to the mission-critical applications that run their businesses.
Oracle -- plus, this is a company with deep technical expertise, differentiated technology and a long history of helping customers turn technology innovation into tangible business value. And now I've only been here for 2 months, nothing I've seen has reinforced my confidence in the company's strategy, execution and opportunity ahead. I'm excited to be part of the team and look forward to helping Oracle capitalize on the opportunities in front of us to drive return on investment and shareholder value. And as we pursue these opportunities, we'll remain focused on disciplined capital allocation, maintaining a strong balance sheet and preserving our investment-grade credit rating.
With that, let me turn to our Q4 and fiscal year '26 results. And like Ken said, we've introduced a short presentation to accompany our earnings call, so you can follow along with the numbers and the comments we'll make today. In our of Q4, it was a record quarter, driven by strength in both our cloud infrastructure and cloud apps business.
Revenue was $19.2 billion, up 21% in U.S. stockers. Cloud infrastructure revenue grew 93%, reflecting strong demand for both AM workloads and our database services, and cloud was up double digit at plus 10%. And Mike later will give more detail on these businesses in just a moment.
Our net operating income increased 22% in U.S. dollars to $8.6 billion, driven by our strong revenue progression. Our operating margin increased slightly with our gross margin declining driven by impacts from ramping up our data centers and the acceleration in our infrastructure revenue.
This was more than offset in the quarter by a reduction in operating costs and for -- access the lines in our P&L, starting with sales and marketing due to efficiency actions in our cost structure. Our North EPS reached $2.11, an increase of 24% in U.S. dollars for the quarter -- onetime net gain on investment. Excluding our non-GAAP EPS increased by 20%.
Turning to the full year, we surpassed revenues of $67 million for the first time which translated into strong non-GAAP operating income of $29 billion, up 16% in U.S. dollars for the year. Our non-GAAP EPS was up 27% in net dollars to $7.63, including onetime gains on investment. Excluding these gains, our non-GAAP EPS was $6.83.
For the full year, our gross margin stepped down around 5 points as expected as we start to see the impacts from the build-out of our infrastructure business, the acceleration in its revenues primarily offset by lower operating costs as a percentage of revenue, driven by operating efficiencies.
All of this translated into strong cash flow from operations of $32 million, up 54%. We did continue with our program of capital investment tied to unlocking the strong growth opportunities in front of us. Our net cash outlay for capital expenditures for the full year was $48 million, taking into account equity payments and timing impact of around $8 [ billion ].
You can see the table showing the details of net cash outlay for CapEx in our press release. We think this measure is important to better understand our funding needs. And our remaining performance obligations, or RPO, finished $638 million, up [ 356% ]. This unprecedented level of RPO provides exceptional visibility into our future revenue growth all supported by some long-term contractual customer commitments and reflects the strong customer demand we see across both AI infrastructure and cloud services.
To give a bit more detail on our RPO, we expect 12% to be recognized in the next 12 months and another 34% between 13 and 36 months. And these percentages are both expected to accelerate over the coming quarters based on our current long-term outlook. Mike will now get into a bit more detail on our cloud businesses, and then I'll be back with our outlook for fiscal year '27.
Thank you, Hilary, and welcome to Oracle. So I'm going to cover our cloud apps and cloud database business in a bit more detail both of which performed quite well in Q4. We're on the front of one of the most testing times in the technology business.
Our customers are now focused on how to leverage AI in their own businesses. They want AI to increase productivity, enhance customer service, and create real competitive advantages. So let's go quickly and within their existing budget open.
Oracle is indeed advantage is that we deliver the applications, the data, the infrastructure, the AI tooling and the industry expertise together. That combination invariably puts us at the center of customer conversations, whether they're existing Oracle customers or not. And our customers have moved past the expertise with AI.
They are ready to implement enterprise rate complete agentic solutions to help run their businesses. Over the past year, we have delivered more than 1,000 AI agents across our application suites. These e-based offerings will reason decide and execute work across processes.
So the quickest, most affordable and most productive way, customers can begin to consuming AI is just to continue using Oracle applications. since every 3 months again more and more of the AI features built for them and we're ready to do. This is a major shift in enterprise software, and Oracle is uniquely positioned to be good. And you can see it in our Q4 results. orchard applications generated revenues of $4.1 billion, which is up 10%, and our SaaS deferred revenue was up 16% in the quarter. Across the company, we took thousands of customers like last quarter, over 300 infusion alone.
Acceleron adopted our utilities platform to manage operations. Bright County share software linked with our Public Safety suite. Westfield Insurance, implemented Fusion ERP and Mirage Bank with life of the work banking just to name a few. All of these customers are upgrading to a better and modern applications platform that also comes with AI built right in. In Q4, we also continued our electronic health market deployment at the United States Department of Veterans Affairs. In Q4, we added 4 VA medical centers in Michigan and in early June, added another 4 VA medical centers in Ohio. Oracle now supports 14 VA medical centers serving 29,000 clinicians and 500,000 [ beds ] across the United States.
Okay. While not part of our Q4 bookings, United States -- Office of Personnel Management today announced an agency-wide award to Oracle for Fusion HCM. So this is obviously a strong start for us in our FY '27 in applications business.
In addition to discussions around AI in our applications, I'm also having very interesting conversations with our customers around leveraging their own proprietary data sets with AI. Much of this data already sits in an Oracle database or is generated by work applications. For many enterprises interfering against decades of rich operations data is where the benefits of AI. Compound exponentially.
Oracle's full stack offerings allow customers to get up and running quickly, leveraging AI together with their private data sets. This is like Claro, a major telecommunications provider in Latin America chose OCI, field services applications and our AHA data platform to automate customer service for their 30 million subscribers this quarter. U.K. National Health Services share business services, owners the Brazilian retailer and QXO, the fastest-growing building products distributor in the other states. Combined AI-ready oral infrastructure or database products with Oracle applications to move their businesses forward. Again, just to name a few.
Last quarter, we also released a long list of new AI functionality in the Oracle database. Here are just 2 examples. The Oracle AI agent memory is a library that help developers build agents that can remember reason and act with enterprise context. Oracle Deep data security as data access rules at the database level. This protects against both authorized access, it limits precisely what data a user -- and any AI agent acting on their behalf and see we're act upon. All of these innovations I've just described and many more are available in our cloud our partners' clouds and in our customers' environments.
In Q4, our cloud database business revenue grew by 29%, with multi -- growing much faster. Multi revenue was up 404% year-over-year, and bookings were up 325% year-over-year. One example of an enterprise using a wide range of Oracle technologies in Vodafone who turned on us in Q4 to consolidate and modernize their operations.
Vodafone selected OCI dedicated region in their data centers, our multi-cloud database offering and a partner cloud, and our applications to reduce costs and run their processes faster, in some cases, up to 60% faster.
Finally, we are working with our customers to deliver quick ROI within their AI budgets. To do so, we are simplifying how customers consume and pay for agenda capabilities. Our new agented pricing aligns with customer value.
Now much of our AI innovation in our core applications continues to be included at no extra charge. However, customers can also purchase additional agent capacity and a simple, predictable way by purchasing bundles of tokens that can use proper application suites. We're also introducing outcome-based commercial models that align pricing directly to the value derived.
For example, in a few agents that are priced based on the number of candidates screened more hospitality upsale agents priced on the percentage of end consumer upsale transactions. In Q4, we started a limited rollout of our toping bundles and had 33 customers like Aon Services Corporation and Liberty Energy, repurchased tokens that have access to more advanced reasoning and bottles. All of this helps our customers control their costs and align their setting with the value being generated.
And with that, I will turn it over to Clay.
Thanks, Mike. Okay. You just heard from Mike about our applications and database businesses. Oracle has been in these businesses for decades, and they continue to impress us because of their ability to continually grow aggregate margin dollars, through a combination of durable differentiation and increasing market size. I want to share how we see our infrastructure business in that same category and the evidence that enforces that move.
Okay. differentiation comes in many forms. Technological innovation, supply chain execution, operational ability and -- we created OCI as the most highly secure, highest performance, most flexible, lowest cost infrastructure available anywhere. We deliver that through innovation across all layers from deploying the smallest and the largest clouds to inventing technologies like Acceleron that provide the highest performance and lowest cost networks.
We combine the power of OCI infusion applications to implement an incredibly efficient and flexible supply chain. We architect across data center design, power distribution, data hole layout and networking to deliver the most efficient and the most flexible infrastructure available team wear.
Oracle had a long track record of durable differentiation. This is because we know the real differentiator is the organization, the people, the company itself that can adapt to new requirements, invest solutions and deliver them to customers rent. OCI has been the fastest-growing class provider for years. And now with AI infrastructure, we've shown to everyone the power of the organization we built, the technology we created and the value we're delivering to customers.
OCI is continually releasing new services, hardware, networks and cloud regions to ensure we are always the best place for our customers' infrastructure workloads. Cloud infrastructure has become a very large market because of the ever-growing demand for server sign computing. AI infrastructure makes the existing cloud infrastructure market looks small. Everything we see shows this market size is trillions of dollars per year. Combined with our previously outlined 30% to 40% margin profile, OCI should grow into an extremely large and extremely profitable business.
These beliefs are supported by compelling and multiplying amounted evidence. We signed $67 billion in AI infrastructure contract this quarter, the majority of which was either bring-your-own hardware or prepaid. This increases our combination of bring-your-own hardware or prepaid customer contracts $75 billion. with those contracts having no degradation in margin compared to our other contracts.
Customers are showing they chose OCI to deliver their infrastructure, even when they are bringing the capital themselves. Design, delivery and operation of this large-scale infrastructure is extremely demanding.
Q4 finalized an impressive FY '26 where we delivered more than 1.2 gigawatts of customers. Our pace of delivery continues to accelerate. With our FY '27 Q1 delivery approaching 1 gigawatt, near the same capacity as we've delivered in the previous 4 quarters combat. There will be many winners name, and our strategy is to have them all those customers. We continue to diversify across our largest customers with 4 customers contracting for more than $8 billion this quarter.
Our infrastructure is fundamentally multi-tenant, and we continually allocate capacity between customers. In Q4, 35,000 GBUs from 59 separate customers were up -- 49% of those customers renewed for 92% of those GPUs. That doesn't mean though that 8% of those GPUs arrived. And both of those GPUs themselves were subsequently sold to other customers in the same quarter.
Our global GBU utilization rate is 97.5%. It's also true to -- AI here to stay. AI is delivering value on multiple fronts, but the most clear and obvious is a into coating. This is an area where we have a front row seat as both the provider and the consumer. Existed coating tools has completely changed at Oracle operates, and we see no slowdown in our own demand for such capabilities. The same is true for all the customers and partners we work with. The demand for AI infrastructure in this domain as well is enormous, ignoring the many, many other growth areas.
Okay. Now before the end, let's look at a summary of our 5 largest sites and the significant progress we're seeing across polite. To begin, let's look at Abilene, Texas. Abilene, Texas today has delivered 42% of the total capacity. An additional 35% of capacity will be delivered in the next 90 days, was the remainder delivering in the subsequent quarter.
Moving forward to Shackleford, Texas. We contracted this in August of 2025. Customer delivery begins in the first half of FY '27 -- sorry, first half of calendar year '27. 115 megawatts of power capacity already available online, more than 1 month ahead of schedule. If we take a look at [ Don and ] County, New Mexico, we contracted this in September of 2025. Customer delivery begins in the first half of calendar year '27 as well. Power design is based on gigawatts of clean, energy-efficient bloom fuel cells.
We look at Saline, Michigan, we contracted this in October 2025 and Customer delivery began in the second half of 2027. The network core is ahead of schedule and delivered at the end of this calendar year.
And then to the final slide, I want to touch on [ Port Washington -- Port ] Washington, Wisconsin. This was contracted in September of 2025 and delivery begins in the second half of calendar year '27. I think you can see from all of the pictures the massive progress that we're making across a very large number of sites. It's an incredible time to be a technology and to have the privilege of doing that in a company like Oracle. It's especially fun to have a decided view of the birth of a new business that can join the likes of our applications and database businesses. Hopefully, the lease and the data points give you some insight into why we are so excited about [ OCI ] and where that's going to take work.
And with that, I'm going to hand it back to Hilary.
Thanks, Clay. Before we get to our fiscal year '27 and Q1 guidance, I'd like to share some comments on our funding expectations. We already mentioned throughout the call, the compelling opportunities we see at Oracle based on our portfolio positioning. And our strong Q4 results reflect this well. customer demand and our growing visibility into future revenues is what underpins the long-term financial outlook we shared at our most recent Analyst Day of plus 31% revenue CAGR and plus 28% EPS CAGR through our fiscal year 2030.
In order to unlock this unique growth opportunity, we started a program of capital investments. We'll continue those investments in our fiscal year 2027, with an expected net cash outlay for capital expenditures of around $70 million. This includes customer prepayments and timing impacts expected at around $20 billion to $25 billion, so our reported CapEx will be higher by this amount.
Importantly, these investments are being driven by committed customer demand reflected in our record RPO, giving us confidence in our long-term outlook as well as strong returns on the capital we're deploying. As Clay already mentioned, this demand is allowing us to garner customer prepayments and bring your own hardware at similar or better margins than the rest of our contracts. To support our capital investment program, we expect to raise around $40 million in debt and equity in our fiscal year '27 and that includes our already announced aftermarket equity issuance.
We don't anticipate raising additional debt funding in calendar year 2026 -- our fiscal year 2027 guidance, you can start to see the strong translation of our RPO into revenues with expected growth in our total revenues of plus 34% in constant currency, surpassing the 5-year revenue CAGR included in our long-term outlook. Our fiscal year 2027 gross margin will step down due to timing for the ramp-up of our data center projects into their full revenue contribution, what impact from mix. What these investments are creating pressure on the near term to gross margins in our infrastructure business, we expect margin performance in infrastructure to improve rapidly as we reach full contractual revenue levels at our data centers.
Operating costs, we expect to be slightly negative year-over-year in dollar terms due to efficiency actions driving improved operating leverage. Net-net, we expect our non-GAAP EPS for the year to be $8.05, up 18% in constant currency, excluding the net onetime investment gains we booked in fiscal year '26 from [ AMP ] and Bloom Energy.
I'll finish with guidance for our Q1 2027. In Q1, we expect growth in total revenues of between 27% and 29% in U.S. dollars Of that, we expect growth in cloud revenues of between 58% and 64%. In non-GAAP EPS, we expect between $1.72 and $1.76, up between 17% and 20% in U.S. dollar. And anticipate revenues and earnings will accelerate in the second half of the year as we bring further megawatts online at our data centers to fulfill customer demand.
I look forward to speaking further with all of you over the next 2 weeks and months leading into our Q1 and that our next Oracle Investor Day scheduled for October 28 in Las Vegas.
With that, I'll turn the call back to Ken for the Q&A.
Thank you, Hilary. Lisa, do you please pull the audience for any questions they might have.
[Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from John DiFucci from Guggenheim Securities.
2. Question Answer
Thank you to -- my question is a question that I've dealt with all this quarter. And Clay, that was a ton of information you gave, which is helpful, really helpful. But there's one little nuance here. You spent a little bit more this quarter on CapEx than we expected, and that's sort of the topic a little bit. It adds into it. We know we all know that component costs have gone up a lot, especially memory. It's grown significantly, right?
And even though you said that most 3Q and 4Q contract or large-scale AI contracts that were prepaid for GPUs, you have a lot of other contracts. This has been an issue for a lot of software companies and large cloud companies. I don't think it's as much of an issue for you given my understanding of how you construct your contracts. But can you explain that to investors like when it comes to these very long-term contracts like between you and the end customer and the suppliers.
Sure. Yes. Good question, John. Good to talk to you again, always Look, I'll answer I think that in 2 parts. In terms of the capital expenditures, at least from what we're seeing in Q4 any increase in CapEx that is not due to component prices from our perspective, that's largely around timing, right? I mean, part of my job is to figure out ways to actually accelerate CapEx it's -- tough life. My job is starting to spend the money a little bit faster, so I can get ramped revenue sometimes. So I don't see that as related to component prices. Now talking about component prices in general.
Look, I think everyone knows that memory prices have definitely gone up at the steep prices, hard drive prices, et cetera. So one of the things that we do, John, it's actually quite simple. When we're selling stuff. In a time period where we have certainty, but there will be certainty because the capacity is already deployed or we have certainty because we have lost price is across the spectrum, whether it be space and power costs, energy costs, people costs, component costs.
When we know those costs, we will then do fixed-price contracts. Time that we don't know those costs because it's out far in the future or we have too much supply chain risk, whether that be due to just the way the world works or a lack of things being locked in. We then do not do fish price contracts with our customers and we have a mechanism whereby those costs end up being flipped.
So I don't like it when costs go up. Our customers don't like able to cost go up. But honestly, I don't think our suppliers do love to -- they'd love to be able to deal with everything we want. But when the costs do go up, we have, I think, a very robust set of mechanisms ensure that Oracle is not sitting there with reduced margins.
That is really helpful. It makes a ton of sense. And if I could, just a quick one, Hilary, you kind of alluded to what I'm going to ask. But this is a second question, I get a ton of questions on. You have long-term targets out there. You're a new CFO, right? And congrats. It's great to have you on the line. But can you just comment on those long-term targets at all? I know you've only been there a couple of months.
Yes. I think -- and that would the intention of putting a slide. I think that we're reconfirming those long-term targets and the in the sense of the CAGRs that we put into the slide today. So we feel comfortable with that. And you can see the RPO building to the level that you can start to have a lot of belief, I think, in those long-term targets exactly. So full reconfirmation from my side on the long-term targets.
The next question comes from Brad Zelnick, Deutsche Bank.
Great. And Hilary, welcome to Oracle. Hilary, as you come to Oracle from a capital-intensive business in another industry, how would you suggest that investors evaluate Oracle's progress and returns during this period of heavy investment.
Yes. So the way I think about it, and as we said in the earnings call, we feel the returns for the infrastructure business. So that CPU and GPU business are quite strong. probably from a back even envelope standpoint, the way I think about return from that business model is in return on invested capital. And what we see is return on invested capital in the high 20s at a steady state once the revenues have ramped for large projects at the project level. And that doesn't take into account upside like who knows if the GPUs don't need to be replaced over the long term and things like that. Just purely in the steady state, where we're at the steady state of the contracts that we have.
And as we're generally able to preserve and improve margins in the case of things like bring your own hardware, the ROIC structures, the ROIC for those will be even higher. And again, that back of envelope, I'm just calculating return on invested capital is after-tax operating margin plus depreciation divided by gross investments, so total gross CapEx at the project level. Maybe that gives you a little bit of an idea. And of course, we're happy to talk more about that over the next couple of quarters.
That's really helpful, Hilary. And congrats to the whole team on the execution this quarter. nice shop to everybody.
Next, we'll take a question from Mark Moerdler from Bernstein.
And also congrats on the quarter and or welcome, and we're really looking forward to working with you. Clay and Hilary, with so many vendors entering the market to deliver AI data centers, including the Neo Cloud, SpaceX, which is now going to build data centers in Spain, et cetera, where does Oracle see itself in the competitive landscape? And how do you see that increase in capacity impacting your ability to, one, retain customers renew contracts to capture new customers; and three, maintain or improve margins?
Yes. Thanks, Mark. Look, I think that First, I think it's very important that we stay focused on customers. So the nice thing is that I think whether you see it from existing RPO or increased contracts that we're getting, yes, there's a lot of things happening in the market. but we have a large, diverse set of customers, both very large and also smaller customers. And what I spend all of my time doing is I wake up every day and I go, how do I make sure those customers are as happy as possible with us.
And that's -- when I shared the numbers, for example, in my -- in the prepared remarks about the extremely high utilization rate, even when things come back for renewal, they're instantly snapped up. Those are all indicators that we have great customer relationships. They're happy with their products, and they're very satisfied with the prices that we're charging for them. But I think there's going to be a lot of people who enter the space. I think there's clearly several years in, there's still a massively higher demand than there is supply.
And so I think that's going to -- there are going to be more and more people trying to figure out how to meet that demand -- but I don't worry about that. I really focus on how do we make sure that we can meet as much of that demand at a reasonable margin profile. And that's what I think you've seen us invest new business models to -- In terms of how does that affect our future renewals I find that largely what affects future renewals is that several years relationship that we're going to have between now and then. And we're fundamentally in service business. If you think that you're just buying something and then you're done with it, it's not the way it works, right? These people are relying on what we do with Oracle to run and maintain these massive clusters every day. Our ability to do that extremely well, creates an extremely positive relationship, then ensures that the renewal goes well.
And then in terms of the margin profile, look, I've been at Oracle now for 12 years, the whole time I've been working on OCI. What I can tell you is it's not easy to build an extremely efficient, highly secure robust cloud. So I think that our customers see and appreciate the value of what we provide, the flexibility that we give them, the comprehensive set of services that we provide. So I think that over time, as the market continues to mature, and we deploy more and more of our research and development dollars and make it make more efficient. I think there's ways that Oracle gets higher and higher margins, but we actually now -- lower and lower prices to our customers. That's ultimately the job that is on our shoulders and what we've been doing over the past decade is why the biggest and most robust customers come our way.
The next question today is Keith Bachman from Bank of Montreal.
Yes. Thank you very much for the question. Mike, I wanted to direct this to you, if I could. You mentioned 2 things as net new. One was moving towards outcome-based commercial pricing models, the other was rolling out some incremental token packages. And I wanted to see if you could flesh out the why. And more specifically on the commercial -- outcome-based commercial pricing models -- how do you think this reduces friction. And what is this related to what modules? In other words, I assume this is the SaaS portfolio, ERP, ACM, what models might this relate to? And then finally, how do you think this might impact Brooks? That's it for me.
Sure, Jeff. Thanks for the question, Keith. So alpha pricing is not entirely new for us. So this is something we've been doing in our construction business. Based upon construction value under management, subcontractor -- a general contractor, a subcontractor cash flow and payments of sellers, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, with hospitality even in health care, in our new AI-based automated agents where we're automating doctors' notes, we're automating lab orders. We're able to measure and actually price based on patient throughput, which is what the providers. One of the things providers care about is people can get through a health care system, reduce waiting queues -- service to patients.
What is new is that we're now expanding that offer across our entire fleet, as you mentioned, across all of our applications, including our -- fusion piece. Now the sort of difficult thing is that you're not creating the outcome in the first place, that's a tricky thing to present. But since we've made this full stack invested. And since we're able to very easily take the best of the output from the large language models to our customers, pair that with our -- both our horizontal applications and our industry applications, we have a very easy way to measure outcomes for our customers.
And as I mentioned, one of the things we're increasingly hearing from customers is -- how much are we going to spend on AI? And how do I get ROI very quickly. So I think we have a very unique advantage since we're in the infrastructure business, we have large -- lines large vendors training out there. We've got -- we've got all of our applications business, both horizontal and vertical businesses. We are naturally generating these outcomes for customers, and it really gives us the ability to help them understand their own AI budgets as well as align that to the value, again, which is really easy to measure. So I think it's a unique offering. It relies on the full stack investment that we made.
And as I mentioned, early days, early days, but certainly resonating very -- customers. They appreciate the transparency, appreciating about outcomes -- align outcomes to AI spec. I also mentioned the token models, customers want this, again, a lot of we're doing our fusion applications, our industry applications. We continue to add at no additional charge.
The customers want access to advanced reasoning, they want essentially for more tokens at the models, we have prepackaged bundles to allow them to do that. So we're allowing as much liability and as much aligned with the value in our pricing models across our entire application set as we possibly can. And I expect that, that will continue to resonate well with customers as it did in the quarter. And as we roll it out across our entire fleet, certainly should be helpful for our growth story as well.
Your next question is from Raimo Lenschow from Barclays.
Perfect. And welcome to the team as well for me. The question I had was we talked a lot about like AI and the with great momentum you have there, but you still have like the classic Oracle business that we all grew up with. And there's a lot of kind of noise in the market at the moment, especially on the investor side, what's happening to software, et cetera. Can you kind of address a little bit what you're seeing on the database side, there's OCI at Azure, et cetera, and overall database momentum? And then on the application side, the growth rate ticked down a little bit, but then you also mentioned on the call some very nice customer wins. Can you see what you see -- can you talk to what you see in the traffic business?
Yes. Sure, it's Mike. So I'll take a sad here and then ask Clay to jump in as well. So on the applications business, we think double-digit growth on a -- quarter result, inquiry run rate of $4.1 billion is pretty good. And we're certainly happy with our continued double-digit growth.
As I mentioned, our deferred position in the quarter grew by 16%. So we preferred position is growing faster than our in-quarter revenue and it gives us confidence that as far as impact of -- I would say maybe a couple of quarters ago, there were some delayed decision cycles out there as customers saw through that.
But really, particularly in the mission-critical systems space, which is where we play at Oracle, people have quickly moved on to that and realize that's enterprise software, particularly when you have AI built into our SaaS solutions is certainly a very good approach and is necessary to move forward for the modernization and protection of their businesses. So I expect that our applications business will continue to be a healthy contributor to Oracle as it has been.
As far as the anybody, we -- they caught innovation of 29% in the quarter, with multiple -- mentioned growing multi-cloud revenue growing 4x poking through 3.25x in the quarter. And here's the really good news on database. We're in early innings, very early days on multi-cloud database. We continue to unlock new regions and unlock new partnerships in some cases with our competitor cloud, we expect that business to continue to be an outsized growth and engine for going forward.
And I'll say the final piece is that -- in addition to multi-cloud, the innovation and the data I mentioned a couple of the detailed security and agent memory that we put in the database, things like better database surge and features that we've been adding into the database, our part and parcel to company's strategies, the data strategy matters, data architecture matters. And as the -- market starts to take hold, which is, again, also in early days, a lot of that data is just in the Oracle database across the world. And we expect to see continued investment in growth in our database business as a result multi-cloud.
All facets of database, Oracle Cloud, multi-cloud as an underpinning support pillar for all of our applications and all of the spoke workflows in the world that are running work database, prognosis is very good.
And our last question today comes from [ Kirk Materne ] from Evercore ISI.
Yes. I had one, maybe sort of 2-parter around the bring your own hardware and prepaid dynamics. Maybe for Clay and then for Hilary. I guess Clay for you, about 12% of RPO is now related to these type of deals. When you look at the pipeline, where do you think that split could ultimately go? And when you go into these type of deals, especially on the bring-your-own hardware side. What's the value differentiation that maybe those deals have that some of the ones that include -- or I guess how does that differ versus the GPU type deals?
And then Hilary, just to clarify on the CapEx guide. I think you said $70 billion in CapEx, but that was excluding, I think, $25 billion from some of these prepaid deals. So could you just, I guess, talk about this dynamic as it relates to sort of your CapEx outlook?
Yes. So I'll start and then hand it to Hilary. Look, I mean I would like to tell you that yes, we know all of us how things are going to change in the future. I can't say that today. The reality is that what's driving, I think, the mix change is an evolving business model. right? You have a lot of different types of accelerators. You have a lot of different customers. You have a lot of the business in the arrangements.
And so ultimately, one of the things that Oracle can provide to our customers is that we can go out and put up front capital and then depreciate that over a period of time and help finance the customers use to that. But that's not -- the only thing we provide and for a lot of customers is not even the most important thing to provide. What they contract with us for is the ability to go out and get these data centers constructed, design them properly, secure them design networks that go inside of them, install a cloud, give us a complementary set of services around the -- hardware because it turns out that a set of these accelerators on their own is not functioning cloud. You need general-purpose compute, general purpose storage, you need load balancers, you need security function, you need identity. You need all of that to actually make this stuff usable and Oracle provides all of that.
And then anyone that thinks that these things are easy to operate is very confused. So you're not just buying a single rack and putting it into your and your data hall. These are extremely complex clusters that require constant care and feeding cost and maintenance across the network and the hardware itself. And so when you add all that together, I think that what you're seeing is that you've got different entrants in the market around accelerators that are helping customers find ways to procure their accelerators.
And you've got different customers who have different ways of thinking about that. And so I can't tell you exactly the mixture of when we do bring your own hardware versus when we do prepay versus when we bring the capital. But what I can say is that I think you'll continue to see innovation and evolution in this model, given the rapid changes that are happening across this entirely ecosystem.
So let me just start -- we said on the call a couple of times that we also see the margins in those structures, either at or better than the prior contracts that we have. So that's good news in terms of economics. We did introduce this quarter this net cash outlay for capital expenditures, which I think is pretty important to understand our funding requirements.
So indeed, for 2027, fiscal year 2027, we expect around $70 billion in net cash outlay for capital expenditures. That does the exclude $20 billion to $25 billion in prepayments that we will -- or there's some timing difference is in there, but it's just associated with third-party manufacturers, not vendors, not vendor financing, just third-party manufacturers.
So $20 billion to $25 billion. The sum of those is our reported CapEx. But from a funding standpoint, what's happening here is that these structures are enabling us to have a lower cash CapEx requirement when we look at how we plan our business. And also from an economic standpoint, of course, because we're collecting money upfront.
So in normal cases, we would put out the CapEx amount and then later, we would collect money from customers. Here, we collect money from customers upfront and actually -- so that's going to come out of our funding to pay for the CapEx or not 100% of it. Therefore, the return on capital is going to be a bit better as well.
Thank you, Hilary. So for next quarter, this is new for everybody. We expect our Q1 fiscal year '27 earnings results will be announced on September 10. Any changes in the date will be publicly announced.
Also, as a reminder, Hilary brought this up earlier, but our Investor Day will be held on October 28 in Las Vegas. We look to see you all there as part of AI world. A telephone replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our Investor Relations website. And as a reminder, the slides that you saw today will be posted to the website shortly.
Thank you for joining us today. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Lisa for closing.
And once again, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation today. You may now disconnect.
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Oracle — Q4 2026 Earnings Call
Oracle — Q4 2026 Earnings Call
Starkes Q4: $19,2 Mrd. Umsatz (+21%), extrem hohes OCI‑Wachstum, Management setzt auf Full‑Stack‑AI und beschleunigte Rechenzentrums‑Investitionen.
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $19,2 Mrd. (+21% YoY)
- Cloud‑Infrastruktur: +93% YoY
- Cloud/Apps: Cloud insgesamt +10%; Applications‑Umsatz $4,1 Mrd. (+10%)
- Ergebnis: Operatives Ergebnis $8,6 Mrd. (+22%); non‑GAAP EPS ex‑Einmaleffekte +20%
- Cash & RPO: Operativer Cashflow $32 Mrd. (+54%); Remaining Performance Obligations (RPO) deutlich gestiegen
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- Full‑Stack‑AI: Oracle positioniert sich mit Anwendungen, Datenbank, Infrastruktur und AI‑Tooling als integrierte Lösung für Enterprise‑KI‑Projekte.
- OCI‑Expansion: Massive Rechenzentrums‑Investitionen (mehrere Sites, MW/GPU‑Ausbau) und Verträge, inklusive Bring‑Your‑Own‑Hardware und Vorauszahlungen.
- Kommerzielle Modelle: Einführung von tokenbasierten Paketen und ergebnisbasierten Preisen, um ROI‑Messung und Budget‑Akzeptanz bei Kunden zu erleichtern.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑27 Wachstum: Management erwartet +34% Umsatzwachstum in konstanter Währung und non‑GAAP EPS $8,05 (+18% CC).
- Q1 FY‑27: Umsatzwachstum 27–29% YoY, Cloud‑Wachstum 58–64%, non‑GAAP EPS $1,72–1,76.
- Investitionen & Finanzierung: Erwartetes Netto‑CapEx rund $70 (Managementangabe) plus Kunden‑Vorzahlungen/Timingeffekte $20–25 Mrd.; geplante Kapitalaufnahme erwähnt.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- CapEx‑Timing: Analysten hinterfragten höhere CapEx — Management erklärt Teile als Timingbeschleunigung, nicht nur Komponentenkosten.
- Return on Invested Capital: CFO nennt projektspezifische ROIC‑Schätzungen in hohen zweistelligen Prozentbereichen im steady‑state.
- Wettbewerb & BYOH: Nachfrage vs. neues Angebot im AI‑Datacenter‑Markt; Oracle sieht Vorteile in Betrieb, Sicherheit und Komplettangebot, BYOH/Prepay‑Deals als ergänzende Modelle.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starke Quartalszahlen mit klarer AI‑Erzählung: OCI treibt Wachstum und RPO‑Sichtbarkeit, kurzfristig aber Margendruck durch beschleunigte Rechenzentrums‑Ramp‑Up und hohe Investitionen; der Ausblick bleibt aggressiv und setzt auf skalierbare langfristige Renditen, Risiken sind Build‑Out‑Execution, Supply‑Chain/Kosten und Kapitalbedarf.
Oracle — Q3 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Regina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Oracle Corporation Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]
I would now like to turn the conference over to Ken Bond, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Regina, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Oracle's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; Chief Executive Officer, Clay Magouyrk; Chief Executive Officer, Mike Sicilia; and Principal Financial Officer, Doug Kehring. A copy of the press release and financial tables, which includes the supplemental financial details on our most recent quarter, guidance for our future results a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation and a selected list of customers who purchased Oracle Cloud Services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from our Investor Relations website. .
As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, and we will discuss some important factors relating to our business. These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements being made today. As a result, we caution you from placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments.
Finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before we go to the Q&A portion of the call, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks. And with that, I'll turn it over to Doug.
Thanks, Ken. Let me start by highlighting the changes we are making to our earnings press release and this call. In the press release, we have laid out clearly and explicitly the supplemental financial metrics that we otherwise would have provided on the earnings call so that each of you has the information in writing and in advance.
Then as it relates to our approach to the earnings call itself, I will be very brief and then turn it over to Mike and Clay to provide more substantial thoughts on our business. After which, all of us, including Larry, will be available to take questions.
In terms of the results for Q3, we had a tremendous quarter that exceeded expectations across the board. Our momentum continues to accelerate, with Q3 being the first quarter in over 15 years, where both organic total revenue and organic non-GAAP EPS grew at 20% or better in USD, as we highlighted in the press release. I'll quickly mention a couple of things and then hand the call over to our CEOs.
First, in January, TikTok U.S. completed the separation of its U.S. data operations from ByteDance into an independent company in which Oracle now holds a 15% equity stake along with a seat on the board. In terms of impact to our financials, there is no impact to the revenue related to the services we have been providing as their technology vendor [Audio Gap] equity investment, we will be accounting for this under the equity method, and we will recognize our share of the new company's earnings for the period from the close of the investment in late January to March 31, and in our Q4 results as there is a 2-month reporting period time lag.
It will be recorded as nonoperating income or loss on our income statement and is incremental and additive to our financials. Second, in February, we announced our intent to raise up to $50 billion in debt and equity financing along with the statement that we do not expect to issue any additional bonds beyond this amount in calendar year 2026. Within days of the announcement, we raised $30 billion through a combination of investment-grade bonds and mandatory convertible preferred stock with a record order book that was substantially oversubscribed.
As noted in our release, we have not yet initiated the at-the-market equity portion of the financing program. Finally, I'd be remiss not to remind everyone, we are reporting our financial results just 10 days after the last day of the quarter despite the increasing size and complexity of our business. Using Oracle Fusion, we continue to close and file our financial results faster than any other company in the S&P 500, providing us with a significant strategic advantage as well as an opportunity to help our Fusion customers do the same with their businesses.
With that, let me now turn the call over to Mike. .
Thanks, Doug. And as Doug just detailed, we really had an excellent quarter across the board and continue to see strong execution. So let me say a few words about our applications business. Oracle has the fastest growing, most complete suite of cloud applications in the market full stop. Our SaaS solutions are industry complete platforms with highly scalable, trusted, secure and regulatory compliance systems and processes in which our customers trust us to run the systems that run their businesses.
In constant currency, cloud applications revenue was up 11% in the quarter, reaching an annualized run rate of $16.1 billion. Within that, Fusion ERP was up 14% and using SCM, up 15%; Fusion HCM, up 15%, using CX up 6%. NetSuite was up 11%. Industry SaaS solutions for hospitality, construction, retail, banking, restaurants, local governments and telecommunications combined, were up 19%. So certainly, very happy with the applications growth in the quarter.
In the context of that, I'll say a few words about the reported [ SaaS apocalypse ]. You've all heard the thesis or theory that new companies coding quickly using AI will spell the death of SaaS. I don't agree with that at all. I do think that AI tools and their coding capabilities would be a threat if we weren't adopting them, but we are and very rapidly. Oracle is using the best AI coding tools and the best developers not only to accelerate our SaaS business but to deliver solutions that enable entire ecosystems across numerous industries.
The use of AI coding tools inside Oracle is enabling smaller engineering teams to deliver more complete solutions to our customers more quickly. We are building brand-new SaaS products using AI and also embedding AI agents right into our existing applications suites. By embracing AI with small engineering teams, we have just built 3 brand-new CX applications, lead generation and qualification, sales orchestration and automated selling and our new website generator.
In fact, we just used the website generator to build and launch the new oracle.com. We've built these new CX products to help our customers sell not simply to forecast or generate e-mail opens, these are 3 products that Salesforce.com does not have. And of course, salesforce.com also doesn't have OCI, the AI data platform, Fusion ERP and complete industry suites. Complete AI-powered end-to-end ecosystem automation platforms are quite unique to Oracle.
In addition to that, we've already delivered well over 1,000 agents right inside our horizontal back office and industry applications. This doesn't even include the agents that our customers are building themselves or the fleet of agents that we're using internally. These are AI features built right into our applications and existing processes. And a great example, I think, is in health care, where our brand new AI-powered ambulatory EHR, electronic health record system is live in the market and the results are quite clear. We are reducing administrative overhead, we're allowing clinicians to see more patients. We're improving access to care, and we're increasing provider satisfaction.
In another example, in banking, we provide a comprehensive AI-powered SaaS platform, including everything from commercial banking, retail banking, investment banking, anti-money laundering, financial crime and compliance, payments, supply chain financing, CX, ERP and HCM. That banking suite alone contains hundreds of embedded AI agents, all available at no additional cost to our customers.
In retail, our AI-enabled solutions span merchandising, assortment planning, supply chain management, point-of-sale commerce and of course, ERP, CX and HCM. In summary, these are not systems that can be replaced by a small collection of these features cobbled together and bolted on in the name of AI. So yes, some smaller or single focused SaaS players may well be disrupted, but Oracle will not be among them.
Now let me focus on key -- a few key wins in Q3 in the application space. And by all means, this is a very short list, not an exhaustive list. Memorial Hermann Health System selected Fusion ERP, SCM and HCM. This was a win over Workday. University of New South Wales also selected Fusion ERP and HCM, also a win over Workday. Gregg Media selected Fusion EPM and ERP, a win again over Workday and also over SAP. Investec Bank selected Fusion EPM and ERP over SAP. HID Global Corporation also selected Fusion ERP and SCM over SAP.
Ethiopian shipping and logistics services enterprises selected Fusion ERP, SCM, and HCM, again, over SAP. A major Wall Street Bank elected to standardize on Fusion ERP for the entirety of their business and all of their business units replacing SAP full stop. Loudoun County Public Schools selected Fusion ERP, EPM, HCM and SCM. The J.M. Smucker Company selected Fusion ERP and EPM, Westfield Insurance [ spec ] Fusion ERP, EPM, HCM and procurement. Mitsubishi UFG Financial Group is an existing cloud customer and database customer, they are now moving into both our Fusion ERP and industry SaaS applications. SDC Kuwait, an existing major tech customer is moving [ EBS ] to the cloud to support their growth. So just a very small list of major application wins in the quarter.
In the quarter, we had over 2,000 customers go live in Q3, 2,000 customers when you think about our industry applications and our fusion applications put together over 2,000 went to live. And more importantly, we continue to see the median time from live decreased a very small sample of go-lives in the quarter. Herst expanded their ERP with enterprise -- with EPM as well as HCM. J.M. Huber companies across Fusion ERP and Hcm. Emirates Health Services went live with HCM, which enabled a comprehensive HR, payroll and talent suite to elevate their workforce management.
Niagara bottling that went live on SCM moving from on-premise ERP to Fusion. Seadrill is now live across ERP, HCM, SCM and EPM. Again, very -- with 2,000 lives in the quarter, that's just a very, very short list of go-lives, but you can see, hopefully, not only momentum but multi-pillar momentum with these customers. I also have an equally shortlist compared to the overall list of key tech wins in Q3.
Lockheed Martin selected OCI high-performance compute to scale AI across their environment efficiently. Rambus selected OCI compute, networking and storage for AI video and security across all of their workloads. Lucid Motors selected OCI core services for data and connectivity in order to expand into European markets. Infomart in Japan selected OCI for their mission-critical B2B platform. Claro Brazil selected OCI alloy for sovereign AI.
Air France KLM, which is a multi-cloud win featuring a win with the Oracle database at Azure, and that led to a 13x performance improvement at a significantly lower cost for Air France KLM and Activision Blizzard, an existing oracle E-Business Suite was also an Oracle database at Azure win. Oracle's embrace of AI across our strategic applications is leading to broader enterprise conversations with our customers involving our full stack, OCI, AI data platform, Fusion applications, industry suites. These conversations are about ecosystem automation. They're not about single apps. They're about automating the entire ecosystem, and they further been able to by our simplified go-to-market model, which we spoke about in our last earnings call.
This is allowing us to close more multiproduct deals with more customers combining the power of the Oracle database, our OCI platform, our AI tooling and our complete application suites. In constant currency, cloud applications deferred revenue was up 14% versus in-quarter cloud applications revenue growth of 11%, which further supports our acceleration thesis.
With that, Clay, I'll turn it over to you.
Thank you, Mike. Okay. So I'm going to talk about 2 segments of our business: our multi-cloud database and AI infrastructure. Both are growing extremely quickly. Multi-cloud database revenue grew 531% year-over-year. AI infrastructure revenue grew 243% year-over-year. Both also have demand that exceeds supply and a clear execution plan for Oracle that will rapidly turn that demand into profitable recurring revenue.
Oracle database has run on any hardware and operating system for decades. Oracle Database Cloud Services up until recently, were only available in a single cloud, OCI. We created our multi-cloud partnerships with First Microsoft, then Google and finally, Amazon to bring the best database platform to all cloud. Those partnerships unlock an enormous backlog of demand. Our database customers who want to use our database in other clouds. This quarter, we achieved an important milestone.
We have global region coverage in all of our partner cloud. We now have 33 regions live with Microsoft and 14 live with Google. We delivered significant growth with AWS beginning Q3 with 2 AWS regions live, exiting Q3 with 8 AWS regions live, and we will exit Q4 with 22 AWS regions live. AI is also accelerating the adoption of our database cloud services. The improvement in model coding fields and agentic capabilities pushes customers to move their most valuable data into our cloud services. They need access to the latest AI features to support vector embeddings and CP server access and advanced security controls. Customers also need their data to be co-located with the agents themselves, and our multi-cloud database makes that easy. Our multi-cloud architecture brings the best of Oracle Cloud into our partner regions.
This ensures that we will rapidly turn billions of pipelines into highly profitable database service revenue. Demand for AI infrastructure, both GPU and CPU continues to exceed supply. This is directly visible in our $553 billion RPO. I want to share a model for how that RPO turns into profitable recurring revenue as well as some operational metrics that are early indicators of our progress.
AI infrastructure begins with data centers and power generation. Through our partners, we have secured more than 10 gigawatts of power and data center capacity coming online over the next 3 years. Those infrastructure investments also need funding and greater than 90% of that capacity is fully funded through our partners, with the remainder planned to finish this month. Once the data center is secured, several things must come together. The data center and on-site power generation has to be constructed. Compute, networking and storage has to be designed, manufactured, delivered and installed. All the capacity inside the data center also has to be funded.
We continue to innovate across each of these steps. We optimize our data center construction through standardized designs. Our supply chain has improved with more suppliers and deeper relationships. We have tripled our manufacturing sites and increased rack output by 4x all in the last year. We have scaled our installation processes to enable multiple phases of delivery in parallel. Time from rack delivery to revenue has reduced by 60% in the past several months.
We also continue to innovate on our business models. On our last earnings call, I shared multiple ideas for how we can incrementally grow our AI infrastructure without Oracle raising more debt or issuing equity. We have signed more than $29 billion of contracts since then, across multiple customers using that new model. A combination of bring your own hardware and upfront customer payments enables us to continue expanding without any negative cash flow from Oracle.
Of course, this $29 billion is in addition to other deals we signed this quarter. Ultimately, all of this results in capacity delivered to customers and revenue to Oracle. In Q3, we delivered more than 400 megawatts to customers. 90% of that committed capacity was delivered on or ahead of schedule as we've consistently done over several quarters. This is why customers continue to choose Oracle for their infrastructure needs.
Investing in the AI infrastructure is capital-intensive, but our operating model is optimized to ensure profitability. Flexible infrastructure design, high utilization and rapid handover combined with diversified customers create an incredible, Increased scale spreads our fixed costs over a larger base increasing profitability. It's unprecedented to scale a capital-intensive business so quickly while also increasing profitability.
Looking at the AI capacity we delivered in Q3, our gross margin for that remained above our 30% guidance at 32%. Now combine that with our other segments of OCI, which have much higher margins, like our database services, and you can see why Oracle is growing so quickly and profitably. Our numbers speak for themselves. We are overdelivering on FY '26 revenue and earnings, and we are constantly raising our FY '27 forecast. This is made possible by Oracle's transition from a predominantly seasonal license business into a highly predictable recurring revenue class business.
Demand for AI and advanced compute will continue to expand broadly across the economy. There will be many successful models, agentic platforms and businesses that emerge. We support hundreds of the most advanced AI customers today and more continually want to work with us. We build infrastructure that is flexible, fungible and can support the smallest workloads up to the largest. We continue to offer the latest in accelerators from the most recent NVIDIA AMD options to emerging designs from companies like [ Cerebro and Peloton ]. Altogether, we are confident that the investments we make now in data centers, compute capacity and customer relationships will only grow more valuable time. Back to Ken for questions.
Thank you, Clay. Regina, if you could please poll the audience for questions.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from the line of John DiFucci with Guggenheim.
2. Question Answer
Thank you. Well, a lot going on here. So listen, I'm going to let others ask about the AI infrastructure question. But we've heard Doug talk about a halo effect that the AI infrastructure business is having on the rest of your business. This quarter was strong, and you said that the RPO increase was from large-scale AI contracts. At the same time, we're hearing from the field now that halo effect is actually turning into business.
Outside of AI infrastructure, it sounds like the go-lives are steady, but the business activity and especially the pipeline are up materially from more traditional cloud workloads, including dedicated regions, sovereign clouds, even [ alloy ] deals we've started hearing about. In addition to what Mike started talking about, with the often related apps deals. I realize these types of deals aren't the scale of these AI deals. But can you talk about what seems to be an underlying momentum building in these businesses. Am I right to be thinking of this? And if I could, on a sort of related topic, can you give us any visibility into CapEx for fiscal '27?
Okay. John, this is Mike. I'll take the question. So yes, we absolutely are seeing a halo effect, and let me add a little bit of color on that. As far as the apps business, the fact that we're training so many models on OCI and so closely provisioned to our applications allows us to embed very high-quality AI services right into our applications, as I said, as features.
So not only are we serving these customers, serving the model vendors for training. But we're also embedding a lot of the output, right, into our applications. Of course, we're doing prompt engineering and things like that to make it relevant to the business. But the fact that that we are the custodian in our applications business of so much of the world's mission-critical data. We have very close provisioning, very close proximity to these models, putting those 2 things together allows customers to get value from AI very, very quickly.
And if you've heard any criticism with AI and well, I can't get value quick enough. Well, actually, when you bundle up as a service and expose private data to AI that we are the custodian of the applications that we've seen terrific wins. I mentioned some of the verticals you heard about there, but I think that's true across the board. The other piece that is a very interesting halo effect is leveraging our infrastructure, just OCI, infrastructure as a budget creator for customers.
You've heard us say it before, we're faster and cheaper than everybody else. And when customers are thinking about these large-scale application or large-scale infrastructure transformations, we can also help them get to a position of a budget creation to be able to fund that transformation simply by moving their workloads to OCI because we can run them more quickly and more efficiently and less expensively than our competitors.
And then finally, the other halo effect before I turn it over to Doug, for your question on CapEx is around sovereign AI. Our sovereign story is not new and it's not a knee jerk reaction to the things that are happening in the world, combine other with our Alloy story, we're really seeing increasing pipeline across the world. The fact that our form factor, and we're so differentiated in our form factor, and we can deliver not just the smaller form factor, but complete OCI services on top of that form factor no matter how many racks are involved, whether it's 3 racks or 500 racks, we think that's a huge differentiator in the market. So you put you put apps together, you put OCI AI services together, you put sovereignty together. And yes, it's a pretty big halo effect.
Yes. And John, just let we start by acknowledging the creativity in getting 2 questions at the same time, it's always fascinating to watch. So on CapEx, I think we'll get back to everyone next -- after the end of the fiscal year and talk about next year's CapEx at that point in time. But I will say a couple of things. Obviously, from what Clay has gone through, the most interesting thing that you just start thinking about is the uncoupling of CapEx with capital requirements from Oracle.
Obviously, when we have these additional funding mechanisms, there may be additional CapEx, but it doesn't require out-of-pocket cash from Oracle, which is quite interesting. So underlying that, as we remain committed to what we talked about last quarter, which is maintaining the investment-grade rating at Oracle as well as staying within the financing envelope that we talked about, obviously, of which we've announced that we're doing $50 billion this calendar year of that total. So more to come, John, on the CapEx after next quarter.
Very much appreciate the color on that, Doug. And Mike, your prepared remarks on AI and how Oracle approaches it, everybody should use that because it's a logical approach.
Our next question will come from the line of Mark Murphy with JPMorgan.
Congrats on the acceleration play. As Oracle transitions to higher levels of AI inferencing, what do you view as the right strategy for trying to optimize the location of your data centers. For instance, you have these huge centralized data centers in Texas and Wyoming, they're very close to power, but they're pretty far from the population centers and the fiber routes that are out there on the seaboard.
So it crosses our minds that the users and the devices are a long distance away. So as you make us move more into inferencing, are you seeing any reason to try to pivot those locations a little closer to where the users and the traffic are.
Sure. This is Clay. Great question, Mark. So let me start by, I think, highlighting our perspective on inferencing and how that impacts kind of data center deployment. So first thing, I would say, is I think we are -- for a while, there's a lot of training going on. inferencing is very rapidly growing, everywhere and anywhere. I think it's because of higher and higher utilization of the models themselves and also new use cases. As anyone who's been using Claude or Codex recently in the software space nodes.
These are incredible tools that are changing how we do everything. So inferencing is going to have a huge amount of demand. Now when you talk about data center location, you mentioned latency is the one. Realistically, there are several reasons you might care about the location. It might be the cost, it might be just overall availability, it might be for sovereignty. So there's different reasons to pick a location. But honing in on your point about latency, the thing, I think, to understand is that latency is all proportional, meaning. If what you're trying to do is you're trying to do a very, very low legacy trade on the stock market, waiting for the 100-millisecond round trip from coast to coast is a bad idea. If what you're doing is you're asking a question for your business, it's going to take an AI model several seconds to think about an extra 40 milliseconds of latency from New York to Wyoming is not going to hurt you.
And so when you actually talk to customers about use cases where they need lower latency, the latency problem right now is not actually the location of the hardware. It's the type of hardware that's being deployed. And that's why you're seeing so much innovation going on around these AI accelerators. If you look at what the Groq Rock does or Cerebras or Positron, all of these different types of customers are saying, well, not only how do we reduce the cost of inferencing, but also how can we significantly reduce the latency of it.
I think if you look forward to GTC from NVIDIA next week, you'll see announcements from them. But across the board, I think the way that an industry we're going to consolidate and kind of reduce latency has to first start with a different architecture for that inferencing. And thankfully, the data center location is actually a very tiny part of that. So it makes much more flexible for us to go out and put the data centers where power is abundant, land is plentiful, and we can actually optimize for what's available to meet this ever-increasing demand.
Our next question comes from the line of Siti Panigrahi with Mizuho.
I want to ask about the opportunity with your AI database and the AI data platform. So with recent excitement on AI and on enterprises now adopting tools from Frontier LLMs. So what are you hearing from customers about training their private data and building their private LLMs. And how confident are you in seeing the inflection in your AI database growth that you talked about at the Analyst Day in October. .
Thanks. This is Clay. So look, I think there are 2 parts to that question. One is, how much adoption are we seeing a kind of private LLMs. And then how much are we seeing of using AI with private data.
I think in the early days, people -- a lot of people thought that most customers will be doing very specific training of their own large language model. I think that has largely proven to not be the case. Instead, what I think is incredibly popular growing in popularity is people taking the best models and wanting them to combine that in a private way with their private data. .
And we're seeing a lot of demand for that. If you listen to Mike earlier talk about, right, how we're embedding these AI models into our applications, that's one use case. But obviously, not everything, unfortunately runs inside of an Oracle application and lots of customer applications are written. So we added a lot of functionality to our Oracle AI database, make it easy to connect whether it be through the MCP servers or natural language to SQL that you can use these models to use. But also, we have our AI data platform product, which is really about solving this exact problem. You have a lot of data, maybe application data, it may be custom data and different data lakes and lake houses and may be data in a structured database.
All that together gives you an agentic platform to quickly build applications on as well as access to all of the greatest models from multiple providers. So across the stack, we're seeing a lot of momentum across that. And that's why in my prepared remarks, I talked about the growth that we're seeing with our multi-cloud database. .
What we see is that for customers to take advantage of the latest and greatest AI, they first have to be in the cloud, and there's still a lot of data that's not in the cloud. And so we see acceleration of moving that most important private data to a cloud environment, so they can then take advantage of the latest and greatest AI with that data.
Our next question comes from the line of Mark Moerdler with Sanford Bernstein.
Congratulations on what's a really good quarter, really great work. I'm going to change over a little bit and discuss on the financial side a little bit. Now that you've completed your major debt raise, can you explain, given the blend of the cost of the -- building out the AI data center and the cost of raising capital to fund the AI data center. How comfortable are you with the values you're creating from the AI data center business itself.
And then as an adjacency, if you don't mind, can you talk a little bit more on the sovereign cloud? Can you discuss how you parlay the AI data center business into being the AI provider for sovereign clouds. And how that should impact your -- the value of -- to Oracle?
Sure. I think we're going to split this ONE up. Mark,
This is Clay. I'll take the first half, and then I'm going to throw it to Mike to talk about some of the sovereign cloud stuff. So look, when you think about the overall profitability of these AI data centers, there's 2 pieces. One is how profitable is it purely on the accelerator themselves. We made guidance in the past that we see gross margin in the 30% to 40% range on that, that continues to hold for us.
And as we continue to get better and better at running these data centers, delivering them more cheaply, optimizing the amount of cost of -- for networking and hardware spend as well as power, we see that continuing to incrementally improve. So we're very pleased with that. The other thing to understand is that in these AI data centers, whether it be for inferencing or for training workloads, only thing being procured is not AI accelerators. There's a lot of general purpose compute. There's a lot of whether it be high performance or large-scale blob storage, there's load balancing, there's identity security products, et cetera, et cetera.
That typically on the order of 10% to 20% of the total spend is going to adjacent services. And when you factor that in, which have higher margins being on the mix of services, the overall profitability continues to improve. And that's without taking into account, as I mentioned earlier, about our multi-cloud database business, that's a much higher margin business, more in the 60% to 80% range. It's growing very, very rapidly. And so when you combine all of these pieces together, the overall margin profile of OCI continues to strengthen and rose rapidly. I mean the thing I would say, the question that I think underlies this that maybe people don't understand is the limitation on the profitability is not on the capacity we delivered.
So let's say that I'm building a data center and has 4 data halls. And I deliver the first data hall that one is profitable. The reason that we're not even more profitable right now, despite the fact that we are continuing to grow EPS, et cetera. is because we have so much under construction at one time, and we have some expenses for those things. Now we're really good at that. We're very, very good at minimizing the time under which that construction is happening. We're very, very good at reducing those costs during that time period, but they're not zero.
And so as our business is going through this hyper-growth phase, that's the only drag on profitability. But thankfully, we're getting -- we're very good and getting better at delivering that capacity that capacity when we deliver it is all already contracted for at a very profitable rate. So when you combine those things together, we're extremely confident in both the capacity we delivered and the continuing to increase profitability of our AI business.
Mike, do you want to talk about sovereignty.
Yes. So sovereignty, as I mentioned earlier, I think we're very well positioned. A year ago, sovereignty was about data sovereignty. And there were some [indiscernible] solutions in the market where there was sovereign data from a primary perspective, but DR and maybe somewhere else, maybe in another country. Of course, that's no longer acceptable. sovereignty is about sovereign data, sovereign operations, and even sovereign contracting. Our Alloy model is perfectly positioned to deliver on all 3 of those things.
And by delivering full stack solutions, again, the big difference between what we're doing with sovereignty and what some of our competitors are doing, we're not simply putting an edge sovereign zone in. We're putting full stack OCI, which had all of our OCI services, and, as you mentioned, margin mix also allows us to run all of our application suite, our AI data platform in that software zone as well. Of course, the margins on some of those are different than our infrastructure margins.
So I think that we're in a very unique position to deliver all that we have at Oracle in a sovereign zone. That sovereign zone can be as small or as large as the customer wants it to be. The other piece is that we have full flexibility as to where we draw the line of sovereignty. We often think about sovereignty in terms of lines of customers, but we also have customers we've been talking with enterprise customers who may operate across multiple countries, let's say, in Europe or in Africa that actually want to have a sovereign zone, a sovereign zone that they control and they operate in their data center, and they're serving customers in a certain vertical industry like health care, for example, or retail, for example, and their sovereign zone is drawn in their alloy across those countries. We can accommodate all of that. We have the most flexibility. We think we have the most flexibility in contract and most flexibility in delivering. And again, the most important thing is that we deliver all that Oracle has in these sovereign zones. It's not a subset. It's not a few edge devices. It's all of OCI.
Our next question will come from the line of Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.
Perfect. I wanted to ask something that we are struggling a lot with when we talk to investors, and that's kind of the theme of SaaS, software application software is dead because AI is going to kill it. Just wanted to hear what you guys are hearing when you talk with customers? Is that like some -- one of these investor things? Is that getting discussed on the customer side as well? And how do you explain it? And I'm just thinking about like what do you guys do with a lot of deterministic rather than probabilistic. So that might probably be the explanation here. But just wanted to hear your perspective again.
This is Mike. I'll take the question. So as far as the customers that I spoke with, I've not yet met a customer who tells me they're ready to give away their retail merchandising system, their core banking system, demand deposit account systems, electronic health record systems and some small cobbling together of niche AI features are going to replace all of that over and overnight. In fact, I hear quite the opposite from the customers. .
What they're asking us is how can we get -- how can we consume as much AI out of the box you're putting into your applications across the board? And how can we get that up and live as quickly as we possibly can because we think that's the best way to actually realize value. But these systems -- what we're running at Oracle, as you know, these are highly complex mission-critical systems with -- we have decades of industry experience, decades of regulatory compliance. And these are the systems that run -- that our customers use to run their business, run their government agency, run their health care organization, whatever the case is.
I really like our position here. As I said, we're leaning very heavily into AI ourselves. So we have 1,000 AI agents already live in Fusion. Our banking alone has hundreds of AI agents just inside our banking solutions. So Yes, we think AI is disruptive. We do, but we think we're the disruptor because we're actually embedding the AI right into our applications full stop, again, at no additional. These are features that come in, in the application suite as part of quarterly upgrades as part of a regular cadence. So I'm actually -- instead of being -- think that AI spells the death of SaaS, at least for Oracle, I think it actually helps our SaaS position and helps us get to market even more quickly. We're thrilled with the results that we have and expect to have a lot more color on this as we go forward.
Our final question will come from the line of Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
And I'll echo my congrats and also just say that the messaging is very, very clear and very helpful. My question is for Mike and perhaps Larry, and it extends on what Raimo has asked. You've introduced AI agent studio inside of Fusion and we all know that the crown jewels within an enterprise live inside of Oracle Database and Oracle apps. But I'm curious, how do you see Oracle's role evolving in a world where many other players are vying to be the AI interaction layer across multiple different enterprise systems and workflows..
So Brad, it's Mike. So I'll start. So look, I think data gravity matters here. And I think mission-critical data gravity matters even more. So as we said, we've announced the AI agent Studio inside of Fusion. Fusion is a system inside our customers that is the custodian of their operational data, their mission-critical data. So if you're going to build a bunch of AI agents as or your system integrator is going to build a bunch of AI agents. The question I would have is where we'd just start. .
Well, you can start inside the system of record, you'd start inside the system of gravity because that is the data from an inferencing standpoint, from a retrieval augmented generation standpoint is going to be highly relevant and highly specific and add a bunch of context to AI. Now the AI agent studio that we've released in fusion is not just specific -- it's not specific to just Fusion data. You can build AI agents across our industry applications, across third-party applications, third parties can build AI agents in there. So the fact that we're delivering an all-in-one best up solution, a full-scale SaaS application, AI powered SaaS applications and giving you the ability to create your own AI agents either on top of that or next to that in a standard upgraded, quarterly platform release schedule, I think, is going to be quite attractive because this AI agent studio that we built at Fusion, it's part of our quarterly upgrades. It's part of our quarterly regular security patching. So you're getting the best we think of both worlds. You're getting packet SaaS applications. You're getting an agent studio, which is very, very close to the most mission-critical germane data that enterprise possesses and you're getting the ability to create your own custom bespoke agents if you'd like to as well.
Yes. I'll just end with, we provide a bunch of prebuilt agents for all of our applications. But in addition, we provide a development environment, the AI data platforms development environment that allow our customers to easily add their own agents to what we build. We don't think we can build all the application agents for a banking system or all the application agents for a health care system. A lot of our partners are going to do that.
A lot of our customers are going to do that. What the AI data platform does is it provides a complete integrated development environment where you can build your own agents using any AI model that is in the Oracle Cloud and that is basically all of the popular AI models. You can use it for coding the agent, you can use it -- you do multistep reasoning for queries, we plan in our fusion accounting system, for example, we will have a complex agent that does something called the close. So when you close your books with Fusion in the not-too-distant future, it will be an autonomous agent, no human beings involved.
You will close your books by simply telling the AI agent to go ahead and close the books, and then you will get your results. We provide a lot of AI capability built into our applications, but they are open. They are open that allow our customers and our partners to add to that portfolio of agents and we built an entire ecosystem that automates health care, automate financial services automates retail. That is what AI is allowing us to do is to expand our horizons for the scope of the suites of a SaaS software building to automate entire ecosystems. Let me talk about health care. In health care, Epic automates hospitals, acute care hospitals, and in some cases, clinics, but primarily acute care hospitals.
We automate acute care hospitals. We automate clinics. We automate laboratories where we automate the payers, the people who actually maybe we automate the insurance companies. We automate the HCM system that trains their nurses that schedules they're ready to get the right radiologist when an MRI is given. But that automates the hospital's financials but also automates the FDA and that approves the latest drugs that deals with the pharmaceutical companies.
That's the health care ecosystem. It's enormous. And thank God, we have these coding tools now that allow us to build a comprehensive set of software, agent-based software to automate a complete ecosystem like health care or financial services. That's what we're doing at Oracle. That's why we think we're a disruptor. That's why we think the SaaS apocalypse applies to others but not to us.
A telephone replay of the conference call will be available for 24 hours on our Investor Relations website. Thank you for joining us today. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Regina for closing.
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Oracle — Q3 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Wachstum: Organisches Total Revenue und organisches non‑GAAP EPS jeweils ≥20% YoY in USD (erstes Mal seit >15 Jahren).
- Cloud‑Apps: +11% in konstanter Währung; Annualized run rate $16,1 Mrd.
- AI & DB: Multi‑Cloud Database +531% YoY; AI Infrastructure +243% YoY.
- RPO & Kapazität: Remaining Performance Obligation (RPO) $553 Mrd; >400 MW AI‑Kapazität in Q3 ausgeliefert; AI‑Infra Gross Margin ~32% (Guidance >30%).
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- AI in SaaS: AI wird tief in Anwendungen eingebettet (über 1.000 Agenten, neues AI Agent Studio in Fusion, drei neue CX‑Produkte) – AI als Standard‑Feature, nicht Aufpreis.
- Multi‑Cloud: Partnerschaften mit Microsoft, Google und AWS; Regionen: 33 (MS), 14 (Google), AWS 2→8 in Q3 (Ziel Q4: 22) — Ziel: Datenlokalität und breitere Nachfrage.
- Skalierung & Finanzierung: Ausbau der AI‑Infrastruktur über Partnerfinanzierung, Alloy/Bring‑your‑own‑hardware und vorab bezahlte Verträge, um Expansion ohne negativen Cash‑Flow von Oracle zu ermöglichen.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Prognose: Management sagt, FY‑26 Revenue und EPS werden übererfüllt; FY‑27 Forecast wird laufend angehoben.
- Margen: AI‑Infra GM ~32%; Mix‑Effekt mit höhermargigen Database‑Services soll OCI‑Margen weiter verbessern.
- Finanzierung/CapEx: Bis zu $50 Mrd Programm, $30 Mrd bereits aufgenommen; at‑the‑market Equity noch nicht gestartet; konkrete FY‑27‑CapEx‑Angaben folgen nach Quartalsende.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Halo‑Effekt: Analysten fragten, wie AI‑Infra Pipeline und Go‑lives in Apps antreibt; Management bestätigte Cross‑sell und schnellere Wertrealisierung.
- Data‑Location & Latenz: Diskussion über Standortwahl vs. Latenz; Management: Hardware‑Architektur und Accelerator‑Typ wichtiger als reine Entfernung.
- Profitabilität & Souveränität: Nachfrage nach privaten LLMs/Daten‑Gravity und Sovereign‑Alloy‑Angeboten; Management lieferte Regionenzahlen, MW‑Auslieferungen und GM‑Bands, verschob aber konkrete FY‑27‑CapEx‑Details.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starker Call: AI‑Infrastruktur treibt Umsatzwachstum, wiederkehrende Erlöse und Cross‑sell in Anwendungen; Margen stabilisieren sich. Positiv für Aktionäre, aber CapEx‑Timing und Finanzierungsmechanik (Convertible/Equity‑Programm) sowie die Übergangsphase bei Data‑Center‑Deployments bleiben zu beobachten.
Oracle — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Oracle Corporation Q2 FY '26 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Ken Bond, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.
Thank you, Tiffany. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Oracle's Second Quarter Fiscal year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; Chief Executive Officer, Mike Sicilia; Chief Executive Officer, Clay Magouyrk; and Principal Financial Officer, Doug Kehring.
A copy of the press release and financial tables, which includes a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation, other supplemental financial information and a list of many customers purchased Oracle Cloud Services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from our Investor Relations website. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, and we will discuss some important factors relating to our business. These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you from placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments, and finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these financial-looking statements. Before taking questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks. And I'll now pass the call over to Mike.
No, it's actually to me, Ken. Appreciate it. This is Doug. As it relates to the numbers we are about to present, the following apply to both the results for Q2 and to our guidance for Q3. First, we'll be discussing our financials using constant currency growth rates as this is how we manage the business. Second, we'll be presenting our numbers on a non-GAAP basis, except where we indicate otherwise. Finally, as it relates to currency, it had a 1% positive impact on revenue and $0.03 positive impact on earnings in Q2. For Q3, assuming currency exchange rates remain the same as they are now, currency should have a 2% to 3% positive effect on revenue and have a $0.06 positive effect on EPS depending on rounding.
In terms of the results for Q2, we had another excellent quarter of execution. Remaining performance obligations, or RPO, ended the quarter at $523.3 billion, up 433% from last year and up $68 billion since the end of August, driven by contracts signed with meta, NVIDIA and others as we continue to diversify our customer backlog. RPO expected to be recognized in the next 12 months grew 40% year-over-year compared with 25% last quarter and 21% last year.
Total cloud revenue, which includes both applications and infrastructure, was up 33% at $8 billion representing a significant acceleration from the 24% growth rate reported last year. Cloud revenue now accounts for half of Oracle's overall revenue.
Cloud infrastructure revenue was $4.1 billion, up 66% with GPU-related revenue growing 177%. Oracle's cloud infrastructure businesses continue to grow much faster than our competitors. Cloud database services revenue was up 30% with autonomous database revenue up 43% and multi-cloud consumption up 817%. Cloud applications revenue was $3.9 billion and up 11%. Our strategic back-office applications revenue was $2.4 billion and up 16%. As we finish combining our industry-based cloud apps and our Fusion cloud apps under 1 selling organization in each region across the world, we have been seeing increasing cross-selling synergies and that are expected to drive higher cloud applications growth rates in the future.
All in, total revenues for the quarter were $16.1 billion, up 13% and higher than the 9% growth reported in Q2 last year, continuing our trend of accelerating total revenue growth. Operating income grew 8% to $6.7 billion. Non-GAAP EPS was $2.26, up 51%, while GAAP EPS was $2.10, up 86%. We recognized a pretax gain of $2.7 billion in the quarter, stemming from the sale of our interest in Ampere.
Turning to cash flow. Operating cash flow in Q2 was $2.1 billion, while free cash flow was a negative $10 billion and CapEx was $12 billion, reflecting the investments being made to support our accelerating growth. As a reminder, the vast majority of our CapEx investments are for revenue-generating equipment that is going into our data centers and not for land, buildings or power that collectively are covered via leases. Oracle does not pay for these leases until the completed data centers and accompanying utilities are delivered to us. Rather, the equipment CapEx is purchased very late in the data center production cycle, allowing us to quickly convert cash spent into revenues earned as we provision cloud services to our contracted and committed customers.
In terms of funding our growth, there are a variety of sources available to us throughout our debt structure in public bond, bank and private debt markets. In addition, there are other financing options through customers that may bring their own chips to be installed in our data centers and suppliers who may lease their chips rather than sell them. Both of these options enable Oracle to synchronize our payments with our receipts and borrow substantially less than those people are modeling. As a foundational principle we expect and are committed to maintaining our investment-grade debt rating.
Turning to guidance. Let me start with the impact of the added RPO that occurred in Q2 on our future results. The vast majority of these bookings relate to opportunities where we have near-term capacity available, which means we can convert the added backlog to revenue sooner. The result is we now expect $4 billion of additional revenue in FY '27. Our full year FY '26 revenue expectation of $67 billion remains unchanged. However, given the added RPO this quarter that can be monetized quickly starting next year. We now expect fiscal 2026 CapEx will be about $15 billion higher than we forecasted after Q1. Finally, we are confident that our customer backlog is at a healthy level, and then we have the operational and financial strength to execute successfully.
While we continue to experience significant and unprecedented demand for our cloud services, we will pursue further business expansion only when it meets our profitability requirements and the capital is available on favorable terms. As it relates to specific guidance for Q3. Total cloud revenue is expected to grow from 37% to 41% in constant currency and is expected to grow from 40% to 44% in USD. Total revenues are expected to grow from 16% to 18% in constant currency and are expected to grow from 19% to 21% in USD. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 12% to 14% and be between $1.64 and $1.68 in constant currency and grow between 16% and to 18% and be between $1.70 and $1.74 in USD. And with that, I'll turn it over to Clay.
Thank you, Doug. Our infrastructure business has grown at an accelerating 66% year-over-year. You are well aware of the strong demand for AI infrastructure, but multiple segments across OCI are also contributing to this accelerating growth rate, including cloud native, dedicated regions and multi-cloud. Our diversity of capabilities within infrastructure differentiates us from AI infrastructure NeoClouds.
Our unique combination of infrastructure and applications differentiates us from other hyperscalers -- we have ambitious achievable goals for capacity delivery worldwide. OCI now operates 147 live customer-facing regions with 64 more regions planned. In the last quarter, we handed over close to 400 megawatts of data center capacity to our customers. We also delivered 50% more GPU capacity this quarter than Q1. Our super cluster in Abilene, Texas is on track with more than 96,000 NVIDIA Grace Blackwell G200 delivered. We also began delivering AMD MI-355 capacity to customers this quarter.
Our pace of capacity delivery continues to accelerate. We continue to see strong demand for AI infrastructure across training and inferencing. We follow a very rigorous process before accepting customer contracts. This process ensures that we have all the necessary ingredients to deliver to customer success at margins that make sense for our business.
We analyze land and power for data center buildings component supply, including GPUs, network gear and optics, labor costs for all phases of construction and low voltage work, engineering capacity to design, build and operate revenue and profitability and capital investments required. Only when all these components come together, do we accept customer contracts, having the confidence we can deliver on schedule with the highest quality. As Doug said, this quarter, we contracted for an additional $68 billion of RPO. These contracts will quickly add revenue and margin to our infrastructure business.
We continue to carefully evaluate all future infrastructure investments investing only when we have alignment across all necessary components to ensure profitable delivery for our customers. The holiday season is peak period for many of our retail and consumer customers. It is our responsibility at OCI deliver the most secure, highest performance and highest availability infrastructure to support these customers at the scale they need. Uber has now surpassed 3 million cores on OCI and powering their highest traffic ever this Halloween. Temu scaled to nearly 1 million cores for Black Friday and Cyber Monday. In addition, we also supported thousands of other customers across our retail and other applications through their largest and most successful holiday period yet.
OCI is constantly expanding in features and services. We recently launched Acceleron, delivering enhanced networking to all OCI customers and other services like our AI agent service. However, we cannot deliver everything ourselves, and we rely on our rapidly expanding partner community to provide the best experience on OCI. We added new AI models from Google, OpenAI and AI to ensure our customers have the latest and greatest AI capabilities. Our marketplace consumption has grown 89% year-over-year, powered by partners like Broadcom and Palo Alto. Those same partners drive OCI consumption by building their SaaS businesses on OCI. TaloAlto released their SaaS and Prisma Access platform on OCI and Cyber Region and new fold digital continue to scale their businesses rapidly. These partnerships make our ecosystem richer, which helps our customers, and that growth translates directly into more OCI growth as our partners build their solutions on our infrastructure.
Oracle database services see increasing demand across all clouds. Multi-cloud database consumption has increased 817% year-over-year. We launched 11 multi-cloud regions this quarter, bringing us to 45 reasons live across AWS, Azure and GCP with 27 more planned over the next months. We see increasing customer demand with billions in identified pipeline.
We launched 2 important programs this quarter for multi-cloud. The first is multi-cloud universal credits, which enables customers to commit once to Oracle database services and use them anywhere in any cloud with the same price and flexibility. The second is our multi-cloud channel reseller program. which enables customers to procure Oracle database services through their preferred channel partners. We also launched 9 services across the different clouds, such as Oracle autonomous AI lake caps.
This combination of the best services, universal availability, consistent and easy pricing and procurement and partner support is accelerating the adoption of Oracle database services across our entire customer base. OCI is the only full cloud available to individual customers. We launched Dedicated Reason 25, which provides the full capability of OCI in a tiny 3 Rack footprint. OCI is also the only cloud that enables partners to become cloud providers themselves through our alloy program, and our new footprint is available for all alloy providers. Dedicated region and alloy consumption grew 69% year-over-year. We launched 1 dedicated region for IskaGroup in Oman, and both NTT Data and SoftBank launched on alloy region each this quarter. This brings our live dedicated regions to 39 with 25 more planned.
In summary, the 4 segments of our infrastructure business are growing at incredible rates. This will contribute to a continued acceleration in our infrastructure revenue in the coming quarters. Customers are choosing OCI for its performance optimized architecture unrelenting focus on security, consistently low and predictable pricing and unmatched depth in database and enterprise integrations. Those priorities have been our strategy from the beginning and are the driving force behind this growth. OCI is a cost state of reinvention, and you can see the value that it has for our customers. When you combine our commitment to deliver the best in performance, efficiency and security with the growing customer demand for cloud infrastructure services we are seeing, I couldn't be more excited about what's coming next. And with that, over to Larry.
Thank you very much, Clay. Over the years, Oracle has developed software in 3 important areas: database applications and the Oracle Cloud. We used AI to make our database software and our Autonomous software eliminates human labor and human error. Thus lowering operating costs and making our systems faster, more reliable and more secure. Now with the development of the Oracle AI database, and the Oracle AI data platform, we're bringing all 3 layers of our software stacked together to solve another very important problem. Enabling the latest and most powerful AI models to do multistep reasoning on all your private enterprise data while keeping that data private and secure.
Training AI models on public data is the largest, fastest-growing business in history. AI models reasoning on private data will be an even larger and more valuable business. Oracle databases contain most of the world's high-value private data. Oracle applications also hold huge amounts of exceptionally valuable private data. The Oracle Cloud includes all the top AI models, OpenAI chat GPT, XAI rock, Google Gemini and Metalma Oracle's new database and AI data platform, but the latest versions of Oracle applications enables all of those AI models to do multistep reasoning on your database and application data while keeping that data private and secure.
All our database and application customers want to do this. because for the first time, they get a unified view of all of their data. AI models can respond to a single inquiry, by resonating across all your databases, all of your applications. By treating all of your data holistically, the combination of AI models plus the Oracle AI database and data platform, breaks down the walls that isolate and fragment your data. The Oracle AI data platform makes all your data, all your data accessible to AI models, not just Oracle databases and Oracle applications the data in the Oracle databases and Oracle applications, but data from other databases, cloud storage from any cloud, even data from your own custom applications. are accessible to AI models using the Oracle AI data platform.
Using our AI data platform, you can unify all your data and reason on all of your data using the very latest AI models. This is the key to finally unlocking all the value in all your data. Very soon through the lens of AI you will be able to see everything happening in your business as it happens. Mike, over to you.
Thanks, Larry. As Doug shared, the total revenue growth of 13% in constant dollars. I think it's worth noting that consecutive quarters now where total revenue growth has been in double digits. So a solid quarter and we see even better days ahead of us. So let me break down a few of the numbers a bit further, and I'll do so all in constant currency. Cloud applications revenue was up 11%, and that brings us to about a $16 billion annualized run rate. Within that, Fusion ERP up 17%. Fusion SCM, up 18%. Fusion HCM, up 14%. NetSuite grew by 13%. Fusion CX is up 12%. And in our industry cloud, specifically hospitality, construction, retail, banking, restaurants, local governments and communications, all combined were up 21% in the quarter.
So big growth rates on a big base. In our health care business, we now have 274 customers live in production on our clinical AI agent, and that number continues to rise daily. Also in health care, our brand-new Ali-based ambulatory EHR is generally available and that has received U.S. regulatory approval. And finally, in health care, in Q3, we expect both our bookings and our revenue to accelerate materially.
So overall, Cloud apps were up 11% on a bigger base. This is very meaningful because we see this business as continuing to accelerate going forward. We achieved this growth while we also undertook a major sales force reorg in many regions throughout the world. And this is something we've been talking about for many years, and that is the synergies between our back-office applications and our industry applications.
We're seeing more and more deals where our industry apps are pulling fusion or the fusion apps or pulling the industry apps. And as a result of seeing more and more deals, we're also seeing larger deals with more components. So recently, we combined our industry application sales team and our Fusion sales teams into a single selling organization. This enables our sellers to have more strategic 1 Oracle conversations with our customers to sell higher and to sell more.
And then when you think about our very large installed base of on-premise application customers, these strategic conversations are driving upgrades. And you've heard us say before, just moving a customer to the cloud results in a 3 to 5x annual revenue lift compared to support revenue. Now on top of all of that, top of the sales force, the 1 Oracle go-to-market water go-to-market motions, the industry suites think about combining our AI data platform with this unmatched suite of applications.
This creates an incredibly unique opportunity for our customers to gain value very quickly from enterprise-grade AI. The combination allows customers to unite the industry-leading foundational models with company-specific proprietary data, as Larry mentioned, much of which comes from the Oracle applications. And of course, the AIA data platform also ties in non-Oracle applications, competitive data sources like MongoDB or snowlink, object stores, and even complete bespoke unstructured data.
So we think this allows our customers to very easily build enterprise, AI agents and applications that leverage built in, not bolted on, but built in AI to transform their business. So just to repeat, AI, of course, is a great CI play, but it's also a broader software play for Oracle. It's driving growth in our applications, in our database businesses as well. Let me highlight a few key wins. In communications, the communications industry, digital and Bridge Holdings, selected ERP and SCM at the hot Salom Telecom SCM. Motor oil solutions, ERP, SCM and CX. Team Brazil, who is the country of Brazil is 5G leader just signed a new 5-year expansion to accelerate AI adoption and to transform customer experience at scale, all built on OCI. This actually -- this 5-year deal was an expansion or extension of a partnership that began with Tim Brazil's full data center migration to OCI back in 2021.
So they're now building AI agents that are powering real customer interactions, including the Conta agent which compares bills for customers across months and explains variations automatically already in the pilot, 18% faster issue resolution with the AI agents built on OCI. -- expecting even further improvements as the rollout continues. They've got 24 projects in motion, 7 of them are already in production. It's just a matter of months, 6 more launching soon all enabled by a multi-cloud architecture with Oracle as a key AI infrastructure partner. Already as a result of this initial rollout, customer satisfaction is up 16%, and call center flows are managing end-to-end with 90% accuracy, resulting in 30% faster services times for customers and a 15% fewer network failure interventions, all using predictive analytics and again, AI copilots still and OCI.
So we are the AI engine for Tim Brazil to enable personalization at national scale. In Financial Services, CoreCivic selected ERP, SCM and HCM. And Prime Life Technologies, ERP, Jewelers Mutual Insurance, ERP. In public sector, City of Costa Mesa, ERP, SCM, HCM, the United States Space Force, ERP and HCM and the city of Santa Ana, ERP, SCM and HCM. In the high-tech industry, SolarEdge Technologies, ERP and SCM, Zscaler, ERP, Dropbox, ERP and SEM. I could go on and on about these wins, but I think it gives you the flavor of just a sheer amount of multi-pillar wins and why it's so important that we have so many different options for customers and back office, front office.
In terms of go-lives, we had 330 cloud apps customer go-lives this quarter. That's multiple go-lives per day. Virgin Atlantic Airways went live in September on Fusion ERP and HCM and payroll. Broadridge just recently relaunched our Fusion ERP and EPM go-live. LifePoint Health just went live on their third wave of Fusion ERP, and HCM and Saudi Telecom is live on Fusion SCM, with ERP and HCM to follow soon. DocuSign is now live on Fusion data intelligence.
Again, I could go on about the go lives with 330 of them in the quarter. Gives you a flavor of some of the really important go-lives that we had recently. The cloud application deferred revenue is up 14%. That is higher than the Cloud revenue growth of 11%, just to reinforce my earlier statements that we expect continued apps growth acceleration.
So a solid quarter across the board. We're on the back end of a sales reorg that was focused on unified selling across our applications portfolio. We're seeing a clear AI halo effect for our cloud applications, which is driving upgrades, our AI data platform, combined with our applications is an absolute conversation changer, and it brings the Oracle database and all of our applications into the center of the modern agentic enterprise. Looking ahead, we're executing well on a big and growing pipeline, and I expect revenue and earnings growth to accelerate off an even larger base. With that, Ken, I'll turn it back to you.
Thank you, Mike. Chip, if you could please poll the audience for questions. .
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
2. Question Answer
Congratulations in a particular shout out to Mahesh and the team for standing up a massive amount of capacity in this quarter. My question is for Clay or maybe Doug. Oracle is clearly the destination of choice for the most sophisticated AI customers, but this is a far more capital-intensive proposition unlike any business Oracle has ever been in before. Very specifically, how much money does Oracle need to raise to fund its AI growth plans ahead.
Thanks for the question, Brad. This is Clay. So look, I'll answer that question in 2 parts. First, let me give you kind of the reason why it's hard to answer that question exactly. So -- the thing I think that a lot of people don't understand is that we actually have a lot of different options for how we go about delivering this capacity to customers. There's obviously the way that people think about it, which is we buy all the hardware upfront. And as we -- as I talked about it in my financial analyst meeting, we don't actually incur any expenses for these large data centers until they're actually operational.
So then it goes on to, well, how do you pay and what's the kind of cash flows look like for the stuff that goes into the data center. Well, we have some other interesting models that we've been working on. One of them is that customers can actually bring their own chips. And in those models, Oracle obviously doesn't have to incur any capital expenditures upfront for that model.
Similarly, we have different models that we're working on with different vendors, where some vendors are actually very interested in the model where they rent their capacity rather than selling that capacity. And as you can imagine, that comes with different cash flow impacts that are favorable and reduce the overall borrowing needs and capital required for Oracle.
So as you can imagine, as we look at all of these kind of commitments, we will use a in a variety of those such that we minimize the overall cost of capital. as well as, in certain cases, we'll be raising our own funds. As part of that, I think it's important that everyone understand that we're committed to maintaining our investment-grade debt rating.
So now to give you some more specifics. What I would say is we've been reading a lot of analyst reports, and we've read quite a few that show an expectation of upwards of $100 million for Oracle to go out and kind of complete these build-outs. And based on what we see right now, we expect we will need less, if not substantially less money raised than that amount to go and fund this build out. So hopefully, that helps answer your question, Brad.
our next question comes from the line of Ben Reitzes with Melius Research.
Appreciate it. Good to speak with you. In light of the answer to that question, the path for OCI margins seems very important to improving the EBITDA and cash flow. So at the Analyst Meeting, you said margins for AI workloads for OCI would be in the 30% to 40% range over the life of a customer contract. I guess my question is how long will it take your AI margins across all your OCI data centers to ramp to that level? And what needs to happen to get there?
Yes. Thanks for the question, Ben. Look, the answer is it really depends. So the good thing is that as I mentioned earlier, we don't actually incur any expenses for the data centers until they're actually built up and running. And then we highly optimized the process by which we actually put capacity in and then are able to hand that over to customers, which means that the period of time where we're incurring expenses without that kind of revenue and the gross margin profile that we talked about is really on the order of a couple of months.
So in that scenario, that time period is not material. So a couple of months is not a long time. The -- what actually matters much more is the overall mix of the data centers that we have online, right, and how they're growing compared to the total amount that we're scaling across the world. And so I think as we go through this buildup phase, right now, we're in a phase of very rapid build-out without the majority of the capacity online, obviously, the aggregate mix is going to be lower. But as we actually get the majority of this capacity online, and that's really our focus, the best way to improve margins quickly is to actually go out and deliver capacity faster. That ends up very rapidly ensuring that we get to that 30% to 40% gross margin profile for all AI data centers.
Your next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi.
And this question is for Larry or Clay. So Oracle has clearly established itself as a leading provider for AI infrastructure to AI labs and in some cases, enterprise clients. How are you thinking about the opportunity to sell additional platform services such as database, middleware, other pieces of the portfolio? Similar to how we saw cloud providers add that on at the early days of the public cloud space? And what might be some of the similarities or differences that you see with the emerging AI platform as a service market versus the traditional cloud platform as a service market.
Well let me start with traditional cloud and traditional Oracle database. So I think the biggest change we've made there was to make our database available in everyone's cloud. So you can buy the world database at Google or Amazon. -- it's available at Microsoft Azure as well as OCI. So that was the most -- maybe that was the first move we made. We call it multi-cloud, and we actually embed OCI data centers within the other clouds. So they get the latest, greatest version of the Oracle Database.
Second thing we did is we actually converted the Oracle database or added capabilities to the Oracle Database. -- to allow you to vectorize all of your data. So it's a vector database. Some people call that an AI database. So it's designed to make data available to models. You can then -- once you vectorize your data, you can place AI models on top of that. and the AI models can understand what's in the database and reason with the data that's in the database.
So we think that combination of making our -- the data available on our database also accessible by AI models dramatically increases the value of the data. We think that's very -- so far, none of the other large-scale databases have been able to do that. We can do that not only we can do that and keep your data secure. That's 1 of the bigger issues. We have to scale it, keep everything reliable, keep it secure -- and we actually had all of those capabilities and features to the Oracle database.
So that was step 2. First, multi-cloud, second vectorize all the data and make it accessible by all of the popular AI models. Third step. Well, it's great that we're making the Oracle data, Oracle database data available to these AI models. The companies actually have data that's not stored in an Oracle database is not stored in an Oracle application. So we built an AI lake house, we call the AI data platform that actually points to and vectorizes all of your data, whether it's in an object store in different clouds, whether it's a bespoke application whether it's in another database. It really will take the universe of your data, that catalog that data, vectorize it and allow an LLM to do multi-step reasoning on all of that data.
Now the thing that's really remarkable about that is, think about asking 1 query, asking 1 question. And the model looks at all of your data. Normally, when you ask a question, you have to direct it to this database or this application. You can't say, look, I'd just like to know who's next customer I should be selling to. I'm a salesperson in territory. I'm looking -- I want to look at all the accounts in my territory. And I want to see who's the best prospect in my territory. Well, that means looking at contractual data, means looking at publicly available data. That means looking at our sales system, at our support system, all of these separate systems.
Well, suddenly, all of that data is unified. We take all of your data and unify it, so you can ask a single question and the AI models can find the answer to that question regardless of what data store is in. that's really a unique proposition, and we think that thing is going to turbocharge the use of our database and the use of our cloud dramatically.
Your next question comes from the line of Brent Field with Jefferies & Company.
Question for Larry and Clay, on the fungibility of your infrastructure. What would you have to do the converted data center from 1 customer or another, such as if 1 of the larger customers was unable to pay?
Yes. Thanks, Brent. So I think the first thing to understand is that what we deliver for our AI infrastructure is exactly the same cloud that we deliver for all of our customers. We made specific choices at the beginning of OCI around bare metal virtualization and the way in which we do things like secure wipe of hardware, et cetera. But the reason I bring that up take as an example, anyone right now with a credit card to show up and sign up for any 1 of those hundreds of regions that I talked about earlier, and you can spend up a bare metal computer and as quickly as a few minutes. And at the end of that, you can turn it off, and I will recycle that, and I can hand it to the customer in less than an hour. And so when you ask the question of, well, how long does it take transfer capacity from 1 customer to another, it's on the order of hours. And what actually I think is kind of a corollary to that question is, well, how long does it take customers to adopt it.
And thankfully, we have a lot of experience getting more than 700 AI customers on our platform, including the vast majority of the large model providers already run on OCI and when we give them capacity, they typically spend that capacity up in the order of 2 to 3 days. And so when I think about how long does it take for me to take capacity and hand it to the customer, it is not a laborious process. It is not a unique process. And something else I would say that I think a lot of people don't realize about our cloud is this is actually happening all the time.
So we have lots of customers that might sign up for a few thousand of 1 type of GPU and then they'll come back and say, well, actually, I'd like to get even more capacity somewhere else? Well, you take this back. And we do that all day every day, and we're constantly moving customers around and adding aggregate net capacity.
So we have the technology. We have a secure base for which to do that, and we also have a customer base of a lot of demand such that whenever we find ourselves with capacity that's not being used, it very quickly gets allocated and provisioned.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Moerdler with Sanford Bernstein.
Congrats on the quarter. Doug, you gave some color earlier tonight that I'd like to dig in on. Clay presented a slide at the Financial Analyst Meeting, where he showed the revenue and expenses for a single data center. Doug and Clay, can you talk about the cash flow for that same data center, starting with the commitment for the data center and then the hardware and how that flows into becoming cash flow positive? And then how that rolls up across multiple data centers? Any color would be really appreciated.
Sure. Happy to answer, Mark. So as we talked about earlier in this call, -- it starts with the actual data center itself and the power capacity along with it. And the way in which we structure that is that we incur no cash expenses until that's fully delivered and provisioned and fit for purpose. So then it really comes down to what does the cash flow look like for the capacity that's going inside the data center. And as I talked about earlier, that really depends on kind of the business model and the financial model that we've used for procuring that.
In some cases, customers actually want to bring their own hardware. In which case, we don't have any capital expense, and it's really around the data center itself, possibly some networking gear as well as human labor costs. We have other models where vendors want to rent that capacity in which case, those rent payments start when the capacity is provision for the customer. And so customer cash flow comes in, we're then taking that cash flow and pushing that out to all of the different suppliers.
And then obviously, you've got the model where Oracle takes its own cash, pays upfront for the hardware and then put the capacity in. That's obviously the most cash-intensive upfront and then there's depreciation schedule over the next several years. So it really depends on the exact business and financial model used for each of the data centers.
And then you ask, well, how do they layer together? Well, thankfully. They're not -- we don't need calculus for this one. Basic arithmetic is enough because they actually just layer on top of each other. So if you have a time schedule for 1 data center and a time schedule for a second data center, the cash flows add together. And obviously, if a data center comes in sooner, you'll have the expenses as well as revenue coming in sooner if a data center moves out and the expenses and the revenue also move out.
Your final question comes from Don DiFucci with Guggenheim Securities.
Okay. I won't make you kiss my ring. It's actually John DiFucci. Anyway -- I'm sorry, listen, a lot of my questions on infrastructure. We've already been asked, and they're really important questions because that's a big part -- that's your big part of your growth. I have a question on the Applications business. Mike, you said applications are going to accelerate this year? Why the confidence in this business when all your large SaaS peers are seeing just the opposite where growth is decelerating, especially because we thought that something similar about Oracle's application business last year, we didn't really start to see it until the fourth quarter.
We've heard some things in the field around 1 Oracle, your go-to-market motion where apps and infrastructure are more combined versus separate. And you also talked about combining vertical and horizontal labs teams here. Is that it? Is it mostly go-to-market? Is there something more about the products or something else that we should be thinking about?
Well, yes, thanks for the question, Jeff. First, I think it's a combination of things. But let me just start with what I think is happening in the industry. All of our competitors are largely in the best-of-breed business because they're not in the applications business in totality. They're not in the back office business. They're not in the industry business and they're not in everything in between. They're not in the front of the house, the back of the house in the middle of the house, -- we are the only applications company in the world that's selling complete application suites. Then you add in baked in AI, the AI halo baked in AI right into regulatory applications. So we're over 400 AI features live infusion already.
I mentioned 274 customers live on our clinical AI agent, the go-lives for these clinical AI agents, which are a new SaaS applications for us, are measured in a matter of weeks. So you're looking at an industry like health care, where it would take months or years to get anything done with that magnitude. We -- and by the way, John, the customers are implementing these things all by themselves. They don't need us to help them. You just roll them out and they work. So we're in the applications industry suite business. We're building AI into our back-office applications, our front-of-clas -- and we are building applications that are also AI agents themselves. They are, in fact, IH. So that's why you see the growth rates in our industry applications of 21%. And in the quarter.
Our Fusion ERP is up 17%. SCM up 18%, HCM up 14%; CX 12%. Again, all on a bigger base. Then I think the next piece of this is you're adding the AI data platform. So if you'd like an industry suite of applications, then you'd like to create your own AI agents. You like to create and unlock your own enterprise data on top of it all. We are the only -- all of those ingredients for a customer. And I think as you look at customers of spend on best of brew because the integration costs are so high, and it's hard to bolt AI on all that because you're actually not retiring anything in the process. We're in a very unique position. And I think we're starting to see the numbers too, John, with the deferred revenue for apps growing at 14% now faster than the in-quarter revenue growth of 11%. For all those reasons, I'm optimistic on our apps business going forward. It's a continued growth engine for Oracle.
As you were talking, you sort of clarified in my mind, when I think of an Oracle, I used to think -- I thought of it when I started to hear about it as a go-to-market motion, but it's more than that. It's actually -- it's a product thing, too. It's everything.
Thank you, John.
A telephonic replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our Investor Relations website. Thank you for joining us today. And with that, I'll now turn the call back to Tiffany for closing.
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Oracle — Q2 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $16,1 Mrd (+13% YoY)
- Cloud: $8,0 Mrd (+33% YoY), nun 50% des Gesamtumsatzes
- RPO: $523,3 Mrd (+433% YoY); RPO zur Erkennung in 12M +40% YoY
- Gewinn: Non‑GAAP EPS $2,26 (+51%); GAAP EPS $2,10 (+86%); Vorsteuergewinn $2,7 Mrd aus Ampere‑Verkauf
- Cash & CapEx: Oper. CF $2,1 Mrd; Free CF -$10 Mrd; CapEx $12 Mrd (hohe Investitionen)
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- AI‑Infrastruktur: Massive Kapazitätsausweitung (147 live Regionen, +64 geplant; Supercluster Abilene ~96.000 G200 GPUs). Fokus auf profitable, termingerechte Lieferung.
- AI‑Datenstrategie: Oracle AI Database + AI Data Platform sollen Multistep‑Reasoning über private Daten ermöglichen und Daten aus beliebigen Clouds integrieren.
- Apps & Vertrieb: Zusammenlegung von Industrie‑ und Fusion‑Vertrieb zur Cross‑Sell‑Beschleunigung; 330 Cloud‑Apps Go‑Lives; AI‑Halo treibt Upgrades.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑26: Umsatzprognose unverändert bei $67 Mrd; zusätzliches RPO erwartet $4 Mrd in FY‑27.
- CapEx: Erwartet ~ $15 Mrd höher als nach Q1 prognostiziert (stärkerer Investitionsplan).
- Q3: Cloud‑Wachstum 37–41% CC (40–44% USD); Gesamterlöse +16–18% CC (19–21% USD); Non‑GAAP EPS $1,64–1,68 CC ($1,70–1,74 USD).
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Finanzierungsbedarf: Nachfrage nach Kapital für Build‑outs; Management sagt, viele Modelle (Kunden bringen Chips, Vendor‑Rentals), erwartet deutlich weniger Kapitalbedarf als manche Analystenschätzungen (~$100 Mrd).
- OCI‑Margen: Ziel 30–40% für AI‑Workloads über Vertragslaufzeit; Tempo hängt vom schnellen Bereitstellen von Kapazität und Mix ab.
- Fungibilität & Cashflow: Kapazität kann in Stunden transferiert werden; Cashflow pro Rechenzentrum hängt vom Finanzierungsmodell (Kauf vs. Miete vs. Kunden‑Hardware) ab.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Bewertung: Starke Cloud‑ und AI‑Dynamik legt solides Wachstumspotenzial nahe; hohe RPO‑Basis unterstützt Folgejahre, aber deutlich erhöhte CapEx und vorübergehend negatives Free Cash Flow erhöhen Risiko und erfordern Fortschritte beim Margen‑Ramp von OCI.
Oracle — Shareholder/Analyst Call - Oracle Corporation
1. Management Discussion
I'm just a little blown away how big this has all gotten here. I feel like I'm way high this time. If those of you here last year, recall that it was definitely a small room, and it's much bigger this time. Our attendance in this event right here is up 70%. The show itself was way up. And I just have a few slides because I know that as much as you like hearing from me, there's more interesting things coming here.
So you've seen it everywhere. AI changes everything. And it's true. It's in the signage. It's in the presentations. It's everywhere, except for this. So kidding aside, I'm not going to read out the whole slide, but it's important to remember here that we will be making forward-looking statements.
These statements do come with material risks and uncertainties. So please refer to our filings 10-K and 10-Q with the SEC for more information about those. You'll also see us using non-GAAP financial measures. A couple of the presenters today will be using those. So just as a reminder, that they're intended to be used in conjunction with GAAP measures, and those can be found in our financial statements, of course.
And then a number of our execs will be talking about -- for informational purposes about where we're going from a technology and service standpoint. And just a reminder, look, it's not a commitment to deliver any material code or functionality that were being discussed today.
So you're going to see these slides, each of the presenters will have some or all of these slides. They will just make reference that, as Ken mentioned earlier, here's the slides Ken referred to, this is what they're talking about are these 3 slides. So let's talk about the agenda.
We're going to start with Clay in a moment here. And then he will obviously be talking about OCI and Oracle Infrastructure; followed by Mike, who will take a discussion first initially on the application business and then Mike will then continue on with a deeper dive into Oracle Health and our embedded finance businesses. That will take us to lunch, at which point, Larry will take the stage, he'll be talking about AI and database and then Doug will come up with the financial outlook, and then we'll do a Q&A. Larry, Mike and Clay do Q&A. And then so we should end up somewhere around 2:00 this afternoon.
So with that in mind, let me get out of the way and let's bring up Clay.
Thank you, Ken. Ken still has 1 minute and 37 seconds, which I was really depending on. So okay, now my timers -- okay, now I'm late. I don't know what to do. Okay, thank you all for coming. I really appreciate it.
To give you just kind of a quick overview of how I'm going to go. I'm going to talk for what is going to feel like far too long. We'll then have a short section where Mark Hura will come up and talk for another section of what feels like quite some time and then I'll have a bit more details on some financials, and then we'll hand it over to Mike.
So we've got a few minutes. At the end of this, there's a few things that I want you to walk away with. I want you to understand the overall growth trajectory of the OCI business. Obviously, we've got myself, we've got Mike, we've got Seema, we've got a lot of people, Larry's coming.
We're talking about a huge number of our businesses. I'm going to focus right now on the cloud infrastructure business. I'll be talking about the different segments that make up that business. And when I talk about these segments, obviously, they are -- the ways in which we think about them, about how they grow, about who the customers are, about the products that they want, how they consume. So we'll explain that to you.
I'll explain what's driving the growth in each of these segments and also why those customers are choosing to invest more and more with Oracle. The main goal is at the end of this, I think you'll understand why we're so excited about where OCI is at and the great growth prospects that come ahead for OCI. Okay. So these are the slides that Ken talked about. I have to say that you can read them. Those are the slides, and one more, and one more. Now we're -- okay, now we're done.
So I mentioned different segments. So this very simple equation of enterprise plus distributed cloud plus cloud natives, plus AI infrastructure equals hyper growth. And I'll go into each of these segments specifically, and I'll talk about why we break our business up into those segments.
The thing to get at a high level, though, is that all of these actually today have very good growth rates, but they're actually accelerating, right? And a big part of the reason why these different segments are all accelerating is because they're symbiotic. And I'll try to take a minute here to explain what I mean by that.
Let's say that you have a customer that shows up, and they're an enterprise customer. The traditional customers that you think of when you think of Oracle, right? They have a long history with us. They're a database customer. They also have some of our applications. They might move those things to our cloud.
As they do that, one of the things that they want is they want obviously the great functionality that we provide at Oracle. They also want other ISVs. Maybe they want some security products. Maybe they want some new advanced networking features. Well, as Oracle, we don't provide all of that, but we have a great partnerships.
I'll talk about some of those and maybe you have an ISV that shows up. And well, they're much more of a cloud-native company. And those -- the demand from those enterprise customers brings those ISVs to our platform, right? And those ISVs join, and they can drive more and more overall compute and storage and networking consumption growth, and they're happy because they provide services that our enterprise customers consume.
The same thing is true for our distributed cloud customers. The fact that we actually offer not just the public cloud that we have today, but the fact that we go out and we offer our dedicated regions in our alloy business, that actually becomes an accelerator because our ISVs want that reach. So the fact that we have individual customers, say, in Japan that are building their own clouds that they operate and sell to their customers, our -- that also drives things like cloud natives.
When our AI infrastructure customers show up, they typically start by consuming raw infrastructure, but they quickly move on up the stack. They start consuming more of our compute storage and networking products. They also then move on to start doing things like consuming our applications. So as you look through these segments, we're experiencing this accelerating growth across all of them because as each segment on its own starts to grow, it actually helps the others grow faster.
Okay. So let's take a look at the enterprise segment. So I think you already understand what we call enterprises. Here's a great set of logos across the screen. But as I said, traditional companies, most companies have some Oracle, whether it be from database, our applications, our middleware, our industry applications, those customers are very pleased when they run on top of OCI.
So you see the current growth rate, right, 33% year-over-year growth for this segment from Q1 of FY '25 to Q1 of FY '26. However, contrast that with more than 1,500% growth rate in our multi-cloud database business. So the way to think about this is, up until very recently, you could only get the best of our data platform on one cloud, which was OCI. And we like that cloud, we think it's a great cloud. But we actually have extremely popular data platform services.
As of today, you can now get that data platform on all of the cloud providers. And that's why we see this very rapidly growing, right, multi-cloud database business. Okay. A bit more about why there was a margin range here. So when I talk about 65% to 80% as a range for gross margin. The reason for that is actually largely due to the mixture of services that those customers are consuming.
So as you can imagine, some customers end up being very, say, networking heavy. And networking, we're -- we think our networking is quite good, and we have a lot of IP in it, but not nearly as much IP in our networking stack as we do in, say, our database services. And so obviously, based on the differentiation we have in our services, we price them at different margin profiles and so there's a range of this based on the workloads that a customer brings to us.
And then I briefly want to talk about when I say contract to scale. What I mean by this is, there's a process that enterprises go through when choosing a cloud. Typically, they do a POC. They try things out for a while. They then move forward. There's a contracting process. And then once that's done, there's also now an implementation phase, right?
It takes -- people don't move their most mission-critical workloads overnight, right? And so as we see -- the reason I bring up this contract to scale is that we see it move -- the process of moving from initial product launch over to pipeline and then actually to committed contracts and then showing up as revenue, that process takes a certain amount of time for these types of customers, given the criticality of the workloads that they're bringing to OCI.
Okay. So a little bit about why they're choosing OCI. Well, the most obvious reason is because it's a combination of our ecosystem, right? We have cloud infrastructure, but we also have the world's best database with Oracle, autonomous AI database. We also have amazing applications, both horizontal and vertical, and we'll hear more about that in a few minutes.
But even beyond Oracle workloads, OCI is the best platform for enterprise workloads. We built OCI to make it very seamless for you to take an existing enterprise application and move that to our platform. That's very different than building a platform that was designed only for new applications to be written in the cloud.
We've been talking a lot about AI this week. We've been talking a lot about the AI data platform that brings together the great work we're doing with our gen AI models, the work that we're doing with our new AI database and the work that we're doing with our new agent service, all packaged together as part of our AI data platform.
That being available in all of the clouds makes it very easy for customers to pick Oracle as a place to put their data. And then, of course, enterprises do care about performance and they care about price and OCI is by far the best performance at the lowest price.
Okay, so here's an example of a specific customer, NASDAQ. A few years ago, they actually moved CapCloud over to OCI and runs exclusively on there. And obviously, far before that, they've been a database customer for a long time. But then more recently, they adopted Oracle database at AWS, which allows them to then bring their RegCloud to their different environments and be able to rely on X data across all of their different cloud ecosystem.
Okay, so let's now take a minute to talk about our distributed cloud. So when I talk about distributed cloud here, I really mean our dedicated regions and our alloys. So dedicated region is, you can get the entire OCI environment as of yesterday in just 3 racks and you can put that in your own data center.
A great example for that is someone like a Vodafone who bought 6 of our dedicated regions to take our full cloud experience and run it right next to their network on-premise. The other part of this business that we talk about is our alloy. So as an example, take someone like an NRI that bought dedicated region to begin with, but they're a technology company in Japan. They take our cloud, they add to it their differentiated IP, and they actually can go out and operate in a sovereign way and provide that to their customers in Japan.
So as you can see, it's a very good growth rate, right, growing 77% year-over-year already with an average deal size of $67 million. Now here, right, gross margin is in a range between 40% and 60%. And it's not because these things are just fundamentally less profitable, it goes back to what I said about the enterprise section, which is it's all based on the mix of the services that those people are consuming.
So when you have, say, a dedicated region that's almost exclusively used for database, the margin ends up being quite high. But a lot of our dedicated region and alloy customers, they're consuming a lot of essential infrastructure services, and those have a lower margin profile in general. And then when I talk here about how there's 60-plus dedicated and alloy regions globally, we have a very large pipeline of this.
And look, when someone shows up and they want a dedicated region, there's a time period where -- there's a time for us to get it to them, there's a time for them to put in the data center, there's a time to ramp it up. But what we've seen is we're planting a lot of these seeds, and as you can see here from this growth rate, this part of our business is growing very rapidly, and the customers keep coming back for more.
Okay. Why are these people picking our distributed cloud? It's really quite simple. Rather than talking about why our cloud solves their -- technologically, their needs are simple. They're typically in a regulated industry. They need sovereign control or they have things that they either don't or can't move to the public cloud and they want the benefits of the cloud right next to it.
Our distributed cloud offering is actually the only offering that solves these problems, right? If you go to anywhere else, they have a subset of the cloud, you have to pay a lot of money upfront. With us, you can get it in a very small form factor. You sign an universal credits commitment that allows you flexibility on what services you're going to consume.
We can deploy, like I said, in a small footprint very, very rapidly, and no one else offers a turnkey solution. The fact that, as Oracle, we both are in infrastructure and applications. That's something no one else does. And what that actually enables us to do with alloy is we could not build alloy and enable someone else to actually operate and run a cloud, if we didn't have all these great work that Steve and his team had done with Fusion.
So when we talk about alloys, it's not just OCI, it's OCI plus HCM plus our ERP system, plus our coding system plus service cloud. That way, we can actually provide a turnkey solution. And then, of course, another part of the reason why people like our dedicated regions, and you'll hear Mark talk about this with, I think, some customer examples later, is that when they buy our dedicated region or they buy alloy, it doesn't just our infrastructure. You can get a dedicated region and then you can also run our differentiated applications, both horizontal and vertical apps on that same infrastructure wherever you need it.
Okay. So here's an example of e&, previously known as Etisalat. So they started a few years ago with a dedicated region. They then expanded to have a second dedicated region for disaster recovery. They then expanded by adding GPUs to those dedicated regions. And then most recently, they expanded again by contracting for an alloy so they can serve sovereign workloads in the UAE.
That's an example of how these customers start small, right? We make them extremely happy and then they continue to grow and scale with us. And as we continue to add more and more of these customers, like I said, this business starts small, but the customers are seeing so much value, they all keep growing and growing and growing.
Okay. I promise you I'm not that bad at clicking. All right, cloud natives. So when we talk about cloud natives, the way I think about this is these are typically workloads and customers that have relatively few number of applications that consume a lot of infrastructure, right? ISVs typically fall into this business, but companies that have workloads that are very focused on, how do you rapidly scale up and scale down and take advantage of all of the benefits of the cloud.
So this segment of our business is growing very rapidly as well, with 49% year-over-year growth from Q1 FY '25 to Q1 FY '26 with an average deal size of almost $100 million, right? Again, gross margin range of 40% to 60%. A large part of the reason for this comes down to both the service mix that they choose, but also the size and the scale of their business.
So as you can imagine, this group can range from relatively big fish to very, very, very large fish, what you might call whales. And as part of that, with that size expectation, you come different expectations around overall pricing. One thing to think about here, though, is that these customers tend to ramp faster.
Typically, these customers might have some of their own on-premise, they have a platform that they can move very quickly. Zoom was an example. I don't know if anyone remembers, but COVID hit and Zoom actually moved from their existing infrastructure as well as in other clouds, they were up and running on OCI in 9 days. And so these are applications that you can ramp very quickly when there's motivation to do so. And so when these customers find out about us, they tend to be very large and they scale very fast.
Okay. So why are these customers choosing OCI? Well, primarily, it's about best price and performance. And the reason it matters so much to these customers is that typically, if you were to take their IT spend, typically for, say, smaller customers, the largest expense for them is labor costs. And their overall infrastructure spend tends to be a tiny portion.
For these types of customers, by far and away, the biggest expense for them is the actual infrastructure. And that's why having the best price performance and being the most secure matters to them. We also work with these customers through a combination of engineering partnerships. They -- and Mark will explain a bit more about this in a minute.
It's not enough that we just say, "Hey, here's what's on the truck." All of them, given their scale and their unique business, they might have some features they need, they might have some customizations they want of different hardware we haven't considered before. And the fact that as Oracle, we can actually go work with them, figure out how to implement all of that in a standardized way, right? Because what's important when we do this is that we don't fork our cloud, where there's like an UberCloud, which is different than a TikTok cloud, which is different than an OpenAI cloud.
We need to have one cloud that everyone can use, and it's our job to go in and put those features and functionality into the base product. So there's really important reasons why those customers are choosing us. It's really about those deep engineering relationships.
Okay. So an example of one of these companies is Cybereason. As I mentioned, they picked us because of our focus on performance, efficiency and security. Cybereason is a security company that focuses on endpoint protection. They have an amazing platform. They tested our platform, and they've quickly migrated a significant chunk of their infrastructure from GCP over to OCI. The reason for that is that moving to OCI save them more than 40% on their overall infrastructure spend, which directly goes to their bottom line given the type of business that they have and the scale at which they're growing.
Okay. So now I want to talk a bit more about AI infrastructure. So when I talk about AI infrastructure, AI means many different things. Here, I'm really talking about companies that want accelerators for either doing training or reasoning, both fit into this category. We have a lot of these customers, right?
If you take a look here, when we say there's more than 700 of these customers consuming on our platform, that doesn't mean there's 700 customers using AI, just to be clear, right? You hear Mike talk about it. We have thousands and thousands of customers using AI on our platform. This is people who show up and go, "No, I want some type of accelerated computing, whether it be an NVIDIA GPU or an AMD GPU or as we're rolling out different accelerators, any type of accelerated hardware, that's all we're counting for you to fit into this category.
This, as you can imagine, is growing very rapidly, right? 117% year-over-year growth and overall annualized consumed revenue. The margin is different. And the reason for the margin range here is less to do with product mix because in general, these customers actually are pretty well defined on which types of products they want.
A lot of it comes down to the location and how efficient we can be. So as an example, as we continue to be more and more efficient, as we can go in and design better networks, so we can optimize our data center build-out, as we can do things like power capping, that then allows us to have a higher margin.
And in some cases, the other part of the reason for the margin range is, obviously, just like I talked about with cloud natives, there's customers of different sizes, right? Typically, these customers are relatively large to begin with, although there's a lot of very small ones, but they can scale extremely high, as I think all of you know.
Okay. So why they're picking OCI? Well, part of it is, is that we move very quickly. We move quickly when things are stood up, but we also move even more quickly before things exist. So our ability to rapidly deliver the latest and the accelerators.
Networking matters a lot, right? Fundamentally, when people are buying a cluster, like yes, the actual accelerator matters, but all of these workloads are operating in a clustered fashion. That's true across training, especially, but even for inferencing, all of these inferencing is happening at a cluster level.
And then the fact that we actually have extremely efficient data center designs that allow us to optimize our power usage, which then translates into more -- either more power available for them or lower costs. And then it's not enough to just be really good at compute and networking. Storage is also critically important because these clusters are doing something with data, whether that be for training runs or for inferencing, they need access to a huge amount of context for these models to be valuable.
All right. So this is a slide of an example deal. I'm going to walk you through all of the different details. So as an example, let's imagine that somebody shows up and they want to buy approximately 1 gigawatt of GPU accelerators, right? And they sign a contract for 6 years, which would be 6 years at $10 billion a year, it's a $60 billion TCV.
Okay. Now here, I've broken the costs we have into 2 sections. One is what I'm calling land, data center and power. That's obviously the buildings, it's the actual power generation, it's the people cost to run that portion of the business, right? That ends up being about 35% of the cost to deliver that service.
Now if you add up compute, networking and storage, right, all the things that you put inside of that data center, that ends up being about 65% of the cost. Okay, so when -- say this deal is contracted and you have to build a data center from scratch, well, we actually align through the contracts that we do and the way in which we align our overall delivery, we don't pay for land, data center and power until it's actually delivered to us, okay? So let's say, it takes you a year to build a data center. During that year, we're not paying for anything.
Now there's a point at which and that's highlighted in this kind of left section before year 1 here, where the data center is working, and it's our job as Oracle to put all of the compute storage and networking inside of it, all right? During that time period, there's a cost, where we're paying for something, but we're not making revenue yet, right?
And as we can reduce that time, if I can go from 3 months to 2 months to 1 month, the amount of time that I'm paying for something that I'm not able to then provide to a customer, it goes way down, right? So in this example, of this example deal of $60 billion, I've written down here, okay, a 35% margin deal, right in the middle of that 30% to 40% margin range.
But the thing to understand is when I talk about this 35% margin, it doesn't just include each year after it's running. That 35% includes, right, the fact that there's a startup cost upfront. Now obviously, if you can imagine, if you were to put a demarcation line before year 1 starts, we have an expense with no compensating revenue yet.
And that can be happening across many different sites, right? We're building not one of these things, we're building 10, 20 of them at a time. And based on the delivery schedule, right, and our ability to ramp and put the capacity in there, you've got a waterfall across many of these different pieces of infrastructure where some are now starting up, some are now giving you a ton of cash flow off. And part of the job that we do is we're constantly laying those things together to understand how our overall business works.
So key takeaways from this slide. We spend a lot of our energy aligning our revenue and our expenses. The ramp-up time for this stuff has cost, but it's minimal, and it's something that we're continually optimizing. And the expense of that ramp-up is included in the gross margin. So when I talk about, "Hey, here's the gross margin range of one of these customers," we don't go in and assume, right, that, I don't know, some -- you're not accounting for these ramp-up expenses, the gross margin includes the assumptions around those ramp-up expenses.
Okay. Next. I've been talking to a lot of different customers and investors and reporters and analysts about, okay, how do we actually go out and we accelerate and scale this build out? Fundamentally, there is no problem. It's really just an opportunity for us to grow faster, right?
It's not -- there is no issue. There's just opportunities the way I see it. So when I think about what a huge amount of my time and energy goes into, it's about how do we actually enable ourselves and the industry to grow faster, given the unprecedented demand we're seeing for infrastructure like this. And the way that we're growing faster is that we're actually pulling together. The entire industry is coming together across data center providers, energy providers, hardware providers and capital providers. This is already happening all day, every day, right?
You see constant announcements of new business models being created of different ways to go out and minimize risk and grow this business faster. That's actually what's enabling the current growth. And I think you're going to continue to see from us and others, new models created to actually help grow this business faster and faster.
And so to understand the result of what happens when all these partnerships come together, let's take a look at the video to see what's actually possible.
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Okay. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to kind of just walk you through a little -- a few pictures about the video that we just saw to give you some more context.
So this is a site in Abilene, Texas. It's 1,100 acres across 8 total buildings. So what you're looking at right here that weird kind of quad thing with this thing in the middle, that's actually what we call one building. I know to me, it kind of looks like 5 buildings, but it turns out that apparently, we just don't have enough numbers, we couldn't get to that. Each of those individual pieces or data halls that are all part of one building.
In this location, there are more than 6,400 construction workers on site every day. And once we're complete with this campus, we provide nearly 1,700 jobs, direct jobs and even more indirect jobs. So on site, we have both grid power, and there's an existing substation as well as a new 1 gigawatt substation that's going in.
But in addition to that, there's also 300 megawatts of gas turbines that are installed to provide power to some of the initial buildings and also as partial backup power for the site.
Okay. So we started building this in May of 2024, and the entire campus will be completed in the middle of next year. The workloads for the customer for this site, which is OpenAI in the beginning, went live less than a year after the construction started. Each of these buildings is actually mechanically isolated. They're all networked together. So in that giant campus, all of these buildings are actually through a massive set of interconnections, both within the buildings as well as through very secure fiber between them that actually allows the entire cluster to function together as one giant supercluster. And once this is finalized, as of right now, this will be the largest supercomputer that's ever constructed.
Okay. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the details of data centers, but liquid cooling is something that's existed for a long time, but it's really gone from 0 to 100 very, very quickly. Liquid cooling, so these big pipes are actually the cooling liquid that then go in to cool these accelerators.
Sometimes people ask about, well, what about the water? Does this use a lot of water? The reality is no. This water is in a closed loop system. The actual annual consumption for each one of those buildings that you saw there, which is quite large and is 100 megawatts of power, actually consumes less water per year than a single-family home in the same region. So obviously, you have a lot of water when you first start it up, you have to fill up the swimming pool, but the -- because it's not evaporating all the time, it's a closed-loop system.
Okay. So an example of a customer that is choosing us for AI infrastructure. This is Modal Labs. They provide a developer platform for AI, ML and inferencing. They enable customers to easily fine-tune and do batch processing for AI workloads. They choose us because we have amazing infrastructure. We have the best bare metal compute available and they really appreciate the price performance advantages that we have, combined with our excellent networking.
And then what I want to do now is take a few minutes. I'm going to bring Mark Hura up to the stage, and he's going to talk a little bit about some of our customers and why they are choosing OCI across all these different segments. And at the end, I'll give a little bit more details on where we see OCI going over the next few years.
Mark?
Okay. My job is really very easy. Hi, Mark.
Hi, Clay.
We have mini segments of businesses.
We do.
Let's talk about enterprise. Why are enterprise customers choosing OCI and give us some examples of what it's like working with us.
Yes. So you gave some examples before in terms of why enterprise customers choose Oracle. And that has been our bread and butter for so many years around customers that have deployed Oracle applications, Oracle databases throughout their entire businesses. But then when you think about OCI and how we've defined and developed and deployed a differentiated cloud, that serves many different types of workloads.
And for enterprises, we think about 3 different major categories. One is enterprise customers that have been utilizing Oracle applications and databases that serve either our applications, third-party applications, custom-built applications or large-scale enterprise data warehouses. And those are customers that take advantage of the price performance and capability that we have in OCI, and I'll give some examples there.
The second category is that customers that are looking to exit their data centers and their workloads. And what we have found is that many other clouds requiring you to redefine and build those applications in a new way to fit onto their cloud, so it becomes a constraint for our customers that are looking to take advantage of what a true cloud can do for their business.
And then the third is really bringing pure infrastructure, compute storage networking capabilities to enterprise customers that are taking advantage of raw infrastructure capabilities. Those are 3 distinct areas of why we're winning, how we're winning and how we're engaging with our enterprise customers all around the world.
And if you think about that first category, an example such as Emerson. They look to build and move their entire Oracle EBS infrastructure, while they're migrating to Fusion, but in doing so, they brought the enterprise data warehouse in all of their Oracle databases to our cloud.
In doing so, they also -- what's unique and what we have found, all of the boundary applications that support that supply chain, right, that financial system, all come into OCI, allowing them to exit their data center, get the performance capability while they start to transform to Fusion at the same time.
And so it's a great example of how we support our customers, bringing together the power of the capability of OCI, the performance for them to be able to improve the performance and the speed for their end users around the applications that they're serving.
Claritev is another example, where they were living under the constraint of another provider telling them they had to replatform before they move to the cloud. And the cloud that you designed, Clay, which is bare metal from the core, right, with off-box virtualization and flexible compute for our customers to be able to pick up the VMs that they have and exit that data center without having to replatform, allowing them to focus on the things that are most important for them around delivering services to their customers.
And when we think about just bringing pure infrastructure to our customers, in the enterprise, we have so many examples, but one that may be different and unique is like Goldman Sachs, right? Taking advantage of bringing high-performance computing capability to do risk analysis in their business. And we weren't their original provider, but we are a critical provider of services to them now where they just -- they had to take an opportunity to look at what it meant in OCI and how we are executing and delivering compute capabilities for them and how they were used to doing it before.
And the results were staggering in terms of the price performance and capability that they were able to get and it doesn't have any Oracle databases that they're running in that environment. So there's multiple examples of native VMs and entire data center capabilities, Oracle applications and our entire data platform capabilities for customers or pure infrastructure around enterprises.
Okay. Well, Mark, I agree with you, great examples. I also kind of explained a bit about our distributed cloud customers, and I used a few examples already. But I think there's probably an example that is more surprising and also a bit different than the traditional telco or MSP-type workload here. Tell us more about some distributed cloud customers.
So I mean, I think there's an obvious point, which is sovereign security, highly regulated industries, banking, health care, utilities that can take advantage of a distributed cloud, bringing it to them in terms of the industries that they're serving. But what's also unique about our distributed cloud, it is our full cloud, which means our customers can take advantage of running our full suite of capabilities.
Meta, as an example. Before we get into thinking about infrastructure at scale in training and inferencing, Meta is a user of Fusion, where we've deployed a dedicated cloud at Meta's facilities where they run Fusion to run their back office of their business. And so we have the capability not only to bring infrastructure to our customers, but the ability to run our full suite of industry applications as well as data layers for our customers. So it's a different example, it's an unique example that our customers can take advantage of wherever they deploy.
Okay. So we've got enterprise, distributed cloud. What about cloud natives?
Cloud natives, I mean cloud natives has been a wonderful spot to truly bring the capability of a next-gen cloud to the industry. And you brought up an example around Cybereason. What we have found is these patterns of success that have continued in a variety of different industry segments for cloud natives. Cybereason is one example, but many security companies are running on OCI, right, whether it's Palo Alto, CrowdStrike, Commvault, Sentinel, Fortinet and on and on and on.
And there's a reason why, right? As you mentioned before, there are certain types of workloads where we perform at a higher level than where the industry is. And whether that's the networking requirements from a security company of how they're protecting others or whether it's the compute intensity that they're leveraging to scale up, scale down to run their businesses efficiently to protect what they're providing to their users.
And it's a great example of thinking around what wait a second, if the security companies are running on OCI is the most performing and most secure cloud out there? Well, that makes a lot of sense. In addition to that, we see a lot of ISVs that come to OCI as well. It's an opportunity where we become a critical part of their cost of goods that they provide.
And the technical differentiation that we have and the partnership that we bring to our ISVs is unmatched, where we are working with them to optimize the workloads for OCI to allow them to focus on delivering the services that they bring to their customers so that we are a critical part of their success, but most importantly is it's a highly engineered engagement with the ISVs and it's unmatched in terms of the performance.
Okay. So I also had -- I had Peter from OpenAI on stage with me yesterday. He was very complementary to your team. And then we just talked about Modal. Give everybody here a little bit more perspective on why we're doing so well in AI infrastructure and why those customers are choosing us?
Yes. AI infrastructure, and when we really started in this space many years ago, I recall a distinct conversation when we were working with NVIDIA actually, around NVIDIA needing to run their workloads in a cloud and engaging directly with Jensen and what he said is, "Wow, I'd never thought I would see this, but Oracle, you are fast, you are highly technical, right, and you are incredibly capable from an engineering perspective."
And he said, never lose that advantage. It wasn't necessarily something that always aligned in terms of what he thought in the past. And for us, it's something that we just continue to operate it with all of the customers that are taking advantage of our AI infrastructure that we're building.
Our teams are incredibly fast. We know what we're really good at. We're highly technical and then we provide a white glove service for our customers that is a 24/7 engagement. And what we constantly hear over and over again is that we are the best to work with, and we're the easiest in terms of operating.
And what happens is this is a pretty tight community. And it spreads very quickly. So as the early-stage companies that we started with, they were telling our story to others, and it's just continued to snowball from there. And obviously, we have the largest of the largest AI companies from running infrastructure in the world today. And so again, highly technical. We don't waste anybody's time. We know what we're really good at and the speed is unmatched.
No. Mark, thank you. I think it's great summary of why people are choosing OCI. Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you. All right.
All right. So this is the long-range plan that we provided on our September 9 earnings call, just a few -- well, I guess it was last month technically. The thing to understand about this is that when I talk about this business, all these different segments are included in this. So this projection about future revenue includes all of these business segments that I'm talking about.
The other thing I want you to understand is that when we talk to you about these types of projections, there are projections that we believe in. We have very real reasons across each of these segments that we're across all of these plans that add up together to provide this kind of projection.
The other thing to understand a little bit, and I'll go into it a bit more in a second, is that for some segments of our business, there really are actually supply constrained, not demand constrained, specifically AI infrastructure. And I'll talk about what that means and why you're seeing the changes from us that we're making in the industry.
So to give you some context here. In 30 days during this quarter, 30 contiguous days, we contracted for $65 billion of additional commitment across infrastructure contracts. Now across those, it was across 7 different contracts from 4 different customers. None of those customers are OpenAI.
I know some people are questioning sometimes, "Hey, is it just OpenAI?" The reality is we think OpenAI is a great customer, but we have many customers. One of these customers is Meta. And as I share these numbers with you, this is not all of our contracts. This is not saying, "Hey, this is -- we didn't add up all of the deals." This is literally 7 deals, 4 customers, all of them other than OpenAI, and it shows the diversity of our customers and the size of their interest in our business.
Okay. So as I mentioned before, most people are assuming that we are demand constrained, but we're not. We're actually supply constrained. And the thing to understand here is that a large part of what I spend my time doing is securing what I consider to be good supply. I'll give you an example of an e-mail I received recently. There was a very nice person who lives in Nebraska, who has a corn field.
They said that -- they think that would be a really good place to put an AI data center. You're probably laughing, but I received. So there's -- you cannot imagine the amount of reach outs that come my way in the way of my team.
It's actually quite a hard job to filter through all of the opportunities to understand which ones bring together the energy that you need, the hard work, the capacity that you need, the land that you need and the capital that you need. Our job is to put together all of those pieces. And only then does that result in supply.
And so what we find is that when we actually have good answers around supply in the reasonable time frame, customers then contract very quickly. So when we talk about the business that we're doing, it's not that I have this infinite supply over here of options, and I spend all of my time going to customers asking, "Hey, would you possibly want this?"
Instead, the customers have come to us saying, we would like a lot of stuff. And our job is to go find actual good supply that we can accelerate and deliver on the time line they need. That is what we do all the time. And once we have that done, suddenly, the customers contract very quickly, and we're contracting with all the different suppliers to bring together these pieces, so we can execute as quickly as possible.
So as part of that, we are updating our long-range plan between now and our fiscal year '30. Again, the reason we're updating this is exactly for what I showed you 2 slides ago. As we find ourselves able to execute our supply constraints, as we actually can go in, we have customers that want that. And that's part of the reason to, and you see the change in these numbers, that it's a little bit easier for us to find supply not this year or next year, but in subsequent years. So as we're able to find that supply, customers contract for it, we see immense demand and then we go about delivering that to customers.
Okay. The other thing I want people to understand is that I talked about these different segments. And obviously, the numbers we just talked about was the all up number for OCI. But we're also extremely focused on our AI database and our AI data platform business. We are very confident in our ability to grow this very rapidly. Now there's a few reasons for that. One of them is, up until recently, as I mentioned before, there was only one cloud selling our AI database and our AI data platform, and now we've transitioned to all of them.
The other reason we're very confident in this projection, you'll hear more about that from Larry later today is the huge investments that we're making into AI and to building out our AI data platform only makes the previous investments we have and our customers have made into our database that much more valuable. So as we go through this next period over a few years, we're rapidly accelerating our cloud database and our AI data platform business.
And this is a -- it's amazing for us to see, right, a business that is such a high margin, that's so valuable to our customers grow so very quickly. So with that, I'm out of time, and I'm going to hand it over, I think to Mike, and he's going to talk to you about applications. Thank you very much.
Please welcome to the stage, Mike Sicilia, Steve Miranda and Mark Hura.
Okay. Hello again. So we're going to talk about applications here. As a reminder, we'll do so under safe harbor. We will talk about a road map. We will talk about our future product direction. So you've heard us say throughout the event here that AI changes everything. And I think what's really important to understand is that, for all the reasons Clay just described, for everything that we're doing in OCI, our ability to deliver AI to our customers embedded inside of our application stack and the ability to have just an unbelievable time to value, we think is unmatched.
We've got -- I think we've gotten to a point, Steve, Steve and I have been discussing this in the week, is that in our applications suite across the board, when you think about our Fusion applications, our front-of-the-house applications like CX, our industry applications, we're at the point where there isn't a difference between the AI version and the non-AI version.
It just doesn't exist. And I'll -- we'll go through some examples of some of those things we're seeing. Particularly in health care, we just went generally available with a new EHR. It's all AI. You can't choose not to consume AI to actually run the application. Now if we didn't make all the investments we've made, if Clay and Mark were out there attracting all these wonderful models to OCI, we would not be able to deliver that as a packaged service.
And that's one of the things that I think when we see in the application market, when people say, "Well, maybe there's not an ROI on this stuff." Actually, I think it's because they're trying to stitch too many things together. They've got too many vendors involved, and they get right back into this old mantra of a very large implementation, a very large time and materials implementations, which frankly, customers are losing patient for.
That's not at all what we're doing. We're actually winning more customers because we're shifting our focus to outcomes. We're winning retail customers in Germany. We're displacing them from SAP because we have an all-in platform of Fusion merchandising plus our retail applications.
Our customers are achieving more. Our customers in health care, and I'll go through this example again, it went live with our AI agents. Within 3 weeks, the ROI in terms of return on time spent with the system was 50%, right? It wasn't small. It was by half, an order of magnitude by half. And the fact that we're delivering that as a service has been really just, we think, game-changing. And along the way, as we rely on all of the OCI tech, we're also doing quite a bit with the AI data platform.
And to make a long story short, good things happen when all the data is in one spot. And that has expanded our ecosystem such that we're not just talking about automating entire industries, but actually automating how those industries communicate with other industries, and we'll go through some of those examples in just a bit.
But to dig in, Steve, if you could maybe take us through all the great things in Fusion that we've got with AI to start us off.
I can do just a couple of the great things in Fusion, Mike. Thanks. So first off, let me just give you an update on our customers. So I think you'll find and hopefully, you've seen this week just by walking around, we have a who's who of the top customers, the top brands globally by industry, by what I'll call heritage, meaning people have moved off of E-Business Suite, PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, Siebel, SAP and a variety of other third-party applications.
I used to show this slide really to show some credibility of Fusion and how Fusion is real. I think now it's unquestioned that Fusion is a market leader in terms of cloud-based applications.
The reason why I showed this slide now is twofold. First off, the growing trend of what's happening is customers are going to Phase 2, 3 and 4 of their projects. They started in ERP, they're adding HCM. They started in ERP and supply chain, they're adding CX. They're starting in ERP supply chain and they're adding industry applications or they have industry applications and they're adding others.
So it's a tremendous leverage to us. But more than that, the referenceability and the case studies we have in the customer. So just this morning, I was talking to a major airline who owns a variety of subsystems who have dozens of ERP systems. And what they want to do is they want to consolidate, but they are essentially a corporate headquarters with federated businesses. And they don't want to -- while they want to bring the system together, they still want to have different lines of business.
I was able to quickly give them FedEx did that, except FedEx centralized it all, very similar industry to the airline into a shared service. But they said, "Well, we don't want to shared service." No problem. That's exactly what DWP and the U.K. government did, brought a bunch of government entities together, but had federated ownership. And as it turns out, this airline had already met with DWP at this conference, shared their use case and are going to now connect to them offline and follow that same program. So this is not just a customer base that's buying more products. This is a customer base that's talking to each other and helping us expand and helping others expand and succeed. It's just a tremendous, tremendous success story for all these customers, including AI and including Oracle AI.
Now safe harbor aside, and Mike said, we're going to talk about futures. Everything I'm going to talk about here in Fusion is not futures, is today. So as one example of AI being today, we start first, as always, at Oracle, our own use case. And we have, as you guys all know, a world-class finance organization, and we talk a lot about our efficiency of close and our speed of close and reporting, but we've just made that much better.
Our internal finance group is rolling out our ledger agent. They're rolling out our payment agent. They're using AI to take an already extremely efficient group and fast group and make it more efficient. We've implemented agents across HR. Even in functions, we never really had like HR benefits, goals and functions using AI to improve there.
And then for our support business, handling the support tickets, all of our external customers now have AI agents, both on the front end to deflect SRs and questions and for our assistance on the back end so that our support agents can better find the answers and service our customers.
We've just rolled out those agents already, we're seeing faster time to resolution. less people intervention, meaning less cost to us and more accuracy of the resolution, and it's resulting in greater customer satisfaction on the SR surveys. So we're Safra's manta, we're paying less, and we're doing a better job of it through the AI agents. And those are just 3 examples at Oracle.
Now what we announced -- what I talked about at this conference last year was that we would have 100 AI agents in Fusion. We actually have 600 AI agents, 400-plus in Fusion, 200-plus in the industry verticals. But that is a massive understatement in the AI because what we've built is an AI ecosystem across Fusion.
One are the agents that we built internal to Fusion. Second, however, is we have an agent studio that allows our customers to modify what we give them in agents, to build their own agents, to integrate with third parties. And then at this conference, we just announced an agent marketplace. The agent marketplace allowing you to extend and expand them, and we have over 2 dozen partners part of the marketplace, each who've contributed already about half a dozen agents together. So the 600 are agents that we've built that does not count agents that our customers are building through the agent studio, that does not count what our partners have built.
Steven, I think what's really interesting about that, as we discussed, is that you have kind of this age-old question in procurement cycles of build by partner. I think your answer is, well, how about all 3, right? You can build your own agents, you can buy partner agents or you can buy our agents, but you're doing it in the safety and security of a single platform, right? It's not -- it's still not this idea of stitching a bunch of things together and bringing a bunch of bespoke...
Well, I think that, that last but is a significant difference because in theory, could you use a third-party agentic framework and build agents on top of Fusion? Absolutely. However, when you build Fusion agents on top of the agent platform or use ours, the context is there. So it knows Mike Sicilia, it knows your role within Oracle. It knows what you can see and what you can't see...
I had no access. I tried to...
Now you have all access. But let me pick a different example. When you're Steve Miranda, you have somewhat more limited access. So it knows -- but the benefits agent example. So if I log into Oracle, we have the benefit agent. I want to ask it a question. I'm traveling in Europe. I want a prescription. Is it covered or not? I have someone on my team has a leave of absence. They want to extend it. Do they need to extend COBRA? There's all sorts of benefits questions.
Well, the agents native to Fusion, not only can our customers configure them in all the ways you see here, but it's embedded contextual and secure. So it knows the person's role. It knows their HR status, so it knows their tenure. It knows what health care plan they've selected. It knows what country they're in. So it knows exactly the benefits policy on which to answer the questions. If you had a bespoke or build your own, you could certainly do that. But if you did it totally outside of the Oracle ecosystem, you have to code in the security, you have to code in the context and you have to keep that updated always for every agent you do. It's a much different time to value to your point, and that's where we're seeing the difference in our customers adopting this quickly and moving forward.
And by the way, we now have over 32,000 people, and actually, I think this is -- I know it's already dated. I think it's almost 40,000 at this point, certified on our agent studio. This is Oracle, Internal Oracle Consulting. These are our partners.
To show you a list of the partners, I talked about those 2 dozen agents studio. These are partners, large and small, that have already been certified and already delivered, again, at least half a dozen agents each that have been validated by our development team to the agent marketplace.
Every one of these agents is available to every one of our customers at no additional cost. So these are agents that are contributed to make the implementations easier, make industry functionality easier, make things better across the board. And I said it was a massive understatement. So not only are the 600 that we built doesn't count what our customers built, doesn't count the marketplace.
We had a hackathon on Monday at this event. Mike and I were just talking about it. Mike got a chance to poke his head into it. We had a little bit over 165 different partners and customers and it's all sitting around the table in rooms like this. So last year, for perspective, I promised 100 agents in Fusion. On Monday, not from Oracle, partners and customers in a hackathon, they built 109 agents, which will go into the marketplace.
So when you talk about the speed and progress across the applications and the speed and progress of consuming AI and consuming all the great things that Clay talked about, that's just a perfect example. Okay. So let's take a look about industries.
Okay. Thanks, Steve. All right. So today already, in our industry applications or whether they're edge applications or they're more sophisticated applications like core banking, we have 2,400 customers that are already leveraging Oracle AI, embedded Oracle AI inside these applications today.
They are live across a large variety of industries. And again, as Steve mentioned, we have over 200 AI agents -- features and agents just in our industry portfolio live today. We'll eclipse that, and I'll go through the numbers here in just a bit very, very quickly in the coming months in terms of total agents to market. And our view, and we've heard a lot of feedback that aren't applications in the future, really just a collection of agents. And what do you think about your stance there? And our view is, well, you're exactly right. And we're actually doing that thing exactly.
Our applications stack, whether they're industry applications, Fusion applications, are quickly becoming a collection of AI agents and our ability and our time to market is second to none. It's not just interesting that we have 2,400 customers live or 200 new AI agents.
But if you go back 18 months, both of those numbers were 0. We had 0 AI agents live in our industry applications, and we had 0 industry customers live on any industry AI. 18 months later, we're at 2,400. In very sophisticated, highly regulated industries like health care, so far, the longest go-live we've had with an AI agent has been 3 weeks. That's been the longest. The shortest has been in a matter of days.
The amount of professional services dollars spent by the grand total of every customer. There are over 250 customers just in health care alone live on the AI agents is 0, $0, self-directed, self-implemented. The amount of dollars spent on training collectively by all of those customers is 0. 0 training, works out of the box. And keep in mind, these things are working in highly sophisticated clinical applications. These are running inpatient rooms with no training.
Yes. I think just one point, your point about is SaaS going to change or what it is, especially in industry applications, but even take the finance example, Maria Smith's team at Oracle, their role isn't to use our user interface and type invoices into the system. Their role is to report our earnings to pay our suppliers, to invoice our customers to collect.
Our IP was not our UI to do that. We take great pride in our IP. Our IP is how efficiently we organize that and give data to our customers. What we've done with these agents, the 600-plus is we've allowed customers to do that more efficiently. That's what we've always done, and now we have that in a much, much more accelerated.
Yes. And of course, Steve, it's all much easier when you're a custodian of all the data, you need to build these agents, right? And the fact that all of this runs on the Oracle AI data platform makes this engineering cycle, this innovation cycle just so much faster and the ability to roll this out as a quarterly update, it's -- we really -- we're quite excited by our customers' ability to update this. So as you know, we operate in many different industries, and I'll go through a couple of examples here of agents that I think are really going to be very popular. The first is the embedded AI agent for retail.
So this is an intelligent inventory agent. It's designed specifically to help customers bring together data from CRM, from merchandising, from Fusion inventory, from Oracle Analytics Cloud, from Oracle Xstore, which is the point-of-sale system that we have, from our procurement and order management systems and Fusion.
The agent is not just a point of intelligence. It's not just helping retailers decide which product should I put on the shelf and what is the impact of my forecast demand, my planning buys and moving goods around, selling across channels, my omnichannel strategy, all that, of course, is an output of the agent.
The intelligence is built into the agent to figure that out. But it's also a very interesting point of integration. And if you think about how much money organizations spend today on integrating applications across the stacks, and agents do it mostly for free. I mean the ability to traverse data from multiple sources across multiple systems. And by the way, the CX, the merchandising, the inventory, the analytics, the Xstore, procurement, order management, it doesn't -- they don't necessarily have to be all Oracle systems. That's not how the agents are designed. The agents are designed to pull from multiple systems and put together points of intelligence to give, in this case, the retailer very high visibility so they can flag potential inventory issues and translate complex data into very clear, transparent recommendations. I'm sure those of you who have covered or understand retail, inventory management is one of the costliest and most difficult things and if they can avoid liquidation of inventory, it's real money back. So a lot going on in retail.
I did mention a bit about health care. It's important to know that we've got dozens of AI agents live across our health ecosystem today, many more planned. We're looking at chart review care navigation, clinical decision support, patient risk predictions, preventative care and many more. In fact, our next-generation AI EHR is now generally available. It is generally available and it is also approved by the regulators. This is also another interesting AI story.
We've got customers running this in beta. Seema is going to talk a little bit more about this as we go forward and why we're so excited about this. And the feedback has been absolutely tremendous. You remember that these customers are coming from a -- literally a Windows 95 Citrix experience to agentic AI. That's the leap of technology that we see in health care.
And the feedback, it's not just a great business, and it's not just going to be a great growth engine for applications, but it's actually an emotional piece as well. I mean, the feedback that we get from providers and patients is, "This changes my life. It changes the way I practice medicine because you've actually given me a tool that helps me not burdens me."
And we've got a lot of competition in that market. But if you break it down and you think about AI as powering EHR, the one question I ask our competitors is well, see how many fuel cell power plants are you building on site right now? Because you're not doing that, probably not going to have as good of a chance to be closely provisioned to a large language model and apply reasoning models and all the things you actually need to work -- to make this work at scale to automate an entire hospital.
It takes usually -- the regulatory cycle for approval for electronic health record software today is about 2 to 3 years. So it takes about 2 to 3 years to get through a regulatory cycle, and they get the self-fulfilling prophecy. Because the cycle is so long for approval, people end up running very old technology for a very long period of time because the pain of switching is very high.
We were able to get through the full regulatory cycle in the United States for this in 6 months. The reason we got through the regulatory so quickly is because we actually used AI to generate a lot of the documentation. Now we cross-checked it. We have a baseline. We make sure it's right. We make sure it's accurate. But it's actually saving us a tremendous amount of time and putting us in a position to be able to bring these products to market, particularly in heavily regulated industries like health care and banking and utilities, where there's a very large burden of documentation to actually bring products to market because in health care, you've got federal government regulations, but you also have state-specific regulations. California is different than Texas, for example, in terms of some of the things you need to do for Medicaid compliance.
We're actually able to automate all of that process across our industry applications and bring these products to market. And in such, we think that regulators are actually happier with that as well. They're actually happier to receive more timely information. They're actually happier to reduce the burden on them in terms of having to review an incredibly complex set of documentation.
I'll switch gears now to banking, which is a really, really interesting business. So Steve, I mean, I know the Fusion applications are a very popular choice among big banks. The core ERP systems, HCM systems, and the banks have largely had an appetite to move that to the cloud over the years.
Now when we talk about core banking systems, for lack of a better way to put it, the stuff that moves money around inside the bank. There's still a lot of mainframe, still a lot of mini. There's still a lot of very big iron running these applications. And we are definitely -- if you look at core banking applications move to the cloud, let alone move to AI, okay? Just think about just the first step. You're in single-digit percentages in the terms of that, that has been moved to the cloud. But as we said this week, AI changes everything.
So the future of what we're building and helping banks move away from large on-premises bespoke applications is with that agentic approach. And we see this as a tremendous opportunity to unlock our core banking installed base and actually to win new customers in the shift to the cloud.
Again, very, very difficult in a highly regulated, very sophisticated application space like core banking, unless you're doing all of it. It's going to be very difficult for competitors to come in, we think, with piecemeal applications and stitch stuff together to make a core banking AI solution.
So just in the next year at most, just in the next year, just in the core banking space, we'll have 125 agents live. And I'm going to go through some of those here in just a minute, just in the next year. Steve last year made a projection about 100. We ended up with 400. I think we have a good chance of being in a very similar situation here where we're even surprised as to how fast we can go. So these are across a wide variety of banking and insurance spaces. They're going to include things for human interactions. We'll go through some of those a bit. Domain agents and actually those that are really focused on improving accuracy and processing of time.
Our agents and features are designed to automate the entire bank or the insurance as a KB. We're talking about corporate banking, retail banking, revenue management, billing, insurance policy administration and just got so many terrific things coming out.
So I'm going to start with one of them, which is a huge pain point. Again, I'm not going to go all through all 125. I'm just going to pick 2 in the interest of time here. But financial crimes and compliance. So this is a huge pain point for the banks as we talk to them. So many of you may know and your colleagues, for those of you that are with the big banks, spend an incredible amount of time. It's very costly. It's very time consuming to investigate financial crimes. Unfortunately, financial crimes are not going away. And selling it last year, I said the firm spent $155 billion in 2024 just on the investigation process.
Tier 1 banks have thousands of people, staffing investigative teams and are spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Leveraging AI, we can improve accuracy and drastically reduce the investigation time. So if you took a look at these 3 representative banks here, names would tell, but these banks in the chart look how much they've disclosed that they're actually spending on this. We believe that our agentic approach, and we've been beta testing this with the banks can save up to 60% of the work. Just in Phase 1 of the agent, we should be able to knock out 60% of the work. So I'm going to take a look at some of it here.
So this is the output of a case that's already fully being investigated by our financial crimes AI agent. And with the agent -- without the agent, the investigator would have spent hours, days, weeks opening this case, digging through the details, understanding the parties, their professions and whether they had prior activity with the bank.
With the AI investigator, the initial groundwork, it's already done. Before the investigator even opens the case, it's done. And we can immediately see -- hopefully, you can see on the slide that this individual is, in this case, a retired nurse on a fixed income and that she's had prior cases where suspicious wires were sent to unknown parties and they were blocked.
Now the AI investigator is going to give the investigator a total overview of the case. It's showing patterns. It's showing activities and typologies. And things like funnel behavior require repeated wire deposits, withdrawals of high-risk jurisdictions. And then I have the ability to see all of that over time. So the investigator runs through this, decides and whether or not they agree with AI with the findings.
And if they want to dig deeper, they're certainly able to dig deeper manually. But the interface is going to show them all the relevant risk factors, and it provides a very clear narrative of what was observed versus what wasn't observed. And if the investigator agrees with the AI agent, they can finalize decision. If not, they can intervene. System is going to guide them through all the various views so they can quickly see what happened and why.
Then the UI is built for the investigator to feel confident about decisions. This is just exactly the same way our AI works in health care, not replacing the doctor, not taking away from the provider, but actually showing the provider, in this case, showing the investigator exactly how the decisions were built, exactly where they came from and the investigator is always in the loop. So the person still signs off on this, but if you could do your job 60% faster as a result of this, I think we'd all be happy.
So this is a really powerful shift. We think it's a perfect application of AI today in large banks. This is all generally available and really much easier for our customers to absorb because we're supplying as a service here, the whole stack. It's OCI. It's the database. It's the core banking applications. It's the analytics. It's a generative AI data platform, large language model integration, which wrote all the narratives here. In this case, again, if you're the custodian of all the data, it's so much easier to bring these type of agents to bank very, very quickly.
All right. So I'll show you another one of the -- #2 of the 125 is our retail banking agents. So we're going to use AI here to improve both customer and bank experience and streamline a very critical business process.
So ordinarily, the process of providing a personalized service to an individual customer inside a bank could be quite complex. I mean banks like all businesses want to provide as much personalized service as they possibly can. But with AI, we think we can actually help the banks get to that more personalized consumer experience when they want to position exact services like loans or even before the customers may know they need them.
So we've got a video here that we're going to play to show this agent.
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Okay. 123 more of those agents -- such agents are planned for the next year here. So we'll have a lot more to say about banking. Again, it's an industry where I think AI is just going to be -- agentic applications are going to be a tremendous wedge to move a very large, very dated infrastructure base, both applications and infrastructure as well to our cloud and AI solutions.
So you see some of the stats across other industries. Again, I won't go through all the industries. I spoke about the clinical AI piece for hospitals. In hospitality, we released an upsell AI agent, which helps hoteliers understand where the upsell wheel maybe, what's the sweet spot for engaging with customers, how many weeks prior to check-in, what are the services these people like and how do we understand how to position.
Just in year 1 of rolling it out, which was actually on just a small bit of our installed base for hotels, hoteliers generated $350 million in upsell. That's what they reported back to us in the upsell wheel from this AI agent.
I spoke about the financial crimes and AI investigator. We just rolled out a brand-new agent for energy optimization in our Opower stack and very early days, but we got an immediate feedback from one of our very large energy customers that it saved them $2 million instantly and reduced calls to their call center. So this story goes on and on and on across the board.
What's really interesting about the banks, too, if I go back to that before I ask Mark for his comments, is the whole stack advantage, I think, is really interesting in banks. We're having conversations not just about how do you take all these very old custom bespoke applications and how do you take everything that's bolted on to them and how do we use AIs and unlock mechanisms to move them.
But what are you going to do with all of your infrastructure? And because of our dedicated region in OCI, we're actually having an entire stack conversation with these customers. And we think it's different than our competitors. Now you've heard us say many times before that we have the widest portfolio of applications of technology services, of cloud services, GPU, CPU on the market. And that's been something that we've all been quite proud of and that we've been able to be good in all those industries. One of the things that sometimes is a little suboptimal in that market is that you have a lot of salespeople. You have a lot of people who are calling on customers in many different pieces.
And then in the on-premises days and even in early cloud days, that worked because a lot of the buying was by pillar. But now we're seeing a shift in customer buying patterns. And we're seeing customers as we position the whole stack, really wanting to talk about outcomes and less about all the parts that make up the outcome. In other words, we're selling and positioning to the customer and outcome. We're selling a 70% reduction in financial crimes. We're selling a 49% reduction in paperwork for health care.
And in order to do that, we've made a lot of changes about our -- with our go-to-market strategy. And I think that those changes are just as important as everything we've done in the product stack so that we can accurately communicate that to customers and engage with customers at the senior level.
So Mark, I'm going to ask you to kind of walk us through what we've done to address this whole stack advantage.
Perfect. Thanks, Mike. I think AI changes everything. It changes how we develop products. It changes how we deliver products. It changes how our customers consume our AI agents embedded in our applications and our AI database and the capability that exists. It also changes how we go to market.
It's given us an unique opportunity to really transform how we engage our customers to bring the power of our entire portfolio to the industries and the customers that we serve all around the world. There's 3 key things that I want to make sure that we all can walk away with is that we are making Oracle easier to understand, easier to do business with.
We have simplified and unified our teams of how we go to market and how we bring the capabilities of the industry suites of applications that have embedded agents and the ability to build and extend on our agent platforms, the ability to deploy our database anywhere and allow our customers to take advantage of the AI database that has AI native capabilities in our data platform or take advantage of that infrastructure.
And we've done that in a way that allows our customers to work with us in a more seamless fashion. In addition to that, as Mike was describing, the capabilities that come across the entire platform, when we work with our customers around bringing our infrastructure, our data and our applications together, that one Oracle advantage, when we do that at scale, the opportunity is incredible.
For our customers to be able to consume and bring outcomes that deliver real value, where they're not focused on integrating solutions, they're not focused on deploying differentiated capabilities, they're not worrying about where their data is moving and how is it secured or not.
When we bring that entire value, we do truly bring an advantage to our customers to focus on the things that matter most to them, which is the services that they are providing to their customers or their employees. We also -- it also gives us a unique advantage to help our customers accelerate on their AI transformations with the capabilities that we have throughout the portfolio.
So let me start with the simpler unified approach to the go-to-market. At the top level, it's bringing the Oracle brand to our customers. It's Oracle to our customer, it's Oracle to governments, and in some cases, it's Oracle to countries around how we bring the full capability. And that may be in certain instances, bringing our cloud to the customer with the full stack capabilities that exist.
If we really think about our commercial teams, and AI didn't allow us to say we're going to reduce the commercial teams, it allowed us to deploy our resources so that we actually have more sellers in front of our customers that are bringing meaningful solutions for them.
In our applications teams, we bring together our industry suites and our fusion suites together for our customers. If we're going into a retailer, we bring the entire suite of merchandising, right, capabilities around inventory management, the back office around financial consolidation, close, human capital.
But also, we have the ability to bring other solutions, a retailer that may be online but also stores that are deployed, not only in the United States, but all over the world. Our engineering and construction platform because they need to build out those capabilities and need project management resources. We bring some capabilities around financing solutions, loan and lease applications that these customers need.
Also, they may have a call center. Well, guess what, our communications business has call center capabilities to allow that customer to take advantage of the AI inherent capabilities. So when we bring one resource to our customer around our full application suite, they can take advantage of the integrated capabilities that exist across that entire platform, which is an unique differentiation that there is no other competitor in the industry that has that capability.
In addition to that, when we think about our AI data platform, and you'll hear from Larry later around the innovation around native AI capabilities in the Oracle AI database, and we announced and launched the AI data platform to allow our customers to take all that enterprise data. Our applications are data generators. They bring immense value around incremental data that is generated around a customer buying something, around an employee and how they work. Well, that data needs to go somewhere.
And in that data platform, the ability to bring the latest large language models to inference off of that data, where that customer wants that data to be securely in that environment allows us to help customers transform. Well, in the past, when customers bought on-premise, we had a person that was selling to them on-premise, we had a person that was providing them and selling them hardware, we had a person that was trying to sell cloud databases and capabilities.
Well, no longer it's one person that brings the entirety of our data platform to our customer. But giving them choice where they want to run, database anywhere, on-premises, in OCI, in our multi-cloud partner capabilities, but also cloud at their facility as well.
And in our infrastructure business, it's not just good enough to bring those Oracle workloads to OCI. We've developed a differentiated cloud. We've gone from a disruptor in the industry, right, from an underdog to a disruptor and bringing compute storage network capabilities at a differentiated level to our customers allows us to be the destination cloud for many customers that have critical capabilities around high networking, high compute-intensive workloads.
But also we become the destination cloud for training and inferencing, where we now have the ability to bring those models to the customers wherever they choose to, to securely and inference off of their private data, but again, the opportunity to bring the entire stack to our customers is differentiated that no one else has the capabilities of this entire stack.
We've never truly taken advantage of bringing it all together, and we are now. And this is an opportunity for us to continue to execute that scale across the globe of how we engage with every customer across every industry that we serve. But when we bring the one Oracle to our customers, we have incredible scale and advantage. Not only do our customers benefit from the integrated solutions and the capabilities, but Oracle also benefits.
Let me give you some examples. If our customer base, if you can see here, 55% of the customers own a single product pillar. Let me explain that. And let's just call that 1x of spend. That may mean they own our database capabilities or they may have a Fusion application. They may have ERP or they may have HCM.
They may be an infrastructure user and not amongst the other products. But that doesn't mean they're using all the products in that pillar. They spend 1x with Oracle. Well, as customers move down the path and have 2 pillars of those 3, where they may actually be using our database on OCI or they may be using database with a cloud at customer.
There may be a Fusion user that's using OCI for integration capabilities to other applications. When they use 2 of those pillars, they spend 8x more than the 55% of that customer base. As you move down the path and go to 3, where they're utilizing HCM and our data platform with a Cloudera customer as an example, they spend 25x more the average base.
And that doesn't mean they're using everything out of the suite. It doesn't mean they're using the retail solution with merchandising, and warehouse management and fusion across HCM and ERP and CX and supply chain. It just may mean they're using one of those products. But truly, as you go up the scale where customers are truly taking advantage of the entire suite, where utility is taking advantage of our operational solutions and capabilities that cut across their customer care and meter data management, they're operating the grid, they're taking advantage of our energy efficiency solutions, managing their financial capabilities, their customer experience, their human capital running it on OCI and taking advantage of our data platform across their business. 2% of our customers in that category, 150x on average. That's on average.
That means customers are spending 300, 400, 500 times as well when they truly take advantage of the entire suite. That is why we have changed our go-to-market to simplify how we're engaging with our customers and executing. And it's not only how we're engaging, but we're also transforming how we're allowing them to consume our products.
We started this with OCI, and we have an universal credit because customers don't know exactly what they're going to use out of the products. They may flex in their compute. They may need more network. They may have some different types of storage. Well, we just announced our multi-cloud credit capability for our customers to deploy their database anywhere, it's one price, no matter where they choose to deploy.
And we're going to continue to modernize and do the same with our applications for our customers and make it easier to consume and move up the stack for them to get more value out of our solutions. And there's just some examples...
Sorry, I think, Mark, just to clarify, too, the customers are actually spending less. They're spending more with Oracle. Because what Mike talked about, the single stack advantage and all the engineering and putting all the pieces together, instead of customers having to stitch it together and spending the money between that, they get 2 components, 3 components and more that Mark shared.
And it's not -- and in any one of these categories on a stand-alone product basis, Oracle is still, right, rated as a top product and capability in that area. So bringing it together does not sacrifice the customers' capabilities, but it truly takes advantage of all of the integration that exists across the platform, where customers can blend together different solutions and take advantage of capabilities across industries and whether that's in financial services, along with our Fusion platform and our data platform.
It allows them to spend their time, energy and effort focusing on the things that matter most of them around their transformation, around their AI deployments and not worrying about integrations, not worrying about patching, not worrying about continuing to make sure things are going to work together. What cloud is it in? Where is it in? How does that need to work?
We're allowing them to take advantage of the capabilities and the work that we are doing. And here's just a smattering of examples that you see here, which it doesn't cover every industry that we're in, but you could see, it covers a variety of industries, whether it's in the energy industry and utilities, transportation, logistics, health care, financial services, hospitality, communications, high tech. It cuts across every one of these industries.
And whether customers choose to start with the entire platform like Exelon, and Mike, you had the CEO of Exelon with you on stage on Monday; or it's AtlantiCare that's focused on deploying our latest AI-enabled health applications to have a data strategy running on OCI, where they're focused on providing outcomes to patients and not trying to worry about securing all of their applications and managing that infrastructure.
Or whether it's maybe federal, that's deploying the SaaS core banking solutions as well as our Fusion suite, but their CEO talked about the need to have a foundation of data across their entire business running at on OCI or Avis. Avis has deployed Fusion across their platform. They recently brought their entire data stack from another proprietary environment into the Oracle AI database, running on OCI, 1 trillion rows of data.
Now they're deploying AI agents embedded infusion and extending those with the agent platform. And in a very short period of time, realize the importance of how they can quickly tap in to that trillion rows of data that they have in the Oracle AI database to deliver outcomes for their operations, their employees and their customers to transform their experience, all running on OCI. And that is the Oracle Advantage.
When our customers take advantage of every layer of the stack and whether that's an OCI, where we've gone from an underdog to a disruptor, where we train and inference on the large language models in the world, having the most secure, scalable and deployable performance platform in the industry to our AI data platform where we have the AI database with AI capabilities native to allow our customers to transform all of their data to be enterprise ready for AI capabilities and our most complete suite of industry applications.
It is a simpler, easier approach to the marketplace. It is truly differentiated that no one else has to allow us to accelerate our growth, but more importantly, is to help our customers transform on their AI journeys. It truly is an unprecedented time, and AI changes everything of how we go to market as well.
Mark, a quick question. Early days in rolling this out, what's the feedback been from our customers? Steve, I know you mentioned you heard some of it as well in terms of our new approach to customer engagement.
The feedback has been amazing. The conversation quickly transforms to I didn't know that you had all of those capabilities because it wasn't necessarily brought to me in the past because there was so many different people now I can see where you've developed, how you develop, more importantly, how you can help me drive outcomes.
It's amazing to see our customers, even many of the customers that were here speaking this week, learn so much more about what we have to offer and by doing it in a much simpler approach. And it's -- we're seeing our pipeline grow. We're seeing customers choose more of the full suite of our capabilities, and they're selecting to run it on our infrastructure as well.
Perfect. Mark, Steve, thank you very much.
And the feedback of simplicity, too. So yes, that's great.
Great. Thanks very much, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay. So we're going to take a deeper dive into health and then also at the end, talk about what health has to do with our banking business, which I think is quite interesting.
So to talk more about health care, I'm pleased to welcome Executive Vice President and General Manager of Oracle Health globally, Seema Verma.
Seema, welcome. Thank you.
So Seema, health care continues to be front page news everywhere in the world, usually not for great reasons. You have an interesting perspective as the former administrator of the largest payer in the world, which is the United States government for health care.
And for several years now, you've been engaging with both our commercial customers and our government customers around the world. What's going on? What's top of mind for everybody in terms of the challenges and problems with costs and all the other things we're reading about?
Yes. So I've been in health care for a long time, but I think that this particular period, I think, is becoming more challenging, and let me just start with some high-level issues that I don't think we contemplated not in this country or anywhere in the world. First that starts with just the aging population and people are living longer, which is a good thing. But we really haven't prepared the system. We don't have the workforce. So that's becoming very challenging.
And I think most of us would say, hey, it's hard to get a doctor's appointment, so just getting into the system. And then the other part of it is we're seeing more disease. We look at in terms of mental health, we're seeing cancer happening in younger ages. So the system in and of itself is very stressed. At the same time, we're seeing costs just continue to rise.
And for governments, this governments around the world, this is just becoming unsustainable. So if we look at health care costs for states and the state budget. Medicaid is actually their largest budget item. For the federal government, it's 1/3 of the federal budget, and these are entitlement programs. So costs are continuing to go up. And I think there's a fatigue from government around how do we solve these problems.
And if you look at the history, and just in the United States, the history of health care legislation and how government has tried to solve these problems as they've thrown money at the problem, right? So they've expanded programs. They've added more services. We think about the Part D program, the prescription drug program, adding more people to our existing entitlement programs.
I think we're getting to a point kind of a tipping point of fatigue with how the system operates. And I think for the very first time, which you saw with the legislation that passed with a Big Beautiful Bill, we said, this is kind of a pushback, right?
So for -- in a long time, we've been adding -- and this is the first time the sort of a push back where I think the government is saying there's fatigue. If we look at -- in the U.K., the same thing with the NHS, right, so we can't continue to sustain these programs. And so we think about what's going on and what is the problem here?
Like what is the underlying problem? And there's lots of reasons of what's driving cost. But one of the things that I think we could all agree on is that there's a lot of inefficiency in the system. And that inefficiency kind of gets tied back to we have a lot of people. This is a very people-oriented business, doing a lot of work. And a lot of that work is very manual, it's very redundant.
So there's -- and if we go back to sort of say, why is it manual, why is it redundant? I would venture to say a lot of this is a data problem. And health care is inefficient because the data that we have is not -- sometimes it's too much, sometimes it's too little, and we don't have data at the right place and the right time.
So I'll give you a couple of examples, like prior authorizations, right? So in this country, you want to get a service, you need to have this -- the insurance company agree that this is an appropriate service and the back and forth that goes on, it's just a lot of time and a lot of energy.
And so we're spending about 25% to 30% of our health care dollars just on administrative costs. So it's just be getting to a point where it's unsustainable. This is passed, I think we're hearing that premiums are at an all-time high in the United States, one of the largest increases. So for all of the money that government has put into it, we're still seeing poor health outcomes. We're seeing more disease and the system is just becoming more and more unsustainable.
Well, lots of problems.
Yes, yes.
Long list of problems. But as I say, you can't fix the problem unless you understand the problem. So maybe you can give us a little bit of inspiration and dive into how you think AI both in health and life sciences, I mean, I think because both have some similar challenges and why you're so excited in the work that you've been leading for our team around AI? Why you think it helps solve these problems?
Yes. So that is kind of a grim view of what's going on in health care. But I'll tell you what I couldn't be more excited from where we are in health care, and that is the opportunity to use AI to help solve some of these challenges. I think we're at a point now where government can't do it, and they really do need the private sector. So we think about great moments in history, right?
So we think about what shapes history? A lot of it is government, a lot of it is war, but it's also technology, and technology has an opportunity to really reshape the future here for health. And I can't think of a better industry that can really benefit from AI because AI can help.
We talk about a lot of the people problem, the data problem and AI can really come in and help with a lot of those tasks, right, with the agentic AI, but even just the understanding of the data and having that real-time data and not just a ton of data, but understanding what it means, right? So one of the issues, if we think about it in terms of health care costs are drug costs, right?
So expensive because it takes -- it's very difficult to conduct a clinical trial, and we have, what, 1% to 2% of the population even participates in clinical trials, getting people, finding people, matching them to a trial is an enormous task, it costs the system a lot of money. And that's why drugs cost so much money.
There's a ton of money in development. But what if we could use AI to match patients, right? So the doctor knows -- you look at the patient, the doctor knows right away this patient qualifies for a clinical trial, and we can easily enroll the person in a clinical trial. Same thing with prior authorization, the doctor decides they want to prescribe a certain test or a medication, that whole process can be completely automated.
So I think there's this incredible opportunity to automate a lot of the manual work and also to make sense of the data that we have and bring intelligence to the bedside.
Yes. No, I certainly share your enthusiasm. I mean I've had the great honor of being with you in many of these discussions with governments throughout the world as well as large health care -- well, large health care organizations and frankly, small health care organizations, too, in the United States. And I think you're right. I think there's -- at first, there was some skepticism around AI, as there always is in clinical settings.
But now just with the proof points that we've delivered and the things that we've delivered even in early days, the line of people lined up to consume the AI is longer than I think that we could align this form more quickly than we could have ever imagined. And maybe you could talk specifically about some of the products that we're bringing to market and again, why we think they're so to have such a dramatic impact on this huge inefficiency and cost problem in health care.
Right. I think you're exactly right though, right? People -- I think in the health care system, they're getting to a point where they understand that the problems that they have are not going to be solved by government anymore, right? There's not going to be this big bolus of cash that solves the problem and that they need to become more efficient. And there's a lot of enthusiasm around AI and what AI can do.
I think there's also recognition that the technology that they've had in the health care system isn't going to cut it, right? You can't take a 1990s database and think that you can bolt-on AI and that it's going to work well. So the industry has been so excited about all of the applications that we're bringing to the market. In our recent health care conference, we had the CEO of the Mayo Clinic, the CEO of the Cleveland Clinic and just a lot of enthusiasm about what we're building.
By the way, they're our competitors, two biggest. Some of our competitors the biggest...
That's exactly right. I think that our competitors' customers are starting to understand the power, the value of AI and that they need a platform that can allow them to use AI to build their own agents, to bring in other agents. And the current products that are out there in the market are not quite cutting it, and they're not able to do it.
I think the other thing that I really appreciate, and we can talk about the products in a second. But I think that our approach and Oracle's approach to AI and how we are using AI in the last -- just in the last few months here has become very apparent that what we're bringing to the market is way superior. So you can probably tell them more about how we're building the AI and how that's better.
Yes. Well, we're going to show a demo here maybe in just a minute.But as I said earlier, you've got to have the data in one spot to actually have to have any kind of an AI strategy, let alone in the clinical setting. And what you said here was really important. I think it's important to underscore that there actually isn't more money to put into the health care system.
This is true globally. I mean governments and payers are running out of money to put into the health care system. At the same time, we need to deliver higher-quality services to our customers and the providers need to deliver higher quality, better outcome services, better outcome-oriented services to their patients. But they got to take a bunch of money out of the system at the same time. It's an incredible challenge. There really is no practical solution to that except for AI.
I mean we're hundreds of thousands of people short in terms of clinical providers just in the United States. We're not going to manufacture with the birth rate where it is. I don't think we're going to manufacture enough people very, very quickly here to solve that problem. So we've been thinking long and hard about how do we solve this problem? How do we deliver better outcomes? And how do we actually take cost out? How do we help our health care customers spend less at the same time? And that's an important part of what we do.
So we started -- I'm going to show a couple of examples, both the patient example as well as the provider example. So this is a patient example. So here I am as a patient, and I just got my cholesterol report. And what's the first thing you do when you get a lab in isolation, you get your doctor, you get a test, it comes back. First thing you do is paste it into some search engine or pace it into GPT or some other large language model and say, what does this actually mean?
And that's the first mistake, right? Because the first mistake is you're only pacing that particular lab and that particular metric in isolation and none of your longitudinal record. So the lab result, while it may not be normal, might still be okay clinically when you consider everything else you have going on and you deliver -- you consider your factors over time. So what we're doing is we're actually putting patients at the -- and this is another problem. This has gotten even worse because -- and a lot of states have these prompt notification laws where you actually get your test results sometimes before your doctor gets, which can be a little scary, right?
Because if you're not a doctor, you know how to read this, it's a little scary. And then we got the situation where people are going outpacing this stuff. And what happens is that the doctor's call centers are completely overwhelmed as a result, they're completely overwhelmed. So when we're actually doing this, and this is based on our integration, we announced this at our health conference recent in Orlando.
This is based upon coming back to what Clay said, it all starts with OCI. We didn't have OCI and we didn't have the large language models actually running in very close proximity to our health applications, we wouldn't be able to do this. But when you ask a question and you receive a diagnosis, we're actually considering your entire longitudinal health record. We're considering all everything about you, and we're giving the providers guidelines as to what they're comfortable and not comfortable communicating to customers, and it's all in plain English. None of it is in medical jargon.
So you can see that with these embedded engagement tools, the patient portal really becomes a basic hub for health care services. It's a trusted partner in care because it's automated using large language models. It's automated using arbitral augmented generation by taking your longitudinal health record and making the searches contextual, but it also has all the guardrails of the clinician in it so that we're not going to actually get into a situation where we're communicating something clinically that a doctor would not want to communicate themselves. And I can speak to it, I can talk to it. It's all completely AI-powered. And you can use -- you can see here, I started to type, I started to talk, and I'm asking very simple questions. How does this compare to my last test? Questions in English, not questions about LDL versus HDL versus VLDL and all these other things. And what does this metric mean and what does that metric mean? Just speak in English.
This is very helpful for patients, but it also saves the providers a ton of time and a ton of money in answering questions, direct questions from consumers in isolation. As I move forward, the integrated clinical assistant is also going to guide the patient on the content that matters most. So you get this, first, you want to figure out what's wrong, if anything at all.
The next question you had, what should I tell my doctor? What am I supposed to ask? You ask a very simple question. What should I ask my doctor? And the generative AI is going to help the customer understand and help the patient in this understand and actually make recommendations to say, this is how you should communicate with your doctor. These are the questions you should ask.
Particularly helpful sometimes for patients who -- you have a situation where you go into a provider and the provider was 10 or 15 minutes and you get out, you say, I forgot to ask that. I meant to ask this, I meant to ask that. So all of this is done before the visit. And then actually drafts a note and said, would you like me to draft a note to the doctor, so you don't forget about this when you go into the provider.
When you go into the patient -- when you go into your next appointment, the provider has all of your questions ahead of time, has all of your contextual information and patients are in a state of far less worry because they've got this whole process automated. Again, we rolled that out. And without all the infrastructure and without the GPU infrastructure and the large language models running on top of it, we wouldn't be able to deliver that whole thing as a service.
Yes. And I think it's an important piece, right? So we're looking at this portal, and let me kind of go up one level higher, right, which is to say the engagement by us bringing these tools together, by bringing AI directly to the patient, right? What we're going to see with our portal is engagement in a level that we don't normally see with most portals.
Today, most of us have 4 or 5 portals on our phone because our health care data is in many different places. So the point that you made about bringing together the longitudinal record, that is not happening today. We have our data in all these different places. So by Oracle bringing it all together, and then also bringing AI, what we expect to see in our patient portal is a high level of engagement. And then we don't want to just keep that to Oracle and our providers' customers, but we want to open that up as well.
So we're going to allow the health care ecosystem to be able to connect directly with our portal as well. So we sort of see in the future that this portal becomes this is your go-to place for all of your health care information. You should be able to connect it with wearables, different devices, maybe new, maybe weight watchers, whatever that is, that you want to connect your health care data with.
So it kind of becomes a one-stop shop for the customer. And we think we've been talking to a lot of the other health care companies out there, and they want to partner with us because they want to be able to have a place where they know patients are going to be engaging.
A lot of -- one of the biggest challenges for health care providers is that patient engagement. So I think that's the power of the portal that we're bringing.
Yes. It's been stunning to see the engagement before and after engagement with this new breed of AI technology. And on the same token, we're rolling out the same thing for providers. So if we flip the script now, and you're into your doctor's office, and one of the first questions that doctors say, "Well, what can I help you with today? "
You sort of feel like saying, "Well, aren't you really supposed to know? I mean, shouldn't you kind of know that before we show up here?" And oftentimes, the doctor has the same problem. There's an overwhelming amount of information. They can't read everybody's chart. They can't read everything and they actually want to have that same consumer-like experience with the application.
They want to ask a very simple question. What should I know about William before I walk into the room. And that's the simple question that they ask. And now they get a summary here of the patient's last visit, things that may be happening with social determinants of health, not just medical records, but everything we know about that patient, briefly summarize, so the doctor walks in to a far more engaging interaction with this customer.
And this is a preview of -- well, this is actually generally available. Now this is our new electronic health record. And you can see, just like we saw in the financial crimes investigation agent, where you have these time lines over time that at any given point, I can click on this and see what's happened with this patient over time in a very easy-to-use screen.
This is all runs on tablets. It runs on mobile phones. So the form factor automatically resizes itself. And again, it's all built with AI built in. There is not a non-AI version of this. The AI is the underlying mechanism that powers the entire EHR. We just went through, as I said, went through regulatory approval.
And you're going to see the same benefit that the consumer gets, the doctor gets the same as well. Doctor wants to know about A1c trending over time. They have the same problem where you got to stack a PDFs and a stack of papers that are very difficult to get longitudinal information about, and therefore, very difficult to have an intelligent, contextually aware conversation with patients.
All of this is now available. And if you'd like, as a provider, all the screens are really not necessary because all of it can run in the background with a listener, and that's how most of our providers have actually chosen to update the new technology. You simply place a listener in the room, the listener can be a mobile device. And the whole thing is automated.
The whole thing is automated. The whole conversation between patient and provider is automated, the orders, the labs, the summaries, the patient discharge notes. And just like our financial crimes investigation AI agent at the end, the doctor still has to sign off on it. It's just a -- it's orders of magnitude different experience for patients and providers with health care systems, and we're just hugely excited about it.
Yes. I think it's a game changer for the industry, right? So let me just dig in a little bit deeper. You talked about the patient summary, right? And that's a short summary. But think about what it's like for the doctor, let's say, they're dealing with a 70-year old patient, right? There's multiple comorbidities.
We think about the veterans administration that we're working with and they're going to extend the Oracle EHR across their entire enterprise. And this is really important because you can think about the complexity, and they're having to go through sometimes thousands of pages of health care information.
And a lot of times things get missed or we're not addressing something. We don't -- the data is there, but the physician may not see it, it's a very short period of time. So the ability to have that summary is a game changer. And like you said, the SDOH, all of those different things.
And the automation, I think the other piece that's important is the autonomous coding, right? So the other thing on the screen there is that it'll recommend which codes. And this is an important piece because if we think about it for the health care industry, we're spending 25% to 30% on administrative costs, a lot of that is around billing. And the cost to collect for providers is about 5%.
So all of that money, just to be able to get the bill paid, and we're automating that entire process. So if we think about it, the whole billing process, at least in the United States, was built off a paper system, right? And then when we went to digital recorders, we just basically took that process and digitized this process. But with AI, we don't need to do all those things.
We don't need all of the different middlemen to be able to get this claim paid, right? We can actually do all of that with AI. And so our EHR sort of starts as, it's almost a misnomer to call it an electronic health record because it's really a system of intelligence. And it goes way beyond just the patient-doctor interaction. We started there. But we're trying to address all the problems across the entire ecosystem.
So that autonomous coding piece is really solving a lot of the friction between payers and providers. Not only are we going to try to make claims payment easier, but even just the prior authorization, all of those things that happen between the payers and providers, we're introducing those solutions.
And it's ironic that it's actually the payers that are coming to us and they're saying, look, after the big change event, there's a lot of concern about security and so being able to have the Oracle Cloud in the middle of this, helping with those transactions is really important to the industry, it's safer, it's more secure and also we can use AI to automate a lot of those processes.
So that's one piece on the payer side. And then there's a whole other piece with clinical trials, right? So if we think about it, most clinical trials and a lot of research is only happening a big, large academic centers. So if you're lucky to go to one of those, you may get connected with a clinical trial. If not, you never know what's going to happen.
And so what we're able to do with AI is we're able to do that matching inside the clinical trials. But where we're going is to be able to use that EHR not to actually do the clinical trial right inside the electronic medical record. Today, with clinical trials, what's happening is that they have to go to an entirely different system. So they actually physically move the data from the electronic health record into the electronic data capture for the clinical trial.
So you can imagine a lot of the back and forth work and the retyping and you got to have somebody to check in all the information. So our electronic health record is not only addressing, it's actually providing payer solutions and also the ability to help clinical trials and research on that end of the spectrum. So it's doing more than just helping the doctor and the patient, it's a much broader view.
Yes. Well, that's terrific. Thank you for giving us hope and for sharing the solutions because I really do agree that bringing this whole consumer-like experience to health care, both for patients and providers is going to be game changing. And obviously, your passion and knowledge in the space has been a big driver in helping us get to this point.
Something else interesting happened while we were bringing all this data together for health care providers. And that is we actually started to realize that there was more utility in the data in the collection of data on the AI data platform that we've used the power of these health care systems that just for the providers themselves.
But actually, as we become intimately close to these providers, we realized, particularly in the United States, that a lot of providers, a lot of health care providers have cash flow problems. And for those that are publicly traded, when they report out, they report out their cash flow in days -- report out their available cash in days, not weeks, months, years, but days. That's how much cash they have on hand.
And they've got to make decisions around payroll, ICU -- equipment for the ICU. These are real decisions that very big health care systems have to make. We looked at the data that we had. And we thought this might be -- and we asked questions about how do you finance these systems, how do you -- banks don't really know a whole lot about what we do, they don't know about a receivable flow.
And it's not that they had a receivables problem, but they actually just have a cash flow problem. It's not that they're not going to get the money, but when they're going to get the money is an acute problem, no pun intended for health care systems.
So we see the same kind of transactional flow happening across the board in our whole applications. You can see some of the stats there. And -- but we particularly leaned into a couple of industries, and we're going to talk about a few of them here, where the traditional financing models are very complex.
And the financing models really are complex because the banks, the financer in this situation does not have access to real-time data and the data that they do have access to has very little qualitative information about it. Very little qualitative information associated with it. So we, through the course of conversations with the health care providers, construction companies, we're going to talk about a few different examples here and the banks, we actually found out that the AI data platform is a wonderful vehicle for banks to learn a lot more about their customers and for customers that have a much better relationship with their banks.
So we're going to talk about embedded applications that benefit -- why it benefits the banks and also why it benefits the business or, in this case, the health care provider.
So with that, I'm very pleased and honored to have Lia, who is the Managing Director of Global Head of Payments and Embedded Finance at JPMorgan; and Geoff, the Managing Director and Head of Global Lending for Trade and Supply Chain Finance at Bank of America to come talk with us more about this exciting platform.
So thank you, Lia. Thank you, Geoff, for being here. I gave a very brief example, a very brief introduction to embedded finance and a little bit about health care, but I know it's more than the health care. Geoff, maybe just go down a little, I'll start with you. Could you give us a little bit of a preview of why this is so exciting and what we're actually doing here together to better serve our collective customers?
Yes. So Mike, as you alluded to before, so if you think about health care providers, they are our clients as well. And for years, they've had working capital issues and they come to their bank and say, look, we've got a working capital issue. We look at the model and we say, okay, it's not a payer problem. There's no shortage of customers. And what you realize quickly is what you have is just a working capital problem or a cash flow problem. And if you think about the way that banks help our clients solve these things, each industry becomes kind of a little bit different because it's got its own characteristics. And we think about health care.
Health care, the receivables can be hard. So the banks can do certain things, certainly of credit lines. You can, in some cases, hospitals can access the municipal bond market. But some ways that we traditionally help to free up cash flow and accelerate working capital are difficult for the banks because we don't have what we need in terms of like, okay, who's going to pay this and when and how much.
And for years, we chased that data, right? And Seema talked a little bit earlier about the data that's being followed to get a better health outcome, well, we at the banks, we're sort of chasing that same data. Somebody could think, well, what is the bank care about a certain procedure and how much of that gets paid and when.
And the reason that's important to us is because if we've got this receivable and we're trying to accelerate cash, we need to know what's going to be paid and when. And it became clear to us as we went through this process. And Mike, you alluded to this earlier that some of the data that you had aggregated, consolidated, and then we're very good at being connected to was exactly the same data that we would need to provide additional working capital options.
And as we thought about that, we said, okay, well, if we could do that, then we could layer in some of the AI predictive models on top of that to be able to say, "Okay, well, now we think we know with a bunch of procedures that happened what the expected payment will be and when, right?
And any of you that have experience with health care know that the original invoiced amount has very little relationship with what's actually paid at the end of the day. So we needed a way to get from point A to point B. And it became clear to us also as we saw that the availability of data that was coming in that Oracle had access to, not only that but also you were very good at layering on that AI at the end of the process to say, we're going to give you a predictive model that tells you what's expected to be paid.
And that solves our big problem, which is we don't know how to get from point A to point B in terms of what's invoiced and what's paid. And by doing this, we're able to help accelerate cash.
Thank you. Your perspective, Lia.
Yes. First, great to be here. So at JPMorgan, we are partnering with Oracle to embed payment services and financial services directly into the Oracle ecosystem. So that in Oracle solution like industry applications, Oracle can provide those payment services and relevant financial services to their clients directly in a very seamless, integrated and scalable way.
And I think for the banks, in my view, is a very meaningful evolution of how financial services are accessed and distributed, right, really through a platform approach. And by doing so, I think there's tremendous benefits to the -- our clients and to Oracle's clients as well, right?
I think of it as a very streamlined automated workflow so that the end clients have ultimate data and visibility and transparency of where the payments are. And then to Geoff's point, also the data plays a huge role here in delivering those benefits, especially in our strategic partnership, right? As I think about at JPMorgan, we -- in the Payments division, right, we processed about more than $10 trillion of payments every single day.
So we have a tremendous amount of data around who pays whom and when and how and where and in which currency. And that, coupled with the enormous amount of data in the Oracle industry applications. With that partnership, we know a lot about every single client. And I think that is a very powerful way to serve our clients to have that intelligence to serve our clients.
Yes. That's very helpful. Thank you. Geoff, when we started -- first started talking about this partnership, you gave me some stats about how much money was sitting on the sidelines in each one of these industries waiting to invest. But the problem was that the people willing to invest didn't know enough about the industry and couldn't get enough of the qualitative metrics to feel comfortable about this investment.
So this just changes that, we think. But ultimately, how does it benefit you as a bank? What's the ultimate benefit to the bank? How does it change your unit economics? How does it change your investing philosophy?
So we can kind of look at it along 2 vectors. So the first is we've got clients who are looking for better working capital management, so we can help them with that, right? I think that's the first thing, right? As we serve our clients, and we think that's a good thing because as you both have noted, you've got hospitals in the United States alone that are struggling financially, right?
And it's not because of lack of customers, it's not because of lack of high-quality payers. It's for free cash flow and working capital reasons often. So we can help.
The second thing is part of our business is connecting our clients to investment options, right? As we think about this, we think about the opportunity to take some of what is out there, predictable receivables in a way that hadn't been there before with high-quality payers, we can translate that into investment opportunities for the capital markets.
Now I can tell you the capital markets have, to your point, Mike, been waiting on the sidelines for great investment options that are always looking for things that are all over the risk profile. And for us, to have ways to be able to wrap things like receivables and say to them, look, not only do we have this investment option for you, but it's coming from a bank in a regulated environment with a risk management profile under a regulated environment.
And we've got it, and we're putting it out into the market, that means something to an investor, right? It means, okay, so there's been work that has been done behind the scenes to get us to the point where we think we have an investable asset. And that work, again, I think the reality was 5 or 6 years ago, there just wasn't enough out there.
We were chasing data in a 1,000 different ways. And people underestimate, I think, what I always call mechanical side of that. We can do credit analysis pretty easily. But what we can't always do is say, like, how will the mechanical parts of this? Where is the receivable being created? Where is it housed? How will it get from wherever it sits to the bank systems so that we can then do something with it and wrap it and send it to the market, all of that stuff is impactful to an investor, right?
A smart investor looks at all of that and says, look, I don't want to take my chances that this receivable becomes something else in the course of its lifetime. And I think as we track just historical data, performance data, all of the data that becomes available, all of that starts to become solved, and then we've got investable assets. So we've got on one side of it, we're helping our clients be better payers and on the other side of it, we're creating investable assets for our clients.
So are these investment products that you can create as a result, are these products that you previously couldn't create or you had to create with a different rating or different risk profile associated to them?
It's a really good question. So we're in the business of pricing risk, right? So part of that is, as I said, the credit risk, which is easy, but the other part of it is just as important, and that's -- people underestimate that side of it. And I think the reality is if the receivables were really hard the banks just kind of sat on the sidelines. So as you think about just some industries like health care, like construction, where there was uncertainty of payment from a bank's perspective because remember, by the time the data got to us, we only had access to small portions of it, right?
So all of it just looked like it was very unreliable. So in the context of a regulated risk managed bank environment, there just wasn't a way we could get comfortable with the predictability of outcomes. So for us, we put -- park that part of our toolkit and then we moved on to what we could do, right, create a facility or a municipal bond market or whatever it might have been. But that's the difference between what we had before and...
Yes. I think as we've talked, Geoff, it's been quite interesting to understand the bank's philosophy and all this is it's not that -- and we're going to talk about construction and retail and more than health care in a second. It's not that the bank necessarily is interested that Medicare is going to reimburse the provider for a hip replacement, but what you're more interested in is to make sure that, that person doesn't get readmitted to the ER in the next 30 days with an infection as a result of that because that actually changes the reimbursable for Medicare in a value-based arrangement.
That's the level of data that you need real-time. And obviously, for 1 patient easy, millions, hundreds of millions of patients, we'd have to scale that over time, very difficult to do without an AI data platform, kind of constantly monitoring and scanning for anything that could change the risk profile as well.
And this is to your point, people might think to themselves, well, would a bank be interested in that? We're very interested in that because it's predictability of outcome. It's the predictability of us getting repaid and an investor getting repaid. So it's very important to us.
Might just going to add one more thing, right, before we lead health care, right, is that the government in and of itself is now moving more towards those value-based payments, more capitated payments where they're not -- providers are not getting paid on more real-time. It's more after a year if you've taken risk. And so for providers, the need for cash flow is even -- has really increased dramatically. So I know our providers are very happy about this solution as well.
Yes. So many -- we could go on for a very long -- but just on health care alone, there's just so many interesting dynamics. And Lia, I'm going to shift gears for a little bit. Retail, restaurants, construction in all of these other industries where we're managing all these transactions, either at the point of sale or payment or money changing hands using the Oracle platform technologies today across so many different industries. How do you see the different needs in embedded payments across these different verticals industries, how do you see that evolving? And why is the automation so important to you?
Yes. No, great question. I think across all the industry verticals, I think there are common themes no matter which industry vertical, we want the payments to go out in a very secure way. I think we want to know or Oracle and the clients want to know the transparency where is my money. If something goes wrong, they want to know where the payment is stuck, right?
So I think there are foundational basic needs of security, transparency, right, and the optimization of the payments. Those are universal. Then to your point, Mike, for different industry verticals, they're nuances. We talked a lot about health care. Seema, you mentioned, it's a very complicated ecosystem with payers and providers and regulations and HIPAA compliance. So that really implies a lot of the payments handling, right, for data privacy and whatnot.
You think about another vertical consumer retail, you mentioned is really fast evolving into already omnichannel in person, in-store experiences with in-app purchases with online, like how do we deliver that payment experience in a holistic way. And today, we talked a lot about AI and people talk about agentic commerce. And in the future, maybe all the agents will do all the purchasing and whatnot on your behalf.
Then we need to think about fraud and authentication and liability shift and all those very interesting future business models or current business models that are evolving very rapidly I think with the power of data combined in our partnership and with the AI models on top of the data, that's where what I mean earlier, like the payment intelligence, right?
How do we deliver that insight into Oracle clients so that they know the fraud prevention, they know how to position cash, how to really mobilize all the transactions to add value to the ecosystem.
Yes. And so in some ways, this is automated embedding into the applications it becomes another distribution channel for the bank -- compliant distribution channel. We know a lot about the customers, we can automate KYC, all the things that need to be done. We've got that data. All of that data available as part of our industry applications just becomes a wonderful distribution channel and frankly, far easier for consumers to consume because it's just built -- it's built into everything that we do.
Totally. It's like a prebuilt enterprise-grade or banking and the payments core that's already compliant and extensible. So I think that is really where we're headed in cocreating this model.
We appreciate it. So I'll ask you both the same question. We're not the only technology vendor in the world. Why partner with us, why Oracle? What's special about this relationship between Oracle and the banks?
Look, you go with what works, right? And so there is -- as I said, we spend a lot of time chasing data to try and sort of predict outcomes, right? As I said, we're in the business of pricing risk and predictability is a big part of what we do. And I can tell you, we've burned a lot of calories on this in the banking world trying to sort of figure out how we can get from point A to point B in certain industry verticals.
One of the things about, as I said earlier, when you -- when each sort of financing opportunity grows up in a certain industry, it becomes bespoke to that industry to a large extent. And it's hard to move from one to the other, right? You have to have a level of expertise in each industry.
And what we realized, I think about Oracle is you're doing a lot of the really hard work. We don't always need to know when we talk about health care, like following data to get to a better health outcome is harder than what it is that we need to do. We're just sort of looking for -- at the end of the day, we need predictability of payment. That's a part of it, but it's not the hardest part of it, right?
So you guys are doing the hardest work, but a lot of that is stuff that's really, really useful to us. And what we found is it doesn't look that different in health care as it does in construction, as it does in retail. So now not only have we been able to solve and unlock some of these industry verticals, we've actually been able to migrate from vertical to vertical because we realize like predictability of outcome in an Oracle built model often looks the same across industries, but it's the same usefulness to us.
I think it's a terrific point, Geoff. We're not building a financing vehicle that is specific to an industry. We're building a platform that has industry context built into it, it's going to give you the data that you need, but actually scales across all the industries that we serve, right?
And that's not what we expected at first, right? We expected to kind of stay industry by industry. And it was only after going down this road a bit that we realized, this is more scalable and valuable than we thought it was, which I think is going to be a really good outcome.
You're right. I think for us, the partnership with Oracle is really critical. In terms of we share a lot of common values, right? I think Mike you talked about in your keynote just at the beginning of the conference, right, scalability, security, full stack advantage. I mean those are things that we look at our JPMorgan's platform, we share the same value.
And then we think by partnering with Oracle, that's a force multiplier, right? With the scale is just going to be that much more even more global, more scale, more extensible. And the security is really a critical, critical component. I think you also mentioned, right, whenever you add in a new component into the system, there's risk by integrating the 2 global platforms in a very digital right API-driven way, in a modular way, I think that creates this tremendous platform and infrastructure layer to serve our clients even better and more seamlessly.
Yes. Well, that's much appreciated. And we do resonate with the shared value. So I visited both of your organizations in person many times now and even -- but on the trading floors. And I can tell you that the passion is very contagious for this access to real-time data. So much appreciate it.
And to be clear, we're going to market together right now in construction in restaurants and health care and certainly plan so much more to come. So I'll finish where I started is that good things happen when the data is all in one place. And our ability to aggregate operational data, both qualitative and quantitative data and to deliver that as a service to you so that you can deliver that as a service back to our collective customers, we can't thank you enough for being a part of that. We can't thank you enough for pushing us and inspiring us and helping us to find this product, and I'm so excited about what's to come. Thank you, everyone.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
We will now take a short break. Lunch is located next door. Our programming will resume momentarily.
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Please welcome to the stage, Larry Ellison.
Hi, everybody. Let's see. Okay. So everyone is very excited about AI. It does extraordinary things. In fact, my son and I were just consulting it on a legal matter this morning because there was -- anyway, there was an interesting dispute between a couple of investment bankers as to certain rules about how much stock foreign corporations could own under certain circumstances and quickly ran off and asked a multimodal AI model and got an answer almost immediately. They're quite extraordinary. They certainly know all the laws in the U.K., all the laws in the United States, the rules of the New York Stock Exchange, the SEC, all of that, is trained on all of that data. And all that data is publicly available.
What is less common and what people want to do, but really can't do very easily right now is use their AI models, ChatGPT, Grok, Llama, Anthropic, all of them, to reason not on publicly available data where the models have been trained on the Internet, all of the Internet, but private data, the private trading records of an investment bank on Wall Street or the private genomic data of a genetic engineering company. that's analyzing genomes. And genomes, it's an enormous amount of data, and they'll do gene sequencing on plants. I'm actually going to -- I'm going to show it in a minute because I think it's such an interesting example. We're working on a lot of plant genetics, and I'll describe a couple of the projects we have ongoing.
But people don't realize how big plant genomes are. The human genome is right around 3 billion base pairs -- actually a little short of 3 billion base pairs. The wheat genome is 15 billion base pairs, 15 billion base pairs. Because wheat has been around a lot longer than human beings, and wheat has been evolving over time. And when you sequence wheat, you get this massive information. And by the way, there are all these different varieties. I didn't know this a year ago -- 2 years ago.
There are all these different varieties of wheat grown all over the world based on variations in soil and variations in climate. And they all do things slightly differently. They do photosynthesis slightly differently. The genomes are different. And what you want to do, if you want to optimize wheat, if you want to increase yield or make it drought resistant, you want to really look around at all the varieties of wheat and analyze and understand the genomes of wheat. And you've spent a lot of money to sequence all those wheat plants. And that's your proprietary information. And your business is to produce this new variety of wheat that is going to be drought-resistant, higher yield, and that's your business, and you don't want to share that information with other people.
How do you do that? How do you do that? Oracle ran a project inside. First thing we did, we took all of our customer data, all of our proprietary customer data, and we have a lot of customer information. We have a lot of people using Oracle in the cloud every day where we keep track of what they're doing. We're curious about what features of Fusion applications they use more frequently, what features they tend not to use as frequently, what features require -- what features are not so easy to use. People tend to make mistakes on that. So we monitor all of this, and we find someone's making a bunch of mistakes using a particular feature, there's probably -- the feature is not easy enough to use, and we want that insight, and we want to go ahead and fix it.
But how do you get the -- back to the basic problem, the basic problem that has not been generally solved is how do you take these fabulous reasoning models and allow them to reason on your private data, whether it's plant genomics or customer usage in the cloud and what features are easy and what features are error-prone. How do you take your private data, make that available to AI models while keeping that private data private? And can we make that easy to do? Because everybody, everybody wants to do that.
And we've been working on this problem for some time. And we call it -- and we have a new version of the Oracle database called the Oracle AI Database. And we didn't name it the AI Database just because AI is fashionable, as I said the other day. We did it because the AI -- the new -- our new database has a lot of new features to solve this problem, to solve this exact problem, solve this one problem. How do you make all of your private data accessible to AI models for reasoning while keeping that data private without compromising data privacy in any way. And we've done that, and we call it the AI database.
And by the way, just the latest version of the Oracle database. This is not an all-new database. This is not an AI database in the sense of Pinecone is where -- it's just a vector database for AI. By the way, we added vectors to our database, but it's still the full Oracle Database that has all the Oracle security features, all the Oracle high-performance features, all the recovery features, all of that. But we've added all of this AI capability to the Oracle Database. So it's highly secure, highly reliable, highly scalable, very fast. And -- but it makes your private data easily accessible by the AI models, okay?
And again, we also decided that if we're going to do that, if we're going to make the data -- we actually should have -- make it easy in the Oracle Cloud for users to pick the AI -- their preferred AI model. We use a variety of AI models. I mean, again, Anthropic tends to be pretty good at code generation. So if you're doing programming, Anthropic is pretty good at that. ChatGPT is a phenomenal legal expert. I can just go into this. These models are somewhat different. And depending on the application, you might use one model, or you might use a different model. So we decided to make all of the popular AI models available inside of our cloud. So Oracle, if you go to OCI, you can get ChatGPT 5.0. You can get Google Gemini. You can get xAI Grok 4 Heavy. You can get the latest versions of Llama from Meta.
You can -- and because the Oracle AI Database, to be an AI database, to do reasoning. Oracle doesn't do the reasoning. You need the model on top of Oracle to do the reasoning. So when you configure the Oracle AI Data platform, you pick one of these models, and we then give you a private version of that model, sitting on top of the Oracle Database with your private data in it. And so it's all there. You just configure the model you want. I mean basically click on the name of the model you want, we configure it and put it on top of your database.
And then the Oracle Database will make all of the data -- all of your private data that you authorize, it will make it all available to the AI model. How does it do that? Well, it uses a technology called RAG, retrieval-augmented generation. It simply allows the AI model to read the database. There's a server, there's an MCP server. The AI models are designed to be able to go and read anything on the Internet that's publicly available, but they also can read private data, whether it's in a file system or in a database, different kinds of databases. It can do all of that. It can go out and look at that data, read it and actually understand it.
So that's what we did. I'm going to go into a little bit of detail on how it works. The -- what we added to the Oracle Database, obviously, we had a RAG capability. But right now, the Oracle Database can vectorize all of your data in the database. It can vectorize text, it can vectorize images, it can vectorize videos. And what AI models understand -- the format of data that AI models understand are vectors. And for example, a very famous AI search is, "Vectorize a particular movie and then show me movies that are similar in content to that movie." And that's a vector search. "Find me a movie where the vector is similar to the other movie or other movies somebody else watched." They use it for recommendation engines.
But also for gene sequencing. For gene sequencing, there are genetics -- there are gene sequences to do with photosynthesis. So you find a set of sequence -- gene sequences that are doing photosynthesis, and you say, "Find me all -- and all the other genomes that I have, find me the gene sequences that are involved with photosynthesis." And we can find that part of the genome, searching through the 15 billion base pairs, we can immediately zoom in on that part of the genome. And then you can say, "Show me the differences between how this plant does photosynthesis and how this other plant does photosynthesis." And you do that with something called vector search. And there's a whole bunch of vector mathematics that has vector spaces and vector distances and all of that.
But that's what we do. That's what we've done to make this an AI databases, is allow you to vectorize all of your data, all the different types of data. Once you've done that, if you look at what we were able to do, as I said, the first project doing this inside of Oracle, the first of our private data that we decided to make available to an AI multimodal model was our customer data because I'm not sure, for us, there's anything more valuable than our customer data. The -- and then we started asking questions once we vectorized our customer data.
And for example, you'll see what I mean by valuable, what Oracle customers -- this is my second group -- under the second bullet -- first line under the second bullet. "What Oracle customers are likely to buy another Oracle product in the next 6 months?" We'd like to know who they are. And we'd like to know -- second line, "What Oracle product are they most likely to buy?" And those are the kind of questions you can ask using a reasoning model. And you get -- then it tells you.
And then you can ask, but you can also have agents associated with this. It doesn't just have to be ask a one-step question. You can actually ask us, okay, well, let's send e-mail to all of those prospective buyers and let's show them the three best Oracle references in your -- for you, in other words, in your industry, in your country that are -- bought the same product and used it successfully. So as you look at this, I mean, you would build -- if you were a company building CRM software, or sometimes called CX software, customer engagement software, the ability to enable your customers to ask these kinds of questions, to build an application -- CX application suite where you could do this kind of AI marketing, if you will, AI reasoning on top of the customer data and qualify leads and then pursue leads with agents. You qualify leads through the reasoning process. And then through the agent process, you would go ahead and pursue those leads. That's how you go about building the next generation of CX applications, and that's what we're doing.
And we do all of that while maintaining the strict privacy of your customer data or your genomic data or whatever. Medical genomic data is very, very sensitive. So you have to keep it private. So the Oracle Database security model, which we've worked on for decades, is what we rely on to keep this private because the vectors are inside the Oracle Database. And we use a security model, again, that we've been working on for a long period of time to make this -- keep your data private while making it accessible to AI models.
Next slide. I'll press my clicker button. Great. Okay. So as we're building the next generation of CX products, we're not -- we are the owner of Java. The Supreme Court might disagree with that. But -- and Google probably would, too, because they won the case. But we bought Sun who developed Java. We are the primary maintainer of Java, and it is the world's most popular programming language to this day.
However, in the age of AI, you can use something like Anthropic or ChatGPT or Grok to write code. And you can just declare your intent what -- in other words, say what you want the program to do, and the AI will generate the step-by-step process to do it. So it won't be conventional coding. It's called vibe coding, an interesting term, which is just, I guess, [ steel ] vibe, very modern term for coding. But it's really just what do you want the program to do? You just tell me what you want the program to do and don't worry, I'll generate it.
Now we have been doing this for a while, doing code generation for a while. And there's a big debate inside of Oracle, and there are people on both sides of the debate. I'll tell you what side I'm on, which is programming in English. In other words, declaring what you want the program to do in English. English is a notoriously imprecise way to communicate. It's not like mathematics. There's a lot of ambiguity in English. To make English perfectly clear, perfectly precise is very difficult.
So we think you could have an alternative declarative programming language, which was designed to declare intent of what a program should do. You could create that language with great -- and then with great precision, you could generate the code. Now the jury is out. People are programming and declaring intent in English and generating code, and people are declaring intent in specialized languages, to declare intent designed to be precise and designed specifically for code generation. I'm -- having done both, I'm a great believer in a more specialized language. I think once you learn the specialized language, you're much more productive in generating code. And our experience is -- I mean, these are huge, huge improvements in productivity, 10x productivity if you generate the code rather than writing the code.
One of the reasons we felt we could take on something like Cerner, and we knew we were going to have to rewrite all the Cerner code. We have to rewrite it all. And it took decades for Cerner to write that code. And we thought we could rewrite it all in a few years because we weren't going to rewrite it. We were going to generate it using AI. And that's what we've done and built very complicated and interesting agents using AI. And in fact, in the future, what are computer programs? Computer programs are a collection of agents connected by workflow. That's what they'll be.
Okay. This is a big leap from code generation and making your private data accessible to AI models. This is a greenhouse that we have developed. It's version 3 of a greenhouse that we're developing. Actually, it's Danny Hillis' team. Oracle made an investment in what's called Applied Inventions. Danny Hillis, by the way, invented thinking machines when he was undergraduate in MIT.
Actually, Danny and I used to be competitors. I was working on a computer out of -- with the Caltech team doing something called nCUBE, which was massively parallel computing. It was parallel computing. It was, if you will, the precursor to NVIDIA and vector processing in computing. It was doing a lot of calculations in parallel, which obviously is very important now. Unfortunately, as Danny and I discussed because we both failed, nCUBE failed and thinking machines failed. We both lost a lot of money and a lot of time on this. We learned a lot. But we were about -- I was going to say 20 years too early, but it was more than that. I don't want to talk about it. I'm going to do the calculations.
But anyway, Danny is now -- we bought his company. And one of the things that we're working on is -- and he's really responsible for, amongst other things, robotics inside of Oracle because robotics is a very special case of AI. The leading AI model for robotics is very easy to figure out. It's owned by Elon Musk, but it's not Grok. It's the AI model he built at Tesla. And he -- the first popular common robots in the world -- I mean, yes, there are robots -- there are general-purpose robots. Yes, there are robots that assemble PCs and laptops and desktop PCs and a lot of electronics and iPhones and all of that. There are tons of special-purpose robots.
But the first, what I would call kind of general-purpose robot is the self-driving robot that Tesla has created. And then Elon is working on his second group of robots, which are humanoid robots. So he's going from 4-wheel robots to 2-legged, 2 armed robots, general-purpose robots using full AI model, real-time AI models. And we're doing -- we're not creating the AI models from scratch. We're using those models to automate a variety of things. And this is a greenhouse, by the way, that has no people in it. That yellow thing over there, they're very large.
The reason there are no people in it, there are a few reasons. One, is the atmosphere inside of this greenhouse. By the way, there is no structure. This is -- this building is held up by air pressure. So there's positive air pressure inside of the building, and that holds up the roof, which is ETFE, which is a kind of plastic that lets through -- it's the most transparent material in the world, let's through more light than any other material, more light than glass or other forms of plastic.
And if you talk to Danny and said, what do greenhouses do? Well, basically, they convert sunlight and CO2 into food. And we don't let people in here because people can contaminate the plants and people aren't going to like all the CO2 and all the humidity we have in here. And the robots will move the plants from the growing area into the harvesting area. And AI decides when you harvest the plants, there are cameras, AI decides we can grow different crops in here.
The only greenhouse -- you have lots of different crops inside the same greenhouse because it's completely computerized. And the nutrition, if you're growing strawberries is very different than the nutrition when you're growing lettuce. The heating requirements, we heat the plants from the bottom. We don't heat the whole building. Anyway, I'm not going to give you all the details. But each area is carefully climate controlled, atmospherically controlled. The hydroponic nutrition is all computer-controlled. And it's designed to produce food at a much higher quality and a much lower cost than currently other forms of vendors are growing.
By the way, when you grow indoors, you use 90% less water, which is truly incredible. By the way, this is also a habitat from Mars. So if you think about an interesting use for a greenhouse, I don't think it's a huge market. I don't think our Martian market is going to be gigantic. It's not in our numbers, by the way. None of the Martian consumption of our technology is in any of our numbers. That's all upside.
So the -- what does the greenhouse do? The greenhouse grows food. And if you're going to have people living on Mars, you need to grow food. But it also converts CO2 into oxygen, doesn't it? So if you're going to have people living on Mars, you're going to have to -- they're going to have to breathe, and you can either ship the oxygen from earth to Mars or you can create the oxygen from CO2 on Mars. And the people can create the CO2 that the plants will consume. So this is a kind of a combination. Its intent, by the way, our first market, we really have focused on earth. But just notice that this thing would be a perfect habitat for Mars or other places you want to go. As I say, it's really -- it's not in our business plan.
This is what the whole building looks like from the outside. The green areas are the harvesting areas. The robots will move the plants into the harvesting and packaging areas. And again, there are no people in the growing areas at all. It's kind of interesting.
As long as we're talking about plants, I want to give you an example of the kind of things we're doing with our database, to make it work better with AI. And in addition to being able to vectorize all of the data, which makes the data easy for AI to consume, we've also created special data types during the -- let me give my verb tense correct, are in the process of creating special data types for DNA. And say DNA search is -- a DNA search -- by the way, that is wrong, and it's my fault. It says, "The wheat genome is 15 million base pairs." It's 15 billion base pairs. Human being, 3 billion base pairs.
And it's got all of the historic genes, all the genes that became obsolete during the hundreds of millions of years of evolution of wheat on the planet Earth. It's just a grass. Wheat on the planet Earth is recorded in that genome. It's why it's so large. We don't delete when genes suddenly stop being used, they don't get deleted. So there's a whole history of how the wheat evolved. That's very interesting that you capture when you gene sequence wheat or you gene sequence plants or animals for that matter, you capture their evolutionary history.
And the things we're doing -- another team is doing, not Danny's team, is looking at wheat photosynthesis. And if you can improve wheat photosynthesis, and they have -- they have to improve wheat photosynthesis using AI. They've changed the -- they've used CRISPR-Cas9, a gene editing technology, to improve photosynthesis. When you improve photosynthesis, you convert more CO2 and more sunlight into food. So the yield per acre of this wheat we created -- they created. I didn't have much to do it -- I didn't have much to do with it. Actually it has 20% more yield per acre. So we're producing more food in the same space.
Another thing that we're looking -- and that's already working today. So the increased yield through -- using AI to figure out how to improve photosynthesis. And once we figure out how to do it, you use CRISPR/Cas9 to go ahead and do it and actually do the gene edits. The thing we're looking at right now is, not just converting CO2 into food, but also converting CO2 into calcium carbonate. I'm sure all of you will be fascinated by the fact that the coral reefs are made up of calcium carbonate. The plants that live in coral reefs actually -- they actually secrete calcium carbonate, their own skeleton. Well, we have skeletons too, right? They also have a lot of calcium in them.
We are now engineering a version of wheat that will convert CO2 out of the atmosphere into calcium carbonate, an inert version of CO2. Therefore, you can take vast -- you can have varieties of wheat that take vast amounts of CO2 out of the atmosphere and deposit it in the ground as little, tiny microscopic pieces of sand -- calcium carbonate sand. And you can manage the level of CO2 in the atmosphere pretty much to whatever you want it to be at no cost, at no cost.
And the world right now is working on this problem of figuring out what to do with CO2 in the atmosphere, and they have all these interesting ideas, which -- including getting rid of all fossil fuels, which is very difficult. And -- but there are other ways to tackle the problem that might be much easier and much more cost effective. And then, by the way, if you look at the markets, you can actually figure out if you're a farmer, you can use satellite imagery, AI and satellite imagery, to look at your wheat fields and figure out exactly how much CO2 you're taking out of the atmosphere, and then you can get carbon credits. You can trade it for carbon credits, okay? And kind of an interesting approach to -- and a much simpler approach to managing CO2 in the atmosphere than what we're currently doing.
Another one -- another interesting example that we're working on, again, with plant genomics using DNA data types, using vector search, for using all these AI capabilities. It's -- right now, we fertilize. Almost all the plants that we fertilize in North America and Europe throughout, we fertilize them with nitrogen fertilizer, huge amounts of nitrogen fertilizer. Because -- even though there's tons of nitrogen in the atmosphere, nitrogen is the most common element in our atmosphere. We breathe it in. We don't use it, but we breathe it in every time we take a breath.
But some plants, soybeans, for example, actually get their nitrogen directly from the atmosphere. Well, we can engineer corn or wheat or other plants to get their nitrogen from the atmosphere, so we don't need fertilizer. And fertilizers do incredible environmental damage. During rains, it runs off into rivers, a bunch of nitrogen runs into the rivers and into lakes. You get these big blooms of plants in the lake and in the rivers. And plus, a lot of farms can't afford to buy fertilizer. Therefore, their yields are half what the farm yield should be. Well, we can fix that. We can fix that by having versions of corn, version of these grains that fix the nitrogen from the atmosphere.
So that's my -- that's my presentation on what we're doing with the Oracle Database. The primary thing, make it easy for people to use AI models on top of their private data while keeping it private. And then we have all of these advanced technologies that we're adding right now so that as -- if you are in the business of genomics -- and by the way, that's every pathology department, that's all of medicine is in the business of genomics. All of agriculture is in the business of genomics. These 2 enormous businesses, you have to fully -- your database have to fully understand DNA and have operators that can operate on these enormous data types -- these enormous genomic data types. That's what we've been doing. That's what we're currently doing.
I think the -- I think, again, fully ignoring Mars, there's enormous upside to our database business over the next 5 years. We think it's going to be one of our fastest-growing businesses. And we don't think -- and we're happy to talk about this later when we -- in Q&A. We don't think we have a lot of competitors left in the database business. It's fascinating. Our primary competitors in database, let's say, the Databricks, you could say, is new -- or it's kind of the newest one. Snowflake, they don't even do transactions. They're query-only systems. There aren't a lot of new database technologies being invested in.
We're kind of the only game in town. We think that gives us an enormous opportunity to increase our franchise in the database business over the next 5 years and the dawn of the AI era if we can merge our database technology with the latest AI technology. Thank you very much.
Please welcome to the stage Doug Kehring.
I think Larry used the magic word, upside. So I'll be presenting our updated financial outlook, which I know I think everyone has been anxiously waiting to hear. But let's start off with the usual exciting stuff that Ken went over earlier. It's funny now that they're asking me to certify the financials. This actually means a lot to me. So please pay attention. Okay. This one reminds you about our forward-looking statements. And this one is reminding you that we'll be using some non-GAAP financial measures in my presentation.
Okay. You've heard the strategy throughout the day from Larry, Clay, Mike and the rest of our management team. We have an unbelievably strong and deep set of enterprise technologies for both cloud and AI. And we have the vision, leadership and experience to execute this. It's now time to see how all of this impacts our financials.
Building on our long-term expectations can be boiled down to a few simple steps. First, we work extremely hard to turn the customer momentum we are seeing as evidenced by the amazing enthusiasm you probably -- you've seen here at AI World into an accelerating RPO backlog. Second, we then deploy our operational expertise to provide capacity to customers that help us turn that backlog into accelerating revenue growth. Third, we leverage this growing footprint, scale and the utilization rates of our data centers to turn this larger revenue into profit growth. And the result is that we are raising our long-term financial outlook again.
I'm going to quickly walk you through the process of how we arrived at these new figures. The best way to think about Oracle these days is as a hypergrowth company. Our remaining performance obligations, or RPO, is the clearest indicator of the revenue that's about to come. As we announced on Q1 earnings, we highlighted two things on this topic: First, that our RPO balance now exceeds $455 billion, up 359% year-over-year; and second, that we expect RPO to likely exceed $500 billion. In fact, already through the first 1.5 months of Q2, we've signed several additional large contracts, as Clay mentioned during his presentation, which put us over the $0.5 trillion mark. The demand we are seeing is really hard to comprehend. To put it in perspective, our RPO balance is up nearly 10x since fiscal year 2022. Clearly, the customer demand is strong, but it's also enduring.
The biggest impediment to growth right now isn't so much finding customer opportunities, but rather executing on these opportunities by converting that demand into revenue as soon as possible. As our data center operations engine has revved up and we become more experienced at it, we are bringing on capacity faster and faster and with more efficiency, as Clay discussed earlier. The ramping has already started, as you've seen over the last couple of years, with cloud growing as a percentage of total revenue from 20% in FY '20 to 44% in FY '25.
As cloud crosses the 50% mark as a percentage of our total revenue, the revenue growth rate is further accelerating as evidenced by the forecasted 16% growth rate for fiscal year '26. To put this growth rate in perspective, the last time Oracle grew this fast organically was over 15 years ago. As well, when you look at the expected revenue growth rates over the next 12 months, for companies in the S&P 500 with more than $50 billion of revenue, there are less than 5 companies growing faster than Oracle, and we aren't even close to seeing the peak growth rate yet.
As our revenue begins to accelerate, so does our operating income growth. The reason is that our pricing discipline, coupled with scale efficiencies enable us to gain significant profit leverage as our revenue grows. As the utilization rate of each data center increases, they contribute more profits. And the rest of our operating expenses have grown much more slowly than revenue, also helping further our profit growth.
Now before I turn to the updated financial outlook, I wanted to revisit the figures that we presented at last year's Financial Analyst Meeting. As you may recall, we announced, last year, our expectation to reach over $100 billion in total revenue by FY '29, nearly double the revenue from FY '25, while simultaneously accelerating our profit growth. But that was last year.
As we dive into this year's outlook, I want to start by explaining what is guiding us as we work to deliver the financial outlook that I'm about to share. First, every customer is put through the prospect of the lens of both a revenue opportunity and a profit opportunity. I've read a lot of stories that are speculating that Oracle is chasing revenue for revenue's sake. But let's be crystal clear. We only pursue opportunities where we have a clear line of sight to attractive margins that reward us for our intellectual property and the activity we bring to customers.
Second, as we work to build capacity, we are pursuing a range of financing options to support our growth. We pay careful attention to our cash flow, our debt ratings, our debt capacity and the various funding mechanisms that are at our disposal. These all factor into how we strategically grow revenue and profits faster. Third, we are working diligently to constantly match our expenses as our revenue ramps in our data centers. This operational discipline is critical to be able to deliver profits to our shareholders faster. And fourth, our overall cost focus on every aspect of the company will help us deliver higher profits from our revenue base. That has not changed, and it will not change. And finally, if all of this works in harmony as we expect, the result is superior investor returns for our shareholders.
So here goes. Clay showed you earlier our updated infrastructure revenue targets, which are even higher than what we shared on our Q1 earnings call. Building on that, along with the RPO backlog that we've already signed, the customer opportunity pipeline and the strength of our competitive differentiators, we see much more revenue upside in the next 5 years than just a year ago.
Our updated revenue target is to reach $225 billion by fiscal year 2030. This represents a CAGR of over 31% over the next 5 years. Our pipeline is very deep, and we could see more large-scale opportunities signed over the next 12 months, which could change this forecast and outlook further. And in terms of profit growth, we forecast reaching $21 of EPS by fiscal year 2030. This represents a CAGR of 28% over the next 5 years, consistent with my comments that revenue and profits are symbiotic. These figures are stunning with both revenue and EPS growing nearly 4x over the next 5 years.
Now before I turn it back to Larry, Clay and Mike for Q&A, it's important to note that these figures are as of this moment in time. If we see additional demand that enables us to grow revenue and profits faster, we will accelerate near-term investments in order to capture additional market share. As Larry recently said, "AI is a much bigger deal than the industrial revolution, electricity and everything that has come before."We are extremely well positioned for this opportunity, and we will pursue more growth so long as it fits our profitability expectations. Thank you."
Please welcome back to the stage, Larry Ellison, Clay Magouyrk, and Mike Sicilia.
Give me a moment to recover from those numbers. Okay. Oh my God, this is nuts. Okay. No questions. Thank you all very much.
2. Question Answer
Jackson Ader at KeyBanc Capital Markets. Yes, this is great. All right. Let's start with those numbers. I guess, first, I'm curious, Clay, when you gave the gigawatt illustrative example, right, like we're going to make $60 billion, it's going to cost $39 billion, something like that. Is that purely illustrative? Is that an average? And then your largest customers, whether it's Meta, OpenAI or what have you, are they even close to that type of gross margin? Or do they come in below that?
Sure. So first, it is illustrative. But the reason why it's more illustrative than exact details is because a gigawatt is changing very quickly, right? Is it a gigawatt of H200s? Is it a gigawatt of GB200? Is it a gigawatt of GB300? Are we talking about MI355? What's the mixture of the number of GPUs to the amount of storage compared to the amount of general purpose compute? So obviously, it doesn't sound like a big difference, but that can be plus or minus 10% to 20% of revenue both ways.
In terms of the margin profile, no, it's very illustrative of even the very largest customers. So we are very committed, like when I gave you that range of margin, it wasn't like this is the margin and there's an asterisk and this is only for like the customers that aren't driving all of the revenue growth. That would be counterproductive for me, it'd be counterproductive for you. That absolutely is illustrative of even the very biggest deals that we're doing. I feel like you're like confused.
Microphone back. No. Okay. No, that is very helpful. And then I'm curious, Larry, maybe this makes more sense for you. Just if we think -- and I'll stand up again, I'm sorry. If we think about what AI can do to your internal operations, we're looking at $21 in EPS in 5 years. What does that imply your internal usage of AI does for your operating expense growth in that kind of time frame?
Yes. I think -- I mean we've underestimated how the positive impact of AI for internal use. I don't think we've -- but I'll let the guys comment on that. But I don't think -- we do have estimates. I mean, clearly, our program is going to be more productive. We're going to produce more product. We're going to be more ambitious. We're going to write more programs. We're going from industry suites to, if you will, entire ecosystems where you look at the health care ecosystem, it's hospitals plus government regulators, plus pharma companies, individual patients, it's entire ecosystems. And we'll be able to do that. So a lot of the productivity will be -- we'll have more comprehensive suites of software. But I would still say we've not fully accounted for the scale of the productivity gains, but I'll let these guys respond to that because they actually run the business.
Yes. A couple of examples, I think, that are relevant. Just internally, I shared earlier in the health care section. Usually, these regulatory cycles take 2 to 3 years to get through approval. We got through a regulatory cycle in 6 months because we're able to automate all of the documentation required for the regulatory. Now it doesn't really displace any people, but allows us to get to market far more quickly and capture revenue much earlier in the cycle than we would have had.
To Larry's point, we start to look at certain functions across the company in our engineering space. And we do have some internal estimates that we've been going through. And frankly, they keep changing for the better. They actually keep getting better. Cogeneration, QA, support ticketing and support tickets. I mean, all these operations are large global scale operations. At this point, we're really focused on productivity enhancements. How can we make people more productive so that we don't have to bring on a lot more labor to get the same thing done.
Early days in terms of where we'll go in terms of the labor force in general. But I would say we're certainly optimistic that particularly for -- at least for industry development, I can tell you very specifically, that we hit a baseline in cost that scales dramatically, and we don't need to add additional cost from a labor perspective to get not just the same amount done, but actually about twice or 3x as much done. That's the kind of scale factor that we're looking at.
Let me add one more thing. We really can't just look internally if how AI is going to change Oracle and make us more productive. It's also going to change our customers. It's going to change the FDA. What happens if the FDA can get through clinical trials in half the time they be used to. What happens if pharma companies can design drugs in half the time and 1/4 of the cost than they used to do it. It's not just us changing internally. The entire ecosystem called the Planet Earth is going to start becoming more efficient. And it's -- there are going to be these incredible effects on the entire economy. We will be a much more prosperous and wealthier world because of artificial intelligence, because of robotics, because of drug design, because of government agencies and regulators making use of these technologies. As they say, AI changes everything. It's going to make us much more efficient across the board.
Rishi Jaluria, RBC. Really appreciate the session. A lot of great detail and obviously, amazing to see these sort of numbers. One question that I think a lot of us have been kind of weighing on the architecture side is -- and maybe it's an overly simplistic way, but what goes into as we think about the balance of power shifting from training to inferencing, fine-tuning, reasoning, et cetera, how easy is it to repurpose that architecture and really eke out the most efficiency out of all that you're building? Maybe if you could walk us through, that would be helpful.
Sure. Well, look, in my keynote yesterday, Peter from OpenAI, I think, did a good job of addressing that exact question. So for an even better answer, we can send you the video link. But one of the things he described is that especially for these large model providers, it's critically important that they have flexible architecture. And the reason for that is that there's this concept that, hey, models get trained, then they get copied off somewhere and then reasoning happens. But actually, models are constantly being updated. And also, as a provider, you need the flexibility to shift back and forth, right? You're doing research on new models. You're doing training updates on existing models, and you also have customer demand.
Let's say that you're a provider and you have a viral event where suddenly you get a huge amount of demand, you need the ability to say, okay, let's not do that training run and use that for inferencing. But -- so obviously, it's better if the infrastructure is flexible. Well, it turns out you can build it flexibly, and that's exactly what we're doing, right? So you build it for the maximum requirements, which is really the highest kind of demand training workloads. And if you do it well, it's a huge amount of effort around optimizing the power of the data center design, optimizing the networking design, then fundamentally, that infrastructure is both very capable of doing the reasoning as well as it's also very cost effective at doing the reasoning.
Great. Tyler Radke from Citi. Congrats again to you, Clay and Mike on the well-deserved promotions. Clay, I wanted to go back to one of the slides from your opening presentation around the AI database forecast. I think you're expecting $20 billion of revenue in FY '30. And I was just wondering if you could kind of unpack the -- or stack rank the key drivers of that? Is that kind of the traditional database migrations to the cloud? And then what is it going to kind of take for the AI start-ups that are buying your infrastructure to start using your databases?
Well, I don't know if you saw it, but I signed this up for $20 billion.
I saw it.
Okay, good. Well, honestly, I say, Larry, why don't you start? I think it's actually a great question of why are you so excited about people adopting our AI data platform?
Yes. I think -- again, I think there's a lot of -- it's an incredible number. The $20 billion is a pretty solid growth rate over the next 5 years. That said, we think everyone is going to want to do reasoning on top of -- by the way, reasoning and inference -- I'm using reasoning and inferencing the same way. And inferencing is kind of the -- AI models do more than inferencing. They do deduction, they do inferencing, they do rules, they do mathematical calculations. So reasoning might be is a little more modern word than inferencing, but it's applied AI. It's actually using the models to reason. I don't know who's not going to do that.
Now the question is how quickly can we deliver it, transfer the technology to our customers. Again, it's the same -- it's not going to be a demand problem, that is for sure. It's going to be how quickly can we get -- transfer this technology to our customers and help them be successful and get started using this technology. Now the good news is there are a lot of our customers -- well, customers are very familiar with the Oracle database. And it's not that they have to relearn the Oracle database. They just have to take advantage of these new features of the Oracle database. And we've got great distribution of the Oracle database right now. You can get it -- obviously, you can get it in Azure. You can get -- by the way, that alone, just multi-cloud alone is going to drive a huge amount of adoption.
Remember, it wasn't long ago. The only cloud you could get the Oracle database in was OCI. And OCI is a great cloud, but not everyone is in OCI. So the fact that we're building all of these data centers, we started with Azure, and we have quite a few data centers in Azure. And if you look at the numbers, if you unpack our numbers, that 1000% plus growth rate we have in multi-cloud is being driven by Azure, who were the first ones that signed up from multi-cloud, and we got the data centers all built and running for them. We're not anywhere near at scale at Google, who came second and then Amazon who came third.
So just scaling out those data centers, just the normal migration, what you asked for the normal migration that's going to be enabled because of multi-cloud is going to, I think, easily get us to $20 billion. I'm not trying -- I don't want to raise those numbers up any at all. But Clay said it's $20 billion. I'll take it. But I think we get -- I think multi-cloud alone might get us there. Well, multi-cloud alone gets us there, what about the use of -- it is a vector database for AI. It's very hard to extrapolate because we have no points. We really don't know how big that's going to be, but I think it's going to be all of our -- it's going to be everybody, right?
I think it's not just an accelerated business on its own as a platform service. But keep in mind, it's the same platform that we build all of our applications on top of as well. So the $20 billion is just the revenue that we'll collect from that platform service alone. We're also very optimistic that this continues to propel our application growth because all the Agentic AI agents that we spoke about earlier today with Steve and Mark and Seema, all of that's built on top of the AI platform as well. And if not for that, we wouldn't be able to go as fast and grow our applications business as quickly as we are, too. So it all sort of works -- it all works together.
Yes. I think that's so interesting with what Mike is saying because you said who are the first users of the AI data platform? It will be our internal application groups or our first users. And one of the advantages I've always thought Oracle had, and you could also say one of the disadvantages Oracle had, and I'll come back to that, is that we do -- we do applied technology. We do applications. We use our tech, and we also build the tech. We build data centers. We train models. We build databases. We build all of this -- we build code generators. We do all this stuff to enable the creation of applications and then we actually create the applications.
None of the other 3 big cloud vendors do that. They are primarily tech platforms. They are not -- they don't build large-scale applications. We get all of these insights from building these large-scale applications where Mike's team will say that, gee, it would really be nice if I could do this more easily. And not that these guys ever -- not that anyone ever asked for more around here. But the database guys get asked for additional features, more ease of use, more automation and backups. That's how we got so much better at the tech.
We had the -- our captive -- very large-scale captive applications team that was putting demands on the tech and helping guide some of the new features that we developed. And as we -- so as we build the AI data platform, we also test the AI data platform on our own applications. And then what our customers get is something we've already used successfully rather than them being the guinea pigs very, very early on. So -- and then we constantly -- then it's continuous improvement. We constantly make it better because we improve it, we use it, we get insights, we improve it again, all of this other stuff.
So yes, the database is now inextricably linked to our AI strategy and inextricably linked to our application strategy. So all the pieces at Oracle now are fitting together. Why some people thought it was negative? People said Oracle is trying to do too much, right? Oracle really needs to focus either on tech and spin off the application business. I remember hearing that a long time ago or they should just do applications and not try to do because no one can do both. Well, so far, we're the only one doing both, but one is more than zero. So we think it's working out very well for us.
This is Patrick Colville from Scotiabank. Great to be here and really exciting time to be part of the Oracle story. I've got one for Clay, please, and one for Larry. So Clay, I think one of the big standout announcements this week from AI World was the AMD partnership. So my question is, I guess, what was the logic there for that AMD partnership? And then also, what does it mean for Oracle's NVIDIA partnership? Because that's been just tremendous for both firms. And then, Larry, if I may, love the long-term targets. One of the questions we get from investors is what happens beyond fiscal '30? And I guess the reason we get asked...
I missed the funny part. What was -- we couldn't hear it up here.
He said what's beyond fiscal '30? So if you could just make up like a '31 projection and '32, he would love it. It'd be...
Yes. Well, wait, we talk about 40 NAND. That's going to be awesome. I'm looking forward to that.
So do these AI labs, do the Tier 1 AI labs beyond the midterm start in-sourcing infrastructure? Or do they lean even more heavily on neoclouds and can Oracle accelerate share gains beyond the midterm?
Sure. Okay. Well, let's start with the question. So look, I'm also very excited about the AMD announcement. And you said, okay, so what does it mean for AMD? What does it mean for NVIDIA? What does it mean for us? Well, first, look, we have an amazing relationship with NVIDIA, right? NVIDIA, I think everyone would agree, did a really good job of getting this industry started. And we -- as a tech industry and as AI, we wouldn't be where we are today without the work that NVIDIA did both on the accelerator side and the networking side.
Now I'm glad that AMD is doing a good job because I think that we don't have a shortage of demand. We have a shortage of supply. And so the reality, I think the biggest thing that I find myself having conversations with people across all areas is they're using a scarcity mindset in a world that doesn't have that problem. So for me, it's like, oh, well, if AMD does well, does that mean that NVIDIA is not going to do well? Or I look at it like imagine there was infinite AI demand. What if we had options and choices that allowed us to scale even faster, right?
So our AMD partnership is amazing. We have -- the reason we're doing it with them is they've been a great partner across our CPU business, our networking business. They make a good product, and our customers want it. So it's just good for all of us. But then you asked kind of the second question, and I'll let you finish, Larry, you can make it think longer about 2031, 2032. The reality is that I think that there's this perspective that these AI companies are only coming to us because they're temporarily out of luck and they don't want to be doing that.
We do a really good job, and we do a good job that actually complements and supplements what these people are doing. If you go -- I would advise you to go talk to these people. When I -- you saw Peter -- go watch my keynote from yesterday with Peter on stage, he doesn't need more problems. He's got a lot of work to do to be able to give the infrastructure he needs to all of his researchers and all the demand of this technology.
Everyone wants help. So I don't think that there's a shift at 2031 or 2032, where suddenly people go, "Oh, there's no more AI infrastructure business for companies like Oracle." I think it's more interesting to figure out what -- like we just talked about how we have so much unexpected demand from this inferencing and reasoning and how that then goes out and makes everyone's lives better. Those are going to need computers, too. So no, I don't see like a step shift. The reason we give the forecast out is we can only see so far.
I think I'm going to let Mike talk about the future because I think the future -- to understand what the world is going to look like, you have to understand the automation in the different -- how the world is going to change. This is back, okay, Oracle using AI, how is that going to impact our financials using it internally. Well, let's look at our medical business, and then I'm going to let Mike go into detail about that. We need to work with the FDA to make it more efficient to a drug that works to get it approved more quickly.
We need to do a better job of delivering health care all over the world with modular -- working with companies building modular hospitals all over the world. And I know in some countries, health care is considered a human right. Other countries, health care is hardly existent. As our -- we have the chance to democratize a lot of these technologies, make governments more efficient. Sometimes governments are -- big corporations might not be very optimally efficient.
AI is going to help that. Governments will be more efficient. Poor countries will get food supplies, they will get energy supplies. They will get hospitals. And -- but they'll get this next generation of smart hospitals. Mike, maybe you can go into, again, that the world -- how we benefit as the world gets better.
Well, I think what does it look like beyond 2030? I think we're rapidly heading towards self-implementing self-learning, self-healing systems. You can certainly get your head around what that means for the GDP -- if you just look at, to Larry's point, something like health care and hospitals, and I'll expand on that in a second. What does it mean in terms of Oracle? It's hard to say. I can't imagine that there's anything negative to say about it because I like our chances of being able to deliver that full system ecosystem.
But in terms of -- let's just talk about clinical trials for a second and compare and contrast. COVID-19 was not that long ago. We were involved as the technology provider and for basically every COVID-19 vaccine and every therapeutic that was coming to market. And here's how it worked. we were shoulder to shoulder with our customers. And what that meant was we had people that would help gather the documentation at the pharma, and they literally rode buses, caravans and buses to Washington, D.C. with stacks of paper. The bus was half filled with people and half filled with paper. People had to read the paper on the way to make sure that it was complete. And that's how it worked in COVID-19. It's exactly how it worked from the most sophisticated pharma to the start-up biotech pharmas, all of whom were involved in trying to create vaccines and therapeutics.
Now fast forward to now, and we're working with regulators across the world, not just the United States to actually accept electronic documentation, accept electronic documentation so that we can take proof points, we can take efficacy points, safety points from these clinical trials, and we can get drugs to market far more faster. What that means is they're actually cheaper because there's a lot of time and money that's wasted in very long latency processes around documentation, around reading around all this stuff.
The next phase of it is, and we're not that far away from this, is that how do we have clinical trials that are reliant on just real-world data. Right now, the gold standard for clinical trials is double-blind, placebo-controlled trials. And there's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing. It's led us to some wonderful therapeutics and some wonderful vaccines along the way. But what if you could capture data in real time from everybody who's taking a particular pharmaceutical. Not only do you change how fast you get to market, but you actually have a clinical trial that never ends because right now, clinical trials are thought of as a project.
It's a project and it ends. And once the project ends, we actually stop tracking those people. We actually don't know what the counter-indications are of those people when they start to take other medications or they start to develop other preexisting conditions down the road. I think that, that's an example of not just changing the way an industry works, but actually benefiting humanity in a way that is really just -- it's hard to put a monetary value on what that means just yet. But I would tell you that we are very, very quickly approaching the spot where the technology is not the barrier to make any of that happen.
But there's one key. You have to have all the data in one spot. You have to have an AI data platform. to actually make that work. You've got to be able to get all that data very quickly. You've got to be able to collect it from multiple endpoints in real time, and I like our chances to do that. That's just one example, Larry, one industry. I can go on about all 22, but...
No, the fact that what you've done, I mean, the real -- it impacted us. The fact that hospitals suddenly have access, they're connected to the bank, the banks. And we've connected hospitals to banks. Now the banks can look at if you will, a bunch of receivables and see are those receivables likely to -- is the payer likely to pay, the insurance company likely to pay the hospital? And can I safely make a loan to the hospital. So again, these ecosystems as they get connected, and the liquidity you're providing to the medical business, maybe just a couple of minutes on that. And I love the example -- there's an Oracle example that did directly affect our quarter.
Absolutely.
No. It's worth mention. It's so interesting.
Can I give that? I give that.
Yes, you got it.
All right. So we had the banks here earlier. We had JPMorgan and Bank of America here earlier, and they went into quite a bit of detail about the ecosystem. So I think what's -- to your point, Larry, we're not just talking about automating the health care system. We're actually talking about creating the ecosystem that didn't exist before. That ecosystem is the automated real-time autonomous connection between the banks and the providers. We had -- as we mentioned, lots of very big hospital systems have cash flow problems, not necessarily a long-term receivables problem, but a point-in-time problem, which is they don't have the cash to pay certain bills, including sometimes our bills at any given point, money that they owe us.
So we actually connected one of these banks that was up here today with the hospital system. And based upon the real-time debt -- based upon the real-time access to the receivables position, the quality of the payers, all the things I talked about earlier, how many readmissions we have for hip infection and all that stuff, based upon all that data, which they never had access to, they actually created a municipal bond offering for that particular hospital. And actually, we're able to, for the first time, rate it -- actually rate it.
So one of the hard problems that banks have is exactly rate the debt here because it's a little bit of a crystal ball to say, what's the timing? What's the repayment factor and what's the risk profile associated? That customer in the quarter was able to pay a bill that they owed to us. Now fortunately, what's more important, they were able to pay the doctors and nurses and everybody else that was in there. But as a side effect, they were actually able to pay us a bill that was, shall we say, rather late. So these type of ecosystems benefit everybody and the bank actually got a customer that they didn't have before. So that's the kind of situation that works out in terms of these automated data platforms.
Yes. I mean the fact -- the liquidity that information is able to provide that the banks can use AI to consume that to come up with bond ratings to decide to make -- take -- what the interest rate should be on the receivable, figuring all of that out. With all the information, you know the receivables safer, you can charge a lower interest rate because it's more likely to be paid. I showed you a picture of greenhouses for the food business, but we got really interesting modular hospitals that, again, we're not doing these, but partners are doing them.
And the modular -- people of the modular hospitals are coming to us and saying, we'd like to incorporate all of the Oracle technology into these modular hospitals, which we will be building all over the world. And people all over the world, it's a huge -- health care is a huge market. A lot of people can't afford it right now. As the world gets wealthier, more people will get good health care. The global economy is going to get much bigger, help us make our numbers.
Siti Panigrahi from Mizuho. Larry, I want to ask you about enterprise application software. How is that going to evolve in this AI world? Means do you expect this to be rewritten like we see in prior architectural safe like client server, 3-tier cloud applications were rewritten. Do you think in this agenting world, enterprise applications have to be rewritten again? If so, how Oracle is positioned?
Yes. We're constantly rewriting our applications. Steve, I remember I get this every 3 months, we come up with a new version of our applications, which is just unbelievable. If you think about what it used to be like and SAP customers would upgrade every 20 years even if they didn't need to. Well, actually, that sometimes they wouldn't upgrade in 20 years. They just -- 30 is fine because it's -- you know what some of those SAP implementations in excess of $1 billion to put in SAP. You don't want to do that every 3 months. So we give we're continuously rewriting our applications. Michael?
We have 600 AI agents live right now across our portfolio of applications, and we have 2,400 customers that are already consuming those AI agents. That's across the industry applications and the Fusion applications. As I mentioned earlier, in banking alone, within the next year, we'll have an additional 126 agents live, just in banking, not counting everything else that we do. And by the way, if history is any teacher for us -- in the AI world, history is not that long ago, Steve, right here on this stage last year predicted that we would create 100 new Fusion applications over the last 12 months, we actually created 400 and had 400 go live. So that's the pace and scale that we're moving.
Will applications become a collection of AI agents? Yes, and that's exactly what we're doing. That's exactly what we're doing. And certainly, again, at the expense of repeating myself, much easier to do when you've got the underlying infrastructure and the AI data platform on top of it, and we are the custodian of the world's most valuable data. So our agents are incredibly rich, and they're very easy to adopt. They're just part of what we do in our quarterly release. There's not a special AI agent release vehicle and a special implementation plan. You just take it out of the box and it works.
Larry, you've historically seen value in software companies when the market has been skeptical and you've never been afraid to price software for the value it delivers. Now we're in a time when the market is questioning the terminal value of application software and is worried about the seat-based model. Do you think AI will shift value away from the application layer to other layers? And how do you think software should be priced?
Interesting question. Do I think the seat-based model works? Yes. I mean I think it's a combination. There really are 2 models for pricing and applications right now. There's kind of CPU consumption. I mean how much -- and then there's -- so there's the -- on the supply side, how much CPU did you use? And then maybe storage, but primarily CPU, how much CPU, GPU did you use on the supply side? And then on the consumption side, how many different people used it are the 2 models. And I think we'll continue oscillating between those 2 models. I think for certain kinds of AI, very complex reasoning, I think we're going to go by the supply side model, you're going to pay for GPU usage.
For some of the more agentic things, automatically fill out my expense reports for me, something as mundane in that is that. Give me a couple of choices for a doctor's appointment is like in the NHS in the U.K. Give me -- show me the soonest appointment I can get and show me with my preferred doctor, how soon I can see my friend out to decide between those or you figure out and decide between those and schedule it for me. That might be down to -- still be down to how many individuals are using it versus what the costs are of actually supplying the service.
And I think, again, we'll be -- we've been constantly adjusting that. This is nothing new. We've been adjusting between these 2 models for many, many years. What I don't think makes sense, by the way, is people saying, well, here's my application, and here's the really cool AI stuff you buy separately. I wouldn't even know how to build an application like that. If you don't buy the AI stuff, your application won't work at all. I mean it is your application.
So I don't understand the separate charge stuff where -- because the AI is going to be so dominant. I don't -- I think that's a transitory model. That model will disappear from most of the application companies who are using it right now during the introduction of AI. We're more in the middle of this converting our applications to AI, where they don't work without the AI parts.
It's John DiFucci from Guggenheim. And Larry, thanks for the answer. That was actually my question. The last part, too, I really appreciate. But -- another question I had was AI changes everything. In Oracle, some of the stuff you showed us today is changing the world of health care and maybe agriculture. I mean these are things that Oracle has always run a business for profit. But I see something more here like to me anyways, having covered Oracle for 26 years, it's Oracle sort of doing good for the world, not that you haven't before, technology itself does it.
But I guess going back to running a business for profit because there's a lot to do with Cerner. You guys -- you acknowledge you have to rewrite everything and you're doing that. But when should we expect something like Cerner, which is huge, to get to the profit margins we'd expect for a software company, if ever? And how should we think about that?
Well, I'll give you a very high-level answer because I work at a very high level space. He's the guy who builds those applications. I'll let him go into the detail. But I think we will have largely finished the rewrite of all of Cerner next year, everything will be new. And we will have a comprehensive -- and it's not just Cerner that we rewrote. We're writing agents for payers. We're writing agents for clinical trials and all of these other things.
So it's going to be much bigger than Cerner ever was. Cerner automated hospitals and clinics. This is automating the entire health care ecosystem down to individual patients and individual doctors, individual nurses. The code will be in place next year. And I really don't understand how a small company can compete with what we're doing in health care. But Mike...
So in terms of doing good for the world, look, you're absolutely right. I mean, I'll tell you that there's nothing more inspiring and there's nothing that will tug at your hard strings more than walking around a VA hospital and looking and working with people, which we do every day, who are caring for those who serve our country in the United States. And that's a mission for us that will continue to be a mission and where we will deliver for all of those people and actually all hospitals worldwide.
So you're absolutely right. There is something here that's a mission, and we've got people rallied around that mission. In terms of thinking about how the business evolves profitably, I don't think we should stop and just think about Cerner. I think we should think about the entire ecosystem of what we built. We had customers 2 of Epic, our primary competitor in the EHR market. Two of their largest customers in the world, the CEOs were on stage with Seema just 3 weeks ago at our Orlando conference, and they were talking about the AI data platform. We're not just talking about the EHR. We're talking about all of it. And it's going to take all of it to fix the -- at least the American health care system. The American health care system, there's no more money to go into the American system.
As we said earlier, we actually have -- to be successful, we have to take money out of the American health care system, but I think we can make more money doing that because the only way to take money out of the American health care system is to be able to automate the entire process. Just the EHR is not enough. It's got to be supply chain. It's got to be HR. It's got to be finance. It's got to be the banking relationship. It's all of that. And when you look at our Fusion business, health care is actually one of our most popular businesses for HCM and ERP applications.
In fact, we're doing wonderfully well in the health care business with our Fusion business. When you look outside the United States, we are the largest provider and our growth profiles are excellent outside the United States in just a pure EHR market before you even count all the rest of it. We just won a deal yesterday in the Middle East that was signed here, displaced SAP with Fusion, with our Oracle Health EHR, with OCI for all their bespoke workloads. People are buying all of it. So we no longer think about the Cerner margin, so to speak. In the first couple of years of acquisition, obviously, we keep those things separate. But we don't think about it as Cerner anymore. We think about it as the Oracle Health ecosystem. And when you put that all together, we're actually already operating at a clip, which is not diluting the company, not dilutive to the company margin.
And I think to the point that Larry made, I just don't see how the competition is going to keep up with what we're doing because I go all the way back to sort of first principles with -- and this is what I said to some analysts at our health conference -- how many fuel cell power plants is Epic building? That's the first question I asked, right? How many large language models are -- generative AI models are positioned on their cloud stack? Second question I asked. Then I stopped and I said, you get the point, right? Unless you're going to do all of it, you're actually not going to do that.
And I think the health care system in the United States is tiring of point solutions. They're tiring a very large system integrator. They don't have the money, just don't have the money. The only answer is complete system automation. And for those reasons, I think we are going to be just fine, if not wonderful in health care. And to your most important point, going to do well for the world in the process.
Let me just add one thing that I've said several times before, that is what is our model for all of this? My model, at least in my head, it's Musk's law. I don't think Elon ever created Musk's law. I mean he just -- he didn't write it down, but he just did it. And if you look at Tesla, how did you -- he built -- had to build an electric car ecosystem. He couldn't -- the problem was not building an electric car. I mean if you build an electric car, you've got to be able to recharge that car in Sweden and Norway and Vietnam and all these other places. How do you build a global charging system? How do you do that? How do you build -- building electric car is really easy. Rivian can do it. A lot of people can do it. I can build an electric car in my basement. But how do you build 10 million of them, 20 million of them a year. How do you build those factories?
The largest building ever built in human history was in Austin, Texas, it's the Tesla factory filled with robot. You got to build robots. The robots he's building the Optimus robots, the first inspiration, the first use of those Optimus robots are in Tesla factories. He had to create the back of the model Y is one piece of steel. It was -- it's lighter. So he had to create all new stamping machines for doing this, different machines, different factory automation, supply chain, battery technology, battery science had to do the whole ecosystem for an electric car to change transportation but he did it, and it works pretty well. Those cars are rather inexpensive considering they have these incredible computers in them and drive them and he had to solve one of the hardest AI problems of all time, which is self-driving and real-time AI.
So you take what he did at Tesla, and that's how at least we look at the ecosystem for health care. It's not simply the hospital or a clinic. It's the entire the patients, how do patients make appointments? How do payers decide to authorize that hip replacement or not? What's the process they go through. How does a regulator approve a new drug? How does a pharma design a new drug? That's the entire -- the health's ecosystem, by the way, a good deal more complicated than and larger and a bigger opportunity than the electric car market, even if the electric cars are fancy electric cars and fully robotic.
So the way we're approaching these problems, the way Mike's teams are approaching these problems is to look at automating the entire ecosystem. Our HR teams changed when we bought Cerner because we now had to train doctors, train nurses, schedule people differently. It was partially -- they were partially gig economy, partially hospital employees, supply chain, inventory, all the shipping, keeping track of inventory in hospitals unbelievably complicated. I'm going to go into all of the details, but we have to design RFID tags and RFI readers. There's security in hospital systems. It's doing the entire ecosystem. If you do the entire ecosystem, you get a much better result, and it's a much, much bigger opportunity.
I just wanted to say congrats to Mike and Clay. Obviously, you guys are going to be great partners with Larry, but it's the only time I'll say this, but I kind of miss Safra a little bit.
She's here.
Larry, Mike Clay, unless you want to keep going, this will be the last question. But if you want to keep going, they'll stay here all day with you. So your call.
It's up to these guys. I've got nothing to do. I'm retired. Actually not true. It's really not just Safra was just shaking your hand. No, no, no. No, no. Okay. So you get to retire, I don't. Okay. Something is very wrong with that. That doesn't mean -- I know you're not retired. But you're sitting there and somehow I'm still hitting here. Okay. All right. I'll figure it out in time. I think you guys want to keep going a little bit up to you guys.
Awesome. I'm over here, Larry. Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank to your left. I actually have 2 questions. Larry, my first one, I've been coming here for many years. And every year, I look forward to seeing you and the team every year, I get a year older, and you seem to stay the same age.
If it were only true.
My first question, if you have 1 or 2 tips for how we all stay young, I would love to hear it. My second question for you and for Clay.
I'll send you the research papers.
Okay. As we think about Stargate, can you talk about how strategic AI is to governments around the world and how Oracle is working with them hand-in-hand to make it all a reality?
Yes. Well, I mean, I think if you imagine for a minute that you were a government, and let's imagine that what we've all been saying is at least mostly true, you would want to make sure that you have that technology available inside your country into your citizens. Otherwise, I think in the same way that people have -- for the past few hundred years, well, how do I manage my food supply? How do I manage my energy generation? How do I make sure I have the right telecommunications, right? AI is technology that we think is even more valuable than that. You need to have access to it. And so we're in constant conversations with different governments in multiple different areas.
I think one aspect of it is around how do you make sure that your citizens are getting access to the AI, right? And that's about bringing access to those models to those different geographies. There's the conversation about, well, how do we get things like sovereign AI. Part of the way in which we solve that, if you think when I was talking about our distributed cloud situation, we have a set of technologies that enable us to actually deploy regions globally to enable them for individual customers, but also for local sovereign operators.
So as an example, the one I used earlier about [indiscernible], they not only have a sovereign alloy that they're using to serve the needs of the UAE government, they also have access to the latest and greatest GPUs inside that environment. So I think it's critically important for all of these governments to have that technology, not just from an infrastructure perspective, but then also making sure that -- because if you don't have the infrastructure, how can you suddenly then deploy the latest and greatest EHR on top that makes use of all that AI.
And as Larry said, we don't have a non-AI version anymore. Now specifically to the question about Stargate, I think lots and lots of countries are very interested in how do we get that sovereign AI. And we have good relationship with OpenAI as kind of, I think, due to our flexibility and our speed of being that partner of choice to go out and then deploy local sovereign AI infrastructure facilities for them. And so there was UAE Stargate. There's things that we're working on right now in Africa. I just had a conversation with a customer yesterday out of Latin America that's very interested in the same thing.
And part of what I think makes us a great partner in those sovereign AI conversations is that we can scale up and we can scale down. Not all countries need a 500-megawatt OpenAI deployment. Some of them might be very well served by 5 megawatts. Well, we can do that, and we can do it quickly. And our relationship with the top leading model providers actually works to our advantage because then we can go deploy the infrastructure and then suddenly the AI is available, both in terms of sovereignty as well as in local secure access. So I think Oracle is extremely well poised across all the different layers of the stack for sovereign AI and enabling all the world's citizens to get access to that technology in a secure and controlled way.
Alek Zukin with Wolfe Research. Thank you for an amazing day, truly unbelievable numbers. I have maybe just a quick 3-part question, which is...
Only 3-part? A quick..
Is there a prequel?
I have a really fast 9-part question. Sorry, I am enjoying myself up here.
As we look at the pacing of reasoning versus training, when does that inflection point happen? Like in 2030, what does that workload ratio look like? Because it's important for margins. Interesting. You talk about demand and supply. How do we think about the pacing of CapEx to facilitate that? And then any back story on how you're able to kind of over jump or jump over some of these other hyperscalers to win and become the preferred vendor for some of the model companies as they scale beyond what we all thought was possible in a given time scale.
Those questions have almost nothing to do with these. I feel like -- would you like a scoop of ice cream on the salad with some bread. I've already forgot. Did you remember the first part of the question? I'll start with the back -- the last part, why are people picking us? At least I remember that part of the question, I can answer it quickly. Look, the reason that customers are picking us is for the reasons that we say customers are picking us and for the same reasons that those customers also stand up and tell people like you why they're picking us.
And like I said, Peter from OpenAI was on stage yesterday explaining exactly why they pick us. It's because we are extremely fast at getting things done. Everyone has excess needs. If you can be somebody that has an answer that says, okay, you need capacity. If you go 2 years, 2 years, 2 years, 8 months, okay. I like 8 months better than 2 years. Okay. If you have unique requirements where you show up and you're like, "Hey, I have custom requirements around some of my networking or the way in which I want to power cap this infrastructure, I want to codesign it with you or perhaps I want to deploy it in a location that might have lower cost, okay, no, no, no, yes.
Okay? So if someone is saying yes to the things that you need and they're delivering very, very rapidly, and they're extremely high performance and very cost efficient, that's why people are picking us. And that's why it's not just one customer, it's all of the customers, both very, very large customers and small customers, right? When I showed the details of that 700-plus AI infrastructure customers, that's why they're all choosing OCI. Now not 100% of the market, like we do definitely have competition.
But as we continue to execute and as I think Peter said yesterday, this community is very small. As this information gets out there more and more, all of those people are coming to us with more and more capacity bands. Now you're going to repeat the other 2 sections because I already forgot. Larry, do you want to talk about training versus reasoning and how you think it changes?
Well, everyone is going to do reasoning and very few people are going to do training. So it will definitely cross over. I think I wish -- I think it's a great -- and actually, it's quite a fabulous question because I don't think we have enough data points yet to be able to figure out when it's going to cross over. I think what's going to help is the AI -- believe it or not, I think it has a lot to do with how good our data platform is. If our AI data platform is as good as we think it is, it's going to help people get to inferencing/applied AI/reasoning, all the same thing, using the models as opposed to training the models, which is, again, everybody.
So we have to make it easy for everybody to do on their own private data. 5 years from now, will we still be spending more money on training than on reasoning? I don't know. Anyone -- Clay, do you want to take a shot at that?
Well, I'm going to have a complicated answer, and then Mike is going to have a useful answer. I think people also -- I think it's an interesting question. I think it's also a question that's unanswerable. So look, if you think about what training does, we take together all of the information that humans are willing to share and then we train something on it. Eventually, you run out of data, okay? Well, how does data get created? Well, people use reasoning to create data and they write it down. If you actually look at where AI models are going, much of the data that they're going to be training on is actually data that they're doing their own reasoning on.
So I think this question, if you actually look at what I think in 5 years, what most training of AI models looks like, it looks like AI models thinking -- and then AI models using the results of that and going, oh, is this better or not? If you look at how RLHF, right, reinforcement learning with human feedback works today in these AI models, what's happening is you train a model and then you give the results out to human beings who score it and then you feed that back into the training data. Guess what happens as the models get really smart. You don't pay a bunch of people to score the outputs. You have models score the output.
So I think that this -- that's kind of what I think Peter yesterday was trying to say was like, hey, you think of these as different things. They are the same thing. And in the same way that we don't think of our brain is like, well, are we using our reasoning function right now? Are we learning? You're constantly reasoning. And as you're reasoning, you're also learning. It's going to be this iterative cycle.
Let me reframe the question. So I think it's really simple -- in a way much -- forgive me, I think simpler to understand. When will AI -- the people creating AI models be taking in more money than they're spending?
Well, I think that actually depends less on how much money they're taking in because that's growing very, very rapidly. I think it's when do we reach diminishing returns on spending extra money, how it makes it more valuable. And if I had the answer to that, we would do a different company.
Yes, even the simpler version of the question is still hard -- it's the same question and still hard to answer, still hard to answer. I think the problem I have, and I agree with everything Clay said, yes, it gets very blurry because every time you ask AI a question, it's learning something. It's training itself. So what is training? What is inferencing/reasoning? How fast does -- let's just pick one example, OpenAI or Grok, how long are they in hypergrowth mode where they're spending money faster than their revenue because that's very common in the early -- obviously, railroads obviously spend a lot of money.
When does it cross over? When do passenger tickets exceed laying of track? I don't think we have quite enough data yet on inferencing and the speed of inferencing growth. Though one of the most interesting calls we ever got was, hey, do you guys have any capacity? Where? Anywhere? Well, how much are you looking for? All of it. You want to buy all the capacity we're not using everywhere in the world? Yes.
Okay. I've never heard that one before, but I haven't heard a lot of this stuff before. This is very strange. I remember I called Safra, but someone just called and said, felt like what the hell is going on. I mean it's not like I was trying to sell anything. They called us. I just wanted to buy everything we had. So I don't think we have quite enough data. I think we'll understand it a lot better about -- believe it or not a year from now. I mean it sounds funny, but I think Mike?
It's really a philosophical multi-parter. It's a great question. How does synthetic data feed into this? Is it really retraining? Or is that inferencing? And then the next frontier or 2 is how does private data fit into all this? And do we take some of that scale and create very rapid small language models, too for enterprises. I think that's going to continue to evolve over the next, I would say, 2 years, but probably not even at the rate we're moving. We're going to have clarity on that. But I think either way, we're going to be in a good position to serve those markets.
I'm going to say this is the last question for me. You guys keep going. That's fine.
If he leaves, I'm leaving. Mike, okay. We work together as a group, okay? You can't just walk off and leave me and Mike out here.
Watch me.
All right. And then Matt is getting us off the hook as well. So thank you all very much.
Are we done?
You are done.
All right. Thank you.
Please welcome to the stage, Ken Bond.
All right. Okay. Thank you all very much. That concludes the show. Thank you very much for coming out. Really appreciate you taking the time out. Look forward to it. If you have any questions, just follow up with us. Take care. Safe travels home. By-bye.
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Oracle — Shareholder/Analyst Call - Oracle Corporation
Oracle — Shareholder/Analyst Call - Oracle Corporation
🎯 Kernbotschaft
- Kurzform: Oracle positioniert sich als Full‑Stack‑AI‑Anbieter: OCI (Oracle Cloud Infrastructure), das neue Oracle AI Database / AI Data Platform und agentenbasierte Anwendungen sollen zusammen schnelles Wachstum treiben.
- Treiber: Starke Vertragsnachfrage (RPO), große GPU‑Deals, Multi‑Cloud‑Bereitstellung und Branchen‑Apps (Health, Banking, Retail) als Hebel für Cross‑Sell.
🚀 Strategische Highlights
- OCI‑Segmente: Vier Wachstumsfelder — Enterprise, Distributed Cloud (Dedicated Regions/Alloys), Cloud‑Native ISVs und AI‑Infrastructure — alle zeigen beschleunigte Umsätze.
- AI‑Datenplattform: Oracle macht private Daten AI‑nutzbar (RAG, Vektoren, DNA‑Datentypen) und bietet Modellauswahl (z. B. ChatGPT, Gemini) nahe an den Daten.
- Agentisierte Applikationen: Fusion/Industry Apps werden zu Sammlungen von AI‑Agenten (600+ intern), EHR (Electronic Health Record) ist AI‑zentriert und regulatorisch zugelassen.
🆕 Neue Informationen
- Finanzziel: Aktualisierte Langfrist‑Projektion: Ziel von $225 Mrd. Umsatz und $21 EPS bis Fiskaljahr 2030; RPO (Remaining Performance Obligations) bereits über $500 Mrd.
- Supply‑Kontext: Management betont: Nachfrage ist riesig, aktuell vor allem angebots‑/CapEx‑limitiert (GPU/Datacenter‑Kapazität).
- Partner & HW: Ausbau der HW‑Optionen (z. B. AMD neben NVIDIA) und Multi‑Cloud‑Verfügbarkeit des AI‑Stacks als Differenzierer.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Margenprofil: Nachfrage nach Details zu Illustrativ‑Beispielen (z. B. 1 GW GPU‑Deal) und ob die genannten 30–40% Margen für Großkunden gelten — Management sagte: die Bandbreite ist repräsentativ, hängt stark vom Service‑Mix und Ramp‑Kosten ab.
- CapEx & Timing: Kritische Nachfragen zur Tempo‑Anpassung von Rechenzentren und wie schnell Oracle Supply‑Constrains auflösen kann; Antwort: Lieferketten‑ und Standortarbeit laufen, Finanzierung wird skaliert.
- Architektur‑mix: Wie sich Training vs. Inference/Fine‑tuning entwickelt und welche Workload‑Balance Margen beeinflusst — Management sieht die Prozesse zunehmend verschmelzen (RAG, kontinuierliches Training/inference).
⚡ Bottom Line
- Für Anleger: Deutlich erhöhte Wachstumsziele und ein enormer RPO‑Backlog signalisieren großes Upside‑Potenzial, getrieben von AI‑Infrastruktur, AI‑Datenbank und agentischen Anwendungen. Kurzfristig bleiben Execution‑Risiken (CapEx, Lieferzeiten, Mix‑Margen) zentrale Beobachtungspunkte.
Oracle — Special Call - Oracle Corporation
1. Management Discussion
Good morning. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Oracle's AI Changes Everything Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]
At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ken Bond, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Audra. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on short notice. On the call today, our Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; Executive Vice Chairman, Safra Catz; Chief Executive Officer, Clay Magouyrk; and Chief Executive Officer, Mike Sicilia. As a reminder, today's discussion may include forward-looking statements or other information that might be considered forward-looking.
As a reminder to you all, forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements.
Before we take questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.
Hello, everyone. We wanted to share our thoughts about this morning's news. Our tagline is AI Changes Everything. And we've taken that to heart ourselves. The company is being recognized as an innovator and leader in AI, and our momentum has been nothing less than spectacular, and it's only the beginning.
With this success in mind, Larry and I thought timing was perfect to recognize and promote several executives who have not only been instrumental in helping pivot the company but who will be critical to leading us as we move forward. Larry will continue to lead Oracle and bring the vision and business acumen that has made us so successful for nearly 50 years. That part is not changing. We're promoting Clay and Mike to the position of CEO. You'll hear more from these guys today each -- of each has been instrumental in various parts of the company, and they are ready for more responsibility.
In addition, Doug Kehring will be assuming the duties of Principal Financial Officer. Doug has worked with me at Oracle for 25 years and is very familiar with all aspects of our business. And Mark Hura is being promoted to President as he has been the customer-focused engine behind much of our accelerating revenue, including the unprecedented growth of OCI.
As for myself, I'll be Executive Vice Chairman and continue to work with the team and with our customers. These are incredibly exciting times and personally, I am thrilled. I'll see many of you at AI world in a few weeks. And with that, let me hand off to Larry.
Thank you, Safra. Well, Safra and I have been running Oracle together for just about 26 years. It's been a long, productive enjoyable gratifying part of my life. And I think we've done a pretty good job creating an important technologies and database applications and now our Gen2 cloud.
Along the way, the team here at Oracle created hundreds of billions of dollars of value for our shareholders. But now Oracle is entering the AI era.
I've never seen an opportunity on this scale before. The immense impact of AI across our economy is hard to grasp. The colossal size of the AI endeavor and the size of the responsibility that goes with it, it's difficult to imagine. But Oracle's job is not to imagine gigawatt scale data centers.
Oracle's job is to build them. Clay and Mike are proven successful leaders prepared and experienced in pursuing AI opportunities. I'm looking forward to working with Clay, Mike and Safra, over the coming years to develop AI technology and enable our customers to use large language models with their private data.
By doing that, Oracle will make it easy for all of our customers to use AI to solve their most important problems. Join us at AI World next month and watch us demonstrate Oracle's revolutionary new technology that enables large language models to securely access private corporate data on to you, Clay.
Thank you, Larry. I've spent the past decade at Oracle, building Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. This has been the opportunity of my lifetime, and none of that was possible without the tireless support and guidance of Safra. Oracle Cloud Infrastructure has entered a phase of hyper growth powered by AI and the rapid adoption of our cloud by Oracle's diverse set of enterprise customers. Our infrastructure is so flexible that we can provide our entire cloud, 100% of our cloud services into individual customer data centers.
We are the only cloud provider that can embed our cloud into our partners' clouds, providing the full suite of our data platform to all cloud customers everywhere. And we are also building the largest AI clusters to meet the ever-expanding demands for AI training and inferencing.
Our new Gen AI data platform brings together the best of Oracle's database, analytics and AI technology to do what we've always done for customers, help them make sense of their most valuable data. Working with Mike to power the most complete suite of horizontal and industry applications has been great fun so far, and I'm excited for what comes next. Over to you, Mike.
Thank you, Clay. For 68 quarters, I have had the privilege of watching Safra lead with a steady hand unmatched clarity and exceptional financial stewardship. I am deeply grateful for all that she has done for our customers, our shareholders and our employees.
Oracle has evolved from a technology provider to a strategic partner because of the depth and breadth of our offerings. These technologies enable entirely new business models and open entirely new competitive opportunities. I've been engaged with our customers across a wide range of industries, from banking to health care, to communications and many more.
Our customers are increasingly interested in and seeing value in all of our offerings, from industry applications, to Fusion, to OCI, to database and to our AI data platform. As we help businesses transform, this also creates much bigger deals that are multiple times larger than what we experienced in the past. We're off to a strong start in Q2, and I look forward to working with Clay to build upon our momentum. Back to you, Ken.
Thanks, Mike. Audra, could you please poll the audience for questions?
We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] we'll go first to John DiFucci at Guggenheim Securities.
2. Question Answer
Well, it's been a busy month for the Oracle team. But I realized the announcements this months are the culmination of years or even decades of both technology and human development. I can't help, though, right now to open up with some comments about Safra, who I've known and admired for decades, and it's evident by these four promotions today, what you've meant to Oracle and to shareholders.
We know that Larry has been deeply involved as CTO in the development of OCI and applications, all the technology of Oracle. I guess my question is, while you've put your daily duties at Oracle in more than capable hands, as Executive Vice Chairman, should we assume that you'll still be somewhat involved in Oracle operations perhaps more so than if your new title didn't have the word executive before it? And just -- and finally, congrats to Clay, Mike, Mark and Doug, all of whom, I've either known well or have heard to be great leaders in your areas.
John, thank you. Of course, I mean Oracle Red runs through my blood. And I'll be working with all the teams. In fact, I mean, the process right now of talking with customers and also introducing them to Clay and Mike if they don't know them already. And of course, I'll continue to work with Doug and the Board and, of course, Larry.
And so I'm still here, and I'm an employee and I'm really looking forward to this stage. But it is absolutely time. You want to make a transition like this when things are great. And when I'm handing it to two of the guys actually a whole team that have brought Oracle here, this is really -- this is ideal. So thank you, and thanks, John.
We'll move next to Brad Zelnick at Deutsche Bank.
Congrats everyone in their new roles. Safra, it's been a pleasure working with you all these years. And I know you'll still be around, but you're a leader among leaders and your impact will endure not only for Oracle, but the entire industry. And I'm a little sad because while I know you're -- we're left in very capable hands, no one quite does it the way you do. And for that, I say thank you.
To my question, I actually have two questions. Safra, we've all known this day would eventually come but the timing is always a surprise, and you've already spoken to this a bit, but just why now, why is today the right day? And my follow-up for you, Safra, and for the team, as we think about the new co-CEO structure, I've always assumed Oracle's next CEO would be product focused.
And when I think back to the vertical app strategy, which I remember back to Retek, even Primavera, where Mike came from, I always appreciated how vertical apps were so important for being integral to your customers' most mission-critical business processes.
But fast forward to today, as we think about Mike and Clay's roles coming together, can you talk about the magic of how these worlds drive even greater customer commitment from vertical and horizontal apps, all the way down to the infrastructure layer?
Okay. I'm not going to dominate this call other than to say it really is the perfect time, and they are the ideal partners because Mike is responsible for a lot of the software stack and Clay is the -- is cloud infrastructure, and this is really a match made in heaven to have two technical executives work together to meet the needs of our customers. And with that, I'm going to hand off to Larry to complete the answer.
Well, okay, I'm going to hand it off to Clay and Mike to complete the answer.
It's Mike. I'll be happy to share some thoughts. Thanks for the question Brad. I think Larry mentioned on the last earnings call, the inferencing market and how important it is and how big it is to Oracle. And if you think about a lot of the mission-critical data that's going to be very important to inferencing, not part of the public Internet, not been foundational in trading large language models.
We at Oracle are the custodian and the partner to our customers for that mission-critical data, be it back office data, be it health care EHR data, be it retail merchandising data. You know the story, Brad, you've heard it many times. And I think that puts us in a very unique position in that market.
It also puts us in a very unique position to deliver end-to-end industry cloud suites. And we're not just thinking about this from a product standpoint, but also with how we engage with our customers. And that's one of the reasons you heard about Mark being promoted. We're streamlining our go-to-market as well to make sure that we're positioning these end-to-end suites, which are unmatched in the industry.
There's no other company in the world that has the OCI business, the horizontal applications business, the industries business, the analytics on top of it, the inferencing business, retrieval augmented generation, all in one package. And we need to make sure that when we're talking with our customers, we're engaged at the highest level. So we've made changes not just at our product level, but also with how we engage with our customers. The other thing I think is becoming apparent to us is that it's not just about selling and delivering this to enterprises.
It's actually about opening up new ecosystems. And I'll give you a quick example. I mentioned in my opening remarks, the banking industry and the health care industry. And one question might be, well, what do they have to do with one another? Well, banks loan a lot of money, as you know, to health care organizations, but they do so with very poor telemetry into the receivables in an industry, at least in the United States, that is notoriously plagued by cash flow problems. If you look at the publicly reported earnings reports of major health care institutions, they talk about days of cash on hand, not weeks, not months, not years.
And this has caused a rather, shall we say, not ideal relationship for their liquidity and lending partners. When we talk about an ecosystem, an AI-based ecosystem, banks can have a view into the health care organization's leading indicators, not just for payment, not just for quantitative but qualitative issues as well.
So if you have your hip replaced and you're then readmitted to the emergency room, 30 days or 60 days offer and you're [indiscernible] and you're a Medicare patient and value-based reimbursements, that changes the amount of the reimbursable. So if you think about that at scale over large health care institutions, think about the relationship -- changing relationships between banks and health care organizations.
Yes, we're a major supplier to both verticals with end-to-end cloud solutions, but actually connecting them I think, is unique to the Oracle AI advantage. It's unique to the amount of operational data, the amount of back-office data. And of course, all of the infrastructure that Clay has built makes it possible. And with that, Clay, I'll turn it over to you for additional comments.
Yes. So Brad, in addition to, I think, what you just heard Mike talk about the synergies between the different applications, the same is true between our infrastructure and the applications themselves. The fact that we can deploy Oracle Cloud infrastructure all over the world, the fact that we have access to the latest and greatest AI models, whether it be Grok or whether it be Gemini, whether it be Cohere or other partnerships, models like Llama, being able to offer those through our Gen AI service and then be able to take advantage of that inside the applications themselves. It's -- then, of course, the fact that we have the Oracle database and the world's best database services that run on top of that compute and storage and networking infrastructure.
And then you get to layer the applications on top. It really is more -- the whole is more than the sum of the parts. And I think that's true even within our infrastructure, the fact that our database services can then provide more and more value to the applications and then the fact that the applications themselves become more valuable when you can take advantage of multiples of those together. That really is the true strength of Oracle. We are the only company that can do both infrastructure and applications.
And we'll take our final question today from Mark Moerdler at Bernstein Research.
Clay, Mike, that was great answer. So thank you for sharing that color. Obviously, we can get a lot more as we move forward in the year. I want to add to what my peers have just said. Safra, I really want to congratulate you on how much you've accomplished and such a pleasure it's been working with you and hopefully, continuing to. It's truly amazing how much you've changed the business from on-premise to cloud truly at hyperspeed. So congrats.
I also want to obviously congratulate Clay and Mike. I don't think there are two other people so well positioned to take on this responsibility.
So my question is, there's a lot of news flow and a lot of rumbling about additional large deals. And from a sense from the earnings calls, there's a lot more going on. Is there any color you can give on how to think about the upside in the future here?
This is Clay. Yes, here's what I would say. We see very strong demand across the entire base. We're not here to talk about any specific deal. But when you think about the way in which the AI infrastructure space is growing. There are many, many customers, some very, very large, some only large.
And OCI is quickly becoming a place that those customers turn to for both their training and inferencing needs. And so yes, we see continued demand from existing customers and new customers. And we spend a lot of our time working to say yes to those customers and give them the infrastructure they need as quickly as possible.
One color -- I'll add just add -- On the last earnings call, we mentioned that we expected more large deals, and we still feel that way. And certainly, look forward to expanding on that at the Financial Analyst Day as we can at AI World in just a few weeks.
Thank you Mike. A replay of this call will be made available on the Investor Relations website. Should you have any questions, please contact Investor Relations. And with that, let me turn the call back to Audra for closing.
Thank you. And this concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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Oracle — Special Call - Oracle Corporation
Oracle — Special Call - Oracle Corporation
📣 Kernbotschaft
- Kernaussage: Oracle stellt sich als führender AI‑Partner dar: "AI Changes Everything" ist operativ umgesetzt durch Führungswechsel und verstärkte Investitionen in AI‑Infrastruktur und Datenplattformen.
- Führung: Safra Catz wird Executive Vice Chairman, Larry Ellison bleibt CTO; Clay Magouyrk und Mike Sicilia sind Co‑CEOs, Mark Hura President, Doug Kehring Principal Financial Officer.
🎯 Strategische Highlights
- Plattform-Strategie: Oracle verbindet Infrastruktur, Datenbank, Analytics und Anwendungen zu einer integrierten Gen‑AI‑Datenplattform, die LLMs (large language models) sicher mit privaten Unternehmensdaten verknüpfen soll.
- OCI‑Position: OCI (Oracle Cloud Infrastructure) wird als Kern für Training und Inferenz großer AI‑Cluster dargestellt; Oracle betont die Fähigkeit, Cloud‑Services in Kundendatacenter und Partner‑Clouds einzubetten.
- GTM‑Anpassung: Vertrieb und Marktansatz werden auf größere, branchenorientierte End‑to‑end‑Deals ausgerichtet; Mark Hura soll Kundenfokus und Deal‑Execution beschleunigen.
🔭 Neue Informationen
- Neu: Keine finanziellen Guidance‑Änderungen; die wesentlichen Neuigkeiten sind organisatorisch: Co‑CEO‑Struktur, PFO‑Ernennung und Präsidentenrolle sowie die Betonung, dass Oracle "größte AI‑Cluster" baut und im nächsten Monat auf AI World Demonstrationen plant.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Kontrolle: Analysten fragten nach dem Umfang von Safra und Larrys operativer Einbindung; Management betont fortlaufende Beteiligung, aber klare tägliche Verantwortung bei den neuen Co‑CEOs.
- Warum jetzt: Timing begründet mit starker Unternehmens‑ und Marktposition infolge AI‑Momentum; Wechsel soll Wachstum beschleunigen.
- Pipeline & Deals: Nachfrage nach großen AI‑Deals wird bestätigt, konkrete Vertragsdetails wurden nicht genannt; mehr Farbe soll beim Financial Analyst Day und auf AI World folgen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Call liefert keine neuen finanziellen Vorgaben, aber signifikante Governance‑ und Organisationsänderungen, die Oracle auf AI‑getriebene, großvolumige Cloud‑ und Applikations‑Deals ausrichten. Aktionäre sollten Execution‑Risiken (Cluster‑Kapazität, Deal‑Close) und kommende Events (Financial Analyst Day, AI World) beobachten für konkrete Umsatz‑ und Margenindikatoren.
Oracle — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Oracle Corporation Q1 FY 2026 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]
I would now like to turn the call over to Ken Bond, Head of Investor Relations. Ken, please go ahead.
Thank you, Tiffany. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Oracle's First Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. A copy of the press release and financial tables, which include a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation and other supplemental financial information can be viewed and downloaded from our Investor Relations website. Additionally, a list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud Services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from the Investor Relations website.
On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; and Chief Executive Officer, Safra Catz.
As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business, which may include -- which may potentially affect these forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments for a complete discussion of these factors and other risks that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock.
And finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before taking questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks.
And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.
Thanks, Ken, and good afternoon, everyone. Clearly, we had an amazing start to the year because Oracle has become the go-to place for AI workloads. We have signed significant cloud contracts with the who's who of AI, including OpenAI, xAI, Meta, NVIDIA, AMD and many others. .
At the end of Q1, remaining performance obligations, or RPO, now top $455 billion. This is up 359% from last year and up $317 billion from the end of Q4. Our cloud RPO grew nearly 500% on top of 83% growth last year.
Now to the results using constant currency growth rate. As you can see, we've made some changes to the face of our income statement to better reflect how we manage the business and so you can understand our cloud business dynamics more directly. So here it goes.
Total cloud revenue, that's both apps and infrastructure, was up 27% to $7.2 billion. Cloud infrastructure revenue was $3.3 billion, up 54% on top of the 46% growth reported in Q1 last year. OCI consumption revenue was up 57%, and demand continues to dramatically outstrip supply. Cloud database services, which were up 32%, now have annualized revenues of nearly $2.8 billion. Autonomous Database revenue was up 43% on top of the 26% growth reported in Q1 last year. MultiCloud database revenue where OCI regions are embedded in AWS, Azure and GCP grew 1,529% in Q1. Cloud Application revenue was $3.8 billion and up 10%, while our strategic back-office application revenue was $2.4 billion, up 16%. Total software revenue for the quarter was $5.7 billion, down 2%.
So all in, total revenues for the quarter were $14.9 billion, up 11% from last year and higher than the 8% growth reported in Q1 last year.
Operating income grew 7% to $6.2 billion. We have also been on an accelerated journey to adopt AI internally to run more efficiently. I expect our operating income will grow mid-teens this year and higher still in FY '27.
Non-GAAP EPS was $1.47 in U.S. dollars, while GAAP EPS was $1.01 in U.S. dollars. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 20.5%, which was higher than the 19% guidance and caused EPS to be $0.03 lower.
For the last 4 quarters, operating cash flow was up 13% to $21.5 billion, and free cash flow was a negative $5.9 billion with 25.9% with $27.4 billion of CapEx. Operating cash flow for Q1 was $8.1 billion, while free cash flow was a negative $362 million with CapEx of $8.5 billion. At quarter end, we had $11 billion in cash and marketable securities and short-term deferred revenue balance was $12 billion, up 5%.
Over the last 10 years, we've reduced the shares outstanding by 1/3 at an average price of $55, which is, at this point, much less than 1/4 of our current stock price. This quarter, we repurchased 440,000 shares for a total of $95 million. In addition, we paid out dividends of $5 billion over the last 12 months, and the Board of Directors again declared a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share.
Given our RPO growth, I now expect fiscal year '26 CapEx will be around $35 billion. As a reminder, the vast majority of our CapEx investments are for revenue-generating equipment that is going into the data centers and not from land or buildings. As we bring more capacity online, we will convert the large RPO backlog into accelerating revenue and profit growth.
Now before I dive into specific Q2 guidance, I'd like to share some of the overarching thoughts on fiscal year '26 and the coming years. Clearly, it was an excellent quarter, and demand for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure continues to build. I expect we will sign additional multibillion-dollar customers and that RPO will likely grow to exceed $0.5 trillion. The enormity of this RPO growth enables us to make a large upward revision to the cloud infrastructure portion of our financial plan. We now expect Oracle Cloud Infrastructure will grow 77% to $18 billion this fiscal year and then increased to $32 billion, $73 billion, $114 billion and $144 billion over the following 4 years. Much of this revenue is already booked in our $455 billion RPO number, and we are off to a fantastic start this year.
Now while much attention is focused on our GPU-related business, our non-GPU infrastructure business continues to grow much faster than our competitors. We are also seeing our industry-specific cloud applications drive customers to our back-office cloud apps. And finally, the Oracle database is booming with 34 multi-cloud data centers now live inside of Azure, GCP and AWS, and we will deliver another 37 data centers for a total of 71.
All these trends point to revenue growth going higher. For fiscal year 2026, we remain confident and committed to full year total revenue growth of 16% in constant currency. Beyond fiscal year '26, I'm even more confident in our ability to further accelerate our top and bottom line growth rate. As mentioned, we will provide an update on our long-range financial targets at our financial analyst meeting at Oracle AI World in Las Vegas in October.
Now let me turn to my guidance for Q2, which I'll review on a non-GAAP basis and assuming currency exchange rates remain the same as they are now. Currency should have a $0.03 positive impact on EPS and a 1% positive effect on revenue, depending on rounding. However, the actual currency impact may be different as it was in Q1. Here it goes.
Total revenues are expected to grow from 12% to 14% and in constant currency and are expected to grow from 14% to 16% in U.S. dollars at today's exchange rates. Total cloud revenue is expected to grow from 32% to 36% in constant currency and is expected to grow from 33% to 37% in USD.
Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 8% to 10% and between -- and be between $1.58 and $1.62 in constant currency. Non-GAAP EPS and is expected to grow 10% to 12% and be between $1.61 and $1.65 in USD. And lastly, my EPS guidance for Q2 assumes a base tax rate of 90%. However, onetime tax events could cause actual tax rates to vary as they did this quarter.
Larry, over to you.
Thank you, Safra. Eventually, AI will change everything. But right now, AI is fundamentally transforming Oracle and the rest of the computer industry, though not everyone fully grasp the extent of the Tsunami that is approaching.
Look at our quarterly numbers. Some things are undeniably evident. Several world-class AI companies have chosen Oracle to build large-scale GPU-centric data centers to train their AI models. That's because Oracle builds gigawatt scale data centers that are faster and more cost efficient at training AI models than anyone else in the world.
Training AI models is a gigantic multitrillion dollar market. It's hard to conceive of the technology market as large as that one. But if you look close, you can find one that's even larger. And it's the market for AI inferencing, Millions of customers using those AI models to run businesses and governments. In fact, the AI inferencing market will be much, much larger than the AI training market. AI inferencing will be used to run robotic factories, robotic cars, robotic greenhouses, biomolecular simulations for drug design, interpreting medical diagnostic images and laboratory results, automating laboratories, placing bets in financial markets, automating legal processes, automating financial processes, automating sales processes. AI is going to write, that is generate the computer programs called AI agents that will automate your sales and marketing processes.
Let me repeat that. AI is going to automatically write the computer programs that will then automate your sales processes and your legal processes and everything else, and you're in your factories and so on. Think about it. It's AI inferencing that will change everything. Oracle is aggressively pursuing the AI -- and we're not doing badly in the AI training market, by the way. But inferencing is bigger. Oracle is aggressively pursuing the inferencing market as well as the AI training market. We think we are in a pretty good position to be a winner in the inferencing market because Oracle is by far the world's largest custodian of high-value private enterprise data.
With the introduction of our new AI database, we added a very important new way for you to store your data in our database. You can vectorize it. And by vectorizing it, by vectorizing all your data, all your data can be understood by AI models. Then we made it very easy for our customers to directly connect all their databases, all their new Oracle AI databases and cloud storage, OCI cloud storage to the world's most advanced AI reasoning models. ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, Llama, all of which are uniquely available in the Oracle Cloud.
After you vectorize your data and link it to an LLM, the LLM of your choice, you can then ask any question you can think of. For example, how will the latest tariffs impact next quarter's revenue and profit? You asked that question, the large language model will then apply advanced reasoning to the combination of your private enterprise data plus publicly available data. You get answers to important questions without ever compromising the safety and security of your private data.
Again, I'd like you to think about this for a moment. A lot of companies are saying, we're being into AI because we're writing agents. We'll get -- we're writing a bunch of agents too. But when they introduced ChatGPT almost 3 years ago, what you've got to do is have a conversation and ask questions. You didn't -- you weren't automating some process with an agent. You could ask whatever question you wanted to ask and get a well-reasoned answer with all of the latest and best information and high-quality leasing go along with it. Who's offering that to customers? We'll be the first when we deliver it and demonstrate it at AI World next month. That's what our customers have been asking for ever since the introduction of ChatGPT, 3.5 almost 3 years ago. I wanted to ask questions about anything. And therefore, you need to understand my enterprise data as well as all the publicly available data. Then you can answer the questions that are most important to me. Well, now they can ask those questions.
Back to you, Safra.
Thank you, Larry. Tiffany, please pull the audience for questions.
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of John DiFucci with Guggenheim Securities.
2. Question Answer
Listen, even I sort of blown away by what this looks like going forward? And this question, I guess, is sort of purposely open ended. So Larry and Safra, Oracle's become the de facto standard for AI training workloads and you make money at it and we have a lot of faith in that. But clearly, there's more here than just AI train. I know it's a big part of it. You talked about it. But can you talk about what else a little more detail about what else is driving these pretty amazing forecasts?
Go ahead, Larry, you were just referring to?
Yes. Well, it's -- a lot of people are looking for inferencing capacity. I mean people are running out of inferencing capacity. I mean, the company that called us, I mentioned I think the last quarter or the quarter before, someone called us, we'll take all the capacity you have that's currently not being used anywhere in the world. We don't care. And I've never gotten a call at that time. That's very unusual call. That was for inferencing, not training.
There's a huge amount of demand for inferencing. And if you think about it, in the end, all this money we're spending on training is going to have to be translated into products that are sold, which is all inferencing. And the inferencing market, again, is much larger than the training market. And yes, we are building -- like everybody else, we're building agents with our applications. but we're doing much more than that. No one has shown me a ChatGPT 3.5 again 3 years ago -- 3.5 years ago, a little less than 3 years ago, when ChatGPT amazed the world. And you could simply talk to your computer and ask questions and get well-reasoned, well -- questions based on the latest and most precise information. as long as you ask those questions about publicly available data, and there's a lot of publicly available data. But if you combine the publicly available data with the enterprise data, which companies really don't want to share, you have to do it in such a way that your private enterprise data stays private, yet the large language model can still use it for reasoning.
So as to answer your question, like how does -- how do the latest tariffs or the latest steel prices or whatever affect my quarterly results. effect my ability to deliver products that affect my revenue back to my cost, answer those kinds of questions. The -- to answer those kind of questions, we have to and we have. We had to change our database, fundamentally change our database so you can vectorize all data. That's the form in which large language models understand information is that after it's been vectorized and then allowing people to ask any question they want about anything. And we -- that's exactly what we've done. But unless you have a database, that is secure and reliable and link to all of the popular LLMs, and we've done all of that, unless you have that and you have to tell me who else has that besides Oracle. Unless you have that, it's going to be very hard for you to deliver a ChatGPT like experience on top of your data as well as publicly available data. That's a unique value proposition for Oracle.
And that's because, again, we're the custodian of all much more data than any of the application companies. They have their application data. They measure their customers in tens of thousands. We measure our customers in millions of databases. So we think we're better positioned than anybody to take advantage of inferencing.
In addition, aside from just our GPU and all of that, we have become the de facto cloud for many of our customers. Again, they want to put some things in our public cloud or in our competitors' public cloud, working with the Oracle database, but simultaneously, there are a lot of reasons why they want what's called either a dedicated region or cloud customer. We give our customers so much choice that they're very unusual for us not to be able to meet a customer's needs in one way or another. And then, of course, we have every piece of the stack. We have the infrastructure. We have the database that you're going to hear a lot about as really the only reasonable store for data that you want to use AI models against. And then we have all of these applications that are just taking off. So we just have a lot of different layers. They're all moving in the same direction, and they all benefit our customers when used together.
Listen, my hat's off -- Go ahead.
Go ahead, John. Maybe you're going to complement us and I interrupted you. What -- so I apologize for being rude.
I was just going to say as off to both of you. I have been doing this for a really long time, and I tell my old team pay attention to this, even those that are not working on Oracle because this is a career event happening right now, and it looks -- it's just amazing. And I guess I'm just really happy for you and congrats on this. It's amazing. Keep doing it.
It's been a lot of work. And let me mention 2 other things. I think that are actually shocking. We have gotten the entire Oracle Cloud, the whole thing, every feature, every function of the Oracle Cloud down to something we can put into a handful of racks, 3 racks, we call it Butterfly that cost $6 million. So we can give you a private version of the Oracle Cloud with every feature, every security feature every function, everything we do for $6 million. I think the cost for -- the other hyperscalers is more than -- more than 100x that. So we can actually give our customers cloud and customer, the full cloud customer. And we have companies like Vodafone. And I'm not sure which companies I can name which companies I can't we have large companies that are buying basically their own Oracle cloud regions.
In fact multiple Oracle cloud regions because they don't want to have any neighbors in their cloud. They don't want other companies in their cloud, but they want the full cloud. They want to pay as they consume, they want all the features, all the functions, all the safety to security. They don't want to have to buy it. They want us to buy and own the software and the hardware, they want us to maintain it, build the network to supply all of that and they just want a paper consumption. We can do that. Add an entry-level price that's 1% of what our competitors can offer. That's one thing.
Another -- let me give you one more and I'll stop there. We also have the most advanced application generator of any company. It's interesting. We're an application company and a cloud infrastructure company. And therefore, we build applications. And as we build applications, we'd like to be more efficient. And the way to be more efficient is to build AI application generators, and we have been doing that. And we -- the latest applications that we are building, we're not building them. They're being generated by AI. And we think we're far, far ahead of any of the other application companies in terms of generating the applications.
So that's another very significant advantage we have. And of course -- and it's funny, I made the comment that we don't charge separately for our AI and our applications because our applications are AI. They're entirely AI. The new ones. The new ones that we're building. There are nothing other than a bunch of AI agents that we generate that are linked together with workflow. That's all they are. How do you charge separately for that? That's every application that we have. But the applications are better, and hopefully, we'll sell more, and that's the way we'll get paid for them. Thank you, John, for the very nice complement.
Thank you, Larry. Thank you, Safra.
Thank you, John, for all these years following us so kindly also. Great day. Probably time for another question at this point.
Your next question comes from the line of Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
Great. Thanks very much. And I think we're all kind of in shock in a very, very good way. Larry, there's no better evidence of a seismic shift happening in computing than these results that you just put up. Oracle has a near 50-year track record of navigating transitions and coming out on top. But as we think about enterprise applications, investors are fairly pessimistic these days, and I'd love to hear your perspective. Where do you see this all going for the industry? Where does the market share go to the companies that don't have the database, don't have the advantages that you have all the way down to the silicon? Is this maybe an extension event be curious to hear what you think?
Well, I think we have substantial advantages because we are an infrastructure company, and we are an application company. There are 2 things that happen as an application company, we needed -- we knew we had to start generating our applications. We just couldn't do with armies of people anymore. We still need people, don't get me wrong. But the number of people we need is substantially less. And we can build/generate much better applications than we can hand build. And we've been working on these AI application generators for some time, and we're actually using them. But the thing is we're not just building application generators. We're building application generators and then we're building the applications, which gives us insights to make the application generator better. You -- it's a huge advantage to be on both sides of that equation, both being an application builder and a builder of the obligation generation technology, the underlying AI application code generators. That's a huge advantage.
Let me give you another advantage, which is often a disadvantage. We're very large. We no longer sell individual discrete applications. We sell suites of applications. We decided to go into the medical business against EPIC, believing that we could solve much more of the problem because we're much bigger than they are. And by the way, we're much bigger than Workday and -- or ServiceNow. And we're solving a larger portion of the problem. We're able to do all of ERP, then we can add all of CRM, but all the pieces are engineered to fit together. That makes it so much easier for customers to consume. So we think that selling -- being good at application generation, the underlying technology makes us better, build better applications enables us to build more applications so we can solve more of the problem, so the customers don't have to do all that system integration across multiple vendors. We can just build a suite where all the pieces are engineered to fit together.
I think we have tremendous advantages in the application space. We have tremendous advantages in the AI inferencing space where we can -- again, what we'll demonstrate at Oracle AI World next month is we've taken all of our customer data, all of it. I won't go into all the details now. But you can ask any question you want to ask. Who's your salesperson, who's the #1 prospect in my territory? What product should I be selling them next? What are the reference -- what are the best references for me to use could persuade them to use our to use our product? You can get all of those questions answered for you immediately if you're a salesperson, the engineers can look at which features of Oracle Financials are people making the most errors when they're using those features, but I have to fix and make easier to use. You just asked the question because all of that data is available to AI models. We're the only -- is there anyone else doing this? Not that I know of. It's a huge event.
Look forward to AI World, Larry. Thank you. It's an amazing day for Oracle. It's a remarkable day for the industry. Thanks again and congrats.
Your next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood with TD Cowen.
Great. I'll echo my congratulations on this momentous quarter. Safra, the fact that you delivered over $300 billion of new RPO in Q1, just really amazing to see, but it's going to require a lot of infrastructure build out. So could you provide a bit more context on how much CapEx and operational cost structure will be needed to fully service these contracts? How we should think about the ramp of these costs relative to the ramp in revenue over the next few years? And generally, how investors should be thinking about the ROI on the spend?
Sure. So first of all, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, and as I've said very clearly beforehand, we do not own the property. We do not own the buildings. What we do own and what we engineer is the equipment. And that's equipment that is optimized for the Oracle Cloud. It has extremely special networking capabilities. It has technical capabilities from Larry and his team that allows us to run these workloads much, much faster. And as a result, it's much cheaper than our competitors, and depending on the workload. Now because of that, what we do is we put in that equipment only when it's time and usually very quickly assuming that our customer accept it we're already generating revenue right away. The faster they accept the system and that it meets their needs, the faster they start using it the sooner we have revenue. This is, in some ways, I don't want to call it asset light from the finance world, but it's asset pretty light. And that is really an advantage for us.
I know some of our competitors, they like to own buildings that's not really our specialty. Our specialty is the unique technology, the unique networking, the storage, just the whole way we put these systems together. And by the way, they are identical and very simplified and again, making it possible for us to be very profitable while still being able to offer our customers an incredibly compelling price. What I have indicated is that CapEx looks like it's going to be about $35 billion for this fiscal year. But because we're monitoring this, we're literally putting it in right when we take possession and then handing it over to generate revenue right away.
So we're very -- we have a very good line of sight for our capabilities to put this out and to and basically to just spend on that CapEx right before it starts generating revenue. But at this point, I'm looking at $35 billion for the year. And I think -- I mean it could be a little higher, but I think -- and if it is higher, it's good news because it means more capacity has been handed over to me in terms of floor space. And as you also know, we are embedded in our competitors' cloud, again, all we are responsible for to pay for is, in fact, our equipment, and that goes right away. And there, we're moving ultimately to 71 data centers embedded in our competitors/partners.
Let me add a couple of very short things. One is we just turned over a giant data hall to 1 of our customers. And the acceptance time could have been as long as a couple of months. It was 1 week. It was 1 week from the time we owned -- officially owned the equipment, and they were testing it to the time they started paying for it. 1 week. So we have an extraordinary team that's doing an extraordinary job of making sure that we get the equipment working very quickly. And the -- and our customers can accept it, they want to accept it as fast as possible because they want to do the work, they want to train their models. And this one took a huge hall, took 1 week for acceptance. It was extraordinary that.
The other we are a very large consumer of networking equipment, GPUs, et cetera. Because we are a very large consumer, we are able, I think, to get better financing terms from the vendors than some of their people. So I think we have that going for us as well. I think we're going to do very well on the finance side. We have advantages there as well.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Moerdler with Bernstein Research.
Thank you very much, Larry and Safra, and frankly, Team Oracle amazing and congratulations. I'd like to focus on the AI training business you've been winning. Could you please explain to us how Oracle can create enough of a differentiated moat to assure this business does not get commoditized? And how do you continue to drive strong earnings and free cash flow from the training business, even if training slows? I think people really need to understand that.
Well, let me -- I mean, I can do it with one sentence. Our networks move data very, very fast. And if we can move data faster than the other people, if we have advantages in our super -- our GPU super clusters that are performance advantages. If you're paying by the hour if we're twice as fast, we're half the cost.
Your final question comes from the line of Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research.
I really appreciate you squeezing me in. I originally was going to ask you if the new Oracle AI database really opens up the general enterprise inferencing market. And based on your script, it sounds like the answer to that question is hell yes. So I guess my follow-up question would be, do you -- how do you see that pacing happening over the course of the next few years? How soon after the introduction of the Oracle AI database would you expect your enterprise customers, your sophisticated customers to really be open to interrogating their enterprise data in this fashion? And how does the current supply-constrained environment stand in the way of that demand? Or is it solving as we speak? .
I don't know if Larry, you want to go for it. You covered it in prepared remarks. Go ahead.
Okay. I think who wouldn't want that? I mean I think everyone says they want to use AI. I mean every -- I mean, CEOs, they don't want to use AI heads of state, heads of government say they want to use AI. We've never had consumers like that. I mean we -- historically, we don't deal with CEOs. Now we deal with CEOs. Now we do with Heads of Government, Heads of States on this because AI is so important. And letting people have used AI on top of their data. That is what they want to do. But they didn't know how to do it securely. They didn't know how to -- well, they did know how to do it period. And one of the big risks was, oh, my god, I can't share my -- BP Morgan Chase can't share all of its data. Goldman Sachs can't share all of his data with OpenAI. They won't do it. So -- or xAI or Llama or Meta. They won't -- it's got to get it private.
So we've got to keep your private data private. We've got to keep your private data secure. But we have to make it available for inferencing by the latest and best reasoning models from open AI and AI and everyone else. And we've -- because we have the database because we can vectorize all the data in the database because we have very elaborate security models in our database in the Oracle database, we can do all that. We can deliver all that. And then what we chose to do was to -- with the AI database was not only make sure we can vectorize all the data so it can be understood by the AI model, we then bundled it with all of the AI models. That's why we did a deal with Google. That's why we did all of these deals, where Gemini, you can get Gemini from the Oracle Cloud, you can get Grok from the Oracle Cloud. You can get ChatGPT from the Oracle Cloud. You get Llama from the Oracle Cloud. I could go on.
So we bundled them together, so it's very easy for our customers to use these large language models on a combination, and that's what they want is a combination of all of the publicly available data and all of their enterprise data, which allows them to ask and get answered any question they can think of any question that's important to them. Everyone wants it. I think the demand is going to be insatiable. But -- we can deliver a lot of databases and a lot of AI across our cloud over the next several years. We're in a good position to do that.
And this is going to be one of the reasons that Oracle databases, which are still the bulk of the enterprise market by a lot are going to finally move into the cloud. Many of them will move from the public cloud using the Oracle AI database. But many and the largest enterprises will want their own either dedicated regions or Oracle Cloud customer. And again, they can finally get the benefit of for their own data using any LLM that they want because they're all in our cloud, too.
It sounds like very high-margin AI revenue guys. Congratulations.
Thank you. Thank you. Okay.
Thanks, Aleks. A telephonic replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our Investor Relations website. Thank you for joining us today.
With that, I'll turn the call back to Tiffany for closing.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
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Oracle — Q1 2026 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Totalumsatz: $14,9 Mrd (+11% YoY)
- Total Cloud: $7,2 Mrd (+27% YoY)
- OCI (Infra): $3,3 Mrd (+54%); OCI‑Consumption +57%
- Remaining Performance Obligations (RPO): $455 Mrd (+359% YoY; +$317 Mrd vs. Q4)
- Non‑GAAP EPS: $1,47 (GAAP EPS $1,01); FCF Q1: -$362 Mio (CapEx $8,5 Mrd)
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- AI‑Position: Oracle sieht sich als bevorzugte Plattform für AI‑Training und vor allem für Inferencing; nannte Großkunden wie OpenAI, Meta, NVIDIA.
- AI‑Database: Neue „AI Database“ erlaubt Vectorisierung von Unternehmensdaten und sichere Anbindung an große LLMs für unternehmensspezifische Inferencing‑Use‑Cases.
- Stack‑Vorteil: Kombination aus Infrastruktur, Datenbank und generativen Anwendungen (AI‑generierte App‑Builder) soll als Differenzierer und Treiber für Apps‑Wachstum dienen.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- Q2‑Guidance: Umsatz +12–14% CC (14–16% USD); Cloud +32–36% CC; Non‑GAAP EPS $1,58–1,62 CC ($1,61–1,65 USD).
- FY‑Ausblick: Gesamtumsatz FY26 +16% CC; OCI wird nun FY26 auf $18 Mrd prognostiziert; langfristige Steigerungen deutlich höher geplant.
- Risiken: Angebotsknappheit (Nachfrage > Angebot), mögliche Einmaleffekte bei Steuern, Umsetzungstempo beim CapEx‑Rollout.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- Treiber jenseits Training: Analysten wollten Klarheit – Management betont Inferencing, AI‑DB und AI‑generierte Anwendungen als zusätzliche Wachstumssäulen.
- CapEx & ROI: Nachfrage nach Details zum CapEx‑Ramp; Management nennt ~ $35 Mrd FY26, fokussiert auf equipment‑intensive, schnell annehmbare Deployments.
- Moat‑Frage: Zu Wettbewerbsbarrieren: Ellison hebt Netzwerk‑, Performance‑ und Daten‑Custody‑Vorteile hervor; konkrete Vergleichszahlen fehlen.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Der Call signalisiert eine strukturelle Beschleunigung dank massivem RPO‑Zuwachs und klarer AI‑Strategie. Hohes Wachstumspotenzial steht substanziellem CapEx‑ und Ausführungsrisiko gegenüber; Anleger sollten Chancen gegen Liefer-, Steuer‑ und Margenrisiken abwägen.
Oracle — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
1. Management Discussion
Hello, and welcome to the Oracle Corporation Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call.
[Operator Instructions]
I would now like to turn the conference over to Ken Bond, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Sarah, and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Oracle's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. A copy of the press release and financial tables, which includes a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation and other supplemental financial information can be viewed and downloaded from our Investor Relations website.
Additionally, a list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud Services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from our Investor Relations website. On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; and Chief Executive Officer, Safra Catz.
As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business, which may potentially affect these forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments for a complete discussion of these factors and other risks that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. And finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before taking questions, we will begin with a few prepared remarks.
And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.
Thanks, Ken, and good afternoon, everyone. As you can see, we had an excellent fourth quarter to finish out an amazing year with Q4 total revenue and EPS both exceeding my guidance. We are reporting our fiscal year-end results just 11 days after the last day of the quarter. Using Oracle Fusion, we continue to announce our quarterly and annual financial results faster than any other company in the S&P 500.
Now a few years ago, I told you that we've reached a tipping point in our cloud transition and expected revenue growth to accelerate, and it has. In Q4, we hit double-digit revenue growth, and it's only going up from here, even as the company gets bigger. Our remaining performance obligations now stand at $138 billion, up $8 billion from last quarter and up 41% from last year, and yet the best is still to come. Our applications business was the first area we moved to the cloud more than a decade ago, and we are now the leader in enterprise back office with SaaS solutions for ERP, financials, EPM, HCM, supply chain and manufacturing.
With the addition of over 100 AI agents, along with strong bookings and higher renewal rates for our strategic SaaS products, I expect the cloud applications growth rate will accelerate this coming year. Our infrastructure business was the next area to move to the cloud. we made engineering decisions that were much different from the other hyperscalers and that were better suited to the needs of enterprise customers, resulting in lower costs to them and giving them deployment flexibility.
OCI has seen exceptional demand for infrastructure services and those contracted noncancelable bookings in RPO give us confidence that OCI revenue will grow over 70% this current year. Included in that is that Oracle Autonomous Database and the AI data platform. Enterprises know that their AI needs demand the most capable database to manage a company's full data set. Further, with our AI and autonomous features, our customers can bring all their data together, make it available for LLMs and yet have the best security built in. In addition, our customers have the flexibility to run their Oracle databases in OCI, in private clouds or in partner clouds with our multi-cloud offering. But what is clear is that more customers will use the Oracle database to leverage AI.
So as a result of the strength in our cloud applications and infrastructure, including database services, we are raising our revenue guidance for fiscal year '26 to over $67 billion, up 16% for the year.
Now to the results. And as usual, I'll be discussing our financials using constant currency growth rates as it is how we manage the business. Total cloud revenue, SaaS plus IaaS was up 27% at $6.7 billion. And total cloud services and license support revenue for the quarter was $11.7 billion, up 14%. IaaS revenue was $3 billion, up 52% on top of the 42% growth reported last year. OCI consumption revenue was up 62% and demand continues to dramatically outstrip supply. Our infrastructure cloud services now have an annualized revenue of nearly $12 billion. Cloud database services, which were up 31%, now have annualized revenue of $2.6 billion. Autonomous Database consumption revenue was up 47% on top of the 27% growth reported last year.
As on-premise databases migrate to the cloud, either on OCI directly or through our database at cloud services with Azure, Google or AWS, we expect that cloud database revenues collectively will be the third driver of revenue growth alongside OCI and strategic SaaS. We are currently live in 23 cloud regions with database at cloud services and have another 47 planned. Database subscription revenues, which include database license support, were up 7%. Infrastructure subscription revenues in the quarter, which includes license support, were $6.7 billion, up 19%. SaaS revenue was $3.7 billion, up 11%. Application subscription revenues, which include support, were $5 billion, up 8%. Our strategic back-office SaaS applications now have annualized revenues of $9.3 billion, and they were up 20%. Software license revenues were up 8% to $2 billion.
So all in, total revenues for the quarter were $15.9 billion, up 11% from last year. Operating income grew 7%. Non-GAAP EPS was $1.70 in U.S. dollars, while GAAP EPS was USD 1.19 in U.S. dollars. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 9.7%, higher than 19.7%, which was higher than my 19% guidance. For the full fiscal year, total company revenue was $57.4 billion, up 9%. Total cloud services and license support revenue, which is entirely subscription-based and accounts for 77% of total revenue was $44 billion, up 12%.
Total application subscription revenue grew 7% and infrastructure subscription revenues grew 17%. Total cloud services were up 24% to $24.5 billion. IaaS or cloud infrastructure revenue, was up 51% to $10.2 billion for the quarter with consumption revenue up 59% from last year. SaaS revenue was up 10% to $14.3 billion for the year. Non-GAAP EPS for the full year was USD 6, up 9% and the full year operating income grew 9%. As mentioned, remaining performance obligation at the end of Q4 is now $138 billion, up 41% in USD. Further, our cloud RPO grew 56% on top of the 80% growth last year and now represents nearly 80% of total RPO and approximately 33% of total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue over the next 12 months. For the year, operating cash flow was up 12% at $20.8 billion, and free cash flow was a negative $400 million with $21.2 billion of CapEx. Operating cash flow for Q4 was $6.2 billion, while free cash flow was a negative $2.9 billion with CapEx of $9.1 billion.
The vast majority of our CapEx investments are for revenue-generating equipment that is going into data centers and not for land or buildings. I expect that FY '26 CapEx will be higher at over $25 billion as we work to meet demand from our backlog. As we bring more capacity online, our revenue and profit growth will further accelerate.
At quarter end, we had $11.2 billion in cash and marketable securities. The short-term deferred revenue balance was $9.4 billion. We are committed to returning value to our shareholders through technical innovation, strategic acquisitions, stock repurchases, prudent use of debt and a dividend. This quarter, we repurchased a little over 1 million shares for a total of $150 million. And over the last 10 years, we've reduced shares outstanding by more than 1/3 at an average share price of just over $54.
In addition, we have paid out dividends of $4.7 billion over the last 12 months, and the Board of Directors again declared a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share.
Since it's the beginning of FY '26, I'd like to comment on the financial acceleration we expect to see in the coming years. Between our 138 billion RPO and even larger pipeline, we have a clear line of sight to future revenue growth. So for fiscal year 2026, I expect that total cloud revenue will grow over 40% in constant currency, up from 24% in FY '25. I expect that cloud infrastructure revenue will grow over 70%, up from 51% in FY '25. I expect total revenue will be at least $67 billion, up 16% in constant currency and up more than $1 billion from our prior guidance. RPO is likely to grow more than 100% in fiscal '26. And lastly, I expect we will exceed the revenue growth target we previously provided for FY '27.
Beyond FY '27, I'm even more confident in our ability to meet and likely exceed our previously provided FY '29 targets. We will provide a more fulsome update on our long-range financial targets at the Financial Analyst Meeting at Oracle Cloud World in Las Vegas in October.
Now let me turn to my guidance for Q1, which I'll review on a non-GAAP basis. Now assuming currency exchange rates remain the same as they are now, currency should have a $0.02 positive effect on EPS and a flat to 1% positive effect on revenue depending on rounding. However, of course, the actual currency impact may be different. Total revenues are expected to grow from 11% to 13% in constant currency are expected to grow from 12% to 14% in U.S. dollars. Total cloud revenue is expected to grow from 26% to 30% in constant currency and U.S. dollars.
Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 4% to 6% and be between $1.44 and $1.48 in constant currency. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 5% to 7% and be between USD 1.46 and USD 1.50. Lastly, my EPS guidance assumes a base tax rate of 19%. However, onetime tax events could cause actual tax rates to vary. We had a great year. And this year, the one we're in now, will be better. Oracle is well on its way to being not only the world's largest cloud application company, but also one of the world's largest cloud infrastructure companies. And with that, I'll turn it over to Larry for his comments.
Thank you, Safra. Oracle's future is bright in this new era of cloud computing. Oracle will be the #1 cloud database company. Oracle will be the #1 cloud applications company, and Oracle will be the #1 builder and operator of cloud infrastructure data centers. We will build and operate more cloud infrastructure data centers than all of our cloud infrastructure competitors combined.
First, database. Most of the world's most valuable data is stored in an Oracle database. All of those databases are moving to the cloud. Oracle's Cloud, Microsoft's Azure cloud, Amazon's Cloud or Google's Cloud. Oracle runs everywhere. The latest vector version of the Oracle Database, Oracle 23 AI, is an AI data platform, the only database that can make all of the customer's data immediately available to all of the popular AI large language models while maintaining complete data privacy for the customer. As use of AI increases, so will Oracle's database market share. Oracle will be the largest and most profitable cloud applications company in the world. Oracle developed suites of integrated AI agent-based applications for ERP, for EPM, supply chain, manufacturing, human resources and customer engagement, plus industry applications for health care, banking, utilities, retail, hospitality and many other industries.
We use the most modern application generators and AI database technology to build our application suite. And then we add AI and analytics using OpenAI, XAI, Google, Llama and other popular LLMs on top of that application data. No other company is even attempting to build the depth and breadth of AI-based applications that we have already built. Oracle will build more cloud infrastructure data centers than all of our infrastructure competitors combined. All of our OCI data centers from the smallest low-cost data center to the largest gigawatt AI training data center include all Oracle OCI capabilities. A large percentage of those capabilities are autonomous. So labor costs are minimized and human error is dramatically reduced. Oracle is already prospering in this new era of cloud computing and AI, and it's just the beginning. Back to you, Safra.
Thank you, Larry. Before we go to the Q&A, just to repeat one number. FY '25 cloud infrastructure revenue was up 51% to $10.2 billion for the year with consumption revenue up 59% from last year. Sarah, if you could please poll the audience for questions.
[Operator Instructions]
Your first question comes from Mark Moerdler with Bernstein.
2. Question Answer
Larry, Safra and the whole Oracle family, congratulations on the strong quarter and the strong year. You've been promising and are now starting to deliver extraordinary growth acceleration, something we've not seen at other very large software companies. Yet there's a lack of understanding across the street of your AI business. Can you give us color or break out any numbers to help investors understand the durability and profitability of the AI business?
Okay. Well, the interesting thing is a lot of people are talking about that they have all the data. So these other companies say they have all the data, so they can do AI really well. They can build all these AI agents on top of all of that data. The only problem with that statement is they don't have all the data we do. We have most of the world's valuable data. The vast majority of it is in an Oracle database. And the latest version of the Oracle database is an AI-centric piece of technology, a vector database called Oracle 23 AI.
So what it does is it allows -- it's the key enabler for companies to use AI. Using AI, I mean, the current AI models are trained on the Internet, otherwise known as publicly available data. Do you think JPMorgan Chase makes all of their internal data publicly available? Do you think these AI models train on JPMorgan Chase's data?
Companies want to be able to use AI models on top of their own data. That is essential. Oracle applications make the -- all of the data inside the Oracle applications available to AI models like Grok or ChatGPT, by the way, all the rest of them from Google, from whomever from Meta Llama, all of us, we have all of those LLM are in our cloud or in the Oracle Cloud.
So this is our value proposition. Our database takes all of your data. Our applications take all of your application data and make that data available the most popular AI models like if you like ChatGPT, you use ChatGPT. If you like Grok, you use Grok, you use that in the Oracle Cloud. We are the key enabler for enterprises to use their own data and models. No one else is doing that.
That makes sense.
It's a huge -- this is not a small point. This is why our database business is going to grow dramatically. Think about it. You have to put all of your data into a database. So that database must be highly secure. It must be scalable. It must be economical. It must be reliable, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. It has to be fall tolerant. It can never break. That's how Oracle got popular in the first place. But then it has to hold the data in a way that's consumable by the AI models. In other words, the data has to be vectorized and searchable by the AI models and you use that data to train up those models on your data? Who else is doing that. Let me answer the question, nobody.
The next question comes from John DiFucci with Guggenheim.
Thank you, Larry and Safra. Safra, your quote in that press release that you repeated on this call about next year was pretty amazing and a strong statement as I've seen you make. And I've known you a long time. So putting that in print means a lot to me because I know it means a lot to you. Can you help us unpack that statement a bit, for instance, is Stargate part of the more than 70% growth you expect in IAS in fiscal '26. And we don't know the timing of Stargate or even your financial share. Like we know there's big numbers out there, but not how much of it yours or you're going to be involved. But as target also in the RPO growth of more than 100% in fiscal '26. And any other color beyond Stargate to help us get our heads around those massive growth numbers for IAS would be helpful.
Thanks, John. And yes, we have known each other a very long time, longer than ever to admit. So the reality is that Stargate is still information the work, there are a lot of partnerships we are in the middle of right now that are all part of this enormous growth rate. We are the destination for everyone who wants AI workloads, who want database workloads and want applications. We are really -- and all of that together comes in to our RPO. We have so much in pipeline right now that -- and of course, we have so much in RPO, meaning those are noncancelable contracts, and we see the demand I am still in a position where our supply is not meeting our demand.
We actually currently are still waiving off customers from -- or scheduling them out into the future so that we have enough supply to meet demand. This is a situation that we have not seen in our history, and the numbers themselves are so enormous. And the reason is because our technology is different. As Larry has said on previous calls, the cloud we built runs faster and has more capabilities than our competitors to -- and that are built for enormous amounts of data. And so we are very much the destination of choice.
As Stargate forms, that will contribute into all of this, but some of our partners, many of our partners, some of them will be in Stargate, some are outside of Stargate, we really are working with many, many companies right now and have enormous pipeline as a result.
So let me give you a couple of -- let me chime in here also a little bit. Let me surprise you with -- there are huge contracts that have nothing to do with even AI. We got a gigantic contract from Temu that would have been unprecedented except for all the other gigantic contracts we've also been getting. But Temu is a very large company that's growing extremely rapidly. And they are basically moving their infrastructure to the Oracle Cloud. That was a very big contract. We're seeing huge growth in multi-cloud from the data centers we've already built and the data -- I mean, it's revenues that obviously did since we already built. And -- but the future -- the growth rate in multi-cloud is astonishing. In other words, our database is now moving very rapidly to the cloud. I think because -- a few reasons because the database has now all these AI capabilities, but also, quite frankly, now people can get it in whatever cloud they want.
If you're dedicated to using Microsoft Azure, you can get the Oracle database in Microsoft Azure. The fully capable Oracle database in Microsoft Assure with all our [indiscernible] features, including the new AI features. You can get it at Google, you can get it on Amazon, you can get it to the Oracle Cloud. It's all the same in every place. And that's given our customers a lot of comfort that Oracle is not only where they store all of their current data that they want to keep using the Oracle database and expand their use of the Oracle database and all of that and move all of that data to the cloud as quickly as they can, and they're now able to do it at the place -- the cloud that they're choosing. So the database business is growing rapidly.
The -- this next generation of companies like ByteDance, TikTok, which obviously, we do business with them. Temu is another, but Uber, I mean there are just lots of these companies. A bunch of the security companies have moved to the Oracle Cloud. It's a multi -- it's growth coming from many, many different directions.
So if I could just -- so Stargate is just part of it. There's a lot of things happening here. And -- but I just wanted -- just to clarify, it sounds like it's part of RPO, but is it also part of that 70% in IS revenue growth, too?
Well -- go ahead, Safra.
Stargate is not formed yet, but some of our business with OpenAI, which is one of our partners in Stargate is part of our future very much so. But you understand, we work with OpenAI. We -- those are still small numbers in the scheme of everything else we're doing, but it will ultimately be bigger.
Okay. Next question, please -- let me add 1 little thing. If Stargate turns out to be everything is advertised, then we've understated our RPO growth.
Correct.
The next question comes from Ben Reitzes with Melius Research.
Safra, Larry, great to be speaking with you today. Nice presentation. Your CapEx in the quarter was much higher than expected. I mean, $5 billion more than we expected to get to the [ $21 billion ]. And now you're thinking about it going to [ $25 billion ]. Just wanted a little more color on what it was spent on? How is it helping you yield more revenue? And how do you know [ $25 billion ] is the right number for this year? And Larry usually have some pretty good color on architecture when you answer this question, so I'm looking forward to that as well.
Okay. So let me start and let Larry make it perfect. The reality is that, as I mentioned on the call, our CapEx is usually about equipment. We're not -- we have building partners who charge us rent once they finish constructing things. And when we all of a sudden have higher CapEx, it means we are filling out data centers and we are buying components to build our computers, which are different than other people, and we are putting them on the floor. We had an opportunity to buy up and for deployment, and so we did, and we are putting out as much capacity as we possibly can as quickly as we can.
I do believe that the $25 billion next year may turn out to be understated. So it is all to meet demand. We don't order, we don't build unless we've got orders for our capacity to be built out. And we have so much so much in orders right now that I actually expect -- I believe I said on the call, over $25 billion this next quarter. And that is, again, to match demand.
Let me add -- we recently got an order that said we'll take all the capacity you have, wherever it is. It could be in Europe, it could be an Asia, we'll just take everything. I mean we might not order like that before. The -- we had to move things around, and we did the best we could to give them the capacity they needed. The demand is astronomical. We have to -- but we have to do this methodically. The reason demand continues to outstrip supply is, we can only build these data centers, build these computers so fast. And we're also doing a lot of engineering around high-speed networking. You'll see us making -- we are making large engineering investments to speed up the networking, the reliability of the network and lower the cost of the networking. So we're doing a bunch of things -- we are doing a bunch of things to lower our CapEx costs. But even if we do that, CapEx is going to go up because the demand right now seems almost insatiable. I mean I don't know how to describe it. I've never seen anything remotely like this.
I mean people are calling up and asking us, please, can you find us more capacity. We'll take it wherever it's in Malaysia, we'll take it -- fine. We'll take it there. We got some wherever.
Are you having trouble getting GPUs?
No.
No, not right now. No.
Got it. Appreciate it.
The next question comes from Siti Panigrahi with Mizuho.
Congratulations on a strong Q4 and impressive guidance. I want to go back to the cloud database, mainly you have massive database on on-prem. So what are you hearing from customers in terms of migrating to cloud. Now you have multi-cloud strategy, you have dedicated [ alloy ] customer. And Safra, what's your expectation on the cloud database revenue contribution are driving that 70% growth of OCI in fiscal '26?
Okay. Let me just start. So first of all, the database business is really healthy, really growing. In fact, you even see it in the number that I think folks didn't think was possible, which is in license. You should understand that when our customers are buying more licenses that actually means often that they want to use the bring your own license pricing to go to the cloud. So database support is up, is solid. License is up, all the cloud metrics, autonomous, consumption, Oracle Cloud, all of multi-cloud is basically using up all capacity that gets put out there. So the Oracle database is on fire. And it is only the beginning.
I want to remind you what a significant and large business it is and the bulk of it is still on-premise. As Larry said, now that you can have it in any of the clouds you like with the at database, you know, at Oracle in all the other clouds also beyond just OCI or you can deploy it at cloud at customer another place where the numbers are enormous in growth rates. So consumption going way up, more licensing, more bookings and and a lot of demand. And the database side of the world for all the reasons we said is just a superb business and extremely compelling, especially to the extent you want to leverage artificial intelligence.
You asked for a number or an easy number to figure out so let's say, 10% -- or $10 billion of our support revenue -- our database support revenue, moves to the cloud. So that becomes at least $50 billion because it includes all the computers and all the networking and all of that. So the support was just 20% of the license fee. So you move $10 billion of our database to the cloud, it becomes at least $50 billion in cloud revenue. It's almost as big as Oracle as now.
The next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.
Congrats as well. The one subject we haven't really talked about was applications, but with all the excitement around OCI, like I think you don't get enough credit on applications. Can you talk a little bit about what's going on there because I had to go back in my model quite a bit to see 22% growth on Fusion and the outlook looks really strong as well, and you talked about accelerating growth there. With all the worries about tariffs and stuff like that, I kind of I'm surprised to see kind of these very, very good numbers from you. Can you maybe talk about that a little bit?
Sure. Tariffs have no impact really at all to play in this. What it does allow our customers to do is do what I do when I announced a year on day 11 is to be much more really -- much better run and have a better idea of where their business is and how it's doing and to do more and spend a lot less. What you're seeing now, and it hasn't been obvious in the numbers because, as you know, we have our strategic SaaS products, and we break that down for you in the release to some extent. And those are going gangbusters. And we've had other things in the numbers that have made you not be able to really see.
We have some nonstrategic products. And in addition, we've also had an advertising business, which we are now lapping. I stopped even mentioning it because what's the difference, a few hundred million. But the reality is what you're starting to see is our strategic SaaS products as they roll out in our customer sites and as they ramp up, they're very, very popular. They're obviously compelling because only if you're in the cloud, can you use the AI capabilities. See many customers are still on-premise ERP products those can't really use the advanced agentic and AI capabilities. So if you want to use that and many do for automation and to do more spend less, you've got to move to Fusion or NetSuite and those are just very, very compelling and it's just now starting to show through the noise.
I would add -- let me add one thing, which is companies don't really enjoy buying applications from 5 different vendors and then making all of those applications work together. So some companies, not all, but some companies are saying, Oracle, you build these integrated suites of applications, and they're all -- and they are AI agent-based applications. So they're modern applications, they're modern cloud applications. And -- but all of your applications are engineered to work with one another. So our ERP and EPM supply chain manufacturing, human resources, customer engagement, all those apps are designed as a single suite of applications to run an enterprise or government agency. And all those pieces then work together. So there's no cost of integrating those applications. So we're seeing a lot of companies buying -- basically saying, "I'm going to go all Oracle. I'm going to buy the complete Oracle suite for ERP," EPM, supply chain manufacturing, a lot of people don't have manufacturing, supply chain, human report sources and customer engagement, they're picking us -- they pick our back-office applications, they'll sometimes pick our front office applications over Salesforce as a result of that. And our customer engagement applications are getting better and better. we continue to invest in this. And our intent is to give our -- some of our biggest customers a one-stop shop where they can buy the entire suite to run their enterprise from us. And that gets rid of a lot of headaches.
Everything is in the same database, everything comes with the same AI data platform with it, all the analytics are there. Everything is there. You don't have to do the system integration. You don't have to fit the -- buy a bunch of pieces and make them work together. That has been our strategy for some time, and that's all coming together as a bunch of companies are not successfully navigating this difficult -- admittedly difficult transition from on-premise to the cloud.
There have been a lot of companies that have not done it very well. And they are casualties and we're picking up a lot of their users. So the application business is very, very promising. And then I add Oracle Health and Oracle Banking, Oracle retail, hospitality, the different industries on top of that. There's no other apps company that is trying to build such a broad-based integrated suite of AI cloud application. Who's closest -- there's no one doing it -- now [indiscernible] attempting to do what we're doing.
Your final question comes from Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
And congrats. Safra, Larry, the things you've been telling us would happen are clearly happening and it's amazing. As we go forward, Larry, Oracle has always had the advantage of being the only vendor with enterprise-grade technology from apps, all the way down to infrastructure -- and since the Sunday is optimized even down to the silicon, why does the full stack nature of what you do remain important as we enter this new era of computing.
Well, such an interesting question because I think, to some degree, people bought our biggest weakness is that we were just spread too thin. We're trying to do infrastructure, I mean, database initially, infrastructure and then applications on top of that infrastructure. But what made our database so good? I can argue that we made some good technology decisions. But the other thing that made our database so good is we had we developed apps on top of our own database. And in the same company, you have people using the database to develop applications and the people -- the people are developing that database. And if the applications found features missing from the database, they've on capabilities they wish were in the database that would make their applications better more reliable, more secure, we gain those insights by building those applications. Building applications allowed us to understand how to build database better, building great databases made it much easier to build the cloud.
There are a lot of databases that run the cloud. You become -- there's a database of our users, all of our resources are in databases. So the autonomous data -- the Oracle Autonomous Database is one of the reasons our cloud -- at some point, we're going to recresting our cloud from Gen 2 cloud to the autonomous cloud. Right now, that would be too aggressive. We're not fully autonomous. But we're getting there. And because we were able to use a lot of our existing database technology, specifically the autonomous database technology to make our cloud more scalable, more reliable. And by the way, when you eliminate human labor, when you have an autonomous database, you eliminate human labor, you save money, but you also eliminate human error and human mishap. So it makes your cloud much more secure. One of the reasons our cloud is more secure, one of the reasons our cloud is faster is because we have an autonomous database that runs it.
So having all of these levels of technology allows us to solve a technical problem at the right layer of the technology. Should we solve the problem in the network fabric. Should we solve the problem with our cloud computer controller, something we have with other people that we've embedded different hardware to run the cloud. We added -- we have different hardware architecture to make it more secure and more reliable. So we've done innovation in the network. We've done innovation in our host computing. We have an autonomous nonstop Linux operating system that we built, the autonomous database that manages all the data in the cloud and so on. being able to solve problems at different layers of the technology, understanding the different layers of the technology allows us to build an integrated solution that is faster cheaper, more reliable than what our competitors can do.
A telephonic replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our Investor Relations website. Thank you for joining us today. With that, I'll turn the call back to Sarah for closing.
Thank you. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.
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Oracle — Q4 2025 Earnings Call
📊 Quartal auf einen Blick
- Umsatz: $15,9 Mrd (+11% YoY)
- Cloud (SaaS+IaaS): $6,7 Mrd (+27% YoY); Cloud Services & License Support $11,7 Mrd (+14%).
- OCI / IaaS: IaaS $3,0 Mrd (+52%); OCI-Consumption +62%; infra-Annualized ~ $12 Mrd.
- Ergebnis: Non-GAAP EPS $1,70 (GAAP $1,19); FY Non-GAAP EPS $6,00 (+9%).
- RPO: Remaining Performance Obligations (RPO) $138 Mrd (+41% YoY); Cloud RPO +56%, ~33% wird binnen 12 Monaten umgesetzt.
🎯 Was das Management sagt
- AI & Daten: Oracle positioniert die Oracle 23 AI als Vektor-/AI‑Datenplattform, die Unternehmensdaten LLMs verfügbar macht und Datenschutz gewahrt.
- Full‑Stack & Multi‑Cloud: OCI-Architektur soll niedrigere Kosten und Deploy‑Flexibilität bieten; Oracle bietet Datenbank‑Services auch in Azure, Google, AWS.
- Apps‑Strategie: Integrierte, agentenbasierte SaaS‑Suiten (ERP, EPM, HCM, SCM) sollen Migration und AI‑Adoption bei Kunden beschleunigen.
🔭 Ausblick & Guidance
- FY‑2026: Umsatz > $67 Mrd (+16% in konstanter Währung); Cloud‑Umsatz > +40% CC; OCI‑Wachstum > +70% erwartet.
- Q1‑Guidance: Gesamtumsatz +11–13% CC (12–14% USD); Cloud +26–30%; Non‑GAAP EPS $1,44–1,48 CC ($1,46–1,50 USD), Basissteuer 19% möglich.
- Investitionen: CapEx erwartet > $25 Mrd (Bereitstellung von Rechenkapazität); FY25 CapEx drückte Free Cash Flow kurzfristig negativ.
❓ Fragen der Analysten
- AI‑Monetarisierung: Nachfrage nach Klarheit zu Umsatzanteil und Margen der AI‑Workloads; Management betont Datenvorteil, liefert aber keine Detailaufteilung.
- Stargate / OpenAI: Analysten fragten, ob Stargate in RPO/OCI‑Prognosen steckt; Antwort: Beteiligungen/Beiträge unklar, Stargate noch nicht finalisiert.
- CapEx & Kapazität: Nachfrage übersteigt Angebot; Management signalisiert aktive Aufstockung der Kapazität, keine GPU‑Knappheit zum aktuellen Zeitpunkt.
⚡ Bottom Line
- Fazit: Starke Beschleunigung: großes, nicht kündbares RPO‑Backlog und deutlich angehobene FY‑Ziele. Kurzfristig höhere CapEx und negatives Free Cash Flow belasten Liquidität/Margen; mittelfristig hohes Upside durch Daten‑/AI‑Monopolstellung und integrierte SaaS‑Suite. Risiken bleiben in Auslieferung der Kapazität, Steuerereignissen und Unsicherheit über Beiträge spezifischer Partner‑initiativen.
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Umsatz
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Brutto Marge einfach erklärtVertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten
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Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten
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EBITDA
Das EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization) ist der Gewinn des Unternehmens vor Zinsen, Steuern und Abschreibungen. Berechnet man den prozentualen Anteil vom Umsatz, spricht man von der EBITDA-Marge.
Abschreibungen
Abschreibungen stellen Wertminderungen von Vermögensgegenständen des Unternehmens dar (z.B. durch Abnutzung von Maschinen).
EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis)
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der EBIT-Marge.
Nettogewinn
Der Nettogewinn stellt den Gewinn oder Verlust nach Abzug aller Kosten dar.
Nettogewinn einfach erklärtaktien.guide Premium
| Mai '26 |
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| Umsatz | 67.358 67.358 |
17 %
17 %
100 %
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| - Direkte Kosten | 23.022 23.022 |
36 %
36 %
34 %
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| Bruttoertrag | 44.336 44.336 |
10 %
10 %
66 %
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| - Vertriebs- und Verwaltungskosten | 9.950 9.950 |
3 %
3 %
15 %
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| - Forschungs- und Entwicklungskosten | 10.272 10.272 |
4 %
4 %
15 %
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| EBITDA | 24.066 24.066 |
19 %
19 %
36 %
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| - Abschreibungen | 1.671 1.671 |
28 %
28 %
2 %
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| EBIT (Operatives Ergebnis) EBIT | 22.395 22.395 |
25 %
25 %
33 %
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| Nettogewinn | 17.065 17.065 |
37 %
37 %
25 %
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